Summer transfer thread 2024/25

[easty]

That's just *****. He improved the team when he came on. Vente was a waste of space not Le Fondre.

Comparing him to a guy we’ve let leave on loan because he was poor isn’t really a flex.

Vente, 8 goals in 37 appearances (1 every 4.6 games)
ALF, 5 goals in 30 (1 every 6 games)

Vente, 4 assists in 37 games (1 every 9.25 games)
ALF, 2 assists in 30 games (1 every 15 games)

We won more points per game when Vente played than when ALF played too.

Vente away on loan to Dutch top flight.
ALF, free transfer to the Dog & Duck Sunday Morning league (is it English 8th tier he’s playing in?)

Aye…ALF is good. It’s Vente that’s crap…

[Cabbage-Patch]

What is the purpose of these games out of interest.
Qualifiers of some sort? Friendlies?

Not a great squad if I'm honest. Really miss Tierney and Hickey. Can't see us qualifying for a tournament for a while. Options up top are abysmal. Most countries seem to have a proven international striker. Our last must have been McCoist.

[Cabbage-Patch]

Were Vente and Youan not both around the 700k mark?

I believe De La Cruz was 750k so that stands as the record officially but suspect the deal to get Boyle back was probably more than that but was undisclosed. Vente was 700k as was Youan

[MWHIBBIES]

Comparing him to a guy we’ve let leave on loan because he was poor isn’t really a flex.

Vente, 8 goals in 37 appearances (1 every 4.6 games)
ALF, 5 goals in 30 (1 every 6 games)

Vente, 4 assists in 37 games (1 every 9.25 games)
ALF, 2 assists in 30 games (1 every 15 games)

We won more points per game when Vente played than when ALF played too.

Vente away on loan to Dutch top flight.
ALF, free transfer to the Dog & Duck Sunday Morning league (is it English 8th tier he’s playing in?)

Aye…ALF is good. It’s Vente that’s crap…

I think minutes per goal is quite a bit of a better judge here, rather than just appearances.

[easty]

I think minutes per goal is quite a bit of a better judge here, rather than just appearances.

Use whatever metric you want and you’ll never convince me that ALF had a good season.

He’s not where he is now by fluke.

[MWHIBBIES]

Use whatever metric you want and you’ll never convince me that ALF had a good season.

He’s not where he is now by fluke.

No, I don't think he did either really. But he was better than Vente.

I mean, yeah, he's nearly 40. That is why he is where he is. 10x the player Vente is over his career.

[Sioux]

Comparing him to a guy we’ve let leave on loan because he was poor isn’t really a flex.

Vente, 8 goals in 37 appearances (1 every 4.6 games)
ALF, 5 goals in 30 (1 every 6 games)

Vente, 4 assists in 37 games (1 every 9.25 games)
ALF, 2 assists in 30 games (1 every 15 games)

We won more points per game when Vente played than when ALF played too.

Vente away on loan to Dutch top flight.
ALF, free transfer to the Dog & Duck Sunday Morning league (is it English 8th tier he’s playing in?)

Aye…ALF is good. It’s Vente that’s crap…

Alf did not play 30 full games, or anything like that. So, your stats are irrelevant.

[bod]

What is the purpose of these games out of interest.
Qualifiers of some sort? Friendlies?

There are no international friendlies anymore.
Nations league, Euro's & world cup

[Smartie]

Comparing him to a guy we’ve let leave on loan because he was poor isn’t really a flex.

Vente, 8 goals in 37 appearances (1 every 4.6 games)
ALF, 5 goals in 30 (1 every 6 games)

Vente, 4 assists in 37 games (1 every 9.25 games)
ALF, 2 assists in 30 games (1 every 15 games)

We won more points per game when Vente played than when ALF played too.

Vente away on loan to Dutch top flight.
ALF, free transfer to the Dog & Duck Sunday Morning league (is it English 8th tier he’s playing in?)

Aye…ALF is good. It’s Vente that’s crap…

I agree that comparing the 2 is a bit bizarre, but in your example should we have similar expectations for a squad player expected to make fleeting appearances and a marquee signing?

[easty]

No, I don't think he did either really. But he was better than Vente.

I mean, yeah, he's nearly 40. That is why he is where he is. 10x the player Vente is over his career.

ALF in his prime v Vente in his wasn’t the argument.

I said ALF was crap, another poster said he wasn’t but Vente was. Vente did more in a Hibs strip than ALF did.

They were both poor last season.

[The Modfather]

Comparing him to a guy we’ve let leave on loan because he was poor isn’t really a flex.

Vente, 8 goals in 37 appearances (1 every 4.6 games)
ALF, 5 goals in 30 (1 every 6 games)

Vente, 4 assists in 37 games (1 every 9.25 games)
ALF, 2 assists in 30 games (1 every 15 games)

We won more points per game when Vente played than when ALF played too.

Vente away on loan to Dutch top flight.
ALF, free transfer to the Dog & Duck Sunday Morning league (is it English 8th tier he’s playing in?)

Aye…ALF is good. It’s Vente that’s crap…

I don’t really have any skin in the game in Vente v ALF. Nor a big fan of stats. However, to add in minutes played it’s:

Vente 8 goals in 2,248 minutes. A goal every 303 minutes. An assist every 607 minutes.

ALF 5 goals in 1,308 minutes. A goal every 261 minutes. An assist every 654 minutes.

I thought ALF was fine as a backup, though not fussed we didn’t keep him. I thought Vente was atrocious, especially for £700k, and can’t believe the easy ride he got, “Monty ruined him” etc. in Bowie’s brief cameos he’s show a lot more than Vente in terms of creating his own chances and able to contribute regardless of good or bad service.

[Cabbage-Patch]

So another day rolls by and no McCowan. Genuinely so bored of this saga now. He has has had plenty time to consider the contract and surely Hibs have set a deadline. We need to just move on and hopefully we have back up targets

[easty]

I don’t really have any skin in the game in Vente v ALF. Nor a big fan of stats. However, to add in minutes played it’s:

Vente 8 goals in 2,248 minutes. A goal every 303 minutes. An assist every 607 minutes.

ALF 5 goals in 1,308 minutes. A goal every 261 minutes. An assist every 654 minutes.

I thought ALF was fine as a backup, though not fussed we didn’t keep him. I thought Vente was atrocious, especially for £700k, and can’t believe the easy ride he got, “Monty ruined him” etc. in Bowie’s brief cameos he’s show a lot more than Vente in terms of creating his own chances and able to contribute regardless of good or bad service.

If you think Vente got an easy ride then you must have a different version of Hibs.net than I have.

[Nicho87]

This site may crash if we sign someone unknown 21 year old on loan from Bournemouth b team and McCowan ends up in the wrong shade of green.

In all seriousness you’d like to think we’ve been shown encouragement by his agent that he’d be willing to come if we have pursued it this long.

[04Sauzee]

Wolves have made a bid for St Mirren winger Ethan Sutherland.

It’s understood the clubs are locked in talks over a potential deal before Friday’s transfer deadline.

Sutherland, 18, spent the second half of last season on loan at Alloa Athletic.

#WWFC #SMFC

[Smartie]

This site may crash if we sign someone unknown 21 year old on loan from Bournemouth b team and McCowan ends up in the wrong shade of green.

In all seriousness you’d like to think we’ve been shown encouragement by his agent that he’d be willing to come if we have pursued it this long.

If I were still a betting man, that’s the very outcome my money would be on…

[Donegal Hibby]

Sky sports saying Man united are interested in signing Raheem Sterling , don’t think there’s been a player that’s played for Liverpool, Man City , Chelsea and Man United in their career .

[04Sauzee]

Seen a few mentions of Ryan Porteous to Celtic. Doubt there is anything else in it, just few Celtic fans chucking his name about.

[He's here!]

There are no international friendlies anymore.
Nations league, Euro's & world cup

I remember Scotland and England playing friendlies before the Euros? Think we lost to Northern Ireland and drew with someone else.

Either way it frustrates me when these international weekends get in the way of the domestic game. The teams who don't have players called up should just keep playing.

[Glory Lurker]

Seen a few mentions of Ryan Porteous to Celtic. Doubt there is anything else in it, just few Celtic fans chucking his name about.

Would be worth it just to see the football media contorting to avoid slating him because he was now a Celtc player.

[He's here!]

So another day rolls by and no McCowan. Genuinely so bored of this saga now. He has has had plenty time to consider the contract and surely Hibs have set a deadline. We need to just move on and hopefully we have back up targets

The 'waiting until the Hibs v Dundee game is out the way' line is now wearing a bit thin. I've always had a sense the player doesn't really fancy a move to Hibs but happy to be proved wrong.

[Real Emerald]

I tell you what, I’ll be glad when this transfer window slams shut. I’m sick and tired constantly refreshing this thread for what seems like months only to see we still have a midfield of Campbell and Newell with 3 days to go. Make it go away! 😂

[Callum_62]

When can we start booing?

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[BILLYHIBS]

I tell you what, I’ll be glad when this transfer window slams shut. I’m sick and tired constantly refreshing this thread for what seems like months only to see we still have a midfield of Campbell and Newell with 3 days to go. Make it go away! 😂

Would keeping JDH help ?

[Real Emerald]

Would keeping JDH help ?

It wouldn’t help me.

[Joe6-2]

I tell you what, I’ll be glad when this transfer window slams shut. I’m sick and tired constantly refreshing this thread for what seems like months only to see we still have a midfield of Campbell and Newell with 3 days to go. Make it go away! 😂

😬

[Paulie Walnuts]

If you think Vente got an easy ride then you must have a different version of Hibs.net than I have.

:agree:

There was posters recently declaring him our worst ever signing. A laughable suggestion, but the idea Vente got an easy ride is absolute nonsense.

[Libby Hibby]

Folk saying “move on” without any idea where we are at with it. Maybe we’ve already moved on. Maybe a fee has been agreed. Maybe the signing is done but we are waiting to announce it.

Nobody on here knows

Bang on.

[SHODAN]

And so the yearly circus that is "Hibs try to get a rival team's best player before the deal is hijacked by someone with more money" draws to its inevitable conclusion.

[Lago]

Seen a few mentions of Ryan Porteous to Celtic. Doubt there is anything else in it, just few Celtic fans chucking his name about.
Porteous seems to have been benched lately.

[greenlex]

The 'waiting until the Hibs v Dundee game is out the way' line is now wearing a bit thin. I've always had a sense the player doesn't really fancy a move to Hibs but happy to be proved wrong.
Why is it wearing a bit thin? When he’s unveiled it has come to pass.

[04Sauzee]

CONFIRMED: Blackburn Rovers have signed Liverpool left-back Owen Beck on a season-long loan deal.

#BRFC #LFC

[Callum_62]

And so the yearly circus that is "Hibs try to get a rival team's best player before the deal is hijacked by someone with more money" draws to its inevitable conclusion.Who was the last rival player this happened with?

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[MWHIBBIES]

And so the yearly circus that is "Hibs try to get a rival team's best player before the deal is hijacked by someone with more money" draws to its inevitable conclusion.

When did this happen?

[SHODAN]

Who was the last rival player this happened with?

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Jamie McCart.

[easty]

When did this happen?

With Naismith about 20 years ago?

[Cabbage-Patch]

The meltdown on this place is going to be unreal when we sign nobody then at 2320 on Friday Hibs tweet out a teaser picture of the pen and 10 minutes later announce an injured Bevan :cb

[007]

And so the yearly circus that is "Hibs try to get a rival team's best player before the deal is hijacked by someone with more money" draws to its inevitable conclusion.

Which rival teams' best players have we tried to get in the last few years?

[04Sauzee]

Jamie McCart.

Was that deal Hijacked or was it we didn't offer the money St J wanted at the time

[McGruber]

The meltdown on this place is going to be unreal when when we sign nobody then at 2320 on Friday Hibs tweet out a teaser picture of the pen and 10 minutes later announce an injured Bevan :cb

Why would a deal for Bevan need to go to the wire when we are dealing with Bournemouth? You'd have thought if he was coming here then he'd be here by now

[GreenPJ]

Why would a deal for Bevan need to go to the wire when we are dealing with Bournemouth? You'd have thought if he was coming here then he'd be here by now

I thought the chat was that Hibs wanted to ensure he was over his injury issue before committing to taking him?

[MWHIBBIES]

Jamie McCart.

Who hijacked that deal?

[Souter96Mac]

Michael Hector and Charles Dunne both available as free agents - two centre halves who I think would bring good depth at the back for us.

[basehibby]

Michael Hector and Charles Dunne both available as free agents - two centre halves who I think would bring good depth at the back for us.

Interesting recce work. I'm pretty sure we'll see another defender brought in along with another midfielder (McCowan?) and probably another striker before the ubiquitous Slamming shut of the window takes place.

[Ronniekirk]

Wolves have made a bid for St Mirren winger Ethan Sutherland.

It’s understood the clubs are locked in talks over a potential deal before Friday’s transfer deadline.

Sutherland, 18, spent the second half of last season on loan at Alloa Athletic.

#WWFC #SMFC
Hasn’t yep made a first team appearance for st Mirren according to my st Mirren friends in Paisley

[Paulie Walnuts]

Michael Hector and Charles Dunne both available as free agents - two centre halves who I think would bring good depth at the back for us.

Hector would walk into our team imo. Wouldn’t go near Dunne though.

[JimBHibees]

I think if we had given up on him we would let it be known through friendly media thus making Dundee sweat if nobody else wants him at the price.

No doubt we would

[He's here!]

Why is it wearing a bit thin? When he’s unveiled it has come to pass.

You think it's a 'when' rather than an 'if'?

[Broken Gnome]

You think it's a 'when' rather than an 'if'?There has been a good few posts earlier in the thread which have very confidently said he wants to come.

Which wouldn't seem to be entirely true based on the current situation...

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[greenlex]

You think it's a 'when' rather than an 'if'?
Aye.

[TrinityHFC]

There has been a good few posts earlier in the thread which have very confidently said he wants to come.

Which wouldn't seem to be entirely true based on the current situation...

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What is the current situation?

[Just_Jimmy]

Not a great squad if I'm honest. Really miss Tierney and Hickey. Can't see us qualifying for a tournament for a while. Options up top are abysmal. Most countries seem to have a proven international striker. Our last must have been McCoist.Mcfadden did well for us but genuinely world class? Kenny...

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[Pytheas]

Hector would walk into our team imo. Wouldn’t go near Dunne though.

Hector will get better offers than us i reckon, but only just. Definitely someone we should be contacting.

[MWHIBBIES]

Not a great squad if I'm honest. Really miss Tierney and Hickey. Can't see us qualifying for a tournament for a while. Options up top are abysmal. Most countries seem to have a proven international striker. Our last must have been McCoist.

Steven Fletcher was scoring double figures in the premier league for 4 years. He got 3 caps during that period because of Levein.

[Broken Gnome]

What is the current situation?If he wanted to be at Hibs I think we'd know about it one way or another. If the suggestion is that Celtic is a possibility and his favoured move, then any likelihood or certainty he'd end up a Hibs player is a fair distance away.

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[TrinityHFC]

I know most threads go on a tangent but maybe start one on the Scotland squad or use the Ryan Gauld one?!

[Alfred E Newman]

When can we start booing?

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Have we ever stopped?

[TrinityHFC]

If he wanted to be at Hibs I think we'd know about it one way or another. If the suggestion is that Celtic is a possibility and his favoured move, then any likelihood or certainty he'd end up a Hibs player is a fair distance away.

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That doesn’t tell me what the current situation is. We have just played Dundee. Nothing was likely to be done before that. We’ve no idea the status of our offers, and no idea if Celtic are interested.

[Broken Gnome]

That doesn’t tell me what the current situation is. We have just played Dundee. Nothing was likely to be done before that. We’ve no idea the status of our offers, and no idea if Celtic are interested.I know, it's guesswork. There was certainly people suggesting we were nearing done deal though, when that doesn't seem to have been the case.

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[EVENTUALLY]

Michael Hector and Charles Dunne both available as free agents - two centre halves who I think would bring good depth at the back for us.


Hector would walk into our team imo. Wouldn’t go near Dunne though.


Hector will get better offers than us i reckon, but only just. Definitely someone we should be contacting.

Watched him at Charlton last year verus Burton when he actually had an assist for his central defensive partner BUT he was so slow and too casual. Him and Bursik would totally kill the clock with their slow approach. Its a huge NO from me.

[Unseen work]

https://x.com/mercadofutbolec/status/1828538937260032185?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

Surely nonsense

35 games in Swiss league last season and a position we’ve a few options

[Chorley Hibee]

I tell you what, I’ll be glad when this transfer window slams shut. I’m sick and tired constantly refreshing this thread for what seems like months only to see we still have a midfield of Campbell and Newell with 3 days to go. Make it go away! 😂

Wait till Jair makes his comeback...😬

[Coco Bryce]

I tell you what, I’ll be glad when this transfer window slams shut. I’m sick and tired constantly refreshing this thread for what seems like months only to see we still have a midfield of Campbell and Newell with 3 days to go. Make it go away! 😂

It's mental eh. Club is a shambles 😔

[Col2]

When we see Jair and McKirdy warm up as subs you know we have failed😡

[04Sauzee]

https://i.ibb.co/W0Y4chJ/Screenshot-20240827-223120.png (https://ibb.co/NrHdLvB)

[Heisenberg]

Didn’t see us wanting a right back, if it’s true maybe Miller is away

[AlbertK86]

Didn’t see us wanting a right back, if it’s true maybe Miller is away

Positionally really poor and distribution really poor.

Happy for him to be replaced


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[TrinityHFC]

It's mental eh. Club is a shambles 😔

Not really true though eh?

Newell played this weekend. Fair enough. Still our best midfielder. We had a midfielder make his debut and we had a really promising young player as the third midfielder.

[TrinityHFC]

Positionally really poor and distribution really poor.

Happy for him to be replaced


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Spends most of his time on the ground. A new right back would be welcome.

[Cat Stanton]

Didn’t see us wanting a right back, if it’s true maybe Miller is away

is this Espinoza a right back then?

[Unseen work]

Positionally really poor and distribution really poor.

Happy for him to be replaced


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Think he’s one we’d probably get a decent enough fee for too, think some English teams would love his physicality

I like him but his diving and complete inability to play the ball down the line drives me mental

Looking a bit more at Espinoza it’s not as out of our reach as I thought. Linked with inter however it appears him/his agent offered his services. Also linked with Standard Liege and Beerschot but nothing coming from that.

Out of contract and valued at 800k on transfermkt. Started 16 games last season and made 19 sub appearances in the league

[Cabbage-Patch]

Didn’t see us wanting a right back, if it’s true maybe Miller is away

Other than a physical presence I fail to see what Miller really offers us. Would not be bothered in the slightest if he left

[Nicho87]

As well as bevan?

Still hope we will see a bit movement both directions

Players that realistically could still leave have to be

Kennah
Jair
Mckirdy
JDH
levitt
Amos
Rocky
Boruc

Potential ins has to be

Bevan
McCowan

New rumour espinoza

[eastmainsmsh]

Positionally really poor and distribution really poor.

Happy for him to be replaced


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These are two things that I thought Gray would help Miller with he has good potential but as you say is spot on

[we are hibs]

Id rather move Cadden on.

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[Heisenberg]

Id rather move Cadden on.

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Im not sure he sees Cadden as a proper right back. Think he’s either played right mid or wingback so far. If we can upgrade on Miller I’m all for it just didn’t see it coming with a few other areas more of a priority, do hope it’s true though.

[GreenCastle]

Spends most of his time on the ground. A new right back would be welcome.

Spends most of the time rolling up his shorts!

I do wish our full backs would provide more assists and quality.

Also think they both give opposition players far too much time of the ball too.

[GreenCastle]

Im not sure he sees Cadden as a proper right back. Think he’s either played right mid or wingback so far. If we can upgrade on Miller I’m all for it just didn’t see it coming with a few other areas more of a priority, do hope it’s true though.

Chris Cadden is also definitely not a right back - really don’t like him playing in that position as we always seem to concede when he does (not always his fault) but I genuinely think he’s better higher up the pitch.

[K-Zazu]

Positionally really poor and distribution really poor.

Happy for him to be replaced


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Would be delighted.

[Unseen work]

Just watched some of Espinoza’s ‘highlights’

Just give Megwa a chance instead 🤣

[Cabbage-Patch]

is this Espinoza a right back then?

Maybe a loan move lined up for Megwa?

[04Sauzee]

Just watched some of Espinoza’s ‘highlights’

Just give Megwa a chance instead 🤣

2nd touch was a tackle

I mean it was highlights of one game and maybe he just had bad game 😂

[Nicho87]

2nd touch was a tackle

I mean it was highlights of one game and maybe he just had bad game 😂

We’re quite a relaxed bunch up here

Joe Newell has had one good game in whole hibs career















Just kidding


😉

[Unseen work]

2nd touch was a tackle

I mean it was highlights of one game and maybe he just had bad game 😂

Aye all the ones I watched were t great viewing to say the least 🤣

The highlights of Tavares, Melkersen etc all made us think we had the real deal, so maybe a poor highlights reel means they’re actually brilliant in an actual game ?🤣

[04Sauzee]

Aye all the ones I watched were t great viewing to say the least 🤣

The highlights of Tavares, Melkersen etc all made us think we had the real deal, so maybe a poor highlights reel means they’re actually brilliant in an actual game ?🤣

TBF it was one highlight real and he played loads of games last season at a very good level. Not convinced we're even in for him.

[Unseen work]

TBF it was one highlight real and he played loads of games last season at a very good level. Not convinced we're even in for him.

Yeah I’m saying it in jest, if he’s played that amount of games for a team that finished second in the Swiss league he must have something about him

[04Sauzee]

Scott Wright to Birmingham by the looks of things. They are spending some cash to get out of league one.

[Winston Ingram]

Chris Cadden is also definitely not a right back - really don’t like him playing in that position as we always seem to concede when he does (not always his fault) but I genuinely think he’s better higher up the pitch.

I’d agree with this. He’s not a good enough defender to play right back and not technically good enough to play right wing. I’m really surprised he’s still here and even more surprised we signed his brother.

[Springbank]

If we are looking to pay money for a right back there's only 1 man for it imo

Danny McNamara of Millwall. Good footballer.

He knows the league, was a stand out during a loan spell at St Johnstone & has fallen out of favour with Neil Harris

[McGruber]

If we are looking to pay money for a right back there's only 1 man for it imo

Danny McNamara of Millwall. Good footballer.

He knows the league, was a stand out during a loan spell at St Johnstone & has fallen out of favour with Neil Harris

Great shout. Can't see us actually going for another right back though.

[Hibiza]

Will we sign anyone ?

[Hibiza]

New before window closes

[Northernhibee]

If we are looking to pay money for a right back there's only 1 man for it imo

Danny McNamara of Millwall. Good footballer.

He knows the league, was a stand out during a loan spell at St Johnstone & has fallen out of favour with Neil Harris

He’d defo be Embraced here at the club.

[supermcginn]

Positionally really poor and distribution really poor.

Happy for him to be replaced


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Absolutely agree, Miller is a huddie.

[zero-seven]

He’d defo be Embraced here at the club.

someone needs to tell him to Come back to what you know

[blackpoolhibs]

Think he’s one we’d probably get a decent enough fee for too, think some English teams would love his physicality

I like him but his diving and complete inability to play the ball down the line drives me mental

Looking a bit more at Espinoza it’s not as out of our reach as I thought. Linked with inter however it appears him/his agent offered his services. Also linked with Standard Liege and Beerschot but nothing coming from that.

Out of contract and valued at 800k on transfermkt. Started 16 games last season and made 19 sub appearances in the league

He falls over with the slightest touch, my granny is stronger than him and she's been dead for years.

They would laugh at his antics in England.

[GloryGlory]

Will we sign anyone ?

If we haven't already moved on, you'd think today would be the last day that Hibs wait for an answer from Dundee and McCowan.

[flash]

He falls over with the slightest touch, my granny is stronger than him and she's been dead for years.

They would laugh at his antics in England.

SDG has told him in no uncertain terms to cut all that stuff out. If he isn't listening maybe the manager has had enough?

[SON OF PADDY]

Other than a physical presence I fail to see what Miller really offers us. Would not be bothered in the slightest if he left


Miller is a waste of a shirt, he spends more time on his arse than a child learning to walk!

[CapitalGreen]

Miller is a waste of a shirt, he spends more time on his arse than a child learning to walk!

That’ll typically happen if you are the most fouled player in the league.

[Donegal Hibby]

Miller is probably the most fouled player in the Hibs team and as to his positioning being poor I think we are losing just as many goals/ crosses from the left side as we are the right were the positioning is equally as poor and maybe worse at times . We also have less cover there than the right side too .

[TrinityHFC]

That’ll typically happen if you are the most fouled player in the league.

He’s the most fouled player because he is always looking to throw himself to the ground. He also doesn’t get a lot of the fouls he wants and puts us in trouble.

[Pytheas]

He’s the most fouled player because he is always looking to throw himself to the ground. He also doesn’t get a lot of the fouls he wants and puts us in trouble.

I don't mind him looking for fouls, if it was Shinnie or Shaun Rooney doing it we would be grudgingly praising them as canny players. Miller wins us fouls that get us up the pitch and out of trouble.

He's also very good going forward.

His problem is his defensive positioning and timing in the tackle are pretty bad, if those can't be coached into him then he can't continue as first choice RB, has been partly at fault for a few goals already. Gray will know better than anyone whether he can add that to his game as it was his main attributes in the same position.

[McGruber]

If Obita logs on this morning and sees the right back getting stick he'll be shuffling about uncomfortable in his chair eating his cornflakes.

[Brightside]

If we are getting rid of Miller SDG better find some new tactics quickly.

[.Sean.]

Didn’t see us wanting a right back, if it’s true maybe Miller is away
Thank ****. Spends more time pulling his shorts up and rolling around like he’s been shot than being a decent player

I don’t dislike Miller, he’s just bang average like the majority of his team mates and if an upgrade is available it’s a no brainer

[CallumLaidlaw]

Good to see this thread has moved on from hammering Joe Newell.

To hammering Lewis Miller. [emoji30][emoji30]


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[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Good to see this thread has moved on from hammering Joe Newell.

To hammering Lewis Miller. [emoji30][emoji30]


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Joe Newell wanders about fixing his hair like a Poundland Pirlo.
Lewis Miller needs to get shorts that fit him.


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[Ozyhibby]

Surely if Miller is to be replaced it’s Megwa? Otherwise why give him the new contract?


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[Scottie]

So is there any transfer rumours this morning or are we just slagging every man that puts the shirt on for us :cb

[04Sauzee]

Something like 62.5hrs left of the transfer window 😬

[Paulie Walnuts]

Surely if Miller is to be replaced it’s Megwa? Otherwise why give him the new contract?


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Megwa would be a significant downgrade on Miller imo.

If miller goes he needs replaced or we’ll be a worse team for it.

[JohnM1875]

Something like 62.5hrs left of the transfer window 😬

The lack of outgoings is really surprising as well. I get the players we’re trying to shift are pretty rank. But there’s always teams looking for players out there.

They’ll be getting paid anyway, you think they’d rather be playing? Especially the ones out of contract next summer. Could be playing to get your career back on track.

[Centre Hawf]

The lack of outgoings is really surprising as well. I get the players we’re trying to shift are pretty rank. But there’s always teams looking for players out there.

They’ll be getting paid anyway, you think they’d rather be playing? Especially the ones out of contract next summer. Could be playing to get your career back on track.

Most of these players will be holding out to see how much extra money they can get out of us for leaving. If they're due for arguments sake £200k worth of wages still for this season they'll be trying to milk it so that their new contract at wherever they're going and a pay off from Hibs combined gets them £250k/300k for the season instead.

I don't hugely blame them either.

[JohnM1875]

Most of these players will be holding out to see how much extra money they can get out of us for leaving. If they're due for arguments sake £200k worth of wages still for this season they'll be trying to milk it so that their new contract at wherever they're going and a pay off from Hibs combined gets them £250k/300k for the season instead.

I don't hugely blame them either.

Why would we pay them off though? Just send them out on loan (paying their wage obviously) then they’ll be out of contact in the summer. Saves us paying a lump sum out now?

Maybe I’ve got it wrong though and that’s not how it works.

[degenerated]

Good to see this thread has moved on from hammering Joe Newell.

To hammering Lewis Miller. [emoji30][emoji30]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSupporting a football club has changed. I remember when it was about getting behind the team through thick and thin.
Now it appears that it's more about generally disliking the whole experience and slagging off the players.

[Golden Bear]

Surely if Miller is to be replaced it’s Megwa? Otherwise why give him the new contract?


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Exactly.

Megwa has served his apprenticeship, his time has come.

[B.H.F.C]

Surely start to see something happening today, whether it’s incoming or outgoing.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Surely start to see something happening today, whether it’s incoming or outgoing.

It's typical Hibs 🙄

[flash]

It's typical Hibs 🙄

It's typical everybody at this time of the year.

[Centre Hawf]

Why would we pay them off though? Just send them out on loan (paying their wage obviously) then they’ll be out of contact in the summer. Saves us paying a lump sum out now?

Maybe I’ve got it wrong though and that’s not how it works.

We don't have to pay a lump sum, we can still pay them monthly just at a reduced rate if they leave permanently. If Kenneh is on 4k a week we could agree to still pay him 1k or 2k a week until next summer to save us the rest for our budget this season. The standoff at the moment will be how much can Hibs NOT pay anymore vs what will other people pay.

The same would apply to a loan but most of these guys will be looking to secure another 2/3 year deal now than head into next season as free agents.

[Callum_62]

If we are getting rid of Miller SDG better find some new tactics quickly.I heard we are in advanced talks with our new right back

No change of tactics needed - hooooof!

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[keep the faith]

Id rather move Cadden on.

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I prefer miller over cadden too.

[Houston7]

So is there any transfer rumours this morning or are we just slagging every man that puts the shirt on for us :cb

If Messi was at Hibs, a few on Hibs.net would have found his flaws! 🙉

[hibees 7062]

Yep , too wee 😜

[Forza Fred]

Is it ok to say I like Miller?

Or any other player come to that.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Supporting a football club has changed. I remember when it was about getting behind the team through thick and thin.
Now it appears that it's more about generally disliking the whole experience and slagging off the players.

Misery loves company!

[andrew70]

Is it ok to say I like Miller?

Or any other player come to that.

I like Miller. Good player who will continue to improve.

[Donegal Hibby]

Think the rumour that we are after a RB is on par with the rumours we were after the player Robertson who opted for Dundee over us , Nisbet choosing Aberdeen over us and Gray failing to get the guy from hertz as his assistant! . Time will tell of course.

[badabing67]

Think the rumour that we are after a RB is on par with the rumours we were after the player Robertson who chose Dundee over us , Nisbet choosing Aberdeen over us and Gray failing to get the guy from hertz as his assistant! . Time will tell of course.


Did you mean Simon Murray

[Mcbizz1998]

What is it with this forum these days? Any criticism isn’t allowed of any players?

We have 1 point from our first 3 league games and are out the cup. We finished bottom 6 last season. It’s not unreasonable that people don’t rate some of the players. Are we saying it’s a case of - if you don’t have anything nice to say, say nothing at all?

In which case, what’s the point of having a forum to discuss and provide opinion?

My 2 cents on Miller - he’s ok but if we can get better then we should be going for it. Not a priority signing though.

[Albert Kidd 86’]

Supporting a football club has changed. I remember when it was about getting behind the team through thick and thin.
Now it appears that it's more about generally disliking the whole experience and slagging off the players.

:top marks

there is enough material in this thread alone for an entire conference about online psychology!:rolleyes:

[Donegal Hibby]

Did you mean Simon Murray

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/clark-robertson-seals-dundee-transfer-29398468

https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/ce55l1154gzo

[Ozyhibby]

Megwa would be a significant downgrade on Miller imo.

If miller goes he needs replaced or we’ll be a worse team for it.

That’s possibly correct which begs the question, why give him a new 4 year deal?


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[Scottie]

What is it with this forum these days? Any criticism isn’t allowed of any players?

We have 1 point from our first 3 league games and are out the cup. We finished bottom 6 last season. It’s not unreasonable that people don’t rate some of the players. Are we saying it’s a case of - if you don’t have anything nice to say, say nothing at all?

In which case, what’s the point of having a forum to discuss and provide opinion?

My 2 cents on Miller - he’s ok but if we can get better then we should be going for it. Not a priority signing though.
There’s the rest of the forum to vent frustrations about current & ex players but surely ta **** can we no leave this thread for what its meant to be a Transfer thread about in & outs without the need for player assassination ? :confused:

[TrinityHFC]

That’s possibly correct which begs the question, why give him a new 4 year deal?


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Because he might be more ready in say another year’s time?

[greenlex]

Megwa would be a significant downgrade on Miller imo.

If miller goes he needs replaced or we’ll be a worse team for it.
He wouldn’t really

[TrinityHFC]

There’s the rest of the forum to vent frustrations about current & ex players but surely ta **** can we no leave this thread for what its meant to be a Transfer thread about in & outs ? :confused:

It is directly about whether we need a rumoured new right back.

[Lago]

Exactly.

Megwa has served his apprenticeship, his time has come.
He'd struggle at the top level.

[Mcbizz1998]

It is directly about whether we need a rumoured new right back.

Exactly!

[Cooshed Kid]

7756057 (tel:7756057)[/URL]]Supporting a football club has changed. I remember when it was about getting behind the team through thick and thin.
Now it appears that it's more about generally disliking the whole experience and slagging off the players.

The Tornadoes had many disappointing or tragic games amongst the fantastic ones but I don't remember any vitriol being heaped on players afterwards. Maybe the reason was we didn't have a site like this in which some fans could have told Sir Pat, Alan Gordon, Shades and the rest how they didn't deserve to wear the shirt and maybe even call them wage thieves, a completely unacceptable slander of any player. Different times, different players and different attitudes.

[JohnM1875]

We don't have to pay a lump sum, we can still pay them monthly just at a reduced rate if they leave permanently. If Kenneh is on 4k a week we could agree to still pay him 1k or 2k a week until next summer to save us the rest for our budget this season. The standoff at the moment will be how much can Hibs NOT pay anymore vs what will other people pay.

The same would apply to a loan but most of these guys will be looking to secure another 2/3 year deal now than head into next season as free agents.

Right you are, get you now 👍

[Paulie Walnuts]

That’s possibly correct which begs the question, why give him a new 4 year deal?


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A question I asked when it was announced :agree:

[Paulie Walnuts]

He wouldn’t really

He would imo.

[Greenworld]

A question I asked when it was announced :agree:Totally crazy deal

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[Unseen work]

Did someone not previously say we were looking at Max Johnston on loan too.

Maybe something in it re looking at new right backs

If that’s the case surprised we never got Ryan Strain when he was free (lucky as he’s injured again) or would go for Danny McNamara

[JohnM1875]

Kheredine Idessane on twitter suggesting McCowan might be a good move for Celtic. Could be way off with this, but don’t think I’ve seen many journalists try and flog a player to a team.

Just seems a bit bizarre.

[Donegal Hibby]

Here’s another cracking rumour 2:22 in ……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjuvaYtWIlo

[GloryGlory]

Kheredine Idessane on twitter suggesting McCowan might be a good move for Celtic. Could be way off with this, but don’t think I’ve seen many journalists try and flog a player to a team.

Just seems a bit bizarre.

Kheredine is a self-confessed Celtic fan so maybe just wishful thinking on his part.

[JohnM1875]

Kheredine is a self-confessed Celtic fan so maybe just wishful thinking on his part.

Aw I’m not suggesting he knows anything, just haven’t really seen it happen before. Aye, report on stuff that’s happening or you’ve heard might happen. But to just chuck a player you think might be a good shout for a team? Weird.

[J-C]

Surely if Miller is to be replaced it’s Megwa? Otherwise why give him the new contract?


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Unless they see Megwa as a CH.

[Aldo]

Aw I’m not suggesting he knows anything, just haven’t really seen it happen before. Aye, report on stuff that’s happening or you’ve heard might happen. But to just chuck a player you think might be a good shout for a team? Weird.

I maybe paranoid but is this happening because we are bidding for him?

[Nicho87]

Here’s another cracking rumour 2:22 in ……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjuvaYtWIlo

Lost all credibility when they showed a wrong picture of Paul McGinn rather than Boyle

Load of rubbish that

[aberhibsfc]

Here’s another cracking rumour 2:22 in ……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjuvaYtWIlo

Lol, Kenny Miller masking his slur with a generic AI voice over. Enjoyed the errant Paul McGinn picture insert within the Boyle slideshow segment.

[badabing67]

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/clark-robertson-seals-dundee-transfer-29398468

https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/ce55l1154gzo


Cheers was unaware of that

[RIP]

Unless they see Megwa as a CH.

The club dont see Megwa as a right back. Nor as a centre half, he's too short.

They are coaching him into the Gogic and Bartley role. Defensive midfielder who sits in front of the back line breaking up play.

That's seemingly where he's playing for the development squad and very much looking the part I'm told.

[Smartie]

He'd struggle at the top level.

He had a good season at the second top level, not sure what more he could have done there.

I sort of get what you mean though... and I think there probably is another level between doing well for Airdrie and doing well for Hibs. We should be trying to find that place so he can spend a season getting ready to be at "do well for Hibs" level.

Even if he isn't ready though... Miller is very raw and doesn't always look ready, and Chris Cadden simply cannot defend. They're far more expensive versions of the imperfect player. I'd be much more patients with Megwa playing and learning than I tend to be with senior pros playing the way Miller and Cadden often do, and I'm even a bit of a defender of Cadden on here.

[JohnM1875]

The club dont see Megwa as a right back. Nor as a centre half, he's too short.

They are coaching him into the Gogic and Bartley role. Defensive midfielder who sits in front of the back line breaking up play.

That's seemingly where he's playing for the development squad and very much looking the part I'm told.

That’s definitely interesting.

Not seen enough of him to have an opinion on whether I think he’d be good there or not. I do think the defensive side of his game was his strength in the few games I’ve seen.

[J-C]

The club dont see Megwa as a right back. Nor as a centre half, he's too short.

They are coaching him into the Gogic and Bartley role. Defensive midfielder who sits in front of the back line breaking up play.

That's seemingly where he's playing for the development squad and very much looking the part I'm told.

So maybe someone better than Miller and move Cadden to RM.

[J-C]

He had a good season at the second top level, not sure what more he could have done there.

I sort of get what you mean though... and I think there probably is another level between doing well for Airdrie and doing well for Hibs. We should be trying to find that place so he can spend a season getting ready to be at "do well for Hibs" level.

Even if he isn't ready though... Miller is very raw and doesn't always look ready, and Chris Cadden simply cannot defend. They're far more expensive versions of the imperfect player. I'd be much more patients with Megwa playing and learning than I tend to be with senior pros playing the way Miller and Cadden often do, and I'm even a bit of a defender of Cadden on here.

Cadden was always a RM but was moved to RB when ge moved to the States.

[Paulie Walnuts]

So maybe someone better than Miller and move Cadden to RM.

Cadden as a right mid would be pish imo. He’s not good enough going forward to play any further forward than right back or right wing back.

[04Sauzee]

The club dont see Megwa as a right back. Nor as a centre half, he's too short.

They are coaching him into the Gogic and Bartley role. Defensive midfielder who sits in front of the back line breaking up play.

That's seemingly where he's playing for the development squad and very much looking the part I'm told.
Do we still have a development squad? When and who's he been playing against? Genuine question btw not trying to sound a twat 😀

[EGL2000]

I like Miller. Good player who will continue to improve.


I also like him. Half the time he's the only one who can get us up the park and he's a great target when wanting to go long.

[NGoloGrantie]

The club dont see Megwa as a right back. Nor as a centre half, he's too short.

They are coaching him into the Gogic and Bartley role. Defensive midfielder who sits in front of the back line breaking up play.

That's seemingly where he's playing for the development squad and very much looking the part I'm told.

I always thought he was being coached into left back as that’s where he’s played in the pre season games. SDG sees C.Cadden as a right mid/winger and megwa back up left back I thought so made sense getting another right back. Either way Megwa being left back or CDM only leaves miller at right back.


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[JohnM1875]

Dundee teasing a signing, will be Braybrooke you’d imagine. Hopefully hear more about McCowan today then

[Donegal Hibby]

Cadden as a right mid would be pish imo. He’s not good enough going forward to play any further forward than right back or right wing back.

Never thought he was a right back , played right mid for Motherwell, going forward his were his strengths are much like Obita but defensively both are poor …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ginrgISp_z4

[Paulie Walnuts]

Never thought he was a right back , played right mid for Motherwell, going forward his were his strengths are much like Obita but defensively both are poor …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ginrgISp_z4

I think going forward is his strength from right back. It’s not nearly enough of a strength to make him a right midfielder or winger though imo.

A lot of his games for Motherwell were also on the right of a 3-5-2, so more RWB rather than RM/RW.

I think the fact he’s 27 and hasn’t played as a RM/RW for at least 5 years suggests it’s not his position.

[JohnM1875]

A few interesting players currently free agents

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWATK-FWIAIhMkq?format=jpg&name=small

[Smartie]

A few interesting players currently free agents

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWATK-FWIAIhMkq?format=jpg&name=small

Harry Kite could go straight into the rhyming slang XI.

[Unseen work]

Dundee announce Braybrooke

Hopefully clears the way for Mccowan

[Centre Hawf]

Always felt Cadden was almost very nichely a player who could only play as a wing back in a back three. He can go forward, just not as well as a proper winger, and he can defend, just not as much as an out and out right back. He just exists in this grey zone.

For that reason I do actually like him as a squad player.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Always felt Cadden was almost very nichely a player who could only play as a wing back in a back three. He can go forward, just not as well as a proper winger, and he can defend, just not as much as an out and out right back. He just exists in this grey zone.

For that reason I do actually like him as a squad player.

Agree with your first point. Hes one of these awkward players who imo just doesn’t fit into any position well. For that reason though im not a fan of him as a squad player :greengrin

[Heisenberg]

I thought Cadden was quite useful playing right midfield in front of Miller for one of the spells where we did ok under LJ. Can’t even remember how many games it was right enough, don’t think it was many.

[Nicho87]

Cmon hibs get McGowan in FFS

[hibees 7062]

:hyper

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Now that’s a rumour

[ekhibee]

Never thought he was a right back , played right mid for Motherwell, going forward his were his strengths are much like Obita but defensively both are poor …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ginrgISp_z4
Yep, he was definitely right mid at Motherwel, and for me he was alright, nothing more nothing less. Scored a few goals there but as you say correctly not particularly good defensively. A bit like Stephen Whittaker imo but not quite as good, although he does score more goals than Whittaker ever did for Hibs.

[JohnM1875]

Dundee announce Braybrooke

Hopefully clears the way for Mccowan

Yup, nice early announcement as well. Lovely stuff.

[pepe]

The club dont see Megwa as a right back. Nor as a centre half, he's too short.

They are coaching him into the Gogic and Bartley role. Defensive midfielder who sits in front of the back line breaking up play.

That's seemingly where he's playing for the development squad and very much looking the part I'm told.
I always thought he’d be perfect for that role, hope he comes good

[flash]

If his name was Danilo Numara we’d be all
Over him

You have the facility to delete this........

[Donegal Hibby]

I think going forward is his strength from right back. It’s not nearly enough of a strength to make him a right midfielder or winger though imo.

A lot of his games for Motherwell were also on the right of a 3-5-2, so more RWB rather than RM/RW.

I think the fact he’s 27 and hasn’t played as a RM/RW for at least 5 years suggests it’s not his position.

I know folk on here are saying our midfield needs improving and their right though last season and the start of this one the weakness in the team that other teams are exploiting are down the sides , both fullbacks particularly Cadden and Obita can’t defend and generally need someone to cover for them because neither are a RB or LB imo …

And until we get a couple of proper fullbacks that can defend we will continue to see teams put crosses easily into our box, chances created from out wide which will result in us losing goals like we seen at paisley . Doesn’t matter who our CHs are until we sort that area out .

Personally I’ve always seen Cadden as a RM who could play as a RW though as a RB / RWB he feels me with fear as was evident in our 6-0 defeat at parkhead when we were badly exposed regularly on the right side .

[Smartie]

Always felt Cadden was almost very nichely a player who could only play as a wing back in a back three. He can go forward, just not as well as a proper winger, and he can defend, just not as much as an out and out right back. He just exists in this grey zone.

For that reason I do actually like him as a squad player.

I totally agree with this take.

FWIW I don’t think Obita on the other side is all that dissimilar. 3 at the back, those 2 as wingbacks allows us to get 2 strikers into the team as well.

Problems I have with that is that we don’t have a naturally left sided centre back for the left of the three, which I think you need when playing 3 at the back, but mainly - it leaves Boyle and Youan high and dry, who most of us would consider to be amongst our best players last season and this (although Youan is surely offski).

[Paulie Walnuts]

I know folk on here are saying our midfield needs improving and their right though last season and the start of this one the weakness in the team that other teams are exploiting are down the sides , both fullbacks particularly Cadden and Obita can’t defend and generally need someone to cover for them because neither are a RB or LB imo …

And until we get a couple of proper fullbacks that can defend we will continue to see teams put crosses easily into our box, chances created from out wide which will result in us losing goals like we seen at paisley . Doesn’t matter who our CHs are until we sort that area out .

Personally I’ve always seen Cadden as a RM who could play as a RW though as a RB / RWB he feels me with fear as was evident in our 6-0 defeat at parkhead when we were badly exposed regularly on the right side .

Cadden generally fills me with fear wherever he plays.

There’s the fear of him being crap and leaving us exposed at right back and the fear of him offering absolutely nothing offensively if he’s played further forward.

I just don’t think he’s very good if I’m honest.

[yerauldda]

Cadden generally fills me with fear wherever he plays.

There’s the fear of him being crap and leaving us exposed at right back and the fear of him offering absolutely nothing offensively if he’s played further forward.

I just don’t think he’s very good if I’m honest.

I think he's a good footballer but never an out and out right back.
Always has a shocker v the Old Firm because he can't defend one on one. Though he's a huge asset against lesser teams at home in the league when we have more of the ball. Like someone else said, a pretty niche role.

[Smartie]

I thought Cadden was quite useful playing right midfield in front of Miller for one of the spells where we did ok under LJ. Can’t even remember how many games it was right enough, don’t think it was many.

I think it was CJ Egan-Riley he did well in front of.

He definitely had a more than acceptable run of form in that position at that time.

[CapitalGreen]

The club dont see Megwa as a right back. Nor as a centre half, he's too short.

They are coaching him into the Gogic and Bartley role. Defensive midfielder who sits in front of the back line breaking up play.

That's seemingly where he's playing for the development squad and very much looking the part I'm told.

What development squad?

[Cabbage-Patch]

A few interesting players currently free agents

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWATK-FWIAIhMkq?format=jpg&name=small

Ravel Morrison walks straight into our midfield. Played at a decent level his whole career. Only 31 and still a full international I believe. Wages would be the issue though

[JohnM1875]

Dundee announce Braybrooke

Hopefully clears the way for Mccowan

McCowan at Dundee training today. Don’t think it’s happening.

[Since452]

McCowan at Dundee training today. Don’t think it’s happening.

But where's his agent? 😉

[JohnM1875]

But where's his agent? 😉

On the blower to Celtic I’d imagine begging for a bid.

[SteveHFC]

We’re going to end up with young players on loan from England aren’t we.

[bingo70]

McCowan at Dundee training today. Don’t think it’s happening.

Not necessarily but it does mean he hasn’t signed yet, despite many posters claiming he had.

[bingo70]

We’re going to end up with young players on loan from England aren’t we.

As long a they’re good that’s ok with me.

[Cabbage-Patch]

McCowan at Dundee training today. Don’t think it’s happening.

Source not entirely in the know but is connected to someone who works at the club....I've been told he's rejected our contract offer. He remains committed to Dundee and wants to remain there as captain. Would be open to a move to Celtic but they have not submitted a bid at this time.

[JohnM1875]

Not necessarily but it does mean he hasn’t signed yet, despite many posters claiming he had.

Think I’m beyond caring about the McCowan transfer now. Just hope we’re further down the line with someone else.

Wonder if there was anything in the Crowley chat or if it was made up bollocks.

[JohnM1875]

Source not entirely in the know but is connected to someone who works at the club....I've been told by he's rejected our contract offer. He remains committed to Dundee and wants to remain there as captain. Would be open to a move to Celtic but they have not submitted a bid at this time.

Thanks for sharing, though he’s not their captain. Only filling in for an injured Shaughnessy

[Cocaine&Caviar]

I think it was CJ Egan-Riley he did well in front of.


There is a name i would take back...

[Cabbage-Patch]

Thanks for sharing, though he’s not their captain. Only filling in for an injured Shaughnessy

I would suspect he's maybe been told will be permanent if he stays

[Heisenberg]

Source not entirely in the know but is connected to someone who works at the club....I've been told by he's rejected our contract offer. He remains committed to Dundee and wants to remain there as captain. Would be open to a move to Celtic but they have not submitted a bid at this time.

If we’ve spent all this time pursuing a player only for them to reject our offer it would be quite incredible. Club would surely only wait this long if they were sure he was keen and had discussed what kind of contract we’d offer

[Logie]

McCowan at Dundee training today. Don’t think it’s happening.

How do you know this mate? Curious as Dundee have not posted any training pictures today on Twitter anyway.

[JohnM1875]

If we’ve spent all this time pursuing a player only for them to reject our offer it would be quite incredible. Club would surely only wait this long if they were sure he was keen and had discussed what kind of contract we’d offer

... it's Hibs we're talking about here :wink:

[BoomtownHibees]

Source not entirely in the know but is connected to someone who works at the club....I've been told by he's rejected our contract offer. He remains committed to Dundee and wants to remain there as captain. Would be open to a move to Celtic but they have not submitted a bid at this time.

Surely we would know how interested he was before going in with multiple bids?

[JohnM1875]

I would suspect he's maybe been told will be permanent if he stays

Aye fair point

[The Tubs]

If we’ve spent all this time pursuing a player only for them to reject our offer it would be quite incredible. Club would surely only wait this long if they were sure he was keen and had discussed what kind of contract we’d offer

While this in a reasonable argument, his agent could also use us as a bargaining tool to get a better deal with other clubs.

[Smartie]

He can also change his mind - get a close look at us last weekend and think f that.

[JohnM1875]

How do you know this mate? Curious as Dundee have not posted any training pictures today on Twitter anyway.

Few folk saying he’s at training on the Dundee forum. Could be rubbish be be weird thing to make up.

[The Modfather]

I totally agree with this take.

FWIW I don’t think Obita on the other side is all that dissimilar. 3 at the back, those 2 as wingbacks allows us to get 2 strikers into the team as well.

Problems I have with that is that we don’t have a naturally left sided centre back for the left of the three, which I think you need when playing 3 at the back, but mainly - it leaves Boyle and Youan high and dry, who most of us would consider to be amongst our best players last season and this (although Youan is surely offski).

I think you need specialists if you’re going to play as a wingback. You need to be athletic, quick and more important have attacking quality. Wingbacks are the sole attacking width but the centre backs can cover for them defensively.

Boyle, under Lennon, and Doig, who essentially played as a wingback the season we finished 3rd are the type you need. Boyle was so good going forward the opposition didn’t have much of a chance to test him defensively. Doig had the athleticism and ability to go with it to play it effectively.

Cadden has the athleticism but is poor, IMO, in the final 3rd. Obita is probably closer to having the attacking ability, though he doesn’t get many assists, but will be 31 in December and wingback is generally a young mans game.

I think we would need to sign two specialist wingbacks to play it effectively. Though doing so and going 352 solves a lot of the recurring issues we struggle to get right IMO.

[Gordy M]

He could have said he was interested initially and open to a move, then Celtic come in last minute and turn his head, and either offer him a deal or tell him to sit tight til Jan? All these things could happen and not really the fault of Hibs.

[Logie]

Few folk saying he’s at training on the Dundee forum. Could be rubbish be be weird thing to make up.

Cheers!

[Gordy M]

He can also change his mind - get a close look at us last weekend and think f that.

Well see if that is his attitude he can GTF, most players would want to come and improve the team they are joining? Folk are talking like we were lucky to draw with Dundee...the other way around id suggest.

[Smartie]

I think you need specialists if you’re going to play as a wingback. You need to be athletic, quick and more important have attacking quality. Wingbacks are the sole attacking width but the centre backs can cover for them defensively.

Boyle, under Lennon, and Doig. Who essentially played as a wingback the season we finished 3rd are the type you need. Boyle was so good going forward the opposition didn’t have much of a chance to test him defensively. Doig had the athleticism and ability to go with it to play it effectively.

Cadden has the athleticism but is poor, IMO, opinion in the final 3rd. Obita is probably closer to having the attacking ability, though he doesn’t get many assists, but will be 31 in December and wingback is generally a young mans game.

I think we would need to sign two specialist wingbacks to play it effectively. Though doing so and going 352 solves a lot of the recurring issues we struggle to get right IMO.

Cadden’s final third issue is often hitting decent balls into an area where there are no players. It can be an affliction of the 451 when the striker has dropped off to get involved in the build up - nobody in the box.

With 2 strikers in the 352 that should certainly be less of a problem as you’d be more likely to be able to leave a player up there for the wingbacks to hit.

I actually thought his brother had a similar problem at the weekend - some decent enough looking balls in to nobody. He might be a shout for WB on the other wing?

[hibeerealist]

If we’ve spent all this time pursuing a player only for them to reject our offer it would be quite incredible. Club would surely only wait this long if they were sure he was keen and had discussed what kind of contract we’d offer


Absolutely H, there cannot be any truth to that the player will have been well briefed by his agent in terms of the contract Hibs were offering.

[Just_Jimmy]

Source not entirely in the know but is connected to someone who works at the club....I've been told he's rejected our contract offer. He remains committed to Dundee and wants to remain there as captain. Would be open to a move to Celtic but they have not submitted a bid at this time.If that's true, and hibs have chased him this long without knowing he'll come, we're stupider than I thought.

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[degenerated]

He can also change his mind - get a close look at us last weekend and think f that.Or maybe he's looked on here and other social media and thought f that.

[JohnM1875]

Apparently there was a Dundee rumour doing the rounds yesterday, McCowan to Celtic for a record fee and Ryan Gauld to Dundee 😂😂

Jesus Christ, they have one good season and this is what happens.

[Franck Stanton]

Getting really boring now. Time to move on. St Mirren, when we recently enquired about O'hara, quoted £900k. Bit of wheeling & dealing think we would sign him for less. Good player.

[Hibiza]

Shaping up to be a transfer window eve of " if onlys " " nearly s" if's and buts. Seen it all before unfortunately.

[Heisenberg]

I would say if we had been knocked back it would be out there by now. Dundee would be desperate to get that news to their fans via a journalist at the Courier or such like

[The Modfather]

Cadden’s final third issue is often hitting decent balls into an area where there are no players. It can be an affliction of the 451 when the striker has dropped off to get involved in the build up - nobody in the box.

With 2 strikers in the 352 that should certainly be less of a problem as you’d be more likely to be able to leave a player up there for the wingbacks to hit.

I actually thought his brother had a similar problem at the weekend - some decent enough looking balls in to nobody. He might be a shout for WB on the other wing?

I think Cadden shells balls into an area regardless of where our strikers are because of his limitations. We could work on the strikers being in those positions to take advantage, but it also becomes easier to defend when you know Caddens only tool is a low driven cross in between keeper and defenders. Defenders will start to stand in that channel and Cadden doesn’t have the ability to pick out players in the box IMO. In his defence it’s not easy to put a cross in having ran the length of the park or crossing while running at full pace. Our midfielders also don’t work as hard or as determined as other midfields in terms of breaking their neck to get into both boxes.

If Cadden is out of contract next summer I’d be moving him on.

[GloryGlory]

I would say if we had been knocked back it would be out there by now. Dundee would be desperate to get that news to their fans.

I suspect a bit of brinkmanship on Dundee's part - pressurising Hibs to add a bit more money or hoping another club comes in with a better offer.

[JohnM1875]

I would say if we had been knocked back it would be out there by now. Dundee would be desperate to get that news to their fans via a journalist at the Courier or such like

Technically the bid hasn't been knocked back though? McCowan just doesn't fancy the move if it's true. Not sure they'd report anything on that, still time for another team to come in for him from England or Celtic.

[GloryGlory]

He could have said he was interested initially and open to a move, then Celtic come in last minute and turn his head, and either offer him a deal or tell him to sit tight til Jan? All these things could happen and not really the fault of Hibs.

Or someone's tipped his agent off that Celtic (or someone else) will come in and offer a PCA in January where the player gets a big signing on fee and better wages and player and agent are happy to sit tight.

[badabing67]

I think it was CJ Egan-Riley he did well in front of.

He definitely had a more than acceptable run of form in that position at that time.


I thought he was out injured when CJER was here that's why we got him in. Would love to get him back though.

[GreenPJ]

Technically the bid hasn't been knocked back though? McCowan just doesn't fancy the move if it's true. Not sure they'd report anything on that, still time for another team to come in for him from England or Celtic.

We would not have made 3 bids if we weren't sure the player would be amenable to coming (and probably have agreed personal terms).

[Heisenberg]

Technically the bid hasn't been knocked back though? McCowan just doesn't fancy the move if it's true. Not sure they'd report anything on that, still time for another team to come in for him from England or Celtic.

The rumour from the same poster I think was that we’d had a bid accepted and he was thinking about our contract offer. Since has said we’ve been rejected by McCowan himself. That surely gets picked up somewhere in the press? Even if it’s someone friendly on the Hibs side putting out a story to say we’ve moved on with a positive spin on it

[ekhibee]

I seriously doubt Celtic are after McCowan but I don't think he's going to Hibs either. Celtic are after Engels from Augsburg and some guy that plays in the USA, a defender called Bogusz. I think they've already got that Barcelona guy on loan as well. We're not gonna get McCowan imo we should move on, there's plenty of good midfielders out there, whether they're available or not is another thing of course.

[JohnM1875]

Or someone's tipped his agent off that Celtic (or someone else) will come in and offer a PCA in January where the player gets a big signing on fee and better wages and player and agent are happy to sit tight.

Could be a variety of things that happened to make the deal fall through (if it even has). But the only thing that's important now is we have and are making moves on the other options.

[badabing67]

Think I’m beyond caring about the McCowan transfer now. Just hope we’re further down the line with someone else.

Wonder if there was anything in the Crowley chat or if it was made up bollocks.


Yeah f@#k him lets just move on, hope the Dee get relegated.

[Cabbage-Patch]

Jamal Blackman. 6'6 keeper. Chelsea academy graduate current free agent. Spent most of his career in and around the championship and league 1. Surely an option if we can get young Boruc out on loan

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jamal-blackman/profil/spieler/128898

[JohnM1875]

I’m starting to really hate Dundee 😂. A Leicester City fan signed up to their forum giving a breakdown of the new player. Standard stuff, happens all the time. Dundee fan replies;

‘It’s pretty robust up here but lots of skill and quality too especially at Dundee’

Especially at Dundee?! 😂. Again, one good top flight season.

[badabing67]

Jamal Blackman. 6'6 keeper. Chelsea academy graduate current free agent. Spent most of his career in and around the championship and league 1. Surely an option if we can get young Boruc out on loan

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jamal-blackman/profil/spieler/128898


Did we not have a 6'6 keeper from Arsenal that was duff

[Unseen work]

I’m starting to really hate Dundee 😂. A Leicester City fan signed up to their forum giving a breakdown of the new player. Standard stuff, happens all the time. Dundee fan replies;

‘It’s pretty robust up here but lots of skill and quality too especially at Dundee’

Especially at Dundee?! 😂. Again, one good top flight season.

Tbf you get Hibs fans saying the same and we haven’t exactly had a consistent period of success

[flash]

So he has agreed a deal, knocked back a deal and is still thinking about a deal while Dundee have accepted our last bid, rejected our last bid and are still considering it.

Hans Christian Anderson should start posting on here.

[badabing67]

Does any one know if Rudi gat a call up

[Hibernian Verse]

Does any one know if Rudi gat a call up

Murray Johnson and Kieron Bowie only

[Ronniekirk]

That’s possibly correct which begs the question, why give him a new 4 year deal?


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Investing on the future

[AugustaHibs]

Can we get Doyle hayes out asap?

[007 Mickey Weir]

Does any one know if Rudi gat a call up

In u19s I think

[Ozyhibby]

.

Investing on the future

He’s 20 though, he should be the ‘now’ by this stage.


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[Donegal Hibby]

Cadden generally fills me with fear wherever he plays.

There’s the fear of him being crap and leaving us exposed at right back and the fear of him offering absolutely nothing offensively if he’s played further forward.

I just don’t think he’s very good if I’m honest.

Around the time he got injured there was an article in one of the papers like EEN ( can’t remember which one now ) and it was about what Hibs would miss / he contributed to the team .

His stats offensively were quite impressive , he was actually up with a lot of our players attacking players and ahead of quite a few on somethings too.

I don’t think Cadden or Obita are bad players though neither are particularly good defensively . I would actually say last season we looked more vulnerable on the left side of the defence than the right which only resulted in two goals and no assists from Obita which is a poor contribution.

This season the left side of our defence has looked more vulnerable again so far and I think this is the main weakness in our team that other teams are very aware off and have / will continue to exploit unfortunately.

[Ronniekirk]

[QUOTE=JohnM1875;7756171]A few interesting players currently free agents

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWATK-FWIAIhMkq?format=jpg&name=small[
very interesting list but I doubt we are interested in any of them

[Donegal Hibby]

McCowan at Dundee training today. Don’t think it’s happening.

It might not but I wouldn’t read to much into him being at training tbh .

[Blaster]

The rumour from the same poster I think was that we’d had a bid accepted and he was thinking about our contract offer. Since has said we’ve been rejected by McCowan himself. That surely gets picked up somewhere in the press? Even if it’s someone friendly on the Hibs side putting out a story to say we’ve moved on with a positive spin on it

Yeah I was told last night Dundee were still hoping for a late bid from Celtic hence the delay. Expectation was he’ll most likely be playing for a team in green this weekend

[JohnM1875]

It might not but I wouldn’t read to much into him being at training tbh .

It absolutely means he hasn't signed, which a few folk had suggested was the case.

[Hibees1973]

If Messi was at Hibs, a few on Hibs.net would have found his flaws! 🙉

He is a bit greedy and wants to take all the free kicks.

[hibeerealist]

It absolutely means he hasn't signed, which a few folk had suggested was the case.


Could be saying his goodbyes to team mates

[McD]

If he’s not signed, leave the bid on the table and start negotiating for the next player on the list. If we sign him, tell Dundee the bud has been reduced by the necessary amount, take it or leave it


Dundee are right to try to get the best deal for themselves, but so are Hibs. For that kind of money we will have other options

[Ronniekirk]

Source not entirely in the know but is connected to someone who works at the club....I've been told he's rejected our contract offer. He remains committed to Dundee and wants to remain there as captain. Would be open to a move to Celtic but they have not submitted a bid at this time.
Well if that’s correct , Hibs will have been made aware and we move on to other targets we have been looking at as our Plan B
But also if true would imagine some sort of statement would come out today from Dundee confirming his decision But I think they are enjoying having hibs bid in play in hope some other club comes in and they can use our bid to try and get more money
I wouldn’t rule out a bid from Celtic but they are prioritising a higher calibre of player just now so if McCowan does go to them it’s likely to be a late decision if some of Thier main targets fall through
Just my thoughts at present

[JohnM1875]

If he’s not signed, leave the bid on the table and start negotiating for the next player on the list. If we sign him, tell Dundee the bud has been reduced by the necessary amount, take it or leave it


Dundee are right to try to get the best deal for themselves, but so are Hibs. For that kind of money we will have other options

You'd hope we've already been in contact about backup options.

I get it's a tough one for the club. He's so obviously and publicly our number one target, so I get them wanting to do everything they can to make it happen.

[Billy Whizz]

There is a name i would take back...

Been on the bench at Burnley recently

[Donegal Hibby]

It absolutely means he hasn't signed, which a few folk had suggested was the case.

While I very much appreciate it the rumours and what folk say they heard I normally take everything with a pinch of salt and only believe it when I see the magic pen in their hand or a Hibs scarf above their head .

We will just have to wait to see how this one plays out which could go right to the end of the deadline if we don’t move on to another target of course before then …