Summer 2019 transfer thread

[Unseen work]

So why post that if you imagine it's nonsense? (And I'd bet it is nonsense by the way)

So I’m the same way, why reply if you imagine it’s nonsense?

It was a direct reply about a transfer involving him where a hibs fan said that’s the reason behind it.

Worth posting imo to see if anyone had heard similar. Certainly wouldn’t expect that from Lennon and if it was the case I wouldn’t want him representing my club.

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

So I’m the same way, why reply if you imagine it’s nonsense?

It was a direct reply about a transfer involving him where a hibs fan said that’s the reason behind it.

Worth posting imo to see if anyone had heard similar. Certainly wouldn’t expect that from Lennon and if it was the case I wouldn’t want him representing my club.

In fairness there was some suggestion at the time that whatever had been said was homophobic. Of course the statements issued by both Hibs and NL made it clear that this couldn’t possibly have happened, and nor could anything else bad, but NL was still leaving.

[PatHead]

So I’m the same way, why reply if you imagine it’s nonsense?

It was a direct reply about a transfer involving him where a hibs fan said that’s the reason behind it.

Worth posting imo to see if anyone had heard similar. Certainly wouldn’t expect that from Lennon and if it was the case I wouldn’t want him representing my club.

So our openly gay MD would not encourage a player who wants to come out to say something. Aye that makes sense.

Think I will believe twitter over common sense.

[AlbertK86]

I don’t think Mallan will be a first team player next season.

Gonna have to sign some player to replace his goals and assists from midfield then


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[Northern Hibby]

So our openly gay MD would not encourage a player who wants to come out to say something. Aye that makes sense.

Think I will believe twitter over common sense.

Purely speculation, but could that not have added to the breakdown between them both?

[Brightside]

Not read the whole thread but I heard Lawrence Shankland was signing. No idea if this is correct but apparently the person who passed it on claimed it was from a good source.

He has had an offer from us since Jan.

[The 90+2]

Gonna have to sign some player to replace his goals and assists from midfield then


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I think that will be sorted over the summer. Not that I’m hoping it’s the case I just don’t think he will be in outfield first choice next season.

[Tyler Durden]

I can't see Mallan and Allan playing in the same team irrespective of who the other players are.

I could see one or the other working fine with Dylan.

I’m not sure why. From the team at the weekend, we’ll likely keep the same shape IMO. We’ll have a new energetic player in place of Milligan. Allan takes Omeonga’s place as the more advanced central midfielder.

Malians job recently has been to get around the park and keep the ball moving. He’s largely done that very well in the post split games. He’ll keep improving as Heckingbottom works with him. Might find another new arrival comes in ahead of him but there’ll be no issues with Mallan and Allan in the same side

[Northern Hibby]

In fairness there was some suggestion at the time that whatever had been said was homophobic. Of course the statements issued by both Hibs and NL made it clear that this couldn’t possibly have happened, and nor could anything else bad, but NL was still leaving.

my take on the whole thing was NL did say something Homophobic from which there was no return, but he had just been talking about what he gets called from the stand and how bad it is, now if the homophobic comment had come out he'd have looked pretty hypocritical, so he left by "mutual consent" for less money, we saved money he saved face.

all in my head obviously :greengrin

[Tyler Durden]

There has been a lot of talk of 442 being Hecky's preferred set up.

That is what he initially put in place when he came in until he realised we didn't have the players to pull it off, the way he wanted us to, successfully, and switched to putting Kamberi out wide.

He stuck with it because it was working for us and getting the results we needed with the players at his disposal.

He has allowed Bartley and Milligan to leave suggesting he doesn't intend to play with a dedicated defensive midfielder and looks like he has been trying to get Mallan to play more box to box rather than just as an attacking midfielder since he came in.

Both those things suggest to me that our midfielders will be expected to be more all-purpose players rather than having specific defensive/attacking roles which points to there being less in midfield than the 5 man set up we have been using with a defensive midfielder sitting deep and attacking midfielders/wingers in front of them.

Your maybe right and a Liverpool style 4-3-3 could be on the card as well but I'm just going with what we have been told about Hecky liking a good old 442

I don’t think we’ll be playing 4-4-2. I think he played it in the first few games to keep things simple for the squad and assess the players available.

Wouldn’t suit Allan or Boyle and whoever you play in centre midfield, they’re gonna be up against it.

[brog]

I don’t think Mallan will be a first team player next season.

Can't imagine why you would think that. The Player's POTY who started every league game under Hecky. I'd imagine he'd be about the 1st name on the team sheet.

[SHODAN]

Not even June and this thread is already a hoot. Going to be a deep mine of made up rubbish by the time the window ends :faf::faf:

I'm quite enjoying it - going to try not to take it seriously this season. :wink:

[Just Jimmy]

Flo Kamberi was our joint top scorer with 13 goals. that was despite zero craft from midfield for most of the season and the fact he was pushed out wide to fit mcnulty in.

throw in the fact Lennon battered him at every chance.

I love dylan and I'd love him back but I wouldn't be swapping flo, we'd be left with Shaw...

plus flo was at his best with Scott Allan behind him. that's happening soon.

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[Lewiehas2]

Can't imagine why you would think that. The Player's POTY who started every league game under Hecky. I'd imagine he'd be about the 1st name on the team sheet.

But he was rubbish for months!! That period between October and March he suddenly became an imposter and went missing, doesn't like the midfield battle and his only attributes are set-pieces. Surely the manager doesn't see anything in him! :rolleyes::cb

[Winston Ingram]

It’d be a mistake to bin Flo. He’s demonstrated he can do it. Just needs the confidence back that Lennon ripped out of him.

The end of of season form was largely down to him being shunted out left

[HoboHarry]

Heard we are looking at Adam Lundkvist at Houston Dynamo.....

[Haymaker]

Heard we are looking at Adam Lundkvist at Houston Dynamo.....

Left back?

[superfurryhibby]

It’d be a mistake to bin Flo. He’s demonstrated he can do it. Just needs the confidence back that Lennon ripped out of him.

The end of of season form was largely down to him being shunted out left

Here’s hoping, because he was effective during his loan spell and I was delighted we got him signed up on a long term contract.

That bought him a lot of leeway, but the goodwill factor has pretty much dried up. He was gash for most of the season, albeit he scored a couple of very good goals.

Who knows what has happened to him. Playing with an injury, poor management, changes to personnel supplying the ammunition, loss of confidence have probably all contributed.

Personally, I want him to stay, fight for a place and grown up a bit as a player.
He sometimes looks very naive in the way he plays. Too easily booked and too easily goaded into the physical battle. He needs to wisen up and get his emotions in check. More than one way to skin a cat etc,etc.

[The 90+2]

It’d be a mistake to bin Flo. He’s demonstrated he can do it. Just needs the confidence back that Lennon ripped out of him.

The end of of season form was largely down to him being shunted out left

Perhaps he would want to leave rather than being binned?

[The 90+2]

Can't imagine why you would think that. The Player's POTY who started every league game under Hecky. I'd imagine he'd be about the 1st name on the team sheet.

He didn’t play much for him at Barnsley and Allan is a better player also I think Hecky favours Horgan.

[Winston Ingram]

Perhaps he would want to leave rather than being binned?

I don’t think we’ll bin him unless we get McNulty. Play him in the right position and give him some service he’ll be fine.

[Posh Hibby]

Not a rumour, but I saw Mulumbos loan spell at Kilmarnock finished. Not sure he will play much at Celtic.

Any takers for a season loan if possible? Could be the defensive mid we need to partner Mallan.

[The 90+2]

Not a rumour, but I saw Mulumbos loan spell at Kilmarnock finished. Not sure he will play much at Celtic.

Any takers for a season loan if possible? Could be the defensive mid we need to partner Mallan.

Hell yeah.

[My_Wife_Camille]

Not a rumour, but I saw Mulumbos loan spell at Kilmarnock finished. Not sure he will play much at Celtic.

Any takers for a season loan if possible? Could be the defensive mid we need to partner Mallan.
Always rated Molomba, would be a good signing

[Tobias Funke]

Always rated Molomba, would be a good signing

Agreed, Mamango would be an excellent addition.

[Posh Hibby]

With Clarke leaving Killi he's surely less likely to go back. We'd probably be willing to cover more of his wake. Personally think it would be a very good signing if possible.

[HAZ2000]

Mulumbu is exactly what we need after losing Milligan and Bartley

[Hibi]

Mulumbu is exactly what we need after losing Milligan and Bartley

I’m not convinced. I thought in the last game against Killie there was too many times that Omeonga was running away from him, didn’t look like he still had the legs. Definitely a couple of years ago but don’t think he has the energy anymore.

[Unseen work]

Heard we are looking at Adam Lundkvist at Houston Dynamo.....

https://youtu.be/KD8Y8hacOQM Sign him.

Sometimes I wonder if we can do better than Lewis, but for me it’s not just his ability we would miss.

His passion, will to win, attitude and just getting what it means to be a hibs player would be tough to lose. He is a real driving force and need players like that especially in derbies etc

[hibee316]

With Clarke leaving Killi he's surely less likely to go back. We'd probably be willing to cover more of his wake.

I know we have been signing some older players recently, but I rather we got them in before they were dead! ;)

[Billy Whizz]

I know we have been signing some older players recently, but I rather we got them in before they were dead! ;)

Ha ha

[Stuart93]

https://youtu.be/KD8Y8hacOQM Sign him.

Sometimes I wonder if we can do better than Lewis, but for me it’s not just his ability we would miss.

His passion, will to win, attitude and just getting what it means to be a hibs player would be tough to lose. He is a real driving force and need players like that especially in derbies etc

I agree but if we had the chance of a better left back than Lewis than we should absolutely bring them in, no room in football for sentiment it’s all about improving

[bigwheel]

I’m not convinced. I thought in the last game against Killie there was too many times that Omeonga was running away from him, didn’t look like he still had the legs. Definitely a couple of years ago but don’t think he has the energy anymore.

Thought Mulumbu was the best player on the park that day ....

[The_Horde]

Agreed, Mamango would be an excellent addition.

He showed enough in his time here to merit a deal and that goal against raith was sublime. Should never have been allowed to leave!

[The Modfather]

Not a rumour, but I saw Mulumbos loan spell at Kilmarnock finished. Not sure he will play much at Celtic.

Any takers for a season loan if possible? Could be the defensive mid we need to partner Mallan.

Good player and wouldn’t say no to signing him but the common consensus was that we needed energy and mobility in the midfield. Would need to build the midfield around him and surround him with energy.

[AlbertK86]

I think that will be sorted over the summer. Not that I’m hoping it’s the case I just don’t think he will be in outfield first choice next season.

We’ve not had a return of goals like Mallan’s from midfield for years ... probably since Pat McGinlay ... not easy to find goal scoring midfielders on our budget


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[BoyledEgg]

Not read the whole thread but I heard Lawrence Shankland was signing. No idea if this is correct but apparently the person who passed it on claimed it was from a good source.

Done deal I’ve been told. Will be announced once the early bird deadline has passed.

[The_Horde]

Done deal I’ve been told. Will be announced once the early bird deadline has passed.

So anytime as of about 2 weeks ago then?

[Since452]

Done deal I’ve been told. Will be announced once the early bird deadline has passed.

Seemed to have disappeard since January. Not sure what he would add.

[weecounty hibby]

Seemed to have disappeard since January. Not sure what he would add.

I saw him in two games against Dundee United. The first game he looked unplayable as Ayr won 4-1 I think. The second game United won and he looked like a totally different player

[BoyledEgg]

So anytime as of about 2 weeks ago then?

Seat release deadline I mean.

[BoyledEgg]

Seemed to have disappeard since January. Not sure what he would add.

Was out for a few weeks with a injury and never recovered fully from it.

[Robbo6-2]

Can't see Shankland signing for us.

Heard hes desperate to go down south

[Lago]

Can't see Shankland signing for us.

Heard hes desperate to go down south
Agree

[AlbertK86]

Can't see Shankland signing for us.

Heard hes desperate to go down south

Not sure he’s good enough for down south yet


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[Unseen work]

I’m really not convinced about Shankland although his record speaks for itself.

Seems to have went off the boil since January.

[The 90+2]

Can't see Shankland signing for us.

Heard hes desperate to go down south

I’ve heard otherwise and he wants to stay up here as he’s built up a lot of clients in his other job and wants to continue that if possible too.

[Rattler]

Done deal I’ve been told. Will be announced once the early bird deadline has passed.
I’ll try to find out on this. Good friends with a current player at Ayr and see what he’s got to say about it 🤷🏻*♂️

[BoyledEgg]

I’ll try to find out on this. Good friends with a current player at Ayr and see what he’s got to say about it 🤷🏻*♂️

Kirk Broadfoot told me at the end of last season that McGeouch had signed a pre contract for Blackburn and Jordan Jones was leaving Killie last summer so sometimes even players get it wrong!

[Rattler]

Kirk Broadfoot told me at the end of last season that McGeouch had signed a pre contract for Blackburn and Jordan Jones was leaving Killie last summer so sometimes even players get it wrong!
Noted.

You might want to review your contacts😋

Mine at Ayr is100%, but that obviously doesn’t mean that he knows about everyone else’s situation.

It’ll only be what he knows and has been told 😉

[jacomo]

I agree but if we had the chance of a better left back than Lewis than we should absolutely bring them in, no room in football for sentiment it’s all about improving


There’s a better left back than Lewis? Ridiculous.

I wanted to see more of Sean Mackie at left back. If he can become the natural understudy to Lewis then we can push the boat out in other areas.

[hibbie02]

There’s a better left back than Lewis? Ridiculous.

I wanted to see more of Sean Mackie at left back. If he can become the natural understudy to Lewis then we can push the boat out in other areas.

Totally agree. I am a huge Lewie Fan, but I like what I have seen of Mackie and if he keeps progressing with Lewie as a mentor, he will be our next Left Back, hopefully for some time.

[Since452]

Totally agree. I am a huge Lewie Fan, but I like what I have seen of Mackie and if he keeps progressing with Lewie as a mentor, he will be our next Left Back, hopefully for some time.

Mackie looks like the big, strong athletic type that Heckingbottom wants. I think he's going to become a very good player

[B.H.F.C]

Mackie looks like the big, strong athletic type that Heckingbottom wants. I think he's going to become a very good player

He’ll need to play to become a good player and, at the moment, I still think he’s a bit behind Lewis.

I thought he had a chance around Christmas time and after the break in January but Lewis was right back in to the team as soon as he was back from injury. Don’t see that changing this season.

[hibbie02]

He’ll need to play to become a good player and, at the moment, I still think he’s a bit behind Lewis.

I thought he had a chance around Christmas time and after the break in January but Lewis was right back in to the team as soon as he was back from injury. Don’t see that changing this season.

I would give him a run out in the League Cup and early rounds of Scottish Cup. I am sure Lewie would benefit from a match off here and there. They use the Cups in England to rotate the squad, we should be doing the same in certain positions.

[bigwheel]

Mackie looks like the big, strong athletic type that Heckingbottom wants. I think he's going to become a very good player

Not seen anything from Mackie to suggest he is strong enough defensively to be our regular left back ...great left peg for sure...but can’t see him becoming a regular ..

[B.H.F.C]

I would give him a run out in the League Cup and early rounds of Scottish Cup. I am sure Lewie would benefit from a match off here and there. They use the Cups in England to rotate the squad, we should be doing the same in certain positions.

No issue with that from Lewis’s point of view but don’t think it’s going to do much for Mackie, the odd game against Montrose or that.

[Billy Whizz]

No issue with that from Lewis’s point of view but don’t think it’s going to do much for Mackie, the odd game against Montrose or that.

For me Mackie is a better player a wee bit further forward than a natural left back

[The Leith Dutch]

He’ll need to play to become a good player and, at the moment, I still think he’s a bit behind Lewis.

I thought he had a chance around Christmas time and after the break in January but Lewis was right back in to the team as soon as he was back from injury. Don’t see that changing this season.

I reckon he has a good shout as a proper left midfielder in an old school four man midfield. Play Mallan right and bring in two proper ball winning centre midfielders to control the game in the centre.

[Stuart93]

I reckon he has a good shout as a proper left midfielder in an old school four man midfield. Play Mallan right and bring in two proper ball winning centre midfielders to control the game in the centre.

Mallan hasn’t got the pace to play right mid

[Heisenberg]

Mark Milligan’s agent says he’s got offers to stay in Scotland as well as from other clubs in Europe. Be interesting to see where he ends up.

[J-C]

I reckon he has a good shout as a proper left midfielder in an old school four man midfield. Play Mallan right and bring in two proper ball winning centre midfielders to control the game in the centre.


And where is Boyle going to play in your team?

[The Leith Dutch]

Mallan hasn’t got the pace to play right mid

Agree if you want a winger.

Beckham played right mid without pace and for me he's a reasonable comparison to Mallan - good passing range and free kicks but could be better defensively.

Right midfield for me isn't a bad match in terms of utilising Mallan's strengths and minimising the exposure of parts of his game that are not as strong.

[MWHIBBIES]

Agree if you want a winger.

Beckham played right mid without pace and for me he's a reasonable comparison to Mallan - good passing range and free kicks but could be better defensively.

Right midfield for me isn't a bad match in terms of utilising Mallan's strengths and minimising the exposure of parts of his game that are not as strong.

Actually agree. One of his best games this season was vs Hamilton at home coming from the left.

[The Leith Dutch]

And where is Boyle going to play in your team?

If you were playing him in that team likely in place of Mallan as an out and out winger.

It flags something that I think will be an interesting decision next season about who you play attacking wise.
If you play Allan, Boyle and Mallan in the same 11 (presumably with a striker) then I think you're either light in the centre of midfield or you don't have a balanced team.

Might change with the right signing but that's where my head's at right now.

[007]

Sounds like our chances of getting McNulty just got better.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-receive-boost-for-hopes-of-landing-reading-striker-marc-mcnulty-1-4933491

[Tug Wilson]

If you were playing him in that team likely in place of Mallan as an out and out winger.

It flags something that I think will be an interesting decision next season about who you play attacking wise.
If you play Allan, Boyle and Mallan in the same 11 (presumably with a striker) then I think you're either light in the centre of midfield or you don't have a balanced team.

Might change with the right signing but that's where my head's at right now.

I can see us playing a 4-2-3-1 formation with Horgan - Allan - Boyle playing behind a striker (potentially McNulty). The make up of the 2 midfielders behind them is where it gets interesting. Currently we have Mallan and Slivka and looking to get Omeonga back. I not convinced that any 2 out of those 3 work so expect to see some new faces coming in to challenge for those roles.

[The Spaceman]

Sounds like our chances of getting McNulty just got better.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-receive-boost-for-hopes-of-landing-reading-striker-marc-mcnulty-1-4933491

Promising. Heckingbottom has made it clear he wants his dealings wrapped up early, so here we have two willing clubs and a willing player in the transaction. Just need to find the right strike price. The £1m mark is scary though - I like McNulty and would be delighted to have him back (especially with Scott Allan and Boyle back in the mix next season) but not sure we can break the bank i.e. a £500k bid.

[04Sauzee]

Sounds like our chances of getting McNulty just got better.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-receive-boost-for-hopes-of-landing-reading-striker-marc-mcnulty-1-4933491

Read that yesterday and wasn't sure how it improved our chances? Reading not looking likely to be loaning him out and would probably want a fee. Not sure we could afford the fee and wages

[Brightside]

Read that yesterday and wasn't sure how it improved our chances? Reading not looking likely to be loaning him out and would probably want a fee. Not sure we could afford the fee and wages

Wages wont be a problem with him.... Reading are looking for 500k ish... we wont go over 300k. Rightly so. I imagine we will go in low with a sell on clause.

[The Leith Dutch]

I can see us playing a 4-2-3-1 formation with Horgan - Allan - Boyle playing behind a striker (potentially McNulty). The make up of the 2 midfielders behind them is where it gets interesting. Currently we have Mallan and Slivka and looking to get Omeonga back. I not convinced that any 2 out of those 3 work so expect to see some new faces coming in to challenge for those roles.

If we do go that formation - and I agree it's probably one he's thinking of - then I agree on the midfield.

For me you can't play Mallan as one of those two midfielders. From what I've seen of Slivka I'm not convinced he's good for that system either.

Sorting the centre midfield is, along with the obvious striker issue, the main job in the transfer window.

[Unseen work]

Always stunned at people doubting Mallan.

Out with the first couple of games for us, mainly in Europe he has played a deeper role in midfield which allows him to get on the ball snd dictate
play.

He was poor defensively but since Heckinbottom has came in there has been a massive improvement, he also seems stronger and quicker. Last week the Aberdeen winger McLennan (who is a big lad) tried to knock it past him and he out muscled him and won the ball back, would never have seen that before

The only issue is with playing him so deep you’re missing out his main attribute of scoring goals.

I think his long range of passing is what Heckingbottom likes though, he can effortlessly do it and gives us a one on one scenario with winger against fullback that he was recently talking about wanting to get better at

[SHODAN]

Mallan has been great since Hecky came in. Happy for him to be a first pick next season provided he does some defensive work too.

[Hibi]

Mallan has been great since Hecky came in. Happy for him to be a first pick next season provided he does some defensive work too.

Agreed, I certainly wasn't his biggest fan but think his workrate and strength has improved no end. Also putting in the odd hefty tackle like that against Celtic.

[The 90+2]

Read that yesterday and wasn't sure how it improved our chances? Reading not looking likely to be loaning him out and would probably want a fee. Not sure we could afford the fee and wages

We will get him on loan for a year.

[The_Horde]

Anyone heard anything about us having spoken to Lewis MacLeod? (ex rangers and brentford)

[The Leith Dutch]

Always stunned at people doubting Mallan.

Out with the first couple of games for us, mainly in Europe he has played a deeper role in midfield which allows him to get on the ball snd dictate
play.

He was poor defensively but since Heckinbottom has came in there has been a massive improvement, he also seems stronger and quicker. Last week the Aberdeen winger McLennan (who is a big lad) tried to knock it past him and he out muscled him and won the ball back, would never have seen that before

The only issue is with playing him so deep you’re missing out his main attribute of scoring goals.

I think his long range of passing is what Heckingbottom likes though, he can effortlessly do it and gives us a one on one scenario with winger against fullback that he was recently talking about wanting to get better at

FWIW - I like Mallan a lot as a player. I certainly wouldn't say he's terrible defensively but I think it has to be considered in light of the formation.

If we play four attacking players (e.g. Allan, McNulty, Boyle and Horgan) then I think the other two midfielders (assuming a back four) have to be solid.

It's not that Allan and Horgan are shrinking violets and it's not that we have to have two thugs in the centre but I think having one plus Mallan would leave the defence exposed too much against a lot of the teams in the league.

[The 90+2]

FWIW - I like Mallan a lot as a player. I certainly wouldn't say he's terrible defensively but I think it has to be considered in light of the formation.

If we play four attacking players (e.g. Allan, McNulty, Boyle and Horgan) then I think the other two midfielders (assuming a back four) have to be solid.

It's not that Allan and Horgan are shrinking violets and it's not that we have to have two thugs in the centre but I think having one plus Mallan would leave the defence exposed too much against a lot of the teams in the league.

Good post.

[GordonHFC]

There must be money available for McNulty if we want him. Remember we took McLaren on a years loan originally with the option of buying him at the end of the season. Obviously it did not work out with him though.

[J-C]

If you were playing him in that team likely in place of Mallan as an out and out winger.

It flags something that I think will be an interesting decision next season about who you play attacking wise.
If you play Allan, Boyle and Mallan in the same 11 (presumably with a striker) then I think you're either light in the centre of midfield or you don't have a balanced team.

Might change with the right signing but that's where my head's at right now.


I can see us playing a 4-2-3-1 formation with Horgan - Allan - Boyle playing behind a striker (potentially McNulty). The make up of the 2 midfielders behind them is where it gets interesting. Currently we have Mallan and Slivka and looking to get Omeonga back. I not convinced that any 2 out of those 3 work so expect to see some new faces coming in to challenge for those roles.

4-3-3/4-2-3-1/4-5-1 is a very flexible systems which need pace and athleticism, it offers the chance to attack and defend with fluidity and done properly it works perfectly.

[hibs#1]

Anyone heard anything about us having spoken to Lewis MacLeod? (ex rangers and brentford)

Think he was mentioned on here, would be an interesting signing still pretty young as well I'm sure.

[The Modfather]

Always stunned at people doubting Mallan.

Out with the first couple of games for us, mainly in Europe he has played a deeper role in midfield which allows him to get on the ball snd dictate
play.

He was poor defensively but since Heckinbottom has came in there has been a massive improvement, he also seems stronger and quicker. Last week the Aberdeen winger McLennan (who is a big lad) tried to knock it past him and he out muscled him and won the ball back, would never have seen that before

The only issue is with playing him so deep you’re missing out his main attribute of scoring goals.

I think his long range of passing is what Heckingbottom likes though, he can effortlessly do it and gives us a one on one scenario with winger against fullback that he was recently talking about wanting to get better at

I like Mallan, and think he is a better footballer than he is given credit for. However, I don’t think he is good enough or mobile enough to really dictate a game from deep and make us tick IMO. We’ve seen how important that role is with McGeough, and while Mallan has many attributes McGeough doesn’t I just don’t think he’s good enough at the role of everything going through him and making the team tick.

I’d have him competing with Allan (unless Heckingbottom could work out how to get them both into the team in that area) for that role behind the striker or making Frank Lampard-esque late runs into the box. Still feels like playing him deeper is, to a degree, shoehorning him into that position.

[Blocks Biloxi]

Anyone heard anything about us having spoken to Lewis MacLeod? (ex rangers and brentford)

Good player whenever he managed to get on the pitch at Brentford, but so injury prone.

[GloryGlory]

Good player whenever he managed to get on the pitch at Brentford, but so injury prone.

He'll fit right in! :greengrin

[Onion]

I would give him a run out in the League Cup and early rounds of Scottish Cup. I am sure Lewie would benefit from a match off here and there. They use the Cups in England to rotate the squad, we should be doing the same in certain positions.

Because the cups have been devalued to the point of being an interference in EPL survival / Europe for most clubs. In Scotland, we've no chance of winning the league and Europe is a mix blessing. The Cups are the only realistic chance of success for a club like Hibs, so I wouldn't want Hibs to start treating them like training matches - the way Hearts treat every match as a warm up for derbies :wink:

[04Sauzee]

Wonder how much of a windfall

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-set-to-cash-in-if-john-mcginn-gets-aston-villa-into-the-premier-league-1-4934442/amp?__twitter_impression=true

[truehibernian]

Wonder how much of a windfall

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/hibs-set-to-cash-in-if-john-mcginn-gets-aston-villa-into-the-premier-league-1-4934442/amp?__twitter_impression=true

I think we will get a windfall either way. SJM gets promotion then we will see upwards of £2 million according to conversations Steve Bruce had after the transfer. If they don't win, there will be a clamour of clubs bidding for him in the Premiership for which we have a sizeable sell on. For all those that slate Rod, he's not daft :wink::greengrin

Either way I'm sure our transfer kitty will be swelled for next season.

One thing I think it highlights to young, hungry talent is that it pays to not 'chase the money' and to do your apprenticeship and get a few seasons with the likes of Hibs under your belt. And live your life off the pitch properly :aok:

[stokesmessiah]

I think we will get a windfall either way. SJM gets promotion then we will see upwards of £2 million according to conversations Steve Bruce had after the transfer. If they don't win, there will be a clamour of clubs bidding for him in the Premiership for which we have a sizeable sell on. For all those that slate Rod, he's not daft :wink::greengrin

Either way I'm sure our transfer kitty will be swelled for next season.

One thing I think it highlights to young, hungry talent is that it pays to not 'chase the money' and to do your apprenticeship and get a few seasons with the likes of Hibs under your belt. And live your life off the pitch properly :aok:

Would we not be better if they got promoted and then someone bought him?

[HoboHarry]

Would we not be better if they got promoted and then someone bought him?
I was wondering that too. If they get promoted and then get an offer they can't refuse would we benefit twice?

[Smartie]

Whatever happens, a motm performance from SKM as he leads Villa to the Premier League would be a good thing for Hibs.

[Since452]

Whatever happens, a motm performance from SKM as he leads Villa to the Premier League would be a good thing for Hibs.

A motm performance at Wembley will go a long way to him going for mega money and we all know John likes the big occasion.

[stokesmessiah]

I was wondering that too. If they get promoted and then get an offer they can't refuse would we benefit twice?

I dont see why not, they seem to be fairly standard
You have to assume that selling at the price we did there must of been some decent add ons in the contract?

[Shrekko]

I think we will get a windfall either way. SJM gets promotion then we will see upwards of £2 million according to conversations Steve Bruce had after the transfer. If they don't win, there will be a clamour of clubs bidding for him in the Premiership for which we have a sizeable sell on. For all those that slate Rod, he's not daft :wink::greengrin

Either way I'm sure our transfer kitty will be swelled for next season.

One thing I think it highlights to young, hungry talent is that it pays to not 'chase the money' and to do your apprenticeship and get a few seasons with the likes of Hibs under your belt. And live your life off the pitch properly :aok:

I honestly don’t think Villa will sell McGinn in the near future regardless of Monday’s result. They are cash rich now and he’s a huge fans favourite ... second only to Jack Grealish. Some EPL team would need to blow them away with an incredible offer and I just don’t see it after only 1 year down there. I doubt even a bid of £25-30 million would be accepted.

[1875STEVE]

I was wondering that too. If they get promoted and then get an offer they can't refuse would we benefit twice?

yes.

We have a sell-on.

[Hibs90]

Brophy anyone?

[MacGruber]

Brophy anyone?

Yes, very good player. Strong and pacey. Heard something?

[Juice-Terry]

Brophy anyone?

In a heartbeat.

[Hermit Crab]

Brophy anyone?


Still has 14 months left on his contract at Kilmarnock and we won't be paying a high fee for him.

[Hibbyradge]

I honestly don’t think Villa will sell McGinn in the near future regardless of Monday’s result. They are cash rich now and he’s a huge fans favourite ... second only to Jack Grealish. Some EPL team would need to blow them away with an incredible offer and I just don’t see it after only 1 year down there. I doubt even a bid of £25-30 million would be accepted.

McGinn might want to move ...

[MWHIBBIES]

Mcginn won't leave regardless of Villa being promoted or not. He didn't abandon us, he won't abandon them.

[Since452]

Brophy anyone?

I'd carry him to Easter Road

[Hibbyradge]

Mcginn won't leave regardless of Villa being promoted or not. He didn't abandon us, he won't abandon them.

It's not as matter of fact as that, though.

He has a contract like every other player.

That will come to an end.

If he wants a move, he won't need to abandon Villa, he'll simply see out his contract.

And like us, Villa won't allow that to happen without recompense.

[04Sauzee]

Mcginn won't leave regardless of Villa being promoted or not. He didn't abandon us, he won't abandon them.

Villa don't get promoted they may need to start bringing in some money to the club

[Hibs90]

Yes, very good player. Strong and pacey. Heard something?

Nah just a suggestion. I'm not sure of his contract or situation or that. Just a player I admire. Got something about him.

[MWHIBBIES]

It's not as matter of fact as that, though.

He has a contract like every other player.

That will come to an end.

If he wants a move, he won't need to abandon Villa, he'll simply see out his contract.

And like us, Villa won't allow that to happen without recompense.

Well, I meant this summer

[jacomo]

Would we not be better if they got promoted and then someone bought him?


The Villa fans I know all love SJM, and he’s not the type to chuck his toys oot the pram.

Very likely he will stay there next season whether they get promoted or not.

[Shrekko]

McGinn might want to move ...

He may but we’ve seen he’s not an agitator and is on a good number down there.

I’m talking short term remember. I think the most likely outcome is he gets an improved contract at Villa same as Grealish did when Spurs wanted him.

Villa are massive - back in the EPL and they’re one of the top 10 clubs in England IMO.

[The 90+2]

The Villa fans I know all love SJM, and he’s not the type to chuck his toys oot the pram.

Very likely he will stay there next season whether they get promoted or not.

No Premiership parachute payment may say otherwise. I could easily see him getting into the likes of Newcastle or West Ham sides.

[Gmack7]

IMO the best scenario for Hibs is if Villa go up and he rips up the premier league, I'd live to see him going at Pogba, Dier Henderson and the like, his value would rocket in the PL IMO of course

[brog]

I honestly don’t think Villa will sell McGinn in the near future regardless of Monday’s result. They are cash rich now and he’s a huge fans favourite ... second only to Jack Grealish. Some EPL team would need to blow them away with an incredible offer and I just don’t see it after only 1 year down there. I doubt even a bid of £25-30 million would be accepted.

Agreed, there is no chance of SJM leaving Villa in the coming season. Even if, as you say Villa get an offer of about £30m it would cost them that to replace him & their fans would go crazy. The windfall if Villa get promoted is a bonus, we'll have to wait a while for sell on cash.

[Franck Stanton]

Any transfer rumours about players Hibs are interested in ?

[The 90+2]

Any transfer rumours about players Hibs are interested in ?

Adam Jackson.

[Franck Stanton]

Adam Jackson.

Yep, been doing the rounds for few weeks now, as Becky signed him for Barnsley. Perhaps didn't make myself clear, any new rumours. But thanks for your reply anyway.

[Billy Whizz]

Adam Jackson.

Is he a leftie or a rightie defender

[The 90+2]

Is he a leftie or a rightie defender

Right footed Billy.

[J-C]

Is he a leftie or a rightie defender


What's happened to the young NZ right back Andrew Blake, is he being kept on or let go, I understood he was a fairly decent prospect.

[Billy Whizz]

Right footed Billy.

Ta, thought we have needed more a leftie to challenge Paul Hanlon

[The 90+2]

Ta, thought we have needed more a leftie to challenge Paul Hanlon

I thought that originally too but with McGregor getting older and Ambrose not really replaced I suppose it kind of makes sense and the boy is highly rated - just can’t get games ahead of Liam Lindsey who is expected to go for big ££ at some point.

[Billy Whizz]

I thought that originally too but with McGregor getting older and Ambrose not really replaced I suppose it kind of makes sense and the boy is highly rated - just can’t get games ahead of Liam Lindsey who is expected to go for big ££ at some point.

Can he play right back too?

[Ozyhibby]

I liked Barker but think he is one of them now he’s left that is overrated.

He could do some very good things but his end product and decision making were poor a lot of the time.

He flattered to deceive a lot however near the end of the season his form seemed to pick up and he got a couple of goals and assists.

Funny when you compare him to Horgan (who doesn’t seem to get much credit) Horgan stars are quite a bit better.

Horgan
Goals - 7
Assists - 7
Games - 35

Barker
Goals - 2
Assists - 4
Games - 29

Now I really do like Barker, he has great pace and close control, he can beat a man like he’s not even there. His injuries worry me though as he missed a fair chunk of the season with us and again this season with Preston.

All that said would I take him back? Absolutely. But the deal needs to be right.

How many minutes on the pitch did Barker have in those games though?
Horgan starts where as Barker was usually a sub?


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[Unseen work]

How many minutes on the pitch did Barker have in those games though?
Horgan starts where as Barker was usually a sub?


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Barker was a starter to begin with, only a sub when he was coming back from injuries. Horgan was also in and out the team quite a bit under Lennon and seems to always be on that gets subbed on 60-70 minutes

Horgan started 6 more games.

[patlowe]

Barker was excellent at taking the ball from deep and using his pace, trickery and balance to get us up the park and into more advanced positions. Not as memorable as an assist or goal but vital in keeping us on the front foot. We've really lacked that this season IMO, particularly with Boyle out.

[Robbo6-2]

This thread must be 80% about Brandon Barker

[MWHIBBIES]

Barker was excellent at taking the ball from deep and using his pace, trickery and balance to get us up the park and into more advanced positions. Not as memorable as an assist or goal but vital in keeping us on the front foot. We've really lacked that this season IMO, particularly with Boyle out.

Thing is he never ran in behind. He insisted on taking it short always. Boyle can do both despite not being quite as good with the ball.

[Nicho87]

Is there an actual chance barker returning or is it all wishful thinking posts?

[Souter96Mac]

Jimmy McNulty tweeted earlier "It's now confirmed". A cryptic tweet about Mark?

[we are hibs]

Jimmy McNulty tweeted earlier "It's now confirmed". A cryptic tweet about Mark?

Lennon getting the Celtic job.

[Souter96Mac]

I thought that Dan Butler for Newport County yesterday looked a decent left back, got forward well.

[hfc rd]

I thought that Dan Butler for Newport County yesterday looked a decent left back, got forward well.


Crazy! I was going to post the exact same! 😉Thought he was Newport’s best player and wouldn’t mind him if we bought him. Then again, he’d only be warming the bench as Stevenson ain’t going to be benched 😁

[Ronniekirk]

Read that yesterday and wasn't sure how it improved our chances? Reading not looking likely to be loaning him out and would probably want a fee. Not sure we could afford the fee and wages

McNulty just knocks back offers from other Clubs and by end of June they will just want some money and him off the wage Bill is the answer But we will have to pay something
It will also depend on who else they move on and money they get for them ie by end of June they may not need a big transfer fee as his wages need freed up to pay another player


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[Heisenberg]

Did we not try quite hard to get McNulty permanently in January? Sure there were rumours of a few decent bids getting knocked back. I’m sure, going by what he’s said, he’ll be satisfied with whatever wage we can offer. All depends on getting an agreement with Reading.

[SHODAN]

Reading: We want £1 million
Hibs: How about 200k
Reading: No

Later...
Reading: OK we need the money now so we'll take 750k
Hibs: How about 250k
Reading: No
Random League One club: Hi we don't really need him but could do with squad depth and 750k is peanuts
Reading: Sold!

Hopefully there's no further interest in him. :wink:

[Billychaotic182]

Jimmy McNulty tweeted earlier "It's now confirmed". A cryptic tweet about Mark?

Marc is on holiday so dont get tio excited. Remember the McNulty's are huge Tim's so more likely his comment is about Lennon

[Tug Wilson]

Our ability to stump up for McNulty may depend on Villa getting promotion.

[Souter96Mac]

Crazy! I was going to post the exact same! 😉Thought he was Newport’s best player and wouldn’t mind him if we bought him. Then again, he’d only be warming the bench as Stevenson ain’t going to be benched 😁

Haha, according to Transfermarkt his contract is up this summer.

[thegaffer12]

I would be delighted with McNulty back. His finishing with Scott Allan's service would mix like rum and coke (or any cocktail of your choice)

[badabing67]

Does anyone know when the squad is due back to start pre-season. I don't expect any movement in the transfer market for us until then. Oh is there any news about the managers post at Middlesbrough

[04Sauzee]

Does anyone know when the squad is due back to start pre-season. I don't expect any movement in the transfer market for us until then. Oh is there any news about the managers post at Middlesbrough

20th June I think, although that's a Thursday

[The_Horde]

I would be delighted with McNulty back. His finishing with Scott Allan's service would mix like rum and coke (or any cocktail of your choice)

Like lamb and tuna fish.

[badabing67]

20th June I think, although that's a Thursday
Cheers

[Leith Green]

I know this is a diversion... But does anyone know what day the spfl season kicks off , just booked a holiday without checking..

[The 90+2]

I know this is a diversion... But does anyone know what day the spfl season kicks off , just booked a holiday without checking..

August 3rd.

[hibee_girl]

I know this is a diversion... But does anyone know what day the spfl season kicks off , just booked a holiday without checking..

3rd August

[Leith Green]

Selfishly looking for a sunday opener then , fly back on the 3rd 😂

[The 90+2]

Selfishly looking for a sunday opener then , fly back on the 3rd 😂

That would probably mean Hearts at the pbs. I’m up for it.

[My_Wife_Camille]

That would probably mean Hearts at the pbs. I’m up for it.
Or Aberdeen, Killie, Celtic or Rangers too

[04Sauzee]

Pretty sure we are due an away game on the opening game. Last 2 openers have been home to Partick and motherwell

[SHODAN]

That would probably mean Hearts at the pbs. I’m up for it.

The first derby was at Tynecastle last season so it's our turn to host it this time.

I'd rather we had them later as the Tynecastle derby will inevitably be the new year one and the gap will be considerable.

[The 90+2]

Or Aberdeen, Killie, Celtic or Rangers too

Celtic will be at home first game as Champions. Either Hearts at home (stand corrected) or Huns at home.

[at last 61]

Celtic will be at home first game as Champions. Either Hearts at home (stand corrected) or Huns at home.

On the broughy thread seen a number plate that looked like broughy about a month ago down near tranent just saying

[Billy Whizz]

On the broughy thread seen a number plate that looked like broughy about a month ago down near tranent just saying

He’s not a free agent

[My_Wife_Camille]

Celtic will be at home first game as Champions. Either Hearts at home (stand corrected) or Huns at home.
The guy said he was hoping for a Sunday opener, he didn’t mention anything about it being a home game.

[04Sauzee]

Not sure if it was a rumor on here that we were interested or a suggestion that he was worth a look but Hiram Boateng has signed for MK Dons.

[Waxy]

I would be delighted with McNulty back. His finishing with Scott Allan's service would mix like rum and coke (or any cocktail of your choice)

Would have McNulty back. Needs to get in some heading practise over the summer.

[The 90+2]

The guy said he was hoping for a Sunday opener, he didn’t mention anything about it being a home game.

Celtic won’t be at home on the Sunday. It will be Saturday lunch time as usual. I was mentioning for us to be playing on the Sunday it will be a TV game against hearts or huns. Hardly going to show us v St Mirren Sunday BT are they? Sky will show Celtic if a big game Saturday BT the Sunday.

[Newcastlehibby]

On the broughy thread seen a number plate that looked like broughy about a month ago down near tranent just saying

His name is Brophy.

[PH91]

His name is Brophy.

I had no idea he was at hibs previously as a youth player. Anyone know why he left?

[The 90+2]

I had no idea he was at hibs previously as a youth player. Anyone know why he left?

Yes, he wasn’t big enough. The same reason Celtic released him.

[My_Wife_Camille]

Celtic won’t be at home on the Sunday. It will be Saturday lunch time as usual. I was mentioning for us to be playing on the Sunday it will be a TV game against hearts or huns. Hardly going to show us v St Mirren Sunday BT are they? Sky will show Celtic if a big game Saturday BT the Sunday.
I think you missed my point a bit, I never mentioned St Mirren at all (although it is quite funny that Sky did show St Mirren v Hibs live on Sunday TV as recently as January there ).

Anyway, I mentioned Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen and Kilmarnock - teams who are all involved in European competition - so if they are still involved by the start of the season then their games will be on the Sunday whether it’s televised or not. Our first two games of this season were Motherwell and St Johnstone and were both on sundays and I’m not sure either were on TV.

Having said that, Champions League qualifiers are on Wednesdays I think so if Celtic haven’t been knocked out yet they’d still be Saturday.

[hibs#1]

Hiram Boateng signed for MK Don's so we can rule him out.

[Iggy Pope]

His name is Brophy.

If the Killie announcer is to be believed (and if I heard him right), he is fully known as Eamonn (‘THE WOLF!!!!!!!) Brophy.
**** knows, me neither.

[SHODAN]

Hiram Boateng signed for MK Don's so we can rule him out.

Nooooooooo!

[Unseen work]

Noticed Lloyd Isgrove has been released from Barnsley.

Heckingbottom took him there and was a huge fan of his, wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if we saw him here.

Think he is struggled of late with injuries, will be desperate for a footballing home and run of games

[04Sauzee]

Noticed Lloyd Isgrove has been released from Barnsley.

Heckingbottom took him there and was a huge fan of his, wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if we saw him here.

Think he is struggled of late with injuries, will be desperate for a footballing home and run of games
Heant played much football in the last 4 years but like you say Heckingbottom will know all about him

[bingo70]

Noticed Lloyd Isgrove has been released from Barnsley.

Heckingbottom took him there and was a huge fan of his, wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if we saw him here.

Think he is struggled of late with injuries, will be desperate for a footballing home and run of games

See from Wikipedia he’s a winger, I’d have my concerns over a winger that’s played such little football in recent years.

Yet here I am hoping we sign Brandon Barker again.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

I notice Kenny Millar of Hibs follows Jack Grimmer and Grimmer's wife on Twitter.
Just saying.

Released from his Coventry contract so he’s available

[IanM]

I notice Kenny Millar of Hibs follows Jack Grimmer and Grimmer's wife on Twitter.
Just saying.

Broad Jack Grimmer of the IR...

[The_Horde]

I notice Kenny Millar of Hibs follows Jack Grimmer and Grimmer's wife on Twitter.
Just saying.

Think he's covered that before. He's old pals with them through a previous role.

[04Sauzee]

Think he's covered that before. He's old pals with them through a previous role.

Wasn't aware of that. Cheees for the update

[oldbutdim]

If the Killie announcer is to be believed (and if I heard him right), he is fully known as Eamonn (‘THE WOLF!!!!!!!) Brophy.
**** knows, me neither.

Had me scratching my head too.
:confused:

[Tynie01011973]

If the Killie announcer is to be believed (and if I heard him right), he is fully known as Eamonn (‘THE WOLF!!!!!!!) Brophy.
**** knows, me neither.

Kilmarnock 'wolf man' Eamonn Brophy tears apart Partick Thistle - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42300057

[Hibbyradge]

Well, I meant this summer

I'm sure you're right. He'll want at least one year with them in the EPL.

[SHODAN]

Do we expect to get any deals over the line in the next couple of weeks?

[Clarence]

Do we expect to get any deals over the line in the next couple of weeks?

I have no information on this but based on previous seasons and a healthy dose of pessimism, my expectation is no. Best just to enjoy the lovely summer weather.

[3pm]

I have no information on this but based on previous seasons and a healthy dose of pessimism, my expectation is no. Best just to enjoy the lovely summer weather.

Like Mallan and Kamberi? Bogdan and MacLaren?

[Clarence]

Like Mallan and Kamberi? Bogdan and MacLaren?

It’s the exception of those signings that prove the rule.

[SHODAN]

Like Mallan and Kamberi? Bogdan and MacLaren?

Kamberi was the only player we signed in June last season, the rest weren't until July at the earliest.

[Hibbyradge]

Do we expect to get any deals over the line in the next couple of weeks?

That's unlikely given that the transfer window doesn't open for another 2 weeks.

[Michael]

That's unlikely given that the transfer window doesn't open for another 2 weeks.

Most of our signings will be for players with contract run out.

[CapitalGreen]

That's unlikely given that the transfer window doesn't open for another 2 weeks.

Transfer window doesn't need to be open to sign players. It's a registration window to register players with the SFA.

[04Sauzee]

That's unlikely given that the transfer window doesn't open for another 2 weeks.

Back training ning on the 20th June. Given that Heckingbottom wants bodies in before then it's going to be a crazy 9 days

[Hibbyradge]

Transfer window doesn't need to be open to sign players. It's a registration window to register players with the SFA.

I get that, but it doesn't help that the window's closed

Clubs need to bring in replacements, contracts are still under consideration, players may not have been formally released etc etc.

[Hibbyradge]

Back training ning on the 20th June. Given that Heckingbottom wants bodies in before then it's going to be a crazy 9 days

Every manager I can remember since windows became a thing have wanted players in early.

It rarely happens.

[SHODAN]

Back training ning on the 20th June. Given that Heckingbottom wants bodies in before then it's going to be a crazy 9 days

Ah yes, the old "bodies in before pre-season" chestnut. I haven't the time to check when pre season had previously started, but the number of new players we've had in before July has been:
2018-19: 1
2017-18: 3
2016-17: 1
2015-16: 4
2014-15: 0
2013-14: 3
2012-13: 2
2011-12: 3
2010-11: 1
2009-10: 0

We already have one in in Allan, so don't expect more than a couple next month at most.

[04Sauzee]

Nathan Ralph has triggered a clause in his contract that will allow him to talk to other clubs. Can't recall if he's any good or not?

[Heisenberg]

Nathan Ralph has triggered a clause in his contract that will allow him to talk to other clubs. Can't recall if he's any good or not?

Best player at Dundee last season. Supposedly had a couple of English clubs after him. Good left back competition for Stevenson if we were to go for him.

[pontius pilate]

A few villa players are set to be released along with Bogdan from Bournemouth who are reportedly interested in signing Mignolet liverpool want £15m for him.

Sorry if already reported

[HoboHarry]

A few villa players are set to be released along with Bogdan from Bournemouth who are reportedly interested in signing Mignolet liverpool want £15m for him.

Sorry if already reported
Do you mean Boruc?

[Greencore]

A few villa players are set to be released along with Bogdan from Bournemouth who are reportedly interested in signing Mignolet liverpool want £15m for him.

Sorry if already reported
Bogdan plays for Liverpool.

[Nevi_SOL]

Nathan Ralph has triggered a clause in his contract that will allow him to talk to other clubs. Can't recall if he's any good or not?

I’ve heard we are 1 of many clubs to be interested in him but from someone I haven’t had info from before

[pontius pilate]

Bogdan plays for Liverpool.

Sorry meant begovic my apologies

[CMurdoch]

Do we expect to get any deals over the line in the next couple of weeks?

Given pre season training starts in a little over 3 weeks we could do with a few in.
At present we only have 14 1st team players signed up including Porteous & Boyle with Allan making it 15 when he arrives.
We have no real deadwood that we are stuck with. Mackie is the only guy in the development squad that you could be considered a 1st team player at this time.

In comparison Hearts already have an amazing 23 1st team players contracted for next season plus Halkett and probably Naismith. They are stuck with loads of average players for at least one more season unless they pay them off. That 23 doesn't even include Hickey andthe other young guys so they won't be able to bring many in.

[The_Horde]

Given pre season training starts in a little over 3 weeks we could do with a few in.
At present we only have 14 1st team players signed up including Porteous & Boyle with Allan making it 15 when he arrives.
We have no real deadwood that we are stuck with. Mackie is the only guy in the development squad that you could be considered a 1st team player at this time.

In comparison Hearts already have an amazing 23 1st team players contracted for next season plus Halkett and probably Naismith. They are stuck with loads of average players for at least one more season unless they pay them off. That 23 doesn't even include Hickey andthe other young guys so they won't be able to bring many in.

We said the same about them last season and they went on to sign about a billion players.

[goosefat]

Most of our signings will be for players with contract run out.

And we’ll still try to sign them on a six month loan

[CMurdoch]

We said the same about them last season and they went on to sign about a billion players.

Other than Connor Sammon, Aaron Hughes, Arnaud Djoum and 2 loan players who are leaving, Hearts are pretty much stuck with the "billion" players including Malaury Martin who they are pretending doesn't exist by omitting him from the 1st team squad on their website. Halkett is a very good signing but they have masses of bottom 6 standard players. Their only chance is if their young guys step up to the plate.

Aberdeen were hurt by the loss of McLean last season and will be further damaged by the loss of Shinnie next season. Young Ferguson is doing well but they are stuck paying lots of money to Stevie May who sadly looks like the bad injury he received at Preston has finished him. Aberdeen are season on season going backwards as their best players move on.

Hibs were always going to suffer this season with the wholesale loss of our quality midfield including the all action McGinn. Next season will be a much better one for us if Heckinbottom can get the right players in to balance the squad. He has little deadwood remaining and lots of space for new players. Fingers crossed for quality rather than quantity and no season long crocks. Before this season started I predicted on here that we would finish 5th and on reflection we were no better than that. Can definitely see us putting up a credible fight for 3rd next season obviously dependent on our recruitment and that of our rivals Aberdeen & Hearts.

P.S. Kilmarnock may have one more good season if they can hold onto their players but after that a combination of father time and the vultures will see their team gone.

Only about 60 sleeps until next season starts. I can't wait.

[MacGruber]

Given pre season training starts in a little over 3 weeks we could do with a few in.
At present we only have 14 1st team players signed up including Porteous & Boyle with Allan making it 15 when he arrives.
We have no real deadwood that we are stuck with. Mackie is the only guy in the development squad that you could be considered a 1st team player at this time.

In comparison Hearts already have an amazing 23 1st team players contracted for next season plus Halkett and probably Naismith. They are stuck with loads of average players for at least one more season unless they pay them off. That 23 doesn't even include Hickey andthe other young guys so they won't be able to bring many in.

What is kind of exciting is there is scope in the numbers and budget to bring a number of players in on top of what we have. In years gone by there would always be squad fillers and deadwood hanging around. The 14/15 that are there are a solid group. Infact you could make a very competitive 11 out of the contracted players

Marciano
Gray
Hanlon
McGregor
Porteous
Stevenson
Horgan
Slivka
Mallan
Allan
Boyle
Kamberi

(I know that's 12 but pick 2 from the 3 CB's)

That's a great starting point. With some good kids coming through in Shaw, F Murray, Mackie.

6 or 7 quality Heckingbottom signings would see me very optimistic.

[CMurdoch]

What is kind of exciting is there is scope in the numbers and budget to bring a number of players in on top of what we have. In years gone by there would always be squad fillers and deadwood hanging around. The 14/15 that are there are a solid group. Infact you could make a very competitive 11 out of the contracted players

Marciano
Gray
Hanlon
McGregor
Porteous
Stevenson
Horgan
Slivka
Mallan
Allan
Boyle
Kamberi

(I know that's 12 but pick 2 from the 3 CB's)

That's a great starting point. With some good kids coming through in Shaw, F Murray, Mackie.

6 or 7 quality Heckingbottom signings would see me very optimistic.

Even 4 additional quality starters would see us in very good shape

[DetroitHibs]

I don't think we are far off being a very good side. Box to box midfielder and Target man would be my priorities.

[MyJo]

We have no real deadwood that we are stuck with. Mackie is the only guy in the development squad that you could be considered a 1st team player

Oil Shaw has played 57 first team games for us over the last two seasons. I think it’s fair to say he is part of the first team squad and just a couple of weeks ago Hecky gave an interview in which he said Murray is a big part of his plans and the team will be built to accommodate his development into a first team role so I think it’s safe to say he is also a first team player in Hecky’s eyes.

[Ronniekirk]

Even 4 additional quality starters would see us in very good shape

You have to look at the players that are injury prone as that cost us this season If any two of Hanlon Gray or McGregor are out for any Length of time together it’s a problem .Porteous should be back fit again but again we don’t know how he will go given his injury situation this Season


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[SquashedFrogg]

And we’ll still try to sign them on a six month loan

Why would we only sign them on a 6 month loan? Would that not be a bit silly?

[goosefat]

Why would we only sign them on a 6 month loan? Would that not be a bit silly?

5 then.

[tonyrougier123]

Hibs are one of a few teams interested in talking to josh mceachran according to a mate who knows him.im in no doubt about my source.👍

[southsider]

Hibs are one of a few teams interested in talking to josh mceachran according to a mate who knows him.im in no doubt about my source.👍

Ex Chelsea & Brentford now free agent ? Midfield playmaker.

[tonyrougier123]

A few teams in england interested as well,had to have a look to see who he is.
Seems the type we have been trying to get in.came through at chelsea not really kicked on from initial promise.
Never seen him play myself.26yrs old just released from brentford.
Mate says he plays the holding role.

[Torto7]

A few teams in england interested as well,had to have a look to see who he is.
Seems the type we have been trying to get in.came through at chelsea not really kicked on from initial promise.
Never seen him play myself.26yrs old just released from brentford.
Mate says he plays the holding role.

He's a bit like Jack Wilshere style wise. I'd love to have him as he's a natural footballer, it's hard to get those London based guys to move though.

[GloryGlory]

A few teams in england interested as well,had to have a look to see who he is.
Seems the type we have been trying to get in.came through at chelsea not really kicked on from initial promise.
Never seen him play myself.26yrs old just released from brentford.
Mate says he plays the holding role.

Is that the Jack or the Bartley role? :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

He's a bit like Jack Wilshere style wise. I'd love to have him as he's a natural footballer, it's hard to get those London based guys to move though.

Very highly rated when at Chelsea, think he was at Boro, not sure how much he has been a regular starter wherever he has gone, not sure if down to injury or form.

[Lee Marvin]

A few teams in england interested as well,had to have a look to see who he is.
Seems the type we have been trying to get in.came through at chelsea not really kicked on from initial promise.
Never seen him play myself.26yrs old just released from brentford.
Mate says he plays the holding role.

Seems like Dylan mcgeouch with a far better pedigree. On paper would be an excellent signing

[Torto7]

Very highly rated when at Chelsea, think he was at Boro, not sure how much he has been a regular starter wherever he has gone, not sure if down to injury or form.

Mainly injuries since he's been at Brentford. Although he's been fit for most of this season and started as first choice(28 games) and was in really good form.

He was replaced by a more defensive minded player when Smith left to manage Villa. The new Brentford manager doesn't seem to fancy him at all.

He's at a good age too 26. It would be a risky signing in one sense but it could also be a fantastic signing if he holds up fitness wise.

[AugustaHibs]

Josh mceachran would be an incredible signing.

[Iain G]

He's a bit like Jack Wilshere style wise. I'd love to have him as he's a natural footballer, it's hard to get those London based guys to move though.

But less p*sh and injury prone I hope? :greengrin

[Torto7]

But less p*sh and injury prone I hope? :greengrin

An arthritic 90 year old is less injury prone than wee Jack tbf.

[oneone73]

An arthritic 90 year old is less injury prone than wee Jack tbf.

Leave Steven Naismith out of this.

[Torto7]

Leave Steven Naismith out of this.

:greengrin

[Stevie Reid]

NHC but I see that Andy Carroll has been released by West Ham - insane to think that he cost £10M more than Liverpool paid for Suarez that transfer window in January 2011.

Since then (club football only):

Carroll

132 starts
45 goals

Suarez

363 starts
259 goals

[eastmainsmsh]

David Nugent anyone lol

[eastterrace]

David Nugent anyone lolany chance we can go for someone a bit younger, let’s leave these pensioners down south.

[Stevie Reid]

David Nugent anyone lol

Surprised to learn that he's only just turned 34. Was signed by Derby for £2.5M just in January 2017, and scored 17 goals in 51 league starts (lots of sub appearances). Will probably get good offers from down south.

[Juice-Terry]

Sorry if this has been posted/discussed already. From Hibspage on Facebook. I hope it's not fake.

22087

[SHODAN]

Sorry if this has been posted/discussed already. From Hibspage on Facebook. I hope it's not fake.

22087

It's real.

[BlackSheep]

It's real.

Aye, you're right, just checked this... His dad could be on the wind up tho....?

[04Sauzee]

Sorry if this has been posted/discussed already. From Hibspage on Facebook. I hope it's not fake.

22087

Think Jimmy is just saying thanks regarding it being a shame it never worked out at Reading

[The_Horde]

any chance we can go for someone a bit younger, let’s leave these pensioners down south.

Would you take Dobbie?..

[JimBHibees]

Think Jimmy is just saying thanks regarding it being a shame it never worked out at Reading

Does mention future at Hibs though?

[04Sauzee]

Does mention future at Hibs though?

It does, just my interpretation that his thanks was aimed at the not working out at Reading. Who knows with Jimmy though 😂

[The Leith Dutch]

You have to look at the players that are injury prone as that cost us this season If any two of Hanlon Gray or McGregor are out for any Length of time together it’s a problem .Porteous should be back fit again but again we don’t know how he will go given his injury situation this Season


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Was reading it as starters. From that perspective I think it's fair enough - four starters signed would be ace.

We do need cover but I guess the trick is that we need good, cheap and prepared not to be first choice (unless we're dropping one of the current defense down the pecking order). Like you say it's tough..... If Porteous, McGregor and Hanlon all stay fit we've got a good Central defence but equally you could have all three injured and we're ****ed.

[CraigHibee]

Aye, you're right, just checked this... His dad could be on the wind up tho....?

If he had signed i doubt his dad would confirm it on twitter, would rather let the club announce it. I'd imagine with the extra cash we are getting with mcginn that it will help our case

[CMurdoch]

Oil Shaw has played 57 first team games for us over the last two seasons. I think it’s fair to say he is part of the first team squad and just a couple of weeks ago Hecky gave an interview in which he said Murray is a big part of his plans and the team will be built to accommodate his development into a first team role so I think it’s safe to say he is also a first team player in Hecky’s eyes.

Both Shaw and Murray are 1st team members on the official website so i don't consider them development players.

[CMurdoch]

You have to look at the players that are injury prone as that cost us this season If any two of Hanlon Gray or McGregor are out for any Length of time together it’s a problem .Porteous should be back fit again but again we don’t know how he will go given his injury situation this Season


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Porteous is the one i am worried about.
All that popping the knee back into place and playing on crap was madness.
Fingers well and truly crossed.

[Wilson]

Fingers well and truly crossed.

Madness also.

[Eyrie]

Both Shaw and Murray are 1st team members on the official website so i don't consider them development players.

Interesting given how little Murray has played for the first team. Conversely, Mackie isn't included (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/team/first) which surprises me.

[Radium]

Porteous is the one i am worried about.
All that popping the knee back into place and playing on crap was madness.
Fingers well and truly crossed.

At the sponsors night he described it as a cartilage tear. Dissolvable stitches and a managed return


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[Stevie Reid]

Interesting given how little Murray has played for the first team. Conversely, Mackie isn't included (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/team/first) which surprises me.

Surprised about Mackie too l, but I think Murray has played more for us.

[The Leith Dutch]

Surprised about Mackie too l, but I think Murray has played more for us.

I suspect it's positional based.
Mackie was a crucial back up at left back last season.
Fraser Murray is a good option in centre mid where we had decent cover.

[Eyrie]

I suspect it's positional based.
Mackie was a crucial back up at left back last season.
Fraser Murray is a good option in centre mid where we had decent cover.

Which makes Mackie's omission all the more strange.

[CMurdoch]

Interesting given how little Murray has played for the first team. Conversely, Mackie isn't included (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/team/first) which surprises me.

Murray would have played a lot this season but was injured.
As regards Mackie, his name is likely to be moved into the first team squad for next season.
I don't think any more of the young guys are close to being added at this time although posters like Billy Whizz could make a more educated guess.

[PH91]

What is kind of exciting is there is scope in the numbers and budget to bring a number of players in on top of what we have. In years gone by there would always be squad fillers and deadwood hanging around. The 14/15 that are there are a solid group. Infact you could make a very competitive 11 out of the contracted players

Marciano
Gray
Hanlon
McGregor
Porteous
Stevenson
Horgan
Slivka
Mallan
Allan
Boyle
Kamberi

(I know that's 12 but pick 2 from the 3 CB's)

That's a great starting point. With some good kids coming through in Shaw, F Murray, Mackie.

6 or 7 quality Heckingbottom signings would see me very optimistic.

Agree, there is a good core of players there and with the right additions there is the possibility of a very good squad. I hope that a good few of those additions are permanent deals though. Imo loan deals are quite short term-ist and result in having to do a fair bit of re-building every summer. Id rather the loan market was used to get in only a handful of players who maybe add a bit of quality that we couldnt otherwise afford to supplement the rest, keeping the main core of the team consistent over a number of years, similar to aberdeen and, to an extent, killie have done recently.

With a new manager coming in, a few older and fringe players moving on and a bit of cash in the tail from mcginn this seems to me to be a summer where, if recruitment get it right, we could set ourselves up to be a team challenging for europe consistently over the next few years. I am excited to see if Heck can pull it off.

[Greenworld]

Agree, there is a good core of players there and with the right additions there is the possibility of a very good squad. I hope that a good few of those additions are permanent deals though. Imo loan deals are quite short term-ist and result in having to do a fair bit of re-building every summer. Id rather the loan market was used to get in only a handful of players who maybe add a bit of quality that we couldnt otherwise afford to supplement the rest, keeping the main core of the team consistent over a number of years, similar to aberdeen and, to an extent, killie have done recently.

With a new manager coming in, a few older and fringe players moving on and a bit of cash in the tail from mcginn this seems to me to be a summer where, if recruitment get it right, we could set ourselves up to be a team challenging for europe consistently over the next few years. I am excited to see if Heck can pull it off.You might want review your last sentence [emoji23][emoji23]

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[SHODAN]

I think the most obvious answer to the big "Mackie not in first team on club website" conspiracy is that Hibs don't really update that part of the website all that much, or forget players sometimes.

He'll be in the first team next season, probably as our backup LB.

[PH91]

You might want review your last sentence [emoji23][emoji23]

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Haha. Nope. I am excited!

[Since452]

I'd like us to nip in ahead of Hearts for Naismith. Single handedly dragged them to 6th this seaon. Would do a job with better players around him here.

[Stuart93]

I'd like us to nip in ahead of Hearts for Naismith. Single handedly dragged them to 6th this seaon. Would do a job with better players around him here.

🤢 🤢 🤢

[Michael]

I'd like us to nip in ahead of Hearts for Naismith. Single handedly dragged them to 6th this seaon. Would do a job with better players around him here.

We need players who can get on the park.

[Since452]

We need players who can get on the park.

Really good player when he is

[HoboHarry]

Agree, there is a good core of players there and with the right additions there is the possibility of a very good squad. I hope that a good few of those additions are permanent deals though. Imo loan deals are quite short term-ist and result in having to do a fair bit of re-building every summer. Id rather the loan market was used to get in only a handful of players who maybe add a bit of quality that we couldnt otherwise afford to supplement the rest, keeping the main core of the team consistent over a number of years, similar to aberdeen and, to an extent, killie have done recently.

With a new manager coming in, a few older and fringe players moving on and a bit of cash in the tail from mcginn this seems to me to be a summer where, if recruitment get it right, we could set ourselves up to be a team challenging for europe consistently over the next few years. I am excited to see if Heck can pull it off.
I'm sure a lot of us used to pull the heck off of it but personally I'm too old for that nonsense now. Seems like a game of golf is more fun nowadays.....

[J-C]

Talk on Twitter that Sunderland may be after Kamberi again, thoughts?

[SHODAN]

Talk on Twitter that Sunderland may be after Kamberi again, thoughts?

Much?

[Brightside]

Talk on Twitter that Sunderland may be after Kamberi again, thoughts?

That came from here.

[GloryGlory]

That came from here.

Swapsies with McGeouch?