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GreenCastle
10-07-2024, 09:34 PM
The World Cup will always be the big one..

Winning the Euros would obviously be massive for England but the World Cup is different level especially outside England.

England men like the women’s team have invested huge amounts of money into the set up so wouldn’t be a total surprise.

Meanwhile Scotland are stuck with Che Adams who wouldn’t even get into England B team.

Scottish football will never fully progress till the SFA changes.

GreenCastle
10-07-2024, 09:36 PM
England have best squad - i have no doubt in that. But in common with the top teams a lot of their top stars have looked knackered.

Along with how Var is being used (not the technology in its self) the amount of games the top players are being asked to play is ridiculous and leading to a poorer product. playing for 11 months of 50-65 games for some just leads to what we have seen often in these games.

won't change as money talks... and now with FIFA pushing its world club championship it will get even worse

Next World Cup is even bigger = possibly more boring games as teams doing just enough to get into next rounds.

Jim44
10-07-2024, 09:39 PM
I can’t understand why the UEFA officials, corruptly, awarded that penalty to England, a country which doesn’t want to be a part of Europe. I could have understood it, but not agreed with it, if the shoe was on the other foot and they had awarded one like that to the Netherlands. In my opinion, it is one of the worst VAR decisions I have seen, in its short, controversial, corrupt existence. For some intangible reason, England’s name is already inscribed on the cup.

He's here!
10-07-2024, 09:40 PM
You love this decent 😄 enough bunch line

Yeh, international football doesn't do it for me these days (although I did quite enjoy watching the recent women's Euros and World Cup with my daughter) so I can't claim to have watched the games, but on paper I find it hard to see anything objectionable about the players or manager compared to England sides of yesteryear.

truehibernian
10-07-2024, 09:42 PM
Bellingham after Zwayer didn't give an obvious penalty to Dortmund against Bayern causing the game to be halted and Zwayer to take a break from football in 2021

"Jude Bellingham made reference to the Zwayer affair, saying: "You give a referee that has match fixed before the biggest game in Germany, what do you expect?"

Was a penalty for me, no difference to one we got v Hearts when Hanlon nipped it off the Hearts strikers toes - was a very ill timed challenge with his foot up and nowhere near the ball.

Onion
10-07-2024, 09:42 PM
I thought that the Dutch were absolutely awful - only Gakpo seemed to be their spark.

England haven’t played well or come up against a good team never mind an excellent team (like Spain) yet so it will be interesting to see how they cope with them.

Could be a decent final if England avoid being dull.

The irony here is England might play really well, have no luck and get gubbed.

Agree, where was the driven, determined side that beat the Turks ? What was the point ?

Saying that, have seen plenty 50/50 Hibs games where ridiculous key decisions have determined the flow and outcome.

Hiber-nation
10-07-2024, 09:43 PM
Pleased for Southgate. He takes a stack of flack but his record is outstanding. Successive Euro finals is some achievement considering England hadn't been in a final since 66.

No problem with England winning either. I don't have an issue with them the way I do with Hearts. They seem a decent enough bunch and while I'm unlikely to watch the final I'd prefer them to win than Spain as I know how much it would mean to a lot of English friends and relatives.

A decent bunch aye? If you set aside all the serial diving they've been getting away with.

Up-the-slope
10-07-2024, 09:46 PM
Next World Cup is even bigger = possibly more boring games as teams doing just enough to get into next rounds.

yup good point that only adds to what I think.

I guess the way Pep rotates is one example of how to refresh a team - but he has expressed frustration many times saying players are human and the week in week out 2 games a week - tv scheduling like 12.30 away saturday etc just insane after midweek games that might have been away.

The first game in EPL is 16th August 4 1/2 weeks after Euros final

Stairway 2 7
10-07-2024, 09:48 PM
Was a penalty for me, no difference to one we got v Hearts when Hanlon nipped it off the Hearts strikers toes - was a very ill timed challenge with his foot up and nowhere near the ball.

You and Ian Wright are the only two I've seen saying that. All other commentators are rightly saying it's a joke. The shot is taken kane follows through. As a defender you'd just have to step out the way if someone is shooting just in case they follow through and kick you. Well played Nevil calling it a disgrace

Mcbizz1998
10-07-2024, 09:48 PM
I can’t understand why the UEFA officials, corruptly, awarded that penalty to England, a country which doesn’t want to be a part of Europe. I could have understood it, but not agreed with it, if the shoe was on the other foot and they had awarded one like that to the Netherlands. In my opinion, it is one of the worst VAR decisions I have seen, in its short, controversial, corrupt existence. For some intangible reason, England’s name is already inscribed on the cup.


������ ffs are you being serious with that first line?

NC1875
10-07-2024, 09:48 PM
yup good point that only adds to what I think.

I guess the way Pep rotates is one example of how to refresh a team - but he has expressed frustration many times saying players are human and the week in week out 2 games a week - tv scheduling like 12.30 away saturday etc just insane after midweek games that might have been away.

The first game in EPL is 16th August 4 1/2 weeks after Euros final

Meanwhile, Joe Bloggs has done his 14th 12 hour shift in a row.

It’s a hard life

FastEddieFelson
10-07-2024, 09:50 PM
Was a penalty for me, no difference to one we got v Hearts when Hanlon nipped it off the Hearts strikers toes - was a very ill timed challenge with his foot up and nowhere near the ball.

Don't remember the Hanlon incident you're referring to. What year was that?

truehibernian
10-07-2024, 09:52 PM
You and Ian Wright are the only two I've seen saying that. All other commentators are rightly saying it's a joke. The shot is taken kane follows through. As a defender you'd just have to step out the way if someone is shooting just in case they follow through and kick you. Well played Nevil calling it a disgrace

The defender is nowhere near the ball and hangs his foot up and catches Kane immediately the shot is taken - didn’t see the defender complaining either which is always a tell tale sign he knew it was misjudged.

truehibernian
10-07-2024, 09:53 PM
Don't remember the Hanlon incident you're referring to. What year was that?

1-1, McNulty missed the penalty

Onceinawhile
10-07-2024, 09:54 PM
The defender is nowhere near the ball and hangs his foot up and catches Kane immediately the shot is taken - didn’t see the defender complaining either which is always a tell tale sign he knew it was misjudged.

The fact only ian Wright thought it was a penalty out of all the pundits, presenters, commentators and VAR experts must tell you otherwise?

Harry kane kicks him with his follow through.

In addition, after being booked, Bellingham commits 2 foils (one was at least a yellow) and kicks the ball away but nothing happens...

The Modfather
10-07-2024, 09:55 PM
The defender is nowhere near the ball and hangs his foot up and catches Kane immediately the shot is taken - didn’t see the defender complaining either which is always a tell tale sign he knew it was misjudged.

Kane catches the Dutch player with his follow through, not the other way about. If that’s a penalty, alongside defenders having to try and defend with their arms unnaturally behind their back anytime they are in the box what’s the point of being a defender nowadays.

truehibernian
10-07-2024, 09:57 PM
The fact only ian Wright thought it was a penalty out of all the pundits, presenters, commentators and VAR experts must tell you otherwise?

Harry kane kicks him with his follow through.

In addition, after being booked, Bellingham commits 2 foils (one was at least a yellow) and kicks the ball away but nothing happens...

I agree about Bellingham but the defender catches Kane even though the shot goes off - regardless the Dutch tactics were awful, too narrow, defensive and they didn’t look like they had belief - England deserved the win. Much better team on the night.

Stairway 2 7
10-07-2024, 10:00 PM
The defender is nowhere near the ball and hangs his foot up and catches Kane immediately the shot is taken - didn’t see the defender complaining either which is always a tell tale sign he knew it was misjudged.

The defender doesn't make the contract and wouldn't have made contact if Kane didn't kick him. Ex England defenders like Dixon and Neville slatting it

Jamie Carragher
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Never a penalty 😂😂

CockneyRebel
10-07-2024, 10:01 PM
������ ffs are you being serious with that first line?

Whar about the second line?

gbhibby
10-07-2024, 10:02 PM
yup good point that only adds to what I think.

I guess the way Pep rotates is one example of how to refresh a team - but he has expressed frustration many times saying players are human and the week in week out 2 games a week - tv scheduling like 12.30 away saturday etc just insane after midweek games that might have been away.

The first game in EPL is 16th August 4 1/2 weeks after Euros final
Other sports the players play every other day week in week out. Most pros I have spoken to would rather be playing than training. The players playing in the Euros at the later stages will not need much of a pre season.

Callum_62
10-07-2024, 10:03 PM
I agree about Bellingham but the defender catches Kane even though the shot goes off - regardless the Dutch tactics were awful, too narrow, defensive and they didn’t look like they had belief - England deserved the win. Much better team on the night.Is quite clearly and obviously not a penalty

Quite how the VAR decided it clearly and obviously was a penalty is baffling to me and pretty much every pundit - it's a clanger

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truehibernian
10-07-2024, 10:04 PM
Kane catches the Dutch player with his follow through, not the other way about. If that’s a penalty, alongside defenders having to try and defend with their arms unnaturally behind their back anytime they are in the box what’s the point of being a defender nowadays.

Omeonga got away with a very very similar one at Tynie when Souttar got a nick to the ball first - it’s a penalty for me and the Dutch defender didn’t even complain, nor did his captain. His foot hangs nowhere near the ball, I’d always be looking for it if it were me.

Jim44
10-07-2024, 10:04 PM
������ ffs are you being serious with that first line?

Very.

FastEddieFelson
10-07-2024, 10:08 PM
1-1, McNulty missed the penalty

Ah yes. Here it is

https://youtu.be/WxNZT-CmwDc?feature=shared

Would say the two challenges are very different, given Kane is getting a shot away and it's him that initiates the contact.

Still I'm not as certain as some seem to be that tonight's wasn't a penalty... I can see why it was given.

Stairway 2 7
10-07-2024, 10:10 PM
Ah yes. Here it is

https://youtu.be/WxNZT-CmwDc?feature=shared

Would say the two challenges are very different, given Kane is getting a shot away and it's him that initiates the contact.

Still I'm not as certain as some seem to be that tonight's wasn't a penalty... I can see why it was given.

They are completely different as it was Kane that hit Dumfries, waste of my time watching that man ha.

To be fair of the 50 or so comments from England fans I've seen on twitter all are saying penalty but they deserved the win, which I agree with.

Onion
10-07-2024, 10:13 PM
That includes the euros, world cup, Copa America and afcon. I guess the Asia cup too.

So England wouldn't make the top 20 worst teams.

Seen some amazing Euro and WC finals over the years. EURO 24 has, by comparison, been a borefest.

It may be fitting that one of the least crappy/luckiest teams stumbles over the line but hopefully Spain (the best team by a distance) will stop that happening.

truehibernian
10-07-2024, 10:15 PM
Seen some amazing Euro and WC finals over the years. EURO 24 has, by comparison, been a borefest.

It may be fitting that one of the least crappy/luckiest teams stumbles over the line but hopefully Spain (the best team by a distance) will stop that happening.

The difference on Sunday will be Spain have a midfield, tonight Holland didn’t. And a world class midfield too.

1875Hibees
10-07-2024, 10:30 PM
Just as some people on here were recovering from election night this happens and the tears have started flowing again lol

Tambo
10-07-2024, 10:30 PM
Boss let us watch the game if we worked through our breaks, fair play to England, back to back Euros finals and can they win it?

Being born in England, I wouldn't begrudge them the victory on Sunday I do fancy Spain though.

Never a pen!

Scouse Hibee
10-07-2024, 10:44 PM
We’re so bad, the ref is corrupt, worst VAR decision ever. I love this thread 😀🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Can’t wait for Sunday when it will either be much the same as above or England were beaten by first decent team they played blah, blah, blah 😂

gbhibby
10-07-2024, 10:56 PM
We’re so bad, the ref is corrupt, worst VAR decision ever. I love this thread 😀🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Can’t wait for Sunday when it will either be much the same as above or England were beaten by first decent team they played blah, blah, blah 😂
We are getting really worried up here as the last time England won a trophy there was a Labour government 😁😁

heretoday
10-07-2024, 11:44 PM
We are getting really worried up here as the last time England won a trophy there was a Labour government 😁😁

That's right. It's the Starmer bounce like Harold won the WC in 66.
He was enough of an opportunist to claim some of the credit!

Jim44
11-07-2024, 12:48 AM
We’re so bad, the ref is corrupt, worst VAR decision ever. I love this thread 😀🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Can’t wait for Sunday when it will either be much the same as above or England were beaten by first decent team they played blah, blah, blah 😂

Well mr Scouse Hibby, I am convinced that you will be a happy man on Sunday as Spain are unfortunate enough to be against the team which has been chosen to win. You’re correct. We will all be spouting your former suggestion, if and when they win, but, in my opinion, there is little likelihood of the latter, as England are being offered the tournament on a plate. ****** knows why, as they are piss poor, but they are. :greengrin

B.H.F.C
11-07-2024, 06:12 AM
What England have going for them is multiple players that can come up with a moment coupled with a lot of spirit and determination. They’ve come from behind in every knockout game but they’ll need to be a hell of a lot better than that to get past Spain.

MWHIBBIES
11-07-2024, 06:12 AM
Obviously a ridiculous penalty decision but do think England deserved to win. Had the better of it.

Shows their depth being able to bring quality like Watkins on.

ekhibee
11-07-2024, 06:50 AM
I had the correct score so got some money back on it, it shouldn't have been a penalty though, and to those who said the defender never complained, well why in that case did the ref feel the need to explain it to him afterwards, which he clearly did. And it's irrelevant if one sides better than the other that doesn't make it the right decision. How many times have we been the better team in derby games and lost or drawn these games.And just out of curiosity, was that the ref who served a six month ban for match fixing?

Since452
11-07-2024, 07:07 AM
Incredible that Spain in the final will be the first "elite" team England have faced so far. It's quite bizarre. If they don't win this it's a monumental opportunity missed.

Trinity Hibee
11-07-2024, 07:09 AM
I had the correct score so got some money back on it, it shouldn't have been a penalty though, and to those who said the defender never complained, well why in that case did the ref feel the need to explain it to him afterwards, which he clearly did. And it's irrelevant if one sides better than the other that doesn't make it the right decision. How many times have we been the better team in derby games and lost or drawn these games.And just out of curiosity, was that the ref who served a six month ban for match fixing?

It was indeed the ref who has a match fixing past.

Harry Kane bought that pen and the officials fell for it. Disgraceful decision particularly in a game of that magnitude.

Smartie
11-07-2024, 07:11 AM
England actually played well first half after they went behind. I thought they needed to score at that point though as they’ve played well for 20 minutes or so here and there in this tournament then fallen back into their laboured pattern of play. It then becomes a lottery whether they win or not, even though they’ve managed to come good every time so far.

Re the penalty - I think that might be a foul elsewhere on the pitch therefore a penalty in the box. If an attacker hangs a foot like that when a defender is making a clearance and injures him it’s considered to be a bit naughty so can the same not be applied there in the box? I guess the bit that is frustrating is that on one day it goes one way on another day and for another team it’s something different. First instinct for me though was that it was never a penalty.

Spain have been strong so far and I’ve been sort of waiting for them to run out of puff - often the best team in the tournament get edged out by anti-football and penalties at some point. Hopefully they’ve got one last big performance in them.

Heisenberg
11-07-2024, 07:13 AM
The finish by Watkins was ridiculous, such a good player. Given the squad they’ve got it’s really about time they do win a major tournament but let’s hope they are still waiting after Sunday.

Coach Jon
11-07-2024, 07:17 AM
I had the correct score so got some money back on it, it shouldn't have been a penalty though, and to those who said the defender never complained, well why in that case did the ref feel the need to explain it to him afterwards, which he clearly did. And it's irrelevant if one sides better than the other that doesn't make it the right decision. How many times have we been the better team in derby games and lost or drawn these games.And just out of curiosity, was that the ref who served a six month ban for match fixing?

Yes, he was banned for six months in 2005 for his part in a match fixing scandal when he was found guilty of accepting a bribe in a Bundesliga match.
The German FA tried to cover it up and it only came into the public domain when a German newspaper published a secret file from the German FA several years later.
Quite how he has been allowed to continue refereeing top class games after that is scandalous.

Up-the-slope
11-07-2024, 07:35 AM
Meanwhile, Joe Bloggs has done his 14th 12 hour shift in a row.

It’s a hard life

Never said otherwise - my point you missed is that fans are being short changed. Its like saving to see you lifetime favourite band only to find after dozens of tour dates the lead singer has a sore throat and the drummer has lost his zip, and spectacle is downgraded due to fatigue

J-C
11-07-2024, 07:36 AM
I'll be happy for them to win on Sunday just so they shut the **** up about football's coming home and that bloody song.

Joe6-2
11-07-2024, 07:38 AM
I'll be happy for them to win on Sunday just so they shut the **** up about football's coming home and that bloody song.

You really think them winning it will shut them up? If it’s possible they will be even more unbearable

Up-the-slope
11-07-2024, 07:48 AM
I might be in a minority on here, but I think the two best teams on each side of the draw are in the final. I also think it will be a fascinating game. The fact Spain will attack will suit England and visa versa. The Dutch were more expansive first half and allowed England to play and Mainoo and Foden particulary used that space well. after first hald and half time subs by Koeman they packed the midfield and relied inly on FB's to get forward. England in response went back to pass pass pass across back and midfield with little penetration until the subs (which I reckon were 10 mins late) came on.

Much the better team won. Pen (that was never one in real time and very debatable in freeze frame) aside they hit the post / had ball cleared off the line as well as other clear chances.

right i'm off to wash my mouth out :greengrin

Fuzzywuzzy
11-07-2024, 07:52 AM
If they win (or probably lose) there will be calls for knighthoods and mbe's. There will be at least a month of fawning going to the obligatory mention every motd.

Bostonhibby
11-07-2024, 07:52 AM
Incredible that Spain in the final will be the first "elite" team England have faced so far. It's quite bizarre. If they don't win this it's a monumental opportunity missed.See previous major tournaments generally......

Can only beat what's in front of you, however it's been created.

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marinello59
11-07-2024, 07:56 AM
I might be in a minority on here, but I think the two best teams on each side of the draw are in the final. I also think it will be a fascinating game. The fact Spain will attack will suit England and visa versa. The Dutch were more expansive first half and allowed England to play and Mainoo and Foden particulary used that space well. after first hald and half time subs by Koeman they packed the midfield and relied inly on FB's to get forward. England in response went back to pass pass pass across back and midfield with little penetration until the subs (which I reckon were 10 mins late) came on.

Much the better team won. Pen (that was never one in real time and very debatable in freeze frame) aside they hit the post / had ball cleared off the line as well as other clear chances.

right i'm off to wash my mouth out :greengrin

:agree:

He's here!
11-07-2024, 08:00 AM
Well mr Scouse Hibby, I am convinced that you will be a happy man on Sunday as Spain are unfortunate enough to be against the team which has been chosen to win. You’re correct. We will all be spouting your former suggestion, if and when they win, but, in my opinion, there is little likelihood of the latter, as England are being offered the tournament on a plate. ****** knows why, as they are piss poor, but they are. :greengrin

Are they really 'piss poor'? They've got a terrific squad and when all's said and done they've reached a second successive Euros final. Must be doing something right.

JimBHibees
11-07-2024, 08:09 AM
Yes, he was banned for six months in 2005 for his part in a match fixing scandal when he was found guilty of accepting a bribe in a Bundesliga match.
The German FA tried to cover it up and it only came into the public domain when a German newspaper published a secret file from the German FA several years later.
Quite how he has been allowed to continue refereeing top class games after that is scandalous.

Your final sentence is the thing a ref getting a euros semi final after a match fixing ban a well publicised spat with one of the top players of one of the teams involved kind of beggars belief. Almost SFA levels of incompetent governance.

JimBHibees
11-07-2024, 08:11 AM
If they win (or probably lose) there will be calls for knighthoods and mbe's. There will be at least a month of fawning going to the obligatory mention every motd.

Good thing might be we all get a public holiday when they win 🇬🇧 😄

Bristolhibby
11-07-2024, 08:17 AM
If they win (or probably lose) there will be calls for knighthoods and mbe's. There will be at least a month of fawning going to the obligatory mention every motd.

Do t forget the massive parade in London where 5m people will be in attendance.

Could do without that TBH.

J

we are hibs
11-07-2024, 08:24 AM
McCoist was unbearable last night.


Not only up England's arse but his commentary in general just consists of everything being over exaggerated and the cheeky chappy routine is beyond tedious.

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Since452
11-07-2024, 08:31 AM
Can't stand McCoist. Everything about him is an act.

Mcbizz1998
11-07-2024, 08:32 AM
Incredible that Spain in the final will be the first "elite" team England have faced so far. It's quite bizarre. If they don't win this it's a monumental opportunity missed.

True but it isn't Englands fault that France didn't top their group.

babahibs
11-07-2024, 09:09 AM
Do t forget the massive parade in London where 5m people will be in attendance.

Could do without that TBH.

J

Surely that's only a problem if you're in London on the day of the parade?

babahibs
11-07-2024, 09:10 AM
I might be in a minority on here, but I think the two best teams on each side of the draw are in the final. I also think it will be a fascinating game. The fact Spain will attack will suit England and visa versa. The Dutch were more expansive first half and allowed England to play and Mainoo and Foden particulary used that space well. after first hald and half time subs by Koeman they packed the midfield and relied inly on FB's to get forward. England in response went back to pass pass pass across back and midfield with little penetration until the subs (which I reckon were 10 mins late) came on.

Much the better team won. Pen (that was never one in real time and very debatable in freeze frame) aside they hit the post / had ball cleared off the line as well as other clear chances.

right i'm off to wash my mouth out :greengrin

Couldn't agree more :agree:

Lago
11-07-2024, 09:56 AM
:aok:
We’re so bad, the ref is corrupt, worst VAR decision ever. I love this thread 😀🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Can’t wait for Sunday when it will either be much the same as above or England were beaten by first decent team they played blah, blah, blah 😂

H18S NX
11-07-2024, 10:39 AM
I remember "66",every advert on tv you were reminded for months,every garage had world cup medals to collect,don't even mention World Cup Willie,arrgghh.

flash
11-07-2024, 10:47 AM
I remember "66",every advert on tv you were reminded for months,every garage had world cup medals to collect,don't even mention World Cup Willie,arrgghh.

World Cup Willie sounds painful.

GreenNWhiteArmy
11-07-2024, 10:49 AM
Will be softened if kane scores the winner on Sunday

England/Kane double for £100. Happy to forego that for a Spain victory, though

Victor
11-07-2024, 11:50 AM
World Cup Willie sounds painful.

[emoji38]

Bostonhibby
11-07-2024, 12:05 PM
I remember "66",every advert on tv you were reminded for months,every garage had world cup medals to collect,don't even mention World Cup Willie,arrgghh.Not as bad as it was then, you can get ointment for it now.

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He's here!
11-07-2024, 03:03 PM
Good thing might be we all get a public holiday when they win 🇬🇧 😄

Sounds like Starmer is up for that if they win.

Since452
11-07-2024, 03:22 PM
Sounds like Starmer is up for that if they win.

Come on Engerland :greengrin

JimBHibees
11-07-2024, 03:50 PM
Sounds like Starmer is up for that if they win.

Anything to curry favour

blackpoolhibs
11-07-2024, 04:42 PM
I remember "66",every advert on tv you were reminded for months,every garage had world cup medals to collect,don't even mention World Cup Willie,arrgghh.
Caught that at the 82 world cup in torromelinos. :wink:

ruthven_raiders
11-07-2024, 06:46 PM
Jacob Blaney playing for crusaders tonight on S4C, live on TV, 2-0 down against Caernarfon. Conference qualifiers..

Bridge hibs
11-07-2024, 07:21 PM
World Cup Willie

Thats what I call mines, once every ****ing 4 years it decides it wants to play !! 🤬

04Sauzee
11-07-2024, 07:38 PM
Ayr Utd 2-1 up against Killie, not sure if McCrorie was at fault for one of the goals.

Tambo
11-07-2024, 09:29 PM
Ayr Utd 2-1 up against Killie, not sure if McCrorie was at fault for one of the goals.

3-2 final score.

JimBHibees
12-07-2024, 06:39 AM
McCoist was unbearable last night.


Not only up England's arse but his commentary in general just consists of everything being over exaggerated and the cheeky chappy routine is beyond tedious.

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Thought he was a breathe of fresh air in World Cup however has been grating for ages now he is on much more regularly. Not sure he offers much more than enthusiasm and a bit of humour which to be fair is more than Murphy and Dixon do.

JimBHibees
12-07-2024, 06:41 AM
Surely that's only a problem if you're in London on the day of the parade?

And don’t watch tv 😄

JimBHibees
12-07-2024, 06:42 AM
Thats what I call mines, once every ****ing 4 years it decides it wants to play !! 🤬

😂

Donegal Hibby
12-07-2024, 12:20 PM
Ayr Utd 2-1 up against Killie, not sure if McCrorie was at fault for one of the goals.

Apparently he was at fault with the first , Mcinnes said he'd bounce back from it . Have a feeling that won't be his last mistake this season either.

HUTCHYHIBBY
12-07-2024, 05:35 PM
Slovakia W 0 Scotland W 0, pretty grim so far.

HUTCHYHIBBY
12-07-2024, 06:05 PM
Slovakia W 0 Scotland W 0, pretty grim so far.

0-1 46 minutes.

HUTCHYHIBBY
12-07-2024, 06:14 PM
Monsoon conditions now, match abandoned soon.

HUTCHYHIBBY
12-07-2024, 06:17 PM
Monsoon conditions now, match abandoned soon.

Play suspended.

HUTCHYHIBBY
12-07-2024, 06:57 PM
Restart at 2000.

HUTCHYHIBBY
12-07-2024, 07:14 PM
0-2

Donegal Hibby
13-07-2024, 11:20 AM
I just read that if the Spain v England game goes to extra time and Spain play Yamal they will get fined for breaking the law ! .

JimBHibees
13-07-2024, 01:02 PM
I just read that if the Spain v England game goes to extra time and Spain play Yamal they will get fined for breaking the law ! .

How? Sounds like an English media wind up

HH81
13-07-2024, 01:05 PM
How? Sounds like an English media wind up

It was an issue in previous games so will be true.

JimBHibees
13-07-2024, 01:11 PM
It was an issue in previous games so will be true.

What law are they breaking? He is a full time professional

oneone73
13-07-2024, 01:18 PM
What law are they breaking? He is a full time professional

He's under 18. Not allowed to be working past 11pm under German law. Kick off at 9pm.

GreenCastle
13-07-2024, 01:20 PM
I just read that if the Spain v England game goes to extra time and Spain play Yamal they will get fined for breaking the law ! .

Exceptions for athletes and he’s already played past 11pm in the tournament.

Worst case scenario Spain FA pay a 25k fine.

Smartie
13-07-2024, 01:28 PM
What law are they breaking? He is a full time professional

It’s a disgrace, and I demand England’s expulsion from the competition.

MWHIBBIES
13-07-2024, 02:08 PM
What law are they breaking? He is a full time professional

I think he just turned pro today actually. Its his 17th birthday.

Scorrie
13-07-2024, 02:09 PM
Pars 1-0 up v Spartans in League Cup

HUTCHYHIBBY
13-07-2024, 02:22 PM
He's under 18. Not allowed to be working past 11pm under German law. Kick off at 9pm.

I'm sure I read something at the start of the tournament about not causing excess noise on a Sunday in Germany, that's an interesting one! 🤭

04Sauzee
13-07-2024, 02:24 PM
Lewis Stevenson assist for the Raith goal.

cabbageandribs1875
13-07-2024, 02:25 PM
Dumbarton 1 East Kilbride 1
Bonnyrigg Rose 0 Dundee 3
Annan 1 ICT 0
Spartans 0 Dunfy 1
East Fife 2 Morton 0
Stranraer 0 Ross co 2
Stirling Albion 0 Raith Rovers 2

still Motherwell 0 Edin City 0

Scorrie
13-07-2024, 02:26 PM
That’s a hell of a journey for Ross County…

cabbageandribs1875
13-07-2024, 02:30 PM
Peterhead 0 Queen's park 4
Bonnyrigg 1 Dundee :7:
Partick Thistle 3 Montrose 2
Brechin 0 st johnstone 2
Motherwell 3 Edin City 0
Forfar 0 Livi 1
Stenhousemuir 4 Buckie 0
Falkirk 2 Dundee U 0
East Fife 3 Morton 0
Stirling Albion 0 Raith 3
Stranraer 1 Ross co 3

Ajax 1 Sevco 0
1-1 booooooooo
2-1 yaaaay

Callum_62
13-07-2024, 03:22 PM
Falkirk 1 up on Dundee utd

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Coco Bryce
13-07-2024, 03:38 PM
Dundee are flying.

Think they're gonna be decent this season.
Good manager.

BILLYHIBS
13-07-2024, 03:44 PM
Peterhead 0 v 4 Queens Park

LaMotta
13-07-2024, 03:45 PM
Falkirk 1 up on Dundee utd

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2-0 Falkirk now - very worrying start to the season for Utd, Falkirk had 5 key players out today.

Motherwell only putting 3 past Edinburgh City as well is surprising.

JimBHibees
13-07-2024, 03:54 PM
Peterhead 0 v 4 Queens Park

Queen’s Park will be a tough game. Davidson will have them organised

Scorrie
13-07-2024, 03:54 PM
Queens Park win 5-0

JimBHibees
13-07-2024, 03:55 PM
Peterhead 0 Queen's park 4
Bonnyrigg 1 Dundee :7:
Partick Thistle 3 Montrose 2
Brechin 0 st johnstone 2
Motherwell 3 Edin City 0
Forfar 0 Livi 1
Stenhousemuir 4 Buckie 0
Falkirk 2 Dundee U 0
East Fife 3 Morton 0
Stirling Albion 0 Raith 3
Stranraer 1 Ross co 3

Ajax 1 Sevco 0
1-1 booooooooo
2-1 yaaaay

Some result for East fife

Jim Herriot
13-07-2024, 03:58 PM
Ajax 2 Sevco 1 FT
Hearts 1 Leyton Orient 2 FT

HIBERNIAN-0762
13-07-2024, 03:59 PM
Hertz 😂

cabbageandribs1875
13-07-2024, 03:59 PM
Peterhead 0 Queens's park 5

Callum_62
13-07-2024, 04:01 PM
Peterhead 0 Queens's park 55 shots on target - 5 goals

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cabbageandribs1875
13-07-2024, 04:08 PM
5 shots on target - 5 goals

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5th was a OG on 90+2, but anyway...


game on Tuesday now looking a little bit more interesting

green day
13-07-2024, 04:16 PM
Hertz 😂

Wet for their parade, then beat by Orient.

Not all bad though, they won WW1 all by themselves.

gbhibby
13-07-2024, 04:18 PM
England 1966 World Cup final on C4 in colour.
Just a pity VAR and goaline technology wasn't around then.

we are hibs
13-07-2024, 04:23 PM
Wet for their parade, then beat by Orient.

Not all bad though, they won WW1 all by themselves.At least they got to sing a few renditions of hello hello during their march just like their cousins yesterday.

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Hiber-nation
13-07-2024, 04:34 PM
Ah we've missed Scottish refs...

green day
13-07-2024, 04:36 PM
Ah we've missed Scottish refs...

Yep, it was a nailed on penalty.

we are hibs
13-07-2024, 04:39 PM
Good goal tbf

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BILLYHIBS
13-07-2024, 04:42 PM
QOS 0 v 2 Aberdeen

cabbageandribs1875
13-07-2024, 04:43 PM
game set and match for the Dandy Dons

green day
13-07-2024, 04:43 PM
Harry Cochrane playing for QoS.

Looks crap.

cabbageandribs1875
13-07-2024, 04:53 PM
0-3

Liam978
13-07-2024, 04:58 PM
England 1966 World Cup final on C4 in colour.
Just a pity VAR and goaline technology wasn't around then.
Pity for some maybe, but dont diminish the fact that it was a first for British football, and our own Joseph Henry Baker was part of that squad

Scorrie
13-07-2024, 05:02 PM
Some result for East fife

Aye Dick Campbell’s bunnet will be at a jaunty angle the night!

oneone73
13-07-2024, 05:03 PM
Pity for some maybe, but dont diminish the fact that it was a first for British football, and our own Joseph Henry Baker was part of that squad

No he wasn't.

Corstorphine Hibby
13-07-2024, 05:12 PM
England 1966 World Cup final on C4 in colour.
Just a pity VAR and goaline technology wasn't around then.

The shifting of the venue from Goodison Park to Wembley for the Portugal semi final was more dodgy than the Russian linesman's call in that final.

Exuberance1875
13-07-2024, 05:13 PM
Clarkson for Aberdeen is a great player

JohnM1875
13-07-2024, 05:17 PM
Not watching the game but how are Aberdeen looking?

Since452
13-07-2024, 05:21 PM
Not being in Europe this season should see Hibs and Aberdeen compete much better in the league in the earlier stages. Will set both teams up to have a strong season I think.

ancient hibee
13-07-2024, 05:40 PM
No he wasn't.

Think he was in the final 40.

bod
13-07-2024, 05:46 PM
Think he was in the final 40.
A squad of 40 ?

ancient hibee
13-07-2024, 05:52 PM
A squad of 40 ?

They picked the 22 from 40 possibles although there was no official 40.

BILLYHIBS
14-07-2024, 05:23 AM
Guy on BBC News saying he just paid €1000 for his Spain v England match ticket and €2600 for his Hotel

C’mon Spain

Let’s do this

Viva Espana !

����

Spain after penalties

Hibrandenburg
14-07-2024, 06:36 AM
Guy on BBC News saying he just paid €1000 for his Spain v England match ticket and €2600 for his Hotel

C’mon Spain

Let’s do this

Viva Espana !

����

Spain after penalties

Want Spain to do this in 90 minutes. I want it to be at least 3-0 to Spain at halftime so I can soak up the 2nd half atmosphere in the Olympics Stadium.

He's here!
14-07-2024, 10:15 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/2048/cpsprodpb/f41c/live/b52b4420-408e-11ef-9e1c-3b4a473456a6.jpg
Jeez, this is embarrassing. Echoes of The Sun front page styles last century - and they weren't funny then either. Particularly ridiculous is that the stereotypes they level at English people can just as easily apply to Scots.

Can only guess that with the collapse in support for the SNP, their print media mouthpiece has seen an accompanying decline in sales and they're desperately trying to think of ideas to get people to buy the paper.

Joe6-2
14-07-2024, 10:23 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/2048/cpsprodpb/f41c/live/b52b4420-408e-11ef-9e1c-3b4a473456a6.jpg
Jeez, this is embarrassing. Echoes of The Sun front page styles last century - and they weren't funny then either. Particularly ridiculous is that the stereotypes they level at English people can just as easily apply to Scots.

Can only guess that with the collapse in support for the SNP, their print media mouthpiece has seen an accompanying decline in sales and they're desperately trying to think of ideas to get people to buy the paper.

And we call the English jingoistic

we are hibs
14-07-2024, 10:23 AM
All the best to Spain tonight. hope a few of these "likeable" characters are in tears come 10pm. Hopefully a strong ref too.



7 minutes for the England Dive tombola tonight

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Bostonhibby
14-07-2024, 10:25 AM
All the best to Spain tonight. hope a few of these "likeable" characters are in tears come 10pm. Hopefully a strong ref too.



7 minutes for the England Dive tombola tonight

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You think Kane or Saka will wait 7 minutes?

Shame as I do have a bit of time for Saka otherwise.

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ekhibee
14-07-2024, 10:28 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/2048/cpsprodpb/f41c/live/b52b4420-408e-11ef-9e1c-3b4a473456a6.jpg
Jeez, this is embarrassing. Echoes of The Sun front page styles last century - and they weren't funny then either. Particularly ridiculous is that the stereotypes they level at English people can just as easily apply to Scots.

Can only guess that with the collapse in support for the SNP, their print media mouthpiece has seen an accompanying decline in sales and they're desperately trying to think of ideas to get people to buy the paper.

That's fine, you want to cheer on England? No problem either.

He's here!
14-07-2024, 10:45 AM
And we call the English jingoistic

One of their better writers has disowned it:

https://x.com/cbrookmyre/status/1812024073980973415

'Boorish, offensive and embarrassing'. He's spot on.

Joe6-2
14-07-2024, 10:46 AM
One of their better writers has disowned it:

https://x.com/cbrookmyre/status/1812024073980973415

'Boorish, offensive and embarrassing'. He's spot on.

👍

MWHIBBIES
14-07-2024, 10:50 AM
You think Kane or Saka will wait 7 minutes?

Shame as I do have a bit of time for Saka otherwise.

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Which footballers at the top level don't dive?

Sadly they're all at it, pointless to hold against any individuals.

Kane barging into defenders who are jumping is far more dangerous and unsportsmanlike than diving. His trademark.

Trinity Hibee
14-07-2024, 10:55 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/2048/cpsprodpb/f41c/live/b52b4420-408e-11ef-9e1c-3b4a473456a6.jpg
Jeez, this is embarrassing. Echoes of The Sun front page styles last century - and they weren't funny then either. Particularly ridiculous is that the stereotypes they level at English people can just as easily apply to Scots.

Can only guess that with the collapse in support for the SNP, their print media mouthpiece has seen an accompanying decline in sales and they're desperately trying to think of ideas to get people to buy the paper.

What’s the issue with it? If anything it’s a bit of fun

Since90+2
14-07-2024, 10:55 AM
England at 12/5 to win seems a good price to me. 12/1 to win in extra time.

B.H.F.C
14-07-2024, 10:56 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/2048/cpsprodpb/f41c/live/b52b4420-408e-11ef-9e1c-3b4a473456a6.jpg
Jeez, this is embarrassing. Echoes of The Sun front page styles last century - and they weren't funny then either. Particularly ridiculous is that the stereotypes they level at English people can just as easily apply to Scots.

Can only guess that with the collapse in support for the SNP, their print media mouthpiece has seen an accompanying decline in sales and they're desperately trying to think of ideas to get people to buy the paper.

Here’s hoping they do save us from an England win though.

Come on Spain.

Since452
14-07-2024, 10:59 AM
For me there's been a feeling of inevitability that England would win something eventually. I hope they don't but i wouldn't lose any sleep if they did. I'm not as bothered about it as I once was.

Bostonhibby
14-07-2024, 11:03 AM
Which footballers at the top level don't dive?

Sadly they're all at it, pointless to hold against any individuals.

Kane barging into defenders who are jumping is far more dangerous and unsportsmanlike than diving. His trademark.You're not wrong.[emoji16]

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erin go bragh
14-07-2024, 11:45 AM
England at 12/5 to win seems a good price to me. 12/1 to win in extra time.

Spain at 6/4 is a steal

scm70nyd1973
14-07-2024, 12:41 PM
One of their better writers has disowned it:

https://x.com/cbrookmyre/status/1812024073980973415

'Boorish, offensive and embarrassing'. He's spot on.

It is really.

It’s the talk of the steamie down here in Spain where I live.

Taxi driver who took us home last night was showing it and said that loads of people couldn’t believe it but they did think it was funny.

KeithTheHibby
14-07-2024, 12:50 PM
For me there's been a feeling of inevitability that England would win something eventually. I hope they don't but i wouldn't lose any sleep if they did. I'm not as bothered about it as I once was.

Yeah that’s where I am at. Remember Hearts in the mid 90’s, they kept getting closer and closer to winning a trophy with a couple of cup final defeats culminating with them winning the Scottish in 1998.
England winning the Euros won’t be on the same level as it’s very easy to ignore the media and the hype by simply turning off / ignoring / unfollowing certain outlets, wasn’t quite the same when the pink ones won the cup as it was very close to home.
If there is any justice then Spain will win; they have been the best team to watch whereas England have been passive, lucky and very reliant on late changes in games.

Since90+2
14-07-2024, 12:50 PM
Spain at 6/4 is a steal

I think it's a genuine 5050 game. For England to be 12/5 and Spain 6/4 the value bet, to me anyway, is England.

Hope I'm totally wrong though.

Springbank
14-07-2024, 01:11 PM
I got 350/1 on rodri to score, foden to score and Spain to win it 3-2.
Paddy power

Broken Gnome
14-07-2024, 01:17 PM
Which footballers at the top level don't dive?

Sadly they're all at it, pointless to hold against any individuals.

Kane barging into defenders who are jumping is far more dangerous and unsportsmanlike than diving. His trademark.

Happens every Champions League night to some extent, but every two years we get English players routinely put on a holier-than-thou pedestal where those parts of their game are ignored. Other nationalities are frequently highlighted in far more negative lights where it's almost seen as part of non-English anti-football tradition.

In the broadcasting scenario we're in, hard not to find it perfectly natural to be more peeved at the English behaviour.

SteveHFC
14-07-2024, 01:19 PM
I got 350/1 on rodri to score, foden to score and Spain to win it 3-2.
Paddy power

Yamal to score anytime and Walker to get booked is 16/1 on sky bet.

babahibs
14-07-2024, 01:33 PM
Both teams to score looks nailed on to me, think the game will be a cracker.

hibsbollah
14-07-2024, 01:43 PM
Clarkson for Aberdeen is a great player

He had a great first season for them, really hard to get the ball off, dribbler and ser piece taker as well iirc. Clearly learnt good habits at Liverpool. Last season after he signed permanently he was a bit of a disappointment according to aberdeen fans, only 3 goals but he didnt get much help from the team overall. Usually the smallest player on the pitch. He was excellent against us at ER.

Hibrandenburg
14-07-2024, 01:43 PM
Both teams to score looks nailed on to me, think the game will be a cracker.

England will set up defensively but Spain will still score meaning England will open up like they've done in the last couple of games but this time they'll get punished because they're finally playing a good side.

Since90+2
14-07-2024, 01:58 PM
England will set up defensively but Spain will still score meaning England will open up like they've done in the last couple of games but this time they'll get punished because they're finally playing a good side.

I don't think England will set up defensively. They'll have Kane, Saka, Foden and Bellingham on the pitch.

hibsbollah
14-07-2024, 02:10 PM
I don't think England will set up defensively. They'll have Kane, Saka, Foden and Bellingham on the pitch.

Southgate likes a defensive set up, the other 6 outfield players have traditional roles and if Foden and Saka are asked to prioritize containing breaks from wide positions then yeah, thats a defensive setup regardless of the individual players at his disposal.

Spain are a team with a great system and great individuals. Southgate has won against his critics by making winning subs, but not sure he has a system that matches Spains.

HUTCHYHIBBY
14-07-2024, 02:18 PM
Spain at 6/4 is a steal

Seems a very reasonable price to me. 🤞

Since452
14-07-2024, 02:21 PM
Yeah that’s where I am at. Remember Hearts in the mid 90’s, they kept getting closer and closer to winning a trophy with a couple of cup final defeats culminating with them winning the Scottish in 1998.
England winning the Euros won’t be on the same level as it’s very easy to ignore the media and the hype by simply turning off / ignoring / unfollowing certain outlets, wasn’t quite the same when the pink ones won the cup as it was very close to home.
If there is any justice then Spain will win; they have been the best team to watch whereas England have been passive, lucky and very reliant on late changes in games.

Yeah 98 was horrific. I was gutted.

He's here!
14-07-2024, 02:23 PM
Yeah 98 was horrific. I was gutted.

Dreadful. I'd never known Hearts to win anything in my lifetime before that. England winning tonight isn't even an issue compared to that.

Since90+2
14-07-2024, 02:41 PM
Southgate likes a defensive set up, the other 6 outfield players have traditional roles and if Foden and Saka are asked to prioritize containing breaks from wide positions then yeah, thats a defensive setup regardless of the individual players at his disposal.

Spain are a team with a great system and great individuals. Southgate has won against his critics by making winning subs, but not sure he has a system that matches Spains.

Foden and Saka are not asked to prioritise defensively than than going forward.

What England do have is two sitting midfielders who play deep and very competent full backs in one on one situations which makes them solid defensively. Saka and Foden play high and wide. Or in Foden's case he was asked to play wide up to the Holland game where he was given a free role.

hibsbollah
14-07-2024, 02:46 PM
Foden and Saka are not asked to prioritise defensively than than going forward.

What England do have is two sitting midfielders who play deep and very competent full backs in one on one situations which makes them solid defensively. Saka and Foden play high and wide. Or in Foden's case he was asked to play wide up to the Holland game where he was given a free role.

…they may be asked to do exactly that to contain the threat from the Spanish wingers and also Dani Olmo, which is hibrandenbergs point, that’s certainly what id do if I was trying to defend it. Saka has actually been excellent defensively this tournament. We’ll have to wait and see.

hibsbollah
14-07-2024, 03:17 PM
Hopefully the Spanish team are channeling their inner Carlos Alcarez.

JohnM1875
14-07-2024, 03:17 PM
Hopefully the Spanish team are channeling their inner Carlos Alcarez.

Really hope so! Absolutely destroyed Djokovic

BILLYHIBS
14-07-2024, 03:22 PM
Looks like Alcaraz trying to get this over and done with so he can get home to watch the fitba

HUTCHYHIBBY
14-07-2024, 03:24 PM
Looks like Alcaraz trying to get this over and done with so he can get home to watch the fitba

Home to Spain? 😀

marinello59
14-07-2024, 03:49 PM
I think we might be in for a decent final but that will require an early English goal to get it going. Spain should get it over the line but right now I won’t be calling it. :greengrin

Pretty Boy
14-07-2024, 03:56 PM
Ended up with a split in our house.

Wife is English so her loyalties were never in doubt. Daughter was supporting Spain but has now had a change of heart and wants to support England like Mum. The boy is too young to choose so he's running about in a Spain top with Iniesta on the back and is on my team. England v Spain, boys v girls😅

hibsbollah
14-07-2024, 04:04 PM
Spanish international and club sides have been in 22 finals this century. Their record in these finals? Won 22- Lost 0.

babahibs
14-07-2024, 04:11 PM
Spanish international and club sides have been in 22 finals this century. Their record in these finals? Won 22- Lost 0.

What a stat that is, might put the house on Spain now :greengrin

marinello59
14-07-2024, 04:14 PM
What a stat that is, might put the house on Spain now :greengrin

Or by the law of averages they are due to lose this one. :greengrin

JohnM1875
14-07-2024, 04:17 PM
Or by the law of averages they are due to lose this one. :greengrin

To add balance, apparently England have played something like seven games in and never lost a game in Berlin. So, come on Spain!!!

marinello59
14-07-2024, 04:18 PM
To add balance, apparently England have played something like seven games in and never lost a game in Berlin. So, come on Spain!!!

Superb. :thumbsup:

scm70nyd1973
14-07-2024, 04:18 PM
Any other Hibbys over here in Spain going out this evening to hopefully see Rodri & Co prevail ?

babahibs
14-07-2024, 04:20 PM
England will set up defensively but Spain will still score meaning England will open up like they've done in the last couple of games but this time they'll get punished because they're finally playing a good side.

I think the way Spain play suits England a little bit, England struggle against teams who sit in and condense the space and end up endlessly passing about the back not really going anywhere.
Spain don't play like that, they're expansive and attacking, which opens up space for Englands attacking players, I think this has the potential to be a great game and could come down to individual brilliance, which both teams have in abundance.
So, a 0-0 borefest coming up.

GreenCastle
14-07-2024, 04:22 PM
Think Spain will play better but England will win.

essexhibee
14-07-2024, 05:00 PM
Can’t see anything other than an England win. Shame it’s not KO now so could just get it over with already.

MWHIBBIES
14-07-2024, 05:08 PM
Spanish international and club sides have been in 22 finals this century. Their record in these finals? Won 22- Lost 0.

Not really true. They've never lost against non-spanish sides. Atletico have lost 2 CL finals, both to Real. Athletic Bilbao have lost a Europa league final to Atletico.

Seekyit
14-07-2024, 05:12 PM
Not really true. They've never lost against non-spanish sides. Atletico have lost 2 CL finals, both to Real. Athletic Bilbao have lost a Europa league final to Atletico.

Liverpool Alaves 2001. Same year Bayern beat Valencia, albeit on pens.

TrinityHFC
14-07-2024, 05:13 PM
One of their better writers has disowned it:

https://x.com/cbrookmyre/status/1812024073980973415

'Boorish, offensive and embarrassing'. He's spot on.

Looked like an attempt at humour to me.

hibsbollah
14-07-2024, 05:33 PM
Not really true. They've never lost against non-spanish sides. Atletico have lost 2 CL finals, both to Real. Athletic Bilbao have lost a Europa league final to Atletico.

Well ye kent whit ah meant likesay

MWHIBBIES
14-07-2024, 05:38 PM
Liverpool Alaves 2001. Same year Bayern beat Valencia, albeit on pens.

Oh yep, well done. Stat busted.

ekhibee
14-07-2024, 05:40 PM
England have never won the Euros, got Spain to win 3-1.

Seekyit
14-07-2024, 05:46 PM
Oh yep, well done. Stat busted.

I couldnae resist. Anyway, Mon Spain.

Since90+2
14-07-2024, 05:47 PM
England have never won a tournament outside England.

Can spin stats anyway you like. When you have two teams at almost the same level will come down to the same combination of individual brilliance/ mistakes and luck.

HUTCHYHIBBY
14-07-2024, 05:56 PM
England have never won a tournament outside England.

Can spin stats anyway you like. When you have two teams at almost the same level will come down to the same combination of individual brilliance/ mistakes and luck.

I don't think that they are at the same level, I think Spain will pass them into the ground. 🤞

hibsbollah
14-07-2024, 06:05 PM
Liverpool Alaves 2001. Same year Bayern beat Valencia, albeit on pens.

OK, but over 90 mins and obviously discounting when Spanish teams play each other, then….

:greengrin

ancient hibee
14-07-2024, 06:06 PM
If it goes to form perhaps Shaw will wish he was still injured. Unless he can get in a hard "tackle" of course.

Broken Gnome
14-07-2024, 06:09 PM
Overly pessimistic - Spain were quite open against England, and that'll play into the hands of what they showed in the first half against Netherlands. Stubborn England will also turn up, and a Spanish side having an off night won't be able to break them down.

Narrow England win. Praying otherwise.

gbhibby
14-07-2024, 06:13 PM
Heard a stat on 5 live that Rodri has only been on the loosing side once for Spain.

marinello59
14-07-2024, 06:16 PM
BBC or ITV ?
Gone ITV for Keane and Neville but Wrighty is maybe not a price worth paying.

Joe6-2
14-07-2024, 06:18 PM
BBC or ITV ?
Gone ITV for Keane and Neville but Wrighty is maybe not a price worth paying.

Talk about a rock and a hard place

Sylar
14-07-2024, 06:20 PM
BBC or ITV ?
Gone ITV for Keane and Neville but Wrighty is maybe not a price worth paying.

Having that same debate...but I cannot, in any good conscience, opt for a platform that features Alan bloody Shearer...

JohnM1875
14-07-2024, 06:22 PM
BBC or ITV ?
Gone ITV for Keane and Neville but Wrighty is maybe not a price worth paying.

If McCoist is on STV than it'll absolutely be BBC for me, if not then STV it is.

babahibs
14-07-2024, 06:36 PM
BBC for me me, can't stand McCoist and Ian Wright makes me want to put my foot through the telly, absolute erse.

Onion
14-07-2024, 06:37 PM
England have never won a tournament outside England.

Can spin stats anyway you like. When you have two teams at almost the same level will come down to the same combination of individual brilliance/ mistakes and luck.

Or who wants it most ?

Spain already won Euros and WC in last 15 years. England have been close and might just want it more this time, and will see them over the line.

Since90+2
14-07-2024, 06:39 PM
I don't think that they are at the same level, I think Spain will pass them into the ground. 🤞

England have done better than Spain the last 2 major tournaments. They have phenomenal players throughout the team. If they played each other 10 times I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up even.

Doesn't mean Spain can't or won't win, but this is a game of teams about as evenly matched as you can get.

Since90+2
14-07-2024, 06:40 PM
Or who wants it most ?

Spain already won Euros and WC in last 15 years. England have been close and might just want it more this time, and will see them over the line.

I can't imagine that comes into play. Every single player on that pitch will give everything to win.

Spain might have won those tournaments but I don't think any player apart from maybe Carvajal and Neves were even involved.

Jakhog1
14-07-2024, 06:40 PM
If McCoist is on STV than it'll absolutely be BBC for me, if not then STV it is.

If England are getting pumped I will be switching over to watch Ian Wright's Pus, also what's with all the England tunes inside the stadium

Onion
14-07-2024, 06:46 PM
BBC for me me, can't stand McCoist and Ian Wright makes me want to put my foot through the telly, absolute erse.

BBC lot need tested, absolutely hyper at the moment. 8 days ago, they detested Gareth for his poor management, beer cans chucked at him. Now he's a "special man" to be knighted.

The crash will be something else.

HarpOnHibee
14-07-2024, 06:47 PM
They're going to do it. Everything has gone their way in this tournament and I don't see it changing tonight, even if Spain are 100 times better than them.

babahibs
14-07-2024, 06:48 PM
BBC lot need tested, absolutely hyper at the moment. 8 days ago, they detested Gareth for his poor management, beer cans chucked at him. Now he's a "special man" to be knighted.

The crash will be something else.

Peruvian marching powder I reckon, They've definitely had a few drinks

heretoday
14-07-2024, 06:49 PM
I'm looking forward to Southgate getting beer tumblers chucked at him again.

SteveHFC
14-07-2024, 06:54 PM
Really hope we see some England tears later.

pollution
14-07-2024, 06:57 PM
No words to Spanish anthem

Since452
14-07-2024, 06:57 PM
Should I put this pish on or not? Maybe watch it and make a call after first goal

Up-the-slope
14-07-2024, 06:57 PM
have just switched on the Beeb... could not bear the build up. Tee-off at Scottish open yesterday had a sheet with Spain one side / England the other with players asked if they wanted to mark one side or other... then Cheered or Booed depending on choice :greengrin ( a fair few declined :wink:)

Corstorphine Hibby
14-07-2024, 06:58 PM
Channel 4 have decided to show The Titanic.

Billy Whizz
14-07-2024, 06:59 PM
Macintyre wins the Scottish Open

Callum_62
14-07-2024, 07:00 PM
Spain are definitely the best side here but I think England will have there chances

How England cope with Spains genuine world class movement will be interesting

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Donegal Hibby
14-07-2024, 07:01 PM
Really hope we see some England tears later.

🙏

e2los
14-07-2024, 07:03 PM
Should I put this pish on or not? Maybe watch it and make a call after first goal

I'm not, been burnt too much by Slovakia, the Swiss and Holland.

Pretty Boy
14-07-2024, 07:03 PM
It's about as close to a 50/50 game as you can get. I think Spain are marginally the better side but England aren't without match winners and have a couple of potential game changers on the bench.

I want Spain to win but if England do it my life isn't going to change any, for the better or for the worse. Some folk I have encountered today are acting like it's a life and death affair.

Up-the-slope
14-07-2024, 07:05 PM
im going 2-2 and then ET

marinello59
14-07-2024, 07:06 PM
Initial thoughts. This young Spanish side are playing with the same lack of inhibition that Mowbrays golden generation Hibs team did. OK slightly different level but not that ridiculous a comparison. :greengrin

Callum_62
14-07-2024, 07:09 PM
England not settled at all - need to get a few passes together

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Donegal Hibby
14-07-2024, 07:10 PM
Can't believe the German fans are still booing Cucurella

Pretty Boy
14-07-2024, 07:10 PM
Spain play the modern game how I think it's meant to be played. Loads of passing but it's all with a bit of purpose, loads of movement, trying to move the opposition and get them to lose their discipline. It's not just pass, pass, pass to nowhere with an insistence 'but we are keeping possession'.

hibsbollah
14-07-2024, 07:12 PM
Oft that looked sore on walkers knee

hibsbollah
14-07-2024, 07:14 PM
Spain play the modern game how I think it's meant to be played. Loads of passing but it's all with a bit of purpose, loads of movement, trying to move the opposition and get them to lose their discipline. It's not just pass, pass, pass to nowhere with an insistence 'but we are keeping possession'.

Their style has changed since tiki taka, wingers encouraged to run at people. I like the development.

Up-the-slope
14-07-2024, 07:16 PM
Its a shame this stadium has the final (I know reasons why) as its probably the poorest of all the magnificent ones used in this tournament.

Its like a rich Mans Hampden. Terrible atmosphere - not helped by Corporates / too many Germans who bought hoping they would be there

Callum_62
14-07-2024, 07:17 PM
So far England have done a great job at imitating ross county for style of play

They have too many good technical players to just hoof it

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B.H.F.C
14-07-2024, 07:18 PM
England settled a bit now and look dangerous when they do go forward.

babahibs
14-07-2024, 07:18 PM
Can't believe the German fans are still booing Cucurella

It's pretty pathetic

pollution
14-07-2024, 07:23 PM
Quite dull so far, no space

Onceinawhile
14-07-2024, 07:23 PM
Williams with the outside of the right foot is such a nonsense. Just use your left ya dafty.

we are hibs
14-07-2024, 07:24 PM
Wasn't even a foul. Shearer is a moron

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Pretty Boy
14-07-2024, 07:24 PM
For all the hype around Foden and Bellingham I think Saka has been close to England's best player in this tournament.

Really solid defensively and looks their best outball going forward. He looks the most likely to make something happen for them tonight thus far.

J-C
14-07-2024, 07:24 PM
So far Foden has been stinking, given the ball away cheaply a good few times now.

hibsbollah
14-07-2024, 07:26 PM
Shearer has broken me. Its ITV now.

Aldo
14-07-2024, 07:26 PM
Kane moaning to the ref he’s not had a touch then he’s booked after losing control of his first touch.

jeffers
14-07-2024, 07:26 PM
That’s a red for Kane. If it had been on him the commentators would have been screaming for it.

EdinMike
14-07-2024, 07:26 PM
Kane to hopefully get another yellow, probably for diving !

HarpOnHibee
14-07-2024, 07:26 PM
Wasn't even a foul. Shearer is a moron

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Yep, clear dive and has the cheek to say it should have been a yellow.

Callum_62
14-07-2024, 07:26 PM
Pretty nasty tackle by Kane there

"Tapped his ankle" apparently

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hibsbollah
14-07-2024, 07:27 PM
For all the hype around Foden and Bellingham I think Saka has been close to England's best player in this tournament.

Really solid defensively and looks their best outball going forward. He looks the most likely to make something happen for them tonight thus far.

Definitely. He’d been in my team of the tournament, and youre right about his defending. Never gets mentioned much.

DaveF
14-07-2024, 07:27 PM
That’s a red for Kane. If it had been on him the commentators would have been screaming for it.

Agree. Studs up, can't understand why that wasn't sent for review given some of the other stuff that has been.

J-C
14-07-2024, 07:27 PM
Not for the 1st time this tournament has Kane lunged in with a dodgy challenge.

Iain G
14-07-2024, 07:27 PM
England are not only playing the eleven men of Spain, it seems that they are also having to fight against gravity as it keeps trying to pull them to the ground.

Up-the-slope
14-07-2024, 07:29 PM
Shearer has broken me. Its ITV now.

You wont last long with McCoist :greengrin

Up-the-slope
14-07-2024, 07:30 PM
Kane's first touch has been Rank

marinello59
14-07-2024, 07:30 PM
For all the hype around Foden and Bellingham I think Saka has been close to England's best player in this tournament.

Really solid defensively and looks their best outball going forward. He looks the most likely to make something happen for them tonight thus far.

Saka has been a joy to watch.

we are hibs
14-07-2024, 07:31 PM
Blatant handball from rice

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JohnM1875
14-07-2024, 07:31 PM
Saka has been a joy to watch.

He's just a really good footballer. Just hope he's on the losing side tonight.

NC1875
14-07-2024, 07:31 PM
Blatant handball from rice

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And Olmo gets booked 🙈 the decisions they’ve got in this tournament are unbelievable

marinello59
14-07-2024, 07:31 PM
Agree. Studs up, can't understand why that wasn't sent for review given some of the other stuff that has been.

You could argue the same with Olmo.
You won’t want to miss Kane getting his runners up medal. :greengrin

JohnM1875
14-07-2024, 07:32 PM
And Olmo gets booked 🙈 the decisions they’ve got in this tournament are unbelievable

Thought the same until the replay. Clear yellow

Callum_62
14-07-2024, 07:33 PM
Can't complain about olmos yellow

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babahibs
14-07-2024, 07:33 PM
Shearer has broken me. Its ITV now.

Unbearable, I've turned the sound off.

overdrive
14-07-2024, 07:34 PM
I have a very bad feeling about this

we are hibs
14-07-2024, 07:35 PM
That's the other end there's a VAR check

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Callum_62
14-07-2024, 07:35 PM
I've no what what is and is not a penalty anymore

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Joe6-2
14-07-2024, 07:36 PM
Unbearable, I've turned the sound off.

Been off since ko