Summer 2020-21 transfer thread

[Robbo6-2]

Why Porteous over Hanlon? More potential I guess?

That is probably the best option we have for a midfield but Boyle as a striker is no beuno, does not work. Far too easily marked out the game. Also no width to cross for Doidge.

Diodge scored a hatrick when we played this vs St Johnstone in Eddie May match.

Incidentally Hallberg and Newell had there best games in Hibs jersey that day.

I do agree regarding Boyle tho, hes much better coming from deep. Use him at right of diamond and Gullan up top.

If we can bring in Gogic or similar plus another striker i think we will be ok imo

[scoopyboy]

Any news on the players agreeing to the cut in wages

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Players not saying much, from what I gather some aren't in favour at all with others a bit more accommodating.

I think I'm right in saying the Zoom session on Monday night was a generalisation, the players will be getting dealt with individually I would imagine with different deals being offered.

[Heisenberg]

Could cause a bit of a split in the dressing room if some take cuts and some don’t. Difficult to manage that situation.

[scoopyboy]

Could cause a bit of a split in the dressing room if some take cuts and some don’t. Difficult to manage that situation.

I don't think they will tell each other what has happened, pretty sure it will be different deals rather than a standard percentage across the boards.

They never talk openly about their contracts and always keep their cards close to their chests.

[Tambo]

Good piece in the EEN this morning with John Baird saying Gullan is a better prospect than Holt and Walker, I hope he continues where he left off last season as I thought he was starting to kick on.

[PatHead]

Has this been confirmed Pathead

Sorry Billy not been on the thread since yesterday. I thought Type 1 diabetics were high risk. I would expect him to be not having physical contact due to the risks involved. Will be delighted to be proved wrong though.

[B.H.F.C]

Good piece in the EEN this morning with John Baird saying Gullan is a better prospect than Holt and Walker, I hope he continues where he left off last season as I thought he was starting to kick on.

Such a big opportunity for Gullan, he’s got the attributes, to do well.

It’s in his hands, he needs to come back flying because there will be opportunities there to play.

[B.H.F.C]

Sorry Billy not been on the thread since yesterday. I thought Type 1 diabetics were high risk. I would expect him to be not having physical contact due to the risks involved. Will be delighted to be proved wrong though.

Once the testing is in place surely that mitigates the risk and he’ll be able to do the same as everyone else?

[Brightside]

Such a big opportunity for Gullan, he’s got the attributes, to do well.

It’s in his hands, he needs to come back flying because there will be opportunities there to play.

I think the lad is going to be top class. Plenty confidence. Physical. I can see him getting the majority of games if he starts well. People are wanting 300k spent on Nesbit - no need with Gullan. I’d rather we went for a wide player.

[7062]

Once the testing is in place surely that mitigates the risk and he’ll be able to do the same as everyone else?

Missed the start of the chat on this, but my wife is type 1 diabetic. They took diabetes off the list of conditions that you need to shield for ages ago. We’re not really sure why when you see some of the stats.

[04Sauzee]

I think the lad is going to be top class. Plenty confidence. Physical. I can see him getting the majority of games if he starts well. People are wanting 300k spent on Nesbit - no need with Gullan. I’d rather we went for a wide player.

Nice bit on him here from Baird who played alongsind him last season at Raith

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-youngster-jamie-gullan-hailed-better-prospect-hearts-duo-jason-holt-and-jamie-walker-2890142

[hibsbollah]

With current squad i believe 4 4 2 diamond is our best formation.

Rocky
Rb Mcginn
Lb lewy
Cb porto
Cb jackson

Base of Diamond Hallberg
Left of diamond Newell
Right of Diamond Mallan
Tip Allan

diodger and Boyle up top

Weren’t we seeing Newells best performances in the centre? And he was our most influential player when he was playing there?

[HendoDelivered]

I think the lad is going to be top class. Plenty confidence. Physical. I can see him getting the majority of games if he starts well. People are wanting 300k spent on Nesbit - no need with Gullan. I’d rather we went for a wide player.

Agreed. Going to get a good chance this season, and with thr games being behind closed doors, no pressure from crowds as well. I think/hope he is going to do well for us.

[Alex Trager]

I think your underrating Newell defensively, the games he played at LWB and as a deeper centre mid since Ross came in he showed he could get stuck in and win balls in midfield.

He's by no means a ball winner or a defensive midfielder but is much better than Allan or Mallan defensively imo.

I’d agree with that assessment. Much better ball winner than they two. As you say, that’s not to say he’s a ball winning midfielder.

I reckon he could work in a three with allan or mallan and a gogic type

[Heisenberg]

Would £1m be enough for Boyle?

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5724086/hibs-martin-boyle-stoke-championship-1-million/

[B.H.F.C]

Would £1m be enough for Boyle?

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5724086/hibs-martin-boyle-stoke-championship-1-million/

In the current circumstances I think we would bite your hand off for a million.

Losing Boyle would be horrendous from a football perspective.

[Vault Boy]

Would £1m be enough for Boyle?

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5724086/hibs-martin-boyle-stoke-championship-1-million/

Unfortunately the combination of our situation post pandemic and his contractual status means that this would probably be enough.

If he had two years on his deal and we were in a less difficult financial environment, I'd have been hoping for bids to start at double that.

[04Sauzee]

Would £1m be enough for Boyle?

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5724086/hibs-martin-boyle-stoke-championship-1-million/

Can sign a pre-contract for someone in January, I'd say 1m is probably about right

[HendoDelivered]

Would £1m be enough for Boyle?

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5724086/hibs-martin-boyle-stoke-championship-1-million/


Don’t want to lose him but don’t think we are in a position to turn that kind of money down.

[Iggy Pope]

I think the lad is going to be top class. Plenty confidence. Physical. I can see him getting the majority of games if he starts well. People are wanting 300k spent on Nesbit - no need with Gullan. I’d rather we went for a wide player.

Agreed. Maybe even two.

[Since452]

Would £1m be enough for Boyle?

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5724086/hibs-martin-boyle-stoke-championship-1-million/

Bite their hand off

[J-C]

We signed him for nowt and he's gave us 5 very good years, we can't begrudge him a move and a chance to quadruple his wages, he's been a good servant to the club.

[Souter96Mac]

Would probably take the 1 mill and sell on clause.

[bingo70]

Bite their hand off

Eh?

I can see why would reluctantly agree to a deal like that but bite their hand off? That’s crazy talk for me

[Since452]

Eh?

I can see why would reluctantly agree to a deal like that but bite their hand off? That’s crazy talk for me

One million would be an absolute godsend right now

[Iggy Pope]

Eh?

I can see why would reluctantly agree to a deal like that but bite their hand off? That’s crazy talk for me

Me too. A bit disparaging.

[jeffers]

One million would be an absolute godsend right now

Yes, let’s sell one of our best players. So long as Ron Gordon’s investment is protected.

[truehibernian]

I think Celtic will make a bid.

[Vault Boy]

Yes, let’s sell one of our best players. So long as Ron Gordon’s investment is protected.

What club in Scotland doesn't sell their best players? I agree that 'biting their hand off' isn't the attitude I'd have either, but of course we're open to selling our players, especially in this climate. It's in all of our interests that Ron's investment is protected, given it's our club. That's not a bad thing.

[hibsquaker]

Me too. A bit disparaging.

Just remember the beginning of the season when injured. He's difficult to replace for a club like hibs, if not almost impossible. Love the squirrel. 1 million is only good if you can replace him adequately. Football is about excitement and Boyle gives you that, regardless of whether we lose him for nothing at the end of his contract.

[jeffers]

What club in Scotland doesn't sell their best players? I agree that 'biting their hand off' isn't the attitude I'd have either, but of course we're open to selling our players, especially in this climate. It's in all of our interests that Ron's investment is protected, given it's our club. That's not a bad thing.

First sentence is sadly true, the biting their hand off bit I didn’t agree with either.

I have my views on Ron Gordon, but this thread probably isn’t the one to post them.

[jacomo]

We signed him for nowt and he's gave us 5 very good years, we can't begrudge him a move and a chance to quadruple his wages, he's been a good servant to the club.


All that is true but I’d be gutted if he left.

[penihibs]

Just remember the beginning of the season when injured. He's difficult to replace for a club like hibs, if not almost impossible. Love the squirrel. 1 million is only good if you can replace him adequately. Football is about excitement and Boyle gives you that, regardless of whether we lose him for nothing at the end of his contract.

He owes as nothing he's been a great servant,£1 million great business for us and makes him set for life.
Much as I'll miss him good luck to him 🇳🇬💚

[B.H.F.C]

One million would be an absolute godsend right now

That one million isn’t going to be the difference between us getting through this or not.

We still need to put a team on the pitch and he has a huge value for us in that sense. If we sell him it needs to be a bloody good deal.

I have reluctantly came round to the idea that we’ll likely sell him but we’re not at the point where we simply need to accept a bid for him.

[Vault Boy]

First sentence is sadly true, the biting their hand off bit I didn’t agree with either.

I have my views on Ron Gordon, but this thread probably isn’t the one to post them.

:aok:

[Stuart93]

I take it people are forgetting we need to put a team on the pitch good enough to compete?

[B.H.F.C]

I take it people are forgetting we need to put a team on the pitch good enough to compete?

Correct. Keeping someone like Boyle could actually generate you more than you make from a fee.

If Stoke want to pay him 10k a week and he wants to go (which he would) you’ve got a problem though.

[we are hibs]

I understand our situation but i have real concerns with the lack of pace in the side as it is without taking boyle out of the equation.

[Stuart93]

Correct. Keeping someone like Boyle could actually generate you more than you make from a fee.

If Stoke want to pay him 10k a week and he wants to go (which he would) you’ve got a problem though.

That’s fair enough if he wants to go but biting their hand off? Na.

Getting rid of good players and not replacing them or trying to replace them with **** could do more damage than it’s worth.

[jeffers]

I take it people are forgetting we need to put a team on the pitch good enough to compete?

I know there has been a few posters confident we will sign players, but I can’t get my head round wage cuts, redundancies but still bringing in new players even if they clearly are required.

[Bobby's Cinema]

We surely can’t sell him at that price, for me our best and most exiting player.

A real tell of our ambitions for the season how this one pans out.

[Iggy Pope]

Just remember the beginning of the season when injured. He's difficult to replace for a club like hibs, if not almost impossible. Love the squirrel. 1 million is only good if you can replace him adequately. Football is about excitement and Boyle gives you that, regardless of whether we lose him for nothing at the end of his contract.

I agree, not sure you read me right.
I remember us getting a fee for Darren Jackson. We maybe ‘bit their hand off’. End of that season we were down and it nearly bust us getting back.

[Stuart93]

I know there has been a few posters confident we will sign players, but I can’t get my head round wage cuts, redundancies but still bringing in new players even if they clearly are required.

I don’t see what else we have meant to do?

We finished 6th last season, mediocre ***** season. Take away our best players where does that leave us?

Performing even worse next season leaves us in a worse position. It’s a joke it’s even came to this for a club our size in my opinion.

[B.H.F.C]

That’s fair enough if he wants to go but biting their hand off? Na.

Getting rid of good players and not replacing them or trying to replace them with **** could do more damage than it’s worth.

Absolutely should not be biting anyone’s hand off, not suggesting that.

The problem we have is that the Martin Boyle we have now isn’t the Martin Boyle we bought. It took him time to get to this level. Squad will be tight this year and we don’t have time to wait on people developing. We need players (relative to our level) who can come in and perform. Getting someone who can come in and perform like Boyle...... I just can’t see it.

[500miles]

Boyle has had long term injuries and is approaching an age where he's going to lose his explosiveness. We should take £1m if that's the deal on the table.

[B.H.F.C]

I know there has been a few posters confident we will sign players, but I can’t get my head round wage cuts, redundancies but still bringing in new players even if they clearly are required.

You can sign players whilst still cutting costs. Still need to put a team on the pitch. Sheep talking about cuts but about to sign Hayes.

Every team in the league is currently has a lower wage bill than a couple of months ago. Everybody will make signings and still have a smaller squad and wage bill than last year.

[jeffers]

I don’t see what else we have meant to do?

We finished 6th last season, mediocre ***** season. Take away our best players where does that leave us?

Performing even worse next season leaves us in a worse position. It’s a joke it’s even came to this for a club our size in my opinion.

Totally agree, bar a couple of games I really didn’t enjoy last season. Tbh I expected MB to leave this summer, before this pandemic I thought we’d at least use any transfer fee to bring in replacements. Now I’m not so sure.

I suppose we we need to wait and see what other teams do, but my expectations for this coming season are not high.

[jeffers]

You can sign players whilst still cutting costs. Still need to put a team on the pitch. Sheep talking about cuts but about to sign Hayes.

Every team in the league is currently has a lower wage bill than a couple of months ago. Everybody will make signings and still have a smaller squad and wage bill than last year.

I hope so, just need to see what happens.

[King Cosell]

If we go a million for Boyle, spent around 330k for Nisbet and brought in Gogic and Mickel Miller for free, it wouldn't be too bad. Gutted to see Boyler go, but it's inevitable.

[HendoDelivered]

If we go a million for Boyle, spent around 330k for Nisbet and brought in Gogic and Mickel Miller for free, it wouldn't be too bad. Gutted to see Boyler go, but it's inevitable.

I’d rather we spent money on a replacement for Boyle tbh.

[badabing67]

If we go a million for Boyle, spent around 330k for Nisbet and brought in Gogic and Mickel Miller for free, it wouldn't be too bad. Gutted to see Boyler go, but it's inevitable.

Think we will get more than £1M for Boyler, Huddersfield are also interested think Celtic could be too. Bare in mind Stoke can still go down so this might depend on Stoke staying up. This puts the £150K bid for Flo in perspective though.

[Scott Allan Key]

Sure, thats fair but do the others improve it? Newall for Mallan probably does. Otherwise, dunno.Newell Allan Boyle plus DMF who can not only protect defence and win ball but can carry it and pass it. Not easy to find such a player.

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[scotiaf]

I would have said no way before the pandemic, however unless he signs a new contract 1.5 million and it would be a good deal for us for Boyle. If we could invest 750k in the team and the other half in the bank to help with costs.

[J-C]

All that is true but I’d be gutted if he left.


Me too, I think he's a vital player for us and may be as hard as McGinn to replace, very quick wingers who chip in with a good few goals are hard to come by, plus he's very well liked in the dressing room.

[18Craig75]

Is Lawless that left Livingston fast?

[chippy]

If we keep Boyle and he helps us to 1) The cup final or 2) Avoid relegation or 3) A European place/ Top 6 4) Another 1000 or so Season tickets 5) Another 1000 or so HS members

Extremely risky to sell Boyle

[RoxburghHibs]

Is Lawless that left Livingstone fast?

You mean Livingston? I’m not sure if Lawless was one of the players who left under freedom of contract. But there will be some very good players available for free out there. We just need to ensure we have enough funds to recruit.

[Waxy]

If we keep Boyle and he helps us to 1) The cup final or 2) Avoid relegation or 3) A European place/ Top 6 4) Another 1000 or so Season tickets 5) Another 1000 or so HS members

Extremely risky to sell BoyleWe'd all love to keep Martin Boyle but under the circumstances, needs must.

[Robbo6-2]

Can see Boyler going and Drey Wright coming into replace.

[Brooster]

I would start talking if they offer £2m. Our first team squad of 20 is nowhere near good enough to make the top 4, bringing Miller in for Boyle fills me will fear. I dont rate him at all.

[flash]

A year to go on his contract and the current situation means every club on the planet sells a player they get a reasonable offer for.
Sad but true.

[Callum_62]

I wouldn't begrudge him his move either and is probabky reaching an age where he will want a move

Could definately see him with Lennon at Celtic and thriving there

It all comes down how we spend the cash we might end up with, I'm not quite buying into the were on the verge of folding slant in the msm

Other club are doing exactly what we are doing and don't seem to be getting the same press

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[Robbo6-2]

I can see Boyle heading thru to Celtic as well.

Lennon loves 3 5 2 and Boyle is terrific at right wing back.

Getting a player of Boyles ability at 1m is decent business for both clubs.

[MacGruber]

If a big offer comes in for Boyle he is off. I'd be absolutely gutted but hard as it is the club would be right to sell. In this climate with a year left on his contract.

We would be considerably weaker without Boyle. It could make the difference in getting to the Scottish Cup Final, top v bottom 6, possible relegation worries.

All the notions of keeping half the money and investing half in the team. Isn't going to happen. The lot will be banked. We won't pay any fees.

[Heisenberg]

Boyle out - few free transfers in? Same with Flo. Doubt we’ll spend any fees but it’ll allow us to bolster the squad. The main worry is the quality of player we bring in but there will be good players available for free.

[jeffers]

I can see Boyle heading thru to Celtic as well.

Lennon loves 3 5 2 and Boyle is terrific at right wing back.

Getting a player of Boyles ability at 1m is decent business for both clubs.

Wouldn’t surprise me at all. I’d heard he was going there in January transfer window, not sure why it fell through. Lennon is a big fan of Boyle.

[scotiaf]

Wouldn’t surprise me at all. I’d heard he was going there in January transfer window, not sure why it fell through. Lennon is a big fan of Boyle.

if that was the case I’d expect him to be here till
jan and sign a pre-contract and then sign for small
amount in the window

[Gloucester Hibs]

There was a point around the end of January where MB was involved directly in something like our previous 8 goals. How on earth do you replace that?

[Robbo6-2]

We can replace Boyle, better players have left in the past and we have been fine.

Hes no doubt one of our best players but it will allow us to bring in 2 or 3 players.

The key is to make the right signings and sign the next Martin Boyle and not Tom James

[lucky]

If there’s an offer £1m plus he will be sold. He will also get a big increase in his salary. So I’d do the deal and wish him well but I’d rather he’d went outside Scotland

[B.H.F.C]

We can replace Boyle, better players have left in the past and we have been fine.

Hes no doubt one of our best players but it will allow us to bring in 2 or 3 players.

The key is to make the right signings and sign the next Martin Boyle and not Tom James

Bringing someone in who can make the same contribution as Boyle, right away, is the difficult bit. It took Boyle a couple of years to get close to the level he’s at now. He had a strong squad around him so that was fine. Any replacement, if we sell, won’t have that time.

I think it’s similar to McGinn going. We were never replacing him right away and, unfortunately, we didn’t manage to sign someone we could develop to get to that level either.

[MWHIBBIES]

If he isnt renewing we should be activing trying to sell him to an English side. Celtic should be a last resort.

[The Spaceman]

£1m in the current market for a player with 1 year left on his contract is not bad business. Get the bids up to £1.5m and its great business. He has been a brilliant player for us (incredible improvement) and we are walking away with a brilliant return on investment all-in. I will be gutted to see him leave, but £1-£1.5m for the bank is absolute gold-dust just now and also gives him the chance to make a nice big payday (probably his last chance to do so). Would leave with my very best wishes.

[chrisski33]

Tbh in the current climate i doubt there will be a bidding war. I doubt the funds will be reinvested in playing squad as we are having to cut back

[B.H.F.C]

Tbh in the current climate i doubt there will be a bidding war. I doubt the funds will be reinvested in playing squad as we are having to cut back

There has to be some form of reinvestment if we sell players from an already small squad. We’d be able to do that whilst still reducing our spend at the same time.

[PH91]

I can see Boyle heading thru to Celtic as well.

Lennon loves 3 5 2 and Boyle is terrific at right wing back.

Getting a player of Boyles ability at 1m is decent business for both clubs.

Agree. It also means he would not need to move far and his wife could continue playing for Hibs. If Celtic want him then I can't see him going anywhere else.

[Ozyhibby]

I think Boyle will be away and the club are doing the right thing here. If he won’t sign a new deal then this summer is the right time to sell.
Hopefully Kamberri will be sold as well.
That will take us down to a squad of 17 and you can guarantee we will be bringing players in.


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[hfc rd]

If he isnt renewing we should be activing trying to sell him to an English side. Celtic should be a last resort.

If Celtic were to offer more money than what an English side is prepared to offer us for Boyle then it’ll be stupid to turn down the higher offer. Especially when money is already tight at the club.

[Smartie]

If Celtic want him and he wants to go there then there is no way we’ll get £1m for him.

We’ve seen this show before.

Stoke (or someone similar) flash that cash, we should be encouraging him to go there.

£1m could go quite far in the current climate, but he’s a cracking player, a great lad and will take a bit of replacing.

[Ozyhibby]

If Celtic were to offer more money than what an English side is prepared to offer us for Boyle then it’ll be stupid to turn down the higher offer.

And we won’t. Highest bidder will win but Boyle has a day in where he goes as well.


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[Lancs Harp]

If Celtic were to offer more money than what an English side is prepared to offer us for Boyle then it’ll be stupid to turn down the higher offer.

Of course it would but Celtic dont exactly have form for offering more than English teams do.

[hfc rd]

Of course it would but Celtic dont exactly have form for offering more than English teams do.

Very true. But what I’m trying to say is, I wouldn’t tell them to bolt straight away if they were (yes I know it sounds unlikely due to past dealings i.e. SJM) willing to offer us more money for Boyle than an English side were prepared to offer us for him.

[Aldo]

£1 million for Boyle given his current contract situation is decent. Disappointed we couldn’t get more though!

Him and Flo leaving with some of the money hopefully getting used to bring in a few decent replacements.


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[JohnMcM]

Is Micheal O'Neil still the manager at Stoke?

[franck sauzee]

Is Micheal O'Neil still the manager at Stoke?

Yes he is

[JohnMcM]

Yes he is

Cheers.

[Bobby's Cinema]

There’s half a million difference in prize money between 4th where you’d think a Hibs team keeping its best players can end up and 9th where a Hibs team selling its best players and replacing them eating into the 1mil with cheaper alternatives can end up.

Personally I know which scenario I’d prefer.

[bawheid]

£1m plus a decent sell on clause to an English club. Sold.

[MWHIBBIES]

If Celtic were to offer more money than what an English side is prepared to offer us for Boyle then it’ll be stupid to turn down the higher offer. Especially when money is already tight at the club.

Thats fine but nothing to suggest that is the case, is there? Actually nothing at all linking him to Celtic except Hibs.net (again, been trying to sell Marciano there for 2 years)

Stoke have been linked with a 1 million offer. Thats 1 million more than Celtic.

[Tyler Durden]

Celtic have Forrest and Frimpong so don’t see why they would be interested in Boyle.

[Ozyhibby]

Celtic have Forrest and Frimpong so don’t see why they would be interested in Boyle.

Because it’s a squad game. There will be injuries etc and also having quality on the bench is important as well in case a different kind of option is needed.


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[tonyrougier123]

Selling boyle would be a bad choice for the club,especially for the 1million mentioned,what he brings to the team is invaluable.tell stoke to ram it!:flag:

[Ozyhibby]

Selling boyle would be a bad choice for the club,especially for the 1million mentioned,what he brings to the team is invaluable.tell stoke to ram it!:flag:

You do know we are totally skint?


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[hfc rd]

Thats fine but nothing to suggest that is the case, is there? Actually nothing at all linking him to Celtic except Hibs.net (again, been trying to sell Marciano there for 2 years)

Stoke have been linked with a 1 million offer. Thats 1 million more than Celtic.

Did you not read my post? Here it is if you didn’t:

If Celtic were to offer more money than what an English side is prepared to offer us for Boyle then it’ll be stupid to turn down the higher offer. Especially when money is already tight at the club.


I didn’t say in the above post THAT they have offered more money or WILL be offering more money. I said if they WERE to offer more money, then it’ll be stupid to turn it down especially when money is already tight at the club.

[Tyler Durden]

Because it’s a squad game. There will be injuries etc and also having quality on the bench is important as well in case a different kind of option is needed.


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Yes and they have better options already.

He won’t be going to Celtic

[we are hibs]

The media linked Boyle to Celtic in January. So it definitely wasnt just hibs.net.

[matty_f]

I wonder what difference it will make to things if McGinn moves in the summer for good money. Could be a game changer for us.

[1van Sprou7e]

Yes and they have better options already.

He won’t be going to Celtic

He's one of the best players outside the old firm, proven in Scotland and is very capable in multiple positions

It makes perfect sense for Celtic to sign him

[tonyrougier123]

You do know we are totally skint?


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Theres a whole host of cuts that could be made before selling boyle in a firesale kneejerk money grab scenario.start with directors,if we are concentrating on the first team surely we should be protecting it rather than selling the main supply of decent football?

[Coco Bryce]

Celtic also want Porteous.

[Lancs Harp]

Personally I'd be very disappointed if we sold Boyle. I know there is a significant finance angle here but hes one of the few match winners we currently have, I think we miss him badly when he isnt in the team, with an on form Allen they are about the only spark we have. With cuts being made in various places to protect the first team I hope we try our level best to hang onto our best players, its difficult to anticipate what will happen next season but like all of us I want to see us compete as best we can.

[MWHIBBIES]

The media linked Boyle to Celtic in January. So it definitely wasnt just hibs.net.

That was 6 months ago. Before any of this. Plenty has changed since then.

[Coco Bryce]

That was 6 months ago. Before any of this. Plenty has changed since then.

Yes. Clubs with money now know that clubs selling these players will probably accept less than 6 months ago.

[04Sauzee]

Celtic also want Porteous.

Reported? Or you know this?

[Coco Bryce]

Reported? Or you know this?

Not reported. From someone on the backroom staff. Lennon loves him.

[MWHIBBIES]

Yes. Clubs with money now know that clubs selling these players will probably accept less than 6 months ago.

Maybe. They also might have different priorities and different targets may have become available.

[04Sauzee]

Not reported. From someone on the backroom staff. Lennon loves him.

Interesting, wonder what kind of fee we'd be looking at for Porto

[Borderhibbie76]

Interesting, wonder what kind of fee we'd be looking at for Porto

A lot more than Septic will be willing to pay that's for sure

[Billy Whizz]

Interesting, wonder what kind of fee we'd be looking at for Porto

Ryan if he has any sense, shouldn’t be going anywhere. After his injuries of late, needs to be playing every week at Hibs this season
Best for him and Hibs

[04Sauzee]

Ryan if he has any sense, shouldn’t be going anywhere. After his injuries of late, needs to be playing every week at Hibs this season
Best for him and Hibs

Wasn't suggesting he should look to leave, not suggesting we should be looking to sell, every player has a price i wonder what value Hibs put on Porteous.

[Robbo6-2]

We will get 3m for Porto eventually

[lord bunberry]

Personally I'd be very disappointed if we sold Boyle. I know there is a significant finance angle here but hes one of the few match winners we currently have, I think we miss him badly when he isnt in the team, with an on form Allen they are about the only spark we have. With cuts being made in various places to protect the first team I hope we try our level best to hang onto our best players, its difficult to anticipate what will happen next season but like all of us I want to see us compete as best we can.
Totally agree, selling Boyle would be a terrible move. If we let him go we will end up slow and pedestrian again, he has to be worth a lot more than a million as well, even with a year left on his contract.

[jax67]

I can see Boyle heading thru to Celtic as well.

Lennon loves 3 5 2 and Boyle is terrific at right wing back.

Getting a player of Boyles ability at 1m is decent business for both clubs.

Yep, add to that the fact that he won't have to uproot and move his family south, makes sense.

[Tambo]

Maybe I'm being unrealistic here but if Boyle was to go to Celtic then I would want at least 1/1.5m and a couple players on loan for the season maybe Dembele.

[Phil MaGlass]

Maybe I'm being unrealistic here but if Boyle was to go to Celtic then I would want at least 1/1.5m and a couple players on loan for the season maybe Dembele.

I would hold out for Aston Villa:greengrin

[JimBHibees]

£1 million for Boyle given his current contract situation is decent. Disappointed we couldn’t get more though!

Him and Flo leaving with some of the money hopefully getting used to bring in a few decent replacements.


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If we are going to sell Martin hopefully get a bit of an auction going.

[Aldo]

If we are going to sell Martin hopefully get a bit of an auction going.

Lets hope so. Whilst I don’t want to lose him , if we can get a decent amount it could help bring a few in.


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[Unseen work]

Like many have said we won’t get as much for Boyle than we would ordinarily.

The argument of the impact he would have on the team over the season would be worth more than 1 million doesn’t really work this time imo. We’re in a very difficult financial position, if he have an opportunity to get 1 million straight in that would be an absolutely massive boost that we can’t turn down.

Add that to the 150-200k we will get for Flo and saving their big wages then we would be a lot more stable.

We need to recruit with decent quality though, not just cheap to bulk up the squad.

Im sure there are one or 2 Celtic players that they want shot of.

Shved
Euan Henderson
Kouassi

[04Sauzee]

Like many have said we won’t get as much for Boyle than we would ordinarily.

The argument of the impact he would have on the team over the season would be worth more than 1 million doesn’t really work this time imo. We’re in a very difficult financial position, if he have an opportunity to get 1 million straight in that would be an absolutely massive boost that we can’t turn down.

Add that to the 150-200k we will get for Flo and saving their big wages then we would be a lot more stable.

We need to recruit with decent quality though, not just cheap to bulk up the squad.

Im sure there are one or 2 Celtic players that they want shot of.

Shved
Euan Henderson
Kouassi

Thought they managed to shift Kouassi for a decent fee?

[Unseen work]

Thought they managed to shift Kouassi for a decent fee?

Sorry you’re right, thought it was just a loan!

[Smartie]

Do they not rate Henderson highly?

I’ve been back in touch with a Celtic supporting mate recently and he says he’s a good bit better than Liam.

[04Sauzee]

Sorry you’re right, thought it was just a loan!

No apologies required I had to go check myself, but they did well to recoup as much money as they did

[04Sauzee]

Do they not rate Henderson highly?

I’ve been back in touch with a Celtic supporting mate recently and he says he’s a good bit better than Liam.

Think he was always rated as the better brother
, he's 20 and would imagine next season would be a big season for him. He was on loan at Ross County not sure how that went?

[JimBHibees]

Do they not rate Henderson highly?

I’ve been back in touch with a Celtic supporting mate recently and he says he’s a good bit better than Liam.

Wasn't great v us at ER earlier in the season.

[badabing67]

Personally I'd be very disappointed if we sold Boyle. I know there is a significant finance angle here but hes one of the few match winners we currently have, I think we miss him badly when he isnt in the team, with an on form Allen they are about the only spark we have. With cuts being made in various places to protect the first team I hope we try our level best to hang onto our best players, its difficult to anticipate what will happen next season but like all of us I want to see us compete as best we can.

I agree I remember his 1st game back as a sub against Livi he got the two late goals to get us a point, which on the night we didn't really deserve. He was instrumental in the run of form which which lifted us out the bottom half of the table when Ross arrived. Without Boyle I don't we would have been anywhere near top 6 the whole season.

[MWHIBBIES]

I agree I remember his 1st game back as a sub against Livi he got the two late goals to get us a point, which on the night we didn't really deserve. He was instrumental in the run of form which which lifted us out the bottom half of the table when Ross arrived. Without Boyle I don't we would have been anywhere near top 6 the whole season.

He scored 1. It was 2-1 for 20 minutes before he came on.

He had a brilliant run. Also totally missing in a few games as well. Livi home and away, Hearts at home.

I think Boyle is a great player for Hibs. I think he'll struggle elsewhere.

[neil7908]

£1m for Boyle in the current climate and with only a year left on his deal is a good offer and I'd be gobsmacked if we turned that down. Judging by the noises coming out of the club there is no way we can lose that money by letting him go for free in 12 months.

If I'm honest I'm struggling to see anything other than a poorer Hibs team next season.

However, I suspect every other SPL team will be poorer as well. This is where our scouts and knowledge of the market is going to be critical. There will be a lot more players freed so we need to be canny in scouring the market for bargains.

[The_Sauz]

Boyle has had long term injuries and is approaching an age where he's going to lose his explosiveness. We should take £1m if that's the deal on the table.
He is only 27 and in his prime?

[Ozyhibby]

He is only 27 and in his prime?

Just about the age that speedsters start to lose that zip. They are also more prone to injuries because of that explosiveness.


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[04Sauzee]

Just about the age that speedsters start to lose that zip. They are also more prone to injuries because of that explosiveness.


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Is this true or made up?

[500miles]

Is this true or made up?

Fast players are definitely more prone to hamstring injuries.

[04Sauzee]

Fast players are definitely more prone to hamstring injuries.

I get that but is 27 going to see his hammy injuries pile up and we're going to notice a decline in his pace? Understand he will get slower with age but im not expecting to notice anything different anytime soon.

[DTS]

To be totally honest I expected boyle to go for about a million or so even without the current pandemic as he leaves for nothing next summer. If there are a few teams interested especially down south you could probably push up to 1.5 ish. The move makes sense for everyone and it only makes sense for hibs to keep boyle if he signs a new contract but I can’t see that happening as he wouldn’t be able to get the pay rise he deserves currently

[ancient hibee]

Is this true or made up?

It would certainly surprise a few Olympic 100 metre champs.:greengrin

[J-C]

Just about the age that speedsters start to lose that zip. They are also more prone to injuries because of that explosiveness.


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Better tell Ronaldo that because he's as fast today as he was at 26

[Lee Marvin]

Hearts get relegated incurring £8m losses and may not have a league to play in - SPEND MONEY

Hibs stay in premiership with league starting in 6 weeks - DO NOT SPEND MONEY and live within means

hmmm....somethings never change do they.

[Green Manalishi]

Better tell Ronaldo that because he's as fast today as he was at 26 Ryan Giggs was still flying down the wing in his 30s.

[Green Manalishi]

I cant believe some folk would be happy to sell Martin Boyle. He is arguably the best player we have.

[bigwheel]

I cant believe some folk would be happy to sell Martin Boyle. He is arguably the best player we have.

Yes. Has come on so much since he joined ..will be almost impossible to replace ...

[hfc rd]

I cant believe some folk would be happy to sell Martin Boyle. He is arguably the best player we have.

I don’t think anyone deep down on here wants us to lose Boyle or even any of our best players. No one does. But after what’s happened with this pandemic and the club making it publicly know that money is tight, it has virtually changed everything and a seven figure offer for Boyle is going to be hard for the board to turn down.

[JimBHibees]

Just about the age that speedsters start to lose that zip. They are also more prone to injuries because of that explosiveness.


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Not at 27 they don't. Absolute prime.

[MWHIBBIES]

I cant believe some folk would be happy to sell Martin Boyle. He is arguably the best player we have.

We've always sold the best player we have. Always.

[King Cosell]

Chris Burke available? I'd give him a year. I know he's 36 but he's super fit. Had a great season, excellent against us.

[hfc rd]

Chris Burke available? I'd give him a year. I know he's 36 but he's super fit. Had a great season, excellent against us.

He signed a year contact extension with Killie last week

[MWHIBBIES]

Chris Burke available? I'd give him a year. I know he's 36 but he's super fit. Had a great season, excellent against us.

No. Renewed with Killie.

[JimBHibees]

It would certainly surprise a few Olympic 100 metre champs.:greengrin

Usain bolt won both 100 and 200 and 4x100 relay days short of his 30th birthday.

[04Sauzee]

Chris Burke available? I'd give him a year. I know he's 36 but he's super fit. Had a great season, excellent against us.

The young boy Kiltie has always impressed me although hasn't played many games for his age. Sure he was on loan at Dunfermline and he impressed their supporters

[eastmainsmsh]

Sean Scannell available winger if Boyler is sold

[04Sauzee]

Johnny Hayes signs for Aberdeen

[easty]

Sean Scannell available winger if Boyler is sold

That’d be a terrible signing.

I don’t mind Hibs signing players from the English lower leagues if they’ve actually been doing well...he hasn’t.

[007]

Johnny Hayes signs for Aberdeen

Thought they were haemorrhaging money, even if they have managed to raise/save £5m, still expecting to lose £5m and asking players to take wage cuts.

[GreenCastle]

Also worth factoring in Boyle’s partner.

She plays at Hibs women and a move down south would mean a lot of change with a young one. Celtic would probably be easier for them both but money talks so we shall see.

Will be gutted if he goes as he’s an exciting player to watch - we would definitely need to bring in several players as just no balance in team previously and he leaves we struggle even more.

[Callum_62]

Thought they were haemorrhaging money, even if they have managed to raise/save £5m, still expecting to lose £5m and asking players to now take wage cuts.Ever single side in Scotland will be harmirrhaging money

End of the day the business we are in is football - we must have a decent side on the park regardless

We are all in the same boat so will be interesting how each team plays it

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[Bobby's Cinema]

Johnny Hayes signs for Aberdeen

Will this be the cue for the yearly ‘losing our **** at what business other teams are doing vs us?’ Or are we not quite there yet.

[Michael]

Usain bolt won both 100 and 200 and 4x100 relay days short of his 30th birthday.

Probably drugged out his nut (as for most of his career), but Justin Gatlin won World Championship gold at 35.

[04Sauzee]

Will this be the cue for the yearly ‘losing our **** at what business other teams are doing vs us?’ Or are we not quite there yet.

Won't be long 😂

[neil7908]

I cant believe some folk would be happy to sell Martin Boyle. He is arguably the best player we have.

It's Sunday night and I'm really not looking forward to work tomorrow but I'm going going to get up and do it anyway as its necessary so I don't lose my house.

Hibs are in the same position - I'm sure the manager, owner and fans don't want to lose Martin but it's clear we are in trouble and need to balance the books.

It's frustrating to see Aberdeen and Hearts seemingly chucking money around but we can't control them.

[MWHIBBIES]

Probably drugged out his nut (as for most of his career), but Justin Gatlin won World Championship gold at 35.

Is there stuff about Bolt being a cheat? Never heard that.

[ScottB]

Is there stuff about Bolt being a cheat? Never heard that.

I think he meant Gatlin

[jacomo]

Is there stuff about Bolt being a cheat? Never heard that.


Ha! Sprinting is awash with drugs.

[MWHIBBIES]

I think he meant Gatlin

Yeah, right enough.

[Scott Allan Key]

I don’t think anyone deep down on here wants us to lose Boyle or even any of our best players. No one does. But after what’s happened with this pandemic and the club making it publicly know that money is tight, it has virtually changed everything and a seven figure offer for Boyle is going to be hard for the board to turn down.We're not going to get a seven figure offer because we've made it public that we're skint.

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[Stuart93]

Ever single side in Scotland will be harmirrhaging money

End of the day the business we are in is football - we must have a decent side on the park regardless

We are all in the same boat so will be interesting how each team plays it

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Yep this is my worry

All chat has been focussed on is us selling off our better players to this team and that team.

We have to be competitive on this pitch next season regardless. It isn’t too difficult to find yourself near the bottom of the league & has been shown by hearts last season you’re never too big a club for the drop.

Not only that but another mediocre mundane season will hit our income streams for people renewing ST’s for next again season. We need a feel good factor back around the club and the only way to achieve that is success on the park

[Unseen work]

With it looking unlikely we will get Nisbet or Stewart id quite like us to try for Callum Hendry at St Johnstone. Think he would require a small fee which I appreciate it’s unlikely we’ll be in a position to do.

Another who would command a small fee that I’d like to see us go for is Ilkay Durmus from St Mirren, very tricky player in a position were poor/short.

Also think guys like Greg Stewart will be out the picture at Rangers and would be a great addition, really classy player.

[mjhibby]

I don’t think anyone deep down on here wants us to lose Boyle or even any of our best players. No one does. But after what’s happened with this pandemic and the club making it publicly know that money is tight, it has virtually changed everything and a seven figure offer for Boyle is going to be hard for the board to turn down.

Being tight for money doesn’t necessarily mean we will sell Boyle. We are trying to ensure we keep a decent team on the park. Let’s wait and see how the window goes first before we start to go into meltdown. I’m sure the recruitment team will have irons in the fire.

[mjhibby]

I think that most spl clubs will be looking at just negotiating the season with as small a loss as possible. The ugly sisters I’ve no doubt pull miles ahead and the dons in third. Outside that I wouldn’t try to predict. Clubs are losing half their income and will have to plug the gap. Unfortunately I think the football on show will inevitably be of a poorer standard. Not being negative just being realistic with these extraordinary times.

[JimBHibees]

Probably drugged out his nut (as for most of his career), but Justin Gatlin won World Championship gold at 35.

Probably not definitely but shows the sprinters loose their pace at 27 to be the nonsense it is.

[easty]

It's Sunday night and I'm really not looking forward to work tomorrow but I'm going going to get up and do it anyway as its necessary so I don't lose my house.

Hibs are in the same position - I'm sure the manager, owner and fans don't want to lose Martin but it's clear we are in trouble and need to balance the books.

It's frustrating to see Aberdeen and Hearts seemingly chucking money around but we can't control them.

Are Aberdeen and Hearts chucking money around?

Haven’t Aberdeen only signed one player on a free, and Hearts have signed nobody. Unless I’m missing something?

[bigwheel]

Are Aberdeen and Hearts chucking money around?

Haven’t Aberdeen only signed one player on a free, and Hearts have signed nobody. Unless I’m missing something?

Fair points, but Hearts have just spent 100k for a manager...certainly different than our current tone....

[easty]

We’ve obviously not got lots of spare cash to go out and bring players in, but that’s generally been the case most seasons I can remember.

We’d very occasionally spend a little bit of cash on one or two.

I don’t believe for a second that the message to Jack Ross will be - dinnae worry bout this season, just don’t get relegated.

Jack Ross was doing a good job (not perfect, but good) in my opinion, and if the season had been played out we’d have finished in the top 6, I back him to do a good job in the coming season. It’s about getting the best out of the players you have. If he can get the best out of what we have, we’re good enough to be nearer top than bottom.

We might lose Boyle. I’d love to keep him, but as others have pointed out, we always sell our best players. That’s never going to change.

[easty]

Fair points, but Hearts have just spent 100k for a manager...certainly different than our current tone....

If we needed a manager we’d have done the same.

[KeithTheHibby]

I suspect loan deals will be highly on the cards for this season.

[jonny]

We’ve obviously not got lots of spare cash to go out and bring players in, but that’s generally been the case most seasons I can remember.

We’d very occasionally spend a little bit of cash on one or two.

I don’t believe for a second that the message to Jack Ross will be - dinnae worry bout this season, just don’t get relegated.

Jack Ross was doing a good job (not perfect, but good) in my opinion, and if the season had been played out we’d have finished in the top 6, I back him to do a good job in the coming season. It’s about getting the best out of the players you have. If he can get the best out of what we have, we’re good enough to be nearer top than bottom.

We might lose Boyle. I’d love to keep him, but as others have pointed out, we always sell our best players. That’s never going to change.


Good measured post. I completely agree with everything you've said here.
Whilst we're definitely being cautious I don't think we're anywhere near pressing the panic button.

[Greenworld]

I suspect loan deals will be highly on the cards for this season.More so this season than ever , however if we manage to get anywhere near the 1 million for boyle then that must be used to bring in 2 or 3 players we are well short on quality now .

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[bigwheel]

If we needed a manager we’d have done the same.

True , but there were free options around. McCann for example. They have also offered deal to Gordon , he won’t be cheap. It’s a sign they are getting backed differently from us currently. Likely through their FOH and Anderson funds ...

[Greenworld]

True , but there were free options around. McCann for example. They have also offered deal to Gordon , he won’t be cheap. It’s a sign they are getting backed differently from us currently. Likely through their FOH and Anderson funds ...FOH is a great funding machine ,hopefully we can emulate that ourselves , the rich backer is harder to find but it has not worked well for them so far .

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[Ozyhibby]

Probably not definitely but shows the sprinters loose their pace at 27 to be the nonsense it is.

Pacey footballers and Olympic sprinters are two very different types of athletes with two very different body types.
I would say that an Olympic sprinter usually hits his peak about 30 and then start to get slower but a football speedster reaches it about 27.


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[B.H.F.C]

True , but there were free options around. McCann for example. They have also offered deal to Gordon , he won’t be cheap. It’s a sign they are getting backed differently from us currently. Likely through their FOH and Anderson funds ...

They’ve lost a large number of players. A number of players are on reduced wages. They’ve lost a manager who was on a high salary and likely replaced him with someone on a smaller salary.

As it stands the amount they are spending will be vastly reduced. And even if it wasn’t they’ve never exactly spent responsibly.

[Ozyhibby]

We’ve obviously not got lots of spare cash to go out and bring players in, but that’s generally been the case most seasons I can remember.

We’d very occasionally spend a little bit of cash on one or two.

I don’t believe for a second that the message to Jack Ross will be - dinnae worry bout this season, just don’t get relegated.

Jack Ross was doing a good job (not perfect, but good) in my opinion, and if the season had been played out we’d have finished in the top 6, I back him to do a good job in the coming season. It’s about getting the best out of the players you have. If he can get the best out of what we have, we’re good enough to be nearer top than bottom.

We might lose Boyle. I’d love to keep him, but as others have pointed out, we always sell our best players. That’s never going to change.

Player trading is actually part of our business plan so nobody should be surprised when Boyle goes.


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Player trading is actually part of our business plan so nobody should be surprised when Boyle goes.


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Hopefully for a fair bit more than a million though.

[Paisley Hibby]

Being tight for money doesn’t necessarily mean we will sell Boyle. We are trying to ensure we keep a decent team on the park. Let’s wait and see how the window goes first before we start to go into meltdown. I’m sure the recruitment team will have irons in the fire.
Without Boyle we're just not the same team and in an ideal world we'd be getting him on an extended contract. But if the choice is a million quid now or lose him for nowt on a pre contract come January what do you think Hibs will do?

[easty]

True , but there were free options around. McCann for example. They have also offered deal to Gordon , he won’t be cheap. It’s a sign they are getting backed differently from us currently. Likely through their FOH and Anderson funds ...

McCann is a **** manager. Neilson has won the championship twice, once with Hearts. £100k for that experience and knowledge is prob worth it. He’ll get them up in one season.

I dunno what they’ll be paying Craig Gordon, but St Mirren were being strongly linked with him too, so wages can’t be that huge.

[bigwheel]

They’ve lost a large number of players. A number of players are on reduced wages. They’ve lost a manager who was on a high salary and likely replaced him with someone on a smaller salary.

As it stands the amount they are spending will be vastly reduced. And even if it wasn’t they’ve never exactly spent responsibly.

Lol. You’re sort of putting out both sides of the debate here ...The first couple of sentences are the exact same as us...

I’m just noting that they seem to be moving forward with acquisition activity, contrasting to our situation which is more survival behaviour. They must have funding that we don’t have currently. As others have said, the guy Anderson must continue to be backing them at a decent level

[bigwheel]

McCann is a **** manager. Neilson has won the championship twice, once with Hearts. £100k for that experience and knowledge is prob worth it. He’ll get them up in one season.

I dunno what they’ll be paying Craig Gordon, but St Mirren were being strongly linked with him too, so wages can’t be that huge.

Not sure what you are debating here. I’m not criticising, just noting that comparatively speaking they are investing, while we are not. looks like they have deeper pockets than us currently ...

[Greenworld]

Not sure what you are debating here. I’m not criticising, just noting that comparatively speaking they are investing, while we are not. looks like they have deeper pockets than us currently ...Once the players wages are sorted out we may see some incoming players or bids being made .
Was it not today was the deadline for players accepting or not ?

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[easty]

Not sure what you are debating here. I’m not criticising, just noting that comparatively speaking they are investing, while we are not. looks like they have deeper pockets than us currently ...

No debate, they have deeper pockets than us. I agree.

[Heisenberg]

Not sure what you are debating here. I’m not criticising, just noting that comparatively speaking they are investing, while we are not. looks like they have deeper pockets than us currently ...

They probably do, they’ve got a rich benefactor who seems willing to chuck his money at them no matter how badly they’ve utilised it in the past and a fan contribution scheme which gives them plenty too.

[Sioux]

Hopefully for a fair bit more than a million though.

Dream on!

[Brightside]

Fair points, but Hearts have just spent 100k for a manager...certainly different than our current tone....

Imagine being a player at Hearts and you take a big deduction, forced on you by AB. A few weeks later she hands over 100k+ to Utd for a manager they didnt need to sign. Its a shambles of a club.

[Leitherhibs]

All gone quiet on the Gogic rumour, presumably because of the wage cut negotiations, anyone else think that once they've been agreed we'll announce a couple of new players?

[Ozyhibby]

All gone quiet on the Gogic rumour, presumably because of the wage cut negotiations, anyone else think that once they've been agreed we'll announce a couple of new players?

I think it’s almost certain that new players will be coming in. Need the negotiations with the players over quickly and everything settled amicably to be able to move to that stage though. Hopefully done and dusted today.
Would also be good if any who are moving on do so quickly as well so the club know where they stand and can act accordingly.


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[Brightside]

All gone quiet on the Gogic rumour, presumably because of the wage cut negotiations, anyone else think that once they've been agreed we'll announce a couple of new players?

Only just back at training. Lots of movement on players in the next 2 weeks.

[04Sauzee]

Only just back at training. Lots of movement on players in the next 2 weeks.

What's your thoughts on what players may leave other than Kamberi?

Boyle because of his contract situation and potential suitors?

Horgan didn't seem to get much game time under Ross (I might have made that up but it didn't seem like he did?) anyway I'd imagine we could get a small fee and im sure he'd be a decent earner.

[Lago]

Fair points, but Hearts have just spent 100k for a manager...certainly different than our current tone....
And apparently offering Craig Gordon 2 year contract. I'm definitely missing something here.

[Brightside]

What's your thoughts on what players may leave other than Kamberi?

Boyle because of his contract situation and potential suitors?

Horgan didn't seem to get much game time under Ross (I might have made that up but it didn't seem like he did?) anyway I'd imagine we could get a small fee and im sure he'd be a decent earner.

Anyone on a longer contract will be hard to move on. So I don’t expect much movement with them. Kamberi and Boyle appear to be favs to go. That’s no surprise. Will be like for like replacements coming in. Unless others go I don’t think we will see much more. We have cover in most areas so unless we sell we won’t see others in.

[04Sauzee]

Anyone on a longer contract will be hard to move on. So I don’t expect much movement with them. Kamberi and Boyle appear to be favs to go. That’s no surprise. Will be like for like replacements coming in. Unless others go I don’t think we will see much more. We have cover in most areas so unless we sell we won’t see others in.
Looks like Horgan is in his last year so similar position as Boyle but maybe with not as many interested parties, Horgan is a gem of a guy but could see us trying to move him on, Miller who was at Hamilton wouldn't be the worst replacement and I'm sure his wages wouldn't be as high.

Like you I don't think there will be much movement unless we do some wheeling and dealing

[Green Manalishi]

Anyone on a longer contract will be hard to move on. So I don’t expect much movement with them. Kamberi and Boyle appear to be favs to go. That’s no surprise. Will be like for like replacements coming in. Unless others go I don’t think we will see much more. We have cover in most areas so unless we sell we won’t see others in. We have cover at right back and centre half. We are down to the bare bones everywhere else

[HairyMM]

I think it’s almost certain that new players will be coming in. Need the negotiations with the players over quickly and everything settled amicably to be able to move to that stage though. Hopefully done and dusted today.
Would also be good if any who are moving on do so quickly as well so the club know where they stand and can act accordingly.


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Aberdeen have re-signed Johnny Hayes on a 2 year deal whilst in negotiations with players over wage cuts. Hibs appear to do things differently to our closest rivals.

[easty]

Aberdeen have re-signed Johnny Hayes on a 2 year deal whilst in negotiations with players over wage cuts. Hibs appear to do things differently to our closest rivals.

Haven't Aberdeen agreed wage cuts of 20% with their players? So negotiations are finished. Ours aren't.

[mjhibby]

Aberdeen have re-signed Johnny Hayes on a 2 year deal whilst in negotiations with players over wage cuts. Hibs appear to do things differently to our closest rivals.

Loads of negative posts creeping in due to our owner being honest and upfront. It’s not in anybody’s interest to have a poor team on the park.Id wait till nearer Aug 1 before worrying.

[Scotty Leither]

Loads of negative posts creeping in due to our owner being honest and upfront. It’s not in anybody’s interest to have a poor team on the park.Id wait till nearer Aug 1 before worrying.

Granted...but we are still a functioning football club and in the midst of this pandemic the fans have rallied and it seems that HS has had a massive shot in the arm due to the fact that it's clear now that its sole aim is to give money to the club (that's certainly the reason I reinstated my D/D) yet the club itself has been painfully slow to get behind it.

We've had the plea for funds from the club, we've responded to that, now it's time for Ron and the club to respond with some positive news, hopefully in the shape of a couple of decent players being brought in because we need them.

[hfc rd]

We're not going to get a seven figure offer because we've made it public that we're skint.

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Well isn’t this £1M offer from Stoke not seven figures? 1,000,000 ?

[ScottB]

Granted...but we are still a functioning football club and in the midst of this pandemic the fans have rallied and it seems that HS has had a massive shot in the arm due to the fact that it's clear now that its sole aim is to give money to the club (that's certainly the reason I reinstated my D/D) yet the club itself has been painfully slow to get behind it.

We've had the plea for funds from the club, we've responded to that, now it's time for Ron and the club to respond with some positive news, hopefully in the shape of a couple of decent players being brought in because we need them.

True, but, let’s not forget, those funds are still going to be way, way lower than last year.

It’s amazing how many have taken season tickets, but that’s going to be pretty much it for match day income, no walk ups, no away fans, no food, probably greatly reduced advertising income.

If the club are going to attempt to run at a moderate loss, nevermind break even, then the squad budget is going to be markedly lower.

[Bronson]

Looks like Horgan is in his last year so similar position as Boyle but maybe with not as many interested parties, Horgan is a gem of a guy but could see us trying to move him on, Miller who was at Hamilton wouldn't be the worst replacement and I'm sure his wages wouldn't be as high.

Like you I don't think there will be much movement unless we do some wheeling and dealing

Punting horgan for mikel miller would be depressingly shan business. Horgan’s one of our best players imo. Wasn’t at it for much of last season but he’s got bags of ability, we’d be crazy to let him go.

[04Sauzee]

Punting horgan for mikel miller would be depressingly shan business. Horgan’s one of our best players imo. Wasn’t at it for much of last season but he’s got bags of ability, we’d be crazy to let him go.

Happy for you to disagree, Horgan doesn't do it for me, one of the nicest guys you could meet but to me he can be very lazy, definitely a no track back in my books

[MWHIBBIES]

Punting horgan for mikel miller would be depressingly shan business. Horgan’s one of our best players imo. Wasn’t at it for much of last season but he’s got bags of ability, we’d be crazy to let him go.

I don't think he is as good as that but miles better than Mikel Miller ffs.

If Horgan can find the form of his first season, 15 odd goal contributions, he'll be very important next season.

[Leitherhibs]

Punting horgan for mikel miller would be depressingly shan business. Horgan’s one of our best players imo. Wasn’t at it for much of last season but he’s got bags of ability, we’d be crazy to let him go.

:agree: Folk wanting Mickel Miller need to careful what they wish for, very inconsistent player, who on his best day isn't as good as Horgan on his best day. Horgan had a poor season and is a big earner, but he's still a decent player who has done enough to be kept around, barring an unlikely silly money offer.

[04Sauzee]

I don't think he is as good as that but miles better than Mikel Miller ffs.

If Horgan can find the form of his first season, 15 odd goal contributions, he'll be very important next season.
My point regarding Miller was we were after him in the summer,Horgan is lazy so a fee and a saving on wages would be good business

[Bronson]

Happy for you to disagree, Horgan doesn't do it for me, one of the nicest guys you could meet but to me he can be very lazy, definitely a no track back in my books

I agree his tracking back leaves a lot to be desired but he’s still one of the few players I feel can make something happen when we need a bit of magic. I would say horgan, allan and boyle are the only 3 capable of that and boyle is likely to leave

[04Sauzee]

:agree: Folk wanting Mickel Miller need to careful what they wish for, very inconsistent player, who on his best day isn't as good as Horgan on his best day. Horgan had a poor season and is a big earner, but he's still a decent player who has done enough to be kept around, barring an unlikely silly money offer.
Sorry again my point regarding Miller is we were in for him in Jan, in think we will do some wheeling and dealing and i may be wrong but Horgan will be a decent earner. Maybe didn't make it obvious what my opinion was 😁

[Scotty Leither]

True, but, let’s not forget, those funds are still going to be way, way lower than last year.

It’s amazing how many have taken season tickets, but that’s going to be pretty much it for match day income, no walk ups, no away fans, no food, probably greatly reduced advertising income.

If the club are going to attempt to run at a moderate loss, nevermind break even, then the squad budget is going to be markedly lower.

The club wouldn't have expected the take-up of HS, and i'm astonished they've not swung behind it in a more vocal and public manner than they have up to this point: it's free money and our marketing team should be on it and pushing it as a collective effort.

If we sell Boyle as seems likely, the manager has to be given decent a portion of that as all areas of the team need strengthening; we're better placed than most to weather this for the reasons i've outlined above.

If the Board send out a message of we're just going to do enough to survive this season, then that's pretty much the kind of season we'll have, and we need something to give us some hope, especially with the semi against that mob coming up too.

[Unseen work]

I don’t think Horgan is good enough or anywhere near consistent enough for where I think we should be.

He came from Preston with a good reputation and will undoubtedly be on a decent wage which as a whole he’s failed to justify.

The first season he got quite a bit of stuck but I was happy to back him up as I thought he could at least create the odd thing and looked dangerous at times but this season he has been miles off of it.

I always feel he should be much further up the pitch so he can hurt the opposition but never is.

Id move him on however don’t think Mickel Miller is the answer as a starter, maybe a cheap back up for the bench but that’s not what we need. We need players that will come straight into the team.

We need quality to come in on the left hand side as we’ve been very poor there and it makes it predicatable where we will go every time.

Were meant to be challenging for 3rd/4th right? Look at Aberdeen’s wingers and tell me they don’t all walk into our left wing position

McGinn
Hayes - To be confirmed today
Kennedy
Hedges
Mclennan
Scott Wright

[Speedway]

The club wouldn't have expected the take-up of HS, and i'm astonished they've not swung behind it in a more vocal and public manner than they have up to this point: it's free money and our marketing team should be on it and pushing it as a collective effort.

If we sell Boyle as seems likely, the manager has to be given decent a portion of that as all areas of the team need strengthening; we're better placed than most to weather this for the reasons i've outlined above.

If the Board send out a message of we're just going to do enough to survive this season, then that's pretty much the kind of season we'll have, and we need something to give us some hope, especially with the semi against that mob coming up too.

Are the marketing team back from furlough?

[green day]

Were meant to be challenging for 3rd/4th right? Look at Aberdeen’s wingers and tell me they don’t all walk into our left wing position

McGinn
Hayes - To be confirmed today
Kennedy
Hedges
Mclennan
Scott Wright

Dont disagree with your general point - but its not surprising that Aberdeen are struggling financially if that is the level of cover they have on the left wing !!

[greenpaper55]

I think we will be lucky to retain what we have and there will be very little transfer activity, us and a million others.

[sean04]

My mate reckons hearts are in for Nesbit now

[Aldo]

My mate reckons hearts are in for Nesbit now

And others. Bankrolling is going to continue as they build for this and future seasons.

Their team maybe unrecognisable, player wise should the SF be played


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[Nicho87]

My mate reckons hearts are in for Nesbit now

Absolute stick on that would happen.

[we are hibs]

Horgan is good enough. hes proven it in bursts but nowhere near consistent enough.

[madhatter]

Horgan is good enough. hes proven it in bursts but nowhere near consistent enough.

So...he's good enough for the bench?

[Green Manalishi]

My mate reckons hearts are in for Nesbit now My mate reckons he looks like Brad Pitt

[Spike Mandela]

My mate reckons hearts are in for Nesbit now

Seriously, at this point in his career do you think he would choose to stay in the Championship and sit on his bahooky till October?

Despite all the NOISE emanating from Gorgie I think Hearts will find it very difficult to recruit.

[Berwickhibby]

Are the marketing team back from furlough?

I assume so, I dealt with Aidan today in regard to kit Sponsorship

[easty]

Seriously, at this point in his career do you think he would choose to stay in the Championship and sit on his bahooky till October?

Despite all the NOISE emanatinh from Gorgie I think Hearts will find it very difgicult to recruit.

I think he’d sign for them in the Championship, and not play til October, if they were gonna pay him most.

[Souter96Mac]

I reckon Dunfermline would rather keep him and give them a better chance of promotion/playoffs, unless Hearts offered silly money. Not sure what silly money would be, maybe £750k upwards?

Can't see it.

[Hibiza]

Slivka & Vela played against Morton. Appreciate that doesn't suit your usual narrative of talking Slivka up and not rating Mallan.

Could we not sell Mallan , get a few Bob and free up a midfield space.

[Keyser Sauzee]

Could we not sell Mallan , get a few Bob and free up a midfield space.

I can’t see anybody paying us decent money for Mallan going by his form for us.

[oneone73]

I can’t see anybody paying us decent money for Mallan going by his form for us.

He was fans and players player of the year the season before last. There's a lot I would want rid of before Stevie Mallan.

[matty_f]

Granted...but we are still a functioning football club and in the midst of this pandemic the fans have rallied and it seems that HS has had a massive shot in the arm due to the fact that it's clear now that its sole aim is to give money to the club (that's certainly the reason I reinstated my D/D) yet the club itself has been painfully slow to get behind it.

We've had the plea for funds from the club, we've responded to that, now it's time for Ron and the club to respond with some positive news, hopefully in the shape of a couple of decent players being brought in because we need them.

The club didn't make a plea for funds (unless they have, and I've missed it.)

HSL had not been approached by anyone at the club either directly or indirectly to ask the fans to dig in - everything that's happened so far has been instigated by fans wanting to help.

The whole media team at Hibs were furloughed,which is why there's not been a concerted effort to get behind HSL by the club, but I believe this is coming soon.

I think everyone just needs to take a breath and remember the circumstances around the club at the moment, and maybe cut the staff there some slack in the meantime.

Bear in mind, that there's a good chance that the conversations around redundancies and wage cuts will involve the media team, marketing etc as well - there's a human side to this and it wouldn't hurt us as a support to afford the people concerned a bit of leeway while they get their heads around it.

[Keyser Sauzee]

He was fans and players player of the year the season before last. There's a lot I would want rid of before Stevie Mallan.

All true, I still don’t see anybody offering us a decent fee for him.

[jacomo]

My point regarding Miller was we were after him in the summer,Horgan is lazy so a fee and a saving on wages would be good business


Horgan isn’t lazy. His positioning, defensive awareness and game management leave something to be desired but he isn’t lazy.

[J-C]

Horgan isn’t lazy. His positioning, defensive awareness and game management leave something to be desired but he isn’t lazy.


He's also blowing out his erse after 60 mins every game, one of the unfittest players I've seen for a while, seemingly likes a wee ciggie to himself.

[Unseen work]

I can’t believe anyone would want Mallan to leave. He would start for most teams in the league and would be a player we would be desperate to have if he was playing elsewhere.

If he get utilised correctly he’s a great option to have. Let’s not forget Allan wasn’t at the top of his game for parts of the season, if Mallan was fit he could have came in and took him out the team.

Great player but just needs to be managed correctly which I think Ross will do.

[Stuart93]

I can’t believe anyone would want Mallan to leave. He would start for most teams in the league and would be a player we would be desperate to have if he was playing elsewhere.

If he get utilised correctly he’s a great option to have. Let’s not forget Allan wasn’t at the top of his game for parts of the season, if Mallan was fit he could have came in and took him out the team.

Great player but just needs to be managed correctly which I think Ross will do.

It’s funny because watching Scott Allan last season he was so frustrating but then you look at his stats and they were very decent

[we are hibs]

If a bid came in for Mallan we should bite the other teams hand off imo

[B.H.F.C]

I can’t believe anyone would want Mallan to leave. He would start for most teams in the league and would be a player we would be desperate to have if he was playing elsewhere.

If he get utilised correctly he’s a great option to have. Let’s not forget Allan wasn’t at the top of his game for parts of the season, if Mallan was fit he could have came in and took him out the team.

Great player but just needs to be managed correctly which I think Ross will do.

When Ross first came in, Mallan was coming off the bench and doing well.

Use him in the right position and he’s a good player. Don’t ask him to play on the right wing or as a holding midfielder.

Only room for one of him or Allan in the team but, as you say, Allan isn’t always going to be at the top of his game and regularly comes off in games as well.

[badabing67]

Punting horgan for mikel miller would be depressingly shan business. Horgan’s one of our best players imo. Wasn’t at it for much of last season but he’s got bags of ability, we’d be crazy to let him go.

You have to be kidding Horgan is not one of our best players. He is best starting from the bench imo. He can't play centre mid he drifts in and out of games when he starts and usually looks shattered after 60 mins. I think he is an ok squad player. Definitely not one of our best, after all he is a left sided winger and that is an area we need to improve. Think Mikel Miller offers more than Horgan does.

[MWHIBBIES]

He was fans and players player of the year the season before last. There's a lot I would want rid of before Stevie Mallan.

Thing is, he got it by default after a good start. Scott Allan has had a better season this year than Mallan did in 2018/19 and folk saying things like ''apart from the odd moment'' and ''not his best'' but Mallan was POTY? No way.

Apart from that good Start, Mallan has been pretty gash for Hibs.

[Keyser Sauzee]

I can’t believe anyone would want Mallan to leave. He would start for most teams in the league and would be a player we would be desperate to have if he was playing elsewhere.

If he get utilised correctly he’s a great option to have. Let’s not forget Allan wasn’t at the top of his game for parts of the season, if Mallan was fit he could have came in and took him out the team.

Great player but just needs to be managed correctly which I think Ross will do.

Allan wasn’t at his best this season but he still contributed to around 20 goals, Mallan didn’t get near that in his best season for us.

[B.H.F.C]

Allan wasn’t at his best this season but he still contributed to around 20 goals, Mallan didn’t get near that in his best season for us.

Aye he did in his first season, quite comfortably. And that was spending a lot of time playing deeper etc.

[badabing67]

Could we not sell Mallan , get a few Bob and free up a midfield space.

I think Jack Ross really likes Mallan so I think he will be part of his plans for next season. Plus Scottie has diabetes making him more vulnerable to covid, so I think it would be prudent to keep Mallan.

[Keyser Sauzee]

Aye he did in his first season, quite comfortably. And that was spending a lot of time playing deeper etc.

I’ll take ur word for it on his first season, where did u get the stats if I may ask?

[badabing67]

Thing is, he got it by default after a good start. Scott Allan has had a better season this year than Mallan did in 2018/19 and folk saying things like ''apart from the odd moment'' and ''not his best'' but Mallan was POTY? No way.

Apart from that good Start, Mallan has been pretty gash for Hibs.

He only got it cause Efe left, can't believe we didn't sign him back up in January

[B.H.F.C]

I’ll take ur word for it on his first season, where did u get the stats if I may ask?

Hadn’t actually checked before I posted that, just knew he had a fair number of goals and assists in his first season.

Having checked on Transfer Market that I wasn’t imagining it, he had 13 goals and 11 assists in 48 games in 2018/19.

[HendoDelivered]

Jackson Irvine released from Hull... would take him in a heartbeat.

[Heisenberg]

Jackson Irvine released from Hull... would take him in a heartbeat.

Very good player, sure he won’t be short of offers down south.

[Unseen work]

Jackson Irvine would be a fantastic signing for us however I imagine has much better offers financially, quite a few championship teams would take him I assume.

Could you imagine the difference someone like him and Gogic would add to our midfield, would completely transform it and all of a sudden we wouldn’t get bullied and would really start dominating games.

[04Sauzee]

Jackson Irvine would be a fantastic signing for us however I imagine has much better offers financially, quite a few championship teams would take him I assume.

Could you imagine the difference someone like him and Gogic would add to our midfield, would completely transform it and all of a sudden we wouldn’t get bullied and would really start dominating games.

He'd be a fantastic signing, I'd be extremely surprised if Hibs could afford half his wages, but must have been on a decent wedge? And even with the current situation I'm sure he'd pick up more wages down south?

[HendoDelivered]

St Mirren sign keeper Jack Alnwick. Decent signing for them. If Rocky goes, I’d take Hladky.

[Unseen work]

He'd be a fantastic signing, I'd be extremely surprised if Hibs could afford half his wages, but must have been on a decent wedge? And even with the current situation I'm sure he'd pick up more wages down south?

Yeah I think we would be miles off it tbf, especially with the current climate. I think a decent championship team or even Rangers would go for him.

The other released player from Hull that I would like to see us go for is Stephen Kingsley. However wth money tight I can see us sticking with Lewy and Mackie for now and prioritising other positions.