Summer 2019 transfer thread

[Ray_]

Fine. But I’m getting bored of folk who haven’t actually seen us play yet this season giving it the full ‘we’re never good enough’.

What about the ones who have seen us and are saying the same thing? :greengrin

[hibbie02]

Have a day off ffs

For someone with so many opinions, you are quick to slag people off if they have them. Just because I have a different view to you, doesn't mean I can't have one.

[Stuart93]

For someone with so many opinions, you are quick to slag people off if they have them. Just because I have a different view to you, doesn't mean I can't have one.

Aye you are but for ****sake, you have us doomed for years to come 😂

[Captain Trips]

I read we won't challenge for 4th with this team or worse, Celtic, Sevco, Aberdeen all better than us? OK that is fair argument.

I fail to see from the rest of the clubs many players I would swap with ours and also some Aberdeen and some Sevco I wouldn't have.

I would be stunned if we were not in the mix for 4th pushing 3rd. What is so good about the other clubs?

[Groathillgrump]

After reading page after page of this thread, musing over the merits of the players we have brought in and looking at our last few results I can confidently say I haven't got the first clue how our season is going to pan out. :greengrin

Everything could click and we might be brilliant, or we have signed a load of duds and we are fooooked …. I haven't seen any of the new guys play and I wont until the Arbroath game, but if anybody who has seen us play recently can come on here and tell me they have seen signs that any of our new signings are going to turn out to be legends in the making I would love to here it, because so far nobody seems very excited by them.

Not aimed at you, NAE NOOKIE but it's a bit early for anyone to be deciding if any of the new guys will become legends. Be honest, did anyone think David Gray would become our winning goal scoring captain in a Scottish Cup final when we signed him from Burton Albion? When he signed I bet most of us on here were bumping our gums about how we'd never heard of him and he must be crap because he'd been playing for Burton.

People need to have a bit patience and give the newbies a chance to bed in before making snap decisions on their ability or lack of it!

[Brightside]

You cant count the draw if you dont think the season has started yet?

From tomorrow BH.

[CorrieHibs]

I don’t understand the theory that we’re weaker than last season in the slightest. We have brought in 7 players who IMO are all of a good enough standard to play important roles in any matchday squad this season. We lost 11 players in the summer but only 3 of them played any sort of major part in the season and especially under hecky those being Milligan omeonga and mcnulty.

Omeonga has been replaced with Scott Allan both players IMO hecky will see as the main attacking CM on the left of the three and for me Scott Allan wins that duel every day of the week.

Milligan has now been replaced with Vela, vela comes in with a very good reputation and seems a bit of a coup. I liked Milligan and would have happily seen him stay but vela appears to have much more energy which hecky virtually states was the reason he let Milligan go. For me that’s 2-0 to the new signings.

Finally Mark McNulty has been replaced with Doidge, this one for me is 50/50 McNulty came in and done a good job for us, but let’s not forget that for half his loan spell he didn’t score and really wasn’t influencing games at all, he had an excellent start to his loan spell and for what it’s worth I would have taken him back(would still like to). So far I’ve liked what I’ve seen from doidge and think he will score plenty goals from the good delivery Allan mallan can provide from set plays and also Boyle and Horgan from wide areas, he will also offer a very good Ariel threat when we need to get up the park quickly so for me like I said 50/50. I’ll say 3-1 to the new signings in terms of starting 11 players.

Our other recruits in Maxwell, James, Jackson and newell have seen us directly replace bogdan, strengthen our defence along with porteous coming back and newell adding another option wide or also as a centre mid in the Scott Allan role on the left of CM.

Players who have left that haven’t been mentioned, Lewis Allan(1 start and 3/4 sub apps0 goals) Marvin Bartley(big hero but hardly featured) Ross Laidlaw(didn’t feature last season) Thomas Ageypong (11 appearances 1 goal) Miquel Nelom (3 appearances) Johnathon Spector( 1 sub appearance) Gael Bigarama ( 1 sub appearance).

An additional point would also be we have the emergence of Oli Shaw with a full seasons experience and now a proper first team player( like it or not he scored important goals and had a good return last year) Fraser Murray who has been my pick of Pre season and sean Mackie all now first team players with Josh Campbell and Ben Stirling now filling the role of “youngsters”.

I’d imagine come st mirren our starting 11 and bench will look like this,

Marciano
Gray Hanlon McGregor Mackie
Mallan vela Allan
Boyle. Doidge Horgan

Bench: maxwell Jackson James newell shaw kamberi murray.

That’s with Stevenson slivka and porteous out injured.

For me that’s a very strong squad of 21 players with the likes of Whittaker Stirling and Campbell supplementing it and a squad more than capable of finishing top 4

Good sensible post.

Don’t think we’re far away. I have no idea what formation, Hecky will play. But, I do think out the 7 signings. 5 will start. He talks about Newell balancing out the midfield, because he is left footed.

I do like that team, but I think Jackson will start ahead of Daz. The 3 in the middle looks good on paper, but I think it’s between Allan and Mallan. Can’t see them in the same midfield. To play 3 in the midfield you need 2 ball winners. Vela being one, still think we’ll go out and get another.

Rocky
Gray Jackson Hanlon Stevenson
Horgan Vela Allan Newell
Doidge Kamberi

As I said, no idea if we go 442, 433 or 4231.

[neil7908]

I read we won't challenge for 4th with this team or worse, Celtic, Sevco, Aberdeen all better than us? OK that is fair argument.

I fail to see from the rest of the clubs many players I would swap with ours and also some Aberdeen and some Sevco I wouldn't have.

I would be stunned if we were not in the mix for 4th pushing 3rd. What is so good about the other clubs?

I think this is a good shout. I have some concerns about the squad but excited for this season and hope we'll bring in another 1 or 2.

But I think your main point is correct - apart from the 3 you've mentioned who I do expect to be ahead of us, who else in the league is going to be pushing us?

Hearts will be there and there abouts. Killie might continue their form under Clarke but not looking likely at this stage.

Then who? Motherwell, St Johnstone? Are they anything special?

I'd be shocked if we end up bottom 6. Likely to be fighting for 4th imo.

[The Modfather]

We still need one more workhorse in midfield who could be Omeonga or a youngster. That would allow us to play Allan, Mallan and Vela in games against weaker opposition and Allan, Vela and the one more in the big games.

I'm not convinced that we need another striker if we're only playing one up front, because that is either Doidge or Kamberi which means we've got a big wage sitting on the bench doing nothing. I'd rather have Shaw as the cheap third striker who does score goals. The exception would be if we can find a player who can both play through the middle and out wide. Based on last season, that isn't Kamberi.

I also find it interesting that we didn't bring back Agyepong as a fourth winger. Maybe he didn't show us enough last season, or maybe Mac City want him to get more playing time than we could offer.

I thought it was quite straightforward with Agyepong. We took a gamble on him due to his known injury record and it failed. I’d not want to take that gamble a second time.

[Captain Trips]

I think this is a good shout. I have some concerns about the squad but excited for this season and hope we'll bring in another 1 or 2.

But I think your main point is correct - apart from the 3 you've mentioned who I do expect to be ahead of us, who else in the league is going to be pushing us?

Hearts will be there and there abouts. Killie might continue their form under Clarke but not looking likely at this stage.

Then who? Motherwell, St Johnstone? Are they anything special?

I'd be shocked if we end up bottom 6. Likely to be fighting for 4th imo.

If I was concerned about Hearts squad and all the rest then we would need to be in very sorry state. As it stands I am not even concerned about Aberdeen or Sevco.

[hibbie02]

Aye you are but for ****sake, you have us doomed for years to come 😂

Having been a Hibs fan for 50+ years, I have seen my share of highs and lows, and there have been many lows. I just want to see a steady progression and hopefully the new regime will allow that to happen. I just feel we have not been bringing in better (even a little better) than we had last term. We are still at least 2 good players away from challenging for top 4.

[Lago]

today feels like a big day for PH

he's signed a whole load of lower league english journeymen (shades of 2012)

arbroath destroyed stirling 6-1

yet the journeymen drew 1-1 with stirling and were lucky to do so

it's getting to time we saw something from these guys that shows they are at Hibs level

Don't you just love that term 'journeyman' :confused:

[Brightside]

Having been a Hibs fan for 50+ years, I have seen my share of highs and lows, and there have been many lows. I just want to see a steady progression and hopefully the new regime will allow that to happen. I just feel we have not been bringing in better (even a little better) than we had last term. We are still at least 2 good players away from challenging for top 4.

Who will be forth then?

[Allant1981]

Having been a Hibs fan for 50+ years, I have seen my share of highs and lows, and there have been many lows. I just want to see a steady progression and hopefully the new regime will allow that to happen. I just feel we have not been bringing in better (even a little better) than we had last term. We are still at least 2 good players away from challenging for top 4.

So the players we have brought in must be pretty good then if we only need an extra 2 to challenge for a top 4 place? Why not give the guys more than 1 competitive game before deciding if they are any better

[HFC93]

Don't you just love that term 'journeyman' :confused:

Got to love this place at times. This narrative that all the new signings are lower league journeymen is bizzare.

[Hibby70]

I was in a bar in Aberdeen the season before we got relegated and a guy was moaning about Hanlon and Stevenson, saying they were Journeymen!!!

[hibbie02]

Who will be forth then?

Progression from last season would mean us in fourth. That would put us where we were 2 seasons ago. I just don't see us having the players yet to get us there. My point is we need 2 good players still, to be better than we were last year. I will be very happy if I am wrong.

[04Sauzee]

Progression from last season would mean us in fourth. That would put us where we were 2 seasons ago. I just don't see us having the players yet to get us there. My point is we need 2 good players still, to be better than we were last year. I will be very happy if I am wrong.

I'm not sure that kilmarnock are better squad wise than they were last season? Jury is out on Aberdeen

[Brightside]

Progression from last season would mean us in fourth. That would put us where we were 2 seasons ago. I just don't see us having the players yet to get us there. My point is we need 2 good players still, to be better than we were last year. I will be very happy if I am wrong.

But other teams are involved in that equation. Killie. Hearts. Will they improve?

[SHODAN]

I was in a bar in Aberdeen the season before we got relegated and a guy was moaning about Hanlon and Stevenson, saying they were Journeymen!!!

That doesn't even make sense.

[PatHead]

I'm not sure that kilmarnock are better squad wise than they were last season? Jury is out on Aberdeen

Killie have lost a few players.

[Vault Boy]

Killie have lost a few players.

Killie have a small squad anyway, so the loss of Jones and to a lesser extent Boyd will hurt them.

Clarke is obviously the biggest loss of all.

[southsider]

Killie have lost a few players.

Just been put out of Europe by a Welsh pub team.

[Barman Stanton]

today feels like a big day for PH

he's signed a whole load of lower league english journeymen (shades of 2012)

arbroath destroyed stirling 6-1

yet the journeymen drew 1-1 with stirling and were lucky to do so

it's getting to time we saw something from these guys that shows they are at Hibs level

WTF did I just read!

[Spudster]

As I said, no idea if we go 442, 443, or 4231.
Would be delighted if we got away with a 443 all season!

[Shanksaidno]

Still maintain Hecky has been telling players to go easy, build up fitness no injuries etc

Will be a different team come St Midden game

We will then have a consolidated team by Christmas when we will add a couple of players to fill any perceived weaknesess

Be Happy

[The Leith Dutch]

Still maintain Hecky has been telling players to go easy, build up fitness no injuries etc

Will be a different team come St Midden game

We will then have a consolidated team by Christmas when we will add a couple of players to fill any perceived weaknesess

Be Happy

I sincerely hope that after stating the players "downed tools" at the end of last season he isn't telling them to go easy at the start of this one. That would be disappointing.

[Shanksaidno]

I sincerely hope that after stating the players "downed tools" at the end of last season he isn't telling them to go easy at the start of this one. That would be disappointing.


Different situation ..... players doing off their own back v Hecky telling them to

[Springbank]

WTF did I just read!

The reality. Not complacency.

Bad result today and we are out the cup. Reality.

Arbroath 6 Stirling 1

Hibs 1 Stirling 1

Reality.

We need these new boys to show up today

That is what you just read.

Happy to help & hope we get back to winning ways today.

[Wilson]

today feels like a big day for PH

he's signed a whole load of lower league english journeymen (shades of 2012)

arbroath destroyed stirling 6-1

yet the journeymen drew 1-1 with stirling and were lucky to do so

it's getting to time we saw something from these guys that shows they are at Hibs level


I too would like to see a good performance - from the whole team not just the new lads.

I get that it is early days but at our level, compared to the teams we're playing, we have to be ready to go. Certainly we have to be ready to give a reaction to a somewhat negative previous result.

It isn't going to define our season so it isn't big in those terms. It just feels like a good game for us to show something - as the poster was saying.

Here is hoping.

[hibs#1]

I think Killie will be poor this season, think they will drop out the top 6 and Motherwell will finish in the top 6, think they have signed quite well so far.

[The 90+2]

The reality. Not complacency.

Bad result today and we are out the cup. Reality.

Arbroath 6 Stirling 1

Hibs 1 Stirling 1

Reality.

We need these new boys to show up today

That is what you just read.

Happy to help & hope we get back to winning ways today.

It will click today and we will win very comfortably.

[HFC93]

The reality. Not complacency.

Bad result today and we are out the cup. Reality.

Arbroath 6 Stirling 1

Hibs 1 Stirling 1

Reality.

We need these new boys to show up today

That is what you just read.

Happy to help & hope we get back to winning ways today.

Would we 100% be out with a bad result today?

[The 90+2]

Would we 100% be out with a bad result today?

Probably.

[The Leith Dutch]

Different situation ..... players doing off their own back v Hecky telling them to

Yes in the sense of it not being a managerial instruction but No in the sense of players taking it easy (OPs words) in an actual competitive game.

FWIW I highly doubt PH has told them to take it easy - I'd be disappointed if he had.
I suspect the closest it would come to that is him being not upset after they game if they had eased off in the second half having established a 3 goal cushion in the first.

Not having a pop at you or anyone else for that matter but it worries me that these LC games would be taken lightly or as an exercise in gaining match fitness either by fans, manager or players.
a) it's a trophy we can win b) it's momentum - we don't get anything for thumping teams in this 6-0 but it puts confidence throughout the team.

A slow start and downing tools at the end are not the way to challenge for top 4 and Europe.

[BSEJVT]

Having been a Hibs fan for 50+ years, I have seen my share of highs and lows, and there have been many lows. I just want to see a steady progression and hopefully the new regime will allow that to happen. I just feel we have not been bringing in better (even a little better) than we had last term. We are still at least 2 good players away from challenging for top 4.

Like you, I have been a Hibs fan for over 50 years and at no time in that period did I see steady progression and don't expect to.

Other than the OF. our peers over that period Aberdeen, Hearts & Dundee United like us have all seen their fair share of boom or bust.

That's the nature of the game in Scotland.

The possible exception being Aberdeen of late but they have won nothing, bottle out at every final hurdle and I would rather stick knitting needles in my eyes than watch them week in week out.

IMO you are having a pop for having a pop's sake and trying to justify doing so after the event.

Come back to me after the first round of SPL fixtures and let's see where we are.

Right now everything is worthless speculation.

Maybe there will be some superstars waiting to bud or more likely the sum of the whole will be greater than its individual components.

I seriously doubt folk questioning what we done so far in the market is going to cause any sort of revision in our plans for the rest of the window.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Not aimed at you, NAE NOOKIE but it's a bit early for anyone to be deciding if any of the new guys will become legends. Be honest, did anyone think David Gray would become our winning goal scoring captain in a Scottish Cup final when we signed him from Burton Albion? When he signed I bet most of us on here were bumping our gums about how we'd never heard of him and he must be crap because he'd been playing for Burton.

People need to have a bit patience and give the newbies a chance to bed in before making snap decisions on their ability or lack of it!

I was using the term legend with a bit of poetic licence mate :greengrin

My point was simply that after a few games now I haven't seen anybody say anything along the lines of ... 'wow, that ( insert name ) looks a real player' The best I can recall is 'aye he did ok' stuff like that.

Unfortunately I wont be there today, one of about 5 home games I will have missed in 20 years or more, but I'm hoping we will put in a cohesive and dominating performance with signs that we are on the way to clicking as a team.

[Sir David Gray]

Would we 100% be out with a bad result today?

If we lose today we'll almost certainly be out. If we then went on to win our last two matches, 8 points would be unlikely to be enough if we finish 2nd so we would need to somehow try and top the group in order to qualify and with 8 points we would be pushing it.

[Barman Stanton]

The reality. Not complacency.

Bad result today and we are out the cup. Reality.

Arbroath 6 Stirling 1

Hibs 1 Stirling 1

Reality.

We need these new boys to show up today

That is what you just read.

Happy to help & hope we get back to winning ways today.

More the case you have no idea what a journeyman is.

[04Sauzee]

Eamonn Brophy linked with a 1M move to Cardiff

[Since452]

Killie have a small squad anyway, so the loss of Jones and to a lesser extent Boyd will hurt them.

Clarke is obviously the biggest loss of all.

They were always going to have a dip losing a manager like Clarke with the absolute miracles he worked there. Add in the players they've lost and the rookie Italian manager i think they'll be in trouble this season.

[weecounty hibby]

Eamonn Brophy linked with a 1M move to Cardiff

Nuts if they don't take that. I would have him but not at 1m. He's probably worth a 1/4 of that

[Greencore]

Canny mind brophy with us...
Apprently he was.

[ahibby]

Would be delighted if we got away with a 443 all season!

Goalie plaing CF maybe?

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

They were always going to have a dip losing a manager like Clarke with the absolute miracles he worked there. Add in the players they've lost and the rookie Italian manager i think they'll be in trouble this season.


Not sure there is a book open already for first manager to get punted but the Killie manager may be a good bet. I was talking to someone who's company has a sponsorship deal with them and he was saying the players are far from happy with things and a Stubbs like exit could be in the cards.

[Speedway]

Although I can’t see it, does anyone think that we might be in for Stevie May?

[Unseen work]

Although I can’t see it, does anyone think that we might be in for Stevie May?

I bloody hope not, he’s garbage.

Would much rather Oli Shaw

[matty_f]

Although I can’t see it, does anyone think that we might be in for Stevie May?

I think I saw something about him joining Dundee United.

[04Sauzee]

Although I can’t see it, does anyone think that we might be in for Stevie May?

Been linked with Killie today but that's just the newspapers and they have made up plenty nonsense about Hibs this window

[SHODAN]

Stevie May hasn't had the best of times with Aberdeen but the quality is there and he could easily step up again with us.

[Michael]

May was a great player at St. Johnstone, but he's never got over his knee injury at Preston.

[SMAXXA]

Stevie May hasn't had the best of times with Aberdeen but the quality is there and he could easily step up again with us.

Doesn’t fit out transfer criteria I’m afraid

[The_Horde]

Lennon signing a player from the same agency as Offy.

[SMAXXA]

Lennon signing a player from the same agency as Offy.

And effy?

[1875STEVE]

I don’t understand the theory that we’re weaker than last season in the slightest. We have brought in 7 players who IMO are all of a good enough standard to play important roles in any matchday squad this season. We lost 11 players in the summer but only 3 of them played any sort of major part in the season and especially under hecky those being Milligan omeonga and mcnulty.

Omeonga has been replaced with Scott Allan both players IMO hecky will see as the main attacking CM on the left of the three and for me Scott Allan wins that duel every day of the week.

Milligan has now been replaced with Vela, vela comes in with a very good reputation and seems a bit of a coup. I liked Milligan and would have happily seen him stay but vela appears to have much more energy which hecky virtually states was the reason he let Milligan go. For me that’s 2-0 to the new signings.

Finally Mark McNulty has been replaced with Doidge, this one for me is 50/50 McNulty came in and done a good job for us, but let’s not forget that for half his loan spell he didn’t score and really wasn’t influencing games at all, he had an excellent start to his loan spell and for what it’s worth I would have taken him back(would still like to). So far I’ve liked what I’ve seen from doidge and think he will score plenty goals from the good delivery Allan mallan can provide from set plays and also Boyle and Horgan from wide areas, he will also offer a very good Ariel threat when we need to get up the park quickly so for me like I said 50/50. I’ll say 3-1 to the new signings in terms of starting 11 players.

Our other recruits in Maxwell, James, Jackson and newell have seen us directly replace bogdan, strengthen our defence along with porteous coming back and newell adding another option wide or also as a centre mid in the Scott Allan role on the left of CM.

Players who have left that haven’t been mentioned, Lewis Allan(1 start and 3/4 sub apps0 goals) Marvin Bartley(big hero but hardly featured) Ross Laidlaw(didn’t feature last season) Thomas Ageypong (11 appearances 1 goal) Miquel Nelom (3 appearances) Johnathon Spector( 1 sub appearance) Gael Bigarama ( 1 sub appearance).

An additional point would also be we have the emergence of Oli Shaw with a full seasons experience and now a proper first team player( like it or not he scored important goals and had a good return last year) Fraser Murray who has been my pick of Pre season and sean Mackie all now first team players with Josh Campbell and Ben Stirling now filling the role of “youngsters”.

I’d imagine come st mirren our starting 11 and bench will look like this,

Marciano
Gray Hanlon McGregor Mackie
Mallan vela Allan
Boyle. Doidge Horgan

Bench: maxwell Jackson James newell shaw kamberi murray.

That’s with Stevenson slivka and porteous out injured.

For me that’s a very strong squad of 21 players with the likes of Whittaker Stirling and Campbell supplementing it and a squad more than capable of finishing top 4

Outstanding post.

The only thing id say is, I've a feeling McGregor will be back-up, and it will be Jackson.

I think James will play quite a part due to Gray's tendency to pick up injuries.

[Borderhibbie76]

Although I can’t see it, does anyone think that we might be in for Stevie May?Pray to God no...utter garbage

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[Springbank]

More the case you have no idea what a journeyman is.

Sounds like you're content.

I'm not convinced in the least.
That's football.
I reserve the right to hold the opinion though, and you yours, but I am disappointed in a number of the signings and the lethargic football (2+ hours without a goal in open play v Stirling & alloa suggests something needs worked on, pronto).

All want the Hibs to do well so hope to see better v arbroath Tuesday.

[brog]

I don’t understand the theory that we’re weaker than last season in the slightest. We have brought in 7 players who IMO are all of a good enough standard to play important roles in any matchday squad this season. We lost 11 players in the summer but only 3 of them played any sort of major part in the season and especially under hecky those being Milligan omeonga and mcnulty.

Omeonga has been replaced with Scott Allan both players IMO hecky will see as the main attacking CM on the left of the three and for me Scott Allan wins that duel every day of the week.

Milligan has now been replaced with Vela, vela comes in with a very good reputation and seems a bit of a coup. I liked Milligan and would have happily seen him stay but vela appears to have much more energy which hecky virtually states was the reason he let Milligan go. For me that’s 2-0 to the new signings.

Finally Mark McNulty has been replaced with Doidge, this one for me is 50/50 McNulty came in and done a good job for us, but let’s not forget that for half his loan spell he didn’t score and really wasn’t influencing games at all, he had an excellent start to his loan spell and for what it’s worth I would have taken him back(would still like to). So far I’ve liked what I’ve seen from doidge and think he will score plenty goals from the good delivery Allan mallan can provide from set plays and also Boyle and Horgan from wide areas, he will also offer a very good Ariel threat when we need to get up the park quickly so for me like I said 50/50. I’ll say 3-1 to the new signings in terms of starting 11 players.

Our other recruits in Maxwell, James, Jackson and newell have seen us directly replace bogdan, strengthen our defence along with porteous coming back and newell adding another option wide or also as a centre mid in the Scott Allan role on the left of CM.

Players who have left that haven’t been mentioned, Lewis Allan(1 start and 3/4 sub apps0 goals) Marvin Bartley(big hero but hardly featured) Ross Laidlaw(didn’t feature last season) Thomas Ageypong (11 appearances 1 goal) Miquel Nelom (3 appearances) Johnathon Spector( 1 sub appearance) Gael Bigarama ( 1 sub appearance).

An additional point would also be we have the emergence of Oli Shaw with a full seasons experience and now a proper first team player( like it or not he scored important goals and had a good return last year) Fraser Murray who has been my pick of Pre season and sean Mackie all now first team players with Josh Campbell and Ben Stirling now filling the role of “youngsters”.

I’d imagine come st mirren our starting 11 and bench will look like this,

Marciano
Gray Hanlon McGregor Mackie
Mallan vela Allan
Boyle. Doidge Horgan

Bench: maxwell Jackson James newell shaw kamberi murray.

That’s with Stevenson slivka and porteous out injured.

For me that’s a very strong squad of 21 players with the likes of Whittaker Stirling and Campbell supplementing it and a squad more than capable of finishing top 4


Are you sure you're on the right forum? Far too factual, logical & sensible.

[Greenworld]

It will click today and we will win very comfortably.Here is the thing PH has not yet started anything like the team that will be close to the starting 11 .
Only then will we see if the players will gel quickly and look like a unit.
All we have seen so far is warm up matches.
From here on in I expect to see our so called full strengh line ups being used what ever that is to be.
For what it's worth I don't think we are done bringing players in or leaving .
I fully expect flo to leave and possibly another but flo could be key to getting the players that hibs want in .

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[Wilson]

And effy?

Sounds Iffy.

[BoomtownHibees]

Sounds like you're content.

I'm not convinced in the least.
That's football.
I reserve the right to hold the opinion though, and you yours, but I am disappointed in a number of the signings and the lethargic football (2+ hours without a goal in open play v Stirling & alloa suggests something needs worked on, pronto).

All want the Hibs to do well so hope to see better v arbroath Tuesday.

Not being convinced yet is fine, I’m not sure if anybody is but to call them journeymen is just wrong. That’s not an opinion, it just seems as if you don’t know what the word actually means

[KeithTheHibby]

Although I can’t see it, does anyone think that we might be in for Stevie May?

Rather we were in for Theresa May.

[GloryGlory]

Rather we were in for Theresa May.

No deal is better than a bad deal. :greengrin

[Speedway]

Rather we were in for Theresa May.

I read that wrong at first. Thank goodness I read it again.

[Billy Whizz]

Reading on the Evening News website that 2 of the young lads have gone on loan to Civil Service Strollers
Good move for the young guys

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-development-duo-join-civil-service-strollers-on-loan-1-4968597

[Brightside]

Reading on the Evening News website that 2 of the young lads have gone on loan to Civil Service Strollers
Good move for the young guys

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-development-duo-join-civil-service-strollers-on-loan-1-4968597

Callum had an outstanding first game for them.

[MacGruber]

So the transfer business is done which leaves us with a rubbish team:-

Marciano - voted best keeper since 2000

Gray - voted best RB since 2000, legend and leader of men

McGregor - strong experienced class defender that never gives the ball away

Hanlon - ball playing centre half and club legend, Hibs man

Stevenson - Scotland international, Mr consistency, club legend, won all the cups

Porteous - going to be best defender of the lot, future captain of Hibs and Scotland.

Boyle - Australian international speed merchant now one of our most important players

Allan - 3rd stint coming, previous 2 sensational. Oozes class.

Vela - Impressive CV, held in high regard from Bolton fans.

Slivka - full internationalist class footballer


Horgan - dynamic, improving, scored best goal seen at Tynie last season

Kamberi - others looking with a 2 million price tag. Proven player, big player on form

Fraser Murray coming through the ranks, Shaw with loads of potential

Not counting the new players still to get up to speed.

..... Rubbish

[Speedway]

So the transfer business is done which leaves us with a rubbish team:-

Marciano - voted best keeper since 2000

Gray - voted best RB since 2000, legend and leader of men

McGregor - strong experienced class defender that never gives the ball away

Hanlon - ball playing centre half and club legend, Hibs man

Stevenson - Scotland international, Mr consistency, club legend, won all the cups

Porteous - going to be best defender of the lot, future captain of Hibs and Scotland.

Boyle - Australian international speed merchant now one of our most important players

Allan - 3rd stint coming, previous 2 sensational. Oozes class.

Vela - Impressive CV, held in high regard from Bolton fans.

Slivka - full internationalist class footballer


Horgan - dynamic, improving, scored best goal seen at Tynie last season

Kamberi - others looking with a 2 million price tag. Proven player, big player on form

Fraser Murray coming through the ranks, Shaw with loads of potential

Not counting the new players still to get up to speed.

..... Rubbish

James?

Jackson?

Doidge?

[My_Wife_Camille]

So the transfer business is done which leaves us with a rubbish team:-

Marciano - voted best keeper since 2000

Gray - voted best RB since 2000, legend and leader of men

McGregor - strong experienced class defender that never gives the ball away

Hanlon - ball playing centre half and club legend, Hibs man

Stevenson - Scotland international, Mr consistency, club legend, won all the cups

Porteous - going to be best defender of the lot, future captain of Hibs and Scotland.

Boyle - Australian international speed merchant now one of our most important players

Allan - 3rd stint coming, previous 2 sensational. Oozes class.

Vela - Impressive CV, held in high regard from Bolton fans.

Slivka - full internationalist class footballer


Horgan - dynamic, improving, scored best goal seen at Tynie last season

Kamberi - others looking with a 2 million price tag. Proven player, big player on form

Fraser Murray coming through the ranks, Shaw with loads of potential

Not counting the new players still to get up to speed.

..... Rubbish
An excellent, well balanced post

[badabing67]

James?

Jackson?

Doidge?

Don't forget Newell ?

[Blaster]

James?

Jackson?

Doidge?

Maybe too early to make a fair judgement?

[Since452]

So the transfer business is done which leaves us with a rubbish team:-

Marciano - voted best keeper since 2000

Gray - voted best RB since 2000, legend and leader of men

McGregor - strong experienced class defender that never gives the ball away

Hanlon - ball playing centre half and club legend, Hibs man

Stevenson - Scotland international, Mr consistency, club legend, won all the cups

Porteous - going to be best defender of the lot, future captain of Hibs and Scotland.

Boyle - Australian international speed merchant now one of our most important players

Allan - 3rd stint coming, previous 2 sensational. Oozes class.

Vela - Impressive CV, held in high regard from Bolton fans.

Slivka - full internationalist class footballer


Horgan - dynamic, improving, scored best goal seen at Tynie last season

Kamberi - others looking with a 2 million price tag. Proven player, big player on form

Fraser Murray coming through the ranks, Shaw with loads of potential

Not counting the new players still to get up to speed.

..... Rubbish

Shhhhh... we're all doomed remember

[MacGruber]

James?

Jackson?

Doidge?

I thought too early to judge the new fella's. Only counted Vela as he is kind of proven at a good level

Did miss out the fans and players player of the year/top goalscorer Mallan though... oops

[Springbank]

I thought too early to judge the new fella's. Only counted Vela as he is kind of proven at a good level

Did miss out the fans and players player of the year/top goalscorer Mallan though... oops

I think all Hibs fans *hope* they do well.

Stirling was a real shock to the system though and that one crap result has put us up against the 8 ball - we can't run and hide from that.

People will be much more reassured IF this team of Hecky's puts Arbroath to the sword tomorrow night.

Let's face it, motivation cannot surely be a problem for this one - a cup we have a chance of winning this season (on paper). But it's currently on a tightrope and Tuesday night is must win.

Like I say, I think all Hibs fans *hope* we do well here - but we're not on easy street by any means and the most important game (as ever) is the next one.

[hibbie02]

So the transfer business is done which leaves us with a rubbish team:-

Marciano - voted best keeper since 2000

Gray - voted best RB since 2000, legend and leader of men

McGregor - strong experienced class defender that never gives the ball away

Hanlon - ball playing centre half and club legend, Hibs man

Stevenson - Scotland international, Mr consistency, club legend, won all the cups

Porteous - going to be best defender of the lot, future captain of Hibs and Scotland.

Boyle - Australian international speed merchant now one of our most important players

Allan - 3rd stint coming, previous 2 sensational. Oozes class.

Vela - Impressive CV, held in high regard from Bolton fans.

Slivka - full internationalist class footballer


Horgan - dynamic, improving, scored best goal seen at Tynie last season

Kamberi - others looking with a 2 million price tag. Proven player, big player on form

Fraser Murray coming through the ranks, Shaw with loads of potential

Not counting the new players still to get up to speed.

..... Rubbish

So what does your list have to do with the current transfer business? Apart from Allan (who signed a pre-contract in January) and Vela, all were here last season and none signed by Hecky. We haven't even see Vela yet. What we have seen have been less than impressive. None have had anyone saying they are quality signings. The problem is that so many of those you list are injured or still recovering from injury. We don't have a team that compares to last season at this point in time (see injuries) and Hecky says we are done. In that case, we are not in a good place.

[SquashedFrogg]

So what does your list have to do with the current transfer business? Apart from Allan (who signed a pre-contract in January) and Vela, all were here last season and none signed by Hecky. We haven't even see Vela yet. What we have seen have been less than impressive. None have had anyone saying they are quality signings. The problem is that so many of those you list are injured or still recovering from injury. We don't have a team that compares to last season at this point in time (see injuries) and Hecky says we are done. In that case, we are not in a good place.

So you're saying the players listed, added to the new additions, put us in a bad place?

[hibbie02]

So you're saying the players listed, added to the new additions, put us in a bad place?

No I am saying we have too many first team regulars injured, we have not replaced players of the quality of McNulty and Omeonga, we have an imbalanced midfield and they new guys appear to be less than we hoped for. The Hecky says we are done in the transfer market (if we believe him).

Gray - Injured
Stevenson - Injured
Porto - Still recovering
Squirrel - Recovering but still not fit
Slivka - Injured

That is practically half a team.

[SquashedFrogg]

No I am saying we have too many first team regulars injured, we have not replaced players of the quality of McNulty and Omeonga, we have an imbalanced midfield and they new guys appear to be less than we hoped for. The Hecky says we are done in the transfer market (if we believe him).

Gray - Injured
Stevenson - Injured
Porto - Still recovering
Squirrel - Recovering but still not fit
Slivka - Injured

That is practically half a team.

I hear you mate. FWIW it genuinely don't think we've finished our business. I'd expect another striker and midfielder in.

Re: Injuries, they're not long-term so we will have to suck it up. Very unfortunate but not much we can do.

[SHODAN]

There is no way we're done. Hecky isn't an idiot.

[SMAXXA]

Far to many writing off the new lads before they have even kicked a ball in anger really. Yes they have featured in some pre season games but give them a chance. Hardly been in the building a month and folk have them written off. They might be a massive success or let down but I will reserve judgement on that for a few months yet.

What I also thinks missing for some is who said all of these were signed to replace existing squad members? Maybe some were signed as good back up / on par with the likes of gray, the centre half’s etc? I get we all want quality players but we also need to be mindful of what that actually is at our level and budget. We lost the likes of Nelom, Mavrias, Johnson, Gauld, Allan, etc who all didn’t give us much in terms of a first team starters so I’d say the boys brought in are as a minimum to offer more than these which were signings of the previous recruitment where these lads seem to be PH signings.

Plenty time yet to bring in a couple of others and I’m sure we will.

[Inconsequential]

Far to many writing off the new lads before they have even kicked a ball in anger really. Yes they have featured in some pre season games but give them a chance. Hardly been in the building a month and folk have them written off. They might be a massive success or let down but I will reserve judgement on that for a few months yet.

What I also thinks missing for some is who said all of these were signed to replace existing squad members? Maybe some were signed as good back up / on par with the likes of gray, the centre half’s etc? I get we all want quality players but we also need to be mindful of what that actually is at our level and budget. We lost the likes of Nelom, Mavrias, Johnson, Gauld, Allan, etc who all didn’t give us much in terms of a first team starters so I’d say the boys brought in are as a minimum to offer more than these which were signings of the previous recruitment where these lads seem to be PH signings.

Plenty time yet to bring in a couple of others and I’m sure we will. The new lads have already been judged and written off by many experts SMAXXA. Why are you being so rational? They're hopeless can you not see that? Many said Adam Bogdan was the worst keeper they had ever seen at this stage last season and he turned out to be an excellent keeper imo.

What players from last season have we not replaced? McNulty? Omeonga? Bogdan? We have Scott Allan, Doidge, Vela, Maxwell. As you say now is not the time to judge.

[ancient hibee]

So the transfer business is done which leaves us with a rubbish team:-

Marciano - voted best keeper since 2000

Gray - voted best RB since 2000, legend and leader of men

McGregor - strong experienced class defender that never gives the ball away

Hanlon - ball playing centre half and club legend, Hibs man

Stevenson - Scotland international, Mr consistency, club legend, won all the cups

Porteous - going to be best defender of the lot, future captain of Hibs and Scotland.

Boyle - Australian international speed merchant now one of our most important players

Allan - 3rd stint coming, previous 2 sensational. Oozes class.

Vela - Impressive CV, held in high regard from Bolton fans.

Slivka - full internationalist class footballer


Horgan - dynamic, improving, scored best goal seen at Tynie last season

Kamberi - others looking with a 2 million price tag. Proven player, big player on form

Fraser Murray coming through the ranks, Shaw with loads of potential

Not counting the new players still to get up to speed.

..... Rubbish

Why do so many fans miss out the midfielder with more goals and assists than anyone in the team?

[Inconsequential]

Why do so many fans miss out the midfielder with more goals and assists than anyone in the team? He's rubbish old fella that's why! Rubbish! Do you hear me? Rubbish! :wink:

[Since452]

There seems to be an unrealistic expectation that new signings will hit the ground running like they've always been here. Maybe different in the case of Scott Allan as he knows the club inside out but the other 6 lads were brought in early in the window for that reason. They need time to get settled at a new club, home, city and country! I think Doidge and James are sharing a flat together at the moment for instance which will be good for them. People forget players are only human and take time to adjust. I've been as frustrated as anyone with the two Betfed games but I'm willing to give this group a chance. They're only going to get better.

[The 90+2]

There is no way we're done. Hecky isn't an idiot.

I don’t think he will want to be seen as a failure up here so he must be pushing for more signings.

[Inconsequential]

There seems to be an unrealistic expectation that new signings will hit the ground running like they've always been here. Maybe different in the case of Scott Allan as he knows the club inside out but the other 6 lads were brought in early in the window for that reason. They need time to get settled at a new club, home, city and country! I think Doidge and James are sharing a flat together at the moment for instance which will be good for them. People forget players are only human and take time to adjust. I've been as frustrated as anyone with the two Betfed games but I'm willing to give this group a chance. They're only going to get better. Correct.

[K-Zazu]

There seems to be an unrealistic expectation that new signings will hit the ground running like they've always been here. Maybe different in the case of Scott Allan as he knows the club inside out but the other 6 lads were brought in early in the window for that reason. They need time to get settled at a new club, home, city and country! I think Doidge and James are sharing a flat together at the moment for instance which will be good for them. People forget players are only human and take time to adjust. I've been as frustrated as anyone with the two Betfed games but I'm willing to give this group a chance. They're only going to get better.

How do u know they are going to get better though?

[SquashedFrogg]

How do u know they are going to get better though?

Because we take the views of PH more seriously than those who have barely seen 5 minutes of them?

[04Sauzee]

Jack Grimmer who was rumoured to be signing for us earlier in the window has signed for Wycombe Wanderers

[Tug Wilson]

I'm liking the change in tone on this thread. Few more people saying wait and see. Certainly too many previous posters expecting instant success from the new players.

Personally been on holiday so not got along to watch the team in the flesh. Looking like I will be at the Newcastle game and the St Mirren one. Will see for myself how the squad is shaping up.

However, what a lot of people seem to be forgetting is that Heckingbottom wants to build a team / squad. He is looking to get players in that he can teach to play the game as he sees it. Apparently a lot of the players really enjoyed the emphasis in training on the tactic side once he came in.

Some players will take time to get it others not so much.

Instant success costs a lot of money and even then isn't guaranteed.

[Stuart93]

There seems to be an unrealistic expectation that new signings will hit the ground running like they've always been here. Maybe different in the case of Scott Allan as he knows the club inside out but the other 6 lads were brought in early in the window for that reason. They need time to get settled at a new club, home, city and country! I think Doidge and James are sharing a flat together at the moment for instance which will be good for them. People forget players are only human and take time to adjust. I've been as frustrated as anyone with the two Betfed games but I'm willing to give this group a chance. They're only going to get better.

Don’t be silly, don’t you know these guys are robots. Lower league journeymen crap. Heckingbottom will be our a job by xmas and we’re all doomed...🙄

[ahibby]

I am bothered by the attitude that at this stage in the season, actually it hasn't really started, we should be blowing the lower league teams out of the water. There would be no point to this league cup format if that happened. The format is such so as to give the lower league teams some kind of chance therefore hope. Without hope there would be no point. Its in all of our interest to strengthen football in all our leagues and generate more interest in our sport in our country. I say stop being selfish and look at the big picture and long run. The season is a marathon and not a sprint.

[Inconsequential]

Don’t be silly, don’t you know these guys are robots. Lower league journeymen crap. Heckingbottom will be our a job by xmas and we’re all doomed...🙄 Once again thanks for your input Pvt. Fraser... :wink:

[we are hibs]

I am bothered by the attitude that at this stage in the season, actually it hasn't really started, we should be blowing the lower league teams out of the water. There would be no point to this league cup format if that happened. The format is such so as to give the lower league teams some kind of chance therefore hope. Without hope there would be no point. Its in all of our interest to strengthen football in all our leagues and generate more interest in our sport in our country. I say stop being selfish and look at the big picture and long run. The season is a marathon and not a sprint.

Plenty other sides currently involved in the league cup seem to be managing to sweep aside their lower league opponents with ease. Motherwell being one.

[ahibby]

Plenty other sides currently involved in the league cup seem to be managing to sweep aside their lower league opponents with ease. Motherwell being one.

How many injured players do they have and how many youngsters are they breaking in. You said plenty then mention one? As I said it is a Marathon not a sprint. We will see which team accomplishes more this season Hibs or Motherwell.

[Inconsequential]

Plenty other sides currently involved in the league cup seem to be managing to sweep aside their lower league opponents with ease. Motherwell being one. St Mirren ain't doing that well... St Johnstone...

[tonyrougier123]

How many injured players do they have and how many youngsters are they breaking in. You said plenty then mention one? As I said it is a Marathon not a sprint. We will see which team accomplishes more this season Hibs or Motherwell.

Hibs should be blowing part timers like stirling out the water!it doesn't matter how you spin it.

The high press energetic football we where told would be a signature stamp of a heckingbottom side is not yet evident.and teams will come alot more prepared for the lethargic tired looking performances that has been reported by many so far.

At the point we are at we should be buzzing and raring to go but it feels a bit flat tbh.

The signings made have added no flair thus far.and they where first picks we are being told we where lucky to attract.and the only thing I can say of them by other peoples point of view is the signings mostly will be lucky to be in the first team.

I dont buy this early doors stuff.signs should be there.heckingbottom managed the alloa game well by making the right changes at h/t.but it was meant to be a dire watch.and spl teams will have us beat on that first half showing before changes are made.

I hope the new signings become more than sqaud fillers from mostly relegated teams.but lets not beat about the bush,the transfer window so far has been dissapointing.

[04Sauzee]

Hibs should be blowing part timers like stirling out the water!it doesn't matter how you spin it.

The high press energetic football we where told would be a signature stamp of a heckingbottom side is not yet evident.and teams will come alot more prepared for the lethargic tired looking performances that has been reported by many so far.

At the point we are at we should be buzzing and raring to go but it feels a bit flat tbh.

The signings made have added no flair thus far.and they where first picks we are being told we where lucky to attract.and the only thing I can say of them by other peoples point of view is the signings mostly will be lucky to be in the first team.

I dont buy this early doors stuff.signs should be there.heckingbottom managed the alloa game well by making the right changes at h/t.but it was meant to be a dire watch.and spl teams will have us beat on that first half showing before changes are made.

I hope the new signings become more than sqaud fillers from mostly relegated teams.but lets not beat about the bush,the transfer window so far has been dissapointing.

Should we still turn up for games against Celtic and The Rangers? Huge budget vs small budget

[Heisenberg]

Wigan and Barnsley interested in Oli Shaw.

[tonyrougier123]

Should we still turn up for games against Celtic and The Rangers? Huge budget vs small budget

Why would you not turn up?? 😕

[badabing67]

Wigan and Barnsley interested in Oli Shaw.

Think we should keep him doubt he will go to many young players gone south and stalled their careers better of staying here imo

[Inconsequential]

Wigan and Barnsley interested in Oli Shaw. Can't possibly be interested in Oli Shaw. He needs to be put out on loan to some Scottish lower league part timers...

[we are hibs]

Wigan and Barnsley interested in Oli Shaw.

I'm assuming this would be permanent. If we get a decent offer he can go. I think there are better third choice strikers out there and we can't wait forever on him breaking into the first team consistently and performing well on a regular basis.

[CapitalGreen]

I dont buy this early doors stuff.signs should be there.heckingbottom managed the alloa game well by making the right changes at h/t.but it was meant to be a dire watch.and spl teams will have us beat on that first half showing before changes are made.

Presumably these ‘SPL’ teams who you refer to include the likes of St Mirren, St Johnstone, Hearts, Kilmarnock, Aberdeen, Hamilton and Livi who have had equally uninspiring pre-seasons, cup campaigns? Why is it in your scenario they will have supposedly improved and gone up a gear by the time the league campaign starts but we won’t have?

[Stuart93]

Wigan and Barnsley interested in Oli Shaw.

If it’s a permanent id be looking for a decent offer from either

[CapitalGreen]

Wigan and Barnsley interested in Oli Shaw.

Looked noticeably stronger in his brief appearance on Saturday. Would be good to see him start tomorrow night.

[J-C]

I'm assuming this would be permanent. If we get a decent offer he can go. I think there are better third choice strikers out there and we can't wait forever on him breaking into the first team consistently and performing well on a regular basis.


This the young lad who's just turned 21 a couple of months ago, yea waiting years on these Development players is bloody frustrating eh?

[supermcginn]

Wigan and Barnsley interested in Oli Shaw.
That'll be him away. Heck isnt keen on him.

[tonyrougier123]

Presumably these ‘SPL’ teams who you refer to include the likes of St Mirren, St Johnstone, Hearts, Kilmarnock, Aberdeen, Hamilton and Livi who have had equally uninspiring pre-seasons, cup campaigns? Why is it in your scenario they will have supposedly improved and gone up a gear by the time the league campaign starts but we won’t have?

I think livingston, st mirren will be a considerable step up from stirling naw?

Btw you mentioned the teams,but I wouldnae fancy starting like that at ibrox second game or first derby in september like saturday.

You think we've done well in the market/pre season?

[we are hibs]

This the young lad who's just turned 21 a couple of months ago, yea waiting years on these Development players is bloody frustrating eh?

Well by 21 he hasn't cemented a first team place and doesn't look like doing so. He's been in the first team for a year and a half now. He hasn't featured as much under heckingbottom either. Don't know why you're being so arsey about it.

[J-C]

Well by 21 he hasn't cemented a first team place and doesn't look like doing so. He's been in the first team for a year and a half now. He hasn't featured as much under heckingbottom either. Don't know why you're being so arsey about it.


Maybe because players don't always hit their peaks at the age of 19-20 and if they do it's because they're super talented. Kamberi came here as a 23 year old who had done very little in his career till now, Doidge has only really started to show his best form in the past 2 years, he's now 26.

[Billy Whizz]

Maybe because players don't always hit their peaks at the age of 19-20 and if they do it's because they're super talented. Kamberi came here as a 23 year old who had done very little in his career till now, Doidge has only really started to show his best form in the past 2 years, he's now 26.

I’m hoping this is just agent talk.

[CapitalGreen]

I think livingston, st mirren will be a considerable step up from stirling naw?

Btw you mentioned the teams,but I wouldnae fancy starting like that at ibrox second game or first derby in september like saturday.

You think we've done well in the market/pre season?

Do you genuinely think we’ll start an away game at Tynie in September like we did on Saturday?

[tonyrougier123]

Do you genuinely think we’ll start an away game at Tynie in September like we did on Saturday?

First derby is at home 👍.and I hope not!!

Have you seen anything thats suggests we will start well?

[Borderhibbie76]

Plenty other sides currently involved in the league cup seem to be managing to sweep aside their lower league opponents with ease. Motherwell being one.And what about St Johnstone, St Mirren, Hamilton??

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[Allant1981]

And what about St Johnstone, St Mirren, Hamilton??

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Apart from them!!!

[SMAXXA]

Hibs should be blowing part timers like stirling out the water!it doesn't matter how you spin it.

The high press energetic football we where told would be a signature stamp of a heckingbottom side is not yet evident.and teams will come alot more prepared for the lethargic tired looking performances that has been reported by many so far.

At the point we are at we should be buzzing and raring to go but it feels a bit flat tbh.

The signings made have added no flair thus far.and they where first picks we are being told we where lucky to attract.and the only thing I can say of them by other peoples point of view is the signings mostly will be lucky to be in the first team.

I dont buy this early doors stuff.signs should be there.heckingbottom managed the alloa game well by making the right changes at h/t.but it was meant to be a dire watch.and spl teams will have us beat on that first half showing before changes are made.

I hope the new signings become more than sqaud fillers from mostly relegated teams.but lets not beat about the bush,the transfer window so far has been dissapointing.

Rubbish, we never looked in danger and had plenty chances we just couldn’t take them which happened at Stirling aswell. Folk pretending these games have been an even contest is daft. I’d be more worried if we weren’t creating chances and hanging on defending for our lives against these teams.

Bit more fire power and we will be fine. Boyle for example isn’t anywhere near up to full speed and will be a far bigger threat in a few weeks

[tonyrougier123]

Rubbish, we never looked in danger and had plenty chances we just couldn’t take them which happened at Stirling aswell. Folk pretending these games have been an even contest is daft. I’d be more worried if we weren’t creating chances and hanging on defending for our lives against these teams.

Bit more fire power and we will be fine. Boyle for example isn’t anywhere near up to full speed and will be a far bigger threat in a few weeks
Ok.😕

[Iain G]

And what about St Johnstone, St Mirren, Hamilton??

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Never mind Kilmarnock!!!

[Brightside]

Gregor Woods has signed for Spartans on a dev loan for the season.

[CockneyRebel]

Plenty other sides currently involved in the league cup seem to be managing to sweep aside their lower league opponents with ease. Motherwell being one.

How many new signings at Motherwell?

[Billy Whizz]

Gregor Woods has signed for Spartans on a dev loan for the season.

Good move for him Underscore, didn’t play as much as I thought last season,?due to some injuries
Hope it goes well for him

[The 90+2]

Rubbish, we never looked in danger and had plenty chances we just couldn’t take them which happened at Stirling aswell. Folk pretending these games have been an even contest is daft. I’d be more worried if we weren’t creating chances and hanging on defending for our lives against these teams.

Bit more fire power and we will be fine. Boyle for example isn’t anywhere near up to full speed and will be a far bigger threat in a few weeks

We couldn’t break down Stirling Albion after they scored. The same Stirling Albion that in their next two games to part time sides lost 9-1 on Agg. That is cold hard facts, we drew with one of the *****st sides in Scotland m. Fire power means sod all if chances aren’t being created.

[brog]

How many new signings at Motherwell?

Quite a few, their MOTM, Jermaine Hylton, against Morton was signed from Solihull Moors! Posters on here who're upset at us signing tier 3 players will no doubt soon be asking why we didn't sign this tier 5 player!

[The 90+2]

How many new signings at Motherwell?

9

[The 90+2]

Quite a few, their MOTM, Jermaine Hylton, against Morton was signed from Solihull Moors! Posters on here who're upset at us signing tier 3 players will no doubt soon be asking why we didn't sign this tier 5 player!

There’s not many people upset about where the signings have come from as far I’ve seen. It’s what they have produced so far.

[Borderhibbie76]

Apart from them!!![emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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[SHODAN]

We better be interested in a few strikers if both Kamberi and Shaw are being linked away.

[04Sauzee]

Gregor Woods has signed for Spartans on a dev loan for the season.

Embarrassingly I don't think I have heard of this young guy. Hope the loan works out well for him.

[The 90+2]

We better be interested in a few strikers if both Kamberi and Shaw are being linked away.

It opens a lot more doors to guys coming in that’s for sure. I’m surprised Oli is allowed to go on a permanent if he goes.

[The_Horde]

Quite a few, their MOTM, Jermaine Hylton, against Morton was signed from Solihull Moors! Posters on here who're upset at us signing tier 3 players will no doubt soon be asking why we didn't sign this tier 5 player!

He looks decent too.

[BlackSheep]

Reading sign Charlie Adam... hopefully this will mean they need to get rid of players quickly to fund this.

[brog]

There’s not many people upset about where the signings have come from as far I’ve seen. It’s what they have produced so far.

Seriously?, I've seen many posts suggesting these players are not good enough for us, some before a ball was kicked.

[brog]

He looks decent too.

He certainly did!

[malcolm]

Hibs should be blowing part timers like stirling out the water!it doesn't matter how you spin it.

The high press energetic football we where told would be a signature stamp of a heckingbottom side is not yet evident.and teams will come alot more prepared for the lethargic tired looking performances that has been reported by many so far.

At the point we are at we should be buzzing and raring to go but it feels a bit flat tbh.

The signings made have added no flair thus far.and they where first picks we are being told we where lucky to attract.and the only thing I can say of them by other peoples point of view is the signings mostly will be lucky to be in the first team.

I dont buy this early doors stuff.signs should be there.heckingbottom managed the alloa game well by making the right changes at h/t.but it was meant to be a dire watch.and spl teams will have us beat on that first half showing before changes are made.

I hope the new signings become more than sqaud fillers from mostly relegated teams.but lets not beat about the bush,the transfer window so far has been dissapointing.

Read this a few times and maybe I’ll need one of those experts on Football Manager 2019 or whatever to explain it to me. But to me the high press sounds like not falling back when you lose the ball and instead pressing your opponent for the ball high up the pitch in their half. So when we have been playing a team kind of camped on the edge of their own box without the ball, I’m at a loss how we press.

The problem there is breaking them down not pressing for what you mostly already have. Course I’m bound to be wrong as I had to work out that a DM was not a department manager and an AM was not an attempt to tell the time or the assistant coach. Worked it out though its defender or attacker missing in action. :wink:

[JimBHibees]

First derby is at home 👍.and I hope not!!

Have you seen anything thats suggests we will start well?

Common sense would suggest we are going to be sharper than we are now when utilising a squad and changing formation mid game.

[The 90+2]

Seriously?, I've seen many posts suggesting these players are not good enough for us, some before a ball was kicked.

I’ve not seen many if any posts saying the players aren’t good enough before they’ve played. In fact with James, Doidge, Newell and Vela the exact opposite. I think it’s actually high expectation based on them being wanted or being at a not bad level has made expectations perhaps a little too high.

[Unseen work]

Be surprised if Blackburn, Wigan and Barnsley are actually after Shaw.

Maybe they see a lot of potential and available for cheap as Heckingbottom doesn’t seem to rate him? Not had much game time this pre season or even end of last when Heck came in.

What sort of fee could we attract for him? Or a player swap type deal?

[brog]

Be surprised if Blackburn, Wigan and Barnsley are actually after Shaw.

Maybe they see a lot of potential and available for cheap as Heckingbottom doesn’t seem to rate him? Not had much game time this pre season or even end of last when Heck came in.

What sort of fee could we attract for him? Or a player swap type deal?

We're being quoted as definitely keeping him & value him in 7 figures! Seems PH does rate him!

[Here’s Lucy!]

Be surprised if Blackburn, Wigan and Barnsley are actually after Shaw.

Maybe they see a lot of potential and available for cheap as Heckingbottom doesn’t seem to rate him? Not had much game time this pre season or even end of last when Heck came in.

What sort of fee could we attract for him? Or a player swap type deal?

Better a swap deal than a wee amount of money imo.

[ahibby]

Why would you not turn up?? 😕

Surely they should blow us out of the water considerung their size compared to us and at any stage of the season.

[CMac1988]

Shaw has that knack of being in the right place at the right time. It's what he then does that he needs to work on. Think this is the reason some want to see him go on loan for a season, the hope being that more 1st team football will allow him to hone the skills needed to progress.

[ahibby]

Maybe because players don't always hit their peaks at the age of 19-20 and if they do it's because they're super talented. Kamberi came here as a 23 year old who had done very little in his career till now, Doidge has only really started to show his best form in the past 2 years, he's now 26.
Its normal to peak between 24 and 28 but depends on the individual. Peter Cormack was in the side at 17. John Collins similar but they were exceptional. If OS goes i would feel it was our failure not his when he goes to a bigger club that is.

[ahibby]

We couldn’t break down Stirling Albion after they scored. The same Stirling Albion that in their next two games to part time sides lost 9-1 on Agg. That is cold hard facts, we drew with one of the *****st sides in Scotland m. Fire power means sod all if chances aren’t being created.

Different strategies and tactics comparing chalk with cheese. We beat Hearts 2 1 they beat Caley 4 0 so we should beat Caley 6 0 just it doesnt happen lime that. Differw t games different tactics. Besides in previous seasons weve lost in this cup to Stirling during the season but this is still pre season.

[04Sauzee]

Looks like Stevie May is about to sign for St johnstone on a free. Goof bit of business for them. Still think there is a player in there.

[tonyrougier123]

Surely they should blow us out of the water considerung their size compared to us and at any stage of the season.

Why have we went part-time?

[matty_f]

Read this a few times and maybe I’ll need one of those experts on Football Manager 2019 or whatever to explain it to me. But to me the high press sounds like not falling back when you lose the ball and instead pressing your opponent for the ball high up the pitch in their half. So when we have been playing a team kind of camped on the edge of their own box without the ball, I’m at a loss how we press.

The problem there is breaking them down not pressing for what you mostly already have. Course I’m bound to be wrong as I had to work out that a DM was not a department manager and an AM was not an attempt to tell the time or the assistant coach. Worked it out though its defender or attacker missing in action. :wink:

Thanks Malcolm, I as trying to find a way of asking that question. I think your point is right, by the way.

[tonyrougier123]

Read this a few times and maybe I’ll need one of those experts on Football Manager 2019 or whatever to explain it to me. But to me the high press sounds like not falling back when you lose the ball and instead pressing your opponent for the ball high up the pitch in their half. So when we have been playing a team kind of camped on the edge of their own box without the ball, I’m at a loss how we press.

The problem there is breaking them down not pressing for what you mostly already have. Course I’m bound to be wrong as I had to work out that a DM was not a department manager and an AM was not an attempt to tell the time or the assistant coach. Worked it out though its defender or attacker missing in action. :wink:
Stirling albion had 48% possesion hibs 52%.

That stat puts your theory to the test about teams camped.hibs never dominated possesion in that game.and stirling if camped kept possesion comfortably and were the only team to score in open play.

If hibs were playing high press it never worked.and stirling if camped at the back kept possession from hibs.

If hibs had say 68% possession id agree with you.but thats not the case here.what is suggested is hibs if high pressing ,failed to win the ball back adequately.

[BILLYHIBS]

Stirling albion had 48% possesion hibs 52%.

That stat puts your theory to the test about teams camped.hibs never dominated possesion in that game.and stirling if camped kept possesion comfortably and were the only team to score in open play.

If hibs were playing high press it never worked.and stirling if camped at the back kept possession from hibs.

If hibs had say 68% possession id agree with you.but thats not the case here.what is suggested is hibs if high pressing ,failed to win the ball back adequately.

The Stirling Albion Manager at Half Time asked his team to go out and win the second half

What a goal it was

Loads of hibbies in the crowd applauded

[Del Boy]

Former Hibs player Callum Booth signing for Bury from Dundee Utd.

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Im hearing hibs still looking at players and hecky might not be finished building.

[The 90+2]

Former Hibs player Callum Booth signing for Bury from Dundee Utd.

Good to see he’s still in pro’ football. There was chat of Boothy going part time to Arbroath.

[Hermit Crab]

Im hearing hibs still looking at players and hecky might not be finished building.


A blind man can see we still need players.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Im hearing hibs still looking at players and hecky might not be finished building.

Thank god for that

[SHODAN]

Former Hibs player Callum Booth signing for Bury from Dundee Utd.

Good to see he's still doing well.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Looks like Stevie May is about to sign for St johnstone on a free. Goof bit of business for them. Still think there is a player in there.

Is he not injury prone?

[Tarrahib]

The Stirling Albion Manager at Half Time asked his team to go out and win the second half

What a goal it was

Loads of hibbies in the crowd applauded
It was a good goal,but the player had all the time to score due our poor defending for a period in the second half.Hibs were all at sea.

[BILLYHIBS]

It was a good goal,but the player had all the time to score due our poor defending for a period in the second half.Hibs were all at sea.

:agree:

Very surprised Hecky did not make more than one change

Not like him

Anyway it’s over and done with

We move on to tonight

[Tarrahib]

:agree:

Very surprised Hecky did not make more than one change

Not like him

Anyway it’s over and done with

We move on to tonight
Yes.Tonight is the first game for the rest of our season.Lets do it in style.

[Since452]

Surely we're in for Gareth Bale? He's Welsh and Ron has the money. I don't think he'd be able to resist the Hecky hypnotism...emm i mean sales pitch.

[Heisenberg]

Omeonga won’t be back. Gone on loan to Cercle Brugge.

[SHODAN]

Omeonga won’t be back. Gone on loan to Cercle Brugge.

****.

[04Sauzee]

Omeonga won’t be back. Gone on loan to Cercle Brugge.

I didn't know there were 2 clubs in brugge. Good luck to him hope it works out well. Would have loved to see him back here

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Omeonga won’t be back. Gone on loan to Cercle Brugge.

Owned by AS Monaco according to wikipedia

[Brightside]

Omeonga won’t be back. Gone on loan to Cercle Brugge.

Gutted on that one. He wanted it, we wanted it. Just couldnt afford it.

[04Sauzee]

Gutted on that one. He wanted it, we wanted it. Just couldnt afford it.

Can't believe we have missed out on Omeonga, Ojo and Black!!! Ffs

[flash]

Vela looks a similar style of player with hopefully a goal threat thrown in.

[Barman Stanton]

Circle Brugge with their average attendance of just over 5k. Sooner our league gets a proper tv deal the better.

[Heisenberg]

I’m not sure he was as keen to come back as we thought. He spoke about missing family etc at the sponsors night at the end of last season. Not surprised to see him go back to Belgium.

[Wakeyhibee]

I know it's the Sun but Shaw being linked with Barnsley & Wigan. Good moves if he needs to bulk up some more :greengrin

[SHODAN]

We desperately need a midfielder and striker in.

[Brightside]

We desperately need a midfielder and striker in.

Both would be nice.... but we dont desperately need either.

[Heedersnvolleys]

Looks like Heck has been telling the truth so probably no Mcnulty either

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Omeonga won’t be back. Gone on loan to Cercle Brugge.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHpzPtlu1xY

[JDT]

I'm going to come in for stick but I'm not to bothered by Omeonga. He was a tidy player no doubt but I don't know if he was worth the wait to get on loan or potential value if we were to buy outright. This could be a breakout season for Campbell who from what I've seen is raw but has great potential. Only way to get better is to play and I hope him and Murray can come and make a impact on the first team

[SHODAN]

Both would be nice.... but we dont desperately need either.

We at the very least need a midfielder. I feel as though we're putting too much pressure on Vela to fix everything as we did Milligan last season.

[RossScott1991]

I’m not actually that bothered about Omeonga if I’m being totally honest. We have Allan and the emergence of Fraser Murray is in my opinion better. It’s not like Omeonga was bringing loads of assists to the team. Last couple times I’ve seen Murray he set up mcnulty with a brilliant ball through last game season v Aberdeen and also last weekend v Alloa for Doidge goal. Fully backing Murray to grab his chance this season.

We need a striker tho, and if we can sell either kamberi or shaw and use funds to bring in another striker and maybe another on loan I’d take it.

[SHODAN]

I’m not actually that bothered about Omeonga if I’m being totally honest. We have Allan and the emergence of Fraser Murray is in my opinion better. It’s not like Omeonga was bringing loads of assists to the team. Last couple times I’ve seen Murray he set up mcnulty with a brilliant ball through last game season v Aberdeen and also last weekend v Alloa for Doidge goal. Fully backing Murray to grab his chance this season.

We need a striker tho, and if we can sell either kamberi or shaw and use funds to bring in another striker and maybe another on loan I’d take it.

Fraser Murray coming through is a fair point. Hopefully he can kick on this season.

[One Day Soon]

We at the very least need a midfielder. I feel as though we're putting too much pressure on Vela to fix everything as we did Milligan last season.


Agreed.

None of what we've signed so far is particularly exciting - they may all turn out to be a really great blend that adds up to much more than the sum of their parts, but I don't see a 'match winner' or stand-out signing. That won't matter if we become a well-oiled machine that routinely puts other teams away, but performances so far suggest we are a distance away from that as yet.

We may also see a number of in-house graduates coming through and that could give us greater depth than at first appears.

However 'if' and 'may' are, as they say, doing quite a lot of heavy lifting in what I have written above. I think the balance of our midfield is patchy and our forward line is very sketchy. I will be delighted to eat mountains of humiliating humble pie on this. Gut instinct is a lack of goals and less possession than ideal this season.

[bigwheel]

Agreed.

None of what we've signed so far is particularly exciting - they may all turn out to be a really great blend that adds up to much more than the sum of their parts, but I don't see a 'match winner' or stand-out signing. That won't matter if we become a well-oiled machine that routinely puts other teams away, but performances so far suggest we are a distance away from that as yet.

We may also see a number of in-house graduates coming through and that could give us greater depth than at first appears.

However 'if' and 'may' are, as they say, doing quite a lot of heavy lifting in what I have written above. I think the balance of our midfield is patchy and our forward line is very sketchy. I will be delighted to eat mountains of humiliating humble pie on this. Gut instinct is a lack of goals and less possession than ideal this season.

Scott Allan ??

[One Day Soon]

Scott Allan ??

It is perhaps unfair but I kind of discount him because we already knew he was coming from a long way back. Daft I know as he is still a new player.

If we set him to one side though, everything else has me in my seat saying 'meh' and waiting to be made a horse's arse of, which I very much hope will happen.

[MWHIBBIES]

I don't think Omeonga was ever coming back, dunno why people thought so really, was nothing to suggest it was ever close.

[GreenCastle]

Gutted about Omeonga - thought he started to show real signs of improvement.

He has now gone and signed for a Belgian 1st Division team who gets crowds of 4,000 max a week and still on loan.

I’m not sure how Mallan, Allan and Omeonga would have played together but would have had 3 excellent ball players in there.

No comparison between Omeonga and Campbell - Omeonga having played for Belgium u21 and played in Serie A.

Been saying for a while not hopeful for McNulty as he has been offered more money down South.

[worcesterhibby]

Two more surprise signings to come I reckon. Striker in loan from an EPL side and another defensive midfielder. Might be nearer the end of the window though.

[Barman Stanton]

Gutted about Omeonga - thought he started to show real signs of improvement.

He has now gone and signed for a Belgian 2nd Division team who gets crowds of 4,000 max a week and still on loan.

I’m not sure how Mallan, Allan and Omeonga would have played together but would have had 3 excellent ball players in there.

Been saying for a while not hopeful for McNulty as he has been offered more money down South.

They are not a 2nd Div team.

[GreenCastle]

They are not a 2nd Div team.

My mistake.

1st Division team - does Belgium league pull in more money than our league too ??

[Barman Stanton]

My mistake.

1st Division team - does Belgium league pull in more money than our league too ??

I think their tv deal completely blows ours out the water.

[04Sauzee]

Two more surprise signings to come I reckon. Striker in loan from an EPL side and another defensive midfielder. Might be nearer the end of the window though.

Just your thoughts or have you heard any names?

[makaveli1875]

Blackburn and Wigan among several clubs interested in Oli Shaw. Surely not he's never going to make it according to the hibs.Net footballing experts. Scottish league 2 player all day long they say :greengrin

[04Sauzee]

I think their tv deal completely blows ours out the water.

Not sure how accurate this is?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_domestic_football_league_broadcast_deals_b y_country

[neil7908]

Circle Brugge with their average attendance of just over 5k. Sooner our league gets a proper tv deal the better.

Didn't hold up much of hope of getting him back but ridiculous to lose out to a club with a third of our fans.

We need to be holding to account the guys that run our game and demanding moves to ensure our game can compete with our leagues across Europe.

[Ozyhibby]

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[Ozyhibby]

Blackburn and Wigan among several clubs interested in Oli Shaw. Surely not he's never going to make it according to the hibs.Net footballing experts. Scottish league 2 player all day long they say :greengrin

Still think Shaw will come good. Far too early to let him go.


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[Barman Stanton]

Not sure how accurate this is?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_domestic_football_league_broadcast_deals_b y_country

Similar to what I have seen before. Being part of the UK is a massive hindrance for us where all the money gets pumped into England.

[malcolm]

Stirling albion had 48% possesion hibs 52%.

That stat puts your theory to the test about teams camped.hibs never dominated possesion in that game.and stirling if camped kept possesion comfortably and were the only team to score in open play.

If hibs were playing high press it never worked.and stirling if camped at the back kept possession from hibs.

If hibs had say 68% possession id agree with you.but thats not the case here.what is suggested is hibs if high pressing ,failed to win the ball back adequately.

Up to a point but that % of Stirling possession would have been mostly in their own half and barely ever into the the area near hibs’ goal. It also would have been broken down into a few minutes here and there as Hibs frequently regained possession. You might call it a high press but to me it seemed the domination of the game in the Stirling half near their goal with Hibs losing possession as can be expected when having to try things to break through a side putting 11 behind the ball in front of their box.

I’ll wait and see what a high press is when playing against a better side as I’m not surprised in the least that evidence of a high press is not there when playing a lesser quality side when also working on fitness and a variety of tactics during a pre-season but not friendly set of games.

[Cod Boy]

Cummings for hearts

[SHODAN]

Cummings for hearts

Where?

[04Sauzee]

Cummings for hearts

Not sure Hearts fans are to impressed

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Cummings for hearts

I would actually ****ing hate that

[cabbageandribs1875]

Not sure Hearts fans are to impressed



i'm sure that would change after his first goal for them

[GreenCastle]

Similar to what I have seen before. Being part of the UK is a massive hindrance for us where all the money gets pumped into England.

Wouldn’t matter is Scotland was independent or not.

Our TV deal would still be awful and possibly worse.

[jeffers]

I would actually ****ing hate that

Me too.

[Heisenberg]

Sure Cummings has been linked to Hearts in every window since he left and it’s not been true. He isn’t a Levein player. Don’t see it happening now.

[GreenCastle]

Cummings for hearts

Please no..

If he comes back to Scotland it must be Hibs or we deserve all we get.

[SHODAN]

Stick on to score in the first derby this season if he signs for us or them.

[worcesterhibby]

Sure Cummings has been linked to Hearts in every window since he left and it’s not been true. He isn’t a Levein player. Don’t see it happening now.

Levein would do it just to piss us off
Cummings would do it just for the attention

[Captain Trips]

Please no..

If he comes back to Scotland it must be Hibs or we deserve all we get.

Hardly done us any damage when with Sevco, this is Jason Cummings we are talking about and not Ronaldo.

[worcesterhibby]

Just your thoughts or have you heard any names?

No names

[Barman Stanton]

Wouldn’t matter is Scotland was independent or not.

Our TV deal would still be awful and possibly worse.

Well neither of us know if that is true or not. Wasnt after a political debate. Was more meaning as part of the British Isles, we are hindered by all the money going to England.

[04Sauzee]

The rumour is that cummings is at Tynecastle with Fraser Wishart, is Wishart his agent?

[Heisenberg]

The rumour is that cummings is at Tynecastle with Fraser Wishart, is Wishart his agent?

Might’ve changed but he used to be with Alan Houldsworth.

[MWHIBBIES]

Sure Cummings has been linked to Hearts in every window since he left and it’s not been true. He isn’t a Levein player. Don’t see it happening now.

How isn't he a Levein player? He would be a very solid replacement for Naismith.

[greenpaper55]

Similar to what I have seen before. Being part of the UK is a massive hindrance for us where all the money gets pumped into England.

Please explain!

[500miles]

How isn't he a Levein player? He would be a very solid replacement for Naismith.

He's nothing like Naismith.

[chippy]

Didn't hold up much of hope of getting him back but ridiculous to lose out to a club with a third of our fans.

We need to be holding to account the guys that run our game and demanding moves to ensure our game can compete with our leagues across Europe.
16 team league with splits for championship, Europe and relegation

[04Sauzee]

Might’ve changed but he used to be with Alan Houldsworth.

That's right and i though Wishart was the chairman of the players union or something?

[Heisenberg]

How isn't he a Levein player? He would be a very solid replacement for Naismith.

Because he’s a striker that actually scores goals? :greengrin

I just don’t see Levein liking him in his team. He’s not big or physical and won’t run for the team.

[Real Emerald]

Because he’s a striker that actually scores goals? :greengrin

I just don’t see Levein liking him in his team. He’s not big or physical and won’t run for the team.

Levein would do anything if it was to get it up us.

[Jim44]

Another stumbling block would be his inability to accept the pre-requisite hatred for Hibs.

[Barman Stanton]

Please explain!

Whats to explain? I just don't think being part of the British Isles helps us with a tv deal. Most countries are not part of an Island with a huge power in football. They have their own tv stations etc.

[Brightside]

How isn't he a Levein player? He would be a very solid replacement for Naismith.

Eh?

[Unseen work]

Not overly fussed about Omeonga.

Hes a not bad player but I don’t think he’s what we need.

Hes fully of energy and is sharp, but he’s not good enough defensively or offensively to cement a place in our team imo. We need a good defensively minded midfielder and a tricky/pacey winger to really kick on the team.

I just don’t see where Omeonga would have fit into the team, he would be a good option to have but I think the money saved on wages and fee would be better spent elsewhere.

Wish him all the best as he is a very likeable guy and gave his all for us.

[matty_f]

Would be gutted if Cummings went to Hearts, to be honest.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Wouldn’t matter is Scotland was independent or not.

Our TV deal would still be awful and possibly worse.

What would change would be the license to broadcast in an Indy Scotland and the retention of funds currently syphoned off by the BBC to pay for rights to sports we have no interest in.

Imagine SKY, Virgin, BT etc being told that their broadcast rights into Scotland would be regulated in relation to the revenue they raised. Investment would improve in Scottish sport not just football.

[007]

Cummings for hearts

Can't see him starting many matches for them. "Impact" sub more likely but I guess 15 mins here and there is more than he's been getting. Levein would probably start him v us though.

[Billy Whizz]

That's right and i though Wishart was the chairman of the players union or something?

He still is

[04Sauzee]

He still is

Cheers Billy, seems a strange rumour then, that's all it probably is then a rumour

[Since452]

Cummings to Hearts wouldn't worry me. I think he'll end up at St Mirren

[Mango Man]

Levein would do it just to piss us off
Cummings would do it just for the attention

I've always said this, he is just the type of guy to do something as outrageous as this, really would not like seeing him in a Hearts top at all.

[ancient hibee]

What would change would be the license to broadcast in an Indy Scotland and the retention of funds currently syphoned off by the BBC to pay for rights to sports we have no interest in.

Imagine SKY, Virgin, BT etc being told that their broadcast rights into Scotland would be regulated in relation to the revenue they raised. Investment would improve in Scottish sport not just football.

This is a weird argument.What sports that we are not interested in do the BBC syphon off money to?Don't understand what you mean re SKY etc.Do you mean revenue raised for the sports or revenue raised for the TV companies .If you mean they wouldn't get a license to broadcast unless they paid more money to a sport they'd just jigger off which is exactly what they did before with Scottish football.As we know they're not charities and will make a commercial decision.

[J-C]

The rumour is that cummings is at Tynecastle with Fraser Wishart, is Wishart his agent?

He played in an U23 game for Forest last night.

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Cummings is defo not at tynecastle

[BILLYHIBS]

Omeonga signs for Cercle Bruge

Apologies if already posted

[Here’s Lucy!]

He played in an U23 game for Forest last night.

He could still be at Tynecastle today though?

[MyJo]

Disappointed that Omeonga won't be coming back.

Murray has been performing well in pre-season so a good opportunity for him to kick-on and nail down a place in the team and I imagine we will dip into the loan market for a defensive midfielder once the Premiership & Championship transfer window closes to give us cover and options.

[SHODAN]

Does Murray have potential to be a box-to-box CM ala McGinn/Omeonga or is he more further forward? If the latter, will be tough to fit him and Malallan into the same team.

[marinello59]

Does Murray have potential to be a box-to-box CM ala McGinn/Omeonga or is he more further forward? If the latter, will be tough to fit him and Malallan into the same team.

I’m pretty sure that people have said that you can’t fit Mallan and any other midfielder mentioned in to the same team at some point on here. :greengrin

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Does Murray have potential to be a box-to-box CM ala McGinn/Omeonga or is he more further forward? If the latter, will be tough to fit him and Malallan into the same team.

The latter, is played as an attacking midfielder. Could be wrong but doesn’t look like he has the physicality to run the midfield box to box, not yet anyway.

[GreenCastle]

What would change would be the license to broadcast in an Indy Scotland and the retention of funds currently syphoned off by the BBC to pay for rights to sports we have no interest in.

Imagine SKY, Virgin, BT etc being told that their broadcast rights into Scotland would be regulated in relation to the revenue they raised. Investment would improve in Scottish sport not just football.

So why is our current deal one of the worst in Europe ?

What about the Irish and Welsh leagues and all the regalia coverage they get on BT / Sky / BBC etc ?

[J-C]

He could still be at Tynecastle today though?

I know for a fact he wasnt at Tinycastle.

[flash]

I don't think Omeonga was ever coming back, dunno why people thought so really, was nothing to suggest it was ever close.

This is true. Always wanted to go back to Belgium.

[ScottB]

So why is our current deal one of the worst in Europe ?

What about the Irish and Welsh leagues and all the regalia coverage they get on BT / Sky / BBC etc ?

Market forces, essentially.

We are in a unique situation compared to other similarly sized leagues, in that we are in the same broadcast market as one of the giants.

An Indy Scotland with its own broadcast market would be able to treat English Premier League rights like other nations do, much cheaper than the current situation were our broadcasters are the same as England’s, paying the billion quid plus.

Would that mean there’d be more money to pay for Scottish League rights? Unknown, ultimately it would come down to how many people in Scotland were willing to pay to see it. I’m not convinced there’s some big pot of money being siphoned away from our game however.

[JimBHibees]

Can't believe we have missed out on Omeonga, Ojo and Black!!! Ffs

When were we linked with a player called Black?

[hibbyfraelibby]

So why is our current deal one of the worst in Europe ?

What about the Irish and Welsh leagues and all the regalia coverage they get on BT / Sky / BBC etc ?

Because we dont control the media licensing regulations. Quite simple. Norway, Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands etc control their broadcast media. We dont so we are ignored.

[Inconsequential]

When were we linked with a player called Black? Please keep up JimB! A little clue - a Rolling Stones number Paint it Black.:wink:

[hhibs]

Omeonga signs for Cercle Bruge

Apologies if already posted




That is bad news,this was a player that was very good and would only have gotten better,think Hibs have missed out big time on this. IMHO

[J-C]

That is bad news,this was a player that was very good and would only have gotten better,think Hibs have missed out big time on this. IMHO

How have we missed out big time? Was he wanting back? Could we afford him?

[Iggy Pope]

The rumour is that cummings is at Tynecastle with Fraser Wishart, is Wishart his agent?

Isn’t Fraser Wishart the players Union rep? Not that it seems Cummings has been near Tynecastle anyway.

[Hibs90]

Cummings wasn't/is NOT at Tynecastle today. Fact.

[Hibs90]

Omeonga signs for Cercle Bruge

Apologies if already posted

Do I need a username change already :bsod: