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Hibbyradge
10-08-2019, 11:02 AM
I know you're only supposed to use the 'report' button for harassment/rudeness etc, but there really should be an exception made for gross stupidity and sheer brazen bawbaggery. If I read anymore of your posts there's a good chance I will jump out of my bedroom window, smashing glass all around me as I go, putting my own lifeat risk just to relieve the boredom.
That's what it's come to.
Been there. Done that.
Didn't work.
FilipinoHibs
10-08-2019, 11:06 AM
On a scale of 1 to 10, just how solid will your erection be if Doidge turns out to be a poor signing?
Rein it in and get behind the team ffs.
If he does fail I wont be joining in the threads lambasting him. It wont be his fault but our budget and PH's judgement. I will be leaping up and down and opening a San Miguel if he scores the winner tomorrow.
Captain Trips
10-08-2019, 11:09 AM
Henrik Larrson horrific first match in SPL. Ffs how can anyone know for sure if any players will work. I'm not saying any are good or bad as 1 SPL match is not enough not even close to it.
If we have good or ***** players I think it's only fair to let the prove this one way or another.
****ty Keith Wright took until his 3rd SPL game for first league goal what a disaster he was. Let's be realistic on giving people a decent chance to pass or fail.
SquashedFrogg
10-08-2019, 11:10 AM
If he does fail I wont be joining in the threads lambasting him. It wont be his fault but our budget and PH's judgement. I will be leaping up and down and opening a San Miguel if he scores the winner tomorrow.
Can I ask. What is our budget and what do you think it should be, relative to our income?
Genuine question btw.
Barman Stanton
10-08-2019, 11:12 AM
You have to bare in mind for that Doidge was playing for Bolton in the Championship. A complete basket case of a club for the last cpl of seasons. (You will bring up Vela I’m sure, but he was there for a long time).
From what I have seen of him so far he gets into good positions and is good at linking up as per his assist last week. Should have scored yes, but I remember Agathe missing a similar chance at Tynecastle on his debut. Certainly not going to write him off this early.
FilipinoHibs
10-08-2019, 11:16 AM
Henrik Larrson horrific first match in SPL. Ffs how can anyone know for sure if any players will work. I'm not saying any are good or bad as 1 SPL match is not enough not even close to it.
If we have good or ***** players I think it's only fair to let the prove this one way or another.
****ty Keith Wright took until his 3rd SPL game for first league goal what a disaster he was. Let's be realistic on giving people a decent chance to pass or fail.
Both Larson and Keith W had proven track records and a pedigree. Doidge does not.
Stuart93
10-08-2019, 11:17 AM
Both Larson and Keith W had proven track records and a pedigree. Doidge dies not.
At the level he was playing at he does
We have 3 points in the SPL and struggled to beat ST Mirren at home who have been getting whipped by lower league teams. One bit of Allan magic saved us. We missed sitters and looked venerable at the back when the Saints counter attacked. I for one am worried against an ever improving Rangers.
While you're on here what happened to that striker you said was incoming about a week or 2 back?
If he does fail I wont be joining in the threads lambasting him. It wont be his fault but our budget and PH's judgement. I will be leaping up and down and opening a San Miguel if he scores the winner tomorrow.
Of course you won’t. You’ve already done that after the first game of the league season.
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FilipinoHibs
10-08-2019, 11:24 AM
You have to bare in mind for that Doidge was playing for Bolton in the Championship. A complete basket case of a club for the last cpl of seasons. (You will bring up Vela I’m sure, but he was there for a long time).
From what I have seen of him so far he gets into good positions and is good at linking up as per his assist last week. Should have scored yes, but I remember Agathe missing a similar chance at Tynecastle on his debut. Certainly not going to write him off this early.
Vela played in the championship and has lot of games under his belt at that level. Doidge was playing for a contract or at least trying to impress others. He got one goal in 17 games in the third tier.
superfurryhibby
10-08-2019, 11:24 AM
To be fair to the omnipresent poster, people on here are lapping it up. Starve the response and surely they will get bored. It’s interesting to see how people repeatedly take the bait, despite the response, the predictabilty of it’s monotony. I guess that’s the kind of forum we must enjoy, otherwise why bother?
we are hibs
10-08-2019, 11:25 AM
Results away at Ibrox have never determined the quality of a Hibs team because if Rangers play their best we lose 99/100.
Thats the spirit. :rolleyes:
DarlingtonHibee
10-08-2019, 11:26 AM
If he does fail I wont be joining in the threads lambasting him. It wont be his fault but our budget and PH's judgement. I will be. e leaping up and down and opening a San Miguel if he scores the winner tomorrow.
Our budget is the budget ffs.
One win already and your making smart comments
FilipinoHibs
10-08-2019, 11:26 AM
Of course you won’t. You’ve already done that after the first game of the league season.
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In true Hibs style I would never let up. I am just providing the evidence of his short comings and playing a level above him.
MWHIBBIES
10-08-2019, 11:27 AM
Thats the spirit. :rolleyes:
It's not the spirit, it's a fact. They spend more and have better players. I'm not giving a team talk so it doesn't matter what I say.
FilipinoHibs
10-08-2019, 11:28 AM
While you're on here what happened to that striker you said was incoming about a week or 2 back?
I think it will happen next week. Coming from an English club so now their window closed the loan will happen.
Barman Stanton
10-08-2019, 11:29 AM
To be fair to the omnipresent poster, people on here are lapping it up. Starve the response and surely it will get bored. It’s interesting to see how people repeatedly take the bait, despite the response the predictabilty of it’s monotony. I guess that’s the kind of forum we must enjoy, otherwise why bother?
Your spot on. Not sure why I’m even engaging in it. The inability to accept it was a decent assist last weekend shows that discussing anything with him is like banging your head off a wall.
In true Hibs style I would never let up. I am just providing the evidence of his short comings and playing a level above him.
[emoji42]
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FilipinoHibs
10-08-2019, 11:30 AM
At the level he was playing at he does
One goal in 17 games in tier 3 of the English league?
I think it will happen next week. Coming from an English club so now their window closed the loan will happen.
OK, we'll see I guess.
Your spot on. Not sure why I’m even engaging in it. The inability to accept it was a decent assist last weekend shows that discussing anything with him is like banging your head off a wall.
[emoji23] you and me both.
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My_Wife_Camille
10-08-2019, 11:31 AM
Thats the spirit. :rolleyes:
Don't see anything wrong with that post at all tbh.
Not only is it absolutely correct but it's also giving a reasonable defence for why a defeat tomorrow wouldn't be the end of the world.
FilipinoHibs
10-08-2019, 11:31 AM
Thats the spirit. :rolleyes:
Not been the case in the last 5 years😀
FilipinoHibs
10-08-2019, 11:34 AM
[emoji23] you and me both.
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It was simple pass. Allan made the goal. Nothing special about the pass. You delusional if you think otherwise
Malthibby
10-08-2019, 11:37 AM
Admins, I know this is the transfer thread but surely it's getting to the close it stage. It is becoming utterly puerile (see above).
MWHIBBIES
10-08-2019, 11:37 AM
Don't see anything wrong with that post at all tbh.
Not only is it absolutely correct but it's also giving a reasonable defence for why a defeat tomorrow wouldn't be the end of the world.
You've always got my back.
Allant1981
10-08-2019, 11:38 AM
It was simple pass. Allan made the goal. Nothing special about the pass. You delusional if you think otherwise
You are certainly consistent I'll give you that, how long did you give ivan sproule before writing him off, remembering he played part time in Ireland before becoming a cult figure here
Barman Stanton
10-08-2019, 11:42 AM
You are certainly consistent I'll give you that, how long did you give ivan sproule before writing him off, remembering he played part time in Ireland before becoming a cult figure here
Darren Jackson another that took a while to settle in. Can’t wait to see this guys reaction if Doidge hits the winner at Ibrox. He will probably say it was a lucky goal and all about the assist!
My_Wife_Camille
10-08-2019, 11:44 AM
To be fair to the omnipresent poster, people on here are lapping it up. Starve the response and surely it will get bored. It’s interesting to see how people repeatedly take the bait, despite the response the predictabilty of it’s monotony. I guess that’s the kind of forum we must enjoy, otherwise why bother?
Great post.
I fail to see why people choose to sign up to a discussion forum and then complain about people who have a different opinion to them.
If you don't like the concept of people having different opinions on football and if you think that this forum is that bad then please do everyone a favour and log off and leave the rest of us to enjoy it in peace.
It was simple pass. Allan made the goal. Nothing special about the pass. You delusional if you think otherwise
FFS you are now trolling/ fishing and your constant ‘it was a simple pass’ is now boring. READ MY POSTS! and others too!
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Barman Stanton
10-08-2019, 11:53 AM
Great post.
I fail to see why people choose to sign up to a discussion forum and then complain about people who have a different opinion to them.
If you don't like the concept of people having different opinions on football and if you think that this forum is that bad then please do everyone a favour and log off and leave the rest of us to enjoy it in peace.
Some are just fed up with the constant negativity on all things Hibs here. It helps no one. At least give these guys a bit of time to settle in before ripping them to shreds.
And this is after we finished top of our LC Group and won the opening League game. I personally just don’t get where you guys get all this negativity from. And what do you think it will achieve other than splitting the support?
Allant1981
10-08-2019, 11:54 AM
Great post.
I fail to see why people choose to sign up to a discussion forum and then complain about people who have a different opinion to them.
If you don't like the concept of people having different opinions on football and if you think that this forum is that bad then please do everyone a favour and log off and leave the rest of us to enjoy it in peace.
There is having discussions and just blatantly looking for a reaction from people, debate is a great thing and it's why I enjoyed coming to this forum but there are certain posters who seem to enjoy getting a reaction from people
Clarence
10-08-2019, 12:05 PM
Some are just fed up with the constant negativity on all things Hibs here. It helps no one. At least give these guys a bit of time to settle in before ripping them to shreds.
And this is after we finished top of our LC Group and won the opening League game. I personally just don’t get where you guys get all this negativity from. And what do you think it will achieve other than splitting the support?
Totally agree.
superfurryhibby
10-08-2019, 12:06 PM
There is having discussions and just blatantly looking for a reaction from people, debate is a great thing and it's why I enjoyed coming to this forum but there are certain posters who seem to enjoy getting a reaction from people
Of course the stirrers love it, but people consistently responding becomes almost as tiresome.
As you say, debate is great and like you, it’s what I like most about here. It’s up to posters to regulate their responses. I’ve tried a few times to steer this thread away from being about one person’s views, but it’s not happening. That makes me wonder what people ( not you or just you btw) get from it.
My own approach is to state my view and if people want to discuss, I might qualify it, learn something I never considered or give up. I’ve even been known to use the ignore button and it helps too.
The_Horde
10-08-2019, 12:07 PM
There is having discussions and just blatantly looking for a reaction from people, debate is a great thing and it's why I enjoyed coming to this forum but there are certain posters who seem to enjoy getting a reaction from people
What exactly does the term 'enjoy getting a reaction from people' actually mean?
Everybody on here (and even in the real world) in one way or another is posting to get a reaction from someone. That's the way communication works.
My_Wife_Camille
10-08-2019, 12:09 PM
Some are just fed up with the constant negativity on all things Hibs here. It helps no one. At least give these guys a bit of time to settle in before ripping them to shreds.
And this is after we finished top of our LC Group and won the opening League game. I personally just don’t get where you guys get all this negativity from. And what do you think it will achieve other than splitting the support?
Sorry but if you don't like someone's negative opinion then tough.
You don't have to get it or agree with it but the very least you should be able to do is respect it because it is every bit as valid as yours and only some misplaced sense of entitlement can say otherwise.
There is having discussions and just blatantly looking for a reaction from people, debate is a great thing and it's why I enjoyed coming to this forum but there are certain posters who seem to enjoy getting a reaction from people
Having a different opinion is not trolling
Allant1981
10-08-2019, 12:10 PM
Of course the stirrers love it, but people consistently responding becomes almost as tiresome.
As you say, debate is great and like you, it’s what I like most about here. It’s up to posters to regulate their responses. I’ve tried a few times to steer this thread away from being about one person’s views, but it’s not happening. That makes me wonder what people ( not you or just you btw) get from it.
My own approach is to state my view and if people want to discuss, I might qualify it, learn something I never considered or give up. I’ve even been known to use the ignore button and it helps too.
Yip I'm one of the guilty ones as I keep adding to it(like this post!!) I'll be staying away from this particular thread now and I have a few on ignore!!
Barman Stanton
10-08-2019, 12:10 PM
Sorry but if you don't like someone's negative opinion then tough.
You don't have to get it or agree with it but the very least you should be able to do is respect it because it is every bit as valid as yours and only some misplaced sense of entitlement can say otherwise.
Having a different opinion is not trolling
Sorry but I don’t think writing someone off after a couple of games is valid at all. It’s ludicrous.
we are hibs
10-08-2019, 12:12 PM
It's not the spirit, it's a fact. They spend more and have better players. I'm not giving a team talk so it doesn't matter what I say.
Weve played them 9 times at ibrox since 2014. We have won 4, lost 4 and drawn 1. How does that fit into your 99 times out of 100 theory?
Barman Stanton
10-08-2019, 12:12 PM
Of course the stirrers love it, but people consistently responding becomes almost as tiresome.
As you say, debate is great and like you, it’s what I like most about here. It’s up to posters to regulate their responses. I’ve tried a few times to steer this thread away from being about one person’s views, but it’s not happening. That makes me wonder what people ( not you or just you btw) get from it.
My own approach is to state my view and if people want to discuss, I might qualify it, learn something I never considered or give up. I’ve even been known to use the ignore button and it helps too.
Wow been on this site for what’s feels like ever and never knew there was an ignore button. Cheers.
My_Wife_Camille
10-08-2019, 12:17 PM
Sorry but I don’t think writing someone off after a couple of games is valid at all. It’s ludicrous.
I agree with you. FilipinoHibs disagrees. Such is the nature of a forum.
You can either embrace the diversity of opinions or you can get annoyed and upset by them but if it's going to be the latter you're probably right in saying it's time to log off
The Spaceman
10-08-2019, 12:18 PM
FilipinoHibs is a loser.
One game into the season. 3 points accrued. Writing our signings off. Take your stinking attitude and go and support Manchester City or Liverpool.
jeffers
10-08-2019, 12:18 PM
Seems to me it's acceptable to form an opinion on a player after only a few games so long as it's a positive one. If your opinion is negative then it's far too early to be doing so. FilpinoHibs has stated he's not been impressed with Doidge, the comment he made about his granny making that pass didn't do him any favours, but he's given his reasons for his opinion and his continued posting IMO is because he has been pulled up on it and he's defending his position.
Fwiw I've not been impressed with Doidge either, that's my initial impression. If the reported figure is correct (in Hibs terms) we paid decent money for him and I was hoping for more even at this stage. I can't speak for FilipinoHibs, but I'm certainly not writing him off and I want my initial impression to be completely wrong.
My_Wife_Camille
10-08-2019, 12:20 PM
Seems to me it's acceptable to form an opinion on a player after only a few games so long as it's a positive one. If your opinion is negative then it's far too early to be doing so. FilpinoHibs has stated he's not been impressed with Doidge, the comment he made about his granny making that pass didn't do him any favours, but he's given his reasons for his opinion and his continued posting IMO is because he has been pulled him up on it and he's defending his position.
Fwiw I've not been impressed with Doidge either, that's my initial impression. If the reported figure is correct (in Hibs terms) we paid decent money for him and I was hoping for more even at this stage. I can't speak for FilipinoHibs, but I'm certainly not writing him off and I want my initial impression to be completely wrong.
:top marks
Spot on in every way
Barman Stanton
10-08-2019, 12:21 PM
I agree with you. FilipinoHibs disagrees. Such is the nature of a forum.
You can either embrace the diversity of opinions or you can get annoyed and upset by them but if it's going to be the latter you're probably right in saying it's time to log off
Nah Iv just put him on ignore. All good.
Hermit Crab
10-08-2019, 12:22 PM
FilipinoHibs is a loser.
One game into the season. 3 points accrued. Writing our signings off. Take your stinking attitude and go and support Manchester City or Liverpool.
So he's a loser because his opinion is different to yours? Ridiculous. You might not agree but that doesn't make him a loser.
Barman Stanton
10-08-2019, 12:25 PM
Seems to me it's acceptable to form an opinion on a player after only a few games so long as it's a positive one. If your opinion is negative then it's far too early to be doing so. FilpinoHibs has stated he's not been impressed with Doidge, the comment he made about his granny making that pass didn't do him any favours, but he's given his reasons for his opinion and his continued posting IMO is because he has been pulled him up on it and he's defending his position.
Fwiw I've not been impressed with Doidge either, that's my initial impression. If the reported figure is correct (in Hibs terms) we paid decent money for him and I was hoping for more even at this stage. I can't speak for FilipinoHibs, but I'm certainly not writing him off and I want my initial impression to be completely wrong.
If he had worded his opinion as balanced as this then no one would have bothered I’m sure. His little digs about his assist show that he has written him off and can’t find it in himself to praise him at all. It was a decent first time pass on a tight area of the pitch.
I’m also not really seeing anyone saying the new players are great either. Most are sensible enough to know it normally takes a bit of time for players to settle into a new club.
Vault Boy
10-08-2019, 12:27 PM
This thread would be better served discussing the incoming Glenn Middleton and other transfer activity related to Hibs, rather than using it to debate the value of contrarian points and which adults are 'losers.'
I'm really pleased we're signing Glenn, he's a proper talent and I think he'll end up being one of our best players.
Barman Stanton
10-08-2019, 12:31 PM
This thread would be better served discussing the incoming Glenn Middleton and other transfer activity related to Hibs, rather than using it to debate the value of contrarian points and which adults are 'losers.'
I'm really pleased we're signing Glenn, he's a proper talent and I think he'll end up being one of best players.
Agree, looks like a good signing. Don’t really care where comes from if he does the business for us.
Hibbyradge
10-08-2019, 12:36 PM
I come online and see that there's loads of posts on the transfer thread so I open it in the full expectation that there will be some hilarious puns to enjoy.
But no. Page after page of folk arguing about negative posts and simple passes.
That's 3 and a half hours of my life that I won't get back. :bitchy:
Barman Stanton
10-08-2019, 12:38 PM
I come online and see that there's loads of posts on the transfer thread so I open it in the full expectation that there will be some hilarious puns to enjoy.
But no. Page after page of folk arguing about negative posts and simple passes.
That's 3 and a half hours of my life that I won't get back. :bitchy:
3 and half hours? You must have been in the bottom reading group at school :)
Hibbyradge
10-08-2019, 12:38 PM
3 and half hours? You must have been in the bottom reading group at school :)
School?
MWHIBBIES
10-08-2019, 12:48 PM
Weve played them 9 times at ibrox since 2014. We have won 4, lost 4 and drawn 1. How does that fit into your 99 times out of 100 theory?
Quiet easily really, we played well, they didn't. They are also a much better side now than when we won those 4 games.
Keith_M
10-08-2019, 12:51 PM
Definitely not.
Middleton is your man, loan announced on Monday apparently. I believe Gerrard has said ‘it will happen’.
:greengrin
Oops!
Since90+2
10-08-2019, 12:54 PM
Quiet easily really, we played well, they didn't. They are also a much better side now than when we won those 4 games.
What a revelation teams that play well tend to win and teams that don't play well don't.
Captain Trips
10-08-2019, 01:06 PM
Both Larson and Keith W had proven track records and a pedigree. Doidge does not.
Irrelevant. Record prior here is not him playing here. How long is the list of decent pedigree failures? Can we discuss Sproules pedigree or natty Jack's or Martin Boyles or 100s of players with a cv that might not inspire but did well.
I cannot say Doidge will do well as I have no crystal ball.
If you cannot see the part Doidge played in the goal then I’m not sure how you view football!
Weird isn't it. Everyone sees football differently. There will be Hibs fans out there who won't even know he made the pass but still be more optimistic about the player given the spaces Doidge found and his positioning. To see the pass and try to downplay the contribution on the evidence of which League James Collins from donkeys ago compared to some stats on Doidge is a strange contortion, football doesn't work like that. It's the kind of stance that leads posters to knuckle down on their opinion and carry on slating a player no matter the contribution.
MWHIBBIES
10-08-2019, 01:25 PM
What a revelation teams that play well tend to win and teams that don't play well don't.
Exactly. Rangers have been playing well consistently and are naturally favourites to win. For that reason it isn't some big indicator of anything if we lose.
Weird isn't it. Everyone sees football differently. There will be Hibs fans out there who won't even know he made the pass but still be more optimistic about the player given the spaces Doidge found and his positioning. To see the pass and try to downplay the contribution on the evidence of which League James Collins from donkeys ago compared to some stats on Doidge is a strange contortion, football doesn't work like that. It's the kind of stance that leads posters to knuckle down on their opinion and carry on slating a player no matter the contribution.
It is however it is plain and clear to see the part Doidge did play in the build up. Simple yet effective!
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hibsbollah
10-08-2019, 01:44 PM
It is however it is plain and clear to see the part Doidge did play in the build up. Simple yet effective!
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I wonder if Doidge had rabona-ed it instead of making a 'simple' pass it would be deserving of credit. Football is a simple game, someone said once, think it was Clough. Nothing wrong with doing the simple things.
I wonder if Doidge had rabona-ed it instead of making a 'simple' pass it would be deserving of credit. Football is a simple game, someone said once, think it was Clough. Nothing wrong with the doing the simple things.
Maybe would have!
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I wonder if Doidge had rabona-ed it instead of making a 'simple' pass it would be deserving of credit. Football is a simple game, someone said once, think it was Clough. Nothing wrong with doing the simple things.
:agree:
Whether a pass is simple, fancy, intricate, delicate, or whatever, what matters is, was it the right pass. And in this case, Doidge definitely played the right pass.
Franck Stanton
10-08-2019, 03:20 PM
:agree:
Whether a pass is simple, fancy, intricate, delicate, or whatever, what matters is, was it the right pass. And in this case, Doidge definitely played the right pass.
Correct
ancient hibee
10-08-2019, 03:20 PM
Doidge did well to be in the right place and make the right pass.But what for me makes a mockery of the whole assists idea is that a really important part of the goal was Hanlon surging forward and also making the right pass in a decent manner .So often when Allan was last here it would be his pass that enabled a goal chance while someone else got the assist.
Barney McGrew
10-08-2019, 03:37 PM
All,
This thread is intended for updates and discussion on transfers, so can we keep it on track....if you want to discuss anything else, do it on another thread.
We don’t want to have to close this one but it’s getting to the point this one is unreadable in regards to the subject it was started as.
Please take this as the friendly/final warning on it. Thanks.
hibbyfraelibby
10-08-2019, 03:40 PM
I’d be surprised considering we were trying to get McNulty and Omeonga back but were just outbid.
No way has he blown the whole budget already. Maybe it’s a subtle way of saying to the board to give him a bit more
You dont blow your entire budget in the Summer window you keep some back for the Winter one to cover un-planned departures/injuries/pishy-ness
hibbyfraelibby
10-08-2019, 03:44 PM
Including Betfred and preseason. I hope I am wrong and suddenly goes up a level. But the historical stats and performances so far do not look promising.
How many actual competetive games have we lost this season?
Not a long list is it, in fact its not a list at all.
Wait until the break before you order you Lady Tena Maxi-pack
Franck Stanton
10-08-2019, 04:18 PM
All,
This thread is intended for updates and discussion on transfers, so can we keep it on track....if you want to discuss anything else, do it on another thread.
We don’t want to have to close this one but it’s getting to the point this one is unreadable in regards to the subject it was started as.
Please take this as the friendly/final warning on it. Thanks.
Well said.
Joe6-2
10-08-2019, 04:23 PM
All,
This thread is intended for updates and discussion on transfers, so can we keep it on track....if you want to discuss anything else, do it on another thread.
We don’t want to have to close this one but it’s getting to the point this one is unreadable in regards to the subject it was started as.
Please take this as the friendly/final warning on it. Thanks.
Let’s hope attentioned is payed to this
madsen5
10-08-2019, 05:06 PM
Well said.
Well done it's getting ridiculous.
eastcoasthibby
11-08-2019, 08:28 AM
In true Hibs style I would never let up. I am just providing the evidence of his short comings and playing a level above him.
The Scottish game is different from down south some players adjust to it and are better players in it as it suits their skills set ....passing judgement at this stage of the season is mental come back in 3 months and have a conversation based on the evidence from playing up here !!!!
theonlywayisup
11-08-2019, 09:17 AM
To be honest, I would rather Admins just close this thread and start individual threads whenever a new player is mentioned as a possible rumour.
It's now pointless even opening this thread to see what the latest rumour is.
Heisenberg
11-08-2019, 09:24 AM
To be honest, I would rather Admins just close this thread and start individual threads whenever a new player is mentioned as a possible rumour.
It's now pointless even opening this thread to see what the latest rumour is.
Good idea. The individual thread can then continue if they sign as discussion goes on about their performances.
Jones28
11-08-2019, 09:28 AM
Doidge was a one in two goal scorer in the 4th tier of English football. One in 17 in the third tier of English football. I think the SPL straddles the bottom of the championship/top of league one. It is no surprise he is struggling and will probably find the SPL a level to far for him.
One game. One.
Hibernian Verse
11-08-2019, 09:31 AM
One game. One.Don't rise to it.
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badabing67
11-08-2019, 10:35 AM
We've lost Milligan, Marv and Omeonga. There were times last season when we were bullied and overrun in midfield. I'm happy with Vela and Allan coming in but we need more. I don't understand how anyone could think we don't.
Slivka needs to put himself about more he is a big lad and needs to get stuck in more and start to try and control games. I think he is capable of it but hasn't really shown it yet. Still got hope for him it wouldn't surprise me if he nicks a goal today if he gets a game
Unseen work
11-08-2019, 10:39 AM
Without getting into a huge discussion about it.
It was a really good pass Fromm Doidge imo, it was fired into when he had a centre half right up him and he done a first time pass with his weak foot into Allan who was at an angle. The weight of it was perfect as Scotty barely had to break his stride.
Showed good vision and quality to execute the pass.
Think too many are too used to watching the prem or playing Fifa thinking it’s an easy pass.
Not the best pass you'll ever see, but it’s certainly not as easy as some make out.
FilipinoHibs
11-08-2019, 10:42 AM
Without getting into a huge discussion about it.
It was a really good pass Fromm Doidge imo, it was fired into when he had a centre half right up him and he done a first time pass with his weak foot into Allan who was at an angle. The weight of it was perfect as Scotty barely had to break his stride.
Showed good vision and quality to execute the pass.
Think too many are too used to watching the prem or playing Fifa thinking it’s an easy pass.
Not the best pass you'll ever see, but it’s certainly not as easy as some make out.
It was a first time clip. Thing you develop in short sided game practice. Not a simple side ways static pass but not earth sharing either.
BILLYHIBS
11-08-2019, 10:45 AM
Any HIBS transfer news?
badabing67
11-08-2019, 10:48 AM
Anyone else think we are playing our cards close to our chest and will sign a few players on deadline day? Or just wishful thinking?
I think there is something in that, they must still have some of the cash they'd would have used for Mcnulty & Omeonga deals. So If an opportunity presents itself we could still be in a position to do some deals. But I think we will get a few more loans in but obviously I could be wrong, we will see. I hope we do. I think the squad looks a bit light. If we get the injuries we had in the first half of last season we could be in trouble with the options we've got. As it stands we would have to turn to the development side if we get those level of injuries again
SHODAN
11-08-2019, 10:59 AM
To be honest, I would rather Admins just close this thread and start individual threads whenever a new player is mentioned as a possible rumour.
It's now pointless even opening this thread to see what the latest rumour is.
Then the MB would be flooded with separate transfer rumour threads. Much better to keep it in one as long as people can behave.
500miles
11-08-2019, 10:59 AM
I think there is something in that, they must still have some of the cash they'd would have used for Mcnulty & Omeonga deals. So If an opportunity presents itself we could still be in a position to do some deals. But I think we will get a few more loans in but obviously I could be wrong, we will see. I hope we do. I think the squad looks a bit light. If we get the injuries we had in the first half of last season we could be in trouble with the options we've got. As it stands we would have to turn to the development side if we get those level of injuries again
To be fair, with Murray, Campbell, Shaw and Stirling on the fringes, I wouldn't really fear having to draw a bit on them.
FilipinoHibs
11-08-2019, 10:59 AM
I think there is something in that, they must still have some of the cash they'd would have used for Mcnulty & Omeonga deals. So If an opportunity presents itself we could still be in a position to do some deals. But I think we will get a few more loans in but obviously I could be wrong, we will see. I hope we do. I think the squad looks a bit light. If we get the injuries we had in the first half of last season we could be in trouble with the options we've got. As it stands we would have to turn to the development side if we get those level of injuries again
Yes there is still cash there. Now English window closed there must be loan and potential transfers from down south.
The Modfather
11-08-2019, 11:12 AM
To be fair, with Murray, Campbell, Shaw and Stirling on the fringes, I wouldn't really fear having to draw a bit on them.
Based on the only time I’ve seen him, and there was mitigation in that he played in a 2 with Mallan, and I know you’re not saying he will be a starter, but based on the Arbroath (or was it Alloa?) game at home I think Campbell is quite a way off the first team IMO.
Unseen work
11-08-2019, 11:14 AM
Campbell just seems very similar to Scott Martin.
Young boy though who would have learned a lot pre season. Should be allowed time to develop now and go out on loan.
Vault Boy
11-08-2019, 12:21 PM
Then the MB would be flooded with separate transfer roumour threads. Much better to keep it in one as long as people can behave.
This is the overwhelming preference.
FWIW speaking about the relative strengths/weaknesses of signings is obviously fine, but making it personal and veering away from conversations about transfers and more towards individual posters is where we have to draw a line.
I wonder if Middleton will be in the Rangers dugout today.
Any HIBS transfer news?
No
badabing67
11-08-2019, 07:15 PM
Any HIBS transfer news?
We need to get Efe back
Hibeesmad
11-08-2019, 07:26 PM
Doidge, James and Middleton all have the same agent as Heckingbottom. Just take a further look through the list and you may find potential targets.
Heisenberg
11-08-2019, 07:29 PM
Doidge, James and Middleton all have the same agent as Heckingbottom. Just take a further look through the list and you may find potential targets.
Quite the extensive list by the looks of it. I’d take any midfielder that’ll give us more than Mallan or Vela currently are.
TheReg!
11-08-2019, 07:34 PM
U can all say what u want, Hecky will be gone by Xmas.
BILLYHIBS
11-08-2019, 07:35 PM
Hope our brilliant recruitment team kept Efes phone number
chippy
11-08-2019, 07:47 PM
U can all say what u want, Hecky will be gone by Xmas.
Better gone by the weekend 6-1 is a sacking offence
bingo70
11-08-2019, 07:50 PM
Better gone by the weekend 6-1 is a sacking offence
Did Steve Clarke’s Killie not lose by a similar margin to Celtic last season?
As long as this is a poor result in isolation then it’s not a big deal imo. I’ve not got masses of faith that’ll be the case though.
RossScott1991
11-08-2019, 08:01 PM
Cummings and Mcgeough both not getting games, would love for us to sign them. However Cummings has too much personality for PH
essexhibee
11-08-2019, 08:02 PM
Cummings and Mcgeough both not getting games, would love for us to sign them. However Cummings has too much personality for PH
Mcgeough started for Sunderland yesterday
Heisenberg
11-08-2019, 09:53 PM
Striker that’ll actually run in behind
Midfielder that can actually move about the pitch and defend.
Top priorities for me, after Middleton comes in.
SHODAN
11-08-2019, 10:08 PM
Needed:
1. A midfielder who can defend.
2. A midfielder who can DEFEND.
3. A striker who provides something different when the other three aren't cutting it.
Hibeesmad
11-08-2019, 10:11 PM
Needed:
1. A midfielder who can defend.
2. A midfielder who can DEFEND.
3. A striker who provides something different when the other three aren't cutting it.
I think we should have stuck with Milligan for another season. Would be nice to get in a really fast striker who can get on the end of Allan’s through balls.
Nicho87
11-08-2019, 10:12 PM
Dempster should be personally calling effe and Cummings to come and save us. Just tell hecky there both from Yeovil town, he’ll be cool with that.
The 90+2
11-08-2019, 10:14 PM
U can all say what u want, .
But it won’t change my mind, the way I feel about you....
Greencore
11-08-2019, 10:14 PM
Needed:
1. A midfielder who can defend.
2. A midfielder who can DEFEND.
3. A striker who provides something different when the other three aren't cutting it.
You're in for a massive disappointment.
Never gonna happen.
Greencore
11-08-2019, 10:15 PM
But it won’t change my mind, the way I feel about you....
😂
BILLYHIBS
11-08-2019, 10:15 PM
Dempster should be personally calling effe and Cummings to come and save us. Just tell hecky there both from Yeovil town, he’ll be cool with that.
😂
flash
11-08-2019, 10:37 PM
Dempster should be personally calling effe and Cummings to come and save us. Just tell hecky there both from Yeovil town, he’ll be cool with that.
A lot of snide remarks towards the manager on the board tonight.
hibbie02
11-08-2019, 10:38 PM
A lot of snide remarks towards the manager on the board tonight.
I wonder why?
H18 SFR
11-08-2019, 10:39 PM
Then the MB would be flooded with separate transfer rumour threads. Much better to keep it in one as long as people can behave.
Why can't this logic be applied on matchday threads. The contradictions here just now are baffling.
Seriously folks, where is this going? It's bordering on farcical.
hibbie02
11-08-2019, 10:43 PM
Doidge, James and Middleton all have the same agent as Heckingbottom. Just take a further look through the list and you may find potential targets.
Yup, that seems to be the new recruitment policy. So much for our much vaunted team that used to scour Europe for players. Now they all have one agent and that is as far as it goes. Unfortunately that agent only represents lower league pish from England.
cabbageandribs1875
11-08-2019, 10:49 PM
Hope our brilliant recruitment team kept Efes phone number
does he have the same agent as heckingbottom as well
Torto7
11-08-2019, 11:17 PM
Yup, that seems to be the new recruitment policy. So much for our much vaunted team that used to scour Europe for players. Now they all have one agent and that is as far as it goes. Unfortunately that agent only represents lower league pish from England.
Who's the agent?
Vault Boy
11-08-2019, 11:40 PM
Why can't this logic be applied on matchday threads. The contradictions here just now are baffling.
Seriously folks, where is this going? It's bordering on farcical.
It's really not that hard to grasp, I think you're just doing your best not to get it.
Match update threads exist to provide a running commentary on the game. From team news, to kick off, to full time. It's for fans who want to see updates on the game as it's taking place.
Further discussion about specific match events like tactical decisions, performances, refereeing decisions, fans etc can exist in their own post match threads. This is to prevent the specifically made match update threads from becoming bloated and off topic. 'Hecky out,' or 'Ron dig the wallet oot' are not match updates.
The 'Summer 2019 Transfer' thread covers transfers made during the summer of 2019, funnily enough. Discussing various potential transfers, so any player we are linked to falls under that category. It's so simple.
Speaking of - this thread is for discussing transfer rumours and news, so for the very last time, please keep this on topic.
Hibeesmad
11-08-2019, 11:46 PM
Who's the agent?
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/base-soccer-agency-ltd/beraterfirma/berater/674
The 90+2
12-08-2019, 12:00 AM
does he have the same agent as heckingbottom as well
No. His agent is Lennons pal also Rockys agent.
The 90+2
12-08-2019, 12:01 AM
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/base-soccer-agency-ltd/beraterfirma/berater/674
Same agency that has that manager who turned us down on the books too (forgot his name now)
bingo70
12-08-2019, 12:08 AM
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/base-soccer-agency-ltd/beraterfirma/berater/674
That link doesn’t work for me but when I look up that agency the only new signings that share the same agent are Doidge and James?
Hibeesmad
12-08-2019, 12:09 AM
That link doesn’t work for me but when I look up that agency the only new signings that share the same agent are Doidge and James?
Glenn Middleton is with them too
bingo70
12-08-2019, 12:14 AM
Glenn Middleton is with them too
True.
Still not the same as all the new signings having the one agent though like the original poster said.
MagicSwirlingShip
12-08-2019, 01:11 AM
I'd suggest this agent is cozy with our recruitment team rather than Heck, as Omeonga, Hyndman etc are all represented aswell
badabing67
12-08-2019, 10:21 AM
Dempster should be personally calling effe and Cummings to come and save us. Just tell hecky there both from Yeovil town, he’ll be cool with that.
I'd even take Bigi back right now, thought he looked descent against Aberdeen a top six side and never got a sniff after that. Don't know why. I think he would improve that midfield.
badabing67
12-08-2019, 10:26 AM
Same agency that has that manager who turned us down on the books too (forgot his name now)
Michael Appleton
Stuart93
12-08-2019, 12:15 PM
All these players and our manager coming from the same agency doesn’t sit right at all.
Stinks of lazy recruitment on all fronts
SMAXXA
12-08-2019, 12:18 PM
Random I know but is it just me or do we seem to not sign many black players or indeed foreign players compared to other teams?
calumhibee1
12-08-2019, 12:20 PM
Random I know but is it just me or do we seem to not sign many black players or indeed foreign players compared to other teams?
You’re at it.
All these players and our manager coming from the same agency doesn’t sit right at all.
Stinks of lazy recruitment on all fronts
It's not lazy recruitment if it's the managers choice, he has final say on all players, unfortunately it seems to be a trend at the moment. Stubbs allowed our recruitment team do their jobs and he picked some good ones there, McGinn, McGeouch, Gray, Fyvie, Fontaine, McGregor, Gunnarsson, Kamberi.
James Stephen
12-08-2019, 12:22 PM
Random I know but is it just me or do we seem to not sign many black players or indeed foreign players compared to other teams?
For me, it's clear Hecky is an English nationalist and racist. That's why he only signs English players.
Not hibs class.
WhileTheChief..
12-08-2019, 12:23 PM
It’s just you, we’ve signed plenty in recent years. Like a lot of our signings though they sit on the bench then go home.
Rherras and Nelhom spring to mind.
H18 SFR
12-08-2019, 12:24 PM
It's not lazy recruitment if it's the managers choice, he has final say on all players, unfortunately it seems to be a trend at the moment. Stubbs allowed our recruitment team do their jobs and he picked some good ones there, McGinn, McGeouch, Gray, Fyvie, Fontaine, McGregor, Gunnarsson, Kamberi.
Stubbs didn't have any input on Flo.
Coco Bryce
12-08-2019, 12:25 PM
For me, it's clear Hecky is an English nationalist and racist. That's why he only signs English players.
Not hibs class.
Or any that can play football for that matter.
easty
12-08-2019, 12:25 PM
Random I know but is it just me or do we seem to not sign many black players or indeed foreign players compared to other teams?
What exactly are you looking to achieve with this? There’s obv nothing there.
Paul HecKKKingbottoms green and WHITE army?
You’re at it.
I don't think he's at it but I know what he means, all players this window are British nationals, looking at other teams there seems to be a wider range of foreign players on their books.
Stubbs didn't have any input on Flo.
I know but pointing out that the recruitment team scouted Flo and possibly why he fell out with Lennon as he wasn't his choice.
calumhibee1
12-08-2019, 12:34 PM
I don't think he's at it but I know what he means, all players this window are British nationals, looking at other teams there seems to be a wider range of foreign players on their books.
Last season we had Efe, Marv, Nelom and Agyepong for our “black players”. We also had Mavrias, Rocky, Bogdan, Milligan, Hyndman, Flo, Maclaren and no doubt some others who were foreign players.
To say we don’t sign many as if there’s something sinister going on is quite clearly looking for a reaction when it’s clearly not the case.
Brightside
12-08-2019, 12:36 PM
All these players and our manager coming from the same agency doesn’t sit right at all.
Stinks of lazy recruitment on all fronts
:rolleyes: All the other agents send in the same clips too.
jacomo
12-08-2019, 12:36 PM
All these players and our manager coming from the same agency doesn’t sit right at all.
Stinks of lazy recruitment on all fronts
:agree:
SMAXXA
12-08-2019, 12:38 PM
I don't think he's at it but I know what he means, all players this window are British nationals, looking at other teams there seems to be a wider range of foreign players on their books.
Exactly where I was coming from, absolutely no malice in it was just an observation right or wrong
SMAXXA
12-08-2019, 12:39 PM
Last season we had Efe, Marv, Nelom and Agyepong for our “black players”. We also had Mavrias, Rocky, Bogdan, Milligan, Hyndman, Flo, Maclaren and no doubt some others who were foreign players.
To say we don’t sign many as if there’s something sinister going on is quite clearly looking for a reaction when it’s clearly not the case.
Absolutely nothing sinister at all don’t get your knickers in a twist
Random I know but is it just me or do we seem to not sign many black players or indeed foreign players compared to other teams?
Is this a badly worded way of suggesting our scouting department focusses too much on the british leagues?
In any case, it is hard to comment on as no one knows whether it is them or the manager who identifies players. Most likely it is a bit of both.
What i do know is our recruitment since stubbs last season has been very poor. I can count on one hand the number of players who have come in and matched the sort of quality we had when stubbs left. And each of those players seems on the face of it to be obtained through managers contacts rather than the recruitment team.
Also, it is criminal that we have not even attempted to sign a replacement for mcginns energy and drive in the middle of the park after 3 transfer windows (assuming none come in before end of aug as hecky has said).
BlackSheep
12-08-2019, 12:43 PM
Better gone by the weekend 6-1 is a sacking offence
What does 7-0 get you....?
Tommy Wright seems to still be in a job.
Wonder if Middleton has had a change of mind after yesterday's fiasco, no mention of him joining yet.
jacomo
12-08-2019, 12:54 PM
Wonder if Middleton has had a change of mind after yesterday's fiasco, no mention of him joining yet.
If we’d won, Sevco would have tried to cancel the loan out of spite.
percy veer
12-08-2019, 01:06 PM
Wonder if Middleton has had a change of mind after yesterday's fiasco, no mention of him joining yet.
Would anyone be surprised if he went to hearts?
Torto7
12-08-2019, 01:12 PM
Would anyone be surprised if he went to hearts?
Yeah extremely. He won't so it doesn't matter anyway.
CMurdoch
12-08-2019, 01:20 PM
Wonder if Middleton has had a change of mind after yesterday's fiasco, no mention of him joining yet.
The opposite. He now knows he will get lots of game time
500miles
12-08-2019, 01:21 PM
If we’d won, Sevco would have tried to cancel the loan out of spite.
They're now sending Greg Docherty as well! Yesterday was merely a clever ruse!
Greencore
12-08-2019, 01:22 PM
Random I know but is it just me or do we seem to not sign many black players or indeed foreign players compared to other teams?
I'm very surprised and shocked we are not signing enough Irish players.
#2 Double Tap
12-08-2019, 01:24 PM
I'm very surprised and shocked we are not signing enough Irish players.
I am shocked and surprised we are not signing enough football players!
Greencore
12-08-2019, 01:26 PM
I am shocked and surprised we are not signing enough football players!
I see what you did there 😎.
scoopyboy
12-08-2019, 01:27 PM
We are however continuing our fine tradition of a red head.
Heisenberg
12-08-2019, 01:32 PM
We are however continuing our fine tradition of a red head.
Simon Murray is coming back to save us?! 🤞🏻
bingo70
12-08-2019, 01:35 PM
We are however continuing our fine tradition of a red head.
Is Middleton a ginger or is there someone else coming in?
SHODAN
12-08-2019, 01:37 PM
We are however continuing our fine tradition of a red head.
Who
JimBHibees
12-08-2019, 01:42 PM
For me, it's clear Hecky is an English nationalist and racist. That's why he only signs English players.
Not hibs class.
Are the players not mostly Welsh? :greengrin
JimBHibees
12-08-2019, 01:42 PM
We are however continuing our fine tradition of a red head.
A signing or trial?
JimBHibees
12-08-2019, 01:44 PM
The opposite. He now knows he will get lots of game time
Yep absolutely certainty to play every week. :greengrin
bingo70
12-08-2019, 01:45 PM
A signing or trial?
Imo all this thread has been missing all summer is a god Fraser Fyvie debate.
I’d be delighted if we bring him back, just what we need now.
BlackSheep
12-08-2019, 01:45 PM
One thing is for sure... Announcing a new player would certainly brighten up fans' at least a small amount.
bingo70
12-08-2019, 01:47 PM
One thing is for sure... Announcing a new player would certainly brighten up fans' at least a small amount.
Oh I don’t know.
Imagine we signed someone else from a Yeovil or Forest Green. This place would go mental.
Iggy Pope
12-08-2019, 01:48 PM
We are however continuing our fine tradition of a red head.
Michael Stewart, new PR man.
JimBHibees
12-08-2019, 01:48 PM
Imo all this thread has been missing all summer is a god Fraser Fyvie debate.
I’d be delighted if we bring him back, just what we need now.
Freudian slip :greengrin
Edinburgh Green
12-08-2019, 01:51 PM
Jack Colback?
JimBHibees
12-08-2019, 01:55 PM
Jack Colback?
Funny that is exactly who I thought of.
Callum_62
12-08-2019, 02:04 PM
Didn't make Newcastle 25 first team squad
Highly doubt it but along the lines of what we need
Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk
matty_f
12-08-2019, 02:09 PM
All these players and our manager coming from the same agency doesn’t sit right at all.
Stinks of lazy recruitment on all fronts
They don’t.
All these players and our manager coming from the same agency doesn’t sit right at all.
Stinks of lazy recruitment on all fronts
Which agency is it?
Torto7
12-08-2019, 02:10 PM
Surely he'd be outwith our budget? Can championship teams down south still sign players on loan?
Heisenberg
12-08-2019, 02:12 PM
Surely he'd be outwith our budget? Can championship teams down south still sign players on loan?
League One and League Two clubs can. Championship window is closed.
Torto7
12-08-2019, 02:15 PM
League One and League Two clubs can. Championship window is closed.
Thanks.
Maybe we'd be in with a shout then if he's surplus at Newcastle. My Toon mates all think he's guff but that's at premiership level. He's a tough tackling left footer from my limited knowledge.
Iggy Pope
12-08-2019, 02:16 PM
Thanks.
Maybe we'd be in with a shout then if he's surplus at Newcastle. My Toon mates all think he's guff but that's at premiership level. He's a tough tackling left footer from my limited knowledge.
Get him in the 900 for the next trip to Ibrox :greengrin
Heisenberg
12-08-2019, 02:17 PM
Thanks.
Maybe we'd be in with a shout then if he's surplus at Newcastle. My Toon mates all think he's guff but that's at premiership level. He's a tough tackling left footer from my limited knowledge.
Sounds like he’d give good balance to the midfield. Unfortunately still don’t think we’d have any chance of getting him. Wages will be massive.
franck sauzee
12-08-2019, 02:22 PM
https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/steve-bruce-reflects-on-horrible-decision-on-jack-colback-and-rolando-aarons-489415
Would be happy with Colback if true. Also thought Rolando Aarons looked good in the friendly. Left winger with pace and flair
RoxburghHibs
12-08-2019, 02:33 PM
https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/steve-bruce-reflects-on-horrible-decision-on-jack-colback-and-rolando-aarons-489415
Would be happy with Colback if true. Also thought Rolando Aarons looked good in the friendly. Left winger with pace and flair
your link wasn't posted correctly. Fixed that for you :thumbsup:
https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/steve-bruce-reflects-on-horrible-decision-on-jack-colback-and-rolando-aarons-489415
SideBurns
12-08-2019, 02:38 PM
https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/steve-bruce-reflects-on-horrible-decision-on-jack-colback-and-rolando-aarons-489415
Would be happy with Colback if true. Also thought Rolando Aarons looked good in the friendly. Left winger with pace and flair
Is there a genuine suggestion we're after Colback? Thought someone just chucked his name in cause he's a ridheid!?
SHODAN
12-08-2019, 02:42 PM
Colback would be ideal.
Monts
12-08-2019, 02:48 PM
We are however continuing our fine tradition of a red head.
Done deal?
Brightside
12-08-2019, 02:54 PM
Colback?? If so Newcastle must be covering about 80% of his wages!
SHODAN
12-08-2019, 02:55 PM
Colback?? If so Newcastle must be covering about 80% of his wages!
Okay, who? :wink:
franck sauzee
12-08-2019, 02:56 PM
Is there a genuine suggestion we're after Colback? Thought someone just chucked his name in cause he's a ridheid!?
I've no idea. Someone suggested it just said I'd be delighted if true
chippy
12-08-2019, 02:58 PM
https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/steve-bruce-reflects-on-horrible-decision-on-jack-colback-and-rolando-aarons-489415
Would be happy with Colback if true. Also thought Rolando Aarons looked good in the friendly. Left winger with pace and flair
He must be from within 50 mile radius of Barnsley - only criteria
mentalhibee
12-08-2019, 03:01 PM
your link wasn't posted correctly. Fixed that for you :thumbsup:
https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/steve-bruce-reflects-on-horrible-decision-on-jack-colback-and-rolando-aarons-489415
Aaron’s looked class against us in pre season. Doubt we could afford him though.
we are hibs
12-08-2019, 03:17 PM
We are however continuing our fine tradition of a red head.
Strachan to replace specky? :cb
RossScott1991
12-08-2019, 03:24 PM
Jack Colback doesn’t get me overly excited maybe I’m just feeling grumpy after yesterday but from what I’ve seen any signing we do actually make from now to end of window should be
- pace
- trickery
- finishing
More pace and penalty box striker required imo
Edit: Colback is better than vela and Mallan so would improve in that regards, but I want another striker
CRAZYHIBBY
12-08-2019, 03:46 PM
I just want to go to bed and wake up when we're title contenders
GordonHFC
12-08-2019, 03:50 PM
I just want to go to bed and wake up when we're title contenders
Good luck with that Rip Van Winkle.
The 90+2
12-08-2019, 03:55 PM
Aaron’s looked class against us in pre season. Doubt we could afford him though.
He’s a great player.
Does Duncan Watmores wee brother play for Bath or someone? Maybe that’s who we are after.
Unseen work
12-08-2019, 04:23 PM
Colback and Aaron’s would be brilliant signings and exactly what we need. Can’t see it however, wages would be huge.
More likely to be Ben Pringle.
04Sauzee
12-08-2019, 04:27 PM
Colback and Aaron’s would be brilliant signings and exactly what we need. Can’t see it however, wages would be huge.
More likely to be Ben Pringle.
Aarons is a great player, only issue is he's more of a left winger, which would be the same as Horgan and Middleton, although Horgan can play on the right. Aarons has also played left back
Hermit Crab
12-08-2019, 04:29 PM
Colback? Are folk being serious? We couldn't afford his wages.
04Sauzee
12-08-2019, 04:31 PM
Colback? Are folk being serious? We couldn't afford his wages.
Any ideas what he's earning just now?
Edit... According to the press he's on 40k per week. Last year if his deal at Newcastle
Heisenberg
12-08-2019, 04:33 PM
Colback? Are folk being serious? We couldn't afford his wages.
Well he’s going to have to go somewhere to play football this season.
If we’d won, Sevco would have tried to cancel the loan out of spite.
😂
#2 Double Tap
12-08-2019, 04:36 PM
Any ideas what he's earning just now?
on football manager 19 he is earning £52,500. So be somewhere in that region.
Pocket change for Ronnie G.
edit: fm also had him on loan at forrest last year and said they picked up £17,500 of it.
04Sauzee
12-08-2019, 04:37 PM
on football manager 19 he is earning £52,500. So be somewhere in that region.
Pocket change for Ronnie G.
Just checked and a newspaper report from after his loan deal ended with Nottingham Forrest stated he was on 40k per week
#2 Double Tap
12-08-2019, 04:39 PM
Just checked and a newspaper report from after his loan deal ended with Nottingham Forrest stated he was on 40k per week
pretty close.
bingo70
12-08-2019, 04:39 PM
Colback? Are folk being serious? We couldn't afford his wages.
Would be a loan so we wouldn’t be paying his wages.
04Sauzee
12-08-2019, 04:40 PM
pretty close.
Very close and shows you the money that's down there. He's decent not good enough for Newcastle yet on 40k per week. Mental!
calumhibee1
12-08-2019, 04:44 PM
Colback just isn’t a goer. However, a midfield of him, Allan and it doesn’t really matter who else would be outstanding.
Hermit Crab
12-08-2019, 04:47 PM
Would be a loan so we wouldn’t be paying his wages.
And what percentage of his £40,000 pounds per week wage will we be willing to pay? :confused:
GreenCastle
12-08-2019, 04:49 PM
Colback can only go to a Scottish or European team if he wants to play football due to English window being shut and not being in the 25 player squad.
If he was to come to Scotland - more chance of the Old Firm.
Surprised Middleton hasn't been announced yet.
CMurdoch
12-08-2019, 04:52 PM
Is there a genuine suggestion we're after Colback? Thought someone just chucked his name in cause he's a ridheid!?
Hasn't been given a squad number by Newcastle, has red hair, we recently played Newcastle
A total rave me thinks.
04Sauzee
12-08-2019, 04:54 PM
Colback can only go to a Scottish or European team if he wants to play football due to English window being shut and not being in the 25 player squad.
If he was to come to Scotland - more chance of the Old Firm.
Surprised Middleton hasn't been announced yet.
Yip Celtic could sign him permanently for a few million and pay him a decent wage.
CallumLaidlaw
12-08-2019, 05:00 PM
Colback can only go to a Scottish or European team if he wants to play football due to English window being shut and not being in the 25 player squad.
If he was to come to Scotland - more chance of the Old Firm.
Surprised Middleton hasn't been announced yet.
Can still go to English lower leagues.
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stevie-bee
12-08-2019, 05:05 PM
Hecky said budget is spent ,
I think we are left with the players we have ,
Which doesn’t fill me with confidence,
bingo70
12-08-2019, 05:05 PM
Can still go to English lower leagues.
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Would league 1 clubs not be paying around the same as us with the exception of maybe Sunderland?
scoopyboy
12-08-2019, 05:09 PM
Done deal?
I was meaning Vela
bingo70
12-08-2019, 05:11 PM
I was meaning Vela
Ah ffs Scoopy you’ve sent us on a wild goose chase, he’s strawberry blonde, not proper ginger 😂
calumhibee1
12-08-2019, 05:12 PM
I was meaning Vela
🤦🏻*♂️
04Sauzee
12-08-2019, 05:15 PM
I was meaning Vela
Feckity ****
SHODAN
12-08-2019, 05:34 PM
Hecky said budget is spent ,
I think we are left with the players we have ,
Which doesn’t fill me with confidence,
If the budget is spent then we're not making the top six. Plus, the Hearts midfield - mediocre as they are - will kick the **** out of ours in September and Levein will keep his job.
Smartie
12-08-2019, 05:56 PM
If the budget is spent then we're not making the top six. Plus, the Hearts midfield - mediocre as they are - will kick the **** out of ours in September and Levein will keep his job.
If the budget is spent, at least one person should be losing their job.
Stuart93
12-08-2019, 06:23 PM
Surely the budget isn’t spent? I’m not having all this pish about “wages and that”. ST sales, fresh investment in the form of a 7 figure sum injected into the club to use as we see fit & shirt sales yet we’ve only spent money on doidge?
Something doesn’t add up there
Captain Trips
12-08-2019, 06:26 PM
Why is top 6 a target? Top 6 is a target for failure. If we are any less than 4th its not good enough. 5th or 6th is pish.
Top 6 should never enter into it we should be in that anyways in our quest for Euro spot.
JimBHibees
12-08-2019, 06:26 PM
I was meaning Vela
Boo. :greengrin
Torto7
12-08-2019, 06:27 PM
Surely the budget isn’t spent? I’m not having all this pish about “wages and that”. ST sales, fresh investment in the form of a 7 figure sum injected into the club to use as we see fit & shirt sales yet we’ve only spent money on doidge?
Something doesn’t add up there
The club even if they are having their doubts about PH need to get the finger out and bring in another couple of players.
Real Emerald
12-08-2019, 06:30 PM
The club even if they are having their doubts about PH need to get the finger out and bring in another couple of players.
The manager said he’s finished and happy with the squad. He’s either lying or clueless.
Stuart93
12-08-2019, 06:35 PM
The manager said he’s finished and happy with the squad. He’s either lying or clueless.
After yesterday, I’m beginning to wonder
And I’ve very much been in the defend Hecky and his signings camp
Borderhibbie76
12-08-2019, 06:53 PM
After yesterday, I’m beginning to wonder
And I’ve very much been in the defend Hecky and his signings campIf we are done (bar middleton) then Hecky will be sacked by Xmas as I've no doubt we will be languishing in the bottom 6 same as last year under Lennon. That midfield of ours as it stands will struggle against any top 6 side. And if those events do come to pass then serious questions need asking of our board as to why we were supposedly after both McNulty and Omeonga and now there is no budget???
A few rabbits need pulled out of hats between now and the close of the window
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#2 Double Tap
12-08-2019, 07:01 PM
If we are done (bar middleton) then Hecky will be sacked by Xmas as I've no doubt we will be languishing in the bottom 6 same as last year under Lennon. That midfield of ours as it stands will struggle against any top 6 side. And if those events do come to pass then serious questions need asking of our board as to why we were supposedly after both McNulty and Omeonga and now there is no budget???
A few rabbits need pulled out of hats between now and the close of the window
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the mcnulty money was spent on Doidge, and omeonga money on vela signing on fee. imo
when dempster came in she told us we would have 2 players for each position and that 3rd choice would be a youth player, we have not had a squad like that once in her time here.
last year we was crying out for 2xCM and we only got miligan, it is the same this year, but we got vela. We are so short on numbers. midfield needs; a right winger and 2 cm added.
Real Emerald
12-08-2019, 07:07 PM
the mcnulty money was spent on Doidge, and omeonga money on vela signing on fee. imo
when dempster came in she told us we would have 2 players for each position and that 3rd choice would be a youth player, we have not had a squad like that once in her time here.
last year we was crying out for 2xCM and we only got miligan, it is the same this year, but we got vela. We are so short on numbers. midfield needs; a right winger and 2 cm added.
I just get the feeling that the actual football team is not her top priority. We seem obsessed with community stuff. We need to make sure the squad is large enough and we have the quality 18,500 average attendances deserve. If not we’ll be very quickly back to 11,000.
flash
12-08-2019, 07:08 PM
I was meaning Vela
Of course you were......
Lee Marvin
12-08-2019, 07:09 PM
If we don't sign anyone else we are bottom 6. The midfield is so short of options it's frightening.
Hearts are about to sign another few players again this week. Why do they still have so much more money than us??
Borderhibbie76
12-08-2019, 07:12 PM
the mcnulty money was spent on Doidge, and omeonga money on vela signing on fee. imo
when dempster came in she told us we would have 2 players for each position and that 3rd choice would be a youth player, we have not had a squad like that once in her time here.
last year we was crying out for 2xCM and we only got miligan, it is the same this year, but we got vela. We are so short on numbers. midfield needs; a right winger and 2 cm added.Yup her honeymoon period is reaching an end too to be honest...it all started with the biggest budget ever nonsense last summer. Recruitment the last 3 summer windows has been dreadful tbh and only saved by loan signings in the Jan window both years. At a time when we have record crowds and ST holders plus all the McGinn money yet we have failed to properly strengthen a weakening squad.
I've not given up hope some of these new signings will come good (hope to God they do) but a blind man can see our squad is still short on numbers and quality in the middle of the park - yet we keep getting this budget is done nonsense
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Onceinawhile
12-08-2019, 07:17 PM
If we don't sign anyone else we are bottom 6. The midfield is so short of options it's frightening.
Hearts are about to sign another few players again this week. Why do they still have so much more money than us??
Because they have 8,000+ people putting money in monthly. We had roughly 2,000.
Gypsy King
12-08-2019, 07:18 PM
Bridcutt and Cummings.
Both free to leave, both would strengthen our team and both should be in budget.
Ronniekirk
12-08-2019, 07:35 PM
If we don't sign anyone else we are bottom 6. The midfield is so short of options it's frightening.
Hearts are about to sign another few players again this week. Why do they still have so much more money than us??
Partly because around ten thousand fans contribute monthly and thier anon benefactors
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BILLYHIBS
12-08-2019, 07:49 PM
No announcement on Middleton yet ?
They must be picking their moment
James Stephen
12-08-2019, 07:53 PM
If we don't sign anyone else we are bottom 6. The midfield is so short of options it's frightening.
Hearts are about to sign another few players again this week. Why do they still have so much more money than us??
Because their fans plough in, literally, millions more than us.
That money, wasted as it has been thus far, will eventually start to tell, just as it eventually has for the huns
Since452
12-08-2019, 07:56 PM
Because their fans plough in, literally, millions more than us.
That money, wasted as it has been thus far, will eventually start to tell, just as it eventually has for the huns
Hearts fans dont plough in millions
Michael
12-08-2019, 08:05 PM
Hearts fans dont plough in millions
Maybe not millions, but still more than a million per year I think.
bingo70
12-08-2019, 08:07 PM
No announcement on Middleton yet ?
They must be picking their moment
I suspect they’re waiting for people to calm down after yesterday.
madhatter
12-08-2019, 08:08 PM
I suspect they’re waiting for people to calm down after yesterday.
Dont want to distract us from getting our Morton tickets :wink:
Crab apple
12-08-2019, 08:13 PM
Hecky said budget is spent ,
I think we are left with the players we have ,
Which doesn’t fill me with confidence,
Even if more money is forthcoming I have my doubts he’d spend it wisely.
Barney McGrew
12-08-2019, 08:21 PM
Hearts fans dont plough in millions
They put in about £1.5m a year through Foundation of Hertz
James Stephen
12-08-2019, 08:48 PM
Hearts fans dont plough in millions
Over a million a year for 6 or 7 years now. What would you call it?
BILLYHIBS
12-08-2019, 08:54 PM
I don’t think I could trust Hecky with one more dime of our money
Coco Bryce
12-08-2019, 08:56 PM
Over a million a year for 6 or 7 years now. What would you call it?
Mikey Stewart said on radio tonight that they were putting in nearly £200k a MONTH 😳
calumhibee1
12-08-2019, 09:21 PM
Wilfred Bony training with Newport.. free agent and 30 yo...
Nicho87
12-08-2019, 09:29 PM
Middleton changed his mind?
The_Horde
12-08-2019, 09:29 PM
Middleton changed his mind?
Too late for that. Unfortunately for him.
Michael
12-08-2019, 09:30 PM
Wilfred Bony training with Newport.. free agent and 30 yo...
What happened to him? That's a massive drop in level.
Nicho87
12-08-2019, 09:30 PM
Too late for that. Unfortunately for him.
Poor lad
calumhibee1
12-08-2019, 09:31 PM
What happened to him? That's a massive drop in level.
Went on loan to Qatar from Swansea. Scored 5 in 7 then was released by Swansea.
The 90+2
12-08-2019, 09:36 PM
Mikey Stewart said on radio tonight that they were putting in nearly £200k a MONTH 😳
Doesn’t that go to the foundation of hearts that haven’t bought shares yet? ***** how much money they will have more than us when they actually do take over.
Stuart93
12-08-2019, 10:09 PM
Doesn’t that go to the foundation of hearts that haven’t bought shares yet? ***** how much money they will have more than us when they actually do take over.
Think this was HSL’s point. Obviously things have changed since then but does make you think when they takeover the money they’ll be able to hand to the manager for transfers. I’d imagine it won’t be levein either.
The 90+2
12-08-2019, 10:17 PM
Think this was HSL’s point. Obviously things have changed since then but does make you think when they takeover the money they’ll be able to hand to the manager for transfers. I’d imagine it won’t be levein either.
Yep. And it’s why I fully backed the HSL.
flash
12-08-2019, 10:48 PM
Too late for that. Unfortunately for him.
How is it unfortunate for him to be signing for our club? Or have I misunderstood your remark?
FilipinoHibs
12-08-2019, 10:56 PM
Doesn’t that go to the foundation of hearts that haven’t bought shares yet? ***** how much money they will have more than us when they actually do take over.
Going to pa back Budge's £2.4 million loan plus interest and some was diverted to pay for part of new shed. Budge due to be paid back in May 2020. After that I think the payments will dry up. Their income is higher than ours plus there have been some anonymous donations and loans from Budge have been used for the player budget. Dont be surprised if the Budge payback is extended as owed more on top of original £2.4 million loan
California-Hibs
12-08-2019, 11:32 PM
How is it unfortunate for him to be signing for our club? Or have I misunderstood your remark?
No, you haven't understood. Just a fan sticking a boot into his club as its the norm and easy thing to do for attention.
CMurdoch
12-08-2019, 11:57 PM
Approx. £1 million was earmarked for David Gray and Darren McGregor for their 4 contracts. My figure is a guess based on £2,500 a week for 4 years.
Wonder if Hecky wanted this. i suspect he would have asked Hibs to offer them both rolling 1 year contracts if anything.
It seemed to be something Leanne was pushing (always a role for them at the club etc) before Hecky's arrival and the 4 year deals were closed before the end of last season.
It felt like it was done to appease the fans, and their legends trope, in the wake of the Lennon sacking.
Personally, I don't think teams the size of Hibs have sufficient funds to afford for sentiment with contracts.
I understand the players will both move into non playing roles at the club but is it money well spent if it takes away funds from our spends in other areas.
I think this will be Darren's last playing season and i am concerned that David's all action style will see him continue to be injured frequently to the extent he will have to retire in two season time at the age of 32. His style of play is unique and brutal on his body.
The new guys also appear to have been signed up on long Levein type contracts.
Given only Whittaker and Slivka's contracts finish at the end of this season will there be sufficient space in the squad for new players if we can't move other players on?
This is partly the reason i think we will bring in 3 loans, including Middleton, before the window closes this summer. These loans will allow for a little more wriggle room at the end of the season.
Tin hat on re the Gray and McGregor chat.
Approx. £1 million was earmarked for David Gray and Darren McGregor for their 4 contracts. My figure is a guess based on £2,500 a week for 4 years.
Wonder if Hecky wanted this. i suspect he would have asked Hibs to offer them both rolling 1 year contracts if anything.
It seemed to be something Leanne was pushing (always a role for them at the club etc) before Hecky's arrival and the 4 year deals were closed before the end of last season.
It felt like it was done to appease the fans, and their legends trope, in the wake of the Lennon sacking.
Personally, I don't think teams the size of Hibs have sufficient funds to afford for sentiment with contracts.
I understand the players will both move into non playing roles at the club but is it money well spent if it takes away funds from our spends in other areas.
I think this will be Darren's last playing season and i am concerned that David's all action style will see him continue to be injured frequently to the extent he will have to retire in two season time at the age of 32. His style of play is unique and brutal on his body.
The new guys also appear to have been signed up on long Levein type contracts.
Given only Whittaker and Slivka's contracts finish at the end of this season will there be sufficient space in the squad for new players if we can't move other players on?
This is partly the reason i think we will bring in 3 loans, including Middleton, before the window closes this summer. These loans will allow for a little more wriggle room at the end of the season.
Tin hat on re the Gray and McGregor chat.
I’d like to think if both gray and McGregor moved to coaching roles their contract would be amended to suit even if it is during the recently signed 4 year deals.
As for your point re the 2 players out of contract PH has stated a few times that it was important for him and the club to be in a position where the constant merry go round of players was at an end, I know it’s not easy to understand the point just now with the question marks hanging over his signings but he’s obviously had confidence in the players he’s brought in and is expecting them to form the nucleus of his side going forward..here’s hoping he’s got it right
calumhibee1
13-08-2019, 06:44 AM
No, you haven't understood. Just a fan sticking a boot into his club as its the norm and easy thing to do for attention.
:agree:
We’re now at the point where fans aren’t just wanting rid of PH but to emphasise that point they’re suggesting that people are actually unfortunate to be part of our club.
I wonder if they realise they’re not obliged to support us if they think that players are unfortunate for having to sign for us?
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