Summer 2019 transfer thread

[Billy Whizz]

Some Aberdeen fans seem to think they’re also after Ojo, don’t know if that’s just guesswork though.

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/funso-ojo-transfer-request-hibs-3032623

[Unseen work]

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/funso-ojo-transfer-request-hibs-3032623

Interesting one.

i really hope we don’t miss out on him and he goes to Aberdeen.

Surely with only a year left on his contract, handing in a transfer request and refusing to train the fee wouldn’t be large?

Hope we are still in for him and get a deal done.

[Stuart93]

Some Aberdeen fans seem to think they’re also after Ojo, don’t know if that’s just guesswork though.

IF they can afford him so can we, with our bit extra investment

[Hibeewilly]

Interesting one.

i really hope we don’t miss out on him and he goes to Aberdeen.

Surely with only a year left on his contract, handing in a transfer request and refusing to train the fee wouldn’t be large?

Hope we are still in for him and get a deal done.
Player power will win the day as we have seen as a club before. I'm convinced he will be a Hibs player.

[Hibeewilly]

Player power will win the day as we have seen as a club before. I'm convinced he will be a Hibs player.
FWIW I think McGeouch will be too despite what has been said

[Unseen work]

Player power will win the day as we have seen as a club before. I'm convinced he will be a Hibs player.

Yeah players seem to hold all the power now a days. Are you itk at all or just a hunch?

[SMAXXA]

I don’t believe we will get either to be honest

[Speedway]

I don’t believe we will get either to be honest

I think we’ll either get both or neither or 1 of them.

[Callum_62]

I think we’ll either get both or neither or 1 of them.I'm not so sure myself

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[Crab apple]

I disagree...I think Halkett and Walker (much as I hate to say it) are very good signings as is Naismith IF hes fit which is a big if. Currently they look better than past season imho but we shall see

Washington I'm a bit more meh about

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I agree about Halkett. Not sure about Walker. How effective Naismith is will depend on how fit he is. Overall they may have a stronger squad than they did last year but at the end of the day they’ll still have loser Levein in charge.

[Hibeewilly]

Yeah players seem to hold all the power now a days. Are you itk at all or just a hunch?
Just a hunch UW

[BILLYHIBS]

Yes, blatantly making stuff up. The back four refusing to pass to him line is made up, completely. Bell played 1 game and came on in another? I'm sure they were more confortable with him indeed :faf:

He was really good for 2 years, brilliant for the end of the 3rd.

Dearie me!

I think it is you who are making things up

I did not say they refused to pass the ball back to Rocky

They were uncomfortable with a goalkeeper who is not a natural footballer

I remember Neil Lennon holding his head in his hands as he repeatedly kicked the ball out of play or to an opponent under no pressure in his own box in the play off

Not surprised Lenny had a meltdown 😁

He was out with a hand injury for a few months at the start of last season Bogdan came in did well after a shaky start kept the gloves until he too got injured and Rocky came in and was totally brilliant

Bogdan was more comfortable with the ball at his feet

TBF his distribution improved under Hecky but as others have pointed out was at fault with a rushed clearance versus Hearts 1-1 and a lost goal versus Aberdeen 1-2

It is part and parcel of the modern game that for a goalkeeper to be successful he has to be comfortable with a ball at his feet

[Unseen work]

Halkett certainly seemed good start of the season but then form seemed to tail away second half much like the rest of the team.

The theee of them are undoubtedly good signings and will improve them, but they were garbage last season so will need more than that.

Is Halkett better than any hibs defender? I would doubt it.

[Billy Whizz]

Halkett certainly seemed good start of the season but then form seemed to tail away second half much like the rest of the team.

The theee of them are undoubtedly good signings and will improve them, but they were garbage last season so will need more than that.

Is Halkett better than any hibs defender? I would doubt it.

Wonder who Halkett will play instead of. Is he a right or left footers

[Viva_Palmeiras]

I disagree...I think Halkett and Walker (much as I hate to say it) are very good signings as is Naismith IF hes fit which is a big if. Currently they look better than past season imho but we shall see

Washington I'm a bit more meh about

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Well that’ll be Walker back with his tail firmly between his legs.
According to one of his relatives the problem (resulting in his departure) was Levein - wonder what changed....

[Callum_62]

Wonder who Halkett will play instead of. Is he a right or left footersSouter will be away

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[GibbytheHibby2]

Souter will be away

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Boozing at the nappy and tellin' his queerest tales no doubt.

[GreenLake]

Well that’ll be Walker back with his tail firmly between his legs.
According to one of his relatives the problem (resulting in his departure) was Levein - wonder what changed....

Levein promised he would only have to try and control 140' punts up to him instead of the usual 200'+.

[J-C]

https://www.snsgroup.co.uk/28-06-19-hibernian-media-access

Think that’s him training.


Great to see Kamberi and Boyle having a right good laugh together, we need a happy squad again, plenty smiles on faces.

[tonyrougier123]

Guy from pmpr just tweeted one hour ago pen and paper emoji,working at easter road???not many players on ther books.

[J-C]

I think we’ll either get both or neither or 1 of them.


Haha spreading your bets there Speedy

[Unseen work]

Guy from pmpr just tweeted one hour ago pen and paper emoji,working at easter road???not many players on ther books.

Naismith? :wink:

Liam Burt who I’ve mentioned before, released from rangers in the summer.

Lional Ainsworth? Getting on a bit though.

Or Whittikar leaving?

[Borderhibbie76]

Dearie me!

I think it is you who are making things up

I did not say they refused to pass the ball back to Rocky

They were uncomfortable with a goalkeeper who is not a natural footballer

I remember Neil Lennon holding his head in his hands as he repeatedly kicked the ball out of play or to an opponent under no pressure in his own box in the play off

Not surprised Lenny had a meltdown [emoji16]

He was out with a hand injury for a few months at the start of last season Bogdan came in did well after a shaky start kept the gloves until he too got injured and Rocky came in and was totally brilliant

Bogdan was more comfortable with the ball at his feet

TBF his distribution improved under Hecky but as others have pointed out was at fault with a rushed clearance versus Hearts 1-1 and a lost goal versus Aberdeen 1-2

It is part and parcel of the modern game that for a goalkeeper to be successful he has to be comfortable with a ball at his feetCan we take this argument elsewhere please?? This is the summer transfer thread...not a thread about your opinions on Rocky...cheers

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[bingo70]

Naismith? :wink:

Liam Burt who I’ve mentioned before, released from rangers in the summer.

Lional Ainsworth? Getting on a bit though.

Or Whittikar leaving?

If it was someone leaving I doubt he’d use that signing a contract emoji thing.

I would have thought the work for a new signing would have been negotiated at East Mains.

Wonder if it was at Easter Road as the press were at East mains for the media day.

[tonyrougier123]

Naismith? :wink:

Liam Burt who I’ve mentioned before, released from rangers in the summer.

Lional Ainsworth? Getting on a bit though.

Or Whittikar leaving?

I was thinking ainsworth decent at well,knows the league.

[brog]

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/funso-ojo-transfer-request-hibs-3032623

This new non leaking Hibs FC is really impressive. Looks like we've been in contact with Scunny and/or Ojo for weeks but nothing came out until deal was called off. Similarly our other signings only crept on to the radar just before announcements. Really good but stops a lot of the fun, Petrie!

[Billy Whizz]

This new non leaking Hibs FC is really impressive. Looks like we've been in contact with Scunny and/or Ojo for weeks but nothing came out until deal was called off. Similarly our other signings only crept on to the radar just before announcements. Really good but stops a lot of the fun, Petrie!

Looks like we thought we’d get him on a free, S****horpe think otherwise
Great that we are keeping things quiet though!
Not convinced this one is dead, player wants to leave
Wonder if Omeonga, has given him a great review of hibs?

[J-C]

Looks like we thought we’d get him on a free, S****horpe think otherwise
Great that we are keeping things quiet though!
Not convinced this one is dead, player wants to leave
Wonder if Omeonga, has given him a great review of hibs?

It looks like there was a relegation clause in his contract but he's been too late to trigger it, so Scu nthorpe have said, sorry mate you still belong to us.

[AugustaHibs]

Naismith? :wink:

Liam Burt who I’ve mentioned before, released from rangers in the summer.

Lional Ainsworth? Getting on a bit though.

Or Whittikar leaving?

What’s pmpr? And who’s the guy

[hfc rd]

Looks like we thought we’d get him on a free, S****horpe think otherwise
Great that we are keeping things quiet though!
Not convinced this one is dead, player wants to leave
Wonder if Omeonga, has given him a great review of hibs?


Heckingbottom himself mentioned that the Ojo deal is not happening when he was asked about it earlier today.

[bingo70]

What’s pmpr? And who’s the guy

He’s an agent and PMPR are the firm he works for.

[AugustaHibs]

He’s an agent and PMPR are the firm he works for.

Do you know the guys twitter handle?

[tonyrougier123]

What’s pmpr? And who’s the guy

Its a players agency.been working on contract at easter road,could be signing news on the way.guy called adrian brennan is ther agent.hes on twitter.

[bingo70]

Do you know the guys twitter handle?

@adrianjbrennan

Been trying to post a link to the tweet but having a ‘mare, hopefully you can find it from that.

[HibbyKeith]

https://twitter.com/adrianjbrennan

[bingo70]

https://twitter.com/adrianjbrennan

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pmpr-excellence/beraterfirma/berater/3532

Doesn’t represent many players so the young guy Burt would be the most likely option I’d have thought.

[tonyrougier123]

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pmpr-excellence/beraterfirma/berater/3532

Doesn’t represent many players so the young guy Burt would be the most likely option I’d have thought.
They could just be signing a player from hibs on to ther portfolio.they already have whitty and mackie.

[HibbyKeith]

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pmpr-excellence/beraterfirma/berater/3532

Doesn’t represent many players so the young guy Burt would be the most likely option I’d have thought.

He's an attacking midfielder going by that link, There's always room for good players in the squad and its a long season but we're crying out for a strong defensive midfielder. With both bartley and milligan gone we've not really strengthened that area yet.

Like others have said previously (easy to look good on a youtube video I know) but the guy Daniel Gravenberch looks the ideal style of player I'd like to see us bring in.

[LancsHibs]

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pmpr-excellence/beraterfirma/berater/3532

Doesn’t represent many players so the young guy Burt would be the most likely option I’d have thought.

He represented our old friend Rudi Skacel

[bingo70]

He's an attacking midfielder going by that link, There's always room for good players in the squad and its a long season but we're crying out for a strong defensive midfielder. With both bartley and milligan gone we've not really strengthened that area yet.

Like others have said previously (easy to look good on a youtube video I know) but the guy Daniel Gravenberch looks the ideal style of player I'd like to see us bring in.

I think young players trying to break into first team football are the ones who should be beefing up our squad. Hungry players who aren’t expecting to play 35-40 games a season.

[Callum_62]

He's an attacking midfielder going by that link, There's always room for good players in the squad and its a long season but we're crying out for a strong defensive midfielder. With both bartley and milligan gone we've not really strengthened that area yet.

Like others have said previously (easy to look good on a youtube video I know) but the guy Daniel Gravenberch looks the ideal style of player I'd like to see us bring in.
Hecky said we are after a midfielder that can make us play out from defence

Basically Ojo or Mcgeough type of player

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[Unseen work]

Is there even any truth in the Gravenberch rumour? Find it odd he went to LinkedIn to advertise himself.....

[04Sauzee]

Is there even any truth in the Gravenberch rumour? Find it odd he went to LinkedIn to advertise himself.....

I'm thinking there isn't anything in this. The rumour on here was that he was signing after his holiday. Think he'd have signed by now

[CapitalGreen]

Heckingbottom himself mentioned that the Ojo deal is not happening when he was asked about it earlier today.

He did but do you think if Ojo negotiates his release from S****horpe in the next few days that Hibs won’t be back in for him considering we already agreed terms on a multi-year deal just recently?

[CapitalGreen]

He's an attacking midfielder going by that link, There's always room for good players in the squad and its a long season but we're crying out for a strong defensive midfielder. With both bartley and milligan gone we've not really strengthened that area yet.

Like others have said previously (easy to look good on a youtube video I know) but the guy Daniel Gravenberch looks the ideal style of player I'd like to see us bring in.

The recruitment team have the availability to work on a number of different signings simultaneously, just because we may be in the process of signing another attacking midfielder does not prevent us from working on recruiting a defensive one too. The Ojo story suggests we have been doing just that.

[Mikey]

If anyone's going to be paying S****horpe a fee it should be his agent for forgetting to activate the clause. He's supposed to be looking after him.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Hecky said we are after a midfielder that can make us play out from defence

Basically Ojo or Mcgeough type of player

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And, crucially, a midfielder who responds well when we lose the ball.

[hibeejeebies]

Sorry, but can't help but chuckle every time I see "S****horpe".

[Tobias Funke]

The thing I find odd with the Ojo deal is why it’s all come out in the open now. It was all set to be done and dusted late May/early June and it only become public knowledge last day or so, pretty much a month later.

Got a feeling this one isn't dead, regardless of what PH says or Sc unthorpe say.

[CapitalGreen]

The thing I find odd with the Ojo deal is why it’s all come out in the open now. It was all set to be done and dusted late May/early June and it only become public knowledge last day or so, pretty much a month later.

Got a feeling this one isn't dead, regardless of what PH says or Sc unthorpe say.

Sc.unthorpe only returned to pre-season this week so local press asked why Ojo wasn’t present. Club initially said he was injured but then truth came out, probably from his agent.

[Wakeyhibee]

Sorry, but can't help but chuckle every time I see "S****horpe".

Old 90s chant from Burnley I recall "1 **** in S****horpe, there's only 1 **** in S****horpe "

[Unseen work]

The thing I find odd with the Ojo deal is why it’s all come out in the open now. It was all set to be done and dusted late May/early June and it only become public knowledge last day or so, pretty much a month later.

Got a feeling this one isn't dead, regardless of what PH says or Sc unthorpe say.

Wonder if the agent is doing it to alert other teams as he knows he is no longer going to hibs?

[madhatter]

If the Ojo deal was supposed to be wrapped up late May/early June I’m surprised we haven’t moved on to other targets and got them wrapped up by now. Sort of suggests we’ve been waiting to see if it could get sorted out. Any rumours regarding defensive mid beyond Ojo?

I think last 3 signings will be upfront/player who can also play on the wing, defensive mid and goalkeeper then it will be done.

[inglisavhibs]

Souter will be away

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I really doubt that. His contract was running down and any club wanting him could have had him for nothing. Nobody came in and he signed a new contract. May be wrong but i think he will be at Hearts next season and the next........

[mjhibby]

I disagree...I think Halkett and Walker (much as I hate to say it) are very good signings as is Naismith IF hes fit which is a big if. Currently they look better than past season imho but we shall see

Washington I'm a bit more meh about

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Funny how some on here are bigging up Hertz signings yet being lukewarm about ours. Halkett is a good signing but who is he going to replace. Surely Berra and souttar will be first choice assuming souttar is still there So no improvement there. Walker looked average in his last few months at Hertz so why is he suddenly as a great signing. Washington looks to be a decent signing but as a few have said he's got to work with loser levein. I don't think the signings will make a huge difference as they totally rely on Naismith. The odds of him going through the season without a breakdown must be huge. With Allan back and porteous and Boyle like new players the signings so far to my mind anyway put us a good bit better positioned than those down Georgie way. Imho.

[Borderhibbie76]

Funny how some on here are bigging up Hertz signings yet being lukewarm about outs. Halkett is a good signi g but who is he going to replace. Surely Betta and souttar Willbe first choice assuming souttar is still there Sono improvement there. Walker looked average in his last few months at Hertz so why is he suddenly as a great signing. Washington looks to be adecent signing but as a few have said he's got to work with loser levein. I don't think the signings will make a huge difference as they totally rely on Naismith. The odds of him going through the season without a breakdown must be huge. With Allan back and porteous and Boyle like new players the signings so far to my mind anyway put us a good bit better positioned than those down Georgie way.I've been bigging up our transfer activity...but there is no point denying they have done some decent business too...otherwise it's just head in the sand stuff. They've signed 2 proven SPL standard players who will improve them...nowt wrong with admitting it

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[PatHead]

I've been bigging up our transfer activity...but there is no point denying they have done some decent business too...otherwise it's just head in the sand stuff. They've signed 2 proven SPL standard players who will improve them...nowt wrong with admitting it

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How will Halkett improve them?

[Callum_62]

How will Halkett improve them?He's better than other players they have in that position

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[MagicSwirlingShip]

How will Halkett improve them?

Can see them moving to three at the back.

[J-C]

Hecky said Ojo deal is out of his hands and until the player and Scu nthorpe negotiate a release, we will look elsewhere but that doesn't mean we may not go back if he manages to get his release. We can't talk to a player who's still under contract.

[bingo70]

How will Halkett improve them?

At the risk of defending them but I think Berra is showing signs of being passed it.

He’s easily replaced imo

[Borderhibbie76]

How will Halkett improve them?Hes younger and better than Berra...simple really. Not sure why folk are getting aggro...I detest Hertz as much as anybody but no point trying to convince yourself they havent made a couple of half decent signings ...as have we.

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[PatHead]

He's better than other players they have in that position

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Nope. Of their 3 best players, 2 are their centre backs.

Unless, as someone has suggested, they go 3 at the back I can't see any improvement.

Bed wetting over nothing.

[Callum_62]

Nope. Of their 3 best players, 2 are their centre backs.

Unless, as someone has suggested, they go 3 at the back I can't see any improvement.

Bed wetting over nothing.Who's there 3rd centre back?

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[Borderhibbie76]

Nope. Of their 3 best players, 2 are their centre backs.

Unless, as someone has suggested, they go 3 at the back I can't see any improvement.

Bed wetting over nothing.Nobody is bed wetting...grow up mate! It's not bed wetting to say they have made a couple of half decent signings...Berra is hopeless and Halkett is a deffo upgrade on an ageing and slowing Berra

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[PatHead]

Who's there 3rd centre back?

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Souttar, Berra and Halkett.

[Callum_62]

Souttar, Berra and Halkett.Who was there 3rd centre back?

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[Speedway]

Who was there 3rd centre back?

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Was it Hughes or was he a full back?

[Callum_62]

Was it Hughes or was he a full back?Yeah I think hughes


Safe to say Halkett is a big improvement over him and arguably Berra

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[PatHead]

Nobody is bed wetting...grow up mate! It's not bed wetting to say they have made a couple of half decent signings...Berra is hopeless and Halkett is a deffo upgrade on an ageing and slowing Berra

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Tons of bedwetting from the same posters who couldn't wait to stick the boot into us last season for holding out for the players we wanted and not signing a complete new team by the end of June.
This year our targets have come early so you have to big up Hearts signings.
Halkett seems a decent player but it was not a position that particularly needed strengthening. Washington again seems okay, no more than that, but you would think he was Messi the way folk are going on. He has potential, nothing more than that.
Some 'fans' just hate being positive about Hibs and can't see anything bad about the other team in Edinburgh. Let's be clear here. They were absolutely **** for 2/3rds of last season. They need much more than 2 players to sort that.

[bingo70]

Who was there 3rd centre back?

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They had a big guy from Ivory Coast maybe?

Think they signed him from Cambridge or Barnet?

I’m sure I’ve got none of the above right but I know who I mean, even if nobody else does.

[Callum_62]

They had a big guy from Ivory Coast maybe?

Think they signed him from Cambridge or Barnet?

I’m sure I’ve got none of the above right but I know who I mean, even if nobody else does.Big dikamona or summin - well remembered!

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[Borderhibbie76]

Tons of bedwetting from the same posters who couldn't wait to stick the boot into us last season for holding out for the players we wanted and not signing a complete new team by the end of June.
This year our targets have come early so you have to big up Hearts signings.
Halkett seems a decent player but it was not a position that particularly needed strengthening. Washington again seems okay, no more than that, but you would think he was Messi the way folk are going on. He has potential, nothing more than that.
Some 'fans' just hate being positive about Hibs and can't see anything bad about the other team in Edinburgh. Let's be clear here. They were absolutely **** for 2/3rds of last season. They need much more than 2 players to sort that.I've been very complimentary about our business so far and cant wait for the new season to start and to see our new players in action.

I was critical last summer and was right to be...the window was disorganised and we had a poorly balanced squad as was borne out with our results and performances from Oct to Jan.

Not really sure what your point is other than getting annoyed coz a few people have said Herts have made a few decent signings...u seem to be getting all worked up for no reason.

Nobody is bed wetting or bigging Herts up...calm down

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[Callum_62]

Tons of bedwetting from the same posters who couldn't wait to stick the boot into us last season for holding out for the players we wanted and not signing a complete new team by the end of June.
This year our targets have come early so you have to big up Hearts signings.
Halkett seems a decent player but it was not a position that particularly needed strengthening. Washington again seems okay, no more than that, but you would think he was Messi the way folk are going on. He has potential, nothing more than that.
Some 'fans' just hate being positive about Hibs and can't see anything bad about the other team in Edinburgh. Let's be clear here. They were absolutely **** for 2/3rds of last season. They need much more than 2 players to sort that.They just signed a guy that played 15 times for the team that got promoted out of the English Championship

To suggest that doesn't look like a good signing or to not acknowledge it could be is just folly

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[CapitalGreen]

They just signed a guy that played 15 times for the team that got promoted out of the English Championship

To suggest that doesn't look like a good signing or to not acknowledge it could be is just folly

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15 appearances, that sounds not bad actually but in reality he was only on the pitch for 295 minutes, the equivalent of just over 3 games out of 46 (4140 mins)

[PatHead]

I've been very complimentary about our business so far and cant wait for the new season to start and to see our new players in action.

I was critical last summer and was right to be...the window was disorganised and we had a poorly balanced squad as was borne out with our results and performances from Oct to Jan.

Not really sure what your point is other than getting annoyed coz a few people have said Herts have made a few decent signings...u seem to be getting all worked up for no reason.

Nobody is bed wetting or bigging Herts up...calm down

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Not worked up at all. Hearts have been in our shadow for the last couple of years and will continue to be as long as they have that dinosaur in charge.

[Borderhibbie76]

Not worked up at all. Hearts have been in our shadow for the last couple of years and will continue to be as long as they have that dinosaur in charge.I agree...I think we will have improved significantly on last season and will benefit from getting our signings in early for a pre season together.

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[Unseen work]

Berra still has plenty to offer and is a good player.

Soutrar however, Iv never been convinced or or seen the big deal, think he relies heavily on Berra

[mjhibby]

I agree...I think we will have improved significantly on last season and will benefit from getting our signings in early for a pre season together.

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Without labouring the point again we have got boyle,Allan and porteous from the team that went on that unbeaten run plus the signings Hecky as made which at least two of them look cracking long term signings and are actively working on at least three other deals. So how does Hertz signing three players mean they are remotely in as good shape as us us not even considering the respective managers and how the compared when Hecky came in. No green tinted specs needed to see we are stronger. You can't come to any other conclusion. The proof is in results though so we shall see. Also the constant run of Injuries will take their toll on Naismith which may account for why he's not signed yet. If we relied on someone like Naismith we would be worried.

[mjhibby]

Berra still has plenty to offer and is a good player.

Soutrar however, Iv never been convinced or or seen the big deal, think he relies heavily on Berra

Fwiw I still think he's their best defender and either souttar will be away or halkett with be RB until he goes. It's not until Berra isn't there they will realise how much they rely on him. And that's from my mate whose a lifelong Jambo who thinks them not getting a new keeper is a disaster waiting to happen. Halkett had a cracking keeper behind him which he won't have with hertz. He's a good signing but won't improve them

[Nicho87]

Hecky was asked directly would you be looking to bring Dylan back. Or worlds to that effect.

no. Was the answer

i couldn’t help but feel this is a porkie.

[Unseen work]

With Ojo, could the case be that hibs and the agent are denying we are interested to stop S****horpe wanting a fee and then agreeing to release him?


Does anyone have any info regarding this and if we’re still pursing it?

Hopeful thinking I know but would love to see this lad sign. Seems perfect for us, our main player for the position and very highly thought of in England.

[SMAXXA]

With Ojo, could the case be that hibs and the agent are denying we are interested to stop S****horpe wanting a fee and then agreeing to release him?


Does anyone have any info regarding this and if we’re still pursing it?

Hopeful thinking I know but would love to see this lad sign. Seems perfect for us, our main player for the position and very highly thought of in England.

Think that’s wishful thinking they are other interest he said so that doesn’t fit that theory, why would they release him if he’s contractually their player still? Sounds like his agent made an arse of not instigating the get out clause the way I see it. We will be on other targets now I do believe this is dead fwiw

[J-C]

With Ojo, could the case be that hibs and the agent are denying we are interested to stop S****horpe wanting a fee and then agreeing to release him?


Does anyone have any info regarding this and if we’re still pursing it?

Hopeful thinking I know but would love to see this lad sign. Seems perfect for us, our main player for the position and very highly thought of in England.

The player and his agent made an arse of things. They had a relegation release clause which they didn't trigger in the allotted time, so he's still under contract and as such we cannot talk to him further.

[Hibee Mac]

What a mess re Ojo. To think he could have been a great player for us but instead his career might take a totally different path not because of something as trivial as this.

He's obviously our first choice and now we've missed out on him due to something completely out of our hands, shame.

[brog]

I've been very complimentary about our business so far and cant wait for the new season to start and to see our new players in action.

I was critical last summer and was right to be...the window was disorganised and we had a poorly balanced squad as was borne out with our results and performances from Oct to Jan.

Not really sure what your point is other than getting annoyed coz a few people have said Herts have made a few decent signings...u seem to be getting all worked up for no reason.

Nobody is bed wetting or bigging Herts up...calm down

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I agree with much of what you say. I don't think you're bedwetting at all & I agree Halkett & Washington are decent signings. Unfortunately you fall into the Hibs Net trap of distorting statistics to try & prove a point. Why quote Oct to Jan to try & prove our summer transfer window was poor? We were 2nd in the league on 19 October & had just won 6-0. Our decline after that was down to several things, notably the manager imploding & injuries but it's a huge stretch to try to justify your position by blaming it on our summer signings.

[Winston Ingram]

Can see them moving to three at the back.

100%. Washington is an off the shoulder type who can’t play up top on his own and plays in a 2 which means they’re almost definitely going 3-5-2.

3-5-2 is a rotten formation and should only be used in occasional games. The wheels always fall off it. The only evidence of it ever working over a whole season is Juventus about 4-5 years ago and that only worked so well because of they had no challengers.

[SMAXXA]

I agree with much of what you say. I don't think you're bedwetting at all & I agree Halkett & Washington are decent signings. Unfortunately you fall into the Hibs Net trap of distorting statistics to try & prove a point. Why quote Oct to Jan to try & prove our summer transfer window was poor? We were 2nd in the league on 19 October & had just won 6-0. Our decline after that was down to several things, notably the manager imploding & injuries but it's a huge stretch to try to justify your position by blaming it on our summer signings.

I agree with this

[JimBHibees]

They just signed a guy that played 15 times for the team that got promoted out of the English Championship

To suggest that doesn't look like a good signing or to not acknowledge it could be is just folly

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Which player is that?

[Cocaine&Caviar]

100%. Washington is an off the shoulder type who can’t play up top on his own and plays in a 2 which means they’re almost definitely going 3-5-2.

3-5-2 is a rotten formation and should only be used in occasional games. The wheels always fall off it. The only evidence of it ever working over a whole season is Juventus about 4-5 years ago and that only worked so well because of they had no challengers.

Chelsea under Conte? Albeit a 3-4-3

[Callum_62]

Which player is that?Connor Washington

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[Winston Ingram]

Chelsea under Conte? Albeit a 3-4-3

Too much pressure on the wing backs in a 352. They can’t physically deal with a whole side of the pitch on their own and invariably get caught out when they go forward. On top of that teams that use usually fall of a cliff in Feb/March. I got that from a book called Inverting the Pyramid if yer interested.

England at the last world cup were another superb example. Young and Trippier were absolutely burst in the Semi final

343 is completely different as it has 2 wide players up front as well so it takes a significant amount of the workload off the wing backs.

[JimBHibees]

Connor Washington

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Ok didn't realise he had been at Sheffield United.

[madhatter]

Is this still a Hibs transfer thread?

[blaikie]

Mark O’Hara being mentioned on Social Media.

Currently at Peterborough and available, still only 23 ...

[James Stephen]

100%. Washington is an off the shoulder type who can’t play up top on his own and plays in a 2 which means they’re almost definitely going 3-5-2.

3-5-2 is a rotten formation and should only be used in occasional games. The wheels always fall off it. The only evidence of it ever working over a whole season is Juventus about 4-5 years ago and that only worked so well because of they had no challengers.

Hibernian circa 2000 / 2001...?

Although you could say the wheels came off us a wee bit towards the end of that season... might have been more to with Latapy's drinking and us knocking the main stand down too right enough!

[Borderhibbie76]

I agree with much of what you say. I don't think you're bedwetting at all & I agree Halkett & Washington are decent signings. Unfortunately you fall into the Hibs Net trap of distorting statistics to try & prove a point. Why quote Oct to Jan to try & prove our summer transfer window was poor? We were 2nd in the league on 19 October & had just won 6-0. Our decline after that was down to several things, notably the manager imploding & injuries but it's a huge stretch to try to justify your position by blaming it on our summer signings.I do think we make some really good signings last summer eventually mate but dont think Lennon had any idea about a shape or formation as he was making the signings.

2 seasons running weve needed emergency surgery to the squad in Jan...I'm confident that's not going to be the case under Hecky this year...he seems very much like he has a clear plan of how he wants us to play and line up.

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[Iain G]

Hibernian circa 2000 / 2001...?

Although you could say the wheels came off us a wee bit towards the end of that season... might have been more to with Latapy's drinking and us knocking the main stand down too right enough!

A certain 6-2 game perhaps?

[brog]

Mark O’Hara being mentioned on Social Media.

Currently at Peterborough and available, still only 23 ...

Possibly back in for him if Ojo deal is dead. Problem is he would cost a fee.

[brog]

I do think we make some really good signings last summer eventually mate but dont think Lennon had any idea about a shape or formation as he was making the signings.

2 seasons running weve needed emergency surgery to the squad in Jan...I'm confident that's not going to be the case under Hecky this year...he seems very much like he has a clear plan of how he wants us to play and line up.

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Can't argue with that.

[BILLYHIBS]

Ok didn't realise he had been at Sheffield United.

Played 15 scored 0


:greengrin

[SouthMoroccoStu]

I do think we make some really good signings last summer eventually mate but dont think Lennon had any idea about a shape or formation as he was making the signings.

2 seasons running weve needed emergency surgery to the squad in Jan...I'm confident that's not going to be the case under Hecky this year...he seems very much like he has a clear plan of how he wants us to play and line up.

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Brilliant summary

[jeffers]

I do think we make some really good signings last summer eventually mate but dont think Lennon had any idea about a shape or formation as he was making the signings.

2 seasons running weve needed emergency surgery to the squad in Jan...I'm confident that's not going to be the case under Hecky this year...he seems very much like he has a clear plan of how he wants us to play and line up.

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Livingston away for me summed it up perfectly. Ended up with Boyle, Horgan and Agyepong all on the field at the end, none of them clear where they were supposed to be playing while the ball was pumped up the field to Hanlon to try and get an equaliser.

[Since452]

Brilliant summary

Still infuriates me how he managed to turn a squad that knew exactly how and where to play in to one that looked clueless. The more time goes on the more the more i see it

[Callum_62]

Mark O’Hara being mentioned on Social Media.

Currently at Peterborough and available, still only 23 ...Thought it was killie in for him?

Doesn't fit with the midfielder Heckinbottom talks about

Still be a reasonable addition to our squad

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[04Sauzee]

Possibly back in for him if Ojo deal is dead. Problem is he would cost a fee.

I'm not sure that we were ever in for him? Think it may always have been killie

[CraigHibee]

Possibly back in for him if Ojo deal is dead. Problem is he would cost a fee.

But so would ojo, it would then be a case of which player would be worth the payment

[Blocks Biloxi]

Too much pressure on the wing backs in a 352. They can’t physically deal with a whole side of the pitch on their own and invariably get caught out when they go forward. On top of that teams that use usually fall of a cliff in Feb/March. I got that from a book called Inverting the Pyramid if yer interested.

England at the last world cup were another superb example. Young and Trippier were absolutely burst in the Semi final

343 is completely different as it has 2 wide players up front as well so it takes a significant amount of the workload off the wing backs.

Quite enjoyed it in the 2016 Scottish Cup Final :greengrin

[Brightside]

100%. Washington is an off the shoulder type who can’t play up top on his own and plays in a 2 which means they’re almost definitely going 3-5-2.

3-5-2 is a rotten formation and should only be used in occasional games. The wheels always fall off it. The only evidence of it ever working over a whole season is Juventus about 4-5 years ago and that only worked so well because of they had no challengers.

Argentina played 352 pretty well. You pick the best formation to suit the players you have.

[LeithMike]

3-5-2 is a rotten formation and should only be used in occasional games. The wheels always fall off it. The only evidence of it ever working over a whole season is Juventus about 4-5 years ago and that only worked so well because of they had no challengers.

Great comment. I'm not a fan of 3-5-2 either but it did work for a while for Hibs 2000-01 (largely down to playing a proper sweeper and a world class one at that in Sauzee and having a tremendous wing back in Laursen). It also gave Latapy a free role which is what he needed.

Also worked reasonably well in the latter half of 2017-18 - again allowing Allan a free role but dont think we had the wing-backs to sustain it.

I think 3-5-2 can work but it needs special players to carry it off. You need the wide centre-halves to be comfortable out wide and be brave and push forward. Hanlon does it brilliantly on the left hand side. I prefer 4-4-2 as I think the most dangerous ball is a cut-back from the goal line and wing backs never get that far up. Give me a winger with an over-lapping full back any day of the week.

The other obvious thing is that the players with the least footballing ability tend to be centre-halves - so why play three????!!

I'm not sure we'd see the best of Scott Allan in a 4-4-2 so suspect we are going to end up with a 4-3-3 with a single striker and I think that is why Doidge has been brought in. Bringing in McNulty will allow us to vary it and it looks like PH wants us to be fairly flexible in how we play which links into his comments about all the different styles in the SPFL.

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[brog]

But so would ojo, it would then be a case of which player would be worth the payment

I know, but I suspect Scunny will be looking for more money than Posh. If Scunny settle for a nominal fee then it could be back on but as O'Hara is Scottish he's always going to be cheaper/undervalued. Personally I like O'Hara but that may be influenced by when I saw him score 2 against Sevco!!

[BILLYHIBS]

Scott Allan on DR today blaming Celtic for scuppering his move to HIBS in January and treating him and Gamboa unprofessionally and sending them to train on their own in the Gym or with the kids 😳

[Billy Whizz]

Scott Allan on DR today blaming Celtic for scuppering his move to HIBS in January and treating him and Gamboa unprofessionally and sending them to train on their own in the Gym or with the kids 😳

Wish he’d just kept his mouth shut in my opinion
Presume he was paid handsomely to be at Celtic

[Devonhibs]

I am sure SA will be super fired up when we play celtc.

[CapitalGreen]

Wish he’d just kept his mouth shut in my opinion
Presume he was paid handsomely to be at Celtic

Why does it matter how much someone is paid in regards to how they are treated at their workplace?

[Wakeyhibee]

Scott Allan on DR today blaming Celtic for scuppering his move to HIBS in January and treating him and Gamboa unprofessionally and sending them to train on their own in the Gym or with the kids 😳

And yet the BBC article the other day has him explaining his disappointment but the reasons he was given under Rodgers and Lennon. It read totally different.

Players do need to be careful but papers, especially the DR, will turn anything said to suit their needs.

[J-C]

He wanted back last summer but Lawell moved the posts and again in January, he even mentioned the McGinn situation, Celtic think they can do as they please in Scotland.

Lennon was lucky with 3-5-2 when we got 4th, it was an injury to Gray which allowed Boyle to play wingback, a fot Gray and Boyle and we can't play that way unless we drop one of them.

[SHODAN]

Hibs Facebook page has publically announced that Moon is on trial.

[Souter96Mac]

Hibs Facebook page has publically announced that Moon is on trial.

Seems to be a Kamberi-esque situation. Doesn't seem to have done much at Kaiser Chiefs, but if Hecky sees something in him then I'll trust his judgment.

[h18eeynick]

Jordan Forster signed for Dundee . BBC Sport Scotland. Was always sorry we let him go. Very competitive player and good for a few goals

[CapitalGreen]

He wanted back last summer but Lawell moved the posts and again in January, he even mentioned the McGinn situation, Celtic think they can do as they please in Scotland.

But but but TheCat told us it was Dempster who moved the goal posts last summer and it was all her fault he never signed and Allan would be unlikely to ever deal with Hibs again.

[Stuart93]

Jordan Forster signed for Dundee . BBC Sport Scotland. Was always sorry we let him go. Very competitive player and good for a few goals

Meh, I think he was a little over hyped because he broke into a poor team, didn’t rate him much tbh

[GreenCastle]

Hearing McNulty probably won’t be back and looking at options down south.

Marciano flying back and due back for training early next week though.

[Winston Ingram]

Hibernian circa 2000 / 2001...?

Although you could say the wheels came off us a wee bit towards the end of that season... might have been more to with Latapy's drinking and us knocking the main stand down too right enough!

Our results were falling away before then.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Hearing McNulty probably won’t be back and looking at options down south.

Marciano flying back and due back for training early next week though.

Gutted about McNulty if your info is correct

[Winston Ingram]

Quite enjoyed it in the 2016 Scottish Cup Final :greengrin

We were 2-1 down playing 3-5-2. We took Fontaine off and went to a back 4 and brought on Henderson 🏆

[Heisenberg]

Hearing McNulty probably won’t be back and looking at options down south.

Marciano flying back and due back for training early next week though.

I would want him back but wouldn’t go near the fee that Reading want. Best we can probably hope for is a loan at the end of the window if he’s failed to get a move elsewhere.

[04Sauzee]

From twitter

SUMMER SPORT: @SUFCOfficial chairman Peter Swann will join us live after 2pm to respond to claims made by Funso Ojo’s agent that the player should be free to leave the club. #uti #Iron

[Winston Ingram]

Great comment. I'm not a fan of 3-5-2 either but it did work for a while for Hibs 2000-01 (largely down to playing a proper sweeper and a world class one at that in Sauzee and having a tremendous wing back in Laursen). It also gave Latapy a free role which is what he needed.

Also worked reasonably well in the latter half of 2017-18 - again allowing Allan a free role but dont think we had the wing-backs to sustain it.

I think 3-5-2 can work but it needs special players to carry it off. You need the wide centre-halves to be comfortable out wide and be brave and push forward. Hanlon does it brilliantly on the left hand side. I prefer 4-4-2 as I think the most dangerous ball is a cut-back from the goal line and wing backs never get that far up. Give me a winger with an over-lapping full back any day of the week.

The other obvious thing is that the players with the least footballing ability tend to be centre-halves - so why play three????!!

I'm not sure we'd see the best of Scott Allan in a 4-4-2 so suspect we are going to end up with a 4-3-3 with a single striker and I think that is why Doidge has been brought in. Bringing in McNulty will allow us to vary it and it looks like PH wants us to be fairly flexible in how we play which links into his comments about all the different styles in the SPFL.

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It did work but the wheels did fall off it just like it always does. After we beat St Mirren 4-2 at home on the 10th of Feb, we only won 1 more league game.

It’s far to reliant on it wing backs. You need players that are incredibly fit who are willing to get up and down and are a significant threat going forward.

On top of that, you arguably need 4 cos if one gets injured, yer knackered. I remember Hearts playing wing backs in the mid-90’s with McKinlay and Frail. They were flying. Frail was incredible. He got injured and Hearts form fell off a cliff. My Jambo pal said it was like a wheel had fallen off as they had no one else that could play it.

[J-C]

But but but TheCat told us it was Dempster who moved the goal posts last summer and it was all her fault he never signed and Allan would be unlikely to ever deal with Hibs again.

Give it a rest ffs, he was told Dempster cancelled the deal but he never checked why, he jumped the gun, Lawell wanted all his wages covered.

[Mr Grieves]

Hibs Facebook page has publically announced that Moon is on trial.

Yeah, that's unusual for us.

[Wilson]

Seems to be a Kamberi-esque situation. Doesn't seem to have done much at Kaiser Chiefs, but if Hecky sees something in him then I'll trust his judgment.

Kaiser's saw the crescent. Hibs will see the whole of the moon.

[blackpoolhibs]

Give it a rest ffs, he was told Dempster cancelled the deal but he never checked why, he jumped the gun, Lawell wanted all his wages covered.

Aye but what about the bit on Allan never dealing with us again, he was furious if my memory is right with Dempster, and the bit where he also didnt care about digging her out?

I had someone try and explain to me the other day that the earth was flat, never entered my head to tell anyone else, as there are some things that are complete bollox that repeating them only make you out to look stupid.

[Smartie]

Hibs Facebook page has publically announced that Moon is on trial.

Hopefully the trial is long enough for us to ascertain whether or not he has a dark side to him.

[Torto7]

Apparently he's looked out of this world at training.

[Smartie]

From twitter

SUMMER SPORT: @SUFCOfficial chairman Peter Swann will join us live after 2pm to respond to claims made by Funso Ojo’s agent that the player should be free to leave the club. #uti #Iron

That hashtag is a belter.

"Well that's all the boys back from their holidays. Ladies of Magaluf, Asia Napa and Skegness - you can breathe a sigh of relief and get yourselves along to your GPs at last, as the spit roasters of Scunny leave you all alone to come back home to play some football. #uti "

[MacGruber]

Hopefully the trial is long enough for us to ascertain whether or not he has a dark side to him.

No dark side and just moonshine.

Yeah I know.... logging off

[blackpoolhibs]

Apparently he's looked out of this world at training.

Who has, Allan?

[HibbyAndy]

Who has, Allan?

Moon :greengrin

[mjhibby]

Played 15 scored 0


:greengrin

Actually had about 270 mins all told playing time and Jamie walker played one game in 18 months. Still they are great signings though. Mmm.

[CraigHibee]

I know, but I suspect Scunny will be looking for more money than Posh. If Scunny settle for a nominal fee then it could be back on but as O'Hara is Scottish he's always going to be cheaper/undervalued. Personally I like O'Hara but that may be influenced by when I saw him score 2 against Sevco!!

True bud, would be good if we do end up with either, both seem good players

[southsider]

Hopefully the trial is long enough for us to ascertain whether or not he has a dark side to him.

Or a Keith side ?

[Smartie]

Who has, Allan?

That pun didn't just go "whoosh" over your head, it is orbiting around it.

[bigswissstriker]

Why aren’t we in for Chris Cadden ?

[CraigHibee]

Hopefully the trial is long enough for us to ascertain whether or not he has a dark side to him.

Hopefully we have to pay him buttons...

[04Sauzee]

Why aren’t we in for Chris Cadden ?

Should we be? He's always looked ordinary to me and I think there would be a hefty development fee involved

[Jonnyboy]

Jordan Forster signed for Dundee . BBC Sport Scotland. Was always sorry we let him go. Very competitive player and good for a few goals

Am pleased for Jordon. Hope he does well with them

[BILLYHIBS]

Actually had about 270 mins all told playing time and Jamie walker played one game in 18 months. Still they are great signings though. Mmm.

35:228 in English top flight (excluding St Ives)

Hardly prolific



More concerned about HIBS signings tbh

😁👍🏾⚽️🏆🇳🇬

You just know he gonna score against us though

😳

[J-C]

Aye but what about the bit on Allan never dealing with us again, he was furious if my memory is right with Dempster, and the bit where he also didnt care about digging her out?

I had someone try and explain to me the other day that the earth was flat, never entered my head to tell anyone else, as there are some things that are complete bollox that repeating them only make you out to look stupid.

He was given information but didn't check it right, Allan was furious until he discovered it was Celtic's doing. The Cats mistake was giving Dempster grief when it was unjust, mistakes were made but let's continue to slag him anyway.

[Torto7]

That pun didn't just go "whoosh" over your head, it is orbiting around it.


:greengrin

[Blaster]

Why aren’t we in for Chris Cadden ?

USA bound I’d heard

[blackpoolhibs]

That pun didn't just go "whoosh" over your head, it is orbiting around it.


:faf: :top marks

[blackpoolhibs]

He was given information but didn't check it right, Allan was furious until he discovered it was Celtic's doing. The Cats mistake was giving Dempster grief when it was unjust, mistakes were made but let's continue to slag him anyway.

We've all knocked the club at one stage or another, but i cant remember anyone before or after take such delight in doing so.

And when it was proven to be COMPLETE bollox, he spat his dummy out and went onto twitter slagging this place off.

That was no mistake.

[J-C]

We've all knocked the club at one stage or another, but i cant remember anyone before or after take such delight in doing so.

And when it was proven to be COMPLETE bollox, he spat his dummy out and went onto twitter slagging this place off.

That was no mistake.
He got the same info as I and a few others did, he jumped the gun and caused our CEO grief on twitter. Its all on the past but a few take great delight in bringing it up, nove on ffs.

[supermcginn]

Why aren’t we in for Chris Cadden ?

Because we have better.

[calumhibee1]

He got the same info as I and a few others did, he jumped the gun and caused our CEO grief on twitter. Its all on the past but a few take great delight in bringing it up, nove on ffs.

:agree:

[Ozyhibby]

From listening to the S****horpe lads agent on the radio, they activated the clause to say to the club that he was leaving before 31st May as required but because they did not come to an agreement with Hibs until 11th June S****horpe are saying that was too late.
Sounds like not a release clause but a free transfer clause and S****horpe are holding him to the letter of that. In the end the player will get to leave but whether it’s to us, who knows.


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[hfc rd]

From listening to the S****horpe lads agent on the radio, they activated the clause to say to the club that he was leaving before 31st May as required but because they did not come to an agreement with Hibs until 11th June S****horpe are saying that was too late.
Sounds like not a release clause but a free transfer clause and S****horpe are holding him to the letter of that. In the end the player will get to leave but whether it’s to us, who knows.


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Then that is S****thorpe’s fault for making this into a saga.

If the player activated the clause before May 31st and then that’s him as a free agent on June 1st and from there he can start talking with other clubs and get a deal agreed. Don’t see anything Ojo or his agent done wrong there unless there is more to this story that he’s keeping quiet?

[GloryGlory]

Hopefully the trial is long enough for us to ascertain whether or not he has a dark side to him.

But not too long that it eclipses the time other players who've been on trial. :greengrin

[Robbo6-2]

Apparently he's looked out of this world at training.

Heard the same, great feet and touch for big tall guy and is meant to be some finisher. Left sided too

[hfc rd]

Heard the same, great feet and touch for big tall guy and is meant to be some finisher. Left sided too


I didn’t know who he was talking about there.

Thought it was Scott Allan.

[Robbo6-2]

I didn’t know who he was talking about there.

Thought it was Scott Allan.

Fingers crossed it's both

[southsider]

I didn’t know who he was talking about there.

Thought it was Scott Allan.

A guy called Moon we have up training. Think he is a free agent

[hfc rd]

Fingers crossed it's both


Yep. It’ll be interesting to see if he plays in the upcoming friendly matches.

If he does sign, then that’s the striking department pretty much sorted unless we let Kamberi/Shaw move on. Personally would rather keep Kamberi as I think he’ll be a lot better than he was last season, especially with Allan back in the team and send Shaw out on loan where he will play regular 1st team football.

[Leith Green]

Heard the same, great feet and touch for big tall guy and is meant to be some finisher. Left sided too



Possibly a woosh moment there??

[dchibs]

Jordan Forster signed for Dundee . BBC Sport Scotland. Was always sorry we let him go. Very competitive player and good for a few goals

scored at tiny only to get ruled offside by more yam officials.

[Torto7]

Possibly a woosh moment there??

The boys called Moon, it was a crap pun about being out of this world. For the benefit of doubt I know nothing about the boy.:aok:

[Since452]

He was given information but didn't check it right, Allan was furious until he discovered it was Celtic's doing. The Cats mistake was giving Dempster grief when it was unjust, mistakes were made but let's continue to slag him anyway.

Who is the cat?

[Dalianwanda]

Who is the cat?

Used to be a regular poster on here.

[Since452]

Used to be a regular poster on here.

Ah right ok

[dchibs]

No dark side and just moonshine.

Yeah I know.... logging off

by the light of the silvery moon, hell be gone by june.

[LancsHibs]

Then that is S****thorpe’s fault for making this into a saga.

If the player activated the clause before May 31st and then that’s him as a free agent on June 1st and from there he can start talking with other clubs and get a deal agreed. Don’t see anything Ojo or his agent done wrong there unless there is more to this story that he’s keeping quiet?

The Scunny chairman/owner Peter Swann is a total weapon and will undoubtedly be difficult to deal with. If he’s being silly I think the best thing Hibs can do is walk away and not answer the phone to him when he calls back

[JimBHibees]

We were 2-1 down playing 3-5-2. We took Fontaine off and went to a back 4 and brought on Henderson 🏆

We were still by far the better team even though 2 1 down

[MWHIBBIES]

Jordan Forster signed for Dundee . BBC Sport Scotland. Was always sorry we let him go. Very competitive player and good for a few goals

Could really only head and kick it and he wasn't even very good at that. Porteous is a much, much better player than Forster

[Sioux]

Could really only head and kick it and he wasn't even very good at that. Porteous is a much, much better player than Forster

Wtf else is he supposed to use??

[bigwheel]

Jordan Forster signed for Dundee . BBC Sport Scotland. Was always sorry we let him go. Very competitive player and good for a few goals

Great competitor, but so slow to turn....


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[h18eeynick]

Wtf else is he supposed to use??

Brilliant reply ! Love it . Somebody always finds a negative response to a positive post so good put down and just wishing Jordan well after serving us well .

[hfc rd]

Could really only head and kick it and he wasn't even very good at that. Porteous is a much, much better player than Forster

“Could really only head and kick it”

Is that not what you are supposed to do with a football unless you are a GK? If a player couldn’t do the above then he shouldn’t really be a professional footballer.

[h18eeynick]

“Could really only head and kick it”

Is that not what you are supposed to do with a football unless you are a GK? If a player couldn’t do the above then he shouldn’t really be a professional footballer.

I thought he was brilliant at attacking the ball hence original post and no worse at defending than Paul or Darren who ,like anybody, have their moments. Good luck to the lad

[MSK]

Wtf else is he supposed to use??Aye football is ****ed if thats whats being taught nowadays 😆

[Ozyhibby]

I thought he was brilliant at attacking the ball hence original post and no worse at defending than Paul or Darren who ,like anybody, have their moments. Good luck to the lad

He was significantly worse than Paul or Darren. His positional sense and concentration were terrible which is why he never made it at Hibs.
Being a big lad and just throwing yourself at the ball is not defending. We already had James McPake doing that.


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[h18eeynick]

He was significantly worse than Paul or Darren. His positional sense and concentration were terrible which is why he never made it at Hibs.
Being a big lad and just throwing yourself at the ball is not defending. We already had James McPake doing that.


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He did make at Hibs though but chose to move on as not an automatic starter. If I remember the season just gone correctly then Darren gave away a few daft penalties and a daft free kick against St Johnstone in November that they scored the winning goal from. Paul lost us the Aberdeen game with a bad pass that Gary Mckay Steven scored from. Not having a go at them and just saying I am pleased to see Jordan back in Scotland and I will monitor the Dundee reports just as I did with Fontaine going to Ross County. I appreciate players who got the whole Hibs thing

[hfc rd]

He did make at Hibs though but chose to move on as not an automatic starter. If I remember the season just gone correctly then Darren gave away a few daft penalties and a daft free kick against St Johnstone in November that they scored the winning goal from. Paul lost us the Aberdeen game with a bad pass that Gary Mckay Steven scored from. Not having a go at them and just saying I am pleased to see Jordan back in Scotland and I will monitor the Dundee reports just as I did with Fontaine going to Ross County. I appreciate players who got the whole Hibs thing


Agree. I don’t think he was as bad a player as 1-2 posters have suggested. Just that we had better defenders at the club in Hanlon, McGregor & Fontaine.

Hope he does well at Dundee

[MWHIBBIES]

Wtf else is he supposed to use??


“Could really only head and kick it”

Is that not what you are supposed to do with a football unless you are a GK? If a player couldn’t do the above then he shouldn’t really be a professional footballer.

Think you both know what I meant. Just a big lad with no real technical ability. Even McGregor who is pretty old fashioned is a much better footballer than Forster.

[MWHIBBIES]

He did make at Hibs though but chose to move on as not an automatic starter. If I remember the season just gone correctly then Darren gave away a few daft penalties and a daft free kick against St Johnstone in November that they scored the winning goal from. Paul lost us the Aberdeen game with a bad pass that Gary Mckay Steven scored from. Not having a go at them and just saying I am pleased to see Jordan back in Scotland and I will monitor the Dundee reports just as I did with Fontaine going to Ross County. I appreciate players who got the whole Hibs thing

Porteous made that pass, Hanlon didn't play that Aberdeen game.

[h18eeynick]

Porteous made that pass, Hanlon didn't play that Aberdeen game.

You are correct MWHibbies - got the wrong game but he did make a bad pass in a game towards the end of the season which led to a goal. Also you said earlier that Porteous was a much better player but have just confirmed his mistake under no pressure to make the pass ! Sorry - just mischief making when trying to praise a former player who i liked and gave his all to us

[h18eeynick]

Think you both know what I meant. Just a big lad with no real technical ability. Even McGregor who is pretty old fashioned is a much better footballer than Forster.

Having played as a typical centre forward at a decent level for years i wanted the ball played to me as a target man all the time even though i had pace as well. My last couple of years I played centre half and just wanted to get the ball out of the danger zone and didnt want it at my feet and heading was my strong point. Just making the point that most defenders are simply that and unless you are a top class player then the important thing is to get the ball to a team mate that can do something creative

[Since90+2]

Wtf else is he supposed to use??

Brilliant.

[MWHIBBIES]

Having played as a typical centre forward at a decent level for years i wanted the ball played to me as a target man all the time even though i had pace as well. My last couple of years I played centre half and just wanted to get the ball out of the danger zone and didnt want it at my feet and heading was my strong point. Just making the point that most defenders are simply that and unless you are a top class player then the important thing is to get the ball to a team mate that can do something creative

Thing is if he was a brilliant defender who just cleared his lines it would be fine. He really isn't though and that's why he's not here anymore

[Stuart93]

Quite telling than every Cheltenham fan I’ve seen on Twitter are glad to see the back of him

Said he should be less interested in trying to punt Herbalife and just concentrate on playing

[Smartie]

I liked him.

His biggest problem was his injury-proneness. Yes, he made the type of mistake folk are talking about here but he was a 19 year old who had just broken into the team - he was going to make mistakes. They become less with experience, and due to injuries he never really got that experience with us. By all accounts he's missed a lot of football at his next club so I doubt he's probably had that learning experience yet.

If he manages to stay injury free (and I've heard pretty bleak rumours about the likelihood of that ever happening) and gets lots of games, I think Dundee could have a cracking player on their hands.

[Speedway]

Quite telling than every Cheltenham fan I’ve seen on Twitter are glad to see the back of him

Said he should be less interested in trying to punt Herbalife and just concentrate on playing

I can’t imagine he was on a big whack at Cheltenham.

He probably needs gerbilife to supplement his income

[brog]

Thing is if he was a brilliant defender who just cleared his lines it would be fine. He really isn't though and that's why he's not here anymore

I think you're underestimating Jordon. He broke through at 19 in a very poor team. His 1st game was the Ross Caldwell game at PBS but he really endeared himself to me in a shocking Hibs performance at ER versus Arabs. We lost 3 1 going on 10 & Jordon was our only player who could hold his head high after the game. He was one of our youngest players but he led by example & IIRC scored our goal. He suffered a serious injury in about his 3rd season with us & was never quite the same player after that.
At comparative ages he was certainly a better player than Darren M who was playing Junior football at 23 though Darren has of course matured nicely. I never saw Jordon give less than 100% for the jersey & I wish him well at Dundee.

[B.H.F.C]

I think you're underestimating Jordon. He broke through at 19 in a very poor team. His 1st game was the Ross Caldwell game at PBS but he really endeared himself to me in a shocking Hibs performance at ER versus Arabs. We lost 3 1 going on 10 & Jordon was our only player who could hold his head

He’s just went from Cheltenham from Dundee so I don’t think he’s been under estimated. Lived of that debut IMO.

[Since90+2]

I can’t imagine he was on a big whack at Cheltenham.

He probably needs gerbilife to supplement his income

Not sure how you're defining a big whack but he will have likely been on about 2 or 3 times the average wage of normal folk. He would have been paid more than enough money to get by without taking up a second job , especially one that he could easily take up once he finishes his playing career.

As a player though I liked him , if he was coming through in the current climate with Darren and Hanlon to learn from he would have been much better placed to have had a better career.

[h18eeynick]

Thing is if he was a brilliant defender who just cleared his lines it would be fine. He really isn't though and that's why he's not here anymore

Ok - you are obviously a much better analsyt than me. What level did you play out of interest as you make a lot of posts and just interested to know your level of knowledge and where you got such such superior knowledge from for all of the posts you make . Not looking for an argument - just interested in your football background

[Lago]

He got the same info as I and a few others did, he jumped the gun and caused our CEO grief on twitter. Its all on the past but a few take great delight in bringing it up, nove on ffs.
Unfortunately some people just can't let it go, forever indulging themselves.

[B.H.F.C]

The Sun linking McGinn with Man Utd for £50m!

Some sell on clause that would be!

[Tarrahib]

I think you're underestimating Jordon. He broke through at 19 in a very poor team. His 1st game was the Ross Caldwell game at PBS but he really endeared himself to me in a shocking Hibs performance at ER versus Arabs. We lost 3 1 going on 10 & Jordon was our only player who could hold his head high after the game. He was one of our youngest players but he led by example & IIRC scored our goal. He suffered a serious injury in about his 3rd season with us & was never quite the same player after that.
At comparative ages he was certainly a better player than Darren M who was playing Junior football at 23 though Darren has of course matured nicely. I never saw Jordon give less than 100% for the jersey & I wish him well at Dundee.
I wish him well also as do most Genuine Hibs fans.

[h18eeynick]

I wish him well also as do most Genuine Hibs fans.

Well said and good luck to him

[Stuart93]

The Sun linking McGinn with Man Utd for £50m!

Some sell on clause that would be!

I’m not sure I’ve ever heard so much rubbish but it would be incredible for us

[Mikey]

The Sun linking McGinn with Man Utd for £50m!

Some sell on clause that would be!

Therein lies the reason for the sell on clause.

Ker-****ing-ching.

[B.H.F.C]

I’m not sure I’ve ever heard so much rubbish but it would be incredible for us

Not convinced it’ll happen. But it’s the type of player they are looking at, like the boy they’ve just signed from Swansea.

£50m is probably the most unrealistic bit about the story.

[JimBHibees]

I’m not sure I’ve ever heard so much rubbish but it would be incredible for us

Not so sure they have just spent the same on a pretty limited right back.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Always rated Forster. Brave as a lion and a likeable chap too. Wish him all the best.

[Bob Box Fish]

Hecky “ From the 5 million McGinn sell on Rod can I get 1 million for McNulty”

Rod “ I gave you 200k already, now bolt ya chancer “

[S4uzee]

Not so sure they have just spent the same on a pretty limited right back.

Exactly my thoughts plus Crystal Palace want £80 million for Zaha ...

[BILLYHIBS]

Always rated Forster. Brave as a lion and a likeable chap too. Wish him all the best.

This for me!

Always gave 100% for the jersey

Better than some on here would have us think

Never afraid to attack the ball

Still a young player blighted by injury played through the Terry Butcher era
never really got a chance or the time to develop as he would have liked

I was sorry to see him go but there was no way he was displacing Hanlon or MacGregor anytime soon

I wish him all the best for the future



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[kevinc]

Ok - you are obviously a much better analsyt than me. What level did you play out of interest as you make a lot of posts and just interested to know your level of knowledge and where you got such such superior knowledge from for all of the posts you make . Not looking for an argument - just interested in your football background

I agree with MW in terms of his limitations, his assets imo are his power, presence and bravery , his awareness and pace let him down, suspect he will do well in the Championship. Based on your description of your capabilities, I am assuming you played Senior?

[Since90+2]

Not so sure they have just spent the same on a pretty limited right back.

Wan Bissaka is not a limited right back. He's an outstanding player.

Seen him when Scotland under 21s played England 21s at Tynecastle last season and he was an absolute standout. Our Ryan Porteous played the same day and they were miles apart in terms of physicality, ball anticipation, positioning and athleticism. And that's not putting Porteuous down in anyway who is a great prospect but Wan Bisakka is a phenomenal talent.

[tonyrougier123]

Thing is if he was a brilliant defender who just cleared his lines it would be fine. He really isn't though and that's why he's not here anymore

Hes no here anymore because of the competition for the jersey, and his unnderstandable need for games.
He was unlucky with injuries but always a player I wanted to see in the team.

Good luck to him.maybe one day he will be back at easter road,if he shows his real A game,and we can afford him 😉

[BILLYHIBS]

Hes no here anymore because of the competition for the jersey, and his unnderstandable need for games.
He was unlucky with injuries but always a player I wanted to see in the team.

Good luck to him.maybe one day he will be back at easter road,if he shows his real A game,and we can afford him 😉

:aok:

[660]

Hecky “ From the 5 million McGinn sell on Rod can I get 1 million for McNulty”

Rod “ I gave you 200k already, now bolt ya chancer “

I know this is a joke, but I'd hope we wouldn't ***** £1m up the wall on mcnulty.

[BILLYHIBS]

I know this is a joke, but I'd hope we wouldn't ***** £1m up the wall on mcnulty.

Agree!

[MWHIBBIES]

Hes no here anymore because of the competition for the jersey, and his unnderstandable need for games.
He was unlucky with injuries but always a player I wanted to see in the team.

Good luck to him.maybe one day he will be back at easter road,if he shows his real A game,and we can afford him 😉

There was no competition for the jersey, he was miles behind Fonts, Hanlon and McGregor.

[supermcginn]

Man united wanted longstaff from Newcastle but were quoted 55 million so there might be some truth in this. Crazy stuff

[BILLYHIBS]

Ok - you are obviously a much better analsyt than me. What level did you play out of interest as you make a lot of posts and just interested to know your level of knowledge and where you got such such superior knowledge from for all of the posts you make . Not looking for an argument - just interested in your football background

:aok:

[Souter96Mac]

By no means a rumour, but seen on twitter that Rangers look to be letting Ross McCrorie go out on loan this season. Anyone take him?

[MWHIBBIES]

Ok - you are obviously a much better analsyt than me. What level did you play out of interest as you make a lot of posts and just interested to know your level of knowledge and where you got such such superior knowledge from for all of the posts you make . Not looking for an argument - just interested in your football background
I don't have superior knowledge nor have I ever claimed to, I just have my opinion.

I don't need to have been a world class footballer to have opinions on them.

[Unseen work]

By no means a rumour, but seen on twitter that Rangers look to be letting Ross McCrorie go out on loan this season. Anyone take him?

Im sure Gerrard was previously quoted saying he would go nowhere.

Unless they’ve got mixed up and it’s the brother who is a keeper that is allowed out on loan.

[HibeeJude]

By no means a rumour, but seen on twitter that Rangers look to be letting Ross McCrorie go out on loan this season. Anyone take him?
Absolutely, great player and a holding mid which we very much need. Hard to see Rangers doing business with us though

[Since90+2]

I don't have superior knowledge nor have I ever claimed to, I just have my opinion.

I don't need to have been a world class footballer to have opinions on them.

I don't agree with a lot of your posts but you're completely right here.

It's a football fans forum and everyone's opinion should have the same level of respect, having played football at a decent level or not doesn't really matter. Terry Butcher captained England but he was ****ing clueless.

[NAE NOOKIE]

I wish him well also as do most Genuine Hibs fans.

Me as well. Whatever Forster's limitations as a footballer there was no doubt about his commitment or his bravery … whose to say that he couldn't have improved as a player if he hadn't been absolutely cursed with injuries at a vital time in his career … good luck to him.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Not so sure they have just spent the same on a pretty limited right back.

that pretty limited right back had some of the best stats in the EPL for a full back last season. 50m is crazy money but he is a highly talented player

[tonyrougier123]

There was no competition for the jersey, he was miles behind Fonts, Hanlon and McGregor.

Behave yerself! Miles?? 😂

[Ray_]

Wan Bissaka is not a limited right back. He's an outstanding player.

Seen him when Scotland under 21s played England 21s at Tynecastle last season and he was an absolute standout. Our Ryan Porteous played the same day and they were miles apart in terms of physicality, ball anticipation, positioning and athleticism. And that's not putting Porteuous down in anyway who is a great prospect but Wan Bisakka is a phenomenal talent.

Agree with you 100%, mind you the whole England team dominated us that night, but he has been a standout in the games I've seen him in down here as well. Ironically, the last fullback I felt this good about was Kenny Sansom, also playing for Palace, against Hibs in Feb 1978 and he went on and done not too bad for himself, but this lad is far more of an athlete with it.

[Paisley Hibby]

Always rated Forster. Brave as a lion and a likeable chap too. Wish him all the best.

Me too. Don't understand the haters on here and what they get out of spouting their negative stuff 🙄

[Borderhibbie76]

Hecky “ From the 5 million McGinn sell on Rod can I get 1 million for McNulty”

Rod “ I gave you 200k already, now bolt ya chancer “There are better players we can spend £1 million on than McNulty...happy to have him back mate but he ain't worth that...no chance

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[jax67]

There’s no way that we will spend a million quid on any player. There’s a wage structure at Hibs and million pound players wages( IMO) would be a heck of a lot more than what’s on offer within that structure. I really like McNulty, if he comes back to us I imagine it will be after he’s negotiated his release from Reading.

[brog]

There was no competition for the jersey, he was miles behind Fonts, Hanlon and McGregor.

Of course he was. That's why he played over 50 1st team games by the age of 21. We all have different opinions of players but it's sometimes good to support them with facts.

[mjhibby]

Me too. Don't understand the haters on here and what they get out of spouting their negative stuff ��

Totally agree. I know a lot of folk get rid of life's frustrations at games and vent their spleen when things go wrong but it never helps the team. When you see the likes of the palace and Huddersfield fans and the backing they give their teams,even when they had horrendous home records. I do wish we were more like that. Make Easter road a place teams dread coming to. It's the way of things in social media that everybody has an opinion on everything and unfortunately these posts are mostly negative. Maybe it's our nature and we are only happy when it rains as Fran Healy said. I like to hear all opinions but would love to see more nuanced opinions and not the tsunami of negativity we have now. Small rant over.

[matty_f]

Totally agree. I know a lot of folk get rid of life's frustrations at games and vent their spleen when things go wrong but it never helps the team. When you see the likes of the palace and Huddersfield fans and the backing they give their teams,even when they had horrendous home records. I do wish we were more like that. Make Easter road a place teams dread coming to. It's the way of things in social media that everybody has an opinion on everything and unfortunately these posts are mostly negative. Maybe it's our nature and we are only happy when it rains as Fran Healy said. I like to hear all opinions but would love to see more nuanced opinions and not the tsunami of negativity we have now. Small rant over.
Pretty sure it was Shirley Manson who said she was only happy when it rains. Could be talking Garbage, though.

[Heisenberg]

Mulumbu has been punted by Celtc. Would expect Killie to be where he ends up but he’d surely fit the bill for the defensive midfielder that we need?

[Marvellous]

Mulumbu has been punted by Celtc. Would expect Killie to be where he ends up but he’d surely fit the bill for the defensive midfielder that we need?

Hope he's being considered :agree:

[CallumLaidlaw]

Mulumbu has been punted by Celtc. Would expect Killie to be where he ends up but he’d surely fit the bill for the defensive midfielder that we need?

Maybe not, with Clarke no longer there.


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[CapitalGreen]

Mulumbu has been punted by Celtc. Would expect Killie to be where he ends up but he’d surely fit the bill for the defensive midfielder that we need?

Not sure he has the energy, PH is looking for in his midfielders. Good in a battle but anyone running at him with pace and he is like a man down.

[Heisenberg]

Not sure he has the energy, PH is looking for in his midfielders. Good in a battle but anyone running at him with pace and he is like a man down.

Hecky said he wants someone who can link defence and midfield to help us play out from the back, which I think Mulumbu could do. But you are spot on, he’s not the quickest anymore and won’t get about the pitch. His injury record also isn’t great.

[mentalhibee]

Mulumbu would be a great singing, exactly what we need. Good leader with physical presence and ability.

[MWHIBBIES]

Of course he was. That's why he played over 50 1st team games by the age of 21. We all have different opinions of players but it's sometimes good to support them with facts.


Behave yerself! Miles?? 😂
How many games did he start after Fontaine joined? Come on, he was clearly not close to the 3 main guys at the time, he just wasn't good enough and was moved on.

[BILLYHIBS]

How many games did he start after Fontaine joined? Come on, he was clearly not close to the 3 main guys at the time, he just wasn't good enough and was moved on.

28 plus 17 as a sub scoring 2 goals

Missed the whole of the 2015/16 campaign through injury

Fonts joined us in August 2014

played 100 scored 4

Forster

played 79 scored 6

Lies damned lies and statistics!

[we are hibs]

Ryan Gauld to be released by sporting with a year left on his deal. Wonder where he will end up next. Unlucky to get injured here and I think he would've made an impact had he stayed fit. Sad that some hibs fans just followed that turd Kris boyd's analysis of him after his first 45 minutes of football in about 5 months. Shouldn't have been judged on that.

[Billy Whizz]

Ryan Gauld to be released by sporting with a year left on his deal. Wonder where he will end up next. Unlucky to get injured here and I think he would've made an impact had he stayed fit. Sad that some hibs fans just followed that turd Kris boyd's analysis of him after his first 45 minutes of football in about 5 months. Shouldn't have been judged on that.

Can’t see him at Hibs. Hecky said he has to go somewhere to play every week
A season with regular game time, is what Gauld needs

[Bangkok Hibby]

Pretty sure it was Shirley Manson who said she was only happy when it rains. Could be talking Garbage, though.


Seen what you did there.....:agree:

[mjhibby]

Pretty sure it was Shirley Manson who said she was only happy when it rains. Could be talking Garbage, though.

Me bad. Got songs mixed up. I meant of course why does it always rain on me. Apologies.

[MWHIBBIES]

28 plus 17 as a sub scoring 2 goals

Missed the whole of the 2015/16 campaign through injury

Fonts joined us in August 2014

played 100 scored 4

Forster

played 79 scored 6

Lies damned lies and statistics!

So 28 games in 3 years, quite a few of which will be alongside them in a back 3 before McGregor joined.

He didn't miss the whole season injured, he was fit and farmed out on loan because he couldn't get in the side.

He just wasn't good enough, awful in our relegation season, forgotten because he was younger I guess.

McGregor done everything Forster done, just to a much higher level. Great upgrade from Stubbs.

[brog]

How many games did he start after Fontaine joined? Come on, he was clearly not close to the 3 main guys at the time, he just wasn't good enough and was moved on.

You seriously don't think a year out through injury played any part in that decision? It's ironic really in that if there's one current player who Forster can genuinely be compared to it's Darren M. Neither of them the most technically gifted,nor the quickest though I remember some swashbuckling right back runs from Jordon, but both committed, strong & physical & brave as they come & highly popular/respected by their team mates. Those are great attributes for any player & I think its pertinent that he's just been signed by an ex team mate.

[Ozyhibby]

You seriously don't think a year out through injury played any part in that decision? It's ironic really in that if there's one current player who Forster can genuinely be compared to it's Darren M. Neither of them the most technically gifted,nor the quickest though I remember some swashbuckling right back runs from Jordon, but both committed, strong & physical & brave as they come & highly popular/respected by their team mates. Those are great attributes for any player & I think its pertinent that he's just been signed by an ex team mate.

I think it’s more pertinent that’s he’s just signed for a Scottish Championship team. He’s not good enough.


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[brog]

I think it’s more pertinent that’s he’s just signed for a Scottish Championship team. He’s not good enough.


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John McGinn was a Scottish Championship player.

[J-C]

So 28 games in 3 years, quite a few of which will be alongside them in a back 3 before McGregor joined.

He didn't miss the whole season injured, he was fit and farmed out on loan because he couldn't get in the side.

He just wasn't good enough, awful in our relegation season, forgotten because he was younger I guess.

McGregor done everything Forster done, just to a much higher level. Great upgrade from Stubbs.

Jeez you're like a dog with a bone, is there really any need to continually slag off an ex player who gave his all when he played for us.

[JimBHibees]

Wan Bissaka is not a limited right back. He's an outstanding player.

Seen him when Scotland under 21s played England 21s at Tynecastle last season and he was an absolute standout. Our Ryan Porteous played the same day and they were miles apart in terms of physicality, ball anticipation, positioning and athleticism. And that's not putting Porteuous down in anyway who is a great prospect but Wan Bisakka is a phenomenal talent.

Very good athlete and good at palace not great on the ball imo. Scored an own goal in a recent tournament game because he refused to use his left foot.