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Robbo6-2
28-09-2020, 08:34 PM
Another transfer saga played out in public by the so called selling club.
Feel for Hibs on this one, cant see this going thru now and it will give more ammunition to the haters
bingo70
28-09-2020, 08:34 PM
https://youtu.be/SYwNHlSh05w
You tune reels aren’t always the most reliable when judging a player but gives an indication of what type of player he is.
Robbo6-2
28-09-2020, 08:40 PM
https://youtu.be/SYwNHlSh05w
You tune reels aren’t always the most reliable when judging a player but gives an indication of what type of player he is.
My god that is a stinker of a reel
Mind you Hallberg looked like Bruno Fernades in his
Winston Ingram
28-09-2020, 08:41 PM
He's not a winger is he?
He played wide right all last season for St Mirren before his injury
04Sauzee
28-09-2020, 08:41 PM
https://youtu.be/SYwNHlSh05w
You tune reels aren’t always the most reliable when judging a player but gives an indication of what type of player he is.
Not much to go on, few good free kicks and looks like he plays of the right
Smartie
28-09-2020, 08:46 PM
My god that is a stinker of a reel
Mind you Hallberg looked like Bruno Fernades in his
I take it the lump up the park then heavy tackle against Morton at 1:12 was to invite interest from Hearts?
Give everyone a bit of what they want.
Unseen work
28-09-2020, 08:47 PM
https://youtu.be/SYwNHlSh05w
You tune reels aren’t always the most reliable when judging a player but gives an indication of what type of player he is.
That McGinn lad looks a player, we should be signing him :greengrin
In all seriousness Magennis would be a good signing imo but like I said he’s had a couple of bad injuries over the last 2-3 seasons.
Think he’s most suited to playing on the right of a midfield 3 in a 433 type formation. He gets up and down the park, good on the ball and has plenty drive.
Magennis has also bulked up quite significantly over the past couple of years, especially from those videos.
Bare in mind Mcgeouch first came to us as a player that “plays on the right”.
Newell was a left winger.
Gogic went to Hamilton as a centre back.
etc etc
St Mirren releasing a statement is very odd though and it would be silly for them to do that and then sell him.
Borderhibbie76
28-09-2020, 08:49 PM
I hope we have a back up plan as this looks like the McCrorie saga all over again...hope not
Hibby Kay-Yay
28-09-2020, 08:54 PM
Rocky
McGinn Porto Hanlon Doig
Magennis Gogic Newell
Boyle Doidge Nisbet
Unseen work
28-09-2020, 08:58 PM
I wonder if St Mirren are scared they wouldn’t be able to replace him with the money received and might be angling more for a player swap......someone like Mallan.
Personally I don’t want to lose Mallan and would prefer we offered the money with a decent sell on fee.
Also wouldn’t be surprised if Magennis has a word with Goodwin/the board and this ends up going through.
04Sauzee
28-09-2020, 08:59 PM
Looking at this hes played more at RM in the premiership and more of a CM in the Championship under Jack Ross. Wonder where he fits into the team
https://www.transfermarkt.com/kyle-magennis/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/399258
Brightside
28-09-2020, 09:02 PM
Rocky
McGinn Porto Hanlon Doig
Magennis Gogic Newell
Boyle Doidge Nisbet
lots to like about that.
H18 SFR
28-09-2020, 09:02 PM
It’s been discussed on here regularly that to get him to sign the new deal we had to insert a buyout clause of £1.5m. He’s started the season very well and would be a bargain for anyone.
I missed this when it was discussed but then I’ve not been as active on the forum recently.
MrRobot
28-09-2020, 09:03 PM
I’m happy to leave that to Hibs. You were endorsing walking away now.
We don’t even know how much a substantial offer is
MrRobot
28-09-2020, 09:04 PM
First time I’ve seen that on here.
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Probably because it’s the first time it’s been posted :greengrin
Smartie
28-09-2020, 09:09 PM
I hope we have a back up plan as this looks like the McCrorie saga all over again...hope not
I can just see Dave Cormack up there in Aberdeen, wearing the new fur coat and crown he got with the McKenna money, weighing up whether or not he should just f*** with us because he can.
SMAXXA
28-09-2020, 09:11 PM
Will also depend on what the player wants to do?
Wants to come to hibs
SMAXXA
28-09-2020, 09:12 PM
Hibs should look elsewhere and put a statement out saying no longer interested.
That’s not the way it works
Alex Trager
28-09-2020, 09:13 PM
Wants to come to hibs
Where have you read that
SMAXXA
28-09-2020, 09:15 PM
It’s been discussed on here regularly that to get him to sign the new deal we had to insert a buyout clause of £1.5m. He’s started the season very well and would be a bargain for anyone.
Rubbish
SMAXXA
28-09-2020, 09:15 PM
Where have you read that
I read it on here after i posted it 😂
Unseen work
28-09-2020, 09:16 PM
From reading the St Mirren fans forum its pretty much what I expected;
Lots of potential if he can stay fit
Injuries an issue as he’s had a couple
Best season was playing central as a box to box midfielder under Ross
They seem raging at the thought of losing another young player for next to nothing ala McGinn and McLean.
Also raging at the thought of Ross signing another one of their players.
B.H.F.C
28-09-2020, 09:17 PM
Looking at this hes played more at RM in the premiership and more of a CM in the Championship under Jack Ross. Wonder where he fits into the team
https://www.transfermarkt.com/kyle-magennis/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/399258
Would say to me that Ross is looking to play him in the middle of the park. The only position he’s specifically mentioned, as wanting, is a central midfielder. I can’t see a significant amount of money being spent on anything else.
CMurdoch
28-09-2020, 09:22 PM
From reading the St Mirren fans forum its pretty much what I expected;
Lots of potential if he can stay fit
Injuries an issue as he’s had a couple
Best season was playing central as a box to box midfielder under Ross
They seem raging at the thought of losing another young player for next to nothing ala McGinn and McLean.
Also raging at the thought of Ross signing another one of their players.
His injuries give me the fear
04Sauzee
28-09-2020, 09:22 PM
From reading the St Mirren fans forum its pretty much what I expected;
Lots of potential if he can stay fit
Injuries an issue as he’s had a couple
Best season was playing central as a box to box midfielder under Ross
They seem raging at the thought of losing another young player for next to nothing ala McGinn and McLean.
Also raging at the thought of Ross signing another one of their players.
He's had a fair bit of time out for a young boy
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/kyle-magennis/verletzungen/spieler/399258
Brightside
28-09-2020, 09:24 PM
Its not even a 6 figure offer.
SMAXXA
28-09-2020, 09:26 PM
His injuries give me the fear
See Boyle and Porteous and relax 😂😜
04Sauzee
28-09-2020, 09:29 PM
Its not even a 6 figure offer.
3 bids under 6 figures ? Substantial?
SouthMoroccoStu
28-09-2020, 09:32 PM
3 bids under 6 figures ? Substantial?
St Mirren fans seem to think the offer is £500k
bigwheel
28-09-2020, 09:33 PM
3 bids under 6 figures ? Substantial?
Yeah. Doesn’t stack up that ..would rightly be being dismissed as “disrespectful “ if they were that low for their top talent ...
hibee-boys
28-09-2020, 09:35 PM
St Mirren fans seem to think the offer is £500k
Aye, in Tony Fitzpatricks dreams maybe. No danger it is anywhere near that amount. The guys got 1 under 21 cap, hardly played this year and can sign a pre contract in 3 months. If its anymore than half that I'd be surprised.
skyehibee
28-09-2020, 09:37 PM
Daily record reporting we are after Alan Campbell at Motherwell too.
madhatter
28-09-2020, 09:39 PM
Daily record reporting we are after Alan Campbell at Motherwell too.
Now that would be some signing.
SaulGoodman
28-09-2020, 09:40 PM
RUMOURS :hyper
HendoDelivered
28-09-2020, 09:40 PM
Daily record reporting we are after Alan Campbell at Motherwell too.
Now this is the midfielder Hibs need
CmoantheHibs
28-09-2020, 09:41 PM
This is what a rumour thread is all about:hyper:hyper
bigwheel
28-09-2020, 09:45 PM
Daily record reporting we are after Alan Campbell at Motherwell too.
15 pages added to this thread right there.....[emoji3][emoji122]
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Stuart93
28-09-2020, 09:47 PM
If we canny afford Magennis can’t see us getting Campbell unfortunately
BoomtownHibees
28-09-2020, 09:48 PM
If we canny afford Magennis can’t see us getting Campbell unfortunately
Maybe we value Campbell more
Stuart93
28-09-2020, 09:50 PM
Maybe we value Campbell more
Potentially but I reckon Motherwell don’t sell for less than £1m like how we felt about Boyle before he signed his new contract.
Just can’t see ya affording the boy at all. Would be a massive surprise.
madhatter
28-09-2020, 09:50 PM
If we canny afford Magennis can’t see us getting Campbell unfortunately
We’re going for both!
Spike Mandela
28-09-2020, 09:51 PM
Daily record reporting we are after Alan Campbell at Motherwell too.
Newspaper reports of Hibs signing interests is purely agents advertising their players to attract interest from others.
Hibs do not comment on players they are interested in.
Surely nobody is falling for that **** anymore.
Stuart93
28-09-2020, 09:54 PM
If you actually read the article, the headline is totally misleading
SMAXXA
28-09-2020, 09:54 PM
Newspaper reports of Hibs signing interests is purely agents advertising their players to attract interest from others.
Hibs do not comment on players they are interested in.
Surely nobody is falling for that **** anymore.
Hibs don’t comment but we can’t control players Targeted and clubs doing so
04Sauzee
28-09-2020, 09:54 PM
Daily record reporting we are after Alan Campbell at Motherwell too.
Have motherwell released a statement yet 👀
tamig
28-09-2020, 09:56 PM
Its not even a 6 figure offer.
How would you know? You come out with some dross when figures are being speculated on.
Spike Mandela
28-09-2020, 09:56 PM
Hibs don’t comment but we can’t control players Targeted and clubs doing so
No they can’t and once rumoured interest in a player hits the papers like this the likelihood is that player will be going elsewhere.
Stuart93
28-09-2020, 09:59 PM
Its not even a 6 figure offer.
Na not having that. We wouldn’t waste their time
bingo70
28-09-2020, 10:00 PM
If you actually read the article, the headline is totally misleading
Correct.
We would like him but probably can’t afford him as other bigger clubs likely to want him as well.
Nonsense story, even though it’s patently obvious we would want him if we could get him.
Vault Boy
28-09-2020, 10:00 PM
Burns says in the Campbell article we'd likely offer around £200k for him now, but Motherwell are unlikely to sell. No surprises there to be fair. Campbell and Magennis both fit an excellent and ambitious transfer policy, fingers crossed we can actually secure one of them or someone of a similar ilk, though.
Stuart93
28-09-2020, 10:18 PM
Burns says in the Campbell article we'd likely offer around £200k for him now, but Motherwell are unlikely to sell. No surprises there to be fair. Campbell and Magennis both fit an excellent and ambitious transfer policy, fingers crossed we can actually secure one of them or someone of a similar ilk, though.
If we don’t secure either I think we’re running out of time to find players that are similar. Need to try get something over the line
Unseen work
28-09-2020, 10:19 PM
No matter how much we’re linked with Campbell I can’t ever see us getting him.
His stock is simply too high imo. Motherwell would want 1 million for him even with only a year left on his deal and I think he will be aiming for a bigger club.
Even if we were in with a shout on a pre contract in January Aberdeen would nip in ahead of us as McInnes is a huge fan and be able to offer more money. Even though they’ve a lot of midfielders they would ship some out to get him in.
Hes a very good player though, especially at this level.
Glad to see 2 rumours in one night though!
Heisenberg
28-09-2020, 10:22 PM
There’s no chance we get Campbell.
If Motherwell are going to get a better deal than we could offer for Campbell they are going to need either the old firm, Aberdeen or a English championship club to come in for him. I’ve seen a lot of talk about him being a good player but no clubs at that level expressing an interest in signing him so far
MWHIBBIES
28-09-2020, 10:30 PM
There’s no chance we get Campbell.
We wouldn't go for him if we didn't know there was a chance. I don't think we'd be making random offers without talking to agents etc.
CMurdoch
28-09-2020, 10:56 PM
There’s no chance we get Campbell.
Absolutely no chance.
Could see him signing a pre-contract with Celtic. Would be a good and very cheap replacement for Scott Brown.
Failing that he will be English Championship bound.
Haymaker
28-09-2020, 11:20 PM
:hyper
Stuart93
28-09-2020, 11:20 PM
Aye very unlikely
SteveHFC
29-09-2020, 12:19 AM
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=414217896639846&extid=Hq86MARd5XOmh9Ch
JimBHibees
29-09-2020, 05:46 AM
If we canny afford Magennis can’t see us getting Campbell unfortunately
If we don't get MacGennis probably not a case of not being able to afford him as much as we will have a value we won't want to go above.
green day
29-09-2020, 06:08 AM
Absolutely no chance.
Could see him signing a pre-contract with Celtic. Would be a good and very cheap replacement for Scott Brown.
Failing that he will be English Championship bound.
His development fee will still be payable if he moves at the end of the season - maybe £500k?
Brightside
29-09-2020, 06:09 AM
How would you know? You come out with some dross when figures are being speculated on.
That’s very rude.
Alex Trager
29-09-2020, 06:10 AM
Imagine if we ended up with both Campbell and Macgennis.
The rugby and golf writers would explode!
Alex Trager
29-09-2020, 06:10 AM
That’s very rude.
Care to share how you know?
tonyrougier123
29-09-2020, 06:17 AM
I think Alan Campbell has been hot and cold at Motherwell,he’s good But I canny see any team spending more than 400k on a player at well out of contract next summer.motherwell will be able to offer him a good new deal based on dealings they have done recently,tad inconsistent for me but could be a good signing.a lot of fawning on here over the player though,reminds me of the Stevie Mallan talk.
Brightside
29-09-2020, 06:20 AM
Care to share how you know?
No.
Stuart93
29-09-2020, 06:20 AM
I think Alan Campbell has been hot and cold at Motherwell,he’s good But I canny see any team spending more than 400k on a player at well out of contract next summer.motherwell will be able to offer him a good new deal based on dealings they have done recently,tad inconsistent for me but could be a good signing.a lot of fawning on here over the player though,reminds me of the Stevie Mallan talk.
Campbell’s are great player, i’d say he’s hot most weeks & probably Motherwells best player.
Unfortunately I think he’ll move on to bigger and better things than us.
Greenworld
29-09-2020, 06:56 AM
No matter how much we’re linked with Campbell I can’t ever see us getting him.
His stock is simply too high imo. Motherwell would want 1 million for him even with only a year left on his deal and I think he will be aiming for a bigger club.
Even if we were in with a shout on a pre contract in January Aberdeen would nip in ahead of us as McInnes is a huge fan and be able to offer more money. Even though they’ve a lot of midfielders they would ship some out to get him in.
Hes a very good player though, especially at this level.
Glad to see 2 rumours in one night though!He would make a difference LD is well connected obviously i agree we would need to push the boat out but o think some are pricing him way to high. Only days to go and he leaves for free in december it a tough call .
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Heisenberg
29-09-2020, 06:58 AM
He would make a difference LD is well connected obviously i agree we would need to push the boat out but o think some are pricing him way to high. Only days to go and he leaves for free in december it a tough call .
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He’s not on a free if he signs a pre contract. Training compensation would probably be upwards of 500k because of his age and how long he’s been at Motherwell.
04Sauzee
29-09-2020, 06:59 AM
He would make a difference LD is well connected obviously i agree we would need to push the boat out but o think some are pricing him way to high. Only days to go and he leaves for free in december it a tough call .
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Any ideas what the development fee would be. Motherwell fans reckon it could be 500k so would be nore than willing to get a season out of him then pick up a development fee. Not sure how these things are calculated.
Billy Whizz
29-09-2020, 07:02 AM
He’s not on a free if he signs a pre contract. Training compensation would probably be upwards of 500k because of his age and how long he’s been at Motherwell.
Think Cadden’s would have been around £230,000, if he’d gone straight to Oxford, rather than via Columbas Crew
Ozyhibby
29-09-2020, 07:02 AM
Any ideas what the development fee would be. Motherwell fans reckon it could be 500k so would be nore than willing to get a season out of him then pick up a development fee. Not sure how these things are calculated.
If he moves out of Scotland there will be no development fee at all. Motherwell have a decision to make.
Actually there will be a small fee under fifa compensation but it’s a lot lower than the SFA scheme. And it has to be shared with the players boys clubs etc.
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neil7908
29-09-2020, 07:04 AM
Campbell would be an unbelievable signing but just can't see it.
Would also be very happy with Magennis but his injury situation is a bit of a worry
bingo70
29-09-2020, 07:05 AM
Think Cadden’s would have been around £230,000, if he’d gone straight to Oxford, rather than via Columbas Crew
If we’re getting a link up with an American side wonder if we would consider doing something similar (or threatening them with it during negotiations)
04Sauzee
29-09-2020, 07:05 AM
If he moves out of Scotland there will be no development fee at all. Motherwell have a decision to make.
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No development fee if it's cross border? Are you sure?
Ozyhibby
29-09-2020, 07:07 AM
No development fee if it's cross border? Are you sure?
Just edited my post. There is a Fifa compensation scheme but it’s a lot less.
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04Sauzee
29-09-2020, 07:11 AM
Just edited my post. There is a Fifa compensation scheme but it’s a lot less.
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No worries i wasn't 100% sure myself
Souter96Mac
29-09-2020, 07:12 AM
Would be happy with Magennis as he looks like he would fit the bill of what were looking for.
Would be absolutely delighted if we got Campbell. Would instantly become one of our key players. Like Magennis, he's on his last year so it's possible, however his value will be a lot higher and with a lot more suitors involved.
04Sauzee
29-09-2020, 07:17 AM
For those who have seen Campbell and Magennis play and imagine in a very strange world we were to sign them both and they were fit to play. Assuming nobody left the club which again would be highly doubtful. Where do they fit in and how would we set up?
Since452
29-09-2020, 07:17 AM
Beyond delighted with the kind of players we're trying to sign (and have signed). Very encouraging. Just a pitty they seem to be so public. I'm used to Hibs doing things quietly. Not blaming Hibs for that by the way.
Billy Whizz
29-09-2020, 07:20 AM
For those who have seen Campbell and Magennis play and imagine in a very strange world we were to sign them both and they were fit to play. Assuming nobody left the club which again would be highly doubtful. Where do they fit in and how would we set up?
It’s called competition for places, can’t have too many good players
Also great we are targeting young Scottish players, who we can develop further, and possibly sell on for big fees
Brightside
29-09-2020, 07:22 AM
For those who have seen Campbell and Magennis play and imagine in a very strange world we were to sign them both and they were fit to play. Assuming nobody left the club which again would be highly doubtful. Where do they fit in and how would we set up?
Both are right sided midfielders. I don’t think for a second we are after both.
04Sauzee
29-09-2020, 07:27 AM
It’s called competition for places, can’t have too many good players
Also great we are targeting young Scottish players, who we can develop further, and possibly sell on for big fees
Im absolutely for competition and that's rhe kind of signings we should be after, young hungry talented players who if are developed correctly could take us to the next level and make us money down the line. I'm just wondering what our team would look like.
Juniper Greens
29-09-2020, 07:30 AM
No worries i wasn't 100% sure myself
The FIFA system is the one we use too. The loophole was that at the time MLS clubs were seen as a lower category. I think this has now been ammended.
If Hibs signed a player developed at Motherwell, we would be due them 60k euros for every year between the ages of 12-21 he was there. So £500k probably isn't far off
RitchieHibs
29-09-2020, 07:44 AM
Both are right sided midfielders. I don’t think for a second we are after both.
Yep, no chance. We know that the club have put in a substantial offer for Magennis. He's the one we're after. If we do get him I'd imagine that would just about end our transfer business barring injuries of course.
H18 SFR
29-09-2020, 07:53 AM
I am really enjoying the ambition the club is showing going after the St Mirren Captain and Campbell at Motherwell.
Juniper Greens
29-09-2020, 07:55 AM
I am really enjoying the ambition the club is showing going after the St Mirren Captain and Campbell at Motherwell.
Having already snapped up their captain before him...
H18 SFR
29-09-2020, 07:57 AM
Having already snapped up their captain before him...
Exactly!
lucky
29-09-2020, 08:03 AM
St.Mirren are clearly keen to sell Magennis, if they weren’t why would they go public? Sky were reporting Aberdeen are also interested. St Mirren trying to create a bidding war which normally means we lose out
The Modfather
29-09-2020, 08:08 AM
If we’re getting a link up with an American side wonder if we would consider doing something similar (or threatening them with it during negotiations)
Wouldn’t be something I’d like to see us do if it was an option. Also a bit short sighted as how keen would Motherwell be to do business with us in the future. They’ve developed a cracking player and deserve whatever they can get for him, would be poor to use loopholes to try and do them out of money IMO.
bingo70
29-09-2020, 08:10 AM
Wouldn’t be something I’d like to see us do if it was an option. Also a bit short sighted as how keen would Motherwell be to do business with us in the future. They’ve developed a cracking player and deserve whatever they can get for him, would be poor to use loopholes to try and do them out of money IMO.
I agree actually.
Got a bit carried away there thinking about the American club tie up we are possibly doing.
Would be wrong to rob the Well of the green pound.
MWHIBBIES
29-09-2020, 08:11 AM
Hopefully, if we do miss out on Kyle Magennis, it is by more than we're paying Stephen McGinn :cb
Brightside
29-09-2020, 08:13 AM
Hopefully, if we do miss out on Kyle Magennis, it is by more than we're paying Stephen McGinn :cb
Or maybe that was part of the cunning plan to get Magennis in.
H18 SFR
29-09-2020, 08:32 AM
Or maybe that was part of the cunning plan to get Magennis in.
Carsharing?
Brightside
29-09-2020, 08:42 AM
Carsharing?
:greengrin i think they are good pals tbh. Will make a difference for sure. We just need to get St Mirren to accept the offer.
Ronniekirk
29-09-2020, 08:46 AM
Think this is Ron trying to be clever. Strengthen at a difficult time should in theory bring you out the other end ahead rather than behind. The squad is tiny and 1-2 quality signings should make top 4 finish much more likely.
I wouldn’t get caught over paying for Magennis though. There are other options and no point being held to ransom.
If other options would we not be pursuing those first
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Scottie
29-09-2020, 08:50 AM
Never used to hear about transfer rumours with us until it was over the line or dead in the water. Don’t know what’s changed :dunno:
EI255
29-09-2020, 08:52 AM
Queue Derek McInnes on the phone to St Mirren
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EI255
29-09-2020, 08:53 AM
“Substantial offer”
https://www.stmirren.com/all-news/3779-st-mirren-football-club-can-confirm-it-has-rejected-a-substantial-offer-for-kyle-magennis-from-hibernian-football-club
Doesn’t look like he’s leaving.Money talks. Yes, that's a statement from SMFC, but can they REALLY afford to turn down an increased bid?
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Ronniekirk
29-09-2020, 08:54 AM
St.Mirren are clearly keen to sell Magennis, if they weren’t why would they go public? Sky were reporting Aberdeen are also interested. St Mirren trying to create a bidding war which normally means we lose out
We won’t here anything public from Aberdeen unless a deal is done
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Never used to hear about transfer rumours with us until it was over the line or dead in the water. Don’t know what’s changed :dunno:
The selling clubs.
Rangers & SG were the ones to make our McRorie interest public and now St Mirren are making statements naming us
GloryGlory
29-09-2020, 09:05 AM
Never used to hear about transfer rumours with us until it was over the line or dead in the water. Don’t know what’s changed :dunno:
Selling club generating a bidding war. If they aren't interested in selling they wouldn't make public that they had received a bid.
Newspaper reports of Hibs signing interests is purely agents advertising their players to attract interest from others.
Hibs do not comment on players they are interested in.
Surely nobody is falling for that **** anymore.
Correct
Just_Jimmy
29-09-2020, 09:18 AM
Campbell’s are great player, i’d say he’s hot most weeks & probably Motherwells best player.
Unfortunately I think he’ll move on to bigger and better things than us.maybe bigger...no such thing as better than Hibs.
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hibee316
29-09-2020, 09:18 AM
Will both be good signings for Aberdeen....
;)
maybe bigger...no such thing as better than Hibs.
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Is it crazy to suggest Hallberg or Mallan as part of any deal for Magennis or Campbell?
Wouldn’t be something I’d like to see us do if it was an option. Also a bit short sighted as how keen would Motherwell be to do business with us in the future. They’ve developed a cracking player and deserve whatever they can get for him, would be poor to use loopholes to try and do them out of money IMO.
I agree, but St M must be aware that there's a loophole that less scrupulous clubs could use. I think they're hoping to create a bidding war but not sure that will happen. The Campbell story strikes me as a red herring, a scoop from the Fishman at last, designed to let St M know we have other options. Hibs have an excellent reputation for being honest & straightforward in transfer dealings, I hope that stands us in good stead this time round. Re Magennis, he fits exactly the profile of players we're after but personally Cammy MacPherson has always been the young St M player who has caught my eye.
jeffers
29-09-2020, 09:46 AM
Is it crazy to suggest Hallberg or Mallan as part of any deal for Magennis or Campbell?
I was thinking the same thing. One has been a major disappointment, the other has some great qualities but not sure they outweigh his deficiencies.
Both are right sided midfielders. I don’t think for a second we are after both.
I think we've bid for one and inquired about the availability of the other.
04Sauzee
29-09-2020, 10:38 AM
Both are right sided midfielders. I don’t think for a second we are after both.
Allan Campbell is a central Midfield player, maybe he can play on the right but that's not where he's played
Queue Derek McInnes on the phone to St Mirren
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Ross getting a taste of his own medicine, did the same to us when he was at Sunderland. 😂
bringbackbenny
29-09-2020, 10:43 AM
Re Magennis, he fits exactly the profile of players we're after but personally Cammy MacPherson has always been the young St M player who has caught my eye.
Agree, re Cammy MacPherson he looked really sharp against us last season at ER
Juniper Greens
29-09-2020, 10:54 AM
I agree, but St M must be aware that there's a loophole that less scrupulous clubs could use. I think they're hoping to create a bidding war but not sure that will happen. The Campbell story strikes me as a red herring, a scoop from the Fishman at last, designed to let St M know we have other options. Hibs have an excellent reputation for being honest & straightforward in transfer dealings, I hope that stands us in good stead this time round. Re Magennis, he fits exactly the profile of players we're after but personally Cammy MacPherson has always been the young St M player who has caught my eye.
The loophole has now been closed. MLS clubs pay the same compensation that SPFL Premiership clubs do
Fergos
29-09-2020, 11:06 AM
Wouldn’t be something I’d like to see us do if it was an option. Also a bit short sighted as how keen would Motherwell be to do business with us in the future. They’ve developed a cracking player and deserve whatever they can get for him, would be poor to use loopholes to try and do them out of money IMO.
Spot on. Our business bound be done in a professional and respectful manner, as we tend to do. Not like some others......
GGTTH
JimBHibees
29-09-2020, 11:21 AM
Selling club generating a bidding war. If they aren't interested in selling they wouldn't make public that they had received a bid.
Yep they would just say no.
JimBHibees
29-09-2020, 11:28 AM
Agree, re Cammy MacPherson he looked really sharp against us last season at ER
Agree thought he was good too and really surprised he doesn't seem to be starting at the moment. Maybe an injury or fall out with Goodwin.
04Sauzee
29-09-2020, 11:29 AM
Seen this on a sheffield wednesday account
#swfc linked with £1m striker Ross Stewart! The 24-year-old striker, at Ross County, has scored 41 goals in 125 games in his career so far, but especially impressed last season when he got 11 goals and three assists in the Scottish Premiership and League Cup. Thoughts?
Brightside
29-09-2020, 11:30 AM
Allan Campbell is a central Midfield player, maybe he can play on the right but that's not where he's played
He would play on the right of a 3 man midfield
Unseen work
29-09-2020, 11:47 AM
Ross county rejected a 300k bid with significant add ons for Ross Stewart and are wanting 1 million.
Be surprised if they get anywhere near that.
Oscar T Grouch
29-09-2020, 12:25 PM
I'm not sure I have heard of compensation of £500K for a young Scottish player before, I think the max I can remember was around £300k. As the enlightening interview with Mathie showed us, there is more than one way to sign a player we want, it isn't always cash that is the most attractive option for a club. I would prefer Campbell to Magennis but either would be a good signing. As for St Mirren's tweet about a substantial offer, this could still be pretty low in the scheme for things, player with under a year left on his contract, at St Mirren so not on a huge wage, free to sign a pre contract in a few months time, I would imagine a substantial offer would be around £100k.
Unseen work
29-09-2020, 12:30 PM
Having read the Motherwell fans forum for their opinion on Campbell I’m surprised to see a couple describing him as slow, albeit incredible fitness levels and able to keep going the full game even if it is one paced.
Ive seen him on numerous occasions and he never struck me as slow.
Id take him 100% though and he’s the sort of signing that would walk into our team and make us significantly better. He seems to have added goals to his game lately too and is getting in and around the box more.
Magennis I also like and think he would be a decent addition although might not make the initial impact that Campbell would. Also slightly different players mind you.
Juniper Greens
29-09-2020, 12:35 PM
I'm not sure I have heard of compensation of £500K for a young Scottish player before, I think the max I can remember was around £300k. As the enlightening interview with Mathie showed us, there is more than one way to sign a player we want, it isn't always cash that is the most attractive option for a club. I would prefer Campbell to Magennis but either would be a good signing. As for St Mirren's tweet about a substantial offer, this could still be pretty low in the scheme for things, player with under a year left on his contract, at St Mirren so not on a huge wage, free to sign a pre contract in a few months time, I would imagine a substantial offer would be around £100k.
Might seem high, but it's correct. SPFL Premiership clubs are counted as Category 2. This page describes both development fees and solidarity payments very well.
https://www.parsalaw.com/fifa-player-transfers
CMac1988
29-09-2020, 12:38 PM
Ross county rejected a 300k bid with significant add ons for Ross Stewart and are wanting 1 million.
Be surprised if they get anywhere near that.
A little surprising? Perhaps, but they're entitled to ask for more in this day and age. They'll argue he's worth more than the offer received over the remainder of his contract which a quick check suggests is up next year. They'll see his goals as a possible place or 2 in the league which would cover the bid. About time Scottish clubs started knocking back lowball offers.
A little surprising? Perhaps, but they're entitled to ask for more in this day and age. They'll argue he's worth more than the offer received over the remainder of his contract which a quick check suggests is up next year. They'll see his goals as a possible place or 2 in the league which would cover the bid. About time Scottish clubs started knocking back lowball offers.
I agree in principle but I suspect that before the end of this season RC would bite your hand off for £300k. They're really gambling on him progressing again this season & I don't see it. Good luck to them though.
Oscar T Grouch
29-09-2020, 12:45 PM
Might seem high, but it's correct. SPFL Premiership clubs are counted as Category 2. This page describes both development fees and solidarity payments very well.
https://www.parsalaw.com/fifa-player-transfers
Thanks for that, it is an article I had read before but couldn't find again. So about £480K for the years he's been there.
Hibby Kay-Yay
29-09-2020, 12:48 PM
Giving the lack of fans, I wonder how much we would get in the Scottish Cup, especially if we made it to the final?
Perhaps enough to go towards a chunk of any new incoming player(s)?
JimBHibees
29-09-2020, 12:50 PM
I'm not sure I have heard of compensation of £500K for a young Scottish player before, I think the max I can remember was around £300k. As the enlightening interview with Mathie showed us, there is more than one way to sign a player we want, it isn't always cash that is the most attractive option for a club. I would prefer Campbell to Magennis but either would be a good signing. As for St Mirren's tweet about a substantial offer, this could still be pretty low in the scheme for things, player with under a year left on his contract, at St Mirren so not on a huge wage, free to sign a pre contract in a few months time, I would imagine a substantial offer would be around £100k.
Would we not be due a development fee for MacGennis also?
Juniper Greens
29-09-2020, 12:54 PM
Thanks for that, it is an article I had read before but couldn't find again. So about £480K for the years he's been there.
Been there from the age of 10, so 10 years between the ages of 12 and 21.
So 600,000 Euros, which I think is about £550k.
This is the amount if it goes to tribunal, clubs can agree a deal outside of this (as we did with SJM)
What's interesting is that the developing clubs effectively maintain a 5% stake in the player for the rest of their career, with that being awarded for every single transfer after leaving, which is often the source of another .net arguement
Oscar T Grouch
29-09-2020, 01:02 PM
Would we not be due a development fee for MacGennis also?
Yeah looking at that article we would be due the same compo for both, from aged 12 to present, they're both 22 now, 10 years at £60K per year? £600K, I think that puts them both out of our price range. I am notorious for missing details on these sort of things so this could be totally false :greengrin
Stuart93
29-09-2020, 01:03 PM
I wonder who we move on to if we miss out on both magennis & Campbell. Under a week to go.
Greenworld
29-09-2020, 01:24 PM
No team in Scotland is paying these values outside of old firm. So an agreement can be reached.
If they move down south out of contract then whats the dev fees?
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04Sauzee
29-09-2020, 02:07 PM
Dundee have signed a young forward from Celtic on loan. Sure somebody on here had him linked with is a few months back.
We are delighted to announce the signing of Jonathan Afolabi from Celtic on a season long loan #thedee
➡️ https://t.co/OvMX3uvw2h https://t.co/MY5R0PArcl
weecounty hibby
29-09-2020, 02:09 PM
A strong Dundee, ICT and Dunfermline is just what we need in the championship. Would be good to see them as the top three
SHODAN
29-09-2020, 02:16 PM
A strong Dundee, ICT and Dunfermline is just what we need in the championship. Would be good to see them as the top three
And give them a bit of a confidence knock before the semi.
bingo70
29-09-2020, 02:19 PM
Dundee have signed a young forward from Celtic on loan. Sure somebody on here had him linked with is a few months back.
We are delighted to announce the signing of Jonathan Afolabi from Celtic on a season long loan #thedee
➡️ https://t.co/OvMX3uvw2h https://t.co/MY5R0PArcl
Hearts fans are spitting feathers about this. I couldn’t work out why but apparently it’s something to do with that vote that took place when Dundee changed their mind at the last minute.
Ignoring the three independent judges and two investigations from large reputable companies, apparently this loan is proof of wrong doing at that vote.
Absolutely bat **** crazy that lot, they’ve completely lost their mind.
Bostonhibby
29-09-2020, 02:31 PM
A strong Dundee, ICT and Dunfermline is just what we need in the championship. Would be good to see them as the top threeAye, but Hearts who are in a stronger position than everyone else to survive, well basically everything have just signed a freedom of contract star Andy Halliday, despite competition from no one at all despite his well publicised availability.
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Bostonhibby
29-09-2020, 02:33 PM
Hearts fans are spitting feathers about this. I couldn’t work out why but apparently it’s something to do with that vote that took place when Dundee changed their mind at the last minute.
Ignoring the three independent judges and two investigations from large reputable companies, apparently this loan is proof of wrong doing at that vote.
Absolutely bat **** crazy that lot, they’ve completely lost their mind.Makes you wonder if it's somehow influenced by the deal the wee team were gloating about over Hickey that seemed to deny celtc some money.[emoji16]
Cannae see it myself, what with Mrs doctor Budge and the golfer guy being so good at all these businessy type things.
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JimBHibees
29-09-2020, 03:14 PM
Hearts fans are spitting feathers about this. I couldn’t work out why but apparently it’s something to do with that vote that took place when Dundee changed their mind at the last minute.
Ignoring the three independent judges and two investigations from large reputable companies, apparently this loan is proof of wrong doing at that vote.
Absolutely bat **** crazy that lot, they’ve completely lost their mind.
The fact Strachan has a role at Dundee will also be a factor but that won't stop the conspiracy freaks howl at the moon. :greengrin
Alex Trager
29-09-2020, 03:21 PM
And give them a bit of a confidence knock before the semi.
Are they even going to start playing league games before the semi?
H18 SFR
29-09-2020, 03:25 PM
Are they even going to start playing league games before the semi?
They play a good 5 or so.
Edit - 5 indeed.
They play a good 5 or so.
Edit - 5 indeed.
Only two Championship games, both live on BBC Scotland btw: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54300493
Their other three games are League Cup, although two of those are against Championship teams.
Alex Trager
29-09-2020, 03:36 PM
They play a good 5 or so.
Edit - 5 indeed.
Ah so their league is going ahead then?
H18 SFR
29-09-2020, 03:39 PM
Ah so their league is going ahead then?
Apologies, I must have missed something here.
Edit - just googled it. I can’t see anything at all about their league not starting. I hope I’m not being dim?
Alex Trager
29-09-2020, 03:44 PM
Apologies, I must have missed something here.
Edit - just googled it. I can’t see anything at all about their league not starting. I hope I’m not being dim?
I was of the impression there was a chance it wouldn’t be going ahead.
Seems you’re right!
H18 SFR
29-09-2020, 03:46 PM
I was of the impression there was a chance it wouldn’t be going ahead.
Seems you’re right!
What would have stopped it? Further restrictions from the Government?
jeffers
29-09-2020, 03:59 PM
What would have stopped it? Further restrictions from the Government?
I thought there was chat about lower league clubs maybe being unable to as it was looking like there would be no fans for the foreseeable future and them banking on receiving some income from gate receipts.
Billy Whizz
29-09-2020, 04:03 PM
Only two Championship games, both live on BBC Scotland btw: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54300493
Their other three games are League Cup, although two of those are against Championship teams.
Are these on the BBC1, bbc Scotland channel, or Alba
Are these on the BBC1, bbc Scotland channel, or Alba
BBC Scotland channel. They've been showing Championship games at 7.05pm on Fridays for a few years but these ones are going to be at 7.45pm which means displacing the 9pm news programme that was pretty much the reason for the channel existing in the first place. Ah well, it's not as if there's anything else going on in the world that's more important than Hearts...
jacomo
29-09-2020, 05:08 PM
I wonder who we move on to if we miss out on both magennis & Campbell. Under a week to go.
Another McGinn. Not a brother but mad uncle McGinn.
Cue predictable meltdown from the usual suspects, who then go quiet when he turns out to be no bad at all.
Magpie
29-09-2020, 05:28 PM
Man Utd have €100 million bid for Sancho rejected.
Franck Stanton
29-09-2020, 05:42 PM
Hypothetical question: IF both Campbell& Mcgennis agreed deals with us but we could only sign one. Which would you choose ?
bigwheel
29-09-2020, 05:44 PM
Hypothetical question: IF both Campbell& Mcgennis agreed deals with us but we could only sign one. Which would you choose ?
I’d trust Jack Ross’s choice over mine ....
Stanton Spence
29-09-2020, 05:51 PM
Hypothetical question: IF both Campbell& Mcgennis agreed deals with us but we could only sign one. Which would you choose ?I think it would need to be Campbell for me. I've really only noticed him this season and kept an eye on how he was doing and he always seems to have a good game every week. I also don't know much about Kyle magennis but he's had a couple of bad injuries already in his career which would put me off. Plus I don't think I can handle us signing another player folk on here can't spell his bloody name, so far I've seen mcginnes mageniss and some other version [emoji12]
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The 90+2
29-09-2020, 05:53 PM
Hypothetical question: IF both Campbell& Mcgennis agreed deals with us but we could only sign one. Which would you choose ?
Campbell.
Since452
29-09-2020, 06:00 PM
What ever happened to Jordan Rhodes? Is he even in the Scotland squad these days?
JohnM1875
29-09-2020, 06:05 PM
Hypothetical question: IF both Campbell& Mcgennis agreed deals with us but we could only sign one. Which would you choose ?
Campbell for me. He's impressed me more than Magennis, who I also think is a very good player as well. Just worry about Magennis injury history.
Stuart93
29-09-2020, 06:06 PM
Hypothetical question: IF both Campbell& Mcgennis agreed deals with us but we could only sign one. Which would you choose ?
Campbell for me also
147lothian
29-09-2020, 06:13 PM
Will a bid go in for John McGinn? He looked back to his best yesterday against Fulham, thoughts please
Since452
29-09-2020, 06:15 PM
Will a bid go in for John McGinn? He looked back to his best yesterday against Fulham, thoughts please
I think this will be his last season at AV.
04Sauzee
29-09-2020, 06:16 PM
What ever happened to Jordan Rhodes? Is he even in the Scotland squad these days?
Lucky if he can get a game for Wednesday and with Paterson about to sign, game time will be even more limited
The 90+2
29-09-2020, 06:29 PM
Lucky if he can get a game for Wednesday and with Paterson about to sign, game time will be even more limited
Celtic supposedly want him. Maybe leaving LG available to move on?
Billy Whizz
29-09-2020, 06:56 PM
Celtic supposedly want him. Maybe leaving LG available to move on?
Paterson or Rhodes
CMurdoch
29-09-2020, 07:00 PM
I think it would need to be Campbell for me. I've really only noticed him this season and kept an eye on how he was doing and he always seems to have a good game every week. I also don't know much about Kyle magennis but he's had a couple of bad injuries already in his career which would put me off. Plus I don't think I can handle us signing another player folk on here can't spell his bloody name, so far I've seen mcginnes mageniss and some other version [emoji12]
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Never mind Magennis, most folk on here struggle to get Campbell's forename right.
Who the **** is Alan Campbell?
Leitherhibs
29-09-2020, 07:01 PM
Hypothetical question: IF both Campbell& Mcgennis agreed deals with us but we could only sign one. Which would you choose ?
Campbell. But based almost solely on the fact he’s not had any serious injuries, whereas Magennis has had 2 of them at 21. Doesn’t make him necessarily high risk though.
RitchieHibs
29-09-2020, 07:07 PM
Magennis for me. Purely because he is the more likely player we'll be signing after concrete bidding for him.
Robbo6-2
29-09-2020, 07:09 PM
I cant see us signing either tbh
Cat Stanton
29-09-2020, 07:13 PM
Celtic supposedly want him. Maybe leaving LG available to move on?
That's your cue, Haymaker.
147lothian
29-09-2020, 07:13 PM
I think this will be his last season at AV.
I hope your right from our point of view but he has been loyal to each club he's been at, he never requested a transfer from St Mirren or us, so it would take a big offer through the proper channels to prompt a move
Smartie
29-09-2020, 07:22 PM
I hope your right from our point of view but he has been loyal to each club he's been at, he never requested a transfer from St Mirren or us, so it would take a big offer through the proper channels to prompt a move
He might have a few clauses at Villa needing fulfilled yet (appearances, caps etc) so it might be in our interests for him to see all of them realised before moving on and earning us our big one.
Clarence
29-09-2020, 07:27 PM
I’d trust Jack Ross’s choice over mine ....
For him, the question is not a hypothetical one.
The 90+2
29-09-2020, 07:30 PM
Paterson or Rhodes
Rhodes.
PatHead
29-09-2020, 08:03 PM
What would have stopped it? Further restrictions from the Government?
Be interesting if the government do impose the school October lockdown. Obviously nothing to do with stalling the virus, just to annoy Hearts.
bingo70
29-09-2020, 08:03 PM
Darnell Johnson signs for Wigan.
Interesting to see how he gets on.
Dazzjw1875
29-09-2020, 08:47 PM
Strange after yesterday having 3 bids rejected and nothing today? Perhaps we have agreed now or Hibs have told then to ram it after making it public?
bigwheel
29-09-2020, 08:52 PM
For him, the question is not a hypothetical one.
It is really...we’ve not had a bid accepted for either .
04Sauzee
29-09-2020, 09:36 PM
Allan Campbell targeted by Aberdeen as Derek McInnes plots to gazump Hibs with pre-contract pitch | @ScottBurns75
https://t.co/jPLRmnAfzw https://t.co/peao39ehhW
Stuart93
29-09-2020, 09:38 PM
Allan Campbell targeted by Aberdeen as Derek McInnes plots to gazump Hibs with pre-contract pitch | @ScottBurns75
https://t.co/jPLRmnAfzw https://t.co/peao39ehhW
Hahaha Scott Burns...absolute prick.
He loves doing this. It was exactly the same with Scott Fraser that we were “after”
Break an exclusive that we’re supposedly after someone. Run with another story that another team are after him then paint the picture that we’re “losing out on yet another target”.
Heisenberg
29-09-2020, 09:41 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6102161/aberdeen-hibs-fight-motherwell-campbell/
Aberdeen will sign him if it comes to it. McInnes has already started the charm offensive and they’ve got money to play with.
04Sauzee
29-09-2020, 09:41 PM
The Sun
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AL FIGHT Aberdeen and Hibs to fight it out over Motherwell star Alan Campbell
Robert Thomson
22:30, 29 Sep 2020Updated: 22:37, 29 Sep 2020
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ABERDEEN are set to fight it out with Hibs once again — this time over Motherwell’s Allan Campbell.
SunSport understands the Dons are keen to sign the 22-year-old from under the nose of Hibees boss Jack Ross.
HendoDelivered
29-09-2020, 09:42 PM
Allan Campbell targeted by Aberdeen as Derek McInnes plots to gazump Hibs with pre-contract pitch | @ScottBurns75
https://t.co/jPLRmnAfzw https://t.co/peao39ehhW
Oh well, time to move on then.
bingo70
29-09-2020, 09:46 PM
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AL FIGHT Aberdeen and Hibs to fight it out over Motherwell star Alan Campbell
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22:30, 29 Sep 2020Updated: 22:37, 29 Sep 2020
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ABERDEEN are set to fight it out with Hibs once again — this time over Motherwell’s Allan Campbell.
SunSport understands the Dons are keen to sign the 22-year-old from under the nose of Hibees boss Jack Ross.
“From under the nose of Hibees boss Jack Ross”
His story last night said we liked the player but no deal was imminent as other clubs were interested and if anything we were more likely to try and get him in the summer, if at all.
The disappointing thing is people will read the headlines and make their mind up based on that.
Stuart93
29-09-2020, 09:46 PM
If we do want Campbell like the media seem to be suggesting we really need to push the boat out. If Aberdeen beat us to him they’re guaranteed 3rd place imo with a midfield of Ferguson Mcrorie & Campbell
Since452
29-09-2020, 09:46 PM
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22:30, 29 Sep 2020Updated: 22:37, 29 Sep 2020
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ABERDEEN are set to fight it out with Hibs once again — this time over Motherwell’s Allan Campbell.
SunSport understands the Dons are keen to sign the 22-year-old from under the nose of Hibees boss Jack Ross.
Actually getting embarrassing
Stuart93
29-09-2020, 09:46 PM
“From under the nose of Hibees boss Jack Ross”
His story last night said we liked the player but no deal was imminent as other clubs were interested and if anything we were more likely to try and get him in the summer, if at all.
The disappointing thing is people will read the headlines and make their mind up based on that.
Oh aye, it’ll definitely turn into another “hibs lose out to Aberdeen on another player”
500miles
29-09-2020, 09:46 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6102161/aberdeen-hibs-fight-motherwell-campbell/
Aberdeen will sign him if it comes to it. McInnes has already started the charm offensive and they’ve got money to play with.
He'd be the Lewis Ferguson replacement.
easty
29-09-2020, 09:49 PM
Why wouldn’t Aberdeen be interested in him? All Scottish teams out with Celtc and Rangers would be happy to have Campbell.
Aberdeen have money, if Campbell is available then they’d be stupid not to be interested.
That said, I think we’re as good an option for him as they are.
Brightside
29-09-2020, 09:50 PM
If we do want Campbell like the media seem to be suggesting we really need to push the boat out. If Aberdeen beat us to him they’re guaranteed 3rd place imo with a midfield of Ferguson Mcrorie & Campbell
Its only that clown Burns that prints this stuff all the time.... agents paying him to bump up the fees.
Stuart93
29-09-2020, 09:51 PM
Its only that clown Burns that prints this stuff all the time.... agents paying him to bump up the fees.
Aye that was my first thought. He’s an absolute throbber. Not the first time he’s done this with us either. The club really ought to put a stop to it.
easty
29-09-2020, 09:52 PM
Aye that was my first thought. He’s an absolute throbber. Not the first time he’s done this with us either. The club really ought to put a stop to it.
Put a stop to what, and how?
Stuart93
29-09-2020, 09:53 PM
Put a stop to what, and how?
To this clown printing false stories about us constantly? Because it then gets taken as gospel by sections of our support who then attack the club when we are supposedly “beaten to a target”
B.H.F.C
29-09-2020, 09:56 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6102161/aberdeen-hibs-fight-motherwell-campbell/
Aberdeen will sign him if it comes to it. McInnes has already started the charm offensive and they’ve got money to play with.
Have they got money to play with? They’ve not paid anything for McCrorie. And their other summer big signing, Hayes, deferred his wages for a year.
Edit - Forgot they sold McKenna.
Heisenberg
29-09-2020, 09:58 PM
Have they got money to play with? They’ve not paid anything for McCrorie. And their other summer big signing, Hayes, deferred his wages for a year.
Just took in £3m or so for McKenna? Suppose it depends how much of that will be used for covering running costs this season.
easty
29-09-2020, 09:58 PM
To this clown printing false stories about us constantly? Because it then gets taken as gospel by sections of our support who then attack the club when we are supposedly “beaten to a target”
Dunno what Hibs can do about it? Wouldn’t imagine much/anything.
It’s our support, getting so upset about stories put out by ***** newspapers, that need to get a grip.
Besides, the Campbell story is probably true. I’d be amazed if both us and Aberdeen aren’t interested in signing him.
superfurryhibby
29-09-2020, 10:00 PM
To this clown printing false stories about us constantly? Because it then gets taken as gospel by sections of our support who then attack the club when we are supposedly “beaten to a target”
Maybe that same section of our support need to wisen up a bit and not indulge themselves too much with berating the club at any opportunity.
NC1875
29-09-2020, 10:02 PM
If we’re serious about competing with Aberdeen then we need to start beating them to these type of signings.
And beating them on the park
B.H.F.C
29-09-2020, 10:02 PM
Just took in £3m or so for McKenna? Suppose it depends how much of that will be used for covering running costs this season.
Aye that just occurred to me after my post.
McInnes was pretty adamant that wouldn’t mean they’d be doing anything transfer wise, based on what they’ve already done. But, then again, they did sign three players after Cormack said it’d be one out, one in.
SMAXXA
29-09-2020, 10:03 PM
Oh well, time to move on then.
What a defeatist attitude 🤦*♂️
Stuart93
29-09-2020, 10:03 PM
Maybe that same section of our support need to wisen up a bit and not indulge themselves too much with berating the club at any opportunity.
But they don’t & probably won’t
B.H.F.C
29-09-2020, 10:05 PM
To this clown printing false stories about us constantly? Because it then gets taken as gospel by sections of our support who then attack the club when we are supposedly “beaten to a target”
I wouldn’t say there’s been that many fake stories to be honest, it’s just that they haven’t turned out the way we want. McCrorie certainly wasn’t fake.
Stuart93
29-09-2020, 10:07 PM
I wouldn’t say there’s been that many fake stories to be honest, it’s just that they haven’t turned out the way we want. McCrorie certainly wasn’t fake.
The Scott Fraser one? Scott Burns was clearly aware he was about to sign a new contract/had already signed a new contract but ran a story that we were after him.
New contract was then announced the next day. There was only a 12 hour difference between both of his stories.
Real Emerald
29-09-2020, 10:09 PM
Have they got money to play with? They’ve not paid anything for McCrorie. And their other summer big signing, Hayes, deferred his wages for a year.
Edit - Forgot they sold McKenna.
I think Aberdeen are highjacking other clubs deals, mainly ours. They do nothing and sit in the wings allowing us to spend weeks negotiating transfer fees, sell on clauses, players wages and length of contracts. Once all parties are happy they jump in at the last minute knowing that the deal is agreed, add in a bit more and get their player without any effort as we’ve put the work in. Good luck to any player wanting to play in front of their boring fans in a ramshackle stadium miles from anywhere.
The 90+2
29-09-2020, 10:10 PM
If we’re serious about competing with Aberdeen then we need to start beating them to these type of signings.
And beating them on the park
They’re going to a massive bench full of players they beat us to before long.
Stuart93
29-09-2020, 10:11 PM
They’re going to a massive bench full of players they beat us to before long.
This was my thought. They’ve an abundance of midfielders already.
B.H.F.C
29-09-2020, 10:11 PM
The Scott Fraser one? Scott Burns was clearly aware he was about to sign a new contract/had already signed a new contract but ran a story that we were after him.
New contract was then announced the next day. There was only a 12 hour difference between both of his stories.
That’s no quite constantly is it?
I’m not one to stick up for journalists but we can’t just pretend everything that doesn’t go our way is fake!
easty
29-09-2020, 10:12 PM
I think Aberdeen are highjacking other clubs deals, mainly ours. They do nothing and sit in the wings allowing us to spend weeks negotiating transfer fees, sell on clauses, players wages and length of contracts. Once all parties are happy they jump in at the last minute knowing that the deal is agreed, add in a bit more and get their player without any effort as we’ve put the work in. Good luck to any player wanting to play in front of their boring fans in a ramshackle stadium miles from anywhere.
I don’t think they’re doing anything wrong. They’re just as entitled to go for players as we are.
easty
29-09-2020, 10:15 PM
The Scott Fraser one? Scott Burns was clearly aware he was about to sign a new contract/had already signed a new contract but ran a story that we were after him.
New contract was then announced the next day. There was only a 12 hour difference between both of his stories.
Maybe he knew, maybe he didn’t, maybe he didn’t have anything better to write up that day.
I don’t know anyone who was particularly disappointed that we didn’t get Scott Fraser.
Stuart93
29-09-2020, 10:16 PM
That’s no quite constantly is it?
I’m not one to stick up for journalists but we can’t just pretend everything that doesn’t go our way is fake!
That’s not really what I’ve done is it? Mcrorie wasn’t fake, Ojo wasn’t fake.
He also printed stories during the summer about us “closing our academy” and how shocking it was that we were signing players at the same time.
Yet their was **** all reported by him when our academy started up again & was never closed. A coincidence? Or was it the fact he couldn’t try to stick the boot in about that?
Real Emerald
29-09-2020, 10:20 PM
I don’t think they’re doing anything wrong. They’re just as entitled to go for players as we are.
They’re not technically doing anything wrong but by constantly highjacking deals it starts to look very unprofessional and underhand. That’s how a lot of folk like to do business though and maybe that’s how you end up with the best yew and fash. Who knows??
HendoDelivered
29-09-2020, 10:25 PM
What a defeatist attitude 🤦*♂️
Its hard to say the opposite though, look what happened with Ojo and McCrorie. We can’t compete with Aberdeen wages wise.
Unseen work
29-09-2020, 10:28 PM
Mccinnes was waxing lyrical about Campbell recently after the 3-0 loss to Motherwell.
Theyll be able to offer more money for him and McInnes always appears to get his man. A central three for Aberdeen of Ferguson, McCrorie and Campbell would be outstanding and have the ability to compete with anyone on their day.
From Campbell’s point of view it would be appealing for him to be part of that midfield and also by realising Aberdeen seem to trump Hibs to players of late and will be getting 3rd, far in cups and in Europe most seasons. He will also get good exposure of playing in a good team, making him more attractive to other clubs later down the line.....the bigger wage will also be of interest.
Theyll surely have to get rid of some midfielders though as that will be McCrorie, Ferguson, Mcgeouch, Ojo, Dean Campbell and Allan Campbell.
At some point something’s got to give and we need to get players here, but money talks. It might take a few years of getting guys in who aren’t as desirable and building the team up so that others want to be here and play for us. At the moment Ross is doing a very good job with what we’ve got however signings like McCrorie and Campbell would have taken us to that next level.
Percy Vere
29-09-2020, 10:29 PM
Queue Derek McInnes on the phone to St Mirren
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It's only fair. Aberdeen had to let go of a few scouts, so now just rely on Hibs identifying their next potential signing.
B.H.F.C
29-09-2020, 10:29 PM
That’s not really what I’ve done is it? Mcrorie wasn’t fake, Ojo wasn’t fake.
He also printed stories during the summer about us “closing our academy” and how shocking it was that we were signing players at the same time.
Yet their was **** all reported by him when our academy started up again & was never closed. A coincidence? Or was it the fact he couldn’t try to stick the boot in about that?
You mentioned that “it then gets taken as gospel by sections of our support who then attack the club when we are supposedly “beaten to a target”.
Twice in the last year we’ve went for the same player as the sheep and twice they’ve won. We weren’t supposedly beaten to a target, we just were. They’re the two transfers I remember kicking up a bit of a stink in terms of reaction towards the club. The Fraser story disappeared as quickly as it appeared in the first place.
easty
29-09-2020, 10:33 PM
They’re not technically doing anything wrong but by constantly highjacking deals it starts to look very unprofessional and underhand. That’s how a lot of folk like to do business though and maybe that’s how you end up with the best yew and fash. Who knows??
I don’t think it’s underhand or unprofessional either.
The players, and the agents of the players, can go back and forward as many times as they want, with as many clubs as they want. It’s then up to the clubs to decide what they’ll pay, and how long they’ll wait, for a player.
The agents aren’t doing their job very well if they don’t try to get the best deal they can for their player.
Aberdeen put a better deal in the table for Ojo. He went there and I’m delighted he did.
They obviously offered a better deal for McCrorie. He looks like a good signing.
If we’re both interested in Campbell, then let’s see what happens. I’m happy to trust Hibs to make an offer based on what we think he’s worth to us. If Aberdeen offer him more, then we move on to someone else.
B.H.F.C
29-09-2020, 10:38 PM
They obviously offered a better deal for McCrorie. He looks like a good signing.
According to McInnes the financials were exactly the same. Whether he’s telling the truth is another story of course.
Ozyhibby
29-09-2020, 10:42 PM
I don’t think it’s underhand or unprofessional either.
The players, and the agents of the players, can go back and forward as many times as they want, with as many clubs as they want. It’s then up to the clubs to decide what they’ll pay, and how long they’ll wait, for a player.
The agents aren’t doing their job very well if they don’t try to get the best deal they can for their player.
Aberdeen put a better deal in the table for Ojo. He went there and I’m delighted he did.
They obviously offered a better deal for McCrorie. He looks like a good signing.
If we’re both interested in Campbell, then let’s see what happens. I’m happy to trust Hibs to make an offer based on what we think he’s worth to us. If Aberdeen offer him more, then we move on to someone else.
Not sure it’s a good idea to keep accepting second best.
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matty_f
29-09-2020, 10:42 PM
According to McInnes the financials were exactly the same. Whether he’s telling the truth is another story of course.
There’s no way he’s telling the whole truth - he mentioned Rangers got the same money, but neglected to say the same about the player, so while he didn’t lie, I think he was being disingenuous with his answer.
B.H.F.C
29-09-2020, 10:47 PM
There’s no way he’s telling the whole truth - he mentioned Rangers got the same money, but neglected to say the same about the player, so while he didn’t lie, I think he was being disingenuous with his answer.
He said they didn’t off McCrorie a penny more than was already on offer to him.
matty_f
29-09-2020, 10:50 PM
He said they didn’t off McCrorie a penny more than was already on offer to him.
Was that on Sportsound? The interview i heard, he stopped short of saying that but stated they didn’t give Rangers a penny more.
easty
29-09-2020, 10:52 PM
Not sure it’s a good idea to keep accepting second best.
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We’re not even second best, we were 7th best last season. This season we’ll be 3rd or 4th best, in my opinion.
There’s plenty footballers out there. We’ve signed the current squad of players, good players, that Aberdeen somehow didn’t get before us.
Greenworld
29-09-2020, 10:52 PM
Was that on Sportsound? The interview i heard, he stopped short of saying that but stated they didn’t give Rangers a penny more.Thats how i recall it they matched Hibs Bid.
Off course he got better terms from Aberdeen that's a given
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easty
29-09-2020, 10:54 PM
According to McInnes the financials were exactly the same. Whether he’s telling the truth is another story of course.
If the financials are the same, then we missed out for non-financial reasons.
He wanted to play in Europe. He wanted to work with McInnes. He thought he had a better chance of trophies there. Maybe he just wasn't very keen on Hibs?
It happens.
B.H.F.C
29-09-2020, 11:00 PM
Was that on Sportsound? The interview i heard, he stopped short of saying that but stated they didn’t give Rangers a penny more.
Can’t remember where I read it, but he was definitely quoted as saying that in response to John Collins saying it was all about money.
Edit, this is what the he was quoted as saying on Radio Scotland.
"It wasn’t even mentioned about money. I know we didn’t offer a penny more that wasn’t already on offer to him. It’s wrong, and I think it needs to be said that it’s wrong that Aberdeen did Hibs on money or whatever, because as soon as someone says it they just believe it to be true and it’s not true."
B.H.F.C
29-09-2020, 11:05 PM
If the financials are the same, then we missed out for non-financial reasons.
He wanted to play in Europe. He wanted to work with McInnes. He thought he had a better chance of trophies there. Maybe he just wasn't very keen on Hibs?
It happens.
It does. Was it not reported that Hearts tried to get Nisbet last minute and actually offered him more?!
Hibernia&Alba
30-09-2020, 02:26 AM
Another 65 million spent on a defender by Man City. I read that ten of fifteen most expensive defenders in football have now been signed by Man City.
Magpie
30-09-2020, 03:37 AM
Another 65 million spent on a defender by Man City. I read that ten of fifteen most expensive defenders in football have now been signed by Man City.
Apparently they are after David Alaba too. Yet to see if anything comes from that.
Haymaker
30-09-2020, 05:01 AM
That's your cue, Haymaker.
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JimBHibees
30-09-2020, 05:50 AM
According to McInnes the financials were exactly the same. Whether he’s telling the truth is another story of course.
I heard that and didn't believe him just like I don't believe when he says they will not replace McKenna.
If the financials are the same, then we missed out for non-financial reasons.
He wanted to play in Europe. He wanted to work with McInnes. He thought he had a better chance of trophies there. Maybe he just wasn't very keen on Hibs?
It happens.
There’s also a good chance that spending a fee of 350k hibs where unwilling to take the years loan part of the deal aberdeen accepted, dragging the negotiations out longer and giving the sheep the opportunity to get in on the deal.
The mcrorie deal is hugely beneficial to Rangers they get a fee for a player they wouldn’t use and he’s unable to play against them in a season they need to win the league, aberdeen struggling with finances don’t have to pay till next year they agree, hibs want him and want him to be an important part of the squad and available for every game.
I know we agreed to the same with Murphy but we had to move fast with Horgan leaving and being short wide there’s also no fee involved
Frustrating though that each time we’re linked aberdeen aren’t far behind, however we’re looking to close the gap on aberdeen it’s no suprise we’re shopping in the same places, I think we’re targeting the right players it’s also exciting to see that we clearly have an ambition to be challenging for those euro places and it’s also good to see that JR is getting the backing that Ron Gordon promised during his interview a couple of weeks ago.
NC1875
30-09-2020, 06:00 AM
If Derek McInnes told me the sky was blue I’d look out the window to check for myself. Mans a slavour
Since452
30-09-2020, 06:05 AM
If Derek McInnes told me the sky was blue I’d look out the window to check for myself. Mans a slavour
If Hibs said the sky was blue McInnes would try and sign it
Neily1982
30-09-2020, 06:25 AM
Just a thought but when this news broke it was the same time as Magennis from St Mirren, could it be Hibs are using Campbell as a decoy to shield interest in there real target Kyle Magennis, I don’t think Aberdeen can go for both they already have far to many midfielders as it stands.
If am being honest I did think when the knows broke of Campbell it would be a hard one to get over the line, due to interest in the player in England and the type of wages he would look for as I thought he would be on a few clubs radar.
neil7908
30-09-2020, 06:32 AM
Not sure it’s a good idea to keep accepting second best.
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What does that even mean? In a practical sense.
As others have pointed out, we'll finished 3rd at best this year - would we be OK to celebrate this achievement?
In regards to the player, Aberdeen have just sold a guy for £3m and they have someone pumping money into the club. If we only have a budget of say £4k per week that we can afford in wages and Aberdeen offer £5k per week, what should we do? Just ignore the budget and pay more? What if the player doesn't work out? And what about the next player that comes along - do we offer them more money? What about when players like Doidge, Nisbet, Boyle etc find out Campbell is on more than them and demand a raise?
I'm really pleased with our business this window and it's clear the club are looking at signing the right players. We're in the middle of a massive crisis in football and Hibs have paid a fee for the likes of Nisbet and actively looking at quality options like McRorie. Ron Gordon has also talked about maximising income but unfortunately this is not feasible so we'll have to make do for now.
Hibstrooper
30-09-2020, 06:45 AM
Just a thought but when this news broke it was the same time as Magennis from St Mirren, could it be Hibs are using Campbell as a decoy to shield interest in there real target Kyle Magennis, I don’t think Aberdeen can go for both they already have far to many midfielders as it stands.
If am being honest I did think when the knows broke of Campbell it would be a hard one to get over the line, due to interest in the player in England and the type of wages he would look for as I thought he would be on a few clubs radar.
I could see it being a decoy but more targeted towards St Mirren after their public statement, geared towards making them think we’ve got other targets so to strengthen our negotiating position.
Souter96Mac
30-09-2020, 06:45 AM
Just a thought but when this news broke it was the same time as Magennis from St Mirren, could it be Hibs are using Campbell as a decoy to shield interest in there real target Kyle Magennis, I don’t think Aberdeen can go for both they already have far to many midfielders as it stands.
If am being honest I did think when the knows broke of Campbell it would be a hard one to get over the line, due to interest in the player in England and the type of wages he would look for as I thought he would be on a few clubs radar.
Interesting idea. If we didn't get Campbell, I hope an English club just comes in for him. For all the lack of football Aberdeen play, their midfield would be up there with Celtic/Rangers for sure.
I'd be really happy with Magennis as I see a lot of potential there, on top of what already seems a good player. Also impressive to see he was named St Mirrens captain too, so another leader in the team won't go amiss.
Nicho87
30-09-2020, 06:51 AM
Surely if there was interest in Campbell by any club it would happen. I don’t get how suddenly we start to show an interest an that sparks all the clubs down south to make their move. Hibs will use John McGinn as the this could be you sales pitch. Hope we get him an Magennis. I’d punt Mallan in a swap deal also.
easty
30-09-2020, 06:54 AM
There’s also a good chance that spending a fee of 350k hibs where unwilling to take the years loan part of the deal aberdeen accepted, dragging the negotiations out longer and giving the sheep the opportunity to get in on the deal.
The mcrorie deal is hugely beneficial to Rangers they get a fee for a player they wouldn’t use and he’s unable to play against them in a season they need to win the league, aberdeen struggling with finances don’t have to pay till next year they agree, hibs want him and want him to be an important part of the squad and available for every game.
I know we agreed to the same with Murphy but we had to move fast with Horgan leaving and being short wide there’s also no fee involved
Frustrating though that each time we’re linked aberdeen aren’t far behind, however we’re looking to close the gap on aberdeen it’s no suprise we’re shopping in the same places, I think we’re targeting the right players it’s also exciting to see that we clearly have an ambition to be challenging for those euro places and it’s also good to see that JR is getting the backing that Ron Gordon promised during his interview a couple of weeks ago.
I just don’t believe that it was Rangers who insisted on a loan. If Rangers are that scared of him playing against him, they wouldnt be selling him, they’d be playing him. That Edmondson boy still gets some football at Rangers and he’s terrible, Hodor with football boots on! I think it’s a loan because at that time Aberdeen couldn’t pay, and I don’t think it being a loan first had any affect on us missing out.
With the Murphy deal, I think Rangers wanted rid of him but Murphy has a decent contract there, and wanted the money. Easier for Rangers to loan him out to us, where we’ll cover a portion of his wages, than to pay him up and release him.
Greenworld
30-09-2020, 07:05 AM
Surely if there was interest in Campbell by any club it would happen. I don’t get how suddenly we start to show an interest an that sparks all the clubs down south to make their move. Hibs will use John McGinn as the this could be you sales pitch. Hope we get him an Magennis. I’d punt Mallan in a swap deal also.
My thoughts exactly.
Is there interest in the player from England though ? Campbell is one that kind of flies under the radar i am not convinced he has yet reached the point in his career where good teams in England would be interested a move to Hibs could be a sensible move for him at this stage.
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Brightside
30-09-2020, 07:21 AM
The Campbell story has been created by the press. Already we have fans going on about if we miss out on him?? It’s negative before it even starts. We haven’t bid for him and unless Ron is providing another cash injection we won’t be.
B.H.F.C
30-09-2020, 07:23 AM
The Campbell story has been created by the press. Already we have fans going on about if we miss out on him?? It’s negative before it even starts. We haven’t bid for him and unless Ron is providing another cash injection we won’t be.
How do you know it’s been created by the press?
It seems to be exactly the type of signing we are prepared to invest in.
Brightside
30-09-2020, 07:27 AM
How do you know it’s been created by the press?
It seems to be exactly the type of signing we are prepared to invest in.
Did you actually read the story? Hibs like Campbell. That was the whole story. Most teams in the league like him. It’s a puff piece.
Silversand
30-09-2020, 07:39 AM
P&J saying we're "poised to table" £200k for Campbell
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B.H.F.C
30-09-2020, 07:40 AM
Did you actually read the story? Hibs like Campbell. That was the whole story. Most teams in the league like him. It’s a puff piece.
Aye I did and I don’t see what’s made up. We like him, are you saying we don’t?
There is another story saying we’ve made a move for him. You have no idea whether we have or haven’t, just as I don’t, so I’m not sure why you choose to call it made up and turn it round to people being negative, which isn’t really happening.
SMAXXA
30-09-2020, 07:40 AM
Did you actually read the story? Hibs like Campbell. That was the whole story. Most teams in the league like him. It’s a puff piece.
There’s a distinct difference between liking a player from afar like as you say most will versus expressing your interest to the players current club which is stage 1 of progressing down the transfer process. Not all clubs will do this as have no realistic chance of signing the said player
The Count
30-09-2020, 07:46 AM
Think we will bring in 2/3 players but have a feeling based on no facts that there will be a suprise departure.Oh the fun of nearing transfer deadline day.
Spike Mandela
30-09-2020, 07:51 AM
P&J saying we're "poised to table" £200k for Campbell
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Hibs are not signing Campbell and aren’t testing anyone’s resolve with that sort of bid. This is a media advert by most likely his agent to start a bidding war. Ignore.
04Sauzee
30-09-2020, 07:54 AM
Now im no detective but im assuming it's unlikely we will have a new face im by the game on Friday night 👀
Jim44
30-09-2020, 07:54 AM
The Magennis one seems to have gone away. I wonder if it’s dead in the water.
B.H.F.C
30-09-2020, 07:55 AM
Hibs are not signing Campbell and aren’t testing anyone’s resolve with that sort of bid. This is a media advert by most likely his agent to start a bidding war. Ignore.
Keep reading that it’s made up and don’t understand it.
We might (probably) won’t get him and any interest we have will obviously be used to try and drive further interest. But that doesn’t mean we aren’t trying in the first place, does it? Surely the deal we did for Nisbet and deal we tried to do for McCrorie show that this is the type of player we would be trying to get?
Robbo6-2
30-09-2020, 07:56 AM
After selling Turnbull for over 3m why the hell would Motherwell sell there next best player for 200 grand.
Absolute nonsense. All paper talk that the majority of our fans lap up and then we dont sign him they moan about having no ambition!
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