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Callum_62
16-08-2024, 11:35 AM
Another sound investment, what were we reported to have paid for him again? Always found it very coincidental that we signed the son of one of the new management team, all very strange.To be fair, I think he looks a very good prospect

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Hibees1973
16-08-2024, 11:45 AM
Another sound investment, what were we reported to have paid for him again? Always found it very coincidental that we signed the son of one of the new management team, all very strange.

Not any stranger than an owner appointing his wine seller son as head of football recruitment.

flash
16-08-2024, 11:46 AM
Not any stranger than an owner appointing his wine seller son as head of football recruitment.

Take a day off.

Brightside
16-08-2024, 11:46 AM
McAllister won't be hanging around when his contract ends.

Are you his agent?

Hibees1973
16-08-2024, 11:53 AM
Are you his agent?

Erm, no. What's that got to do with.

Just giving an opinion which is what hibs.net is for. My opinion is based on evidence which has gone before.

superfurryhibby
16-08-2024, 11:58 AM
Not any stranger than an owner appointing his wine seller son as head of football recruitment.

Trying too hard. It’s not like you’re not repeating the same old tired lines all the time.

We all know Ian Gordon ****ed things up, we also know there have been changes. Repeating the same view on every post you make is the epitome of boring.

Hibernian Verse
16-08-2024, 11:59 AM
Erm, no. What's that got to do with.

Just giving an opinion which is what hibs.net is for. My opinion is based on evidence which has gone before.

Opinions start with “I think that” or “I believe that” etc, you just post things as facts so people will question how you know.

A Hi-Bee
16-08-2024, 12:02 PM
Mis-information can be a divisive and sometimes dangerous thing, as for opinions we all have at least one.
I sometimes wonder, oh hold on is that the sound of a souped up rover I hear.
:thumbsup:

Iain G
16-08-2024, 12:13 PM
Erm, no. What's that got to do with.

Just giving an opinion which is what hibs.net is for. My opinion is based on evidence which has gone before.

What is the evidence?

Iain G
16-08-2024, 12:14 PM
Mis-information can be a divisive and sometimes dangerous thing, as for opinions we all have at least one.
I sometimes wonder, oh hold on is that the sound of a souped up rover I hear.
:thumbsup:

The sound of corduroy rubbing against velour? 😁

Johnny_Leith
16-08-2024, 12:19 PM
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2023/february/16/Josh-Campbell-Signs-Long-Term-Deal/

2027 contract expiry for Campbell

If there is any interest in him whatsoever we'd be mad not to take it.

Centre Hawf
16-08-2024, 12:31 PM
About 250k I think

I know thats what was floated about at the time on social media but I'd be amazed if we spent Levitt level money on an actual child for the sake of him being with his dad.

Trinity Hibee
16-08-2024, 12:32 PM
I know thats what was floated about at the time on social media but I'd be amazed if we spent Levitt level money on an actual child for the sake of him being with his dad.

Fair enough. Who knows what it was then

TrinityHFC
16-08-2024, 12:32 PM
I know thats what was floated about at the time on social media but I'd be amazed if we spent Levitt level money on an actual child for the sake of him being with his dad.

You believe that’s why he was signed?

Hibees1973
16-08-2024, 12:36 PM
What is the evidence?

The evidence is a constant churn of managers and a revolving door of players throughout the time McAllister has been here.

This is hardly conducive to a young player trying to develop and make progress. He has had to cope with different styles of managers and no continuity throughout the whole club. I think McAllister's contract expires next year which MacKay has already alluded to is going to be another time when loads of players will leave.

I have seen promise in McAllister. There is a small chance he will develop and get first team football under Gray. However, it's likely the damage has already been done to him wanting to remain.

It's almost similar to Vente. I think Vente has talent, however we have been unable to get the best out of him and integrate him in the side due to the state of the club. That's why he has now gone out on loan.

Centre Hawf
16-08-2024, 12:40 PM
You believe that’s why he was signed?

For what it's worth he's actually looked a handy wee player in the times I've seen him play, but I think the reality of the situation is he probably wouldn't have been thought of by us at all if we didn't hire his dad about 2 to 3 months prior.

With what I've heard regarding his move and how it's all played out so far I think we helped a new coaching member get his laddie back up the road nearer his family.

Iain G
16-08-2024, 12:49 PM
The evidence is a constant churn of managers and a revolving door of players throughout the time McAllister has been here.

This is hardly conducive to a young player trying to develop and make progress. He has had to cope with different styles of managers and no continuity throughout the whole club. I think McAllister's contract expires next year which MacKay has already alluded to is going to be another time when loads of players will leave.

I have seen promise in McAllister. There is a small chance he will develop and get first team football under Gray. However, it's likely the damage has already been done to him wanting to remain.

It's almost similar to Vente. I think Vente has talent, however we have been unable to get the best out of him and integrate him in the side due to the state of the club. That's why he has now gone out on loan.

Has he not mostly been with the age group teams though? Change of first team coach/manager should not have a huge impact as his coaches (is it Gareth Evans?) were consistent.

David Gray has been a constant in his time here and will know all about his potential and ability.

Hibees1973
16-08-2024, 12:58 PM
Has he not mostly been with the age group teams though? Change of first team coach/manager should not have a huge impact as his coaches (is it Gareth Evans?) were consistent.

David Gray has been a constant in his time here and will know all about his potential and ability.

Fair enough Iain G and I understand your point of view.

Another piece of evidence is the best prospect we had in this age group recently, Ethan Laidlaw, decided his best option to develop was to move away from Hibs.

If he develops and becomes a better player than the one's we currently have and gets in the first team I will be delighted.

Will see how this one plays out, but my hunch is that McAllister won't be here this time next year.

A Hi-Bee
16-08-2024, 01:04 PM
Frederico Moralles, just seen getting off the number 1 bus, he did not pass Greggs, but with a bag of goodies he was seen moving around to the main entrance of Easter Road. he is believed to have made sure that a Ryan Porteous was not in the building before entering and giving the empty Greggs bag to his agent looking companion.
You heard it here first.
:thumbsup:

Hibee Daft
16-08-2024, 01:11 PM
The only problem i have with the Mcallister signing is that we only gave him a 3 year deal.

Who signs a 16 year old for 250k and then gives them a 3 year deal?

If spending that much money then should be backing it at the time with a 5 year deal.

Brightside
16-08-2024, 01:17 PM
Fair enough Iain G and I understand your point of view.

Another piece of evidence is the best prospect we had in this age group recently, Ethan Laidlaw, decided his best option to develop was to move away from Hibs.

If he develops and becomes a better player than the one's we currently have and gets in the first team I will be delighted.

Will see how this one plays out, but my hunch is that McAllister won't be here this time next year.

Ethan hasn't developed.

CapitalGreen
16-08-2024, 01:24 PM
The only problem i have with the Mcallister signing is that we only gave him a 3 year deal.

Who signs a 16 year old for 250k and then gives them a 3 year deal?

If spending that much money then should be backing it at the time with a 5 year deal.

You are not allowed to give a contract longer than 3 years to an under 18 player.

If he leaves at the end of his contract we will be entitled to a sizeable development fee.

Smartie
16-08-2024, 01:29 PM
Fair enough Iain G and I understand your point of view.

Another piece of evidence is the best prospect we had in this age group recently, Ethan Laidlaw, decided his best option to develop was to move away from Hibs.

If he develops and becomes a better player than the one's we currently have and gets in the first team I will be delighted.

Will see how this one plays out, but my hunch is that McAllister won't be here this time next year.

I suspect Rudi might this season make a strong argument that we're a very good place to develop and get a chance in the first team when ready.

They're the same age, albeit Rudi's quite a bit more physically advanced for his age than McAllister.

I'd say the jury's out on McAllister staying etc. His Dad will probably be hurting a bit about his own treatment at Hibs but he wouldn't be much of a dad if he let that get in the way of his son's best interests - and I'd be amazed if that was anything like the case.

MWHIBBIES
16-08-2024, 01:30 PM
You are not allowed to give a contract longer than 3 years to an under 18 player.

If he leaves at the end of his contract we will be entitled to a sizeable development fee.

Sizeable? For a guy with 1 game for us? We'll maybe get 50k.

TrinityHFC
16-08-2024, 01:30 PM
For what it's worth he's actually looked a handy wee player in the times I've seen him play, but I think the reality of the situation is he probably wouldn't have been thought of by us at all if we didn't hire his dad about 2 to 3 months prior.

With what I've heard regarding his move and how it's all played out so far I think we helped a new coaching member get his laddie back up the road nearer his family.


“He was pretty much ready to sign a three-year deal at Bristol City then the gaffer put it to me that he wanted to sign Reuben,” McAllister told the Edinburgh Evening News. “It took him two or three weeks to make the decision, it was tough, but he made the decision himself.


"Myself and my wife just said, ‘weigh up the pros and cons of staying at Bristol City, weigh up the pros and cons of coming to Hibs, it’s on you’. We couldn’t decide it for him, because in a year or two’s time he could turn round and say: ‘Dad, you told me to do that,’ if it wasn’t the right one.

“He’s 16 years old now so it was up to him to make the decision. He said he wanted a fresh challenge and that he was excited by the opportunity. They gave him his programme and the gaffer sold it to him, it was nothing to do with me. It was strange. I’m probably his hardest critic.”

City could net up to £500,000 for the departure of McAllister, should various clauses around appearances and national representation be met, but there is still regret and frustration that McAllister’s best days will be experienced elsewhere.


McAllister had been commuting from Edinburgh to Bristol, with the family based in Long Ashton, but with Reuben now moving to the Scottish capital, his wife and other children have followed him to Scotland.

“I told him right away that everyone would think he’s here because I am,” McAllister added. “He has to cope with that, but if he goes on the grass and shows what he can do that should be enough.

“It’s tough, it’s different. I was at Bristol City when he was there but I was only a coach and he was there from 8 to 16. It’s different now he’s closer to the first team and the gaffer signed him. It’s an interesting one!”

007
16-08-2024, 01:32 PM
If there is any interest in him whatsoever we'd be mad not to take it.

Wigan reportedly bid for him before so maybe Maloney will try again.

Smartie
16-08-2024, 01:33 PM
You are not allowed to give a contract longer than 3 years to an under 18 player.

If he leaves at the end of his contract we will be entitled to a sizeable development fee.

Do we have to offer him a new contract on the same terms or better in order for that to be the case re the development fee?

I can't remember exactly how it works.

1875Sean
16-08-2024, 01:34 PM
On that note

🚨 Understand there is nothing in the links suggesting Hibs are in talks to sign Adrian Grbic on loan from Lorient.

https://x.com/bmeik11/status/1824386271277367433?t=ahT71JaJ7moz_fAuhgwCkA&s=19

I see he has backtracked on twitter now, he just have read your post

04Sauzee
16-08-2024, 01:40 PM
Might start a Kevin van Veen to Hibs rumour seems if it gets picked up 🙂

HoboHarry
16-08-2024, 01:43 PM
Just read on the BBC that we have shipped out 29 players - transfers, players ending loans to us and us loaning out players. Talk about cleaning house lol. If MM is saying that next summer will be the major rebuild time that that'll be something to watch....

Billy Whizz
16-08-2024, 01:44 PM
Might start a Kevin van Veen to Hibs rumour seems if it gets picked up 🙂

He’ll be heading somewhere as he’s not playing for Groningen as it stands

Trinity Hibee
16-08-2024, 01:49 PM
Just read on the BBC that we have shipped out 29 players - transfers, players ending loans to us and us loaning out players. Talk about cleaning house lol. If MM is saying that next summer will be the major rebuild time that that'll be something to watch....

In: Kieron Bowie, forward (Fulham, undisclosed); Junior Hoilett, forward (Aberdeen); Nicky Cadden, midfielder (Barnsley); Marvin Ekpiteta, defender (Blackpool); Warren O’Hora, defender (MK Dons); Jordan Smith, goalkeeper (Stockport County).

Loan in: Kwon Hyeok-kyu, midfielder (Celtic); Mykola Kuharevich, forward (Swansea City); Josef Bursik, goalkeeper (Club Bruges)

Out: Ewan Henderson, midfielder (Beerschot, undisclosed); Lewis Stevenson, defender (Raith Rovers); Paul Hanlon, defender (Raith Rovers); Jojo Wollacott, goalkeeper (Crawley Town); Jacob Blaney, defender (Crusaders, undisclosed); Daniel MacKay, forward (Partick Thistle); Dylan Tait, defender (Falkirk); Riley Harbottle, defender (Wimbledon, undisclosed); Harry Wright, midfielder (Stirling Albion); Robbie Hamilton, midfielder (Edinburgh City); David Marshall, goalkeeper (retired); Adam Le Fondre, forward; Jamie Bulloch, defender; Owen Hastie, defender; Jay McGarva, midfielder; Alfie Smith, midfielder.

Loan ended: Myziane Maolida, forward (Hertha Berlin); Emiliano Marcondes, midfielder (Bournemouth); Will Fish, defender (Manchester United); Eliezer Mayenda, forward (Sunderland); Nectarios Triantis, defender (Sunderland).

Loan out: Dylan Vente, forward (Zwolle); Josh O’Connor, forward (Dundalk); Kyle McClelland, defender (Coleraine); Murray Johnson, goalkeeper (Airdrieonians); Murray Aiken, midfielder (Airdrieonians); Oscar MacIntyre, defender (Queen of the South); Malik Zaid, forward (Annan Athletic); Rory Whittaker, defender (The Spartans); Freddie Owens, goalkeeper (Civil Service Strollers).

Since452
16-08-2024, 01:50 PM
In: Kieron Bowie, forward (Fulham, undisclosed); Junior Hoilett, forward (Aberdeen); Nicky Cadden, midfielder (Barnsley); Marvin Ekpiteta, defender (Blackpool); Warren O’Hora, defender (MK Dons); Jordan Smith, goalkeeper (Stockport County).

Loan in: Kwon Hyeok-kyu, midfielder (Celtic); Mykola Kuharevich, forward (Swansea City); Josef Bursik, goalkeeper (Club Bruges)

Out: Ewan Henderson, midfielder (Beerschot, undisclosed); Lewis Stevenson, defender (Raith Rovers); Paul Hanlon, defender (Raith Rovers); Jojo Wollacott, goalkeeper (Crawley Town); Jacob Blaney, defender (Crusaders, undisclosed); Daniel MacKay, forward (Partick Thistle); Dylan Tait, defender (Falkirk); Riley Harbottle, defender (Wimbledon, undisclosed); Harry Wright, midfielder (Stirling Albion); Robbie Hamilton, midfielder (Edinburgh City); David Marshall, goalkeeper (retired); Adam Le Fondre, forward; Jamie Bulloch, defender; Owen Hastie, defender; Jay McGarva, midfielder; Alfie Smith, midfielder.

Loan ended: Myziane Maolida, forward (Hertha Berlin); Emiliano Marcondes, midfielder (Bournemouth); Will Fish, defender (Manchester United); Eliezer Mayenda, forward (Sunderland); Nectarios Triantis, defender (Sunderland).

Loan out: Dylan Vente, forward (Zwolle); Josh O’Connor, forward (Dundalk); Kyle McClelland, defender (Coleraine); Murray Johnson, goalkeeper (Airdrieonians); Murray Aiken, midfielder (Airdrieonians); Oscar MacIntyre, defender (Queen of the South); Malik Zaid, forward (Annan Athletic); Rory Whittaker, defender (The Spartans); Freddie Owens, goalkeeper (Civil Service Strollers).

People will still say we are twiddling our thumbs doing nothing.

04Sauzee
16-08-2024, 01:50 PM
He’ll be heading somewhere as he’s not playing for Groningen as it stands

I'm sure last season he was desperate to return to Scotland. Although another Dutch team is supposedly interested in him.

Shrekko
16-08-2024, 01:57 PM
I'm sure last season he was desperate to return to Scotland. Although another Dutch team is supposedly interested in him.

He did return to Scotland last season... although you'd barely notice seeing as he didn't score a single goal for Killie.

badabing67
16-08-2024, 02:11 PM
He did return to Scotland last season... although you'd barely notice seeing as he didn't score a single goal for Killie.


I think Magennis played more minutes than him last season

Billy Whizz
16-08-2024, 02:15 PM
I think Magennis played more minutes than him last season

I noticed he’s not been playing for killie either this season
Thought he’d have been fit by now

JohnM1875
16-08-2024, 02:16 PM
I noticed he’s not been playing for killie either this season
Thought he’d have been fit by now

Don't think the poor guy will ever be fully fit. Shame for him.

Hopefully he's been smart with his money over the course of his career so far.

Nicho87
16-08-2024, 02:16 PM
I noticed he’s not been playing for killie either this season
Thought he’d have been fit by now

Amazing to think some hibs fans questioned us letting him go

Good player when fit, sadly that is just never enough

Donegal Hibby
16-08-2024, 02:34 PM
Now with Vente away and probably another striker coming which will probably be a loan signing , where does this leave Mckirdy ? . Interesting article about the battle to be for the No 9 role ....

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/exclusive-hibs-boss-on-battle-for-no-9-role-as-myko-and-bowie-compete-for-main-man-status-4744750

JohnM1875
16-08-2024, 02:36 PM
Now with Vente away and probably another striker coming which will probably be a loan signing , where does this leave Mckirdy ? . Interesting article about the battle to be for the No 9 role ....

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/exclusive-hibs-boss-on-battle-for-no-9-role-as-myko-and-bowie-compete-for-main-man-status-4744750

Heading out on loan hopefully. One of the few remaining players of the poor recruitment years.

Donegal Hibby
16-08-2024, 02:43 PM
Heading out on loan hopefully. One of the few remaining players of the poor recruitment years.

I would think that would be the most likely outcome as his game time at us I think will be pretty limited now.

HoboHarry
16-08-2024, 02:48 PM
Heading out on loan hopefully. One of the few remaining players of the poor recruitment years.
Not sure that any club would consider him until he is fully recovered and match fit.

Centre Hawf
16-08-2024, 02:57 PM
“He was pretty much ready to sign a three-year deal at Bristol City then the gaffer put it to me that he wanted to sign Reuben,” McAllister told the Edinburgh Evening News. “It took him two or three weeks to make the decision, it was tough, but he made the decision himself.


"Myself and my wife just said, ‘weigh up the pros and cons of staying at Bristol City, weigh up the pros and cons of coming to Hibs, it’s on you’. We couldn’t decide it for him, because in a year or two’s time he could turn round and say: ‘Dad, you told me to do that,’ if it wasn’t the right one.

“He’s 16 years old now so it was up to him to make the decision. He said he wanted a fresh challenge and that he was excited by the opportunity. They gave him his programme and the gaffer sold it to him, it was nothing to do with me. It was strange. I’m probably his hardest critic.”

City could net up to £500,000 for the departure of McAllister, should various clauses around appearances and national representation be met, but there is still regret and frustration that McAllister’s best days will be experienced elsewhere.


McAllister had been commuting from Edinburgh to Bristol, with the family based in Long Ashton, but with Reuben now moving to the Scottish capital, his wife and other children have followed him to Scotland.

“I told him right away that everyone would think he’s here because I am,” McAllister added. “He has to cope with that, but if he goes on the grass and shows what he can do that should be enough.

“It’s tough, it’s different. I was at Bristol City when he was there but I was only a coach and he was there from 8 to 16. It’s different now he’s closer to the first team and the gaffer signed him. It’s an interesting one!”

I hardly expect him to come out and say "the club did me a favour and signed my laddie so we could all live together again."

Hibiza
16-08-2024, 03:00 PM
I think Malcky Mackay is playing a blinder . Keep it up Malcky .

Lago
16-08-2024, 03:00 PM
Gone very quiet on the McCowan front.

EGL2000
16-08-2024, 03:05 PM
Gone very quiet on the McCowan front.

Imagine we have moved on and rightfully so in my opinion. Can definitely still find quality elsewhere for 750k.

JohnM1875
16-08-2024, 03:09 PM
Not sure that any club would consider him until he is fully recovered and match fit.

Aye fair point, so probably here til Jan. Out of contract this summer I'm sure?

erin go bragh
16-08-2024, 03:23 PM
Gone very quiet on the McCowan front.

No reports of Dundee rejecting our 3rd bid

Jones28
16-08-2024, 03:25 PM
Gone very quiet on the McCowan front.

Good news IMO, if the bid had been knocked back it would've been announced by now.

hibees 7062
16-08-2024, 03:29 PM
No reports of Dundee rejecting our 3rd bid
I think we’re waiting till after we play them .

Centre Hawf
16-08-2024, 03:36 PM
I think we’re waiting till after we play them .

I imagine you're right in that there won't be anything coming out now until after that game.

Callum_62
16-08-2024, 03:38 PM
Imagine we have moved on and rightfully so in my opinion. Can definitely still find quality elsewhere for 750k.Given it's not been rejected by any reasonable source I'd say it's looking promising

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JimBHibees
16-08-2024, 03:44 PM
People will still say we are twiddling our thumbs doing nothing.

Huge turnover good to see. Players arriving looking much more likely to make an impact imo. Of course it will take time to settle and a wee bit of support rather than players being slaughtered after every mistake would help. Quietly confident we will do ok this year.

JimBHibees
16-08-2024, 03:45 PM
Given it's not been rejected by any reasonable source I'd say it's looking promising

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Agree and was interesting Jim Spence famous Dundee reporter indicated McCowan would be away next week setting expectations imo

DIXIHIBS
16-08-2024, 03:47 PM
In: Kieron Bowie, forward (Fulham, undisclosed); Junior Hoilett, forward (Aberdeen); Nicky Cadden, midfielder (Barnsley); Marvin Ekpiteta, defender (Blackpool); Warren O’Hora, defender (MK Dons); Jordan Smith, goalkeeper (Stockport County).

Loan in: Kwon Hyeok-kyu, midfielder (Celtic); Mykola Kuharevich, forward (Swansea City); Josef Bursik, goalkeeper (Club Bruges)

Out: Ewan Henderson, midfielder (Beerschot, undisclosed); Lewis Stevenson, defender (Raith Rovers); Paul Hanlon, defender (Raith Rovers); Jojo Wollacott, goalkeeper (Crawley Town); Jacob Blaney, defender (Crusaders, undisclosed); Daniel MacKay, forward (Partick Thistle); Dylan Tait, defender (Falkirk); Riley Harbottle, defender (Wimbledon, undisclosed); Harry Wright, midfielder (Stirling Albion); Robbie Hamilton, midfielder (Edinburgh City); David Marshall, goalkeeper (retired); Adam Le Fondre, forward; Jamie Bulloch, defender; Owen Hastie, defender; Jay McGarva, midfielder; Alfie Smith, midfielder.

Loan ended: Myziane Maolida, forward (Hertha Berlin); Emiliano Marcondes, midfielder (Bournemouth); Will Fish, defender (Manchester United); Eliezer Mayenda, forward (Sunderland); Nectarios Triantis, defender (Sunderland).

Loan out: Dylan Vente, forward (Zwolle); Josh O’Connor, forward (Dundalk); Kyle McClelland, defender (Coleraine); Murray Johnson, goalkeeper (Airdrieonians); Murray Aiken, midfielder (Airdrieonians); Oscar MacIntyre, defender (Queen of the South); Malik Zaid, forward (Annan Athletic); Rory Whittaker, defender (The Spartans); Freddie Owens, goalkeeper (Civil Service Strollers).

That's a huge turnover in staff. Hopefully quality over quantity...

yerauldda
16-08-2024, 03:47 PM
Agree and was interesting Jim Spence famous Dundee reporter indicated McCowan would be away next week setting expectations imo

Think that was more of an inference that he expects him to end up at Celtic, though.

JimBHibees
16-08-2024, 03:51 PM
Think that was more of an inference that he expects him to end up at Celtic, though.

Ok not so good then 😊

Lago
16-08-2024, 03:54 PM
Imagine we have moved on and rightfully so in my opinion. Can definitely still find quality elsewhere for 750k.
Starting to think that maybe the case, time will tell.

Stanton Spence
16-08-2024, 04:01 PM
Imagine we have moved on and rightfully so in my opinion. Can definitely still find quality elsewhere for 750k.
I don’t disagree that we probably could find quality for 750k but we could also spend that on another Vente
750k doesn’t guarantee quality nowadays

LaMotta
16-08-2024, 04:03 PM
Given it's not been rejected by any reasonable source I'd say it's looking promising

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Just a thought but given that McCowan is already cup tied then it would make sense for him to have one final cup game for Dundee tomorrow - no point in him signing for us this week and sitting out the weekend. He can then be unveiled by the Hibees early next week.

Hibby Kay-Yay
16-08-2024, 04:05 PM
Just a thought but given that McCowan is already cup tied then it would make sense for him to have one final cup game for Dundee tomorrow - no point in him signing for us this week and sitting out the weekend. He can then be unveiled by the Hibees early next week.

If that is the case then I hope he doesn’t get injured, or that we have a back out clause if he does.

JohnM1875
16-08-2024, 04:06 PM
Just a thought but given that McCowan is already cup tied then it would make sense for him to have one final cup game for Dundee tomorrow - no point in him signing for us this week and sitting out the weekend. He can then be unveiled by the Hibees early next week.

Think he’ll absolutely play this weekend. Just hope he doesn't get injured.

MelbourneHibees
16-08-2024, 04:07 PM
Just a thought but given that McCowan is already cup tied then it would make sense for him to have one final cup game for Dundee tomorrow - no point in him signing for us this week and sitting out the weekend. He can then be unveiled by the Hibees early next week.
🤣

You think Dundee would field a player that
A) Has agreed a deal to sign for a rival team the following week.
B) Having agreed to sell that player for nearly £1 Million risk him in a match that could see the deal collapsed if he gets injured.

If he is in the squad then the deal has not been accepted.

LaMotta
16-08-2024, 04:10 PM
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You think Dundee would field a player that
A) Has agreed a deal to sign for a rival team the following week.
B) Having agreed to sell that player for nearly £1 Million risk him in a match that could see the deal collapsed if he gets injured.

Yes of course, things like that happen all the time. Dundee getting through to the next round is huge for them, a good draw sees them with a great chance of a trip to Hampden worth significant money for them.

He's a footballer who could get injured at any time, the chances of him having a long term injury from one game are so small its not worth bothering about. If he gets a knock and is out for a few weeks its not going to scupper a deal.

Glory Lurker
16-08-2024, 04:12 PM
Surely him being injured would mean we wanted to sign him even more? 😀

HoboHarry
16-08-2024, 04:13 PM
🤣

You think Dundee would field a player that
A) Has agreed a deal to sign for a rival team the following week.
B) Having agreed to sell that player for nearly £1 Million risk him in a match that could see the deal collapsed if he gets injured.

If he is in the squad then the deal has not been accepted.
You can disagree with the poster and present your side without the need for the laughing emoji, no need.

MelbourneHibees
16-08-2024, 04:14 PM
Yes of course, things like that happen all the time. Dundee getting through to the next round is huge for them, a good draw sees them with a great chance of a trip to Hampden worth significant money for them.

He's a footballer who could get injured at any time, the chances of him having a long term injury from one game are so small its not worth bothering about. If he gets a knock and is out for a few weeks its not going to scupper a deal.
They don't happen all the time though do they? If a player is imminently about to sign a deal for another team, they are not included in the matchday squads. And an injury that is initially thought to be for a few weeks could absolutely scupper a deal.

MelbourneHibees
16-08-2024, 04:15 PM
You can disagree with the poster and present your side without the need for the laughing emoji, no need.
It's a laughable suggestion.

Springbank
16-08-2024, 04:17 PM
They don't happen all the time though do they? If a player is imminently about to sign a deal for another team, they are not included in the matchday squads. And an injury that is initially thought to be for a few weeks could absolutely scupper a deal.

Scott Brown played for Hibs & scored for Hibs versus Celtic in a 2-1 Hibs win after he had revealed a £4.4m transfer had been agreed

HoboHarry
16-08-2024, 04:18 PM
Scott Brown played for Hibs & scored for Hibs versus Celtic in a 2-1 Hibs win after he had revealed a £4.4m transfer had been agreed

Correct, and both Hibs and Celtic fans cheered when he scored IIRC.

04Sauzee
16-08-2024, 04:21 PM
I find this transfer bizarre, remember watching him on the TV when hearts were in the championship and thinking he was decent. But I never seen this coming tbh

Several top European clubs are pursuing West Ham United’s Scottish midfielder Andy Irving as the English Premier League season prepares to kick-off. Europa League winners Atalanta and Spanish side Espanyol are among those who have made approaches for the former Hearts player, the Edinburgh News can reveal.

A number of others are also keen to capture his signature, including teams who can offer guaranteed Champions League football. There is added interest from British clubs and from the German Bundesliga. West Ham are yet to make a final decision on whether to keep Irving or loan him out before the transfer window closes on 30 August.

LaMotta
16-08-2024, 04:22 PM
They don't happen all the time though do they? If a player is imminently about to sign a deal for another team, they are not included in the matchday squads. And an injury that is initially thought to be for a few weeks could absolutely scupper a deal.


It's a laughable suggestion.

I'm not sure if its too much Victoria Bitter or maybe the St Kilda sea air - its not doing much for you. What's laughable is that you are so sure it doesn't happen. I know for a fact from speaking to people within the game that it happens, so you might want to calm down with your smugness.



Scott Brown played for Hibs & scored for Hibs versus Celtic in a 2-1 Hibs win after he had revealed a £4.4m transfer had been agreed

Exactly. Also, players get signed with known knocks as well - Man U just signed Leny Yoro for over £50m despite knowing he had a knock.

LaMotta
16-08-2024, 04:26 PM
You can disagree with the poster and present your side without the need for the laughing emoji, no need.

:aok:

MelbourneHibees
16-08-2024, 04:27 PM
I'm not sure if its too much Victoria Bitter or maybe the St Kilda sea air - its not doing much for you. What's laughable is that you are so sure it doesn't happen. I know for a fact from speaking to people within the game that it happens, so you might want to calm down with your smugness.




Exactly. Also, players get signed with known knocks as well - Man U just signed Leny Yoro for over £50m despite knowing he had a knock.

I never said injured players don't get signed. I said it could scupper deal.

MelbourneHibees
16-08-2024, 04:29 PM
Scott Brown played for Hibs & scored for Hibs versus Celtic in a 2-1 Hibs win after he had revealed a £4.4m transfer had been agreed

This happened at the end of the season where any injuries wouldn't impact Celtic's season that year and would likely have healed during close season.

Celtic players were also hardly going to go and injure their own player either were they?

And that's 1 example from nearly 20 years ago.

LaMotta
16-08-2024, 04:29 PM
I never said injured players don't get signed. I said it could scupper deal.

You said it was laughable the idea that Dundee would field the player after agreeing to a transfer. I'm saying that's not laughable because it happens. As evidenced above by the Scott Brown example.:aok:

Billy Whizz
16-08-2024, 04:34 PM
You said it was laughable the idea that Dundee would field the player after agreeing to a transfer. I'm saying that's not laughable because it happens. As evidenced above by the Scott Brown example.:aok:

They have a prize of a place in the last 8 of the cup, and a game away from a trip to Hampden

greenginger
16-08-2024, 04:36 PM
You said it was laughable the idea that Dundee would field the player after agreeing to a transfer. I'm saying that's not laughable because it happens. As evidenced above by the Scott Brown example.:aok:

Was that game not the last of the season and league places had been settled.

Deeks scored for Celtic IIRC

LaMotta
16-08-2024, 04:38 PM
They have a prize of a place in the last 8 of the cup, and a game away from a trip to Hampden

:agree::agree::agree:

MelbourneHibees
16-08-2024, 04:43 PM
They have a prize of a place in the last 8 of the cup, and a game away from a trip to Hampden

And so do Airdie, who will need to fight tooth and nail to get a result. It could be a very scrappy affair if Dundee don't see them off early. Not the type of match you want to risk your 800k player in. Unlike a dead rubber at the end of the season against the team you are sending the player to.

LaMotta
16-08-2024, 04:45 PM
Was that game not the last of the season and league places had been settled.

Deeks scored for Celtic IIRC

You are right, Sproule scored the winner for us.

The fact it was the last game of the season is neither her nor there though - Brown could have been injured short or long term. It proves that clubs can and will agree to sell a player and then subsequently pay him for the sale completion. It's not something that would normally be widely publicised.

I have no idea if McCowan will sign for us, but if he is going to, it would seem sensible for both parties in this situation to agree to that. Dundee would push for it (to help best possible chance of cup progression) and Hibs would reluctantly agree to get the deal done. Same applies if Celtic are going to sign him.

Tambo
16-08-2024, 04:46 PM
To be fair, I think he looks a very good prospect

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Came in very highly rated and was maybe considered a coup? His father probably helped the deal, I doubt he will be following him around forever, had definitely got better over the past season and hope we can tie him down to a longer deal.

007
16-08-2024, 04:46 PM
Surely him being injured would mean we wanted to sign him even more? 😀

If he's injured then surely we can knock a few £k off the price. A bit like what WeBuyAnyCar do with every little scratch they find.

Hibiza
16-08-2024, 04:49 PM
If he's injured then surely we can knock a few £k off the price. A bit like what WeBuyAnyCar do with every little scratch they find.

🤣🤣🤣

Houston7
16-08-2024, 04:52 PM
Correct, and both Hibs and Celtic fans cheered when he scored IIRC.

I remember it well as I was at the game. I was amused by Celts fans singing that’s why they had signed him - as he wasn’t exactly a prolific goal scorer.

Hibees1973
16-08-2024, 04:57 PM
I think Malcky Mackay is playing a blinder . Keep it up Malcky .

He should be commended for moving on a lot of players, albeit some are out on loan and we will probably still be paying a chunk of their wages. I suspect he will have had some very uncomfortable conversations with players and encouraging them that their futures lie elsewhere.

There are a good few players still here we know have failed and shouldn't have been recruited in the first place.

There is no doubt MacKay and Gray will have spent a lot of time clearing up some of the mess they inherited.

Can only hope the majority of the players signed in this window prove to be a success and we can forget about the sorry mess created in the last few years.

Waxy
16-08-2024, 04:58 PM
I have nothing bad to say about Dundee.
Albert Kidd was one of my favorites.

HUTCHYHIBBY
16-08-2024, 05:02 PM
They don't happen all the time though do they? If a player is imminently about to sign a deal for another team, they are not included in the matchday squads. And an injury that is initially thought to be for a few weeks could absolutely scupper a deal.

I concur.

HUTCHYHIBBY
16-08-2024, 05:04 PM
Scott Brown played for Hibs & scored for Hibs versus Celtic in a 2-1 Hibs win after he had revealed a £4.4m transfer had been agreed

Exactly, not all the time really is it, how long ago was that?

Donegal Hibby
16-08-2024, 05:05 PM
Did Dundee reject our first two bids fairly quickly?

JohnM1875
16-08-2024, 05:09 PM
Did Dundee reject our first two bids fairly quickly?

Think we pretty much heard same day they'd been rejected. Could be wrong though.

The fact we haven't heard of a rejection makes me think it's been accepted.

Waxy
16-08-2024, 05:16 PM
I think we will know more by the 34th August.

Nah i think a day or two before.
I’ll guess the 32nd of August

HoboHarry
16-08-2024, 05:18 PM
Nah i think a day or two before.
I’ll guess the 32nd of August

This year or next year?

Donegal Hibby
16-08-2024, 05:24 PM
Think we pretty much heard same day they'd been rejected. Could be wrong though.

The fact we haven't heard of a rejection makes me think it's been accepted.

I sort of thought it was pretty quickly which would make you think maybe they are still mauling over it as it’s a decent offer or it’s possibly been accepted 🤞.

I suppose no news is good news on this situation.. wither it is or not i still expect him to play for them this weekend. Be interesting if there’s any reaction from him at the end of the game though.

MagicSwirlingShip
16-08-2024, 05:37 PM
My prediction, he hands in a late transfer request tonight and is left out this weekend as his “heads not right”

Any other entries in MacGruber transfer saga Bingo?

Col2
16-08-2024, 05:38 PM
I suspect the silence on McCowan bid is to avoid distraction for cup game tomorrow. He couldn’t play for us anyway (cup tied). I think we will see him sign early next week.

bod
16-08-2024, 05:41 PM
& picks up a slight knock that keeps him out of the game on the Saturday

TrinityHFC
16-08-2024, 06:14 PM
They don't happen all the time though do they? If a player is imminently about to sign a deal for another team, they are not included in the matchday squads. And an injury that is initially thought to be for a few weeks could absolutely scupper a deal.

Vente was in our squad and came on last weekend. His loan deal has been discussed for a couple of weeks.

Eyrie
16-08-2024, 06:16 PM
I still think he'll sign next Friday.

Means we won't have to face him and it'll be "too soon" for him to be added to the team so Dundee don't either.

Since452
16-08-2024, 06:21 PM
They have a prize of a place in the last 8 of the cup, and a game away from a trip to Hampden

Are the playing The Rangers next?

eastmainsmsh
16-08-2024, 06:41 PM
Vente was in our squad and came on last weekend. His loan deal has been discussed for a couple of weeks.

It's good for Vente and us if he does well in Eredevise

eastmainsmsh
16-08-2024, 06:43 PM
I have nothing bad to say about Dundee.
Albert Kidd was one of my favorites.

What a one two with big G Harvey that day 😆 🤣

zitelli62
16-08-2024, 07:10 PM
& picks up a slight knock that keeps him out of the game on the Saturday

Correct.

scm70nyd1973
16-08-2024, 07:17 PM
What a one two with big G Harvey that day 😆 🤣

What day - what happened- read it to me slowly - very slowly 🤭

McD
16-08-2024, 07:51 PM
Holey trinity?

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Talking out his holey, that’s for sure

Hibby Gav
16-08-2024, 08:18 PM
Talking out his holey, that’s for sure


:faf:

ekhibee
16-08-2024, 09:01 PM
Not convinced at all that McCowan will sign for Hibs, but will be pleasantly surprised if he does. I've seen him a few times and for the most part he's looked quite good. He'd certainly make our midfield stronger but as usual, he's been a bit over-hyped, probably because Hibs are making bid after bid for him. Would be a good signing though, if it happens.

MelbourneHibees
16-08-2024, 09:02 PM
Vente was in our squad and came on last weekend. His loan deal has been discussed for a couple of weeks.

We aren't discussing loan deals. Completely different scenario. There's no financial risk for either team.

TrinityHFC
16-08-2024, 09:50 PM
We aren't discussing loan deals. Completely different scenario. There's no financial risk for either team.

Loan deals are not just for zero value. In any case being part of match day squads while offers are being made or even negotiated is not really unheard of.

cabbageandribs1875
16-08-2024, 11:22 PM
Bournemouth have completed the signing of Brazilian striker Evanilson from Porto in a club record £40.2m deal.

Evanilson, 24, scored 60 goals in 154 appearances for Porto during his four years in Portugal.
The Cherries will pay an initial fee of £31.7m with the potential for another £8.5m on top, should certain clauses be met, making him their most expensive buy.
Bournemouth chief executive Neill Blake said: "Evanilson is a hugely sought-after striker and for us to bring him to the club in a record-breaking deal shows our ambition and intent.
"Having scored 25 goals last season, including goals in the Champions League, we feel that his experience and ability despite only being 24 will help us to match our ambitions moving forward.

Cat Stanton
16-08-2024, 11:24 PM
I suspect the silence on McCowan bid is to avoid distraction for cup game tomorrow. He couldn’t play for us anyway (cup tied). I think we will see him sign early next week.

Might be. Or it might be that we've moved on/away and aren't saying anything about it. Who knows? No-one.

Callum_62
16-08-2024, 11:31 PM
Might be. Or it might be that we've moved on/away and aren't saying anything about it. Who knows? No-one.Hibs central knows

FACT

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MelbourneHibees
16-08-2024, 11:39 PM
Loan deals are not just for zero value. In any case being part of match day squads while offers are being made or even negotiated is not really unheard of.

Which is not what is being discussed. The poster was talking about a situation where he continues to play after a bid has been accepted.
Twice you've veered the discussion away from what's actually being spoken about. Keep up.

Donegal Hibby
17-08-2024, 12:19 AM
Bournemouth have completed the signing of Brazilian striker Evanilson from Porto in a club record £40.2m deal.

Evanilson, 24, scored 60 goals in 154 appearances for Porto during his four years in Portugal.
The Cherries will pay an initial fee of £31.7m with the potential for another £8.5m on top, should certain clauses be met, making him their most expensive buy.
Bournemouth chief executive Neill Blake said: "Evanilson is a hugely sought-after striker and for us to bring him to the club in a record-breaking deal shows our ambition and intent.
"Having scored 25 goals last season, including goals in the Champions League, we feel that his experience and ability despite only being 24 will help us to match our ambitions moving forward.

Looks like a fantastic signing for Bournemouth ….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STLdq3GJnZ8

Gmack7
17-08-2024, 05:57 AM
Looks like a fantastic signing for Bournemouth ….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STLdq3GJnZ8

Incredible how things have changed, , I though Ryan Fraser had taken a backwards step going there now they are signing players in there prime from Porto

GreenPJ
17-08-2024, 06:09 AM
We aren't discussing loan deals. Completely different scenario. There's no financial risk for either team.

There is a financial risk. Hibs decided to loan or sell Vente because it wasn't working out. That would involve a transfer fee coming in or a release of his wages (full or partial). If he got injured the loan is off and we retain full liability for his wage.

MelbourneHibees
17-08-2024, 06:13 AM
There is a financial risk. Hibs decided to loan or sell Vente because it wasn't working out. That would involve a transfer fee coming in or a release of his wages (full or partial). If he got injured the loan is off and we retain full liability for his wage.
If he gets injured when on loan the deal will end and we will be liable for his full wage and treatment. There is no financial risk.

JimBHibees
17-08-2024, 06:23 AM
Bournemouth have completed the signing of Brazilian striker Evanilson from Porto in a club record £40.2m deal.

Evanilson, 24, scored 60 goals in 154 appearances for Porto during his four years in Portugal.
The Cherries will pay an initial fee of £31.7m with the potential for another £8.5m on top, should certain clauses be met, making him their most expensive buy.
Bournemouth chief executive Neill Blake said: "Evanilson is a hugely sought-after striker and for us to bring him to the club in a record-breaking deal shows our ambition and intent.
"Having scored 25 goals last season, including goals in the Champions League, we feel that his experience and ability despite only being 24 will help us to match our ambitions moving forward.

Will be some culture shock to come from playing at Porto and play at Bournemouths ground

GreenPJ
17-08-2024, 06:29 AM
If he gets injured when on loan the deal will end and we will be liable for his full wage and treatment. There is no financial risk.

That is not what I was saying. He came on for us whilst the loan had not been finalised but the club had been working on a loan/transfer. They took a risk playing him before the loan was complete as we could have ended up keeping him and all of his compensation liability.

MelbourneHibees
17-08-2024, 06:34 AM
That is not what I was saying. He came on for us whilst the loan had not been finalised but the club had been working on a loan/transfer. They took a risk playing him before the loan was complete as we could have ended up keeping him and all of his compensation liability.
There is no real financial risk over and above if he just continued to play at Hibs though. We might be paying a smaller % of his wages now spread over the course of a year. I'll concede that. But it's still not remotely comparable to the potential imminent sale of a player.

Springbank
17-08-2024, 06:36 AM
Always entertainment on a fitba forum.

Enjoyed reading a few guys saying, with admirable self confidence, no-one ever plays for their club after a bid for loan or transfer has been accepted.

Scott Brown & Dylan Vente don't count

I could well be wrong but my money says i would not be surprised if mccowan plays for Dundee this weekend whether he's staying or going

He's their club captain & seems a decent guy who would want to play football, whatever the circumstances

MelbourneHibees
17-08-2024, 06:51 AM
Always entertainment on a fitba forum.

Enjoyed reading a few guys saying, with admirable self confidence, no-one ever plays for their club after a bid for loan or transfer has been accepted.

Scott Brown & Dylan Vente don't count

I could well be wrong but my money says i would not be surprised if mccowan plays for Dundee this weekend whether he's staying or going

You should try and read with a bit more concentration. I've never said noone ever plays. I said the suggestion that McCowan would play after a deal agreed with Hibs is laughable.
Dundee v Airdire a huge game for both teams in relation to their season. It will be a ding dong battle. Hibs v Celtic on the last day of the season when Brown is going to Celtic and theres nothing left to play for is not the same. It also appears to be the only example being offered in nearly 20 years of football.
Someone else brought up the loan deal with Vente. I don't see loan players being comparable to the sale of a player. And I certainly never said a potential loan player would stop playing for their club, because I don't believe that to be true. I'm just rehashing old ground now so will leave it at that. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

greenlex
17-08-2024, 07:19 AM
You should try and read with a bit more concentration. I've never said noone ever plays. I said the suggestion that McCowan would play after a deal agreed with Hibs is laughable.
Dundee v Airdire a huge game for both teams in relation to their season. It will be a ding dong battle. Hibs v Celtic on the last day of the season when Brown is going to Celtic and theres nothing left to play for is not the same. It also appears to be the only example being offered in nearly 20 years of football.
Someone else brought up the loan deal with Vente. I don't see loan players being comparable to the sale of a player. And I certainly never said a potential loan player would stop playing for their club, because I don't believe that to be true. I'm just rehashing old ground now so will leave it at that. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Dundee v Airdrie will not be a battle ding dong or otherwise. They both play very good football. I’ll concede it’s a cup tie but I’m sure he will play. He might not play the following week and will come to Hibs after the game.

Ronniekirk
17-08-2024, 07:36 AM
Docherty gave an interview recently stating McCowan would be going nowhere before the hibs game and at that point Dundee hadn’t accepted any bid
So wouldn’t surprise me if he Played against hibs He is there Captain after all and he wants to go seven points clear of us so you play your best players
In the meantime Dee will use our third bid to try and tempt other suitors to outbid us would think

Nicho87
17-08-2024, 07:43 AM
I don’t really understand why any emphasis is on us playing them next in the league

If it’s an issue surely Dundee say just give us a gentlemen’s agreement he doesn’t make his debut against us

End of the day we play each other up to 4 times in the league a season, potentially more in cup competitions

I do wonder why the press were all over rejected bids, the last article I recall seeing was sky saying a third bid has went in.

Do we think there’s a bit light at the end of the tunnel with the sudden silence

Heisenberg
17-08-2024, 07:50 AM
Docherty gave an interview recently stating McCowan would be going nowhere before the hibs game and at that point Dundee hadn’t accepted any bid
So wouldn’t surprise me if he Played against hibs He is there Captain after all and he wants to go seven points clear of us so you play your best players
In the meantime Dee will use our third bid to try and tempt other suitors to outbid us would think

I don’t think I’ve seen Docherty saying anything like that?

I’d expected to see that the bid of 750k was rejected but seems it’s been reported differently between the Sun and Sky/STV.

HIBERNIAN-0762
17-08-2024, 08:32 AM
I don’t think I’ve seen Docherty saying anything like that?

I’d expected to see that the bid of 750k was rejected but seems it’s been reported differently between the Sun and Sky/STV.

The red tops, Sky and STV desperately want him to sign for the smellies 🙄

Heisenberg
17-08-2024, 08:43 AM
The red tops, Sky and STV desperately want him to sign for the smellies 🙄

To be fair I think that’s exactly what McCowan and Dundee want too.

JimBHibees
17-08-2024, 08:54 AM
To be fair I think that’s exactly what McCowan and Dundee want too.

If so Celtic will be trying to get him for 300k and a loan player

McGruber
17-08-2024, 09:01 AM
Hibs should put a deadline on the 3rd offer. Final offer, take it or leave it by our deadline.

Otherwise, what motivation do Dundee have not to just play this out until the end of the window hoping somebody else comes in with a better option. Also, I really want McCowan but if not him then a player in that mould - don't want this playing out until the 11th hour and not leaving time to persue an alternative.

killie-hibby
17-08-2024, 09:10 AM
Looked up Dundee fans site last night.Several posters indicate he will remain at Dundee or sign for Celtic while stating Hibs bid is not serious.
More than likely they know no more regards negotiations than we do

Real Emerald
17-08-2024, 09:11 AM
Hibs should put a deadline on the 3rd offer. Final offer, take it or leave it by our deadline.

Otherwise, what motivation do Dundee have not to just play this out until the end of the window hoping somebody else comes in with a better option. Also, I really want McCowan but if not him then a player in that mould - don't want this playing out until the 11th hour and not leaving time to persue an alternative.

The trouble is they would rather keep him and won’t let him go until their valuation has been met. If Hibs or any other club don’t meet it they’ll be happy to keep him. They’ve not put him up for sale, we’re trying to buy.

flash
17-08-2024, 09:19 AM
The trouble is they would rather keep him and won’t let him go until their valuation has been met. If Hibs or any other club don’t meet it they’ll be happy to keep him. They’ve not put him up for sale, we’re trying to buy.

They expect to sell him this window if he doesn't sign a new deal.

GreenPJ
17-08-2024, 09:23 AM
The trouble is they would rather keep him and won’t let him go until their valuation has been met. If Hibs or any other club don’t meet it they’ll be happy to keep him. They’ve not put him up for sale, we’re trying to buy.

Agree that Dundee weren't actively looking to sell him but they do have a quandry of passing up 750K-1M or keeping him for another year. He could get crocked next week and miss a signficant portion of the season with injury and then walks away on a free. I suspect that if Hibs offer is 750K pretty much cash now then Dundee will accept or it will prompt Celtic to come in, offer a little more and he will go there instead. Either way I think he will be away as its a lot of money for the Dundee board to take a punt on passing up.

Ozyhibby
17-08-2024, 09:23 AM
Looked up Dundee fans site last night.Several posters indicate he will remain at Dundee or sign for Celtic while stating Hibs bid is not serious.
More than likely they know no more regards negotiations than we do

He won’t remain at Dundee.


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Alfred E Newman
17-08-2024, 09:25 AM
Docherty gave an interview recently stating McCowan would be going nowhere before the hibs game and at that point Dundee hadn’t accepted any bid
So wouldn’t surprise me if he Played against hibs He is there Captain after all and he wants to go seven points clear of us so you play your best players
In the meantime Dee will use our third bid to try and tempt other suitors to outbid us would think

If they do go 7 points clear the reaction of the Hibs support might be enough to put McCowan off the idea altogether.

Real Emerald
17-08-2024, 09:25 AM
They expect to sell him this window if he doesn't sign a new deal.

They expect their valuation will be met and will sell him. If their valuation isn’t met they’ll be happy to keep him as he could be worth the asking price alone as part of the Dundee team. League placing, cup progression, European qualification, fan satisfaction etc. You can’t blame them holding out for what they see as a fair price, we’d be the same.

Callum_62
17-08-2024, 09:30 AM
Looked up Dundee fans site last night.Several posters indicate he will remain at Dundee or sign for Celtic while stating Hibs bid is not serious.
More than likely they know no more regards negotiations than we doOf course the hibs bid is serious

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Nicho87
17-08-2024, 09:34 AM
Looked up Dundee fans site last night.Several posters indicate he will remain at Dundee or sign for Celtic while stating Hibs bid is not serious.
More than likely they know no more regards negotiations than we do

Sounds like more a comfort blanket that a team outwith the old firm could possibly accept another club might be bigger than the
.

Delusional comes to mind

NORTHERNHIBBY
17-08-2024, 09:39 AM
Of course the hibs bid is serious

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It's the other way around. The Celtc bid isn't serious and is only talked about to try to bump up the money. Old Firm interest in players sells papers and doesn't need to be true.

Smartie
17-08-2024, 09:39 AM
Agree that Dundee weren't actively looking to sell him but they do have a quandry of passing up 750K-1M or keeping him for another year. He could get crocked next week and miss a signficant portion of the season with injury and then walks away on a free. I suspect that if Hibs offer is 750K pretty much cash now then Dundee will accept or it will prompt Celtic to come in, offer a little more and he will go there instead. Either way I think he will be away as its a lot of money for the Dundee board to take a punt on passing up.

Whilst it’s not an insignificant amount of cash, it doesn’t drastically change the future of their club either.

What happens with £750k? They try to replace an excellent player for much less money and have a few quid to stick towards weaknesses elsewhere in their team, a new stadium or a new groundsman or whatever. It’s not a life changing sum.

If we were talking £5m - £6m I accept that’s a sum they don’t want walking away for nowt in a year.

Dundee deserve a wee bit more respect than many are giving them. If we scraped in the region of £1m for Melkersen, I think they’re entitled to decide how valuable one of the best midfielders in the league outside of Celtic is worth to them - especially when he’s not exactly pushing for a move or being disruptive.

We’re a basket case in the early stages of getting our act together, not yet in a position to do much bullying, if that’s even something we ever even really want to be doing.

Potty78
17-08-2024, 09:42 AM
The Daily Record transfer page saying they have knocked back 750k🤷

Betty Boop
17-08-2024, 09:50 AM
The Daily Record transfer page saying they have knocked back 750k🤷


They'll want a million

LaMotta
17-08-2024, 09:51 AM
Exactly, not all the time really is it, how long ago was that?


Always entertainment on a fitba forum.

Enjoyed reading a few guys saying, with admirable self confidence, no-one ever plays for their club after a bid for loan or transfer has been accepted.

Scott Brown & Dylan Vente don't count

I could well be wrong but my money says i would not be surprised if mccowan plays for Dundee this weekend whether he's staying or going

He's their club captain & seems a decent guy who would want to play football, whatever the circumstances

Absolutely mad eh?

If people want a more recent example how about one from last week? Adam Idah playing for Norwich with a £9.5m move to Celtic 99% wrapped up.

Joe6-2
17-08-2024, 09:54 AM
Looked up Dundee fans site last night.Several posters indicate he will remain at Dundee or sign for Celtic while stating Hibs bid is not serious.
More than likely they know no more regards negotiations than we do

With statements like that they obviously don’t know more than us

CentreForward
17-08-2024, 10:01 AM
The Daily Record transfer page saying they have knocked back 750k🤷


Just seen that. No more detail just one sentence saying that. Sadly probably time to give up if that’s true.

McGruber
17-08-2024, 10:02 AM
The trouble is they would rather keep him and won’t let him go until their valuation has been met. If Hibs or any other club don’t meet it they’ll be happy to keep him. They’ve not put him up for sale, we’re trying to buy.

I think that's my point though, if they want to keep him that's fine and we move on. If they want £1 million that's also fine and we move on. It's their prerogative how much they value and will sell him for. If £750k is our final offer, put a bit pressure on them with a deadline, take or leave it so we can either get the deal done or move on. Otherwise it will play out until the end of the window and we will likely be caught short.

Real Emerald
17-08-2024, 10:07 AM
I think that's my point though, if they want to keep him that's fine and we move on. If they want £1 million that's also fine and we move on. It's their prerogative how much they value and will sell him for. If £750k is our final offer, put a bit pressure on them with a deadline, take or leave it so we can either get the deal done or move on. Otherwise it will play out until the end of the window and we will likely be caught short.

I agree but is it worth just meeting there valuation for another £250, who knows? We really can’t put another offer in under valuation.

GreenPJ
17-08-2024, 10:09 AM
Whilst it’s not an insignificant amount of cash, it doesn’t drastically change the future of their club either.

What happens with £750k? They try to replace an excellent player for much less money and have a few quid to stick towards weaknesses elsewhere in their team, a new stadium or a new groundsman or whatever. It’s not a life changing sum.

If we were talking £5m - £6m I accept that’s a sum they don’t want walking away for nowt in a year.

Dundee deserve a wee bit more respect than many are giving them. If we scraped in the region of £1m for Melkersen, I think they’re entitled to decide how valuable one of the best midfielders outside of Celtic is worth to them - especially when he’s not exactly pushing for a move or being disruptive.

We’re a basket case in the early stages of getting our act together, not yet in a position to do much bullying, if that’s even something we ever even really want to be doing.

Who is suggesting bullying? Not sure why you talk about multiple millions, if he was worth that then clubs would be bidding that but they aren't. McCowan could help Dundee get one or two higher league position and a cup semi or even a final. That could be worth 750k-1m to them but at the same time they might not get an increase in league position or a cup semi and he gets injured. It's a risk/reward trade off but think the 750k-1m is a reasonable offer.

Greenworld
17-08-2024, 10:10 AM
The Daily Record transfer page saying they have knocked back 750k[emoji1745]Look if Hibs have bid 750k then that is a very very good and fair bid in Scottish football.
There is a lot of unknowns , but no one else has been reported as bidding so you don't get into a bidding war with yourself.
I think the time to walk away is coming if no progress can be made by Monday.


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7Hero
17-08-2024, 10:13 AM
Who is suggesting bullying? It's a risk/reward trade off but think the 750k-1m is a reasonable offer.

It certainly isn't if you compare it to Melkerson ...

CentreForward
17-08-2024, 10:26 AM
Pretty sure a couple of weeks ago the figure being mentioned for him was around 5 to 600k max, so not sure where the £1m has suddenly come from.

CentreForward
17-08-2024, 10:29 AM
It certainly isn't if you compare it to Melkerson ...

Melkerson was a very odd one as don’t think any of us valued him anywhere near that. Think he cost us about 300k and most were saying we would be lucky to get that amount back for him so the price we got was incredible considering he did virtually nothing good for us. Ok, Fir Park :wink:

CropleyWasGod
17-08-2024, 10:31 AM
Melkerson was a very odd one as don’t think any of us valued him anywhere near that. Think he cost us about 300k and most were saying we would be lucky to get that amount back for him so the price we got was incredible considering he did virtually nothing good for us. Ok, Fir Park :wink:

Well played, Ian Gordon.











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Cabbage-Patch
17-08-2024, 10:35 AM
Look if Hibs have bid 750k then that is a very very good and fair bid in Scottish football.
There is a lot of unknowns , but no one else has been reported as bidding so you don't get into a bidding war with yourself.
I think the time to walk away is coming if no progress can be made by Monday.


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Serious Question if Hibs were pay 750k for McCowan surely that matches our record signing but has anyone outside the old firm paid more than that for a transfer? I think Hearts may have spent a million on someone in the Romanov era but could be wrong

LaMotta
17-08-2024, 10:41 AM
Serious Question if Hibs were pay 750k for McCowan surely that matches our record signing but has anyone outside the old firm paid more than that for a transfer? I think Hearts may have spent a million on someone in the Romanov era but could be wrong

Aberdeen paid a million for Paul Bernard in the early 90s!

blackpoolhibs
17-08-2024, 10:43 AM
He's been a player we've scouted for a long time, last season we were watching him most weeks.

The club have wanted him, whether that was Gordon, Montgomery, McKay or Gray, we've wanted him and he has been our number 1 target.

Dundee know this, but there must come a time when we know the limit to what we will pay, and we must then make a decision soon whether we pay what they want or walk away.

I'd imagine we have others on our radar, and it's coming to the stage where we need to make a decision.

Just_Jimmy
17-08-2024, 10:45 AM
Serious Question if Hibs were pay 750k for McCowan surely that matches our record signing but has anyone outside the old firm paid more than that for a transfer? I think Hearts may have spent a million on someone in the Romanov era but could be wrongMaybe, they didn't pay the fee though.

Imagine someone trying to sign our best player and captain for £750k and expecting us to be happy with that.



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blackpoolhibs
17-08-2024, 10:49 AM
Maybe, they didn't pay the fee though.

Imagine someone trying to sign our best player and captain for £750k and expecting us to be happy with that.



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Please let that happen. :pray::pray::pray:

GreenPJ
17-08-2024, 10:57 AM
It certainly isn't if you compare it to Melkerson ...

Melkerson is 6 or 7 years younger. I am surprised what we got for him but the market always determines what someone is worth. For me how McBurnie was ever a 20m player is beyond me but that is what someone paid for him.

McD
17-08-2024, 11:03 AM
Maybe, they didn't pay the fee though.

Imagine someone trying to sign our best player and captain for £750k and expecting us to be happy with that.



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No one is expecting them to be happy about it, just as we weren’t happy that SJM went for a relatively low fee. But, he has a year left on his contract, which he doesn’t appear interested in extending. They need to make a choice between a decent sum of money that sees him go, or keeping him, where they could finish high, good cup runs, or they could see him injured and/or have a poor season and see him leave for nothing. They need to make that risk assessment and act accordingly to what they feel is the right path.


I don’t blame them at all for trying to maximise the outcome of the situation, I would expect Hibs to do the same. I think 750k is more than fair for a player in his mid 20s who has never played at a higher level. If Dundee don’t accept that, fair enough, no hassles. But we should then move on to other options, such as Allan Campbell or possibly others. If Dundee want to come back to us later in the window and we have less funds, we can offer them what we choose at that time, if they don’t, fair enough as well.


MM, BK, IG or anyone else involved from our side have a duty of care to our club, they’ve made their offers. If they’re not accepted, move on and look to seek an alternative. 750k is a large sum of money for us, Aberdeen paid less for Clark’s on from Liverpool, there are other players out there who would do a good job for us beyond McCowan.

McD
17-08-2024, 11:04 AM
Please let that happen. :pray::pray::pray:



Could we offer Dundee a straight swap? :wink::pray:

HUTCHYHIBBY
17-08-2024, 11:07 AM
Could we offer Dundee a straight swap? :wink::pray:

They'd be looking for £1.25m if Newell was included in the deal.

McD
17-08-2024, 11:08 AM
They'd be looking for £1.25m if Newell was included in the deal.



Was hoping/expecting someone to say that :greengrin

GloryGlory
17-08-2024, 11:09 AM
They'd be looking for £1.25m if Newell was included in the deal.

Only £1.25m? Bargain! :greengrin

flash
17-08-2024, 11:15 AM
Jeez the anti Newell stuff is so relentless and tedious.

I get he divides opinion but that doesn't excuse the level of abuse he gets on here considering he has been one of our better players the last season or two.

hibsbollah
17-08-2024, 11:19 AM
Always entertainment on a fitba forum.

Enjoyed reading a few guys saying, with admirable self confidence, no-one ever plays for their club after a bid for loan or transfer has been accepted.

Scott Brown & Dylan Vente don't count

I could well be wrong but my money says i would not be surprised if mccowan plays for Dundee this weekend whether he's staying or going

He's their club captain & seems a decent guy who would want to play football, whatever the circumstances

To be fair to the poster, i think resting the player already sold to another club happens more often that not. But not everytime. I suppose different coaches/ DOF will have different instructions.

hibsbollah
17-08-2024, 11:20 AM
Jeez the anti Newell stuff is so relentless and tedious.

I get he divides opinion but that doesn't excuse the level of abuse he gets on here considering he has been one of our better players the last season or two.

Agree.

7Hero
17-08-2024, 11:21 AM
Jeez the anti Newell stuff is so relentless and tedious.

I get he divides opinion but that doesn't excuse the level of abuse he gets on here considering he has been one of our better players the last season or two.

The last few posts are hardly abusive ...

CallumLaidlaw
17-08-2024, 11:21 AM
Jeez the anti Newell stuff is so relentless and tedious.

I get he divides opinion but that doesn't excuse the level of abuse he gets on here considering he has been one of our better players the last season or two.

Yep utterly mental. Meanwhile we’ve got Youan reacting to fans giving him personal abuse on instagram and Rocky’s brother defending him on Twitter and showing frustration at the abuse he receives. It really isn’t a good look.


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Hiber-nation
17-08-2024, 11:21 AM
Jeez the anti Newell stuff is so relentless and tedious.

I get he divides opinion but that doesn't excuse the level of abuse he gets on here considering he has been one of our better players the last season or two.

Agree, folk resorting to extremes to try to get their point across. Everything's got to be brilliant or terrible. Really tiresome.

andrew70
17-08-2024, 11:23 AM
Jeez the anti Newell stuff is so relentless and tedious.

I get he divides opinion but that doesn't excuse the level of abuse he gets on here considering he has been one of our better players the last season or two.

Newell has, inexplicably, avoided “abuse” for years now.

I don’t think he’s being abused just more and more people are finally seeing him for what he is. A very poor player.

Brutal player in a few brutal squads for years now but he’s avoided criticism.

Finally the support are letting him know his best is not good enough.

CallumLaidlaw
17-08-2024, 11:24 AM
Newell has, inexplicably, avoided “abuse” for years now.

I don’t think he’s being abused just more and more people are finally seeing him for what he is. A very poor player.

Brutal player in a few brutal squads for years now but he’s avoided criticism.

Finally the support are letting him know his best is not good enough.

Except he’s far from a “very poor player”.


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hibsbollah
17-08-2024, 11:24 AM
Newell has, inexplicably, avoided “abuse” for years now.

I don’t think he’s being abused just more and more people are finally seeing him for what he is. A very poor player.

Brutal player in a few brutal squads for years now but he’s avoided criticism.

Finally the support are letting him know his best is not good enough.

Oh, well done ‘the support’ :rolleyes:

Ironic.

Hiber-nation
17-08-2024, 11:25 AM
Newell has, inexplicably, avoided “abuse” for years now.

I don’t think he’s being abused just more and more people are finally seeing him for what he is. A very poor player.

Brutal player in a few brutal squads for years now but he’s avoided criticism.

Finally the support are letting him know his best is not good enough.

Do you realise what you are posting here?

Onceinawhile
17-08-2024, 11:30 AM
Harbottle not made the squad for Wimbledon, assume it's too soon for him.

andrew70
17-08-2024, 11:30 AM
Do you realise what you are posting here?

Yes I do. 👍🏻

Paul1642
17-08-2024, 11:31 AM
Maybe, they didn't pay the fee though.

Imagine someone trying to sign our best player and captain for £750k and expecting us to be happy with that.



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I don’t think anyone is saying they should be happy with it but rather suggesting that it’s potentially in their best interest to accept due to his 1 year contract, just like we done with Porteous in similar circumstances.

Dundee have only made more than £700k from a player sale once in the last 20 years, for Jack Hendry and he was under a longer contract as far as I’m aware. For a club that recently posted a £2.9 million loss it seems a big risk to let him leave for free in one year rather than taking the money.

I don’t in any way grudge Dundee the right to do this but if there’s not another club in the running to bid higher, I think they might regret the decision.

LaMotta
17-08-2024, 11:32 AM
To be fair to the poster, i think resting the player already sold to another club happens more often that not. But not everytime. I suppose different coaches/ DOF will have different instructions.

No need to be fair to them - the poster said its a laughable suggestion that it would ever happen - it has been pointed to out them they are wrong, yet they continue to double down on their put down. It literally happened last week with Adam Idah.

Bridge hibs
17-08-2024, 11:37 AM
Newell has, inexplicably, avoided “abuse” for years now.

I don’t think he’s being abused just more and more people are finally seeing him for what he is. A very poor player.

Brutal player in a few brutal squads for years now but he’s avoided criticism.

Finally the support are letting him know his best is not good enough.

Brutal player 🤣 Im no a big Newell fan but thats just absolute tripe !!

andrew70
17-08-2024, 11:39 AM
Brutal player 🤣 Im no a big Newell fan but thats just absolute tripe !!

What does he do that makes him any better than that though. He can’t pass (certainly not forward), he can’t tackle and fails to track runners. All pretty imperative things in the position he’s playing.

He’s let us down on so many occasions for all of the above.

Teams love playing against him as shown by results. Powderpuff.

marinello59
17-08-2024, 11:40 AM
Newell has, inexplicably, avoided “abuse” for years now.

I don’t think he’s being abused just more and more people are finally seeing him for what he is. A very poor player.

Brutal player in a few brutal squads for years now but he’s avoided criticism.

Finally the support are letting him know his best is not good enough.

That's a shocker.

Bridge hibs
17-08-2024, 11:45 AM
What does he do that makes him any better than that though. He can’t pass (certainly not forward), he can’t tackle and fails to track runners. All pretty imperative things in the position he’s playing.

He’s let us down on so many occasions for all of the above.

Teams love playing against him as shown by results. Powderpuff.He is anything but brutal ffs

Paulie Walnuts
17-08-2024, 11:46 AM
What does he do that makes him any better than that though. He can’t pass (certainly not forward), he can’t tackle and fails to track runners. All pretty imperative things in the position he’s playing.

He’s let us down on so many occasions for all of the above.

Teams love playing against him as shown by results. Powderpuff.

I’m not particularly a Newell fan but this is absolute nonsense imo.

DIXIHIBS
17-08-2024, 11:48 AM
Newell has, inexplicably, avoided “abuse” for years now.

I don’t think he’s being abused just more and more people are finally seeing him for what he is. A very poor player.

Brutal player in a few brutal squads for years now but he’s avoided criticism.

Finally the support are letting him know his best is not good enough.

Worst post on here for a while...and there's been a few shockers.

Viva_Palmeiras
17-08-2024, 11:49 AM
That's a shocker.

Says more about the poster than Newell.

SaulGoodman
17-08-2024, 11:52 AM
Oh my god, stop talking about Joe Newell in the ****ing transfer thread.

Every time I come on here I see 4 new pages and go “oh that’ll be good reading” and it’s just the same handful of posters constantly arguing about Joe Newell.

Shut the **** up or take it to the thread specifically designed to talk about him.

Donegal Hibby
17-08-2024, 11:57 AM
Is there any word on Youan’s injury? It would be good if he stays though if he’s leaving it would be best if it happens soon rather than later.

NC1875
17-08-2024, 11:59 AM
Is there any word on Youan’s injury? It would be good if he stays though if he’s leaving it would be best if it happens soon rather than later.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s actually fit and we don’t want to risk him as we’re negotiating with a club over a sale.

I’m not sure Youan actually wants to be here anyway. I’d rather we got him sold asap and could put the money to use elsewhere.

TrinityHFC
17-08-2024, 12:00 PM
Which is not what is being discussed. The poster was talking about a situation where he continues to play after a bid has been accepted.
Twice you've veered the discussion away from what's actually being spoken about. Keep up.

You don’t really know when it has been agreed though. Szmodics for example came on and scored for Blackburn last week and it was already widely known it was his last game and where he was going. They played him anyway.

Hiber-nation
17-08-2024, 12:09 PM
Yes I do. 👍🏻

Well I'd consider that calling him "brutal" is pretty abusive. Shame that you don't.

Donegal Hibby
17-08-2024, 12:11 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s actually fit and we don’t want to risk him as we’re negotiating with a club over a sale.

I’m not sure Youan actually wants to be here anyway. I’d rather we got him sold asap and could put the money to use elsewhere.

Very good player that won’t be easy to replace imo though I’d rather not see it not drag out till near the end of the window , with us then scrambling to get a replacement or other players.

LaMotta
17-08-2024, 12:13 PM
You don’t really know when it has been agreed though. Szmodics for example came on and scored for Blackburn last week and it was already widely known it was his last game and where he was going. They played him anyway.

There is no point in offering up real life examples to him - he has made his mind up its a laughable suggestion and there is nothing that will seem to change that. :dizzy:

EGL2000
17-08-2024, 12:20 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s actually fit and we don’t want to risk him as we’re negotiating with a club over a sale.

I’m not sure Youan actually wants to be here anyway. I’d rather we got him sold asap and could put the money to use elsewhere.

He's definitely not fit yet. People seen him out in Edinburgh last week and he was still walking with a limp. I'd imagine another couple weeks.

LaMotta
17-08-2024, 12:35 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s actually fit and we don’t want to risk him as we’re negotiating with a club over a sale.

I’m not sure Youan actually wants to be here anyway. I’d rather we got him sold asap and could put the money to use elsewhere.

If Youan was fit he'd have been in our matchday squads.

MWHIBBIES
17-08-2024, 12:37 PM
Jeez the anti Newell stuff is so relentless and tedious.

I get he divides opinion but that doesn't excuse the level of abuse he gets on here considering he has been one of our better players the last season or two.

Yeah. Moronic stuff imo.

Cabbage-Patch
17-08-2024, 12:42 PM
What does he do that makes him any better than that though. He can’t pass (certainly not forward), he can’t tackle and fails to track runners. All pretty imperative things in the position he’s playing.

He’s let us down on so many occasions for all of the above.

Teams love playing against him as shown by results. Powderpuff.

Hard to disagree, He's a very average player. Think about all the captains we have had in our history. Newell goes straight in at bottom and worst for me. He's not a leader which is shown by his performances on the pitch.

Guaranteed He's 1st name on the teamsheet tomorrow though.For the folk who are saying he has been one of our better players last few years then shows you how low the bar has been set IMO

pepe
17-08-2024, 12:45 PM
What does he do that makes him any better than that though. He can’t pass (certainly not forward), he can’t tackle and fails to track runners. All pretty imperative things in the position he’s playing.

He’s let us down on so many occasions for all of the above.

Teams love playing against him as shown by results. Powderpuff.

Joe Newell is our best midfielder.

jakeshibs
17-08-2024, 12:48 PM
Yep utterly mental. Meanwhile we’ve got Youan reacting to fans giving him personal abuse on instagram and Rocky’s brother defending him on Twitter and showing frustration at the abuse he receives. It really isn’t a good look.


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We seem to have a large proportion of our fan base that take great pleasure in slating our own players, absolutely shocking at times and the players no doubt read it. therefore they know that supporters don't value them, this affects their performance and confidence, we should be behind them all as supporters.

andrew70
17-08-2024, 12:51 PM
Joe Newell is our best midfielder.

That’s why it’s always completely overrun.

Vault Boy
17-08-2024, 12:54 PM
People who don’t rate Joe Newel REALLY really want you to know about it. Bit weird.

Cabbage-Patch
17-08-2024, 12:59 PM
We seem to have a large proportion of our fan base that take great pleasure in slating our own players, absolutely shocking at times and the players no doubt read it. therefore they know that supporters don't value them, this affects their performance and confidence, we should be behind them all as supporters.

Personal abuse aimed at players directly is not on. Whether at games or over socials I do not condone that in any way. I think as fans we are entitled to air our opinions on a fans forums however? If the players are cruising these feeds then that's thier choice.

Houston7
17-08-2024, 01:02 PM
The last few posts are hardly abusive ...

To suggest we need to pay a club to take one of our important players is not abusive? Come on! Is this supposed to be humour? What a strange world we now live in!

Donegal Hibby
17-08-2024, 01:04 PM
Big game tomorrow that’s going to be hard enough without this ….

Time to back Joe and the team :flag:

1875Sean
17-08-2024, 01:04 PM
Newell has, inexplicably, avoided “abuse” for years now.

I don’t think he’s being abused just more and more people are finally seeing him for what he is. A very poor player.

Brutal player in a few brutal squads for years now but he’s avoided criticism.

Finally the support are letting him know his best is not good enough.

You must your eyes painted on, people have been criticising him on here for years, including the season he got our player of the year

ErinGoBraghHFC
17-08-2024, 01:05 PM
McCowan starts for Dundee


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Halifaxhibby
17-08-2024, 01:05 PM
Well I'd consider that calling him "brutal" is pretty abusive. Shame that you don't.

Abusive? The guy is murder…..it’s abusive him picking up thousands a week to continually under perform. Wish the rest of us could turn up at work and pick up a full wage for doing next to nothing.

GreenCastle
17-08-2024, 01:06 PM
McCowan starts for Dundee


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Though not captain…

Cabbage-Patch
17-08-2024, 01:09 PM
Though not captain…

He's going to Celtic for the sake of an extra 250k and higher wages to probably sit on thier bench most weeks. Money obviously talks. Time to move on.

TrinityHFC
17-08-2024, 01:11 PM
He's going to Celtic for the sake of an extra 250k and higher wages to probably sit on thier bench most weeks. Money obviously talks. Time to move on.

What’s the source for this?

Cabbage-Patch
17-08-2024, 01:11 PM
Jebbison on the bench for Bournemouth. Don't think he will be coming either

Since452
17-08-2024, 01:11 PM
He's going to Celtic for the sake of an extra 250k and higher wages to probably sit on thier bench most weeks. Money obviously talks. Time to move on.

Interesting development

Cabbage-Patch
17-08-2024, 01:12 PM
What’s the source for this?

Our bid of 750k was our final bid which was rejected so that's it. Only other team in for him is Celtic. He will be back up for thier midfield to allow rotation for CL games

SteveHFC
17-08-2024, 01:14 PM
Interesting development

It is when others say celtic not even interested

CapitalGreen
17-08-2024, 01:15 PM
Our bid of 750k was our final bid which was rejected so that's it. Only other team in for him is Celtic. He will be back up for thier midfield to allow rotation for CL games

It hasn’t been rejected.

JohnM1875
17-08-2024, 01:15 PM
Jebbison on the bench for Bournemouth. Don't think he will be coming either

Marcondes was on the bench against Liverpool before signing on loan! But totally agree about Jebbison, no chance he’ll end up here.

TrinityHFC
17-08-2024, 01:18 PM
Our bid of 750k was our final bid which was rejected so that's it. Only other team in for him is Celtic. He will be back up for thier midfield to allow rotation for CL games

I asked about a source. This seems to be more of your own view of the situation.

JohnM1875
17-08-2024, 01:19 PM
Our bid of 750k was our final bid which was rejected so that's it. Only other team in for him is Celtic. He will be back up for thier midfield to allow rotation for CL games

Celtic aren't in for him and haven't made a bid

Cabbage-Patch
17-08-2024, 01:20 PM
It hasn’t been rejected.

I have a pal who is a freelance football journalist for one of the tabloids. According to him the 750k bid has been rejected by Dundee. They want 1 to 1.5 million. We are never paying that and rightly so. Deals finished. Celtic are interested and prepared to pay a million (no bid yet however but likely will be start of next week) so really boils down to Dundees resolve. Be mad to turn that down when he can leave for nothing end of the season.

we are hibs
17-08-2024, 01:20 PM
Our bid of 750k was our final bid which was rejected so that's it. Only other team in for him is Celtic. He will be back up for thier midfield to allow rotation for CL gamesThe Sun are the only ones who said it had been rejected. You'd think if that was true the likes of Hibs observer, evening news, BBC and STV would've also reported it. Infact STV said the other day, after the sun had reported it, that Dundee hadn't yet responded to the bid.

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DarlingtonHibee
17-08-2024, 01:22 PM
He's going to Celtic for the sake of an extra 250k and higher wages to probably sit on thier bench most weeks. Money obviously talks. Time to move on.

If Celtic want him,they can double our offer on wages, Yes,money talks...

aberhibsfc
17-08-2024, 01:24 PM
I thought McCowan was only temporary captain while their club captain was out injured. Perhaps he has returned to the team?

MWHIBBIES
17-08-2024, 01:24 PM
That’s why it’s always completely overrun.

It is not always completely overrun. Nonsense exaggeration.

hibee-boys
17-08-2024, 01:25 PM
Wouldn’t blame the lad for taking the easy option, more money at Celtic, probably last chance for a big contract given his age. He’ll obviously then be called up to Scotland squad after coming on as a sub in his first game for them🙄

TrinityHFC
17-08-2024, 01:25 PM
I have a pal who is a freelance football journalist for one of the tabloids. According to him the 750k bid has been rejected by Dundee. They want 1 to 1.5 million. We are never paying that and rightly so. Deals finished. Celtic are interested and prepared to pay a million (no bid yet however but likely will be start of next week) so really boils down to Dundees resolve. Be mad to turn that down when he can leave for nothing end of the season.

Assume they’ve put this to print somewhere that we can see?

Would be a weird way to pay your mortgage by giving your mates details of transfers rather than someone who’d pay for it.

JohnM1875
17-08-2024, 01:26 PM
I thought McCowan was only temporary captain while their club captain was out injured. Perhaps he has returned to the team?

Shaughnessy is captain and is still out injured.

Carson and McCowan both played against Inverness earlier in pre-season. McCowan was captain…

hibeerealist
17-08-2024, 01:27 PM
Though not captain…


Interesting, wonder why he is not captain today?

Wonder if this is his last game before he dons the Green & White.

Cabbage-Patch
17-08-2024, 01:27 PM
Want 1 to 1.5 million. Which one is it?

Neither...they want offers in that region as that what they value him at. Million plus add ons would likely meet thier valuation

GordonHFC
17-08-2024, 01:31 PM
I have a pal who is a freelance football journalist for one of the tabloids. According to him the 750k bid has been rejected by Dundee. They want 1 to 1.5 million. We are never paying that and rightly so. Deals finished. Celtic are interested and prepared to pay a million (no bid yet however but likely will be start of next week) so really boils down to Dundees resolve. Be mad to turn that down when he can leave for nothing end of the season.

Which one is it? 1 or 1.5 million. A club would never come out and say that as they would never get more than 1 million.

hibee-boys
17-08-2024, 01:31 PM
Shaughnessy is captain and is still out injured.

Carson and McCowan both played against Inverness earlier in pre-season. McCowan was captain…

If that’s the case perhaps he’s informed him that he’ll not be signing a new contract and wants to leave this window. They’d not be short sighted enough to drop him given the potential financial loss should they not go through.

JohnM1875
17-08-2024, 01:33 PM
Interesting, wonder why he is not captain today?

Wonder if this is his last game before he dons the Green & White.

Hibs medical on Monday is all that I'm taking from it. Based on absolutely nothing other than its weird he's not captain.

Real Emerald
17-08-2024, 01:36 PM
I have a pal who is a freelance football journalist for one of the tabloids. According to him the 750k bid has been rejected by Dundee. They want 1 to 1.5 million. We are never paying that and rightly so. Deals finished. Celtic are interested and prepared to pay a million (no bid yet however but likely will be start of next week) so really boils down to Dundees resolve. Be mad to turn that down when he can leave for nothing end of the season.

So that’s implying that Hibs have 3 bids rejected with the final bid being only half of what their valuation is. It’s either a load of rubbish or Hibs attempt to buy him is laughable. Seems a crazy scenario TBH.

Heisenberg
17-08-2024, 01:37 PM
Our bid of 750k was our final bid which was rejected so that's it. Only other team in for him is Celtic. He will be back up for thier midfield to allow rotation for CL games

I’d be amazed if he ended up at Celtc. Why have they spent all summer “monitoring the situation” instead of just paying the £1m and getting him in straight away?

Lago
17-08-2024, 01:38 PM
Will be some culture shock to come from playing at Porto and play at Bournemouths ground
But think of his excitement at playing at Spurs, Arsenal, Man City /Utd or Liverpool etc.

Lago
17-08-2024, 01:41 PM
The red tops, Sky and STV desperately want him to sign for the smellies 🙄
And he will give the choice.

hibee-boys
17-08-2024, 01:41 PM
If McCowan throws his shirt in the crowd at the end after a lap of honour we know the deal is getting done😂

CapitalGreen
17-08-2024, 01:42 PM
Hibs medical on Monday is all that I'm taking from it. Based on absolutely nothing other than its weird he's not captain.

A week on Monday maybe, there won’t be any movement the week before we play Dundee.

CapitalGreen
17-08-2024, 01:43 PM
I have a pal who is a freelance football journalist for one of the tabloids. According to him the 750k bid has been rejected by Dundee. They want 1 to 1.5 million. We are never paying that and rightly so. Deals finished. Celtic are interested and prepared to pay a million (no bid yet however but likely will be start of next week) so really boils down to Dundees resolve. Be mad to turn that down when he can leave for nothing end of the season.

If Dundee have rejected £750k they haven’t told Hibs.

Hibiza
17-08-2024, 01:46 PM
Joe Newell is our best midfielder.

No disrespect Pepe but it says it all.

Allant1981
17-08-2024, 01:50 PM
Abusive? The guy is murder…..it’s abusive him picking up thousands a week to continually under perform. Wish the rest of us could turn up at work and pick up a full wage for doing next to nothing.

Nonsense

JimBHibees
17-08-2024, 01:50 PM
Interesting, wonder why he is not captain today?

Wonder if this is his last game before he dons the Green & White.

Which green and white though? 😄

Hibby Kay-Yay
17-08-2024, 01:53 PM
Which green and white though? 😄

Won’t be Celtic.

tamig
17-08-2024, 01:59 PM
Newell has, inexplicably, avoided “abuse” for years now.

I don’t think he’s being abused just more and more people are finally seeing him for what he is. A very poor player.

Brutal player in a few brutal squads for years now but he’s avoided criticism.

Finally the support are letting him know his best is not good enough.

Very poor player? Come on man. You usually come across as someone who knows a bit about the game. That statement is just lies.

tonyrougier123
17-08-2024, 02:00 PM
Celtic zero bids hibs three. That’s the cold hard facts here,there’s no chance Dundee have rejected 750k in anticipation of a higher bid that might not come. That bid will sit till end of the window unless we tell them it’s off the table and we’ve moved on. IMO we are already over shooting the mark at that price. 11months left on his deal that’s a hefty attempt to sign your top target under the circumstances.

GordonHFC
17-08-2024, 02:02 PM
Not a massive fan of Joe but he plays for Hibs so gets my vote. I'm sure he would be a better player with a better midfield around him.

hibee-boys
17-08-2024, 02:02 PM
If McCowan has confidence in his abilities he’ll come to Hibs, rip it up for 12/18 months and get a move down South where the proper money is. Can’t see playing a bit part at Parkhead giving him that opportunity, would lock in a decent contract for 3 or 4 years but to what effect on his career🤔

tamig
17-08-2024, 02:02 PM
Assume they’ve put this to print somewhere that we can see?

Would be a weird way to pay your mortgage by giving your mates details of transfers rather than someone who’d pay for it.

Exactly. What freelance journo wouldn’t want his scoop out there? A mate on hibs.net is clearly the way to get things out there. Ludicrous stuff.

JohnM1875
17-08-2024, 02:07 PM
If McCowan has confidence in his abilities he’ll come to Hibs, rip it up for 12/18 months and get a move down South where the proper money is. Can’t see playing a bit part at Parkhead giving him that opportunity, would lock in a decent contract for 3 or 4 years but to what effect on his career🤔

27 soon and lets be honest, Celtic could easily pay him £10k a week and offer a three year deal. That would be too tempting to turn down for a Celtic fan.

Plus, if he has confidence then he’ll back himself to get a game at Celtic.

Corstorphine Hibby
17-08-2024, 02:13 PM
Ben Kensell 'liking' a post on LinkedIn from football agent Phil Korklin that begins 'anything worth having, is worth waiting for.....🤔
Post on LinkedIn relates to Bristol City signing Scott Twine from Burnley.