Summer 2019 transfer thread

[The_Horde]

I can see that. Still think it’s bizarre arguing with fellow Hibs fans because your insistent that Hearts new signing is superb. And then to make the childish comment that our new signing must be superb because he is signing for Hibs. I just don’t get it. Perhaps I need another long break from this site (like many I know I have done).

I think you'll find that others were arguing about my opinion that Halkett is superb. I think you're being a bit precious if an internet discussion forum has you needing a break.

[500miles]

Josh Mceachran an old rumour, more likely now top two leagues down south are done with signings?

[The 90+2]

Why? Another post to get a reaction from folk

It’s not really.

He’s clearly making the point he’s not allowed to have a positive view on a player they have signed because he gets rounded on. Yet if he gave the same opinion on the boy if he signed here he wouldn’t be having a dictionary shoved down his throat.

[weecounty hibby]

Josh Mceachran an old rumour, more likely now top two leagues down south are done with signings?
Oi, this is the talking ***** thread. Find another place for your meaningless transfer talk

[Barman Stanton]

I think you'll find that others were arguing about my opinion that Halkett is superb. I think you're being a bit precious if an internet discussion forum has you needing a break.

It’s constant though. There are the same few posters who seem to get off on antagonising Hibs fans.

I’m far from precious. I just think my time may be better placed than reading the likes of the nonsense on this thread. If I want to know how good Hearts new signings are I will ask my Jambo mates.

[dchibs]

Middleton on loan next week mate

Apart from that nothing to report

Can someone tell me what type of player Middleton is, has he played against us, is he fast, direct, tricky,hard worker, puts good crosses in, got goals in him and not afraid to tackle, not really herd much about him.

[The 90+2]

Josh Mceachran an old rumour, more likely now top two leagues down south are done with signings?

He’s on trial down South. He would be a great signing if we could get him.

[Allant1981]

It’s not really.

He’s clearly making the point he’s not allowed to have a positive view on a player they have signed because he gets rounded on. Yet if he gave the same opinion on the boy if he signed here he wouldn’t be having a dictionary shoved down his throat.

Not really, there have been plenty posts about our players recently, some good, some not so good

[Barman Stanton]

I wasn't going to bite because enough of this thread has been hijacked away from the focus of the title. However, I have to agree with you and something feels wrong about their posts, it's almost like they are trying to change this from a Hibs forum into an offshoot of Keekback. Something I find distasteful to say the least. We should discuss the merits of our players and leave them to discuss theirs.

Agreed. Very few of my mates come on here now, it’s easy to see why. I mean Hibs fans fighting in among themselves about how ‘superb’ Hearts signing from Livi is!? Wtf?

[The_Horde]

It’s constant though. There are the same few posters who seem to get off on antagonising Hibs fans.

I’m far from precious. I just think my time may be better placed than reading the likes of the nonsense on this thread. If I want to know how good Hearts new signings are I will ask my Jambo mates.

Fail to see where anyone has antagonised anybody. If they have then they're very short tempered if simply praising a player hearts have signed is enough to do get them hot and bothered.

[BILLYHIBS]

Can someone tell me what type of player Middleton is, has he played against us, is he fast, direct, tricky,hard worker, puts good crosses in, got goals in him and not afraid to tackle, not really herd much about him.

He is superb!

Only joking

Every quality you mentioned there sums him up young high energy fearless

Started really well with the Hun but through no fault of his own dropped out of the picture

Should prove a mutually beneficent move for both parties

[500miles]

He’s on trial down South. He would be a great signing if we could get him.

Apparently not going to Sheffield Wednesday due to the managerial situation. Had he been taken on trial elsewhere?

[BILLYHIBS]

Brandon Barker is a Hun!

Signed on 3 year contract

SSN

[dchibs]

He is superb!

Only joking

Every quality you mentioned there sums him up young high energy fearless

Started really well with the Hun but through no fault of his own dropped out of the picture

Should prove a mutually beneficent move for both parties

sounds like a good player Billy, did he play against us at any time?

[Torto7]

Apparently not going to Sheffield Wednesday due to the managerial situation. Had he been taken on trial elsewhere?

The fact he's going out on trial means he probably hasn't had the interest he was hoping for. If we have any inkling he'd consider us then we should be all over it. The boy is class I've watched him for Brentford several times and he'd be a perfect fit in our midfield.

[BILLYHIBS]

sounds like a good player Billy, did he play against us at any time?

Came on for the last five in a 0-0 at ER 19/12/18

[The 90+2]

Brandon Barker is a Hun!

Signed on 3 year contract

SSN

Bad luck to the prick!

[The 90+2]

Apparently not going to Sheffield Wednesday due to the managerial situation. Had he been taken on trial elsewhere?

Blackburn, I read somewhere.

[500miles]

Blackburn, I read somewhere.

He's a Tony Mowbray kind of player I think.

[weecounty hibby]

Bad luck to the prick!
Yip, hopefully he has a completely stinking 3 years football wise

[BILLYHIBS]

sounds like a good player Billy, did he play against us at any time?

Started Boxing Day at Ibroke 1-1 Darren MacGregor got hooked

[Aim Here]

Hecky reiterating on Hibs TV that he's happy with the current signings, other than the replacement for Boyle, presumably Middleton.

[SteveHFC]

Hecky reiterating on Hibs TV that he's happy with the current signings, other than the replacement for Boyle, presumably Middleton.

Going to be a long season I think. Still need another striker and a midfielder.

[The 90+2]

Going to be a long season I think. Still need another striker and a midfielder.

With one up top mainly I don’t think another striker will be coming in. There’s a glaring gap for a midfielder though.

[davhibby]

Going to be a long season I think. Still need another striker and a midfielder.

I'm still pretty confident he's just tempering expectations of loads of signings. Pretty much the exact opposite of Lennon last year who was promising signings in the next few days all summer. We'll end up with someone in at least 1 of those positions imo

[calumhibee1]

Josh Mceachran an old rumour, more likely now top two leagues down south are done with signings?

If he doesn’t have a club then championship teams in England can sign him any time I would think.

[pacorosssco]

If he doesn’t have a club then championship teams in England can sign him any time I would think.

He's out our price range still

[calumhibee1]

He's out our price range still

I know nothing about the guy to be honest.

[J-C]

IIRC when Efe left there was plenty people on here saying we should be going for Halkett a s he was a pretty decent CH, suddenly anyone who still thinks this is a troll because he now plays for Hearts instead of Livi, no matter who he signed for Halkett is a good solid Premier standard CH who will do well at Hearts.

[Torto7]

I'm still pretty confident he's just tempering expectations of loads of signings. Pretty much the exact opposite of Lennon last year who was promising signings in the next few days all summer. We'll end up with someone in at least 1 of those positions imo

I hope so. I'm getting the feeling that money is being kept back though. 7 in and far more out. Where did the MM and Omeonga funds go? Was the fee S****horpe agreed to used as a signing on fee for Vela. That's a big signing on fee if that's the case. The Mcginn money? I'm presuming the extra 500k from the debt being cleared is available if we wish to use it.

Presumably it's for this indoor facility. I'm not familiar with Project Brave, do we have to have this? How many clubs in Scotland actually have full size indoor pitches anyway. What's the benefit for us in the long run? I must admit I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to this and a little skeptical about any plan than comes from the incompetent SFA.

Another signing or two and I really like this squad.

[SquashedFrogg]

I'm still pretty confident he's just tempering expectations of loads of signings. Pretty much the exact opposite of Lennon last year who was promising signings in the next few days all summer. We'll end up with someone in at least 1 of those positions imo

Maybe not loads but I'd doubt very much that's us finished in the transfer market.

Cards close to chest and all that.

[Torto7]

Maybe not loads but I'd doubt very much that's us finished in the transfer market.

Cards close to chest and all that.

I don't know. I thought that initially but I've just watched his press conference and he mentions finances not changing and nobody else coming in.

[Speedway]

Manager suggesting we’ve spent up by saying:

‘We’d like to do something but the situation with our finances hasn’t changed’

[SquashedFrogg]

I don't know. I thought that initially but I've just watched his press conference and he mentions finances not changing and nobody else coming in.

Just watched it too. I'd be more worried if he said "we were looking a midfielder, striker, etc - we've got plenty cash and really sure we will get them".

Selling clubs would be rubbing their hands and fans expectations would go through the roof.

[SquashedFrogg]

Manager suggesting we’ve spent up by saying:

‘We’d like to do something but the situation with our finances hasn’t changed’

Possible red herring? (Genuinely not a pun btw).

[Centre Hawf]

Manager suggesting we’ve spent up by saying:

‘We’d like to do something but the situation with our finances hasn’t changed’

I find that a bit alarming.

[SquashedFrogg]

I find that a bit alarming.

Do believe everything a manager says to a journalist?

[Kato]

Halkett is a good solid Premier standard CH who will do well at Hearts.


I don't think anyone was disagreeing with that kind of assessment.

[Billy Whizz]

Hoping the player Hearts have just signed is another Malaury Martin
Apart from a 2 year spell at Cardiff, nothing else on his CV is impressive

[JimBHibees]

Maybe not loads but I'd doubt very much that's us finished in the transfer market.

Cards close to chest and all that.

Yep usual manager chat. No big deal.

[oldbutdim]

I can't. But I can tell you he's superb because he signed for Hibs.

If he'd signed for hearts he'd be a terrible signing.

Cracking!

More trolling.

Obvious to everyone apart from Poster D presumably.

[oldbutdim]

I think you'll find that others were arguing about my opinion that Halkett is superb. I think you're being a bit precious if an internet discussion forum has you needing a break.


I wasn’t.

It was your claim on how often you watched LIVINGSTON

Anyway, I’m off now or I’ll be just as guilty of trolling as you and Poster D

[SHODAN]

I don't think it's at all controversial to think that Damour will be a good signing for Hearts and would have possibly fit in very well at us - as a DM he'd be the missing piece in the puzzle.

I hope we're still looking for one.

[bingo70]

I don't think it's at all controversial to think that Damour will be a good signing for Hearts and would have possibly fit in very well at us - as a DM he'd be the missing piece in the puzzle.

I hope we're still looking for one.

I don’t think controversial is the right word but I do think it’s weird people who have hardly seen him play creaming themselves about how good he is when there’s very little on his cv to suggest that’s the case.

He might end up being brilliant but I’m not going to whip myself into a frenzy worrying about why we never went for him.

[Allant1981]

I don’t think controversial is the right word but I do think it’s weird people who have hardly seen him play creaming themselves about how good he is when there’s very little on his cv to suggest that’s the case.

He might end up being brilliant but I’m not going to whip myself into a frenzy worrying about why we never went for him.

Yip exactly, unless folk watch these guys every week we have little idea how they will play

[The 90+2]

IIRC when Efe left there was plenty people on here saying we should be going for Halkett a s he was a pretty decent CH, suddenly anyone who still thinks this is a troll because he now plays for Hearts instead of Livi, no matter who he signed for Halkett is a good solid Premier standard CH who will do well at Hearts.

Don’t be expecting much of a reasoned reply to that. You’re too established (no offence) to be gang up on and your reply is too reasoned to argue. The poster (jambo to some, just random poster to others) put in “superb” and now he’s the devil.

[The 90+2]

Do believe everything a manager says to a journalist?

Or player.

“Ojo is one we have tracked all pre-season and thought we had him before we realised S****horpe due a fee, even then we bid for him to move the goal posts”

“Vela is a player we have had to be patient with but demonstrated how much we wanted him by waiting all summer”

Either one was back up or he wanted both meaning he would still like a midfielder considering one of the players we waited for ages went elsewhere.

[GreenCastle]

Seems we will sign Middleton - but agree with others.

We don’t have a natural defensive midfielder- Vela isn’t natural to that.

[Lago]

Manager suggesting we’ve spent up by saying:

‘We’d like to do something but the situation with our finances hasn’t changed’

If he's being honest were in for a long hard & not very productive season.

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Manager suggesting we’ve spent up by saying:

‘We’d like to do something but the situation with our finances hasn’t changed’

Ron Gordon never bought hibs to build a football team

[Real Emerald]

Yep usual manager chat. No big deal.

I honesty can’t think of why he would say that if he didn’t mean it, I for one think he’s telling it as it is otherwise he would say he’s still on the lookout. It’s very disappointing and puts a dampener on things when fans can see obvious gaps in the squad during the transfer window and your manager comes out with these gems. Crazy talk if he’s not done yet!

[The 90+2]

I don’t think controversial is the right word but I do think it’s weird people who have hardly seen him play creaming themselves about how good he is when there’s very little on his cv to suggest that’s the case.

He might end up being brilliant but I’m not going to whip myself into a frenzy worrying about why we never went for him.

If it’s weird without many seeing him play then the same could be said about any of our signings apart from Allan. We are crying out for a defensive midfielder in the middle of the pitch. They seem to have gotten one. Until we get one, when w team around us sign what looks quality you are going to get remarks on them going to other sides.

[The 90+2]

Ron Gordon never bought hibs to build a football team

Should be the title of another thread if you would like to elaborate?

[Since452]

Ron Gordon never bought hibs to build a football team

Ron said the budget wouldn't change this season

[bingo70]

If it’s weird without many seeing him play then the same could be said about any of our signings apart from Allan. We are crying out for a defensive midfielder in the middle of the pitch. They seem to have gotten one. Until we get one, when w team around us sign what looks quality you are going to get remarks on them going to other sides.

Heckers has addressed that, he doesn’t want a defensive midfielder, he wants midfielders that can tackle.

I’m not convinced we’ve had a great summer recruitment wise, I don’t see what looks like quality about this guy though? 29 games for Cardiff in 2 years, think someone said many of them as a sub? Before that he went from one bang average club to another. Looks to me like he’s living off his youth career in the French set up.

[The 90+2]

Heckers has addressed that, he doesn’t want a defensive midfielder, he wants midfielders that can tackle.

I’m not convinced we’ve had a great summer recruitment wise, I don’t see what looks like quality about this guy though? 29 games for Cardiff in 2 years, think someone said many of them as a sub? Before that he went from one bang average club to another. Looks to me like he’s living off his youth career in the French set up.

He was very highly rated before Cardiff and I remember watching them to see how Paterson was doing down there and Damour stood out for another hoofballing side as a combative midfielder.

We need a DM imo. Ignoring it is mental especially when playing one up top and expecting more from the likes of Allan and Mallan to put their legs in. Let the creative players play football.

Would Hecky have wanted Allan had he had not agreed a deal? It would be interesting to know deep down if so.

[MikeyS]

If it’s weird without many seeing him play then the same could be said about any of our signings apart from Allan. We are crying out for a defensive midfielder in the middle of the pitch. They seem to have gotten one. Until we get one, when w team around us sign what looks quality you are going to get remarks on them going to other sides.

We arent crying out for one according to PH, I've heard him say numerous times he wants his midfielders to be attacking & defensive in their play. I dont think we will see anyone come in that is just going to sit in front of the back four. I do think we will get 1 more after Middleton though.

[The 90+2]

Ron said the budget wouldn't change this season

He’s not going to want to own a mid table side in Scotland for no reason so he probably will have to invest big time.

[MikeyS]

He was very highly rated before Cardiff and I remember watching them to see how Paterson was doing down there and Damour stood out for another hoofballing side as a combative midfielder.

We need a DM imo. Ignoring it is mental especially when playing one up top and expecting more from the likes of Allan and Mallan to put their legs in. Let the creative players play football.

Would Hecky have wanted Allan had he had not agreed a deal? It would be interesting to know deep down if so.

I dont think he would have took Allan if the hard work wasnt already done.

[Brightside]

If it’s weird without many seeing him play then the same could be said about any of our signings apart from Allan. We are crying out for a defensive midfielder in the middle of the pitch. They seem to have gotten one. Until we get one, when w team around us sign what looks quality you are going to get remarks on them going to other sides.

We did sign one. This place is truly mental.

[Heisenberg]

Would Hecky have wanted Allan had he had not agreed a deal? It would be interesting to know deep down if so.

I’ve seen a couple say this now. Why does it actually matter? He’s here and Heckingbottom has been absolutely full of praise for him, while also saying he needs to improve in some areas. He’s played regularly in pre season and started our first league game.

[The 90+2]

We arent crying out for one according to PH, I've heard him say numerous times he wants his midfielders to be attacking & defensive in their play. I dont think we will see anyone come in that is just going to sit in front of the back four. I do think we will get 1 more after Middleton though.

Do you personally think that’s enough? So far not enough is being done to protect the back line, even St Mirren exploited it numerous times with us having one up top, on the other hand we aren’t creating enough chances and playing it out wide, looking for our lb and rb to help out and then leaving glaring space.

[The 90+2]

I’ve seen a couple say this now. Why does it actually matter? He’s here and Heckingbottom has been absolutely full of praise for him, while also saying he needs to improve in some areas. He’s played regularly in pre season and started our first league game.

He’s been sub in some games.

Scott Allan should be told to play his own game to win us matches and create chances. It matters a lot actually.

[MikeyS]

Do you personally think that’s enough? So far not enough is being done to protect the back line, even St Mirren exploited it numerous times with us having one up top, on the other hand we aren’t creating enough chances and playing it out wide, looking for our lb and rb to help out and then leaving glaring space.

No I dont think it's enough, was just highlighting what PH had said previously. He was quite clear also that Vela wasnt a DM but most other seem to think hes in to play that role. I reckon we will see Mallan play deeper than Vela throughout the season. Really dont know what to expect this year if I'm honest. Not convinced yet.

[MikeyS]

We did sign one. This place is truly mental.

Who?

[The 90+2]

We did sign one. This place is truly mental.

Who? Vela, known best for putting his foot on the call and passing it?

This place is mental at time not going over shortcomings and just saying la la la it’s okay.

We go to Ibrox on Sunday, who in the midfield will stop them playing through us? We will get killed down the side of the pitch and play one up top and feed for scraps.

[Heisenberg]

He’s been sub in some games.

Scott Allan should be told to play his own game to win us matches and create chances. It matters a lot actually.

Which is exactly the role he was given against St Mirren.

[The 90+2]

Who?

The fact that at least one person has questioned that doesn’t make it mental.

It makes it more mental not acknowledging where our shortcomings may be and just blindly going into things.

[The 90+2]

Which is exactly the role he was given against St Mirren.

He was being shouted at for not tracking back enough leading to their chances.

[Brightside]

Who?

Vela is signed as the DM. We’ve never played 2.

[CMurdoch]

Hoping the player Hearts have just signed is another Malaury Martin
Apart from a 2 year spell at Cardiff, nothing else on his CV is impressive

I agree. Had a look at his CV and only his contribution to Cardiff in their promotion season is impressive.
Lots of involvement with the French international age teams but as most of us know that means very little in relation to later success in senior football.

Much like Ojo at Aberdeen and Vela at Hibs the jury will be out on Dacour until he plays a good few games in Scotland.
I certainly haven't seen nearly enough of Ojo or Vela to form any opinions of them so far, other than to confirm they are no world beaters.

[The_Horde]

I wasn’t.

It was your claim on how often you watched LIVINGSTON

Anyway, I’m off now or I’ll be just as guilty of trolling as you and Poster D

You are just far too intelligent for this place. You've got it all worked out.

[Greencore]

New era, same finances. Even though we are the third highest in season ticket prices in the league......

[MikeyS]

The fact that at least one person has questioned that doesn’t make it mental.

It makes it more mental not acknowledging where our shortcomings may be and just blindly going into things.
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Quote from Hecky here saying he is an all rounder who like sto support the attack. Doesn't seem like the Bartley replacement to me

[MikeyS]

Vela is signed as the DM. We’ve never played 2.
Not according to PH, he was quoted as saying Vela is an all rounder who will get up and support the attack.

[Brightside]

Not according to PH, he was quoted as saying Vela is an all rounder who will get up and support the attack.

Not all DMs sit 5 yards in front of the defence. He’s the grunt in midfield.

[MikeyS]

Not all DMs sit 5 yards in front of the defence. He’s the grunt in midfield.

I agree with you actually but it's not going to stop folk moaning about not having a Bartley replacement all season when they dont see Vela barely moving from in front of the CBs!

[Brightside]

I agree with you actually but it's not going to stop folk moaning about not having a Bartley replacement all season when they dont see Vela barely moving from in front of the CBs!

Bartley would start about what 7/8 games a season? Campbell or Stirling are both better footballers.

[beensaidbefore]

It's a shame but it's essentially become a self fulfilling prophecy.

Poster A makes perfectly reasonable post
Poster B doesn't like Poster A and accuses him of trolling
Poster A defends himself

Thread off topic and becomes an argument about trolling

Poster C, "ah there's Poster A ruining threads again".

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it - if people showed the same levels of respect towards opinions they don't agree with to those they do agree with then the threads wouldn't go off like this.


:top marks

Twats

[MikeyS]

Bartley would start about what 7/8 games a season? Campbell or Stirling are both better footballers.

Again I agree, bartley had his uses at Tynie but it was perfect time to move on. However, Some fans like to see rigid postions/formations and there will be some amount of tears and snotters if we take a doing and it doesn't appear someone has sat deep enough for their likening!

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

If we are to get a Bartley replacement then would that mean bringing in a bench warmer?

[Winston Ingram]

Not according to PH, he was quoted as saying Vela is an all rounder who will get up and support the attack.

...evidenced by the fact he didn’t play there last week.

[Torto7]

We've lost Milligan, Marv and Omeonga. There were times last season when we were bullied and overrun in midfield. I'm happy with Vela and Allan coming in but we need more. I don't understand how anyone could think we don't.

[04Sauzee]

Who? Vela, known best for putting his foot on the call and passing it?

This place is mental at time not going over shortcomings and just saying la la la it’s okay.

We go to Ibrox on Sunday, who in the midfield will stop them playing through us? We will get killed down the side of the pitch and play one up top and feed for scraps.
We need to realise that Rangers are spending a fortune on their recruitment now, they are much better than they were last season. Where we finish in the league this season will not be determined by tomorrows result or performance. Just like Hearts start to last season had no bearing to how they would end the season. We are 1 game in I can't understand why folk are getting so worked up.

[SHODAN]

Vela is signed as the DM. We’ve never played 2.

Vela looks more like a box-to-box player who is playing deep by necessity at the moment. If we sign a dedicated DM we can push him further up. I'm still not convinced Allan and Mallan can play together.

[500miles]

Bartley would start about what 7/8 games a season? Campbell or Stirling are both better footballers.

Stirling could find himself getting a shot at right back given our injuries in that department.

[mcfly]

Who? Vela, known best for putting his foot on the call and passing it?

This place is mental at time not going over shortcomings and just saying la la la it’s okay.

We go to Ibrox on Sunday, who in the midfield will stop them playing through us? We will get killed down the side of the pitch and play one up top and feed for scraps.

Such a negative post

Glad your not doing our team talk on Sunday

Deary me

[The 90+2]

If we are to get a Bartley replacement then would that mean bringing in a bench warmer?

No, we would be bringing in a player to protect the defenders even against st Mirren it was a shambles at times let alone going away to good teams.

Hecky might be happy but right now the squad is completely lacking an engine and even a forward to stick away chances.

[Real Emerald]

We've lost Milligan, Marv and Omeonga. There were times last season when we were bullied and overrun in midfield. I'm happy with Vela and Allan coming in but we need more. I don't understand how anyone could think we don't.

We do need more and the manager is saying finances are not allowing it. This is really worrying considering our huge leap in attendances, transfer money in and less bodies to pay. We’ve lost out on a sponsor which would have helped but as a club seem more concerned in community projects than our football team 😕

[Callum_62]

Anyone else find the quotes about our finances not changing as slightly odd?



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[The 90+2]

Such a negative post

Glad your not doing our team talk on Sunday

Deary me

Yet you failed to answer any of the questions? Who is there protecting the back line?

One up top, wide players bombing on with an aging right back and a inexperienced left back leaving us completely vulnerable to attacks and open us up.

[bingo70]

We've lost Milligan, Marv and Omeonga. There were times last season when we were bullied and overrun in midfield. I'm happy with Vela and Allan coming in but we need more. I don't understand how anyone could think we don't.

I agree, the idea of a fluid midfield where everyone can do a bit of everything sounds fantastic but I think it’s a bit idealistic when up against the stronger sides.

Mallan for example I don’t think will ever be someone we can rely on to perform disciplined defensive duties. That’s not a dig at him, that’s just not his game.

There’ll be many games we don’t need a natural defensive midfielder and it’s refreshing to hear Heckers talking like that, to think we will never need one this season is naive IMO.

Unfortunately I think one game we will need one is coming up on Sunday and I fear a pumping will be coming our way if we’ve got ideas of not offering proper protection to our defence.

[The 90+2]

We need to realise that Rangers are spending a fortune on their recruitment now, they are much better than they were last season. Where we finish in the league this season will not be determined by tomorrows result or performance. Just like Hearts start to last season had no bearing to how they would end the season. We are 1 game in I can't understand why folk are getting so worked up.

They are, but we can at least sign players to stop teams getting to us away from home. It seems even if we get pumped on Dhnday it will be “oh rangers have spent much more”. We struggled against the worst team in the league last week having struggled pre-season (3 wins aye I know, all games struggles though) there’s not nearly enough positional cover in major areas.

[Unseen work]

We were after Omeonga and McNulty prior to them signing for other clubs, I would imagine since we never got them were still looking for a midfielder and a striker, regardless of what Heckingbottom says in a press conference.

Middleton is coming in for Boyle.

Re the money, Gordon said he has gave us a 7 figure sum to do with what we wish, it will be down to Leanne and George what that gets spent on and by the sounds of it the playing squad won’t be the priority as we already have a good, competitive budget.

If he says we have a bigger budget clubs and players will seek more money.

It makes no difference if Heckingbottom would have signed Allan before, we have him now and Hecky is clearly a fan, said he’s a good player and is clearly a big part of his plans, starting him in games.

The forum is getting very petty, folk arguing and getting upset at the slightest thing.

Theres nothing wrong with someone thinking a Hearts, Aberdeen, Celtic or Rangers signing is superb, good, bad or terrible

[PaulSmith]

Bartley would start about what 7/8 games a season? Campbell or Stirling are both better footballers.

Based on your opinion of having watched them in the reserves?


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[Stuart93]

Anyone else find the quotes about our finances not changing as slightly odd?



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What were the quotes?

[Billy Whizz]

Anyone else find the quotes about our finances not changing as slightly odd?



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Not really. Budgets were put in place prior to Ron buying Hibs. Think he’s just assessing the situation, and looking to the long term

[Torto7]

Anyone else find the quotes about our finances not changing as slightly odd?



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I'd be lying if I said an alarm bell didn't go off in my head.

There's a thread on the bounce though that seems to suggest that Ron Gordon has been very involved behind the scenes and Leanne and each department at the club are getting business plans together to be submitted to RG.

If this is the case I'm wondering if we'll be keeping back money until these plans are approved? I don't think we need too many more in just one or two.

I also think folk were expecting more razzle dazzle after the takeover but he seems to be taking the patient approach which isn't a bad thing necessarily.

[CMurdoch]

Anyone else find the quotes about our finances not changing as slightly odd?



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Such quotes are about 2 things after Ron's heralded arrival
1. playing poker with players, agents and other football clubs about what money we are willing to spend
2. managing the expectations of Hibs supporters and those at 1. above

Once those 2 things have been achieved we can go about our business on an even playing field again.

Club and manager chat on such matters should be ignored for the above reasons.
All that really matters is what actually happens.

P.S. I expect us to get another 2 good quality players in on loan after Middleton's arrival

[04Sauzee]

They are, but we can at least sign players to stop teams getting to us away from home. It seems even if we get pumped on Dhnday it will be “oh rangers have spent much more”. We struggled against the worst team in the league last week having struggled pre-season (3 wins aye I know, all games struggles though) there’s not nearly enough positional cover in major areas.
You have us down for a 1-0 or 2-1 reverse. That's not to shabby. Rangers will finish closer to Celtic than they will to Hibs.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Ffs you do realise you are on a Hibs forum yeah?

Duncan knows exactly where he is.

[bingo70]

I'd be lying if I said an alarm bell didn't go off in my head.

There's a thread on the bounce though that seems to suggest that Ron Gordon has been very involved behind the scenes and Leanne and each department at the club are getting business plans together to be submitted to RG.

If this is the case I'm wondering if we'll be keeping back money until these plans are approved? I don't think we need too many more in just one or two.

I also think folk were expecting more razzle dazzle after the takeover but he seems to be taking the patient approach which isn't a bad thing necessarily.

I’m maybe clutching at straws a little as well but Heckers isn’t ‘his man’ so there could be an element of him being assessed before throwing money at him.

I still think if a particularly good opportunity comes up to sign someone we’ll try to get it done but it wouldn’t be a very good start for Heckingbottom under Rons reign if he pretty much ignored the boundaries he was set and just wanted more and more.

[Since90+2]

Duncan knows exactly where he is.

This Duncan's chat is embarrassing. It's about as insulting as yams.

[jeffers]

Hopefully his chat about no more signings is pish otherwise like others I think we are in for a long hard season. Whether we want to call them a defensive midfielder or not we have no one bar Vela who will put their foot in or stand up and be counted when Hearts and Aberdeen are trying to kick us off the park.

I worry our midfield will get steamrollered on Sunday and will struggle against other sides.

Again he could be talking pish but he says we don’t have the budget for more signings, makes the decision not to go with a shirt sponsor all the more bewildering.

[bingo70]

This Duncan's chat is embarrassing. It's about as insulting as yams.

It’s dreadful.

I dont think anybody would use it out of Hibs.net though.

[hibbyfraelibby]

This Duncan's chat is embarrassing. It's about as insulting as yams.

Its only an insult if you are one, an embarassment if you are a snowflake and a coded observation if you are not fooled

[SHODAN]

This Duncan's chat is embarrassing. It's about as insulting as yams.

I actually think it's pretty clever, and I'm not usually one for all the cringeworthy names we use for them on here ("yam" being the prime example).

[Since452]

If we win on Sunday this place will go into meltdown 😉

[beensaidbefore]

I actually think it's pretty clever, and I'm not usually one for all the cringeworthy names we use for them on here ("yam" being the prime example).

Where has it come from? Passed me by but seen it a lot in the last week or so. :confused:

[Billy Whizz]

If we win on Sunday this place will go into meltdown 😉

I’m going there to see us win

[04Sauzee]

If we win on Sunday this place will go into meltdown 😉

If we don't win I'll be back on here about Wed/Thu 😂

[Since90+2]

Its only an insult if you are one, an embarassment if you are a snowflake and a coded observation if you are not fooled

Why is it insulting though? Is it not some chat about a made up Murray brother? It's hardly insulting.

Like Yams I'd be surprised if it's ever used outside of Hibs.net. Thankfully.

[jeffers]

I actually think it's pretty clever, and I'm not usually one for all the cringeworthy names we use for them on here ("yam" being the prime example).

Agree I think it’s quite funny too, not sure it will be used much outwith here, but far better than Yam IMO

[SHODAN]

Where has it come from? Passed me by but seen it a lot in the last week or so. :confused:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwHbjXN54lI

[HoboHarry]

Where has it come from? Passed me by but seen it a lot in the last week or so. :confused:
I thought I was the only one who didn't understand lol. OK get it now......:greengrin

[beensaidbefore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwHbjXN54lI

Ah, I get I now. Thanks.

I actually thought that was hilarious when saw it a few weeks back. Good fun. I was a bit concerned it had something to do with a hospital building in morningside! :idiot:

[hibbyfraelibby]

Why is it insulting though? Is it not some chat about a made up Murray brother? It's hardly insulting.

Like Yams I'd be surprised if it's ever used outside of Hibs.net. Thankfully.

You were the one who called it insulting in your post I responded to.

Maybe you can explain the thinking behind "its almost as insulting as Yams" as you obviously equate it as such.

[Brightside]

Based on your opinion of having watched them in the reserves?


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Yes.

[MWHIBBIES]

Why the need for a defensive midfielder? Best midfield in 20 years had a deep playmaker, a box to box and an attacking playmaker. It's the box to box/ballwinner Mcginn type were missing now, not a Marv type. Although having one to bring on or for Tynecastle could be helpful but it's not a vital thing.

[Brightside]

...evidenced by the fact he didn’t play there last week.

Our midfield rotated last week. But he could also just tell him to stay as a fixed DM.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Ah, I get I now. Thanks.

I actually thought that was hilarious when saw it a few weeks back. Good fun. I was a bit concerned it had something to do with a hospital building in morningside! :idiot:

As long as they dont start calling us Arthur

[JohnMcM]

Mummy, Daddy, I know I've been a bad boy, but please don't make me read anymore of this thread.

:flag:

[Speedway]

If we win on Sunday this place will go into meltdown 😉

If we win on Sunday this place will fall silent.

[JimBHibees]

Or player.

“Ojo is one we have tracked all pre-season and thought we had him before we realised S****horpe due a fee, even then we bid for him to move the goal posts”

“Vela is a player we have had to be patient with but demonstrated how much we wanted him by waiting all summer”

Either one was back up or he wanted both meaning he would still like a midfielder considering one of the players we waited for ages went elsewhere.

Assume he wanted both.

[AgentDaleCooper]

just saw fraser fyvie is a free agent...worth a punt until january?

[JimBHibees]

I honesty can’t think of why he would say that if he didn’t mean it, I for one think he’s telling it as it is otherwise he would say he’s still on the lookout. It’s very disappointing and puts a dampener on things when fans can see obvious gaps in the squad during the transfer window and your manager comes out with these gems. Crazy talk if he’s not done yet!

Because there are probably a couple of bids in and he is indicating to them he could settle with what he has.

[The_Horde]

just saw fraser fyvie is a free agent...worth a punt until january?

Aye. If you want a punt right back down to the championship.

[mjhibby]

We were after Omeonga and McNulty prior to them signing for other clubs, I would imagine since we never got them were still looking for a midfielder and a striker, regardless of what Heckingbottom says in a press conference.

Middleton is coming in for Boyle.

Re the money, Gordon said he has gave us a 7 figure sum to do with what we wish, it will be down to Leanne and George what that gets spent on and by the sounds of it the playing squad won’t be the priority as we already have a good, competitive budget.

If he says we have a bigger budget clubs and players will seek more money.

It makes no difference if Heckingbottom would have signed Allan before, we have him now and Hecky is clearly a fan, said he’s a good player and is clearly a big part of his plans, starting him in games.

The forum is getting very petty, folk arguing and getting upset at the slightest thing.

Theres nothing wrong with someone thinking a Hearts, Aberdeen, Celtic or Rangers signing is superb, good, bad or terrible

Agreed with everything up to the last sentence. None of the signings by those four clubs can be classed as superb. Indeed Celtic have lost their best player by a distance and have replaced him with a work in progress. Neil Lennon's words not mine. Aberdeen look to have signed a couple of decent players in hedges and ojo but were stuffed last night with barely a shot on goal. Rangers have signed a lot of players but none of them can be looked upon as superb. They are all very good spl players but all very similar. Definitely enough for second in the league mind you. Hertz have signed a decent player in halkett,a gamble with walker and the guy from Cardiff nobodies quite sure about. Halkett is a good addition but he will need to be superb to keep the defence together with an ageing Berra,an injured souttar and a clearly inexperienced left back. Naismith is no doubt a good player but isn't a new signing. So none of them are superb and I would argue very few of them will turn out to contribute more than Scotty or Vela. All about opinions but unless they sign marquee player like Sutton or Larsson then there won't be any superb signings. If you think Any of the signings were superb then your watching different players from me.

[Unseen work]

Agreed with everything up to the last sentence. None of the signings by those four clubs can be classed as superb. Indeed Celtic have lost their best player by a distance and have replaced him with a work in progress. Neil Lennon's words not mine. Aberdeen look to have signed a couple of decent players in hedges and ojo but were stuffed last night with barely a shot on goal. Rangers have signed a lot of players but none of them can be looked upon as superb. They are all very good spl players but all very similar. Definitely enough for second in the league mind you. Hertz have signed a decent player in halkett,a gamble with walker and the guy from Cardiff nobodies quite sure about. Halkett is a good addition but he will need to be superb to keep the defence together with an ageing Berra,an injured souttar and a clearly inexperienced left back. Naismith is no doubt a good player but isn't a new signing. So none of them are superb and I would argue very few of them will turn out to contribute more than Scotty or Vela. All about opinions but unless they sign marquee player like Sutton or Larsson then there won't be any superb signings. If you think Any of the signings were superb then your watching different players from me.

Im not saying any of them signed are superb, some might turn out to be a superb signing for that team. All I’m saying is imo there’s nothing wrong with a fan making a presumption on a player based on what they know about them/what they’ve seen.

Some will also brand opposing teams signings as terrible based on what they’ve seen, nothing gets pulled up about that though as the majority will then agree as they don’t like the team and want to see it as a negative.

Acknowledging another team has signed a good player isn’t over praising them or criticising hibs - which I think is how a lot of fans have interpreted some of the posts

For example I said I think Damour will be a very good singing for hearts as I think he’s a good player and will suit the league.

Very few players in this league could be described as superb as a whole, some players just suit certain clubs however.

Agree that whilst rangers are making good signings, I’m not sure they’re of a really high quality, all of them seem to be very similar and probably good enough to come second but not enough for first imo.

Essentially all that matters is what we do, I’m happy with our signings so far and think they all have ability, a couple more quality recruits out wide, central midfield and striker and were looking very good imo.

[superfurryhibby]

Hibs lack real quality, that’s what makes a team click. Only Allan has that amongst the players currently available.

You can set up sensibly, be tactically astute and all the rest, but we need three or four more players with the kind of ability Allan has in order to make this season one a good season.

Early days etc, etc, but nothing has changed my initial impressions that we’re on a low budget trajectory just now. For a couple of years we seemed to be picking up good quality, alongside the quota of usual journeymen and players with some potential to develop. Can’t say that’s my feeling for this year.

[oldbutdim]

You are just far too intelligent for this place. You've got it all worked out.

Because I sussed you out?

I doubt I’m in a minority there.

[calumhibee1]

Ah, I get I now. Thanks.

I actually thought that was hilarious when saw it a few weeks back. Good fun. I was a bit concerned it had something to do with a hospital building in morningside! :idiot:

That’s what I presumed it was to do with.

[500miles]

Aaaaanyway, to football matters.

We lack a player who can dictate play from a deep position, and have done since Mcgeouch left. When Efe was still in the team, he would step out of defence to start moves and pick passes which covered that loss a bit, but that flaw has been much more evident now he's gone too.

Mallan has improved, but still has some to go, and I'd rather he was behind the striker.

[beensaidbefore]

That’s what I presumed it was to do with.

:greengrin

[Real Emerald]

Because there are probably a couple of bids in and he is indicating to them he could settle with what he has.

That’s a real leap of faith! If you are interested in more signings it would be to your advantage to let every agent know. If they seriously thought you had finished and had no more finances left to strengthen then they would offer their players to other clubs first, would they not?

[JimBHibees]

That’s a real leap of faith! If you are interested in more signings it would be to your advantage to let every agent know. If they seriously thought you had finished and had no more finances left to strengthen then they would offer their players to other clubs first, would they not?

I am talking about if you have bids or offers out a position if not accepted first up is to indicate you can settle with what you have. In the hope their position changes.

[calumhibee1]

That’s a real leap of faith! If you are interested in more signings it would be to your advantage to let every agent know. If they seriously thought you had finished and had no more finances left to strengthen then they would offer their players to other clubs first, would they not?

I don’t think it really matters what you do. The whole “we’ve spent our budget” or “we’re well stocked for players” chat doesn’t even fool folk on here. It’s not going to full agents and chairmen.

[Smartie]

Aaaaanyway, to football matters.

We lack a player who can dictate play from a deep position, and have done since Mcgeouch left. When Efe was still in the team, he would step out of defence to start moves and pick passes which covered that loss a bit, but that flaw has been much more evident now he's gone too.

Mallan has improved, but still has some to go, and I'd rather he was behind the striker.

If we're to go with what we've got, I'd be inclined to swap Mallan and Allan.

Allan looked sharp against St Mirren but we struggled to get the ball to him. Mallan isn't brilliant when he's closed down whereas Allan has a wee burst and is great at creating a bit of space for himself. Playing Mallan further forward might see him get a few more shots away.

Slivka did enough in his appearances lately to suggest he might be a decent shout ahead of Vela.

It's the part of the team I'm still most concerned about.

[Real Emerald]

I don’t think it really matters what you do. The whole “we’ve spent our budget” or “we’re well stocked for players” chat doesn’t even fool folk on here. It’s not going to full agents and chairmen.

That’s my point, if you’re looking for players it’s better to let folk know, if (which I doubt) he’s playing a poker strategy I’d like to play him at poker.

[Keith_M]

To save me having to rake through all the previous "chat"....

Is Milligan definitely coming to Hibs on loan?

[jacomo]

just saw fraser fyvie is a free agent...worth a punt until january?


Blimey his career really hasn’t gone the way I thought it would.

[jacomo]

To save me having to rake through all the previous "chat"....

Is Milligan definitely coming to Hibs on loan?


Definitely not.

Middleton is your man, loan announced on Monday apparently. I believe Gerrard has said ‘it will happen’.

[NC1875]

To save me having to rake through all the previous "chat"....

Is Milligan definitely coming to Hibs on loan?

We’ve just got rid of him and he’s coming back on loans already. He’s like a ducking boomerang

[Northernhibee]

Aye. If you want a punt right back down to the championship.
:rolleyes:

[CMurdoch]

I don’t think it really matters what you do. The whole “we’ve spent our budget” or “we’re well stocked for players” chat doesn’t even fool folk on here. It’s not going to full agents and chairmen.

To be fair, it does fool a lot of numpties on here

[Greencore]

Anyone else think we are playing our cards close to our chest and will sign a few players on deadline day? Or just wishful thinking?

[MacGruber]

Anyone else think we are playing our cards close to our chest and will sign a few players on deadline day? Or just wishful thinking?

Wishful thinking!

[Sir David Gray]

Anyone else think we are playing our cards close to our chest and will sign a few players on deadline day? Or just wishful thinking?

I don't think we'll see too many more coming in to be honest. Middleton's only signing because our hand was forced with Boyle getting injured. I genuinely don't think Heckingbottom's in for any other players.

Could be wrong though.

[Ronniekirk]

I’m going there to see us win

Hope you achieve that Billy But despite them playing in Europe mid week it’s still a big ask with players available to us imo


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[tonyrougier123]

Hope you achieve that Billy But despite them playing in Europe mid week it’s still a big ask with players available to us imo


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They were outstanding last night tbh.

Half that performance worries me.

But ive been worried about ibrox b4 and we have got a result.

[Heisenberg]

I genuinely don’t think we’ve got anything left in the budget to do anything else after Middleton comes in. Vela must’ve been expensive.

[04Sauzee]

I genuinely don’t think we’ve got anything left in the budget to do anything else after Middleton comes in. Vela must’ve been expensive.

Not sure how much the guys are on but we have managed to loose a fair few during the summer, most of them being loans although I'd have thought we were paying a chunk of their wages. Ambrose and Milligan are off the wage bill and again id have thought they were on a decent wage.

I would hope our budget could still stretch to a few decent loans or players who are currently unattached.

[Unseen work]

I genuinely don’t think we’ve got anything left in the budget to do anything else after Middleton comes in. Vela must’ve been expensive.

I’d be surprised considering we were trying to get McNulty and Omeonga back but were just outbid.

No way has he blown the whole budget already. Maybe it’s a subtle way of saying to the board to give him a bit more

[Lago]

Be very surprised if anyone else comes in, what we've got is what you see.

[Heisenberg]

I’d be surprised considering we were trying to get McNulty and Omeonga back but were just outbid.

No way has he blown the whole budget already. Maybe it’s a subtle way of saying to the board to give him a bit more

I don’t know, I just feel like the way Hecky said it today was quite genuine. He’d like to do more but our financial situation hasn’t changed.

I did think before that we would still sign a few more but i’m becoming more pessimistic about it now.

[Torto7]

I don’t know, I just feel like the way Hecky said it today was quite genuine. He’d like to do more but our financial situation hasn’t changed.

I did think before that we would still sign a few more but i’m becoming more pessimistic about it now.

That's how I took it as well. The first time he mentioned it I didn't think it meant anything, this time sounded different though.

[bingo70]

https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1159882845680283649?s=21

Who is the guy at the back of the first photo in that tweet?

[FilipinoHibs]

Not sure how much the guys are on but we have managed to loose a fair few during the summer, most of them being loans although I'd have thought we were paying a chunk of their wages. Ambrose and Milligan are off the wage bill and again id have thought they were on a decent wage.

I would hope our budget could still stretch to a few decent loans or players who are currently unattached.

We need a goal scorer. Very short on people who can take half chances.

[Borderhibbie76]

I honestly dont think anyone else is coming in after Middleton...this place is gonna be in uproar on deadline day I fear

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[MacGruber]

There won't be anyone after Middleton.

I think it is a bit worrying as we are very light for strikers, defensive midfield and very reliant on Scott Allan staying fit. 11 out including some big earners and 7 in. Surprised we are done but looks like we are

[SquashedFrogg]

I honestly dont think anyone else is coming in after Middleton...this place is gonna be in uproar on deadline day I fear

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Fully grown adults who accept that they don't always get what they want in life, will be fine.

All others will be in uproar.

[SquashedFrogg]

There won't be anyone after Middleton.

I think it is a bit worrying as we are very light for strikers, defensive midfield and very reliant on Scott Allan staying fit. 11 out including some big earners and 7 in. Surprised we are done but looks like we are

Are you 100% certain there won't be anyone after Middleton? Not doubting any inside knowledge you may have btw

[MWHIBBIES]

If we're playing one up front 3 strikers isn't light at all.

[MacGruber]

Are you 100% certain there won't be anyone after Middleton? Not doubting any inside knowledge you may have btw

Sorry.no, that is all.just opinion with zero knowledge or certainty so hopefully proves to be wrong. I'm just going by the vibe Heckingbottom is giving off and what he is sayinng. Whilst I think that leaves us light (too light) especially.up top for some reason, call it gut instinct, I think Doidge will end up being a superb signing scoring 20 odd goals this season and surprise a few people

[MacGruber]

If we're playing one up front 3 strikers isn't light at all.

The preferred formation might be 1 up but it won't be a one size fits all. We will have to go 2 on occasion

[Borderhibbie76]

Sorry.no, that is all.just opinion with zero knowledge or certainty so hopefully proves to be wrong. I'm just going by the vibe Heckingbottom is giving off and what he is sayinng. Whilst I think that leaves us light (too light) especially.up top for some reason, call it gut instinct, I think Doidge will end up being a superb signing scoring 20 odd goals this season and surprise a few peopleI'm the same as u think we could do with another 2 in after Middleton but dont see it happening now...Hecky keeps reiterating that we are done and he seemed genuine this week. Guess we will have to hope we steer clear of any further bad Injuries and reinforce in Jan

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[MWHIBBIES]

The preferred formation might be 1 up but it won't be a one size fits all. We will have to go 2 on occasion

Still don't need 4 strikers for the odd occasion we go 2 upfront. We might play Murray and Allan together on occasion as well, doesn't mean we need a 3rd creative midfielder.

If Hecky sticks with one forward then our current ones are fine. If another one joined one would leave.

[Unseen work]

https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1159882845680283649?s=21

Who is the guy at the back of the first photo in that tweet?

Was wondering that myself, no mention of anyone linked with us, on trial or training with us? Don’t suppose it’s a member of staff?

Im sure if it’s a player they’ll be identified with the media pretty sharp

[King Cosell]

https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1159882845680283649?s=21

Who is the guy at the back of the first photo in that tweet?

Jamie Gullan?

[04Sauzee]

https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1159882845680283649?s=21

Who is the guy at the back of the first photo in that tweet?

First thing I thought when I looked at the tweet, I assumed he was a member of the fitness staff or something

[Ronniekirk]

They were outstanding last night tbh.

Half that performance worries me.

But ive been worried about ibrox b4 and we have got a result.

Listened to bits of game on radio and they were raving about four quality goals and the movement off the ball
But also said defence went to sleep for both goals
But you got the impression that they would go and score a fourth after conceding the two and they did
But will just need to see what happens Tain forecast all day Sunday


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[MacGruber]

Still don't need 4 strikers for the odd occasion we go 2 upfront. We might play Murray and Allan together on occasion as well, doesn't mean we need a 3rd creative midfielder.

If Hecky sticks with one forward then our current ones are fine. If another one joined one would leave.

Fair enough. I do however personally think 3 is too light for a season challenging at the top end for Europe and cups, whether it is to cover for loss of form or the inevitable injuries. I haven't looked but wonder how many strikers the other teams in the league carry. I think The Rangers as usual probably have about 10 for every position whereas Celtic don't have many, I can only think of Edouard and Griffiths.
How many do Hearts have? Uche, MacLean, Naismith, Washington, Keena, Wighton
Aberdeen - Cosgrove, Wilson....
I know the amount of strikers other teams have is neither here nor there and is no barometer, I just wonder how we all compare.
Only 3 strikers and 1 injury and you have no option to change things up, chase a game by bringing on a striker, bring a good player on when one of them is playing and not having a good game.
I'd love to see us bring in Cummings to be that other option too

[FilipinoHibs]

Fair enough. I do however personally think 3 is too light for a season challenging at the top end for Europe and cups, whether it is to cover for loss of form or the inevitable injuries. I haven't looked but wonder how many strikers the other teams in the league carry. I think The Rangers as usual probably have about 10 for every position whereas Celtic don't have many, I can only think of Edouard and Griffiths.
How many do Hearts have? Uche, MacLean, Naismith, Washington, Keena, Wighton
Aberdeen - Cosgrove, Wilson....
I know the amount of strikers other teams have is neither here nor there and is no barometer, I just wonder how we all compare.
Only 3 strikers and 1 injury and you have no option to change things up, chase a game by bringing on a striker, bring a good player on when one of them is playing and not having a good game.
I'd love to see us bring in Cummings to be that other option too

To really challenge we need a goalscorer, a fox in the box, someone who can score ugly. McNulty/McLaren fell into that role. Kamberi can score if put through or use his pace. Shaw and Doidge don't fit the bill and don't look to be prolific at this level. I think Cummings could do it.

[SMAXXA]

To really challenge we need a goalscorer, a fox in the box, someone who can score ugly. McNulty/McLaren fell into that role. Kamberi can score if put through or use his pace. Shaw and Doidge don't fit the bill and don't look to be prolific at this level. I think Cummings could do it.

How can you say that about Doidge after one league game? Aye he missed 2 sitters last week but far too early to make that assumption imo

[Allant1981]

To really challenge we need a goalscorer, a fox in the box, someone who can score ugly. McNulty/McLaren fell into that role. Kamberi can score if put through or use his pace. Shaw and Doidge don't fit the bill and don't look to be prolific at this level. I think Cummings could do it.

This place is getting worse, doidge hasnt even played a full league game yet but doesnt look prolific at this level. But you would like to see cummings in who wasnt exactly great with the rangers in this league or any other league except our championship, Like a few others it's time to say bye bye to the site for a while

[JimBHibees]

I honestly dont think anyone else is coming in after Middleton...this place is gonna be in uproar on deadline day I fear

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Still 3 weeks to end of the window. Would be amazed if there wasn't a couple more coming in after Middleton.

[FilipinoHibs]

This place is getting worse, doidge hasnt even played a full league game yet but doesnt look prolific at this level. But you would like to see cummings in who wasnt exactly great with the rangers in this league or any other league except our championship, Like a few others it's time to say bye bye to the site for a while

Cummings did well against Hearts and Rangers. Think an indication he could do it at the SPL level. A fit and settled Cummings would perform better than he did with Rangers. I hope I am proved wrong but I think the SPL is a level to far for Doidge.

The Net has a variety of views and a fans forum for debate so don't be surprised that everyone does not fully agree with you.

[JimBHibees]

How can you say that about Doidge after one league game? Aye he missed 2 sitters last week but far too early to make that assumption imo

Agree any other day he scores 2 goals and everyone is happy. I blame FIFA and the instant gratification generation. :greengrin

[MacGruber]

This place is getting worse, doidge hasnt even played a full league game yet but doesnt look prolific at this level. But you would like to see cummings in who wasnt exactly great with the rangers in this league or any other league except our championship, Like a few others it's time to say bye bye to the site for a while

I'm personally not bothered about what Cummings has done at Ibrox or anywhere else. I have seen him playing for Hibs long enough to know the player he is with us.

I wanted Scott Allan back even though he was rotten at Rotherham and never played at Celtic.

Cummings only good at Championship level except he has scored plenty and against The Rangers, Hearts, Dundee Utd, Aberdeen. Decent teams as far as Scotland goes. A fit and focused Cummings scores goals for me, natural goalscorer.

I actually like Doidge, think he will surprise a few and start banging them in. Still.think we need a 4th striker.

[Hibbyradge]

I honestly dont think anyone else is coming in after Middleton...this place is gonna be in uproar on deadline day I fear

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And rightly so!

How dare the manager get his players in early and then tell us the truth that we're not looking to recruit anyone else!!! :grr:

[Allant1981]

Cummings did well against Hearts and Rangers. Think an indication he could do it at the SPL level. A fit and settled Cummings would perform better than he did with Rangers. I hope I am proved wrong but I think the SPL is a level to far for Doidge.

The Net has a variety of views and a fans forum for debate so don't be surprised that everyone does not fully agree with you.

I'm not fussed if people dont agree with my opinion, it's the constant negative comments about our new players that's bothering me, give the guys a chance before writing them off

[Allant1981]

I'm personally not bothered about what Cummings has done at Ibrox or anywhere else. I have seen him playing for Hibs long enough to know the player he is with us.

I wanted Scott Allan back even though he was rotten at Rotherham and never played at Celtic.

Cummings only good at Championship level except he has scored plenty and against The Rangers, Hearts, Dundee Utd, Aberdeen. Decent teams as far as Scotland goes. A fit and focused Cummings scores goals for me, natural goalscorer.

I actually like Doidge, think he will surprise a few and start banging them in. Still.think we need a 4th striker.

Yip he scored against them in the cup and done well for us, it's completely different doing it week in week out in the league and he has shown at every club since that he doesnt do it, so not sure why he would all of a sudden be scoring here every week, he may well do of course but I doubt we will find out, allan is a completely different player and he showed that when he came back on loan last season that he can cut it in the premier league

[Borderhibbie76]

Still 3 weeks to end of the window. Would be amazed if there wasn't a couple more coming in after Middleton.I dunno why how many times does the manager have to say we aren't signing anyone else. I'm now at stage I will be amazed if we do otherwise why would he keep saying there is no budget and we are done???

If he was being coy surely he would just play things down and say maybe or we shall see.

I honestly think we are done and I will be avoiding this place like the plague on 2nd Sept.

Personally I'd like another 2 in - a striker and a midfielder but maybe we are happy to give youth a chance and recruit again in Jan.


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[The Leith Dutch]

If we're playing one up front 3 strikers isn't light at all.


The preferred formation might be 1 up but it won't be a one size fits all. We will have to go 2 on occasion

Currently we have enough as even playing 2 up front we have those players plus bench cover.
If one gets injured we lose bench cover for 2 up front but we can move to one up front and utilise the other forward players we have to maintain an attacking shape.

The issue for me is midfield.
If we get an injury to Vela or Slivka we're very light in players that can run the midfield.
I also think we may need both of them in the starting XI at points.

We're not solid in the Centre for me and I can see that causing issues later in the season as even if the attack and defence are playing well smart teams will over run us in midfield and we won't have a platform to feed the attack and they'll be able to apply consistent pressure to our defence.

The plus point was Hecky playing Slivka (who I was starting to think he didn't fancy) and Slivka playing well.

[theonlywayisup]

I dunno why how many times does the manager have to say we aren't signing anyone else. I'm now at stage I will be amazed if we do otherwise why would he keep saying there is no budget and we are done???

If he was being coy surely he would just play things down and say maybe or we shall see.

I honestly think we are done and I will be avoiding this place like the plague on 2nd Sept.

Personally I'd like another 2 in - a striker and a midfielder but maybe we are happy to give youth a chance and recruit again in Jan.


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I was very surprised that we didn't bring in a couple of more bodies last season, despite Lennon saying he was happy with the team. The lack of numbers was then highlighted by the team we put out against Livingston.

It's the same this year. I would be very surprised if we don't get in a couple more signings. I do expect a couple more loan players or players out of contract will be brought in nearer the end of the transfer window. My worry is that we'll do the same as last season.

[FilipinoHibs]

I'm not fussed if people dont agree with my opinion, it's the constant negative comments about our new players that's bothering me, give the guys a chance before writing them off

Doidge was a one in two goal scorer in the 4th tier of English football. One in 17 in the third tier of English football. I think the SPL straddles the bottom of the championship/top of league one. It is no surprise he is struggling and will probably find the SPL a level to far for him.

[Hibbyradge]

I'm not fussed if people dont agree with my opinion, it's the constant negative comments about our new players that's bothering me, give the guys a chance before writing them off

It was ever thus.

If a new midfield player doesn't beat 3 opponents with a subtle drop of the shoulders and then play a defence splitting pass to a forward within the first 20 minutes, he's a dud.

If a forward doesn't score a worldy in each half of his first half a dozen games, he might as well be in the reserves.

Frankly, I skim past most of the posts on this thread, sometimes several pages at a time, because they have nothing at all to do with transfer speculation. They're as relevant to the topic as puns, which people moan about ad finitum, but which, unlike all the other nonsense, actually only appear infrequently.

Some people are naturally pessimistic so their posts will be more negative. We just have to quietly disagree and move on.

[bingo70]

And rightly so!

How dare the manager get his players in early and then tell us the truth that we're not looking to recruit anyone else!!! :grr:

Tbf Heckingbottom did also let it slip that we were short in midfield in his pre-Match press conference the other day. He’s consistently said he’s happy with what he’s got but if he’s saying now we’re a little short in midfield before a ball is kicked what happens when injuries and suspensions kick in (I suspect there could be a few suspensions for Vela).

[Allant1981]

Doidge was a one in two goal scorer in the 4th tier of English football. One in 17 in the third tier of English football. I think the SPL is straddles the bottom of the championship/top of league one. It is no surprise he is struggling and will probably find the SPL a level to far for him.

Struggling? Ok if you say so

[Stuart93]

Doidge was a one in two goal scorer in the 4th tier of English football. One in 17 in the third tier of English football. I think the SPL straddles the bottom of the championship/top of league one. It is no surprise he is struggling and will probably find the SPL a level to far for him.

Struggling? We’ve played ONE game

In which he set up the winning goal

[Allant1981]

It was ever thus.

If a new midfield player doesn't beat 3 opponents with a subtle drop of the shoulders and then play a defence splitting pass to a forward within the first 20 minutes, he's a dud.

If a forward doesn't score a worldy in each half of his first half a dozen games, he might as well be in the reserves.

Frankly, I skim past most of the posts on this thread, sometimes several pages at a time, because they have nothing at all to do with transfer speculation. They're as relevant to the topic as puns, which people moan about and finitum, but which actually only appear infrequently.

Some people are naturally pessimistic so their posts will be more negative. We just have to quietly disagree and move on.

Yip I think I'll have to skim past as well, it's just frustrating that people arent willing to give the new guys a chance, apparently doidge is struggling already!!

[FilipinoHibs]

Struggling? We’ve played ONE game

In which he set up the winning goal

Including Betfred and preseason. I hope I am wrong and suddenly goes up a level. But the historical stats and performances so far do not look promising.

[jacomo]

I'm not fussed if people dont agree with my opinion, it's the constant negative comments about our new players that's bothering me, give the guys a chance before writing them off


:agree:

[FilipinoHibs]

Struggling? We’ve played ONE game

In which he set up the winning goal

I think a more objective comment would be he passed to Allan who made the space to shoot with his skill.

[BoomtownHibees]

I think a more objective comment would be he passed to Allan who made the space to shoot with his skill.

He got the assist though eh?

[Nicho87]

People seriously having an issue signing Cummings?

proven goal scorer when playing and in an environment he’s settled in.

all this unproven nonsense, these boys must be really worried with heckys signings bar Allan. The whole lot of them never even played in this country before.

[FilipinoHibs]

He got the assist though eh?

My granny could have made that pass and she is dead.

[Aldo]

I think a more objective comment would be he passed to Allan who made the space to shoot with his skill.

Looks like you’ve made your mind up already about Doidge and your comment here confirms that.

He made the space to take the pass, he laid off a superb ball to Scotty who scored a super goal!

He is here to score goals and most people will judge him on that and to an extent I agree. But if he lays off a winning pass every weekend and we get 3 points then it’s job done for me.


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[Aldo]

My granny could have made that pass and she is dead.

Confirms again that you’ve written him off after a few games.

But he made the pass. Simple as. He assisted the team winning the game.

FFS


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[JimBHibees]

I dunno why how many times does the manager have to say we aren't signing anyone else. I'm now at stage I will be amazed if we do otherwise why would he keep saying there is no budget and we are done???

If he was being coy surely he would just play things down and say maybe or we shall see.

I honestly think we are done and I will be avoiding this place like the plague on 2nd Sept.

Personally I'd like another 2 in - a striker and a midfielder but maybe we are happy to give youth a chance and recruit again in Jan.


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I diont believe a word a manager says to the press. I agree we need a midfielder and striker and think we will see them in. We were in for omeonga and mcnulty so to me will see guys coming in for them.

[SquashedFrogg]

I think a more objective comment would be he passed to Allan who made the space to shoot with his skill.

Or..... the quick layoff provided Allan with an opportunity inside the box.

[04Sauzee]

Doidge was a one in two goal scorer in the 4th tier of English football. One in 17 in the third tier of English football. I think the SPL straddles the bottom of the championship/top of league one. It is no surprise he is struggling and will probably find the SPL a level to far for him.

He probably won't, the reasons he probably won't is becuase he's a very good footballer.

[FilipinoHibs]

Confirms again that you’ve written him off after a few games.

But he made the pass. Simple as. He assisted the team winning the game.

FFS


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Be objective. Nothing special in the pass. Not defense splitting, seeing space and an angle nobody else did leaving Allan just to tap it in. Alan did all the work and creativity fir that goal.

James Collins has a far superior scoring record than Doidge in the English 3rd tier before and after his Hibs stint. We know how he struggled in the SPL. Again I hope Doidge has a fantastic transformation but his record in the third tier in England and his showing so far in friendlies, the Betfred cup and the SPL does not indicate that will likely happen.

[04Sauzee]

My granny could have made that pass and she is dead.

Therefore she couldn't which confirms you are an absolute slaver.

[Hibbyradge]

People seriously having an issue signing Cummings?

proven goal scorer when playing and in an environment he’s settled in.

all this unproven nonsense, these boys must be really worried with heckys signings bar Allan. The whole lot of them never even played in this country before.

I wonder why he's struggling to find a club.

[Hibeesmad]

Can we expect any outgoings before the end of the window?

[Hibbyradge]

My granny could have made that pass and she is dead.

And with that, any last shred of credibility was gone.

[Aldo]

Be objective. Nothing special in the pass. Not defense splitting, seeing space and an angle nobody else did leaving Allan just to tap it in. Alan did all the work and creativity fir that goal.

James Collins has a far superior scoring record than Doidge in the English 3rd tier before and after his Hibs stint. We know how he struggled in the SPL. Again I hope Doidge has a fantastic transformation but his record in the third tier in England and his showing so far in friendlies, the Betfred cup and the SPL does not indicate that will likely happen.

Your first paragraph is utter drivel and his pass was just that a pass. Regardless of what kind of pass it was, he passed to Allan who then scored. FWIW The area around the pass was congested with players and the pass had to be accurate. Nicely weighted pass (Hanlons pass to Doidge also too feet) and goal scored from it.

If you cannot see the part Doidge played in the goal then I’m not sure how you view football!


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[huggie1875]

Doidge was a one in two goal scorer in the 4th tier of English football. One in 17 in the third tier of English football. I think the SPL straddles the bottom of the championship/top of league one. It is no surprise he is struggling and will probably find the SPL a level to far for him.


this is just getting ridiculous now

[FilipinoHibs]

Your first paragraph is utter drivel and his pass was just that a pass. Regardless of what kind of pass it was, he passed to Allan who then scored. FWIW The area around the pass was congested with players and the pass had to be accurate. Nicely weighted pass (Hanlons pass to Doidge also too feet) and goal scored from it.

If you cannot see the part Doidge played in the goal then I’m not sure how you view football!


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I think you are seeing things you want to see rather than what actually happened. Doidge pass was nothing out of the ordinary. Players at various levels could have made it. Allan's work and skill turned it into a goal. We brought Doidge to score goals not to make simple passes. He fluffed two sitters and and his one on one with goalkeeper was like a damp squib. When he went from the fourth tier of Englush football to the third tier he scored one in 17. The data and performances so far do not indicate a roaring success. We will of course wait and see and hope for some miraculous transformation.

[huggie1875]

RIP Hibs.net not worth the time wading through the pi sh now

[BoomtownHibees]

My granny could have made that pass and she is dead.

You should prob just give up after spouting pish like this. Like an argument you would hear in the school playground

[hibsbollah]

I think you are seeing things you want to see rather than what actually happened. Doidge pass was nothing out of the ordinary. Players at various levels could have made it. Allan's work and skill turned it into a goal. We brought Doidge to score goals not to make simple passes. He fluffed two sitters and and his one on one with goalkeeper was like a damp squib. When he went from the fourth tier of Englush football to the third tier he scored one in 17. The data and performances so far do not indicate a roaring success. We will of course wait and see and hope for some miraculous transformation.

I know you're only supposed to use the 'report' button for harassment/rudeness etc, but there really should be an exception made for gross stupidity and sheer brazen bawbaggery. If I read anymore of your posts there's a good chance I will jump out of my bedroom window, smashing glass all around me as I go, putting my own lifeat risk just to relieve the boredom.

That's what it's come to.

[BILLYHIBS]

I know you're only supposed to use the 'report' button for harassment/rudeness etc, but there really should be an exception made for gross stupidity and sheer brazen bawbaggery. If I read anymore of your posts there's a good chance I will jump out of my bedroom window, smashing glass all around me as I go, putting my own lifeat risk just to relieve the boredom.

That's what it's come to.

:faf:

[Allant1981]

I know you're only supposed to use the 'report' button for harassment/rudeness etc, but there really should be an exception made for gross stupidity and sheer brazen bawbaggery. If I read anymore of your posts there's a good chance I will jump out of my bedroom window, smashing glass all around me as I go, putting my own lifeat risk just to relieve the boredom.

That's what it's come to.

Some of the posters on this site are getting worse, I mentioned earlier that its getting to the stage where I stop coming on here and I'm sure there are many others like myself now which is a shame as it was a good place to read and discuss hibs

[BILLYHIBS]

Some of the posters on this site are getting worse, I mentioned earlier that its getting to the stage where I stop coming on here and I'm sure there are many others like myself now which is a shame as it was a good place to read and discuss hibs

:agree:

[Bangkok Hibby]

RIP Hibs.net not worth the time wading through the pi sh now


I'm kind of with you there. Still log on every day to have a look as it's been a good source of info but getting more and more negative. I'm just looking forward to a good season where our new signings kick on and make us a team to be proud of.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Some of the posters on this site are getting worse, I mentioned earlier that its getting to the stage where I stop coming on here and I'm sure there are many others like myself now which is a shame as it was a good place to read and discuss hibs

Maybe we should have an experimental ignore thread is that not the purpose?

[Viva_Palmeiras]

I know you're only supposed to use the 'report' button for harassment/rudeness etc, but there really should be an exception made for gross stupidity and sheer brazen bawbaggery. If I read anymore of your posts there's a good chance I will jump out of my bedroom window, smashing glass all around me as I go, putting my own lifeat risk just to relieve the boredom.

That's what it's come to.

Use the ignore force Luke ;)

[Allant1981]

Maybe we should have an experimental ignore thread is that not the purpose?

Unfortunately as soon as someone replies to said posters you see it anyway so not really much point

[Callum_62]

My granny could have made that pass and she is dead.Samok nimo oi!

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[hibsbollah]

Use the ignore force Luke ;)

That's appeasement. Next thing SingHibs will be annexing the Sudetenland and Pretty Boy will emerge from a plane waving around a piece of white paper saying that he's received a promise from Herr Filipino not to post anymore pish.

[Aldo]

I think you are seeing things you want to see rather than what actually happened. Doidge pass was nothing out of the ordinary. Players at various levels could have made it. Allan's work and skill turned it into a goal. We brought Doidge to score goals not to make simple passes. He fluffed two sitters and and his one on one with goalkeeper was like a damp squib. When he went from the fourth tier of Englush football to the third tier he scored one in 17. The data and performances so far do not indicate a roaring success. We will of course wait and see and hope for some miraculous transformation.

You haven’t read my post have you?? I didn’t say it was a world class, defence splitting pass, it was a pass to his team mate who went into score the winning goal.

‘We bought Doidge to score goals and not make simple passes????’ WTF does that mean. If he hadn’t made the pass last Saturday Allan wouldn’t have had the chance. It is a team game NO

His ‘simple’ pass as you call it set up the winning goal.

Are you not happy that he did? I also bet Paul Heckingbottom was delighted with his simple pass.... but would have had a wee word about not putting the ball in net?








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[The_Horde]

You haven’t read my post have you?? I didn’t say it was a world class, defence splitting pass, it was a pass to his team mate who went into score the winning goal.

‘We bought Doidge to score goals and not make simple passes????’ WTF does that mean. If he hadn’t made the pass last Saturday Allan wouldn’t have had the chance. It is a team game NO

His ‘simple’ pass as you call it set up the winning goal.

Are you not happy that he did? I also bet Paul Heckingbottom was delighted with his simple pass.... but would have had a wee word about not putting the ball in net?








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He did well for the goal. But let's not turn it into something that it's not.

Some people have it down as a "sublime touch", it was never a sublime touch or a great touch. It WAS a simple pass but one which he did well to spot and have the bravery to play.

If I was Heckingbottom I would be happy with that but also unhappy with his two sitters.

[superfurryhibby]

In the meantime..........

No transfer news beyond the near certainty we are signing Middleton on loan next week.

Tomorrow will be a big test of whether Heckingbottoms signings are up to scratch. Vela will need to step up several gears in midfield, Newall will need to work hard v Tavernier and try and keep him on the back foot. Doidge will have a part to play, hopefully in partnership with Kamberi up front. Jackson will also be tested v Morales.

It’s early in the season and the team is still gelling, but it’s the same for the Hun. We know what we get from the established players ( and Allan) and they’ve shown they can get results in big games. Hopefully, the new guys display the qualities we hope for.

I still think we some more in. I guess we find out at Ibrox.

[Eyrie]

That's appeasement. Next thing SingHibs will be annexing the Sudetenland and Pretty Boy will emerge from a plane waving around a piece of white paper saying that he's received a promise from Herr Filipino not to post anymore pish.

Godwin's Law would have been more appropriate last week when he was the opposing manager.

Mind you, it is the New Huns tomorrow.

[weecounty hibby]

I know you're only supposed to use the 'report' button for harassment/rudeness etc, but there really should be an exception made for gross stupidity and sheer brazen bawbaggery. If I read anymore of your posts there's a good chance I will jump out of my bedroom window, smashing glass all around me as I go, putting my own lifeat risk just to relieve the boredom.

That's what it's come to.
There is an ignore function. Problem is everyone needs to use it or you see that utter pish if folk reply.

[weecounty hibby]

Some of the posters on this site are getting worse, I mentioned earlier that its getting to the stage where I stop coming on here and I'm sure there are many others like myself now which is a shame as it was a good place to read and discuss hibs
Almost at that stage myself. Come on here looking for a wee snippet of news or some decent chat about Hibs. Leave feeling a bit depressed

[ancient hibee]

Yes tomorrow will tell whether we have had a reasonable recruitment effort or whether it has been totally mishandled although we should also remember that it looks as if Rangers are much improved.

[Bobby's Cinema]

There’s a real strange feel about this place for a team that have started the season with 14/15 points competitively and heading to Ibrox. Not getting it.

[hibeedonald]

Yes tomorrow will tell whether we have had a reasonable recruitment effort or whether it has been totally mishandled although we should also remember that it looks as if Rangers are much improved.

Agree. If we play well tomorrow and create chances but don't win, I'll still be relieved that the players at least have the potential to do well.

[FilipinoHibs]

There’s a real strange feel about this place for a team that have started the season with 14/15 points competitively and heading to Ibrox. Not getting it.

We have 3 points in the SPL and struggled to beat ST Mirren at home who have been getting whipped by lower league teams. One bit of Allan magic saved us. We missed sitters and looked venerable at the back when the Saints counter attacked. I for one am worried against an ever improving Rangers.

[Stuart93]

There’s a real strange feel about this place for a team that have started the season with 14/15 points competitively and heading to Ibrox. Not getting it.

People clearly haven’t taken to PH.

They’re waiting on him failing as oppose to just supporting the team

[Bobby's Cinema]

And by the way, potentially two games from Hampden (one of which being Morton at home) and it’s not even mid august

[Stuart93]

We have 3 points in the SPL and struggled to beat ST Mirren at home who have been getting whipped by lower league teams. One bit of Allan magic saved us. We missed sitters and looked venerable at the back when the Saints counter attacked. I for one am worried against an ever improving Rangers.

We see you pal 👋🏼

All over this thread like a virus

[bigwheel]

People clearly haven’t taken to PH.

They’re waiting on him failing as oppose to just supporting the team

That may be true for a minority, but (and I say this as a fan of PH) think it’s natural that the jury is out about our chances this season ...we’ve not played particularly well in most games and struggled in a few which should have been easy wins ...

The team will no doubt improve as players settle in ...but I think it’s reasonable for people to be a bit hesitant to be confident about this season ...

[Billy Whizz]

We have 3 points in the SPL and struggled to beat ST Mirren at home who have been getting whipped by lower league teams. One bit of Allan magic saved us. We missed sitters and looked venerable at the back when the Saints counter attacked. I for one am worried against an ever improving Rangers.

If we’d taken our chances, and had a decent ref, could have been 4-0 easily

[CapitalGreen]

We have 3 points in the SPL and struggled to beat ST Mirren at home who have been getting whipped by lower league teams. One bit of Allan magic saved us. We missed sitters and looked venerable at the back when the Saints counter attacked. I for one am worried against an ever improving Rangers.

The ever improving Rangers struggled to beat Kilmarnock who have been getting whipped by semi-professional Welsh teams.

[ancient hibee]

If we’d taken our chances, and had a decent ref, could have been 4-0 easily

Yes but missing chances as blatant as those were?

[JimBHibees]

That may be true for a minority, but (and I say this as a fan of PH) think it’s natural that the jury is out about our chances this season ...we’ve not played particularly well in most games and struggled in a few which should have been easy wins ...

The team will no doubt improve as players settle in ...but I think it’s reasonable for people to be a bit hesitant to be confident about this season ...

I think if most are honest it is early season and it will take time and as you say only natural to have some concerns however a wee bit of context needed plus support and patience.

[FilipinoHibs]

In the meantime..........

No transfer news beyond the near certainty we are signing Middleton on loan next week.

Tomorrow will be a big test of whether Heckingbottoms signings are up to scratch. Vela will need to step up several gears in midfield, Newall will need to work hard v Tavernier and try and keep him on the back foot. Doidge will have a part to play, hopefully in partnership with Kamberi up front. Jackson will also be tested v Morales.

It’s early in the season and the team is still gelling, but it’s the same for the Hun. We know what we get from the established players ( and Allan) and they’ve shown they can get results in big games. Hopefully, the new guys display the qualities we hope for.

I still think we some more in. I guess we find out at Ibrox.

Doidge will be on the bench and we will play 4-5-1. Rangers will be sharper with Europa league games. As you say a real test for us.

[MWHIBBIES]

Really don't think tomorrow matters as much as some are pretending. Mowbray got walloped there early in his first season, finished 3rd. Collins played them off the park and won 1-0, finished 6th. Our home form against everyone and away form Vs bottom six are main things. Draws away against top 6 are great results. Wins are incredible but not expected at all.

Results away at Ibrox have never determined the quality of a Hibs team because if Rangers play their best we lose 99/100.

[bigwheel]

I think if most are honest it is early season and it will take time and as you say only natural to have some concerns however a wee bit of context needed plus support and patience.

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[FilipinoHibs]

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Always support the team and. Never give a player a hard time during the game if he is trying his best. But does not stop you have concerns. My main one is a lack of goals from upfront. Why I raised the need for another striker. If we were still in for McNulty after signing Doidge then we cant be done in that department . Here is hoping.

[Is It On....]

Imagine we had used this as our policy and not signed david gray, we wouldnt have won the scottish cup, luckily we dont go with daft ideas like this, vela is almost 26 so technically was over 25 when he signed, doidge is also 26 I believe

Big ”old” Daz [who had been recently on a free] also had a header at the PBS that was quite important in getting us through 🙂. In general I think we shouldn’t be signing stop gap players like our neighbours and I think giving a 4 yr deal on a big wage to a guy in his 30s like Naismith is a very dangerous [and desperate] strategy to pursue.

[Turnbullsmate]

And with that, any last shred of credibility was gone.

But he can spell "it" Hradge...he was quick to tell me that

[superfurryhibby]

Really don't think tomorrow matters as much as some are pretending. Mowbray got walloped there early in his first season, finished 3rd. Collins played them off the park and won 1-0, finished 6th. Our home form against everyone and away form Vs bottom six are main things. Draws away against top 6 are great results. Wins are incredible but not expected at all.

Results away at Ibrox have never determined the quality of a Hibs team because if Rangers play their best we lose 99/100.

Tomorrow is just another game, but it’s a big test. I don’t think anyone’s really saying it’s the be all and end all, just that it’s a big game for us.

Call em optimistic, but I always hope for victory against all teams, particularly outside the old firm. As is often said, it’s the hope that kills you. I suppose our record at Ibrox over the past four seasons inspires a bit of confidence.

[Barman Stanton]

Always support the team and. Never give a player a hard time during the game if he is trying his best. But does not stop you have concerns. My main one is a lack of goals from upfront. Why I raised the need for another striker. If we were still in for McNulty after signing Doidge then we cant be done in that department . Here is hoping.

Problem is the likes of your negativity transfers itself on to the ground. It’s the same on all the Fb pages, moan moan moan. A couple of misplaced passes and you can feel the unrest in the ground. It’s a minority but you sure are loud about your feelings.

I personally think it’s the Scottish Cup win that has given our support a strange sense of entitlement. That and some people are just not going to take to Hecky for some reason. Can’t wait for him and his signings to fail.

As for your constant slaggings of Doidge, he may or may not turn out to be a good signing. At least get behind him and give him a chance ffs.

[FilipinoHibs]

Problem is the likes of your negativity transfers itself on to the ground. It’s the same on all the Fb pages, moan moan moan. A couple of misplaced passes and you can feel the unrest in the ground. It’s a minority but you sure are loud about your feelings.

I personally think it’s the Scottish Cup win that has given our support a strange sense of entitlement. That and some people are just not going to take to Hecky for some reason. Can’t wait for him and his signings to fail.

As for your constant slaggings of Doidge, he may or may not turn out to be a good signing. At least get behind him and give him a chance ffs.

I prefer PH to Lennon. But we are clearly constrained by our budget. I will support all the players on the park but let's face the facts about Doidge - both his record at tier 3 in England and what we have seen so far in friendlies, Betfred and SPL. As I said I hope he succeeds but given what I have said it seems unlikely. We have been outspent by Aberdeen and Hearts which it is likely we finish behind them. Only hope is Levein and the miss management at Hearts. I have only criticised players on field once and that was during the Butcher relegation run when some players were clearly not trying. A reaction to Malpas and Butcher's bully boy tactics.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I prefer PH to Lennon. But we are clearly constrained by our budget. I will support all the players on the park but let's face the facts about Doidge - both his record at tier 3 in England and what we have seen so far in friendlies, Betfred and SPL. As I said I hope he succeeds but given what I have said it seems unlikely. We have been outspent by Aberdeen and Hearts which it is likely we finish behind them. Only hope is Levein and the miss management at Hearts. I have only criticised players on field once and that was during the Butcher relegation run when some players were clearly not trying. A reaction to Malpas and Butcher's bully boy tactics.

On a scale of 1 to 10, just how solid will your erection be if Doidge turns out to be a poor signing?

Rein it in and get behind the team ffs.