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DarlingtonHibee
08-08-2019, 06:29 PM
The pessimism on here is a joke at times. We have a forward thinking, ambitious, young manager who has put his neck on the line in shaping our squad with players from a market that he knows well and clearly has faith in. I applaud the decision to back our manager and "go for it" with his plans. It is not without its risks, but the rewards could be phenomenal. Scoffing at lower league English players? Wake up... 6 of the Scot Prem teams are usually so bad it's laughable. There is loads to be positive about with our new team. The experienced core is still there. The new players are from similar experiences and backgrounds which should foster a good team spirit. Heck is our leader, and Ron Gordon has only had half a transfer window, give them both your full backing.
Stop making sense...
Billy Whizz
08-08-2019, 06:30 PM
So Did Hornby or Moult go out on loan before the window slammed shut ?
If not does that mean IF they move it can’t be to EPL or Championship clubs but free to go to Leagues 1 or 2, abroad or Scotland ?
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You’re right with your assumption.
Speedway
08-08-2019, 06:33 PM
When did the term ‘recruit’ replace the term ‘signings’?
04Sauzee
08-08-2019, 06:35 PM
This is only Heckingbottoms first transfer window, I'm sure it will be his 3rd window before he truly has the team he would like.
Gerrard is now into his 3rd window
Levein has had 4 or 5?
McInnes has had god knows how many.
I'm comfortable where we are and if as is reported Middleton comes in we will be better equipped in the attacking third and I'm still positive we will get in another 2 anyway.
Joe6-2
08-08-2019, 06:38 PM
Do u think Sky Sports News will do a deadline special for Scotland on the 2nd of September?
You are funny!
They’ve lost sight of the fact they are British, not just English
Real Emerald
08-08-2019, 06:38 PM
When did the term ‘recruit’ replace the term ‘signings’?
No idea but I think recruit probably replaced press gang around about the time Hibs were formed 😂 My history ain’t that good so could be 100’s of years out!
Torto7
08-08-2019, 06:43 PM
This is only Heckingbottoms first transfer window, I'm sure it will be his 3rd window before he truly has the team he would like.
Gerrard is now into his 3rd window
Levein has had 4 or 5?
McInnes has had god knows how many.
I'm comfortable where we are and if as is reported Middleton comes in we will be better equipped in the attacking third and I'm still positive we will get in another 2 anyway.
I wonder if he still would've signed Allan if the deal wasn't already pretty much done? It's an interesting one to ponder.
Speedway
08-08-2019, 06:46 PM
I wonder if he still would've signed Allan if the deal wasn't already pretty much done? It's an interesting one to ponder.
No chance.
Torto7
08-08-2019, 06:47 PM
No chance.
He would know the fans would love it though. Apparently he and Stockdale discussed McGeoch coming back.
Speedway
08-08-2019, 06:49 PM
He would know the fans would love it though. Apparently he and Stockdale discussed McGeoch coming back.
Discussed - yes
Signed - no
Chip shop Joe
08-08-2019, 06:55 PM
When did the term ‘recruit’ replace the term ‘signings’?
About the same time that Up top replaced Up front!
jacomo
08-08-2019, 06:57 PM
Joking? Folk underrate Maguire so much, great player.
The world’s most expensive defender.
The world’s best defender? Not a chance.
He is a good player but Utd have been rinsed once again.
HoboHarry
08-08-2019, 06:58 PM
The world’s most expensive defender.
The world’s best defender? Not a chance.
He is a good player but Utd have been rinsed once again.
:agree: I'm wondering how many clubs would take Maguire before Van Dijk if they were given the choice.....
BSEJVT
08-08-2019, 07:03 PM
Halkett is superb.
Slight exaggeration perhaps?
Just as a matter of interest have you ever described a Hibs player as superb?
Halkett is fine, but truly there isn't a superb player playing in Scotland at the moment and relatively few in England either.
The amount of exaggerated nonsense I read on here about Hearts and Aberdeen and their signings and how Hibs need to step up to the plate and lack ambition would give you the boak.
This board is rammed full of folk who cant say a good word about Hibs and criticise the club incessantly whilst creaming their pants over Hearts & Aberdeen.
If the background colours weren't green and white you could be excused somedays for wondering if you had stumbled onto their boards.
For the record, in the last 5 years, neither has had players of the quality of McGinn, or McGeouch to name but two.
Halkett will also have to push past the car crash that is Souttar from his own club alone before getting anywhere near a Scotland call up.
Try bigging up one of our players once in a while it is surprisingly uplifting
Cabbage-Patch
08-08-2019, 07:13 PM
The pessimism on here is a joke at times. We have a forward thinking, ambitious, young manager who has put his neck on the line in shaping our squad with players from a market that he knows well and clearly has faith in. I applaud the decision to back our manager and "go for it" with his plans. It is not without its risks, but the rewards could be phenomenal. Scoffing at lower league English players? Wake up... 6 of the Scot Prem teams are usually so bad it's laughable. There is loads to be positive about with our new team. The experienced core is still there. The new players are from similar experiences and backgrounds which should foster a good team spirit. Heck is our leader, and Ron Gordon has only had half a transfer window, give them both your full backing.
Agree with this 100%. Came on here for some transfer rumours but instead I've had to scroll through page after page of bedwetting pishery.
Onceinawhile
08-08-2019, 07:28 PM
Of course halkett is superb. Do you think a non superb defender could have kept Aberdeen down to only 3 goals?
The 90+2
08-08-2019, 07:34 PM
So Did Hornby or Moult go out on loan before the window slammed shut ?
If not does that mean IF they move it can’t be to EPL or Championship clubs but free to go to Leagues 1 or 2, abroad or Scotland ?
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Yes, all correct.
The_Horde
08-08-2019, 07:37 PM
Of course halkett is superb. Do you think a non superb defender could have kept Aberdeen down to only 3 goals?
So you'd base the talents of one defender on the amount of goals a team has scored?
HoboHarry
08-08-2019, 07:39 PM
So you'd base the talents of one defender on the amount of goals a team has scored?
I think you may have missed the thing that just shot over your head :greengrin
Tyler Durden
08-08-2019, 07:41 PM
The world’s most expensive defender.
The world’s best defender? Not a chance.
He is a good player but Utd have been rinsed once again.
I’m not a Utd fan by any stretch but how exactly have they been rinsed? £85m is well within their reach and Leicester were resolute that they weren’t going to accept any less. Would Man U have been better keeping their money? Who was a better value alternative?
As a % of Utd’s turnover it’s not a problem. They have serious issues in their recruiting which will take years to solve (look at how few players they’ve managed to get rid of this summer) but the players they have bought will definitely improve them and bring good attitudes and work rate
The_Horde
08-08-2019, 07:46 PM
Slight exaggeration perhaps?
Just as a matter of interest have you ever described a Hibs player as superb?
Halkett is fine, but truly there isn't a superb player playing in Scotland at the moment and relatively few in England either.
The amount of exaggerated nonsense I read on here about Hearts and Aberdeen and their signings and how Hibs need to step up to the plate and lack ambition would give you the boak.
This board is rammed full of folk who cant say a good word about Hibs and criticise the club incessantly whilst creaming their pants over Hearts & Aberdeen.
If the background colours weren't green and white you could be excused somedays for wondering if you had stumbled onto their boards.
For the record, in the last 5 years, neither has had players of the quality of McGinn, or McGeouch to name but two.
Halkett will also have to push past the car crash that is Souttar from his own club alone before getting anywhere near a Scotland call up.
Try bigging up one of our players once in a while it is surprisingly uplifting
That's a nice rant about whether I do or don't talk up hibs players.
How did you manage to come to the conclusion that I don't without my input?
Jones28
08-08-2019, 07:48 PM
He stood out against every single opposition. Including the big two.
Really? Every single one you say? And you’ve watched these games?
The_Horde
08-08-2019, 07:51 PM
Really? Every single one you say? And you’ve watched these games?
A lot of them, yes.
If I was saying these things about a player who didn't play for hearts, would the comments I'm receiving be the same?
A lot of people are irate that hearts might've signed a good player.
Hibs aren't the only team in the league guys.
Hermit Crab
08-08-2019, 07:58 PM
A lot of them, yes.
If I was saying these things about a player who didn't play for hearts, would the comments I'm receiving be the same?
A lot of people are irate that hearts might've signed a good player.
Hibs aren't the only team in the league guys.
They've signed more than one.
Jones28
08-08-2019, 08:00 PM
A lot of them, yes.
If I was saying these things about a player who didn't play for hearts, would the comments I'm receiving be the same?
A lot of people are irate that hearts might've signed a good player.
Hibs aren't the only team in the league guys.
I’m certainly not irate, I’m just taken aback at how highly you rate him. I’ve seen him on several occasions both on tv and in person and couldn’t honestly say I noticed anything particularly special.
pontius pilate
08-08-2019, 08:01 PM
I’m not a Utd fan by any stretch but how exactly have they been rinsed? £85m is well within their reach and Leicester were resolute that they weren’t going to accept any less. Would Man U have been better keeping their money? Who was a better value alternative?
As a % of Utd’s turnover it’s not a problem. They have serious issues in their recruiting which will take years to solve (look at how few players they’ve managed to get rid of this summer) but the players they have bought will definitely improve them and bring good attitudes and work rate
Well if they were proactive enough they could have had alderweireld at £25m. Imho he is a better defender than Maguire and let's face it the whole world in football terms knew he had a £25m buy out clause. The same could be said for any team coming in for him now they will have to pay top dollar as I can see home signing a 1 year extension
The_Horde
08-08-2019, 08:03 PM
They've signed more than one.
The Hibs.net consensus is that they've signed average players and the only good ones are injury prone anyway so who cares.
King Cosell
08-08-2019, 08:05 PM
So Did Hornby or Moult go out on loan before the window slammed shut ?
If not does that mean IF they move it can’t be to EPL or Championship clubs but free to go to Leagues 1 or 2, abroad or Scotland ?
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Preston have sold a forward to Sheff Utd and brought in David Nugent. Can't see Moult moving.
Jonnyboy
08-08-2019, 08:12 PM
He stood out against every single opposition. Including the big two.
The only way you could know that for sure is if you watched every one of their games. I'd have thought you'd be watching Hibs on those days?
BILLYHIBS
08-08-2019, 08:15 PM
I thought The Rangers looked very good tonight
Hopefully they will still be knackered on Sunday
I would like to see us bring 2-3 quality players a defender a midfielder and a striker into the squad maybe in the loans market
We are still looking light squad wise and even one quality signing would give a boost to ST sales
We have until 2/9/19
Pedantic_Hibee
08-08-2019, 08:18 PM
They've signed more than one.
Somewhere in Musselburgh, in the midst of the above message being composed, the fabric on a pair of cotton boxer shorts have been stretched to within an inch of their elasticated life.
Tyler Durden
08-08-2019, 08:21 PM
Well if they were proactive enough they could have had alderweireld at £25m. Imho he is a better defender than Maguire and let's face it the whole world in football terms knew he had a £25m buy out clause. The same could be said for any team coming in for him now they will have to pay top dollar as I can see home signing a 1 year extension
Alderweireld is 4 years older and was apparently looking for astronomical wages. Having said that, I was a bit surprised that they didn’t sign both of them.
Hermit Crab
08-08-2019, 08:22 PM
The Hibs.net consensus is that they've signed average players and the only good ones are injury prone anyway so who cares.
That'll be that then, they'll get relegated. :aok:
Skipped 3 pages because I can't be arsed reading through all the crap spouted on this shambles of a thread.
So far it looks like we sometimes so and sometimes don't pay fees for players.
It either too early to tell if Hecky's going to be good or the squad is fine and we'll do well.
Seemingly Hearts and Aberdeen are now world beaters with brilliant squads and a superb window.
The only way to get your point over on .net is to either bicker as much as possible or basically just slag off the other poster because you haven't got the brains to argue your point.
If all else fails, just start making puns which will pi,ss off the majority of the posters.
Is this about right?
Alex Trager
08-08-2019, 08:27 PM
That's a nice rant about whether I do or don't talk up hibs players.
How did you manage to come to the conclusion that I don't without my input?
They did ask for your input.
HFC93
08-08-2019, 08:27 PM
I remember posters on here raving about Hearts transfer business last season. Look how that panned out.
Some folk on hibs.net love to big them up. Odd behaviour.
whiskyhibby
08-08-2019, 08:28 PM
Slight exaggeration perhaps?
Just as a matter of interest have you ever described a Hibs player as superb?
Halkett is fine, but truly there isn't a superb player playing in Scotland at the moment and relatively few in England either.
The amount of exaggerated nonsense I read on here about Hearts and Aberdeen and their signings and how Hibs need to step up to the plate and lack ambition would give you the boak.
This board is rammed full of folk who cant say a good word about Hibs and criticise the club incessantly whilst creaming their pants over Hearts & Aberdeen.
If the background colours weren't green and white you could be excused somedays for wondering if you had stumbled onto their boards.
For the record, in the last 5 years, neither has had players of the quality of McGinn, or McGeouch to name but two.
Halkett will also have to push past the car crash that is Souttar from his own club alone before getting anywhere near a Scotland call up.
Try bigging up one of our players once in a while it is surprisingly uplifting
Your assuming that the detractors are Hibs fans...........
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The_Horde
08-08-2019, 08:29 PM
They did ask for your input.
Yep. Then continued to assume what my answer was
BILLYHIBS
08-08-2019, 08:29 PM
Went over to the bounce for half an hour
No bickering there
All quiet and peaceful 😁
whiskyhibby
08-08-2019, 08:30 PM
I remember posters on here raving about Hearts transfer business last season. Look how that panned out.
Some folk on hibs.net love to big them up. Odd behaviour.
The same “Hibs” fans that never seem to participate in a negative or piss take thread regarding HOMOFC....[emoji848][emoji848]
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The_Horde
08-08-2019, 08:31 PM
The only way you could know that for sure is if you watched every one of their games. I'd have thought you'd be watching Hibs on those days?
I seen enough when Hibs were playing other days, against Hibs and also my mate is livi home and away every week. Fans there love him.
Allant1981
08-08-2019, 08:35 PM
I seen enough when Hibs were playing other days, against Hibs and also my mate is livi home and away every week. Fans there love him.
You didnt really see him that much, just admit it!!!
K-Zazu
08-08-2019, 08:39 PM
I really wish we had signed Curtis main. 😉.
This is only Heckingbottoms first transfer window, I'm sure it will be his 3rd window before he truly has the team he would like.
Gerrard is now into his 3rd window
Levein has had 4 or 5?
McInnes has had god knows how many.
I'm comfortable where we are and if as is reported Middleton comes in we will be better equipped in the attacking third and I'm still positive we will get in another 2 anyway.
Your right about Gerrard & he's put a pretty good team together
jacomo
08-08-2019, 08:40 PM
Well if they were proactive enough they could have had alderweireld at £25m. Imho he is a better defender than Maguire and let's face it the whole world in football terms knew he had a £25m buy out clause. The same could be said for any team coming in for him now they will have to pay top dollar as I can see home signing a 1 year extension
Yup, that’s a good option.
I wonder if there are any other value alternatives to the most expensive defender in the world??
blackpoolhibs
08-08-2019, 08:41 PM
I watched every minute of Livi home and away last season on IPTV for insomnia, cant remember any of them?
The_Horde
08-08-2019, 08:44 PM
You didnt really see him that much, just admit it!!!
What does it matter?
I've given my opinion. Does discrediting it make you feel warm and fuzzy inside about hearts having a ***** team again?
Allant1981
08-08-2019, 08:47 PM
What does it matter?
I've given my opinion. Does discrediting it make you feel warm and fuzzy inside about hearts having a ***** team again?
I never once said they had a good team or a bad team, I very rarely see them play as I'm usually watching hibs so wouldnt know.
mjhibby
08-08-2019, 08:58 PM
Agree with this 100%. Came on here for some transfer rumours but instead I've had to scroll through page after page of bedwetting pishery.
A fine description of what this thread has become. The utter nonsense of how great Hertz and Aberdeen signings have been and ours are terrible. It's almost like I've dropped into anything other than a Hibs site. Really baffles me how anybody can post that here. Or is it that there is a lot of people wanting Hecky to fail. So much constant griping it's unreal. It's pissing off a hell of a lot of folk. Is there any chance of admins funnelling negative stuff into one thread so I can get a break from it. It's brain numbing it really is.
blackpoolhibs
08-08-2019, 09:01 PM
A fine description of what this thread has become. The utter nonsense of how great Hertz and Aberdeen signings shave
Does anyone really bother about that?
badabing67
08-08-2019, 09:08 PM
I'm not against signing lower league players especially if he knows that market. There are good players down there and most of the guys we've signed don't look like bad players to me.
We just look too short in certain positions. A few injuries to certain players will give me the fear. If Vela gets injured for instance.
It was 11 out and 7 in so far I agree I think we are short we already have SDG LS TJ RP MB out already its starting to feel like last season
Hibbyradge
08-08-2019, 09:10 PM
When did the term ‘recruit’ replace the term ‘signings’?
When did "minutes" replace the term "games"?
MikeyS
08-08-2019, 09:26 PM
When did "minutes" replace the term "games"?
I blame those @rseholes on Soccer Saturday for these new phrases. 'In & around' is another one that people cant stop using.
pacorosssco
08-08-2019, 09:33 PM
I blame those @rseholes on Soccer Saturday for these new phrases. 'In & around' is another one that people cant stop using.
Yes need fill 24 hours a day slavering so make up repeat drivel
MikeyS
08-08-2019, 09:44 PM
Yes need fill 24 hours a day slavering so make up repeat drivel
The one that really winds me up is 'just about'. For example a keeper will make a finger tip save over the bar or round the post & the commentators & reporters now say " the keeper has just about kept that shot out"
No he f*#king hasn't!! If he'd just about made the save it would have bloody went in!!! 😂 raging thinking about it now!
JimBHibees
08-08-2019, 09:44 PM
Halkett is superb.
Jackson is better
Deansy
08-08-2019, 09:45 PM
We tried our best to get him, but weren't able to match his wages as well as others. We apparently tried all summer.
Cheers, I wsn't too sure so I've obviously misssed it or not been paying enough attention !
Speedway
08-08-2019, 09:55 PM
When did "minutes" replace the term "games"?
You win. That's worse. 'Getting minutes into the legs' :rolleyes:
The one that really winds me up is 'just about'. For example a keeper will make a finger tip save over the bar or round the post & the commentators & reporters now say " the keeper has just about kept that shot out"
No he f*#king hasn't!! If he'd just about made the save it would have bloody went in!!! 😂 raging thinking about it now!
it would have bloody 'gone' in. :wink::greengrin
JimBHibees
08-08-2019, 09:57 PM
Somewhere in Musselburgh, in the midst of the above message being composed, the fabric on a pair of cotton boxer shorts have been stretched to within an inch of their elasticated life.
:faf::faf:
My_Wife_Camille
08-08-2019, 10:12 PM
Slight exaggeration perhaps?
Just as a matter of interest have you ever described a Hibs player as superb?
Halkett is fine, but truly there isn't a superb player playing in Scotland at the moment and relatively few in England either.
The amount of exaggerated nonsense I read on here about Hearts and Aberdeen and their signings and how Hibs need to step up to the plate and lack ambition would give you the boak.
This board is rammed full of folk who cant say a good word about Hibs and criticise the club incessantly whilst creaming their pants over Hearts & Aberdeen.
If the background colours weren't green and white you could be excused somedays for wondering if you had stumbled onto their boards.
For the record, in the last 5 years, neither has had players of the quality of McGinn, or McGeouch to name but two.
Halkett will also have to push past the car crash that is Souttar from his own club alone before getting anywhere near a Scotland call up.
Try bigging up one of our players once in a while it is surprisingly uplifting
The meltdown on here when someone dares suggest that Hearts have made a good signing is always a joy to behold 🤣
The 90+2
08-08-2019, 10:13 PM
Jackson is better
Yep. Well better.
JimboHibs
08-08-2019, 10:13 PM
Brandon Barker currently having medical at The Rangers.
500miles
08-08-2019, 10:17 PM
Mulgrew to Wigan may have fallen through due to lateness of deal. We should step in if that's the case, experienced ball playing defender or holding mid.
calumhibee1
08-08-2019, 10:22 PM
Mulgrew to Wigan may have fallen through due to lateness of deal. We should step in if that's the case, experienced ball playing defender or holding mid.
He’d be a great holding midfielder imo.
The 90+2
08-08-2019, 10:31 PM
Mulgrew to Wigan may have fallen through due to lateness of deal. We should step in if that's the case, experienced ball playing defender or holding mid.
He would be a fantastic signing.
bigwheel
08-08-2019, 10:31 PM
He’d be a great holding midfielder imo.
Be too pricey for us ..you’re right though. And great cover at CH and LB too ...
BSEJVT
08-08-2019, 10:32 PM
That's a nice rant about whether I do or don't talk up hibs players.
How did you manage to come to the conclusion that I don't without my input?
You are going to need to explain how you arrived at that conclusion.
I didn’t I asked you if you had ever described a Hibs player as superb, no more
I then commented generally on posts on the board
Feeling guilty?
The 90+2
08-08-2019, 10:33 PM
Be too pricey for us ..you’re right though. And great cover at CH and LB too ...
If he is surplus at Rovers then perhaps it could be an option.
BSEJVT
08-08-2019, 10:37 PM
The meltdown on here when someone dares suggest that Hearts have made a good signing is always a joy to behold 🤣
Don’t get that sorry, he is fine I said so
He is by no stretch of the imagination “superb”
PatHead
08-08-2019, 10:37 PM
The meltdown on here when someone dares suggest that Hearts have made a good signing is always a joy to behold 🤣
The problem is that when they make an alright signing, nothing special, bedwetters get all upset.
I think Halkett is decent, nothing more, nothing better than we have but the likes of me get scoffed at for having an opinion.
In last years window I got slaughtered for saying Hearts had signed a barrel of *****. This year it is they have made better signings than us.
I wish Hibs supporters would support Hibs rather than worry about those gits on the other side of the city.
04Sauzee
08-08-2019, 10:39 PM
Be too pricey for us ..you’re right though. And great cover at CH and LB too ...
He would get in the team in front of Hanlon I'm my opinion. Porteous could learn alot playing alongside someone like that.
It's not a position we will be looking at however.
Brightside
08-08-2019, 10:46 PM
So everyone else’s signings are amazing and ours are pish. Got to love the way we talk our players up. If Halkett had signed for us we’d have a thread saying he’s a bang average livi player and heckys signings are rubbish. 😂😂
bigwheel
08-08-2019, 10:46 PM
He would get in the team in front of Hanlon I'm my opinion. Porteous could learn alot playing alongside someone like that.
It's not a position we will be looking at however.
Agree on all points. Possibly 6k per week ? More ?? Out of our league ...
Brightside
08-08-2019, 10:52 PM
He would get in the team in front of Hanlon I'm my opinion. Porteous could learn alot playing alongside someone like that.
It's not a position we will be looking at however.
He’s pish and slow
bigwheel
08-08-2019, 10:55 PM
He’s pish and slow
Think you forgot to add “and regular pick Scottish internationalist....”
My_Wife_Camille
08-08-2019, 11:04 PM
The problem is that when they make an alright signing, nothing special, bedwetters get all upset.
I think Halkett is decent, nothing more, nothing better than we have but the likes of me get scoffed at for having an opinion.
In last years window I got slaughtered for saying Hearts had signed a barrel of *****. This year it is they have made better signings than us.
I wish Hibs supporters would support Hibs rather than worry about those gits on the other side of the city.
I wish grown men would stop getting their knickers in a twist when someone says something naughty about their favourite football but this is the world we live in.
One thing for certain, a good number of the people getting upset at those praising the Halkett signing would be the first to tell you how good a signing he’d be if he signed for us.
Joe6-2
08-08-2019, 11:11 PM
I blame those @rseholes on Soccer Saturday for these new phrases. 'In & around' is another one that people cant stop using.
Opening up his body!!
Cool_Hand_Luke
08-08-2019, 11:17 PM
The one that really winds me up is 'just about'. For example a keeper will make a finger tip save over the bar or round the post & the commentators & reporters now say " the keeper has just about kept that shot out"
No he f*#king hasn't!! If he'd just about made the save it would have bloody went in!!! 😂 raging thinking about it now!
:agree: That's the one that gets me...
Turnbullsmate
08-08-2019, 11:58 PM
The one that really winds me up is 'just about'. For example a keeper will make a finger tip save over the bar or round the post & the commentators & reporters now say " the keeper has just about kept that shot out"
No he f*#king hasn't!! If he'd just about made the save it would have bloody went in!!! 😂 raging thinking about it now!
Absolutely with you on this Mikey "the keeper did just about enough" when in actuality he did enough. My other rage is when they say "it's still mathematically possible" when they mean "arithmetically".
FilipinoHibs
09-08-2019, 12:28 AM
Absolutely with you on this Mikey "the keeper did just about enough" when in actuality he did enough. My other rage is when they say "it's still mathematically possible" when they mean "arithmetically".
Arithmetic is a branch of mathematics. Gets my goat to when yanks say let's do the maths when talking about a simple arithmetic calculation but technically they are right.
FilipinoHibs
09-08-2019, 12:31 AM
Another won is the "business end of the season". If football is a business then it us something that is carried out all season not just towards the end of the season when things are decided.
Turnbullsmate
09-08-2019, 12:37 AM
Went over to the bounce for half an hour
No bickering there
All quiet and peaceful 😁
Cos they banned me Billy.... ****in closed shop that place is.
Turnbullsmate
09-08-2019, 01:07 AM
Arithmetic is a branch of mathematics. Gets my goat to when yanks say let's do the maths when talking about a simple arithmetic calculation but technically they are right.
I get that Fil . i just equate Arithmetic with numbers i.e. addition,subtraction, multiplication and division whereas Pure (?) Mathematics is about formulae which means a headache for me. Keep it simple i say :wink:
poolman
09-08-2019, 02:04 AM
I never once said they had a good team or a bad team, I very rarely see them play as I'm usually watching hibs so wouldnt know.
Exactly, do these people, Horde or whatever his name go and watch Livi every week, very odd
poolman
09-08-2019, 02:07 AM
I seen enough when Hibs were playing other days, against Hibs and also my mate is livi home and away every week. Fans there love him.
And I've got Yam mates who think every player of them are great
Juice-Terry
09-08-2019, 02:21 AM
halkett is superb.
ltyf!
Borderhibbie76
09-08-2019, 04:26 AM
A fine description of what this thread has become. The utter nonsense of how great Hertz and Aberdeen signings have been and ours are terrible. It's almost like I've dropped into anything other than a Hibs site. Really baffles me how anybody can post that here. Or is it that there is a lot of people wanting Hecky to fail. So much constant griping it's unreal. It's pissing off a hell of a lot of folk. Is there any chance of admins funnelling negative stuff into one thread so I can get a break from it. It's brain numbing it really is.Couldn't agree more ...this thread has become an utter shambles with the usual suspects bigging up Hertz and Aberdeen into some kind of super powers and at the same time taking pot shots at their own club. You come on for transfer updates and lose the will honestly....
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FilipinoHibs
09-08-2019, 05:00 AM
Couldn't agree more ...this thread has become an utter shambles with the usual suspects bigging up Hertz and Aberdeen into some kind of super powers and at the same time taking pot shots at their own club. You come on for transfer updates and lose the will honestly....
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Could they be Jambo trolls😀
Since452
09-08-2019, 06:40 AM
So everyone else’s signings are amazing and ours are pish. Got to love the way we talk our players up. If Halkett had signed for us we’d have a thread saying he’s a bang average livi player and heckys signings are rubbish. 😂😂
Imagine Hearts had signed Doidge, Jones, Newell and Jackson and won the first game of the season. All the talk on here would be why other teams find gems from down south and we don't. Mental.
mjhibby
09-08-2019, 06:40 AM
Could they be Jambo trolls��
I'm sure there is one or two but the sheer volume of negativity means there are a heck of a lot of hibbies. Keekback is split down the middle because of Harry potter. I don't get why so many are negative. Is it a trend that has just crept up on me and I've not noticed. As was said you'd hope to get gossip and some insight on this thread but instead you have to only dip in and out as you'd think it was all doom and gloom.
Nicho87
09-08-2019, 06:45 AM
The negativity on the board quite rightly comes from the plain fact that everyone deep down the quality of the squad is currently not as good as what it was before.
most worryingly hecky doesn’t seem to get this.
Hibbyradge
09-08-2019, 06:50 AM
I wish grown men would stop getting their knickers in a twist when someone says something naughty about their favourite football but this is the world we live in.
One thing for certain, a good number of the people getting upset at those praising the Halkett signing would be the first to tell you how good a signing he’d be if he signed for us.
That's just the nature of football fans.
Some Duncans are still saying that McGinn is pish.
It is entirely futile to expect a more objective view.
Apart from reasonable posters like myself, of course. As far as I'm concerned, all hertz players are woeful, mediocre at best and most likely criminals.
All Hibs players are excellent except for our better players who are truly magnificent.
Balanced and fair. :agree:
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 06:55 AM
The negativity on the board quite rightly comes from the plain fact that everyone deep down the quality of the squad is currently not as good as what it was before.
most worryingly hecky doesn’t seem to get this.
I think we will have a better idea after Sunday
Hecky has a plan a system he just needs his team to gel
My worry is he has underestimated the standard of the SPFL Premiership
We are about to find out
GGTTH
Allant1981
09-08-2019, 07:03 AM
The negativity on the board quite rightly comes from the plain fact that everyone deep down the quality of the squad is currently not as good as what it was before.
most worryingly hecky doesn’t seem to get this.
What doesnt he get? That he doesnt have a john mcginn in the squad. I'm pretty sure he knows his squad doesnt have a player like that but he cant go pay £15m plus for a replacement can he, most of the players that have left in the last season or so are all now way above what we can afford so we need to start again. That's life but if folk cant accept that then they need a wee bit of a reality check
Allant1981
09-08-2019, 07:06 AM
I think we will have a better idea after Sunday
Hecky has a plan a system he just needs his team to gel
My worry is he has underestimated the standard of the SPFL Premiership
We are about to find out
GGTTH
Sorry but this stuff about him underestimating our league is guff, he didnt just arrive 2 minutes ago, he has been here for a few months now and knows what he is playing. He has signed players that have all been playing well and competing in the leagues they were in. Our recruitment team have also been in place for years and will also know what type of player will suit the game up here. Let's just give the new guys a chance
oldbutdim
09-08-2019, 07:09 AM
I seen enough when Hibs were playing other days, against Hibs and also my mate is livi home and away every week. Fans there love him.
Classic trolling.
Brilliant stuff.
Since452
09-08-2019, 07:25 AM
I think we will have a better idea after Sunday
Hecky has a plan a system he just needs his team to gel
My worry is he has underestimated the standard of the SPFL Premiership
We are about to find out
GGTTH
Heckingbottom is clearly a smart guy. I don't think he's underestimated anything. He did his homework even before he got the job and like another poster has said he's been here months now. He's meticulous in his preparation and the players love playing for him. I understand why people are a bit nervy but the club is geared up for football success like never before. Unfortunately we're maybe slightly behind where we should have been due to our last manager losing the plot but we still salvaged 5th out of a car crash season. The club has never been in a better place financially or with the staff and infrastructure we have. I've got every faith in our MD, recruitment team, coaches and head coach and think we'll do we'll this season. There will be a certain amount of transition will the new guys but if we keep on winning during that period I'll be happy. 4 competitive game wins in a row and 6 wins out of 9 including friendlies one being an EPL team isn't too shabby with the raft of new players we have. Yes we'll probably be beaten at Ibrox but that isn't surprising all things considered. Remember we're still missing our captain and our most experienced player. Sorry for the rant but a bit of perspective is needed i think.
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 07:26 AM
Sorry but this stuff about him underestimating our league is guff, he didnt just arrive 2 minutes ago, he has been here for a few months now and knows what he is playing. He has signed players that have all been playing well and competing in the leagues they were in. Our recruitment team have also been in place for years and will also know what type of player will suit the game up here. Let's just give the new guys a chance
Please reread my post
I am happy to give Hecky and his signings a “chance” they just need time to gel
We will find out what progress they have made starting from Sunday
McGinn and McGeoch are not the be all and end all
As you quite rightly say we have to start again
I am sure there are other unearthed diamonds ilying undiscovered in Scotland
We have until the 2/9/2019 to find them
Who knows they may already be at the club?
My only reservation about Heckingbottom is that he shows the top six clubs too much respect especially the ugly sisters just my honest opinion
St Mirren cobbled together a team on the Monday before the game that gave us a hard game
Let us hope for a good result on Sunday and get behind the team
GGTTH
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 07:29 AM
Heckingbottom is clearly a smart guy. I don't think he's underestimated anything. He did his homework even before he got the job and like another poster has said he's been here months now. He's meticulous in his preparation and the players love playing for him. I understand why people are a bit nervy but the club is geared up for football success like never before. Unfortunately we're maybe slightly behind where we should have been due to our last manager losing the plot but we still salvaged 5th out of a car crash season. The club has never been in a better place financially or with the staff and infrastructure we have. I've got every faith in our MD, recruitment team, coaches and head coach and think we'll do we'll this season. There will be a certain amount of transition will the new guys but if we keep on winning during that period I'll be happy. 4 competitive game wins in a row and 6 wins out of 9 including friendlies one being an EPL team isn't too shabby with the raft of new players we have. Yes we'll probably be beaten at Ibrox but that isn't surprising all things considered. Remember we're still missing our captain and our most experienced player. Sorry for the rant but a bit of perspective is needed i think.
:aok:
Difficult to disagree with with any of that
We move onto Sunday
The_Horde
09-08-2019, 07:40 AM
Classic trolling.
Brilliant stuff.
If you like, you can have a look through my old posts. You'll find me mentioning Halkett as a replacement for Efe as far back as December.
Funny how quick people are to shout troll these days when someone's opinion differs from the consensus.
we are hibs
09-08-2019, 07:46 AM
Jackson has worried me on the ball the last 2 games. I thought against elgin it was because he was on the left of the defence but i thought he gave the ball away quite a bit against st.mirren playing on the right. Didnt look comfortable.
JimBHibees
09-08-2019, 07:47 AM
Heckingbottom is clearly a smart guy. I don't think he's underestimated anything. He did his homework even before he got the job and like another poster has said he's been here months now. He's meticulous in his preparation and the players love playing for him. I understand why people are a bit nervy but the club is geared up for football success like never before. Unfortunately we're maybe slightly behind where we should have been due to our last manager losing the plot but we still salvaged 5th out of a car crash season. The club has never been in a better place financially or with the staff and infrastructure we have. I've got every faith in our MD, recruitment team, coaches and head coach and think we'll do we'll this season. There will be a certain amount of transition will the new guys but if we keep on winning during that period I'll be happy. 4 competitive game wins in a row and 6 wins out of 9 including friendlies one being an EPL team isn't too shabby with the raft of new players we have. Yes we'll probably be beaten at Ibrox but that isn't surprising all things considered. Remember we're still missing our captain and our most experienced player. Sorry for the rant but a bit of perspective is needed i think.
Agree with all this. These things take time plus we also need some luck like less injuries however he showed when he came in last season he can do a job. Think we will bring in 2 or 3 to strengthen. Bit of patience, support and context required.
Juice-Terry
09-08-2019, 07:53 AM
Jackson has worried me on the ball the last 2 games. I thought against elgin it was because he was on the left of the defence but i thought he gave the ball away quite a bit against st.mirren playing on the right. Didnt look comfortable.
I think he looks quite solid defensively, but his passing has been quite poor. Hopefully a boot up the arse from PH will sort that out.
Allant1981
09-08-2019, 08:08 AM
Please reread my post
I am happy to give Hecky and his signings a “chance” they just need time to gel
We will find out what progress they have made starting from Sunday
McGinn and McGeoch are not the be all and end all
As you quite rightly say we have to start again
I am sure there are other unearthed diamonds ilying undiscovered in Scotland
We have until the 2/9/2019 to find them
Who knows they may already be at the club?
My only reservation about Heckingbottom is that he shows the top six clubs too much respect especially the ugly sisters just my honest opinion
St Mirren cobbled together a team on the Monday before the game that gave us a hard game
Let us hope for a good result on Sunday and get behind the team
GGTTH
You said you worry he has underestimated the league, theres not really much that I can go read!! If he had arrived last week and signed a bunch of players in that time without seeing what teams are like up here then I'd maybe agree but he hasnt just arrived and will have seen every single team play. He isnt a daft guy and will know what type of player suits the scottish game, yes the football hasnt been gung ho and all out attack yet but we have had the results so far, if we go on a run of defeats then let's start worrying
oldbutdim
09-08-2019, 08:09 AM
If you like, you can have a look through my old posts. You'll find me mentioning Halkett as a replacement for Efe as far back as December.
Funny how quick people are to shout troll these days when someone's opinion differs from the consensus.
It was pretending you’d watched him in most of his games then saying it was actually your mate (who for some unexplained reason is loved at Livi) who’s opinion you were parroting.
You love to stir it up and I take my hat off to you sir. You and your chum certainly excite the natives.
duffers
09-08-2019, 08:12 AM
From what I can see, ‘The_Horde’ has made one post saying that Halkett is a superb signing. I maybe wouldn’t go as far as saying superb, but I do agree it’s a good bit of business for them. Unless I’ve missed something, he may think hibs have made a number of superb signings. The abuse he’s getting is a bit unnecessary as he’s posted his opinion without green tinted glasses on. If hearts signed Messi, some posters on here would be saying that he was past it and his legs were gone. Although I can’t see them pushing that deal through anytime soon...
Springbank
09-08-2019, 08:15 AM
From what I can see, ‘The_Horde’ has made one post saying that Halkett is a superb signing. I maybe wouldn’t go as far as saying superb, but I do agree it’s a good bit of business for them. Unless I’ve missed something, he may think hibs have made a number of superb signings. The abuse he’s getting is a bit unnecessary as he’s posted his opinion without green tinted glasses on. If hearts signed Messi, some posters on here would be saying that he was past it and his legs were gone. Although I can’t see them pushing that deal through anytime soon...
If Messi moved to Edinburgh it wouldn't be to Potters Tigers...
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 08:16 AM
I think he looks quite solid defensively, but his passing has been quite poor. Hopefully a boot up the arse from PH will sort that out.
Jackson is the signing that has impressed me most
Calm and assured on the ball
On Saturday he had to come over and cover for James who was constantly caught out of position and stood ball watching
Jackson became uncharacteristically nervous and this adversely affected his distribution
I do not know if the big crowd and occasion got to him
Lost very little in the air
Special mention for Paul Hanlon who looked back to his best
Tremendous saving tackle at the end of the first half and powerful surging run that created space and led to our goal
Since452
09-08-2019, 08:23 AM
Jackson is the signing that has impressed me most
Calm and assured on the ball
On Saturday he had to come over and cover for James who was constantly caught out of position and stood ball watching
Jackson became uncharacteristically nervous and this adversely affected his distribution
I do not know if the big crowd and occasion got to him
Lost very little in the air
Special mention for Paul Hanlon who looked back to his best
Tremendous saving tackle at the end of the first half and powerful surging run that created space and led to our goal
I agree. Think Jackson looks very good. My first pick in defence at CB at the minute
Since452
09-08-2019, 08:31 AM
Defence will be a brilliant nightmare for Heckingbottom once everyone fit. Our captain and most experienced player both to come back. Jackson looks excellent, Porteous is going to be a star, everyone can see it and Whittaker arguably our best performer at the minute. Add in Paul and Daz. Incredible really.
huggie1875
09-08-2019, 08:31 AM
what does LTYF mean?
jeffers
09-08-2019, 08:32 AM
I agree. Think Jackson looks very good. My first pick in defence at CB at the minute
Agree with you and Billy, he's the one player out of the new signings who has impressed me (I'm hoping Saturday was just Vela's lack of a pre season catching up on him.) He reminds me a bit of Daz, a solid no nonsense centre back whose distribution maybe isn't their strongest point. I've seen very little in Doidge, James or Newall to get excited about.
Greenworld
09-08-2019, 08:36 AM
Agree with you and Billy, he's the one player out of the new signings who has impressed me (I'm hoping Saturday was just Vela's lack of a pre season catching up on him.) He reminds me a bit of Daz, a solid no nonsense centre back whose distribution maybe isn't their strongest point. I've seen very little in Doidge, James or Newall to get excited about.Disagree think James looks a very good player.
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The_Horde
09-08-2019, 08:39 AM
It was pretending you’d watched him in most of his games then saying it was actually your mate (who for some unexplained reason is loved at Livi) who’s opinion you were parroting.
You love to stir it up and I take my hat off to you sir. You and your chum certainly excite the natives.
OBD I've watched far more livi games than I care to admit. It's something I've done for a few years now and I've watched Craig against opponents from league 2 up to the old firm, hearts and obviously us. He's an excellent young defender and one of the best in the league.
If 'the natives' are restless about my suggestion that a hearts player is good then perhaps they need to grow up.
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 08:43 AM
You said you worry he has underestimated the league, theres not really much that I can go read!! If he had arrived last week and signed a bunch of players in that time without seeing what teams are like up here then I'd maybe agree but he hasnt just arrived and will have seen every single team play. He isnt a daft guy and will know what type of player suits the scottish game, yes the football hasnt been gung ho and all out attack yet but we have had the results so far, if we go on a run of defeats then let's start worrying
OK!
Hard hat on here
I have seen most games
By underestimate I of course mean the standard of player he has signed to get us to our rightful place at the top of the SPFL
I have already said I am happy to give them a chance and time to gel and fall into Hecky masterplan high press that we are all still waiting to see
So far what I have seen
Jackson: cool calm assured in possession very good in the air solid centre back possible replacement for Hanlon or MacGregor saying that looked shaky versus St Mirren passing was poor though had to cover for James
James: good technically though looks leisurely disinterested gets caught out of position and lacks the pace to recover needs to close his man down quicker
Newell: technically looks good though lacks pace and ability to beat a man and get away from him
Improves everytime I see him puts over a good cross adopts good positions at far post
Doidge: big powerful puts himself about creates space adopts brilliant positions good in the air just needs a break and luck
Vela: understandably does not look match fit but potentially could be the best of the lot
Maxwell: looks a competent understudy very good vocally and distribution wise
Individually they look competent and were probably among the best in their respective leagues let us hope that collectively they gel into a formidable unit to take us back to our rightful place
A big test on Sunday
Sean1875
09-08-2019, 08:44 AM
what does LTYF mean?
Launch that yam fud/fanny/freak
jeffers
09-08-2019, 08:45 AM
Disagree think James looks a very good player.
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All about opinions, to me he looks sluggish for want of a better word and not particularly switched on BUT it's early days it's only initial impressions on all the new signings. I'm not going to write anyone off, you only need to look at Cosgrove to see how some players take time to settle at a new club.
Hibdan12
09-08-2019, 08:46 AM
what does LTYF mean?
Launch the yam ****** (stupid childesh hibs. Net insult)
My_Wife_Camille
09-08-2019, 08:47 AM
Launch that yam fud/fanny/freak
That’s what the letters stand for but it actually means ‘ban this person for having a different opinion to me’
Jim44
09-08-2019, 08:56 AM
Launch the yam ****** (stupid childesh hibs. Net insult)
LTYF. :greengrin
My_Wife_Camille
09-08-2019, 08:56 AM
So everyone else’s signings are amazing and ours are pish. Got to love the way we talk our players up. If Halkett had signed for us we’d have a thread saying he’s a bang average livi player and heckys signings are rubbish. 😂😂
We’d have the same thread tbh.
People like The Horde who rate him would say it’s a superb signing while people like PatHead and BSEJVT would, as you say, be first in line to say he’s fine but nothing special.
Allant1981
09-08-2019, 08:58 AM
OK!
Hard hat on here
I have seen most games
By underestimate I of course mean the standard of player he has signed to get us to our rightful place at the top of the SPFL
I have already said I am happy to give them a chance and time to gel and fall into Hecky masterplan high press that we are all still waiting to see
So far what I have seen
Jackson: cool calm assured in possession very good in the air solid centre back possible replacement for Hanlon or MacGregor saying that looked shaky versus St Mirren passing was poor though had to cover for James
James: good technically though looks leisurely disinterested gets caught out of position and lacks the pace to recover needs to close his man down quicker
Newell: technically looks good though lacks pace and ability to beat a man and get away from him
Improves everytime I see him puts over a good cross adopts good positions at far post
Doidge: big powerful puts himself about creates space adopts brilliant positions good in the air just needs a break and luck
Vela: understandably does not look match fit but potentially could be the best of the lot
Maxwell: looks a competent understudy very good vocally and distribution wise
Individually they look competent and were probably among the best in their respective leagues let us hope that collectively they gel into a formidable unit to take us back to our rightful place
A big test on Sunday
Not looking for an argument but that post doesnt quite fit with what you are saying in other posts, you have gave an opinion about each new signing, which on the whole is pretty positive yet you think he may have underestimated what type of player is required to play in the league, if you think these players are all pretty good then surely you think they will do well and he hasnt underestimated what type of players he needs?
Dalianwanda
09-08-2019, 09:00 AM
:top marks
Sorry but this stuff about him underestimating our league is guff, he didnt just arrive 2 minutes ago, he has been here for a few months now and knows what he is playing. He has signed players that have all been playing well and competing in the leagues they were in. Our recruitment team have also been in place for years and will also know what type of player will suit the game up here. Let's just give the new guys a chance
oldbutdim
09-08-2019, 09:01 AM
OBD I've watched far more livi games than I care to admit. It's something I've done for a few years now and I've watched Craig against opponents from league 2 up to the old firm, hearts and obviously us. He's an excellent young defender and one of the best in the league.
If 'the natives' are restless about my suggestion that a hearts player is good then perhaps they need to grow up.
Ah, so you DO go to Livi games then.
It's easy to get confused. First you go to loads, then you don't, now you go to more than you said you did........ :confused:
It's not any suggestion that a Hearts player is good that stirs up the place though, but you know that.
Keep up the good work - never a dull moment!
:aok:
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 09:04 AM
Not looking for an argument but that post doesnt quite fit with what you are saying in other posts, you have gave an opinion about each new signing, which on the whole is pretty positive yet you think he may have underestimated what type of player is required to play in the league, if you think these players are all pretty good then surely you think they will do well and he hasnt underestimated what type of players he needs?
Competent I said competent
There is class there is first class and then there is HIBS class! :greengrin
We find out on Sunday
The_Horde
09-08-2019, 09:17 AM
Ah, so you DO go to Livi games then.
It's easy to get confused. First you go to loads, then you don't, now you go to more than you said you did........ :confused:
It's not any suggestion that a Hearts player is good that stirs up the place though, but you know that.
Keep up the good work - never a dull moment!
:aok:
Yes, I have BEEN to livi games. I never once said anything to the contrary. So perhaps you should look back at all of my posts before putting words in people's mouths.
Very simple deflection tactics from yourself though, scared to let yourself go and be trolled so you just accuse everyone of trolling. Like a playground bully lashing out at all and sundry.
People have their lucky green boxers in a twist because I said Halkett is superb. If it wasn't the suggestion that hearts had made a good signing, then what was it?
Wee Effen Bee
09-08-2019, 09:21 AM
Competent I said competent
There is class there is first class and then there is HIBS class! :greengrin
We find out on Sunday
I’m asking why so many posters are suggesting that Rangers away will prove whether he have the right players or not? 2/3 now have said something about Hecky/new players being found out on Sunday! Surely Sunday’s game won’t be the barometer for the success or failure of the summer’s recruitment process. It will be over the course of a few games - not one of the most difficult away games in the league!
Alex Trager
09-08-2019, 09:22 AM
This place is going to be a laugh on Sunday
Blaster
09-08-2019, 09:24 AM
I’m asking why so many posters are suggesting that Rangers away will prove whether he have the right players or not? 2/3 now have said something about Hecky/new players being found out on Sunday! Surely Sunday’s game won’t be the barometer for the success or failure of the summer’s recruitment process. It will be over the course of a few games - not one of the most difficult away games in the league!
Well said
My_Wife_Camille
09-08-2019, 09:24 AM
This place is going to be a laugh on Sunday
This place is always a laugh
Alex Trager
09-08-2019, 09:25 AM
This place is always a laugh
By a laugh I mean absolutely dreadful
Gordy M
09-08-2019, 09:27 AM
Yes, I have BEEN to livi games. I never once said anything to the contrary. So perhaps you should look back at all of my posts before putting words in people's mouths.
Very simple deflection tactics from yourself though, scared to let yourself go and be trolled so you just accuse everyone of trolling. Like a playground bully lashing out at all and sundry.
People have their lucky green boxers in a twist because I said Halkett is superb. If it wasn't the suggestion that hearts had made a good signing, then what was it?
I suggest you watch the game against sevco where livi lost 0-3(im not posting a rangers win on here) and watch the 3rd goal, im pretty sure its Halkett who miscontrols an easy ball straight to the forward and then ends up on his backside and sevco score from it. I can tell yiu right now if that was any of our centre halfs, they would have been given absolute pelters. I remember it at the time and thinking Halkett wasnt that great. He was also ball watching at the 2nd goal imo.
Not saying he isnt good........just not superb.
Billy Whizz
09-08-2019, 09:28 AM
By a laugh I mean absolutely dreadful
Why, no belief
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 09:28 AM
I’m asking why so many posters are suggesting that Rangers away will prove whether he have the right players or not? 2/3 now have said something about Hecky/new players being found out on Sunday! Surely Sunday’s game won’t be the barometer for the success or failure of the summer’s recruitment process. It will be over the course of a few games - not one of the most difficult away games in the league!
:aok:
Agree!
Will let us know where we are at this early stage
We also have winnable games coming up against Morton and St Johnstone
Defeat at Ibrox would not be the end of the world as you quite rightly say there is still a whole season to go
Still hoping for new recruits before 2/9/19 :greengrin
Alex Trager
09-08-2019, 09:29 AM
Why, no belief
Na I don’t expect much from the game on Sunday. It’s a big test for us for sure so it will be ‘good’ to see how far we’ve come along.
Here’s hoping, I can’t see it happening though.
The_Horde
09-08-2019, 09:34 AM
I suggest you watch the game against sevco where livi lost 0-3(im not posting a rangers win on here) and watch the 3rd goal, im pretty sure its Halkett who miscontrols an easy ball straight to the forward and then ends up on his backside and sevco score from it. I can tell yiu right now if that was any of our centre halfs, they would have been given absolute pelters. I remember it at the time and thinking Halkett wasnt that great. He was also ball watching at the 2nd goal imo.
Not saying he isnt good........just not superb.
I've seen Virgil Van Dijk do the same. Point?
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 09:37 AM
Hearts complete signing of Loic Damour from Cardiff on four year contract :confused:
Juice-Terry
09-08-2019, 09:40 AM
Jackson is the signing that has impressed me most
Calm and assured on the ball
On Saturday he had to come over and cover for James who was constantly caught out of position and stood ball watching
Jackson became uncharacteristically nervous and this adversely affected his distribution
I do not know if the big crowd and occasion got to him
Lost very little in the air
Special mention for Paul Hanlon who looked back to his best
Tremendous saving tackle at the end of the first half and powerful surging run that created space and led to our goal
Agree with all that (with the minor correction that Scotty is clearly the most impressive player among the new signings :greengrin).
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 09:41 AM
Agree with all that (with the minor correction that Scotty is clearly the most impressive player among the new signings :greengrin).
:aok:
Unseen work
09-08-2019, 09:44 AM
Hearts complete signing of Loic Damour from Cardiff on four year contract :confused:
Very good signing for them.
SMAXXA
09-08-2019, 09:46 AM
Very good signing for them.
You seen a lot of him aye?
Alex Trager
09-08-2019, 09:46 AM
Very good signing for them.
Where does the boy play?
Never heard of him to be honest.
I presume that means they won’t get Glen whelehan or whatever his name is
MagicSwirlingShip
09-08-2019, 09:47 AM
Very good signing for them.
Seems to have good pedigree. Can’t wait for the first Derby now and for him to flop 😄
Heisenberg
09-08-2019, 09:50 AM
Very good signing for them.
Never seen him play, much like most of our own signings to be honest. One short spell at Cardiff in the Championship is where he peaked by the looks of it.
The_Horde
09-08-2019, 09:50 AM
Very good signing for them.
Based on what? If he's any good he'll be injury prone anyway. Better off with Skivka. GGTTH
My_Wife_Camille
09-08-2019, 09:51 AM
Very good signing for them.
You seen a lot of him aye?
🤣🤣🤣
bingo70
09-08-2019, 09:52 AM
Seems to have good pedigree. Can’t wait for the first Derby now and for him to flop 😄
Just looked him up on Wikipedia I’d say it was a pretty ***** pedigree.
Banded around a few clubs before joining Cardiff, only played 29 times for them, presumably before they turned good then lost his place?
Wikipedia isn’t the best source for judging a player so he might be brilliant, I don’t think he’s got the best of CV’s though.
Unseen work
09-08-2019, 09:52 AM
Where does the boy play?
Never heard of him to be honest.
I presume that means they won’t get Glen whelehan or whatever his name is
Plays centre mid, high energy and is good at winning possession back and comfortable on the ball.
Played a lot for Cardiff the season they got promoted. I think they were meant to be after both with the stumbling block for Wheelan being his family moving up?
Unseen work
09-08-2019, 09:53 AM
You seen a lot of him aye?
Aye
Unseen work
09-08-2019, 09:54 AM
Based on what? If he's any good he'll be injury prone anyway. Better off with Skivka. GGTTH
Based on seeing him play.
SMAXXA
09-08-2019, 09:54 AM
1 game in 3 points in the bag, umpteen new signings bedding in yet some negativity from some is laughable imo. Everyone else’s signings are good signings ours are *****, Hecky is a few results away from being under pressure honestly beggars belief. This used to be a fairly enjoyable forum but the last while it’s become so depressing and tedious at times. Get behind the team/club and try and enjoy it, we’ve experienced enough ***** in recent years we won’t be brilliant but won’t be ***** either just roll with it, aye you can be critical but let’s give the guys a chance first.
FWIW I think we have recruited well as do I think hearts and Aberdeen have. We will still add one or 2 if image and have another month to see what quality we can get in that will Improve us.
SMAXXA
09-08-2019, 09:55 AM
Based on seeing him play.
Kind of player is he and what’s so good about him?
bingo70
09-08-2019, 09:56 AM
Plays centre mid, high energy and is good at winning possession back and comfortable on the ball.
Played a lot for Cardiff the season they got promoted. I think they were meant to be after both with the stumbling block for Wheelan being his family moving up?
I’m always a bit sceptical why if he’s as good as you say other English championship sides never snapped him up.
I know you could say the same about all our signings, I just struggle to worry about signings like this, they rarely turn out as good as people fear.
G B Young
09-08-2019, 09:57 AM
How many of us knew anything about Marvin Bartley, Liam Fontaine, Dominique Malonga or even David Gray to name but a few of Alan Stubbs' signings who went on to become very successful at Hibs?
The sense of unease we may be feeling around Hecky's signings is, at this stage, surely based on little more than the fact we haven't really heard of them before. Stubbs coupled his lesser known signings with a smattering of players who already had a good pedigree in Scotland like Stokes, McGeouch, Allan, Fyvie etc whereas Hecky's signings don't bring that 'buzz' with them. Nevertheless, I am never anything but impressed when I hear him talk about his vision for the club and at present I have placed my full trust in him to shape a squad which can be consistently competitive.
The only player Hearts have signed who I would say is, when fit, a game changer, is Naismith and I remain bemused as to why he would settle for ending his career there. I can only assume they have pushed the boat out way beyond their usual player budget to meet his demands.
SMAXXA
09-08-2019, 09:57 AM
Plays centre mid, high energy and is good at winning possession back and comfortable on the ball.
Played a lot for Cardiff the season they got promoted. I think they were meant to be after both with the stumbling block for Wheelan being his family moving up?
Another OJO 😉
calumhibee1
09-08-2019, 09:58 AM
Plays centre mid, high energy and is good at winning possession back and comfortable on the ball.
Played a lot for Cardiff the season they got promoted. I think they were meant to be after both with the stumbling block for Wheelan being his family moving up?
He played just over half their league games the season they got promoted. If he only played half he must have either spent a lot of time injured or a lot of they appearances were most likely off the bench.
Joe Newell by comparison has played a hell of a lot more games at that level than this guy, is a couple years younger and people don’t rate him so far.
I know nothing about the guy, he might be class, but his pedigree is only really decent and that’s about it.
My_Wife_Camille
09-08-2019, 09:58 AM
At the end of the day, all our signings are ****ing dynamite and all Hearts and Aberdeen’s signings are pish and if you disagree you are a yam troll #GGTTH #HIBSfamily #HeckysAtTheWheel
MagicSwirlingShip
09-08-2019, 09:59 AM
Just looked him up on Wikipedia I’d say it was a pretty ***** pedigree.
Banded around a few clubs before joining Cardiff, only played 29 times for them, presumably before they turned good then lost his place?
Wikipedia isn’t the best source for judging a player so he might be brilliant, I don’t think he’s got the best of CV’s though.
Was referring to his time in the French youth team but I get your point.
The boy Haring didn’t have that a great CV either and has turned out to be a good player for them.
We will find out soon enough. More than backing our squad of midfielders to win the battle
OBD I've watched far more livi games than I care to admit. It's something I've done for a few years now and I've watched Craig against opponents from league 2 up to the old firm, hearts and obviously us. He's an excellent young defender and one of the best in the league.
If 'the natives' are restless about my suggestion that a hearts player is good then perhaps they need to grow up.
If you had just said this in the 1st place there would have been no problems. You also didn't say he was good, instead you just posted " Halkett is superb". When people asked you what you based this opinion on you tied yourself in knots & even in this post you contradict what you said previously. I posted previously I think Halkett is decent but as I live in London I've never seen him live. I also thought Souttar, Naismith & potentially Washington are excellent signings for them but I certainly wouldn't say they were superb. Conversely I think Berra is a liability, as he showed in the cup final. With the obvious exception of SJM I also wouldn't say any Hibs players in the last 5 years or so were superb although plenty have provided superb/sublime moments. I do my best to view every player objectively. My objection is to posters on here who denigrate our players & praise opposition players at every opportunity. You're certainly not the worst but IMO it was an ill thought out & troll like comment re Halkett.
Allant1981
09-08-2019, 10:03 AM
He played just over half their league games the season they got promoted. If he only played half he must have either spent a lot of time injured or a lot of they appearances were most likely off the bench.
Joe Newell by comparison has played a hell of a lot more games at that level than this guy, is a couple years younger and people don’t rate him so far.
I know nothing about the guy, he might be class, but his pedigree is only really decent and that’s about it.
Even in those 18 games he only played 10 full games, the guy might just have been behind better players and will be a cracking signing for them but if we were signing a player like that we wouldnt be happy
MagicSwirlingShip
09-08-2019, 10:07 AM
Even in those 18 games he only played 10 full games, the guy might just have been behind better players and will be a cracking signing for them but if we were signing a player like that we wouldnt be happy
4 year deal could be the final nail in Leveins coffin if he’s another complete dud. In a wierd, round a bout, twisted way, I kind of want him to be a nobad player. #LeveinMustStay
Where does the boy play?
Never heard of him to be honest.
I presume that means they won’t get Glen whelehan or whatever his name is
He could be excellent but not only have I never heard of him I've never heard of most of his previous clubs. Hawrts could only ever afford him or Whelan, personally I wish they had got Whelan but there was an interesting quote that said Yams " could not afford a substantial fee". I also heard a suggestion that some potential add ons for the Rolf transfer may have been set off against this. Our rivals are not as flush as some would indicate.
The_Horde
09-08-2019, 10:11 AM
If you had just said this in the 1st place there would have been no problems. You also didn't say he was good, instead you just posted " Halkett is superb". When people asked you what you based this opinion on you tied yourself in knots & even in this post you contradict what you said previously. I posted previously I think Halkett is decent but as I live in London I've never seen him live. I also thought Souttar, Naismith & potentially Washington are excellent signings for them but I certainly wouldn't say they were superb. Conversely I think Berra is a liability, as he showed in the cup final. With the obvious exception of SJM I also wouldn't say any Hibs players in the last 5 years or so were superb although plenty have provided superb/sublime moments. I do my best to view every player objectively. My objection is to posters on here who denigrate our players & praise opposition players at every opportunity. You're certainly not the worst but IMO it was an ill thought out & troll like comment re Halkett.
What makes it 'troll like' - the fact that you don't like it?
Unseen work
09-08-2019, 10:16 AM
I’m always a bit sceptical why if he’s as good as you say other English championship sides never snapped him up.
I know you could say the same about all our signings, I just struggle to worry about signings like this, they rarely turn out as good as people fear.
Im not saying he is going to be the best player in the league, just that he will be a good signing for hearts as imo his style will suit the Scottish game.
Get where you’re coming from about other teams wanting him, however you could say the same about Ambrose, Stokes, Scotty Allan etc.
My_Wife_Camille
09-08-2019, 10:18 AM
If you had just said this in the 1st place there would have been no problems. You also didn't say he was good, instead you just posted " Halkett is superb". When people asked you what you based this opinion on you tied yourself in knots & even in this post you contradict what you said previously. I posted previously I think Halkett is decent but as I live in London I've never seen him live. I also thought Souttar, Naismith & potentially Washington are excellent signings for them but I certainly wouldn't say they were superb. Conversely I think Berra is a liability, as he showed in the cup final. With the obvious exception of SJM I also wouldn't say any Hibs players in the last 5 years or so were superb although plenty have provided superb/sublime moments. I do my best to view every player objectively. My objection is to posters on here who denigrate our players & praise opposition players at every opportunity. You're certainly not the worst but IMO it was an ill thought out & troll like comment re Halkett.
How has he tied himself in knots?
He’s consistently praised Hearts signing of Halkett and backed his opinion up by saying he’s seen him play for Livi on numerous occasions over the years.
I’d be interested to see what evidence you have of TH denigrating our players and praising opposition at every opportunity. From what I’ve seen, Halkett is the only Hearts signing he’s praised.
Let’s face it, all that has happened here is that you’ve let a pre-conceived notion of a poster you’ve decided you don’t like influence you’re reaction. If the best you’ve got against him is the fact he used different words in different posts to mean ‘good’ then that says everything you need to know about how ridiculous your argument is.
Whether you like it or not, having a different opinion is not trolling.
SaulGoodman
09-08-2019, 10:20 AM
Nae signings then?
FilipinoHibs
09-08-2019, 10:21 AM
I get that Fil . i just equate Arithmetic with numbers i.e. addition,subtraction, multiplication and division whereas Pure (?) Mathematics is about formulae which means a headache for me. Keep it simple i say :wink:
Or calculus. I always say to Yanks let's do the sums. That annoys them.
The Leith Dutch
09-08-2019, 10:22 AM
I’m asking why so many posters are suggesting that Rangers away will prove whether he have the right players or not? 2/3 now have said something about Hecky/new players being found out on Sunday! Surely Sunday’s game won’t be the barometer for the success or failure of the summer’s recruitment process. It will be over the course of a few games - not one of the most difficult away games in the league!
Spot on.
We'll have what we want to achieve in the league this year which is probably ideally 3rd with 4th and Europe a decent season.
The management team will have a good idea of what's needed to achieve that in terms of results in each of the matches:
St Mirren at home will be down as we should definitely be getting 3 points.
Celtic and Rangers away any points got would exceed expectations in that our targeted position wouldn't require any points from those games.
Deciding our manager/recruitment policy is a failure if we lose on Sunday or that we're going to win the league if we win is nuts.
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 10:23 AM
Or calculus. I always say to Yanks let's do the sums. That annoys them.
Math! They understand Math! :greengrin
Gordy M
09-08-2019, 10:26 AM
I've seen Virgil Van Dijk do the same. Point?
The point was you said he was outstanding against the old firm last year........he clearly wasnt. He was at fault for at least one, if not two goals. If thats your definition of supberb/outstanding then maybe you are right after all:aok:
Sean1875
09-08-2019, 10:28 AM
He played just over half their league games the season they got promoted. If he only played half he must have either spent a lot of time injured or a lot of they appearances were most likely off the bench.
Joe Newell by comparison has played a hell of a lot more games at that level than this guy, is a couple years younger and people don’t rate him so far.
I know nothing about the guy, he might be class, but his pedigree is only really decent and that’s about it.
He has a foreign name though which makes him sound more exotic and exciting. If Joe Newell was called Jose Newalldo I genuinely reckon he wouldn't be getting half the stick he is.
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 10:28 AM
Brandon Barker at Ibrox having medical
Source: SSN
FilipinoHibs
09-08-2019, 10:29 AM
Math! They understand Math! :greengrin
No just simple sums🙄
No new signings then?
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 10:30 AM
No just simple sums🙄
No new signings then?
No
Not a bolt
Middleton to be announced Sunday night or Monday apparently
Barman Stanton
09-08-2019, 10:31 AM
Absolute cat crash stuff here. Time to log out again I think.
I wonder if you go over to Kickback you will find Jambos trying to persuade everyone there that Allan is a superb signing. Very much doubt it. Why would you on a Hearts forum. This place is just weird as f at times.
The_Horde
09-08-2019, 10:32 AM
The point was you said he was outstanding against the old firm last year........he clearly wasnt. He was at fault for at least one, if not two goals. If thats your definition of supberb/outstanding then maybe you are right after all:aok:
A fair point, but I didn't say he excelled in every single game against the OF.
But he was superb when they kept clean sheets on 3 other occasions against both uglies. Sure he even got MOTM in one or two.
Since452
09-08-2019, 10:33 AM
I’m always a bit sceptical why if he’s as good as you say other English championship sides never snapped him up.
I know you could say the same about all our signings, I just struggle to worry about signings like this, they rarely turn out as good as people fear.
Because it's Hearts. Remember Sean Clare turned down EPL teams for them
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 10:33 AM
Steven Gerrard confirms Glenn Middleton will join HIBS next week on loan
SSN
Unseen work
09-08-2019, 10:34 AM
Absolute cat crash stuff here. Time to log out again I think.
I wonder if you go over to Kickback you will find Jambos trying to persuade everyone there that Allan is a superb signing. Very much doubt it. Why would you on a Hearts forum. This place is just weird as f at times.
It’s a transfer thread where people are giving their opinions on signings. Hardly surprising people are discussing other teams transfers, some just don’t like the thought of other teams making good signings.
PatHead
09-08-2019, 10:34 AM
At the end of the day, all our signings are ****ing dynamite and all Hearts and Aberdeen’s signings are pish and if you disagree you are a yam troll #GGTTH #HIBSfamily #HeckysAtTheWheel
Don't think anyone is saying that. I just don't get excited at Hearts signings I don't know much about.
Naismith is a good signing if he can stay fit. That is a big if bearing in mind his recent injury record.
I have only really seen Halkett playing against us and never thought he was outstanding but he was decent in a very disciplined side for the first half of the season. He was then part of a side that had relegation form for the second part of the season and were crap away from home on grass pitches. Hence my lack of excitement.
If the rumours are correct and they signed Lafferty again I would think of that as a good signing even although he is a total bellend.
I just am not a guy who gets excited at other teams signings and can't wait to knock our own ones because I have not heard of them.
bingo70
09-08-2019, 10:35 AM
**** the hearts
Hiber-nation
09-08-2019, 10:36 AM
Don't think anyone is saying that. I just don't get excited at Hearts signings I don't know much about.
Naismith is a good signing if he can stay fit. That is a big if bearing in mind his recent injury record.
I have only really seen Halkett playing against us and never thought he was outstanding but he was decent in a very disciplined side for the first half of the season. He was then part of a side that had relegation form for the second part of the season and were crap away from home on grass pitches. Hence my lack of excitement.
If the rumours are correct and they signed Lafferty again I would think of that as a good signing even although he is a total bellend.
Some sense at last. Can we close the thread and open a new one?
PatHead
09-08-2019, 10:45 AM
Just noticed David Bates has gone to Sheffield Wednesday on loan from Hamburg.
jacomo
09-08-2019, 10:46 AM
Or calculus. I always say to Yanks let's do the sums. That annoys them.
For someone complaining about racism on Hibs.net recently, this is a pretty careless comment.
PatHead
09-08-2019, 10:47 AM
For someone complaining about racism on Hibs.net recently, this is a pretty careless comment.
Don't start that again. It ruined one thread already.
jacomo
09-08-2019, 10:49 AM
Some sense at last. Can we close the thread and open a new one?
We need to wait for the dust to settle after the EPL window SLAMMED shut last night. Hopefully the rumours will pick up again soon.
I really want to sign Mulumbu.
weecounty hibby
09-08-2019, 10:49 AM
**** the hearts
The most sensible post on this thread in a couple of days!!
Victor
09-08-2019, 10:54 AM
**** the hearts
And Halkett!!!
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Michael
09-08-2019, 10:55 AM
Brandon Barker at Ibrox having medical
Source: SSN
Shame, like him as a player and will improve them.
JimBHibees
09-08-2019, 10:57 AM
Steven Gerrard confirms Glen Middleton will join HIBS next week on loan
SSN
Good news and hope he does well.
The_Horde
09-08-2019, 11:02 AM
Steven Gerrard confirms Glen Middleton will join HIBS next week on loan
SSN
Delighted with that. Superb young winger.
Deansy
09-08-2019, 11:02 AM
Brandon Barker at Ibrox having medical
Source: SSN
This is heart-breaking - the laddie's a footballer going to a place where football isn't the no.1 objective !
The Hun will drag him down to their levels - tragic !
hibbyfraelibby
09-08-2019, 11:03 AM
Yes, I have BEEN to livi games. I never once said anything to the contrary. So perhaps you should look back at all of my posts before putting words in people's mouths.
Very simple deflection tactics from yourself though, scared to let yourself go and be trolled so you just accuse everyone of trolling. Like a playground bully lashing out at all and sundry.
People have their lucky green boxers in a twist because I said Halkett is superb. If it wasn't the suggestion that hearts had made a good signing, then what was it?
Methinks you are trying too hard to justify yourself Duncan
JimBHibees
09-08-2019, 11:04 AM
This is heart-breaking - the laddie's a footballer going to a place where football isn't the no.1 objective !
The Hun will drag him down to their levels - tragic !
Rangers under Gerrard are actually a decent football team.
The_Horde
09-08-2019, 11:05 AM
Methinks you are trying too hard to justify yourself Duncan
Your middle class west stand jibes don't hurt me, friend.
Delighted with that. Superb young winger.
:thumbsup: :wink:
hibIBZ
09-08-2019, 11:10 AM
Damour looks a good signing on paper but we have seen many and player from the championship not cut it up here. Watching his highlights he likes to dive in to tackles, could be a yellow card machine.
Many sevco fans I've spoken to say Middleton is a good player and think he will do well for us, so hoping he can do the business
FilipinoHibs
09-08-2019, 11:11 AM
Delighted with that. Superb young winger.
Great news. Gerrard was said to be worried by the anxiety it was causing on Hibs net and decided to make the announcement so we could all relax and sleep this weekend. True gent.
BSEJVT
09-08-2019, 11:11 AM
We’d have the same thread tbh.
People like The Horde who rate him would say it’s a superb signing while people like PatHead and BSEJVT would, as you say, be first in line to say he’s fine but nothing special.
That's not what was said though is it?
But lets on go on misrepresenting what was said, noticeable that that other classic troller who started this off hasn't come back on being called out on doing so either.
What a sad wee life you two have constantly stirring up discontent and getting away with it on this board, whilst ruining it for others.
What was said was he is superb, not a superb signing!
There is no objective measurement in the world under which Halkett at this stage of his career can be described as superb. It is possible that he could develop into a good player, then great player, then maybe even a superb player but he patently isn't just now and is fine. Sadly even the notoriously over complimentary press haven't picked up on his superbness as yet.
Still lets big up everyone else's signings and criticise ours and Hibs
FWIW it is worth I would not describe any of our current players as superb but a few have been superb signings
Naismith although not a superb player has been a great signing for them as he has galvanised them into being better than the sum of their parts
I am however totally fed up off continuously reading all the **** peddled by an increasing number of posters on here
I am going to give it a rest for a while, maybe for good.
Thanks to all the posters over the years who have tried to honestly debate the pros and cons of our great football club
GGTTH
Geo_1875
09-08-2019, 11:13 AM
This is heart-breaking - the laddie's a footballer going to a place where football isn't the no.1 objective !
The Hun will drag him down to their levels - tragic !
Very good young winger but very prone to injury. Hope he doesn't get the same treatment Duncan Whatmore got when playing at Hibs.
That's not what was said though is it?
But lets on go on misrepresenting what was said, noticeable that that other classic troller who started this off hasn't come back on being called out on doing so either.
What a sad wee life you two have constantly stirring up discontent and getting away with it on this board, whilst ruining it for others.
What was said was he is superb, not a superb signing!
There is no objective measurement in the world under which Halkett at this stage of his career can be described as superb. It is possible that he could develop into a good player, then great player, then maybe even a superb player but he patently isn't just now and is fine. Sadly even the notoriously over complimentary press haven't picked up on his superbness as yet.
Still lets big up everyone else's signings and criticise ours and Hibs
FWIW it is worth I would not describe any of our current players as superb but a few have been superb signings
Naismith although not a superb player has been a great signing for them as he has galvanised them into being better than the sum of their parts
I am however totally fed up off continuously reading all the **** peddled by an increasing number of posters on here
I am going to give it a rest for a while, maybe for good.
Thanks to all the posters over the years who have tried to honestly debate the pros and cons of our great football club
GGTTH
:top marks
FilipinoHibs
09-08-2019, 11:20 AM
Very good young winger but very prone to injury. Hope he doesn't get the same treatment Duncan Whatmore got when playing at Hibs.
We have Daz to protect him.
flash
09-08-2019, 11:20 AM
This is heart-breaking - the laddie's a footballer going to a place where football isn't the no.1 objective !
The Hun will drag him down to their levels - tragic !
i know i shouldn't ask but it's such a strange comment i feel i have to. What's their number 1 objective if it isn't football?
Greenworld
09-08-2019, 11:21 AM
All about opinions, to me he looks sluggish for want of a better word and not particularly switched on BUT it's early days it's only initial impressions on all the new signings. I'm not going to write anyone off, you only need to look at Cosgrove to see how some players take time to settle at a new club.I think that is key time to bed in. How many times do we here from players from the south surprised at the pace of the game up here. James looks to me like he has great ball control and passing like you I'll vice them a couple of months and hope they are all flying
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Wee Effen Bee
09-08-2019, 11:28 AM
For someone complaining about racism on Hibs.net recently, this is a pretty careless comment.
Eh? Calling Americans ‘Yanks’ is classless?
huggie1875
09-08-2019, 11:31 AM
what players ie starter and back up keep middleton out the ranger team?
My_Wife_Camille
09-08-2019, 11:34 AM
That's not what was said though is it?
Halkett is fine
As per the above, that is exactly what was said.
As usual,some people on this forum get their knickers in a twist when someone says something they don't agree with and start accusing them of trolling rather than engaging in a discussion. It's these sort of reactions that ruin the mood on this forum, not the opinion that someone is a superb player.
Calling someone a superb player is not trolling. You are quite within your rights to disagree and debate the point but it is not trolling, no matter how much you don't like it or disagree with it. Likewise, calling someone a superb player does not ruin anything for anybody.
You are the one who is misrepresenting what was said. The poster has not been bigging up everyone else's signings and criticising ours. He has praised one Hearts signing. Debate it or deal with it but don't 'ruin the thread' by complaining about it and turning it into a witch hunt.
If you wouldn't describe anyone as superb then great, that is your opinion. I respect that, just as you should respect others opinions without accusing them of trolling.
If you don't like the nature of a discussion forum where there are going to be a hundreds if not thousands of varying opinions and points of view then maybe you're making the right choice in leaving the site.
Hopefully we see you back on here soon.
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 11:34 AM
All about opinions, to me he looks sluggish for want of a better word and not particularly switched on BUT it's early days it's only initial impressions on all the new signings. I'm not going to write anyone off, you only need to look at Cosgrove to see how some players take time to settle at a new club.
Cosgrove is flying fair play to him
The other guy they had a few years back was James Maddison never really noticed him but is now bigging it up with Leicester City in the EPL
Never say never 😁
Heisenberg
09-08-2019, 11:38 AM
Middleton was extremely close to going to Holland but we showed some interest last minute and he picked us instead. Looking forward to seeing him play.
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 11:45 AM
That's not what was said though is it?
But lets on go on misrepresenting what was said, noticeable that that other classic troller who started this off hasn't come back on being called out on doing so either.
What a sad wee life you two have constantly stirring up discontent and getting away with it on this board, whilst ruining it for others.
What was said was he is superb, not a superb signing!
There is no objective measurement in the world under which Halkett at this stage of his career can be described as superb. It is possible that he could develop into a good player, then great player, then maybe even a superb player but he patently isn't just now and is fine. Sadly even the notoriously over complimentary press haven't picked up on his superbness as yet.
Still lets big up everyone else's signings and criticise ours and Hibs
FWIW it is worth I would not describe any of our current players as superb but a few have been superb signings
Naismith although not a superb player has been a great signing for them as he has galvanised them into being better than the sum of their parts
I am however totally fed up off continuously reading all the **** peddled by an increasing number of posters on here
I am going to give it a rest for a while, maybe for good.
Thanks to all the posters over the years who have tried to honestly debate the pros and cons of our great football club
GGTTH
Please do not go BSEJVT!
You are one of the good guys!
The one I can rely upon to keep your cool when all about are losing theirs
A veritable island of common sense and wisdom in a sea of mayhem especially in defeat
Pretty please! 😁
FilipinoHibs
09-08-2019, 11:45 AM
Eh? Calling Americans ‘Yanks’ is classless?
The great imperialist racists. In Brasil we call them gringos. In what way is Yanks racist? I dont think you can be racist against the great white oppressors.
In the US civil war was used a derogatory term for the north. But since then used as term to describe their boorish arrogance all round the world. Used by those who have suffered their bullying and insincerity.
HFC93
09-08-2019, 11:45 AM
what players ie starter and back up keep middleton out the ranger team?
Ojo & Jones. Looks like they're signing Barker as well. They also still have Grezda on their books.
Last season it was Kent.
The Modfather
09-08-2019, 11:56 AM
It’s amazing that when a thread goes off tangent and invariably ends up with accusations of trolling and counter trolling you can predict some of the posters who will be in the thick of it before you’ve even read the thread.
The 90+2
09-08-2019, 11:57 AM
The great imperialist racists. In Brasil we call them gringos. In what way is Yanks racist? I dont think you can be racist against the great white oppressors.
In the US civil war was used a derogatory term for the north. But since then used as term to describe their boorish arrogance all round the world. Used by those who have suffered their bullying and insincerity.
It’s an offensive word used against a country and North American (white)race. Pretty racist to me.
matty_f
09-08-2019, 11:59 AM
Kind of just doing this as a token gesture - but any chance we can get this back on topic, even to make it broadly about transfers or football even.
FilipinoHibs
09-08-2019, 12:04 PM
It’s an offensive word used against a country and North American (white)race. Pretty racist to me.
In the Philippines we call them Americanos. Originally lighter skinned Hispanic/South Americans. Also means coward as the US white rulers left the Filiipinos to suffer at hands of imperial Japan. As I said you can't be racist against the great white oppressor that has invaded countless countries and arrogantly throws its weight around bringing death and misery to tens if not hundreds of millions of people.https://www.indy100.com/article/usa-american-army-invasions-police-actions-overseas-dod-defense-war-troops-deployment-marines-7908611
Ardenttwo
09-08-2019, 12:07 PM
Kind of just doing this as a token gesture - but any chance we can get this back on topic, even to make it broadly about transfers or football even.
Not a chance of that happening We are back to the American Civil War now
My_Wife_Camille
09-08-2019, 12:10 PM
It’s amazing that when a thread goes off tangent and invariably ends up with accusations of trolling and counter trolling you can predict some of the posters who will be in the thick of it before you’ve even read the thread.
It's a shame but it's essentially become a self fulfilling prophecy.
Poster A makes perfectly reasonable post
Poster B doesn't like Poster A and accuses him of trolling
Poster A defends himself
Thread off topic and becomes an argument about trolling
Poster C, "ah there's Poster A ruining threads again".
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it - if people showed the same levels of respect towards opinions they don't agree with to those they do agree with then the threads wouldn't go off like this.
The 90+2
09-08-2019, 12:12 PM
The french boy looks good on paper for them and had half a good season for Cardiff. So did that Marbury Martin guy though, I would be more concerned if they convinced Whelan to sign, Whelan would do a great job in our team also.
My_Wife_Camille
09-08-2019, 12:13 PM
Kind of just doing this as a token gesture - but any chance we can get this back on topic, even to make it broadly about transfers or football even.
Fair call Matty, as we were...
I agree with TH. Halkett is a superb player at this level and I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of other posters
ahibby
09-08-2019, 12:16 PM
Good news and hope he does well.
I've had time to get used to this move, I've calmed down a bit from my initial knee jerk response and wish the lad all the best at Hibs. He is a good player, one that I didn't like Hibs coming up against last season and so credit where credit is due. On top of that he chose Hibs above at least one other option he had and he has made the right choice, for himself but hopefully we can benefit some.
The Modfather
09-08-2019, 12:17 PM
It's a shame but it's essentially become a self fulfilling prophecy.
Poster A makes perfectly reasonable post
Poster B doesn't like Poster A and accuses him of trolling
Poster A defends himself
Thread off topic and becomes an argument about trolling
Poster C, "ah there's Poster A ruining threads again".
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it - if people showed the same levels of respect towards opinions they don't agree with to those they do agree with then the threads wouldn't go off like this.
That may well be true in terms of self fulfilling prophecies, but those posters, poster A and his friend poster D who is never far away, have made rods for their own backs IMO. So difficult to have too much sympathy the times they are unfairly accused of trolling, again IMO.
The 90+2
09-08-2019, 12:19 PM
Fair call Matty, as we were...
I agree with TH. Halkett is a superb player at this level and I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of other posters
He had a fantastic season with Livingston and I’m surprised he went over the road. I think it will be a season there then a move down south next season if he continues to improve. He’s a better player than the older rated Soutar while Berra is finished. Hearts play the same way as Livi too so it will suit his style of battering ram play.
The Modfather
09-08-2019, 12:20 PM
Is Gregg Docherty likely to remain at Rangers this season or go out on loan again? If relations between both clubs appear to be thawing, with Rangers loaning is a player, would love for us to try and get Docherty If at all possible, although probably unlikely.
dchibs
09-08-2019, 12:21 PM
Delighted with that. Superb young winger.
I don't know much about this lad, can you tell me what type of player we are getting.
Heisenberg
09-08-2019, 12:22 PM
Fair call Matty, as we were...
I agree with TH. Halkett is a superb player at this level and I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of other posters
I would slightly disagree in that I wouldn’t go as far as “superb”. I’d say he’s decent enough and Hearts are about his level.
JimBHibees
09-08-2019, 12:23 PM
Is Gregg Docherty likely to remain at Rangers this season or go out on loan again? If relations between both clubs appear to be thawing, with Rangers loaning is a player, would love for us to try and get Docherty If at all possible, although probably unlikely.
Agree he would be an excellent signing
The_Horde
09-08-2019, 12:23 PM
I don't know much about this lad, can you tell me what type of player we are getting.
I can't. But I can tell you he's superb because he signed for Hibs.
If he'd signed for hearts he'd be a terrible signing.
The 90+2
09-08-2019, 12:23 PM
Is Gregg Docherty likely to remain at Rangers this season or go out on loan again? If relations between both clubs appear to be thawing, with Rangers loaning is a player, would love for us to try and get Docherty If at all possible, although probably unlikely.
His only option apart from L1 again would be a loan to a Prem side up here. Saying that regardless of much I rate the player I can’t see for the life of me us loaning two of their players.
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 12:24 PM
Saved ma bacon when he scored two late goals when I was on Hearts when they were 0-1 doon versus Stenny at Home in the LC if that helps?
Good for our level but not superb
Virgil Van Dyck is superb
hibsbollah
09-08-2019, 12:24 PM
Fair call Matty, as we were...
I agree with TH. Halkett is a superb player at this level and I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of other posters
Disagree, they would have been much better off looking at the South American market.
flash
09-08-2019, 12:24 PM
Fair call Matty, as we were...
I agree with TH. Halkett is a superb player at this level and I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of other posters
Well at least both of your usernames are consistent.
SaulGoodman
09-08-2019, 12:26 PM
So nae signings then?
hibsbollah
09-08-2019, 12:26 PM
Well at least both of your usernames are consistent.
I just assumed his wife really is called Camille, are you accusing him of making up his own wife's name? :grr:
Barman Stanton
09-08-2019, 12:27 PM
I can't. But I can tell you he's superb because he signed for Hibs.
If he'd signed for hearts he'd be a terrible signing.
Ffs you do realise you are on a Hibs forum yeah?
hibsbollah
09-08-2019, 12:28 PM
Ffs you do realise you are on a Hibs forum yeah?
The things you learn.
BILLYHIBS
09-08-2019, 12:30 PM
So nae signings then?
Middleton on loan next week mate
Apart from that nothing to report
Spudster
09-08-2019, 12:31 PM
Is Gregg Docherty likely to remain at Rangers this season or go out on loan again? If relations between both clubs appear to be thawing, with Rangers loaning is a player, would love for us to try and get Docherty If at all possible, although probably unlikely.
I don’t think you can loan two players from the same team (in the same division).
Barman Stanton
09-08-2019, 12:33 PM
The things you learn.
If a stranger stumbled on this thread without knowing I’m not sure it would be obvious.
Victor
09-08-2019, 12:34 PM
Fair call Matty, as we were...
I agree with TH. Halkett is a superb player at this level and I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of other posters
superb
/suːˈpəːb/
adjective
1.
very good; excellent.
"a superb performance"
synonyms:excellent, superlative, first-rate, first-class, superior, supreme, outstanding, remarkable, dazzling, marvellous, magnificent, wonderful, splendid, admirable, noteworthy, impressive, fine, exquisite, exceptional, glorious, sublime, perfect, of the first order, of the first water; More
2.
impressively splendid.
"the Bey of Tunis was building himself a superb mausoleum"
synonyms:magnificent, majestic, splendid, grand, impressive, imposing, awe-inspiring, breathtaking; gorgeous, choice, resplendent, stately; sumptuous, opulent, lavish, luxurious, deluxe; informalplush, ritzy
"a superb diamond necklace"
Personally, I don’t think it appropriate to describe Mr. Halkett as any of the above. Competent, professional, useful are all accurate descriptions, in my opinion. I think it is the choice of superlative that people are disagreeing with.
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I can't. But I can tell you he's superb because he signed for Hibs.
If he'd signed for hearts he'd be a terrible signing.
Yes, because extreme polarised opinions stretched out one way or another are the only ones available, aren't they.
hibsbollah
09-08-2019, 12:40 PM
If a stranger stumbled on this thread without knowing I’m not sure it would be obvious.
Whether or not he is a stranger? Just look at the post count of the poster concerned and all will become clear.
My_Wife_Camille
09-08-2019, 12:40 PM
superb
/suːˈpəːb/
adjective
1.
very good; excellent.
"a superb performance"
synonyms:excellent, superlative, first-rate, first-class, superior, supreme, outstanding, remarkable, dazzling, marvellous, magnificent, wonderful, splendid, admirable, noteworthy, impressive, fine, exquisite, exceptional, glorious, sublime, perfect, of the first order, of the first water; More
2.
impressively splendid.
"the Bey of Tunis was building himself a superb mausoleum"
synonyms:magnificent, majestic, splendid, grand, impressive, imposing, awe-inspiring, breathtaking; gorgeous, choice, resplendent, stately; sumptuous, opulent, lavish, luxurious, deluxe; informalplush, ritzy
"a superb diamond necklace"
Personally, I don’t think it appropriate to describe Mr. Halkett as any of the above. Competent, professional, useful are all accurate descriptions, in my opinion. I think it is the choice of superlative that people are disagreeing with.
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As is their right. I both respect and welcome their opposing views
Personally, I don’t think it appropriate to describe Mr. Halkett as any of the above. Competent, professional, useful are all accurate descriptions, in my opinion. I think it is the choice of superlative that people are disagreeing with.
Correct, because if he were "superb" he wouldn't be signing for Hearts.
blackpoolhibs
09-08-2019, 12:42 PM
So nae signings then?
This is what happens when you get your signings in early. :greengrin
Allant1981
09-08-2019, 12:44 PM
I can't. But I can tell you he's superb because he signed for Hibs.
If he'd signed for hearts he'd be a terrible signing.
Why? Another post to get a reaction from folk
Barman Stanton
09-08-2019, 12:46 PM
Whether or not he is a stranger? Just look at the post count of the poster concerned and all will become clear.
I can see that. Still think it’s bizarre arguing with fellow Hibs fans because your insistent that Hearts new signing is superb. And then to make the childish comment that our new signing must be superb because he is signing for Hibs. I just don’t get it. Perhaps I need another long break from this site (like many I know I have done).
hibsbollah
09-08-2019, 12:48 PM
Yes, because extreme polarised opinions stretched out one way or another are the only ones available, aren't they.
I cant tell if this is sarcasm.
The 90+2
09-08-2019, 12:52 PM
Correct, because if he were "superb" he wouldn't be signing for Hearts.
He was superb for Livi.
Scotty Allan has signed again based on/despite being superb for us.
ahibby
09-08-2019, 12:52 PM
I can see that. Still think it’s bizarre arguing with fellow Hibs fans because your insistent that Hearts new signing is superb. And then to make the childish comment that our new signing must be superb because he is signing for Hibs. I just don’t get it. Perhaps I need another long break from this site (like many I know I have done).
I wasn't going to bite because enough of this thread has been hijacked away from the focus of the title. However, I have to agree with you and something feels wrong about their posts, it's almost like they are trying to change this from a Hibs forum into an offshoot of Keekback. Something I find distasteful to say the least. We should discuss the merits of our players and leave them to discuss theirs.
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