Summer transfer thread 2024/25

[Brightside]

Just after watching this where Docherty says he’s unaware of any bids for McCowan …..

https://news.stv.tv/sport/dundee-manager-tony-docherty-unaware-of-luke-mccowan-bids

Managers never tell the truth

[Is It On....]

If you are both from Fife then it's a certainty you'll have connections!! Most likely related

Ouch 😂

[xyz23jc]

Managers never tell the truth

:agree::thumbsup::wink:

[007]

Hope that's not a dueling banjos reference :greengrin

Dueling Jambos

https://i.ibb.co/XZXC87q/Dueling-Banjos-Scene.jpg (https://ibb.co/ccJrL6j)

[sauzee1989]

I got G O’C vibes 😂

Certainly not from his interview. Bowie can actually talk in English.

[Del Boy]

Think the McCowan deal may take a while yet, maybe right up to deadline day. I do think he will be a Hibs player though.

[21sMay]

Kenneh and harbottle to England , surprise signing for us.

[Juice-Terry]

Kenneh and harbottle to England , surprise signing for us.
Spill!

[Centre Hawf]

Kenneh and harbottle to England , surprise signing for us.

Good. If we can get shot of them it will be a huge boost to getting anything else done quicker. Add Jair, McKirdy, JDH, and Delf to that and we're at least left with players that are currently competing for minutes.

[JohnM1875]

Kenneh and harbottle to England , surprise signing for us.

Good or bad surprise signing?

Good surprise - Allan Campbell
Bad surprise - Dick Campbell

[Donegal Hibby]

Managers never tell the truth

To an extent I agree but to say never I'm not so sure about , i have heard some managers give a very balanced and fair assessment on games . I think managers are like fans at times where they are biased in their opinions and have blinkers on though.

On this one , I do wonder how it benefits Docherty / dundee for him to say he’s unaware of any bids rather than saying there was and giving the indication he’s a player very much in demand which might cause even more clubs to react that want him too .

If he’s leaving anyhow it’s better for them to create as much interest as possible ( wouldn’t suit us ) and to get a deal done early in the window rather than near the end .

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Good or bad surprise signing?

Good surprise - Allan Campbell
Bad surprise - Dick Campbell

🤣🤣👌🏻

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Kenneh and harbottle to England , surprise signing for us.

I’ll guess Liam Cooper

[Donegal Hibby]

I wonder is Ryan Jack signing for St Mirren?…

https://x.com/snsgroup/status/1821619119906508812?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1821619119906508812%7Ctwgr% 5E350712ffcb0d3e2c33b2beb8f2351da9af2e9a81%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedarkblues.co.uk%2Find ex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Demb edurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fsnsgroup%2Fstatus%2F 1821619119906508812%3Ft%3D02UfoE6foHh6bo6v1YKaoQ26 s%3D19

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Jack would live nearby I assume. Probs just taking in the game.

[MelbourneHibees]

Naismith has been told the party line and is desperate to get it to Banderson.

"Finally, Naismith tried to clear up suggestions that Hearts made a late move to sign forward Kieron Bowie from Fulham just as he was finalising a deal at city rivals Hibs. “We get loads of players put to us all the time,” said Naismith. “I've been in the game a long time so I am pretty sure, when we have been signing players, agents and people have been telling us that loads of clubs are interested.

“We identify players we want to sign then we go for them. We were not involved with anything to do with that deal. That's where it is at. With our recruitment, we consistently look at players. There are loads that are put in, we identify the ones we want and anyone we want we will move on. But he wasn't one.”

[JohnM1875]

Naismith has been told the party line and is desperate to get it to Banderson.

"Finally, Naismith tried to clear up suggestions that Hearts made a late move to sign forward Kieron Bowie from Fulham just as he was finalising a deal at city rivals Hibs. “We get loads of players put to us all the time,” said Naismith. “I've been in the game a long time so I am pretty sure, when we have been signing players, agents and people have been telling us that loads of clubs are interested.

“We identify players we want to sign then we go for them. We were not involved with anything to do with that deal. That's where it is at. With our recruitment, we consistently look at players. There are loads that are put in, we identify the ones we want and anyone we want we will move on. But he wasn't one.”

Embarrassing from them. If there wasn’t a late bid then don’t even mention it, nothing to clear up.

Thanks for confirming Bowie chose the Hibees over your lot, Steven. Fud.

[Unseen work]

Kenneh and harbottle to England , surprise signing for us.

Good news

Surprise signing has got to be a centre mid or centre half.

Going for centre half myself

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Good news

Surprise signing has got to be a centre mid or centre half.

Going for centre half myself

Surprise could be anything…another goalie :greengrin

[04Sauzee]

Kenneh and harbottle to England , surprise signing for us.

Before Sunday or next week?

[Walter]

Surprise could be anything…another goalie :greengrin

Hopefully someone that can beat a whippet over 100yards

[MartinfaePorty]

Surprise could be anything…another goalie :greengrin

Back to the John Hughes days!

[ElginHibbie]

Embarrassing from them. If there wasn’t a late bid then don’t even mention it, nothing to clear up.

Thanks for confirming Bowie chose the Hibees over your lot, Steven. Fud.

Their whole reaction is so weird, anytime we have supposedly missed on a player we don't mention it let alone have a meltdown like their fans in the press and on Twitter are.

This sums up their behaviour at the moment

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/C5622AQFLKEDZsb4_rw/feedshare-shrink_800/0/1674604936133?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=xUStvu4UJFspLqVZqnL9ZEAyVEzFnh4lCgWQsb_O7GA

[Iain G]

Hopefully someone that can beat a whippet over 100yards

Ivan Sproule on a motorbike?

[Kato]

Naismith has been told the party line and is desperate to get it to Banderson.

"Finally, Naismith tried to clear up suggestions that Hearts made a late move to sign forward Kieron Bowie from Fulham just as he was finalising a deal at city rivals Hibs. “We get loads of players put to us all the time,” said Naismith. “I've been in the game a long time so I am pretty sure, when we have been signing players, agents and people have been telling us that loads of clubs are interested.

“We identify players we want to sign then we go for them. We were not involved with anything to do with that deal. That's where it is at. With our recruitment, we consistently look at players. There are loads that are put in, we identify the ones we want and anyone we want we will move on. But he wasn't one.”Big club ma jeer. Whining about something they could just saying nothing on.

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[04Sauzee]

Goalkeeper Alex Paulson who signed for Bournemouth from Wellington Phoenix for around an initial £850k has been loaned to Auckland FC which is part of the BK group.

[He's here!]

Embarrassing from them. If there wasn’t a late bid then don’t even mention it, nothing to clear up.

Thanks for confirming Bowie chose the Hibees over your lot, Steven. Fud.

Not seeing much wrong with what he said there. Being honest if Hearts had been seriously interested he'd have gone there, not Hibs. Unless we were offering significantly more money than Hearts for a player who, on paper, still has a lot to prove as a regular goalscorer.

[Unseen work]

Funnily enough I mentioned a centre back yesterday called Ibane Bowat.

Not ITK but was in the same Fulham and Scotland team as Bowie. Left sided centre back.

The Aberdeen owner/chairman tweeted his name earlier - he has previous for this

https://x.com/mitch_2123/status/1821713800703459835?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

Wonder if they’re going for him

[Since452]

Goalkeeper Alex Paulson who signed for Bournemouth from Wellington Phoenix for around an initial £850k has been loaned to Auckland FC which is part of the BK group.

Interesting. Wonder if he was offended to us?

[IanM]

Interesting. Wonder if he was offended to us?

Yes, says he hates the fans

[Since452]

Yes, says he hates the fans

Bloody autocorrect

[SHODAN]

Yes, says he hates the fans

Cancel culture strikes again. :grr:

[at last 61]

way too much transfer stuff on this thread (at last) but how are the whippets getting on? any news on the dwarfs ?

Stop using my name 😂😂

[nonshinyfinish]

Funnily enough I mentioned a centre back yesterday called Ibane Bowat.

Not ITK but was in the same Fulham and Scotland team as Bowie.

His name is an anagram of Banta Bowie, Kieron's hilarious younger brother

[Iain G]

Interesting. Wonder if he was offended to us?

Disappointed if he was and we said no!

[Brooster]

Not seeing much wrong with what he said there. Being honest if Hearts had been seriously interested he'd have gone there, not Hibs. Unless we were offering significantly more money than Hearts for a player who, on paper, still has a lot to prove as a regular goalscorer.


Spoken like a true Jambo.

[Chorley Hibee]

I've no idea if Hearts were interested in Bowie or not, but what's absolutely hilarious is their utter desperation to deny it.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

[Bostonhibby]

I've no idea if Hearts were interested in Bowie or not, but what's absolutely hilarious is their utter desperation to deny it.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."Naisy is still working on the why they never bid for Mbappe statement.

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[ian cruise]

Interesting. Wonder if he was offended to us?

If he goes there I hope David Gray makes sure to mention in the next presser that we get offered lots of players and we weren't interested in him, like a proper big club would 😁

[He's here!]

Spoken like a true Jambo.

I'd just prefer that we were competitive with them on the park again, which would entitle us to some bona fide one-upmanship, rather than milking a supposed signing 'coup'.

[He's here!]

Think the McCowan deal may take a while yet, maybe right up to deadline day. I do think he will be a Hibs player though.

Would the player not be weighing up whether this is the right move for him? Obviously money will be the overriding factor but at present we're not really trumping Dundee as a better team to play for.

[Donegal Hibby]

Naisy is still working on the why they never bid for Mbappe statement.

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Thought they had already him 😳😆….

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/hearts-target-yutaro-oda-nicknamed-25784693

[superfurryhibby]

Would the player not be weighing up whether this is the right move for him? Obviously money will be the overriding factor but at present we're not really trumping Dundee as a better team to play for.

One game into the season and a recent raft of new signings would probably negate McCowan’s concerns over which is the better team to play for. A doubling of wages will assist too.

He’s obviously interested. Hibs won’t be randomly bidding for players without being pretty confident that said player is keen to come?

[Donegal Hibby]

Only after seeing that Bolton wanderers who are supposedly interested in McCowan signed a midfielder yesterday…

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/24505652.bolton-wanderers-sign-jay-matete-loan-sunderland/

[LaMotta]

I've no idea if Hearts were interested in Bowie or not, but what's absolutely hilarious is their utter desperation to deny it.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

:agree: It's so strange how much they need to feel like they must shout to the world about how "big" they are and protect a reputation that nobody outside of EH11 actually cares about. They are like Andrew Tate in his speedos.

[BoltonHibee]

Only after seeing that Bolton wanderers who are supposedly interested in McCowan signed a midfielder yesterday…

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/24505652.bolton-wanderers-sign-jay-matete-loan-sunderland/

I think their interest in McCowan and Armstrong has cooled, they also signed a Hungarian midfielder earlier in the week


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[Centre Hawf]

One game into the season and a recent raft of new signings would probably negate McCowan’s concerns over which is the better team to play for. A doubling of wages will assist too.

He’s obviously interested. Hibs won’t be randomly bidding for players without being pretty confident that said player is keen to come?

He must be up for the move and will likely have signalled what wage he wants and we're convinced we can do that.

There is not a chance someone from the club hasn't spoken to his agent and asked the question on if he wants to come and got a positive answer. Even we're not daft enough to blindly bid only to get to the negotiation table and he asks "Why would I ever play for you?"

[Kato]

Not seeing much wrong with what he said there. Being honest if Hearts had been seriously interested he'd have gone there, not Hibs. Unless we were offering significantly more money than Hearts for a player who, on paper, still has a lot to prove as a regular goalscorer.They are obsessed. Any manager from any other club wouldn't have even mentioned it.

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[He's here!]

One game into the season and a recent raft of new signings would probably negate McCowan’s concerns over which is the better team to play for. A doubling of wages will assist too.

He’s obviously interested. Hibs won’t be randomly bidding for players without being pretty confident that said player is keen to come?

Yep, I get all that but based on recent seasons a raft of signings is no guarantee we'll be a good team. I remain understandably sceptical that the club is structured correctly for on-field success.

One thing we will likely need is yet more patience and I imagine we'll have a couple of chastening defeats to swallow from Celtic before we can hope to make headway.

[Donegal Hibby]

Not seeing much wrong with what he said there. Being honest if Hearts had been seriously interested he'd have gone there, not Hibs. Unless we were offering significantly more money than Hearts for a player who, on paper, still has a lot to prove as a regular goalscorer.

Wasn’t there a rumour that they tried a late bid to get Nisbet too ? .

[He's here!]

They are obsessed. Any manager from any other club wouldn't have even mentioned it.

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I thought he was responding to being asked directly about it by a journalist? If he's issued that statement off his own back then yes, what a kn*b.

[04Sauzee]

Wasn’t there a rumour that they tried a late bid to get Nisbet too ? .

Quite a number of Hearts fans said they pulled out because of the 'Celtic' clause he wanted in his contract.

[superfurryhibby]

He must be up for the move and will likely have signalled what wage he wants and we're convinced we can do that.

There is not a chance someone from the club hasn't spoken to his agent and asked the question on if he wants to come and got a positive answer. Even we're not daft enough to blindly bid only to get to the negotiation table and he asks "Why would I ever play for you?"

Totally agree. It would be very naive and quite pointless for a club to be offering money for a player who isn’t interested in coming.

The same no doubt applied to when we appointed a manager.

Of course agents will use interest as leverage when looking to get the best for their man, but they still have to tread a line between leverage and leading folk up the garden path.

[Donegal Hibby]

Quite a number of Hearts fans said they pulled out because of the 'Celtic' clause he wanted in his contract.

I had forgotten about that excuse they had for not getting Nisbet.:greengrin

[04Sauzee]

Celtic about to sell a decent young player for £2m

🚨 EXCLUSIVE! Bosun Lawal Stoke City transfer imminent as Celtic kid lands £2million move | @mhendry92

📎 footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish

[superfurryhibby]

I had forgotten about that excuse they had for not getting Nisbet.:greengrin

Yep, utter nonsense, but some hoover it up.

[matty_f]

Yep, utter nonsense, but some hoover it up.

It was quite the sight seeing the Hearts journalists and twitter users assembling as quickly as they could to deny the Bowie stuff. Hilarious.

They even added community notes onto a post about it earlier :faf:

[Paulie Walnuts]

Would the player not be weighing up whether this is the right move for him? Obviously money will be the overriding factor but at present we're not really trumping Dundee as a better team to play for.

He’ll get a huge increase in wage - likely at least double what he’s earning, potentially even closer to triple, and a move to one of Hibs, Hearts or Aberdeen is likely his best chance at ever getting a Scotland call up. He’ll not get that off the back of a move to a League One side like Bolton and he likely won’t get it at Dundee either.

A move to Hibs, Hearts or Aberdeen compared to staying at Dundee is always going to be a no brainer for someone like McCowan.

[flash]

It was quite the sight seeing the Hearts journalists and twitter users assembling as quickly as they could to deny the Bowie stuff. Hilarious.

They even added community notes onto a post about it earlier :faf:

They have some of the most loyal client journalists around.

[matty_f]

They have some of the most loyal client journalists around.

I can't remember who said it (potentially Liam from Down the Slope) but they called them the most over-represented club in Scotland, and it's true.

[04Sauzee]

Sheffield Wednesday reporter I follow on twitter who doesn't get much wrong btw

@yeswecrann

Hearing that following the signing of Iké Ugbo, #SWFC are now actively trying to get Bailey Cadamarteri out on loan this summer…

Absolutely loads of clubs want him, the latest to join the list per my understanding are Lincoln City and Hibs. thestar.co.uk//sport/footbal… 🦉⚽️

[Pytheas]

Sheffield Wednesday reporter I follow on twitter who doesn't get much wrong btw

@yeswecrann

Hearing that following the signing of Iké Ugbo, #SWFC are now actively trying to get Bailey Cadamarteri out on loan this summer…

Absolutely loads of clubs want him, the latest to join the list per my understanding are Lincoln City and Hibs. thestar.co.uk//sport/footbal… 🦉⚽️

Elizer Mayenda the 2nd.

[we are hibs]

Sheffield Wednesday reporter I follow on twitter who doesn't get much wrong btw

@yeswecrann

Hearing that following the signing of Iké Ugbo, #SWFC are now actively trying to get Bailey Cadamarteri out on loan this summer…

Absolutely loads of clubs want him, the latest to join the list per my understanding are Lincoln City and Hibs. thestar.co.uk//sport/footbal… [emoji1657][emoji460]️Is he a relation to the guy who used to play for Dundee United?

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[gbhibby]

It was quite the sight seeing the Hearts journalists and twitter users assembling as quickly as they could to deny the Bowie stuff. Hilarious.

They even added community notes onto a post about it earlier :faf:https://images.app.goo.gl/d8gWqafKf6JCwLaJ7
The laughing gnome not happy that we signed Bowie.

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[TrinityHFC]

Is he a relation to the guy who used to play for Dundee United?

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His son.

[04Sauzee]

Elizer Mayenda the 2nd.

Definitely not

[micksoo]

Is he a relation to the guy who used to play for Dundee United?

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Son of Danny

[Hibernian Verse]

Elizer Mayenda the 2nd.

Have you had a look at who he is?

7 goals in 18 in the Championship last season.

[HendoDelivered]

Have you had a look at who he is?

7 goals in 18 in the Championship last season.

It’s Cadamertri, not Ugbo.

[JohnM1875]

It’s Cadamertri, not Ugbo.

Still played plenty and scored four in the Championship last season.

Surely if we sign another striker we’re going 3-5-2

[007]

It was quite the sight seeing the Hearts journalists and twitter users assembling as quickly as they could to deny the Bowie stuff. Hilarious.

They even added community notes onto a post about it earlier :faf:

Bowie denial syndrome.

Let's Not Dance

This Is America

Black Hole Man

Nae Pressure, Totally Chilled

[HendoDelivered]

Still played plenty and scored four in the Championship last season.

Surely if we sign another striker we’re going 3-5-2

Makes me think Vente will be away if we are bringing another forward player in.

[Donegal Hibby]

Sheffield Wednesday reporter I follow on twitter who doesn't get much wrong btw

@yeswecrann

Hearing that following the signing of Iké Ugbo, #SWFC are now actively trying to get Bailey Cadamarteri out on loan this summer…

Absolutely loads of clubs want him, the latest to join the list per my understanding are Lincoln City and Hibs. thestar.co.uk//sport/footbal… 🦉⚽️

Wikipedia says he’s a 6’ 1 striker, seeing as we have Myko , Vente and others who can play in the centre . I wonder if we are interested could that mean somebody leaving or going on loan ? .Id also imagine Sheffield Wednesday will want to see him get some game time wherever he goes too .

[Mcbizz1998]

Makes me think Vente will be away if we are bringing another forward player in.

That would be ideal.

[Wheat Hound]

2nd bid rejected by Dundee for McCowan from us. I think this is one we are going to persevere with...

[04Sauzee]

@anthonyrjoseph

UPDATE: Dundee have rejected a second bid from Hibernian for midfielder Luke McCowan.

It’s understood the clubs are still far apart on valuation for The Dees captain.

@SkySportsNews revealed last week that Dundee had rejected bids from Hibs and Bolton Wanderers for McCowan.

[GordonHFC]

**** them. Move on.

[Mcbizz1998]

**** them. Move on.

Hopefully whoever is negotiating the deal isn't as reactionary as this and we can persevere and find an agreeable price.

[matty_f]

@anthonyrjoseph

UPDATE: Dundee have rejected a second bid from Hibernian for midfielder Luke McCowan.

It’s understood the clubs are still far apart on valuation for The Dees captain.

@SkySportsNews revealed last week that Dundee had rejected bids from Hibs and Bolton Wanderers for McCowan.

I wonder how these bid work?

Us - Can we have McCowan please? We'll give you £400,000.

Dundee - No thanks.

Us: Ok, bye.

A few days later...

Us: Hello, Hibs here again. Can we please have McCowan and we'll give you £400,000 and Dylan Levitt please?

Dundee: No, thanks.

Us: Ok, bye. (*thinking: damn it!)

the next day...

Us: Hello, we do really want McCowan, can we give you £450,000, Dylan Levitt, and a doubler of the Dundee badge shiny that we got in our Panini pack this week.

Dundee: We've got that one already.

Us: aw.

[J-C]

If Dundee want more than he's really worth, move on.

[GordonHFC]

Hopefully whoever is negotiating the deal isn't as reactionary as this.

Hopefully we can persevere and find an agreeable price.

Been negotiating for weeks and still miles apart.

[Mcbizz1998]

I wonder how these bid work?

Us - Can we have McCowan please? We'll give you £400,000.

Dundee - No thanks.

Us: Ok, bye.

A few days later...

Us: Hello, Hibs here again. Can we please have McCowan and we'll give you £400,000 and Dylan Levitt please?

Dundee: No, thanks.

Us: Ok, bye. (*thinking: damn it!)

the next day...

Us: Hello, we do really want McCowan, can we give you £450,000, Dylan Levitt, and a doubler of the Dundee badge shiny that we got in our Panini pack this week.

Dundee: We've got that one already.

Us: aw.

Well yeah, you would think Dundee could just name a price they are willing to accept and we can then pay it or not. I know we will haggle a bit but it all sounds a bit Hunnish putting in bids that are well below the selling clubs valuation of the player.

[Just_Jimmy]

**** them. Move on.Or actually pay what the selling club believe their player is worth, or identify someone else.

We moan like **** about the old firms attitude to our players and then we are hypocritical when a club decides we can't take them for a ride.

Pay what he's worth if we think he's worth it, or move on. If Dundee have over valued then it'll work itself out in time and we'll see.

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[B.H.F.C]

I won’t be overly disappointed if we don’t get McCowan on the basis that I haven’t had any real expectation that we would.

[truehibernian]

I won’t be overly disappointed if we don’t get McCowan on the basis that I haven’t had any real expectation that we would.

I’d wait until St Mirren are beaten next week and bid for Mark O’Hara personally- much better player.

[Rumble de Thump]

Or actually pay what the selling club believe their player is worth, or identify someone else.

We moan like **** about the old firms attitude to our players and then we are hypocritical when a club decides we can't take them for a ride.

Pay what he's worth if we think he's worth it, or move on. If Dundee have over valued then it'll work itself out in time and we'll see.

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So pay whatever Dundee want, move on or wait and see :greengrin

Dundee will be trying to line up a suitable replacement before they let him go anywhere.

[.Sean.]

If Dundee are farting about I’d properly go for Allan Campbell

[SaulGoodman]

#HandItIn?

[Mcbizz1998]

I personally think, and hope, that there is still a bit of the McCowan saga to run. Hopefully Hibs decide they want him badly enough to meet the valuation and this is all just a bit of posturing from both clubs before the deal is done.

[greenflyer]

I’d wait until St Mirren are beaten next week and bid for Mark O’Hara personally- much better player.

Robinson said Mark O'Hara is out for a few weeks with an injury.

[IanM]

If Dundee are farting about I’d properly go for Allan Campbell

This.. don’t blame Dundee but if we’re that behind on a second bid it’s unlikely our 3rd will match..

[Hibiza]

I wonder how these bid work?

Us - Can we have McCowan please? We'll give you £400,000.

Dundee - No thanks.

Us: Ok, bye.

A few days later...

Us: Hello, Hibs here again. Can we please have McCowan and we'll give you £400,000 and Dylan Levitt please?

Dundee: No, thanks.

Us: Ok, bye. (*thinking: damn it!)

the next day...

Us: Hello, we do really want McCowan, can we give you £450,000, Dylan Levitt, and a doubler of the Dundee badge shiny that we got in our Panini pack this week.

Dundee: We've got that one already.

Us: aw.
😂

[Tyler Durden]

We’re obviously serious about McCowan so I think it’s only a matter of time now.

Either of him or Allan Campbell would totally transform our midfield IMO

[Donegal Hibby]

I personally think, and hope, that there is still a bit of the McCowan saga to run. Hopefully Hibs decide they want him badly enough to meet the valuation and this is all just a bit of posturing from both clubs before the deal is done.

It will depend if the valuation for a player that can sign for another team in January is realistic though, if it’s not then it’s one we might just decide to walk away from and look at alternative targets .

[JohnM1875]

If Dundee are farting about I’d properly go for Allan Campbell

Totally agree. If it was a straight option of Campbell or McGowan I'd want Campbell anyway. Let's be honest, at best we'll only be getting one of them.

[Stuart93]

We’re obviously serious about McCowan so I think it’s only a matter of time now.

Either of him or Allan Campbell would totally transform our midfield IMO

Is it a matter of time? They’ve rejected a 2nd bid because we’re a decent bit off what they want

[Hibiza]

We've been down this road many times ( McCowan)and it's mostly ended in tears . Give Dundee a fair price , perhaps they want a ridiculous amount, that's different . C'mon we need some quality midfielders.

[Joe6-2]

We've been down this road many times ( McCowan)and it's mostly ended in tears . Give Dundee a fair price , perhaps they want a ridiculous amount, that's different . C'mon we need some quality midfielders.

This, meet the evaluation if it’s reasonable, if not walk away

[JohnM1875]

This, meet the evaluation if it’s reasonable, if not walk away

We obviously don’t think it’s reasonable or I’m sure we’d be paying it though. I’m sure we’ll know the amount they want.

[cabbageandribs1875]

**** them. Move on.

this

[EGL2000]

I’d wait until St Mirren are beaten next week and bid for Mark O’Hara personally- much better player.

I think McCowan is better personally much better stats last season as well. However doubt we would be able to afford mark contracted for till summer 2026 so likely want a bigger fee.

[JohnM1875]

I think McCowan is better personally much better stats last season as well. However doubt we would be able to afford mark contracted for till summer 2026 so likely want a bigger fee.

Think St Mirren would be looking at around £1mil for O’Hara, so you’re right.

[Tyler Durden]

Is it a matter of time? They’ve rejected a 2nd bid because we’re a decent bit off what they want

We got there with Bowie didn’t we? That didn’t happen overnight.

I think we’ll get it done

[Centre Hawf]

Well yeah, you would think Dundee could just name a price they are willing to accept and we can then pay it or not. I know we will haggle a bit but it all sounds a bit Hunnish putting in bids that are well below the selling clubs valuation of the player.

What if the difference we manage to get them down by haggling helps pay Allan Campbell or allows us to bid for Mark O'Hara? It's not peanuts we're talking about here it could be the difference in getting our next target in or not.

[Stuart93]

We got there with Bowie didn’t we? That didn’t happen overnight.

I think we’ll get it done

Did we put more than one bid in for him?

[Centre Hawf]

Did we put more than one bid in for him?

Ben K on it said "Thanks to Fulham for their support in bringing this drawn out negotiation to a successful conclusion."

I can't imagine it was as simple as "how much do you want? Aye sound then."

[Brightside]

There has been a lot more than 2 bids for LM. We've been at this for a long time.

[JohnM1875]

There has been a lot more than 2 bids for LM. We've been at this for a long time.

Dundee going public now to drum up interest. Classic.

[CallumLaidlaw]

There has been a lot more than 2 bids for LM. We've been at this for a long time.

And are we still as far away as that update makes out?


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[matty_f]

There has been a lot more than 2 bids for LM. We've been at this for a long time.

How many have there been?

[Hibiza]

The Foley " couple of million for a higher standard of player " should finance 1 or two midfielders . Or was that just " guff " .

[HoboHarry]

Not Hibs news but Chelsea have just bought their 8th keeper lol....

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cn5rz5kvqk7o

[EGL2000]

And are we still as far away as that update makes out?


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Weird that the values are still so far off then? It's no like he's worth millions where there's lots of room between the clubs respective valuations?

[Real Emerald]

There has been a lot more than 2 bids for LM. We've been at this for a long time.

It’s obvious then that we’re nowhere near what they’re willing to settle for, flogging a dead horse.

[superfurryhibby]

There has been a lot more than 2 bids for LM. We've been at this for a long time.
He’s worth the effort.

[Walter]

It’s obvious then that we’re nowhere near what they’re willing to settle for, flogging a dead horse.

Have we tried throwing a couple of whippets and a dwarf into the deal ?

[Brightside]

It’s obvious then that we’re nowhere near what they’re willing to settle for, flogging a dead horse.

Its doesnt get public unless both sides expect it to happen. Dundee have to look like they have tried everything to keep him. I'll be surprised if it's not sorted in the next few days.

[Real Emerald]

Its doesnt get public unless both sides expect it to happen. Dundee have to look like they have tried everything to keep him. I'll be surprised if it's not sorted in the next few days.

👍🤞

[ElginHibbie]

Its doesnt get public unless both sides expect it to happen. Dundee have to look like they have tried everything to keep him. I'll be surprised if it's not sorted in the next few days.

Dundee playing Hearts tomorrow... don't want to weaken them until after that :wink:

[04Sauzee]

Thought I'd have a look on the Dundee fans forum to see what they were saying about McCowan but had to come off when I read one of them had heard a rumour about Josh Doig joining them on loan 😅

[Trinity Hibee]

Thought I'd have a look on the Dundee fans forum to see what they were saying about McCowan but had to come off when I read one of them had heard a rumour about Josh Doig joining them on loan 😅

😂😂😂😂😂

[TrinityHibby]

We've been down this road many times ( McCowan)and it's mostly ended in tears . Give Dundee a fair price , perhaps they want a ridiculous amount, that's different . C'mon we need some quality midfielders.

Does anyone think Luke McCowan would see Hibs as the right career move for him at this stage of his career? Even if Dundee did accept an offer from Hibs (highly unlikely it seems) I can see him turning us down ….am I missing something here?

[badabing67]

Is it a matter of time? They’ve rejected a 2nd bid because we’re a decent bit off what they want


What they want and what he is worth are 2 different things. I don't think we should over pay our valuation of him. After all we he will be free to speak him on the 1st of January if he doesn't sign the contract extension they have offered him. If is love for Dundee is so great then why has he not signed it, that's the question. I think Hibs should stick to there guns. If there is still a stalemate then make an enquiry if not move on.

[Heisenberg]

Does anyone think Luke McCowan would see Hibs as the right career move for him at this stage of his career? Even if Dundee did accept an offer from Hibs (highly unlikely it seems) I can see him turning us down ….am I missing something here?

Surely Hibs wouldn’t be going to the bother of bidding for him without being 100% sure he’s keen on the move? Would be extremely daft.

[JohnM1875]

Solanke looks to be moving from Bournemouth to Spurs for £60m. Big task replacing his goals.

[TrinityHibby]

Its doesnt get public unless both sides expect it to happen. Dundee have to look like they have tried everything to keep him. I'll be surprised if it's not sorted in the next few days.

Bids get put in for players all the time and then transfers fail to materialise …….I would be astonished if this is Hibs and Dundee playing it out for the cameras / to appease the supporters 🎥 …..Is there anyone a’in the know’ on here?

[Brightside]

Does anyone think Luke McCowan would see Hibs as the right career move for him at this stage of his career? Even if Dundee did accept an offer from Hibs (highly unlikely it seems) I can see him turning us down ….am I missing something here?

There is no way we are pushing this if we haven't already agreed things with Luke.

[Brightside]

Solanke looks to be moving from Bournemouth to Spurs for £60m. Big task replacing his goals.

We can loan them Vente

[TrinityHibby]

Surely Hibs wouldn’t be going to the bother of bidding for him without being 100% sure he’s keen on the move? Would be extremely daft.


Hibs have done so many daft things and for years so this will be just another to add to a very long list 😂😂

[Iain G]

Solanke looks to be moving from Bournemouth to Spurs for £60m. Big task replacing his goals.

We know the ideal Dutchman to fill his boots...who is driving Vente to the South coast? 😁

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Solanke looks to be moving from Bournemouth to Spurs for £60m. Big task replacing his goals.

Good business that 🤯

[TrinityHibby]

This.. don’t blame Dundee but if we’re that behind on a second bid it’s unlikely our 3rd will match..

I don’t think Hibs can afford him

[TrinityHibby]

There is no way we are pushing this if we haven't already agreed things with Luke.

of course there is ……it’s the Hibs way

[Pytheas]

Does anyone think Luke McCowan would see Hibs as the right career move for him at this stage of his career? Even if Dundee did accept an offer from Hibs (highly unlikely it seems) I can see him turning us down ….am I missing something here?

Its a bad career move if PSG are also in for him, as it stands it looks like it's clubs like Hibs and Bolton that are willing to part with money for him and he would be mad to not 3X his wages while his stock is high.

[K-Zazu]

of course there is ……it’s the Hibs way

Just keep bashing the club at every opportunity, at least we are actually trying to buy players eh?

[TrinityHibby]

Its a bad career move if PSG are also in for him, as it stands it looks like it's clubs like Hibs and Bolton that are willing to part with money for him and he would be mad to not 3X his wages while his stock is high.

or wait until January where he is likely to have many more suitors keen to get him on a PCA? Unless he gets badly injured surely he will pocket much better terms than Dundee and Hibs could offer now? …..it’s not happening is my expectation…shame as I really like him as a player

[Just_Jimmy]

So pay whatever Dundee want, move on or wait and see :greengrin

Dundee will be trying to line up a suitable replacement before they let him go anywhere.No, either pay it or don't. Stop blaming smaller clubs for expecting us to meet their valuation. It makes us look like idiots. It's the same when the old firm come trying to low ball us for our players.

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[TrinityHibby]

Just keep bashing the club at every opportunity, at least we are actually trying to buy players eh?

pathetic response …dry your eyes 👀

[JohnM1875]

No, either pay it or don't. Stop blaming smaller clubs for expecting us to meet their valuation. It makes us look like idiots. It's the same when the old firm come trying to low ball us for our players.

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Pretty much every transfer in world football involving a fee will work like this though. No one will just go straight in with the selling clubs asking price.

[keep the faith]

Hope we are still actively pursuing Campbell regardless.

He is the key signing for me.

[HoboHarry]

Dundee have an absolute responsibility to themselves to get every penny they can for one of their assets, equally Hibs are responsible to themselves to only spend what they need to, it's a business transaction and no different to selling your house. It may happen tomorrow or the last day of the window, but if the player wants to come to Hibs he will.

[Just_Jimmy]

Pretty much every transfer in world football involving a fee will work like this though. No one will just go straight in with the selling clubs asking price.But don't bad mouth that club for trying to get the best deal.

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[Hibees1973]

I don’t think Hibs can afford him

Tbh if he is in the last year of his contract it would be nuts if we offer any more than £200k.

Move on if they don't accept this.

[GloryGlory]

Just keep bashing the club at every opportunity, at least we are actually trying to buy players eh?

:agree: Just a week ago people were complaining that the club wasn't going to spend any money and wasn't likely to bring in any more players. Four new players and a big transfer fee paid later with a bid in for a fifth player and folk still aren't happy.

[TrinityHibby]

Tbh if he is in the last year of his contract is would be nuts if we offer any more than £200k.

Move on if they don't accept this.

if Hibs are only offering £200k for Dundee’s Captain, Player of the Year and Players Player of the Year things are even crazier in our recruitment department than I thought they were 😂😂

[TrinityHibby]

Dundee have an absolute responsibility to themselves to get every penny they can for one of their assets, equally Hibs are responsible to themselves to only spend what they need to, it's a business transaction and no different to selling your house. It may happen tomorrow or the last day of the window, but if the player wants to come to Hibs he will.

Totally agree……I would be delighted if Luke McCowan was totally sold on a move to Hibs however he is 27 and looking for the biggest and most lucrative deal of his career

[Silky]

No, either pay it or don't. Stop blaming smaller clubs for expecting us to meet their valuation. It makes us look like idiots. It's the same when the old firm come trying to low ball us for our players.

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Makes us look like idiots if we pay over the odds for him. Dundee will have a valuation, so will we. Guaranteed the club qould get it tight for just giving in and paying an inflated fee for a player who has a year left. If they don't want to budge and lose him for nowt next year, that's their prerogative.

[Alfred E Newman]

No, either pay it or don't. Stop blaming smaller clubs for expecting us to meet their valuation. It makes us look like idiots. It's the same when the old firm come trying to low ball us for our players.

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I think we tend to think we are a bigger club than we really are. Of course my generation can remember when Dundee were a real force in the Scottish game but I would see this transfer more as a sideways move for him. Yes we have more resources and get bigger gates than Dundee and they have struggled for a few years but historically there is not much between the clubs though I think they now carry the Scottish Cub bogey. I hope we get him as he is just the type of player we need but if he is as good as we think he is then he should be looking higher up than Hibs especially at his age.

[Wilson]

Makes us look like idiots if we pay over the odds for him. Dundee will have a valuation, so will we. Guaranteed the club qould get it tight for just giving in and paying an inflated fee for a player who has a year left. If they don't want to budge and lose him for nowt next year, that's their prerogative.

It is. And what if they DO want to do that? If the player is that important they may see him as the difference between competing for top six or fighting relegation ?

Top flight survival is worth more to Dundee than a paltry sum.

Turning down a low ball figure as their perogative doesn't help hibs one bit!

[Spudster]

I think we tend to think we are a bigger club than we really are. Of course my generation can remember when Dundee were a real force in the Scottish game but I would see this transfer more as a sideways move for him. Yes we have more resources and get bigger gates than Dundee and they have struggled for a few years but historically there is not much between the clubs though I think they now carry the Scottish Cub bogey.

Dundee: League x 1, Scottish Cup x 1, League Cup x 3
Hibs: League x 4, Scottish Cup x 3, League Cup x 3

:confused: Their last trophy was a league cup in 1974

[Cabbage-Patch]

if Hibs are only offering £200k for Dundee’s Captain, Player of the Year and Players Player of the Year things are even crazier in our recruitment department than I thought they were 😂😂

Dundee want £500k which I believe Hibs are willing to pay its the substantial sell on fee and other add ons they want that appear to be the stumbling block.

Even if that's agreed then that only allows Hibs to speak to McCowan who still needs to be persuaded to sign. Unfortunately this deal is miles off yet.

[hibeerealist]

I think we tend to think we are a bigger club than we really are. Of course my generation can remember when Dundee were a real force in the Scottish game but I would see this transfer more as a sideways move for him. Yes we have more resources and get bigger gates than Dundee and they have struggled for a few years but historically there is not much between the clubs though I think they now carry the Scottish Cub bogey. I hope we get him as he is just the type of player we need but if he is as good as we think he is then he should be looking higher up than Hibs especially at his age.


Hold on Alfred, did Dundee no win the league in 1986.......oh wait?

[SHODAN]

If we're not prepared to meet their valuation then we shouldn't bother. We'd be raging if a bigger team than us were trying to sign our best player for buttons.

[Gordy M]

If we're not prepared to meet their valuation then we shouldn't bother. We'd be raging if a bigger team than us were trying to sign our best player for buttons.

But its not "for buttons" if the price is reasonably low in the place, offering 250k instead of 500k is miles different to offering 1 million for a player valued at 2million. Its the same percentage but a big difference in money.

[Centre Hawf]

If we're not prepared to meet their valuation then we shouldn't bother. We'd be raging if a bigger team than us were trying to sign our best player for buttons.

This mentality is mad to me. Both parties will have set their positions at the extreme ends with a view to seeing who will come over quicker.

People need to calm down and let it play out.

[CapitalGreen]

If we're not prepared to meet their valuation then we shouldn't bother. We'd be raging if a bigger team than us were trying to sign our best player for buttons.

You’d be a salesman’s dream.

[Souter96Mac]

Dundee want £500k which I believe Hibs are willing to pay its the substantial sell on fee and other add ons they want that appear to be the stumbling block.

Even if that's agreed then that only allows Hibs to speak to McCowan who still needs to be persuaded to sign. Unfortunately this deal is miles off yet.

Give them the sell on fee deal they want, can't see us selling him on for much more at the age he's at.

[HoboHarry]

If we're not prepared to meet their valuation then we shouldn't bother. We'd be raging if a bigger team than us were trying to sign our best player for buttons.
Fans might be raging but any competent businessman involved in the negotiations will have a level headed view of what's going on.

[Rumble de Thump]

But don't bad mouth that club for trying to get the best deal.

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Nobody is. It's expected.

[AlbertK86]

Its doesnt get public unless both sides expect it to happen. Dundee have to look like they have tried everything to keep him. I'll be surprised if it's not sorted in the next few days.

Hope so


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[LaMotta]

Tbh if he is in the last year of his contract it would be nuts if we offer any more than £200k.

Move on if they don't accept this.


This whole last year of the contract thing is a bit of a funny thing when talking about players values. Ok you might get the player for free in a year, so it forces the selling club to maybe take less than they otherwise would to mitigate the risk of him leaving for nothing. But he will have many more suitors if he is on a free.

And it doesn't matter to us if McCowan has 4 years left on his contract or 1 year left - we still get the same player either way. We want (and need him now) so penny pinching is not sensible, just because he has a year left on his contract.

[TrinityHibby]

This whole last year of the contract thing is a bit of a funny thing when talking about players values. Ok you might get the player for free in a year, so it forces the selling club to maybe take less than they otherwise would to mitigate the risk of him leaving for nothing. But he will have many more suitors if he is on a free.

And it doesn't matter to us if McCowan has 4 years left on his contract or 1 year left - we still get the same player either way. We want (and need him now) so penny pinching is not sensible, just because he has a year left on his contract.


Dundee will believe they have a good chance of finishing above Hibs this season and Top 6 was a massive thing for them last year. Hibs lost over seven figures last year by finishing 8th and if each league placing is worth c£300k Dundee would be mad to let him go for peanuts. If he is available for £500k I’d say that is a good deal assuming he wants to come on sensible money and the add one are reasonable

[Tyler Durden]

This whole last year of the contract thing is a bit of a funny thing when talking about players values. Ok you might get the player for free in a year, so it forces the selling club to maybe take less than they otherwise would to mitigate the risk of him leaving for nothing. But he will have many more suitors if he is on a free.

And it doesn't matter to us if McCowan has 4 years left on his contract or 1 year left - we still get the same player either way. We want (and need him now) so penny pinching is not sensible, just because he has a year left on his contract.

Yeah I’d say with every passing year this holds less relevance, both at the top level and at ours.

The market has adapted to take this into account.

[BILLYHIBS]

Spurs agree 65m Solanke deal with Bournemouth

Medical tonight

LiveScore

[BILLYHIBS]

Rory Whittaker on loan to Spartans until January

[04Sauzee]

Aberdeen are closing in on the signing of HJK Helsinki winger Topi Keskinen.

It's understood a deal worth around £800,000 has been agreed by the clubs.

The 21-year-old is a Finland U21 international.

[Alfred E Newman]

Hold on Alfred, did Dundee no win the league in 1986.......oh wait?

They should have been awarded the title for that performance.

[Since452]

Rory Whittaker on loan to Spartans until January

To think Montgomery was playing him in the first team

[Kato]

I thought he was responding to being asked directly about it by a journalist? If he's issued that statement off his own back then yes, what a kn*b.No one is obliged to answer every question asked by a journalist.

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[Gordy M]

Dundee will believe they have a good chance of finishing above Hibs this season and Top 6 was a massive thing for them last year. Hibs lost over seven figures last year by finishing 8th and if each league placing is worth c£300k Dundee would be mad to let him go for peanuts. If he is available for £500k I’d say that is a good deal assuming he wants to come on sensible money and the add one are reasonable
The difference last year between Dundee in 6th and Hibs in 8th was less than £250k im sure. Each place is worth about 100k to 150k, less the lower down you go.

[Northernhibee]

To think Montgomery was playing him in the first team

He didn’t have any other right backs.

[B.H.F.C]

I thought Whittaker looked good when he came on against Watford the other week. He’s ahead of where he really should be so the loan will do him good.

[Hibiza]

Aberdeen are closing in on the signing of HJK Helsinki winger Topi Keskinen.

It's understood a deal worth around £800,000 has been agreed by the clubs.

The 21-year-old is a Finland U21 international.

No messing about from the Shepherds

[Unseen work]

Huge amount of money for Aberdeen to spend on him, just be really highly rated

Suppose can risk a bit more with the money for Miovski

[CapitalGreen]

Aberdeen are closing in on the signing of HJK Helsinki winger Topi Keskinen.

It's understood a deal worth around £800,000 has been agreed by the clubs.

The 21-year-old is a Finland U21 international.

He played against them last season in the conference league.

[BILLYHIBS]

To think Montgomery was playing him in the first team

Spartans have got big ideas according to a mate that watches them and Hibs

[BILLYHIBS]

I thought Whittaker looked good when he came on against Watford the other week. He’s ahead of where he really should be so the loan will do him good.

Agree progressive

[Lago]

To think Montgomery was playing him in the first team
He didn't embarrass himself when Montgomery played him.

[Billy Whizz]

Huge amount of money for Aberdeen to spend on him, just be really highly rated

Suppose can risk a bit more with the money for Miovski

They have to replace him though

[Callum_62]

Aberdeen are closing in on the signing of HJK Helsinki winger Topi Keskinen.

It's understood a deal worth around £800,000 has been agreed by the clubs.

The 21-year-old is a Finland U21 international.Looks rubbish TBF

https://youtu.be/E2zKAqmHofk?si=EroKDzukgtfBXpSZ

[emoji51]

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[Since452]

Aberdeen are closing in on the signing of HJK Helsinki winger Topi Keskinen.

It's understood a deal worth around £800,000 has been agreed by the clubs.

The 21-year-old is a Finland U21 international.

Hopefully another Melkersen type.

[Allant1981]

To think Montgomery was playing him in the first team

Who else was there?

[The Modfather]

To think Montgomery was playing him in the first team

Of all the valid sticks to beat Montgomery with I can’t work out why you keep persisting with this one.

[HendoDelivered]

Is Allan Campbell under contract still or a free agent? Assumed he had a year left on his deal at Luton but think I may be wrong.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Spartans have got big ideas according to a mate that watches them and Hibs

Spartans are a great club. If they can get promoted again then they really could push on and establish themselves as a Championship club within the next 5 years or so imo.

[Stuart93]

Is Allan Campbell under contract still or a free agent? Assumed he had a year left on his deal at Luton but think I may be wrong.

Think he’s contracted but he’s free to find a new club so would cost.

I think anyway

[stuart-farquhar]

Spartans are a great club. If they can get promoted again then they really could push on and establish themselves as a Championship club within the next 5 years or so imo.

And take fans from us?

[Unseen work]

I really rate Whittaker.

Came in as a 16 year old and thought his pressing, attitude etc was absolutely brilliant. Thought he looked very composed and good on the ball.

I’m not going to critique the performances of a 16 year old (he’s already achieved more than me) but I’ve no doubt he will improve and go on to be a good player for us.

Spartans is a good loan move imo.

All the best!

[Donegal Hibby]

I had a look on the Dundee forum and left it when I read that Dundee shouldn’t take a penny less than 1. 5 mill for McCowan 👀.

I do wonder what we offered and what they value him at ? . If it’s above 700K then I think we should move on to another target , Campbell would be just as good , maybe even better if we could get him .

[Real Emerald]

I had a look on the Dundee forum and left it when I read that Dundee shouldn’t take a penny less than 1. 5 mill for McCowan 👀.

I do wonder what we offered and what they value him at ? . If it’s above 700K then I think we should move on to another target , Campbell would be just as good , maybe even better if we could get him .

If it’s true we’ve made multiple bids you’ve got to think there’s still hope it could happen. If (for example) they’re asking for £700k and we’re offering £200k then £250k what’s the point. It must be closer than they’re making it out otherwise we’re just wasting time and energy that would be better used elsewhere.

We’re in dire need to upgrade the midfield regardless of how many forward players we sign so it’s very important we get some quality in. 🤞

[Trinity Hibee]

Thing is a players value is set by the club yes, but really it’s linked to what his club are paying him. If Dundee aren’t paying him much they can’t expect to get 1.5m for him with a year left on his deal.

[Real Emerald]

Thing is a players value is set by the club yes, but really it’s linked to what his club are paying him. If Dundee aren’t paying him much they can’t expect to get 1.5m for him with a year left on his deal.

A player is only worth how much another club will pay. Look at Shankland, he’s in no way worth £5m with his contract situation and age but he may be worth Hearts putting that fee on him as he’s worth millions to them this season. Even if someone stumped up £5m there’s probably no chance they’ll be able to get another 30+ goals a season striker for that. Rangers can’t.

[bod]

Thing is a players value is set by the club yes, but really it’s linked to what his club are paying him. If Dundee aren’t paying him much they can’t expect to get 1.5m for him with a year left on his deal.

I remember Celtic tried that with Scott brown & the tashe saying what we pay our staff is of no concern of anyone else they should only be concerned on what we value him as

[Smartie]

I really rate Whittaker.

Came in as a 16 year old and thought his pressing, attitude etc was absolutely brilliant. Thought he looked very composed and good on the ball.

I’m not going to critique the performances of a 16 year old (he’s already achieved more than me) but I’ve no doubt he will improve and go on to be a good player for us.

Spartans is a good loan move imo.

All the best!

I like Whittaker - I reckon he’ll become a cracking player.

I also think we do him a disservice by suggesting we were ruining him by placing him in the first team. There were no alternatives and he’ll understand that our expectations were relative to what you might expect from a 16yo being thrown into the team as an emergency. One or two of the games got a bit uncomfortable when he was being targeted but to make it in football he’ll need to be made of tough stuff - and if he’s made of tough stuff he’ll view that as invaluable experience and a positive.

[McD]

I really rate Whittaker.

Came in as a 16 year old and thought his pressing, attitude etc was absolutely brilliant. Thought he looked very composed and good on the ball.

I’m not going to critique the performances of a 16 year old (he’s already achieved more than me) but I’ve no doubt he will improve and go on to be a good player for us.

Spartans is a good loan move imo.

All the best!


:agree: A talented young man. I thought he looked athletic, quick, unintimidated, keen to participate and contribute in matches. It’s no critique from me, the only thing I thought he lacked was experience, which he’ll only get by playing matches.

Going to Spartans and playing every week, against experienced and fully developed men, will only help him, and I’m sure he’ll have a bit of filling out to do as well which will help his own strength against grown men. He’s got huge potential

[Sioux]

I remember Celtic tried that with Scott brown & the tashe saying what we pay our staff is of no concern of anyone else they should only be concerned on what we value him as

Correct.

[wookie70]

:agree: A talented young man. I thought he looked athletic, quick, unintimidated, keen to participate and contribute in matches. It’s no critique from me, the only thing I thought he lacked was experience, which he’ll only get by playing matches.

Going to Spartans and playing every week, against experienced and fully developed men, will only help him, and I’m sure he’ll have a bit of filling out to do as well which will help his own strength against grown men. He’s got huge potential

Watching him against Albion Rovers he has added a fair amount of aggression to his game too. A good move for him I think

[Donegal Hibby]

If it’s true we’ve made multiple bids you’ve got to think there’s still hope it could happen. If (for example) they’re asking for £700k and we’re offering £200k then £250k what’s the point. It must be closer than they’re making it out otherwise we’re just wasting time and energy that would be better used elsewhere.

We’re in dire need to upgrade the midfield regardless of how many forward players we sign so it’s very important we get some quality in. 🤞

It could be a case of we are offering around 400K plus Levitt or another player which would bring our offer to around about 650K and they are looking for more and maybe just a cash deal , nobody really knows what we have offered or what they are wanting I think.

If that’s the case I think it’s probably time to move on from it IMO as i don’t think we should go over 600K or 700k anyhow.

Good thing about it is , wither we get McCowan or not it would appear that we are going to take in a decent midfielder by the looks of it .

[MWHIBBIES]

Thing is a players value is set by the club yes, but really it’s linked to what his club are paying him. If Dundee aren’t paying him much they can’t expect to get 1.5m for him with a year left on his deal.

It's almost in no way at all related to his wages.

[IvanSproule]

It could be a case of we are offering around 400K plus Levitt or another player which would bring our offer to around about 650K and they are looking for more and maybe just a cash deal , nobody really knows what we have offered or what they are wanting I think.

If that’s the case I think it’s probably time to move on from it IMO as i don’t think we should go over 600K or 700k anyhow.

Good thing about it is , wither we get McCowan or not it would appear that we are going to take in a decent midfielder by the looks of it .Yeah either way I'm glad that they're aware that Centre midfield is where we need to spend the funds.
Of course McCowan comes with the added benefit of knowing he has the quality and mentality for this level.
Either way we will be buying someone to transform the midfield

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[Walter]

It could be a case of we are offering around 400K plus Levitt or another player which would bring our offer to around about 650K and they are looking for more and maybe just a cash deal , nobody really knows what we have offered or what they are wanting I think.

If that’s the case I think it’s probably time to move on from it IMO as i don’t think we should go over 600K or 700k anyhow.

Good thing about it is , wither we get McCowan or not it would appear that we are going to take in a decent midfielder by the looks of it .

And who's to say they can afford Levitt's wages ? Plus I still think in the correct role he will be some player

[Donegal Hibby]

And who's to say they can afford Levitt's wages ? Plus I still think in the correct role he will be some player

I’ve been far from convinced in Levitt , there’s been glimpses of his ability but nothing more imo . I did see one the Dundee posters mention that they thought Levitt was on 4 or 5 grand a week at us and why would they give him that when they could give it to McCowan to stay … don’t know what Levitt gets at hibs and would doubt many fans do without guessing on it really.

[Real Emerald]

It could be a case of we are offering around 400K plus Levitt or another player which would bring our offer to around about 650K and they are looking for more and maybe just a cash deal , nobody really knows what we have offered or what they are wanting I think.

If that’s the case I think it’s probably time to move on from it IMO as i don’t think we should go over 600K or 700k anyhow.

Good thing about it is , wither we get McCowan or not it would appear that we are going to take in a decent midfielder by the looks of it .

I don’t think Hibs will pay anywhere near that anyway. £500k is probably a really good price but Dundee won’t think so. Trying to bring quality in to upgrade our midfield is a must so I’m happy we are trying.

[BILLYHIBS]

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[Brightside]

Nobody has any idea how much we have bid or what Dundee are looking for. “Bids” are just PR. The clubs will be in constant contact whilst they try and agree a solution for all. It will get to a point that we won’t offer anymore and then it’s up to Dundee to take that or walk away. Personally I think it will happen. But we are all guessing about the details

[Onceinawhile]

David De Gea joins Fiorentina 12 month contract on a free transfer after 12 months out of the game

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I'm 80% sure that was a doping ban that kept him out the game for a year right?!?

[Centre Hawf]

I'm 80% sure that was a doping ban that kept him out the game for a year right?!?

I always thought it was mental how long he was without a club. Especially considering the big clubs that lost a keeper last year.

[HendoDelivered]

Nobody has any idea how much we have bid or what Dundee are looking for. “Bids” are just PR. The clubs will be in constant contact whilst they try and agree a solution for all. It will get to a point that we won’t offer anymore and then it’s up to Dundee to take that or walk away. Personally I think it will happen. But we are all guessing about the details

I take it, it’s either him or Campbell, not both?

[LEaston87]

Unless Dundee have given McCowan a new 3 year deal there’s no way we should be paying any more than 400k for him. He has no resale value at 26/27 years old so we would be relying on him performing and after our hopes of Levitt last season theres no guarantee. If they are holding out for more we shouldn’t be held ransom. We could get him on a precontract in January anyway. They sold Gavin Rae to the Huns for 250k and he was capped for Scotland - they’re not a club who can demand big fees for their assets. As much as i’d love him to sign for us if we have the funds I hope we have alternatives coz we need a #10.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Luke McCowan is 26. Keith Wright was 26 when we signed him from Dundee. For that reason alone, we should sign McCowan.

[neil7908]

Unless Dundee have given McCowan a new 3 year deal there’s no way we should be paying any more than 400k for him. He has no resale value at 26/27 years old so we would be relying on him performing and after our hopes of Levitt last season theres no guarantee. If they are holding out for more we shouldn’t be held ransom. We could get him on a precontract in January anyway. They sold Gavin Rae to the Huns for 250k and he was capped for Scotland - they’re not a club who can demand big fees for their assets. As much as i’d love him to sign for us if we have the funds I hope we have alternatives coz we need a #10.

I agree we should be prepared to walk away from a deal here and quickly move onto other targets. Take the money we would have offered to Dundee and put it towards Alan Campbell.

I'd like McGowan at Hibs but his age means we shouldn't throw silly money around. Plenty other players out there.

[1875Sean]

I'm 80% sure that was a doping ban that kept him out the game for a year right?!?

Where did you hear that? Never seen that come up at all

[Hulk1875]

I agree we should be prepared to walk away from a deal here and quickly move onto other targets. Take the money we would have offered to Dundee and put it towards Alan Campbell.

I'd like McGowan at Hibs but his age means we shouldn't throw silly money around. Plenty other players out there.

Why not pay good money for someone that can do a job yeah good to get a return money wise but this guy could give good 3/4 years worth the fee

[tonyrougier123]

If there’s a deal to be done for mccowan fair enough, but there’s no way we should fawn over a deal for him. If Dylan Levitt on loan or permanent plus a little cash and a sell on doesn’t cover it then Dundee will either have to give him a bumper deal which would hamper their budgets or risk losing him. If what’s been touted isn’t enough we should move on quickly. We aren’t bidding for a full international here it’s a Dundee player who looks decent nothing more.

Let’s not forget the promising player they would be getting in Levitt if the lad wants to go up there.

[neil7908]

Why not pay good money for someone that can do a job yeah good to get a return money wise but this guy could give good 3/4 years worth the fee

I like him I just don't think he's a player we need to get at any cost. We're talking big money for us for a guy that has only SPL experience, is free in 12 months and is an age where there is no resale value.

If we can get a deal then great but I won't be attacking the club if we don't get it done.

[Bobby's Cinema]

I like him I just don't think he's a player we need to get at any cost. We're talking big money for us for a guy that has only SPL experience, is free in 12 months and is an age where there is no resale value.

If we can get a deal then great but I won't be attacking the club if we don't get it done.
Experience in our league is an important factor - stuck in my mind from MM's first interview that he sees part of his role as improving risk management of transfers - reduce the risk of a transfer not working out. Man do I feel old if at 26 we are saying we won't sign someone because there is no sell on potential.

[Alex Trager]

Unless Dundee have given McCowan a new 3 year deal there’s no way we should be paying any more than 400k for him. He has no resale value at 26/27 years old so we would be relying on him performing and after our hopes of Levitt last season theres no guarantee. If they are holding out for more we shouldn’t be held ransom. We could get him on a precontract in January anyway. They sold Gavin Rae to the Huns for 250k and he was capped for Scotland - they’re not a club who can demand big fees for their assets. As much as i’d love him to sign for us if we have the funds I hope we have alternatives coz we need a #10.

Sometimes you have to look at it alternatively in my mind, and see that LM would add a lot to our midfield. The idea being that he would bring in more than £400K in footballing rewards over the length of his contract.

See the Shankland situation. He’s not worth £5M to other clubs, but that is how much Hearts think they will get if he stays by securing the groups again.

That is a sensible bit of business from them, even knowing that he will leave for diddly at the end of next season.

[Heisenberg]

Sometimes you have to look at it alternatively in my mind, and see that LM would add a lot to our midfield. The idea being that he would bring in more than £400K in footballing rewards over the length of his contract.

See the Shankland situation. He’s not worth £5M to other clubs, but that is how much Hearts think they will get if he stays by securing the groups again.

That is a sensible bit of business from them, even knowing that he will leave for diddly at the end of next season.

It’s a good point, if keeping McCowan has them a few places higher up the league then it makes total sense to keep hold of him unless we offer silly money. Obviously that could backfire and they don’t make the top six again and fall down the league but it’s probably a risk worth taking.

[flash]

It’s a good point, if keeping McCowan has them a few places higher up the league then it makes total sense to keep hold of him unless we offer silly money. Obviously that could backfire and they don’t make the top six again and fall down the league but it’s probably a risk worth taking.

They need to either sell him or extend his contract.

It's exactly how 99% of clubs operate.

[Nicho87]

I think it’s a bit crazy to be saying we shouldn’t be paying over x amount as McGowan is 26/27

Hibs I guarantee will be selling themselves as well look at all the players in recent years and the last 20 years that have earnt big moves down south etc

McGowan could come here before the window shuts - win player of the season and Hibs could be in a position where we are getting bids next summer.

The player himself will I’m sure have aspirations for Scotland and potentially down south also.

Up-coming player who’s going through a purple patch and just about to peak, would he be a starter in our midfield. Absolutely.

I can’t see Hibs going past 600k plus a player, Hibs will have a final offer amount they can go to

If we don’t get McGowan I hope Hibs have got 1/2 other options to get in as midfield needs sorted

[SteveHFC]

Be interesting if he plays today or has picked up an injury in training

[Heisenberg]

They need to either sell him or extend his contract.

It's exactly how 99% of clubs operate.

It’s not exactly how 99% of clubs operate at all 😂

[AlbertK86]

Why not pay good money for someone that can do a job yeah good to get a return money wise but this guy could give good 3/4 years worth the fee

Spot on.

At the end of the day it’s about getting a team that can win on the park.

Not every signing needs to have a sell on value.

The value is what he brings to the team.

We’ve tried going down the buy with hope of a sell on with the likes of Mackay, Tait, Jair and many more.


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[matty_f]

I think it’s a bit crazy to be saying we shouldn’t be paying over x amount as McGowan is 26/27

Hibs I guarantee will be selling themselves as well look at all the players in recent years and the last 20 years that have earnt big moves down south etc

McGowan could come here before the window shuts - win player of the season and Hibs could be in a position where we are getting bids next summer.

The player himself will I’m sure have aspirations for Scotland and potentially down south also.

Up-coming player who’s going through a purple patch and just about to peak, would he be a starter in our midfield. Absolutely.

I can’t see Hibs going past 600k plus a player, Hibs will have a final offer amount they can go to

If we don’t get McGowan I hope Hibs have got 1/2 other options to get in as midfield needs sorted

There will definitely be a ceiling where the deal doesn’t represent good value for us and then beyond that we need to look at other targets. It’s worth noting that the same thing that Dundee will consider (keep him, finish higher in the league, have the prize money which is worth more than we’re offering, potentially) also applies to us in that a higher league placing thanks to signing him would offset some of the cost of his transfer for.

If that’s the difference between millions of European money if we sign him and a couple of hundred grand for a league placing outside the Euro spots, then it might make sense to reach to get him.

Obviously there are no guarantees in football and both sides gamble with it.

[superfurryhibby]

There will definitely be a ceiling where the deal doesn’t represent good value for us and then beyond that we need to look at other targets. It’s worth noting that the same thing that Dundee will consider (keep him, finish higher in the league, have the prize money which is worth more than we’re offering, potentially) also applies to us in that a higher league placing thanks to signing him would offset some of the cost of his transfer for.

If that’s the difference between millions of European money if we sign him and a couple of hundred grand for a league placing outside the Euro spots, then it might make sense to reach to get him.

Obviously there are no guarantees in football and both sides gamble with it.

All fair observations Matty.

Dundee may well think the potential benefits outweigh the fee. They are a yo-yo club and desperate to ensure they stay in the top league. McCowan was a huge part of that last season.

A key factor is what the player wants though. He is being offered the chance to have a big increase in wages, play for a club with a chance of winning something and potentially push for the chance to get into the Scotland squad. If he is really keen to go now, they risk having an unsettled McCowan on their books for the coming season.

[Just_Jimmy]

Unless Dundee have given McCowan a new 3 year deal there’s no way we should be paying any more than 400k for him. He has no resale value at 26/27 years old so we would be relying on him performing and after our hopes of Levitt last season theres no guarantee. If they are holding out for more we shouldn’t be held ransom. We could get him on a precontract in January anyway. They sold Gavin Rae to the Huns for 250k and he was capped for Scotland - they’re not a club who can demand big fees for their assets. As much as i’d love him to sign for us if we have the funds I hope we have alternatives coz we need a #10.They sold Rae in January 2004 when they went into administration. 20 years ago with severe financial issues.

I absolutely detest the total disrespect towards other clubs just because people think they should bend over and give us their players cheap.

It's absolute hypocrisy when the old firm do it to us.

They are entitled to ask for what they think he's worth. They may overvalue him as they don't want to sell, but will sell for a huge fee or they may be willing to let him play out his deal as its worth more than being offered.

Likewise, hibs have to get the best deal for us, but that doesn't involve tearing into dundee for trying to maximise the deal.

If the clubs cannot agree, he'll stay and we'll likely find out in due course what the market really is for him.

I suspect Dundee will agree a fee with Hibs eventually. I hope we're both happy with the outcome.

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[flash]

It’s not exactly how 99% of clubs operate at all ��

Much as I admire your use of the emoji how many players who are desirable to other clubs see out their contract and leave for nothing?

If you look at social media all the Dundee fans are telling him to sign a new contract. Nobody whatsoever is saying stay this season and leave for nothing at the end.

It's why Hertz either want Shankland to extend or they try to move him on too.

Of course players have the right to see out their contract and some do but it's incredibly rare that the club involved wants it to work out that way.

[Heisenberg]

Much as I admire your use of the emoji how many players who are desirable to other clubs see out their contract and leave for nothing?

If you look at social media all the Dundee fans are telling him to sign a new contract. Nobody whatsoever is saying stay this season and leave for nothing at the end.

It's why Hertz either want Shankland to extend or they try to move him on too.

Of course players have the right to see out their contract and some do but it's incredibly rare that the club involved wants it to work out that way.

Spittal, Dhanda and Penrice were the best players at their clubs last season or at least second best and all had interest. All left for free at the end of their contracts because no clubs would pay their asking price to take them earlier and they didn’t want to sign new contracts. Those are just three very recent examples from teams in our own league. To say 99% of clubs doesn’t seem accurate to me at all.

[flash]

Spittal, Dhanda and Penrice were the best players at their clubs last season or at least second best and all had interest. All left for free at the end of their contracts because no clubs would pay their asking price to take them earlier and they didn’t want to sign new contracts. Those are just three very recent examples from teams in our own league. To say 99% of clubs doesn’t seem accurate to me at all.

Was probably an exaggeration. Anyway we can both agree that hopefully it doesn't happen this time.

[Heisenberg]

Was probably an exaggeration. Anyway we can both agree that hopefully it doesn't happen this time.

We can certainly agree on that, I’m not confident right enough. Here’s hoping!

[lucky]

McGowan is a decent player but has had one really good season. Hibs can’t and won’t pay 7 figures for him. His wage expectations will match the fee. I don’t see him signing for anyone. He’d be better staying at Dundee and leave for free next summer.

[flash]

We can certainly agree on that, I’m not confident right enough. Here’s hoping!

I reckon we will either get him or somebody else of a similar level.

We don't seem to be messing about here.

[Squealing pig]

Be interesting if he plays today or has picked up an injury in training

Think Dundee pitch might be the issue

[04Sauzee]

I reckon we will either get him or somebody else of a similar level.

We don't seem to be messing about here.

I think you are correct but I do wonder who Hibs see as their plan b or c? I wonder who else has a similar profile to McCowan.

[hibeerealist]

They sold Rae in January 2004 when they went into administration. 20 years ago with severe financial issues.

I absolutely detest the total disrespect towards other clubs just because people think they should bend over and give us their players cheap.

It's absolute hypocrisy when the old firm do it to us.

They are entitled to ask for what they think he's worth. They may overvalue him as they don't want to sell, but will sell for a huge fee or they may be willing to let him play out his deal as its worth more than being offered.

Likewise, hibs have to get the best deal for us, but that doesn't involve tearing into dundee for trying to maximise the deal.

If the clubs cannot agree, he'll stay and we'll likely find out in due course what the market really is for him.

I suspect Dundee will agree a fee with Hibs eventually. I hope we're both happy with the outcome.

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Good post Jimmy

[greenlex]

Think Dundee pitch might be the issue

Won’t be an issue. It’s brand spanking new.

[flash]

McGowan is a decent player but has had one really good season. Hibs can’t and won’t pay 7 figures for him. His wage expectations will match the fee. I don’t see him signing for anyone. He’d be better staying at Dundee and leave for free next summer.

The problem there being that there's a good chance that now is the moment of maximum opportunity for him to make good money for the rest of his career.

[flash]

I think you are correct but I do wonder who Hibs see as their plan b or c? I wonder who else has a similar profile to McCowan.

Maybe this is where our access to the Black Knights will come up trumps?

[greenlex]

We won’t get him till after we play them later in the month.

[flash]

We won’t get him till after we play them later in the month.

I would be amazed if we haven't either got him or moved on before then.

[GreenCastle]

We won’t get him till after we play them later in the month.

Can’t see him playing against Hibs then signing for Hibs a few days later.

[marinello59]

We won’t get him till after we play them later in the month.

Will the transfer window still be open?

[GreenCastle]

Will the transfer window still be open?

Closes end of the month.

We have 3 more leagues games (4 total in August) and 1 cup game before it closes hence why many fans wanted players in sooner and to avoid what happened last weekend.

[Eyrie]

Will the transfer window still be open?

We play them on the 24th, so there would be time.

[Allant1981]

Will the transfer window still be open?

We play them a week before I think

[marinello59]

Closes end of the month.

We have 3 more leagues games (4 total in August) and 1 cup game before it closes hence why many fans wanted players in sooner and to avoid what happened last weekend.


We play them on the 24th, so there would be time.


We play them a week before I think

Thanks. :thumbsup:

[superfurryhibby]

McGowan is a decent player but has had one really good season. Hibs can’t and won’t pay 7 figures for him. His wage expectations will match the fee. I don’t see him signing for anyone. He’d be better staying at Dundee and leave for free next summer.

Last season was the first where he made a big goalscoring impact in the top flight ( his second season in the SpFL or whatever it’s called) . He also scored at a similar level in the championship the season before.

Looking at his record, he has 46 career goals from 153 games. Not bad.

7 figures isn’t an issue, no one will pay that for him. His wages would be a good first team wage at Hibs, no doubt a lot more than he gets at Dundee.

I don’t think staying at Dundee is likely, the player wants to go. Before anyone asks, that is guesswork, but as a few have said. Clubs don’t make blind bids without agents indicating that the player will go. It would be very naive to believe otherwise.

[CentreForward]

Can just picture the scenario where we don’t get him now and then Hearts end up picking him up for free on a pre-contract in January. If he impresses today then the chances of that happening might even increase further.

[Callum_62]

Can just picture the scenario where we don’t get him now and then Hearts end up picking him up for free on a pre-contract in January. If he impresses today then the chances of that happening might even increase further.Currently striking a match to burn my season ticket

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[Springbank]

I'm 80% sure that was a doping ban that kept him out the game for a year right?!?

That reminds me of the great Frank Drebin quote from "Police Squad"

"The doctors give him a 50% chance of living.
Though there's only a 10% chance of that"