Summer 2019 transfer thread

[neil7908]

I’m not a great fan of that system....it’s alright if your two wide men are Sterling and Bernardo Sylva,I’m old fashioned and think we should be playing 3-5-2 or 4-4-2,our best play in recent seasons has come with these formations,but with only shaw,kamberi and doidge as recognised strikers it isn’t going to happen unfortunately.


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I agree 100%. We were at our best playing 3-5-2 under Lennon and I think our current squad isn't suited to 4-3-3. In particular I don't think Doidge or Kamberi can play up top on their own.

But it seems pretty clear the manager has his preferred formation and that's likely what we'll go with.

[MacGruber]

Like the sound of Vela. Good pedigree, young age and sounds athletic and combative.

Just 3 to go now.....

[04Sauzee]

Realistically what do we need?

Forward
Winger
Defensive midfield player

Or am I being greedy?

[badabing67]

On paper sounds spot on well done hibs 👍

Omeonga, McNulty and a left back and all is forgiven ....

I'd like a left winger as well

[Cocaine&Caviar]

GK: Marciano / Maxwell

RB: Gray / James
CB: Porteous / McGregor
CB: Hanlon / Jackson
LB: Stevenson / Mackie

DM: Vela / Whittaker
CM: Mallan / F. Murray
CM: Allan / Slivka

RW: Boyle
LW: Horgan / Newall
CF: Doidge / Kamberi / Shaw

[Brightside]

He will be the runner in the middle 3. Allan and Mallan infront.

[bingo70]

He will be the runner in the middle 3. Allan and Mallan infront.

I’d really like to see someone compete with Mallan for his position.

He’s got ability and we’d miss his set pieces but he’s not consistent enough from open play for me. That’s not to say he can’t be a useful squad player and he has the ability to win his place back throughout the season but I just think someone like Omeonga would be an instant improvement on him right now.

[The_Horde]

Long overdue replacement for Helicopter legs. And he's played with the legend that is big Emile Heskey, that'll do for me.

[LeithMike]

He will be the runner in the middle 3. Allan and Mallan infront.Cant see two being played in front of the runner, otherwise he'll be constantly checking his runs. Suspect we also need a holding midfielder if Vela is box to box.

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[AlbertK86]

I reckon it will be 4-2-3-1

With Mallan and Vela sitting with Allan ahead of them at no 10.

However expect it to get mixed up dependant on who we are playing


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[04Sauzee]

I reckon it will be 4-2-3-1

With Mallan and Vela sitting with Allan ahead of them at no 10.

However expect it to get mixed up dependant on who we are playing


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I reckon the 4-3-3 will also be more of a 4-2-3-1

[Speedway]

Careful now. You’re almost sounding positive.

I’m positive that I’d like nothing more than the manager and players to prove me completely wrong and that we see silverware and Euro qualification at ER this season.

[mjhibby]

Indeed. Hecky must be looking at another striker as we can't go into the season with just two main strikers. Plus of course a CDM. If we can get two quality players for those two positions then I'd be happy. Boyle and Allan aren't bear match sharp yet so when they are they will add greatly to the team. I trust heckys judgement. So much doom and gloom on here it's unreal. After one glorified friendly. Be glad when the league season kicks off.

And right on cue Hecky does it again. Even some on keekback have admitted he's a very good signing. Just the striker now. When we least expect it of course.

[Stuart93]

I’m positive that I’d like nothing more than the manager and players to prove me completely wrong and that we see silverware and Euro qualification at ER this season.

To be fair, silverware is a massive ask especially with the rangers looking the strongest they have since they’ve been back

I’d be happy with a cup run

[PatHead]

To be fair, silverware is a massive ask especially with the rangers looking the strongest they have since they’ve been back

I’d be happy with a cup run

They can't come back they died.

[Stuart93]

They can't come back they died.

When the old rangers died and a new company was set up that have absolutely no affiliation to the company that used to exist

[J-C]

I reckon the 4-3-3 will also be more of a 4-2-3-1


The thing about the new systems most teams use is they are very versatile, they can go from attacking shape to defensive pretty quickly, you need fit energetic players to play them but as we've seen with Barca, Man C, Liverpool etc when you get the right players it can be very very good.

[nellio]

Delighted with Vela. Cardiff were looking at him for a while. A fantastic signing.:flag:

[brog]

Fantastic call guys , Well done :aok:


I’d really like to see someone compete with Mallan for his position.

He’s got ability and we’d miss his set pieces but he’s not consistent enough from open play for me. That’s not to say he can’t be a useful squad player and he has the ability to win his place back throughout the season but I just think someone like Omeonga would be an instant improvement on him right now.


Yep because Omeonga with his 1 assist is much better than Mallan with his double figures goals & assists.

[Souter96Mac]

Pleased with Vela's signing, sounds exactly what we need. If, and it's a big if, we can get McNulty and Omeonga in this window, it would be some summer. I imagine Kamberi will probably leave, to help make way for those two.

I would still like cover out wide, possibly a loanee as backup.

[bingo70]

Yep because Omeonga with his 1 assist is much better than Mallan with his double figures goals & assists.

How did Aberdeen and Killie manage to survive without a midfielder with these stats?

You’re judging him on his stats but there’s more to football than stats. Mallan is a very good technical football player but from open play he’s not as good as his stats suggest.

That goal against Livingston showed what a good player he can be, he didn’t do that anywhere nearly enough from open play for me though, if he can add that to his game then great.

Do you think Mallan would have got his game for Killie or Aberdeen last season? Personally speaking I don’t think he would have.

[04Sauzee]

Pleased with Vela's signing, sounds exactly what we need. If, and it's a big if, we can get McNulty and Omeonga in this window, it would be some summer. I imagine Kamberi will probably leave, to help make way for those two.

I would still like cover out wide, possibly a loanee as backup.

Read somwhere today Llyod Isgrove but I think that was an old rumour, played for Barnsley so I think it's probably a lazy guess

[B.H.F.C]

How did Aberdeen and Killie manage to survive without a midfielder with these stats?

You’re judging him on his stats but there’s more to football than stats. Mallan is a very good technical football player but from open play he’s not as good as his stats suggest.

That goal against Livingston showed what a good player he can be, he didn’t do that anywhere nearly enough from open play for me though, if he can add that to his game then great.

Do you think Mallan would have got his game for Killie or Aberdeen last season? Personally speaking I don’t think he would have.

Mallan would have got a game in that Killie team, in his proper position, with Dicker and Power doing the things he isn’t very good at and him doing what they can’t. IMO of course.

[bingo70]

Mallan would have got a game in that Killie team, in his proper position, with Dicker and Power doing the things he isn’t very good at and him doing what they can’t. IMO of course.

Fair play but I’m not so sure.

Killie players were all disciplined, I’m not convinced Mallan was/is, I think he tends to float about a bit and relies on his abilities to strike a ball from distance to hide the flaws in his game.

Time will tell next season but I’m not sure Mallan will start as many games next season as he did last.

[Eyrie]

They can't come back they died.

That's what zombies do.

[B.H.F.C]

Fair play but I’m not so sure.

Killie players were all disciplined, I’m not convinced Mallan was/is, I think he tends to float about a bit and relies on his abilities to strike a ball from distance to hide the flaws in his game.

Time will tell next season but I’m not sure Mallan will start as many games next season as he did last.

Thing is, there were too many games when we didn’t play him in a position where we could make the most of those attributes.

Waste of a jersey playing deeper. On the open play thing, most of his goals were from open play but he needs to be in the right part of the pitch to do it.

If he was to find himself out of the team it’s a lot of goals/assists to replace. For that reason, I think we need to find a way to get the best out of him.

[Hibee Mac]

Fair play but I’m not so sure.

Killie players were all disciplined, I’m not convinced Mallan was/is, I think he tends to float about a bit and relies on his abilities to strike a ball from distance to hide the flaws in his game.

Time will tell next season but I’m not sure Mallan will start as many games next season as he did last.

I couldn't agree more that he needs competition for his spot. I've probably done this point to death but it should be Allan/Mallan fighting it out for one spot in our midfield.

Like you say there is far more to a footballer than his goal/assist tally.

[we are hibs]

Omeonga is a better footballer than Mallan.

[bingo70]

Thing is, there were too many games when we didn’t play him in a position where we could make the most of those attributes.

Waste of a jersey playing deeper. On the open play thing, most of his goals were from open play but he needs to be in the right part of the pitch to do it.

If he was to find himself out of the team it’s a lot of goals/assists to replace. For that reason, I think we need to find a way to get the best out of him.

I think when he plays more advance he can’t deal with the lack of space. He gets a bit over crowded. I think Scott Allan has the same problem.

Playing a bit deeper allows them to pick up the ball in space.

[S4uzee]

Omeonga is a better footballer than Mallan.

Who contributed more last season?

[bingo70]

Who contributed more last season?

Define contribution?

If it’s based purely on stats such as goals and assists then you could basically judge a footballer by a spreadsheet.

I think our form improved dramatically and we looked a better side when Omeonga came into the team.

[Torto7]

Omeonga is a better footballer than Mallan.

Not with the ball. He's superior without it though.

[B.H.F.C]

Define contribution?

If it’s based purely on stats such as goals and assists then you could basically judge a footballer by a spreadsheet.

I think our form improved dramatically and we looked a better side when Omeonga came into the team.

I think you’re right that there is more to it than just creating and scoring goals. Omeonga played a lot of games in quite advanced positions though and didn’t contribute enough in the final third, part of the reason we could hardly score a goal towards the end of the season.

The one thing with Omeonga is that I’m not quite sure what he is. I think he’s neat and tidy and probably capable of more.

[PH91]

Define contribution?

If it’s based purely on stats such as goals and assists then you could basically judge a footballer by a spreadsheet.

I think our form improved dramatically and we looked a better side when Omeonga came into the team.

We did. But that only makes the point that omeonga is better than hyndman.

Probably not a popular opinion but I think omeonga is a bit overrated on here. As very good as we was at some things (energy, knicking the ball in midfield) he was equally bad at others (passing longer than 5 yards, attacking threat). I would have him back as a squad player, though. And for the song.

[calumhibee1]

We did. But that only makes the point that omeonga is better than hyndman.

Probably not a popular opinion but I think omeonga is a bit overrated on here. As very good as we was at some things (energy, knicking the ball in midfield) he was equally bad at others (passing longer than 5 yards, attacking threat). I would have him back as a squad player, though. And for the song.

I’d agree he’s over rated on here. A good player who id be happy to have back, but if he signed I doubt we’ll be selling him on for big bucks in the future.

[Nicho87]

I like omenonga and would have back in a heart beat. Would I want hibs to pay a big transfer fee, no.

we need strikers badly.

[Torto7]

We did. But that only makes the point that omeonga is better than hyndman.

Probably not a popular opinion but I think omeonga is a bit overrated on here. As very good as we was at some things (energy, knicking the ball in midfield) he was equally bad at others (passing longer than 5 yards, attacking threat). I would have him back as a squad player, though. And for the song.

That's how I see him too. He's a useful player to have in the squad. A guy who can play all over the midfield and bring you energy. He's excellent at closing off passing lanes something Scottish players are truly dire at. He suits certain games. The rest of his game needs work-passing length especially.

It depends on cost for me. Same as MM.

[B.H.F.C]

I like omenonga and would have back in a heart beat. Would I want hibs to pay a big transfer fee, no.

we need strikers badly.

I wouldn’t say we need strikers badly, although quite a lot seem to disagree.

I think we might bring one in but, even then, it might be because one leaves. With the way Heckingbottom looks like setting the team up I don’t think we’re going to carry four strikers and definitely not five.

The right balance in midfield is most important for me and we’ve then got a number of players (Allan, Mallan, Horgan, Boyle) who should be contributing at least 6-8 goals each. Kamberi getting back to form is really important though.

[Ozyhibby]

Mallan will perform better with a better holding mid behind him.


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[badabing67]

I wouldn’t say we need strikers badly, although quite a lot seem to disagree.

I think we might bring one in but, even then, it might be because one leaves. With the way Heckingbottom looks like setting the team up I don’t think we’re going to carry four strikers and definitely not five.

The right balance in midfield is most important for me and we’ve then got a number of players (Allan, Mallan, Horgan, Boyle) who should be contributing at least 6-8 goals each. Kamberi getting back to form is really important though.

I think you should include Murray and Slivka in that. For me particularly Slivka. He has scored in big games but one of the things that got on my nerves about him last season was that lack of shoots he took at goal even though he did get in positions to do so

[oldbutdim]

Long overdue replacement for Helicopter legs. And he's played with the legend that is big Emile Heskey, that'll do for me.

Who is Helicopter legs?

And why?

[B.H.F.C]

I think you should include Murray and Slivka in that. For me particularly Slivka. He has scored in big games but one of the things that got on my nerves about him last season was that lack of shoots he took at goal even though he did get in positions to do so

Not convinced Slivka will be there. And if he is, he’ll be in and out the team at best.

Murray could be capable of goals but not sure how much he’ll play.

The four I mentioned will, I think, play most weeks.

[jacomo]

How did Aberdeen and Killie manage to survive without a midfielder with these stats?

You’re judging him on his stats but there’s more to football than stats. Mallan is a very good technical football player but from open play he’s not as good as his stats suggest.

That goal against Livingston showed what a good player he can be, he didn’t do that anywhere nearly enough from open play for me though, if he can add that to his game then great.

Do you think Mallan would have got his game for Killie or Aberdeen last season? Personally speaking I don’t think he would have.


We spend years moaning about lack of goals from midfield and then moan when we get a goal scoring midfielder.

I don’t quite know where Mallan fits in the team but we need to find a way if we can. Scott Allan doesn’t score that many but a midfield of those two plus one other could be a very good thing.

[Steven79]

Not convinced Slivka will be there. And if he is, he’ll be in and out the team at best.

Murray could be capable of goals but not sure how much he’ll play.

The four I mentioned will, I think, play most weeks.

I can see him moving on once we get another midfielder in.

[Brightside]

Omeonga is a better footballer than Mallan.

No idea why people say things like this. They are completely different players. Mallans range of passing and dead ball ability is much better but Omeonga has much more tenacity and energy.

[B.H.F.C]

We spend years moaning about lack of goals from midfield and then moan when we get a goal scoring midfielder.

I don’t quite know where Mallan fits in the team but we need to find a way if we can. Scott Allan doesn’t score that many but a midfield of those two plus one other could be a very good thing.

Allan showed signs in his last loan spell that he was going to start chipping in with goals. And has done in pre season as well. I think he should be looking for double figures.

[Hibbyradge]

Who is Helicopter legs?

And why?

I think he's referring to SJM who said when he joined AV that he ran like he was chasing a helicopter.

Helicopter legs is a new one on me though, but I once knew a lass who might have merited that nickname. :wink:

[SHODAN]

Anyone heard anything about us signing Joshua vela from Bolton?

No

[MacGruber]

Still needing 3 more. Maybe Heckingbottom was saying 1 more because in his mind he is counting McNulty and Omeonga in the numbers..... straw clutch.

3 more, midfielder, striker, pacey left winger.

Omeonga, McNulty, Lewis Morgan

Love Omeonga but maybe now needing a big physical midfielder to compliment

[GloryGlory]

Still needing 3 more. Maybe Heckingbottom was saying 1 more because in his mind he is counting McNulty and Omeonga in the numbers..... straw clutch.

3 more, midfielder, striker, pacey left winger.

Omeonga, McNulty, Lewis Morgan

Love Omeonga but maybe now needing a big physical midfielder to compliment

Lewis Morgan played for Celtic last night. looks like he is in Lennon's plans - at least unless and until they get more signings in.

[brog]

No idea why people say things like this. They are completely different players. Mallans range of passing and dead ball ability is much better but Omeonga has much more tenacity and energy.

That's pretty much it for me. As for those asking if Mallan would get a game for Killie or Aberdeen IMO he would be a star. Both those teams have strong, hard working but not hugely skilful midfields. Stevie could do what he does best with others doing the heavy lifting for him.

[calumhibee1]

Still needing 3 more. Maybe Heckingbottom was saying 1 more because in his mind he is counting McNulty and Omeonga in the numbers..... straw clutch.

3 more, midfielder, striker, pacey left winger.

Omeonga, McNulty, Lewis Morgan

Love Omeonga but maybe now needing a big physical midfielder to compliment

Without knowing anything about Vela I do reckon from what people are saying that we now need a different type of midfielder to Omeonga. More of a player to sit in front of the back 4 required now.

[calumhibee1]

That's pretty much it for me. As for those asking if Mallan would get a game for Killie or Aberdeen IMO he would be a star. Both those teams have strong, hard working but not hugely skilful midfields. Stevie could do what he does best with others doing the heavy lifting for him.

He definitely would get a game for them imo. Problem we have is that we don’t have anyone to do the heavy lifting at present (unless Vela is that guy). As such, Mallan is having to attempt to do it and it’s not his game.

[The_Horde]

Who is Helicopter legs?

And why?

SJM. Self explanatory really!

If you mean why is he the replacement, its because he too never stops running.

[GloryGlory]

Without knowing anything about Vela I do reckon from what people are saying that we now need a different type of midfielder to Omeonga. More of a player to sit in front of the back 4 required now.

Yes. Omeonga described himself as a high energy, box to box midfielder, which is the same description we have for Vela. Similar types, unless Hecky envisages one driving forward whilst the other sits back, with them both switching roles as required in a game.

[J-C]

Yes. Omeonga described himself as a high energy, box to box midfielder, which is the same description we have for Vela. Similar types, unless Hecky envisages one driving forward whilst the other sits back, with them both switching roles as required in a game.

Cant have too many good players in the squad, it's a long season.

[The_Horde]

Yes. Omeonga described himself as a high energy, box to box midfielder, which is the same description we have for Vela. Similar types, unless Hecky envisages one driving forward whilst the other sits back, with them both switching roles as required in a game.

Omeonga is very good technically too though. Watch the way he controls the ball and glides across the pitch at times.

[Since452]

Still think we need another midfielder and striker in. If we do then I'll be pretty happy

[blackpoolhibs]

That's pretty much it for me. As for those asking if Mallan would get a game for Killie or Aberdeen IMO he would be a star. Both those teams have strong, hard working but not hugely skilful midfields. Stevie could do what he does best with others doing the heavy lifting for him.

:agree:
Mallan needs to be creating and probing from further forward, and by playing further forward he will naturally be in positions where openings occur for him to get a shot away or get into the box more often.

Playing where he has since PH has come in does him or the team no favours, especially when he will always be compared to Mc Geouch in that deep lying position.

[tonyrougier123]

Without knowing anything about Vela I do reckon from what people are saying that we now need a different type of midfielder to Omeonga. More of a player to sit in front of the back 4 required now.
Wee steph is a must for any midfield,skillfull plenty energy good in the tackle defends supports.class!

[GloryGlory]

Cant have too many good players in the squad, it's a long season.

Yep. And if you're the high energy, running about the whole game type you need a break and a rest now and again to keep you fresh.

[calumhibee1]

Wee steph is a must for any midfield,skillfull plenty energy good in the tackle defends supports.class!

I would still be more than happy to have him back but if it’s a case of one more in for CM as people are saying then I think we’d be better served by someone more defensive.

[Since452]

Marciano

Gray McGregor Hanlon Stevenson

Vela

Boyle Mallan

Allan

Kamberi Doidge


Still think we need a bruiser in there. A Marvin Bartley type :wink:

[tonyrougier123]

I would still be more than happy to have him back but if it’s a case of one more in for CM as people are saying then I think we’d be better served by someone more defensive.

He was our midfield from feb to may imo.

I hope hibs are vigorously persuing him,even if it means shipping some out.

[ScottB]

Cant have too many good players in the squad, it's a long season.

Exactly. If our new found wealth and goal to cement a position as ‘best of the rest’ is more than just good PR speak, we need more than just a good 11.

[The Leith Dutch]

:agree:
Mallan needs to be creating and probing from further forward, and by playing further forward he will naturally be in positions where openings occur for him to get a shot away or get into the box more often.

Playing where he has since PH has come in does him or the team no favours, especially when he will always be compared to Mc Geouch in that deep lying position.

:agree:

At the root of it for me is not whether Mallan is a good player - I think he's a fabulous player.
It's what type of player he is and I think we're trying to make him into one he's not - a deep sitting centre mid - just to get him in the team.

He's one of the best ranged strikers of a ball in the league and to play him in a position that requires him to be disciplined in patrolling an area of park that is out of range for his shooting isn't a particularly smart move imo - it relies on us getting free kicks to utilise that strength.

The ultimate problem is that I really struggle to find a formation that fits both Allan and Mallan in the same XI.
That becomes impossible if we're also playing two wide attackers.

[GreenCastle]

:agree:

At the root of it for me is not whether Mallan is a good player - I think he's a fabulous player.
It's what type of player he is and I think we're trying to make him into one he's not - a deep sitting centre mid - just to get him in the team.

He's one of the best ranged strikers of a ball in the league and to play him in a position that requires him to be disciplined in patrolling an area of park that is out of range for his shooting isn't a particularly smart move imo - it relies on us getting free kicks to utilise that strength.

The ultimate problem is that I really struggle to find a formation that fits both Allan and Mallan in the same XI.
That becomes impossible if we're also playing two wide attackers.

Agreed.

Seems it will be midfield triangle of..

Vela

Allan Mallan

Boyle Flo or Doidge Horgan

[The Leith Dutch]

Marciano

Gray McGregor Hanlon Stevenson

Vela

Boyle Mallan

Allan

Kamberi Doidge


Still think we need a bruiser in there. A Marvin Bartley type :wink:

I'm starting to become concerned that we're doing what we did last year - signing good players but not having a proper team in there.
Not sure it has to be a bruiser but I think you're right that we definitely need someone else in midfield who's job is a little less glamourous.

There are 5 players in that team who will struggle to win the ball back and who we signed primarily to attack the opposition.
All of them are good shouts for the team and it doesn't include Horgan who's been one of the most consistent performers of late.

I think we have good players but an unbalanced squad.
Strength in depth is essential but it needs to be across the board.
Injuries to Vela, Stevenson or Gray and we'd be in trouble.

[calumhibee1]

:agree:

At the root of it for me is not whether Mallan is a good player - I think he's a fabulous player.
It's what type of player he is and I think we're trying to make him into one he's not - a deep sitting centre mid - just to get him in the team.

He's one of the best ranged strikers of a ball in the league and to play him in a position that requires him to be disciplined in patrolling an area of park that is out of range for his shooting isn't a particularly smart move imo - it relies on us getting free kicks to utilise that strength.

The ultimate problem is that I really struggle to find a formation that fits both Allan and Mallan in the same XI.
That becomes impossible if we're also playing two wide attackers.

That’s the way I see it. Short of finding a McGinn-esque centre mid I don’t see any way that Mallan and Allan can form 2/3rds of a midfield. Not because they’re not good players but because they’re not suited to playing a defensive role. Throw in a couple of wingers aswell and it’s putting a massive responsibility on the shoulders of the deeper midfielder.

[Brightside]

Agreed.

Seems it will be midfield triangle of..

Vela

Allan Mallan

Boyle Flo or Doidge Horgan

I agree - we are looking at 433 attack 451 defend.

[LeithMike]

As it stands, I think our midfield 3 will be Mallan (holding) Vela (box to box) and Allan (in behind the strikers). Not ideal though and given that PH is on record as saying he wants a midfielder to being the ball out of defence and do the defensive side of the midfield role, I am pretty certain we'll be bringing someone else in (Ojo was obviously earmarked for this role).

From PH's description of Vela praising his athleticism, I'd be highly surprised if he takes the holding midfield role.

I get the impression that Mallan will be competing with Allan for a place in the starting 11 unless we go to a midfield 4 in which I could see him being shoe-horned into the right hand side of midfield. There is no doubt that Mallan is a bigger goal threat than Allan but, for me, the team is better with Allan. If Mallan is going to be a starter I think he needs to improve his movement off the ball (and I am meaning when we have the ball). Perhaps he can do that learning from Scott.

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[hibbie02]

From what I have seen of Omeonga, he is more a bite yer ankles type than a box to box. Take what he is good at, winning the ball and work on his distribution. He gave Booney a fair old battle last season and I think he is probably one of the best ball winners in the squad. Could he be the defensive mid? Even if he wins the ball and plays the simple lay offs to the other midfielders. I know he is not that tall, but he is pure muscle and not afraid to get stuck into anyone.

[J-C]

Just drove past Willo Glood in Gorgie Rd, he was crossing the road going to the Costa, is this the standard of players the Orcs are going for or maybe a coaching role.

[Stevie Reid]

Agree with those who aren't totally convinced by Omeonga - I'd happily take him back, very likeable character and a great attitude, but I'm nowhere near as enthused as many on here. That's not to say he couldn't develop into an excellent player though.

Mallan always needs to play for me - potential match winner and a threat from anywhere. 25 years ago he would have been playing in the EPL with the attributes - and limitations - he has.

[J-C]

I'm starting to become concerned that we're doing what we did last year - signing good players but not having a proper team in there.
Not sure it has to be a bruiser but I think you're right that we definitely need someone else in midfield who's job is a little less glamourous.

There are 5 players in that team who will struggle to win the ball back and who we signed primarily to attack the opposition.
All of them are good shouts for the team and it doesn't include Horgan who's been one of the most consistent performers of late.

I think we have good players but an unbalanced squad.
Strength in depth is essential but it needs to be across the board.
Injuries to Vela, Stevenson or Gray and we'd be in trouble.

I think the team will look like this.

Rocky

Gray
McGregor
Hanlon
Stevenson

Allan
Vela
Mallon

Boyle
Kamberi
Horgan

Too many getting overly worked up about a DM midfielder etc, is Scott Brown one? no.

We have a varied type of player in the squad do we can change shape when needed, I'm liking the look of this squad.

[mjhibby]

Still think we need another midfielder and striker in. If we do then I'll be pretty happy

That's the way I see it.

[mjhibby]

Agree with those who aren't totally convinced by Omeonga - I'd happily take him back, very likeable character and a great attitude, but I'm nowhere near as enthused as many on here. That's not to say he couldn't develop into an excellent player though.

Mallan always needs to play for me - potential match winner and a threat from anywhere. 25 years ago he would have been playing in the EPL with the attributes - and limitations - he has.

Omeonga is underappreciated imho. As was said he glides along the ground and links quickly with other player. Not as good as Dylan but makes the opposition hurry their passing which gets us more possession and eases pressure on defence. He's a coaches ideal player and Vela looks the same. If we got him and McNulty or another very good striker I'd fancy us for third.

[Paloschi]

I think the team will look like this.

Rocky

Gray
McGregor
Hanlon
Stevenson

Allan
Vela
Mallon

Boyle
Kamberi
Horgan

In my opinion there is no balance in the side at all and very slow in midfield and in defence. Not aimed at you but what Hecky may go with. I'd go with a 4-2-3-1 but with the exact same lineup with S. Allan as playmaker. I still feel we lack a bit pace.

Marciano

Gray (James)
Porteous
Hanlon
Stevenson

Vela
Mallan

Boyle
Allan
Horgan

Kamberi

Subs: Maxwell, McGregor, Mackie, Newell, Slivka, Doidge, Shaw.
Reserve: Jackson, Campbell, F Murray, Gullan.

I still think, in line with Hecky's comments, 1 more CM.

[Stevie Reid]

Omeonga is underappreciated imho. As was said he glides along the ground and links quickly with other player. Not as good as Dylan but makes the opposition hurry their passing which gets us more possession and eases pressure on defence. He's a coaches ideal player and Vela looks the same. If we got him and McNulty or another very good striker I'd fancy us for third.

I do like him, and would happily have him back. Just wouldn't want us spending a huge chunk of the budget.

[Forza Fred]

I think the team will look like this.

Rocky

Gray
McGregor
Hanlon
Stevenson

Allan
Vela
Mallon

Boyle
Kamberi
Horgan

Too many getting overly worked up about a DM midfielder etc, is Scott Brown one? no.

We have a varied type of player in the squad do we can change shape when needed, I'm liking the look of this squad.

I’m not sure Hecky enticed the English players to Easter Road, just to have most of them sit on the bench.
Can’t se Doidge not being a regular for starters.

[Tug Wilson]

I am not convinced that Heckingbottom wants to play with an out and out defensive midfielder. Suspect he wants players like Vela and Omeonga dare I say it Ojo who are able to mix it but also play a bit.

The players like Allan, Mallan and Newell are going to be the more attacking midfielders with Boyle and Horgan out wide.

If Heckingbottom gets the blend right then we could have a very good midfield that will play fast energetic football.

We will defend as a team, squeezing and hunting in packs.

I will be happy with Omeonga and McNulty being added to the squad plus maybe a couple of loan players to fill in.

[AlbertK86]

I’m not sure Hecky enticed the English players to Easter Road, just to have most of them sit on the bench.
Can’t se Doidge not being a regular for starters.

Totally agree.

No danger he won’t start most of his signings

I reckon James, Jackson, Vela, Allan and Doidge will all be first picks once everyone is bedded in and match fit.

As I’ve said before I very much think it will be horses for courses dependant on who we are playing and who is on form for us.

Marciano

James
Jackson
Hanlon
Stevenson

Vela
Mallan

Boyle
Allan
Horgan

Doidge



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[1620]

In my opinion there is no balance in the side at all and very slow in midfield and in defence. Not aimed at you but what Hecky may go with. I'd go with a 4-2-3-1 but with the exact same lineup with S. Allan as playmaker. I still feel we lack a bit pace.

Marciano

Gray (James)
Porteous
Hanlon
Stevenson

Vela
Mallan

Boyle
Allan
Horgan

Kamberi

Subs: Maxwell, McGregor, Mackie, Newell, Slivka, Doidge, Shaw.
Reserve: Jackson, Campbell, F Murray, Gullan.

I still think, in line with Hecky's comments, 1 more CM.


I agree with the 4-2-3-1 formation.
A lot of the most successful teams utilise it because it is very flexible if played properly ie there is strength in numbers in both defence and attack and the lone striker should never be left isolated.
If Hecky goes that way I think we need another defensive mid to play along side Vela (perhaps Omeonga). Boyle Allan and Horgan would form the next section and Kamberi/ Doidge up front. Mallan I would see as cover for Allan and over the course of a long season I would expect to see Allan/Kamberi and Mallan/Doidge getting plenty 1st team games.

[we are hibs]

No idea why people say things like this. They are completely different players. Mallans range of passing and dead ball ability is much better but Omeonga has much more tenacity and energy.

Because I rate Omeonga more than I do Mallan. Not really that difficult to understand.

[Chefki Kuqi]

Id prefer Mallan behind the striker than Allan, better at shooting. Bring in Omeonga and all we need is a winger IMO, possibly another CB if Efe’s had a change of heart.

[Col2]

Are we still certain Heckingbottom is after omeonga?

[WhileTheChief..]

I think the team will look like this.

Rocky

Gray
McGregor
Hanlon
Stevenson

Allan
Vela
Mallon

Boyle
Kamberi
Horgan

Too many getting overly worked up about a DM midfielder etc, is Scott Brown one? no.

We have a varied type of player in the squad do we can change shape when needed, I'm liking the look of this squad.

If our squad looks like this by the end of the window it's gonna be a long hard season!!

Thankfully it won't be. We've just signed 7 players and you're only giving 1 of them a starting place??!

I think we still need another 3 or 4 in with a goal scoring striker still very much the priority.

[J-C]

In my opinion there is no balance in the side at all and very slow in midfield and in defence. Not aimed at you but what Hecky may go with. I'd go with a 4-2-3-1 but with the exact same lineup with S. Allan as playmaker. I still feel we lack a bit pace.

Marciano

Gray (James)
Porteous
Hanlon
Stevenson

Vela
Mallan

Boyle
Allan
Horgan

Kamberi

Subs: Maxwell, McGregor, Mackie, Newell, Slivka, Doidge, Shaw.
Reserve: Jackson, Campbell, F Murray, Gullan.

I still think, in line with Hecky's comments, 1 more CM.


4-3-2-1/4-3-3/4-5-1 are all interchange and fluid transitions.

I disagree re English players being 1st picks, I think Heckingbottom will choose who's on form and not because they've came up from England.

[Steven79]

Does everybody not realise that three of our new signings are Welsh not English?

[hughio]

Are we still certain Heckingbottom is after omeonga?

No but :pray:

[jacomo]

I’m not sure Hecky enticed the English players to Easter Road, just to have most of them sit on the bench.
Can’t se Doidge not being a regular for starters.


This is the art of management, right here.

No doubt that Hecky saw the opportunity to reshape the squad this summer as a good thing... he made it pretty clear that he was a wee bit unhappy with the attitude and application at the end of last season.

The new signings will present a fresh challenge to the existing players. However, if those players accept the challenge and step up, they should earn their place in the team.

Flo was filling in on the left last season but that really doesn't seem to be his preferred game. I hope him and Doidge are both busting a gut to prove they should be the first choice centre forward.

[The 90+2]

4-3-2-1/4-3-3/4-5-1 are all interchange and fluid transitions.

I disagree re English players being 1st picks, I think Heckingbottom will choose who's on form and not because they've came up from England.

Nothing to do with where they came from, it’s a matter of the players being Heckys signings who would have told them they would play to get them up here.

[tonyrougier123]

Cummings told he is free to find new club.papers source.

[Sean1875]

Just drove past Willo Glood in Gorgie Rd, he was crossing the road going to the Costa, is this the standard of players the Orcs are going for or maybe a coaching role.

This might be a mental thought but maybe he was just passing through Gorgie and fancied a coffee?

[Billy Whizz]

This might be a mental thought but maybe he was just passing through Gorgie and fancied a coffee?

He’s a coach, was doing a few bits and pieces for Hearts Academy last season

[tonyrougier123]

This might be a mental thought but maybe he was just passing through Gorgie and fancied a coffee?

That is mental! If your passing thru gorgie keep passing til your thru. Absolute dive.

[GloryGlory]

Cummings told he is free to find new club.papers source.

Cue meltdown on here! :greengrin

[The 90+2]

Cummings told he is free to find new club.papers source.

Got told this a couple of weeks ago.

I would have him back.

[neil7908]

Got told this a couple of weeks ago.

I would have him back.

Right now I wouldn't. If we're going 4-3-3 (which like it or loath it seems to be the case from pre season) we'll only have one proper forward up front. I can't see Cummings playing that role and it wouldn't make sense to have 4 senior forwards competing for one position.

I'm also not sure he's suited to the mangers style.

[The 90+2]

Right now I wouldn't. If we're going 4-3-3 (which like it or loath it seems to be the case from pre season) we'll only have one proper forward up front. I can't see Cummings playing that role and it wouldn't make sense to have 4 senior forwards competing for one position.

I'm also not sure he's suited to the mangers style.

He’s a fox in the box goalscorer, none of our forwards seem to play that role. JC could play off Doidge or Flo’.

[J-C]

Nothing to do with where they came from, it’s a matter of the players being Heckys signings who would have told them they would play to get them up here.

Nonsense, no one is told they're 1st choice, like any squad, they'll have to earn the right to start. A squad nowadays is regularly rotated to keep it fresh and players keen not to lose their place, competition is good, look at Origi st Liverpool, came in near the end to be a major player when others got injured or lost form.

[SHODAN]

Cummings told he is free to find new club.papers source.

Are we interested though?

I feel as though the Hertz would go after him as a long term replacement for Naismith.

[FilipinoHibs]

That is mental! If your passing thru gorgie keep passing til your thru. Absolute dive.

There is a good Scottish/Filipino restaurant on the edge of Gorgie. No reason to stop in the heart of the hole though.

[Brightside]

Are we still certain Heckingbottom is after omeonga?

100% yes.

[The 90+2]

Nonsense, no one is told they're 1st choice, like any squad, they'll have to earn the right to start. A squad nowadays is regularly rotated to keep it fresh and players keen not to lose their place, competition is good, look at Origi st Liverpool, came in near the end to be a major player when others got injured or lost form.

Of course they won’t be told they are first choice.

You’re trying to tell me managers don’t prefer their own signings over players already at the club? Now that’s rubbish.

[007]

Cummings reportedly being released. I'd be happy to see him come back.

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/ex-hibs-rangers-striker-jason-16606469

[S4uzee]

Cummings reportedly being released. I'd be happy to see him come back.

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/ex-hibs-rangers-striker-jason-16606469

Can see him going to hearts

[Here’s Lucy!]

Cummings reportedly being released. I'd be happy to see him come back.

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/ex-hibs-rangers-striker-jason-16606469

Does anyone know who he supported as a boy?

[HoboHarry]

Cummings reportedly being released. I'd be happy to see him come back.

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/ex-hibs-rangers-striker-jason-16606469
It doesn't actually say he is being released? He has clearly been told he has no future there but they might still be looking to get some kind of fee for him.....

[SHODAN]

Can see him going to hearts

I'd be interested to see who he'd pick if we both offered him the same deal.

[The 90+2]

I'd be interested to see who he'd pick if we both offered him the same deal.

Hibs 100%

[CapitalGreen]

Can see him going to hearts

Cummings is the complete antithesis of a Levein type of signing.

[04Sauzee]

It doesn't actually say he is being released? He has clearly been told he has no future there but they might still be looking to get some kind of fee for him.....

Similar to McNulty at Reading then I'm guessing

[Heisenberg]

Can see him going to hearts

I don’t think he’s a Levein player. He’ll end up at St Johnstone or something like that.

[tonyrougier123]

There is a good Scottish/Filipino restaurant on the edge of Gorgie. No reason to stop in the heart of the hole though.

Never tried filipino grub.might gee that a bash.👍

[Northernhibee]

This may well be why Hecky has said we are only after a CM. We say we are after a striker and Forest want a few for him.

On a free, 100% I would want him back.

[GloryGlory]

It doesn't actually say he is being released? He has clearly been told he has no future there but they might still be looking to get some kind of fee for him.....

How long does he have on his contract? Because he could just sit tight and keep getting paid. He would probably need to move to a club that won't match his wages, so Forest may have to offer him a pay off to get him off the books.

[Here’s Lucy!]

I'd be interested to see who he'd pick if we both offered him the same deal.

I’d bet good money on it being Hibs.

[tonyrougier123]

He’s a fox in the box goalscorer, none of our forwards seem to play that role. JC could play off Doidge or Flo’.

👍 agreed.defo the type we need,on a free! would be superb foil for doidge.big man wee man.knows the club,and would be good for sqaud morale.and kamberi tae.uptop would be complete.

[SHODAN]

Cummings would be great foil for Kamberi and Doidge. I'd prefer him to McNulty, especially if Reading are being difficult.

[The 90+2]

How long does he have on his contract? Because he could just sit tight and keep getting paid. He would probably need to move to a club that won't match his wages, so Forest may have to offer him a pay off to get him off the books.

He has a year left and it’s looking like a payoff.

[BegbieHSC]

Cummings reportedly being released. I'd be happy to see him come back.

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/ex-hibs-rangers-striker-jason-16606469

I loved him when he was here.

Wouldn’t take him now. 1. Kamberi is considerably better. 2. If he did well, and there was the remotest bit of interest from Sevco, he’d kick off to go back to those hun ****bags. 3. His agent is a ****. Mind his comments last year?

[GloryGlory]

I loved him when he was here.

Wouldn’t take him now. 1. Kamberi is considerably better. 2. If he did well, and there was the remotest bit of interest from Sevco, he’d kick off to go back to those hun ****bags. 3. His agent is a ****. Mind his comments last year?

4. He's never really proved himself at premier league level. His spell with The Rangers was eminently forgettable.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Guaranteed to score a ton against us if he was to sign for them

Get him back just to stop that

[SHODAN]

I loved him when he was here.

Wouldn’t take him now. 1. Kamberi is considerably better. 2. If he did well, and there was the remotest bit of interest from Sevco, he’d kick off to go back to those hun ****bags. 3. His agent is a ****. Mind his comments last year?

1. Imagine a Kamberi and Cummings partnership.
2. We don't sell to Rangers and Gerrard won't want him after he failed there first time.
3. Many of them are. So?

Bring him home.

[Gloucester Hibs]

Guaranteed to score a ton against us if he was to sign for them

Get him back just to stop that

This. Also, he’s better than Shaw

[The 90+2]

I loved him when he was here.

Wouldn’t take him now. 1. Kamberi is considerably better. 2. If he did well, and there was the remotest bit of interest from Sevco, he’d kick off to go back to those hun ****bags. 3. His agent is a ****. Mind his comments last year?

1) they are different types of player and Jason has done much more in a Hibs top than Kamberi.
2) if he did well enough to drum up interest then he’s succeeding and would get us another transfer fee.
3) I’m not really bothered who represents him.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

Marciano

Porteous
McGregor
Hanlon

Boyle
Allan
Vela
Mallan/Slivka
Stevenson

Doidge/Kamberi
Cummings

[J-C]

Of course they won’t be told they are first choice.

You’re trying to tell me managers don’t prefer their own signings over players already at the club? Now that’s rubbish.

If he doesn't fancy any of the players already here, they'd be shown the door by now. Very quick to move Bartley and Milligan on this window.

You cannot show preferential treatment in a squad game, he'll have his 15-18 main 1st team squad players with 3-4 youngsters to fill out the squad.

[The 90+2]

4. He's never really proved himself at premier league level. His spell with The Rangers was eminently forgettable.

He’s scored tons of goals against premier league level sides.

[The 90+2]

If he doesn't fancy any of the players already here, they'd be shown the door by now. Very quick to move Bartley and Milligan on this window.

You cannot show preferential treatment in a squad game, he'll have his 15-18 main 1st team squad players with 3-4 youngsters to fill out the squad.

You can’t show the door to players on good money on long contracts. Bartley and Milligan ran out of contract.

He would have identified positions he thought was weak and brought players in to fit into the roles, at least I would hope that’s what he was doing instead of bringing in competition for places to a squad that finished 5th last season.

[J-C]

Does anyone know who he supported as a boy?

Massive Hearts fan as are his whole family but they treated him like **** when he got injured, I'd think he'd choose us before them.

[Barman Stanton]

Kamberi

Porteous
McGregor
Hanlon

Boyle
Allan
Vela
Mallan/Slivka
Stevenson

Doidge/Kamberi
Cummings

I like Kamberi but not sure I would play him in goals.

[J-C]

You can’t show the door to players on good money on long contracts. Bartley and Milligan ran out of contract.

He would have identified positions he thought was weak and brought players in to fit into the roles, at least I would hope that’s what he was doing instead of bringing in competition for places to a squad that finished 5th last season.

Let's look at his players.

Maxwell, decent but backup to Rocky.
James, still young but good cover for Gray.
Jackson, decent quality and will push for a starting spot.
Newell, decent quality but about the same as Horgan.
Doidge, good stats but at a lower level, Kamberi is the better player, decent cover.

[Here’s Lucy!]

Massive Hearts fan as are his whole family but they treated him like **** when he got injured, I'd think he'd choose us before them.

Thanks.:aok:

Didn't know any of that. Pretty sure, in that case, he would choose to come back to Hibs.

[The 90+2]

Let's look at his players.

Maxwell, decent but backup to Rocky.
James, still young but good cover for Gray.
Jackson, decent quality and will push for a starting spot.
Newell, decent quality but about the same as Horgan.
Doidge, good stats but at a lower level, Kamberi is the better player, decent cover.

So what’s he playing at then not signing players he thinks are better than the current squad?

[Cocaine&Caviar]

I like Kamberi but not sure I would play him in goals.

Haha woops

[The 90+2]

Massive Hearts fan as are his whole family but they treated him like **** when he got injured, I'd think he'd choose us before them.

I thought everyone kent the JC story and background.

[Weir07]

Cummings is the complete antithesis of a Levein type of signing.

Very true and nicely put, can't see that kind of phraseology on Follow Follow somehow!

As for Cummings, I'd take him back in a minute, proven goalscorer in Scotland, feel he would comfortably be Hibs top goalscorer if he signed.

[SHODAN]

4. He's never really proved himself at premier league level. His spell with The Rangers was eminently forgettable.

5 goals against Hearts
8 goals against Rangers
5 goals against Dundee United
10 goals against Falkirk (arguably the best non-Edinburgh/Rangers second tier team this century)
4 goals against St Mirren
2 goals against Livingston
1 goal against Aberdeen & St Johnstone

Have Kamberi or McNulty (or even Maclaren) managed that?

[MyJo]

Cummings is a F***y.

But he is our, Scottish cup winning, F***y.

Scott Allan didn't cover himself in glory when he tried to engineer a move to Rangers in his first stint with us leading many people to say the same kind of stuff about him when he came back on loan that is being said about Cummings now.

Like Allan, if he comes back older and wiser from things not working as expected he would be welcomed back with open arms from me.

[J-C]

So what’s he playing at then not signing players he thinks are better than the current squad?

Probably money, our big problem last season was balance in the squad and short on numbers when we got injuries. To get better players we need to spend more, we had a decent core last season but struggled when we lost players.

Efe at RB, Horgan in the hole and Flo out on the left said it all.

[Ozyhibby]

Stick with Shaw. He’s going to score 15 this season and more next.


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[Inconsequential]

I like Kamberi but not sure I would play him in goals. Doidge would be a better pick as keeper with his experience of playing basketball similar to our former keeper Oli Gottskalksson… then again maybe not.

[B.H.F.C]

Stick with Shaw. He’s going to score 15 this season and more next.


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I don’t think he’ll start 15 games, never mind score 15 goals.

Hope to be proved wrong of course.

[Barman Stanton]

Doidge would be a better pick as keeper with his experience of playing basketball similar to our former keeper Oli Gottskalksson… then again maybe not.

Oli the Goalie. There is a blast from the past. Sure he did a runner from a club down south instead of giving a drug sample. Banned I think.

[Iggy Pope]

Much as I’m loathe to criticise any of our younger players.
At the recent Newcastle friendly Oli Shaw and Fraser Murray had the most first team appearances amongst those on the pitch and by some distance. The concern was that you wouldn’t really have known this going by their involvement. Friendly, at East Mains so not big time. But I’m expecting a bit more.

[Iggy Pope]

5 goals against Hearts
8 goals against Rangers
5 goals against Dundee United
10 goals against Falkirk (arguably the best non-Edinburgh/Rangers second tier team this century)
4 goals against St Mirren
2 goals against Livingston
1 goal against Aberdeen & St Johnstone

Have Kamberi or McNulty (or even Maclaren) managed that?

Kamberi has more top flight goals than Jason Cummings no matter how you choose to spin it.

[bigswissstriker]

Would take JC back but he’s in the same boat as mcnulty for me. If we are gonna have to break the bank for them then I wouldn’t do it. Both good players but not overly bothered if either came back or no

[Inconsequential]

Oli the Goalie. There is a blast from the past. Sure he did a runner from a club down south instead of giving a drug sample. Banned I think. He also has convictions for housebreaking and violence and driving under the influence with a minor in the car. Has served time!

[supermcginn]

Stick with Shaw. He’s going to score 15 this season and more next.


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No danger. He's away on loan as soon as we sign another forward.

[Since452]

I'm on the fence with Cummings. Loves a goal against Hearts and Sevco and he'd be brilliant in the dressing room but not sure he has what it takes to do it consistently at this level. Remember him being right off the boil in the Championship at times. If i had to give an answer I'd probably say yes. Easter Road might just bring out the best in him again. He's better than Shaw for me.

[MrRobot]

Dont want Cummings back, would rather McNulty.

[SHODAN]

Kamberi has more top flight goals than Jason Cummings no matter how you choose to spin it.

That's fine, but Kamberi has one goal (a penalty) in six derbies while Cummings has five in nine - arguably the most difficult game for a Hibs player to perform in.

[percy veer]

That's fine, but Kamberi has one goal (a penalty) in six derbies while Cummings has five in nine - arguably the most difficult game for a Hibs player to perform in.

Cummings for me would be our main man and end up top goalscorer easily, have a feeling hed choose hearts likes being controversial and seeing as how some hibs fans treat him cant blame him.

[660]

Cummings for me would be our main man and end up top goalscorer easily, have a feeling hed choose hearts likes being controversial and seeing as how some hibs fans treat him cant blame him.

How have some hibs fans treated him?!?!

[Heisenberg]

How have some hibs fans treated him?!?!

Some big bad men booed him when he played for the huns. His agent took a right wee strop over it.

I would definitely have him back at Hibs if McNulty is going to be too expensive.

Just had a look and Barnsley were apparently interested in Cummings when Hecky was their manager in 2017....

[The 90+2]

Some big bad men booed him when he played for the huns. His agent took a right wee strop over it.

I would definitely have him back at Hibs if McNulty is going to be too expensive.

You got a link to the agent strop please?

[Heisenberg]

You got a link to the agent strop please?

It was on Instagram or twitter. Can’t mind which one. I’ll have a look but doubt I’ll be able to find it now.

[The 90+2]

It was on Instagram or twitter. Can’t mind which one. I’ll have a look but doubt I’ll be able to find it now.

Cool thanks 👍

[oldbutdim]

I think he's referring to SJM who said when he joined AV that he ran like he was chasing a helicopter.

Helicopter legs is a new one on me though, but I once knew a lass who might have merited that nickname. :wink:


SJM. Self explanatory really!



Thanks chaps.

Never heard of Meatball having a nickname.





It was on Instagram or twitter. Can’t mind which one. I’ll have a look but doubt I’ll be able to find it now.

His agent Alan Houldsworth is also his business partner in a sports clothing venture.
He is a diehard Hun and comes across as a bit of a plum. Not an unusual combination.

[JohnMcM]

Cummings is the complete antithesis of a Levein type of signing.


I bet Google took a hammering with that one being searched on.

:flag:

[shamo9]

Some big bad men booed him when he played for the huns. His agent took a right wee strop over it.

I would definitely have him back at Hibs if McNulty is going to be too expensive.

Just had a look and Barnsley were apparently interested in Cummings when Hecky was their manager in 2017....

When he was subbed off in the 5-5 match he was quietly applauded by a fair few Hibs fans. Cummings actually acknowledged this and returned the applause. I'm not suggesting he didn't get abuse from some but it wasn't universal and that speaks volume. He probably anticipated a lot worse!

[HoboHarry]

I bet Google took a hammering with that one being searched on.

:flag:
No in ma hoose it didnae - I ken loads o big wurds......

[Speedway]

Silly laddie.

Stupid tatts

Not that great a footballer.

Great goalscorer.

Bring him in.

[BoyledEgg]

It was on Instagram or twitter. Can’t mind which one. I’ll have a look but doubt I’ll be able to find it now.

It was on Twitter. He has a go at Hibs any chance he gets, the guy is a buffoon.

[JohnMcM]

Stick with Shaw. He’s going to score 15 this season and more next.


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On the same song-sheet as you with that. I do believe he has it in him.

:flag:

[Here’s Lucy!]

I bet Google took a hammering with that one being searched on.

:flag:


:faf::faf:

Not here, but I bet you’re right!

[The 90+2]

On the same song-sheet as you with that. I do believe he has it in him.

:flag:

Sticking with Shaw ahead of Cummings would be madness.

[cmcd]

That's fine, but Kamberi has one goal (a penalty) in six derbies while Cummings has five in nine - arguably the most difficult game for a Hibs player to perform in.

Not if you're name is Joe Baker

[Last Minute]

Hibs, bring in home for gods sake. The guy is a goal scorer and a guy with a bit of attitude exactly what we need up front.



BRING HIM HOME HIBS.


GGTTH:flag:

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Cummings free to find a new club...surely we should be bringing him home before hearts grab him

[King Cosell]

The last thing our dressing room needs right now is Jason Cummings' banter. That Cumdog wrestling thing? No, no, no. I'd tolerate it if he was Marco van Basten, but he's not that good, and he's only got one leg.

[The Spaceman]

The last thing our dressing room needs right now is Jason Cummings' banter. That Cumdog wrestling thing? No, no, no. I'd tolerate it if he was Marco van Basten, but he's not that good, and he's only got one leg.

I was under the impression he was very popular in the dressing room last time round?

Although caveat there is he was able to play "daft young laddie"...not sure he would get away with that as much now.

[Greenworld]

The last thing our dressing room needs right now is Jason Cummings' banter. That Cumdog wrestling thing? No, no, no. I'd tolerate it if he was Marco van Basten, but he's not that good, and he's only got one leg.You know king that's was my initial thinking do the club need the hassle that he has been bringing on himself at loan clubs.
However the other bit of me is reminded that he is or at least was a great goalscorer
I'm not sure he fits in with the type of character the club wants now .

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[CallumLaidlaw]

The last thing our dressing room needs right now is Jason Cummings' banter. That Cumdog wrestling thing? No, no, no. I'd tolerate it if he was Marco van Basten, but he's not that good, and he's only got one leg.

The one thing our team NEEDS is some character and swagger. We’ve lost a bit of that with the departures of Cummings, Mcginn, Bartley


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[CloudSquall]

If he would be interested in coming back it would be a no brainer for me.

I think he'd thrive with the supply from Allan, Horgan, Mallan and Boyle and for those questioning his character I'd counter that with my opinion that his cockiness helped immensely in turning around our derby mentality.

[Peevemor]

I was under the impression he was very popular in the dressing room last time round?

Although caveat there is he was able to play "daft young laddie"...not sure he would get away with that as much now.

Others may know better, but I was never aware of any criticism of Cummings in training or his behaviour in and around ER/EM.

On the pitch he always worked hard, he never stopped running, even when things weren't happening for him or the team.

As for being a bam that's fine by me. The world needs more bams. And he's still only 23.

Whether PH fancies him is a different story, but I'd have him back on a 1 year contract with an option to extend.

[The 90+2]

The last thing our dressing room needs right now is Jason Cummings' banter. That Cumdog wrestling thing? No, no, no. I'd tolerate it if he was Marco van Basten, but he's not that good, and he's only got one leg.

Why is it the “last thing it needs”? Cummings would be a great addition to the dressing room.

[The 90+2]

Others may know better, but I was never aware of any criticism of Cummings in training or his behaviour in and around ER/EM.

On the pitch he always worked hard, he never stopped running, even when things weren't happening for him or the team.

As for being a bam that's fine by me. The world needs more bams. And he's still only 23.

Whether PH fancies him is a different story, but I'd have him back on a 1 year contract with an option to extend.

100% this.

[Iain G]

If he would be interested in coming back it would be a no brainer for me.

I think he'd thrive with the supply from Allan, Horgan, Mallan and Boyle and for those questioning his character I'd counter that with my opinion that his cockiness helped immensely in turning around our derby mentality.

He is not good enough and his wandering wayward career post Hibs hardly warrants the clamour to get him back. He will end up at Dundee United probably.

[Aldo]

I’d take him back but I’d want McNulty too cos I’m greedy..... Shaw out on loan


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[The 90+2]

He is not good enough and his wandering wayward career post Hibs hardly warrants the clamour to get him back. He will end up at Dundee United probably.

I’m not sure how he isn’t good enough when he clearly was before we gained £1m for him?

[thegaffer12]

Cummings has said in the past he doesn't want to come back to Edinburgh, based on social media rumours that came about during his time here. I wouldn't get any hopes up.

[SMAXXA]

He will stay down south and get a deal there and won’t amount to much imo cup winning legend will always be thankful for the job he did at Hibs good luck to the lad but don’t expect him back to Hibs anytime soon

[Chefki Kuqi]

He was a goalscorer in the Scottish Championship, nowhere else. He’s not worth bringing back, we have, and can get, better.

[ahibby]

He was a goalscorer in the Scottish Championship, nowhere else. He’s not worth bringing back, we have, and can get, better.

Agree and woumdnt touch him with a barge pole

[SouthMoroccoStu]

He was a goalscorer in the Scottish Championship, nowhere else. He’s not worth bringing back, we have, and can get, better.

Not picking on you Chefki Kuqi

Goals against Hamilton (ok in the playoffs but they became a premiership team)
Goal against Aberdeen (top of the table at the time)
Goal against St Johnstone (semi final penalty- cool as you like)
Dundee United - winner in the shoot out (after a hash brown in normal time)
Plenty against Hearts and Rangers (ok in the championship at the time but arguably better than 2/3 of the top flight at the time)

The lad knows where the net is, you can’t deny that

Sadly stunted his development but there’s definitely a goal threat there

On a free, we would easily get money from him for another crack down south

Do I have to remind some on here he’s a SCOTTISH CUP WINNER?!?

[hhibs]

Not if you're name is Joe Baker

Yes,indeed,the great man !

[Chefki Kuqi]

Not picking on you Chefki Kuqi

Goals against Hamilton (ok in the playoffs but they became a premiership team)
Goal against Aberdeen (top of the table at the time)
Goal against St Johnstone (semi final penalty- cool as you like)
Dundee United - winner in the shoot out (after a hash brown in normal time)
Plenty against Hearts and Rangers (ok in the championship at the time but arguably better than 2/3 of the top flight at the time)

The lad knows where the net is, you can’t deny that

Sadly stunted his development but there’s definitely a goal threat there

On a free, we would easily get money from him for another crack down south

Do I have to remind some on here he’s a SCOTTISH CUP WINNER?!?

Thats fair, I had forgotten that he’d scored against some SPL level teams in that period. I still don’t think he’s any better than what we have or can get and my other contention is that he seems to have regressed since he was here.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Thats fair, I had forgotten that he’d scored against some SPL level teams in that period. I still don’t think he’s any better than what we have or can get and my other contention is that he seems to have regressed since he was here.

Promise I wasn’t singling out you pal

If he was on £20k a week he’ll have lofty ambitions (that we can’t match) but theirs definitely a talent there!

[The Leith Dutch]

Not picking on you Chefki Kuqi

Goals against Hamilton (ok in the playoffs but they became a premiership team)
Goal against Aberdeen (top of the table at the time)
Goal against St Johnstone (semi final penalty- cool as you like)
Dundee United - winner in the shoot out (after a hash brown in normal time)
Plenty against Hearts and Rangers (ok in the championship at the time but arguably better than 2/3 of the top flight at the time)

The lad knows where the net is, you can’t deny that

Sadly stunted his development but there’s definitely a goal threat there

On a free, we would easily get money from him for another crack down south

Do I have to remind some on here he’s a SCOTTISH CUP WINNER?!?

He scored some goals against SPL teams but the fact remains that, career wise, most of his scoring was done at championship level.

As for the Scottish Cup Winner -
So was Conrad Logan.
He was brilliant in that run but that doesn't mean we should be trying to bring him back.

Nothing against Cummings and wouldn't have a problem with him being back but the historical arguments don't stack up to anything other than a gamble.

[Iggy Pope]

That's fine, but Kamberi has one goal (a penalty) in six derbies while Cummings has five in nine - arguably the most difficult game for a Hibs player to perform in.

It is fine, and you’ve trawled out lots of stats about Jason scoring against the likes of Falkirk (while somehow talking them up to something they are basically not) and otherwise, Championship sides. We all know he got goals against the top sides when we were down. Love him for it.
Kamberi has more top flight goals. He’s ONLY got top flight goals for us. And in Europe. If it’s only about Hertz games maybe the obsession thing is getting bigger than we thought.

[SMAXXA]

Is the obvious question about JC not more about what he’s like as a person more than a footballer? I can’t help but think that plays a part on peoples opinions?

[K-Zazu]

Cummings and Doidge up front would be a handful

[truehibernian]

Is the obvious question about JC not more about what he’s like as a person more than a footballer? I can’t help but think that plays a part on peoples opinions?

I think much like Scott Allan, some clubs are a good fit for a player and we are good for Jason. Has a great friendship with SA and a few of the lads still at the club too. He's drifting down there and needs to come back, focus on playing, and scoring goals - one thing he is great at is scoring all types of goals.

I'd have him back purely to see him with Doidge - good potential there. McNulty, Doidge, Shaw and Cummings would be :aok:

[B.H.F.C]

I think much like Scott Allan, some clubs are a good fit for a player and we are good for Jason. Has a great friendship with SA and a few of the lads still at the club too. He's drifting down there and needs to come back, focus on playing, and scoring goals - one thing he is great at is scoring all types of goals.

I'd have him back purely to see him with Doidge - good potential there. McNulty, Doidge, Shaw and Cummings would be :aok:

The bit about scoring all types of goals is often overlooked IMO.

He got plenty tap ins, plenty headers despite his size and could bang one in from 20 yards as well.

I think he’d do all right for us if playing in a two. Don’t expect to see him back here though.

[truehibernian]

The bit about scoring all types of goals is often overlooked IMO.

He got plenty tap ins, plenty headers despite his size and could bang one in from 20 yards as well.

I think he’d do all right for us if playing in a two. Don’t expect to see him back here though.

He's as natural a goal scorer I've seen since Derek BHFC..........doesn't have the natural god given talent DR had but he's a player that always got me off my seat when he picked the ball up near the box.

[Tug Wilson]

Firstly, I am not that great a fan of Jason Cummings. He is a goal scorer but tends to add little else. He is a bit greedy. Can't play up front on his own but struggles to strike up a partnership.

However if we were to sell Kamberi and then use that to fund bringing in McNulty and Cummings then I think that it would good business.

I believe that Heckingbottom could teach JC the more tactical elements that he needs to be a better player.

[Leith Green]

Never rated him that much to be honest. I always felt he would struggle at forest and that exactly what happened.

[ian cruise]

I was under the impression he was very popular in the dressing room last time round?

Although caveat there is he was able to play "daft young laddie"...not sure he would get away with that as much now.

McCoist got away with it his while career, plenty others too. Being a bit gallus and immature often works well for strikers.

[J-C]

I’m not sure how he isn’t good enough when he clearly was before we gained £1m for him?

We got £500k for him.

[GreenCastle]

Bring him back!

We need a poacher and he also loved scoring against our neighbours.

Would be an upgrade on Shaw.

[Allant1981]

We got £500k for him.

Was it even as much as that?

[mentalhibee]

Bring the Cumdog back!

[tonyrougier123]

When cummings left I felt ok about it.but he is a big game striker who pops one in in the big games.we might be lacking that and probably since he left infact.
Handful for any team.unorthodox which makes him hard to defend against.raw and releases others from marking.I.e kamberi,alan,boyle.imagine they three with a moment to think on the ball.

[J-C]

Was it even as much as that?

Yep, buy out clause, the new deal was only signed because if it, got us up and then off he went for £10kpw. I posted a few weeks before it happened on the PM board as I'm pally with his dad.

[Last Minute]

We got £500k for him.

We got a lot more than that I can tell you. [emoji6]


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[supermcginn]

McCoist got away with it his while career, plenty others too. Being a bit gallus and immature often works well for strikers.
Can't compare mccoist to cummings lol jason couldnt lace his boots.

[007]

Yep, buy out clause, the new deal was only signed because if it, got us up and then off he went for £10kpw. I posted a few weeks before it happened on the PM board as I'm pally with his dad.

Drop his Dad a message saying Jason needs to tell his agent to get on the blower to George Craig.

[RossScott1991]

Taking JC back would be a no brainer imo. Big personality, perfect partner for likes of Doidge. Scores against Hearts. If it is free transfer I’d rather take that than pay a fee for Mcnulty tbh.

Bring him home hibs.

[Hermit Crab]

Drop his Dad a message saying Jason needs to tell his agent to get on the blower to George Craig.


I'm sure the club will be well aware of Cummings situation with Forest.

[007]

I'm sure the club will be well aware of Cummings situation with Forest.

I'm sure they are too.

[Hermit Crab]

I'm sure they are too.


PH might not fancy Cummings. His off the field antics when he was down South are less than complimentary to him.

[The 90+2]

PH might not fancy Cummings. His off the field antics when he was down South are less than complimentary to him.

As pointed out, Barnsley was linked to him when Hecky was the manager there.

[007]

PH might not fancy Cummings. His off the field antics when he was down South are less than complimentary to him.

You may well be right and I wouldn't blame him for steering clear for those reasons. As someone else said earlier, sometimes a club & player are just a good fit for each other and I think Cummings and Hibs fall into that category.

Hopefully JC has grown up a bit and realises he needs to work on his all round game. I can see PH as being just the type of head coach that can get the best out of him and help him improve. I think it was the same poster who said 12 month deal with the option to extend. That sounds like a sensible proposition to me.

[Hibernian32]

I would take JC back.

I'd imagine it would be us,hearts possibly Aberdeen, maybe even Dundee united trying to get him.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Bring the laddie home

[Iggy Pope]

Yep, buy out clause, the new deal was only signed because if it, got us up and then off he went for £10kpw. I posted a few weeks before it happened on the PM board as I'm pally with his dad.

****ing yaaaaaaawn. He’s the Hun dad right? Did his dad tell you he would end up at Ibroke as well? (BTW if you’re reading this, Jason’s dad, hiya pal!, hiya!)

[DetroitHibs]

****ing yaaaaaaawn. He’s the Hun dad right? Did his dad tell you he would end up at Ibroke as well? (BTW if you’re reading this, Jason’s dad, hiya pal!, hiya!)


:rolleyes:

[Fergos]

McCoist got away with it his while career, plenty others too. Being a bit gallus and immature often works well for strikers.

Totally. In an age of the sterile, mundane, lack of character footballer types JC is a likeable throwback.

I’d have him back but not as first choice and he won’t want that.

GGTTH

[CMurdoch]

I would take JC back.

I'd imagine it would be us,hearts possibly Aberdeen, maybe even Dundee united trying to get him.

Can't see Aberdeen being interested.
Leave the laddie down south to earn the final year of his big money contract.
Perhaps bring him back to Hibs on loan in the January window and if he does well offer him a contract.
Slowly slowly catches the monkey.

[Hibernian32]

Can't see Aberdeen being interested.
Leave the laddie down south to earn the final year of his big money contract.
Perhaps bring him back to Hibs on loan in the January window and if he does well offer him a contract.
Slowly slowly catches the monkey.
Just thinking they released May didn't they? And if jase was free got a feeling the club's I mentioned would be interested.

[J-C]

****ing yaaaaaaawn. He’s the Hun dad right? Did his dad tell you he would end up at Ibroke as well? (BTW if you’re reading this, Jason’s dad, hiya pal!, hiya!)


I've known his dad since he was 21, I gave him his 1st job driving taxi's, he and his family are all massive Jambo's. I picked him up about the Hun crap when I seen him soon after, he just shrugged his shoulders and said it is what it is, all part of the press nonsense. He'll be nowhere near this site and no he never told me about his Ibrox move, I hadn't seen him prior to that move.

Looking forward to your next belly laugh of a response, your wit is legendary.

[leithsansiro]

Firstly, I am not that great a fan of Jason Cummings. He is a goal scorer but tends to add little else. He is a bit greedy. Can't play up front on his own but struggles to strike up a partnership.

However if we were to sell Kamberi and then use that to fund bringing in McNulty and Cummings then I think that it would good business.

I believe that Heckingbottom could teach JC the more tactical elements that he needs to be a better player.

I think part of Jason’s issues in not really developing at Forest or anywhere else since leaving us is that he’s actually tactically very limited. He’s a good goal scorer and works off instinct, but struggles beyond that. I think PH wouldn’t be much use to him, because I genuinely believe Jason doesn’t take on board tactical instruction anyway. Fairly certain that’s why he’s bombed everywhere else.

That said, I do like and respect everything he achieved here. I just think that we’d end up disappointed. It’s a bit like arranging a date with a former girlfriend, only to find she’s not as pretty as you remember...

[Just Jimmy]

Cummings > Shaw.

therefore worth it.

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[McIntosh]

I have only met Jason Cumming's once and this was a few weeks ago. I asked him directly where he saw himself going, he was very hostile against going to Aberdeen. Very hostile. He was in rapture of Rangers, which I thought was his preferred choice, though he did not come out and say it. He was very clear that he thought he had been treated poorly by Hearts but would not rule out a move. When I asked him about Hibs, his reply I thought was wise, he said some clubs and players fitted and that he thoughts Hibs style of play suited him.

[jacomo]

Cummings > Shaw.

therefore worth it.

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I’m genuinely not sure about that.

Of course Cummings was the faster developer. We signed him as a prospect but the 17 year just scored too many goals to leave out the team.

But Shaw scores goals as well and is still young. I hope he stays in our squad this season... but we do need another striker.

[Franck Stanton]

For what he would cost in possible (transfer) fee and wage, I don't think we could attract anyone better for the same money. Proven goal scorer in Scottish Football & with either Doidge or Flo as a strike partner think he would do well

[CMurdoch]

Just thinking they released May didn't they? And if jase was free got a feeling the club's I mentioned would be interested.

Notts Forest have given up on Cummings and want him to **** off rather than pay him £10k per week for the next year..
However, nobody else is willing to pay Jason similar money because he is at best a £3k per week player and his loan spells have been a failure.
Accordingly he will remain at Forest for the last year of his contract and collect circa £500k.
That is unless Forest will pay him a good percentage of the remainder of his contract.

Lets say Hibs are happy to pay Forest £100k and to give Jason a £3k a week contract.
That leaves Jason down £7k a week for this season which is circa £350k.
Forest then offer Jason £250k to GTF which he accepts to get playing football again.
Jason now down £100k on the deal and Forest £150k down but a lot better off than the the scenario were Jason stays for the final year of his contract.
Time as usual will tell.

Similarly Aberdeen have given up on May and similarly young Mr May has a very nice contract which is well beyond his playing worth.
He is hanging on like a bear for the pay off before trundling back to St Johnstone.
His appalling injury at Preston has robbed him of his edge and sadly a very average career will now be played out.
Aberdeen made a massive mistake signing the kid after that injury (circa £300k transfer and contract to match).
Ouch! Ouch! Ouch!

[stuart-farquhar]

I've known his dad since he was 21, I gave him his 1st job driving taxi's, he and his family are all massive Jambo's. I picked him up about the Hun crap when I seen him soon after, he just shrugged his shoulders and said it is what it is, all part of the press nonsense. He'll be nowhere near this site and no he never told me about his Ibrox move, I hadn't seen him prior to that move.

Looking forward to your next belly laugh of a response, your wit is legendary.

Massive as in fat and well......overweight?

[jacomo]

Notts Forest have given up on Cummings and want him to **** off rather than pay him £10k per week for the next year..
However, nobody else is willing to pay Jason similar money because he is at best a £3k per week player and his loan spells have been a failure.
Accordingly he will remain at Forest for the last year of his contract and collect circa £500k.
That is unless Forest will pay him a good percentage of the remainder of his contract.

Lets say Hibs are happy to pay Forest £100k and to give Jason a £3k a week contract.
That leaves Jason down £7k a week for this season which is circa £350k.
Forest then offer Jason £250k to GTF which he accepts to get playing football again.
Jason now down £100k on the deal and Forest £150k down but a lot better off than the the scenario were Jason stays for the final year of his contract.
Time as usual will tell

Similarly Aberdeen have given up on May and similarly young Mr May has a very nice contract which is well beyond his playing worth.
He is hanging on like a bear for the pay off before trundling back to St Johnstone.
His appalling injury at Preston has robbed him of his edge and sadly a very average career will now be played out.
Aberdeen made a massive mistake signing the kid (circa £400k transfer and contract to match). Ouch!


Stevie May at St J was a fine player.

He seems a shadow of his former self.

[K-Zazu]

Stevie May at St J was a fine player.

He seems a shadow of his former self.

Really bad injury never recovered from it

[The_Horde]

If JC hadn't played for hibs he'd be getting the same treatment most of Heckys signings have had so far from most.

He's done. Be pairing up with Goodwillie in the lower leagues in 2 years.

[CMurdoch]

Really bad injury never recovered from it

It was a horrific knee ligament injury.
Didn't play for 15 months.

Almost 4 years has now passed since the injury and the pre injury Stevie May isn't coming back.

[Inconsequential]

I’m genuinely not sure about that.

Of course Cummings was the faster developer. We signed him as a prospect but the 17 year just scored too many goals to leave out the team.

But Shaw scores goals as well and is still young. I hope he stays in our squad this season... but we do need another striker. Cummings iirc didn't score any goals in the Premiership until the play-offs against Hamilton. Oli Shaw has and is learning his trade in the Premiership. Cummings hasn't really had a prolonged spell in the top division only a so-so period with the Huns.

[The 90+2]

We have a percentage of his next transfer secured which will work in our favour if we want him back. If it’s undisclosed to say hearts we will still be due a percentage of that.

I think the way it’s panning out and how he’s being touted up here for the last few weeks, Jason will sign for us and switch the sell on in the future. Forest would rather deal with us for that reason.

[007]

I have only met Jason Cumming's once and this was a few weeks ago. I asked him directly where he saw himself going, he was very hostile against going to Aberdeen. Very hostile. He was in rapture of Rangers, which I thought was his preferred choice, though he did not come out and say it. He was very clear that he thought he had been treated poorly by Hearts but would not rule out a move. When I asked him about Hibs, his reply I thought was wise, he said some clubs and players fitted and that he thoughts Hibs style of play suited him.

Gerrard chose not to extend Cummings' time there which suggests he doesn't rate him, so it would be a surprise if he ends up there.

[Forza Fred]

Cummings free to find a new club...surely we should be bringing him home before hearts grab him

I think that is where he’ll end up.

[Captain Trips]

If he is on 10kpw I know we are not going to pay that and I wouldn't want us to. Depending on his offers we would still likely have to give him a pretty hefty wage and IMO I would rather we take a punt at a different option.

[Ozyhibby]

We have a percentage of his next transfer secured which will work in our favour if we want him back. If it’s undisclosed to say hearts we will still be due a percentage of that.

I think the way it’s panning out and how he’s being touted up here for the last few weeks, Jason will sign for us and switch the sell on in the future. Forest would rather deal with us for that reason.

It will only be a percentage of any profit and they are not going to make a profit on him.


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[southsider]

I think that is where he’ll end up.

Hibs are ‘interested’ but a another player will have to leave first.

[GreenCastle]

Hibs are ‘interested’ but a another player will have to leave first.

Some teams just suit players - Hibs and Cummings are made for each other. The sooner he realises that the better.

Bring him home and he WILL score goals - he may not start every game but he is still a natural finisher.

[Since90+2]

Allan and Cummings worked well together before.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Some teams just suit players - Hibs and Cummings are made for each other. The sooner he realises that the better.

Bring him home and he WILL score goals - he may not start every game but he is still a natural finisher.

This.

Don't get this "unproven at SPFL level" chat. Jason has scored goals whenever he has faced teams from the Premier division in a Hibs shirt. He would score plenty for us in the Prem with Scotty Allan and others slotting him in.

We should be doing everything to get him back IMO

[BILLYHIBS]

God on high
Hear my prayer
He is young
He is only a boy
Bring him home
Bring him home
Bring him home


:greengrin

[Hibs90]

If it came down to Cummings or McNulty on 3 year deals who would you choose?

I'd take Cummings..

[Heisenberg]

If it came down to Cummings or McNulty on 3 year deals who would you choose?

I'd take Cummings..

McNulty.

If it came down to having Shaw or Cummings in the squad then it’s no contest on that one.

[BILLYHIBS]

Cannae criticise McNultys work ethic but Jase is the better finisher I also thought in his brief spell with the Hun Jase seemed to have improved his work on the ball outside the box and his all round play

Saying that not too fussed about either tbh. :greengrin

If either happen they happen if they dinnae they dinnae

In Hecky we trust. :agree:

[The Spaceman]

I would love it if he came back, if anything because he is a maverick and a real character. It is concerning he has pretty much done nothing since leaving us, but then again so did Scott Allan. Sometimes players must fit and I would have JC over Oli Shaw any day of the week.