Summer 2019 transfer thread

[we are hibs]

I imagine RG will have been at football games in America and seen the match day experience and stadium facilities they have. Wonder what his thoughts would be on the match day experience here? We also have the smallest ticket office known to man. Maybe if we ever filled in the corner between the east and famous 5 they could build a club shop there and move the ticket office into where the club shop is currently.

[Hibs4185]

I’ve always had the idea of selling the hibs club and using the funds to build a new hibs club between the east and FF.

You could have facilities over looking the pitch, would be great for weddings and other events. Imagine it would increase membership massively and match day it would be an amazing.

Obviously the membership or whoever owns the hibs club would have to agree to it, but it would be a cost effective way of filling in one of the corners whilst having an amazing venue for fans.

[Larry Burns]

McGeough to Aberdeen deal has collapsed, apparently

Now I’m hearing it’s back on!

Who knows what’s happening there but Dons want it wrapped up by tomorrow

[GloryGlory]

I keep hearing this GloryGlory, apart from Hearts who rent from Oriam, who else has it, is planning for it?

Is it not more to do, it would be an asset in winter, players can train inside?

Both, probably.

[Heisenberg]

Now I’m hearing it’s back on!

Who knows what’s happening there but Dons want it wrapped up by tomorrow

Looks like Aberdeen are going big to try and get him before Friday as that’s their deadline for the Europa League.

[3pm]

Looks like Aberdeen are going big to try and get him before Friday as that’s their deadline for the Europa League.

And the Bank of Hibernian could pinch him! 😂😂😂

[The Leith Dutch]

How much do you think it will cost to get the 4 corners filled in and how many extra seats will we get? Remember there would still have to be access for emergency services etc?

As much as I'd love the corners filled in I think this would cost a fortune and I can see money being spent at HTC before the corners getting filled in.

New indoor pitch etc

Like I say - I'm not a massive advocate of the corners being filled in but the point I'm trying (badly obviously :) ) to make is that to make the next step up requires a sizeable increase in revenue for the club. Last two years we've been around 18,000 average attendance out of 20,000. A good chunk of the missing is the South Stand presumably so the next goal would have to be getting to the point that's open for the non category A games maybe?

Filling the corners in will cost plenty - particularly if there's any required remodeling for emergency services.
The point would be that from the new owner's perspective it's a better use of money to finance increased capacity to the stands and to get the accompanying expectation of increased revenue every year than it is to drop his money direct into increasing the wages as that's not sustainable.

I don't know enough about revenue brought in by improvements to the HTC or adding an indoor pitch to know if that's a good use of finance to increase revenue to the club.

Ultimately my argument is that if he's serious about pushing for best of the rest and regular European football then the wage budget needs to increase and I believe that, to keep that fiscally responsible, that requires an increase in revenue probably in the ballpark of 2 - 3 million. More tickets sold per home game is one of the quickest ways to make a dent in that.

[JimBHibees]

I keep hearing this GloryGlory, apart from Hearts who rent from Oriam, who else has it, is planning for it?

Is it not more to do, it would be an asset in winter, players can train inside?

Is it not part of the Project brave elite level criteria?

[Inconsequential]

I continually read that some posters suggest that the corners at Easter Rd should be filled in. While great in theory if you look at the stadium site this would be problematic due to boundary restrictions as both the South and Famous Five are designed with corners that taper off to so the stands remain within the boundary. Land adjacent to the stadium which also serves as the public highway does not belong to Hibs. Possibly two corners could be filled in but I'm no expert.

[bill_reed]

I continually read that some posters suggest that the corners at Easter Rd should be filled in. While great in theory if you look at the stadium site this would be problematic due to boundary restrictions as both the South and Famous Five are designed with corners that taper off to so the stands remain within the boundary. Land adjacent to the stadium which also serves as the public highway does not belong to Hibs. Possibly two corners could be filled in but I'm no expert.

there has to be at least one end of the ground open for emergency access, such as ambulances and fire engines...

[Lago]

Any Hibs transfer rumours ?

[Steven79]

there has to be at least one end of the ground open for emergency access, such as ambulances and fire engines...

Aberdeen don't have that do they?

[04Sauzee]

Aberdeen don't have that do they?

Not 100% sure, maybe it's not a requirement just see most new stadiums that are fully enclosed have space underneath one of the corners to allow access?

[hibee316]

there has to be at least one end of the ground open for emergency access, such as ambulances and fire engines...

Doesn't mean you can't have the corners filled though. Hampden being an example.

[Ardenttwo]

Any Hibs transfer rumours ?

Exactly. I thought this was a transfer discussion/rumours. All it is now about corners being filled in Full sized indoor pitches etc etc.

[bill_reed]

Aberdeen don't have that do they?


Yes...Aberdeen...the north west side of the stand had access for emergency vehicle....

[bill_reed]

Doesn't mean you can't have the corners filled though. Hampden being an example.
Hampden has two tunnel one just to the left of the main entrance... and one to the right...

[Inconsequential]

Any Hibs transfer rumours ? Yes rumour has it that the ownership of Hibs has been transferred to a Peru born American businessman named Ronald Gordon. Transfer of the summer and the most important apparently.. :na na: :wink: :greengrin

[Tarrahib]

Yes rumour has it that the ownership of Hibs has been transferred to a Peru born American businessman named Ronald Gordon. Transfer of the summer and the most important apparently.. :na na: :wink: :greengrin
Aye he's not even right in the door and you are talking about spending his money on filling in the corners of the ground and other unnecessary extras that not needed yet.Let's fill Easter Road for every home game over a period of time before we talk about upgrading it.
Let's get a great winning team on the park.

[Inconsequential]

Aye he's not even right in the door and you are talking about spending his money on filling in the corners of the ground and other unnecessary extras that not needed yet.Let's fill Easter Road for every home game over a period of time before we talk about upgrading it.
Let's get a great winning team on the park. I was only talking about filling in the corners as I continually read posters that suggested it in the first place. It would be more trouble than it's worth imo. You're absolutely right of course let's make progress as a club first. :agree:

[Leitherhibs]

Killie knocked back 500k from Nurnberg for Greg Taylor - He's a player probably still out of our reach who I'd love us to go after.

[04Sauzee]

Killie knocked back 500k from Nurnberg for Greg Taylor - He's a player probably still out of our reach who I'd love us to go after.

21 years of age and over 100 appearances for Killie and a very good left back. If we were speculating to accumulate then he's the type of player who would probably make us money. Unfortunately we won't be paying over 500k on one player anytime soon

[Greencore]

21 years of age and over 100 appearances for Killie and a very good left back. If we were speculating to accumulate then he's the type of player who would probably make us money. Unfortunately we won't be paying over 500k on one player anytime soon

Never say never.

[Bob Box Fish]

I think we will need another two decent midfielders. Current midfield is probably as weak as the Butcher era.

In the last few years we have lost - Mcgeouch, Mcginn, Fyvie, Bartley, Milligan and Omeonga.

Out of F.Murray, Mallan and Allan I think we can only play one of these at a time as they are quite similar from what I’ve seen / luxury players.

Plenty of time left left in the window to get the right players in so I’m not overly worried. I’m sure there will be money available to replace the quality we have lost in the last three years or so.

[ancient hibee]

How can a player that most. consider to be our best attacking midfielder possibly be considered a luxury player?I would say he was essential to the team.

[Heisenberg]

We are extremely weak in midfield and Hecky knows that. Hopefully we’ll get someone in shortly.

[jacomo]

I think we will need another two decent midfielders. Current midfield is probably as weak as the Butcher era.

In the last few years we have lost - Mcgeouch, Mcginn, Fyvie, Bartley, Milligan and Omeonga.

Out of F.Murray, Mallan and Allan I think we can only play one of these at a time as they are quite similar from what I’ve seen / luxury players.

Plenty of time left left in the window to get the right players in so I’m not overly worried. I’m sure there will be money available to replace the quality we have lost in the last three years or so.


:agree:

It’s clearly the priority area.

We gambled on Spike last summer and although he did ok he wasn’t enough. We needed Omeonga to make central midfield really tick last season.

Maybe Jackson can play there but we need more.

[04Sauzee]

Dundee Utd announced Shankland

[Speedway]

Dundee Utd announced Shankland

Think they may have got themselves a liability there.

[04Sauzee]

Think they may have got themselves a liability there.

Actually haven2 seen him play, all I know is he's scored goals. Guessing there may be a reason why he's not got a move to a bigger club?

[Speedway]

Actually haven2 seen him play, all I know is he's scored goals. Guessing there may be a reason why he's not got a move to a bigger club?

I’m thinking that the boy has scored a million goals, had clubs linked with him from all over, become a free agent and the club that ‘wins the race for his signature’ is a Scottish championship club with average gates only just averaging 5,000

Somethings not right there.

[The Leith Dutch]

I think we will need another two decent midfielders. Current midfield is probably as weak as the Butcher era.

In the last few years we have lost - Mcgeouch, Mcginn, Fyvie, Bartley, Milligan and Omeonga.

Out of F.Murray, Mallan and Allan I think we can only play one of these at a time as they are quite similar from what I’ve seen / luxury players.

Plenty of time left left in the window to get the right players in so I’m not overly worried. I’m sure there will be money available to replace the quality we have lost in the last three years or so.


How can a player that most. consider to be our best attacking midfielder possibly be considered a luxury player?I would say he was essential to the team.

I agree Allan isn't a luxury player but I'm guessing the OP probably means he'd want to see more bite in midfield which I'm inclined to agree with.
I'd probably say you could play two of them depending on what you're doing with wingers and strikers in the XI.

There are a few too many teams being bandied around with everyone outside the back four and Rocky being in there for goals and creativity and we're going to need a midfield platform to utilise those attacking players.

[Bob Box Fish]

I agree Allan isn't a luxury player but I'm guessing the OP probably means he'd want to see more bite in midfield which I'm inclined to agree with.
I'd probably say you could play two of them depending on what you're doing with wingers and strikers in the XI.

There are a few too many teams being bandied around with everyone outside the back four and Rocky being in there for goals and creativity and we're going to need a midfield platform to utilise those attacking players.

I think based on the way Hecky lined his team up last year / what we have available we are looking at
Whittaker, Slivka and Allan combo with Horgan / Newell / Boyle fighting to wing it and Doidge or Kamberi through the middle. Probably a sixth to eighth place finish at best, however, there’s plenty of time for this to change and get the right players in, particularly being debt free and the investment publicised.

[The Leith Dutch]

I think based on the way Hecky lined his team up last year / what we have available we are looking at
Whittaker, Slivka and Allan combo with Horgan / Newell / Boyle fighting to wing it and Doidge or Kamberi through the middle. Probably a sixth to eighth place finish at best, however, there’s plenty of time for this to change and get the right players in, particularly being debt free and the investment publicised.

I'd say with the current team we'll finish higher up the league than sixth to eighth but that's a reflection as much on other teams not being great as us being exceptional.

I reckon you're not far off the mark for how we'd line up and I'd find that centre midfield concerning.
Allan isn't a shrinking violet in midfield but equally we didn't bring him in to tackle or retain the ball.
I want him roaming that area from the centre circle to the edge of the box looking to damage the opposition at any chance and not worrying about tracking runners.

For me if you're playing Allan, two wingers and a striker the other two midfielders have to be in there to hold midfield rather than for attacking reasons.
Not saying they both need to be defensive mids but they need to be spending most of their time in the midfield winning and retaining the ball and setting the platform for Allan and the 3 attackers. In my head that gives us a problem with Mallan

[Souter96Mac]

Dundee Utd announced Shankland

Supposedly will be on around £4k a week. Will be a shame if they don't come up this season..

[calumhibee1]

Dundee Utd announced Shankland

You’d have to presume he’s actually just not that great in that case.

[Hibernian Verse]

Supposedly will be on around £4k a week. Will be a shame if they don't come up this season..

There is 0 chance Utd are paying a player 4k a week. Especially one that came from Ayr.

[Aldo]

There is 0 chance Utd are paying a player 4k a week. Especially one that came from Ayr.

I think you’ll find they are paying in the region of that and whilst I don’t know and colleague of mines is a big Utd fan and has confirmed this.

They are desperate to get out the league!


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[jacomo]

I’m thinking that the boy has scored a million goals, had clubs linked with him from all over, become a free agent and the club that ‘wins the race for his signature’ is a Scottish championship club with average gates only just averaging 5,000

Somethings not right there.


Yes this is weird. Have they offered him a huge contract? Are they gambling on this one?

[Allant1981]

I think you’ll find they are paying in the region of that and whilst I don’t know and colleague of mines is a big Utd fan and has confirmed this.

They are desperate to get out the league!


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I get paid in the region of 60 grand a year, doesn't mean I get paid 60 grand though

[Aldo]

I get paid in the region of 60 grand a year, doesn't mean I get paid 60 grand though

I realise that but you know what I mean (like I get what your saying)


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[Del Boy]

There is 0 chance Utd are paying a player 4k a week. Especially one that came from Ayr.

Not sure if quite 4K but he’ll be highest player in the league and guys like Pawlett and Sow will be on over 2k.

They have a very wealthy US owner. And there’s nothing wrong with that....

[jacomo]

There is 0 chance Utd are paying a player 4k a week. Especially one that came from Ayr.


Why did he go there then, given how many clubs were supposedly chasing his signature?

[04Sauzee]

Signed a young boy for the development squad. 17 year old from QOTS

[Fergus52]

Did Tom James not say that he's comfortable playing centre-mid?

So if we only sign one DM he'll probs be back-up there.

[Heisenberg]

Danzell Gravenberch on trial at St Johnstone.

[Souter96Mac]

Danzell Gravenberch on trial at St Johnstone.

Sounds like we're no longer interested, if we ever were.

[FilipinoHibs]

:agree:

It’s clearly the priority area.

We gambled on Spike last summer and although he did ok he wasn’t enough. We needed Omeonga to make central midfield really tick last season.

Maybe Jackson can play there but we need more.

Allan.Mallan and Slivka to build round plus Newell.

[Allant1981]

I realise that but you know what I mean (like I get what your saying)


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Although if he is getting paid that(which I cant see) utd are playing a dangerous game, if they dont get promoted then they will struggle finincially

[04Sauzee]

Danzell Gravenberch on trial at St Johnstone.

Must be back from his holidays.
Certainly looked a player in his YouTube real

[Aldo]

Although if he is getting paid that(which I cant see) utd are playing a dangerous game, if they dont get promoted then they will struggle finincially

Totally agree! They are desperate, hence the outlay!


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[Ronniekirk]

I think you’ll find they are paying in the region of that and whilst I don’t know and colleague of mines is a big Utd fan and has confirmed this.

They are desperate to get out the league!


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[Since452]

Dundee Utd announced Shankland

Thats about his level imo

[Since452]

There is 0 chance Utd are paying a player 4k a week. Especially one that came from Ayr.

I've heard from a few United fans up here that they are paying around the same in wages as Aberdeen. These pesky American owners pumping money in.

[Aldo]

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Indeed Ronnie but they are playing a dangerous game if it doesn’t work!!


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[brog]

Must be back from his holidays.
Certainly looked a player in his YouTube real

People on here drooled over Shefki Kuqi based on his videos!!

[04Sauzee]

People on here drooled over Shefki Kuqi based on his videos!!

Which is why I'm not making a claim that he is any good just that they have made him look decent in the YouTube real.

Kuqi was a decent player just not for hibs

[Hermit Crab]

People on here drooled over Shefki Kuqi based on his videos!!


And Doidge! :duck: :greengrin

[CockneyRebel]

Which is why I'm not making a claim that he is any good just that they have made him look decent in the YouTube real.

Kuqi was a decent player just not for hibs


He was finished long before he came here - ask any Palace supporter.

[04Sauzee]

He was finished long before he came here - ask any Palace suppoerters.

I'm not saying he wasn't

[Northern Hibby]

People on here drooled over Shefki Kuqi based on his videos!!

Just wanted to see his celebration 😔

[jacomo]

Allan.Mallan and Slivka to build round plus Newell.


None of these guys are defensive midfielders. Slivka maybe a box-to-box CM but he's been inconsistent so far.

We need some proper reinforcement in this area.

[The 90+2]

Supposedly will be on around £4k a week. Will be a shame if they don't come up this season..

He can walk for nothing if not promoted and has a release clause fee in there too.

[K-Zazu]

None of these guys are defensive midfielders. Slivka maybe a box-to-box CM but he's been inconsistent so far.

We need some proper reinforcement in this area.

Slivka couldnae tackle a fish supper

[Nicho87]

Slivka, shaw, Whittaker, dead wood.

[Mikey]

People on here drooled over Shefki Kuqi based on his videos!!

Aye, when he was only 25............... Stone :greengrin

[Hermit Crab]

Slivka, shaw, Whittaker, dead wood.


Agree with the other two but Slivka deadwood? No way imo. He's a good player and will do a job for us this season if he's given the chance.

[Ozyhibby]

Agree with the other two but Slivka deadwood? No way imo. He's a good player and will do a job for us this season if he's given the chance.

Personally still think Shaw could come good but the other two are not good enough.


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[3pm]

Agree with the other two but Slivka deadwood? No way imo. He's a good player and will do a job for us this season if he's given the chance.

He’s had plenty chances.

[Greencore]

Agree with the other two but Slivka deadwood? No way imo. He's a good player and will do a job for us this season if he's given the chance.

Wrong.

[Stuart93]

Agree with the other two but Slivka deadwood? No way imo. He's a good player and will do a job for us this season if he's given the chance.

We’ve been waiting for him to be a good player consistently since he joined us now.

The only reason he gets dropped and doesn’t get a chance in the first place is due to his inconsistency

I’d maybe give him this season as a last chance

[BegbieHSC]

Slivka, shaw, Whittaker, dead wood.

Agree about Whittaker.

Shaw should go out on loan.

Slivka is a very decent squad player, and I’d definitely keep him.

[Brightside]

We’ve been waiting for him to be a good player consistently since he joined us now.

The only reason he gets dropped and doesn’t get a chance in the first place is due to his inconsistency

I’d maybe give him this season as a last chance

We have had about 4 consistent good players for the last 2 years. They tend to get sold. Slivka has done more than enough to command a place in our squad.

[The 90+2]

We have had about 4 consistent good players for the last 2 years. They tend to get sold. Slivka has done more than enough to command a place in our squad.

He should be a first team starter by now. He’s not good enough just to keep in a squad.

[hibbie02]

Wrong.

Whatever happened to the use of IMHO?

[The 90+2]

Whatever happened to the use of IMHO?

It’s a thread on everyone’s thoughts on a player. There’s no need for the use unless there’s some factual study if a player is good or not.

[The 90+2]

he should be a first team starter by now. He’s not good enough just to keep in a squad.

imho ;)

[hibbie02]

It’s a thread on everyone’s thoughts on a player. There’s no need for the use unless there’s some factual study if a player is good or not.

Oh right then....silly me.

[The 90+2]

Oh right then....silly me.

It’s okay, no harm done imho :greengrin

[calumhibee1]

He should be a first team starter by now. He’s not good enough just to keep in a squad.

Yup. Not good enough. He’s had two seasons to get into the team and hasn’t managed it. And before anyone says he never gets a run to cement a place - there’s a reason he never gets that run.

[Greencore]

Yup. Not good enough. He’s had two seasons to get into the team and hasn’t managed it. And before anyone says he never gets a run to cement a place - there’s a reason he never gets that run.

Pretty much this............... IMHO

[Stuart93]

We have had about 4 consistent good players for the last 2 years. They tend to get sold. Slivka has done more than enough to command a place in our squad.

I’d be disappointed if we didn’t bring another midfielder in and went with slivka which is probably most peoples feelings.

[Northernhibee]

On last night I’d want us to keep Shaw. Heckingbottom works on his confidence he’ll score a fair few IMO.

[green with envy]

On last night I’d want us to keep Shaw. Heckingbottom works on his confidence he’ll score a fair few IMO.

I have no idea what you saw last night to suggest that he Will score a bundle of goals, as he done nothing apart from screwing a ball over the bar from 6 yards out.

[Fergus52]

We'll struggle to find a midfielder as technically gifted as slivka to come and sit on our bench, especially on our budget.

He shouldn't be first choice but is a perfectly fine option off the bench and for back up IMO.

[calumhibee1]

We'll struggle to find a midfielder as technically gifted as slivka to come and sit on our bench, especially on our budget.

He shouldn't be first choice but is a perfectly fine option off the bench and for back up IMO.

But we most definitely wouldn’t struggle to find one more physically gifted. His physical abilities let him down so much that his technical ability is hardly ever on show.

[Brightside]

But we most definitely wouldn’t struggle to find one more physically gifted. His physical abilities let him down so much that his technical ability is hardly ever on show.

Poppycock. IMO.

[Tarrahib]

Personally still think Shaw could come good but the other two are not good enough.


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Agree with the other two but Slivka deadwood? No way imo. He's a good player and will do a job for us this season if he's given the chance.
So will Doidge if given a proper chance.

[jacomo]

But we most definitely wouldn’t struggle to find one more physically gifted. His physical abilities let him down so much that his technical ability is hardly ever on show.


He scored my favourite goal of last season (the one where he started the move in the right back position).

He’s inconsistent (and in and out of the team) but he’s got something. I don’t think we’ve seen the best of Slivka, and not convinced we ever will, but I’d take a chance.

[calumhibee1]

Poppycock. IMO.

Entitled to your own opinion of course, I know you’re one of his biggest fans on here. What is it you see in him? I see a guy who’s short passing can be very hit and miss, more than the other guys we have had in the middle of the pitch. Someone else said the other day that he has an ability to turn a 70/30 ball in his favour into a 40/60 and I’d agree with that at times, he just seems to lack any real ability to put a stamp on a game on a regular basis, whether that’s through winning tackles, scoring goals or assisting.

He’s by no means a bad player and he’s had some good moments at Hibs but they’ve just been nowhere near frequent enough imo. Danny Swanson was the same and he never got the luxury of 2 full seasons and possibly even a third to try and establish himself in the team. Not many players do.

[Callum_62]

Entitled to your own opinion of course, I know you’re one of his biggest fans on here. What is it you see in him? I see a guy who’s short passing can be very hit and miss, more than the other guys we have had in the middle of the pitch. Someone else said the other day that he has an ability to turn a 70/30 ball in his favour into a 40/60 and I’d agree with that at times, he just seems to lack any real ability to put a stamp on a game on a regular basis, whether that’s through winning tackles, scoring goals or assisting.

He’s by no means a bad player and he’s had some good moments at Hibs but they’ve just been nowhere near frequent enough imo. Danny Swanson was the same and he never got the luxury of 2 full seasons and possibly even a third to try and establish himself in the team. Not many players do.Slivkas more than good enough for the squad

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[BSEJVT]

Slivkas more than good enough for the squad

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As a Slivka critic I would agree

I would also suggest that the money we are paying him would be better used towards someone who was more than good enough for the team

[Allant1981]

Slivkas more than good enough for the squad

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Exactly but the way some would go on you would think we dont need anymore than the starting 11 players at the club, we need a squad and slivka is more than good enough to be part of that

[Callum_62]

As a Slivka critic I would agree

I would also suggest that the money we are paying him would be better used towards someone who was more than good enough for the teamGuess it depends what we are paying him

Certainly no one coming through that could take his place

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[Northernhibee]

I have no idea what you saw last night to suggest that he Will score a bundle of goals, as he done nothing apart from screwing a ball over the bar from 6 yards out.

Forced their RB into mistakes and caught out their offside trap a few times. With confidence and his goals per minute ratio he had a place to play this season.

[Ozyhibby]

People will defend Slivka right up until the day Heckingbottom bins him, and then say it’s a good decision, and it’s been clear he wasn’t cutting it.
It was the same with Milligan last season. And Oxley before that.


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[MacGruber]

Before anyone tells me otherwise, I know full well the work in the background is in full swing on the transfer front. It just feels like it's stopped as so much focus on the takeover and rightly so - the rumour page for signings has dried up a bit.
Not long until competative action and we are sorely missing a couple of box to box midfielder/defensive midfielder and a striker. No doubt Omeonga, Ojo and McNulty are the No. 1 targets but not sure if any will pan out now.
Any other names in the frame?

[green with envy]

Forced their RB into mistakes and caught out their offside trap a few times. With confidence and his goals per minute ratio he had a place to play this season.
On that basis he should get an extended contract.

[K-Zazu]

I thought the Ojo deal was dead?

[weecounty hibby]

He should be a first team starter by now. He’s not good enough just to keep in a squad.
So by that logic we should have a squad of 11. He is a decent player and good enough to be in our squad of players.

[K-Zazu]

Would rangers loan us Mcrorie??

[DetroitHibs]

People will defend Slivka right up until the day Heckingbottom bins him, and then say it’s a good decision, and it’s been clear he wasn’t cutting it.
It was the same with Milligan last season. And Oxley before that.


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You forgot the bit when he moves on and has a pretty average career, then becomes available again and could do a job. His previous career at Hibs miraculously turns him in to Pele and we start creaming ourselves at the thought of him returning :rolleyes:

[Callum_62]

I thought the Ojo deal was dead?Publicly yeah but I think we still might be keen pending other moves and him and S****horpe sorting something out

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[Leitherhibs]

Would rangers loan us Mcrorie??

No, but I’d take him in a heartbeat.

[Smartie]

Would rangers loan us Mcrorie??

Will Rangers not maybe start to do business with us that is in their best interests now that our regime has changed?

The issue with this deal (and anything else between the 2 clubs in recent years) is that we've been close to their level - by loaning us McRorie they might be strengthening a rival.

[Northernhibee]

On that basis he should get an extended contract.

Any need?

[SRHibs]

Slivka is clearly just forgettable. He had a long string of games where the consensus was pretty much that he had been one of our best players, yet one 'meh' game and we revert to whipping out the clichés about him "not grabbing the game by the scruff of the neck" or "putting his stamp on the game".

[Ozyhibby]

Will Rangers not maybe start to do business with us that is in their best interests now that our regime has changed?

The issue with this deal (and anything else between the 2 clubs in recent years) is that we've been close to their level - by loaning us McRorie they might be strengthening a rival.

Not into giving valuable game time to one of their players. If they want to sell him to us then fine but not a loan.


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[Aldo]

No, but I’d take him in a heartbeat.

Think I would prefer Docherty.

Think McCrorie is off down south

[Smartie]

Not into giving valuable game time to one of their players. If they want to sell him to us then fine but not a loan.


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Surely it depends on what impact he has for us?

I'd take their entire youth team for a year if it got us 3rd in the league and the Scottish Cup.

Giving certain Celtic players some experience worked out ok for us?

[madhatter]

Feel for Slivka because his trend always seems to be:

Starts developing some form > gets injured > comes back and looks hopeless > drops out of team

He is certainly a player with some talent but unless he can reliable play every week then he'll struggle to become a regular starter anywhere.

He's a player that gets me thinking "what a shame". Easily a good squad player at the very least.

[The Modfather]

Slivka has ability and looks elegant at times but doesn’t really influence a game positively or negatively IMO. He can’t control the tempo of a game the way McGeough can, doesn’t have the energy or drive of McGinn and doesn’t have the goals and creativity of Allan. He has elements of all those players but a jack of all trades master of none for me.

[LeithMike]

Slivka has ability and looks elegant at times but doesn’t really influence a game positively or negatively IMO. He can’t control the tempo of a game the way McGeough can, doesn’t have the energy or drive of McGinn and doesn’t have the goals and creativity of Allan. He has elements of all those players but a jack of all trades master of none for me.Cant argue with that. At times it looks like we are going to see a really good player but I think he probably lacks a bit of confidence . He's just not kicked on like he should have. Possibly down to Hibs doing well in his first season and his failure to break into the team. It must be tough going to another country to ply your trade but fail to prosper.

I still think he offers more in open play than Mallan but I dont think he has offered enough to merit a first team place and Mallan contributes in other ways.

I think to push up the league Hibs are going to need two other starting central midfielders to complement Allan. McGeouch and Omeonga would do me.

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[Ozyhibby]

Cant argue with that. At times it looks like we are going to see a really good player but I think he probably lacks a bit of confidence . He's just not kicked on like he should have. Possibly down to Hibs doing well in his first season and his failure to break into the team. It must be tough going to another country to ply your trade but fail to prosper.

I still think he offers more in open play than Mallan but I dont think he has offered enough to merit a first team place and Mallan contributes in other ways.

I think to push up the league Hibs are going to need two other starting central midfielders to complement Allan. McGeouch and Omeonga would do me.

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I think he’s nowhere near as good as Mallan in open play.


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[GibbytheHibby2]

Exactly but the way some would go on you would think we dont need anymore than the starting 11 players at the club, we need a squad and slivka is more than good enough to be part of that

Spot on. Roll back 6 or so years ago and Stevenson wasn’t good enough - and you all know who you are - for the Hibs squad, but now he’s accepted as pretty much god like.

[Smartie]

I think he’s nowhere near as good as Mallan in open play.


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Slivka's better on the ball under pressure than Mallan.

Mallan is outstanding when given time and space to play, miles better than Slivka will ever be. He can be pressed out of games too easily, although that may improve with a bit of help from quicker players with better movement on his side.

It would probably be horses for courses out of the pair of them for me, if it came down to it.

[Tyler Durden]

Slivka is clearly just forgettable. He had a long string of games where the consensus was pretty much that he had been one of our best players, yet one 'meh' game and we revert to whipping out the clichés about him "not grabbing the game by the scruff of the neck" or "putting his stamp on the game".

The manager seemed to follow that consensus though. After Slivka had the sending off at St Johnstone he struggled to get back in the team. I think in his last few starts he was subbed around the hour mark. Probably because he wasn’t impacting the game enough.

[1875STEVE]

Gravenberch on trial at St Johnstone

[calumhibee1]

Exactly but the way some would go on you would think we dont need anymore than the starting 11 players at the club, we need a squad and slivka is more than good enough to be part of that

That depends how you look at the squad. If your looking at your squad players to have the starting players looking over their shoulder and knowing there’s good competition for places then I doubt many of our starting midfielders over Slivkas time here have thought to themselves “I need to perform every week with Slivka breathing down my neck”. If that’s the case then he’s probably not good enough to be a squad player at Hibs.

If you’re looking for guys who can be dropped in when injuries and suspensions come up and just kind of get through games without having a howler then yeah, he’s fine. I’d rather we had someone who could genuinely push the starting players though.

[04Sauzee]

Gravenberch on trial at St Johnstone

Played last night, St J fans on pie and bovril reckon he was very good although was playing as a centre half

[MacGruber]

Gravenberch on trial at St Johnstone

Ah - was hoping we would have been in for him. I know you can't take anything from a youtube video but he looked the part - football wise and size wise

[ancient hibee]

What is needed most of all is someone to run the game.We had nobody last season(perhaps a Milligan 2/3 years younger would have done it).Perhaps Allan combined with a less talented stronger player.

[hfc rd]

Slivka has ability and looks elegant at times but doesn’t really influence a game positively or negatively IMO. He can’t control the tempo of a game the way McGeough can, doesn’t have the energy or drive of McGinn and doesn’t have the goals and creativity of Allan. He has elements of all those players but a jack of all trades master of none for me.


I share the same view as yourself regarding Slivka. Haven’t a clue what his best role in midfield really is.

[Allant1981]

That depends how you look at the squad. If your looking at your squad players to have the starting players looking over their shoulder and knowing there’s good competition for places then I doubt many of our starting midfielders over Slivkas time here have thought to themselves “I need to perform every week with Slivka breathing down my neck”. If that’s the case then he’s probably not good enough to be a squad player at Hibs.

If you’re looking for guys who can be dropped in when injuries and suspensions come up and just kind of get through games without having a howler then yeah, he’s fine. I’d rather we had someone who could genuinely push the starting players though.

Except he is good enough as he has been in the squad consistently,you dont rate him clearly, the previous manager has and if he doesn't move on and is in the squad most weeks then the current coaching team also think he has something to offer

[147lothian]

Slivka has ability and looks elegant at times but doesn’t really influence a game positively or negatively IMO. He can’t control the tempo of a game the way McGeough can, doesn’t have the energy or drive of McGinn and doesn’t have the goals and creativity of Allan. He has elements of all those players but a jack of all trades master of none for me.

A good summery of Slivka. IMO we will now be attracting a better standard of player with more funds being available, If Slivka moves on i'll wish him all the best and if he stays your assessment is why he'll find himself out the team and used as a replacement when needed, to fill in for injuries and suspensions.

[GreenOnions]

Gravenberch on trial at St Johnstone

Is Gravenberch a verb or a proper noun?

[Unseen work]

What Slivka has that imo no other central midfielders do in our current team is the ability to get in the box and get on the end of chances.

In in ideal world he would play as a number 10, if he did that for a season he would chip in with quite a few goals and assists imo.

Is he good enough to play there for us every week with where he want to go? I’m not convinced.

I do think he is a useful option to have however, he can glide past people, play a nice pass and offers a bit of energy. It’s rare you see someone tackling him when he attempts to go past them imo, he manipulates his body well and is deceptively quick when dribbling.

I would keep him as a squad player as you can trust him to do a job.

[CMurdoch]

Slivka going into the last year of his 3 year contract.
Has played 65 games for Hibs in 2 seasons and has 33 full caps for Lithuania which at just turned 24 is very impressive.

Get Del Ron Ron Ron on the blower to Reading to do a swap for McNulty if Reading can come to an agreement with him over the remaining 3 years of his contract.
3 years at lets say £10k per week is £1.5 million. McNulty happy to accept £750k. Nah, not happening.

Only chance of McNulty coming to Hibs is another loan deal or
Hibs pay Reading a £250k transfer fee, Reading give it to McNulty who accepts it in lieu of the rest of his contract and Hibs give him a £50k signing on fee and £3k per week 3 year contract. McNulty misses out on £750k over the next 3 years to play for Hibs. Nah no happenin'. McNulty in the boxseat. Reading screwed unless someone else will take over the contract which means another Championship team or a wealthy 3rd tier team.

[Unseen work]

I want McNulty back but I also feel like we could do with a forward that has a bit of trickery and skill that could take on and beat a defender.

Kamberi showed he could do it in his first season but not at all last.

I wouldn’t fancy Doidge, Flo or McNulty in 1 vs 1s or to skin a defender.

Understand we will likely play one up top so we might not be looking for one but it’s a useful option to have imo, maybe Moon could be that option?

Horgan, Boyle, Allan and Newell could all take a player on in the final third but I think from the bench we could do with that type of player I mentioned, especially if were chasing teams.

[FitbaFolkKen]

People will defend Slivka right up until the day Heckingbottom bins him, and then say it’s a good decision, and it’s been clear he wasn’t cutting it.
It was the same with Milligan last season. And Oxley before that.


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I like all three of them, solid if unspectacular.


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[we are hibs]

Slivka is really slow on the ball at times. And he sometimes dithers at the edge of the box. If he was as good as some make out he would be a regular starter though. But he isn't and I honestly can't see him fitting into a midfield pressing high.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Article in EEN this morning

Hibs head coach Paul Heckingbottom has admitted American multi-millionaire businessman Ron Gordon’s buyout of the Easter Road club won’t mean he’ll be allowed to plunge head-long into the transfer market.


In ending Sir Tom Farmer’s 28-year-long ownership of Hibs, Gordon has made “a seven-figure” cash injection in a deal which also leaves the club debt-free six years ahead of plan.

But Heckingbottom, who described the timing of Gordon’s take over as “excellent”, insisted it won’t see him embark on a spending splurge to follow the arrival of six signings so far this summer.

“Nothing is going to change in that respect,” he said. “We’ve been told we’re working to a budget we were working to. The investment has come to clear debts, for the infrastructure and the academy and we have been assured the plan is not going to change.

“What would be the point in signing players to replace the players we have just signed. We haven’t played a game, we can’t be doing that. It’s about improving what the club do really well. There will be significant improvements throughout the club, but at the minute the playing side of it is remaining exactly the same strategy.”

Heckingbottom revealed he’d been in the dark as much as anyone else regarding Gordon’s intentions until he was told just 24 hours before the public announcement was made.

He said: “I was excited anyway before I heard the news like everyone else, excited about the new season, a big turnover of players, trying to get players in to improve us, which is still ongoing. And then, like everyone else, excited about the news.

“The timing is excellent. I spoke to the new owner and his family on Tuesday and told him it couldn’t be better and that’s what he said he’d pushed for, he wanted to get it done before the end of June, before the new season. So I don’t think the timing could be any better.”

After completing the formalities and the subsequent round of media interviews, Gordon accompanied Sir Tom to the club’s East Mains training centre where, according to Heckingbottom, he cut an impressive figure.

He said: “I really enjoyed the day. Sir Tom came in. We hadn’t spoken face-to-face before so it was good to sit down and have a chat with him and Rod. It was a case of out with the old and in with the new but it was nice that everyone was there together.

“They’ve been looking after the club really well and I think everyone can take great comfort. The new owner has had to satisfy a lot of people, the owners, the board and satisfy them with his intentions and probably his plans for the club. Everyone wants the best and he’s had to impress a lot of people.

“He was at East Mains with his family, his wife and son and his son’s girlfriend so we wandered about, met a few players. Some had gone, but it was really informal and, I felt, a nice touch.

“There was no entourage, just a humble down-to-earth man walking about meeting people, greeting people. I thought it helped a hell of a lot. Change can be worrying for lots of people but I think the way he took time out of his day to come down and speak to people and the manner in which he did was impressive and for me it fits in with what we think the club is all about.”

[Callum_62]

Article in EEN this morning

Hibs head coach Paul Heckingbottom has admitted American multi-millionaire businessman Ron Gordon’s buyout of the Easter Road club won’t mean he’ll be allowed to plunge head-long into the transfer market.


In ending Sir Tom Farmer’s 28-year-long ownership of Hibs, Gordon has made “a seven-figure” cash injection in a deal which also leaves the club debt-free six years ahead of plan.

But Heckingbottom, who described the timing of Gordon’s take over as “excellent”, insisted it won’t see him embark on a spending splurge to follow the arrival of six signings so far this summer.

“Nothing is going to change in that respect,” he said. “We’ve been told we’re working to a budget we were working to. The investment has come to clear debts, for the infrastructure and the academy and we have been assured the plan is not going to change.

“What would be the point in signing players to replace the players we have just signed. We haven’t played a game, we can’t be doing that. It’s about improving what the club do really well. There will be significant improvements throughout the club, but at the minute the playing side of it is remaining exactly the same strategy.”

Heckingbottom revealed he’d been in the dark as much as anyone else regarding Gordon’s intentions until he was told just 24 hours before the public announcement was made.

He said: “I was excited anyway before I heard the news like everyone else, excited about the new season, a big turnover of players, trying to get players in to improve us, which is still ongoing. And then, like everyone else, excited about the news.

“The timing is excellent. I spoke to the new owner and his family on Tuesday and told him it couldn’t be better and that’s what he said he’d pushed for, he wanted to get it done before the end of June, before the new season. So I don’t think the timing could be any better.”

After completing the formalities and the subsequent round of media interviews, Gordon accompanied Sir Tom to the club’s East Mains training centre where, according to Heckingbottom, he cut an impressive figure.

He said: “I really enjoyed the day. Sir Tom came in. We hadn’t spoken face-to-face before so it was good to sit down and have a chat with him and Rod. It was a case of out with the old and in with the new but it was nice that everyone was there together.

“They’ve been looking after the club really well and I think everyone can take great comfort. The new owner has had to satisfy a lot of people, the owners, the board and satisfy them with his intentions and probably his plans for the club. Everyone wants the best and he’s had to impress a lot of people.

“He was at East Mains with his family, his wife and son and his son’s girlfriend so we wandered about, met a few players. Some had gone, but it was really informal and, I felt, a nice touch.

“There was no entourage, just a humble down-to-earth man walking about meeting people, greeting people. I thought it helped a hell of a lot. Change can be worrying for lots of people but I think the way he took time out of his day to come down and speak to people and the manner in which he did was impressive and for me it fits in with what we think the club is all about.”Sack the board.

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[Souter96Mac]

Could well all be true. But doubt Hecky is going to come out and say that we're going to splash the cash on some signings.

[The Spaceman]

Could well all be true. But doubt Hecky is going to come out and say that we're going to splash the cash on some signings.

Absolutely. He is hardly going to turn round to the press and say "Yep, we are utterly minted" whilst he is undertaking transfer negotiations. We are now a richer club than we were beforehand, and that is only set to improve. I don't think it'll mean us signing Mbappe/Neymar and it won't be an overnight change, but in the short-medium term I suspect, following this window, we will at least be on a par with Aberdeen in the transfer market.

[Hibernian Verse]

Absolutely. He is hardly going to turn round to the press and say "Yep, we are utterly minted" whilst he is undertaking transfer negotiations. We are now a richer club than we were beforehand, and that is only set to improve. I don't think it'll mean us signing Mbappe/Neymar and it won't be an overnight change, but in the short-medium term I suspect, following this window, we will at least be on a par with Aberdeen in the transfer market.

You literally told Facebook that you had got Mbappe on the back of your new top :confused:

You're a charlatan.

[bingo70]

Could well all be true. But doubt Hecky is going to come out and say that we're going to splash the cash on some signings.

If there is going to be a change in transfer budget it doesn’t make sense to change strategy mid way through a transfer window when the majority of our business has already been done.

It’d be nice if a wee bit extra cash allowed us to do a deal for the boy at S****horpe as he’s obviously a player we wanted but couldn’t previously afford. Obviously that depends on how much they want for him but if it’s just a nominal sum of say up to £100k it’d be a good show of intent if we were able to get a deal done for him.

[GloryGlory]

Could well all be true. But doubt Hecky is going to come out and say that we're going to splash the cash on some signings.

Yep. I wonder if we've been negotiating with some clubs about players and they've upped the ante since we announced new owners.

[Centre Hawf]

Wouldn't bother breaking the bank for McNulty unless we planned on moving on Kamberi. If this Moon boy half impresses and his wage is a fraction of what we'd spend on McNulty then I'd rather we wen't down that route as we have 3 strikers and likely to start with 1.

Slivka I would keep as a squad player if we don't have many targets lined up. But I know my thoughts on him at the moment are that he's probably not good enough to carry the club forward but could do a job as a squad player should we sign well in that department. Probably need at least 2 bodies in midfield still.

[GloryGlory]

Wouldn't bother breaking the bank for McNulty unless we planned on moving on Kamberi. If this Moon boy half impresses and his wage is a fraction of what we'd spend on McNulty then I'd rather we wen't down that route as we have 3 strikers and likely to start with 1.

Slivka I would keep as a squad player if we don't have many targets lined up. But I know my thoughts on him at the moment are that he's probably not good enough to carry the club forward but could do a job as a squad player should we sign well in that department. Probably need at least 2 bodies in midfield still.

I'd rather a new striker totally impresses! :greengrin

[Centre Hawf]

I'd rather a new striker totally impresses! :greengrin

Haha yeah that's true, too early for me still.

[Leitherhibs]

Slivka is away I’m told, not part of Hecky’s plans and been told he can go freely if he can find another club before the deadline.

[LeithMike]

Wouldn't break the bank for McNulty but I think he'd be a very good signing. Even though the goals dried up a bit, I though he showed all the attributes we would want. Pace, control, real physicality and good finishing. Mind you, I thought the same about Kamberi so am surprised how last season went for him (although you could tell he wasnt suited to a lone striker from the game at Tynecastle when he was on loan).

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[BILLYHIBS]

Slivka is away I’m told, not part of Hecky’s plans and been told he can go freely if he can find another club before the deadline.
Hmmmm!

Disappointed but cannae say he never got a chance

Loads of chances

In Hecky we trust!

[Callum_62]

If slivka is going we must be brining in more than 1 midfielder

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[MacGruber]

If slivka is going we must be brining in more than 1 midfielder

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I reckon we were already needing 2 midfielders, Slivka going would need 3

Currently need

2 midfielders, 2 strikers a left back and a winger before/if Slivka leaves.

Or

James is seen as left back cover aswell as right back and Mackie is deemed good enough so no need for another left back

Kamberi is staying and Shaw steps up so can get by with 1 more striker

Fraser Murray, Ben Stirling and other youths step up so still need 2 even if Slivka leaves.

Only real option wide right is Boyle though - got 2 left sided wingers though not sure Newall is out and out winger more just left sided

[Aldo]

I reckon we were already needing 2 midfielders, Slivka going would need 3

Currently need

2 midfielders, 2 strikers a left back and a winger before/if Slivka leaves.

Or

James is seen as left back cover aswell as right back and Mackie is deemed good enough so no need for another left back

Kamberi is staying and Shaw steps up so can get by with 1 more striker

Fraser Murray, Ben Stirling and other youths step up so still need 2 even if Slivka leaves.

Only real option wide right is Boyle though - got 2 left sided wingers though not sure Newall is out and out winger more just left sided

Agree with you first part but I am not sure Shaw has the ability to step up? I really do hope he does but cannot see it. If we go into the new season relying on Doidge, Flo and Shaw we will struggle if Doidge gets injured.


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[IWasThere2016]

Agree with you first part but I am not sure Shaw has the ability to step up? I really do hope he does but cannot see it. If we go into the new season relying on Doidge, Flo and Shaw we will struggle if Doidge gets injured.

This. We need one minimum and two maximum new strikers IMHO

[J-C]

I wonder if young lads like Stirling will be looked at in midfield, seemingly done fairly well the other night.

[Since452]

We could do with a signing or two before .net decends into age verifying chaos

[A Hi-Bee]

I wonder if young lads like Stirling will be looked at in midfield, seemingly done fairly well the other night.

All for us bringing on youngsters but when we get to the business end of the table we will need more than this, we do need to bring in at least 3 more perhaps a couple of loan players would get us onwards, not sure if Hecky can pull rabbits out of a hat like Stubbsy could.

[GloryGlory]

I wonder if young lads like Stirling will be looked at in midfield, seemingly done fairly well the other night.

If he's ready, probably. Otherwise, no.

[Lago]

No change to player budget following Ron's take over, according to BBC website.

[J-C]

If he's ready, probably. Otherwise, no.

There has to come time when these lads are ready, look at Porteous last season, sometimes it just clicks with these guys, we're not talking about starting them but as backup.

[A Hi-Bee]

There has to come time when these lads are ready, look at Porteous last season, sometimes it just clicks with these guys, we're not talking about starting them but as backup.

They are all ready back-up.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

He was finished long before he came here - ask any Palace supporter.

He's always been Finnish!

[J-C]

All for us bringing on youngsters but when we get to the business end of the table we will need more than this, we do need to bring in at least 3 more perhaps a couple of loan players would get us onwards, not sure if Hecky can pull rabbits out of a hat like Stubbsy could.

If Slivka is going, he was only really a backup anyway not a starter, we still a 1st choice mid.

[Ozyhibby]

They are all ready back-up.

I thought they all struggled v Arbroath but there were three of them in there together.



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[Unseen work]

Would I take McGeouch back? Yes

Hes a fantastic player and would add real quality however he would probably be one of if not our highest earner and is not the type of player that we need at this moment in time.

Unfortunatley our budget only stretches so far and we need to prioritise positions and the style of player we bring in. A midfielder that can defend and get about the pitch is key for the team defensively but also as it allows the forward players to concentrate on what they’re good at.

In an ideal world we could get him, a defensive midfielder, McNulty and potentially one more.

Affording it is another issue.

[Stuart93]

No change to player budget following Ron's take over, according to BBC website.

I’d have been more surprised if PH came out and said he had a lot more money to spend tbh

[jacomo]

Would I take McGeouch back? Yes

Hes a fantastic player and would add real quality however he would probably be one of if not our highest earner and is not the type of player that we need at this moment in time.

Unfortunatley our budget only stretches so far and we need to prioritise positions and the style of player we bring in. A midfielder that can defend and get about the pitch is key for the team defensively but also as it allows the forward players to concentrate on what they’re good at.

In an ideal world we could get him, a defensive midfielder, McNulty and potentially one more.

Affording it is another issue.


You’ve lost me.

We need good central midfielders and Dylan is a good central midfielder.

Remember when him and SJM went up against Celtc as the central players in a 442? We won 2-0.

Or when Dylan played in the SCF?

[GloryGlory]

I’d have been more surprised if PH came out and said he had a lot more money to spend tbh

Channelling his inner Harry Enfield. Loadsamoney! :greengrin

[Unseen work]

You’ve lost me.

We need good central midfielders and Dylan is a good central midfielder.

Remember when him and SJM went up against Celtc as the central players in a 442? We won 2-0.

Or when Dylan played in the SCF?

He is a very good centre mid, but we need balance and players that can do the other side of the game.

When did we beat Celtic 2-0 with them 2 centre mid in a 442? Genuinely can’t remember. I remember the 2-1 game when MacLaren and Slivka scored? Also think that was a 352 that game iirc with Swanson in the hole, Boyle and Stevenson as wing backs.

Anyway.....ifplayed in a 2 with McGinn, the difference is he would not have McGinn, he would have Mallan or Allan with him in there. McGinn would cover a lot of ground, win the ball back, drive the team on where as McGeouch would play the role of dropping deep.

We need a good team, not just a group of good players.

[Stuart93]

Mackie signed a new deal

[Billy Whizz]

Mackie signed a new deal

Think Bingo posted on here that his agent was at ER last Friday😄

[bingo70]

Think Bingo posted on here that his agent was at ER last Friday😄

Good point.

Great scoop from me.

[HoboHarry]

Good point.

Great scoop from me.
Natural successor to The Cat.......

[Billy Whizz]

Good point.

Great scoop from me.

Although you thought we were singing Liam Burt😜

[Lago]

Natural successor to The Cat.......
And look where he ended up :greengrin

[Nicho87]

With slivka hopefully being told time to search pastures new. Think we need to complete the squad, defensive midfielder, central midfielder who will push Allan, Mallan, and a centre forward.

still think, shaw away on loan might happen, whittaker released.

[Bob Box Fish]

With Whittaker being one of the top earners wonder if there’s any chance he would take a pay off?

With James available at RB, Sean Mackie new deal / covering left and Hecky let Milligan go who was a far bet footballer what need is there for him now ?

[bingo70]

Although you thought we were singing Liam Burt😜

Transfer window no closed yet.

If we sign Burt as well I’ll be unbearable.

[PH91]

He is a very good centre mid, but we need balance and players that can do the other side of the game.

When did we beat Celtic 2-0 with them 2 centre mid in a 442? Genuinely can’t remember. I remember the 2-1 game when MacLaren and Slivka scored? Also think that was a 352 that game iirc with Swanson in the hole, Boyle and Stevenson as wing backs.

Anyway.....ifplayed in a 2 with McGinn, the difference is he would not have McGinn, he would have Mallan or Allan with him in there. McGinn would cover a lot of ground, win the ball back, drive the team on where as McGeouch would play the role of dropping deep.

We need a good team, not just a group of good players.

Hit the nail on the head!

As said before, no one is arguing mcgeouch is not a good player, just not the type of player we need right now, especially as a high earner.

A positive from not going for mcgeouch is that Hecky has said he has looked at him and passed, which suggests that he has a clear plan and recognises the qualities that the team is missing, something that didn't seem to happen last year.

[Cat Stanton]

With slivka hopefully being told time to search pastures new. Think we need to complete the squad, defensive midfielder, central midfielder who will push Allan, Mallan, and a centre forward.

still think, shaw away on loan might happen, whittaker released.

Defensive midfielder is a must. How about Bartley? Oh, no, wait a minute, we let him go.

OK then, what about Milligan? Oh, hold on, we let him go too.

Hmmm.

[Heisenberg]

Defensive midfielder is a must. How about Bartley? Oh, no, wait a minute, we let him go.

OK then, what about Milligan? Oh, hold on, we let him go too.

Hmmm.

Neither of them are good enough to play every week and have us challenging for top two/three.

[Callum_62]

Defensive midfielder is a must. How about Bartley? Oh, no, wait a minute, we let him go.

OK then, what about Milligan? Oh, hold on, we let him go too.

Hmmm.Maybe we are targeting better?

Hmmm.

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[MWHIBBIES]

Defensive midfielder is a must. How about Bartley? Oh, no, wait a minute, we let him go.

OK then, what about Milligan? Oh, hold on, we let him go too.

Hmmm.

Yes, freeing up wages for better.

[Iain G]

Defensive midfielder is a must. How about Bartley? Oh, no, wait a minute, we let him go.

OK then, what about Milligan? Oh, hold on, we let him go too.

Hmmm.

If you bother to read what Hecky wants from his deep lying midfielder maybe this would be a less flippant post?

[Brightside]

Defensive midfielder is a must. How about Bartley? Oh, no, wait a minute, we let him go.

OK then, what about Milligan? Oh, hold on, we let him go too.

Hmmm.

Both of them are average.

[malcolm]

With Whittaker being one of the top earners wonder if there’s any chance he would take a pay off?

With James available at RB, Sean Mackie new deal / covering left and Hecky let Milligan go who was a far bet footballer what need is there for him now ?

Allegedly he opted for a low wage/long contract so that would not be true

[eastmainsmsh]

I'd like mulumbu

[04Sauzee]

I'd like mulumbu

Always looked good against Hibs, he's another one though who isn't getting any younger though which would be my only concern

[BlackSheep]

Always looked good against Hibs, he's another one though who isn't getting any younger though which would be my only concern

While true, we only need a decent DM for this season at least, who knows who would become available next summer or even January... not every player can be a young prospect with a sell on value...

If mulumbu is freed then we would silly not to.

[Unseen work]

One of the main things Heckingbottom has banged on about a lot is that he wants players to play for us, he will speak to them and try do a deal but he wants players desperate to be here and have a real drive and enthusiasm.

I imagine this will put him off Dylan as it seems quite apparent he doesn’t want to be here.

[Stuart93]

I'd like mulumbu

I’d definitely take him if he can keep fit, getting on a bit but a very good player at this level

[Nicho87]

Just throwing this out there.

Fraser Fyvie - free agent.

I’d personally take him.

[Franck Stanton]

I'd like mulumbu

Great shout, take him in a heartbeat. Played well in a team that finished in 3rd place last season. Ok, may be getting on a bit, however we need experience as well as youthful exuberance.
Hope we are considering him.

[Robbo6-2]

Just throwing this out there.

Fraser Fyvie - free agent.

I’d personally take him.

It's not 2014 anymore mate

[Michael]

Just throwing this out there.

Fraser Fyvie - free agent.

I’d personally take him.

Not the player he once was due to injury unfortunately.

[Nicho87]

It's not 2014 anymore mate

Your spot on but if he had not been daft and took his contract under Lennon he would be in the last year of his contract.

[The_Horde]

Just throwing this out there.

Fraser Fyvie - free agent.

I’d personally take him.

You'd take a guy who's not good enough for either of the Dundee clubs?

[DetroitHibs]

Be interesting to see how many players that actually leave us go on to become better players. Players like Gaz and Deeks careers didn't flourish. Brown, Thomson and Whittaker did well. Very rarely do we release a player and see them go on to better things though. Fyvie would be two steps back.

[Ozyhibby]

With Whittaker being one of the top earners wonder if there’s any chance he would take a pay off?

With James available at RB, Sean Mackie new deal / covering left and Hecky let Milligan go who was a far bet footballer what need is there for him now ?

There has been no need for him for a while now. He’s here because he won’t get a deal anywhere else unfortunately.


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[Haymaker]

Just throwing this out there.

Fraser Fyvie - free agent.

I’d personally take him.

Didn't he sign for cove rangers or something? Or am I thinking of someone else?

[sauzee=legend]

Didn't he sign for cove rangers or something? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Pretty sure he had a contract offer from them, the dundee offered him a trial so hasn’t signed anything with cove yet.
But haven’t read anywhere about how his dundee trial went.

[MacGruber]

We haven't made a single signing under Ron and the rumours have also dried up..... tighter with the purse strings than Rod Petrie

[we are hibs]

Fyvie would be a dreadful signing

[Centre Hawf]

I would happily take Mulumbu for a season and see how it goes. He could be the perfect foil we need for Mallan and Allan to flourish, but I would like to get someone else in a bit younger to replace him after the season or two he's with us as he's not getting any younger.

Fyvie I think would be a step backwards at this point now due to injuries etc. Which is a shame as I think had he stayed for that Premiership season with Allan McGeouch and McGinn he would have probably been a constant presence in our squad and would have been perfect for us.

[Robbo6-2]

We aren't signing Fyvie.

Sadly hes knackered with his knee and hasn't won a deal with Dundee.

I suspect he will sign for Cove, and continue his career of selling cars outside of football.

Shame because he was a really good footballer. He should of just signed that deal.

[MikeyS]

Be interesting to see how many players that actually leave us go on to become better players. Players like Gaz and Deeks careers didn't flourish. Brown, Thomson and Whittaker did well. Very rarely do we release a player and see them go on to better things though. Fyvie would be two steps back.

I would argue that GOC playing in Russia & The Prem was definitely a step up in his career, no denying it didbt end the way it should've but he did flourish after leaving us.

[Centre Hawf]

I would argue that GOC playing in Russia & The Prem was definitely a step up in his career, no denying it didbt end the way it should've but he did flourish after leaving us.

GOC made daft choices in his life that effected the tail end of his career but he certainly achieved more than some other young prospects did and a Russian Cup is no mean feat, and although it was probably financial reasons why he chose to go there in the first place it was a brave move all the same. Compare it to Deeks career away from us it's night and day who had the better time of it.

I'd say those that had better/good careers away from us were:
Brown
Griffiths
Thomson
Whittaker
Caldwell


Those are just off the top of my head.

[frazeHFC]

Steven Fletcher too ^


Surprised if we let Slivka go. Good squad player, and especially surprised as we are so light in that area.

[Since452]

Steven Fletcher too ^


Surprised if we let Slivka go. Good squad player, and especially surprised as we are so light in that area.

Yup me too. Slivka is a stong athletic type. Our midfield options look very lightweight to me at the moment.

[hibbyfraelibby]

I continually read that some posters suggest that the corners at Easter Rd should be filled in. While great in theory if you look at the stadium site this would be problematic due to boundary restrictions as both the South and Famous Five are designed with corners that taper off to so the stands remain within the boundary. Land adjacent to the stadium which also serves as the public highway does not belong to Hibs. Possibly two corners could be filled in but I'm no expert.

I think you are right re the North stand but I think the South Stand situation is different. It may be the same shape(cheap option of not drawing up a new set of plans but does the club not actually own the roadway up to th back of the East so could theoretically do a full height i fill where the TV trucks park? Add that to linked up North East and you probably add 3000 seats.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Doesn't mean you can't have the corners filled though. Hampden being an example.

Hampden has underground access

[Eyrie]

Yup me too. Slivka is a stong athletic type. Our midfield options look very lightweight to me at the moment.

He rarely plays that way though.

We need at least one defensive minded midfielder in the squad and preferably two. There is a vacancy to sign one and the other could be Stirling or a new player, in which case Slivka may move on to make room.

I'll miss him for his cracking goals against the Ugly Sisters but after two years I wish I'd seen more of those moments. I haven't because he hasn't earned the playing time.

[DTS]

Dabrowski has went on loan to Cowdenbeath for the season

[Greencore]

Dabrowski has went on loan to Cowdenbeath for the season

Good move for him, heard a lot about him.

[DTS]

Good move for him, heard a lot about him.

I can’t say I agree, yes he’ll get first team football but I can’t imagine he will develop much in league 2. Bright side is he’ll still be training with us

[Heisenberg]

I can’t say I agree, yes he’ll get first team football but I can’t imagine he will develop much in league 2. Bright side is he’ll still be training with us

I think he’ll develop tremendously in League 2. Proper competitive games every week with crosses flying in on top of him from every angle. Seems a good move.

[Greencore]

I can’t say I agree, yes he’ll get first team football but I can’t imagine he will develop much in league 2. Bright side is he’ll still be training with us

Porto did well for Edinburgh City in league 2.

[Centre Hawf]

Porto did well for Edinburgh City in league 2.

It can be a great place to cut your teeth. I don't really subscribe to the need of being booted by older players like the old days etc but I think for a Defender and Goalkeeper it can be really beneficial playing against the more experienced guys who have maybe lost their legs. Porteous could keep up with someone like David Goodwillie physically but his experience of finding space and how to track his movement would be the one that would educate him.

[AB Hibby]

He rarely plays that way though.

We need at least one defensive minded midfielder in the squad and preferably two. There is a vacancy to sign one and the other could be Stirling or a new player, in which case Slivka may move on to make room.

I'll miss him for his cracking goals against the Ugly Sisters but after two years I wish I'd seen more of those moments. I haven't because he hasn't earned the playing time.

I can't decide about slivka. He's no hard tackling midfielder but compared to Mallen he can at least tackle. We need proper balanced midfield but last season we were ***** in the middle.

[Haymaker]

Pretty sure he had a contract offer from them, the dundee offered him a trial so hasn’t signed anything with cove yet.
But haven’t read anywhere about how his dundee trial went.

I thought he'd signed. Cheers for clearing up!

[DetroitHibs]

GOC made daft choices in his life that effected the tail end of his career but he certainly achieved more than some other young prospects did and a Russian Cup is no mean feat, and although it was probably financial reasons why he chose to go there in the first place it was a brave move all the same. Compare it to Deeks career away from us it's night and day who had the better time of it.

I'd say those that had better/good careers away from us were:
Brown
Griffiths
Thomson
Whittaker
Caldwell


Those are just off the top of my head.


That's a fair list, another one that I'd grudgingly add is Paul Hartley

[Centre Hawf]

That's a fair list, another one that I'd grudgingly add is Paul Hartley

Yeah sadly he turned into the type player we actually missed for a while when he was at his peak with Hearts.

As someone else mentioned Steven Fletcher has gone on to do very well, some might even say better than perhaps his spell at Hibs initially suggested?

McGinn is on track to do very well as it stands.

David Murphy carved out a solid career post Hibs and even won a League Cup, just a shame injuries put an end to it early.

Sol Bamba has done well and was a standout for Cardiff last year.

Stokes (when he left to go to Celtic) achieved a fair bit.

Ricardo Vaz Te, done well for West Ham and even got them promoted.

Steven Dobbie is probably one of the surprising names that could be added to the list, multiple promotions.

[Nicho87]

Ivan Sproule did very well at Bristol city. Colin Noah went to be very successful in the hit tv show as Mr Tumble.

[Green Reaper]

GOC made daft choices in his life that effected the tail end of his career but he certainly achieved more than some other young prospects did and a Russian Cup is no mean feat, and although it was probably financial reasons why he chose to go there in the first place it was a brave move all the same. Compare it to Deeks career away from us it's night and day who had the better time of it.

I'd say those that had better/good careers away from us were:
Brown
Griffiths
Thomson
Whittaker
Caldwell


Those are just off the top of my head.

Collins too

[LancsHibs]

Des Bremner went on to lift the European Cup after leaving us! As did Ronnie Simpson

[DetroitHibs]

If you start mentioning all the dregs that left us and went down hill...... Let’s just say it can be pretty depressing reading

[Wakeyhibee]

Des Bremner went on to lift the European Cup after leaving us! As did Ronnie Simpson

Not sure if Cropley was still there then but he played in 2 of the 3 games in the 1977 league cup final saga v Everton, which they eventually won

In goal also was a much younger John Burridge

[SMAXXA]

How long has Horgan got left on his deal I’d be looking to extend it if less than 2 years

[04Sauzee]

How long has Horgan got left on his deal I’d be looking to extend it if less than 2 years

Transfermarket has it as 31/05/21 so 2 years

[mayo hibee]

Two years still to run for Horgan. No panic yet but would like to see him sign a new deal this season at some point. If he takes his end of season form into the new season there will be interest in him come January.

As long as he's left in his best position on the wing he'll have a good year I reckon. Was played out of position through the middle too often by Lennon.

[CentreLine]

Add Bobby Johnstone, Gordon Smith, Joe Baker, John McNamee, Colin Stein, Peter Marinello, Peter Cormack, John Brownlie, Thomson Allan, Craig Paterson, Andy Goram, Pat McGinley, Kevin Thomson
Even Pat Stanton

All achieved honours in the game after leaving us

[SMAXXA]

Two years still to run for Horgan. No panic yet but would like to see him sign a new deal this season at some point. If he takes his end of season form into the new season there will be interest in him come January.

As long as he's left in his best position on the wing he'll have a good year I reckon. Was played out of position through the middle too often by Lennon.

Agree with that. I think he’s a fantastic player and one of few that has a genuine ability to win a match for you. Love players that are direct and want to beat a player and potentially having him and Boyle on the wings would give us a huge threat

[truehibernian]

Agree with that. I think he’s a fantastic player and one of few that has a genuine ability to win a match for you. Love players that are direct and want to beat a player and potentially having him and Boyle on the wings would give us a huge threat

I'm greedy and would like one more, pacy winger in the mould of Barker. Hibs are great to watch these last few seasons due to introducing the likes of Boyle, Barker, Horgan, etc. Coupled with the fact that Boyle could be away with Australia from September it would be nice to have cover.

[The Leith Dutch]

I can't decide about slivka. He's no hard tackling midfielder but compared to Mallen he can at least tackle. We need proper balanced midfield but last season we were ***** in the middle.

I'm not worried right now as we've still got time in the window but you've nailed the two things that are worrying me right now - midfield and balance.
I think that last window we signed good players but lacked an obvious formation and a balanced team.

For a sizeable chunk of games next season I think we should be looking to play two proper Centre midfielders who are there to boss the midfield and give us a platform to play from.
I don't think either of those players are at the club right now. Slivka with improved consistency maybe. Mallan I feel we're trying to make him something he's not.

At the moment Allan is the only nailed on starter in a nailed on position forward of the defence.
Boyle and Horgan on form merit a place but other formational considerations may change where (or possibly even if) they play.

Like I said - I'm not worried but I think right now we're definitely one and possibly two away from the players who are nailed on starters in midfield.

[3pm]

How long has Horgan got left on his deal I’d be looking to extend it if less than 2 years

I don’t believe Horgan has done enough to warrant an extension at this stage.

I know he had a good record last year but there’s more to come IMO.

[The 90+2]

Tony Caig played for Newcastle after leaving us. Probably the most shocking development in football history.

[MWHIBBIES]

I don’t believe Horgan has done enough to warrant an extension at this stage.

I know he had a good record last year but there’s more to come IMO.

He's done enough that losing him for cheap would be really crap.

[04Sauzee]

He's done enough that losing him for cheap would be really crap.

Exactly if he has a good season then next season he's entering his last season at Easter Road so we'd have to be looking at extending his contract and if he doesn't we have to cash in or risk losing him for nothing

[Allant1981]

Tony Caig played for Newcastle after leaving us. Probably the most shocking development in football history.

He didnt play any games for newcastle

[brog]

Add Bobby Johnstone, Gordon Smith, Joe Baker, John McNamee, Colin Stein, Peter Marinello, Peter Cormack, John Brownlie, Thomson Allan, Craig Paterson, Andy Goram, Pat McGinley, Kevin Thomson
Even Pat Stanton

All achieved honours in the game after leaving us

I think the original point was about players who were released by us. Gordon Smith, who then did same after Hearts, & Thomson Allan possibly fit that bill as does Jack Reilly. There's not many though & these 3 examples were 50 years or more ago. Likes of Strachan don't count as they were never on a pro contract.

[SMAXXA]

Exactly if he has a good season then next season he's entering his last season at Easter Road so we'd have to be looking at extending his contract and if he doesn't we have to cash in or risk losing him for nothing

Exactly my point originally if we are giving players joining the club 3 year deals it makes no sense to have one of our better players on a shorter one who I think will continue to get better

[Ozyhibby]

It can be a great place to cut your teeth. I don't really subscribe to the need of being booted by older players like the old days etc but I think for a Defender and Goalkeeper it can be really beneficial playing against the more experienced guys who have maybe lost their legs. Porteous could keep up with someone like David Goodwillie physically but his experience of finding space and how to track his movement would be the one that would educate him.

It’s not really a case of being booted by older players. It’s about playing against better players. League 2 is a higher standard than u20’s. Most of league 2 are former u20’s players who have got better but not enough to go full time.
League 2 teams have been smashing the u20’s teams in the challenge cup.


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[badabing67]

Add Bobby Johnstone, Gordon Smith, Joe Baker, John McNamee, Colin Stein, Peter Marinello, Peter Cormack, John Brownlie, Thomson Allan, Craig Paterson, Andy Goram, Pat McGinley, Kevin Thomson
Even Pat Stanton

All achieved honours in the game after leaving us

Don't forget Scottie Broon, John Collins. Whitty even played in a EUFA cup final

[CockneyRebel]

I don’t believe Horgan has done enough to warrant an extension at this stage.

I know he had a good record last year but there’s more to come IMO.


IMO that sentence seems to explain exactly why the poster suggested a contract extension.

[3pm]

[/B]IMO that sentence seems to explain exactly why the poster suggested a contract extension.

All opinions but unless he was on a ridiculously cheap wage, like Boyle appeared to be when he was awarded a contract extension, then I don’t think he warrants a new deal at this time.

[Solonleith1]

I'm excited to see horgans development under heckingbottom. He was a different player than under Lennon. Cant help but feel Lennon stifled his development a bit. He was a key player second half of last season. If his form is the same start of this season definitely worth another deal. Losing him on the cheap would be a blow.

[hfc rd]

I'm excited to see horgans development under heckingbottom. He was a different player than under Lennon. Cant help but feel Lennon stifled his development a bit. He was a key player second half of last season. If his form is the same start of this season definitely worth another deal. Losing him on the cheap would be a blow.


100% this. He’s an excellent player and one that I hope we tie down to a new deal.

He was by far our best player yesterday against Dunfermline. Every time he had the ball, you knew something was going to happen.

[KeithTheHibby]

He's done enough that losing him for cheap would be really crap.

I would like to see him playing past the 70 minute mark. Too many times last season he was hanging out his arse by that stage.
I am not convinced he was fit enough to last 90 minutes.
With the money we invested he should be in the first 11 every week, not coming off the bench as an impact player.
Big season for him so as far as extending his contract goes I don't think this warrants discussion for at least another 6 months.

[Tug Wilson]

I'm not worried right now as we've still got time in the window but you've nailed the two things that are worrying me right now - midfield and balance.
I think that last window we signed good players but lacked an obvious formation and a balanced team.

For a sizeable chunk of games next season I think we should be looking to play two proper Centre midfielders who are there to boss the midfield and give us a platform to play from.
I don't think either of those players are at the club right now. Slivka with improved consistency maybe. Mallan I feel we're trying to make him something he's not.

At the moment Allan is the only nailed on starter in a nailed on position forward of the defence.
Boyle and Horgan on form merit a place but other formational considerations may change where (or possibly even if) they play.

Like I said - I'm not worried but I think right now we're definitely one and possibly two away from the players who are nailed on starters in midfield.

Totally agree.

I think that the fact that Ryan Moon is on trial shows that Heckingbottom knows that we need at least one more striker. Whether this is Moon and whether he would be as well as McNulty or instead of remains to be seen.

Also the offer to Ojo shows that that central midfield role has been identified as needing filled. I felt that Ojo sounded perfect for the role but if that deal is dead then I fully expect us to still be in the market for a player for the role. I would also think that this is over and above if Omeonga returns.

With the English window for Premiership and Championship players closing on 8 August then there maybe some better players come on to our radar after this date. For instance if McNulty has not signed for a Championship club by that date then I would expect us to be able to get him rather than a League One club. There will be a few others in similar situations.

We still have the best part of 2 months of our window to go. There is definitely still work to do on the squad but I think that it is all well in hand.

[J-C]

I'm excited to see horgans development under heckingbottom. He was a different player than under Lennon. Cant help but feel Lennon stifled his development a bit. He was a key player second half of last season. If his form is the same start of this season definitely worth another deal. Losing him on the cheap would be a blow.

Lennon tried to turn him into an attacking mid behind the strikers due to not having anyone else to play there, he's a wide attacking player better off the left but can play right, keep players in their natural positions and it's amazing how much better the team can be.

[we are hibs]

Horgan is 26. How much more can he develop as a winger? He must be at or reaching his peak by that age

[Chefki Kuqi]

Horgan is 26. How much more can he develop as a winger? He must be at or reaching his peak by that age

Good thing he’s already a good winger.

[The 90+2]

He didnt play any games for newcastle

Played in friendlies and sat on the bench in the EPL.

[SMAXXA]

Horgan is 26. How much more can he develop as a winger? He must be at or reaching his peak by that age

Again that’s the point he’s coming into his prime and if he has a brilliant season he will no doubt have lots of suitors. Anyway no real issue he has 2 years so let’s hope he blows away the opposition this season and will no doubt get that new deal

[The_Horde]

Lennon tried to turn him into an attacking mid behind the strikers due to not having anyone else to play there, he's a wide attacking player better off the left but can play right, keep players in their natural positions and it's amazing how much better the team can be.

Actually thought Lennon was putting him there to give us some energy. Was working when we had Boyle and Agyepong fit at the start of the season!

[CockneyRebel]

I would like to see him playing past the 70 minute mark. Too many times last season he was hanging out his arse by that stage.
I am not convinced he was fit enough to last 90 minutes.
With the money we invested he should be in the first 11 every week, not coming off the bench as an impact player.
Big season for him so as far as extending his contract goes I don't think this warrants discussion for at least another 6 months.


Bit of a catch 22. If he has a really good first 6 months his agent would probably be looking for much more than we could get him for just now. His fitness levels at present maybe his best, who knows. We will have to trust the manager on this one.