Summer 2019 transfer thread

[Torto7]

I can easily believe Aberdeen can offer more than us. The stats and wages don’t lie

Over a whole squad, yes they will be able to pay more. We can and should compete for an individual player however, especially one our manager clearly wanted . We're now in a position where people have a stick to beat the club with. The Sun talking about us being blown out of the water etc. I stick to my opinion that it's an own goal.

[Unseen work]

He agreed a deal to join us in May.

We then cough up an extra 125k as him and his agent make a meal of the situation.

He rejects Aberdeen last night, they offer even more money today and he signs.

Doesnt appear to be very loyal and will jump ship whenever the money is.

Id be more disappointed if as a club we chucked all the money at him so he signs, when it doesn’t appear he particularly wants to be here anyway.

We will get another centre mid.

[hhibs]

[QUOTE=Stuart93;5841482]Or other clubs have more money? What’re people not understanding about this? ABERDEEN HAVE MORE MONEY THAN US AND CAN THEREFORE OFFER MORE MONEY[/QU



In some cases,not all ,for a top target we could and should be able to match,you clearly have very lilmited view on how budgets can be allocated

And just another point, do not bloody shout at me !

[Bob Box Fish]

On a positive note we have Steven Whittaker to cover us until we find an alternative :cb

Whittaker, Mallan and Allan surely a song in there somewhere ?

[Ardenttwo]

Or other clubs have more money? What’re people not understanding about this? ABERDEEN HAVE MORE MONEY THAN US AND CAN THEREFORE OFFER MORE MONEY

Not what their manager said yesterday. On Grampian news last night he said that money would be tight this season with a new stadium and training ground to pay for

[Stuart93]

Not what their manager said yesterday. On Grampian news last night he said that money would be tight this season with a new stadium and training ground to pay for

He’s not going to come out and say he has loads of money to spend is he?

[BoomtownHibees]

On a positive note we have Steven Whittaker to cover us until we find an alternative :cb


That’s the spirit

[Macaroon]

I'll probably take flak for this but this is piss poor from Hibs and it's a massive PR blow imo. I don't buy for a second we couldn't match what they're offering if we wanted to. I've thought for years that our wage structure is far too rigid.

Assuming we could, what's to say that Hecky/the recruitment team actually valued him that highly? We have a budget of our own, other positions to buy for and ultimately we will have put a monetary value on Ojo's signature. If another team value his ability and qualities higher than us then so be it, I'd prefer we let that happen than overpay for him to prove a point.

[Since452]

He agreed a deal to join us in May.

We then cough up an extra 125k as him and his agent make a meal of the situation.

He rejects Aberdeen last night, they offer even more money today and he signs.

Doesnt appear to be very loyal and will jump ship whenever the money is.

Id be more disappointed if as a club we chucked all the money at him so he signs, when it doesn’t appear he particularly wants to be here anyway.

We will get another centre mid.

Spot on

[Hibs90]

2 year deal announced tomorrow. Money talks. You can have the best infrastructure in the world but if a player is getting offered more then they are going to take the money everytime.

Until we can start matching them wage wise then we will never compete. Tragic.

[Torto7]

Assuming we could, what's to say that Hecky/the recruitment team actually valued him that highly? We have a budget of our own, other positions to buy for and ultimately we will have put a monetary value on Ojo's signature. If another team value his ability and qualities higher than us then so be it, I'd prefer we let that happen than overpay for him to prove a point.

I have no proof maybe that's the case but what we do know is we wanted him and we've lost out on him to a direct rival. We've had a lot of positive news recently and I would have liked it to continue whilst sending a direct message to one of our rivals. Missed opportunity in my opinion.

[Hibernian Verse]

I'm reading a lot about how Aberdeen is a ****hole but not sure what the basis of this is. I lived there for 5 years and it's just as affluent as Edinburgh with plenty nice areas.

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

[RMQ1967]

He agreed a deal to join us in May.

We then cough up an extra 125k as him and his agent make a meal of the situation.

He rejects Aberdeen last night, they offer even more money today and he signs.

Doesnt appear to be very loyal and will jump ship whenever the money is.

Id be more disappointed if as a club we chucked all the money at him so he signs, when it doesn’t appear he particularly wants to be here anyway.

We will get another centre mid.

Agree with all of this. Settle on what we're prepared to pay & don't be dragged into a budding war.

The sheep have had to pay silly money for a 4th division player. Let's wait for the right player at the right price.

[04Sauzee]

He agreed a deal to join us in May.

We then cough up an extra 125k as him and his agent make a meal of the situation.

He rejects Aberdeen last night, they offer even more money today and he signs.

Doesnt appear to be very loyal and will jump ship whenever the money is.

Id be more disappointed if as a club we chucked all the money at him so he signs, when it doesn’t appear he particularly wants to be here anyway.

We will get another centre mid.
100%. Great Post

[Stevie Reid]

Agree with all of this. Settle on what we're prepared to pay & don't be dragged into a budding war.

The sheep have had to pay silly money for a 4th division player. Let's wait for the right player at the right price.

Indeed, and we still have decent money to spend on an alternative.

[Heisenberg]

Heckingbottom said today that we are in a similar position with other players as we are with Ojo. Just got to wait and see if any of them decide to sign up.

Ojo, on paper, looked like what we needed. We’ve really got no clue how good he is. Let’s hope he ends up being pish and we can laugh heartily at Aberdeen chucking cash at him.

[bigwheel]

I'm reading a lot about how Aberdeen is a ****hole but not sure what the basis of this is. I lived there for 5 years and it's just as affluent as Edinburgh with plenty nice areas.

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

Agreed ...That’s just narrow minded edinburgh views....social Media nonsense

[chippy]

Agree with all of this. Settle on what we're prepared to pay & don't be dragged into a budding war.

The sheep have had to pay silly money for a 4th division player. Let's wait for the right player at the right price.

I get this but unless we have another target or two lined up Aberdeen have played a blinder. Clearly we had invested a lot of time and energy on this guy but it’s certainly putting a dampener on our season preparations and season ticket sales unless of course we can do better

[Bob Box Fish]

Heckingbottom said today that we are in a similar position with other players as we are with Ojo. Just got to wait and see if any of them decide to sign up.

Ojo, on paper, looked like what we needed. We’ve really got no clue how good he is. Let’s hope he ends up being pish and we can laugh heartily at Aberdeen chucking cash at him.

I took it that he meant he wanted Ojo but it was out of his hands and was referring to similar situations with McNulty / Omeonga ?

[MyJo]

He agreed a deal to join us in May.

We then cough up an extra 125k as him and his agent make a meal of the situation.

He rejects Aberdeen last night, they offer even more money today and he signs.

Doesnt appear to be very loyal and will jump ship whenever the money is.

Id be more disappointed if as a club we chucked all the money at him so he signs, when it doesn’t appear he particularly wants to be here anyway.

We will get another centre mid.

The guy has shown himself to be nothing but a mercenary if he ends up signing for Aberdeen.

Happy to sign for us and terms agreed as a free agent and we have even stuck with him and coughed up more money due to him and his agent making a balls up of the relegation clause in his contract only to turn around and sign for Aberdeen who probably didn’t know or care he existed until two weeks ago thanks to us.

[Robbo6-2]

I get this but unless we have another target or two lined up Aberdeen have played a blinder. Clearly we had invested a lot of time and energy on this guy but it’s certainly putting a dampener on our season preparations and season ticket sales unless of course we can do better

I dont think losing out on a S****horpe player is going to have a massive effect on season ticket sales. Being abit dramatic

[Callum_62]

The guy has shown himself to be nothing but a mercenary if he ends up signing for Aberdeen.

Happy to sign for us and terms agreed as a free agent and we have even stuck with him and coughed up more money due to him and his agent making a balls up of the relegation clause in his contract only to turn around and sign for Aberdeen who probably didn’t know or care he existed until two weeks ago thanks to us.Not really. It might be cash, it might be european football, likely its a mix

He was our player to lose I'm afraid and it appears we have done just that

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

[sean04]

who even cares about this guy? Decent player maybe? Relegated from league 1 last year and no league 1 sides take him? Surely if this guy was a stand out in league 1 then would've had a lot of suitors from top end league 1 or even lower end championship. We move on

[Heisenberg]

I took it that he meant he wanted Ojo but it was out of his hands and was referring to similar situations with McNulty / Omeonga ?

Aye maybe true, I took it to mean that we had offers in for other players and were waiting for answers. Just need to wait and see, I’m sure we’ve got plenty other options.

[Fife-Hibee]

Hope he turns out to be ****ing mince 😡

[givescotlandfreedom]

I'm reading a lot about how Aberdeen is a ****hole but not sure what the basis of this is. I lived there for 5 years and it's just as affluent as Edinburgh with plenty nice areas.

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

I did too. Unless grey is your thing it really is a dump.

[RMQ1967]

I get this but unless we have another target or two lined up Aberdeen have played a blinder. Clearly we had invested a lot of time and energy on this guy but it’s certainly putting a dampener on our season preparations and season ticket sales unless of course we can do better

It depends on your perspective. I don't believe throwing silly money at a 28yo 4th division player is playing a blinder.

If we had got him on a free last month that would have been a decent result - still a risk but probably one worth taking.

The press will try to stir it up but it's no dampener to me & I've no interest in their petty headlines. Ultimately the sheep have paid way over the odds & well done to Hibs for stepping away from it.

[Callum_62]

who even cares about this guy? Decent player maybe? Relegated from league 1 last year and no league 1 sides take him? Surely if this guy was a stand out in league 1 then would've had a lot of suitors from top end league 1 or even lower end championship. We move onOur manager cared to be trying to sign him for 2 months

That's probably why the fans are reacting to us apparently losing him

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

[Bishop Hibee]

Still plenty time in the window to bring players in. I’d imagine our recruitment team has a number of potential targets in every position.

[Ronniekirk]

2 year deal announced tomorrow. Money talks. You can have the best infrastructure in the world but if a player is getting offered more then they are going to take the money everytime.

Until we can start matching them wage wise then we will never compete. Tragic.

The infrastructure issue bugs me now in as much as I thought we were now concentrating on the first team and improving it We already have one of the best facilities in the league
What we need now is a team on the pitch capable of getting into top four and investment in that’
If we spend more on indoor training facility that deflects from the above and doesn’t produce better players Its scouts who identify young talent and then coaches that can develop them that counts


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[B.H.F.C]

who even cares about this guy? Decent player maybe? Relegated from league 1 last year and no league 1 sides take him? Surely if this guy was a stand out in league 1 then would've had a lot of suitors from top end league 1 or even lower end championship. We move on

It’s the fact that we are going to lose out on a player to a rival who is paying more, whilst we have just cleared our debt but are talking about potentially shelling out more money for infrastructure, that is the source of frustration for some I think.

[DaveF]

It depends on your perspective. I don't believe throwing silly money at a 28yo 4th division player is playing a blinder.

If we had got him on a free last month that would have been a decent result - still a risk but probably one worth taking.

The press will try to stir it up but it's no dampener to me & I've no interest in their petty headlines. Ultimately the sheep have paid way over the odds & well done to Hibs for stepping away from it.

They can afford to pay over the odds because they have put a successful team on the park in recent years and reaped the benefits of that via Europe and challenging at the right end of the table.

Now this guy could be rubbish but given we chased him for long enough then I suspect he has something about him so in this case our unwillingness to compete has cost us.

I'm sure we'll get someone else though so we move on.

[NC1875]

They can afford to pay over the odds because they have put a successful team on the park in recent years and reaped the benefits of that via Europe and challenging at the right end of the table.

Now this guy could be rubbish but given we chased him for long enough then I suspect he has something about him so in this case our unwillingness to compete has cost us.

I'm sure we'll get someone else though so we move on.

They’re in Europe because they invested in the playing squad. Not infrastructure.

And then more infrastructure.....

[Tyler Durden]

Irrespective of turnover I thought they had a new stadium and training centre to finance ??? If we can't match or better Aberdeen for players we want in this situation then surely our short term goal of being 'best of the rest' seem a tad unrealistic no?

Well we were 2 games away from finishing above them, in 2017/18 so it doesn’t seem that unrealistic to me. We’ll sign more players.

[Hibernian Verse]

I did too. Unless grey is your thing it really is a dump.Did you stay in Northfield? It is not a dump, and it's also one of the sunniest places in Scotland, after Dunbar and Dundee.

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

[IncredibleHibee]

They can afford to pay over the odds because they have put a successful team on the park in recent years and reaped the benefits of that via Europe and challenging at the right end of the table.

Now this guy could be rubbish but given we chased him for long enough then I suspect he has something about him so in this case our unwillingness to compete has cost us.

I'm sure we'll get someone else though so we move on.

They can afford it because the have a guy on the board putting in money. Doesn’t have much to do with being in Europe

[DaveF]

They’re in Europe because they invested in the playing squad. Not infrastructure.

And then more infrastructure.....

Oh I know...

Clearly EM wasn't as big a draw as extra ££.

[DTS]

We obviously agreed terms with him 2 months ago and then paid the fee after his agent cocked up. Aberdeen offered less than us(I assume why would he originally turn them down) and then went in with more, it can happen. What hecky said in his interview is key, it sounded to me like we could have paid more but we only want players who want to be at hibs and not purely for financial gain as we have a tight squad and anyone only there for money would be an outsider.

Each player has a price that we believe they’re worth in fee and wages and rightly so we will now go down another route “we have plenty others like this” is what hecky said in his interview.

McInnes said the other night they’d had plenty bids accepted for players but couldn’t agree terms etc, will dons fans be raging and assume ojo was a second option like we now will with whatever CM we sign? Probably not. People losing their minds for no reason.

Disappointing not get a player the manager wanted? Yes.
Season defining or lacking ambition? 100% not.

[Tyler Durden]

The infrastructure issue bugs me now in as much as I thought we were now concentrating on the first team and improving it We already have one of the best facilities in the league
What we need now is a team on the pitch capable of getting into top four and investment in that’
If we spend more on indoor training facility that deflects from the above and doesn’t produce better players Its scouts who identify young talent and then coaches that can develop them that counts


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The coaches are telling the Board that they need an indoor facility to help develop these players.

[MWHIBBIES]

Clubs miss out on targets all the time, sadly it has happened to us now. Man United famously missed out on Robben and Mikel to Chelsea, United won everything in the 5 years after that. We have to find another player, not use this as an excuse and go again.

[chippy]

I dont think losing out on a S****horpe player is going to have a massive effect on season ticket sales. Being abit dramatic

Hope your right

[Barney McGrew]

2 year deal announced tomorrow. Money talks.

I wouldn’t be too chuffed if we had paid a six figure transfer fee plus chunky wages and no doubt a signing on fee for a guy who had only committed to a two year deal TBH

[Billy Whizz]

Oh I know...

Clearly EM wasn't as big a draw as extra ££.

He’s no allegiance to Scotland, cash counts, can’t blame him

Let’s move on, see if we can get someone better

[Silky]

The guy has shown himself to be nothing but a mercenary if he ends up signing for Aberdeen.

Happy to sign for us and terms agreed as a free agent and we have even stuck with him and coughed up more money due to him and his agent making a balls up of the relegation clause in his contract only to turn around and sign for Aberdeen who probably didn’t know or care he existed until two weeks ago thanks to us.

Agreed. It seems he didn't want to be here in the first place. I've heard stories of previous signings turning down offers to come to us. I think I read Adam Jackson had offers from the English Championship to come to us. A league where teams have massive budgets compared to us. But, he wanted to come to Hibs. I really don't think Ojo did.

At the end of the day, we may have missed out on a good player who would be an asset to us. On the other hand, we could have got him and he turned out crap. Then Hecky and the board get it tight for wasting massive wages on a dud. Time will tell if the decision not to get into an auction with Aberdeen was the right one.

[DaveF]

They can afford it because the have a guy on the board putting in money. Doesn’t have much to do with being in Europe

It's not just Europe though is it? 2nd place finishes, good cup runs all help a player make their mind up as well as the dough.

And don't we have 500k now burning a hole in our bank account?

[Leith Green]

Have to say this is disappointing. I thought the new ownership would see us outbidding the likes of Aberdeen for our no1 targets. There can be no debating the fact he was our no1 choice , so very frustrating if he signs for the sheep

[Stevie Reid]

Apparently a two year deal being signed with them. Hundred odd grand would have been a lot of money for us for only two years.

[K-Zazu]

We are Aberdeen’s bitches on and off the pitch it seems

[500miles]

He’s no allegiance to Scotland, cash counts, can’t blame him

Let’s move on, see if we can get someone better

We'll he's made an agreement to join, on a pretense regarding his previous contract, hibs revived the deal, then he renaged on the previous deal for more money elsewhere. It doesn't point to a great deal of honesty or integrity.

[Heisenberg]

Have to say this is disappointing. I thought the new ownership would see us outbidding the likes of Aberdeen for our no1 targets. There can be no debating the fact he was our no1 choice , so very frustrating if he signs for the sheep

The new ownership have already confirmed the transfer budget will remain as it was and have made it pretty clear that their focus is the academy and an outdoor pitch at EM.

We have already spent well this summer and will continue to do so, just at a level we are happy with. We won’t be held to ransom.

[Unseen work]

People seem to be forgetting Aberdeen are getting a new stadium and training facility within the next year.

All of a sudden east mains won’t seem as big a draw for anyone considering us or Aberdeen. In fairness of late I’m not sure there’s been much competition as most if not all have picked Aberdeen.

[Since452]

We are Aberdeen’s bitches on and off the pitch it seems

Embarrassingly it seems so.

[Billy Whizz]

We'll he's made an agreement to join, on a pretense regarding his previous contract, hibs revived the deal, then he renaged on the previous deal for more money elsewhere. It doesn't point to a great deal of honesty or integrity.

Didn’t know that, well rid if that’s the case

[Leith Green]

The new ownership have already confirmed the transfer budget will remain as it was and have made it pretty clear that their focus is the academy and an outdoor pitch at EM.

We have already spent well this summer and will continue to do so, just at a level we are happy with. We won’t be held to ransom.

Yeah exactly.. We are back talking about investing in the infrastructure at the expense of signing our main targets. I feel like we have been here before

[SRHibs]

People seem to be forgetting Aberdeen are getting a new stadium and training facility within the next year.

All of a sudden east mains won’t seem as big a draw for anyone considering us or Aberdeen. In fairness of late I’m not sure there’s been much competition as most if not all have picked Aberdeen.

Aye, but we've got a big castle.

[18Craig75]

Can infrastructure play centre mid

[Victor]

Have to say this is disappointing. I thought the new ownership would see us outbidding the likes of Aberdeen for our no1 targets. There can be no debating the fact he was our no1 choice , so very frustrating if he signs for the sheep

Not really. Hibs were going to get him for nothing. It has now turned into a bidding war. I am sure the agent informed Hibs what Aberdeen were offering expecting us to up our bid. Hibs obviously do not think he is worth any more. Move on to our next target.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

[One Day Soon]

I get this but unless we have another target or two lined up Aberdeen have played a blinder. Clearly we had invested a lot of time and energy on this guy but it’s certainly putting a dampener on our season preparations and season ticket sales unless of course we can do better

Seriously, a player most of us have never heard of not signing for us is putting a damper on our season ticket sales? I don't think so. Being stuck with a crap manager like Levein for yet another season is the sort of thing that will inhibit season ticket sales...

[Since452]

Hope he enjoys playing in a city where there's more passion for shinty than football

[matty_f]

Embarrassingly it seems so.

No it doesn’t. If he’d signed here instead if there i wouldn’t be sitting thinking they were our bitches.

[Heisenberg]

Yeah exactly.. We are back talking about investing in the infrastructure at the expense of signing our main targets. I feel like we have been here before

According to the manager every player he’s signed to date has been his first choice target. We’ve gone out and got them in early. Ojo has been the odd one out in that regard but even then, we are only in this position because of his contract clause, otherwise he’d be a Hibs player already.

The manager has been very well backed this summer, as was the manager last summer as well.

[Real Emerald]

It’s not ideal when we keep getting beat to players by Aberdeen but he’s a 27 year old from S****horpe, not exactly in the Steve Archibald from Barca signing is it? I reckon we’re better off not throwing money at this guy, bring back Dylan, that would piss them off 😂

[oneone73]

Hope he enjoys playing in a city where there's more passion for shinty than football

That is just stupid.

[SRHibs]

I'll probably take flak for this but this is piss poor from Hibs and it's a massive PR blow imo. I don't buy for a second we couldn't match what they're offering if we wanted to. I've thought for years that our wage structure is far too rigid.

Agreed, in terms of it being a PR blow. A new owner has come in and invested into the club, only for us to return to the status quo at the first hurdle, and you can see why many would be irked by that. Don't see us being bigger than Aberdeen anytime in the near future.

[Leith Green]

Not really. Hibs were going to get him for nothing. It has now turned into a bidding war. I am sure the agent informed Hibs what Aberdeen were offering expecting us to up our bid. Hibs obviously do not think he is worth any more. Move on to our next target.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

at the end of the day Aberdeen are paying more money for a player both clubs want. We have been outbid by them however its dressed up

[BoomtownHibees]

That is just stupid.

I know, imagine liking shinty

[jeffers]

Not really. Hibs were going to get him for nothing. It has now turned into a bidding war. I am sure the agent informed Hibs what Aberdeen were offering expecting us to up our bid. Hibs obviously do not think he is worth any more. Move on to our next target.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I think that’s a fair summary of the situation. It’s disappointing as we did want him and he sounded like the type of player we need, but I’m not going through get too worked up over a player I’ve never actually seen play + if we spend money on a fee I expect a player to sign for more than 2 years.

[supermcginn]

A S****horpe player lol. I won't lose any sleep tonight.

[B.H.F.C]

According to the manager every player he’s signed to date has been his first choice target.

They might have been but managers talk nonsense all the time. He said a week or two ago that any deal for Ojo was dead, which it clearly wasn’t.

He’s hardly going to come out and say that we missed out on a few players so signed Doidge and Newell instead.

[Leith Green]

According to the manager every player he’s signed to date has been his first choice target. We’ve gone out and got them in early. Ojo has been the odd one out in that regard but even then, we are only in this position because of his contract clause, otherwise he’d be a Hibs player already.

The manager has been very well backed this summer, as was the manager last summer as well.

They must have wanted him enough to pay a fee tk get him

[oneone73]

I know, imagine liking shinty

Imagine thinking Aberdeen is located in the west or central Highlands.

[Shrekko]

Where are we hearing he’s definitely going to Aberdeen?

[1875STEVE]

What people seem to be missing is, we got relegated from the league, along with Hearts, and the newco were working their way back-up.

This gave Aberdeen a 4-5 year free run at 2nd place, higher prize money and 5 straight seasons in the europa league, which im pretty sure they got through at least a round or two every season.

We seen the money being talked about for hibs getting through a couple last season. It's put Aberdeen ahead of us.


It's not miles though, it looks like we have lost out to them, which is dissapointing, but we will be closing the gap on them, and with the new owner in place will get us closer.

Let's just wait and see who we go for, id be much happier with a player called Omeonga from Seria A tham a S****horpe player to be honest.

[1875STEVE]

Where are we hearing he’s definitely going to Aberdeen?

Sun saying it's done on a two year deal.

[Victor]

at the end of the day Aberdeen are paying more money for a player both clubs want. We have been outbid by them however its dressed up

Or Aberdeen have paid over the odds. We won’t know until the season starts.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

[04Sauzee]

Any actual signing rumours. Can't think of us being linked with anyone
Apart fro Ojo, Omeonga and McNulty of course 😂

[Leith Green]

Or Aberdeen have paid over the odds. We won’t know until the season starts.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

True...

[Clarence]

I have no first hand evidence about what has gone on with this deal but it’s entirely possible that we have felt like we’re being dicked around by the player and have just decided that enough is enough.

[Stokesy's on fire]

If he wants to join the bottle jobs then so be it.

[Wilson]

A S****horpe player lol. I won't lose any sleep tonight.

When we're signing players from Forest Green and Yeovil I wouldn't knock S****horpe. If a player is good enough it doesn't matter where we get him - and we wanted this one.

Anyway, it isn't our job to lose sleep over it. It's Hecky's:wink:

[Stokesy's on fire]

That is just stupid.

Pretty true though

[Leith Green]

Hopefully hecky feels there are equally as good signings out there instead

[SloopJB]

I have no first hand evidence about what has gone on with this deal but it’s entirely possible that we have felt like we’re being dicked around by the player and have just decided that enough is enough.

It looks like the player ended up with two options, he spoke to both clubs and decided the better option for him was Aberdeen.
These things happen.

[MrRobot]

If it’s true, **** him.

Onto the next target.

[Willis1875]

Wonder what happened to the player playing in Portugal that we seemed to scout on more than one occasion

[Wilson]

Wonder what happened to the player playing in Portugal that we seemed to scout on more than one occasion

Dunno. Ask Derek McInnes?

[DetroitHibs]

Like it or not, he was a major target. We had planned on getting him for free and when that went South, paid a fee. Now we've been pipped by Aberdeen it seems. I think when a player is a major target of our management team, it's worth matching the likes of Aberdeen. Losing out to the Huns and Celtic I could understand, not Aberdeen though.

[Willis1875]

Dunno. Ask Derek McInnes?

I did, he told me to ask Jack Ross

[Stokesy's on fire]

Like it or not, he was a major target. We had planned on getting him for free and when that went South, paid a fee. Now we've been pipped by Aberdeen it seems. I think when a player is a major target of our management team, it's worth matching the likes of Aberdeen. Losing out to the Huns and Celtic I could understand, not Aberdeen though.


Exactly Aberdeen beating us to a player is pretty embarrassing.

[bingo70]

Any actual signing rumours. Can't think of us being linked with anyone
Apart fro Ojo, Omeonga and McNulty of course 😂

Maybe for the best we don’t find out about our other targets until they sign 😂

[Clarence]

It looks like the player ended up with two options, he spoke to both clubs and decided the better option for him was Aberdeen.
These things happen.

The agent could equally have been playing each club’s offers against one another and we just decided he wasn’t worth it.

[Wilson]

Maybe for the best we don’t find out about our other targets until they sign 😂

For who :wink:

[bingo70]

The agent could equally have been playing each club’s offers against one another and we just decided he wasn’t worth it.

That’s the agents job.

We said the deal was dead, it’s then the agents job to find other better deals elsewhere.

[SloopJB]

The agent could equally have been playing each club’s offers against one another and we just decided he wasn’t worth it.

Sorry, I thought we had made him an offer.
Didn’t realise Hibs had pulled the plug on the deal, seems contrary to everything that’s been played out though.

[04Sauzee]

Maybe for the best we don’t find out about our other targets until they sign 😂

Could have a point 😅

[neil7908]

Exactly Aberdeen beating us to a player is pretty embarrassing.

It's not embarrassing, it's been happening for years. The focus of the new owner and his people now needs to be preventing that from happening in the future. That must be the priority, not new training facilities.

[Ozyhibby]

Aberdeen have shown more ambition, it’s why they finish above us.
If you want quality players you have to pay the money, all the fancy video presentations in the world won’t change that.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[supermcginn]

When we're signing players from Forest Green and Yeovil I wouldn't knock S****horpe. If a player is good enough it doesn't matter where we get him - and we wanted this one.

Anyway, it isn't our job to lose sleep over it. It's Hecky's:wink:
Plenty more fish in the sea. I wouldn't have lost any sleep over our other signings not coming either.

[Onceinawhile]

Aberdeen have shown more ambition, it’s why they finish above us.
If you want quality players you have to pay the money, all the fancy video presentations in the world won’t change that.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

They finish above us because their turnover is 50% higher than ours and they can spend more on players due to that.

[Borderhibbie76]

Agree with all of this. Settle on what we're prepared to pay & don't be dragged into a budding war.

The sheep have had to pay silly money for a 4th division player. Let's wait for the right player at the right price.True but we also need to show a bit of ambition too...whatever way u look at this it's a massive own goal by the club

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

[Billy Whizz]

They finish above us because their turnover is 50% higher than ours and they can spend more on players due to that.

And why is that

[Clarence]

That’s the agents job.

We said the deal was dead, it’s then the agents job to find other better deals elsewhere.

Course. Seems like our deal was still on the table until very recently though and certain reports were saying that we’d been successful. It just feels like there’s been an element of teasing that could have been a bit of a turn off. Fair Fuchs to his agent but I think we probably have a v low tolerance for that sort of caper.

[Onceinawhile]

And why is that

Because they have directors who made a large amount of money in oil that they invest.

We don't have that.

But everyone knows that, so not sure why it needs covered ad nauseum.

[The Captain....]

And why is thatOne reason is its not amateur hour in aberdeen's commercial operation.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

[Hibs90]

I think it's a combination of all the reasons folk are stating above.

The bottom line is though until we can compete financially then we won't be pushing for 2nd/3rd on a consistent basis.

[bingo70]

Course. Seems like our deal was still on the table until very recently though and certain reports were saying that we’d been successful. It just feels like there’s been an element of teasing that could have been a bit of a turn off. Fair Fuchs to his agent but I think we probably have a v low tolerance for that sort of caper.

I think it’s the S****horpe chairman we wouldn’t have wanted to deal with but Aberdeen making a move will have forced our hand.

Still think the player was totally ****ed over by that club, regardless of who he joins now.

[Rumble de Thump]

Hibs were interested in signing Ojo when his agent said, due to a clause in his contract, he could be signed on a free. His club then said that was nonsense and Hibs dropped interest.

[Gordy M]

One reason is its not amateur hour in aberdeen's commercial operation.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

What commercial deals is it that they have though? Is it not just one or two businessmen donating a load of cash? Im not sure how you compete with that unless you find 2 like minded hibs supporting businessmen?

[Clarence]

Sorry, I thought we had made him an offer.
Didn’t realise Hibs had pulled the plug on the deal, seems contrary to everything that’s been played out though.

Like I say I don’t know what has happened but with the reports saying that he chose us, it sounds like we made an offer that he was happy with, Aberdeen improved their’s and we didn’t bother improving ours.

[J-C]

Aberdeen have shown more ambition, it’s why they finish above us.
If you want quality players you have to pay the money, all the fancy video presentations in the world won’t change that.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Ambition? the guy was a half decent English League 1 player who has just been relegation to their 4th tier, no one had heard of the guy until it came out, not a soul had even thought about him and now we're greetin over someone we don't even know will be a good player or not. He's oneof many decent midfielders knocking about the leagues, if the recruitment team are doing their jobs, we'll have other players lined up.

[Unseen work]

These sort of things will happen all the time, the difference is how public it is because of what the agent and S****horpe chairman have been saying.

He was a centre mid for a team that just got relegated to league 2, he may be a very good player but we will have to wait and see. He is also 28 in a couple of months and appeared to not look interested last season after a very impressive debut season

Sean Clare was meant to be the next big thing when hearts signed him....

[jeffers]

What commercial deals is it that they have though? Is it not just one or two businessmen donating a load of cash? Im not sure how you compete with that unless you find 2 like minded hibs supporting businessmen?

They have a shirt sponsor, something we decided wasn’t needed this season.

[chrisski33]

Reported that Ojo is away to with a 2 year deal with Aberdeen.

i was really looking forward to this guy but sometimes there are signs it’s just not meant to be and there has been plenty for this one.

Maybe some jumped the gun too soon about us signing him

[Callum_62]

Hibs were interested in signing Ojo when his agent said, due to a clause in his contract, he could be signed on a free. His club then said that was nonsense and Hibs dropped interest.We were in for him today so that's not true

Looks like we stumped up a fee and so did Aberdeen

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

[Billy Whizz]

Because they have directors who made a large amount of money in oil that they invest.

We don't have that.

But everyone knows that, so not sure why it needs covered ad nauseum.
Current Board have had 5 years to look at commercial opportunities

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Surely the lure of playing European football this year had something to do with it? You’d think that would be front and centre of Aberdeen’s pitch to him

[Hibs90]

Surely the lure of playing European football this year had something to do with it? You’d think that would be front and centre of Aberdeen’s pitch to him

If Aberdeen offered 3k and European football and Hibs offered 4k where do you think he would sign?

Of course the figures are just for examples.

[Albanian Hibs]

Maybe there was some sort of medical issue or signs of an injury which caused hibs to pull out of deal??

[Springbank]

Surely the lure of playing European football this year had something to do with it? You’d think that would be front and centre of Aberdeen’s pitch to him

Come to Finland, get beat 1-0, euro run over, and enjoy living in Aberdeen, a town that smells of haddock & diesel at all times

[Broken Gnome]

I take it this thread acts as therapy and all this is out of our system by the time people head to Stirling tomorrow? We don't have 1,000-odd standing in silence or spitting feathers tomorrow about this embarrassment and tragedy and it being the deathknell for all hopes of ambition for us???

[hfc rd]

Maybe there was some sort of medical issue or signs of an injury which caused hibs to pull out of deal??


Unless I’ve missed something, not seen anything anywhere that we pulled out of the deal. He’s rejected us to sign for Aberdeen. Probably more money and European football.

[Albanian Hibs]

Unless I’ve missed something, not seen anything anywhere that we pulled out of the deal. He’s rejected us to sign for Aberdeen. Probably more money and European football.

Where does it say he rejected us? Unless I have missed something?

[SloopJB]

I take it this thread acts as therapy and all this is out of our system by the time people head to Stirling tomorrow? We don't have 1,000-odd standing in silence or spitting feathers tomorrow about this embarrassment and tragedy and it being the deathknell for all hopes of ambition for us???

There’ll be a minutes applause in the 125th minute.

[HoboHarry]

I take it this thread acts as therapy and all this is out of our system by the time people head to Stirling tomorrow? We don't have 1,000-odd standing in silence or spitting feathers tomorrow about this embarrassment and tragedy and it being the deathknell for all hopes of ambition for us???
Happyclapper. Everyone needs to be wearing a black armband.....

[Wilson]

Where does it say he rejected us? Unless I have missed something?

It doesn't say. It is the simplest conclusion when a player has two clubs in for him and picks one over the other.

There are a couple of posters scraping around for reasons why hibs might have pulled out of a deal - as if it is impossible to comprehend that a player might actually not choose hibs.

Players don't have the emotional attachment to hibs or Edinburgh that we do. All things considered he picked Aberdeen. It happens.

[madhatter]

Hope we have 2-3 high calibre players lined up. I'm pleased with the signings made so far but being honest barring the obvious, Allan, I've heard, and know, very little about the rest. They look to be players with some ability/talent but think it's a pity we haven't seemed to have looked further afield. We have a scouting department...

[hfc rd]

Where does it say he rejected us? Unless I have missed something?


Both ourselves and Aberdeen had bids accepted for him. Heckingbottom said he held talks with the player and the ball was in his court if he wanted to join - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48969641

24 hours ago, media outlets such as the BBC were claiming that we had won the race to sign him. Now it looks like he has chosen Aberdeen as his preferred destination and will be unveiled as their new signing

That’s it there in a nutshell. Looks as if he has rejected us for the sheep. So be it, we move on

[Gordy M]

They have a shirt sponsor, something we decided wasn’t needed this season.

Yep, i agree, but that say accounts for about 200k, their turnover is about 6 million more than ours. What are the other commercial deals that we should be securing? What deals do Aberdeen have in place that we should?

Is it not the case they have a group of businessmen handing over cash? I genuinely dont know.

[jgl07]

Unless I’ve missed something, not seen anything anywhere that we pulled out of the deal. He’s rejected us to sign for Aberdeen. Probably more money and European football.
Aberdeen could be out of Europe before he plays a match for them?

[Since452]

Where does it say he rejected us? Unless I have missed something?

All over the idiots playground that is Twitter that he has signed a 2 year deal at the sheep pen

[Crab apple]

We move on. I’m sure we must have alternatives already lined up given our pressing need for a defensive midfielder and the lengthy on off nature of the Ojo deal.

[Billy Whizz]

Yep, i agree, but that say accounts for about 200k, their turnover is about 6 million more than ours. What are the other commercial deals that we should be securing? What deals do Aberdeen have in place that we should?

Is it not the case they have a group of businessmen handing over cash? I genuinely dont know.
More than likely, but we didn’t

[B.H.F.C]

They finish above us because their turnover is 50% higher than ours and they can spend more on players due to that.

They still have a training ground and stadium to pay for though. We are debt free with that in place. I don’t think it’s unrealistic to now feel disappointed if the continue to outbid is for players. Particularly when we feel that it’s ok to turn down opportunities to increase our turnover to support foundations.

[Since452]

We move on. I’m sure we must have alternatives already lined up given our pressing need for a defensive midfielder and the lengthy on off nature of the Ojo deal.

That'll be a certainty

[Wakeyhibee]

Surely the lure of playing European football this year had something to do with it? You’d think that would be front and centre of Aberdeen’s pitch to him

Was thinking the same. Money may play a part but this may have been a draw

[The Harp Awakes]

Like I say I don’t know what has happened but with the reports saying that he chose us, it sounds like we made an offer that he was happy with, Aberdeen improved their’s and we didn’t bother improving ours.

Aberdeen will have offered more money without doubt. Nobody in their right mind would choose to live in Aberdeen rather than Edinburgh if the money on the table was the same.

I've still no idea how good he is, so not that bothered. What is concerning is that we're short of a defensive midfielder and a striker and competitive games are about to start.

[hfc rd]

Aberdeen could be out of Europe before he plays a match for them?


They could.

But they’ve been regulars in Europe over the last couple of seasons now and look as if they’ve offered more money.

[MacGruber]

He agreed a deal to join us in May.

We then cough up an extra 125k as him and his agent make a meal of the situation.

He rejects Aberdeen last night, they offer even more money today and he signs.

Doesnt appear to be very loyal and will jump ship whenever the money is.

Id be more disappointed if as a club we chucked all the money at him so he signs, when it doesn’t appear he particularly wants to be here anyway.

We will get another centre mid.

We can sign another centre mid if Aberdeen say it's okay. Pity McInnes didn't fancy Newell.

We could save time asking Aberdeen who they deem not good enough for them, then go for those guys

Only until we have a rich owner though then we'll show those sheepies who is boss.

Season ticket returned.

Heckingbottom out

Lol

[Hibeesmad]

Understandable that he has chosen to go for Aberdeen, opportunity of playing European Football and he will be picking up a better wage.

We move on and try to find someone who wants to be part of taking us to that next level. Not going to lose any sleep over Funso Ojo, put that £130,000 towards Omeonga

[MacGruber]

Understandable that he has chosen to go for Aberdeen, opportunity of playing European Football and he will be picking up a better wage.

We move on and try to find someone who wants to be part of taking us to that next level. Not going to lose any sleep over Funso Ojo, put that £130,000 towards Omeonga

Towards Omeonga 100%

[Tommy75]

Very disappointed if he has chose Aberdeen ahead of us. This could have been a quick win for the new owners and been a real statement if we had captured this lad.

Fed up reading about all how we need to concentrate on infrastructure, the academy etc. Not sure if it is just me but I find all this stuff terribly boring?

I wish the main priority for our new owners was to invest in the playing squad for the next few years. Establish us a real force in Scottish football finishing 3rd, 4th possibly even 2nd for the next few years and put together a few decent cup runs and maybe even win a trophy or 2. The crowds would swell, income would go up and then use this to invest in other aspects of the club!

[hfc rd]

Understandable that he has chosen to go for Aberdeen, opportunity of playing European Football and he will be picking up a better wage.

We move on and try to find someone who wants to be part of taking us to that next level. Not going to lose any sleep over Funso Ojo, put that £130,000 towards Omeonga


You reckon a Mallan, Omeonga & Allan midfield would work?

[B.H.F.C]

Understandable that he has chosen to go for Aberdeen, opportunity of playing European Football and he will be picking up a better wage.

We move on and try to find someone who wants to be part of taking us to that next level. Not going to lose any sleep over Funso Ojo, put that £130,000 towards Omeonga

Putting that money towards Omeonga doesn’t address our issues in the middle of the park IMO.

[dchibs]

Maybe there was some sort of medical issue or signs of an injury which caused hibs to pull out of deal??

Clutching at straws doesn't help, lets just say ta ta and move on to our next target.

[Unseen work]

Guys he rejected Aberdeen last night. That means Europe, the club etc all that never mattered to him.

An improves offer went in today and he took it.

Its money.

They have more of it than us.

[Hibeesmad]

You reckon a Mallan, Omeonga & Allan midfield would work?

I think it would

[mjhibby]

Understandable that he has chosen to go for Aberdeen, opportunity of playing European Football and he will be picking up a better wage.

We move on and try to find someone who wants to be part of taking us to that next level. Not going to lose any sleep over Funso Ojo, put that £130,000 towards Omeonga

As heckys said he only wants players who want to be here. Good luck to him but I'm only interested in guys who sign for us. Im sure Hecky has other targets. Most likely be announced without anybody knowing like some of the other signings. Time will tell if is a good player. Not convinced by the dons signings and I think it will be a real battle for third.

[bigwheel]

Guys he rejected Aberdeen last night. That means Europe, the club etc all that never mattered to him.

An improves offer went in today and he took it.

Its money.

They have more of it than us.

There’s no evidence that he rejected Aberdeen..he went up to see them today ...

[jacomo]

Yep, i agree, but that say accounts for about 200k, their turnover is about 6 million more than ours. What are the other commercial deals that we should be securing? What deals do Aberdeen have in place that we should?

Is it not the case they have a group of businessmen handing over cash? I genuinely dont know.


I think Aberdeen include things like catering sales whereas we only include the fee paid to Hibs by the catering contractor.

Whatever, I’m pretty sure we are not comparing like with like.

[tamig]

We'll he's made an agreement to join, on a pretense regarding his previous contract, hibs revived the deal, then he renaged on the previous deal for more money elsewhere. It doesn't point to a great deal of honesty or integrity.

Indeed. And throw in his behaviour at his current club for good measure. A questionable sort.

[Hibeesmad]

As heckys said he only wants players who want to be here. Good luck to him but I'm only interested in guys who sign for us. Im sure Hecky has other targets. Most likely be announced without anybody knowing like some of the other signings. Time will tell if is a good player. Not convinced by the dons signings and I think it will be a real battle for third.

Shinnie and Mackay-Stevens will be huge losses for them.

[mjhibby]

Guys he rejected Aberdeen last night. That means Europe, the club etc all that never mattered to him.

An improves offer went in today and he took it.

Its money.

They have more of it than us.

Not sure it's all about money. I'm sure Hecky could have matched the dons wages if he wanted. If that was the case players would hold out for a lot longer to see if they could get bigger wages. Could be the agent has made the dons pay well over the odds for a player relegated with s****horpe. Time will tell but guys who looked like they were going to one club and switch at the last minute don't have a great record of being good signings. IMHO of course.

[Albanian Hibs]

Clutching at straws doesn't help, lets just say ta ta and move on to our next target.

Clutching 🤣 I really don't care if he goes to Aberdeen. I wouldn't want Hibs to waste money on a player that has issues.

[Hibeesmad]

FWIW I think if Hecky really wanted this player then we would sign him.

[Captain Trips]

The level Hibs, Aberdeen etc are at wages wise means anything from £100 to £1k pw difference offered is a hell of a lot of money irrespective of location and facilities at club.

[hfc rd]

I think it would


Against the likes of St Mirren, Hamilton etc, but playing that midfield 3 against a Celtic or Rangers, I’m not so sure as we would get overrun. We would need a combative midfielder that does the dirty work in there and that would allow the likes of Scott Allan to do what they are good at.

[Hibeesmad]

The level Hibs, Aberdeen etc are at wages wise means anything from £100 to £1k pw difference offered is a hell of a lot of money irrespective of location and facilities at club.

Got to look at it from a neutral point of view, if you had no emotional connection between two teams and one of them offers you an extra £500 a week alongside the opportunity of playing in the Europa League you would probably take that offer.

[Heisenberg]

Bit more from Hecky on it here....

http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2019/07/12/paul-heckingbottom-insists-he-only-wants-players-committed-to-hibs-as-funso-ojo-nears-aberdeen-move-transfer-news/

[Callum_62]

Gonna be fun when he's announced as signing for us tomorrow[emoji57][emoji23]

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

[Hibeesmad]

Against the likes of St Mirren, Hamilton etc, but playing that midfield 3 against a Celtic or Rangers, I’m not so sure as we would get overrun. We would need a combative midfielder that does the dirty work in there and that would allow the likes of Scott Allan to do what they are good at.

I doubted Omeonga’s physical ability at some points last season but I think he has the potential to be fantastic in that role, still young and learning

[Unseen work]

Shinnie and Mackay-Stevens will be huge losses for them.

GMS barely kicked a ball for them second half of the season however shinnie is a big miss.

Bryson, Ojo and Hedges are all good signings on paper at least. Main isn’t a goal scorer but is handy and will suit there style of play to a tee.

..............................Lewis............... ...

Logan.....Devlin/Taylor.....McKenna.....Leigh/Considine

............Ferguson.......Ovo........Bryson...... ...

Gallagher/Mclennan/Wright.................................Hedges/McGinn

............................Wilson/ Cosgrove/Main...........

Thats a strong team. It may not be pretty it times but it’s solid defensively and has plenty attacking options.

[Here’s Lucy!]

Gonna be fun when he's announced as signing for us tomorrow[emoji57][emoji23]

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk


:faf::faf:

[Stuart93]

GMS barely kicked a ball for them second half of the season however shinnie is a big miss.

Bryson, Ojo and Hedges are all good signings on paper at least. Main isn’t a goal scorer but is handy and will suit there style of play to a tee.

..............................Lewis............... ...

Logan.....Devlin/Taylor.....McKenna.....Leigh/Considine

............Ferguson.......Ovo........Bryson...... ...

Gallagher/Mclennan/Wright.................................Hedges/McGinn

............................Wilson/ Cosgrove/Main...........

Thats a strong team. It may not be pretty it times but it’s solid defensively and has plenty attacking options.

See I look at that Aberdeen team and think for all the financial power they supposedly have it isn’t that great.

[Paloschi]

Bit more from Hecky on it here....

http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2019/07/12/paul-heckingbottom-insists-he-only-wants-players-committed-to-hibs-as-funso-ojo-nears-aberdeen-move-transfer-news/

Love it. We'll not come to regret this one. He is 27 and at a club like S****horpe for a reason.

[Paloschi]

GMS barely kicked a ball for them second half of the season however shinnie is a big miss.

Bryson, Ojo and Hedges are all good signings on paper at least. Main isn’t a goal scorer but is handy and will suit there style of play to a tee.

..............................Lewis............... ...

Logan.....Devlin/Taylor.....McKenna.....Leigh/Considine

............Ferguson.......Ovo........Bryson...... ...

Gallagher/Mclennan/Wright.................................Hedges/McGinn

............................Wilson/ Cosgrove/Main...........

Thats a strong team. It may not be pretty it times but it’s solid defensively and has plenty attacking options.

That doesn't bother me at all. They are going backwards.

[The 90+2]

Love it. We'll not come to regret this one. He is 27 and at a club like S****horpe for a reason.

So you’re saying it’s a mistake bidding £150k for the player in the first place and it would be a waste of money?

[CloudSquall]

Taking the time to read over how Ojo's behaved since the end of last season I'd rather we moved on and tried to bring back Omeonga.

Reading about Ojo brings back too many flashbacks of time under Fenlon and co when we had players turning up for a pay check and not giving one flying F on the pitch.

Not doubting the guy is a good footballer and the type we need in centre mid, but his attitude and behaviour puts me right off him.

[Unseen work]

See I look at that Aberdeen team and think for all the financial power they supposedly have it isn’t that great.

I think individually you’re right, but McInnes has them playing as a team which suits them to a tee with all them knowing there roles.

Thats what excited me about Heckingbottom, I think with a organisation and buying players to suit the team you can really progress in this league.

Kilmarnock are the same, flair players in the right areas but solid as a team.

[Paloschi]

So you’re saying it’s a mistake bidding £150k for the player in the first place and it would be a waste of money?

Yes. We originally thought we could sign him for free. People are acting like we've missed out on some top player to Aberdeen. There will be better out there. I am not excited by a player who won't develop further.

[CloudSquall]

You reckon a Mallan, Omeonga & Allan midfield would work?

I'd be happy with that with Horgan and Boyle either side.

[Stuart93]

I think individually you’re right, but McInnes has them playing as a team which suits them to a tee with all them knowing there roles.

Thats what excited me about Heckingbottom, I think with a organisation and buying players to suit the team you can really progress in this league.

Kilmarnock are the same, flair players in the right areas but solid as a team.

Aberdeen had one style last season. Punt it to the strong forward and if you’ve not got the ball boot the opposition until you’ve got it back.

I think when we get another 2 or 3 in we should be able to more than match that Aberdeen team

[The 90+2]

Yes. We originally thought we could sign him for free. People are acting like we've missed out on some top player to Aberdeen. There will be better out there. I am not excited by a player who won't develop further.

Let’s hope he doesn’t sign then.

[Hibeesmad]

GMS barely kicked a ball for them second half of the season however shinnie is a big miss.

Bryson, Ojo and Hedges are all good signings on paper at least. Main isn’t a goal scorer but is handy and will suit there style of play to a tee.

..............................Lewis............... ...

Logan.....Devlin/Taylor.....McKenna.....Leigh/Considine

............Ferguson.......Ovo........Bryson...... ...

Gallagher/Mclennan/Wright.................................Hedges/McGinn

............................Wilson/ Cosgrove/Main...........

Thats a strong team. It may not be pretty it times but it’s solid defensively and has plenty attacking options.

We had a stronger team under Lennon than that in our first season back in the premiership with a much lower budget at the time.

[Squealing pig]

We got Scott Allan chill out this stoppy defensive midfielder I’d rather we got someone else’s in hindsight

[CapitalGreen]

FWIW I think if Hecky really wanted this player then we would sign him.

Are you suggesting Hecky doesn’t really want him?

[Captain Trips]

Love it. We'll not come to regret this one. He is 27 and at a club like S****horpe for a reason.

Have all our signings that have been made all guys at higher level clubs?

[mcfly]

Look this guy downed tools when he didn’t get his own way. We don’t need players like that.

Aberdeen are welcome to him as he will do the same again when he wants another move. It’s s transfer fee we don’t need to pay.

I’m sure he will get a warm welcome when he comes to Easter road.

[bingo70]

Are you suggesting Hecky doesn’t really want him?

I am guessing he means that if we wanted to push the boat out further to match Aberdeen’s wages we’d have been able to do so but Hecky has chosen not too.

[hfc rd]

Taking the time to read over how Ojo's behaved since the end of last season I'd rather we moved on and tried to bring back Omeonga.

Reading about Ojo brings back too many flashbacks of time under Fenlon and co when we had players turning up for a pay check and not giving one flying F on the pitch.

Not doubting the guy is a good footballer and the type we need in centre mid, but his attitude and behaviour puts me right off him.

May work both ways.

Has a very good season and interest comes in from the likes of Sevco/English championship teams next summer, he may end up behaving the way he done this summer at s****thorpe, we’d probably would be glad that we don’t have that sort of character in the team that thinks he’s bigger than the club and showing disrespect to the manager, players and fans.

If he turns out crap, we will of course have the last laugh.

[Hibeesmad]

Are you suggesting Hecky doesn’t really want him?

I think he did until Ojo went back on his word for an extra few quid. What I’m trying to say is that if Hecky deemed him as a top target then we would have matched whatever Aberdeen are offering.

[Paloschi]

Have all our signings that have been made all guys at higher level clubs?

James is a younger player who can develop. Jackson is a back up and so is Maxwell. Newell and Doidge played in the Championship last season. I am not a fan of picking up players who are playing in lower leagues but in their prime however dont mind if they have potential to develop amd come from a lower league.

[Hibeesmad]

I am guessing he means that if we wanted to push the boat out further to match Aberdeen’s wages we’d have been able to do so but Hecky has chosen not too.

Spot on

[EVENTUALLY]

Bit more from Hecky on it here....

http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2019/07/12/paul-heckingbottom-insists-he-only-wants-players-committed-to-hibs-as-funso-ojo-nears-aberdeen-move-transfer-news/

Good read.
The likelihood of us needing an accomplished defensive midfielder in the side for the upcoming League Cup ties is slim so there is still time to bring in an alternative to Ojo.
In the meantime why not give young Ben Stirling a chance. He has all the physical attributes, has a good temperament and is a decent passer. Sometimes the solution to your problems is right there in front of you.

[Jonnyboy]

We'll he's made an agreement to join, on a pretense regarding his previous contract, hibs revived the deal, then he renaged on the previous deal for more money elsewhere. It doesn't point to a great deal of honesty or integrity.

Sadly this truth is lost on those who prefer to stamp their feet in anger as they post about how ***** we are for 'losing' a player to Aberdeen

[jacomo]

Bit more from Hecky on it here....

http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2019/07/12/paul-heckingbottom-insists-he-only-wants-players-committed-to-hibs-as-funso-ojo-nears-aberdeen-move-transfer-news/


Impressive stuff from the gaffer.

We’ve missed out on a target but if the player has changed his mind then I guess so do we. He was obviously happy with our contract before Aberdeen gazunped us.

Still weeks to go until the English transfer window closes. The season is almost upon us but 6 weeks left to sign players.

[jeffers]

Yep, i agree, but that say accounts for about 200k, their turnover is about 6 million more than ours. What are the other commercial deals that we should be securing? What deals do Aberdeen have in place that we should?

Is it not the case they have a group of businessmen handing over cash? I genuinely dont know.

Commercial deals I don’t know about, but they have been successful in securing outside investment something we haven’t taken advantage of. As well as the American based businessman they also had the coupe who put in roughly £15M to allow them to pay off their debts.

[Allant1981]

It’s not ideal when we keep getting beat to players by Aberdeen but he’s a 27 year old from S****horpe, not exactly in the Steve Archibald from Barca signing is it? I reckon we’re better off not throwing money at this guy, bring back Dylan, that would piss them off 😂

How many other players have they signed that the manager wanted this year?

[1875STEVE]

See I look at that Aberdeen team and think for all the financial power they supposedly have it isn’t that great.

my thoughts exactly.

[007]

Bit more from Hecky on it here....

http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2019/07/12/paul-heckingbottom-insists-he-only-wants-players-committed-to-hibs-as-funso-ojo-nears-aberdeen-move-transfer-news/

Plus the BBC article says we were happy with out pitch/offer which to me means we offered what we thought he was worth. Maybe we don't think he is good enough to be entering into a bidding war for.

[bingo70]

Heckers may also be looking at the bigger picture here in terms of future negotiations. We’re rumoured to have come into a few quid recently, any players or agents thinking about trying to put a squeeze on us will know now we’ll not be pressed into paying too much for a player.

If we’d competed for a player financially with Aberdeen and won it could well have made future negotiations more difficult.

Possibly straw clutching at its very best but I’d rather try to remain positive at this stage of the season. Plenty time for negativity once the season starts properly.

[Torto7]

Sadly this truth is lost on those who prefer to stamp their feet in anger as they post about how ***** we are for 'losing' a player to Aberdeen

Nobody is stamping their feet in anger. Some of us just see it differently. For me it was a chance to get one over on a rival and continue the momentum the club had built up over the summer, that's all.

[tamig]

Nobody is stamping their feet in anger. Some of us just see it differently. For me it was a chance to get one over on a rival and continue the momentum the club had built up over the summer, that's all.

People have been using words like tragic in relation to the Ojo deal and blaming the club for not spending more money to seal the deal. Is that not feet stamping? The boy and his agent were ripping the pish.

[Since452]

Dissapointed in losing out on a player to our main rivals for 3rd but I'll get over it. Sounds like a bad egg anyway to be honest.

[SMAXXA]

The problem with the OJO deal is it’s been played out in the public domain. We will have probably lost out on better players so far this window, we just aren't aware of it. I get it’s worse he’s going to a rival but let’s not let it define our signing strategy and claims of it being a disaster etc, we have a limit, players have a value if we don’t think they are worth breaking that then we need to trust the club.

I get throw in the takeover and subsequent investment will have some expecting is to not be beat to a rival on players but in reality every club has their wage structure and I don’t see our structure changing too much so we can simply beat a rival to a signature so I’m comfortable with the situation. You open a can of worms, we break it for him, then mcnulty, then Omeonga and others want more and more, where does it stop.

We move on, good luck to the boy he has a family no doubt and at present Aberdeen are more appealing on recent history for outperforming Hibs and they have fairly exciting infrastructure plans so I can see the appeal.

[Onceinawhile]

Just seen Bournemouth have signed a player for a wedge of cash. We get more fans through the gate than them. Why are we not spending 20 million on players?

[Jonnyboy]

Nobody is stamping their feet in anger. Some of us just see it differently. For me it was a chance to get one over on a rival and continue the momentum the club had built up over the summer, that's all.


You may not be, but others are

[Nicho87]

The fact he didn’t sign there and then says money grabber. Have fun in Aberdeen ojo.

[BILLYHIBS]

Just seen Bournemouth have signed a player for a wedge of cash. We get more fans through the gate than them. Why are we not spending 20 million on players?

TV Money

EPL wedge

[Stuart93]

TV Money

EPL wedge

I think his question was rhetorical

[Onceinawhile]

TV Money

EPL wedge

Why are we not attracting more than them though?

Disgrace on our commercial departments half Imo.

[tamig]

TV Money

EPL wedge

Lol 😀

[BILLYHIBS]

I think his question was rhetorical

👍🏾😁

[Torto7]

People have been using words like tragic in relation to the Ojo deal and blaming the club for not spending more money to seal the deal. Is that not feet stamping? The boy and his agent were ripping the pish.

Not really it's just an opinion. The club aren't right all the time. Calling it tragic is a tad over the top I'd agree.

[tamig]

Not really it's just an opinion. The club aren't right all the time. Calling it tragic is a tad over the top I'd agree.

I’m glad the club haven’t gone back to match or better Aberdeen’s offer. The pair of them have shown that cash is king in their eyes. A mercenary we could do without.

[660]

I hope whoever we bring in instead of ojo breaks him in half in our first game against that tinpot shower.

[BILLYHIBS]

Why are we not attracting more than them though?

Disgrace on our commercial departments half Imo.

The worm will turn

Good time to be a Hibee

If they don’t want to play for us we don’t want them

Once they do sign we decide if they are HIBS class or not

Not gonna lose any sleep about it 😁

[JohnM1875]

I hope whoever we bring in instead of ojo breaks him in half in our first game against that tinpot shower.

Why though? They guys a professional footballer with no sentiments to Scottish football or either team so it looks like he's signed for the team offering him the most money. Like so many players before have. Football is such a short career so I don't blame him.

And on paper lets be honest, which team will be tipped by most pundits and experts to finish higher up the league? Which team has European football this season? Which team will be paying him more money? Its annoying but that's the reality of it.

We seem to have been able to find a few rare players who have stated in their interviews that they've really bought into the Hecky sales pitch before signing and don't seem to be money orientated. Ojo obviously isn't one of these players. I'm not going to waste my time hating him over it though.

[BILLYHIBS]

Why though? They guys a professional footballer with no sentiments to Scottish football or either team so it looks like he's signed for the team offering him the most money. Like so many players before have. Football is such a short career so I don't blame him.

And on paper lets be honest, which team will be tipped by most pundits and experts to finish higher up the league? Which team has European football this season? Which team will be paying him more money? Its annoying but that's the reality of it.

We seem to have been able to find a few rare players who have stated in their interviews that they've really bought into the Hecky sales pitch before signing and don't seem to be money orientated. Ojo obviously isn't one of these players. I'm not going to waste my time hating him over it though.

👍🏾

Would still break him in half though 😁

[B.H.F.C]

The fact he didn’t sign there and then says money grabber. Have fun in Aberdeen ojo.

I don’t think it does, sadly. They have finished above us and qualified for Europe for the last however many years.

I think they are grim to watch but we rarely beat them.

Chuck in the additional money and it’s not that surprising.

[The Leith Dutch]

Look this guy downed tools when he didn’t get his own way. We don’t need players like that.

Aberdeen are welcome to him as he will do the same again when he wants another move. It’s s transfer fee we don’t need to pay.

I’m sure he will get a warm welcome when he comes to Easter road.

The worry would be that we went in for him with £125k.
If he's not good enough then he shouldn't have been good enough for whatever less than Aberdeen we were offering.

[Ozyhibby]

Why are we not attracting more than them though?

Disgrace on our commercial departments half Imo.

Given that our commercial dept are turning away sponsors and we are no longer taking money from HSL then I think it’s fair to ask why we are losing out on players to Aberdeen?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[sorrow sorrow]

Won’t be anywhere near our level very soon..trust Ron and believe

[The 90+2]

Won’t be anywhere near our level very soon..trust Ron and believe

Far too obvious my friend.

[one day maybe...]

What attributes should a midfield enforcer/holding player have?
Genuine question to the Hibs Net posters.

Be interesting to see some of the replies.

[DetroitHibs]

I
What attributes should a midfield enforcer/holding player have?
Genuine question to the Hibs Net posters.

Be interesting to see some of the replies.

Good solid tackler, link midfield and defense. Be able to read the game and play the easy passes.

[The Harp Awakes]

Bit more from Hecky on it here....

http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2019/07/12/paul-heckingbottom-insists-he-only-wants-players-committed-to-hibs-as-funso-ojo-nears-aberdeen-move-transfer-news/

Don't like the last paragraph. Sounds like we're looking for a combative midfielder and thats it. I think we're short of a striker.

[Onceinawhile]

Given that our commercial dept are turning away sponsors and we are no longer taking money from HSL then I think it’s fair to ask why we are losing out on players to Aberdeen?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes, because hsl and our sponsorship would add up to 5m per year.

Try and find an oil well.

[Ozyhibby]

Yes, because hsl and our sponsorship would add up to 5m per year.

Try and find an oil well.

Fair play, if Aberdeen are paying Funso Ojo an extra £5m a year then there’s no chance we could have signed him.
Still, every little helps and a sponsor might have helped a little bit.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[one day maybe...]

I

Good solid tackler, link midfield and defense. Be able to read the game and play the easy passes.

I think Omeonga could play this role for Hibs... Still only 23, likes to tackle, energetic, tenacious and decent on the ball. Could he perhaps adapt his game to play as a holding midfielder? Cost less than Ojo and has 4 more years in him to develop. Just a thought..

[tonyrougier123]

A rumour on twitter hibs are signing marc roberts CB on loan for a season.source is bcfc fans.

[DetroitHibs]

I think Omeonga could play this role for Hibs... Still only 23, likes to tackle, energetic, tenacious and decent on the ball. Could he perhaps adapt his game to play as a holding midfielder? Cost less than Ojo and has 4 more years in him to develop. Just a thought..

Every chance he could play that role. My concern is that PH didn’t play him there when Milligan was here and then there’s the what if he tries him and he just doesn’t suit the role. We are left without a major piece of the puzzle until January. I’d much rather find someone suited for the role instead, than gamble.

[SHODAN]

A rumour on twitter hibs are signing marc roberts CB on loan for a season.source is bcfc fans.

Don't see the point of this signing, and I suspect in any case it probably isn't true.

[WellingtonHibby]

Given that our commercial dept are turning away sponsors and we are no longer taking money from HSL then I think it’s fair to ask why we are losing out on players to Aberdeen?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Do you know both of those things to be true or are you guessing?

[tonyrougier123]

Don't see the point of this signing, and I suspect in any case it probably isn't true.

Just posting the rumour bud.the interesting point though is he played under hecky at barnsley so we might think we are covered centrally but on loan no risk involved,so not totally inconceivable imo.

[one day maybe...]

Every chance he could play that role. My concern is that PH didn’t play him there when Milligan was here and then there’s the what if he tries him and he just doesn’t suit the role. We are left without a major piece of the puzzle until January. I’d much rather find someone suited for the role instead, than gamble.

If he could be disciplined and understand the role I think he would be just what we are missing. 5"10" dynamic in his approach to the game, doesn't go missing. I was thinking about Gattuso who played for the club formerly know as The Rangers and the impact he had there and then later with Milan & Italy. Both the same height and Gattuso developed that role later in his career. Just a thought.

[Unseen work]

Can’t imagine the Roberts rumour being true, we already have 4 very good options at centre half. It is literally the last position we need.

Defensive/centre mid x 2
Striker
Pacey winger (as I don’t see Newell as an out and out winger. One injury to Boyle or Horgan and we’re struggling)

I think

Omeonga plus another unknown defensive mid who will be a starter
Mcnulty
Pacey winger on loan.

[Ozyhibby]

Do you know both of those things to be true or are you guessing?

Yes.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[tonyrougier123]

Can’t imagine the Roberts rumour being true, we already have 4 very good options at centre half. It is literally the last position we need.

Defensive/centre mid x 2
Striker
Pacey winger (as I don’t see Newell as an out and out winger. One injury to Boyle or Horgan and we’re struggling)

Porto will be be a wee bit off naw?

Daz and paul get injured ur struggling in there.happened last season when porto got a run with efe.
Think other areas needed more aswell.
But I wouldnt rule out another cb.

Hecky might want to play 3 at the back.

[Unseen work]

Porto will be be a wee bit off naw?

Daz and paul get injured ur struggling in there.happened last season when porto got a run with efe.
Think other areas needed more aswell.
But I wouldnt rule out another cb.

Hecky might want to play 3 at the back.

True, the more i think about it I really don’t get how Daz got a 4 year deal. I don’t get why they incorporated the player mentor and player within the same contract?

On defensive mids, would anyone take Aaron Tshibola? Last year of his contract and was a key part of Killies success last year.

[bigwheel]

True, the more i think about it I really don’t get how Daz got a 4 year deal. I don’t get why they incorporated the player mentor and player within the same contract?

On defensive mids, would anyone take Aaron Tshibola? Last year of his contract and was a key part of Killies success last year.

Was simply to give him an ongoing role at the club - no playing commitments made - could be coaching, could be ambassadorial...thought it was a great touch - good to see people who care about the club being kept around the place....

[bingo70]

True, the more i think about it I really don’t get how Daz got a 4 year deal. I don’t get why they incorporated the player mentor and player within the same contract?

On defensive mids, would anyone take Aaron Tshibola? Last year of his contract and was a key part of Killies success last year.

I always thought that Tshibola was pretty rubbish whenever I saw him last season.

Can’t argue with how well Killie did though so maybe he was better or more effective than he looked.

[S4uzee]

I

Good solid tackler, link midfield and defense. Be able to read the game and play the easy passes.

Mark Milligan?

[Robbo6-2]

Mark Milligan?

Milligan with more legs

[jax67]

Milligan with more legs

Millipedigan.

[J-C]

Given that our commercial dept are turning away sponsors and we are no longer taking money from HSL then I think it’s fair to ask why we are losing out on players to Aberdeen?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


We lost out on this player because circumstances changed, we ended up making a £125k offer plus a wage packed we thought was favourable for this player, Aberdeen offered more, we felt what we offered was enough for this particular player. We're not going to just up our offer just to get one over Aberdeen, Hecky has stated he only wants players who want to be here, not mercenaries just out for the cash.

[J-C]

Porto will be be a wee bit off naw?

Daz and paul get injured ur struggling in there.happened last season when porto got a run with efe.
Think other areas needed more aswell.
But I wouldnt rule out another cb.

Hecky might want to play 3 at the back.


Young lad Sadiki will step up, highly thought of. Hecky said in his interview that Ryan will join in with training this week but is a month or so behind everyone, it'll not take him long to catch up.

[DetroitHibs]

Mark Milligan?

Was exposed when we played teams with pace.

[Tug Wilson]

So we got into a bidding war with Aberdeen over Ojo.

With any auction you have to know your limit. What you can afford. What the item is worth to you. Can you get the same elsewhere for less. When to stop bidding.

No point winning the bidding just for the sake of it.

Buyer's regret they call it.

You don't worry about the other guy outbidding you. They have weighed up the factors as they see it and bid more. Or they have panicked and overspent.

Time will tell who got the good deal.

Too much angst on here with people using it to have a kick at the club. Probably the same people who would have been on here having a go about signing some no mark from S****horpe if the original deal had quietly gone through without the circus that ensued.

Get a grip.

[Ray_]

So we got into a bidding war with Aberdeen over Ojo.

With any auction you have to know your limit. What you can afford. What the item is worth to you. Can you get the same elsewhere for less. When to stop bidding.

No point winning the bidding just for the sake of it.

Buyer's regret they call it.

You don't worry about the other guy outbidding you. They have weighed up the factors as they see it and bid more. Or they have panicked and overspent.

Time will tell who got the good deal.

Too much angst on here with people using it to have a kick at the club. Probably the same people who would have been on here having a go about signing some no mark from S****horpe if the original deal had quietly gone through without the circus that ensued.

Get a grip.

Not saying I'd agree with it, but just to put out a counter-argument, with Aberdeen finishing higher in the league than us every year during this decade ambition could be put in the mix, but with a new chairman that brought a positivity and debt free environment plus the added HSL contribution, with our bigger crowds, better infrastructure and the fact 12 first team squad players have left since the end of last season, I suppose the final league position will be the decisive indicator.

[Borderhibbie76]

Good read.
The likelihood of us needing an accomplished defensive midfielder in the side for the upcoming League Cup ties is slim so there is still time to bring in an alternative to Ojo.
In the meantime why not give young Ben Stirling a chance. He has all the physical attributes, has a good temperament and is a decent passer. Sometimes the solution to your problems is right there in front of you.Agreed....in the cold light of day is hes chosen Aberdeen over us because of money well quite frankly Hecky is spot on...we dont want him here. He is clearly all about chasing the £££ unlike some of our other summer signings who have turned down more cash to sign for us (Doidge and James). We now need to move on to other targets and forget him but we really need a midfielder or 2 in the next 3 weeks before the league begins

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

[DetroitHibs]

Need another forward too. Don't want to be in the same situation last season with just three forwards. Shaw as a back up just doesn't fill me with confidence or seems like a player that can change a game for you.

[southsider]

Anyone know the situation with Brandon Barker ? Was reported Celtic were interested but that appears to have gone cold. 1 Year left at City with no chance of 1st team football there. Is he available to go out on loan ? Would love it if he came back here.

[Hibernian Verse]

Anyone know the situation with Brandon Barker ? Was reported Celtic were interested but that appears to have gone cold. 1 Year left at City with no chance of 1st team football there. Is he available to go out on loan ? Would love it if he came back here.

He's on record saying he won't ever be back. Sure it was in a DM to a fan.

[Greenworld]

We lost out on this player because circumstances changed, we ended up making a £125k offer plus a wage packed we thought was favourable for this player, Aberdeen offered more, we felt what we offered was enough for this particular player. We're not going to just up our offer just to get one over Aberdeen, Hecky has stated he only wants players who want to be here, not mercenaries just out for the cash.Correct and funny how this player is the only one played out in the press.
It's actually good that Hibs have said that's our offer take it or leave it.
Everyone knows there's a few extra quid at Easter road now but that does not mean getting into a Dutch auction over a player only Aberdeen and Hibs seem to want?


Sent from my SM-G903F using Tapatalk

[Peevemor]

Has Ojo to Aberdeen been confirmed yet?

In any case I have no problem with him talking to different clubs. He'd be daft not to.

[Speedway]

Correct and funny how this player is the only one played out in the press.
It's actually good that Hibs have said that's our offer take it or leave it.
Everyone knows there's a few extra quid at Easter road now but that does not mean getting into a Dutch auction over a player only Aberdeen and Hibs seem to want?


Sent from my SM-G903F using Tapatalk

What’s a Dutch auction?

[Tarrahib]

If I was Ojo sitting in my Aberdeen hotel this morning still trying to make my mind up what to team to sign for I think reading all the guff that's been written on here since news of the story was given out late yesterday afternoon would tip the balance in the Aberdeen direction.
If he does not want to sign for us that's his decision .I am sure Hecky would not be disappointed if he never came now because as he said he only wants players to buy into his plans.

[southsider]

What’s a Dutch auction?
Its a way of selling in which the price keeps going down until a buyer is found.

[B.H.F.C]

If I was Ojo sitting in my Aberdeen hotel this morning still trying to make my mind up what to team to sign for I think reading all the guff that's been written on here since news of the story was given out late yesterday afternoon would tip the balance in the Aberdeen direction.
If he does not want to sign for us that's his decision .I am sure Hecky would not be disappointed if he never came now because as he said he only wants players to buy into his plans.

I think more money and European football might be more of a deciding factor in fairness.

[brog]

So we got into a bidding war with Aberdeen over Ojo.

With any auction you have to know your limit. What you can afford. What the item is worth to you. Can you get the same elsewhere for less. When to stop bidding.

No point winning the bidding just for the sake of it.

Buyer's regret they call it.

You don't worry about the other guy outbidding you. They have weighed up the factors as they see it and bid more. Or they have panicked and overspent.

Time will tell who got the good deal.

Too much angst on here with people using it to have a kick at the club. Probably the same people who would have been on here having a go about signing some no mark from S****horpe if the original deal had quietly gone through without the circus that ensued.

Get a grip.

Spot on. It's incredible how people who hadn't heard of this guy a few weeks ago are now intimately knowledgeable about every aspect of our offer for him. As for his agent playing a blinder, right! Because he's no longer a free transfer every penny the Sheep pay to Scunny is a penny less to Ojo. Time will tell.