Summer 2019 transfer thread

[neil7908]

These sort of deals happen all the time.

Just so happens this one was made public very early doors.

Wouldn't lose any sleep over it and we move on.

Very true. It's highly likely Aberdeen and others have beaten us to many targets over the years. That's just football but it's still sore seeing it all played out in the press.

We are under a bit of pressure now to get a defensive midfielder quickly as we look very light in the middle of the park and the season starts in less than 3 weeks. We'll also know that whoever comes in is the clubs second choice.

Not much we as fans can do except have a moan but it is frustrating.

[brog]

we are all allowed our opinion's. I was there on Saturday and the team display was embarrassing. Absolute crap. And all this s***
that people are coming out with about players being tired!

You're not allowed to put an apostrophe in opinions! LTYF!:greengrin

[green day]

Very true. It's highly likely Aberdeen and others have beaten us to many targets over the years. That's just football but it's still sore seeing it all played out in the press.

We are under a bit of pressure now to get a defensive midfielder quickly as we look very light in the middle of the park and the season starts in less than 3 weeks. We'll also know that whoever comes in is the clubs second choice.

Not much we as fans can do except have a moan but it is frustrating.

Not necessarily, we dont know if Ojo was our first, second or third choice. I imagine that there are a number of players that fit the bill and then they are whittled down.

Ojo wont be the only one we were looking at.

[BILLYHIBS]

Maybe the recruitment team need to cast their net wider than the English lower leagues

PH has already hinted that he will tap the loans market

The world is our oyster

Big Ron I am sure will push the boat out if the right player that fits our profile comes along

Patience guys

Forgot Ojo already. :greengrin

[Heisenberg]

we are all allowed our opinion's. I was there on Saturday and the team display was embarrassing. Absolute crap. And all this s***
that people are coming out with about players being tired!

I didn’t say you weren’t allowed your opinion. I just disagree and think it’s ridiculous.

[Barman Stanton]

If the mood on this forum is anything to go by I really hate to see what the atmosphere is going to be like if things don't go our way in games. You can just sense the grumblings and moaning at one misplaced pass or shot.

When did we become so privileged as a support? We have played one competitive game only a couple of weeks after getting back to training. We have half a team of new players who are still gelling. We still have a key player to buy in midfield who will let the others play more. A bit of patience is needed.

[Wilson]

If the mood on this forum is anything to go by I really hate to see what the atmosphere is going to be like if things don't go our way in games. You can just sense the grumblings and moaning at one misplaced pass or shot.

When did we become so privileged as a support? We have played one competitive game only a couple of weeks after getting back to training. We have half a team of new players who are still gelling. We still have a key player to buy in midfield who will let the others play more. A bit of patience is needed.

A lot of the picture you are painting applies to us and everyone else. New players. Lack of games. Only just back in training...

Patience is fine but let's not wheel out lame excuses. We were poor against Stirling and we shouldn't have been.

We have to up our game on the park and in our transfer dealings.

[Ozyhibby]

If the mood on this forum is anything to go by I really hate to see what the atmosphere is going to be like if things don't go our way in games. You can just sense the grumblings and moaning at one misplaced pass or shot.

When did we become so privileged as a support? We have played one competitive game only a couple of weeks after getting back to training. We have half a team of new players who are still gelling. We still have a key player to buy in midfield who will let the others play more. A bit of patience is needed.

The frustration is coming because the players we have signed so far don’t look like first team players, they mostly (not Allan) look like back ups.
I think that’s very understandable. Our recruitment last summer was poor and so far this summer it’s not looking great. Still time to turn it around.


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[Hibeewilly]

Kilmarnock apparently in talks to take Thomas Agyepong on loan according to BBC gossip column/Daily Express

[Billy Whizz]

Kilmarnock apparently in talks to take Thomas Agyepong on loan according to BBC gossip column/Daily Express

Playing on a plastic pitch every 2nd week, is not what Tam’s hammy’s really need

[Barman Stanton]

A lot of the picture you are painting applies to us and everyone else. New players. Lack of games. Only just back in training...

Patience is fine but let's not wheel out lame excuses. We were poor against Stirling and we shouldn't have been.

We have to up our game on the park and in our transfer dealings.

These are not lame excuses. They are facts. Different players take different times to settle in at a club. Murphy was called useless after his first game. The outrage on here over a draw is ridiculous. And I have said on another post, but the noisy minority of moaners on here has people leaving the forum.

[Barman Stanton]

The frustration is coming because the players we have signed so far don’t look like first team players, they mostly (not Allan) look like back ups.
I think that’s very understandable. Our recruitment last summer was poor and so far this summer it’s not looking great. Still time to turn it around.


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I get that. But moaning over and over again on the forum is not going to change that. I'm concerned as well but personally I will give them a bit of time to bed in before calling them all useless.

[J-C]

Maybe the recruitment team need to cast their net wider than the English lower leagues

PH has already hinted that he will tap the loans market

The world is our oyster

Big Ron I am sure will push the boat out if the right player that fits our profile comes along

Patience guys

Forgot Ojo already. :greengrin

Oneonga - Genoa, Kamberi - Grasshoppers. I think most of these players are me from our managers players list.

[CockneyRebel]

The Chairman and then the Agent

Played us like a fiddle


Unfortunately, that's an agent's job. I hate them with a passion but if I was a football pro then I would have one.

[BILLYHIBS]

Oneonga - Genoa, Kamberi - Grasshoppers. I think most of these players are me from our managers players list.
:agree:

Yip need to keep going back to the well

Confident we can get better than Ojo for a fair wage

[brog]

If the mood on this forum is anything to go by I really hate to see what the atmosphere is going to be like if things don't go our way in games. You can just sense the grumblings and moaning at one misplaced pass or shot.

When did we become so privileged as a support? We have played one competitive game only a couple of weeks after getting back to training. We have half a team of new players who are still gelling. We still have a key player to buy in midfield who will let the others play more. A bit of patience is needed.


It's a good point & I think it really goes back to the upsurge in our crowds after that day & the commensurate increase in expectations. It sounds ridiculous now but only 3 years ago, just a few weeks before 21/5/16, we played in front of less than 10k in our final home league game of the season. Even the play off vs Falkirk only attracted about 12k, now we expect to sell that number of season tickets! We've attracted new supporters, obviously a good thing, but some of these pesky kids haven't yet realised they need to know their place! :agree:
Seriously, there's a balance to be struck between patience/reality & impatience/delusion. Older posters, self included, are probably too much of the former. Recent converts/additions to our support saw a Cup win, a Championship win & a race for 2nd/European football in successive seasons. Last season, especially after being 2nd in mid October was a bit of a cold bath & TBH, other than the home win over Celtc & away at Tiny there was a dearth of excitement & entertainment from October onwards.
It still doesn't excuse people posting in apparent self satisfaction when we concede a goal though! :wink:

[Wakeyhibee]

It's a good point & I think it really goes back to the upsurge in our crowds after that day & the commensurate increase in expectations. It sounds ridiculous now but only 3 years ago, just a few weeks before 21/5/16, we played in front of less than 10k in our final home league game of the season. Even the play off vs Falkirk only attracted about 12k, now we expect to sell that number of season tickets! We've attracted new supporters, obviously a good thing, but some of these pesky kids haven't yet realised they need to know their place! :agree:
Seriously, there's a balance to be struck between patience/reality & impatience/delusion. Older posters, self included, are probably too much of the former. Recent converts/additions to our support saw a Cup win, a Championship win & a race for 2nd/European football in successive seasons. Last season, especially after being 2nd in mid October was a bit of a cold bath & TBH, other than the home win over Celtc & away at Tiny there was a dearth of excitement & entertainment from October onwards.
It still doesn't excuse people posting in apparent self satisfaction when we concede a goal though! :wink:

The takeover and cash injection has raised these expectations further than this IMO. We used to do most of our business late August.

[Ozyhibby]

It's a good point & I think it really goes back to the upsurge in our crowds after that day & the commensurate increase in expectations. It sounds ridiculous now but only 3 years ago, just a few weeks before 21/5/16, we played in front of less than 10k in our final home league game of the season. Even the play off vs Falkirk only attracted about 12k, now we expect to sell that number of season tickets! We've attracted new supporters, obviously a good thing, but some of these pesky kids haven't yet realised they need to know their place! :agree:
Seriously, there's a balance to be struck between patience/reality & impatience/delusion. Older posters, self included, are probably too much of the former. Recent converts/additions to our support saw a Cup win, a Championship win & a race for 2nd/European football in successive seasons. Last season, especially after being 2nd in mid October was a bit of a cold bath & TBH, other than the home win over Celtc & away at Tiny there was a dearth of excitement & entertainment from October onwards.
It still doesn't excuse people posting in apparent self satisfaction when we concede a goal though! :wink:

Is our place be below Kilmarnock? Yes, we have lots of returning fans that have put a lot of extra money into the club. We need to start seeing that on the pitch, up there competing with Aberdeen. I think we have only finished above them once in 10 years. That is totally unacceptable considering we have a bigger fan base. It’s time the club stepped up. Have they done that so far this summer? Not so far, most of the signings look like squad players or worse.


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[Barman Stanton]

It's a good point & I think it really goes back to the upsurge in our crowds after that day & the commensurate increase in expectations. It sounds ridiculous now but only 3 years ago, just a few weeks before 21/5/16, we played in front of less than 10k in our final home league game of the season. Even the play off vs Falkirk only attracted about 12k, now we expect to sell that number of season tickets! We've attracted new supporters, obviously a good thing, but some of these pesky kids haven't yet realised they need to know their place! :agree:
Seriously, there's a balance to be struck between patience/reality & impatience/delusion. Older posters, self included, are probably too much of the former. Recent converts/additions to our support saw a Cup win, a Championship win & a race for 2nd/European football in successive seasons. Last season, especially after being 2nd in mid October was a bit of a cold bath & TBH, other than the home win over Celtc & away at Tiny there was a dearth of excitement & entertainment from October onwards.
It still doesn't excuse people posting in apparent self satisfaction when we concede a goal though! :wink:

This is when I put it down to as well. We now have an extra 6k at home games who were not there when things were bad. The reality is these are the good times being a Hibs fan.

And yeah, there are people who have never been happy with the Hecky appointment and seem desperate to be proven right. Problem is that the social media negativity (The facebook pages are probably even worse than here) spreads its way into the ground as well. These new players are going to be given no time at all and people will be on their backs after one mistake.

[JimBHibees]

Is our place be below Kilmarnock? Yes, we have lots of returning fans that have put a lot of extra money into the club. We need to start seeing that on the pitch, up there competing with Aberdeen. I think we have only finished above them once in 10 years. That is totally unacceptable considering we have a bigger fan base. It’s time the club stepped up. Have they done that so far this summer? Not so far, most of the signings look like squad players or worse.


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New signings take time to settle in especially during pre-season when loads of rotation and physical overload going on.

[we are hibs]

This learn our place chat is brutal. People shouldn't be lamented for being ambitious. Neither should they for having high standards. Just because we were ***** this year or that year 5 , 10, 20 or 30 years ago doesn't mean we should just accept it and not strive for better. This football club is capable of becoming at least the third biggest and best club in Scotland. It would be tough but it's not impossible. Why shouldn't we want that and demand that? Why should we just accept a trophy every 10/15/20 years instead of every 3,4 or 5?

[Barman Stanton]

Is our place be below Kilmarnock? Yes, we have lots of returning fans that have put a lot of extra money into the club. We need to start seeing that on the pitch, up there competing with Aberdeen. I think we have only finished above them once in 10 years. That is totally unacceptable considering we have a bigger fan base. It’s time the club stepped up. Have they done that so far this summer? Not so far, most of the signings look like squad players or worse.


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I would imagine our wage budget is way higher than Kilmarnocks. They had a very good manager and have been punching about their weight the last couple of years. That happens at times. Prior to that, well we were in freefall which resulted in 3 years in the Championship, so its not really a surprise they have mostly been above us. The manager is being backed, whether he is buying the right players is another question though.

[The_Horde]

:agree:

Yip need to keep going back to the well

Confident we can get better than Ojo for a fair wage

Even someone on par with him but who actually wants to be here and not just for the money would be good.

[Barman Stanton]

This learn our place chat is brutal. People shouldn't be lamented for being ambitious. Neither should they for having high standards. Just because we were ***** this year or that year 5 , 10, 20 or 30 years ago doesn't mean we should just accept it and not strive for better. This football club is capable of becoming at least the third biggest and best club in Scotland. It would be tough but it's not impossible. Why shouldn't we want that and demand that? Why should we just accept a trophy every 10/15/20 years instead of every 3,4 or 5?

We all want to be at the top. But we have no given right to be there. Hecky is buying players he thinks are good enough. That still remains to be seen. The toys out the pram over a crap result is unreal. Sometimes in life things don't always go your way.

[BSEJVT]

Is our place be below Kilmarnock? Yes, we have lots of returning fans that have put a lot of extra money into the club. We need to start seeing that on the pitch, up there competing with Aberdeen. I think we have only finished above them once in 10 years. That is totally unacceptable considering we have a bigger fan base. It’s time the club stepped up. Have they done that so far this summer? Not so far, most of the signings look like squad players or worse.


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I am not sure that that is entirely fair.

IMO Lennon left us squad wise in a terrible position, both numbers and quality wise and by the time we are done I reckon we will sign around 10 players, with the majority being permanent signings.

Even though some of these have been on freedom of contract, permanent signings cost far more than Lennon's endless loans on signing on fees and we will be picking up all their wages, not just part of them as is the case with some loanees.

My expectation is that our signings from now on will be, at least on paper, of far greater quality and pretty much like the team and performances I will give them all at least until the end of September before rushing to judgement on anything.

There is absolutely no evidence that the takeover has put more monies in the managers pocket this season, indeed he has confirmed that he is working to the same budget as before, so it may be next season before we see the benefit of the loan being repaid.

Very early days for folk to be getting as worked up about things as they are

[Hibbyradge]

The Chairman and then the Agent

Played us like a fiddle

No, the club didn't do anything wrong.

They agreed teens with us.

The player changed his mind after being offered more by Aberdeen.

[Ozyhibby]

I would imagine our wage budget is way higher than Kilmarnocks. They had a very good manager and have been punching about their weight the last couple of years. That happens at times. Prior to that, well we were in freefall which resulted in 3 years in the Championship, so its not really a surprise they have mostly been above us. The manager is being backed, whether he is buying the right players is another question though.

Recruitement was poor last season. I made it 6 out of the 15 signings was a success.
Is this year looking any better?
I think that is something that seriously needs looked at. There has to be accountability.


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[BILLYHIBS]

No, the club didn't do anything wrong.

They agreed teens with us.

The player changed his mind after being offered more by Aberdeen.

:agree:

Never said the club did anything wrong

Agree with the rest though

[hibbie02]

If the mood on this forum is anything to go by I really hate to see what the atmosphere is going to be like if things don't go our way in games. You can just sense the grumblings and moaning at one misplaced pass or shot.

When did we become so privileged as a support? We have played one competitive game only a couple of weeks after getting back to training. We have half a team of new players who are still gelling. We still have a key player to buy in midfield who will let the others play more. A bit of patience is needed.

Our Development Team should be good enough to be a part time Stirling team, also having their first competitive match of the season. The fact that the First Team (squad) only managed a draw is where I see the problem. We should have no excuses. We have a number of our regulars to come back in soon, which provides some encouragement, but I don't see any of the new guys as an improvement to what we had last season as a first team. We had a few duds in the squad though. So we know where the gaps are in the squad, so I am hoping that those are filled by players of a higher calibre than we have brought in so far, even if on loan. Next season, I would expect the high calibre players coming in on permy deals.

[Since452]

I am not sure that that is entirely fair.

IMO Lennon left us squad wise in a terrible position, both numbers and quality wise and by the time we are done I reckon we will sign around 10 players, with the majority being permanent signings.

Even though some of these have been on freedom of contract, permanent signings cost far more than Lennon's endless loans on signing on fees and we will be picking up all their wages, not just part of them as is the case with some loanees.

My expectation is that our signings from now on will be, at least on paper, of far greater quality and pretty much like the team and performances I will give them all at least until the end of September before rushing to judgement on anything.

There is absolutely no evidence that the takeover has put more monies in the managers pocket this season, indeed he has confirmed that he is working to the same budget as before, so it may be next season before we see the benefit of the loan being repaid.

Very early days for folk to be getting as worked up about things as they are

Completey agree. Lennon left an absolute mess which Heckingbottom is still trying to sort. Clearly wasn't giving a toss for quite a while.

[B.H.F.C]

Completey agree. Lennon left an absolute mess which Heckingbottom is still trying to sort. Clearly wasn't giving a toss for quite a while.

I don’t disagree with that, to an extent.

However, based on what we have seen so far, if you were to pick your strongest team with everyone available, it would pretty much all be players Heckingbottom inherited from Lennon.

The only one of the new signing who is pretty much guaranteed to play is Allan, who wasn’t signed by Heckingbottom.

[Barman Stanton]

Recruitement was poor last season. I made it 6 out of the 15 signings was a success.
Is this year looking any better?
I think that is something that seriously needs looked at. There has to be accountability.


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But that's the reality of the market we are in unfortunately. We cannot afford to buy proven Premiership players etc. The market we find ourselves in is as much to do with the crazy tv deals the likes of England get than anything else. So we have to find up and coming players from lower leagues etc. They wont all be a success. Some people need a reality check here.

[BILLYHIBS]

No, the club didn't do anything wrong.

They agreed teens with us.

The player changed his mind after being offered more by Aberdeen.

Sorry I was responding to another poster who said the Chairman of Scunny “ put it out there” in the public domain I added his Agent who was acting in his clients best interests to create a market place and a public auction for his client.

Effectively we did Derek McInnes scouting for him and ended up getting gazumped


It became a moral question but if you had agreed to join an employer and then another employer comes along and offers you 2.5k ( hypothethetical) more a month what would you do?

[SMAXXA]

Any transfer news?

[Ozyhibby]

But that's the reality of the market we are in unfortunately. We cannot afford to buy proven Premiership players etc. The market we find ourselves in is as much to do with the crazy tv deals the likes of England get than anything else. So we have to find up and coming players from lower leagues etc. They wont all be a success. Some people need a reality check here.

The reality is our recruitment looks like it is failing again.


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[Barman Stanton]

The reality is our recruitment looks like it is failing again.


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None of us know that yet. And that's the reality. You can throw the toys out the pram all you like. I will let them settle in and see them for handful of competitive games before making such a judgement.

F***, what were you like when we were relegated!?

[SquashedFrogg]

The reality is our recruitment looks like it is failing again.


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Based on?

[Fergus52]

I think we need at least 2 central midfielders, a striker and a winger.

2 decent midfielders to play with Allan, a winger to compete properly with Horgan and Boyle, a first-choice striker who is better than Doidge and Kamberi.

The goalkeeper and defence from last season are fine, Porteous and Jackson to compete for places and James as back-up.

I can't see us getting top six this year as I don't believe Hibs think we're as short as we actually are, but we will go into January with a deficient squad that needs serious work to salvage our season yet again. You don't need to be far off to be losing points all over the place (see the last 2 seasons where a couple of smart Janury signings turned our fortunes around massively).

The nature of the signings we have made so far is that they will be hit or miss. One will probably thrive, a few will be ok, one will stink the place out. I think Heckingbottom has underestimated how difficult it is to get top 4 and I think we are going to be a good bit short of the quality required to get in there. We're much better than the poorest teams in the league but will be scrapping out somewhere in the middle.

Allan is the only player to come in who looks like a definite starter, we need a few more of those.

You really think we'll miss out on top 6 behind hearts, Killie and St Johnstone or Motherwell??

[Ringothedog]

The reality is our recruitment looks like it is failing again.


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We don’t know that and will not know if it’s failed for a few months. If it has failed it will be too late and if it’s not we will wonder what all the fuss has been about

[Beefster]

The reality is our recruitment looks like it is failing again.


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You are relentlessly negative about Hibs. It’s borderline odd tbh.

[Allant1981]

The reality is our recruitment looks like it is failing again.


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Based on 1 competitive game?

[matty_f]

The reality is our recruitment looks like it is failing again.


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That’s not reality, it’s an opinion. It’s far too early to say if the recruitment has been good or bad at this stage.

[Hibernian32]

Tommy Agyepong linked with Killie
Plastic pitches & sketchy injury record won't go down well.

[Robbo6-2]

The reality is our recruitment looks like it is failing again.


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Take a day off

[The 90+2]

Completey agree. Lennon left an absolute mess which Heckingbottom is still trying to sort. Clearly wasn't giving a toss for quite a while.

I’m not sure how you can say that exactly when “sorting the mess” is bringing in players who many won’t get into the first 11.

[Moody Blues]

I didn’t say you weren’t allowed your opinion. I just disagree and think it’s ridiculous.

What's ridiculous, just because you disagree, you don't have to patronise other posters opinions.
I will say it again for you benefit, I went on Saturday and Hibs were p**h poor and none of the new guys looked very good.

[The 90+2]

You really think we'll miss out on top 6 behind hearts, Killie and St Johnstone or Motherwell??

We almost did last season and there’s been very little evidence of any improvement. It’s touch and go at this stage.

[matty_f]

I’m not sure how you can say that exactly when “sorting the mess” is bringing in players who many won’t get into the first 11.

How do you know they won’t? Heckingbottom said he wasn’t using the games just now to field his strongest eleven and was using them for fitness while getting some competitive action into the team.

Folk are totally jumping the gun with this.

[DarlingtonHibee]

The reality is our recruitment looks like it is failing again.


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What is your background on recruitment?

I worked for a ftse 100 company, and one in three was the rate

[GloryGlory]

Tommy Agyepong linked with Killie
Plastic pitches & sketchy injury record won't go down well.

I thought Killie were digging up their pitch and reinstalling a grass one?

[J-C]

The reality is our recruitment looks like it is failing again.


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You do realise the manager has final say in all transfers, to me it looks like most of the players brought in are ones already known to Heckingbottom, we do don't know if he has an eye for a player yet. At the moment the jury is out re the manager and his signings.

[hughio]

Any transfer news?

There were some snippets in weekend press about our being linked with James Morrison and Charlie Mulgrew.
I expected to learn summit on here about that.

Anyone?
:cb

[The 90+2]

How do you know they won’t? Heckingbottom said he wasn’t using the games just now to field his strongest eleven and was using them for fitness while getting some competitive action into the team.

Folk are totally jumping the gun with this.

Many people don’t have many if any of the new guys in first 11. There’s not much indication that any of the new signings are as good as never mind better than the “mess Lennon left”

I’m not saying for one minute they are all ***** either, there’s just no indication yet that any of Lennons mess has been sorted at all.

Did he say that about Saturday? I didn’t see that sorry.

[DarlingtonHibee]

There were some snippets in weekend press about our being linked with James Morrison and Charlie Mulgrew.
I expected to learn summit on here about that.

Anyone?
:cb

We are nowhere near their wage demand

[matty_f]

Many people don’t have many if any of the new guys in first 11. There’s not much indication that any of the new signings are as good as never mind better than the “mess Lennon left”

I’m not saying for one minute they are all ***** either, there’s just no indication yet that any of Lennons mess has been sorted at all.

Did he say that about Saturday? I didn’t see that sorry.

He did, was the Hibs TV interview after the Carlisle game iirc.

[munchar]

How do you know they won’t? Heckingbottom said he wasn’t using the games just now to field his strongest eleven and was using them for fitness while getting some competitive action into the team.

Folk are totally jumping the gun with this.

I find that astonishing to be fair. Using a major cup competition to get players fit? IMO he put out players that he thought would be good enough to beat Stirling. On the day they were gash!

[The 90+2]

He did, was the Hibs TV interview after the Carlisle game iirc.

Yeah I seen that one, how delighted he was to get back to competitive action on a Saturday which is why that’s so disappointing for me, it was a chance for his new signings to put down a marker and show what they can do but it failed spectacularly.

[hhibs]

This learn our place chat is brutal. People shouldn't be lamented for being ambitious. Neither should they for having high standards. Just because we were ***** this year or that year 5 , 10, 20 or 30 years ago doesn't mean we should just accept it and not strive for better. This football club is capable of becoming at least the third biggest and best club in Scotland. It would be tough but it's not impossible. Why shouldn't we want that and demand that? Why should we just accept a trophy every 10/15/20 years instead of every 3,4 or 5?



Well said that man.

[matty_f]

I find that astonishing to be fair. Using a major cup competition to get players fit? IMO he put out players that he thought would be good enough to beat Stirling. On the day they were gash!

Yeah they should have won.

It’s hardly astonishing - manager uses very early season match against lower league players to get team’s fitness levels up.

We’ll progress from the group regardless imho. That’s all that matters when going for a major cup.

Stubbs lost a season opener against Rangers 6-2 (iirc) and we went in to win the cup. We also lost to St Mirren in a competitive pre-season cup game.

Everyone lost their **** when we conceded goals to a team from the Faroes (even though we scored 12, i think) in a pre-season competitive game.

Folk over-react to games like this. Yes, it was an awful early and trees, the performance was rubbish and some players looked like they weren’t ready for the season yet - surprisingly that’s because they’re not.

Which is the case with the vast majority of teams up and down the country.

[DarlingtonHibee]

Yeah I seen that one, how delighted he was to get back to competitive action on a Saturday which is why that’s so disappointing for me, it was a chance for his new signings to put down a marker and show what they can do but it failed spectacularly.

First competitive game, failed spectacularly....


🙄

[matty_f]

Yeah I seen that one, how delighted he was to get back to competitive action on a Saturday which is why that’s so disappointing for me, it was a chance for his new signings to put down a marker and show what they can do but it failed spectacularly.

Do you remember the context of why he was delighted to get back to competitive action?

[The 90+2]

First competitive game, failed spectacularly....


🙄

Yes, we drew with a part team league two side.

[Springbank]

Yeah I seen that one, how delighted he was to get back to competitive action on a Saturday which is why that’s so disappointing for me, it was a chance for his new signings to put down a marker and show what they can do but it failed spectacularly.

In recent years we have/had changed our recruitment from the Bad Old Days, the 2007-2014 era, when as a support we all learned the hard way that lower league English players will often underestimate the standard and the commitment/focus/professionalism required to succeed in Scotland's top flight.

No-one wants a return to those days.

The signing of Scott Allan, a talented Scots baller with a point to prove, is what we are all about as a club.

The concern is that the early impressions of Newell/Doidge etc are they need to step up, currently looking more like driftwood than drivers, and that's a real concern with a rude awakening at Ibrox on the horizon if they're not given the message. Back to the Bad Old Days? Let's hope not.

Let's hope Saturday brings a significant improvement on what has gone before, as summer 2019 has not looked great so far.

[hughio]

He did, was the Hibs TV interview after the Carlisle game iirc.
I'm sure you are right...but there may be family reasons or other stuff we don't know about that might persuade an older player to want a return to his homeland...

[matty_f]

Yes, we drew with a part team league two side.

Brendan Rogers lost to a Maltese team in his first competitive match but went through in the tie and qualified for the Champions League.

Was that first result important in the scheme of things?

[The 90+2]

Do you remember the context of why he was delighted to get back to competitive action?

“I’m delighted, I’ll be right up for Saturday he’s not a fan of ore-season friendlies and now there’s none until Newcastle”

[DarlingtonHibee]

Yes, we drew with a part team league two side.

First game for me is St Mirren

[ScottB]

Buying players that will land and deliver straight away is damn hard.

Look at Barcelona, blew quarter of a billion odd on Dembele and Coutinho, universally agreed top players, but have they been good buys for Barca? No they have not. How many players for how much money have Man Utd rattled through post Fergie that have also failed to live up to what was hoped for them?

It's not a case of money then, is it? So while we swim in a much different sea than those two clubs, the same is still true. Every signing is a gamble, a calculated gamble, but a gamble nonetheless. We'd hope to hit a decent ratio of successes to failure of course, and if we don't then questions need to be asked of our set up, but expecting every signing, or even almost every signing, to turn up and command a starting slot from day one is probably unrealistic.

[MyJo]

Many people don’t have many if any of the new guys in first 11. There’s not much indication that any of the new signings are as good as never mind better than the “mess Lennon left”

I’m not saying for one minute they are all ***** either, there’s just no indication yet that any of Lennons mess has been sorted at all.

Did he say that about Saturday? I didn’t see that sorry.

I would have Doidge up front alongside Kamberi and Jackson ahead of Hanlon at centre half at the moment.

James probably wouldn't be in ahead of a fully fit Gray or Stevenson at full back yet but he's had a decent pre-season and shown he is more than capable in those positions given Gray is likely to miss games with his injuries.

Newell has been disappointing so far and I hope its just the pace and intensity of the Scottish game that has caught him off guard and it's taking time for him to adjust. Either way he's going to have his work cut out for him trying to oust Horgan and Boyle barring injuries.

Maxwell's only on loan as back-up and competition for our number 1 and done not bad since coming in - probably at fault for one goal against Dunfermline but Marciano's also had a howler when he played so can't really hold it against him too much.

[brog]

This learn our place chat is brutal. People shouldn't be lamented for being ambitious. Neither should they for having high standards. Just because we were ***** this year or that year 5 , 10, 20 or 30 years ago doesn't mean we should just accept it and not strive for better. This football club is capable of becoming at least the third biggest and best club in Scotland. It would be tough but it's not impossible. Why shouldn't we want that and demand that? Why should we just accept a trophy every 10/15/20 years instead of every 3,4 or 5?

My comment about pesky kids knowing their place was completely tongue in cheek. I even added a smiley for emphasis. I haven't seen any other posts saying that. I agree we should be ambitious. My hopes/expectations are very much in line with our new owner's, target 3rd place to start then use that as a springboard for more.

[James Stephen]

People really need to get some perspective and calm down.

It was a bad performance and result, but it happens, particularly in pre season / early season when things are still settling.

We may be good or bad this season, but Saturday's match is almost certainly not the predictor of either.

[Steven79]

I would have Doidge up front alongside Kamberi and Jackson ahead of Hanlon at centre half at the moment.

James probably wouldn't be in ahead of a fully fit Gray or Stevenson at full back yet but he's had a decent pre-season and shown he is more than capable in those positions given Gray is likely to miss games with his injuries.

Newell has been disappointing so far and I hope its just the pace and intensity of the Scottish game that has caught him off guard and it's taking time for him to adjust. Either way he's going to have his work cut out for him trying to oust Horgan and Boyle barring injuries.

Maxwell's only on loan as back-up and competition for our number 1 and done not bad since coming in - probably at fault for one goal against Dunfermline but Marciano's also had a howler when he played so can't really hold it against him too much.

If the Stirling players caught him off guard then I don't hold much hope of him doing anything at Ibrox or Celtic Park...

[Unseen work]

Jesus folk are getting right worked up about the new signings already.

Bare in mind we lost what 11 first team players at the end of the season? We know there needs to be a massive overhaul. With some of them being squad players or competing for a starting 11 place.

Bartley
Milligan
Bigirama
Darnell Johnson
Mcnulty
Omeomga
Spector
Laidlaw
Nelom
Bogdan
Gauld
Lewis Allan

How many of them players were important for us? 3/4? McNulty, Omeonga, Milligan and Bogdan. 2 of the above are strongly linked with coming back and our manager managed to guide us to 5th after a great run at the end of the season.

Weve brought in 6 new players by the start of July, were nowhere near finished in our transfer activiry and we still need to allow the new guys to get up to speed on the park, it’s really not as easy as folk think. I think their first home game and seeing the crowd wil get the best out of them.

My opinions on them so far

Allan - On his day one of the best, great signing.

James - Much needed competition for Gray with his injury problems. Very composed which I think some fans take as not trying. Seems very good technically and will play a big part in creating goals

Newell - We knew he would be hot and cold, he’s said himself he’s not a winger and is used to playing left of a 3/a diamond. Get him on the ball and I’m confident he will create and play well. If he’s out on the wing I’m not sure he will influence games enough. Rotherham fans said he can change games in a second, something we never had last season

Jackson - Seems solid and will provide good competition

Doidge - Fantastic work rate, will be a nightmare for defenders and seems good at holding and linking play. Gets on the end of a lot of crosses or balls in the air.

Maxwell - Solid Competition for Rocky

The best players we get will come in nearer the end of the window I imagine. 2 centre mids, a winger on loan from a premiership team and a striker.

Fed up of folk calling Heckingbottom our already when it’s July. He turned round our season last season with his game plans and tactics, one we start the league and he’s olaying his starting 11 we will see that properly.

[worcesterhibby]

In recent years we have/had changed our recruitment from the Bad Old Days, the 2007-2014 era, when as a support we all learned the hard way that lower league English players will often underestimate the standard and the commitment/focus/professionalism required to succeed in Scotland's top flight.

No-one wants a return to those days.

The signing of Scott Allan, a talented Scots baller with a point to prove, is what we are all about as a club.

The concern is that the early impressions of Newell/Doidge etc are they need to step up, currently looking more like driftwood than drivers, and that's a real concern with a rude awakening at Ibrox on the horizon if they're not given the message. Back to the Bad Old Days? Let's hope not.

Let's hope Saturday brings a significant improvement on what has gone before, as summer 2019 has not looked great so far.

I'm not sure that's fair. Admittedly Newell has looked off the pace so far..but Doidge has looked a good player, that works hard, sets others up and can score goals. By all accounts Adam Jackson has played very solidly so far and seems to have slotted in to the defence nicely. Our problem seems to be in Midfield where we have let two defensive players go and have been frustrated by the Ojo to Aberdeen thing. It's perfectly obvious that we are trying to get McNulty and Omeonga back which would be positive, if we can add at least one if not two midfielders with some Dig, as well then the squad would look pretty solid.

REAL 1st teamers

Marciano

Hanlon
Stevenson
McGregor
Porteous
Jackson
Gray

Allan
Boyle
Horgan
Omeonga
Mallan
Murray
New guy with dig !
ANOTHER new guy with dig

Kamberi
Doidge
McNulty

Squad players

Maxwell

Whitts
James
Mackie

Slivka
Newell

Shaw

The next 2 or 3 signing are key. I think the pressure to deliver Omeonga and McNulty has increased due to the Ojo mess, let's hope we can make it happen or find similar.

[CmoantheHibs]

There were some snippets in weekend press about our being linked with James Morrison and Charlie Mulgrew.
I expected to learn summit on here about that.

Anyone?
:cb
Kenny Miller said on Twitter that we weren't interested in Morrison. Think both are just made up press junk

[The 90+2]

I would have Doidge up front alongside Kamberi and Jackson ahead of Hanlon at centre half at the moment.

James probably wouldn't be in ahead of a fully fit Gray or Stevenson at full back yet but he's had a decent pre-season and shown he is more than capable in those positions given Gray is likely to miss games with his injuries.

Newell has been disappointing so far and I hope its just the pace and intensity of the Scottish game that has caught him off guard and it's taking time for him to adjust. Either way he's going to have his work cut out for him trying to oust Horgan and Boyle barring injuries.

Maxwell's only on loan as back-up and competition for our number 1 and done not bad since coming in - probably at fault for one goal against Dunfermline but Marciano's also had a howler when he played so can't really hold it against him too much.

I would pretty much agree with that assessment to be honest, it’s all like for like as it stands though and not vast improvement in the positions the players have came in to play as was indicated with “cleaning up lennons mess” (Allan aside) I accept it would be impossible almost to replace Ambrose and very difficult to replace McNulty or Omeonga but as it stands I reckon we are poorer than the squad was at the end of January and that squad was 6th at best.

[MWHIBBIES]

Doidge offered more than Allan on Saturday imo. His finishing was rubbish but otherwise he done not bad. On another day he scores 2

[neil7908]

Jesus folk are getting right worked up about the new signings already.

Bare in mind we lost what 11 first team players at the end of the season? We know there needs to be a massive overhaul. With some of them being squad players or competing for a starting 11 place.

Bartley
Milligan
Bigirama
Darnell Johnson
Mcnulty
Omeomga
Spector
Laidlaw
Nelom
Bogdan
Gauld
Lewis Allan

How many of them players were important for us? 3/4? McNulty, Omeonga, Milligan and Bogdan. 2 of the above are strongly linked with coming back and our manager managed to guide us to 5th after a great run at the end of the season.

Weve brought in 6 new players by the start of July, were nowhere near finished in our transfer activiry and we still need to allow the new guys to get up to speed on the park, it’s really not as easy as folk think. I think their first home game and seeing the crowd wil get the best out of them.

My opinions on them so far

Allan - On his day one of the best, great signing.

James - Much needed competition for Gray with his injury problems. Very composed which I think some fans take as not trying. Seems very good technically and will play a big part in creating goals

Newell - We knew he would be hot and cold, he’s said himself he’s not a winger and is used to playing left of a 3/a diamond. Get him on the ball and I’m confident he will create and play well. If he’s out on the wing I’m not sure he will influence games enough. Rotherham fans said he can change games in a second, something we never had last season

Jackson - Seems solid and will provide good competition

Doidge - Fantastic work rate, will be a nightmare for defenders and seems good at holding and linking play. Gets on the end of a lot of crosses or balls in the air.

Maxwell - Solid Competition for Rocky

The best players we get will come in nearer the end of the window I imagine. 2 centre mids, a winger on loan from a premiership team and a striker.

Fed up of folk calling Heckingbottom our already when it’s July. He turned round our season last season with his game plans and tactics, one we start the league and he’s olaying his starting 11 we will see that properly.

I've not seen much of pre season but this seems fair.

Newell appears to be the only one who has been consistently below what is expected but its very early days. I think its also worth remembering what Rotherham fans said about him. He sounded a bit mercurial and did something great one week then anonymous the next.

Our goal must be to bring out more from him but he's a player I went in knowing what to expect.

[matty_f]

I've not seen much of pre season but this seems fair.

Newell appears to be the only one who has been consistently below what is expected but its very early days. I think its also worth remembering what Rotherham fans said about him. He sounded a bit mercurial and did something great one week then anonymous the next.

Our goal must be to bring out more from him but he's a player I went in knowing what to expect.

I think Heckingbottom made the point that Newell isn't an out and out winger and he sees him playing at his best when he's 'tucked in' one position, so if folk were of a mind to give him the benefit of the doubt (weird idea, but let's go with it) you could say that being short of match fitness and played out of his best position with unfamiliar players might not have shown him in his best light.

To be fair, if the Carlisle game had been our first look at Rocky, folk would be questioning his quality/signing.

[bingo70]

My concern is that people are (quite rightly) trying to justify why these new signings might not look as bad as they were at first look, there’s a big difference between might not be that bad to being brilliant.

I don’t want signings that aren’t that bad, I want them to excite me and I want them to be brilliant players that’ll improve the side.

Think Jackson looked better than the others on Saturday but I don’t see any of them being brilliant for us, even if they do get better than they were on Saturday.

[matty_f]

My concern is that people are (quite rightly) trying to justify why these new signings might not look as bad as they were at first look, there’s a big difference between might not be that bad to being brilliant.

I don’t want signings that aren’t that bad, I want them to excite me and I want them to be brilliant players that’ll improve the side.

Think Jackson looked better than the others on Saturday but I don’t see any of them being brilliant for us, even if they do get better than they were on Saturday.

I'm trying to make the point that these early games are too early to either write them off or get carried away about how good they are.

[flash]

I'm trying to make the point that these early games are too early to either write them off or get carried away about how good they are.

Good luck with that one.

[matty_f]

Good luck with that one.

God loves a trier, apparently!

[bigswissstriker]

I'm not sure that's fair. Admittedly Newell has looked off the pace so far..but Doidge has looked a good player, that works hard, sets others up and can score goals. By all accounts Adam Jackson has played very solidly so far and seems to have slotted in to the defence nicely. Our problem seems to be in Midfield where we have let two defensive players go and have been frustrated by the Ojo to Aberdeen thing. It's perfectly obvious that we are trying to get McNulty and Omeonga back which would be positive, if we can add at least one if not two midfielders with some Dig, as well then the squad would look pretty solid.

REAL 1st teamers

Marciano

Hanlon
Stevenson
McGregor
Porteous
Jackson
Gray

Allan
Boyle
Horgan
Omeonga
Mallan
Murray
New guy with dig !
ANOTHER new guy with dig

Kamberi
Doidge
McNulty

Squad players

Maxwell

Whitts
James
Mackie

Slivka
Newell

Shaw

The next 2 or 3 signing are key. I think the pressure to deliver Omeonga and McNulty has increased due to the Ojo mess, let's hope we can make it happen or find similar.

I don’t get where it’s come from that James will be a squad player. He will be first choice right back and folk better get used to not seeing David gray starting.

Of course I’ve got major respect for David gray and his role at the club. But at the end of the day is he really the best we can get or have ? Time will tell if James is the guy to better him, but there’s no way on earth he’s come up here on the proviso he won’t start most games

[The 90+2]

I don’t get where it’s come from that James will be a squad player. He will be first choice right back and folk better get used to not seeing David gray starting.

Of course I’ve got major respect for David gray and his role at the club. But at the end of the day is he really the best we can get or have ? Time will tell if James is the guy to better him, but there’s no way on earth he’s come up here on the proviso he won’t start most games

Gray is still a fantastic player and leader for us.

[bigswissstriker]

Gray is still a fantastic player and leader for us.

Not disputing that, but his injury record leaves a lot to be desired and he’s certainly not irreplaceable m. I just feel a few hibs fans think the likes of Hanlon, Lewis and gray are untouchable. If we have better options then they shouldn’t play. Simple as

[worcesterhibby]

I don’t get where it’s come from that James will be a squad player. He will be first choice right back and folk better get used to not seeing David gray starting.

Of course I’ve got major respect for David gray and his role at the club. But at the end of the day is he really the best we can get or have ? Time will tell if James is the guy to better him, but there’s no way on earth he’s come up here on the proviso he won’t start most games

Fair point, I would still have DG ahead of him, but happy to move James up into the the 1st team regular group.

[The 90+2]

Not disputing that, but his injury record leaves a lot to be desired and he’s certainly not irreplaceable m. I just feel a few hibs fans think the likes of Hanlon, Lewis and gray are untouchable. If we have better options then they shouldn’t play. Simple as

I hear what you’re saying and it’s a very good point you make and also the point that James wouldn’t have come up hear to be understudy BUT he has to show he’s better that David Gray to oust him from the side. For me, when fit he’s one of the first on the team sheet. It’s also going to be universally unpopular to replace Gray or Lewis with players not as good or can’t bring extra to the side. Is James that player? It remains to be seen I suppose.

[bigswissstriker]

Fair point, I would still have DG ahead of him, but happy to move James up into the the 1st team regular group.

Yeah I’ve only seen one game (Dunfermline) and on that showing I’d probably start gray. But I’m hoping they all improve big time

[04Sauzee]

3 trialists named in the development squad to play Newcastle this afternoon

[Shrekko]

Doidge looks like the sort of striker we’ve been crying out for. Sure the goals will come.

[The 90+2]

Did Doidge play up top on his own for Forrest Green?

[Smartie]

Not disputing that, but his injury record leaves a lot to be desired and he’s certainly not irreplaceable m. I just feel a few hibs fans think the likes of Hanlon, Lewis and gray are untouchable. If we have better options then they shouldn’t play. Simple as

Hanlon, Lewis and Gray aren't untouchable but they are difficult to improve upon on our budget. They also make up the strongest part of our team.

Loyalty only goes so far, any of us would happily see them replaced with better, if it came along.

I have high hopes for Doidge, I think he'll work out fine.

The midfield is what we all need to be concerned about. It wasn't good enough last season and looks to be much weaker this season. As I see it we have upgraded Mallan to Allan but still have 2 spots up for grabs. I have a horrible feeling we're going to piss about getting overrun week after week with Allan and Mallan in there and have to wait until January in order to address the problem that should have been the first one solved this summer, long before we start arguing about our solid, but ageing defence.

[BILLYHIBS]

S****horpe sign Cameroonian Yann Songo a DM on a free transfer from Plymouth Argyle
Songo made 17 appearances scored 3 on loan from Blackburn Rovers to Ross County in 2014

[MyJo]

My concern is that people are (quite rightly) trying to justify why these new signings might not look as bad as they were at first look, there’s a big difference between might not be that bad to being brilliant.

I don’t want signings that aren’t that bad, I want them to excite me and I want them to be brilliant players that’ll improve the side.

Think Jackson looked better than the others on Saturday but I don’t see any of them being brilliant for us, even if they do get better than they were on Saturday.

Very few of our best players in recent years have come in and been brilliant from day one.

Equally a lot of players that have started brightly and looked like brilliant signings have faded very quickly and turned out to be terrible.

[Torto7]

Any names for the trialists with the u23's?

[Hermit Crab]

Any names for the trialists with the u23's?


A Sample

[hibbyfraelibby]

Still early days into the season

Loads of time to bring in new recruits

I am convinced we can recruit better than Ojo for the package we were offering him

A couple of Marquee signings will push STs through the roof

Loads of water to run under the bridge between now and the St Mirren game

Flo might be away for 2m SJM might be at Man Utd?

Who knew?

Who wants to live in Aberdeen play in a delapidated out of date stadium and play a rotten brand of non football anyway?

The futures bright the futures green and white

What's a "Marquee Signing"...are we looking for big tents or what?

[My_Wife_Camille]

What's a "Marquee Signing"...are we looking for big tents or what?
A marquee player is an athlete who is considered exceptionally popular, skilled, or otherwise outstanding, especially in professional sports.[1] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquee_player#cite_note-1) Its name comes from theater marquees (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquee_(structure)), on which the names of the stars of productions in said theater are often emblazoned in order to draw spectators. Several sports leagues have specific definitions and rules regarding the designation and treatment of marquee players.

[blackpoolhibs]

Jesus folk are getting right worked up about the new signings already.

Bare in mind we lost what 11 first team players at the end of the season? We know there needs to be a massive overhaul. With some of them being squad players or competing for a starting 11 place.

Bartley
Milligan
Bigirama
Darnell Johnson
Mcnulty
Omeomga
Spector
Laidlaw
Nelom
Bogdan
Gauld
Lewis Allan

How many of them players were important for us? 3/4? McNulty, Omeonga, Milligan and Bogdan. 2 of the above are strongly linked with coming back and our manager managed to guide us to 5th after a great run at the end of the season.

Weve brought in 6 new players by the start of July, were nowhere near finished in our transfer activiry and we still need to allow the new guys to get up to speed on the park, it’s really not as easy as folk think. I think their first home game and seeing the crowd wil get the best out of them.

My opinions on them so far

Allan - On his day one of the best, great signing.

James - Much needed competition for Gray with his injury problems. Very composed which I think some fans take as not trying. Seems very good technically and will play a big part in creating goals

Newell - We knew he would be hot and cold, he’s said himself he’s not a winger and is used to playing left of a 3/a diamond. Get him on the ball and I’m confident he will create and play well. If he’s out on the wing I’m not sure he will influence games enough. Rotherham fans said he can change games in a second, something we never had last season

Jackson - Seems solid and will provide good competition

Doidge - Fantastic work rate, will be a nightmare for defenders and seems good at holding and linking play. Gets on the end of a lot of crosses or balls in the air.

Maxwell - Solid Competition for Rocky

The best players we get will come in nearer the end of the window I imagine. 2 centre mids, a winger on loan from a premiership team and a striker.

Fed up of folk calling Heckingbottom our already when it’s July. He turned round our season last season with his game plans and tactics, one we start the league and he’s olaying his starting 11 we will see that properly.

:whistle::whistle::worms:

[BILLYHIBS]

What's a "Marquee Signing"...are we looking for big tents or what?

Dunno?

Must be a Liberton saying just came into ma heid! :greengrin

Thank you MWC!

[hibbyfraelibby]

A marquee player is an athlete who is considered exceptionally popular, skilled, or otherwise outstanding, especially in professional sports.[1] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquee_player#cite_note-1) Its name comes from theater marquees (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquee_(structure)), on which the names of the stars of productions in said theater are often emblazoned in order to draw spectators. Several sports leagues have specific definitions and rules regarding the designation and treatment of marquee players.
I give up...

[bigswissstriker]

Hanlon, Lewis and Gray aren't untouchable but they are difficult to improve upon on our budget. They also make up the strongest part of our team.

Loyalty only goes so far, any of us would happily see them replaced with better, if it came along.

I have high hopes for Doidge, I think he'll work out fine.

The midfield is what we all need to be concerned about. It wasn't good enough last season and looks to be much weaker this season. As I see it we have upgraded Mallan to Allan but still have 2 spots up for grabs. I have a horrible feeling we're going to piss about getting overrun week after week with Allan and Mallan in there and have to wait until January in order to address the problem that should have been the first one solved this summer, long before we start arguing about our solid, but ageing defence.

We do definitely need a holding mid in pronto. If we don’t have one for St Mirren it’s a huge failure from the club In my eyes. God forbid we don’t actually sign one at all, I’d hate to see some of the results that will come our way and where we may end up.

Personally, I think Allan, mallan and a solid holding mid is a great midfield trio. Allan with his vision, mallan with the goals and hopefully a holding mid who can let them both do what they do best.

[SquashedFrogg]

We do definitely need a holding mid in pronto. If we don’t have one for St Mirren it’s a huge failure from the club In my eyes. God forbid we don’t actually sign one at all, I’d hate to see some of the results that will come our way and where we may end up.

Personally, I think Allan, mallan and a solid holding mid is a great midfield trio. Allan with his vision, mallan with the goals and hopefully a holding mid who can let them both do what they do best.

What if we have targetted a really good holding mid who won't commit until after we play St Mirren? Would that be failure?

[Franck Stanton]

Jesus folk are getting right worked up about the new signings already.

Bare in mind we lost what 11 first team players at the end of the season? We know there needs to be a massive overhaul. With some of them being squad players or competing for a starting 11 place.

Bartley
Milligan
Bigirama
Darnell Johnson
Mcnulty
Omeomga
Spector
Laidlaw
Nelom
Bogdan
Gauld
Lewis Allan

How many of them players were important for us? 3/4? McNulty, Omeonga, Milligan and Bogdan. 2 of the above are strongly linked with coming back and our manager managed to guide us to 5th after a great run at the end of the season.

Weve brought in 6 new players by the start of July, were nowhere near finished in our transfer activiry and we still need to allow the new guys to get up to speed on the park, it’s really not as easy as folk think. I think their first home game and seeing the crowd wil get the best out of them.

My opinions on them so far

Allan - On his day one of the best, great signing.

James - Much needed competition for Gray with his injury problems. Very composed which I think some fans take as not trying. Seems very good technically and will play a big part in creating goals

Newell - We knew he would be hot and cold, he’s said himself he’s not a winger and is used to playing left of a 3/a diamond. Get him on the ball and I’m confident he will create and play well. If he’s out on the wing I’m not sure he will influence games enough. Rotherham fans said he can change games in a second, something we never had last season

Jackson - Seems solid and will provide good competition

Doidge - Fantastic work rate, will be a nightmare for defenders and seems good at holding and linking play. Gets on the end of a lot of crosses or balls in the air.

Maxwell - Solid Competition for Rocky

The best players we get will come in nearer the end of the window I imagine. 2 centre mids, a winger on loan from a premiership team and a striker.

Fed up of folk calling Heckingbottom our already when it’s July. He turned round our season last season with his game plans and tactics, one we start the league and he’s olaying his starting 11 we will see that properly.

Good post. Sums up how I feel about the new guys as well. Well said.

[Hermit Crab]

That boy Djoum may have been a good holding mid player for us.

[Franck Stanton]

I think Heckingbottom made the point that Newell isn't an out and out winger and he sees him playing at his best when he's 'tucked in' one position, so if folk were of a mind to give him the benefit of the doubt (weird idea, but let's go with it) you could say that being short of match fitness and played out of his best position with unfamiliar players might not have shown him in his best light.

To be fair, if the Carlisle game had been our first look at Rocky, folk would be questioning his quality/signing.

Swap places with Horgan as the out & out winger and Newell left midield.

[The 90+2]

That boy Djoum may have been a good holding mid player for us.

Is he not away playing in China?

[Hermit Crab]

Is he not away playing in China?


Aye, he's buggered off to Saudi Arabia or something.

[The Wireless]

A marquee player is an athlete who is considered exceptionally popular, skilled, or otherwise outstanding, especially in professional sports.[1] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquee_player#cite_note-1) Its name comes from theater marquees (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquee_(structure)), on which the names of the stars of productions in said theater are often emblazoned in order to draw spectators. Several sports leagues have specific definitions and rules regarding the designation and treatment of marquee players.
Well that’s you told:flag:

[Paisley Hibby]

Doidge looks like the sort of striker we’ve been crying out for. Sure the goals will come.

Hope so. It's worth remembering the start Simon Murray had 2 seasons ago. Scored for fun in friendlies and the League Cup but then it all went wrong. Hopefully Doidge will do the opposite.

[erin go bragh]

That boy Djoum may have been a good holding mid player for us.

Nah . Would be disappointed if we signed him .
Heart of a mouse .

[The 90+2]

Hope so. It's worth remembering the start Simon Murray had 2 seasons ago. Scored for fun in friendlies and the League Cup but then it all went wrong. Hopefully Doidge will do the opposite.

Bit harsh on Murray saying it went all wrong to be honest.

[Onceinawhile]

Bit harsh on Murray saying it went all wrong to be honest.

Scored a winner v hearts is hardly all gone wrong really!

[AlbertK86]

This is when I put it down to as well. We now have an extra 6k at home games who were not there when things were bad. The reality is these are the good times being a Hibs fan.

And yeah, there are people who have never been happy with the Hecky appointment and seem desperate to be proven right. Problem is that the social media negativity (The facebook pages are probably even worse than here) spreads its way into the ground as well. These new players are going to be given no time at all and people will be on their backs after one mistake.

Great post .... the moaning on here and social media 100% filters it’s way to the players and affects performance.

Just like booing the players during the game.

Total negative and adverse reaction


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[hibbyfraelibby]

Well that’s you told:flag:

I believe he inTENTionately didn't get it. He can't be that stupid can he?

[Here’s Lucy!]

Scored a winner v hearts is hardly all gone wrong really!

:flag: What I thought too...

[BILLYHIBS]

Scored a winner v hearts is hardly all gone wrong really!

Peach tae!

Nuts oan Soapy Soutar and right high in tae the onion bag

Keeper nae chance

GIRFUY! 😁

[BILLYHIBS]

I believe he inTENTionately didn't get it. He can't be that stupid can he?

Uh oh!

[Hibernia&Alba]

Arsenal supposedly tried to do a hun deal and spread the cost over various different instalments.

Poor form, if true. Huge EPL club ; £25 million is nothing to them. Pay up properly or do one.

[My_Wife_Camille]

I believe he inTENTionately didn't get it. He can't be that stupid can he?
did you just assume my gender?

[Unseen work]

https://youtu.be/TuTLC3CrDIY

The trialist from the 23s game looks absolutely rapid

[chippy]

https://youtu.be/TuTLC3CrDIY

The trialist from the 23s game looks absolutely rapid

Any sign of McInness in the bushes?

[Bob Box Fish]

https://youtu.be/TuTLC3CrDIY

The trialist from the 23s game looks absolutely rapid

Hopefully Newells replacement ?:wink:

[Unseen work]

Any sign of McInness in the bushes?

No however I did feel someone touch something within me.....I thought nothing of it till now.

I hope you understand the reference if not :duck:

[SMAXXA]

We seriously lack pace in our squad

[Paisley Hibby]

Bit harsh on Murray saying it went all wrong to be honest.

Don't think so. He was on fire and then he just couldn't score and his confidence was shot - maybe as a result of Lennon's legendary man management skills - out on loan to Dundee then sold....hardly a huge success?

[Iggy Pope]

Scored a winner v hearts is hardly all gone wrong really!

Fine goal in a win at Ibrox as well.

[chippy]

https://youtu.be/TuTLC3CrDIY

The trialist from the 23s game looks absolutely rapid

Any sign of McInness in the bushes?

[MWHIBBIES]

Poor form, if true. Huge EPL club ; £25 million is nothing to them. Pay up properly or do one.

Literally how every big transfer is done, you think 25 million just moves between bank accounts overnight? He's a young player with a poor injury record, of course Arsenal are wanting some performances related addons.

[Smartie]

We seriously lack pace in our squad

Boyle and Horgan are very quick.

Scott Allan has a lovely burst of pace to take him away from a player.

I wouldn't have described any of our defenders as slow.

Not sure about any of the new boys.

Pace is good and we could probably do with a bit more, but we can pick a team that has just about enough pace where we need it.

[PatHead]

Literally how every big transfer is done, you think 25 million just moves between bank accounts overnight? He's a young player with a poor injury record, of course Arsenal are wanting some performances related addons.

All depends on the conditions and initial payment. If the initial payment was say 5m with extra conditions including winning the Premiership and Champions league then Celtic are right to knock it back.

[Captain Trips]

Hope so. It's worth remembering the start Simon Murray had 2 seasons ago. Scored for fun in friendlies and the League Cup but then it all went wrong. Hopefully Doidge will do the opposite.

Hmmmm seemed to be going OK from my memory quite a raw talent with big heart whom NL dropped when IMO he should have kept going with him.

[The 90+2]

Don't think so. He was on fire and then he just couldn't score and his confidence was shot - maybe as a result of Lennon's legendary man management skills - out on loan to Dundee then sold....hardly a huge success?

I don’t think his confidence was shot at all, he just struggled to get into a good team. He wasn’t a huge success if course not but I wouldn’t put him down as a failure either.

[number9dream]

....

The midfield is what we all need to be concerned about. It wasn't good enough last season and looks to be much weaker this season. As I see it we have upgraded Mallan to Allan but still have 2 spots up for grabs. I have a horrible feeling we're going to piss about getting overrun week after week with Allan and Mallan in there and have to wait until January in order to address the problem that should have been the first one solved this summer, long before we start arguing about our solid, but ageing defence.

This is where I’m at... 4-3-3 is the go to formation these days but we’ll need a helluva player to put in the hard yards alongside Allan & Mallan.
Look at Rangers with Jack, Davis & Kamara the other day - all ball winners focused on getting possession back quickly and feeding the front men. Was the same at Killie under Clarke, three workhorses, although Mulumbu has a bit of class as well - like Kamara. Similar at Aberdeen in the middle of the Park.
Of course, it doesn’t need to be all about graft. The McGeouch, McGinn, Allan axis was successful because they were all accomplished at retaining possession at a good tempo.

[Speedway]

We got our signings in early.

We have money to spend

We have no rumours swirling about who we’re after

We’re looking at trialists.

Does this suggest that all of our first choices outside McNulty and Omeonga are signed?

[worcesterhibby]

We got our signings in early.

We have money to spend

We have no rumours swirling about who we’re after

We’re looking at trialists.

Does this suggest that all of our first choices outside McNulty and Omeonga are signed?


We got some of our signings in early

There were no rumours about any of the players we signed up till now

Why shouldn't we look at Trialists ?

Getting the right players takes time no matter how much cash you have...look at Barcelona and Real Madrid and Man Utd and Arsenal...all still trying to bring in players and struggling to get deals done.

[hfc rd]

Agyepong to Kilmarnock on loan

[1875Sean]

Agyepong to Kilmarnock on loan

Hope they have good medical staff

[matty_f]

Agyepong to Kilmarnock on loan

I’d have liked him back here.

[K-Zazu]

Agyepong to Kilmarnock on loan

What’s the chances he plays almost every game scores assists the lot?

[Since452]

Agyepong to Kilmarnock on loan

On the plastic pitch? He'll not finish the warm up

[The 90+2]

I’d have liked him back here.

I heard he was the most talented player in the squad on the training park when fit. If it didn’t cost the club much then so would have I.

[The 90+2]

What’s the chances he plays almost every game scores assists the lot?

If he does then he will be at Ibrox permanently by January.

[Ozyhibby]

On the plastic pitch? He'll not finish the warm up

There is no evidence that plastic pitches cause more injuries.


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[Greenworld]

We got our signings in early.

We have money to spend

We have no rumours swirling about who we’re after

We’re looking at trialists.

Does this suggest that all of our first choices outside McNulty and Omeonga are signed?No it does not and I would like us to spend big on filling that no 6 role does Frank suzee no fancy a comeback.
Seriously though two positions that should be given everything we can through at it is centre forward and holding mid

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[hibbyfraelibby]

did you just assume my gender?

You're ok...I have one of my own thanks so no need to assume yours.

[MWHIBBIES]

There is no evidence that plastic pitches cause more injuries.


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Na but they are worse for existing niggles because its a harder landing. Also an unpredictable surface at times, ball can bounce funny causing twisted ankles etc.

[Borderhibbie76]

I'm.concerned at Heckys comments post match on Sat that it's only midfield that we are short in...as I deffo think another striker is required too.

Im hoping its maybe because hes holding out hope of McNulty coming back but will be really disappointed if we dont bring in 1 more striker

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[Wheat Hound]

https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1151067700447211527?s=19

Gauld stays in Portugal. One of the most disappointing signings we've ever had after all the initial excitement.

[CapitalGreen]

I'm.concerned at Heckys comments post match on Sat that it's only midfield that we are short in...as I deffo think another striker is required too.

Im hoping its maybe because hes holding out hope of McNulty coming back but will be really disappointed if we dont bring in 1 more striker

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We are still working on McNulty plus have a winger from Bristol City currently on trial so it is definitely not the case that the squad is complete with the exception of midfield. I think it’s fairly obvious that what a manager says in interview is often not what they think in reality.

[Speedway]

You're ok...I have one of my own thanks so no need to assume yours.

:greengrin

[Lago]

https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1151067700447211527?s=19

Gauld stays in Portugal. One of the most disappointing signings we've ever had after all the initial excitement.

Instantly forgotten.

[we are hibs]

We will have at least one midfielder in by the Elgin cup game.

[K-Zazu]

Instantly forgotten.

What a waste of a career

[tonyrougier123]

We are still working on McNulty plus have a winger from Bristol City currently on trial so it is definitely not the case that the squad is complete with the exception of midfield. I think it’s fairly obvious that what a manager says in interview is often not what they think in reality.

Really recruitment has been poor again this summer.in terms of what we needed and what we got in so far.

It doesn't sound as though many of the new signings will dislodge any players already at the club.

Wee steph should be an absolute priority with another DM,CM,FWD and maybe even another CB.

Hopefully not another january patchwork job.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

We will have at least one midfielder in by the Elgin cup game.

I hope you mean Alloa pal!

[Brightside]

Really recruitment has been poor again this summer.in terms of what we needed and what we got in so far.

It doesn't sound as though many of the new signings will dislodge any players already at the club.

Wee steph should be an absolute priority with another DM,CM,FWD and maybe even another CB.

Hopefully not another january patchwork job.

Before the last 2 games this board was full of everyone saying what an amazing window we have had?

[flash]

Really recruitment has been poor again this summer.in terms of what we needed and what we got in so far.

It doesn't sound as though many of the new signings will dislodge any players already at the club.

Wee steph should be an absolute priority with another DM,CM,FWD and maybe even another CB.

Hopefully not another january patchwork job.

Far too early to tell.

[Since452]

https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1151067700447211527?s=19

Gauld stays in Portugal. One of the most disappointing signings we've ever had after all the initial excitement.

Another who left Scottish football too soon initially

[Since452]

I hope you mean Alloa pal!

So do i

[tonyrougier123]

Far too early to tell.

Your right its early to say for sure,and ive not seen them live the new guys yet.
But its no sounding good from far too many on here to not be some concern already about recruitment.and not all of them will be wrong.

[flash]

Your right its early to say for sure,and ive not seen them live the new guys yet.
But its no sounding good from far too many on here to not be some concern already about recruitment.and not all of them will be wrong.

If the new players turn out to be fine then every single person who has written them off will be wrong.

[The 90+2]

Another who left Scottish football too soon initially

Who are the others?

[we are hibs]

I hope you mean Alloa pal!

I'm not trying to be ITK or that but I was told that we are willing to hold out until then for a midfielder. We are also apparently looking for someone to fit into a 3 in midfield as opposed to a "defensive midfielder" like a Bartley or Milligan who screen the defence. Was also said hibs are slightly more confident about Omeonga returning as theyve been given some encouragement about a deal but that may drag on until later in the window.


Might be true might be pish but it's a rumour thread after all 🤷*♂️

[tonyrougier123]

If the new players turn out to be fine then every single person who has written them off will be wrong.

I hope thats how it turns out.👍

But its not sounding promising tbf.

I think newell might link well with stevenson when he is fit again on the left,and doidge will be an asset,but as I say I will reserve full judgement until ive seen them myself.

But we still need a few for sure.

[Ronniekirk]

My concern is that people are (quite rightly) trying to justify why these new signings might not look as bad as they were at first look, there’s a big difference between might not be that bad to being brilliant.

I don’t want signings that aren’t that bad, I want them to excite me and I want them to be brilliant players that’ll improve the side.

Think Jackson looked better than the others on Saturday but I don’t see any of them being brilliant for us, even if they do get better than they were on Saturday.

That’s fair cheered me up Bingo Think I will pop down to Easter Rd On Saturday and see for myself
I am clinging on to the fact we haven’t seen his first 11 start a game yet and with injuries to Stevenson and Gray and Porteous and no risks being taken with Boyle it could be a while before we see that plus any new signings that come in
It’s fine to bro g I. A few players who he sees as work in progress that he wants to develop But he needs to be realistic that we lost a lot of first team players last year and we really haven’t replaced like with like
And I agree I want players who excite me or my Season Ticket will not be used as often



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[Ronniekirk]

I'm not trying to be ITK or that but I was told that we are willing to hold out until then for a midfielder. We are also apparently looking for someone to fit into a 3 in midfield as opposed to a "defensive midfielder" like a Bartley or Milligan who screen the defence. Was also said hibs are slightly more confident about Omeonga returning as theyve been given some encouragement about a deal but that may drag on until later in the window.


Might be true might be pish but it's a rumour thread after all [emoji1745]*[emoji3603]

The longer deals drag on the worry is someone else Gazump s us and we loose out and then are left scrambling about bringing in a player that we then try and play out of position which is usually to the detriment of the team



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[Springbank]

If the new players turn out to be fine then every single person who has written them off will be wrong.

Here's hoping! It would be part of the 'adapting' process of joining a club where expectations are [legitimately] higher than they were at, say, a Forest Green Rovers or a Rotherham United.

Taking in 6 or 7 new players, as we have done this summer, you'd be surprised if you got a 100% successes, and one of Lennon's better traits as Hibs manager was a decisiveness in moving on those who don't settle or make the grade at a club of Hibs' stature. Seems uncontroversial to me to say PH may need to at least be prepared to take similar action too...but hope they all settle and flourish here.

[Jones28]

A Middlesbrough supporting mate of mine text me to say they are in for Kamberi. Would mean a minimum of two strikers required if he went imo.

[Since452]

Who are the others?

Jason Cummings, Tony Watt, David Goodwillie, Stevie Mallan, Jay Fulton, Ryan Blair etc

[MWHIBBIES]

Really recruitment has been poor again this summer.in terms of what we needed and what we got in so far.

It doesn't sound as though many of the new signings will dislodge any players already at the club.

Wee steph should be an absolute priority with another DM,CM,FWD and maybe even another CB.

Hopefully not another january patchwork job.

We needed a defender, a full back, a left winger and a striker, We got all of those. We definitely don't need another central defender now.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Before the last 2 games this board was full of everyone saying what an amazing window we have had?

In terms of funds being made available, deals getting done early by the club it has been successful. It has been good from that side.

Its up to the recruitment/ management side to make sure they were the right ones.

[SquashedFrogg]

Jason Cummings, Tony Watt, David Goodwillie, Stevie Mallan, Jay Fulton, Ryan Blair etc

Would it have any difference if they had went down to England at a different time? When's 'not too soon'?

Not convinced it was 'too soon' for any of them. Clearly they didn't think it was, nor did the clubs who bought them.

[southsider]

Who are the others?

Marinello for one and Joe Baker.

[Cat Stanton]

Instantly forgotten.

Unfair, I think. Gauld looked terrific in his first few games and then got injured. And that was that really.

And in terms of some of the other posts about him, I think it's great that he's wanted to test himself in a better football environment than Scotland. Sure, it hasn't worked out the way many hoped/thought it would, but well done for trying and good luck to him.

[Stuart93]

A Middlesbrough supporting mate of mine text me to say they are in for Kamberi. Would mean a minimum of two strikers required if he went imo.

Did you ask him what’s the best route to the ground to drop Flo off

[Currie Hibee]

Would the signings of wee Steph and McNulty make people happy or do we need more depth. For me another Def Mid and wide man with pace.

[Barman Stanton]

Did you ask him what’s the best route to the ground to drop Flo off

Did you miss the previous season when he was on fire? There is a good player in there. We would be stupid to sell him and gamble on someone else.

[joe_hfc]

Did you miss the previous season when he was on fire? There is a good player in there. We would be stupid to sell him and gamble on someone else.

I don't know about that. Keeping him is a gamble in itself. When he first came he was in a new place, determined to make an impression, and everything was going right for him. Now, he knows he has little competition and has gotten a bit too comfortable and feels entitled to sulk about and make the effort when he feels like it.

I do agree that there's a player in there, but I don't think we'll see it at Hibs. If a decent offer comes in I'd accept as long as we have a couple of promising options to bring in.

[marinello59]

Unfair, I think. Gauld looked terrific in his first few games and then got injured. And that was that really.

And in terms of some of the other posts about him, I think it's great that he's wanted to test himself in a better football environment than Scotland. Sure, it hasn't worked out the way many hoped/thought it would, but well done for trying and good luck to him.

He played well on his debut against Elgin City. Next time out at St Mirren he should have been hooked long before he was. I don’t remember him offering anything much after that either. He was possibly the most disappointing signing I can remember.

[Billychaotic182]

Bring back Simon Murray!!!

[Cat Stanton]

He played well on his debut against Elgin City. Next time out at St Mirren he should have been hooked long before he was. I don’t remember him offering anything much after that either. He was possibly the most disappointing signing I can remember.

His debut was away at Motherwell. He was a stand out in a thoroughly miserable evening - he looked on a different wavelength to his team mates. Omeonga also made his debut and was mince - which shows you what a run of games gives you (which Gauld never really got).

Anyway, suppose this hardly matters now.

Any transfer news...??!!

[Since452]

He played well on his debut against Elgin City. Next time out at St Mirren he should have been hooked long before he was. I don’t remember him offering anything much after that either. He was possibly the most disappointing signing I can remember.

Have i stepped into the future?

[Brightside]

Another who left Scottish football too soon initially

Yep wasted career. Getting to play every week in Portugal or playing in Dundee?

[Since452]

Yep wasted career. Getting to play every week in Portugal or playing in Dundee?

Worked out well for him

[Barman Stanton]

I don't know about that. Keeping him is a gamble in itself. When he first came he was in a new place, determined to make an impression, and everything was going right for him. Now, he knows he has little competition and has gotten a bit too comfortable and feels entitled to sulk about and make the effort when he feels like it.

I do agree that there's a player in there, but I don't think we'll see it at Hibs. If a decent offer comes in I'd accept as long as we have a couple of promising options to bring in.

I'm no expert on what went on in that changing room, but by all accounts it looks like Lennon beat the confidence out of him. West Brom gave a bit more insight into the he works with their statement about Burke.

I think if Kamberi is here he will be one of our top players.

[Greenbeard]

Did you miss the previous season when he was on fire? There is a good player in there. We would be stupid to sell him and gamble on someone else.
Kambernie can bolt. He won't hit the apple IMO. Not consistently anyway.

[Brightside]

Worked out well for him

Think he’s living a decent life by the sounds of it. Better than most.

[flash]

Kambernie can bolt. He won't hit the apple IMO. Not consistently anyway.

I agree.:confused:

[The 90+2]

Kambernie can bolt. He won't hit the apple IMO. Not consistently anyway.

Bloody hell man.

[Hermit Crab]

Kambernie can bolt. He won't hit the apple IMO. Not consistently anyway.


Who? :confused:

[Barman Stanton]

Kambernie can bolt. He won't hit the apple IMO. Not consistently anyway.

Who the f*** is Kambernie and why is he trying to hit an apple?

[MyJo]

Would it have any difference if they had went down to England at a different time? When's 'not too soon'?

Not convinced it was 'too soon' for any of them. Clearly they didn't think it was, nor did the clubs who bought them.

The problem is that the players mentioned were young players who had broken into the first team up here and were doing really well at that level until a big money offer came in and they moved chasing a wage when their development would have been better served by spending another season or two in the first team at their Scottish clubs.

Ultimately they followed the money to places where they didn't get to play first team competitive football and were not as highly valued as a player (not just in monetary terms) so their development was hampered. They didn't gain the experience and knowledge that would have come from being a first team player playing 30 odd competitive matches per season at a decent level before making a move.

[Here’s Lucy!]

Who the f*** is Kambernie and why is he trying to hit an apple?

He’s the Swiss version of William Tell.

His surname is Winters.

[Jones28]

Did you ask him what’s the best route to the ground to drop Flo off

You missed his first season I take it?

[HoboHarry]

He’s the Swiss version of William Tell.

His surname is Winters.
Wasn't William Tell Swiss also? Damn good shot mind you, a lot better than William Burroughs for example......

[Stuart93]

You missed his first season I take it?

I did not...and it was half a season

Tongue in cheek comment really

I’d happily keep him if he can find that form again but if we’re being offered good money can we take that chance

[Barman Stanton]

I did not...and it was half a season

Tongue in cheek comment really

I’d happily keep him if he can find that form again but if we’re being offered good money can we take that chance

He is a player that is going to split opinion I think. I can understand why people would take the money for him. I think when he is on form he is as good as we can afford. Needs to find that form though.

[The Leith Dutch]

I did not...and it was half a season

Tongue in cheek comment really

I’d happily keep him if he can find that form again but if we’re being offered good money can we take that chance

We've had a player who in his first half season looked like a fantastic striker.
He then played the next six months or so in a team where he was pilloried by Lennon in what the evidence suggests was NL losing the dressing room large style.

In short we know he can be exceptional in a Hibs team with confidence being properly managed.

£2m is of relatively little use to us in improving the players on the park as I don't think it changes the strikers we're looking at - we can afford the transfer fee/wages combination at the moment for any striker we might sign without the £2m. Add to that the fact we can probably bring one of those strikers in now in addition to Flo.

For me the chance I don't think we should be taking is getting rid of a guy we know can be exceptional in the hope that we can get better at this stage of the window (particularly with the other holes we have to fill in the team in getting two midfielders and another striker in).

[ahibby]

He is a player that is going to split opinion I think. I can understand why people would take the money for him. I think when he is on form he is as good as we can afford. Needs to find that form though.

Doidge over him though although he isnt a real centre forward. Probably Boyle n Doidge before Kamberi and Shaw. Would Kamberi be satisfied with warming the bench and what effect would that have on his attitude.

[Greencore]

Kambernie can bolt. He won't hit the apple IMO. Not consistently anyway.

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Barman Stanton]

Doidge over him though although he isnt a real centre forward. Probably Boyle n Doidge before Kamberi and Shaw. Would Kamberi be satisfied with warming the bench and what effect would that have on his attitude.

Would rather keep Boyle on the wing. Shooting not his strength, was always pretty wasteful when we have played him up front.

[ahibby]

Would rather keep Boyle on the wing. Shooting not his strength, was always pretty wasteful when we have played him up front.

Thats what I was thinking Boyle supplying Doidge. Although Doidge capable of scoring solos going by footage. I think Kamberi is better cutting in from wide left but seems Hecky has someone for that role so maybe Kamberi is surpkus despite what has been said.

[J-C]

I think Flo can be a very huffy player, left Grasshoppers dye to falling out with the coach. Berated by our manager and assistant for not doing enough either in training or on the field, goes in the huff and seemingly wants to leave. Manager leaves and a new one comes in and he didn't quite set the heather on fire against his old manager when we played Celtic. New striker comes in and Flo gets put out wide so Horgan can go right, looks disinterested and eventually dropped by Heckingbottom. I was told about 3 weeks ago he wanted to leave and being a high earner the club would sell to use his wages.

[scooby]

Yep wasted career. Getting to play every week in Portugal or playing in Dundee?

Looking to secure Portuguese citizenship I guess, beats living here for sure.

[Iggy Pope]

His debut was away at Motherwell. He was a stand out in a thoroughly miserable evening - he looked on a different wavelength to his team mates. Omeonga also made his debut and was mince - which shows you what a run of games gives you (which Gauld never really got).

Anyway, suppose this hardly matters now.

Any transfer news...??!!

His debut was against Elgin City in the cup.
He was rubbish at Motherwell, they all were including Omeonga. (Who did make his debut that night).

[Springbank]

Who the f*** is Kambernie and why is he trying to hit an apple?

If this is a William Tell reference, on account of Kambernie's Swiss nationality, then it is genius

If it's a typo then I am more lost than ever :greengrin

[marinello59]

His debut was away at Motherwell. He was a stand out in a thoroughly miserable evening - he looked on a different wavelength to his team mates. Omeonga also made his debut and was mince - which shows you what a run of games gives you (which Gauld never really got).

Anyway, suppose this hardly matters now.

Any transfer news...??!!

He made his debut against Elgin at home. I did forget about the midweek game against Motherwell though so St Mirren wasn't his next run out as I said. He was still poor though.

[Saint Hibee]

Kamberi is the best player we’ve got, in my humble opinion of course.

[Since452]

Based on last season Kamberi leaving wouldn't bother me.

[hhibs]

Marinello for one and Joe Baker.

Marenello yes but Joe Baker,you are wrong on that one.

[stuart-farquhar]

Looking to secure Portuguese citizenship I guess, beats living here for sure.

Does it?

[Tarrahib]

Who the f*** is Kambernie and why is he trying to hit an apple?

I think the clue might be Bernie Bolt.

[Here’s Lucy!]

I think the clue might be Bernie Bolt.

He’s hardly a ‘golden shot’. :greengrin

Bernie flaming Winters more like.

[Here’s Lucy!]

Does it?

Yes, that comment stumped me too.

[Scouse Hibee]

Worked out well for him

Yes it has, and now he’s signed for another Portuguese club so obviously likes it out there. Good luck to the lad, it’s a big step to move to another country at such a young age and early stage in his career.

[Ray_]

Marinello for one and Joe Baker.

Joe Baker went to Italy and after a serious car accident, where he spent a month in the hospital on a drip he moved to Arsenal as he hadn't liked the press intrusion in Italy, this was the same with Dennis Law. While at Arsenal he was their top scorer in three of his for years there and whilst at Arsenal, he scored 100 goals in 156 games in all competitions, making him one of the club's most prolific goalscorers of all time.

[eastcoasthibby]

Would rather keep Boyle on the wing. Shooting not his strength, was always pretty wasteful when we have played him up front.

Agree please don't let's even think that Boyle can play a central forward ...get him wide changing sides provide the pace and ammo for our other forward players !!

[HoboHarry]

Does it?
Depends on the individual doesn't it? A good number of the Scots living in Portugal would tell you that it does and equally a good number of Scots would rather not live abroad. Personally I am where I am for life, I'll visit to see family but never live in Scotland again....

[mayo hibee]

Sky sports new ticker reporting that Farense paid £3.6m for Gauld, surely they've picked that up wrong?

[Here’s Lucy!]

Sky sports new ticker reporting that Farense paid £3.6m for Gauld, surely they've picked that up wrong?

Three and sixpence more like.

[bingo70]

Sky sports new ticker reporting that Farense paid £3.6m for Gauld, surely they've picked that up wrong?

They have. It’s his release clause in his new contract that’s at that amount I think.

[Michael]

Sky sports new ticker reporting that Farense paid £3.6m for Gauld, surely they've picked that up wrong?

That's more likely to be the release clause they've inserted to his new contract. They'd won't have paid much (if anything? was he still under contract?)

[HibbyKeith]

That's more likely to be the release clause they've inserted to his new contract. They'd won't have paid much (if anything? was he still under contract?)

its the release clause in his new contract. :agree:

[stuart-farquhar]

Depends on the individual doesn't it? A good number of the Scots living in Portugal would tell you that it does and equally a good number of Scots would rather not live abroad. Personally I am where I am for life, I'll visit to see family but never live in Scotland again....

Fair enough. I personally find the US a tad boring compared to Europe. Portugal is ok I suppose but it's got its limitations.

It's all about personal likes and dislikes I guess. And ones age!

[Aritch]

Fair enough. I personally find the US a tad boring compared to Europe. Portugal is ok I suppose but it's got its limitations.

It's all about personal likes and dislikes I guess. And ones age!

I've lived in Lisbon and I'd argue quality of life is extremely high there. Warmer climate, healthier/better food, lower prices. Admittedly, it's a long way from Easter Road, but it has its charms.

Main downside I can think of is that Portuguese drivers are absolutely radge.

[HoboHarry]

Fair enough. I personally find the US a tad boring compared to Europe. Portugal is ok I suppose but it's got its limitations.

It's all about personal likes and dislikes I guess. And ones age!
Location within the country matters too - if I came from Edinburgh I might feel different but I come from Elgin originally. Just 30 minutes north of Houston could not be called boring compared to Elgin lol.....

[marinello59]

Location within the country matters too - if I came from Edinburgh I might feel different but I come from Elgin originally. Just 30 minutes north of Houston could not be called boring compared to Elgin lol.....

Not all of Elgin. Bishopmill’s alright. :greengrin

[GMD]

Ha ha, Ex Pinefield boy here!

[HoboHarry]

Not all of Elgin. Bishopmill’s alright. :greengrin
Aye if your black plague, rabies and tetanus shots are up to date......

[southsider]

Joe Baker went to Italy and after a serious car accident, where he spent a month in the hospital on a drip he moved to Arsenal as he hadn't liked the press intrusion in Italy, this was the same with Dennis Law. While at Arsenal he was their top scorer in three of his for years there and whilst at Arsenal, he scored 100 goals in 156 games in all competitions, making him one of the club's most prolific goalscorers of all time.
One more season at Hibs then too Bacelona

[HoboHarry]

Ha ha, Ex Pinefield boy here!
RAF b*****d ...... :greengrin

[Greenbeard]

He’s hardly a ‘golden shot’. :greengrin

Bernie flaming Winters more like.
For the younger generation the Golden Shot was not a P155ing porno. It was a game show where the contestants fired actual crossbow bolts at targets - in the studio. Think that is bad? The winner had to give audio directions - up a bit, down, a bit, left a bit etc - to a shooter who was blindfolded. There was no Elf in Safety in them days.

[HoboHarry]

For the younger generation the Golden Shot was not a P155ing porno. It was a game show where the contestants fired actual crossbow bolts at targets - in the studio. Think that is bad? The winner had to give audio directions - up a bit, down, a bit, left a bit etc - to a shooter who was blindfolded. There was no Elf in Safety in them days.
Is that what it was? All I saw was Anne Aston......

[WoreTheGreen]

Is that what it was? All I saw was Anne Aston......

Bernie the bolt

[Stuart93]

Any hibs rumours 🙄

[marinello59]

Aye if your black plague, rabies and tetanus shots are up to date......

Aye, to protect us from incomers from over the river. :greengrin

[bingo70]

Any hibs rumours 🙄

Everyone always goes on about wanting early signings but the reality of that is actually quite pish.

I want loads of signings all summer, want us to sign loads at the start, I hate this boring bit in the middle so want loads of signings now and if it’s a boring end to the window I’ll be furious so there better be loads of signings then too.

If that makes me unreasonable then so be it, I pay my money and I’ll moan if I want to.


(That’s not a dig at you, it’s just genuinely how I feel during the transfer window)

[Robbo6-2]

Chelsea loaning out big AmapduHed be perfect

[HoboHarry]

Aye, to protect us from incomers from over the river. :greengrin

:tee hee:

[Jones28]

Any hibs rumours 🙄

Kamberi to Middlesbrough 😂

[04Sauzee]

A little write up on Will Donkin

https://www.fromthetofubowl.com/2018/03/will-donkin-will-be-huge-star-in-taiwan.html?m=1

[Stuart93]

Everyone always goes on about wanting early signings but the reality of that is actually quite pish.

I want loads of signings all summer, want us to sign loads at the start, I hate this boring bit in the middle so want loads of signings now and if it’s a boring end to the window I’ll be furious so there better be loads of signings then too.

If that makes me unreasonable then so be it, I pay my money and I’ll moan if I want to.


(That’s not a dig at you, it’s just genuinely how I feel during the transfer window)

We want signings 1 a day everyday from start to finish

Is this too much to ask

[Billy Whizz]

We want signings 1 a day everyday from start to finish

Is this too much to ask

47 days until our window closes

[Stuart93]

Kamberi to Middlesbrough 😂

Has anybody asked what’s the best route to the ground to drop Flo off 😂

[Stuart93]

47 days until our window closes

I want 47 signings then

[bingo70]

I want 47 signings then

Correct.

Can they start to have better names as well please?

The latest being Jon Smith is just an absolute piss take now, think he’s trying to wind me up.

[Captain Trips]

We must have some team if Kamberi leaving is seen as OK by some. I'd be interested in how we would be better off without him.

[SMAXXA]

We must have some team if Kamberi leaving is seen as OK by some. I'd be interested in how we would be better off without him.

Simple we wouldn’t