Summer transfer thread 2024/25

[easty]

True but I’d rather have a back up that’s the required quality of a back up who can come on and doesn’t seem to effect the defence as a whole.

When rocky comes on/plays we seem nervous. The guys a bombscare

I totally agree, but unless someone comes in to sign Rocky, we have to accept he’ll be the backup.

[A Hi-Bee]

"When rocky comes on/plays we seem nervous. The guys a bombscare"

Still trying to work out what this means. is it some reference to playing soldiers or something.
:confused:

[Stuart93]

"When rocky comes on/plays we seem nervous. The guys a bombscare"

Still trying to work out what this means. is it some reference to playing soldiers or something.
:confused:

What are you on about

You’re the only poster who’ll not understand what that means

[Blaster]

What are you on about

You’re the only poster who’ll not understand what that means

I understood what you meant and completely agree

[inglisavhibs]

I totally agree, but unless someone comes in to sign Rocky, we have to accept he’ll be the backup.
Rocky will play plenty games this season. He played plenty really good games last season, often the toughest ones. Hearts at Tynecastle and Rangers at home spring to mind. Of course he makes mistakes, what centre half doesn't but too many on here have made their minds up before a ball is kicked.

[Donegal Hibby]

I think Rocky comes in for a lot of criticism , some of it fair but a lot of it's not . Decent player to have in our squad IMO.

[hibee1875]

Just needs to learn to time his jumps better. Then he’ll be a perfectly fine CB at this level

[McGruber]

I think Rocky comes in for a lot of criticism , some of it fair but a lot of it's not . Decent player to have in our squad IMO.

Agree with you here.

[Since452]

If Rocky is our back up defender we're doing very well. I suspect he'll be moved on as he's better than that.

[blackpoolhibs]

Rocky will play plenty games this season. He played plenty really good games last season, often the toughest ones. Hearts at Tynecastle and Rangers at home spring to mind. Of course he makes mistakes, what centre half doesn't but too many on here have made their minds up before a ball is kicked.

I've made my mind up, you are correct. I liked Rocky, could see he was raw but liked his aggression and pace.

I've since again made my mind up he's woefully short of the quality needed, he's not improved, he still makes the same mistakes, cant really head a ball properly and his distribution is average to poor.

I hoped he'd improve, he's not. I like Ekpetata, seen a fair bit of him at Blackpool and he's an improvement, a good no nonsence centre half who i believe will be good in our league.

Never seen Ohora until he signed, so not sure how good he will be but he really needs to be better than Rocky, The other option Harbottle wouldnt get a game for Leith Athletic.:rolleyes:
We are still weak at full back both sides, and our midfield wont be good enough as it stands to stop teams getting at our defence.

Which will cause us to lose goals similar to what we've seen over the last few years, in short we need better players in, in numerous positions.

[andrew70]

Rocky is completely fine as back up. Has a brain fart every now and again but the criticism he gets is completely unwarranted. Less minutes, less chance for that brain fart to occur

He will hardly play in any case but what I would say is we could get a completely adequate back up for half the money so if there’s a deal to be done it may be worth looking at.

Excited to see Warren O’Hora and big Marv defend our box this season.

[McGruber]

I think we’re better placed at the moment.

Even without new attacking players (which we’ll definitely get) I fancy us to be top 6.

Its conceding less goals that will see us picking up more points.

Admire the optimism and hope you are right. Hard to see it personally though do think we'll improve with the way Gray will set the team up and have us playing notwithstanding the personnel. Obviously has the assumption that the CB's and keeper are upgrades which will be put to the test. Early signs are good though.

Considering, from the team that finished last season (players involved in first team) we go into this as we were.... plus O'Hora, Ekpiteta, Bursik...... minus Marshall, Hanlon, Fish, Stevenson, Triantis, Marcondes, Myziane, ALF & with Youan looking like he is off. . Tough to say we are going into it in a stronger place. Confident there will be new recruits but looks like we go into the first game of the season knowing that if Vente happens to pick up an injury we have no centre forward available at the club.. That's a bit brutal

[easty]

Rocky will play plenty games this season. He played plenty really good games last season, often the toughest ones. Hearts at Tynecastle and Rangers at home spring to mind. Of course he makes mistakes, what centre half doesn't but too many on here have made their minds up before a ball is kicked.

I’ve seen plenty balls kicked, headers missed, and runs not tracked to make my mind up.

Nobody is saying players don’t make mistakes, but you give them leeway when the good outweighs the bad. With Rocky it hasn’t.

[AlbertK86]

Just needs to learn to time his jumps better. Then he’ll be a perfectly fine CB at this level

And stop being naive enough to let Shankland and the likes nudge him out the way as he jumps


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[SHODAN]

Is the going to be a signing today don't want have the game no player the sign

[NC1875]

Well almost another week gone and no additions.

This due diligence on the “right” players is taking some amount of time.

Meanwhile, our biggest rivals have bolstered there squad with yet another signing on the back of a season finishing 3rd.

🤔

[H18 SFR]

Well almost another week gone and no additions.

This due diligence on the “right” players is taking some amount of time.

Meanwhile, our biggest rivals have bolstered there squad with yet another signing on the back of a season finishing 3rd.

🤔

We are clearly struggling to get players in, you wonder if the due diligence being carried out is by prospective signings ruling us out based on the fact we have been all over the place as a club for a good few seasons now.

If you were Joe Bloggs who had Hibs and A.N. Other FC in for you, both paying the same money but A.N. Other FC are in a much more stable position with an established manager in place, who are you signing for?

[Donegal Hibby]

One of the things about Rocky last season imo is he was getting dragged all over the backline in attempts to cover players being caught out of position.

There were many , many times this happened . The St Johnstone game was a prime example (1:25 in) after Fish loses Possession , our RB is caught out of position and Rocky has to cover .

You'd think in knowing that they have an absolute speed merchant that playing with two attacking fullbacks while playing a high line and after nearly getting caught out already , we would change something? , but no .....

We are eventually caught out to high up after Newell loses possession and rather than it being the RB , it's LB this time who's caught out of position ( 2: 40 ) .

https://youtu.be/cdSPSBfp2Eo?si=4MCVZXQaFJh4ZfRl

Rocky has a mistake in him there's no question about that though I expect us to be more organised , less gung-ho under Gray than our previous manager which will hopefully beneficial to Rocky when he plays , in he's not getting dragged all over the shop .

[Hibernian Verse]

Well almost another week gone and no additions.

This due diligence on the “right” players is taking some amount of time.

Meanwhile, our biggest rivals have bolstered there squad with yet another signing on the back of a season finishing 3rd.

🤔

Hearts are a much easier sell to players. Euro Group Stages and a strong league showing to come no doubt.

[NC1875]

We are clearly struggling to get players in, you wonder if the due diligence being carried out is by prospective signings ruling us out based on the fact we have been all over the place as a club for a good few seasons now.

If you were Joe Bloggs who had Hibs and A.N. Other FC in for you, both paying the same money but A.N. Other FC are in a much more stable position with an established manager in place, who are you signing for?

Yeah it’s starting to look that way. I think we’re well down the line of potential signings and now on option umber 8 or 9. And we’ll end up with some young laddies on loan. Worth the wait!

Another negative of Gray being given the job as well imo. From the outside looking in, it has disaster written all over it and players are probably wondering if he’ll be here in 6 months.

Ben Kensell “Game changing Investment” 👏🏼

[we are hibs]

And stop being naive enough to let Shankland and the likes nudge him out the way as he jumps


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[greenpaper55]

Yeah it’s starting to look that way. I think we’re well down the line of potential signings and now on option umber 8 or 9. And we’ll end up with some young laddies on loan. Worth the wait!

Another negative of Gray being given the job as well imo. From the outside looking in, it has disaster written all over it and players are probably wondering if he’ll be here in 6 months.

Ben Kensell “Game changing Investment” 👏🏼

Thats the spirit ! I know Kelty beat us but Hearts got three stuffed past them by the mighty Fleetwood and beaten by Leyton Orient so maybe all is not well with them either ? Give the man a chance for gods sake

[easty]

One of the things about Rocky last season imo is he was getting dragged all over the backline in attempts to cover players being caught out of position.

There were many , many times this happened . The St Johnstone game was a prime example (1:25 in) after Fish loses Possession , our RB is caught out of position and Rocky has to cover .

You'd think in knowing that they have an absolute speed merchant that playing with two attacking fullbacks while playing a high line and after nearly getting caught out already , we would change something? , but no .....

We are eventually caught out to high up after Newell loses possession and rather than it being the RB , it's LB this time who's caught out of position ( 2: 40 ) .

https://youtu.be/cdSPSBfp2Eo?si=4MCVZXQaFJh4ZfRl

Rocky has a mistake in him there's no question about that though I expect us to be more organised , less gung-ho under Gray than our previous manager which will hopefully beneficial to Rocky when he plays , in he's not getting dragged all over the shop .

I cannae believe you’re still trying to pin this on Newell 😂

[GreenPJ]

Yeah it’s starting to look that way. I think we’re well down the line of potential signings and now on option umber 8 or 9. And we’ll end up with some young laddies on loan. Worth the wait!

Another negative of Gray being given the job as well imo. From the outside looking in, it has disaster written all over it and players are probably wondering if he’ll be here in 6 months.

Ben Kensell “Game changing Investment” 👏🏼

Talking about 'fans' talking ourselves down. As everything in society seems to be these days everything is either brilliant or its a disaster. The reality is Gray is ultimately unknown as to how he will pan out to be manager. The negative is he doesn't have a lot of direct experience but he has coached under a number of different managers in trying times and you always learn more when things haven't gone well. His tempo of play is quicker than the previous 3 incumbents and he also knows the club.

Perhaps we should stop consistently talking ourselves and the club down and try the 'upward spiral' and "support the club, players, coaching staff".

[Shrekko]

Just needs to learn to time his jumps better. Then he’ll be a perfectly fine CB at this level

Not being able to time his jumps is quite a major flaw for a centre-half.

It's particularly noticeable when he's in the opposition box for corners- never seen such a tank of a man look less of a threat at set pieces....

Just too many flaws despite the 'raw attributes'.

[Hibernian Verse]

Talking about 'fans' talking ourselves down. As everything in society seems to be these days everything is either brilliant or its a disaster. The reality is Gray is ultimately unknown as to how he will pan out to be manager. The negative is he doesn't have a lot of direct experience but he has coached under a number of different managers in trying times and you always learn more when things haven't gone well. His tempo of play is quicker than the previous 3 incumbents and he also knows the club.

Perhaps we should stop consistently talking ourselves and the club down and try the 'upward spiral' and "support the club, players, coaching staff".

A win on Sunday and everything will be rosy again, it's the way of the world now as you say.

[BoomtownHibees]

One of the things about Rocky last season imo is he was getting dragged all over the backline in attempts to cover players being caught out of position.

There were many , many times this happened . The St Johnstone game was a prime example (1:25 in) after Fish loses Possession , our RB is caught out of position and Rocky has to cover .

You'd think in knowing that they have an absolute speed merchant that playing with two attacking fullbacks while playing a high line and after nearly getting caught out already , we would change something? , but no .....

We are eventually caught out to high up after Newell loses possession and rather than it being the RB , it's LB this time who's caught out of position ( 2: 40 ) .

https://youtu.be/cdSPSBfp2Eo?si=4MCVZXQaFJh4ZfRl

Rocky has a mistake in him there's no question about that though I expect us to be more organised , less gung-ho under Gray than our previous manager which will hopefully beneficial to Rocky when he plays , in he's not getting dragged all over the shop .

Surely no at the stage of blaming other players for how bad Rocky is?

[NC1875]

Talking about 'fans' talking ourselves down. As everything in society seems to be these days everything is either brilliant or its a disaster. The reality is Gray is ultimately unknown as to how he will pan out to be manager. The negative is he doesn't have a lot of direct experience but he has coached under a number of different managers in trying times and you always learn more when things haven't gone well. His tempo of play is quicker than the previous 3 incumbents and he also knows the club.

Perhaps we should stop consistently talking ourselves and the club down and try the 'upward spiral' and "support the club, players, coaching staff".

It’s not me who thinks that.

It’s the majority of people I know that support other teams think we’re a mess and Gray won’t last the season. If they think that, potential signings and agents probably think the same.

The waiting for the right players argument is a load of nonsense. There has to be a reason we’ve signed no one and are worse off than last season.

As per the end of my last post. Game changing investment we were told.

Just more utter drivel from Ben Kensell and those running the club.

[7Hero]

Rocky will play plenty games this season. He played plenty really good games last season, often the toughest ones. Hearts at Tynecastle and Rangers at home spring to mind. Of course he makes mistakes, what centre half doesn't but too many on here have made their minds up before a ball is kicked.
Most people have made there mind up as they have seen kick a ball plenty..

[Donegal Hibby]

I cannae believe you’re still trying to pin this on Newell 😂

He did giveaway the ball though just like Fish did in the earlier one we were nearly caught out in too . Looking back on it now our tactics in that game like many others was naive/ amateurish to say the least , with a host of individual mistakes .

Our fullbacks were IMO a massive part of the problem last year but I think for some it's much easier to point the finger of blame at Rocky for everything rather than look at the bigger picture...😉

[Jones28]

We are clearly struggling to get players in, you wonder if the due diligence being carried out is by prospective signings ruling us out based on the fact we have been all over the place as a club for a good few seasons now.

If you were Joe Bloggs who had Hibs and A.N. Other FC in for you, both paying the same money but A.N. Other FC are in a much more stable position with an established manager in place, who are you signing for?

If you listen to the manager its about getting the right people, not any old player to boost numbers.

Previous posts have alluded to being close to making signings but goalposts being moved and the club walking away - if this is true then the club are correct in their approach IMO, there's no player bigger than the club.

I'll re-assess at the end of the window, hopefully we get a couple in before the St Mirren game but that fact is that there's a month left of the window and the club are working hard to get signings over the line.

[Donegal Hibby]

Surely no at the stage of blaming other players for how bad Rocky is?

The St Johnstone game imo is evidence enough that tactically we got it wrong and there was more than Rocky responsible in getting caught out of position and costing us goals etc ..

[B.H.F.C]

If you listen to the manager its about getting the right people, not any old player to boost numbers.


Keep reading this and it isn’t necessarily untrue but do they ever say anything different? Pretty much every manager at every club comes out with this during every window. It means very little. I don’t think the trouble we currently appear to be having getting players in is all down to waiting on the right person.

[Gordy M]

Keep reading this and it isn’t necessarily untrue but do they ever say anything different? Pretty much every manager at every club comes out with this during every window. It means very little. I don’t think the trouble we currently appear to be having getting players in is all down to waiting on the right person.
I agree with you to an extent, however in the past, we have then panicked and just ended up signing players who werent up to it. Im hoping that we have learned our lesson and are only going to sign players than will improve us.....well thats my hope.

[nonshinyfinish]

He did giveaway the ball though

80 yards from our goal

[Donegal Hibby]

80 yards from our goal
True though when your playing a high line , numerous players pushing forward and out of position , it's not exactly the best thing to happen in giving the ball away even if it is 80 yards from goal , no ?

[nonshinyfinish]

True though when your playing a high line , numerous players pushing forward and out of position , it's not exactly the best thing to happen in giving the ball away even if it is 80 yards from goal , no ?

Yes, the best thing would be to stick it in the top corner.

[Blurhibee]

Make a new thread if you want to talk about rocky

[Jones28]

Keep reading this and it isn’t necessarily untrue but do they ever say anything different? Pretty much every manager at every club comes out with this during every window. It means very little. I don’t think the trouble we currently appear to be having getting players in is all down to waiting on the right person.

I don't disagree at all, but I do think the club are doing their best to get players in and if it means not being held to ransom then surely thats a good thing?

Every player has a price and the club won't pay over the odds.

[B.H.F.C]

I don't disagree at all, but I do think the club are doing their best to get players in and if it means not being held to ransom then surely thats a good thing?

Every player has a price and the club won't pay over the odds.

Suppose there is always a point where you have to make a call but, as with anything, there will be times where you probably have to pay a bit more than you want to. The more the window goes on, the power will start to flip in that regard as well.

[Donegal Hibby]

Yes, the best thing would be to stick it in the top corner.

Absolutely 👍

[theonlywayisup]

I don't disagree at all, but I do think the club are doing their best to get players in and if it means not being held to ransom then surely thats a good thing?

Every player has a price and the club won't pay over the odds.

I think you are right, but I also think we have to move players out before we look to recruit. The negative mind thinks we're unlikely to see much more incoming players as I can't see many looking to take Harbottle, Jair, JDH etc off our hands.

Theonlywayisup! Maybe not this season, unfortunately.

[GreenPJ]

It’s not me who thinks that.

It’s the majority of people I know that support other teams think we’re a mess and Gray won’t last the season. If they think that, potential signings and agents probably think the same.

The waiting for the right players argument is a load of nonsense. There has to be a reason we’ve signed no one and are worse off than last season.

As per the end of my last post. Game changing investment we were told.

Just more utter drivel from Ben Kensell and those running the club.

Players are used to manager's changing and even when the manager is under pressure they still sign for clubs due to either playing time opportunity, cash, location, combination of all of the above. Gray is not under pressure due to performances or league position, hopefully he won't be. I honestly don't think that attracting players is the issue I think its more the fact that we aren't opening the wallet - not sure if that is because they are trying to sort out the squad outs first or they are trying to address overspend in some other areas.

To be honest I don't care what fans of other teams think of Hibs I care as to what we do on the park.

[Stuart93]

I’m not buying this players/agents holding the club to ransom and we’re moving on.

If that was the case hardly any clubs would bring players in. It’s all part of negotiating

[Gordy M]

I’m not buying this players/agents holding the club to ransom and we’re moving on.

If that was the case hardly any clubs would bring players in. It’s all part of negotiating

So what is it then? Because if its not that, you are basically saying we are actively NOT trying to sign players? Surely you dont believe that?

[bingo70]

I’m not buying this players/agents holding the club to ransom and we’re moving on.

If that was the case hardly any clubs would bring players in. It’s all part of negotiating

Why do you think we’re not signing anyone?

I don’t actually mean that in an arsey way, genuinely curious as to what people are thinking is going on?

My thinking is there are problems behind the scenes with this Black knights partnership and we are keeping money back in case of emergency as we won’t be getting any more from them in a hurry. We will have had targets but until this matter with the BK’s is resolved we can’t afford them so we are scrambling about looking for people on our doorstep the coaching staff and Mackay are familiar with to plug short term gaps.

[Stuart93]

So what is it then? Because if its not that, you are basically saying we are actively NOT trying to sign players? Surely you dont believe that?

I believe we are trying but I genuinely think we’ve been totally underprepared again as usual.

Your CEO can’t be coming out talking about extra investment etc etc and we end up in a position where’s the a number of key areas still lacking despite our first league game being this weekend.

We seen it last season where an extra solitary point would’ve been enough for top 6 so every point counts.

The work needing done on the squad was vast before the summer came and we’re nowhere near ready.

[500miles]

The theory about waiting for the "right players " is given credence by the fact we needed Swansea to sign a new striker to get Mykola.

Same with Hoillet if we aren't signing him until he's recovered and can pass a fitness test.

[Stuart93]

Why do you think we’re not signing anyone?

I don’t actually mean that in an arsey way, genuinely curious as to what people are thinking is going on?

My thinking is there are problems behind the scenes with this Black knights partnership and we are keeping money back in case of emergency as we won’t be getting any more from them in a hurry. We will have had targets but until this matter with the BK’s is resolved we can’t afford them so we are scrambling about looking for people on our doorstep the coaching staff and Mackay are familiar with to plug short term gaps.

Scrambling is a good word to describe where I think we are.

The CEO brought in this partnership, if this summer window is a disaster because BK are withholding funds due to a falling out then again that should be on Kensell’s head.

None of that is the fans fault yet it’ll be the fans that suffer because of it

[CapitalGreen]

I’m not buying this players/agents holding the club to ransom and we’re moving on.

If that was the case hardly any clubs would bring players in. It’s all part of negotiating

It doesn’t really matter if you buy it or not. There is plenty evidence though that we’ve have been taken for a ride by agents/clubs in terms of fees and wages paid for mediocre players.

[GloryGlory]

The theory about waiting for the "right players " is given credence by the fact we needed Swansea to sign a new striker to get Mykola.

Same with Hoillet if we aren't signing him until he's recovered and can pass a fitness test.

Have we signed Mykola?

[BoomtownHibees]

The theory about waiting for the "right players " is given credence by the fact we needed Swansea to sign a new striker to get Mykola.

Same with Hoillet if we aren't signing him until he's recovered and can pass a fitness test.

Can maybe say that when we’ve actually signed them

[Stuart93]

It doesn’t really matter if you buy it or not. There is plenty evidence though that we’ve have been taken for a ride by agents/clubs in terms of fees and wages paid for mediocre players.

Yep and those who were “taken for a ride” are still at the club and still have an input in recruitment.

Therein lies part of the problem.

[Ronniekirk]

Have we signed Mykola?
No

[MikeyS]

Christ you've sent up the bat signal now..

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Rabbit punch mention incoming......:wink:

[The Modfather]

The theory about waiting for the "right players " is given credence by the fact we needed Swansea to sign a new striker to get Mykola.

Same with Hoillet if we aren't signing him until he's recovered and can pass a fitness test.

Is there not a whole wide world of players out there? Was one of the selling points about the Black Knights access to their scouting network. It would be utterly depressing if we’re going into the league season, and less than a month away from the window closing, waiting on the fitness of a 34 year old who was at Aberdeen last season and a former striker who is unlikely to be match fit whenever he does sign.

I suspect having little to no budget left is probably the main reason for our lack of activity.

[hibeerealist]

Scrambling is a good word to describe where I think we are.

The CEO brought in this partnership, if this summer window is a disaster because BK are withholding funds due to a falling out then again that should be on Kensell’s head.

None of that is the fans fault yet it’ll be the fans that suffer because of it


Interesting point Stuart, however I am not too sure that B Kensell caused this it seems more like IG has picked a fight and flexed his muscles (I know :greengrin). IF there has been a fall out it is more likely IG caused it than BK, also it is unlikely that BK has any control over IG.

The cannon may be loose and about to implode

[Gordy M]

Yep and those who were “taken for a ride” are still at the club and still have an input in recruitment.

Therein lies part of the problem.

But this is the issue. You dont want them to be involved and sign all sorts and taken for a ride by agents.....and now that doesnt seem to be the way we are going forward and now we are moaning we arent signing anyone? I know there is a middle ground and im sure that will be what we see.....decent players who improve the squad/team.

[MikeyS]

The St Johnstone game imo is evidence enough that tactically we got it wrong and there was more than Rocky responsible in getting caught out of position and costing us goals etc ..

There hasn't been a game of football played since the game was invented when players haven't been caught out of position. It's going to happen multiple times per game for one reason or another.

What isn't so common and is exactky why Rocky has his bombscare tag is the nutmegging of himself with "defensive" headers, mistiming jumps and lazy passing which seem to create a real nervousness amongst his team mates.

[Stuart93]

But this is the issue. You dont want them to be involved and sign all sorts and taken for a ride by agents.....and now that doesnt seem to be the way we are going forward and now we are moaning we arent signing anyone? I know there is a middle ground and im sure that will be what we see.....decent players who improve the squad/team.

I don’t want them at the club but that’s a different argument altogether.

I hope that’s the case but the season starts in 2 days and we’re ill equipped for it

[Centre Hawf]

Rocky will be here this season as our third/fourth choice cb as no one will give him the wages we have, his deals end next summer and he'll be gone then. Until then he gets my support in every game he does play.

[Jones28]

I think you are right, but I also think we have to move players out before we look to recruit. The negative mind thinks we're unlikely to see much more incoming players as I can't see many looking to take Harbottle, Jair, JDH etc off our hands.

Theonlywayisup! Maybe not this season, unfortunately.

Don't disagree we need to shunt some players on. I still think there's a place for Tavares here (I'm in the minority I accept) and a fit JDH could be a good asset for us.

Harbottle, Kenneh and Delfierre I think could be moved on or put out on loan at least.

IIRC Malky said openly that next year will be the big churn of players where we can clear the decks and re-set, so it shouldn't really be a massive surprise that we haven't made 12 signings.

[CapitalGreen]

Yep and those who were “taken for a ride” are still at the club and still have an input in recruitment.

Therein lies part of the problem.

You said you didn’t buy it was happening, now you are saying it’s a problem.

[B.H.F.C]

Don't disagree we need to shunt some players on. I still think there's a place for Tavares here (I'm in the minority I accept) and a fit JDH could be a good asset for us.

Harbottle, Kenneh and Delfierre I think could be moved on or put out on loan at least.

IIRC Malky said openly that next year will be the big churn of players where we can clear the decks and re-set, so it shouldn't really be a massive surprise that we haven't made 12 signings.

Can only speak for myself but I never really expected a dozen signings or anything like that. Was obvious we were going to need to make space in the squad.

I thought, with the investment, we’d be able to go and get two or three really decent players on top of the type of players we’ve got so far. That to me, would make a huge difference. It’s fairly obvious we’re not going to be doing anything terribly different now. So disappointing after what was being said a few months back.

[Stuart93]

You said you didn’t buy it was happening, now you are saying it’s a problem.

I don’t feel it’s happening this summer no, this summers more to do with being underprepared as I’ve said in an earlier post.

But it’s been a problem over the last few summers when you see the dross we’ve signed yet there’s been no repercussions for those who were involved.

[easty]

He did giveaway the ball though just like Fish did in the earlier one we were nearly caught out in too . Looking back on it now our tactics in that game like many others was naive/ amateurish to say the least , with a host of individual mistakes .

Our fullbacks were IMO a massive part of the problem last year but I think for some it's much easier to point the finger of blame at Rocky for everything rather than look at the bigger picture...😉

With regards to specifically the St Johnstone goal you’re trying to shift the blame off him for, which you brought up, Newell lost the ball on the edge of their box. Rocky and Triantis are back, against one St Johnstone forward. They don’t read the position or the pass anywhere near good enough, and it’s on Rockys side, so it’s on him. The full backs don’t need to be back when we’re already 2 on 1 back there.

[MikeyS]

With regards to specifically the St Johnstone goal you’re trying to shift the blame off him for, which you brought up, Newell lost the ball on the edge of their box. Rocky and Triantis are back, against one St Johnstone forward. They don’t read the position or the pass anywhere near good enough, and it’s on Rockys side, so it’s on him. The full backs don’t need to be back when we’re already 2 on 1 back there.

You are p*ssing in the wind here, mate!

[JohnM1875]

Thread desperately needs a signing, 'mon Hibs eh!

[Hibs3-2]

Todays the day.

[flash]

Todays the day.

You said that yesterday.

[Hibs3-2]

You said that yesterday.

Was done yesterday. Announced today. Good things come to those that wait😉

[Stuart93]

Thread desperately needs a signing, 'mon Hibs eh!

It really does.

I do

[Unseen work]

Was done yesterday. Announced today. Good things come to those that wait😉

How good we talking 👀

[Dr What If?]

Can only speak for myself but I never really expected a dozen signings or anything like that. Was obvious we were going to need to make space in the squad.

I thought, with the investment, we’d be able to go and get two or three really decent players on top of the type of players we’ve got so far. That to me, would make a huge difference. It’s fairly obvious we’re not going to be doing anything terribly different now. So disappointing after what was being said a few months back.
Didn't Foley say at the beginning that it wouldn't take that much money to make Hibs the third force? I read that as not a lot of money to him but mega bucks in the context of Scottish football. It seems like we are fishing in the same pond as we always have though, and we still need to move a bulk of players who came from that same pond in the first place. Disappointed but not surprised I suppose, still time for it to change and would love it to see people point fingers and laugh at me after we've signed half the Scotland team :-)

[Ronniekirk]

Todays the day.
Today is Friday are we keeping the player under wraps to surprise st Mirren

[Gmack7]

Was done yesterday. Announced today. Good things come to those that wait😉

Did you not say 2 were signed on Wednesday, you'll be right if you keep saying it

[hibeerealist]

Is BK, Ben or the Black Knights?


Ben :aok:

[04Sauzee]

Was done yesterday. Announced today. Good things come to those that wait😉

1?
2?
Hoilet?

[bod]

Today is Friday are we keeping the player under wraps to surprise st Mirren

Maybe the new signing will be our mascots tomorrow? That's how much under wraps were keeping them 😆

[LunasBoots]

1?
2?
Hoilet?

Apparently still working in Hornby, Myko and hoilet

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

How good we talking 👀

It’s a replacement for Jair in case he gets injured.

[Stuart93]

Apparently still working in Hornby, Myko and hoilet

Hornby?

Hopefully not Fraser Hornby

[Aldo]

Hornby?

Hopefully not Fraser Hornby

That would send you right over off rails Stuart! 🫣

PS I’ll get ma coat…….

[Unseen work]

Hornby?

Hopefully not Fraser Hornby

I would have agreed a couple of years ago but done really well in Belgium a which lead to a move to the bundesliga.

[JohnM1875]

Hornby?

Hopefully not Fraser Hornby

The very one.

Played seven times in the Bundesliga last season. Didn't score mind you, but looked to be playing pretty consistently before missing 25 games with an injury.

[flash]

Hornby?

Hopefully not Fraser Hornby

Brendan Hornby.

[04Sauzee]

Hornby?

Hopefully not Fraser Hornby

I doubt it's Nick

[LunasBoots]

Hornby?

Hopefully not Fraser Hornby

Yeah, I'm not too keen but if the club think he's good enough then fair enough. Wasn't good enough at Aberdeen but has maybe matured a bit now..

[Stuart93]

I would have agreed a couple of years ago but done really well in Belgium a which lead to a move to the bundesliga.

Ah I didn’t realise that. Maybe should’ve done a bit more digging.

Maybe matured into a player aye

[Stuart93]

That would send you right over off rails Stuart! 🫣

PS I’ll get ma coat…….

I’m not jumping on that train Aldo we’ll get in bother

[Aldo]

I’m not jumping on that train Aldo we’ll get in bother

[emoji2960]

[Silky]

With regards to specifically the St Johnstone goal you’re trying to shift the blame off him for, which you brought up, Newell lost the ball on the edge of their box. Rocky and Triantis are back, against one St Johnstone forward. They don’t read the position or the pass anywhere near good enough, and it’s on Rockys side, so it’s on him. The full backs don’t need to be back when we’re already 2 on 1 back there.

Perhaps Newell could have done better in possession? He's lost it at the edge of the opposition's box. Where were our forwards and midfield? The ball has travelled past god knows how many of his team mates before it got to Rocky. He probaly could have done better, yes, but so could his team mates. Team game!

[Centre Hawf]

Perhaps Newell could have done better in possession? He's lost it at the edge of the opposition's box. Where were our forwards and midfield? The ball has travelled past god knows how many of his team mates before it got to Rocky. He probaly could have done better, yes, but so could his team mates. Team game!


I always felt that goal was Triantis' fault first and foremost. He was so far deep he played the St Johnstone player onside down Rocky's side, others make mistakes but that is the crucial one for me. I liked Triantis in CDM but whoever thought that guy was a centre back need their head examined as I genuinely think he's one of the worst I've seen in that position for a while at Hibs. His reading was diabolical and was no surprise to see him chucked out of that position fairly quickly.

[TrinityHFC]

You said that yesterday.

As I said the other day we are also still waiting on the midfielder the poster had said last year was signed and was going straight into the next squad. Perhaps we've now found him?

[Ronniekirk]

I doubt it's Nick
You had me at Fever Pitch there lol

[Donegal Hibby]

Perhaps Newell could have done better in possession? He's lost it at the edge of the opposition's box. Where were our forwards and midfield? The ball has travelled past god knows how many of his team mates before it got to Rocky. He probaly could have done better, yes, but so could his team mates. Team game!

There was a lot wrong with losing that goal , from we were tactically naive to a number of players caught out of position, mistakes were made by quite a few players . You are indeed spot on , in saying it's a team game though it seems to be easier for some to blame one player rather than to look at it fairly and say as a team we got it badly wrong.

[Joe6-2]

And still fk all

[Donegal Hibby]

Yeah, I'm not too keen but if the club think he's good enough then fair enough. Wasn't good enough at Aberdeen but has maybe matured a bit now..

I read the thread on him on the dons forum . He must have been awful when he was there , watched this then ....

https://youtu.be/k939bmGjaGI?si=walwGGkoGq4dx4d1

[SteveHFC]

And still fk all

Is it time to start panicking?

[Joe6-2]

Is it time to start panicking?

Beginning too 🤪

[Centre Hawf]

I read the thread on him on the dons forum . He must have been awful when he was there , watched this then ....

https://youtu.be/k939bmGjaGI?si=walwGGkoGq4dx4d1

I remember him not being great at Aberdeen but he was about 19/20 at the time and probably wasn't ready to play at this level yet, he was effectively the same age and less experienced than Melkersen in terms of senior games and they thrusted him into the side to play with a selfish Kamberi and hope it worked.

On the whole I'm okay with signing him if we think he's matured well in the last 3.5 years since then as I haven't watched him play.

[Exuberance1875]

Would much rather Myko over Hornby

[JohnM1875]

Would much rather Myko over Hornby

Surely we’re not working to bring both in as someone suggested earlier on? Or if we are, Vente must be on the way out.

[Callum_62]

I doubt we could afford to sign Hornby permanently https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240802/dfa5bca87a61ceecc0e902d0a05eb1ba.jpg

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[Joe6-2]

Surely we’re not working to bring both in as someone suggested earlier on? Or if we are, Vente must be on the way out.

Wish somebody was on the bloody way in

[JohnM1875]

Wish somebody was on the bloody way in

Same. Still clinging on to the hope of an announcement later tonight

[Joe6-2]

Same. Still clinging on to the hope of an announcement later tonight

What’s the chances of that, feeling very negative just now

[Lago]

Same. Still clinging on to the hope of an announcement later tonight
I've pretty much lost all interest to be honest.

[Keepthefaith]

I've pretty much lost all interest to be honest.

How ironic that you're saying that on this thread at 4.30 in the afternoon! Honestly our support never cease to amaze me 🤣

[bingo70]

Is it time to start panicking?

FWIW I’m starting to panic about what’s going on behind the scenes that’s stopping us from being able to buy people.

I’m not overly bothered about what’s on the park, I think last season in particular showed that a well organised team in this league can do alright, even if the players aren’t brilliant, add to that we do actually still have some decent attacking players.

Something must be going on upstairs though to limit our transfer activity, I’m certainly not believing the story about good players not becoming available until the end of the window.

[JohnM1875]

FWIW I’m starting to panic about what’s going on behind the scenes that’s stopping us from being able to buy people.

I’m not overly bothered about what’s on the park, I think last season in particular showed that a well organised team in this league can do alright, even if the players aren’t brilliant, add to that we do actually still have some decent attacking players.

Something must be going on upstairs though to limit our transfer activity, I’m certainly not believing the story about good players not becoming available until the end of the window.

Mainly because it's utter pish!

Totally agree though, I'm feeling the same.

[SteveHFC]

FWIW I’m starting to panic about what’s going on behind the scenes that’s stopping us from being able to buy people.

I’m not overly bothered about what’s on the park, I think last season in particular showed that a well organised team in this league can do alright, even if the players aren’t brilliant, add to that we do actually still have some decent attacking players.

Something must be going on upstairs though to limit our transfer activity, I’m certainly not believing the story about good players not becoming available until the end of the window.

I said before it's totally unacceptable to be going into our first league game of this season with not one striker signed and with a worst squad than last season. What's going on behind the scenes.

[GreenCastle]

Anyone got a list of players out of contract in summer ?

My next question is surely we aren’t just letting these over paid players just run down contracts and leave for free in summer?

[.Sean.]

Anyone got a list of players out of contract in summer ?

My next question is surely we aren’t just letting these over paid players just run down contracts and leave for free in summer?
Well yeah, we’re hardly going to give the likes of Rocky an extension in the faint hope there’s a team stupid enough to buy him are we? It’s called cutting your losses

[ancient hibee]

Anyone got a list of players out of contract in summer ?

My next question is surely we aren’t just letting these over paid players just run down contracts and leave for free in summer?
How do we avoid that?

[Centre Hawf]

Anyone got a list of players out of contract in summer ?

My next question is surely we aren’t just letting these over paid players just run down contracts and leave for free in summer?

At this point we're likely to have to pay to get rid of some of them let alone the idea we'll get anything.

[GreenCastle]

How do we avoid that?

Sell them now (cut price?) before teams maybe take them pre-contract in Jan and free in summer ?

Surely letting them run down contract isn’t wise ?

[The Tubs]

Sell them now (cut price?) before teams maybe take them pre-contract in Jan and free in summer ?

Surely letting them run down contract isn’t wise ?

Naec**t is going to pay money unless they somehow have a storming first half of the season.

[BoomtownHibees]

Sell them now (cut price?) before teams maybe take them pre-contract in Jan and free in summer ?

Surely letting them run down contract isn’t wise ?

Who’s worth any money and who’s going to buy them?

[B.H.F.C]

Sell them now (cut price?) before teams maybe take them pre-contract in Jan and free in summer ?

Surely letting them run down contract isn’t wise ?

Giving the contracts we did in the first place was the unwise bit. Little we can do now if they are happy to sit on them.

[Berwickhibby]

Although I have renewed my season ticket, I have never felt so underwhelmed at this window and finding it hard to feel some enthusiasm for the forthcoming season.

[leith lynx]

Although I have renewed my season ticket, I have never felt so underwhelmed at this window and finding it hard to feel some enthusiasm for the forthcoming season.

Exactly my feelings as well.

[hibbydad]

Although I have renewed my season ticket, I have never felt so underwhelmed at this window and finding it hard to feel some enthusiasm for the forthcoming season.
I am in exactly the same boat as you Berwick

[Cod Boy]

It’s like they are hoping to get a positive result on Sunday and take two defeats from Celtic before bringing anyone else in

[TrinityHFC]

FWIW I’m starting to panic about what’s going on behind the scenes that’s stopping us from being able to buy people.

I’m not overly bothered about what’s on the park, I think last season in particular showed that a well organised team in this league can do alright, even if the players aren’t brilliant, add to that we do actually still have some decent attacking players.

Something must be going on upstairs though to limit our transfer activity, I’m certainly not believing the story about good players
not becoming available until the end of the window.

No one has said good players are only available at the end of the window.

[sleeping giant]

I am in exactly the same boat as you Berwick

And me. Trying not to be a drama queen about it all but ffs.
The worst of it is , part of me still hopes that we are just waiting on super quality players assessing their options. Just maybe 😅

[04Sauzee]

Celtic & QPR have expressed an interest in Liverpool left-back Owen Beck.

Celtic would prefer a permanent deal; QPR a loan. Other EFL clubs keen too.

Liverpool open to offers, but would expect valuation met if permanent. Decision on future to be made next week.

(w/@SkyAnton)

[eastmainsmsh]

Think Gordon Foley and Co are taking us for Mugs unless Gordon's relinquish control then we are in for same continuous circle unfortunately

[MWHIBBIES]

Think Gordon Foley and Co are taking us for Mugs unless Gordon's relinquish control then we are in for same continuous circle unfortunately

How is Foley taking us for mugs?

Kensell and Gordon not clever enough to take anyone for a mug. They're just **** at running the club.

[AugustaHibs]

How is Kensell still in a job.

He was acting like he’d brokered the deal of the century.

Squad is worse off than it was at the end of last season.

Talks some amount of *****.

[bingo70]

No one has said good players are only available at the end of the window.

Why have we only signed 2 outfield players then?

Gray was saying in the media yesterday the markets slow until the end of the window because of the knock on effect of the euros.

[bingo70]

How is Kensell still in a job.

He was acting like he’d brokered the deal of the century.

Squad is worse off than it was at the end of last season.

Talks some amount of *****.

I’ve defended Kensell as much as anybody but unless the transfer window improves drastically I think he will need to explain if he lied to the fans at at AGM about the deal he made or if something has changed since then. If the goalposts have moved since the deal was agreed, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for him to explain his part in it and what’s going on now.

[Ozyhibby]

I’ve defended Kensell as much as anybody but unless the transfer window improves drastically I think he will need to explain if he lied to the fans at at AGM about the deal he made or if something has changed since then. If the goalposts have moved since the deal was agreed, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for him to explain his part in it and what’s going on now.

Of course he lied. It’s time he was hounded out the club.


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[Real Emerald]

FWIW I’m starting to panic about what’s going on behind the scenes that’s stopping us from being able to buy people.

I’m not overly bothered about what’s on the park, I think last season in particular showed that a well organised team in this league can do alright, even if the players aren’t brilliant, add to that we do actually still have some decent attacking players.

Something must be going on upstairs though to limit our transfer activity, I’m certainly not believing the story about good players not becoming available until the end of the window.

I’m with you, there simply has to be something going on. We’ve known for months and months we’d be needing a striker and for seasons we need creativity in midfield. Add in the shortage at left back and lack of back up in CB it’s beyond belief we haven’t added more in all this time. I’m simply not buying the “waiting for better players” line, there’s something not quite right.

[Hibees1973]

Again, we must give MacKay credit for moving so many ineffectual players on, but there are still 5 or 6 we still have who have proved to be not good enough. It must have been a huge job, taking time, trying to persuade and cajole these guys out the door.

A forward must have been around the top of our list due to Maolida's loan coming to the end. However, it is does not look good to still have a gaping hole at the front of the first team 2 days before the start of the league season. The window has been open for some weeks now so Hibs must have missed out on numerous targets. We are paying for the club having a reputation of a revolving door of players and managers. This will put potential targets off.

A good start to the league campaign is vital for us to attract quality, starting with 3 points on Sunday. This does though depend on us having money to spend, for which there seems to be an element of doubt.

[J-C]

Giving the contracts we did in the first place was the unwise bit. Little we can do now if they are happy to sit on them.

JDH a perfect example, signs a 2 year deal and was extended after a handful of games.

[Lago]

How ironic that you're saying that on this thread at 4.30 in the afternoon! Honestly our support never cease to amaze me ��
Enlighten me as to what the time of day has to do with it, I'll make sure to post at acceptable times just for you��

[CapitalGreen]

Think organised protest is needed. This is worse than any penny pinching **** Petrie pulled. Absolutely unacceptable.

It’s really not.

[easty]

Think organised protest is needed. This is worse than any penny pinching **** Petrie pulled. Absolutely unacceptable.

I cannae tell if this is sarcasm.

Protesting for what? It’s the 2nd August, there’s plenty time to make signings.

[SHODAN]

I cannae tell if this is sarcasm.

Protesting for what? It’s the 2nd August, there’s plenty time to make signings.

Yeah, I'm deleting that. Complete hyperbole, just going off on one. Apologies.

[B.H.F.C]

I’m with you, there simply has to be something going on. We’ve known for months and months we’d be needing a striker and for seasons we need creativity in midfield. Add in the shortage at let back and lack of back up in CB it’s beyond belief we haven’t added more in all this time. I’m simply not buying the “waiting for better players” line, there’s something not quite right.

I think the waiting for the right players is a load of rubbish.

We think we are short at centre half but, in fact, we have 4. It’s just that we’re short on quality and probably need to move someone on to bring someone in. Same in midfield, there’s loads of players contracted, it’s just that in some cases they’re no very good. Up front, I find it incredible we’ve not done anything yet.

After all the excitement of the investment and talk of it being exciting and game changing (the words of the CEO) they could be doing with telling us what’s going on. Noticeable by their absence now that things don’t seem to be playing out in the exciting way we heard about.

[Alex Trager]

I’ve defended Kensell as much as anybody but unless the transfer window improves drastically I think he will need to explain if he lied to the fans at at AGM about the deal he made or if something has changed since then. If the goalposts have moved since the deal was agreed, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for him to explain his part in it and what’s going on now.
You’re a disgrace to this site to besmirch the golden quadrant.

[Ozyhibby]

I cannae tell if this is sarcasm.

Protesting for what? It’s the 2nd August, there’s plenty time to make signings.

I guess there is but a defeat on Sunday followed by two from Celtic and things could get uncomfortable.


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[Ardenttwo]

[QUOTE=hibbydad;7725314]I am in exactly the same boat as you Berwick[/QUOTE


I feel the same.

[Donegal Hibby]

I remember him not being great at Aberdeen but he was about 19/20 at the time and probably wasn't ready to play at this level yet, he was effectively the same age and less experienced than Melkersen in terms of senior games and they thrusted him into the side to play with a selfish Kamberi and hope it worked.

On the whole I'm okay with signing him if we think he's matured well in the last 3.5 years since then as I haven't watched him play.

I should have but didn't realise he was as young as that when at Aberdeen. Thought we would have signed somebody today ahead of our game Sunday.

Bound to be a couple of signings next week 🤞

[andrew70]

Although I have renewed my season ticket, I have never felt so underwhelmed at this window and finding it hard to feel some enthusiasm for the forthcoming season.

Takes a lot for you to say that I am sure.

I am still firmly in the opposite camp and believe we will come through August and wonder what the problem was in terms of players in but I hasten to add we’ve seen all this before. Let’s hope we get the right faces in.

All the best mate.

[GreenPJ]

I guess there is but a defeat on Sunday followed by two from Celtic and things could get uncomfortable.


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And if we win against St Mirren, and get something from one of the Celtic games?

[TrinityHFC]

Why have we only signed 2 outfield players then?

Gray was saying in the media yesterday the markets slow until the end of the window because of the knock on effect of the euros.

What part of that means good players are only available at the end of the window?

[Just Alf]

And me. Trying not to be a drama queen about it all but ffs.
The worst of it is , part of me still hopes that we are just waiting on super quality players assessing their options. Just maybe [emoji28]Me too!

I'm getting grumpier and grumpier by the day though

[itslegaltender]

this is increasingly looking like our board have decided to take a knee this season and clear the decks next summer. depressing.

[MWHIBBIES]

I guess there is but a defeat on Sunday followed by two from Celtic and things could get uncomfortable.


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If we win will you post something positive?

[Centre Hawf]

this is increasingly looking like our board have decided to take a knee this season and clear the decks next summer. depressing.

I don't imagine Mackay is sitting there waiting for Kenneh or JDH's contracts to run out, I'm sure him and others will be trying to find ways to get rid now and clear the decks this summer as best as possible. It's just probably proving a harder task than hoped.

[GreenCastle]

this is increasingly looking like our board have decided to take a knee this season and clear the decks next summer. depressing.

Not sure the board will last till the summer if this season ends up being a shocker.

[CentreForward]

9 new quality signings over at the PBS. The gap between the two clubs continues to grow. This window is becoming more depressing as the hours go by. Very surprised that nobody has come in this week given all the chat.

[Ringothedog]

Not sure the board will last till the summer if this season ends up being a shocker.

Who would replace them?

[CapitalGreen]

Not sure the board will last till the summer if this season ends up being a shocker.

They going to sack themselves?

[Donegal Hibby]

I guess there is but a defeat on Sunday followed by two from Celtic and things could get uncomfortable.


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You keep bringing up about us getting defeated on Sunday , while it's a hard game and that could happen we have also enough to go there and win or get a draw too . No reason why we can't ! .

The two fixtures against Celtic , it won't matter even if we have signings in for them as we will still be massive underdogs in both games .

Almost feels like some are wanting to use this as a stick to beat the club if things don't go the way they want ..

[greenpaper55]

Not sure the board will last till the summer if this season ends up being a shocker.

Are you going to buy them out ?

[LunasBoots]

9 new quality signings over at the PBS. The gap between the two clubs continues to grow. This window is becoming more depressing as the hours go by. Very surprised that nobody has come in this week given all the chat.

Must be keeping our game changing investment until the last minute 😉

[Cabbage-Patch]

Each passing day/hour that goes the silence from golden quadrant is deafening. They need to make a statement asap. Fans deserve to know the truth. I suspect we may be in a fairly dire financial situation which needs to be communicated.

[The Modfather]

I don't imagine Mackay is sitting there waiting for Kenneh or JDH's contracts to run out, I'm sure him and others will be trying to find ways to get rid now and clear the decks this summer as best as possible. It's just probably proving a harder task than hoped.

It does look like our business is dependent on moving on some of Mckirdy, Kenneth, Delfierre, JDH etc.

I can picture it now, a poor season (bottom 6, no league cup run etc) this season leading to a lower turnover. Which mitigates some of the savings made from contracts expiring in terms or wages to turnover. Expectations are then managed downward as we can’t sign a new team in one summer window and season 25/26 is the season to look forward to. A glass half empty view, hopefully some new signings improve my outlook.

[B.H.F.C]

9 new quality signings over at the PBS. The gap between the two clubs continues to grow. This window is becoming more depressing as the hours go by. Very surprised that nobody has come in this week given all the chat.

No disagreement that we’re well off them at the moment but I’m no sure they’ve made 9 quality additions either.

[JohnM1875]

It does look like our business is dependent on moving on some of Mckirdy, Kenneth, Delfierre, JDH etc.

I can picture it now, a poor season (bottom 6, no league cup run etc) this season leading to a lower turnover. Which mitigates some of the savings made from contracts expiring in terms or wages to turnover. Expectations are then managed downward as we can’t sign a new team in one summer window and season 25/26 is the season to look forward to. A glass half empty view, hopefully some new signings improve my outlook.

If we finish bottom six again it'll be absolute chaos and the board will be getting it tight, rightfully so.

I keep repeating myself and folk are probably sick of it, but the wages of three or four players shouldn't have too great an affect on this summer if the BK group deal is anywhere near as 'ground breaking' as we were led to believe. Unless, of course, there's been a fall out, which is what I think has happened.

[JammyDoidger]

This is some laugh being a Hibs fan, another new season, and another season that I honestly can't even be bothered with. Most Hibby's I speak to are the same, lost interest big time these past few years, since the Gordon's came in really and all we've done is underachieve despite having more money, crazy, only us. I'm sure getting the big sick note on loan will change our fortunes though. Not worried in the slightest!

[Hibernian Verse]

I've pretty much lost all interest to be honest.

I hope you’re being deliberately ironic

[easty]

I guess there is but a defeat on Sunday followed by two from Celtic and things could get uncomfortable.


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Anyone writing us off after 2 games against Celtc and a game away at the current St Mirren team really needs to consider whether they have unrealistic expectations as a Hibs fan.

Celtc are miles better than us, and St Mirren are a decent side just now. We’d have to be much much better to be expecting a result there. There’s no much between the 2 sides on paper, we could win, we might lose.

Performance is far more important over these 3 games for me. Are we organised, are we battling? If we are, but we lose cos we’re toothless up front, then I’ll be confident we’ll sort that out pre-window closing, and have a decent season.

[easty]

I keep repeating myself and folk are probably sick of it, but the wages of three or four players shouldn't have too great an affect on this summer if the BK group deal is anywhere near as 'ground breaking' as we were led to believe. Unless, of course, there's been a fall out, which is what I think has happened.

3 or 4 players at £5-6k a week is probably not a problem, but you’re not guaranteed quality at £6k a week, so if we’re trying to make sure we get the right players then that’s the correct thing to do.

[Centre Hawf]

It does look like our business is dependent on moving on some of Mckirdy, Kenneth, Delfierre, JDH etc.

I can picture it now, a poor season (bottom 6, no league cup run etc) this season leading to a lower turnover. Which mitigates some of the savings made from contracts expiring in terms or wages to turnover. Expectations are then managed downward as we can’t sign a new team in one summer window and season 25/26 is the season to look forward to. A glass half empty view, hopefully some new signings improve my outlook.

That will 100% be the case the last finances showed us sitting at 81% of wages to turnover (10% higher than the year before) which is utterly obscene.

Someone further up alluded to us being in murkier finances than let on and while I know nothing for sure I wouldn't be surprised if the Foley money kept us ticking more than it was to give us some sort of heavyweight transfer window we all dreamed of.

If we don't get rid of anyone major soon then do not expect anyone major in is my prediction.

[Mrimbetween]

Anyone writing us off after 2 games against Celtc and a game away at the current St Mirren team really needs to consider whether they have unrealistic expectations as a Hibs fan.

Celtc are miles better than us, and St Mirren are a decent side just now. We’d have to be much much better to be expecting a result there. There’s no much between the 2 sides on paper, we could win, we might lose.

Performance is far more important over these 3 games for me. Are we organised, are we battling? If we are, but we lose cos we’re toothless up front, then I’ll be confident we’ll sort that out pre-window closing, and have a decent season.


If that pans out there will be some saying I love SDG but he has to go >granted only by a couple as somes expectations are ridiculous

[KeithTheHibby]

9 new quality signings over at the PBS. The gap between the two clubs continues to grow. This window is becoming more depressing as the hours go by. Very surprised that nobody has come in this week given all the chat.

How do you know they are quality signings?

[Scotty Leither]

Are you going to buy them out ?

I hope somebody does, to be honest. Meantime maybe Ian Gordon could also pay off all the duffers he's signed out his own pocket?

The club is 150 years old next year, and I genuinely thought the BK's involvement would herald a whole new era at Easter Road of sustained success, which for us in the first instance would be regular European participation which was the stated aim.

Kensell really needs held to account for the utter guff he spouted about "game changing", and then there's the time he also said that money was being diverted from infrastructure to the team.

The guy says the first thing that comes into his head, and him and his mate Gordon, one half of the "Golden Quadrant" are running out of road unless they pull some rabbits out the hat in terms of decent signings in the next 3 weeks.

[Ozyhibby]

Anyone writing us off after 2 games against Celtc and a game away at the current St Mirren team really needs to consider whether they have unrealistic expectations as a Hibs fan.

Celtc are miles better than us, and St Mirren are a decent side just now. We’d have to be much much better to be expecting a result there. There’s no much between the 2 sides on paper, we could win, we might lose.

Performance is far more important over these 3 games for me. Are we organised, are we battling? If we are, but we lose cos we’re toothless up front, then I’ll be confident we’ll sort that out pre-window closing, and have a decent season.

Not writing us off, just describing the reality of the situation. The fans are not in great fettle just now as it is and three defeats won’t help that. That’s just the way it goes. Little slack will be cut that it’s Celtic.
Different if there were a load of new players in and fans could see effort and investment from the club but that’s not where we are.


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[007]

What part of that means good players are only available at the end of the window?

None of it. Some folk work themselves up into a right old tizzy and it's not even based on facts, just their owned imagined version of events.

[easty]

9 new quality signings over at the PBS. The gap between the two clubs continues to grow. This window is becoming more depressing as the hours go by. Very surprised that nobody has come in this week given all the chat.

9 quality signings 😂😂

[McD]

I should have but didn't realise he was as young as that when at Aberdeen. Thought we would have signed somebody today ahead of our game Sunday.

Bound to be a couple of signings next week 🤞



We’ve been saying that since they got back from Holland, to not have signed anyone in that period (bar a reserve keeper) is borderline negligence (not a dig at you btw DH).


I don’t blame the social media team at all, but surely someone at Hibs has the ability to read the room and have an inkling that all the Twitter, WhatsApp, etc comms are just pissing fans off when there is zero transfer news mixed in there. Or maybe the social media team are one of the few groups actually doing their job well?

[easty]

Not writing us off, just describing the reality of the situation. The fans are not in great fettle just now as it is and three defeats won’t help that. That’s just the way it goes. Little slack will be cut that it’s Celtic.
Different if there were a load of new players in and fans could see effort and investment from the club but that’s not where we are.


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If we’d signed 10 players we could still have lost all 3 games. Then it’d be complaints about wasting money on ***** players for yet another season.

[ChicoM1875]

I think we'll do better this year than we did last year, with the players we've currently got.

[Scotty Leither]

We’ve been saying that since they got back from Holland, to not have signed anyone in that period (bar a reserve keeper) is borderline negligence (not a dig at you btw DH).


I don’t blame the social media team at all, but surely someone at Hibs has the ability to read the room and have an inkling that all the Twitter, WhatsApp, etc comms are just pissing fans off when there is zero transfer news mixed in there. Or maybe the social media team are one of the few groups actually doing their job well?

I don't blame the social media team either; it's probably populated by young kids who are only doing their jobs, and don't have any inkling of the optics of the club continually pushing socials while the team are shorn of decent players and not looking in good shape for the season ahead.

They'll not be aware a large portion of the fans are pissed off, but then neither it appears does our owner and his amigo.

[Unseen work]

Are we wanting to announce it Sunday morning ala Boyle v hearts in an attempt to surprise St Mirren or something

[MWHIBBIES]

If we’d signed 10 players we could still have lost all 3 games. Then it’d be complaints about wasting money on ***** players for yet another season.

We literally did last season. Plenty signings. Lost to Motherwell, Livi and St Mirren.

[007]

I think we'll do better this year than we did last year, with the players we've currently got.

Even just getting a fairer balance of VAR decisions will go a long way to improving our points total.

[bingo70]

I think we'll do better this year than we did last year, with the players we've currently got.

I think so too.

I also think it’s ok to think that but also question what happened to the exciting summer Kensell described and whats happened/happening with the relationship with the Black knights/Bournemouth.

[Ronniekirk]

[QUOTE=hibbydad;7725314]I am in exactly the same boat as you Berwick[/QUOTE


I feel the same.
It’s beginning to feel like we are on the Titanic
Am as critical as most . Am genuinely not sure what is going on behind the scenes but it’s leading to unhealthy speculation which could easily be clarified
I console myself with the fact one blip v Kelty apart Gray has shown he can pick players motivate them and get them playing in a way that to date is getting us results
He knows he is short of quality off the bench and options up top . But still a month nearly to address that going forward
The unknown is will the Black Knights connection come good towards end of window or has some sort of rift between Gordon and Foley scupperred thst
St Mirren is a good first game to judge if our first eleven can get us something from the match
Will see what happens and then who we sign next week
If the plates are still spinning then ma heid will be as well

[ChicoM1875]

Even just getting a fairer balance of VAR decisions will go a long way to improving our points total.

Good point. There was a run of about 5 games (maybe more) when VAR screwed us royally.

[kentao]

It does look like our business is dependent on moving on some of Mckirdy, Kenneth, Delfierre, JDH etc.

I can picture it now, a poor season (bottom 6, no league cup run etc) this season leading to a lower turnover. Which mitigates some of the savings made from contracts expiring in terms or wages to turnover. Expectations are then managed downward as we can’t sign a new team in one summer window and season 25/26 is the season to look forward to. A glass half empty view, hopefully some new signings improve my outlook.

Maybe Ian Murray was right after his interview he states Hibs finances aren't as good as what you would expect with the recent investment. I have a feeling no transfer fees with be paid unless we manage to get money for Youan / others.

[ChicoM1875]

I think so too.

I also think it’s ok to think that but also question what happened to the exciting summer Kensell described and whats happened/happening with the relationship with the Black knights/Bournemouth.

100% agree.

[Ozyhibby]

We literally did last season. Plenty signings. Lost to Motherwell, Livi and St Mirren.

Cost the manager his job.[emoji106]


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[Real Emerald]

I think we'll do better this year than we did last year, with the players we've currently got.

I think Beyoncé is going to knock on my door tonight and serenade me in my bath. Probably a more likely scenario. 😂

[King Cosell]

Looks like Dominic Solanke's off to Spurs.

[ChicoM1875]

I think Beyoncé is going to knock on my door tonight and serenade me in my bath. Probably a more likely scenario. 😂

Wait, she's going to be singing in the bath? Or you're in the bath? I'm confused

[Real Emerald]

Wait, she's going to be singing in the bath? Or you're in the bath? I'm confused

All options are available 😂

[babahibs]

If we win will you post something positive?

Don't be daft!

[babahibs]

9 new quality signings over at the PBS. The gap between the two clubs continues to grow. This window is becoming more depressing as the hours go by. Very surprised that nobody has come in this week given all the chat.

I don't really want to swear, but, **** off

[007]

I think Beyoncé is going to knock on my door tonight and serenade me in my bath. Probably a more likely scenario. 😂

And the chances of her even being in the country on bath night are 1 in 365. 😀

[Real Emerald]

And the chances of her even being in the country on bath night are 1 in 365. 😀

I don’t often have a bath I admit but could make an exception if the door bell goes. 😂

[CentreForward]

9 quality signings 😂😂

Well they certainly look ok and would have been happy to have a number of them at ER. Time will tell I suppose.

[KeithWright9]

I don't really want to swear, but, **** off

We will buy you a Hearts scarf for next season

[007]

I don’t often have a bath I admit but could make an exception if the door bell goes. 😂

😂

She supports Rangers anyway...Halo, halo, we are the Billy boys.

[MWHIBBIES]

Cost the manager his job.[emoji106]


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He wasn't a new manager.

[GloryGlory]

Are we wanting to announce it Sunday morning ala Boyle v hearts in an attempt to surprise St Mirren or something

Announce what? A new sock sponsor? :greengrin

[Silky]

And the chances of her even being in the country on bath night are 1 in 365. 😀

You're assuming he bathes every night! 🤣🤣

[Onceinawhile]

You're assuming he bathes every night! 🤣🤣

I think he's assuming he baths once a year.

[Silky]

I think he's assuming he baths once a year.

Is he a Jambo?

[Real Emerald]

I think he's assuming he baths once a year.

😂😂

[007]

Is he a Jambo?

No. He pays his bills.

[Sioux]

I guess there is but a defeat on Sunday followed by two from Celtic and things could get uncomfortable.


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"and things could get uncomfortable."

And you can't wait for it!

[Gordy M]

"and things could get uncomfortable."

And you can't wait for it!

We aint getting beat on Sunday.

[Hibernian Verse]

Even just getting a fairer balance of VAR decisions will go a long way to improving our points total.

I was looking forward to Sunday before you reminded me about VAR!

[Nicho87]

Be good if hibs could announce 2 very soon

[eastmainsmsh]

How is Foley taking us for mugs?

Kensell and Gordon not clever enough to take anyone for a mug. They're just **** at running the club.

Well where is promised Investment top players and all the rest 🤔 maybe if foley takes full control

[easty]

Well where is promised Investment top players and all the rest 🤔 maybe if foley takes full control

The Foley investment is already in.

[007]

I was looking forward to Sunday before you reminded me about VAR!

Sorry. 🙁

[Hibernian Verse]

Sorry. 🙁

Wonder what new ways the SFA will find to muck us about this year

[Unseen work]

Getting a bit late now for announced Myk and Hoilett

Both tomorrow? Or save Holiett for Monday to spread it out since he probably won’t be fit for Sunday?

[Smartie]

3 or 4 players at £5-6k a week is probably not a problem, but you’re guaranteed quality at £6k a week, so if we’re trying to make sure we get the right players then that’s the correct thing to do.

I still just find it mad that we’re talking about those sorts of wages for players. With season tickets not going up by similarly wild amounts in recent years, it really wouldn’t be that much of a surprise if we’d got ourselves into some bother.

Would it?

I’ve heard some wild rumours about what some players have been earning since the Gordons came in and when you then consider our penchant for punting management teams it isn’t hard to imagine we’re burning through a fair bit of cash.

Which is fine if someone is prepared to underwrite that, even just for a bit.

But if not?

[Mrimbetween]

You ever get that sinking feeling when popping back on line to read this thread and notice there is still no signings

Makes it worse when some suggest its almost imminent

Can but hope eh

[Since90+2]

I still just find it mad that we’re talking about those sorts of wages for players. With season tickets not going up by similarly wild amounts in recent years, it really wouldn’t be that much of a surprise if we’d got ourselves into some bother.

Would it?

I’ve heard some wild rumours about what some players have been earning since the Gordons came in and when you then consider our penchant for punting management teams it isn’t hard to imagine we’re burning through a fair bit of cash.

Which is fine if someone is prepared to underwrite that, even just for a bit.

But if not?

You're also not guaranteed "quality" at 6k a week. Better chance of it working out well? Absolutely. It's not guaranteed though.

[McGruber]

If Hibs got a £ for everytime somebody used the phrase, 'the silence is deafening' we could buy anyone we wanted.
Guessing this must have been the nationwide example of oxymoron rolled out as part of the curriculum at schools.

[Coco Bryce]

If Hibs got a £ for everytime somebody used the phrase, 'the silence is deafening' we could buy anyone we wanted.
Guessing this must have been the nationwide example of oxymoron rolled out as part of the curriculum at schools.

Nowhere near used as much as.

"think he'll push on this season.."

[easty]

You're also not guaranteed "quality" at 6k a week. Better chance of it working out well? Absolutely. It's not guaranteed though.

Aye, I’ve edited my post, I definitely meant to say not guaranteed!

[Alex Trager]

Nowhere near used as much as.

"think he'll push on this season.."

Or

‘The better quality becomes available at the end of the window’

Which is the summers version of

‘Its really hard to get quality in in this window’ which we are told in Jan

[Alfred E Newman]

Nowhere near used as much as.

"think he'll push on this season.."

“ I think there’s a player in there”

[B.H.F.C]

Nowhere near used as much as.

"think he'll push on this season.."

“We’re lucky to have him” about various players after another disappointing season.

[Scotty Leither]

Looks like we’ve tried to entice Boyce from that mob and failed.

[hibee1875]

Looks like we’ve tried to entice Boyce from that mob and failed.

Where’s this come from?

[bingo70]

Looks like we’ve tried to entice Boyce from that mob and failed.

Where are you reading that about?

Seems unlikely unless he was out of contract, which he isn’t.

Certainly injured enough for someone we could be after though.

[Hibs4185]

Looks like we’ve tried to entice Boyce from that mob and failed.

Sniff sniff. He’s on 8-10k a week there and no way we paying that or going there for someone so controversial

[raeburnhibs]

Looks like we’ve tried to entice Boyce from that mob and failed.

Says who? Last time I saw him a few weeks ago he was running around St Margarets Park on his own trying to get fit (again)

[04Sauzee]

Looks like we’ve tried to entice Boyce from that mob and failed.

No danger

[Smartie]

Looks like we’ve tried to entice Boyce from that mob and failed.

Ooft.

Can we now officially declare that silly season has arrived?

[Unseen work]

Looks like we’ve tried to entice Boyce from that mob and failed.

I’d be stunned.

He’s never fit and on a fortune.

[007]

Looks like we’ve tried to entice Boyce from that mob and failed.

https://i.ibb.co/h9My9TY/146516955.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[Alex Trager]

Looks like we’ve tried to entice Boyce from that mob and failed.

😂

[ChicoM1875]

If Hibs got a £ for everytime somebody used the phrase, 'the silence is deafening' we could buy anyone we wanted.
Guessing this must have been the nationwide example of oxymoron rolled out as part of the curriculum at schools.

Or "hung out to dry"....

[IberianHibernian]

Looks like we’ve tried to entice Boyce from that mob and failed.More likely that someone in Gorgie has started rumour as Hearts would love to get rid of a highly paid player who is unlikely to help them much in the future . For all their donations from fans and benefactor , they`ll be desperate to cut their wage bill too especially if noone buys Shankland whose value is dropping every day .

[Dalianwanda]

Looks like we’ve tried to entice Boyce from that mob and failed.

constantly at it

[Mrimbetween]

More likely that someone in Gorgie has started rumour as Hearts would love to get rid of a highly paid player who is unlikely to help them much in the future . For all their donations from fans and benefactor , they`ll be desperate to cut their wage bill too especially if noone buys Shankland whose value is dropping every day . Like it or not that lot are in a far better place than most teams .They dont need to sell right now

[IberianHibernian]

Like it or not that lot are in a far better place than most teams .They dont need to sell right nowDefinitely in a better place financially than most teams but their accountants will still be aware of players and other staff ( Savage guy will be / was on a good salary for example ) who are draining them . They may not need to sell but will be aware that Shankland`s value is dropping every day and few of their other players are known outside Scotland . There was a thread here today mentioning Sauzee , Latapy etc with obvious nostalgia but also mentioning that we suffered financially for years after . Hearts will have a huge wage bill now but without their fans having players like Franck or Russell to talk about 20 years later .

[CentreForward]

According to the DR a load of clubs showing interest in Bowie.

[Mrimbetween]

Definitely in a better place financially than most teams but their accountants will still be aware of players and other staff ( Savage guy will be / was on a good salary for example ) who are draining them . They may not need to sell but will be aware that Shankland`s value is dropping every day and few of their other players are known outside Scotland . There was a thread here today mentioning Sauzee , Latapy etc with obvious nostalgia but also mentioning that we suffered financially for years after . Hearts will have a huge wage bill now but without their fans having players like Franck or Russell to talk about 20 years later .
The thing is, The Head has a yr left and if he and his counterpart's secure third during that time, there is a £5 million kitty on show. And who knows it may happen. Be shocked if he was sold as Hearts will ask for stupid money as a deterrent. A gamble for sure but not that unlikely out come as much as it sickens me

[tamig]

Looks like we’ve tried to entice Boyce from that mob and failed.

Kensell, Ian Gordon and McPherson have finally got to you. I hope you’re ok soon.

[JohnM1875]

Looks like we’ve tried to entice Boyce from that mob and failed.

Come on, there's absolutely no chance that happened.

[Donegal Hibby]

Getting a bit late now for announced Myk and Hoilett

Both tomorrow? Or save Holiett for Monday to spread it out since he probably won’t be fit for Sunday?

If Mykola and Hoilett were to sign , what would be our best team in your opinion and what more would you like to see us add to the team within reason of course .

[cabbageandribs1875]

Heartz announce Lee Wallace as U18's assistant coach

[Pytheas]

The thing is, The Head has a yr left and if he and his counterpart's secure third during that time, there is a £5 million kitty on show. And who knows it may happen. Be shocked if he was sold as Hearts will ask for stupid money as a deterrent. A gamble for sure but not that unlikely out come as much as it sickens me

I might be wrong but does Scotland not lose the guaranteed group stage spot for 3rd place this year? maybe next season?

[JohnM1875]

I might be wrong but does Scotland not lose the guaranteed group stage spot for 3rd place this year? maybe next season?

Unless we (Scottish teams) have an unbelievable season this year than I'm sure you're right.

We totally ****ed it when it mattered. Be very Hibs that we get our act together as soon as it goes back to 17 qualifiers to reach the group stages.

[California-Hibs]

Looks like we’ve tried to entice Boyce from that mob and failed.

Look at me, look at me! 🤦*♂️

[Northernhibee]

Heartz announce Lee Wallace as U18's assistant coach

In this case the grass isn’t greener on the other side.

[Trinity Hibee]

In this case the grass isn’t greener on the other side.

Must be to help the forwards with their shooting

[SHODAN]

Unless we (Scottish teams) have an unbelievable season this year than I'm sure you're right.

We totally ****ed it when it mattered. Be very Hibs that we get our act together as soon as it goes back to 17 qualifiers to reach the group stages.

That's us getting 3rd then.