Summer 2019 transfer thread

[Edinburgh Green]

In regards to Shankland, I actually spoke to him yesterday. Asked him where he was gonna be playing. Said he wasn’t sure but hoped something would be sorted in the next week. Asked if Hibs were interested, said they’d spoke to his agent a while back but that’s all he knew, interesting that he also said that the we were waiting to see what happens with Kamberi.

[J-C]

In regards to Shankland, I actually spoke to him yesterday. Asked him where he was gonna be playing. Said he wasn’t sure but hoped something would be sorted in the next week. Asked if Hibs were interested, said they’d spoke to his agent a while back but that’s all he knew, interesting that he also said that the we were waiting to see what happens with Kamberi.

That wouldn't surprise me, Kamberi is very decent but I don't think he's a Heckingbottom type of player, not as good a team player as McNulty is IMHO.

[SHODAN]

In regards to Shankland, I actually spoke to him yesterday. Asked him where he was gonna be playing. Said he wasn’t sure but hoped something would be sorted in the next week. Asked if Hibs were interested, said they’d spoke to his agent a while back but that’s all he knew, interesting that he also said that the we were waiting to see what happens with Kamberi.

I'm not sure Kamberi out and Shankland in would be an increase in quality, or even like-for-like.

[Heisenberg]

I'm not sure Kamberi out and Shankland in would be an increase in quality, or even like-for-like.

Agree. Flo has had a fantastic half season in the top league (with a downturn in form this season). Shankland ripped up the championship till January then fell apart after injury. He’s worth a punt but wouldn’t be desperate to get him.

[brog]

Aberdeen have multiple anonymous benefactors donating a combined amount of a few million quid each year.

It's this money that's keeping their turnover high and financing their stadium move and high wage bill.

Last comparison I seen implied they were paying significantly higher wages than both us and hearts.

The latest figures,1 year old, show Aberdeen paying approx £700 per week more than us. However those are average figures & there's a lot of guesstimates going on. I suspect we'll be closer to them when this year's (dodgy) numbers are revealed.

[we are hibs]

Daily record linking us to tranmere player connor jennings

[GloryGlory]

Daily record linking us to tranmere player connor jennings

https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-portsmouth-coventry-hibernian-plot-swoops-to-sign-tranmere-hero/

Coventry looking at him, too. Are they becoming this season's Sunderland? :greengrin

[007]

Daily record linking us to tranmere player connor jennings


https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-portsmouth-coventry-hibernian-plot-swoops-to-sign-tranmere-hero/

Coventry looking at him, too. Are they becoming this season's Sunderland? :greengrin

McNulty's dad says no they're not.

[GloryGlory]

McNulty's dad says no they're not.

Conor Jennings?

[Iggy Pope]

Conor Jennings?

Has TheCat changed his Username to McNulty’s Dad you think?

[Tyler Durden]

Aberdeen have multiple anonymous benefactors donating a combined amount of a few million quid each year.

It's this money that's keeping their turnover high and financing their stadium move and high wage bill.

Last comparison I seen implied they were paying significantly higher wages than both us and hearts.

This is a bit of a misconception IMO. They appointed a new board member who has invested heavily but that’s into the new stadium and training ground. None of the investment impacts turnover, it’s not revenue as such.

The last trading figures were for our first season back in the premier league. It showed they were paying something like £3m more than us on wages. Which was a massive gulf. I’d suggest that gap reduced last year and it’ll reduce again this year as our turnover steadily increases.

My previous post was reacting to the suggestion that Aberdeen can attract a better calibre of player. I don’t think that’s the case. No doubt they will have a higher wage bill than us again this season but their budget will be reducing and ours increasing. It’s not going to materially hold us back.

[007]

Has TheCat changed his Username to McNulty’s Dad you think?

:greengrin :aok:

[Unseen work]

Jennings seems to be able to play wide or up top.

13 goals and 10 assists this season in 55 appearances helping them get promoted. Not sure what the standard is like in league 2 but I imagine not great.

Going by a quick look he certainly scored a fair amount of screamers/volleys

Might be a hidden gem at 27...

[Since452]

Has TheCat changed his Username to McNulty’s Dad you think?

Hmmm...

McNulty's dad also reckons Scott Allan has signed a pre contract and will join us soon. Spooky.

[Robbo6-2]

Theres no proof we are just people putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5

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He hasn't signed for anyone yet. The national press have took a dodgy website and ran with the story that hes signing with Aberdeen. If the medical had took place like they said the deal would be over the line.

I believe we are still in for him and no decision been made either way.

[Iggy Pope]

Hmmm...

McNulty's dad also reckons Scott Allan has signed a pre contract and will join us soon. Spooky.

We’ve really really, really, got to hope Dempsters not involved in any of this negotiation or McNultys Dad will throw a tantrum and not come back to tell us any more secret stuff.

[Unseen work]

He hasn't signed for anyone yet. The national press have took a dodgy website and ran with the story that hes signing with Aberdeen. If the medical had took place like they said the deal would be over the line.

I believe we are still in for him and no decision been made either way.

Seem to know quite a lot about the Hedges deal, you know if we’re confident on getting him in or if it’s alll a bit up in the air at the moment?

Imagine Heckingbottom must be desperate to get him in if he’s worked with him and rates him

Cheers

[Unseen work]

Quite a lot of Aberdeen fans seem to think they’re after Barker. Anyone heard anything on this?

[SloopJB]

In regards to Shankland, I actually spoke to him yesterday. Asked him where he was gonna be playing. Said he wasn’t sure but hoped something would be sorted in the next week. Asked if Hibs were interested, said they’d spoke to his agent a while back but that’s all he knew, interesting that he also said that the we were waiting to see what happens with Kamberi.
all he knows about himself is that Hibs spoke to his agent a while back.
oh, and he knows something is going on with another player but not at his club, and nothing might happen with that player at the other club.

straight from the horses mouth, second hand.

[Michael]

I would definitely keep Kamberi, see how he gets on next season. Didn't really gel with the team this year, but with Allan he could get his form back.

[Robbo6-2]

Seem to know quite a lot about the Hedges deal, you know if we’re confident on getting him in or if it’s alll a bit up in the air at the moment?

Imagine Heckingbottom must be desperate to get him in if he’s worked with him and rates him

Cheers

I wont lie and say i know anymore than I do. My understanding is there has been talks with Hedges pretty much since Hecky came in. Nobody other than Hibs recruitment team will know 100% but ive been told the deal isn't dead yet. I said this even after the website broke the story about the medical which i dont believe to be true.

Hecky is keen to get him in, he is left sided but likes to play off the right.

No doubts will be a good signing for either us or Aberdeen.

[Robbo6-2]

In regards to Shankland, I actually spoke to him yesterday. Asked him where he was gonna be playing. Said he wasn’t sure but hoped something would be sorted in the next week. Asked if Hibs were interested, said they’d spoke to his agent a while back but that’s all he knew, interesting that he also said that the we were waiting to see what happens with Kamberi.

Interesting, we have had scouts at pretty much every home game for Ayr last season. I am not sure we were only watching Shankland tho.

My understanding is Shankland is desperate to go down south and earn more money.

Hopefully its nonsense because i think hed be a really good signing for us. A goalscorer is a goalscorer, the chances we create i think hed do really well here.

[04Sauzee]

Ross Mccormack now available on a free. Must have cost Villa a fortune

[Brooster]

I would definitely keep Kamberi, see how he gets on next season. Didn't really gel with the team this year, but with Allan he could get his form back.
I would sell to the first team who matches or exceeds our valuation. His attitude is atrocious, he hardly tried a leg all season. Nothing less than 100% in every game will do.....he doesn't try 100%.

[J-C]

I would sell to the first team who matches or exceeds our valuation. His attitude is atrocious, he hardly tried a leg all season. Nothing less than 100% in every game will do.....he doesn't try 100%.


I was told recently that his training was shocking when he could be bothered to turn up and that's why his relationship with Lennon deteriorated, maybe the reason Lennon called him out about his performances all the time, sees a player there who can't be ars ed. He looked like he was towing a caravan at times this season, couldn't put my finger on why but maybe this could be why, he also seemed to lose his smile on the park, always looked peed off, my opinion obviously.

[MikeyS]

Jennings seems to be able to play wide or up top.

13 goals and 10 assists this season in 55 appearances helping them get promoted. Not sure what the standard is like in league 2 but I imagine not great.

Going by a quick look he certainly scored a fair amount of screamers/volleys

Might be a hidden gem at 27...

Too lazy to check but is he the lad that went over to Bayern for a wee spell??

[Torto7]

I would sell to the first team who matches or exceeds our valuation. His attitude is atrocious, he hardly tried a leg all season. Nothing less than 100% in every game will do.....he doesn't try 100%.

I don't agree about his attitude, his form wasn't great-I'd agree with that. Sparky didn't look too hot playing up front on his own either btw. Allan/Boyle and greater consistency/second season from Horgan/Mallan should see our general play improve next season. I don't see any reason Flo can't get his confidence back. I'd keep him as his value must be peanuts just now.

[BILLYHIBS]

Don’t think I could stand another season of watching Kamberi hobbling about on the left wing scratching his arse and picking up stupid bookings and struggling to bring the ball under control and turn
We can do better

[bingo70]

I don't agree about his attitude, his form wasn't great-I'd agree with that. Sparky didn't look too hot playing up front on his own either btw. Allan/Boyle and greater consistency/second season from Horgan/Mallan should see our general play improve next season. I don't see any reason Flo can't get his confidence back. I'd keep him as his value must be peanuts just now.

Completely agree.

I personally never saw anything wrong with his effort, I just think his confidence was shot to pieces. He went from having Allan, Boyle, Barker, Mcginn and Mcgeouch creating for him to basically having to do it himself.

With a good pre-season he could still have a big part to play for us IMO.

[we are hibs]

I would sell to the first team who matches or exceeds our valuation. His attitude is atrocious, he hardly tried a leg all season. Nothing less than 100% in every game will do.....he doesn't try 100%.


I'm not having that he doesn't try. If you look at his instagram every other day he is out jogging or in the gym. Constantly trying to improve himself. He could quite easily go down the route of "its pre-season so ill do whatever i want for a month" but hasnt. there is clear frustration when things aren't coming off for him on the park. Doesn't help when for half a season he has had the ball shelled at his head with no support.


Why not give him the benefit of a good pre season, league cup games with Scott allan in the side and a new style of play rather than just dumping him before giving him a chance to show his worth?

[HibbyAndy]

I would sell to the first team who matches or exceeds our valuation. His attitude is atrocious, he hardly tried a leg all season. Nothing less than 100% in every game will do.....he doesn't try 100%.


You actually couldn't be further from the truth.

And you are a poster i hold in high esteem , But that is complete fabrication

[Robbo6-2]

I'm not having that he doesn't try. If you look at his instagram every other day he is out jogging or in the gym. Constantly trying to improve himself. He could quite easily go down the route of "its pre-season so ill do whatever i want for a month" but hasnt. there is clear frustration when things aren't coming off for him on the park. Doesn't help when for half a season he has had the ball shelled at his head with no support.


Why not give him the benefit of a good pre season, league cup games with Scott allan in the side and a new style of play rather than just dumping him before giving him a chance to show his worth?

Spot on, Kamberi is a top player and will come good

[SHODAN]

In January we'll be fending off bids for Kamberi from English clubs. Guarantee it.

[Brooster]

You actually couldn't be further from the truth.

And you are a poster i hold in high esteem , But that is complete fabrication

You don't have to agree but I'm entitled to my opinion. I will change my mind when I see this big laddie raising off the ground to challenge for high balls, bursting a gut to get on the end of a cross and not giving up when the ball breaks away. It's one thing posting your close season training photos on social media and another thing buckling down and giving everything in every game. It's no coincidence that our last 2 managers lost or are losing faith in him. I got ripped for suggesting McLaren wasn't good enough and time will tell on Kamberi. I would love to be wrong as he bangs 20 in next season by the way but he needs to up his game to do that.

[BILLYHIBS]

You don't have to agree but I'm entitled to my opinion. I will change my mind when I see this big laddie raising off the ground to challenge for high balls, bursting a gut to get on the end of a cross and not giving up when the ball breaks away. It's one thing posting your close season training photos on social media and another thing buckling down and giving everything in every game. It's no coincidence that our last 2 managers lost or are losing faith in him. I got ripped for suggesting McLaren wasn't good enough and time will tell on Kamberi. I would love to be wrong as he bangs 20 in next season by the way but he needs to up his game to do that.
Agree has been mostly merde this season
It would be interesting to know what Hecky really makes of him
The biggest disappointment for me was the games against Neil Lennons Celtic side
One would think that after being publicly called out by a Manager you would be bursting a gut to prove him wrong...nothing
Hooked against Hearts at home at half time for being ineffective and picking up yet another stupid booking
To me he brings nothing to the table though happy to be proved wrong

[SON OF PADDY]

I'm not having that he doesn't try. If you look at his instagram every other day he is out jogging or in the gym. Constantly trying to improve himself. He could quite easily go down the route of "its pre-season so ill do whatever i want for a month" but hasnt. there is clear frustration when things aren't coming off for him on the park. Doesn't help when for half a season he has had the ball shelled at his head with no support.


Why not give him the benefit of a good pre season, league cup games with Scott allan in the side and a new style of play rather than just dumping him before giving him a chance to show his worth?


I concur Flo's proved he's a good a player,it would be madness to get shot off him.

[Joe6-2]

Sorry if mentioned already, Ross McCormack released by Villa

[Unseen work]

In Europe and early season he was brilliant, he then got a couple of injuries which saw him sit out and he then played through them.

Lennon then completely slated him on a weekly basis, it’s not much wonder he had no confidence.

As previously suggested, we were playing brutal football and unable to create any form of decent or regular chances. I think a lot of people think it’s easy plucking the ball out the sky or controlling a fizzed in pass when you’re wrestling with a 6 ft 2 defender.

He is huffy and sulky at times but who wouldn’t be if that was your service, you were constantly getting slated and were injured? He has high standards and would have put himself under pressure.

He will come back fitter again and lose some muscle, making him more agile like he was the first 6 months.

With better service and confidence he will again start bullying defenders and scoring goals.

Last season in the final game against rangers he was unplayable.

[Brightside]

I was told recently that his training was shocking when he could be bothered to turn up and that's why his relationship with Lennon deteriorated, maybe the reason Lennon called him out about his performances all the time, sees a player there who can't be ars ed. He looked like he was towing a caravan at times this season, couldn't put my finger on why but maybe this could be why, he also seemed to lose his smile on the park, always looked peed off, my opinion obviously.

Hes never missed a training session and played when injured for most of the season. I'm very hopeful we will see a fully fit Kamberi next season.

[SHODAN]

Sorry if mentioned already, Ross McCormack released by Villa

It's time. :agree:

[Joe6-2]

It's time. :agree:

You think?

[Smartie]

Sorry if mentioned already, Ross McCormack released by Villa

Surprised by that, as I'd heard his wage had gone up to £70k per week upon Villa getting promotion. I'd be inclined to sit it out at his stage in his career, so to move on he must have got a pretty decent payoff.

A friend of mine on facebook has recently been in Magaluf on a stag with a few football-related people. They bumped into him and seemingly they were all calling him Ross McContract.

[Winston Ingram]

Surprised by that, as I'd heard his wage had gone up to £70k per week upon Villa getting promotion. I'd be inclined to sit it out at his stage in his career, so to move on he must have got a pretty decent payoff.

A friend of mine on facebook has recently been in Magaluf on a stag with a few football-related people. They bumped into him and seemingly they were all calling him Ross McContract.

He’s not been released, he’s signed a ‘variation agreement’ which means he trousered a huge payoff.

[Unseen work]

Any update on Jamie Devitt who we were linked with a month or so ago?

[neil7908]

Hes never missed a training session and played when injured for most of the season. I'm very hopeful we will see a fully fit Kamberi next season.

I like Kamberi a lot and want to him to stay.

But I do worry how he fits into the managers team and tactics. He's not a left winger/attacker for me. He needs to be up front and have someone alongside him.

One thing I find frustrating is that he seems to have been cast as a target man for us. That is not playing to his strengths for me.

He needs the ball at his feet and players moving around him. If he's going to be out on the wing or up front on his own I can see him struggling.

However, with the Allan to link up with and playing alongside another forward in a central role he'll get 15-20 goals for us.

[500miles]

Omeonga to come in after international duty?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Sorry if mentioned already, Ross McCormack released by Villa



must have got a great pay-off, he was due to see his salary rise to 70k/week for the remaining 12 months of his contract with villa getting promotion...i think a few of their players are due a big raise

[Unseen work]

Omeonga to come in after international duty?

Wishful thinking or hear something?

[Michael]

Never even noticed he was at Motherwell last season.

[500miles]

Wishful thinking or hear something?

Just still very engaged on social media. Doesn't seem to be getting near Genoa, who are in turmoil, and he's not THAT young a player anymore, so needs weekly football. Him, Allan, Mallan and a Box to Box grafter would make a very attacking midfield diamond, but also hard working and aggressive - if a little bit lightweight .

[Unseen work]

Just still very engaged on social media. Doesn't seem to be getting near Genoa, who are in turmoil, and he's not THAT young a player anymore, so needs weekly football. Him, Allan, Mallan and a Box to Box grafter would make a very attacking midfield diamond, but also hard working and aggressive - if a little bit lightweight .

I really liked Omeonga and thought he was a good addition at the time, very sharp and good work rate.

However I wouldn’t break the bank on him, unsure where he would fit in our team next season as he isn’t good enough going forward to play an attacking role and think we will have someone better defensively to play alongside Mallan.

He seemed to do the hard bit quite a lot but his final product or pass were often poor.

[Hibeesmad]

Brandon Barker in talks with Celtic

[cabbageandribs1875]

ah well, that'll be that then :(

[superfurryhibby]

Brandon Barker in talks with Celtic

Stalybridge Celtic?

[Hibeesmad]

Stalybridge Celtic?

Biggest team in Manchester

[Hibbyradge]

This is Hibs.net. All arguments can by won by a simple “and how do you know that?”

Intelligent play by the poster imo but lacked that bit of flair that I like to see at Hibs. I think this style of debate is more suited to an Aberdeen or Motherwell forum but it’s results that matter at the end of that day.

You are Pat Nevin and I claim my £5.

[04Sauzee]

Brandon Barker in talks with Celtic

Some amount of wingers

Johnston
Shved
Barker
Sinclair
Forrest
Morgan

[SHODAN]

Brandon Barker in talks with Celtic

I predict a grand total of 4 games for him over the whole season. Another waste of talent.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Biggest team in Manchester


he was at man city

[Unseen work]

Think the Barker rumour is coming from a alleged leak of a Celtic transfer meeting.

Going about online a list of the staffs minutes re playing joining and leaving.

[Michael]

Makes sense that he'd be off to Celtic with Lennon in charge. Shame as I was hoping he'd be back here. Really exciting player.

[cabbageandribs1875]

aston villa have let alan hutton go as well

[Mango Man]

aston villa have let alan hutton go as well

Would remind me too much of a Whittaker type signing, best days are way behind him.

[flash]

Brandon Barker in talks with Celtic

So he is.

[Since452]

So he is.

If the leaked document is true looks likely

[J-C]

Hes never missed a training session and played when injured for most of the season. I'm very hopeful we will see a fully fit Kamberi next season.

Only going by what I was told like most rumours.

[we are hibs]

Any update on Jamie Devitt who we were linked with a month or so ago?

Staying down south

[cabbageandribs1875]

Would remind me too much of a Whittaker type signing, best days are way behind him.



fairy nuff, i thought he was younger than whitty but they're both 34...maybe not

[Northernhibee]

Unless it's a very big name who still has plenty left in the tank we shouldn't be signing a player over 30 years old IMO. We got one season out of Milligan with no sell on, Whittaker has been disappointing and the likes of Hutton wouldn't improve us.

Experience for me only counts for anything if it's experience with Hibernian - that's why McGregor, Gray, Stevenson, Hanlon, Boyle are so invaluable. They know our club inside out and are a great advert for players to come to us. If they want to launch their career to the next level like McGinn then we are a great platform. If they want a long career, then we have players like that.

32 and 33 year olds may have 2-3 years at Premiership level left maximum and will lose their value quickly. By the time they know the club inside out they're past it.

Only pay fees for players under 26 years old, free transfers for 27-30 and only sign players above that in extreme individual circumstances. Settled teams, potential to create extra value or players we can enjoy the benefit of for some time.

[MWHIBBIES]

Unless it's a very big name who still has plenty left in the tank we shouldn't be signing a player over 30 years old IMO. We got one season out of Milligan with no sell on, Whittaker has been disappointing and the likes of Hutton wouldn't improve us.

Experience for me only counts for anything if it's experience with Hibernian - that's why McGregor, Gray, Stevenson, Hanlon, Boyle are so invaluable. They know our club inside out and are a great advert for players to come to us. If they want to launch their career to the next level like McGinn then we are a great platform. If they want a long career, then we have players like that.

32 and 33 year olds may have 2-3 years at Premiership level left maximum and will lose their value quickly. By the time they know the club inside out they're past it.

Only pay fees for players under 26 years old, free transfers for 27-30 and only sign players above that in extreme individual circumstances. Settled teams, potential to create extra value or players we can enjoy the benefit of for some time.

Just a blanket statement that doesn't apply on a case to case basis. McGregor signed when he was 29 with no experience of Hibs. Fontaine was 28/29 when he joined. Both worked out pretty well. A year on top of that wouldn't make much difference. Plenty of quality players over that age who could offer alot to Hibs.

[bingo70]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-16251139

Patrick Bauer from Charlton being mentioned.

Can’t see us needing another defender and if we do we’ve no chance if we’re competing with Charlton, Blackburn and Rangers.

[Smartie]

Unless it's a very big name who still has plenty left in the tank we shouldn't be signing a player over 30 years old IMO. We got one season out of Milligan with no sell on, Whittaker has been disappointing and the likes of Hutton wouldn't improve us.

Experience for me only counts for anything if it's experience with Hibernian - that's why McGregor, Gray, Stevenson, Hanlon, Boyle are so invaluable. They know our club inside out and are a great advert for players to come to us. If they want to launch their career to the next level like McGinn then we are a great platform. If they want a long career, then we have players like that.

32 and 33 year olds may have 2-3 years at Premiership level left maximum and will lose their value quickly. By the time they know the club inside out they're past it.

Only pay fees for players under 26 years old, free transfers for 27-30 and only sign players above that in extreme individual circumstances. Settled teams, potential to create extra value or players we can enjoy the benefit of for some time.

It's important not to have too many ageing players, but I wouldn't write off everyone over the age of 30.

We stand to lose a lot of experience from our side over the next few years. Some of it we could probably live without (as tbh we are fairly blessed with it right now) but we'll always need at least a couple of older players on the pitch, so how we go about replacing that experience will be interesting to see.

We've had some cracking oldies in the past, but the management team's job will be to sift the Sauzees and the Burridges from the Kujis and the Johanssons.

There have been times in the past that we've clearly lacked leadership on the park, I don't want to go back to those days.

[Northernhibee]

Just a blanket statement that doesn't apply on a case to case basis. McGregor signed when he was 29 with no experience of Hibs. Fontaine was 28/29 when he joined. Both worked out pretty well. A year on top of that wouldn't make much difference. Plenty of quality players over that age who could offer alot to Hibs.

As I said, case by case basis. But we got McGregor on a free as we did Fontaine. Good signings. We got 3 seasons out of Fonts and have gotten more out of McGregor and even though McGregor is past his peak his experience with Hibs means that doesn't matter.

The two you've picked kind of prove my point - we should be signing players with at least three or four seasons in mind, not one or two like we've done with Milligan, Whittaker etc.

[Northernhibee]

There have been times in the past that we've clearly lacked leadership on the park, I don't want to go back to those days.

Leadership should come from the likes of Porteous, Boyle, Hanlon who have several seasons in them and have been with the club for a while. This is the point I'm making, nothing wrong with having 32, 33 year olds in the team but I want them to have several years experience with Hibs to add value to them even if their playing ability is beginning to decline.

Someone at 32-33 who hasn't grown and learned with the team in the last few seasons is almost always a waste of a wage IMO. They're not going to be worth anything to us in a monetary value and a player who signed aged 28-29 and has had three seasons with us and have earned the respect of the rest of the team through their efforts and achievements for us will be 100 times more valuable for team spirit and morale than a "leader" who has been parachuted in without introduction.

There are exceptions - Burridge, Sauzee but they're truly few and far between. A player who has been in the dressing room for 3-4 seasons and has been coached by our coaching staff to lead and take responsibility is the best possible outcome IMO.

[The_Horde]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-16251139

Patrick Bauer from Charlton being mentioned.

Can’t see us needing another defender and if we do we’ve no chance if we’re competing with Charlton, Blackburn and Rangers.

Rather have Jack.

[Smartie]

Rather have Jack.

Than have Fleetwood Mac?

[Tyler Durden]

Fully into silly season now with people believing that Celtic are after Barker and Rangers going for Shankland.

Gonna be a long 8 weeks.

[Tyler Durden]

I like Kamberi a lot and want to him to stay.

But I do worry how he fits into the managers team and tactics. He's not a left winger/attacker for me. He needs to be up front and have someone alongside him

He won’t fit into many managers tactics then as very few teams play 2 out and out centre forwards playing closely together. If he wants to progress he needs to deliver as a solo number 9 or a wide forward. That’s football in 2019.

IMO he can definitely be our first choice 9 if he gets his head right

[badabing67]

Omeonga to come in after international duty?


How do you know that ?

[Smartie]

He won’t fit into many managers tactics then as very few teams play 2 out and out centre forwards playing closely together. If he wants to progress he needs to deliver as a solo number 9 or a wide forward. That’s football in 2019.

IMO he can definitely be our first choice 9 if he gets his head right

I also think he can do it, but his chances of success will be as much down to the service / getting runners up to him, as it will be down to him getting his head right. He's very hit or miss with his back to goal, but very good when played in, running at goal.

He'll benefit more than anyone from Scott Allan's arrival.

[Heisenberg]

Ryan Hedges confirmed at Aberdeen on a 3 year deal.

[Iain G]

Ryan Hedges confirmed at Aberdeen on a 3 year deal.

Hearing they will sign Robert Guillaume to partner him.

[NC1875]

Ryan Hedges confirmed at Aberdeen on a 3 year deal.

Petrie!!!!!!

[Stuart93]

How do you know that ?

Surely the use of a question mark would suggest he was asking the question

[Oscar T Grouch]

Hearing they will sign Robert Guillaume to partner him.

Only people of a certain vintage will get that one, but very good :thumbsup:

[GloryGlory]

Hearing they will sign Robert Guillaume to partner him.

I heard it was someone called Benson. :greengrin

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Aberdeen have never had it so lucky in the last few years with us, the huns and hearts in the championship.

I really hope we can start to chip away at their over-bloated egos in the next few seasons.

[PatHead]

Aberdeen have never had it so lucky in the last few years with us, the huns and hearts in the championship.

I really hope we can start to chip away at their over-bloated egos in the next few seasons.

Hope it snows in Aberdeen tomorrow.

[Unseen work]

Aberdeen have never had it so lucky in the last few years with us, the huns and hearts in the championship.

I really hope we can start to chip away at their over-bloated egos in the next few seasons.

I hate Aberdeen as next as the next guy but have they been lucky?

Us and hearts were relegated because we were absolutley awful, that’s like fans saying we were lucky we finished 5th this season because United, Dunfermline and teams like that weren’t in the top division and if they were it would have made a difference.

Aberdeen have vastly improved over the past 7 years or so, became consistent and consistently finished 2/3rd.

Were a massive club, but we were relegated as we were awful. If we were in the top division we wouldn’t have made the slightest difference to Aberdeen or where the finished

Getting relegated turned out quite well for us as the club for a complete freshen up.

[Greencore]

I hate Aberdeen as next as the next guy but have they been lucky?

Us and hearts were relegated because we were absolutley awful, that’s like fans saying we were lucky we finished 5th this season because United, Dunfermline and teams like that weren’t in the top division and if they were it would have made a difference.

Aberdeen have vastly improved over the past 7 years or so, became consistent and consistently finished 2/3rd.

Were a massive club, but we were relegated as we were awful. If we were in the top division we wouldn’t have made the slightest difference to Aberdeen or where the finished

Getting relegated turned out quite well for us as the club for a complete freshen up.

Don't they have a random American investor pumping cash into them? Also don't they average 13,000 a game on average?
That's pretty lucky considering we average more and are behind them financially.

[Unseen work]

Don't they have a random American investor pumping cash into them? Also don't they average 13,000 a game on average?
That's pretty lucky considering we average more and are behind them financially.

If it’s McCormack you mean Im sure he’s from Aberdeen but made his money in America and has friends there.

In that sense you could maybe say they’re lucky? However I’m unsure if that could be classed as luck as such. But that wasn’t the point stated, it was that Aberdeen were lucky Rangers, Hearts and us weren't in the top division to compete with them for 2nd.

[Unseen work]

Bauer looks like he would be a very good signing on paper. Would presumably mean Hanlon would be leaving? Can’t see us having 5 centre half’s.

Sounds unlikely though with Rangers, Preston, Wigan, Milwall and us all interested with Charlton offering him a new deal too.

[Larry Burns]

Aberdeen have better corporate hospitality / commercial deals than Hibs

Advantages of being a one city club

Well, you have Cove now I suppose :greengrin

[The Sundance Kid]

Bauer looks like he would be a very good signing on paper. Would presumably mean Hanlon would be leaving? Can’t see us having 5 centre half’s.

Sounds unlikely though with Rangers, Preston, Wigan, Milwall and us all interested with Charlton offering him a new deal too.

Kenny Millar commented on Twitter that there was nothing in the story from our point of view

[K-Zazu]

Bauer looks like he would be a very good signing on paper. Would presumably mean Hanlon would be leaving? Can’t see us having 5 centre half’s.

Sounds unlikely though with Rangers, Preston, Wigan, Milwall and us all interested with Charlton offering him a new deal too.

Sure I read somewhere that Jackson has played as a CM for Hecky before so he could have been brought in to play there

[JimBHibees]

Bauer looks like he would be a very good signing on paper. Would presumably mean Hanlon would be leaving? Can’t see us having 5 centre half’s.

Sounds unlikely though with Rangers, Preston, Wigan, Milwall and us all interested with Charlton offering him a new deal too.

Cant see anyway we would have a chance with Bauer giving he scored the winner and they are heading to the championship.

[Unseen work]

Sure I read somewhere that Jackson has played as a CM for Hecky before so he could have been brought in to play there

I saw someone on here saying that too however going by Barnsley fans and wha he has said it sounds like he’s a no nonsense centre half.

[hhibs]

I heard it was someone called Benson. :greengrin


Too much time watching reruns me thinks !

[04Sauzee]

Ash Taylor signs for Aberdeen 2 year deal

[007]

Kenny Millar commented on Twitter that there was nothing in the story from our point of view

I won't be believing it unless McNulty's dad says it's true.

[eastmainsmsh]

Paul Coutts and 2 dundalk players

[3pm]

What about them?

[04Sauzee]

Paul Coutts and 2 dundalk players

Walk into a bar?

[Heisenberg]

Liam Kelly leaving Livingston. Looks like they’ll really struggle next season.

[Unseen work]

Paul Coutts and 2 dundalk players

Would be delighted with Coutts. Any idea who the Dundalk players are?

Michael Duffy and John Mountney seem to be good for them.

[CapitalGreen]

Paul Coutts and 2 dundalk players

Coutts is 30 years old, some folk on here won’t be happy with that.

As for Dundalk players, I think we were linked with Patrick McEleney previously. Only other player who I can imagine we might be interested in would be Michael Duffy, winger and ex-Celtic youth player.

[dunfyhibby]

Coutts is 30 years old, some folk on here won’t be happy with that.

As for Dundalk players, I think we were linked with Patrick McEleney previously. Only other player who I can imagine we might be interested in would be Michael Duffy, winger and ex-Celtic youth player.

This is taken from hibs rumours
04 Jun 2019 01:13:45
I have been made aware that Hibs have been present at a few Dundalk games this season in the League of Ireland looking at Patrick Hoban and Michael Duffy (formerly of Celtic and Dundee) .

Also heard Hibs offered a contract to Lincoln City Midfieder Michael O'Connor however he turned it down as he didn't want to move his family as they are settled with life in Lincoln

Hibs have also held talks with representatives of Paul Coutts who has been released by Sheff Utd.

[CapitalGreen]

This is taken from hibs rumours
04 Jun 2019 01:13:45
I have been made aware that Hibs have been present at a few Dundalk games this season in the League of Ireland looking at Patrick Hoban and Michael Duffy (formerly of Celtic and Dundee) .

Also heard Hibs offered a contract to Lincoln City Midfieder Michael O'Connor however he turned it down as he didn't want to move his family as they are settled with life in Lincoln

Hibs have also held talks with representatives of Paul Coutts who has been released by Sheff Utd.

Hibs rumours 🤦🏻*♂️

[SteveHFC]

Charlton defender Patrick Bauer linked with us.

[04Sauzee]

Charlton defender Patrick Bauer linked with us.

As earlier mentioned here it's been rubbished

[Spike Mandela]

Charlton defender Patrick Bauer linked with us.

Is he 24?

[hibees 7062]

This is taken from hibs rumours
04 Jun 2019 01:13:45
I have been made aware that Hibs have been present at a few Dundalk games this season in the League of Ireland looking at Patrick Hoban and Michael Duffy (formerly of Celtic and Dundee) .

Also heard Hibs offered a contract to Lincoln City Midfieder Michael O'Connor however he turned it down as he didn't want to move his family as they are settled with life in Lincoln

Hibs have also held talks with representatives of Paul Coutts who has been released by Sheff Utd.

:eek:

[SHODAN]

We've been linked with Michael O'Connor for like a decade.

[bingo70]

Paul Coutts and 2 dundalk players

Is that from the hibs rumours page or did they get that from here?

[stuart-farquhar]

Aberdeen have better corporate hospitality / commercial deals than Hibs

Advantages of being a one city club

Well, you have Cove now I suppose :greengrin

Aberdeen however is smaller. And has seen an economic downturn albeit small. What are these commercial arrangements they have?

[04Sauzee]

Is that from the hibs rumours page or did they get that from here?

Think it's been lifted from Hibs rumours 🤔

[Speedway]

We've been linked with Michael O'Connor for like a decade.

Yup. He’s the new Jamie Cureton.

[Fergus52]

Aberdeen however is smaller. And has seen an economic downturn albeit small. What are these commercial arrangements they have?

They have a few anonymous people investing lots in the club each year.

Was a BBC article on it a while ago.

[Unseen work]

I realise the Coutts and Dundalk player rumours were posted on a transfer rumour page, however is it any different to someone posting s rumour on here?

FWIW I don’t think we stand a chance with Coutts, if he moves back to Scotland it will be to Aberdeen.

[FifeHibs]

They have a few anonymous people investing lots in the club each year.

Was a BBC article on it a while ago.

Wm Donald Engineering wiped loads off the debt off

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/13189128.aberdeen-agree-deal-to-clear-debts-of-almost-15m/

[bingo70]

I realise the Coutts and Dundalk player rumours were posted on a transfer rumour page, however is it any different to someone posting s rumour on here?

FWIW I don’t think we stand a chance with Coutts, if he moves back to Scotland it will be to Aberdeen.

I’d never heard of him until someone mentioned him on here earlier, surprised to see he’s a Scottish guy that’s had a decent career in England without getting a call up.

The people on that transfer rumour page don’t post rumours, they make them up. I think it’s based on who people sign on Football manager but either way it’s always bollocks.

[Smartie]

Yup. He’s the new Jamie Cureton.

I miss being able to wheel out a Babylon pun every year when we're linked with David Gray.

[stokesmessiah]

I miss being able to wheel out a Babylon pun every year when we're linked with David Gray.

This years love for puns will be over some other player unfortunately.

[brog]

Aberdeen have better corporate hospitality / commercial deals than Hibs

Advantages of being a one city club

Well, you have Cove now I suppose :greengrin

Just not true. I say that as someone whose company was involved in sponsorship of Dons for many years.

[GreenCastle]

Cammy Kerr just signed a new deal at Dundee. Maybe not Hibs bound.

[FifeHibs]

Just not true. I say that as someone whose company was involved in sponsorship of Dons for many years.

Aberdeen have 8 different corporate choices ranging from Boxes in the Dick Donald Stand £23k a season (10 people) Boxes in the Main stand £15k a season (8 people), Alex Ferguson lounge, Gothenburg Lounge and Black and Gold lounge all around £15k a season for a table for 4 people. each lounge roughly accommodates 10 tables.

[GreenOnions]

Cammy Kerr just signed a new deal at Dundee. Maybe not Hibs bound.

IMHO that's Cammy Kerr's level. Good luck to him - but if he'd had better offers I'm sure he might have taken one. I hope we're aiming higher than that

[Unseen work]

Would like to see us try get Ariyibi permanently from Forrest who are allowing him to leave

Very tricky winger who has impressed this season, caused Gray a lot of problems.

[Speedway]

I’m still hoping that we’re keeping an eye on Mikel Miller’s development at the Accies.

[Last Minute]

Would like to see us try get Ariyibi permanently from Forrest who are allowing him to leave

Very tricky winger who has impressed this season, caused Gray a lot of problems.


:agree:very good player and also hope we are looking at him.

[Spudster]

Just not true. I say that as someone whose company was involved in sponsorship of Dons for many years.
I think he means good for the club whereas you are suggesting not good for the client?
Aberdeen make much more money than us through corporate I believe. Loads of engineering, drilling companies etc take up the boxes at full price.

[04Sauzee]

I’m still hoping that we’re keeping an eye on Mikel Miller’s development at the Accies.

Thought he would be a decent signing in January. After watching him later in the season looked like he had gone of the boil a bit

[brog]

I think he means good for the club whereas you are suggesting not good for the client?
Aberdeen make much more money than us through corporate I believe. Loads of engineering, drilling companies etc take up the boxes at full price.

No, I think it's a Hibs Net myth that Dons make much more from corporate sales than we do. One of the main drivers for them moving from Pittodrie is to have modern hospitality facilities like we have! The oil boom is long gone, my old company sold it's last North Sea assets last week. We sponsored an English lower level club for many years & we paid them more than we did the Sheep.

[Smartie]

Thought he would be a decent signing in January. After watching him later in the season looked like he had gone of the boil a bit

By his nature he's a bit hot and cold. A young lad, doesn't have much experience and plays out wide. Some days everything will go for him, some days nothing will. If he was perfect he wouldn't be at Accies.

That's why scouting involves watching a player closely over a number of games, rather than us fans watching a player do well against us for 90 minutes and thinking "he'll do".

He still might be worth a punt. See how much Boyle has developed since he joined us.

[bigwheel]

By his nature he's a bit hot and cold. A young lad, doesn't have much experience and plays out wide. Some days everything will go for him, some days nothing will. If he was perfect he wouldn't be at Accies.

That's why scouting involves watching a player closely over a number of games, rather than us fans watching a player do well against us for 90 minutes and thinking "he'll do".

He still might be worth a punt. See how much Boyle has developed since he joined us.


I wonder if he had a "worldly" against us though - every time I read about him or watched him since that game he has come over/ looked bang average....

[FifeHibs]

No, I think it's a Hibs Net myth that Dons make much more from corporate sales than we do. One of the main drivers for them moving from Pittodrie is to have modern hospitality facilities like we have! The oil boom is long gone, my old company sold it's last North Sea assets last week. We sponsored an English lower level club for many years & we paid them more than we did the Sheep.

We only have The Gallery and Edinburgh Suite. Aberdeen have 8 different options including private glasssed boxes in the Dick Donald stand.

The cost of upkeep at Pittodrie is too much and is riddled with Asbestos, making maintenance slow and costly. Stewart Milne is putting flats where Pittodrie is just now.

Unfortunately the corporate options are superior at Pittodrie at the moment. Still plenty

[Greenbeard]

Per BBC online gossip column.......Hibs are interested in making a move for 27-year-old Tranmere Rovers striker Connor Jennings. (Daily Star - print edition) ?????

[Caversham Green]

No, I think it's a Hibs Net myth that Dons make much more from corporate sales than we do. One of the main drivers for them moving from Pittodrie is to have modern hospitality facilities like we have! The oil boom is long gone, my old company sold it's last North Sea assets last week. We sponsored an English lower level club for many years & we paid them more than we did the Sheep.

Aberdeen break down their turnover (they have to because they're a PLC) but Hibs don't.

Aberdeen's turnover for 2017-18 was (in 000s):

Gate receipts - £4,801
Sponsorship ans advertising-£2,008
Broadcasting rights - £2,855
Commercial - £4,875
UEFA solidarity and prize money - £841
Other operating revenue - £35
Total £15,415.

Hibs total turnover was £9,556.

I would expect gate receipts to be similar for both clubs and the other categories to possibly be slightly higher for Aberdeen as they were an established top-flight club and Hibs hadn't been for the previous three years, but the stand out figure for me is 'commercial'. Given it's separate from sponsorship and advertising I'm not sure what it represents, but it's their single biggest source of income.

[Real Emerald]

Aberdeen break down their turnover (they have to because they're a PLC) but Hibs don't.

Aberdeen's turnover for 2017-18 was (in 000s):

Gate receipts - £4,801
Sponsorship ans advertising-£2,008
Broadcasting rights - £2,855
Commercial - £4,875
UEFA solidarity and prize money - £841
Other operating revenue - £35
Total £15,415.

Hibs total turnover was £9,556.

I would expect gate receipts to be similar for both clubs and the other categories to possibly be slightly higher for Aberdeen as they were an established top-flight club and Hibs hadn't been for the previous three years, but the stand out figure for me is 'commercial'. Given it's separate from sponsorship and advertising I'm not sure what it represents, but it's their single biggest source of income.

So their commercial turnover is more than half our entire turnover. Where does that come from?

[hibbydad]

The commercial is definitely an area we need to look at expanding

[portyfelly]

:rolleyes:


Aberdeen break down their turnover (they have to because they're a PLC) but Hibs don't.

Aberdeen's turnover for 2017-18 was (in 000s):

Gate receipts - £4,801
Sponsorship ans advertising-£2,008
Broadcasting rights - £2,855
Commercial - £4,875
UEFA solidarity and prize money - £841
Other operating revenue - £35
Total £15,415.

Hibs total turnover was £9,556.

I would expect gate receipts to be similar for both clubs and the other categories to possibly be slightly higher for Aberdeen as they were an established top-flight club and Hibs hadn't been for the previous three years, but the stand out figure for me is 'commercial'. Given it's separate from sponsorship and advertising I'm not sure what it represents, but it's their single biggest source of income.

[Real Emerald]

The commercial is definitely an area we need to look at expanding

We could look at it all we like but we’re never going to make £250k per home game! We don’t even get that per season for shirt sponsorship. It’s a massive amount of money!

[Real Emerald]

The commercial is definitely an area we need to look at expanding

A quick calculation would suggest its equivalent to around 11,000 more fans at every home game to amas that amount of money over a season. It sticks in your throat that they are 3,000 fans short of us at every game as well. Financial doping again.

[hibbydad]

Theyhave to try Real Emarald is the Forth View ever used now or the boxes in the famous five

[hibbyfraelibby]

Aberdeen break down their turnover (they have to because they're a PLC) but Hibs don't.

Aberdeen's turnover for 2017-18 was (in 000s):

Gate receipts - £4,801
Sponsorship ans advertising-£2,008
Broadcasting rights - £2,855
Commercial - £4,875
UEFA solidarity and prize money - £841
Other operating revenue - £35
Total £15,415.

Hibs total turnover was £9,556.

I would expect gate receipts to be similar for both clubs and the other categories to possibly be slightly higher for Aberdeen as they were an established top-flight club and Hibs hadn't been for the previous three years, but the stand out figure for me is 'commercial'. Given it's separate from sponsorship and advertising I'm not sure what it represents, but it's their single biggest source of income.

You have to remember that Aberdeen FC is the only show in town as far as commercial opportunities for corporates are concerned. We have to compete with the SRU, Edinburgh Rugby, Musselburgh Racecourse and Them. Not to mention the proximity to the Uglies and Hampden.

Aberdeen is relatively isolated with no competition to speak of and the purse string holders for the corporate stuff don't come from a more traditional rugby background.

[Real Emerald]

Theyhave to try Real Emarald is the Forth View ever used now or the boxes in the famous five

I was in The Gallery hospitality recently and over the years been to the FF when there were hundreds there for a three course meal and then onto one of the boxes. I’ve also been to the hospitality in the West when it first opened and the Gallery a few times. It’s really noticeable the huge reduction in corporate tables and places throughout the stadium. I remember there were multiple tables from all the banks and insurance companies, which have now all disappeared.

So whilst agreeing we must try to increase the corporate revenue, we couldn’t get near making £250k a game. That money Aberdeen get must be from Hearts like donations. It’s impossible to make that from game by game commercial activities. Don’t know how we could compete with that!

[CMurdoch]

Would like to see us try get Ariyibi permanently from Forrest who are allowing him to leave

Very tricky winger who has impressed this season, caused Gray a lot of problems.

I was impressed by the guy. Fast, tricky, end product and not permanently injured.

[bingo70]

I was impressed by the guy. Fast, tricky, end product and not permanently injured.

His stats aren’t that great for someone with an end product and never injured.

Do appreciate there is more to the game than what you see on Wikipedia though but first impressions are that maybe he’s not as good as you might think based on that appearance against us.

[hibbydad]

Real Emerald do you think it was relegation that caused us to loose the corporates

[Real Emerald]

Real Emerald do you think it was relegation that caused us to loose the corporates

No it was probably the banking crisis. No way could RBS etc pump money into football sponsorship when they’d just been bailed out by the government. That plus a general downturn in the economy. Companies couldn’t justify the outlay anymore. When we were there a few weeks back it was mostly private parties celebrating birthdays etc. that we’re there. A big change from days gone by.

[hibbydad]

And a huge fall in income I am going to the father's day bash but the way they have been pushing it suggests that is not being well supported either

[green day]

No it was probably the banking crisis. No way could RBS etc pump money into football sponsorship when they’d just been bailed out by the government. That plus a general downturn in the economy. Companies couldn’t justify the outlay anymore. When we were there a few weeks back it was mostly private parties celebrating birthdays etc. that we’re there. A big change from days gone by.

Not banking, but I used to work for a big pension provider in Edinburgh, and think you are right that Edinburgh being quite "Finance heavy" is now a bit of a hindrance.

When there I was lucky enough to be in a role where I offering corporate hospitality on a pretty big scale, and in that particular industry the regulation relating to "inducements" hit hard (rightly, tbh).

Some people took IFAs out to football, rugby, tennis, racing etc etc - loads of bevvy and food = loads spent.

However these days you can hardly buy someone a sandwich and it all needs to be written down and justified.

We could still take "end customers" out but in many cases they also had governance policies which meant they couldnt accept hospitality from a vendor - again all for good reason.

We used to sponsor tennis on a massive scale, but when that came to an end, so did the £millions per year spend on hospitality.

To come round to the Aberdeen comparison, they have a lot of Oil Industry sponsors, and I know from experience of working with one of the largest that they have absolutely no problem in giving and receiving big ticket hospitality :greengrin

[Renfrew_Hibby]

It may have been the case that corporate sponsorship has taken a huge dowturn since the 2008 crash but it must have bottomed out and be on the rise again as the economy slowly recovers.

There are obviously still plenty of opportunities out there as Hearts and Aberdeen are proving.

How can it be that Everton are planning to reserve up to 10,000 seats at their new stadium for the corporate market (roughly 20% of the proposed capacity). They say this is vital for not only funding the build but essential for the progression of the club. Everton fans are quite happy with this as they see it as a necessary evil in modern day football.

If the city of Liverpool and the surrounding area can deliver that level of corporate support (remember Everton aren't even the main draw in town) then surely Edinburgh as a financial centre and the wider Lothians could offer a similar level of support?

[Real Emerald]

Not banking, but I used to work for a big pension provider in Edinburgh, and think you are right that Edinburgh being quite "Finance heavy" is now a bit of a hindrance.

When there I was lucky enough to be in a role where I offering corporate hospitality on a pretty big scale, and in that particular industry the regulation relating to "inducements" hit hard (rightly, tbh).

Some people took IFAs out to football, rugby, tennis, racing etc etc - loads of bevvy and food = loads spent.

However these days you can hardly buy someone a sandwich and it all needs to be written down and justified.

We could still take "end customers" out but in many cases they also had governance policies which meant they couldnt accept hospitality from a vendor - again all for good reason.

We used to sponsor tennis on a massive scale, but when that came to an end, so did the £millions per year spend on hospitality.

To come round to the Aberdeen comparison, they have a lot of Oil Industry sponsors, and I know from experience of working with one of the largest that they have absolutely no problem in giving and receiving big ticket hospitality :greengrin

That’s exactly what I was getting at, it’s all been knocked on the head and probably won’t come back relating to the Edinburgh financial firms.

[GloryGlory]

It may have been the case that corporate sponsorship has taken a huge dowturn since the 2008 crash but it must have bottomed out and be on the rise again as the economy slowly recovers.

There is obviously still plenty of opportunities out there as Hearts and Aberdeen are proving.

How can it be that Everton are planning to reserve up to 10,000 seats at their new stadium for the corporate market (roughly 20% of the proposed capacity). They say this is vital for not only funding the build but essential for the progression of the club. Everton fans are quite happy with this as they see it as a necessary evil in modern day football.

If the city of Liverpool and the surrounding area can deliver that level corporate support (remember Everton aren't even the main draw in town) then surely Edinburgh as a financial centre and the wider Lothians could offer a similar level of support?

The EPL is a much bigger draw to sponsors, simply because of the world wide coverage it gets. The SPFL is strictly lower league when it comes to the level of exposure that corporate sponsors can get.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

I feel this thread has gone slightly off the title topic

I got all excited when I saw 2 pages of threads had been added since I last saw it

[Billy Whizz]

I feel this thread has gone slightly off the title topic

I got all excited when I saw 2 pages of threads had been added since I last saw it

Thanks for adding to it!!!

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Thanks for adding to it!!!

You're welcome

[MagicSwirlingShip]

I feel this thread has gone slightly off the title topic

I got all excited when I saw 2 pages of threads had been added since I last saw it

Found the last 2 pages more interesting than most of the previous myself.

[Franck Stanton]

Thanks for adding to it!!!

He's right though.

[Spudster]

No, I think it's a Hibs Net myth that Dons make much more from corporate sales than we do. One of the main drivers for them moving from Pittodrie is to have modern hospitality facilities like we have! The oil boom is long gone, my old company sold it's last North Sea assets last week. We sponsored an English lower level club for many years & we paid them more than we did the Sheep.
The boom may be gone but it's still huge business. I got to Pittodrie corporate probably twice a year and it's always packed and the vast majority is oil related companies.

[GloryGlory]

The boom may be gone but it's still huge business. I got to Pittodrie corporate probably twice a year and it's always packed and the vast majority is oil related companies.

Well, it's that or the Aberdeenshire and District Regional Sheep Shearing Championship. :greengrin

[TrinityHibs]

Aberdeen break down their turnover (they have to because they're a PLC) but Hibs don't.

Aberdeen's turnover for 2017-18 was (in 000s):

Gate receipts - £4,801
Sponsorship ans advertising-£2,008
Broadcasting rights - £2,855
Commercial - £4,875
UEFA solidarity and prize money - £841
Other operating revenue - £35
Total £15,415.

Hibs total turnover was £9,556.

I would expect gate receipts to be similar for both clubs and the other categories to possibly be slightly higher for Aberdeen as they were an established top-flight club and Hibs hadn't been for the previous three years, but the stand out figure for me is 'commercial'. Given it's separate from sponsorship and advertising I'm not sure what it represents, but it's their single biggest source of income.

Do they not run their food kiosks internally whereas we outsource? Also has anyone actually worked out where AFC are going to get £50M for their new ground? Bearing in mind Pittodrie is currently worth less than £10M (location and flats not working for housebuilders just now.

[FifeHibs]

Do they not run their food kiosks internally whereas we outsource? Also has anyone actually worked out where AFC are going to get £50M for their new ground? Bearing in mind Pittodrie is currently worth less than £10M (location and flats not working for housebuilders just now.

There is no shortage of flats being built in Aberdeen City Centre, student accommodation is going up all over the place. I'd expect WM Donald to be doing most of the civics work as part off writing off Aberdeen Debts and others will be tax avoidance schemes.

The new commercial manager is tasked to increase the revenue to £20 million a year when they move.

Outwith DNA and the hospitality, the Dons are trying to engage allot more with local businesses.

https://www.afc.co.uk/commercial/by-official-appointment/

They also run Gothenburg nights that the old boys at work lap up.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Aberdeen might have oil money and a captive market. But we operate in one of the worlds biggest tourist cities for its size, never mind Scotland's. Its a market both Hibs and Hearts seem singularly inept at tapping into. How many folk on this forum would at least consider going to watch a game if they were abroad … I know I would.

Its one reason why building an hotel in the FF / East corner isn't such an outlandish idea as folk seem to think … OK its not Princes street or the Royal Mile, but its fairly central compared to a lot of Edinburgh with the main tourist attractions literally a 10 minute bus ride away … Edinburgh has the 2nd highest hotel room occupancy rate in the whole of Europe I'm lead to believe.

It could be done in partnership with one of the chains on a lease basis with Hibs cutting a deal for a guaranteed annual income. The only stipulation being that as part of the build the FF stand is widened by three metres.

[GloryGlory]

Aberdeen might have oil money and a captive market. But we operate in one of the worlds biggest tourist cities for its size, never mind Scotland's. Its a market both Hibs and Hearts seem singularly inept at tapping into. How many folk on this forum would at least consider going to watch a game if they were abroad … I know I would.

I don't understand why we don't have a souvenir shop in the centre of town - even if just for the summer. When I go abroad, I buy local football souvenirs - scarves, keyrings, fridge magnets - and many football fans must come to Edinburgh over the course of the year. Plus there's that many empty shops in the town centre, I'm sure the landlords would be reasonable re rent, even if only for a few months.

[BILLYHIBS]

Aberdeen might have oil money and a captive market. But we operate in one of the worlds biggest tourist cities for its size, never mind Scotland's. Its a market both Hibs and Hearts seem singularly inept at tapping into. How many folk on this forum would at least consider going to watch a game if they were abroad … I know I would.
Seen loads of tourists getting turned away from the TO because they are not on the database especially Category A games just plain nuts
Felt sorry for them looked genuine cases as well
Need to address this issue just NUTS!!

[Spudster]

Do they not run their food kiosks internally whereas we outsource?
Someone always brings this up. A Pittodrie pie is £2.50, their average crowd is 15,000 over 19 games so that's 285,000 bums on seats throughout the season. Every fan would have to consume about 10 pies every single game to get to the figures we are talking about :faf:

[J-C]

Cheers for all the financial BS but does anyone have some rumours re transfers, maybe a new thread for all the business whizz kids.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Cheers for all the financial BS but does anyone have some rumours re transfers, maybe a new thread for all the business whizz kids.

The only rumour is that there's no rumours .. this is just a thread full of folk saying who they would like and who is out of contract with no actual links to Hibs whatsoever, just the same as every summer transfer window :greengrin

Maybe if Hibs paid a bit more attention to the whizz kids we could actually afford to buy some of them.

[Caversham Green]

Do they not run their food kiosks internally whereas we outsource? Also has anyone actually worked out where AFC are going to get £50M for their new ground? Bearing in mind Pittodrie is currently worth less than £10M (location and flats not working for housebuilders just now.

They do - that and merchandise will account for some of the commercial income but I can't see how it would reach nearly £5m. Hearts do likewise and their commercial income was £2,888k - that's with higher gate receipts so you'd expect catering to be higher too. Also Hearts sponsorship was £782k vs £2,008k for the sheep, and broadcasting was £82k vs £2,855k.

Anyway, apologies for taking the thread off track - I'll say no more on the subject on this thread.

[erin go bragh]

PAPER TALK: Paul Coutts and Patrick Bauer the latest names to be linked with Hibs. Highly unlikely to be anything more than just rumours though. Better than finance guff 😁

[hibbydad]

I think it is important to discuss the commercial activity as it is an important way to bring much needed revenue into the club

[04Sauzee]

PAPER TALK: Paul Coutts and Patrick Bauer the latest names to be linked with Hibs. Highly unlikely to be anything more than just rumours though. Better than finance guff 😁

Patrick Bauer has defo been discounted

[FifeHibs]

Would it be benifical to open up another thread " Proposed Commercial Ideas" that can be passed onto the board by the fans representative?

[BoomtownHibees]

Patrick Bauer has defo been discounted

Sounds positive. So we will be able to afford him now?

[Lago]

They do - that and merchandise will account for some of the commercial income but I can't see how it would reach nearly £5m. Hearts do likewise and their commercial income was £2,888k - that's with higher gate receipts so you'd expect catering to be higher too. Also Hearts sponsorship was £782k vs £2,008k for the sheep, and broadcasting was £82k vs £2,855k.

Anyway, apologies for taking the thread off track - I'll say no more on the subject on this thread.

Don't know about others but I enjoyed it, to me in simplistic terms, Aberdeen appear just to be a better managed & more forward looking club than Hibs at this time. Hopefully that will change.

[marinello59]

Don't know about others but I enjoyed it, to me in simplistic terms, Aberdeen appear just to be a better managed & more forward looking club than Hibs at this time. Hopefully that will change.

Aberdeen have just got lucky after getting donations from a few wealthy fans who are cashing out of the oil industry.

[04Sauzee]

Sounds positive. So we will be able to afford him now?

I see what you did there

[Oscar T Grouch]

Aberdeen might have oil money and a captive market. But we operate in one of the worlds biggest tourist cities for its size, never mind Scotland's. Its a market both Hibs and Hearts seem singularly inept at tapping into. How many folk on this forum would at least consider going to watch a game if they were abroad … I know I would.

I am not sure the make up of the tourists in Edinburgh is conducive to being tapped. Most tourists come from England (40%) I doubt they would be looking for a Scottish football experience or memorabilia. A further 22% come from other parts of the UK. The overseas visitors (38%) are mostly from the USA, not huge football fans in general, the rest are mainly from the larger European countries with the rest of the world and Canada both equating to 1% of tourists each. I have never spoken to a tourist in Edinburgh who has interest in Scottish football. while some advertising may help, the fact the height of the tourist season is when football here is shut down and when football starts the tickets everyone is looking for are fringe and festival tickets it may be a case of pissing into the wind and or wasting revenue trying to tap a market that doesn't want to see Hibs or Hearts playing a league cup match. I am sure there are tourist who would be interested in football, but I am sure they would test the water before coming here.

[staunchhibby]

Thought this was a transfer thread

[hfc rd]

BBC gossip column:

Hibs are interested in making a move for 27-year-old Tranmere Rovers striker Connor Jennings. (Daily Star - print edition)

[California-Hibs]

BBC gossip column:

Hibs are interested in making a move for 27-year-old Tranmere Rovers striker Connor Jennings. (Daily Star - print edition)

His strike rate looks pretty decent

[JimBHibees]

His strike rate looks pretty decent

Scored the winner in the Tranmere Newport League 2 play off.

[The 90+2]

Scored the winner in the Tranmere Newport League 2 play off.

Which probably means his agent is getting the players name out there .

[Stuart93]

Curtis Main unveiled at Dons

[Centre Hawf]

Curtis Main unveiled at Dons

Good. He’s hopeless.

[brog]

Aberdeen break down their turnover (they have to because they're a PLC) but Hibs don't.

Aberdeen's turnover for 2017-18 was (in 000s):

Gate receipts - £4,801
Sponsorship ans advertising-£2,008
Broadcasting rights - £2,855
Commercial - £4,875
UEFA solidarity and prize money - £841
Other operating revenue - £35
Total £15,415.

Hibs total turnover was £9,556.

I would expect gate receipts to be similar for both clubs and the other categories to possibly be slightly higher for Aberdeen as they were an established top-flight club and Hibs hadn't been for the previous three years, but the stand out figure for me is 'commercial'. Given it's separate from sponsorship and advertising I'm not sure what it represents, but it's their single biggest source of income.

Sorry to keep this going but I just saw. IIRC a previous poster suggested their large donations were included under 'commercial. Makes some kind of sense. Interesting, no transfer income.

[hfc rd]

Curtis Main unveiled at Dons


He was very good in his first 6 months at Well but seemed to struggle last season.

[SHODAN]

Curtis Main unveiled at Dons

I guess Aberdeen will be putting in his application for "squad member somehow immune to yellow cards" now Shinnie has left.

[Greenbeard]

BBC gossip column:

Hibs are interested in making a move for 27-year-old Tranmere Rovers striker Connor Jennings. (Daily Star - print edition)
Echo ...echo.....echo......from 5.5 hours ago. Too much P15h in between about Sheep commerce.

[BILLYHIBS]

For anyone that is bored there is a Spice Girls Pun Fest over on the PM Board :greengrin

[hfc rd]

Echo ...echo.....echo......from 5.5 hours ago. Too much P15h in between about Sheep commerce.


Thought I would try and get the thread back on track.

Got a little excited when I seen it had a couple of new pages added but pretty much all of it filled with Aberdeen finances!

[Winston Ingram]

Aberdeen break down their turnover (they have to because they're a PLC) but Hibs don't.

Aberdeen's turnover for 2017-18 was (in 000s):

Gate receipts - £4,801
Sponsorship ans advertising-£2,008
Broadcasting rights - £2,855
Commercial - £4,875
UEFA solidarity and prize money - £841
Other operating revenue - £35
Total £15,415.

Hibs total turnover was £9,556.

I would expect gate receipts to be similar for both clubs and the other categories to possibly be slightly higher for Aberdeen as they were an established top-flight club and Hibs hadn't been for the previous three years, but the stand out figure for me is 'commercial'. Given it's separate from sponsorship and advertising I'm not sure what it represents, but it's their single biggest source of income.

Our gate receipts will be bigger as we average nearly 3000 more .

Those commercial stats are huge. They’re raking in nearly £7m for non-football activities outside broadcasting.

[Greenbeard]

Thought I would try and get the thread back on track.

Got a little excited when I seen it had a couple of new pages added but pretty much all of it filled with Aberdeen finances!
:aok: Anyone ITK about Connor Jennings, i.e. seen the guy play, not just stats?

[04Sauzee]

:aok: Anyone ITK about Connor Jennings, i.e. seen the guy play, not just stats?

I have been told hibs aren't interested

[Unseen work]

Curtis Main will actually do a job and be a useful addition for Aberdeen I think. He won’t score many but he will fit into a McInnes side well.

Wouldn’t have him at hibs but some players suit certain clubs.

Seem quite a few teams are trying hard to get their business done easy this season. Us, Aberdeen and Motherwell have already signed a few.

[Northernhibee]

For anyone that is bored there is a Spice Girls Pun Fest over on the PM Board :greengrin
Mods, please merge. This is a case where 2 become 1 for sure.

[Unseen work]

I have been told hibs aren't interested

Reliable source? Seems a few players we have been linked with in the press is a load of nonsense.

[Robbo6-2]

Jennings still has a year left on his contract.

Would be surprised if we paid money for him.

[04Sauzee]

Reliable source? Seems a few players we have been linked with in the press is a load of nonsense.

Very reliable, im not one of those ITK posters, I found out more by accident but the person who told me would 100% know

[Franck Stanton]

He was very good in his first 6 months at Well but seemed to struggle last season.

Mmmmmm sounds very similar to a certain player on our books.....

[Smartie]

Mods, please merge. This is a case where 2 become 1 for sure.

Aye, but is that what you really REALLY want?

[Lago]

Aberdeen have just got lucky after getting donations from a few wealthy fans who are cashing out of the oil industry.
If true that would be a one of hit, not sure it's the whole answer.

[sambajustice]

Apparently that boy from Barnsley who just signed for Aberdeen is a 5hit Adam hammill. According to my Barnsley supporting mate.

[04Sauzee]

Apparently that boy from Barnsley who just signed for Aberdeen is a 5hit Adam hammill. According to my Barnsley supporting mate.

Not a glowing report from the Barnsley fans

http://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/official-site-ryan-hedges-joins-aberdeen.280218/#post-2298900

[Robbo6-2]

Not a glowing report from the Barnsley fans

http://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/official-site-ryan-hedges-joins-aberdeen.280218/#post-2298900

The Barnsley fans weren't exactly glowing in there reference of Stevie Mallan and look how well hes done.

Doesn't mean anything.

[Paloschi]

Lewis MacLeod I am hearing. Free to leave Brentford, fits our profile and Heckingbottom wanted him at Leeds.

[Heisenberg]

Lewis MacLeod I am hearing. Free to leave Brentford, fits our profile and Heckingbottom wanted him at Leeds.

Would be a massive risk considering his injury record.

[Paloschi]

The Barnsley fans weren't exactly glowing in there reference of Stevie Mallan and look how well hes done.

Doesn't mean anything.

Mallan splits Hibs fans down the middle I'd say.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Lewis MacLeod I am hearing. Free to leave Brentford, fits our profile and Heckingbottom wanted him at Leeds.

People in the game spoke about him becoming the next big thing when he went south.

Such a shame about the injuries. I'd take the gamble if he was available to us

[Unseen work]

Macleod would be a good signing if the deal was right and we were confident he was over his injuries.

Signed too many players lately that we can’t rely on due to injuries.

Be interesting to see where he would fit in a midfield that already has Allan and Mallan as he is also more attacking minded.

[SteveHFC]

Lewis MacLeod I am hearing. Free to leave Brentford, fits our profile and Heckingbottom wanted him at Leeds.

A midfield of Mallan, Allan, Horgan, Boyle, Slivka and Macleod :hyper

[Del Boy]

Jordon Forster wanted by McPake at Dundee

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Jordon Forster wanted by McPake at Dundee

He could do alot worse. Rated Jordon when he was here.

[Hibernian32]

A midfield of Mallan, Allan, Horgan, Boyle, Slivka and Macleod :hyper

Need someone a bit more harder than sliv for that midfield mate even mcegough instead eh sliv and we'd be far to tackle shy

[The 90+2]

For anyone that is bored there is a Spice Girls Pun Fest over on the PM Board :greengrin

Someone has to say they want to be there?

[CMurdoch]

Not a glowing report from the Barnsley fans

http://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/official-site-ryan-hedges-joins-aberdeen.280218/#post-2298900

Yeah, would have the fear if we had signed him.
Conversely, they rate Jackson although there is a hint he is not the best on the ball.
I think he will do well which will take the pressure of Daz & Hanlon.

[CorrieHibs]

McLeod is going to QPR.

[BILLYHIBS]

Someone has to say they want to be there?

Stop. Do it. Move over. Say you’ll be there. If you want to have some fun. Goodbye! :greengrin

[brog]

Mallan splits Hibs fans down the middle I'd say.

He was voted POTY by Hibs fans. I think there's a small but vociferous group who constantly criticise SM & get far too much attention as a result.

[04Sauzee]

Heard the bryson story again today. Didn't think he would be a Heckingbottom type of signing

[J-C]

A midfield of Mallan, Allan, Horgan, Boyle, Slivka and Macleod :hyper

Midfield 6, you going for the famous Levein 4-6-0

[JimBHibees]

Heard the bryson story again today. Didn't think he would be a Heckingbottom type of signing

They type of player we need but query would be legs at this age but played at a higher level last season ok.

[Heisenberg]

Marciano wants to move to a “bigger club”

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-ofir-marciano-tells-israeli-media-he-wants-to-move-to-bigger-club-1-4942284

[SHODAN]

Marciano wants to move to a “bigger club”

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-ofir-marciano-tells-israeli-media-he-wants-to-move-to-bigger-club-1-4942284

That'll be him away then.

[Last Minute]

That's him hinting to lennon come and get me.

[superfurryhibby]

Marciano wants to move to a “bigger club”

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-ofir-marciano-tells-israeli-media-he-wants-to-move-to-bigger-club-1-4942284

I suppose that was always his intention and fair play, why wouldn’t he.

Good keeper who upped his game during the last half of the season. Looking at the positives, we’re going to get a share of a fee and it enhances our reputation as a place where players can develop 5heir career. I just hope he heads south and not west.

[GloryGlory]

Marciano wants to move to a “bigger club”

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-ofir-marciano-tells-israeli-media-he-wants-to-move-to-bigger-club-1-4942284

It's a something and nothing story. Reading between the lines, he wouldn't say no if the chance came to move to a "bigger" club, but he's also happy at ER. Ifs, buts and maybes...

[MWHIBBIES]

We'll get a good fee for him and should be able to get a good replacement. Years since we've had a poor goalie now.

[banchoryhibs]

I think that when he arrived it was accepted that we would help develop him and share the transfer profit with his previous club.
Good luck to him, he's been good for us and we should make a few bob on his move

[BlackSheep]

This is gonna turn into another .Net fact that he is leaving, lets leave off on the good luck messages until a player actually leaves!

[Fuzzywuzzy]

https://www.transfermarkt.com/ofir-marciano/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/112008/wettbewerb/SC1/saison/2018

[Peevemor]

Marciano wants to move to a “bigger club”

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-ofir-marciano-tells-israeli-media-he-wants-to-move-to-bigger-club-1-4942284

As I posted on the PM board, I don't think the EEN should base headlines on online translators - it's all over the shop (same with the online French translation).

He could well be saying that he wants to stay and continue to improve, and that he enjoys playing against the bigger teams.

[Stokesy's on fire]

We'll get a good fee for him and should be able to get a good replacement. Years since we've had a poor goalie now.

If rocky does move on we should try to take Bogdan back on as perm keeper

[Betty Boop]

That's him hinting to lennon come and get me.


:agree:

[500miles]

It took me until about April to forgive him for the St Johnstone red card!

However, if he's after a move, I hope we get a satisfactory deal sorted out, get him a decent move and Bogdan on a permanent deal.

[My_Wife_Camille]

We'll get a good fee for him and should be able to get a good replacement. Years since we've had a poor goalie now.
Would be gutted to see him go and would be surprised if we got someone as good but nothing lasts forever.

Totally agree it’s been years since our last poor keeper, about three years imo.

[SHODAN]

It took me until about April to forgive him for the St Johnstone red card!

However, if he's after a move, I hope we get a satisfactory deal sorted out, get him a decent move and Bogdan on a permanent deal.

Yup, that would be the best option. Get some money and a proven replacement in Bogdan in.

[Greenbeard]

Tuned in as best I could to whispered transfer chat in Starbucks on Leith Walk. Sounds like we are going for Dave Jzavu, whoever he is.

[HFC93]

Bogdan is a better keeper than Rocky. IMO.

Can see Lennon signing Bogdan at Celtic.

[scotia44]

Tuned in as best I could to whispered transfer chat in Starbucks on Leith Walk. Sounds like we are going for Dave Jzavu, whoever he is.

You been before to Starbucks Leith then:dunno:

[Billychaotic182]

If Rocky is off we should go for Liam Kelly

[Stuart93]

Bogdan is a better keeper than Rocky. IMO.

Can see Lennon signing Bogdan at Celtic.

He’s really no

[Oscar T Grouch]

If Rocky is off we should go for Liam Kelly

Kelly's already said he wants to go south

[Billychaotic182]

Kelly's already said he wants to go south

I'd still put some feelers out

[Hibee87]

Not sure if this is a .net rumour or not, but did we not only get Rocky for free/next to nothing on the basis there was a 50% split with his old club on any future transfer fee?

[HFC93]

He’s really no

I feel Bogdan was unlucky to get injured when he did and missed out on the Hecky bounce. Rocky's form was phenomenal at the end of the season.

Both great keepers.

[Big_Franck]

He was voted POTY by Hibs fans. I think there's a small but vociferous group who constantly criticise SM & get far too much attention as a result.

I don't think it's small at all. None of the ST holders I go to the games with, or meet up with after the games, rate him. Although this isn't the thread for this discussion again i'd say.

I'm disappointed Curtis Main didn't end up at Hearts as he's brutal. Can see the sheep being significantly weaker next season.

Did we not do a deal with Marciano's previous club where we got to sign him, but they got a huge percentage of any future fee? I'm sure that was the only way we could afford him at the time.

[Smartie]

Tuned in as best I could to whispered transfer chat in Starbucks on Leith Walk. Sounds like we are going for Dave Jzavu, whoever he is.

Were we not after him before?