Summer 2019 transfer thread

[Paisley Hibby]

Would anyone take Kenny Miller as a squad player?

Or why not Derek Riorden - he's 3 years younger than Miller. Or Ivan Sproule (a year younger than Miller) 😂

[J-C]

Peterborough United chairman has said on twitter that they had a bid today for Mark O'Harra from a Scottish Premier league team today. A hibs fan asked if it was us, their chairman didn't say anything but liked the tweet.

No idea who is in for him. No idea what kind of player O'hara is and no idea if their chairman is a chancer.

Just thought I'd share this pointless bit of info 😂


He was transfer listed at the end of the season, he signed for them on a free contract so maybe only a small fee or maybe for nowt, it could also be he hasn't settled down south, I'd take him.

[SMAXXA]

Or why not Derek Riorden - he's 3 years younger than Miller. Or Ivan Sproule (a year younger than Miller) 😂

Lol cause they wernt playing in the premier league last season or even in a professional league 😉

[Ozyhibby]

Depends on wages tbh, think he would be good with some of the younger boys, I wouldn't want him taking up a wage and stunting the develoomeif one of our younger guys

We have a coaching team pluse Gray, McGregor, Hanlon and Stevenson to help the young lads. We need to be signing younger players.


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[HibbyAndy]

Would anyone take Kenny Miller as a squad player?

No

[BigKev]

Jordan Foster being linked with a move to Dundee or Edinburgh City.

Be brilliant for City if they got him.

McPake probably knows him well from his time here so not a surprise he's looking at him.

[The 90+2]

Would anyone take Kenny Miller as a squad player?

Yes. Model pro runs himself into the ground, can see it.

[calumhibee1]

You can't afford much on 150k in NYC.

You can’t afford much in Manhattan no matter what you’re on. He’d be more than comfortable in one of the other 4 boroughs or just a short hop over the river to Hoboken or somewhere along those lines.

[SMAXXA]

You can’t afford much in Manhattan no matter what you’re on. He’d be more than comfortable in one of the other 4 boroughs or just a short hop over the river to Hoboken or somewhere along those lines.

He will have his accommodation provided and paid for wherever he is staying so won’t make a difference to him.

Wouldn’t surprise me if he had a living allowance also

[neil7908]

£250k? That probably wouldn’t make the top 20 of fees we’ve paid. Remember that pre Bosman we would regularly sign players for fees. Even in the past 5-10 years we’ll have paid more several times

I'd be interested to know who we've bought for more than £250k. I know the club don't usually disclose fees paid but I can't think of anyone apart from De La Cruz that would be above that based on info from the time.

[calumhibee1]

He will have his accommodation provided and paid for wherever he is staying so won’t make a difference to him.

Wouldn’t surprise me if he had a living allowance also

If that’s the case then he’d be fine. GMS looks like he’d eat dollar pizza slices for every meal anyway, he’d be minted.

[Torto7]

I'd be interested to know who we've bought for more than £250k. I know the club don't usually disclose fees paid but I can't think of anyone apart from De La Cruz that would be above that based on info from the time.

Pat McGinlay, Keith Wright, Darren Jackson. Maybe Paul Wright and Goram too.

[BigKev]

I'd be interested to know who we've bought for more than £250k. I know the club don't usually disclose fees paid but I can't think of anyone apart from De La Cruz that would be above that based on info from the time.

Stokes was rumoured to be 350k or so first time around.

[hfc rd]

How much did we pay Celtic to bring Derek Riordan back home in 2008?

[Paisley Hibby]

Lol cause they wernt playing in the premier league last season or even in a professional league 😉

True - and actually I think Miller could do a job as a kind of strikers coach/mentor - the way Riorden did for - was it Simon Murray?

[Heisenberg]

Mark O’Hara is a good midfielder from what I can remember. Good energy box to box and scored a couple of goals. Exactly what we were missing in midfield last season.

[The_Horde]

Why was O'Hara loaned out to Lincoln?

[bingo70]

Why was O'Hara loaned out to Lincoln?

Don’t know but The Peterborough fans on twitter seem to think he should be kept on and are disappointed he is going.

If it is us that have bid for him then it’s pretty unprofessional of their owner to be liking tweets asking if it’s us. It’s great he’s so transparent for his own fans about his own club but I’m guessing we’d rather keep quiet about our signings until it’s signed and sealed.

For that reason I’m guessing it’s not us.

[offshorehibby]

Pat McGinlay, Keith Wright, Darren Jackson. Maybe Paul Wright and Goram too.

The we South American full back/wing back we had, his names gone, think we sold him to Villa, did he not cost a few bob.

[Tyler Durden]

I'd be interested to know who we've bought for more than £250k. I know the club don't usually disclose fees paid but I can't think of anyone apart from De La Cruz that would be above that based on info from the time.

Off the top of my head. Jackson, Wright, McGinlay, Kevin McAllister, Rougier, Martin McIntosh, Grant Brebner, Stokes, Riordan.

I’d be surprised if we hadn’t paid roughly £250k for Horgan or Mallan also. McGeouch would be valued at more than £250k in the deal for Scott Allan also but that is me speculating of course.

I’m sure other people can name many others.

[TelaStella]

The we South American full back/wing back we had, his names gone, think we sold him to Villa, did he not cost a few bob.

De la Cruz? Still our record fee paid. 800K I think.


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[bingo70]

De la Cruz? Still our record fee paid. 800K I think.


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Where’s Andy74 when you need him.

[sambajustice]

Pat McGinlay, Keith Wright, Darren Jackson. Maybe Paul Wright and Goram too.

I'm sure Brian Grant or Rab Shannon was about 250k

[CraigHibee]

How much did we pay Celtic to bring Derek Riordan back home in 2008?

was it not around £200k, sure that was he sum being banded about at the time

[Tyler Durden]

was it not around £200k, sure that was he sum being banded about at the time

£400k I think

[The 90+2]

The we South American full back/wing back we had, his names gone, think we sold him to Villa, did he not cost a few bob.

£700k De La Cruz. Orman cost £200k too.

[Torto7]

The we South American full back/wing back we had, his names gone, think we sold him to Villa, did he not cost a few bob.

Yeah that's De La Cruz. 750 000.

[Torto7]

I'm sure Brian Grant or Rab Shannon was about 250k

Yeah that seems to ring true. We paid fees for some amount of crap back then. David Hardie(LB) I think was six figures too. Shaun Dennis as well.

[Billy Whizz]

Where’s Andy74 when you need him.

Still goes to ER

[Gmack7]

Brian Hamilton was £275K which we got back from Hertz

[bingo70]

Still goes to ER

Can you get him back on here to tell people we never paid £700k for De La cruz please? 😉

[MyJo]

I'd be interested to know who we've bought for more than £250k. I know the club don't usually disclose fees paid but I can't think of anyone apart from De La Cruz that would be above that based on info from the time.

James F****** Collins. £400k I think was the figure being banded about at the time.

[Torto7]

Wasn't Alan Orman 300k or so?

[southsider]

£700k De La Cruz. Orman cost £200k too.

Was Keith Wright not £500,000 ?

[PatHead]

How much did we pay for Kamberi

[southsider]

Was Keith Wright not £500,000 ?

But he was a great player for the Hibs

[Centre Hawf]

James F****** Collins. £400k I think was the figure being banded about at the time.

I remember reading it was nearer the 200k mark then the club claimed there was a lot of performance clauses which I assume he was nowhere near completing.

[Cracker]

Wasn't Alan Orman 300k or so?

Think your correct , Pat McGinley cost £400,000 /£600.000 plus when he returned from Celtic if I remember correctly, I’m sure at the time he was hibs highest transfer into hibs but yet again could be the mind has all but gone 😁

[Hibee Mac]

How much did we pay for Kamberi

£150,000 was it not?

[McD]

Few clips of Christian Doidge :aok:

Yes I know it's YouTube :greengrin and the opposition he is up against before you rip me to shreds.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMNYNHmKt-4


:aok:

Scores a variety of types of goals, seems pretty proficient with his head. Also seems to be a striker who’s less fussed with the spectacular (although there is a few in there), and just gets the ball in the net.

Also so like the way he seems to have that goal scorer’s knack of instinctively knowing where to be at the right moment

[ThatDayInMay]

How much did we pay for Kamberi

£150,000.

[Greencore]

How much did we pay for Kamberi

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/florian-kamberi/profil/spieler/284020

[Michael]

I remember reading it was nearer the 200k mark then the club claimed there was a lot of performance clauses which I assume he was nowhere near completing.

200K was what was said when he signed...I think we only actually paid around 90K though. Probably, as you say, due to a lot of performances clauses that weren't met.

[Hibernian32]

:aok:

Scores a variety of types of goals, seems pretty proficient with his head. Also seems to be a striker who’s less fussed with the spectacular (although there is a few in there), and just gets the ball in the net.

Also so like the way he seems to have that goal scorer’s knack of instinctively knowing where to be at the right moment

He looks very good one on one with the keeper something we've missed tbh. Especially with Allan in midfield we are going to find our self's one on one more often this season.

This boy fills with confidence already staring down the keeper

[MacGruber]

The Tom James transfer has went from in talks to close to very close, to on the verge to on the precipice to done deal that is just a tiny bit not quite done yet - is there another step in the process before it's confirmed 😅

[Aldo]

The Tom James transfer has went from in talks to close to very close, to on the verge to on the precipice to done deal that is just a tiny bit not quite done yet - is there another step in the process before it's confirmed [emoji28]

All but nearly done and just about there just waiting for a few minor things to iron out and we will almost be there??

PS I’ll get ma coat!

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[McD]

Think your correct , Pat McGinley cost £400,000 /£600.000 plus when he returned from Celtic if I remember correctly, I’m sure at the time he was hibs highest transfer into hibs but yet again could be the mind has all but gone 😁


Im not sure about the highest transfer fee, I do seem to remember us paying less for McGinley to get him back from Celtic than what they had paid us

[bigswissstriker]

Tom James 3 year deal

[Aldo]

Tom James 3 year deal

This official??


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[hfc rd]

Tom James 3 year deal


Source?

[Stuart93]

The guy was at the testimonial dinner last night of course he’s signing

[bigswissstriker]

Source?

Bullseye BBQ chipotle

[Tyler Durden]

Im not sure about the highest transfer fee, I do seem to remember us paying less for McGinley to get him back from Celtic than what they had paid us

Think they paid £625k and we got him back for £400k, despite the fact he was their top scorer in his season there. They were hopeless back then of course

[bigswissstriker]

Na , in all seriousness a mate has said it’s a 3 year deal

[Iain G]

Think your correct , Pat McGinley cost £400,000 /£600.000 plus when he returned from Celtic if I remember correctly, I’m sure at the time he was hibs highest transfer into hibs but yet again could be the mind has all but gone 😁

I seem to recall about £425,000 to buy him back, less than we sold him for,

[Fergus52]

Pretty sure we paid decent fees for Horgan, mallan and kamberi last year.

Was there not an interview recently with Dempster where she said we'd paid nearly a million in transfer fees over the last 12 months?

[CallumLaidlaw]

Paid a good fee for Alan O’Brien too I recall [emoji85]


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[cmcd]

De la Cruz? Still our record fee paid. 800K I think.


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750k

[BoltonHibee]

I think he joined when they were really struggling and morale was low. Must be a Hibs/Bolton fan on here who can give us an assessment of his time there.

Struggles with his hold up play with back to goal , not quick , will score a few but I think he will struggle with the physicality up in Scotland


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[S4uzee]

Struggles with his hold up play with back to goal , not quick , will score a few but I think he will struggle with the physicality up in Scotland


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Exactly what we need ....

[Nicho87]

Struggles with his hold up play with back to goal , not quick , will score a few but I think he will struggle with the physicality up in Scotland


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Is it Peter Kay we’re signing

[whereswallace?]

Struggles with his hold up play with back to goal , not quick , will score a few but I think he will struggle with the physicality up in Scotland


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Iv never seen the guy play, but a member of our coaching staff was saying last night that he will be very suited to the game up here.

[Flyman]

Struggles with his hold up play with back to goal , not quick , will score a few but I think he will struggle with the physicality up in Scotland


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Can’t see how someone who played in the Welsh leagues would have trouble with the physicality of Scottish football

[The_Horde]

Can’t see how someone who played in the Welsh leagues would have trouble with the physicality of Scottish football

Lads just shared his opinion. Just because it doesn't look like positive information doesn't mean its untrue.

Only time will tell if he's right.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Can’t see how someone who played in the Welsh leagues would have trouble with the physicality of Scottish football

Like Owain Tudor Jones? ;)

[The_Horde]

Like Owain Tudor Jones? ;)

To be fair to that huddy, he's since admitted his legs were gone. (His words, btw)

[sean04]

Struggles with his hold up play with back to goal , not quick , will score a few but I think he will struggle with the physicality up in Scotland


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If he comes alive in the box and scores goals then Im happy. With Boyle Horgan and Allan creating chances all wee need a some1 to stick it in the net

[The 90+2]

Like Owain Tudor Jones? ;)

He was good in Scottish football before some idiot decided to sign him and the medical went through. Never happen these days.

[Unseen work]

Can see us getting O’Hara done relatively quick.

As I previously said he is exactly the type we need in the middle of the park and that Heckingbottom likes.

Big, athletic, energetic, box to box midfielder who chips in with a decent amount of goals.

Was actually surprised to see Peterborough allow him to leave on loan as he played a lot and scored 4 goals from centre mid in the first half of the season. Loan move to Lincoln was also a success where he played every week and was a fans favourite.

Mates with Allan and Mallan which is a bit ironic as they would most likely be the 3 in midfield together, albeit made a bit light defensively. However I think the amount Mallan learned defensively in a short space of time and will continue to learn, O’Hara’s energy and how organised we will be would make us get off with it.

He would be one that certainly plays for the shirt and become a fans favourite here.

A midfield of

..............Mallan.....O’Hara........

Boyle.............Allan.............Horgan/Newell...

Certainly has plenty of energy and ability. Also a lot of ball carriers who can get us up the pitch.


Get James, Doidge and another couple in and we are looking good.
Im very excited for the season coming :flag:

[BoltonHibee]

If he comes alive in the box and scores goals then Im happy. With Boyle Horgan and Allan creating chances all wee need a some1 to stick it in the net

I agree with you, and that’s possible. The way he was deployed at Bolton showed his weaknesses for sure. I hope he’s not being signed as a 1 up top.


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[DetroitHibs]

I agree with you, and that’s possible. The way he was deployed at Bolton showed his weaknesses for sure. I hope he’s not being signed as a 1 up top.


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The type of scenario Jase would thrive under.

[Hibernian32]

I'm I the only one who thinks we need 2 CDMs? Milligan gone and Bartley gone, you could even say Omeonga was a more defensively minded midfielder.

We need a tackler and leader in that midfield. I feel hecky is only going to get 1 CDM leaving us to tippy tappy in midfield. He gets injured its back to the same as last season not a soul in that midfield know how to challenge for a ball.

[The_Horde]

I'm I the only one who thinks we need 2 CDMs? Milligan gone and Bartley gone, you could even say Omeonga was a more defensively minded midfielder.

We need a tackler and leader in that midfield. I feel hecky is only going to get 1 CDM leaving us to tippy tappy in midfield. He gets injured its back to the same as last season not a soul in that midfield know how to challenge for a ball.

He's had Jackson play DM before. Chamone

[Hibernian32]

He's had Jackson play DM before. Chamone

I hear what your saying but that's not his most natural position is it? Any chance you know how many games he has played there?

[DetroitHibs]

I wonder if Lewis could revert back to midfield and fill the DM position.

[BILLYHIBS]

I wonder if Lewis could revert back to midfield and fill the DM position.

Rubbish!

Hes a Centre Half!

Well it worked at Ibroke. :greengrin

[MagicSwirlingShip]

He's had Jackson play DM before. Chamone

😂 enjoyed that one

[Smartie]

😂 enjoyed that one

I didn't.

It was really Bad.

[The Leith Dutch]

I'm I the only one who thinks we need 2 CDMs? Milligan gone and Bartley gone, you could even say Omeonga was a more defensively minded midfielder.

We need a tackler and leader in that midfield. I feel hecky is only going to get 1 CDM leaving us to tippy tappy in midfield. He gets injured its back to the same as last season not a soul in that midfield know how to challenge for a ball.

100% agree.
See a lot of teams in here where every player outside the defenders is in for goal threat.

Need a centre mid platform to run the middle of the park or we get over run.

[GloryGlory]

Is today the day for signings? :hyper:scarf:

[Hibernian32]

100% agree.
See a lot of teams in here where every player outside the defenders is in for goal threat.

Need a centre mid platform to run the middle of the park or we get over run.

:thumbsup:

[jacomo]

I'm I the only one who thinks we need 2 CDMs? Milligan gone and Bartley gone, you could even say Omeonga was a more defensively minded midfielder.

We need a tackler and leader in that midfield. I feel hecky is only going to get 1 CDM leaving us to tippy tappy in midfield. He gets injured its back to the same as last season not a soul in that midfield know how to challenge for a ball.


Sean Mackie is another one but I agree - we look light in central midfield right now.

If Omeonga doesn’t return there are big shoes to fill.

[Hibernian32]

Sean Mackie is another one but I agree - we look light in central midfield right now.

If Omeonga doesn’t return there are big shoes to fill.

Glad you agree mate but that's you and another poster mention 2 players who would play that position but it's not there most natural is it? A top 4 side can't rely a LB cover to fit in CDM or a CB. Mackie could slot in there and be the next big thing as far as I'm aware he's a left sided defender / wingback.

Have you seen him play this role at youth level?

[SMAXXA]

Glad you agree mate but that's you and another poster mention 2 players who would play that position but it's not there most natural is it? A top 4 side can't rely a LB cover to fit in CDM or a CB. Mackie could slot in there and be the next big thing as far as I'm aware he's a left sided defender / wingback.

Have you seen him play this role at youth level?

Didn’t shinnie do it for Aberdeen sure he was a full back converted into midfielder

[sorrow sorrow]

Doidge-Done

[Franck Stanton]

Doidge-Done

And you know - how ?

[BrockBom]

Doidge-Done

This isn't officially confirmed yet, is it?

[Hibernian32]

Didn’t shinnie do it for Aberdeen sure he was a full back converted into midfielder

Im sure your right he did. And I have no issue if Sean was to move to that position but currently we have no 0 CDM we a have CB we've never seen play possibly slot in and a very young LB who can't get in the side?. It's very early in the window but I hope hecky isn't just going to get one and rely on mackie and Jackson for me that is no where near good enough.

[Brightside]

Glad you agree mate but that's you and another poster mention 2 players who would play that position but it's not there most natural is it? A top 4 side can't rely a LB cover to fit in CDM or a CB. Mackie could slot in there and be the next big thing as far as I'm aware he's a left sided defender / wingback.

Have you seen him play this role at youth level?

How many games did Bartley play last season? A handful? Jackson will be used in CDM.

[GloryGlory]

This isn't officially confirmed yet, is it?

Hibs PR department's mantra: Yesterday's news tomorrow! :greengrin

[calumhibee1]

How many games did Bartley play last season? A handful? Jackson will be used in CDM.

Based on nothing as I’ve never seen the guy play, I’d be happy with him playing that position purely because he’s 6ft2. Would be good to have a bit of size in there.

[easty]

How many games did Bartley play last season? A handful? Jackson will be used in CDM.

Has Adam Jackson ever played in midfield? He's a centre half.

[Speedway]

Doidge-Done

Another ex-Celtic player joins the ranks.

[SHODAN]

Another ex-Celtic player joins the ranks.

I see what you did there.

[sambajustice]

Has Adam Jackson ever played in midfield? He's a centre half.

If Jackson is the guy from Barnsley I have it on good authority that Hecky played him quite a bit in DM role.

This could be like the 2nd coming of Matty Jack!

[Billychaotic182]

Can see us getting O’Hara done relatively quick.

As I previously said he is exactly the type we need in the middle of the park and that Heckingbottom likes.

Big, athletic, energetic, box to box midfielder who chips in with a decent amount of goals.

Was actually surprised to see Peterborough allow him to leave on loan as he played a lot and scored 4 goals from centre mid in the first half of the season. Loan move to Lincoln was also a success where he played every week and was a fans favourite.

Mates with Allan and Mallan which is a bit ironic as they would most likely be the 3 in midfield together, albeit made a bit light defensively. However I think the amount Mallan learned defensively in a short space of time and will continue to learn, O’Hara’s energy and how organised we will be would make us get off with it.

He would be one that certainly plays for the shirt and become a fans favourite here.

A midfield of

..............Mallan.....O’Hara........

Boyle.............Allan.............Horgan/Newell...

Certainly has plenty of energy and ability. Also a lot of ball carriers who can get us up the pitch.


Get James, Doidge and another couple in and we are looking good.
Im very excited for the season coming :flag:

Where is it we are linked With Mark O'Hara?

[SHODAN]

O'Hara is an AM (another one?) and Jackson is a CB only according to FM.

[Billychaotic182]

O'Hara is an AM (another one?) and Jackson is a CB only according to FM.

He is a Jack of all trades if I remember, at killie he was a right back at Dundee he was a big number 10, the nickname the Scottish Yaya Toure was given to him haha

[GloryGlory]

Where is it we are linked With Mark O'Hara?

The Peterborough chairman tweeted about an "SPL" club putting in a bid for him and sudden;ly 2+2=5. :greengrin

[Brightside]

Has Adam Jackson ever played in midfield? He's a centre half.

No details but I'm sure it was mentioned during the signing. I also can see us moving much more to 352. With 4 fit good CHs and a tonne of options we may well move away from out and out CDM.

[Heisenberg]

SSN journo saying Doidge and James will be completed in the next 24 hours.

[ElginHibbie]

#Hibernian (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hibernian?src=hashtag_click) expected to complete the double signing of #Yeovil (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Yeovil?src=hashtag_click)’s Tom James and #ForestGreen (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ForestGreen?src=hashtag_click) striker Christian Doidge in next 24 hours. #FGRFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/FGRFC?src=hashtag_click) #YTFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/YTFC?src=hashtag_click) #Hibs (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hibs?src=hashtag_click)

From some Sky guy on Twitter

[sorrow sorrow]

Another ex-Celtic player joins the ranks.
Clever

[sorrow sorrow]

Another ex-Celtic player joins the ranks.
Clever

[LancashireHibby]

Saw Doidge on loan at Bolton for the first half of last season and he wasn’t particularly good in all honesty, albeit he was only as bad as the rest of the team. He certainly had a decent record when he went back to Forest Green after Christmas, but I think it helped that plenty of chances were being created for him rather than proving to be a particularly commanding figure or anything like that. Big money by our standards if the suggested £300k is correct.

[Billychaotic182]

Saw Doidge on loan at Bolton for the first half of last season and he wasn’t particularly good in all honesty, albeit he was only as bad as the rest of the team. He certainly had a decent record when he went back to Forest Green after Christmas, but I think it helped that plenty of chances were being created for him rather than proving to be a particularly commanding figure or anything like that. Big money by our standards if the suggested £300k is correct.

Hopefully not another James Collins scenario, hope we dont expect 30 goals a season because we paid for him.

[The_Horde]

Hopefully not another James Collins scenario, hope we dont expect 30 goals a season because we paid for him.

It's only a small figure, like losing out on a shirt sponsor for a season..

[J-C]

O'Hara is an AM (another one?) and Jackson is a CB only according to FM.


Jeez don't use FM to suss any players positions, wages, how good they are, there's mistakes a plenty in that game. It still has Fraser Murray as a left footer and Innes Murray as a right wing (CM/AM) and we all know Boyle can play WB but not in FM.

[Iain G]

#Hibernian (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hibernian?src=hashtag_click) expected to complete the double signing of #Yeovil (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Yeovil?src=hashtag_click)’s Tom James and #ForestGreen (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ForestGreen?src=hashtag_click) striker Christian Doidge in next 24 hours. #FGRFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/FGRFC?src=hashtag_click) #YTFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/YTFC?src=hashtag_click) #Hibs (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hibs?src=hashtag_click)

From some Sky guy on Twitter

We do seem to be on top of our transfer activity this year if this is true.

Still want another forward, cm and a maybe winger? And it depends what happens with the goalie situation.

So that's McNulty, Omeonga, Barker and Bogdan :-)

[J-C]

No details but I'm sure it was mentioned during the signing. I also can see us moving much more to 352. With 4 fit good CHs and a tonne of options we may well move away from out and out CDM.


What happens to Boyle, Horgan and Newell in a 3-5-2, will they all be on the bench?

[hfc rd]

We do seem to be on top of our transfer activity this year if this is true.

Still want another forward, cm and a maybe winger? And it depends what happens with the goalie situation.

So that's McNulty, Omeonga, Barker and Bogdan :-)


We need a defensive midfielder.

[Iain G]

What happens to Boyle, Horgan and Newell in a 3-5-2, will they all be on the bench?

I assume Newell can play in a midfield three on the left? It's horses for courses and we need to be flexible in our options.

[The_Horde]

What happens to Boyle, Horgan and Newell in a 3-5-2, will they all be on the bench?

The same way we managed to fit Boyle, McGinn, Allan, Mcgeouch, Kamberi and Maclaren into a 3-5-2 in season 17/18?

[Iain G]

We need a defensive midfielder.

That depends how we are going to play maybe?

[Since452]

Hopefully not another James Collins scenario, hope we dont expect 30 goals a season because we paid for him.

Yeah hopefully not. I can't help but think that if there wasn't so much pressure on Collins or expection from the fans because of the fee he might have been cut a bit more slack. There was a fair bit of hype around him signing if i remember. He's not the worst forward I've ever seen at Hibs. Vine was far worse.

[J-C]

I assume Newell can play in a midfield three on the left? It's horses for courses and we need to be flexible in our options.


I agree but I can't see us starting with that shape, I reckon it'll be 4-3-3/4-5-1 and against certain teams change to 3 at the back, we need to be flexible and adapt to different teams.

[CapitalGreen]

What happens to Boyle, Horgan and Newell in a 3-5-2, will they all be on the bench?

You’re imaging an ideal world in which every player is fit and available for selection. Taking the RWB position as an example, there were points last season in which all 3 of our first choice options for there were unavailable.

[Northernhibee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMNYNHmKt-4 - Doidge reminds me of Cummings. Not that big or strong or even quick but just seems to be in the right place at the right time for the vast majority of these goals. Couple of screamers but mostly takes advantage of a half yard of space.

[J-C]

The same way we managed to fit Boyle, McGinn, Allan, Mcgeouch, Kamberi and Maclaren into a 3-5-2 in season 17/18?


Boyle played WB due to Gray being injured, Lennon got lucky with that shape as it gave him the chance to play 2 up top and 3 in the middle. We'll have Gray and James as our WB's which leaves Boyle out the team in a 3-5-2.

[J-C]

You’re imaging an ideal world in which every player is fit and available for selection. Taking the RWB position as an example, there were points last season in which all 3 of our first choice options for there were unavailable.

As I said in the post above we will have to adapt from game to game, we seen 4-5-1 from Hecky last season but that me be due to the players he had to work with, as yet we have no clue as to how he is going to set us up.

[Hamish]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11792/11748641/hibernian-set-to-announce-tom-james-and-christian-doidge-signings

[Stevie Reid]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11792/11748641/hibernian-set-to-announce-tom-james-and-christian-doidge-signings

Nice :aok:

[04Sauzee]

No idea how physical the new boys are that we signing but it does appear we will have a bit more height in the team next season with Newell and Doidge. Which will hopefully help us defend and attack set plays better.

[Unseen work]

No idea how physical the new boys are that we signing but it does appear we will have a bit more height in the team next season with Newell and Doidge. Which will hopefully help us defend and attack set plays better.

From the clips Iv saw of Doidge he certainly wins a lot of headers whether it’s a ball played upto him, crosses or corners which is a massive bonus and something we’ve lacked. I can’t remember McNulty or Kamberi winning a header from a set piece?

250-300k is the rumour being touted which means he will come with a bit of pressure on his shoulders. Let’s hope he does the job.

Quite looking forward to see James play and where he fits in, noticed he can play defensive mid too.

[sean04]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMNYNHmKt-4 - Doidge reminds me of Cummings. Not that big or strong or even quick but just seems to be in the right place at the right time for the vast majority of these goals. Couple of screamers but mostly takes advantage of a half yard of space.

Finishes with both feet aswell

[MyJo]

Boyle played WB due to Gray being injured, Lennon got lucky with that shape as it gave him the chance to play 2 up top and 3 in the middle. We'll have Gray and James as our WB's which leaves Boyle out the team in a 3-5-2.

Depends on who we are playing and what their formation is.

3-5-2 against the old firm and you would have Gray or Jones and Stevenson in as wingbacks with a more defensive focus.

3-5-2 against a defensive team likely to sit in and try and counter-attack would give us scope to play Boyle, Newell or Horgan in those wide positions.

I also don't expect us to stick rigidly to a formation regardless of player availability and opposition.

The squad that is being built, with a few more key additions, appears to be more than capable of setting up in a variety of ways.

[IncredibleHibee]

Nice :aok:

Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!

[SteveHFC]

Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!

My thoughts exactly mate.

[J-C]

Depends on who we are playing and what their formation is.

3-5-2 against the old firm and you would have Gray or Jones and Stevenson in as wingbacks with a more defensive focus.

3-5-2 against a defensive team likely to sit in and try and counter-attack would give us scope to play Boyle, Newell or Horgan in those wide positions.

I also don't expect us to stick rigidly to a formation regardless of player availability and opposition.

The squad that is being built, with a few more key additions, appears to be more than capable of setting up in a variety of ways.

Going to be an interesting season, if we have versatile players who can play in various systems and positions, then I'm all for that.

[Aldo]

Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!

Put this into context

The yams paid Dundee a similar fee for Wighton who has scored 10 (yes 10) career goals.

Doidge has scored 90, albeit it some at lower levels.

I have a question.... where should we get our signings from?


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[Callum_62]

Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!

hard to judge I guess, although I think all were wanted at a higher level

[Torto7]

Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!

I've got the same doubts. The only thing I would say is that PH definitely had an eye for a player at Barnsley(who could step up) and I'm hoping this is the case here.

He'll get my support regardless and hopefully my doubts are wrong.

Plus Scott Allan's back along with Boyle and Porto. :aok:

[Smartie]

Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!

This is the way our manager works though. There's no point in appointing PH (who has a track record of finding and promoting talent from the English lower leagues) then telling him not to do that. Lennon liked players he knew through agents and players he knew from Celtic, that worked for him - he should be backed to work his way.

We need to give the players a chance - fair enough, criticise if it doesn't work. Many players have come with this sort of pedigree, done brilliantly in Scotland and we've all moaned that we should have picked them up.

Any signing comes with a risk that they won't make it.

[Lago]

It's only a small figure, like losing out on a shirt sponsor for a season..

Naughty, but funny. :agree:

[Since452]

Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!

That thought has crossed my mind too. It's harder than people think up here.

[Robbo6-2]

Lets be brutally honest, the standard in the videos is horrific. Its low end Scottish championship or Scottish League 1 level.

Gonna be a huge step up for the lad and seems a big fee to be paying for him.

[3pm]

Doidge looks handy in the YouTube video.

[GloryGlory]

Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!

Forest Green play in EFL 2, don't they, not Nat League 2?

[Heisenberg]

Hecky has been here for a few months now so should have a fair idea of the game. If he thinks these boys can handle it then I’ll fully support him.

[Stevie Reid]

Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-two/transferrekorde/wettbewerb/GB4

Louis Moult came from a non-league team was was superb for Motherwell - the flipside is you get players who arrive with big reputations who don't deliver. It's not an exact science.

I'm satisfied that we will have done our due diligence here - given what PH has said about the physicality of our league, and how it's refereed differently, I highly doubt that he would have sanctioned the transfers if he had any concerns about them performing at this level.

There are numerous variables that can affect how well a player performs, some of them completely beyond your control. All you can do is hope for the best, and - as you say - offer our full support.

[Stuart93]

Lets be brutally honest, the standard in the videos is horrific. Its low end Scottish championship or Scottish League 1 level.

Gonna be a huge step up for the lad and seems a big fee to be paying for him.

But judgement will be reserved until we see them play in a hibs top no?

People were calling for lower league gem seasons for ages. We’re potentially now doing that and people are still moaning. Strange

[sambajustice]

My only concern is we're not picking up a great deal of Scottish players. Like the previous poster more or less said, PH's bread and butter is English Lower leagues so no point in him not using those contacts. Hopefully he's using his knowledge to set up similar scouting network up here to pick up some of those Andy Robertson types... :greengrin

[NC1875]

Other teams pick players like Moult from the lower leagues in England and people moan we don’t do it.

We’re doing it now and people are still moaning.

[IncredibleHibee]

Put this into context

I have a question.... where should we get our signings from?


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That’s a fair point and as a few others have said Hecky does have a good track record of identifying and improving players. Just my nagging concerns of not signing guys proven at a higher level. but I suppose the otherside of the coin is that every player has to start somewhere.

[we are hibs]

This is the market we are in now. along with the rest of the Scottish sides outside of celtic and rangers. I would like to know what proven goalscorer is available within our budget who is playing at a higher Level than League 2 or similar level to the Scottish Premiership?

[Heisenberg]

That’s a fair point and as a few others have said Hecky does have a good track record of identifying and improving players. Just my nagging concerns of not signing guys proven at a higher level. but I suppose the otherside of the coin is that every player has to start somewhere.

We signed quite a few “proven” higher level players last season that turned out to be varying from average to atrocious. We had a boy with Champions League experience who couldn’t get in ahead of Lewy for example 😂

[500miles]

Worth pointing out that we picked up our captain from League 2, and big Marv spent a fair chunk of his career there.

[J-C]

My only concern is we're not picking up a great deal of Scottish players. Like the previous poster more or less said, PH's bread and butter is English Lower leagues so no point in him not using those contacts. Hopefully he's using his knowledge to set up similar scouting network up here to pick up some of those Andy Robertson types... :greengrin

Is there any Scottish players out there you'd want?, I think picking up British players is as good, similar game all over and will gel fairly quickly with the squad.

Also worth pointing out players like Sproule came from lower league, plus we've already signed 2 players from English championship football, which is a very decent level.

[IncredibleHibee]

Ones thing for sure. It’s great getting our signings in early. I’m very excited for the season ahead

[Steven79]

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-two/transferrekorde/wettbewerb/GB4

Louis Moult came from a non-league team was was superb for Motherwell - the flipside is you get players who arrive with big reputations who don't deliver. It's not an exact science.

I'm satisfied that we will have done our due diligence here - given what PH has said about the physicality of our league, and how it's refereed differently, I highly doubt that he would have sanctioned the transfers if he had any concerns about them performing at this level.

There are numerous variables that can affect how well a player performs, some of them completely beyond your control. All you can do is hope for the best, and - as you say - offer our full support.

Going by stats alone Christian Doidge is twice the player that Moult was when he signed for Motherwell.

[Since452]

The good thing about it is we have guys like Gray and McGregor who will make it clear in no uncertain terms what is expected of a player wearing a Hibs shirt.

[Paisley Hibby]

Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!

Unlike many other managers, Heckingbottom is now well placed to fully appreciate the comparative standards between England AND Scotland across these levels. And he's not going to risk building on his developing managerial career by making a basic mistake of over- or underrating anyone. He knows what he's doing.

[The_Horde]

Worth pointing out that we picked up our captain from League 2, and big Marv spent a fair chunk of his career there.

I see where you're going with this. And if we can get someone in up top who's as good for us as Dave is then brilliant.

Say what you want about Marv, he was a squad filler most of the time here (a bloody effective one tbf) and a fan favourite but I think people are maybe wanting us to pick up gems like SJM, Mcgeouch and Allan.. stand out star players to nurture for selling.

That's where I am anyway, I want us to be looking for players everywhere but we're really needing star quality to push us above mid table class.

[Robbo6-2]

But judgement will be reserved until we see them play in a hibs top no?

People were calling for lower league gem seasons for ages. We’re potentially now doing that and people are still moaning. Strange

Yes we will reserve judgement.

Nobody is moaning, i think as fans we are allowed to question things.

It was the same as when we signed Birgimina, folk jumping down your throat when you question a singing. Look how that turned out...

I havent seen him play live and fingers crossed hes the dogs and scores 20 goals next season. But looking at the footage there is a huge jump to what we are playing at, that's not saying he wont be able too. We are allowed to give an opinion.

[JimBHibees]

Looks like two exciting signings. Hope they do well. Good to get them in early.

[Gmack7]

All these early signings is going to totally ruin deadline day, Petrie!!!!

[neil7908]

Worth pointing out that we picked up our captain from League 2, and big Marv spent a fair chunk of his career there.

I have no issues picking players up from that level. It's the fee that makes me nervous. It's big money for us these days. I've never seen the guy play and he'll get my support but a bit of pressure given on him to come in and perform.

[Since452]

All these early signings is going to totally ruin deadline day, Petrie!!!!

If we don't have a deadline day signing this season I'll be furious. Didn't sign up for this!

[Unseen work]

Iv tried to stop being negative about players before they play.

Swanson
Nelom
Mavrias
Deivydas Matulevičius
Gauld
Darnell Johnson

Are only a few who I expected to come in and instantly improve us as they either had a lot of potential or played at a very high level.

[500miles]

I have no issues picking players up from that level. It's the fee that makes me nervous. It's big money for us these days. I've never seen the guy play and he'll get my support but a bit of pressure given on him to come in and perform.

True, but we'd have to pay an even more for the likes of Shankland, who has never been successful at a higher level.

[easty]

Iv tried to stop being negative about players before they play.

Swanson
Nelom
Mavrias
Deivydas Matulevičius
Gauld
Darnell Simpson

Are only a few who I expected to come in and instantly improve us as they either had a lot of potential or played at a very high level.




Who the **** is Darnell Simpson?

[My_Wife_Camille]

Other teams pick players like Moult from the lower leagues in England and people moan we don’t do it.

We’re doing it now and people are still moaning.
Is it the same people moaning about both things or is it maybe just that thousands of different people have thousands of different opinions on the thousands of different ways a football club does things?

[Torto7]

This is the market we are in now. along with the rest of the Scottish sides outside of celtic and rangers. I would like to know what proven goalscorer is available within our budget who is playing at a higher Level than League 2 or similar level to the Scottish Premiership?

We've signed players from a higher level in the last few windows so I'm not sure your point holds true. This is more PH using his knowledge which is fair enough as that's what he knows and he's the man in charge.

[04Sauzee]

If these guys come in we will have 4 bodies in with everyone of them on a 2 or 3 year deal. We still haven't got any loan players on and the loan market was a market Heckingbottom was looking to exploit. Think there will be a few tasty ones still to come

[Unseen work]

Who the **** is Darnell Simpson?


Shows my point.....I don’t even know his name!!’n Darnell Johnson is who I meant :greengrin

[HFC93]

Iv tried to stop being negative about players before they play.

Swanson
Nelom
Mavrias
Deivydas Matulevičius
Gauld
Darnell Johnson

Are only a few who I expected to come in and instantly improve us as they either had a lot of potential or played at a very high level.




You didn’t have big expectations for big Dave did you?

[easty]

Shows my point.....I don’t even know his name!!’n Darnell Johnson is who I meant :greengrin

I couldn't even work out who you meant, I'd forgot all about him!

[Torto7]

If these guys come in we will have 4 bodies in with everyone of them on a 2 or 3 year deal. We still haven't got any loan players on and the loan market was a market Heckingbottom was looking to exploit. Think there will be a few tasty ones still to come

I think this is a certainty he's been quoted as saying as much. As Well as the lower leagues he has ample knowledge of the u23 system in England. These types of players are usually available later in the window.

[Northern Hibby]

Love a lower league gem, but careful with too
many.

[Unseen work]

You didn’t have big expectations for big Dave did you?

To a certain extent yes, he was coming in as a big striker with 30 odd appearances for Lithuania. I thought he would prove handy and be similar to Holt.

I expected more than 1 goal in a cup from him.

My point is, people seem to get excited by foreign players with good background but we don’t know a lot about, League 1/2 players shouldn’t scare us because of their background.

[Heedersnvolleys]

Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!
Agree to an extent but there is a difference from taking a punt on a league 2 player that we get when their contract is up and paying a fee for a player which is seemingly in demand.

[hibbie02]

Unlike many other managers, Heckingbottom is now well placed to fully appreciate the comparative standards between England AND Scotland across these levels. And he's not going to risk building on his developing managerial career by making a basic mistake of over- or underrating anyone. He knows what he's doing.

I can see Hecky is behind nearly all the players we have signed or are apparently signing. These are players he has scouted and wanted in. So the question is, what is our much vaunted scouting and recruitment team doing?

[MyJo]

I can see Hecky is behind nearly all the players we have signed or are apparently signing. These are players he has scouted and wanted in. So the question is, what is our much vaunted scouting and recruitment team doing?

****** me.....this again, how many times does it need to be explained.

[theonlywayisup]

****** me.....this again, how many times does it need to be explained.

Not everyone is on Hibs.net 24/7.

Why not just answer the question?

[GloryGlory]

Not everyone is on Hibs.net 24/7.

Why not just answer the question?

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/transfer-news/people-signing-players-hibs-15849745

This help? :greengrin

[CapitalGreen]

I can see Hecky is behind nearly all the players we have signed or are apparently signing. These are players he has scouted and wanted in. So the question is, what is our much vaunted scouting and recruitment team doing?

The fact you have differentiated between scouting and recruitment in your post shows you already acknowledge there is more to their role than purely identifying players so I am confused as to why you ask what they are doing.

[Torto7]

I can see Hecky is behind nearly all the players we have signed or are apparently signing. These are players he has scouted and wanted in. So the question is, what is our much vaunted scouting and recruitment team doing?

Identifying guys like Omeonga? Mathie is a very useful guy to have at the club. He's got good contacts and a direct phone line to John Park.:greengrin

[madhatter]

I may be wrong but did quite a few of Aberdeen's players not come from league 1 and 2? Cosgrove and Logan were certainly from there or there abouts. The thought of a Matt Done and players like that coming in scare me but we can't think all end up like that. In fairness Filipe Morais clearly had talent but he failed so ultimately there is always risk involved. Morais made a bigger impact than Gauld so...

I know I'm going back quite a few years with Morais. Morais was an example because I'm sure Stevenson mentioned him in a recent interview saying he was unreal in training.

Recruit a player, not a name.

[blackpoolhibs]

How can anyone find it "crazy" that we are spending money on what the manager wants, what is crazy about the club backing the manager again? :confused:

[ancient hibee]

Was Jim Duffy the last manager to concentrate on players he knew from league he was familiar with:greengrin

[Since452]

There will be players he'd have earmarked for a while, when he was Leeds and out of work. These are lads he'll know very well. I'm happy to trust Heckys judgement.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Was Jim Duffy the last manager to concentrate on players he knew from league he was familiar with:greengrin

That's 10 minutes on the naughty step for you young man :wink:

At least Hecky didn't arrive in a helicopter :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

How can anyone find it "crazy" that we are spending money on what the manager wants, what is crazy about the club backing the manager again? :confused:

Since the not spending money argument has been removed it is now the league the player plays in. Lets be honest here the money swilling around league 2 would dwarf the majority of SPL teams budgets. Sounds like two interesting players. Wonder where the Doidge signing puts Flo or McNulty. He sounds like the sort of goalscorer we need.

[HoboHarry]

Since the not spending money argument has been removed it is now the league the player plays in. Lets be honest here the money swilling around league 2 would dwarf the majority of SPL teams budgets. Sounds like two interesting players. Wonder where the Doidge signing puts Flo or McNulty. He sounds like the sort of goalscorer we need.
I wonder if those complaining about paying big money (for us) to English lower league teams also complain when English teams try to lowball Scottish teams because the English think that generally speaking "Scottish fitba is s***e"?

[brog]

Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!

Doidge is a League 2 player, not National League. Darren M was playing for Arniston when he was the same age as Tom James is now. Let's give them a chance & our support. They'll be desperate to do well.

[J-C]

Mathie and his team scout the players, LD and Craig sign them but only after the head coach is happy with the said players, the head coach will also have a few players he knows from his previous roles at clubs, it's a mixture.

Kamberi, McLaren and Milligan are scouted players, whereas Bogdan and Efe are players known to Lennon.

[The 90+2]

Doidge is a League 2 player, not National League. Darren M was playing for Arniston when he was the same age as Tom James is now. Let's give them a chance & our support. They'll be desperate to do well.

I would argue he’s a higher level player as Bolton wanted to sign him. I’m happy with all the transfer dealings so far.

[ThatDayInMay]

I would argue he’s a higher level player as Bolton wanted to sign him. I’m happy with all the transfer dealings so far.

Couldn’t agree more with this. Doidge is a proven goalscorer. A lower league gem and will come to ER and score goals. He’s excellent in the air without being the traditional static target man. He’s very mobile, good with both feet and his movement off the ball is what impressed me the most from the clips I have seen. He works hard for the team and presses from the front. He’s the ‘penalty box striker’ we’ve been looking for.

As previously mentioned, a number of ‘hidden gems’ have been found in the lower regions of English football.

Louis Moult.
Sam Cosgrove.
Dwight Gayle.
Jamie Vardy.
Lewis Wing.
Ethan Pinnock.
Sam Clucas.
Ashley Williams.
Chris Smalling.
Peter Crouch.
Michail Antonio.
Yannick Bolasie.
Danny Ings.
Charlie Austin.
Troy Deeney.
Rickie Lambert.

By no means suggesting that the likes of Doidge can reach the heights of some of the players on that list. But all of those players were once given an opportunity and grasped it with both hands. No reason why Doidge can’t do the same.

Morelos was signed from the Veikkausliiga which is considered a lower standard than that of the Scottish Premiership. He didn’t turn out too bad.

[sambajustice]

Spoke to a mate who is well up on his welsh football. He's some sort of fans rep with the welsh FA.

Anyway, asked him about James and Doidge, said james is alright, blows hot and cold. He also said Doidge is destined for a higher level than he's at and would expect him to be in the welsh squads in the not too distant future.

Fingers crossed

[Tarrahib]

My thoughts exactly mate.


Naughty, but funny. :agree:


Spoke to a mate who is well up on his welsh football. He's some sort of fans rep with the welsh FA.

Anyway, asked him about James and Doidge, said james is alright, blows hot and cold. He also said Doidge is destined for a higher level than he's at and would expect him to be in the welsh squads in the not too distant future.

Fingers crossed
In Hecky we trust.

[hibbie02]

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/transfer-news/people-signing-players-hibs-15849745

This help? :greengrin

Eh, Naw! Doesn't answer my question. Is is purely coincidence that Hecky knows about all these guys from his time down South and these are the same guys Mathie and Co have identified? It sounds to me that Hecky does in fact have a wishlist and is getting who he wants.

[BoomtownHibees]

New signing incoming I reckon

[hibbie02]

Identifying guys like Omeonga? Mathie is a very useful guy to have at the club. He's got good contacts and a direct phone line to John Park.:greengrin

I know he is very useful and has unearthed some good players (mainly on loan) but we mainly seem to be connected with players Hecky knows this time around. For every Omeonga we find there are 4 or 5 duds we never see.

[04Sauzee]

New signing happening hibs twitter

[hibbie02]

****** me.....this again, how many times does it need to be explained.

Depends on now many times it has been explained and if I saw the "explanation".....

[SteveHFC]

Doidge confirmed.

[BoomtownHibees]

Doidge announced

[BigKev]

Funny how he's been announced before James who's been with us for a week.

Maybe something that needs to be settled with Yeovil before he's unveiled.

[we are hibs]

Tom James tomorrow apparently

[PatHead]

Funny how he's been announced before James who's been with us for a week.

Maybe something that needs to be settled with Yeovil before he's unveiled.

Probably Brexit or VAR at fault.

[GloryGlory]

Funny how he's been announced before James who's been with us for a week.

Maybe something that needs to be settled with Yeovil before he's unveiled.

Maybe it's a PR ploy - one at a time to maximise impact?

[Hibbyradge]

Another ex-Celtic player joins the ranks.

Whoosh :boo hoo:

[Bob Box Fish]

£350k for a failed basketball player .... :)

[Lago]

Probably Brexit or VAR at fault.


Has to be Westminster. :rolleyes:

[Brightside]

I know he is very useful and has unearthed some good players (mainly on loan) but we mainly seem to be connected with players Hecky knows this time around. For every Omeonga we find there are 4 or 5 duds we never see.

A decent coach will know about these players. And a decent recruitment team will know about these and have a list of about 30 others in the same position.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Doidge announced

He will be a relieved fella now the deals done.
Can get a steak bake now after training.

[Hibbyradge]

£350k for a failed basketball player .... :)

Ah, now I get it ...

[truehibernian]

My Celtic buddy tells me we want Lewis Morgan :aok:

[Hibbyradge]

I know he is very useful and has unearthed some good players (mainly on loan) but we mainly seem to be connected with players Hecky knows this time around. For every Omeonga we find there are 4 or 5 duds we never see.

"He has been tracked extensively by our recruitment team over a long period of time and is also well known to Head Coach Paul Heckingbottom, who was meticulous with his own background checks."

[Hermit Crab]

My Celtic buddy tells me we want Lewis Morgan :aok:


How reliable is you buddy?

[davhibby]

These two guys aren't just run of the mill League 2 nobody's that we're getting in on a free, both had concrete offers from the championship last summer so they must have something about them

[truehibernian]

How reliable is you buddy?

He was right about Hendo and McLaren way before they happened HC so I'm pretty sure he's kosher - would be a terrific signing if it's true. Told me we had made an enquiry and were not put off.

[we are hibs]

Don't see where morgan would fit in now we have Newell. Don't think Celtic would loan him out to sit on the bench and by all accounts he didn't set the world alight while at Sunderland

[yerauldda]

Huge credit to Dempster and everyone at Hibs, each of our last few managers have really been backed.

[truehibernian]

Don't see where morgan would fit in now we have Newell. Don't think Celtic would loan him out to sit on the bench and by all accounts he didn't set the world alight while at Sunderland

Only passing on what I've heard WAH.

[SHODAN]

Assuming James is signing then another striker (McNulty?), a couple physical midfielders, maybe another winger and we're good to go?

[The_Horde]

Assuming James is signing then another striker (McNulty?), a couple physical midfielders, maybe another winger and we're good to go?

Back up for lewy?

[GloryGlory]

Assuming James is signing then another striker (McNulty?), a couple physical midfielders, maybe another winger and we're good to go?

Still need a goalie, too.

[J-C]

Back up for lewy?


Mackie?

[SHODAN]

Mackie?

:agree:

[James70]

Anyone think there could be 1st team players being sold to make way for the new signings and to bring in some cash. Certainly hope not.

[The_Horde]

Mackie?

He's been been quoted as a midfielder on here more recently though.

[EVENTUALLY]

Anyone think there could be 1st team players being sold to make way for the new signings and to bring in some cash. Certainly hope not.

Yes.
Now that we have signed a typical centre forward I can see.......
Kamberi out, McNulty in.
Swap or 2 separate deals

[we are hibs]

Would be gobsmacked if mcnulty comes back now.

[J-C]

He's been been quoted as a midfielder on here more recently though.


Nope he's a left wingback/left midfielder exactly the same as Lewy, he just needs to learn the defensive side to his game as he's more forward think than Lewis, great if we're playing an attacking style but he's still a young lad and is only going to get better, he has a sweet as hell left foot on him though.

[The_Horde]

Would be gobsmacked if mcnulty comes back now.

Why?

[The 90+2]

Would be gobsmacked if mcnulty comes back now.

You shouldn’t be. It will happen.

[Speedway]

Would be gobsmacked if mcnulty comes back now.

As it stands, McNulty will be a July signing for the club.

[MyJo]

Anyone think there could be 1st team players being sold to make way for the new signings and to bring in some cash. Certainly hope not.

The squad is pretty threadbare and we were badly exposed by injuries last season so I doubt there would be any plans to move people on from what we have unless significantly more bodies come in the door.

Kamberi, maybe, if we got good money that would help us finance a deal for McNulty and another striker.

If we sign Omeonga and a couple of other midfielders (Gravenberch & O’Hara?) i could see Slivka being allowed to move on.

[hibees 7062]

You shouldn’t be. It will happen.

:agree:

[calumhibee1]

The squad is pretty threadbare and we were badly exposed by injuries last season so I doubt there would be any plans to move people on from what we have unless significantly more bodies come in the door.

Kamberi, maybe, if we got good money that would help us finance a deal for McNulty and another striker.

If we sign Omeonga and a couple of other midfielders (Gravenberch & O’Hara?) i could see Slivka being allowed to move on.

Letting Slivka move on makes sense to me. He’s never going to nail down a starting place here. If we could move him on and bring in three central midfielders who aren’t number 10s then we’d be in pretty good shape imo.

[Nicho87]

McNulty liked the hibs announcement today on twitter. Not sure if that means anything

[S4uzee]

You shouldn’t be. It will happen.

You confident?

[TelaStella]

http://forum.fgrfc.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=105582 2nd post [emoji23]


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[thegaffer12]

Transfermarket says James' contract expires 30th June? Is that why it's not been announced?

[bingo70]

Transfermarket says James' contract expires 30th June? Is that why it's not been announced?

It would just be announced as a pre-contract if that was the case.

[Jones28]

Crazy fee to be paying for a Nat League 2 player imo. I hope I’m wrong but I’m concerned about the trend of these signings. People underrate the standard of football / how hard it is to play in Scotland. I’m worried these signings wont cut the mustard. Will be delighted to be wrong of course and new players will always get my support. Happy we are doing our business early!

FGR play in the football league, if that eases any of your worries!

My feeling is when they're unknown quantities you've got to have faith in the manager to get it right. I can't ever remember us being so proactive in the transfer market though.

[BSEJVT]

It would just be announced as a pre-contract if that was the case.

They may very well think for a few days why bother and just sit on it until 1/7

Also drip feeding the signings keeps the pot boiling.

I have a feeling there are a couple of departures coming up, one of which will be significant and a new signing or two will help soften the blow

[Dalianwanda]

FGR play in the football league, if that eases any of your worries!

My feeling is when they're unknown quantities you've got to have faith in the manager to get it right. I can't ever remember us being so proactive in the transfer market though.

Faith in the manager but also the fact recruitment have been looking at him for 2 years...and then forked out.

[Callum_62]

They may very well think for a few days why bother and just sit on it until 1/7

Also drip feeding the signings keeps the pot boiling.

I have a feeling there are a couple of departures coming up, one of which will be significant and a new signing or two will help soften the blowMarciano?

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[Since452]

http://forum.fgrfc.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=105582 2nd post [emoji23]


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Hehe

[Greenworld]

You shouldn’t be. It will happen.Bold comment

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[Borderhibbie76]

Other teams pick players like Moult from the lower leagues in England and people moan we don’t do it.

We’re doing it now and people are still moaning.Yup it's a bit crazy to be writing players off before they even officially signed. Me...I'm happy we are getting our business done early and appear to be getting all our 1st choice targets in

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[BSEJVT]

Marciano?

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That's my expectation

[hibbie02]

"He has been tracked extensively by our recruitment team over a long period of time and is also well known to Head Coach Paul Heckingbottom, who was meticulous with his own background checks."

As I said. Remarkable coincidence.


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[weecounty hibby]

As I said. Remarkable coincidence.


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Sounds like you don't belive that? If not, why not? I can't see why it would be a stretch that Hibs, with their recruitment team, had been aware of him and that a manager who has managed and coached in England would also be aware of him

[Borderhibbie76]

Yes.
Now that we have signed a typical centre forward I can see.......
Kamberi out, McNulty in.
Swap or 2 separate dealsI dont see McNulty happening tbh unless it's a loan later in window and think Flo will stay..Hecky has already said hes a big part of his plans

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[hibbie02]

Sounds like you don't belive that? If not, why not? I can't see why it would be a stretch that Hibs, with their recruitment team, had been aware of him and that a manager who has managed and coached in England would also be aware of him

My point is mainly that Hecky has players in mind and the board are backing him. Not sure the recruitment team are in charge as claimed. Not a dig, just an observation.


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[Eyrie]

As I said. Remarkable coincidence.


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You find it a remarkable coincidence that a Scottish team which monitors the lower leagues in England identifies the same free scoring striker that is also of interest to a promising young English lower league manager?

[Gmack7]

Hecky has previously confirmed that he's a fan of the loan system so it wont be a shock to get a couple of loans near the end of the window.