Summer transfer thread 2024/25

[Joe6-2]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/got-got-need-hibs-transfer-priorities-as-gray-looks-for-reinforcements-ahead-of-deadline-day-4760437

"Looking for Luke
There are only so many ways to say it. Hibs really, really, really like Luke McCowan. They’ve bid in the region of £750,000 for the Dundee captain. And they’re waiting for the Dens Park club to come back with a definitive yeah or nay."

I think if we really, really, really like McCowan we would have paid what Dundee want already. The fact we are still hanging on with a bid under what they want suggests we only really, really like him. :greengrin

I feel if we have a plan B we should be telling Dundee to whistle and move on, time not on our side

[JohnM1875]

Live pre-game press conference;

https://x.com/HibernianFC/status/1829127263641604261

Gray at 1:30, probably won't give anything away.

Edit: can't even get that right, kept buffering so they stopped it.

[Cooshed Kid]

Wasnt a problem for Conrad Logan

Aye, but he was an experienced keeper who had an experienced defence in front of him....and the luck of the Irish, God bless him.

[Jock O]

I strongly suspect nothing at most clubs is now going to happen till tomorrow, so for those running out of nails to bite, it might be worth a look through this, its quite an interesting day by day look through transfers of August on BBC. It doesn't cover outside our top league but on glancing, without any detailed statistical analysis it seems to suggest.

(a) Overall spending is down in England, but still crazy, Ipswich spend nearly 100m and now Brentford are throwing big money around, have they abandoned their previous plans. But generally EPL/Championship players are mostly out off ALL Scottish teams budget, or soon will be, not just Hibs,

(b) Very little business of any real relevance is done before that 2nd week in August, its not just Hibs, but its easy for us to get worked up each year as if it is.

(c) A pretty high% of deals are loans, its not just Hibs, but it looks like the deal structures are changing to reflect a moving market, e.g. the article on buyback clauses.

(d) Lots of Goalkeepers seemed to have moved, its not just Hibs. Maybe its too late for us to get another, decent one, or maybe as people are saying we need to let ours settle!

(e) Most activity happens towards the end, its not just Hibs. There is absolutely a domino effect with lots of the power being in the sellers hands for the in demand players, but for most of the mid range good players its a bit of a gambling game when to hold for something better against when to jump! Lets see if McCowan sticks or twists tomorrow

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/transfers

[Hibees1973]

I'd be astonished if McCowan is still at Dundee after the transfer window.

It's not logical for them to knock back any fee around £750k with the state they are in. Unless McCowan thinks our club is a basket case (understandable) and he ihas higher wage offers when his contract expires.

[JohnM1875]

I'd be astonished if McCowan is still at Dundee after the transfer window.

It's not logical for them to knock back any fee around £750k with the state they are in. Unless McCowan thinks our club is a basket case (understandable) and he ihas higher wage offers when his contract expires.

Are Dundee in a state? Signed plenty players and have a link up with Burnley, think they're sending a winger Dundee's way. Think they sorted their pitch issues as well.

[B.H.F.C]

Have said since it first came out that I’d be surprised if we got McCowan and I’ve not changed my mind yet. Just feel that if he really wanted the move it would have been pushed on and be done by now.

I just hope that, if we miss out on him, we have someone else lined up.

[Since90+2]

Actually they do have a lot to learn. If we press high then they need to know where to position themselves, or vice versa. That will also change depending on who’s in front of them, how quick they are, are they left/right footed so the keeper can make better angles for them when under pressure. They need to know which centre half’s are likely to attack a high ball versus want the keeper to come, and where that might change in the box. Is there a vocal leader amongst the defenders or is that something they’ll need to do more of. What are the key instructions and phrases that’s used amongst these players. Look at our 2 centre halfs at the moment, one is more comfortable on the ball than the other, so the keeper needs to know this, and be aware of how to give the ball to each, and how to best support them under pressure, again in terms of where and how to pass them the ball and to be make it easier to receive it. They need to know who are the players who’ll look to break from a corner, and where they’ll be positioned on the pitch at said corner in order to look to release the ball to them, and then how to get them the ball, do they prefer it over the top or into feet, can they shape the pass to make it easier to shield the ball from the opposition when it arrives.


There’ll be more than that, and also the keeper will want/need to put their needs across, what do they want from their defenders in certain situations, where do they want a back pass put to make it easier to clear first time, are they more likely to catch or punch a high ball, do they want breakaway attackers to hold at a certain point on the pitch as they can’t throw or kick the ball as accurately after that point.


It is a solo position, but I think there’s still a lot of learning to do for them

The majority of that though is phase play and when to release the ball. He hasn't looked great because we are conceiding goals you'd expect a top keeper to save.

There is a reason keepers primarily train and warm up alone. They don't need to settle into the rhythm and flow of a team anything like as much as an outfield player.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/got-got-need-hibs-transfer-priorities-as-gray-looks-for-reinforcements-ahead-of-deadline-day-4760437

"Looking for Luke
There are only so many ways to say it. Hibs really, really, really like Luke McCowan. They’ve bid in the region of £750,000 for the Dundee captain. And they’re waiting for the Dens Park club to come back with a definitive yeah or nay."

I think if we really, really, really like McCowan we would have paid what Dundee want already. The fact we are still hanging on with a bid under what they want suggests we only really, really like him. :greengrin

What more can we do, we have made a 3rd bid and are waiting on a response. If Dundee aren’t knocking that bid back yet, then we assume it’s under consideration. Or should we just offer more anyway, taking potential funds away from other targets?

[04Sauzee]

I'd be astonished if McCowan is still at Dundee after the transfer window.

It's not logical for them to knock back any fee around £750k with the state they are in. Unless McCowan thinks our club is a basket case (understandable) and he ihas higher wage offers when his contract expires.
McCowan could easily turn down any club this summer, another decent season and he could go for nothing and pick up a more lucrative salary as clubs aren't paying a fee for him.

[Cooshed Kid]

Have said since it first came out that I’d be surprised if we got McCowan and I’ve not changed my mind yet. Just feel that if he really wanted the move it would have been pushed on and be done by now.

I just hope that, if we miss out on him, we have someone else lined up.

We certainly can't blame him for not wanting the move just as I couldn't blame Nisbet for preferring Aberdeen. We're not a compelling proposition for any player just now. When new signings gush about the "big club" etc in their introductory interviews I just think the PR team have given them a list of soundbites to repeat they think we'll lap up. We may not actually be in crisis but we do a fairly good impersonation of it sometimes.

[Smartie]

Not sure my heart can handle the end of transfer window and Oasis ticket scramble in the space of 12 hours😳

That's a lot of activity in a short space of time.

No idea whose idea it was to schedule both those events so close together - presumably somebody who doesn't understand the importance of being idle.

[Joe6-2]

Live pre-game press conference;

https://x.com/HibernianFC/status/1829127263641604261

Gray at 1:30, probably won't give anything away.

Edit: can't even get that right, kept buffering so they stopped it.

Has it been done?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Live pre-game press conference;

https://x.com/HibernianFC/status/1829127263641604261

Gray at 1:30, probably won't give anything away.

Edit: can't even get that right, kept buffering so they stopped it.

:greengrin

[JohnM1875]

Has it been done?

Must be. O'Hora was on first and it kept buffering and cutting out so they chucked it. Gray was due on 1:30 so probably finished.

[Joe6-2]

Must be. O'Hora was on first and it kept buffering and cutting out so they chucked it. Gray was due on 1:30 so probably finished.

🙄

[Real Emerald]

Live pre-game press conference;

https://x.com/HibernianFC/status/1829127263641604261

Gray at 1:30, probably won't give anything away.

Edit: can't even get that right, kept buffering so they stopped it.

So that’s a GK, CB, CM and now an IT guy we’re needing. 😂

[Green-Hibee-7]

If I’m Dundee, knowing some of the errors we have made in the past with recruitment, I’m stringing Hibs along till the last second and pulling the plug. Leaves us in a worse position, scrambling for an alternative. They probably feel they could easily finish above us by holding on to him and leaving us with a 2nd choice or no-one at all.

I’d like to think the club are well on top of this type of scenario but confidence in their abilities over recent years is low.

I like the ambition, I wouldn’t have gone as high as they are allegedly offering, but they cannot afford to adopt the “at least we tried” stance.

Tend to agree with others, I think if he was coming he would have been here by now. As a shambles as we are, we are not mugs and about time the club started fighting back a bit. Both fans and board. There is not forcing a move and being respectful, but if McGowan wanted it to happen he could easily have done it in a respectful way and left. Good player yes, but we shouldn’t be holding out all our plans on him IMO. Not particularly keen on someone who is holding out for better or has to think twice about moving from Dundee to Hibs. (Appreciate that’s me speaking as a fan😂 This next move is his most important, so rationally when you remove the Hibs element I do kind of understand his position.

[Centre Hawf]

Must be. O'Hora was on first and it kept buffering and cutting out so they chucked it. Gray was due on 1:30 so probably finished.

Gray on now and working fine

[GreenPJ]

If I’m Dundee, knowing some of the errors we have made in the past with recruitment, I’m stringing Hibs along till the last second and pulling the plug. Leaves us in a worse position, scrambling for an alternative. They probably feel they could easily finish above us by holding on to him and leaving us with a 2nd choice or no-one at all.

I’d like to think the club are well on top of this type of scenario but confidence in their abilities over recent years is low.

I like the ambition, I wouldn’t have gone as high as they are allegedly offering, but they cannot afford to adopt the “at least we tried” stance.

Tend to agree with others, I think if he was coming he would have been here by now. As a shambles as we are, we are not mugs and about time the club started fighting back a bit. Both fans and board. There is not forcing a move and being respectful, but if McGowan wanted it to happen he could easily have done it in a respectful way and left. Good player yes, but we shouldn’t be holding out all our plans on him IMO. Not particularly keen on someone who is holding out for better or has to think twice about moving from Dundee to Hibs. (Appreciate that’s me speaking as a fan😂 This next move is his most important, so rationally when you remove the Hibs element I do kind of understand his position.

Dundee need to do what is best for them but I don't think that actively trying to scupper another club is what they are doing or what they should be doing - how you do business influences future interactions. There will be a tipping point for Hibs and there will be a tipping point for Dundee - for us its leaving enough time to secure someone else, for Dundee its holding out long enough (but not too long) that they end up with no transfer fee from anyone.

[JohnM1875]

Gray on now and working fine

Cheers, JDH even gets a mention! Fit but just not match fit apparently.

Seemed to maybe hint of a Youan bid? 'Unexpected offers our way' maybe read too much into it.

[Dashing Bob S]

While I like McCowan and think he's what we need, I think i'd have turned my attention elsewhere at 500 K.

[SteveHFC]

Cheers, JDH even gets a mention! Fit but just not match fit apparently.



must be able to tie his bootlaces now, wont be long might even see him before end of season

[04Sauzee]

Cheers, JDH even gets a mention! Fit but just not match fit apparently.

Seemed to maybe hint of a Youan bid? 'Unexpected offers our way' maybe read too much into it.

I'd be surprised if he hasn't away by the end of the window.

[JohnM1875]

must be able to tie his bootlaces now, wont be long might even see him before end of season

Can’t see him playing for Hibs again. Gary was pretty cagey when answering the questions about him. Just surprised he got a mention.

[Real Emerald]

While I like McCowan and think he's what we need, I think i'd have turned my attention elsewhere at 500 K.

A players value is really difficult to judge but if McCowan was a Hibs player, would you be happy selling him to one of your rivals for £500k? He may be worth more than that to Dundee in league placings alone.

[Paulie Walnuts]

A players value is really difficult to judge but if McCowan was a Hibs player, would you be happy selling him to one of your rivals for £500k? He may be worth more than that to Dundee in league placings alone.

I’ve said all along I don’t think he’ll end up here and this is partly why.

£750k is decent money. Losing their talisman though could potentially mean rather than challenging for 4th etc they may end up bottom 6, out of cups earlier etc and based on how much money that apparently lost us last season. that may well be a difference of more than £750k to them.

I’m not convinced there’s a deal that suits both Hibs and Dundee tbh.

[Lago]

McCowan could easily turn down any club this summer, another decent season and he could go for nothing and pick up a more lucrative salary as clubs aren't paying a fee for him.
And that is exactly what I think he'll do.

[Hibees1973]

One thing for sure, JDH will be on the payroll until the end of his contract.

These updates on his fitness have become pure comedy.

[JohnM1875]

I’ve said all along I don’t think he’ll end up here and this is partly why.

£750k is decent money. Losing their talisman though could potentially mean rather than challenging for 4th etc they may end up bottom 6, out of cups earlier etc and based on how much money that apparently lost us last season. that may well be a difference of more than £750k to them.

I’m not convinced there’s a deal that suits both Hibs and Dundee tbh.

See, this is my worry with McCowan. The expectation that's been put on him with how long this has gone on for. He's a good player, but Dundee will absolutely manage without him. He isn't a player that will have a team destined for bottom six suddenly challenging for fourth.

He's a good player for this league and would improve our midfield. But it's a midfield folk slaughter most weeks.

[HoboHarry]

McCowan could easily turn down any club this summer, another decent season and he could go for nothing and pick up a more lucrative salary as clubs aren't paying a fee for him.

He might also get hurt 9 minutes into his next game and be out for months similar to Matt O'Riley at Brighton. It's a calculated risk.

[JohnM1875]

One thing for sure, JDH will be on the payroll until the end of his contract.

These updates on his fitness have become pure comedy.

Don't blame him to be honest. What with LJ injuring him in training.

I actually thought that's why there'd been no mention of him, he'd maybe been told to pack playing in and he'd sued us or something cause of the nature of the injury.

But nope, just not quite match fit apparently.

[Dashing Bob S]

A players value is really difficult to judge but if McCowan was a Hibs player, would you be happy selling him to one of your rivals for £500k? He may be worth more than that to Dundee in league placings alone.

Agree that its a hard one. Can't see any rival club in Scotland coming in, though the Yams might be tempted just to spite us. He's probably, given our staffing issues and needs, worth more to us than a lot of clubs. I think he'll be here tomorrow purely because I doubt -unless someone down south comes in - he'll have any other suitors.

[Real Emerald]

Agree that its a hard one. Can't see any rival club in Scotland coming in, though the Yams might be tempted just to spite us. He's probably, given our staffing issues and needs, worth more to us than a lot of clubs. I think he'll be here tomorrow purely because I doubt -unless someone down south comes in - he'll have any other suitors.

Hope you’re right. 🤞

[Paulie Walnuts]

See, this is my worry with McCowan. The expectation that's been put on him with how long this has gone on for. He's a good player, but Dundee will absolutely manage without him. He isn't a player that will have a team destined for bottom six suddenly challenging for fourth.

He's a good player for this league and would improve our midfield. But it's a midfield folk slaughter most weeks.

It’s just an example, but even if it’s the difference between 6th again and 7th, that’ll be a costly sum as well. They then have to replace him off the £750k which eats into their profit again.

I’m honestly just not convinced the deal makes all that much sense for Dundee if I’m honest and I don’t think more than £750k makes sense to us.

[JohnM1875]

It’s just an example, but even if it’s the difference between 6th again and 7th, that’ll be a costly sum as well. They then have to replace him off the £750k which eats into their profit again.

I’m honestly just not convinced the deal makes all that much sense for Dundee if I’m honest and I don’t think more than £750k makes sense to us.

Sorry, just meant the expectations built up around McCowan in general. Not just on here, all over social media as well. Wasn't having a go.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Sorry, just meant the expectations built up around McCowan in general. Not just on here, all over social media as well. Wasn't having a go.

I don’t disagree with that :agree:

[B.H.F.C]

I'd be surprised if he hasn't away by the end of the window.

I’ll be more surprised if he does go anywhere. Barely kicked a ball for a year and on a better contract than he’ll get elsewhere.

[SHODAN]

Predictions for tomorrow:

In:
Midfielder (U21 loan from English tier 2/3)

Out:
Youan
Kenneh (loan)
Delferriere

[04Sauzee]

Dundee could be about to sell 16 year old to Wolves for a decent sum of money.

[HoboHarry]

Dundee could be about to sell 16 year old to Wolves for a decent sum of money.
Forget the details but a youngster left Celtic last week for England in the same week as Scottish clubs are being criticized for not giving youngsters a chance. It's going to only get worse if the English clubs continue to snap up the young talent.

[NGoloGrantie]

Dundee could be about to sell 16 year old to Wolves for a decent sum of money.

Is it not st Mirren the boy plays for? Ethan Sutherland?


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[Cabbage-Patch]

Didn't see the press conference. Was Gray asked about McCowan?

[JohnM1875]

Didn't see the press conference. Was Gray asked about McCowan?

Yup ‘won’t mention specific players. He’s a Dundee player’ standard stuff.

[KWJ]

It’s just an example, but even if it’s the difference between 6th again and 7th, that’ll be a costly sum as well. They then have to replace him off the £750k which eats into their profit again.

I’m honestly just not convinced the deal makes all that much sense for Dundee if I’m honest and I don’t think more than £750k makes sense to us.

Tend to agree with this. That sort of money for us is a big risk. He looks very good at Dundee but he's only had 1 full season the top flight. I feel like that money could get us more elsewhere.

Check back in January.

That said, if we've got that kind of cash to burn then go for it. Another issue with signing him is that it makes the high earning signings of Amos and Levitt seem pointless. Feel like they should be given a decent run in the team to show what they can do otherwise we'll just be letting them go at the end of their contracts too.

I'd far rather we splashed that kind of dosh on a first pick centre half or spread it across the back 5 including keeper.

[04Sauzee]

From Anthony Joseph

UPDATE: Celtic have agreed a deal worth £11m for Augsburg midfielder Arne Engels.

[JohnM1875]

From Anthony Joseph

UPDATE: Celtic have agreed a deal worth £11m for Augsburg midfielder Arne Engels.

Sky sports news reporting it as well. Just insane.

[MKHIBEE]

All so true, which is why I am stunned that any club aspiring to have an impenetrable defence and to play in Europe next year would have a loanee keeper who will be away in the summer however good that keeper may be. Building an understanding with and of your defenders takes time.

Wasnt a problem for Conrad Logan

[EGL2000]

Sky sports news reporting it as well. Just insane.

Hardly insane where the market is going these days. Years of champions league and good players sales means they can pay that much even being a Scottish team.

[WestStandWillie]

Youan's deleted all Hibs related posts and unfollowed the club on social media.

Such a shame it's come to that. Would imagine that'll be that and he's away before the window closes.

[04Sauzee]

Is it not st Mirren the boy plays for? Ethan Sutherland?


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A young guy called Seb Lochhead I think.

[WestStandWillie]

There was a free agents football match down south the other day.

The laddie that was at St Mirren and Motherwell, Charles Dunne featured along with Michael Hector who I believe had a spell at Aberdeen.

Got the league experience and could be worth a look.

[Nicho87]

I’ll predict a younger centre half on loan from Bournemouth / English club

Plus a midfielder signed permanently no idea who

With a final younger winger / striker type signed on loan also

Players out I’ll predict Kennah and Jair away on loan.

Delferierre away permanently

[Langlee Hibs]

I hate Dundee. The song tells me I do!

[04Sauzee]

Hardly insane where the market is going these days. Years of champions league and good players sales means they can pay that much even being a Scottish team.

Talks about Frimpong moving on as well which will bank them some more money.

[Alfred E Newman]

There was a free agents football match down south the other day.

The laddie that was at St Mirren and Motherwell, Charles Dunne featured along with Michael Hector who I believe had a spell at Aberdeen.

Got the league experience and could be worth a look.

Deary me, let's hope this isn't the stage we at. And we wonder why we never seem to get anywhere.

[Cabbage-Patch]

From Anthony Joseph

UPDATE: Celtic have agreed a deal worth £11m for Augsburg midfielder Arne Engels.

Will that be their record signing?

[WestStandWillie]

Deary me, let's hope this isn't the stage we at. And we wonder why we never seem to get anywhere.

So you wouldn't want a left footed/left sided centre half that was part of a side that gained European football (Dunne)

or

A Jamaican international who played in League 1 last season for Charlton? Hector's played at Copa America so he's match fit.

:rolleyes:

[Donegal Hibby]

Sky sports news reporting it as well. Just insane.

It’s insane the gulf that now exists between them and the rest of the league . If they sign him for 11 mill plus the 9.5 mill they spent on Idah .. that’s over 20 mill on two players and I’m sure they aren’t finished there .

A few of the Dundee fans on their forum were disappointed in Cameron in their pre match interview that he will move on if he gets the chance . Docherty not giving much away either here ……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iKLnwZp2qA&t=221s

[Tyler Durden]

So you wouldn't want a left footed/left sided centre half that was part of a side that gained European football (Dunne)

or

A Jamaican international who played in League 1 last season for Charlton? Hector's played at Copa America so he's match fit.

:rolleyes:

Correct - wouldn't want them.

[JimBHibees]

Is it not st Mirren the boy plays for? Ethan Sutherland?


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Different player

[brydekirk]

Youan's deleted all Hibs related posts and unfollowed the club on social media.

Such a shame it's come to that. Would imagine that'll be that and he's away before the window closes.

Maybe just sick of the abuse.

[Alex Trager]

It’s insane the gulf that now exists between them and the rest of the league . If they sign him for 11 mill , plus the 9.5 mill they spent on Idah .. that’s over 20 mill on two players and I’m sure they aren’t finished there .

A few of the Dundee fans on there forum were disappointed in Cameron on their pre match interview implying he’s indicting he will move to if he gets the chance . Docherty not given much away either here ……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iKLnwZp2qA&t=221s

Cameron has always impressed me tbh. Would be good to get him tied into a pre contract in Jan if possible.

[JimBHibees]

So you wouldn't want a left footed/left sided centre half that was part of a side that gained European football (Dunne)

or

A Jamaican international who played in League 1 last season for Charlton? Hector's played at Copa America so he's match fit.

:rolleyes:

Don't rate Dunne at all to be fair

[McGruber]

Youan's deleted all Hibs related posts and unfollowed the club on social media.

Such a shame it's come to that. Would imagine that'll be that and he's away before the window closes.

Gutted if that's him off but can't turn down the kind of money that's being bandied about for a player that doesn't want to be here. Absolutely superb to watch when he was on it, unplayable at times - frustrating at others

[MWHIBBIES]

I wonder if on a Hibs end we now want McCowan as our ‘deadline day signing’

If we announce him today fans will still be desperate for something tomorrow. Announce him tomorrow and it’s we got the target we’ve waited for and is probably bigger news

Na. He either isn't coming or it's still up in the air.

[04Sauzee]

Liam Cooper's move to Hull looks like it's collapsed. Wonder if it's the money he's looking for or lengths of contract or perhaps both

[Donegal Hibby]

Cameron has always impressed me tbh. Would be good to get him tied into a pre contract in Jan if possible.

Watched a couple of Dundee games and in both he was the player that stood out the most .

[Souter96Mac]

Liam Cooper's move to Hull looks like it's collapsed. Wonder if it's the money he's looking for or lengths of contract or perhaps both

No chance, but I didn't realise he was a free agent - sounds like there's several other championship teams interested, but would chuck money at him to sign. Would stroll it up here

[Fergus52]

Watched a couple of Dundee games and in both he was the player that stood out the most .

They've both looked pretty good to me whenever I've watched Dundee,

McCowan has the much better underlying numbers for what you'd want in a centre mid though - both defensively (tackles and interceptions per 90), and creatively (chances created and progressive passes per 90)

[Hibiza]

Expect nothing this window other than window dressing, we've been doing it for years / decades.Hope I'm wrong.

[greenlex]

Expect nothing this window other than window dressing, we've been doing it for years / decades.Hope I'm wrong.
You do know we’ve signed 9 players this window so far?

[JimBHibees]

It’s insane the gulf that now exists between them and the rest of the league . If they sign him for 11 mill plus the 9.5 mill they spent on Idah .. that’s over 20 mill on two players and I’m sure they aren’t finished there .

A few of the Dundee fans on their forum were disappointed in Cameron in their pre match interview that he will move on if he gets the chance . Docherty not giving much away either here ……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iKLnwZp2qA&t=221s

Very interesting he seemed to be saying going into my final year is a good position to be in. Also clearly wasn't being truthful when asked whether there had been interest in him. Confident lad.

[JimBHibees]

Cameron has always impressed me tbh. Would be good to get him tied into a pre contract in Jan if possible.

Would be funny as if we signed McCowan tomorrow then signed a pre-contract with Cameron in jan

[Jim44]

I think Dundee are in full control of the situation. They can keep us hanging on till the last minute knowing that Celtic will almost certainly make a bid at the last minute. That bid will be a small improvement on our last bid. I just hope that we have walked away to pursue other possibilities but not announced it. Dundee wouldn’t have announced our withdrawal to keep Celtic guessing. Softly, softly catchee monkey.

[HoboHarry]

You do know we’ve signed 9 players this window so far?

Only final week signings count 😉

[04Sauzee]

Very interesting he seemed to be saying going into my final year is a good position to be in. Also clearly wasn't being truthful when asked whether there had been interest in him. Confident lad.

Imagine having a club official question a young player like that asking searching questions and then putting it out.

[7Hero]

I can't help but think Hibs have made a mess of this, going after a player we have little change to get. He's more likely to continue being a captain / hero where he is and his stock will rise as this Dundee Team is the best they have had in a long time and could finish in best Premier league position in years..

He can leave end of season with no Transfer fee and a big signing on fee and wage.

It's not taking long because they are negotiating, it's just simply not likely to happen or more likely dead in the water.. The fact we have once again left the signings so late smacks of desperation or just bad management and organisation ( which we are constantly doing) and our hands are clearly tied by paying the amount of players we have who we cant get rid of.

If those players we have to get off the books are out of contract this summer, then it's a more realistic option for us to wait ( yes a transition season) and do business in the Summer.

Might even get Mr Maccowan then too.

[He's here!]

Aberdeen seem to have decided to sort in one transfer window?[emoji2369]
Why do we need to wait three?


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Good point.

Post-McInnes, bar that run of form under Robson which propelled them up to third, they've been almost as poor as us when it comes to finding a decent manager. Now they've finally made what looks to be a good choice they're flying. None of this 'three windows' stuff.

[EGL2000]

Lukaku joins Napoli for 30 mil.

[TrinityHFC]

Good point.

Post-McInnes, bar that run of form under Robson which propelled them up to third, they've been almost as poor as us when it comes to finding a decent manager. Now they've finally made what looks to be a good choice they're flying. None of this 'three windows' stuff.

Let’s just see over the season. A few teams have started well in the past and fallen away. They have built a good bit of momentum though.

I’m sure some of the same posters wouldn’t be convinced if it was us. Hadn’t played anyone decent yet etc.

[Real Emerald]

I can't help but think Hibs have made a mess of this, going after a player we have little change to get. He's more likely to continue being a captain / hero where he is and his stock will rise as this Dundee Team is the best they have had in a long time and could finish in best Premier league position in years..

He can leave end of season with no Transfer fee and a big signing on fee and wage.

It's not taking long because they are negotiating, it's just simply not likely to happen or more likely dead in the water.. The fact we have once again left the signings so late smacks of desperation or just bad management and organisation ( which we are constantly doing) and our hands are clearly tied by paying the amount of players we have who we cant get rid of.

If those players we have to get off the books are out of contract this summer, then it's a more realistic option for us to wait ( yes a transition season) and do business in the Summer.

Might even get Mr Maccowan then too.

The trouble with another transition season is it’s just like the cinema selling you a season ticket and then telling you they’re only going to show repeats of all the worst films again this year. We’ve seen it all before and are unlikely to buy into anymore in the future, it’s a dangerous game to play with your customers.

[Gordy M]

Let’s just see over the season. A few teams have started well in the past and fallen away. They have built a good bit of momentum though.

I’m sure some of the same posters wouldn’t be convinced if it was us. Hadn’t played anyone decent yet etc.

Exactly, last year on the 1st dec, im.sure there was one point between us and Hearts, then look what happened. Its like saying well Killie and Hearts are done this year.....way too early.

[Cod Boy]

The trouble with another transition season is it’s just like the cinema selling you a season ticket and then telling you they’re only going to show repeats of all the worst films again this year. We’ve seen it all before and are unlikely to buy into anymore in the future, it’s a dangerous game to play with your customers.

Correct getting pissed off with the same old excuses and dross

[greenlex]

The trouble with another transition season is it’s just like the cinema selling you a season ticket and then telling you they’re only going to show repeats of all the worst films again this year. We’ve seen it all before and are unlikely to buy into anymore in the future, it’s a dangerous game to play with your customers.
Apart from the nine movies we’ve not seen before.

[WeAreHibs]

I can't help but think Hibs have made a mess of this, going after a player we have little change to get. He's more likely to continue being a captain / hero where he is and his stock will rise as this Dundee Team is the best they have had in a long time and could finish in best Premier league position in years..

He can leave end of season with no Transfer fee and a big signing on fee and wage.

It's not taking long because they are negotiating, it's just simply not likely to happen or more likely dead in the water.. The fact we have once again left the signings so late smacks of desperation or just bad management and organisation ( which we are constantly doing) and our hands are clearly tied by paying the amount of players we have who we cant get rid of.

If those players we have to get off the books are out of contract this summer, then it's a more realistic option for us to wait ( yes a transition season) and do business in the Summer.

Might even get Mr Maccowan then too.

Will we get McCowan though?

[AlbertK86]

Cameron has always impressed me tbh. Would be good to get him tied into a pre contract in Jan if possible.

Telling for me that when Docherty was talking about their new loan signing he was looking forward to getting him playing with their other key players like Lyle Cameron and Josh Mullen.

No mention of Luke McCowan.

Also telling later on in the interview he was again cautious talking about whether Luke would still be there.

So I reckon McCowan is on the move …..hopefully to us as opposed to Celtic


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[Wilson]

The trouble with another transition season is it’s just like the cinema selling you a season ticket and then telling you they’re only going to show repeats of all the worst films again this year. We’ve seen it all before and are unlikely to buy into anymore in the future, it’s a dangerous game to play with your customers.

Football is nothing like the cinema! Nobody on this thread has a clue about anything but THAT is the one thing we all know. Hell, even Bobby Williamson knows that by now!

[Crab apple]

Would be funny as if we signed McCowan tomorrow then signed a pre-contract with Cameron in jan

And add in Sylla to really piss them off.

[Alfred E Newman]

So you wouldn't want a left footed/left sided centre half that was part of a side that gained European football (Dunne)

or

A Jamaican international who played in League 1 last season for Charlton? Hector's played at Copa America so he's match fit.

:rolleyes:
Not if they are having to play in a free agent game to try and get a club. We've been signing players like that on the hoof for years

[badabing67]

Telling for me that when Docherty was talking about their new loan signing he was looking forward to getting him playing with their other key players like Lyle Cameron and Josh Mullen.

No mention of Luke McCowan.

Also telling later on in the interview he was again cautious talking about whether Luke would still be there.

So I reckon McCowan is on the move …..hopefully to us as opposed to Celtic


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Yeah I got the impression he wasn't 100% either way regarding McCowan.

[JimBHibees]

Imagine having a club official question a young player like that asking searching questions and then putting it out.

They were journalists

[badabing67]

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[04Sauzee]

They were journalists

The one boy who was talking to Cameron wasn't a club employee 😬?

[Sioux]

It’s just an example, but even if it’s the difference between 6th again and 7th, that’ll be a costly sum as well. They then have to replace him off the £750k which eats into their profit again.

I’m honestly just not convinced the deal makes all that much sense for Dundee if I’m honest and I don’t think more than £750k makes sense to us.

6th or 7th is not a costly sum. Last season 6th paid £1.99m whilst seventh paid £1.83m, £160,000 less. Over the course of a season it makes little difference, and won't influence anyone's budget at the start of the year, especially when only one point could result in being 6th or 7th. No one can budget for that.

If Hibs do sign him for £750,000, they wont get anywhere need the same back in increased prize money, unless its a third place finish. To recoup a transfer fee of £500,000 it needs to be 4th. Presuming the prize money differential stay the same this season.

[Saint Hibee]

Lukaku joins Napoli for 30 mil.

That must mean Osimhen is on his way to Hibs. But can we accommodate another striker?

[HoboHarry]

That must mean Osimhen is on his way to Hibs. But can we accommodate another striker?

I wanted Lukaku not Osimhen.

[Jim44]

Up until now there was little or no mention on KS of McCowan, but he seems to have registered with them now:

‘Sun reporting that we’ve made a “breakthrough” on Trusty negotiations and he’s heading up for medical. Also saying we could sign McCowan as the other signing.’

‘……….. if we sign Trusty and McCowan that’s our signings done?’

I don’t think there’s any doubt that they’ll be putting in an offer and, if McCowan is money-focussed, he’ll end up there.

[NC1875]

Is McCowan a better player than David Turnbull ? I don’t know and Celtic emptied him.

Them going for McCowan doesn’t make sense to me.

[Bridge hibs]

Up until now there was little or no mention on KS of McCowan, but he seems to have registered with them now:

‘Sun reporting that we’ve made a “breakthrough” on Trusty negotiations and he’s heading up for medical. Also saying we could sign McCowan as the other signing.’

‘……….. if we sign Trusty and McCowan that’s our signings done?’

I don’t think there’s any doubt that they’ll be putting in an offer and, if McCowan is money-focussed, he’ll end up there.Or if he is career minded he will end up here. Sit on the celtc bench festering until you are too old for anyone to give a **** about you anymore, or play in hibs first team, earn a few bob for a few years and enjoy what you do on the park.

[JohnM1875]

Up until now there was little or no mention on KS of McCowan, but he seems to have registered with them now:

‘Sun reporting that we’ve made a “breakthrough” on Trusty negotiations and he’s heading up for medical. Also saying we could sign McCowan as the other signing.’

‘……….. if we sign Trusty and McCowan that’s our signings done?’

I don’t think there’s any doubt that they’ll be putting in an offer and, if McCowan is money-focussed, he’ll end up there.

Not just money though, Celtic fan.

Earning a **** tonne of money for a good few years, back near where you grew up and playing (well, training at least) for the team you support.

Frustrating as **** for us as we want to sign him, but I absolutely get it.

[04Sauzee]

Is McCowan a better player than David Turnbull ? I don’t know and Celtic emptied him.

Them going for McCowan doesn’t make sense to me.

I'm sure it will all have to do with how many home grown players they need in their squad for Europe. Already let Mikey Johnston go. They sell Johnston for 3m can pick up McCowan for half that, they could probably keep him a season and Celtic could still sell him and get their money back and even maybe a bit more.

[JimBHibees]

The one boy who was talking to Cameron wasn't a club employee 😬?

Think they were all journos on what i was seeing. Three or four asked him questions. Interesting we still have to put up with nippy fat Brian asking loads of questions in the Hibs one.

[easty]

I'm sure it will all have to do with how many home grown players they need in their squad for Europe. Already let Mikey Johnston go. They sell Johnston for 3m can pick up McCowan for half that, they could probably keep him a season and Celtic could still sell him and get their money back and even maybe a bit more.

They could pick up Stuart Armstrong to fill that quota for free. Better player with more experience tae.

[JohnM1875]

They could pick up Stuart Armstrong to fill that quota for free. Better player with more experience tae.

And pay at least triple the wages?

[04Sauzee]

They could pick up Stuart Armstrong to fill that quota for free. Better player with more experience tae.

And pay more in wages for 2 or 3 years with perhaps less chance of moving him on.

I'm not staying they will sign McCowan but I can see why it may make sense.

[easty]

And pay at least triple the wages?

How much do you reckon Armstrong would want?

[JohnM1875]

How much do you reckon Armstrong would want?

Between 20-30k I’d imagine?

[RIP]

The trouble with another transition season is it’s just like the cinema selling you a season ticket and then telling you they’re only going to show repeats of all the worst films again this year. We’ve seen it all before and are unlikely to buy into anymore in the future, it’s a dangerous game to play with your customers.

I get what you are trying to say but you need to find another analogy.

Whether a member of my extended family through the generations; a member of my HSA branch or my fellow supporters (lads'n'lassies) in the East Stand Singing Section, not one us considers ourselves to be a 'customer' of the club.

We support the club. Through thick and thin, rain and shine, through the bad times, relegation and all. Whilst I agree that sometimes club management can make us feel like mere customers, we are much, much more than that.

GGTTH

[NC1875]

I'm sure it will all have to do with how many home grown players they need in their squad for Europe. Already let Mikey Johnston go. They sell Johnston for 3m can pick up McCowan for half that, they could probably keep him a season and Celtic could still sell him and get their money back and even maybe a bit more.

Yeah I just seen that they had sold Mikey Johnston. Makes a bit more sense now.

Don’t think we’ll see him at Hibs whether he goes to Celtic or not. Think he’ll be happy to sit and wait and hope they want him on a pre contract come January.

Really hope we’re well down the road with option B, or C or the on loan laddie from England that’s inevitable.

[Jim44]

Or if he is career minded he will end up here. Sit on the celtc bench festering until you are too old for anyone to give a **** about you anymore, or play in hibs first team, earn a few bob for a few years and enjoy what you do on the park.

I think Celtic will see him as a decent addition to their European home players quota, in the knowledge that he is a player and will do a job for them if needed. I suspect that money and a few titbits of game time will make it a no brainer for him. I hope that our guys realise this and have other worthwhile irons on the fire.

[Joe6-2]

I think Celtic will see him as a decent addition to their European home players quota, in the knowledge that he is a player and will do a job for them if needed. I suspect that money and a few titbits of game time will make it a no brainer for him. I hope that our guys realise this and have other worthwhile irons on the fire.

I’d have liked McCowan to have just been up front if he’s not coming to us

[Logie]

Genuinely surprised we have not signed anyone yesterday or today. Appreciate we have brought in 9 new players but in reality we need a couple more at least and some players we have moved on. Hopefully tomorrow is a busy day as it’s needed.

[Joe6-2]

Genuinely surprised we have not signed anyone yesterday or today. Appreciate we have brought in 9 new players but in reality we need a couple more at least and some players we have moved on. Hopefully tomorrow is a busy day as it’s needed.

At the very, very least a CM

[Jim44]

I’d have liked McCowan to have just been up front if he’s not coming to us

I don’t think we were ever on his ‘no way’ agenda. We are a probable second choice in the unlikely event of Celtic not putting in a bid. Unless of course an English club come in at the last minute.

[Logie]

At the very, very least a CM

Agreed!

[HoboHarry]

You miserable bunch of ****z need to cheer up, three minimum incoming tomorrow. Popcorn at the ready....😁

[we are hibs]

If no further arrivals materialise, Gray is "delighted" with the business done and says there is "competition for places".


From the BBC. Presumably just your usual setting expectations a bit lower. If we didn't sign anyone this place and social media would break.

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[Hibees1973]

When the Black Knights deal was announced Kensell stated it was a 'game changing' deal for the club. His words.

If Ben is as good as his word we should expect to see the likes of Beck (left back), Kerr (centre half), McCowan (midfield), Dennis (goalkeeper) for example rocking up at Easter Road tomorrow. Know these are just examples and there are other players out there, but these four would go some way to solving the most chronic parts of the side and would be 'game changing' as Ben stated.

This is the first real transfer window since the Black Knights deal.

Maybe some of the players signed so far is a smokescreen and we will see game changing players arriving tomorrow. We will find out tomorrow if Kensell was being honest.

[Paulie Walnuts]

6th or 7th is not a costly sum. Last season 6th paid £1.99m whilst seventh paid £1.83m, £160,000 less. Over the course of a season it makes little difference, and won't influence anyone's budget at the start of the year, especially when only one point could result in being 6th or 7th. No one can budget for that.

If Hibs do sign him for £750,000, they wont get anywhere need the same back in increased prize money, unless its a third place finish. To recoup a transfer fee of £500,000 it needs to be 4th. Presuming the prize money differential stay the same this season.

That doesn’t take into account the infinitely more attractive fixtures in the top half which will see larger crowds than average compared to lower crowds than average in the bottom half.

£750k isn’t a huge amount to make back by performing well. For example, getting to a Scottish Cup semi final against one of the OF wouldn’t be far off making you it back. They’ll likely make about £300k from their upcoming cup game against Rangers, a game which they’ve got to whilst keeping a hold of LMc.

[HoboHarry]

When the Black Knights deal was announced Kensell stated it was a 'game changing' deal for the club. His words.

If Ben is as good as his word we should expect to see the likes of Beck (left back), Kerr (centre half), McCowan (midfield), Dennis (goalkeeper) for example rocking up at Easter Road tomorrow. Know these are just examples and there are other players out there, but these four would go some way to solving the most chronic parts of the side and would be 'game changing' as Ben stated.

This is the first real transfer window since the Black Knights deal.

Maybe some of the players signed so far is a smokescreen and we will see game changing players arriving tomorrow. We will find out tomorrow if Kensell was being honest.

Owen Beck went to Blackburn so you can forget him.

[Bostonhibby]

When the Black Knights deal was announced Kensell stated it was a 'game changing' deal for the club. His words.

If Ben is as good as his word we should expect to see the likes of Beck (left back), Kerr (centre half), McCowan (midfield), Dennis (goalkeeper) for example rocking up at Easter Road tomorrow. Know these are just examples and there are other players out there, but these four would go some way to solving the most chronic parts of the side and would be 'game changing' as Ben stated.

This is the first real transfer window since the Black Knights deal.

Maybe some of the players signed so far is a smokescreen and we will see game changing players arriving tomorrow. We will find out tomorrow if Kensell was being honest.He could be being honest / ambiguous.

It's possible to be "game changing" - to change the game and be worse than before, not much leeway measured against last season but definitely achievable under this board.


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[Heisenberg]

Just reads like more of the same from the Sun on Celtic and McCowan. Still saying “could” make a move and that they might “formalise their interest”.

[NC1875]

When the Black Knights deal was announced Kensell stated it was a 'game changing' deal for the club. His words.

If Ben is as good as his word we should expect to see the likes of Beck (left back), Kerr (centre half), McCowan (midfield), Dennis (goalkeeper) for example rocking up at Easter Road tomorrow. Know these are just examples and there are other players out there, but these four would go some way to solving the most chronic parts of the side and would be 'game changing' as Ben stated.

This is the first real transfer window since the Black Knights deal.

Maybe some of the players signed so far is a smokescreen and we will see game changing players arriving tomorrow. We will find out tomorrow if Kensell was being honest.

Kensell and honest in the same sentence 😂

[Cabbage-Patch]

Found out the left back that was "imminent" according to a poster yesterday

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/juankar/profil/spieler/126625

[NC1875]

Found out the left back that was "imminent" according to a poster yesterday

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/juankar/profil/spieler/126625

Signed another injured player.

Out for a few weeks with a sprained wrist!

[Real Emerald]

I get what you are trying to say but you need to find another analogy.

Whether a member of my extended family through the generations; a member of my HSA branch or my fellow supporters (lads'n'lassies) in the East Stand Singing Section, not one us considers ourselves to be a 'customer' of the club.

We support the club. Through thick and thin, rain and shine, through the bad times, relegation and all. Whilst I agree that sometimes club management can make us feel like mere customers, we are much, much more than that.

GGTTH

Of course I get that. I’ve been at the cinema once in about the last five years dragged along by a 5 year old 😂 but have had a consecutive ST for Easter Rd for around 20 years now. It’s easy to see the attendances drop off lately and more of the same ‘on show’ will only see it get worse at the box office if you like. I’m just using that analogy to highlight the point that you can’t take the fans for granted. Maybe folk like you and I are diehards who will go regardless but not all are like that, it’s a dear game these days.

[Logie]

Signed another injured player.

Out for a few weeks with a sprained wrist!

🤣🤣 he’s familiar with choking chickens.

[hibsbollah]

You miserable bunch of ****z need to cheer up, three minimum incoming tomorrow. Popcorn at the ready....😁

Dani Olmo Ngolo swearfilter and Rodri please. Time to stop fannying about.

[TrinityHFC]

When the Black Knights deal was announced Kensell stated it was a 'game changing' deal for the club. His words.

If Ben is as good as his word we should expect to see the likes of Beck (left back), Kerr (centre half), McCowan (midfield), Dennis (goalkeeper) for example rocking up at Easter Road tomorrow. Know these are just examples and there are other players out there, but these four would go some way to solving the most chronic parts of the side and would be 'game changing' as Ben stated.

This is the first real transfer window since the Black Knights deal.

Maybe some of the players signed so far is a smokescreen and we will see game changing players arriving tomorrow. We will find out tomorrow if Kensell was being honest.
Those players are not exactly game changing. The keeper we just signed has more pedigree than Dennis did when he pitched up Killie.

You forgot to mention the players we did sign already….

Hoilett, Kwon, O’Hora, Bowie for example are of the standard of the players you’ve listed.

[HoboHarry]

Dani Olmo Ngolo swearfilter and Rodri please. Time to stop fannying about.

And Salah for up front. He's out of contract next summer so we'll get him cheap.

[Real Emerald]

I get what you are trying to say but you need to find another analogy.

Whether a member of my extended family through the generations; a member of my HSA branch or my fellow supporters (lads'n'lassies) in the East Stand Singing Section, not one us considers ourselves to be a 'customer' of the club.

We support the club. Through thick and thin, rain and shine, through the bad times, relegation and all. Whilst I agree that sometimes club management can make us feel like mere customers, we are much, much more than that.

GGTTH

Of course I get that. I’ve been at the cinema once in about the last five years dragged along by a 5 year old 😂 but have had a consecutive ST for Easter Rd for around 20 years now (and many many more years with ST or walk up before that). It’s easy to see the attendances drop off lately and more of the same ‘on show’ will only see it get worse at the box office if you like. I’m just using that analogy to highlight the point that you can’t take the fans for granted. Maybe folk like you and I are diehards who will go regardless but not all are like that, it’s a dear game these days.

[04Sauzee]

Another young player leaving Scotland and going down South. 18 year old Brandon Forbes who already had minutes for Dundee Utd in the league cup stages is going to Norwich City for an initial £300k as a development player.

[Lago]

You do know we’ve signed 9 players this window so far?
Yip and apart from Bowie and Myko they fall into the never mind the quality feel the width category.

[Since90+2]

And pay at least triple the wages?

If they don't have to pay close to a million quid in transfer fee tho it massively offsets the difference in wage. Overall it likely wouldn't be that much different as a total outlay.

[JohnM1875]

If they don't have to pay close to a million quid in transfer fee tho it massively offsets the difference in wage. Overall it likely wouldn't be that much different as a total outlay.

Player would get a signing on fee as well. Keep see that being mentioned on here in terms of out of contract players. Didn’t even know it was a thing.

[Jim44]

I’d have liked McCowan to have just been up front if he’s not coming to us

To be fair, you can’t really blame the guy for not burning his boats. I think he probably would have settled for us if Celtic hadn’t been sniffing around.

[04Sauzee]

If they don't have to pay close to a million quid in transfer fee tho it massively offsets the difference in wage. Overall it likely wouldn't be that much different as a total outlay.

More chance of getting a fee back on someone who's what 26? This is likely Stuart Armstrong's last move at 32 , if he's only after a 1 year deal it's probably a no brainer but you'd think he's after longer.

[CapitalGreen]

Yip and apart from Bowie and Myko they fall into the never mind the quality feel the width category.

We signed the 3rd most productive attacking player in the league last season. Only beaten by players who have transferred for £9m and £11m respectively.

[HoboHarry]

🤣🤣 he’s familiar with choking chickens.

Better habit than supporting Hearts.

[Ronniekirk]

I don’t think we were ever on his ‘no way’ agenda. We are a probable second choice in the unlikely event of Celtic not putting in a bid. Unless of course an English club come in at the last minute.
People need to realise Celtic are not interested or he would be at Celtic by now
That’s the reason I think we should have moved on to other targets by now

[Ronniekirk]

To be fair, you can’t really blame the guy for not burning his boats. I think he probably would have settled for us if Celtic hadn’t been sniffing around.
But they aren’t so get real

[JimBHibees]

People need to realise Celtic are not interested or he would be at Celtic by now
That’s the reason I think we should have moved on to other targets by now

If Celtic not interested good reason not to move on

[Lago]

We signed the 3rd most productive attacking player in the league last season. Only beaten by players who have transferred for £9m and £11m respectively.
Not sure what that's got to do with the 9 signed to date?

[AlbertK86]

Signed another injured player.

Out for a few weeks with a sprained wrist!

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[Ronniekirk]

If Celtic not interested good reason not to move on
But they aren’t and yet he hasn’t signed for us Move on

[cabbageandribs1875]

Napoli pay Chelsea £30m for Lukaku, that'll save them a £325k/week Salary

[JimBHibees]

But they aren’t and get he hasn’t signed for us Move on

Think he will tomorrow and if not assume someone else will

[CapitalGreen]

Not sure what that's got to do with the 9 signed to date?

“Never mind the quality feel the width”

Hoilet would surely fall into the quality category, certainly more proven quality than Myko.

[Ronniekirk]

Think he will tomorrow and if not assume someone else will
So why wait till last day of window As far as we know no one else has bid for him So it’s a no brainer if he really wants to move from Dundee

[JeMeSouviens]

So why wait till last day of window As far as we know no one else has bid for him So it’s a no brainer if he really wants to move from Dundee

Maybe he’s Celtc’s backup option if they don’t get their targets and we’re his backup option if they do?

[JimBHibees]

So why wait till last day of window As far as we know no one else has bid for him So it’s a no brainer if he really wants to move from Dundee

Dundee want to flush out the best offer hoping either Hibs panic and increase or another club bids

[Lago]

“Never mind the quality feel the width”

Hoilet would surely fall into the quality category, certainly more proven quality than Myko.
OK I'll give you that, but the 2 keepers, 1 seems to have spent his career as back up, the other no idea where he came from, 2 CH effectively like for like with last season s pairing, maybe not as good, N. Caden may turn out OK but probably a utility player, it just underwhelming.

[Jim44]

But they aren’t so get real


But they aren’t and yet he hasn’t signed for us Move on

I’m real and would have moved on days ago if our ‘leaders’ hadn’t been so deafeningly silent. By the way, unlike you, I think Celtic are interested.

[flash]

I’m real and would have moved on days ago if our ‘leaders’ hadn’t been so deafeningly silent. By the way, unlike you, I think Celtic are interested.

He might end up at Celtic but it will only be as an afterthought.

If they remotely wanted him he would be there by now.

[JimBHibees]

So why wait till last day of window As far as we know no one else has bid for him So it’s a no brainer if he really wants to move from Dundee

Because we still think we will get him

[Lago]

Because we still think we will get him
Especially as it was a done deal nearly 2 weeks ago 😂

[Dashing Bob S]

He might end up at Celtic but it will only be as an afterthought.

If they remotely wanted him he would be there by now.

The way Celtic's finances are now, they would be run out of town by their own fans if they put an offer in for a player of McCowan's level. That's no slight on him, but it's hard to see them now signing any player in Scotland who isn't an absolutely exceptional young talent.

[basehibby]

I can't help but think Hibs have made a mess of this, going after a player we have little change to get. He's more likely to continue being a captain / hero where he is and his stock will rise as this Dundee Team is the best they have had in a long time and could finish in best Premier league position in years..

He can leave end of season with no Transfer fee and a big signing on fee and wage.

It's not taking long because they are negotiating, it's just simply not likely to happen or more likely dead in the water.. The fact we have once again left the signings so late smacks of desperation or just bad management and organisation ( which we are constantly doing) and our hands are clearly tied by paying the amount of players we have who we cant get rid of.

If those players we have to get off the books are out of contract this summer, then it's a more realistic option for us to wait ( yes a transition season) and do business in the Summer.

Might even get Mr Maccowan then too.

I beg to differ.

I detect a very different approach to recent seasons - targeting specific players for specific positions and of a pedigree that would indicate they should slot right in (possible exception being Bursik who is relatively unknown quantity).
As for McCowan, I think we have been ambitious in targeting a player from a rival team who we are all pretty confident would improve us. In going for him early and persistently throughout the window, McCowan is left in no doubt whatsoever that Gray likes him and that he'll be central to our plans if he signs. That's exactly the sort of thing that could tip the balance for a player as long as wages etc are acceptable.
In summary, I've detected a major improvement in our transfer strategy compared to recent seasons. Fingers crossed that will bear fruit in the 24 hours or so that remain.

[Ronniekirk]

Dundee want to flush out the best offer hoping either Hibs panic and increase or another club bids
Not buying that It’s dragged on to long For me it’s time to call Thier bluff and tell them offer off the table and we move on

[basehibby]

Found out the left back that was "imminent" according to a poster yesterday

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/juankar/profil/spieler/126625

Thought that was a piss take at first with his name - absolutely no need for any rhyming slang lols

[Ronniekirk]

I’m real and would have moved on days ago if our ‘leaders’ hadn’t been so deafeningly silent. By the way, unlike you, I think Celtic are interested.
I know they aren’t but hey ho let’s see what happens

[cabbageandribs1875]

Efe Ambrose joins Northern Premier League side Workington

[Cabbage-Patch]

Jhon Espinoza not in Lugano's squad for thier conference league qualifier against Besiktas tonight.

Found the below article saying his agent was offering him to Inter Milan earlier this month :wink:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/football-italia.net/ecuador-free-agent-espinoza-offered-to-inter/amp/

I think this rumour can be filed under b******s

[JimBHibees]

Not buying that It’s dragged on to long For me it’s time to call Thier bluff and tell them offer off the table and we move on

Not buying what that has what has happened

[JimBHibees]

I beg to differ.

I detect a very different approach to recent seasons - targeting specific players for specific positions and of a pedigree that would indicate they should slot right in (possible exception being Bursik who is relatively unknown quantity).
As for McCowan, I think we have been ambitious in targeting a player from a rival team who we are all pretty confident would improve us. In going for him early and persistently throughout the window, McCowan is left in no doubt whatsoever that Gray likes him and that he'll be central to our plans if he signs. That's exactly the sort of thing that could tip the balance for a player as long as wages etc are acceptable.
In summary, I've detected a major improvement in our transfer strategy compared to recent seasons. Fingers crossed that will bear fruit in the 24 hours or so that remain.

Agree with that

[whiskyhibby]

The way Celtic's finances are now, they would be run out of town by their own fans if they put an offer in for a player of McCowan's level. That's no slight on him, but it's hard to see them now signing any player in Scotland who isn't an absolutely exceptional young talent.

Spot on……….not even sure I want Hibs to spend any significant sum on him TBH

[TrinityHFC]

I beg to differ.

I detect a very different approach to recent seasons - targeting specific players for specific positions and of a pedigree that would indicate they should slot right in (possible exception being Bursik who is relatively unknown quantity).
As for McCowan, I think we have been ambitious in targeting a player from a rival team who we are all pretty confident would improve us. In going for him early and persistently throughout the window, McCowan is left in no doubt whatsoever that Gray likes him and that he'll be central to our plans if he signs. That's exactly the sort of thing that could tip the balance for a player as long as wages etc are acceptable.
In summary, I've detected a major improvement in our transfer strategy compared to recent seasons. Fingers crossed that will bear fruit in the 24 hours or so that remain.

Yep, agree.

[Jim44]

The way Celtic's finances are now, they would be run out of town by their own fans if they put an offer in for a player of McCowan's level. That's no slight on him, but it's hard to see them now signing any player in Scotland who isn't an absolutely exceptional young talent.

But the fact remains that Celtic are short on club developed and home (Scotland) developed 1st team squad players for their European squad. This would mean them having to add a young, development squad player which they probably would prefer not to do. If that’s the case, McCowan is a good option for them ……… cheap ( by their standards ) and as good a home based player as they can get. I think they will definitely go for him tomorrow.

[Joe6-2]

Spot on……….not even sure I want Hibs to spend any significant sum on him TBH

That’s how I’m beginning to look at it

[Jim44]

Spot on……….not even sure I want Hibs to spend any significant sum on him TBH


That’s how I’m beginning to look at it

So we continue the season with the dynamic midfield at our disposal. Unless of course there is a plan B to bring in a cheaper, or loan, quality player at the last minute. What are the chances? :rolleyes:

[Smartie]

The way Celtic's finances are now, they would be run out of town by their own fans if they put an offer in for a player of McCowan's level. That's no slight on him, but it's hard to see them now signing any player in Scotland who isn't an absolutely exceptional young talent.

Whilst that’s true, I think they’ve had enough surprisingly good lower profile signings in their history to turn their noses up at unfancied players too much.

When they signed Lubo Moravcik, my then flat mate was up in arms, because at that time they were punching with the big English clubs for signings. He proved to be a big success so I think they can be a bit more patient than we might think.

They’ve got that boy Scales as a starter right now FFS, you’d have thought he’d have been chased out of town long ago.

[Brightside]

So we continue the season with the dynamic midfield at our disposal. Unless of course there is a plan B to bring in a cheaper, or loan, quality player at the last minute. What are the chances? :rolleyes:

We MUST get a player like him this window. At the moment Rudi is the only one other teams would be after. McCowan would be a massive improvement in that area.

[Joe6-2]

So we continue the season with the dynamic midfield at our disposal. Unless of course there is a plan B to bring in a cheaper, or loan, quality player at the last minute. What are the chances? :rolleyes:

My point, plan B should have been activated, one day to go!

[Hibs90]

I think we will get McCowan, no info, just a hunch. I don’t think him alone is enough to transfer the squad into 3rd place challengers, but it’s a start.

[Up-the-slope]

Spot on……….not even sure I want Hibs to spend any significant sum on him TBH

I have been in this camp for a couple of weeks - he is barely above what we have and we actually need 3 or 4 players - spending big on one player unless they are exceptional will just make things worse in medium term. He will not have great sell on value as well which in bigger picture should be significant consideration.

[greenlex]

My point, plan B should have been activated, one day to go!
Like every other club on the planet plan B is just that. If plan A is still alive we stay with that until it’s not just like every other club. If there is something else at play whether that be another club in the mix or the player himself changing his mind for whatever reason there’s not a lot more that can be done other than plan B. If that turns out to be a non starter it’s onto plan C etc etc etc. We all of course do not know the state of play of any if the plans re ultimatums etc. There is absolutely no point in getting pissed off as whatever will be will be. We will all know one way or another in about 25 hrs or less.

[Cabbage-Patch]

Just watched David Grays press conference from earlier today. Dosent fill me with confidence there will be much movement next 24 hours. I think there will be 1 or 2 outgoings however I wouldn't be surprised if we don't sign anyone else this window. Can see a young CB coming in on loan possibly but not much else if anything.

Gray emphasised they are only looking to sign players who will improve us (rightly so)otherwise he's "delighted" with what we already have. Being very careful to manage expectations.

Genuinely think the club will just be treading water this season and realistic aim will be to try and get top 6 and get through to the of the end of the season when we can offload the majority of these ridiculous due to expire contracts that have been dished out last few years

[ferry hibby]

But the fact remains that Celtic are short on club developed and home (Scotland) developed 1st team squad players for their European squad. This would mean them having to add a young, development squad player which they probably would prefer not to do. If that’s the case, McCowan is a good option for them ……… cheap ( by their standards ) and as good a home based player as they can get. I think they will definitely go for him tomorrow.
I can actually see Celtic picking him up for £500K. McCowan will tell Dundee it’s Celtic or nobody and Dundee will want to at least something rather than lose him for nothing in January

[Joe6-2]

Just watched David Grays press conference from earlier today. Dosent fill me with confidence there will be much movement next 24 hours. I think there will be 1 or 2 outgoings however I wouldn't be surprised if we don't sign anyone else this window. Can see a young CB coming in on loan possibly but not much else if anything.

Gray emphasised they are only looking to sign players who will improve us (rightly so)otherwise he's "delighted" with what we already have. Being very careful to manage expectations.

Genuinely think the club will just be treading water this season and realistic aim will be to try and get top 6 and get through to the of the end of the season when we can offload the majority of these ridiculous due to expire contracts that have been dished out last few years

I know we have to get rid of some but how on earth can he be ‘delighted’ with anything at ER right now?

[greenlex]

I know we have to get rid of some but how on earth can he be ‘delighted’ with anything at ER right now?
Possibly because he’s working with them on a daily basis. Particularly the new recruits and he likes what he’s seeing.

[whiskyhibby]

So we continue the season with the dynamic midfield at our disposal. Unless of course there is a plan B to bring in a cheaper, or loan, quality player at the last minute. What are the chances? :rolleyes:

I don’t think anyone said that, just in this case a significant fee doesn’t look like good value., high chance he would be another Danny Swanson

[JimBHibees]

I know we have to get rid of some but how on earth can he be ‘delighted’ with anything at ER right now?

Maybe he has created a positive environment and he is enjoying the atmosphere at the moment. We really need to give the club a chance to improve

[B.H.F.C]

I know we have to get rid of some but how on earth can he be ‘delighted’ with anything at ER right now?

Managers say the same things all the time.

If the window is closed and our squad is what it is just now, there’s no way he’s going to be delighted.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Maybe he has created a positive environment and he is enjoying the atmosphere at the moment. We really need to give the club a chance to improve
We are crying out for something to get behind here. After a couple of really dull seasons it's getting so tiring it just has to improve no excuses.

I thought you could see quality with some of our signings on Saturday but with no link-ups developing or no real plan of how to get us playing forward. As the weeks go by we can only improve. Time for DG now to show what he is made of.

[HoboHarry]

Transfer Day Eve and I'm so excited I could pee. Will we be celebrating wildly by end of day or grabbing the pitchforks and flaming torches and storming Fortress Gordon? 😁

[basehibby]

So we continue the season with the dynamic midfield at our disposal. Unless of course there is a plan B to bring in a cheaper, or loan, quality player at the last minute. What are the chances? :rolleyes:

The chances are very good I expect. Would be gobsmacked if there is no plan B to McCowan.

[Tricla]

I sometimes think things are seemingly left to the last day to create deadline day drama. Deals are probably done already but left unrevealed until the last minute to boost snack sales. Fingers crossed that's the case!

[Winston Ingram]

We need a centre back more than we need McCowan

[JimBHibees]

We are crying out for something to get behind here. After a couple of really dull seasons it's getting so tiring it just has to improve no excuses.

I thought you could see quality with some of our signings on Saturday but with no link-ups developing or no real plan of how to get us playing forward. As the weeks go by we can only improve. Time for DG now to show what he is made of.

So we aren’t going to give him much time

[JohnM1875]

Let the craziness commence. When we expecting our first in or out. I'm going 11am Kenneh out on loan.

[04Sauzee]

Scott Wright to Birmingham for 300k Cantwell away for about 600k, doesn't seem much when Celtic sell Johnston for about 3m and Bosun Lawall for a reported couple of million

[Paul1642]

I can actually see Celtic picking him up for £500K. McCowan will tell Dundee it’s Celtic or nobody and Dundee will want to at least something rather than lose him for nothing in January

No way. We have already had a bid over that amount rejected. That would be terrible bad club management from Dundee.

[Steve20]

We need a centre back more than we need McCowan

No chance. If we're still playing the likes of Campbell and Newell as first choices, then just forget any challenge for 3rd or 4th.

And if we're not aiming for 3rd or 4th, then we just shouldn't bother bringing anyone in, as it's a non season already.

If we want to challenge, then midfield is priority today and not any under 21 loan from England, who has no experience.

After that, it's a keeper, centre back and a new left back. Not that we'll bring in all that though.

[GreenCastle]

We need a centre back more than we need McCowan

We do need to stop leaking goals so any upgrades on the back 5 (including GK) would be welcome.

But if we aren’t getting LM then Plan B starting midfielder.

[MWHIBBIES]

We need a centre back more than we need McCowan

We really don't. O'Hora and Ekpiteta better than having to play Campbell and NMW imo.

[MWHIBBIES]

No chance. If we're still playing the likes of Campbell and Newell as first choices, then just forget any challenge for 3rd or 4th.

And if we're not aiming for 3rd or 4th, then we just shouldn't bother bringing anyone in, as it's a non season already.

If we want to challenge, then midfield is priority today and not any under 21 loan from England, who has no experience.

After that, it's a keeper, centre back and a new left back. Not that we'll bring in all that though.

Newell will continue to be an important player regardless of getting McCowan.

[04Sauzee]

Some talk from Jambos that Sam Cosgrove may be signing for them , can't believe he's still only 27

Also talk that Shankland could be out for a while

[Logie]

No be much work getting done today.. cmon hibs!!

[Trinity Hibee]

Some talk from Jambos that Sam Cosgrove may be signing for them , can't believe he's still only 27

Also talk that Shankland could be out for a while

Naismith wasn’t convincing last night when asked if shankland would be fit for weekend so you could be right

[we are hibs]

"Hibs will look to bring another couple of players before Friday's 11pm deadline. A new centre-half will be targeted, although it won't be Bournemouth's Owen Bevan. The Welshman is still not fully fit after picking up a thigh injury last month. They are also in the market for a defensive-minded midfielder and would also like to bring in another striker to compete with Kieron Bowie and Mykola Kuharevych."


From the Scotsman.

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[Pytheas]

CM priority, closely followed by a starting CB. Low priority are LB, Youan replacement if he goes, and Goalie.

I think we will get a CM and an LB who can cover centre half.

A few out but think McKirdy, Jair, and JDH will have no takers and will stay.

[hibstag]

Some talk from Jambos that Sam Cosgrove may be signing for them , can't believe he's still only 27

Also talk that Shankland could be out for a while

I have a feeling that 'shanks' is quickly moving from being a no less than 5 Million 'best Scottish striker in a generation' to a get a nominal fee before he signs a pre contract ' for many jambos

[CapitalGreen]

Arsenal signing Neto from Bournemouth on loan which will push Will Dennis back up the pecking order.

[Heisenberg]

"Hibs will look to bring another couple of players before Friday's 11pm deadline. A new centre-half will be targeted, although it won't be Bournemouth's Owen Bevan. The Welshman is still not fully fit after picking up a thigh injury last month. They are also in the market for a defensive-minded midfielder and would also like to bring in another striker to compete with Kieron Bowie and Mykola Kuharevych."

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I thought Kwon was meant to be the defensive minded midfielder? Surely we don’t need another

[JohnM1875]

"Hibs will look to bring another couple of players before Friday's 11pm deadline. A new centre-half will be targeted, although it won't be Bournemouth's Owen Bevan. The Welshman is still not fully fit after picking up a thigh injury last month. They are also in the market for a defensive-minded midfielder and would also like to bring in another striker to compete with Kieron Bowie and Mykola Kuharevych."


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First article of the day distancing ourselves from McCowan (no mention). Surely we hear more about it soon? Maybe a wee Hibs Observer article

[Pytheas]

https://x.com/AnthonyRJoseph/status/1829218430337360274

Celtic missing out/ moving on from a midfield target.

Can't be good news for us, how far down their list of back up options is McCowan.

Also missed out on that Bogusz from LA.

Have to hope they go back in for these guys instead.

[04Sauzee]

https://x.com/AnthonyRJoseph/status/1829218430337360274

Celtic missing out/ moving on from a midfield target.

Can't be good news for us, how far down their list of back up options is McCowan.

I thought they had binned that move yesterday? Thought he was the back up to their new record signing.

[Joe6-2]

Managers say the same things all the time.

If the window is closed and our squad is what it is just now, there’s no way he’s going to be delighted.

That’s what I meant

[Pytheas]

I thought they had binned that move yesterday? Thought he was the back up to their new record signing.

Rodgers has been clear that if O'reilly went then they need 2 new midfielders. Engels is his replacement, now they need to go and get the back up that they needed anyway. Unfortunately McCowan makes sense for that. 1mil max, homegrown, celtic fan etc.

[Heisenberg]

https://x.com/AnthonyRJoseph/status/1829218430337360274

Celtic missing out/ moving on from a midfield target.

Can't be good news for us, how far down their list of back up options is McCowan.

Also missed out on that Bogusz from LA.

Have to hope they go back in for these guys instead.

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/arne-engels-celtic-transfer-spend-29833027

This from yesterday says they are happy with Engels being their only midfield signing. Still don’t see us signing McCowan now, if it was going to happen we’d have heard about it.

[easty]

Rodgers has been clear that if O'reilly went then they need 2 new midfielders. Engels is his replacement, now they need to go and get the back up that they needed anyway. Unfortunately McCowan makes sense for that. 1mil max, homegrown, celtic fan etc.

Why do they need a homegrown player to replace a player who isn’t homegrown?

[04Sauzee]

Why do they need a homegrown player to replace a player who isn’t homegrown?

They sold or are selling Mikey Johnston

[Dmas]

Why do they need a homegrown player to replace a player who isn’t homegrown?

Mikey Johnston and dean kelly ( i think was his name left for millwall) they counted as homegrown

[flash]

Not saying they won't sign him, personally I would be surprised if they did, but there's no way they are shelling out the thick part of a million and paying good wages to someone just to tick a box for UEFA.

[Joe6-2]

Victor Osimhen to Al-Ahli, £67 mil

[Jones28]

Not saying they won't sign him, personally I would be surprised if they did, but there's no way they are shelling out the thick part of a million and paying good wages to someone just to tick a box for UEFA.

They will if its the difference in the Champions League, especially having just bagged £25m. It's peanuts for them.

[snedzuk]

They will if its the difference in the Champions League, especially having just bagged £25m. It's peanuts for them.

This. I know they may not actually have £25m overnight, but the interest alone on that sum would buy McCowan with change left over for a Ferrari.

[Springbank]

some chat doing the rounds that Shankland has done his medial ligament

[Paulie Walnuts]

some chat doing the rounds that Shankland has done his medial ligament

I mean this sincerely, I wouldn’t wish injury on anybody.

From a sporting point of view though, we really wanted Hearts to lose Shankland. Losing him with no fee coming in would be… pleasing.

[easty]

Mikey Johnston and dean kelly ( i think was his name left for millwall) they counted as homegrown

But they still have

Bain
Scales
Welsh
Ralston
Taylor
Mcgregor
McCarthy
Forest

And that’s without speaking about any young guys they have coming through.

I just dinnae see them spending the money on a player they don’t need and who isn’t good enough for them, just to fill a quota they can already fill.

[Pytheas]

Not saying they won't sign him, personally I would be surprised if they did, but there's no way they are shelling out the thick part of a million and paying good wages to someone just to tick a box for UEFA.

I suppose there's also the fact that he's a good player. The homegrown thing won't make them sign him but it's definitely a positive.

I've said all along that i'd be surprised if they sign him, he's just not on their level but the more midfielders they move on from the more likely it becomes surely.

I know he's not Zidane but i'd be gutted if we don't sign him at this point.

[greenlex]

some chat doing the rounds that Shankland has done his medial ligament

Must be some stress on it carrying around that size of a forehead.

[blackpoolhibs]

some chat doing the rounds that Shankland has done his medial ligament
Oh god i hope not.

[Dmas]

Not saying they won't sign him, personally I would be surprised if they did, but there's no way they are shelling out the thick part of a million and paying good wages to someone just to tick a box for UEFA.

they've banked about 50m in transfer fee's and in champs league, 750k and 4-5k a week is peanuts to them, i agree he's not a player id imagine getting many games there, but he ticks a cheap option to tide them over box

[AlbertK86]

First article of the day distancing ourselves from McCowan (no mention). Surely we hear more about it soon? Maybe a wee Hibs Observer article

Eh … McCowan is mentioned as a target in the headline and earlier in the article !!

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-transfers-luke-mccowan-chase-defensive-targets-three-players-can-go-what-to-expect-on-deadline-day-4761890


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[JohnM1875]

Eh … McCowan is mentioned as a target in the headline and earlier in the article !!

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-transfers-luke-mccowan-chase-defensive-targets-three-players-can-go-what-to-expect-on-deadline-day-4761890


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Link wasn't posted by the poster I quoted 👍

Be very surprised if we’re looking to add McCowan and a defensive Mid. Happily surprised though.

[weecounty hibby]

Oh god i hope not.

I applaud your humanity and concern for a fellow human being!!

[Hibby70]

some chat doing the rounds that Shankland has done his medial ligament

Had he eaten it?

[WestStandWillie]

Deadline Day Predictions:

Two loans in (CH and ST)

Jair and Kenneh away permanently
Delf and McKirdy away on loan

There'll be whispers about another bid for McCowan but that'll be that and he'll remain a Dundee player. Wouldn't surprise me if he signed a new contract today.

[SHODAN]

some chat doing the rounds that Shankland has done his medial ligament

Yeah I would never wish that on anyone, terrible news for the guy if true.

[hibbie02]

So we continue the season with the dynamic midfield at our disposal. Unless of course there is a plan B to bring in a cheaper, or loan, quality player at the last minute. What are the chances? :rolleyes:

You are forgetting that JDH is getting back to fitness and Plan B wouldn't be needed. We would have the Holy Trinity back together of Newell, Campbell and JDH. :hibees

[Callum_62]

Depending on severity that could only be about 4-6 weeks out

Hardly that bad



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[TrinityHFC]

Yeah I would never wish that on anyone, terrible news for the guy if true.

Medial? A few weeks usually..

[Squealing pig]

Heard a guy saying last night that shankland could be away that’s why he was rested yesterday . Hopefully true

[JohnM1875]

Heard a guy saying last night that shankland could be away that’s why he was rested yesterday . Hopefully true

Dunno how I feel about that. Probably means them getting at least 1/1.5mil. I'd prefer he stayed, continues being pish and signs a pre-contract with someone in Jan.

[Paul1642]

Yeah I would never wish that on anyone, terrible news for the guy if true.

I never wish an injury on anyone but it’s not exactly career ending. Hearts losing the guys who scored over 30 goals for them last season for a few months, derby inclusive is good news for us.

They were expect to sell him for millions this summer. Instead they have kept him and he’s potentially out for a month or two then take another month to get up to fitness (he was not exactly looking in shape pre Injury). Out of contact in May.

[Dmas]

Ivan Toney away to saudi £40m

[Ozyhibby]

Big day for Gray and Hibs. If midfield doesn’t get sorted it won’t end well for him or us.[emoji1696][emoji1696][emoji1696]


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[superfurryhibby]

But they still have

Bain
Scales
Welsh
Ralston
Taylor
Mcgregor
McCarthy
Forest

And that’s without speaking about any young guys they have coming through.

I just dinnae see them spending the money on a player they don’t need and who isn’t good enough for them, just to fill a quota they can already fill.

They won't but some posters seem to enjoy posting the same *****.

[ruthven_raiders]

Big day for Gray and Hibs. If midfield doesn’t get sorted it won’t end well for him or us.[emoji1696][emoji1696][emoji1696]


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Can say that about defence too....

[bod]

Dunno how I feel about that. Probably means them getting at least 1/1.5mil. I'd prefer he stayed, continues being pish and signs a pre-contract with someone in Jan.

if hes pish why wouldnt you want him to stay where he is ?if they sell him his replacement might not be pish

[04Sauzee]

They won't but some posters seem to enjoy posting the same *****.

There was a very good thread on twitter by a Celtic account a number of days ago saying why it would make sense. Not one Celtic fan called it **** .

[Dmas]

But they still have

Bain
Scales
Welsh
Ralston
Taylor
Mcgregor
McCarthy
Forest

And that’s without speaking about any young guys they have coming through.

I just dinnae see them spending the money on a player they don’t need and who isn’t good enough for them, just to fill a quota they can already fill.


They won't but some posters seem to enjoy posting the same *****.

what I have said previously on this is they are scraping to meet the quota, the fact easty has listed McCarthy a guy who has barely kicked a ball for them proves my point, they have a squad of 25 to pick, 8 have to be homegrown if you can have 8 who can effect a game of football your laughing, id think mccowan could do that if needed and could be used more than a young kid who also isn't kicking a ball first team wise, I dont think Celtic will sign him but there's merit in the reasoning behind him being linked IMO

[GreenPJ]

what I have said previously on this is they are scraping to meet the quota, the fact easty has listed McCarthy a guy who has barely kicked a ball for them proves my point, they have a squad of 25 to pick, 8 have to be homegrown if you can have 8 who can effect a game of football your laughing, id think mccowan could do that if needed and could be used more than a young kid who also isn't kicking a ball first team wise, I dont think Celtic will sign him but there's merit in the reasoning behind him being linked IMO

Good points although I do wonder if them having lost the lad Kelly that they may want to try and promote a couple of their youngsters to try and have them hanging around for longer and give them some game time to then increase their value if they do elect to sell them.

[Dmas]

Good points although I do wonder if them having lost the lad Kelly that they may want to try and promote a couple of their youngsters to try and have them hanging around for longer and give them some game time to then increase their value if they do elect to sell them.

could be right there as well they are losing a lot of youngsters not getting an oppertunity

[GloryGlory]

what I have said previously on this is they are scraping to meet the quota, the fact easty has listed McCarthy a guy who has barely kicked a ball for them proves my point, they have a squad of 25 to pick, 8 have to be homegrown if you can have 8 who can effect a game of football your laughing, id think mccowan could do that if needed and could be used more than a young kid who also isn't kicking a ball first team wise, I dont think Celtic will sign him but there's merit in the reasoning behind him being linked IMO

Celtic invest a lot in their development team. You wonder why if most if not all of them don't get a chance to move up to the first team squad.

[JohnM1875]

if hes pish why wouldnt you want him to stay where he is ?if they sell him his replacement might not be pish

That's the point I was making. I'd rather he stayed and continued being pish. Then sign for someone else on a pre-contract in Jan.

[NGoloGrantie]

Dan jebbison signs for Watford


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[Joe6-2]

Are we the same in Scotland as England, you have to sign before noon to be able to play this weekend?