Summer 2020-21 transfer thread

[The Captain....]

Personally not too bothered McCrorie isnt coming. Id be lying if I knew how good he is as I haven't seen him play enough or haven't noticed him when he has.

However it doesn't really matter what I think..Jack Ross made it clear he wanted him and we didn't get him and look to have lost out to a rival. Just have to hope he turns out to be as ***** as Ojo has.

Never trust the huns is the lesson that should be learned here..have **** all to do with them now.

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[hibsmad]

If McCrorie goes there then I don't think there's any way to dress this up other than a big dissapointment for JR.

We have a much thinner squad this season and given we were willing to pay a decent fee for him I think it's clear that Ross really fancied bringing him in given his versatility.

He'd be gutted to lose him to Aberdeen.

[Callum_62]

Aye you could well be right but we just move on to other targets.

These things happen in football. The club will know that as well.

Let’s not get too over dramatic about it. This isn’t the first time and won’t be the last.Unless we change our metholodgy then I agree about the last part

Aberdeen not mentioned until late last night and now looking done an dusted today

We could take some lessons from that

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[hibee-boys]

Lesson learnt re speaking about potential targets prior to getting them over the line. Put us in a very difficult bargaining position and no doubt gave Rangers leverage around trying to force our hand when others came calling. I hope we've walked away and not attempted to up any bid.

[Nicho87]

Quite embarrassing if our main transfer target for a week goes to Aberdeen. Imo.

[JammyDoidger]

Go get Jackson Irvine!!!

Aye the 200k or whatever we were giving rangers for McCrorie, hand that to Irvine for his signature.

[Brightside]

I'm not sure its embarrassing.

[Slim Shady]

If McCrorie goes there then I don't think there's any way to dress this up other than a big dissapointment for JR.

We have a much thinner squad this season and given we were willing to pay a decent fee for him I think it's clear that Ross really fancied bringing him in given his versatility.

He'd be gutted to lose him to Aberdeen.


Yup and not the first!

Lack of available coaching staff or resource to recruit proper coaching staff also a massive disappointment!

[BlackSheep]

I'm not sure its embarrassing.

I have to disagree on this one I’m afraid.... fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!!

[Callum_62]

I'm not sure its embarrassing.From a club perspective I would say it is

Not losing out on a player, I'm. Sure that happens quite alot

But having it played out in public for a week only for him to sign for a rival

I'd say thats a bit embaressing for the club

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[Stuart93]

I'm not sure its embarrassing.

Yep. Load of over dramatic pish.

[Ronniekirk]

But Hull can only afford to pay Docherty £2k a week. Pretty poor if we can’t beat that.


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But they have met the £ 500,000 transfer


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[BlackSheep]

But they have met the £ 500,000 transfer


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Exactly.

[neil7908]

We need to wash our hands with the currant buns. Don't deal with them again over players in or out. We must have been confident of getting it done or we wouldn't have went public. We've been shafted here. Onto the next one.

Agreed. They have played this one to their advantage and left us in the wind. All within their rights of course but they are not a trusted company to deal with.

Whilst I enjoyed Doherty last season there looks to be no prospect of that turning into anything permanent and in the process we had to deal with the Kamberi fall out.

[J-C]

Never knew much about McCrorie until all this but he looked like a type of signing Stubbs made when hs was here. I also think people tend to forget is McInnes is a Hun and they're happy to deal with him, move on to someone else.

[The Harp Awakes]

Folk saying they aint bothered

Our management and recruitment team obviously really want him

We confirmed publically via our manager and owner that we were all but finalised in signing him

If we lose out to one of our rivals it is embaressing for the club, no doubt about that

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While we're all speculating on the facts, it certainly looks like Hibs have again been outbid by our major rival for a player we'd targeted. Difficult to gloss over that, other than to say that maybe he is not as good as everyone thinks. Signing Docherty would have been less risky as he proved himself with us last season. Maybe we'll now push the boat out to get Docherty.

[The Captain....]

I'm not sure its embarrassing.Its not embarrassing its just economics. Aberdeen are consistently willing to pay more than we are when we are interested in the same players.

Given we are seling more season tickets and have a multi millionaire owner also I can understand the disappointment tbh. However im more concerned with what Jack Ross thinks. I'd imagine he isnt very happy.

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[Stuart93]

While we're all speculating on the facts, it certainly looks like Hibs have again been outbid by our major rival for a player we'd targeted. Difficult to gloss over that, other than to say that maybe he is not as good as everyone thinks. Signing Docherty would have been less risky as he proved himself with us last season. Maybe we'll now push the boat out to get Docherty.

Or maybe that Aberdeen have more money than us to spend on both transfer fees and wages?

[sean04]

If we really wanted him we would’ve pushed the boat out. Will have our targets in mind. Can’t pay over the odds just to get players

[Hibee Mac]

I was never very keen about McRorie and said as much on here the other day. I don't think he fits into our team we should be going after someone who can push Newell for a starting spot rather than Gogic.

We could do with cheap backup for Gogic but not an expensive signing like McRorie (expensive for us anyway)

[MWHIBBIES]

Very disappointing to lose a target to Aberdeen, if indeed we have. That being said, Aberdeen aren't very good at all. A stale side, no pace, no real drive. He'll have to be some player to solve their problems.

On the hibs front, I don't think he was the player we needed anyway. Everyone keeps talking about ENERGY. Its like some kind of red bull advertising campaign. Its quality we need, specifically quality with the ball. We desperately need a player to take the ball from Hanlon and start attacks for us. To give it to Boyle or Allan and let them take us forward. A player who can dictate the game, box the opposition in, recycle the ball. We desperately need a McGeouch type. Defensively McGeouch was also very good, because he could hold the shape, read the game well, intercept it. Most important he kept the ball, which massively reduces the pressure on us.

Thats the player we should be looking for IMO.

[davhibby]

When will people realise that Aberdeen just have more money than us? Every year people seem surprised when they’re able to spend more than us. Is it disappointing? Yes, but it’s certainly not embarrassing

[Blaster]

When will people realise that Aberdeen just have more money than us? Every year people seem surprised when they’re able to spend more than us. Is it disappointing? Yes, but it’s certainly not embarrassing

They also have the prospect of 8 players missing a number of games when punished for their actions

[Ozyhibby]

Very disappointing to lose a target to Aberdeen, if indeed we have. That being said, Aberdeen aren't very good at all. A stale side, no pace, no real drive. He'll have to be some player to solve their problems.

On the hibs front, I don't think he was the player we needed anyway. Everyone keeps talking about ENERGY. Its like some kind of red bull advertising campaign. Its quality we need, specifically quality with the ball. We desperately need a player to take the ball from Hanlon and start attacks for us. To give it to Boyle or Allan and let them take us forward. A player who can dictate the game, box the opposition in, recycle the ball. We desperately need a McGeouch type. Defensively McGeouch was also very good, because he could hold the shape, read the game well, intercept it. Most important he kept the ball, which massively reduces the pressure on us.

Thats the player we should be looking for IMO.

Every year I read on here how rubbish Aberdeen are and every year they qualify for Europe and we don’t.


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[Ozyhibby]

When will people realise that Aberdeen just have more money than us? Every year people seem surprised when they’re able to spend more than us. Is it disappointing? Yes, but it’s certainly not embarrassing

Clearly something wrong at Hibs if we can’t monetise the fact that we have more fans than them.


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[davhibby]

Every year I read on here how rubbish Aberdeen are and every year they qualify for Europe and we don’t.


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They’ve played poor football which skews things a bit. Last season though they were rubbish and post Hecky we had more points than them and we weren’t great either

[Bostonhibby]

When will people realise that Aberdeen just have more money than us? Every year people seem surprised when they’re able to spend more than us. Is it disappointing? Yes, but it’s certainly not embarrassingIt's this for me, in the group we should be competing with it's not how much you've got but what you do with it.

Aberdeen have done okay but could be at a crossroads, but it wasn't so long ago we were hearing how far ahead Hearts would be because of all that extra money they have.

As for McCrorie I'm ambivalent, don't know much about him but if he doesn't sign we move on.

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[Paisley Hibby]

I have absolutely no idea how good a player McCrorie is. But on the face of it, he was Jack Ross's No1 target and, unusually for Hibs, a lot was said in the press to that effect. So if he ends up at Aberdeen that's a pretty public knockback for our club and our ability to match our manager's ambitions. Unless, of course, McCrorie was being used as a smokescreen to hide who we are really after?

[SweetDreams]

Sheep ****ging *******s

[Hibee Mac]

Clearly something wrong at Hibs if we can’t monetise the fact that we have more fans than them.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThis always confuses me, the revenue figures they bring in compared to us aren't just a little bit more, it's a significant percentage more than us.

What do they do that we don't, like you say we have more fans consistently so were clearly missing a trick somewhere?

[BlackSheep]

Very disappointing to lose a target to Aberdeen, if indeed we have. That being said, Aberdeen aren't very good at all. A stale side, no pace, no real drive. He'll have to be some player to solve their problems.

On the hibs front, I don't think he was the player we needed anyway. Everyone keeps talking about ENERGY. Its like some kind of red bull advertising campaign. Its quality we need, specifically quality with the ball. We desperately need a player to take the ball from Hanlon and start attacks for us. To give it to Boyle or Allan and let them take us forward. A player who can dictate the game, box the opposition in, recycle the ball. We desperately need a McGeouch type. Defensively McGeouch was also very good, because he could hold the shape, read the game well, intercept it. Most important he kept the ball, which massively reduces the pressure on us.

Thats the player we should be looking for IMO.

I disagree with the defensive attributes you make about McGeouch.... many times he failed to track runners or put in tackles in that ended up leading to goals... he also never bust a gut to get back in to help with counter attacks.

[Stuart93]

Also important to note that this became public because of Rangers and SG.

I think we would’ve kept things out of the media like we usually do.

It looks like we’ve been used to get a better deal elsewhere. Cut all ties with the hun *******s.

[Ozyhibby]

They’ve played poor football which skews things a bit. Last season though they were rubbish and post Hecky we had more points than them and we weren’t great either

And are still looking forward to playing in Europe again.


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[DTS]

I don’t think it’s that embarrassing etc however our owner said less than 48 hours ago he wanted to come to hibs. I think it’s piss poor that we’re losing out to Aberdeen on another holding midfielder. Ojo last summer and now McCrorie. It is by no means the end of the world but it’s extremely disappointing especially as he was a clear fit for the flexibility Ross is wanting. It’ll be interesting to see if we move for a centre half/ Centre mid first if not both.

[Ozyhibby]

I disagree with the defensive attributes you make about McGeouch.... many times he failed to track runners or put in tackles in that ended up leading to goals... he also never bust a gut to get back in to help with counter attacks.

And never bust a gut to make himself available for games.


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[BlackSheep]

The one thing to note is none of this is official yet... and while I’m untwisting my nickers about this, I’ll live in hope that 1. We actually manage to get this one over the line... or 2. We have other irons in the fire.

[Ozyhibby]

I don’t think it’s that embarrassing etc however our owner said less than 48 hours ago he wanted to come to hibs. I think it’s piss poor that we’re losing out to Aberdeen on another holding midfielder. Ojo last summer and now McCrorie. It is by no means the end of the world but it’s extremely disappointing especially as he was a clear fit for the flexibility Ross is wanting. It’ll be interesting to see if we move for a centre half/ Centre mid first if not both.

Need a centre mid desperately.


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[HendoDelivered]

Go all out for Jackson Irvine

[SHODAN]

Time for us to get our Josh Vela! :partyhibb

[GreenCastle]

Every year I read on here how rubbish Aberdeen are and every year they qualify for Europe and we don’t.


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Europe yes - but lots of them still can’t stand McInnes !

Anyway bottom line is Europe makes you more money.

Dylan and SJM didn’t score enough goals / assist but we do need a player who can take the ball under pressure off the back line And stop them hoofing it up the pitch.

But energy also to close opposition as when we didn’t have the ball against Killie / Utd and Motherwell we gave them so much space.

Ideally 2 players - Dylan type and Omeonga / Docherty type and that would be better balance.

[bingo70]

Nothing embarrassing about it imo.

Aberdeen have consistently finished above us and have European football to offer.

They’ve got more money, normally finish higher in the league and can offer some European football.

Just one of those things that can happen sometimes.

[Callum_62]

Also important to note that this became public because of Rangers and SG.

I think we would’ve kept things out of the media like we usually do.

It looks like we’ve been used to get a better deal elsewhere. Cut all ties with the hun *******s.We confirmed it

Didn't need to

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[04Sauzee]

Go all out for Jackson Irvine
If Jackson Irvine doesn't get a very good offer down south I'd be extremely surprised. Is he more of a Docherty Box to Box type?

[davhibby]

And are still looking forward to playing in Europe again.


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Yes and now we look to have a set up in place that will be capable of bettering them on the pitch

[The Harp Awakes]

Clearly something wrong at Hibs if we can’t monetise the fact that we have more fans than them.


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Agreed and it seems their spending power must be significantly greater than ours. If there wasn't much in the wages they were paying, most players would choose Hibs over Aberdeen every time as living in and around Edinburgh is a major plus. The city of Aberdeen, like the football club, is just boring.

[CmoantheHibs]

If he wants to be here great. If he doesn't its no big deal. We move on and get someone who buys into what our club is about. If its true that he is away to Aberdeen then I'm more interested in who we will bring in next.

[BILLYHIBS]

Not a snowballs chance in hell - wed not like it if teams lowballed us like that so not really becoming of us to do the same to other teams. Turnbull and Campbell are terrific talents way out our price range - lets keep it realistic

I did not think Kevin Nisbet was realistic a month ago with Dunfermline reportedly wanting 1m back in January.

Never say never.

I suppose our transfer budget must be close to being done but looking like The Sheep once again guzumping us on a player so back to square one ?

[MWHIBBIES]

Every year I read on here how rubbish Aberdeen are and every year they qualify for Europe and we don’t.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThey got in it by default because the league/cup scenario. We had a chance to get in it by winning the cup.


I disagree with the defensive attributes you make about McGeouch.... many times he failed to track runners or put in tackles in that ended up leading to goals... he also never bust a gut to get back in to help with counter attacks.
Can you give examples of these many times? Maybe once or twice, which is very standard for a player at this level to make mistakes. Generally he was very solid defensively, held his position well, didn't give in, read the game well. Nobody was crying out for us to be playing a big kicker when we had him there.

[SweetDreams]

Friend who is an Aberdeen fan reckons we could be getting McGeough back.

[we are hibs]

While I’d still take McGeough back I did wonder how he would get on without McGinn beside him. Same with Scott Allan, to a lesser extent. Not to diminish their individual contributions as they were both excellent for us in their own right. However it’s a tough ask to get anywhere near that level again without someone like McGinn beside them.

They both played well together without McGinn 1st season in the championship.

[euro Hibby]

Hibs generally handle the transfer windows quite well. From time to time you are not going to get the players you wanted so you move onto next best or better !
I am sure there are lots of alternatives.

[SHODAN]

https://i.imgur.com/9x6aIMs.png

Aye, Aberdeen are pish and will definitely struggle this year, as we thought they would every season since we've been promoted.

[S4uzee]

Apart from money, I don’t see would you chose Aberdeen over Hibs or Hearts.

Edinburgh a better place to live, better stadiums, a derby (usually 4x a season)

[MWHIBBIES]

https://i.imgur.com/9x6aIMs.png

Aye, Aberdeen are pish and will definitely struggle this year, as we thought they would every season since we've been promoted.

Pretty clear decline is evident there. Needed to win all 8 remaining games to better the previous seasons points total and that was 6 less than the season prior. Could easily struggle this season, especially with Cosgrove out and a big fixture pile up.

[JimBHibees]

We confirmed it

Didn't need to

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Would that have made any difference given our interest was in the public domain anyway.

[Big_Franck]

Apart from money, I don’t see would you chose Aberdeen over Hibs or Hearts.

Edinburgh a better place to live, better stadiums, a derby (usually 4x a season)

Money is all that matters to a lot, if not the majority, of players though.

I never rated McCrorie from what I saw of him at Rangers initially. Very limited on the ball from what I seen. IMO he isn't worth what the huns were asking for him and we'll find better.

[Spudster]

Sounds like Aberdeen are after McRorie to replace Devlin/Bryson. Both contesting the fine given out by the club and contracts being terminated. Rumour up in Aberdeen anyway

[Brightside]

I have to disagree on this one I’m afraid.... fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!!

Its football. Happens all the time. Especially with a player who is wanted. Man U etc lose out on players all the time.

[SweetDreams]

Apart from money, I don’t see would you chose Aberdeen over Hibs or Hearts.

Edinburgh a better place to live, better stadiums, a derby (usually 4x a season)

European football?

[darwenhibby]

Friend who is an Aberdeen fan reckons we could be getting McGeough back.

I really feel McGeough is the wrong player for us
How many games then injured again

[we are hibs]

Docherty to hull for 400k

[SweetDreams]

Docherty to hull for 400k

Think that will turn out to be good business for Hull. Player who shone in that league previously.

[we are hibs]

Hibs didnt make it public knowledge that we were after McCrorie. Gerrard did. So im not sure how people were expecting Hibs to control the narrative about this.

[Keith_M]

This always confuses me, the revenue figures they bring in compared to us aren't just a little bit more, it's a significant percentage more than us.

What do they do that we don't, like you say we have more fans consistently so were clearly missing a trick somewhere?


They have additional income from their owner and the supporters membership scheme.

We definitely need to find ways to compete with then in the levels of non match-day income... though we will have a long term advantage in that we've already rebuilt our stadium and they're going to have to start from scratch at some point.

[Jim44]

The loan/option to buy suits Rangers as McCrorie not playing 4 games against Rangers is crucial to the deal.

[SweetDreams]

Hibs didnt make it public knowledge that we were after McCrorie. Gerrard did. So im not sure how people were expecting Hibs to control the narrative about this.

Gordon continued: “I don’t like to litigate negotiations in public, but we are in conversation.
“Ross is a terrific young player and we would love to explore those possibilities.
“I think he is very interested in coming to Hibs and if we could move that along then it would be great.”
On hearing that McCrorie now has his heart set on a switch to Easter Road, he added: “I love to hear that! The number one precondition for any players coming to Hibs is that this is the club they want to play for.

“Ross has made that point, which is good.”

[inglisavhibs]

Clearly something wrong at Hibs if we can’t monetise the fact that we have more fans than them.


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This has been done to death, Aberdeen get donations of around 4-5 million (even more than Hearts) taking their turnover over the £15m from memory. You can’t force people to give you donations. There are not many James Anderson’s around. Currently if Aberdeen and Hibs want the same player there is only one winner. Hibs just have to do the best they can with the money they have available.

[The Modfather]

Pretty clear decline is evident there. Needed to win all 8 remaining games to better the previous seasons points total and that was 6 less than the season prior. Could easily struggle this season, especially with Cosgrove out and a big fixture pile up.

We have gone from 4th - 5th - 6th (technically 7th), our decline is equally as evident. We’ve a good chance to finish in the top 4 this season but it’s a far bigger challenge to try and maintain the levels of consistency Aberdeen have shown the last 6 or 7 years, which is where we need to get to.

[JimBHibees]

I really feel McGeough is the wrong player for us
How many games then injured again

Would be surprised given Ross didn't appear to go for him when he left Sunderland

[davhibby]

The loan/option to buy suits Rangers as McCrorie not playing 4 games against Rangers is crucial to the deal.

It won’t be an option to buy, it will be an obligation so they can’t decide they don’t fancy him next summer

[Jones28]

Very frustrating, Mcrorie could have proven to be the missing link giving us more bite in midfield.

He was clearly our number 1 target, very disappointing to lose out to Aberdeen...again.

They annoy me not because they go for the same targets as us, that’s fair, but the way they do it is so sleekit and underhanded. Wait for Hibs to nearly get the deal over the line, then jump in at the mast minute with a better offer.

As for Rangers: this is why we shouldn’t deal with the devil. **** them. They made it public, and as soon as they did we should have pulled the offer, because that put the ball in their court.

[Onion]

Celtic used to annoy me when they cherry-picked our best players (or tried to in the case of SJM) but now they fish in bigger pool it's less of a problem. Aberdeen are starting to irritate by hyjackig our better transfer targets - Rooney, Dylan, Ojo and now McCrorie. Yes, they have more money than us and regularly do better than us, but that doesn't make it any easier too take.

[we are hibs]

Gordon continued: “I don’t like to litigate negotiations in public, but we are in conversation.
“Ross is a terrific young player and we would love to explore those possibilities.
“I think he is very interested in coming to Hibs and if we could move that along then it would be great.”
On hearing that McCrorie now has his heart set on a switch to Easter Road, he added: “I love to hear that! The number one precondition for any players coming to Hibs is that this is the club they want to play for.

“Ross has made that point, which is good.”

Whats your point?

[Percy Vere]

Dylan's career was on the right trajectory the last time he was with us, leaving a big club with a point to prove.

Since he left us he's played little football, won over few fans of the clubs he's played with and it looks to me he's been more bothered about earning cash, bulking up and getting a hair transplant.

As much as I liked him as a player I think he's wrong for us now. McRorie would arguably have been a bit more like McGeouch in the position we signed him the last time - leaving the OF with little option other than to make a success of his next move if he wants to have a future in the game.

McGeouch's got a bit of coasting to do yet, and he shouldn't be allowed to do it for us.

It was unlike Hibs (other than possibly when we had Lennon in charge) to be as vocal about a player and a transfer publicly that appears to have been far from over the line.

Totally agree. Dylan had his chance to come back and chose Aberdeen.
Don’t think he’s what we need or want. If Docherty is still available I’d much rather have him, energy and drive.

[SweetDreams]

The loan/option to buy suits Rangers as McCrorie not playing 4 games against Rangers is crucial to the deal.

Definitely, I also mentioned that last night, the fee Aberdeen pay at the end of the season will also probably be more than the fee we are offering now.

[Speedway]

Lost out to Dons on:

Ojo - done nothing
Dylan (?) dome nothing
Rooney - Didn’t do too much
McCrorie - who cares?

They’ve got more money than us because they have more debt than us.

Currently they’re levering debt.

Am I bovvered?

[SweetDreams]

Whats your point?

Just that Ron spoke about interest in the player.

[MWHIBBIES]

We have gone from 4th - 5th - 6th (technically 7th), our decline is equally as evident. We’ve a good chance to finish in the top 4 this season but it’s a far bigger challenge to try and maintain the levels of consistency Aberdeen have shown the last 6 or 7 years, which is where we need to get to.

We've had 3 managers in that time, though. They've had the same set up for 7 years. If we have Ross for the next 7 years, we could have that consistency as well.

[we are hibs]

Just that Ron spoke about interest in the player.

Aye because Gerrard made it public knowledge. If he hadnt then hibs wouldnt have said anything.

[MWHIBBIES]

Lost out to Dons on:

Ojo - done nothing
Dylan (?) dome nothing
Rooney - Didn’t do too much
McCrorie - who cares?

They’ve got more money than us because they have more debt than us.

Currently they’re levering debt.

Am I bovvered?

Rooney scored 88 goals for them in 197 games, winning the league cup. If Nisbit and Doidge done that for us we'd be delighted.

[Billy Whizz]

The loan/option to buy suits Rangers as McCrorie not playing 4 games against Rangers is crucial to the deal.

He’s their player they can do what they want
If we’re buying him, he then becomes our player, and we can play him when we want
What a horrible club to deal with

[SHODAN]

Lost out to Dons on:

Ojo - done nothing
Dylan (?) dome nothing
Rooney - Didn’t do too much
McCrorie - who cares?

They’ve got more money than us because they have more debt than us.

Currently they’re levering debt.

Am I bovvered?

Not disputing the other two, but Rooney scored 88 goals for them and would probably have kept us up if we'd signed him.

[chippy]

Docherty to hull for 400k

We’re having a good day

[HH81]

We’re having a good day

He is not worth 400k anyway.

[mcfly]

Lost out to Dons on:

Ojo - done nothing
Dylan (?) dome nothing
Rooney - Didn’t do too much
McCrorie - who cares?

They’ve got more money than us because they have more debt than us.

Currently they’re levering debt.

Am I bovvered?

I think we should all be bovvered as you say.

He was our number 1 target, we’ve spent ages working on the deal and Aberdeen step in and boom it’s all done.

They clearly will spend more on getting players than we will and agents know that.

It’s a kick in the teeth for fans again though as Aberdeen out bid us for players for at least the 5th time.

also when the manager and chairman talk about him and don’t deliver.

Not great hibs not great at all

[Wilson]

We’re having a good day

We were well in on negotiations for McCrorie and got pipped at the last it seems.

Doherty was always set on going south according to some.

We're not suddenly having a worse day because a player who was set on going South actually goes there!

[04Sauzee]

We’re having a good day

Think his made a tentative enquiry a good few weeks ago, i think it was obvious he seen his future down south

[Since452]

Will be interesting to see who we bring in instead of McCrorie

[Big_Franck]

Some people need to settle down. An overhyped, overpriced old firm youngster who has shown very little in his career is signing for Aberdeen. So what? Plenty more options out there.

[The Modfather]

He is not worth 400k anyway.

It looks a moot point anyway, but I think Docherty is worth £400k, and would have made us a big profit on that in a few years. He’s still a bit raw, but think he is going to develop into a very good player.

[Gaffer1875]

Like anything in business, things can still change..... not official until it’s official!


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[BlackSheep]

We were well in on negotiations for McCrorie and got pipped at the last it seems.

Doherty was always set on going south according to some.

We're not suddenly having a worse day because a player who was set on going South actually goes there!

It’s salt in the wounds....

...wounds that may not exist as all of this mornings ‘news’ is speculation right now.

[Squealing pig]

Let’s make sure we skelp Aberdeen this season

[S4uzee]

He is not worth 400k anyway.

I know ... he’s probably worth more. £400k is a great deal for Hull getting a player with a good attitude, extremely fit and is also very effective

[Heisenberg]

Some people need to settle down. An overhyped, overpriced old firm youngster who has shown very little in his career is signing for Aberdeen. So what? Plenty more options out there.

Tbf we thought the same with Funso Ojo and our backup option for him was somehow even worse. Hope they’ve got something better up their sleeve this time.

[K-Zazu]

Blown away by Aberdeen once again. Pathetic.

[GreenCastle]

Docherty did well with Shrewsbury and decent at Hibs (except the Derby when everyone was awful).

McCorie was really poor at Portsmouth. For a guy who was captain of Scotland U21 you think he would have more options surely ?

Not losing sleep if we don’t sign McCorie. The only annoying part is he’s gone to a rival for 3rd plus the snake tactics by Aberdeen and Rangers - who oddly cant stand each other but probably a deal to get Ferguson to Rangers.

[BlackSheep]

Docherty did well with Shrewsbury and decent at Hibs (except the Derby when everyone was awful).

McCorie was really poor at Portsmouth. For a guy who was captain of Scotland U21 you think he would have more options surely ?

Not losing sleep if we don’t sign McCorie. The only annoying part is he’s gone to a rival for 3rd plus the snake tactics by Aberdeen and Rangers - who oddly cant stand each other but probably a deal to get Ferguson to Rangers.

Can’t stand each other is Panto!!!

McInness is a huge Hun... while he is the manager there will always be a blue nosed love in!!!

[makaveli1875]

Blown away by Aberdeen once again. Pathetic.

To be fair its reported we offered 200k and he's not worth much more than that . Docherty maybe but Mcrorie is nowhere near his level . Aberdeen have obviously met The Rangers inflated asking price and they cant even play him against them this season . No deal is better than a bad deal and this sounds like a bad deal

[bingo70]

Blown away by Aberdeen once again. Pathetic.

Why is it pathetic?

They have more money than us as they consistently finish above us.

If I was the player I’d probably join them too, even before you take into account the money which lets face it, isn’t an insignificant factor.

I’m not that bothered about the player, I was happy to trust the managers judgment but from the very little I’d seen of him I wasn’t bothered about us signing him.

Next target please.

[brog]

The loan/option to buy suits Rangers as McCrorie not playing 4 games against Rangers is crucial to the deal.

I know this is being banded about Jim, but I'll ask again, If Gerrard really is so concerned about R McC playing against the Rangers then why is he selling him? Doesn't make sense.

[Alfred E Newman]

Blown away by Aberdeen once again. Pathetic.

As is this post.

[Winston Ingram]

When will people realise that Aberdeen just have more money than us? Every year people seem surprised when they’re able to spend more than us. Is it disappointing? Yes, but it’s certainly not embarrassing

This. Dave Cormack bankrolls the lot of it.

If it weren't for him we'd p!ss all over them financially.

[LeithMike]

I know this is being banded about Jim, but I'll ask again, If Gerrard really is so concerned about R McC playing against the Rangers then why is he selling him? Doesn't make sense.I don't think it's that McCrorie improves Rangers. It's that he improves Aberdeen when playing Celtic but not against Rangers. If he becomes a regular at Aberdeen then Rangers will effectively play a weakened and disrupted Aberdeen team. Big advantage for them in those games. SFA/SPFL really need to do something about it.

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[Callum_62]

Some people need to settle down. An overhyped, overpriced old firm youngster who has shown very little in his career is signing for Aberdeen. So what? Plenty more options out there.You mustn't think much of our recruitment team seeing as we were desperate to add him to our squad

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[Robbo6-2]

Wonder if the weegie press will slaughter aberdeen for out bidding us

[K-Zazu]

As is this post.

Roll on the next Josh Vela.

[AlbertK86]

It’s suggested that the deal is a loan with Aberdeen buying him at the end of the season... with current financial constraints this makes sense and it allows Rangers to get their way with RM not able to play against them this year... Rangers are pulling out the stops to stop 10 in a Row....!

It so underhanded and shouldn’t be allowed!!! Horrible way to play the game, where the sportsmanship!!! [emoji2959][emoji2959][emoji2959]

Life unfortunately


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[BlackSheep]

I don't think it's that McCrorie improves Rangers. It's that he improves Aberdeen when playing Celtic but not against Rangers. If he becomes a regular at Aberdeen then Rangers will effectively play a weakened and disrupted Aberdeen team. Big advantage for them in those games. SFA/SPFL really need to do something about it.

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You’re last sentence is the strongest point that needs to be made here.

Where is the sporting integrity in this? Finances aside to manoeuvre a deal so the player one is selling can’t play against you is downright cheating! And Aberdeen McInness accepting this is corruption at its best!

[Callum_62]

You’re last sentence is the strongest point that needs to be made here.

Where is the sporting integrity in this? Finances aside to manoeuvre a deal so the player one is selling can’t play against you is downright cheating! And Aberdeen McInness accepting this is corruption at its best!Corruption?

Settle down

2 loanees basically won us the SC

I don't remember reading about corruption back then

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[AlbertK86]

But Hull can only afford to pay Docherty £2k a week. Pretty poor if we can’t beat that.


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They will just give him a massive signing on fee instead


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[The 90+2]

Wonder if the weegie press will slaughter aberdeen for out bidding us

They aren’t paying anything for him until next year.

I’m in two minds about the whole thing, he was desperate to come and we where desperately wanting to sign him and they deal looked in place so it’s disappointing in that aspect but on the other hand I don’t necessarily rate the player very highly so I’m not that fussed personally he’s going North. To be outdone by the sheep is brutal again though.

[The Modfather]

Can’t stand each other is Panto!!!

McInness is a huge Hun... while he is the manager there will always be a blue nosed love in!!!

A few people have mentioned McInnes being a Rangers fan, that might well be so but not sure it’s of any relevance to him being Aberdeen manager. He turned down the Rangers job, leaving them looking silly in the process, and has probably signed as many players from Celtic (e.g. Christie on loan) as he has from Rangers.

[Nicho87]

Ron should never have been speaking about a player that we are going for. Looks like amateur hour and now got egg on their face. Petrie and dempster not comment until official should remain the policy. Wonder how Ross feels about it all.

[The 90+2]

You’re last sentence is the strongest point that needs to be made here.

Where is the sporting integrity in this? Finances aside to manoeuvre a deal so the player one is selling can’t play against you is downright cheating! And Aberdeen McInness accepting this is corruption at its best!

How is it cheating? He’s going on loan for a year because Aberdeen can’t afford him just now, the stipulation is he goes permanently next year and until then can’t play against his parent club. It’s a good solution for everyone.

[Jim44]

I know this is being banded about Jim, but I'll ask again, If Gerrard really is so concerned about R McC playing against the Rangers then why is he selling him? Doesn't make sense.

I agree it seems a bit odd. I reckon that Gerrard is finding he can’t offer McCrorie a decent squad place but still rates him as someone who could do damage to Rangers, especially with us. As I said earlier, Gerrard isn’t selling him this season and next season he knows that he’ll be getting the boot when Celtic get TIAR.

[we are hibs]

Hearts dont want Jason Cummings but hes "very keen" to sign for them, apparently.

[The Modfather]

You’re last sentence is the strongest point that needs to be made here.

Where is the sporting integrity in this? Finances aside to manoeuvre a deal so the player one is selling can’t play against you is downright cheating! And Aberdeen McInness accepting this is corruption at its best!

Are there different rules in Europe about this? Seems relatively common for players to play against their parent club, Coutinho against Barcelona being the latest example.

[marinello59]

You’re last sentence is the strongest point that needs to be made here.

Where is the sporting integrity in this? Finances aside to manoeuvre a deal so the player one is selling can’t play against you is downright cheating! And Aberdeen McInness accepting this is corruption at its best!

It's not corrupt, it's simply business. If Aberdeen have got the player then their negotiation skills proved better than ours.

[we are hibs]

Ron should never have been speaking about a player that we are going for. Looks like amateur hour and now got egg on their face. Petrie and dempster not comment until official should remain the policy. Wonder how Ross feels about it all.

He wouldnt have spoken about the player had Gerrard not made it public knowledge

[LeithMike]

Agreed. Something's not quite right where Celtic loaning a player out could have a bigger impact on the title than actually signing a player. That would surely be the case if, for example, Celtic were to loan Griffiths to Hibs.

Given the desperation over 10IAR, it wouldn't be out of the realms of possibility for one of the old firm to specifically sign a player for one of the other teams for the season (which they could effectively do by signing the player and immediately loaning him out).

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[brog]

Some random thoughts on McCroriegate!!

1. Hibs Net, why does the Club never give us any info on signing targets? Today, Why did the Club talk about signing R McC? :confused:
2. Aberdeen do not pay significantly higher wages than us, (last 2 seasons) though no one has a clue this season. European football is a big plus however.
3. I worked regularly in Aberdeen for 30 years & have many Sheep friends there. Aberdeen are currently in chaos. As in another post the fans want rid of Bryson/Devlin/Ojo/Dylan. They also expect (are desperate) to sell McKenna. They need R McC much more than we do & have possibly pushed the boat out for this one.
4. Many Dons fans think a move for Lewis Ferguson is tied into this deal. Apparently The Rangers have 1st option on him.

Personally, as I posted earlier I was very unfussed about prospect of signing R McC but like everyone on here this sticks in the craw a bit. It's a long way from being embarrassing though. Let's leave the embarrassment to our Tiny neighbours!

[LeithMike]

You’re last sentence is the strongest point that needs to be made here.

Where is the sporting integrity in this? Finances aside to manoeuvre a deal so the player one is selling can’t play against you is downright cheating! And Aberdeen McInness accepting this is corruption at its best!
Corruption?

Settle down

2 loanees basically won us the SC

I don't remember reading about corruption back then

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkWe were in a different league then as were Rangers. Remember, had we played Celtic in the final then Henderson and Stokes wouldn't have played.

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[Onceinawhile]

Are there different rules in Europe about this? Seems relatively common for players to play against their parent club, Coutinho against Barcelona being the latest example.

Think so, it all came about when courtois was at atletico on loan from Chelsea. Chelsea tried to ban him from playing and eufa told them to gtf.

[brog]

I don't think it's that McCrorie improves Rangers. It's that he improves Aberdeen when playing Celtic but not against Rangers. If he becomes a regular at Aberdeen then Rangers will effectively play a weakened and disrupted Aberdeen team. Big advantage for them in those games. SFA/SPFL really need to do something about it.

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That's a decent point but in Hun folklore the Sheep lie down to Celtc anyway so it would seem unlikely to change things that much.

[Jim44]

It's not corrupt, it's simply business. If Aberdeen have got the player then their negotiation skills proved better than ours.

I think it is breaking employment law to prevent a player, you’re selling, from playing against you. I think the players union would have a thing or two to say about it. If Gerrard has been trying to engineer that situation, he should be hauled over the coals.

[inglisavhibs]

Roll on the next Josh Vela.
Do you really support Hibs?

[The Count]

Happens on all fan sites.When your team is after a player he is a good signing.When he decides to sign for another team he suddenly becomes rubbish !!!

[Jim44]

Corruption?

Settle down

2 loanees basically won us the SC

I don't remember reading about corruption back then

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There was nothing iffy about that. The point being discussed here is the sporting integrity of a selling club insisting on making a player ineligible to play against them.

[BoomtownHibees]

There was nothing iffy about that. The point being discussed here is the sporting integrity of a selling club insisting on making a player ineligible to play against them.

They’re not selling him yet though, he’s going on loan

[GreenCastle]

Happens on all fan sites.When your team is after a player he is a good signing.When he decides to sign for another team he suddenly becomes rubbish !!!

To be fair I think several posters including myself were never fully convinced it’s what we need to balance the team.

Of course I wouldn’t be complaining if he came but I would have prefered Docherty and Omeonga.

It’s obvious we have a missing piece in midfield but it’s finding the right player or players to compete and fill that gap.

I’m actually looking forward to having Mallan back involved - feels like he’s been out ages. Remember he can strike a ball and while he wasn’t perfect he’s decent for Hibs level.

But we still need a different type of player - surely the scouting team have a plan B and C here and hoping it’s not a Vela more a Gogic who adds an instant impact.

[Jim44]

They’re not selling him yet though, he’s going on loan

I know that. As a loanee, he can’t play against Rangers. Gerrard was apparently insisting he couldn’t play for us against Rangers if we had bought him.

[Crab apple]

I don't know much about RM but clearly our recruitment team and JR thought a lot of him. It's frustrating that they will have spent a lot of time on trying to get this over the line. Hopefully losing out again on a main target won't be a disruptive to our early season as losing Ojo to the Sheep was last year. Thankfully this year our other new signings seem to have settled in quickly so that should help. I also hope our plan B target is better than last year (Vela).

[Edinburgh Green]

If we are looking at other options. I hope we are looking at Jackson Irvine. Free transfer so we could pad out his wages in what we would of saved on the McRorie transfer fee. His attributes are a mix of McRorie and Docherty.

[Callum_62]

I know that. As a loanee, he can’t play against Rangers. Gerrard was apparently insisting he couldn’t play for us against Rangers if we had bought him.Sounds like total nonsense to me

No chance they can stipulate that on a sale

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[JDT]

If McCrorie is such a good player then why would rangers want to sell him, future Scotland captain according to some and they can't find a place on the bench for him? If we're willing to spend cash then they'll be others out there who'll do. I still think we'll sign another 3 if James, Murray and Mackie get moves away. Stephen McGinn in a whittaker kind of role being one, a centre half and another central midfielder

[CMurdoch]

Gutted that we appear to have lost Docherty.
Worth £400k all day and every day.
Would have been perfect alongside Gogic.

McCrorie, I am less bothered about because I haven't seen enough of him playing to pass judgement.
What I will say is that being the captain of the Scotland U21 is no great barometer of future success in the game. The likelihood is he will turn out to be a good professional but won't be much better than Hanlon.

Aberdeen are already paying good money every week to players they allegedly jumped in front of us for. Loads of money tanned and continuing to be tanned on McGeough, Ojo, Bryson with little return. Last season they tanned loads of money on James Wilson and this season Sam Cosgrove turned down a big money move and then proceeded to get a bad injury. 8 players now facing long bans and currently 10 points behind Hibs. Will be playing in their old dump for many years yet. Like Hearts they have tanned lots of money on very little and like Hearts they are still going nowhere fast.

Spend once and spend well, which leads back to Docherty. Should have made sure we got him. No happy, .........unless his heart was firmly set on 3rd tier football, down south :wink:.

P.S. I think there will be far more good players available than normal this transfer window so a good chance we can still pull a big rabbit out the hat. Fingers crossed for a non Vela!

[MWHIBBIES]

I know that. As a loanee, he can’t play against Rangers. Gerrard was apparently insisting he couldn’t play for us against Rangers if we had bought him.

He could insist all he liked. That was never happening. Look at the Courtious situation for Atletico vs Chelsea a few years ago. Was laughed out of court and he was allowed to play.

[H18 SFR]

Blown away by Aberdeen once again. Pathetic.

Not having as much money as someone else doesn't make you pathetic. I got outbid for an item on Ebay at the weekend, I don't feel pathetic.

[Jim44]

Sounds like total nonsense to me

No chance they can stipulate that on a sale

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Exactly. And that’s why the sale to Hibs has apparently fallen through. We know that JR and RG were keen and fairly confident of getting him and I believe McCrorie was keen on the move. Gerrard was playing silly buggers and has managed to solve the situation with a loan/option to buy deal with Aberdeen. No doubt the money situation will have helped McCrorie to move north.

[Since452]

Docherty was a non starter by all accounts. Wanted to move down south. McCrorie was wanted by Ross at Hibs and Sunderland so I'm dissspointed for him he didn't get his man. We move on.

[Aldo]

For me it reeks of desperation if Gerrard doesn’t want a player sold to another Scottish team that strengthens them and then doesn’t want him to play against them.

Under pressure big time!


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[Jim44]

He could insist all he liked. That was never happening. Look at the Courtious situation for Atletico vs Chelsea a few years ago. Was laughed out of court and he was allowed to play.

Yes, I agree he could insist all he liked and it was never happening, but Gerrard’s stubornness was strong enough to dump the deal and get the Aberdeen deal up and running.

[Hibs90]

Dundee Utd going for Jamie Murphy

[Ozyhibby]

They will just give him a massive signing on fee instead


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Signing on fees count towards the salary cap.


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[Heisenberg]

Dundee Utd going for Jamie Murphy

Would be a good signing for them.

[RossScott1991]

All the rumours floating about over Aberdeen players the covid8 having contracts terminated. Bryson, McGeouch etc.

If that’s true... does anyone reckon may try sign McGeouch on a free or has that ship fully sailed..

[NC1875]

Anyone else think the Aberdeen story could be a lot of crap in the hope Hibs come in with an improved offer. It was the Daily Ranger that broke the story after all

[oneone73]

Anyone else think the Aberdeen story could be a lot of crap in the hope Hibs come in with an improved offer. It was the Daily Ranger that broke the story after all

No, I wouldn't think so.

[Jim44]

Anyone else think the Aberdeen story could be a lot of crap in the hope Hibs come in with an improved offer. It was the Daily Ranger that broke the story after all

No, he’s Aberdeen bound.

[Wilson]

Anyone else think the Aberdeen story could be a lot of crap in the hope Hibs come in with an improved offer. It was the Daily Ranger that broke the story after all

Erm.

I think Aberdeen being in for Ojo and offering better wages to McGeogh is also crap. Now I'm away outside where the skies are green and it's raining chocolate buttons. Don't want to miss my date with Morena Baccarin....

[04Sauzee]

All the rumours floating about over Aberdeen players the covid8 having contracts terminated. Bryson, McGeouch etc.

If that’s true... does anyone reckon may try sign McGeouch on a free or has that ship fully sailed..
Seen the rumours regarding sackings but I'm doubting it after the statement at the weekend regarding heavy fines and the money going to the NHS

Edit just seen this on twitter

Apparently Devlin and Bryson refusing the Covid fines so they’re away.

McRorie deal now done.

[King Cosell]

If we are looking at other options. I hope we are looking at Jackson Irvine. Free transfer so we could pad out his wages in what we would of saved on the McRorie transfer fee. His attributes are a mix of McRorie and Docherty.

Don't know much about him but it sounds good to me. If wage can be matched with signing-on fee, I think a lot of players would rather be at Hibs, raising their profile, challenging for trophies & Europe, big games at Ibrox & Parkhead, than in the bottom half of the Championship going nowhere.

[CMurdoch]

For me it reeks of desperation if Gerrard doesn’t want a player sold to another Scottish team that strengthens them and then doesn’t want him to play against them.

Under pressure big time!


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Not a case of not wanting to strengthen another team.
What Rangers want to do is increase the chance of another team taking points of Celtic this season but not to have said player play against them.
Accordingly transfer is a loan to end of season whereupon it becomes a permanent transfer with no wriggle room for either party.

[Callum_62]

Exactly. And that’s why the sale to Hibs has apparently fallen through. We know that JR and RG were keen and fairly confident of getting him and I believe McCrorie was keen on the move. Gerrard was playing silly buggers and has managed to solve the situation with a loan/option to buy deal with Aberdeen. No doubt the money situation will have helped McCrorie to move north.So we decided not for us coz we had to, erm... Buy him a few months done the line instead of today?

Also seems highly unlikely

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[.Sean.]

Hearts dont want Jason Cummings but hes "very keen" to sign for them, apparently.
Would 100% take him back here

[500miles]

Seen the rumours regarding sackings but I'm doubting it after the statement at the weekend regarding heavy fines and the money going to the NHS

Edit just seen this on twitter

Apparently Devlin and Bryson refusing the Covid fines so they’re away.

McRorie deal now done.

If the Devlin thing is true, I hope we make contact.

[Aldo]

Not a case of not wanting to strengthen another team.
What Rangers want to do is increase the chance of another team taking points of Celtic this season but not to have said player play against them.
Accordingly transfer is a loan to end of season whereupon it becomes a permanent transfer with no wriggle room for either party.

Indeed it is however still reeks of desperation to prevent 10 in a row!

Anything to gain an advantage


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[Robbo6-2]

Aberdeen are miles off it and won't take points off Celtic because Ross Mcrorie can play against them and he wont make that much of a difference when playing vs Rangers.

If he moves to them, good luck to him. They are absolute gang and another one who will get a sore neck watchin the ball punted above his head for 90mins

[oneone73]

If the Devlin thing is true, I hope we make contact.

He's due an eight-game ban, isn't he? No thanks

[Stuart93]

Aberdeen are miles off it and won't take points off Celtic because Ross Mcrorie can play against them and he wont make that much of a difference when playing vs Rangers.

If he moves to them, good luck to him. They are absolute gang and anotherone who will get a sore neck watchin the ball punted above his neck for 90mins

To be fair, are we really in a position to slag their style of play?

Our midfielders will no doubt have a sore neck today after watching the ball being punted from defence to attack by us on Saturday. Not the way I want to see us play.

[The Modfather]

Seen the rumours regarding sackings but I'm doubting it after the statement at the weekend regarding heavy fines and the money going to the NHS

Edit just seen this on twitter

Apparently Devlin and Bryson refusing the Covid fines so they’re away.

McRorie deal now done.

It may be that he’s been poor for Aberdeen and if he had been any good they’d not, apparently, be looking to sack him, but I thought Devlin was good for Hamilton and started off well at Aberdeen. Could be a good signing to replace Jackson if he’s free.

[sean04]

Has anybody heard who the alternative options are? Omeonga seems to fit the bill, Young international player who will only improve.

[jacomo]

Can’t stand each other is Panto!!!

McInness is a huge Hun... while he is the manager there will always be a blue nosed love in!!!


He turned down the Rangers job though. Wouldn’t have though the Huns will forgive him for that.

[04Sauzee]

It may be that he’s been poor for Aberdeen and if he had been any good they’d not, apparently, be looking to sack him, but I thought Devlin was good for Hamilton and started off well at Aberdeen. Could be a good signing to replace Jackson if he’s free.
I thought he was highly rated at Hamilton, can't remember him much at Aberdeen just thought they were defensively poor. Think he's a left footed Centr Back which would give competition for Hanlon can definitely play in a 4 or a 3. He has got 3 caps for Scotland as well?
Just doesn't excite me probably becuase I know very little about him

Also I just don't think Hibs would be after him.

[GreenCastle]

He turned down the Rangers job though. Wouldn’t have though the Huns will forgive him for that.

They are happy he never took it in the end - though unless SG wins the title this season he will be goner so..

[jeffers]

Has anybody heard who the alternative options are? Omeonga seems to fit the bill, Young international player who will only improve.

I imagine we’ll be doing everything we can to keep any other targets out of the press until they are actually signed. I’d like Omeonga back, think he’s got the potential to be a great signing but I get the feeling JR isn’t so keen.

[Ozyhibby]

I imagine we’ll be doing everything we can to keep any other targets out of the press until they are actually signed. I’d like Omeonga back, think he’s got the potential to be a great signing but I get the feeling JR isn’t so keen.

He was poor in his last spell and Ross hardly used him. He’s not coming back.


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[keep the faith]

I imagine we’ll be doing everything we can to keep any other targets out of the press until they are actually signed. I’d like Omeonga back, think he’s got the potential to be a great signing but I get the feeling JR isn’t so keen.

Yeah I thought we suddenly picked up pace when Stephane played. Great attitude, always involved and a very clever player who I think would work well in this team.

[jeffers]

He was poor in his last spell and Ross hardly used him. He’s not coming back.


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He was but I saw enough in his first spell to impress me.

[Jim44]

So we decided not for us coz we had to, erm... Buy him a few months done the line instead of today?

Also seems highly unlikely

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I don’t think it was us who pulled out of the deal. I think our pitch was probably always a permanent deal, with no loan/option to buy arrangement. Gerrard has managed to turn McCrorie’s head with an Aberdeen loan/option to buy. Why we didn’t get the chance to do a loan/option to buy arrangement is unknown but we can all speculate why.

[GreenCastle]

He was poor in his last spell and Ross hardly used him. He’s not coming back.


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Didn’t have a pre-season and didn’t get a chance to play.

He’s a player - energy - good on ball and closes players down.

He would be improve us. If we can’t get him we need something similar if we want to improve.

[Jim44]

He was poor in his last spell and Ross hardly used him. He’s not coming back.


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:agree: I heard that JR wasn’t impressed with his work rate.

[mentalhibee]

He was poor in his last spell and Ross hardly used him. He’s not coming back.


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He wasn’t poor he just didn’t really get a run of games. Can’t see him coming back as like you said Ross didn’t play him.

[04Sauzee]

:agree: I heard that JR wasn’t impressed with his work rate.
I heard that JR was trying to get Cattermole in the building and that Cattermole was desperate to sign and would play for next to nothing. This was before Gogic came in and Cattermole has since retired from football 😅
Don't beleive everything you hear

[AlbertK86]

I know that. As a loanee, he can’t play against Rangers. Gerrard was apparently insisting he couldn’t play for us against Rangers if we had bought him.

Says who ?


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[keep the faith]

:agree: I heard that JR wasn’t impressed with his work rate.

What???? He worked his socks off last season. I think there is no chance jack ross thought that. He may not fancy him as a player, but one thing he did do was work

[Centre Hawf]

Would have really liked McCrorie, his flexibility to play in midfield and in the back 3 or 4 would have been a huge asset to us for the season and changing our shape mid game. He's also just a really decent player with potential to get better and better. Like many others have said hopefully for Aberdeen he ends up getting any football knocked out of him and becomes another McInness caveman.

[Jim44]

Says who ?


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Rumours, I suppose. Just like the rumours that the deal with us was almost over the line.

[green day]

I know that. As a loanee, he can’t play against Rangers. Gerrard was apparently insisting he couldn’t play for us against Rangers if we had bought him.

I think you are right. This was mentioned days ago and I called it bull**** (because we were buying him).

Sounds very much like rangers were never wanting to sell for this season, just a loan with an option which is what Aberdeen have taken.

Quite happy we stood our ground, tbh.

[Heisenberg]

Journalist confirms that SG was keen that RM didn’t play against them this season. £350k which we would’ve matched.

https://twitter.com/c_enicolson/status/1295332263752871936?s=21

[Stuart93]

Journalist confirms that SG was keen that RM didn’t play against them this season. £350k which we would’ve matched.

https://twitter.com/c_enicolson/status/1295332263752871936?s=21

I’d say well done hibs for sticking to their guns if that’s true.

[Alex Trager]

Hearts dont want Jason Cummings but hes "very keen" to sign for them, apparently.

Would be good to get him in as another option up top

[Largshibby]

This. Dave Cormack bankrolls the lot of it.

If it weren't for him we'd p!ss all over them financially.

Correct. In any case Aberdeen are a basket case right now. Up to 3 fixtures behind the rest of the league, all their strikers with long-term injuries, bulk of the first team squad about to be suspended and supporters who are revolting (I know!) because of player behaviour. I don't know anything about McCrorie but if he wants to go to Aberdeen thats fine its a complete graveyard for midfielders and he'll do well to make a difference. This feels more like desperation to get the fans back onside.

[JohnMcM]

I don’t think it was us who pulled out of the deal. I think our pitch was probably always a permanent deal, with no loan/option to buy arrangement. Gerrard has managed to turn McCrorie’s head with an Aberdeen loan/option to buy. Why we didn’t get the chance to do a loan/option to buy arrangement is unknown but we can all speculate why.

20th May 2016:greengrin

[we are hibs]

So Gerrard claims one day he doesnt want a loan move for him then the next hes away on loan. Just typical of that gob*****.

[Spudster]

Correct. In any case Aberdeen are a basket case right now. Up to 3 fixtures behind the rest of the league, all their strikers with long-term injuries, bulk of the first team squad about to be suspended and supporters who are revolting (I know!) because of player behaviour. I don't know anything about McCrorie but if he wants to go to Aberdeen thats fine its a complete graveyard for midfielders and he'll do well to make a difference. This feels more like desperation to get the fans back onside.

Aberdeen loaning a Rangers player to get the fans back onside :confused: They are raging with this deal!

[The 90+2]

20th May 2016:greengrin

21 👌

[tonyrougier123]

:agree: I heard that JR wasn’t impressed with his work rate.

Some folk will spraff anything on here eh?😏

[GreenCastle]

Seems he’s gone for 350k.

Probably saved quite a bit of money if the Aberdeen fallout stories are true and they have freed up some wages.

[CMurdoch]

Indeed it is however still reeks of desperation to prevent 10 in a row!

Anything to gain an advantage


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Desperation and anything to gain an advantage is exactly what it is.

As an aside, outside Rangers and Celtic no other team/supporters thinks 10 in a row is a big deal especially given that only one party was present most of the time.
Kudos is only available in Europe for both of these teams.

[MrSmith]

Erm.

I think Aberdeen being in for Ojo and offering better wages to McGeogh is also crap. Now I'm away outside where the skies are green and it's raining chocolate buttons. Don't want to miss my date with Morena Baccarin....

To late :D

[virtualhibby]

Not having as much money as someone else doesn't make you pathetic. I got outbid for an item on Ebay at the weekend, I don't feel pathetic.

To be fair all of the other players we have lost out on to Aberdeen in recent times have been bullets dodged. Even McGeouch is a bit of a flop

[MWHIBBIES]

Should've agreed then just played him anyway. Not a thing they could do to stop us.

[Ozyhibby]

To be fair all of the other players we have lost out on to Aberdeen in recent times have been bullets dodged. Even McGeouch is a bit of a flop

We didn’t really dodge the Ojo bullet though because we signed Vela instead.


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[MrSmith]

If McCrorie was keen on a move to us, he'd be here as could easily say no to Aberdeen - his choice! I'm really not bothered because I only want players who want to be here and for me, that a big NO to Dylan - his ship has sailed and our treatment room needs to stay empty. I feel for Jack Ross as he obviously saw McCrorie as a player for his team but that's how it all works. NEXT as Alex Harvey would scream!

[ElginHibbie]

If turns out to be a loan with an obligation to buy at the end of it for Aberdeen, that really would be an embarrassment, letting Rangers dictate terms like that

[KingPat4]

If McCrorie was keen on a move to us, he'd be here as could easily say no to Aberdeen - his choice! I'm really not bothered because I only want players who want to be here and for me, that a big NO to Dylan - his ship has sailed and our treatment room needs to stay empty. I feel for Jack Ross as he obviously saw McCrorie as a player for his team but that's how it all works. NEXT as Alex Harvey would scream!

Who does Harvey play for? Is he a midfielder?

[The 90+2]

If McCrorie was keen on a move to us, he'd be here as could easily say no to Aberdeen - his choice! I'm really not bothered because I only want players who want to be here and for me, that a big NO to Dylan - his ship has sailed and our treatment room needs to stay empty. I feel for Jack Ross as he obviously saw McCrorie as a player for his team but that's how it all works. NEXT as Alex Harvey would scream!

We haven’t agreed a deal with the huns, we could still try to seal the deal but it doesn’t look like it’s going to happen. The boy wants to leave them and Aberdeen now looks the only viable option.

[Largshibby]

Aberdeen loaning a Rangers player to get the fans back onside :confused: They are raging with this deal!

Football fans rarely see the things that improve their club in the way that professional managers and coaches do. I hate rangers 2012 as much as anyone but if we got one of their players and it improved our team I would happily accept that.

[h1bs4life]

I would rather we didnt have any dealings with these Hun #####.
With McRorie going on loan looks like there was never any chance of either him or Docherty who I would have preferred on permanent deals.
No idea why we took Middleton couple of years ago rumour was he had same agent as Heckingbottom.
They had obviously tapped up Kamberi before his loan deal and it looks like we put Docherty in the shop window for them.
Hopefully this will be a lesson to Ross and Gordon not to talk about players until signed even if clubs mentioned bids are in .
Huns are still hurting over Scott Allen transfer and seeing how there only honour in there short history is the Petrofac Cup really hurting over 21/05/16.
3-2 ya Hun tramps.

[04Sauzee]

STV reporter on twitter

Michael Devlin and Craig Bryson are at training this morning as per usual.


Looks like the sacking rumours may be a little premature

[04Sauzee]

EXCLUSIVE: Dundee United set to move for Rangers striker Jamie Murphy

https://t.co/OX89NETaks https://t.co/QUL5dxULCG

[mcfly]

This sorry saga just emphasises the fact that we never do business with The rangers ever again. We never agree to sell a player to them unless it’s the full fee up front.

If McCrorie had wanted to sign for us he would have end of.

Gogic will welcome him at Easter road in a fortnight. I’m sure of it

[The Modfather]

If McCrorie was keen on a move to us, he'd be here as could easily say no to Aberdeen - his choice! I'm really not bothered because I only want players who want to be here and for me, that a big NO to Dylan - his ship has sailed and our treatment room needs to stay empty. I feel for Jack Ross as he obviously saw McCrorie as a player for his team but that's how it all works. NEXT as Alex Harvey would scream!

As an irrelevant aside, “Next” was actually a Jacques Brel song that Alex Harvey covered 🤓

[houstonhibbee]

Who does Harvey play for? Is he a midfielder?
Sensational by all accounts.......

[Spike Mandela]

This sorry saga just emphasises the fact that we never do business with The rangers ever again. We never agree to sell a player to them unless it’s the full fee up front.

If McCrorie had wanted to sign for us he would have end of.

Gogic will welcome him at Easter road in a fortnight. I’m sure of it

Rangers have no obligation to sell him to us as we didn’t have any to sell Scott Allan to them. Business is business.

You do what is needed to get the deal done but ultimately it’s up to the player, if he wants to come here he will.

[HendoDelivered]

EXCLUSIVE: Dundee United set to move for Rangers striker Jamie Murphy

https://t.co/OX89NETaks https://t.co/QUL5dxULCG

Top signing for them if it comes off.

[Jim44]

EXCLUSIVE: Dundee United set to move for Rangers striker Jamie Murphy

https://t.co/OX89NETaks https://t.co/QUL5dxULCG

I heard that we were interested in him but I suppose our fragile relations with Rangers are now non existent so we can forget that one. :greengrin

[CMurdoch]

As an irrelevant aside, “Next” was actually a Jacques Brel song that Alex Harvey covered 🤓

"Au suivant"

[H18S NX]

Should have stopped dealing with the huns after Colin Stein.

[Jim44]

:agree: I heard that JR wasn’t impressed with his work rate.


Some folk will spraff anything on here eh?😏

Can I rephrase my comment as I agree that Omeonga’s work rate was good. I should have said that heard that JR wasn’t impressed by his nett contribution.

[MrSmith]

As an irrelevant aside, “Next” was actually a Jacques Brel song that Alex Harvey covered 🤓

love been corrected by facts :greengrin

[Greenio]

Oddly annoyed at this seeing as I know less than two fifths of f*** aw about McRorie.

Interested to know what type of role he was supposed to fill though?

I thought this guy was being brought in to harden up our midfield a bit but then folk talking about Omeonga as an option B, which isn't that.?

What are we missing or is it this just a better version of Halberg were after?

[makaveli1875]

Oddly annoyed at this seeing as I know less than two fifths of f*** aw about McRorie.

Interested to know what type of role he was supposed to fill though?

I thought this guy was being brought in to harden up our midfield a bit but then folk talking about Omeonga as an option B, which isn't that.?

What are we missing or is it this just a better version of Halberg were after?

When he 1st broke into the rangers team they were playing him at centre back , he now appears to play as a defensive midfielder

[04Sauzee]

👀👀

Done deal! Aaron #Hickey to #BayernMunich from #Hearts. 5-year contract. All confirmed! #transfers
👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻

[Clarence]

Oddly annoyed at this seeing as I know less than two fifths of f*** aw about McRorie.

Interested to know what type of role he was supposed to fill though?

I thought this guy was being brought in to harden up our midfield a bit but then folk talking about Omeonga as an option B, which isn't that.?

What are we missing or is it this just a better version of Halberg were after?

I'm with you on this one Greenio. I think people got excited by all the protestations (excuse the phrasing) of the The Rangers fans when it looked like we were going to sign him but I didn't really see why we needed him unless he was going to be one half of Beebop and Rocksteady with Gogic in midfield but we don't need or necessarily want that. Unless we need a new Slivka to be jack of all trades and master of none.

[tonyrougier123]

Oddly annoyed at this seeing as I know less than two fifths of f*** aw about McRorie.

Interested to know what type of role he was supposed to fill though?

I thought this guy was being brought in to harden up our midfield a bit but then folk talking about Omeonga as an option B, which isn't that.?

What are we missing or is it this just a better version of Halberg were after?
Ppl have short memories,after Lennon left omeonga was given and grasped with both hands his opportunity .
He was key to us moving away from the relegation zone that season,extremely tenacious and comfortable on the ball,hecky was quoted as saying omeonga was his best defender at times.so while some believe Steph doesn’t shore us up in the middle,the evidence on last year proves he did.and by the way with injuries and no Scott Allan it was a brutal midfield btw.omeonga wasny just class,he was pure class!!

[Greenbeard]

As an irrelevant aside, “Next” was actually a Jacques Brel song that Alex Harvey covered 🤓
Brilliantly.

[Greenbeard]

Ppl have short memories,after Lennon left omeonga was given and grasped with both hands his opportunity .
He was key to us moving away from the relegation zone that season,extremely tenacious and comfortable on the ball,hecky was quoted as saying omeonga was his best defender at times.so while some believe Steph doesn’t shore us up in the middle,the evidence on last year proves he did.and by the way with injuries and no Scott Allan it was a brutal midfield btw.omeonga wasny just class,he was pure class!!
He was a wee bit rusty second time round but I agree - class player. Big fan but just not sure if he is what we need to properly balance the midfield. We need someone who can put their foot on the ball and dictate.

[Kato]

As an irrelevant aside, “Next” was actually a Jacques Brel song that Alex Harvey covered [emoji851]...and further to that it was the Scott Walker translation that Alex Harvey covered.

I hope our next dealing with The Rangers is non-existent btw.

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[tonyrougier123]

He was a wee bit rusty second time round but I agree - class player. Big fan but just not sure if he is what we need to properly balance the midfield. We need someone who can put their foot on the ball and dictate.

He finds himself high up the park at times,I think gogic would lighten the load for him.but I totally get what your saying beard.

[Callum_62]

I'm with you on this one Greenio. I think people got excited by all the protestations (excuse the phrasing) of the The Rangers fans when it looked like we were going to sign him but I didn't really see why we needed him unless he was going to be one half of Beebop and Rocksteady with Gogic in midfield but we don't need or necessarily want that. Unless we need a new Slivka to be jack of all trades and master of none.Our manager wanted him

That's all that matters really

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[BlackSheep]

Corruption?

Settle down

2 loanees basically won us the SC

I don't remember reading about corruption back then

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It’s not a question about the lob system it’s a question of how Huns and Dons have used it to gain an advantage in an underhanded way... if this year wasn’t 10 in a row then things would be different!!

I hope Celtic smash this league now! Or us.... 😂🙈

[Since452]

It’s not a question about the lob system it’s a question of how Huns and Dons have used it to gain an advantage in an underhanded way... if this year wasn’t 10 in a row then things would be different!!

I hope Celtic smash this league now! Or us.... 😂🙈

Hearts have been using the lob system for years

[Greenbeard]

He was a wee bit rusty second time round but I agree - class player. Big fan but just not sure if he is what we need to properly balance the midfield. We need someone who can put their foot on the ball and dictate.
So if Liam Henderson has been playing that role could he be the man for us? But at what cost?

[BlackSheep]

Hearts have been using the lob system for years

Lol... damn autocorrect!

[badabing67]

He is not worth 400k anyway.

Rangers paid 600k for him

[BlackSheep]

I do think a fair few on here are being short sighted with this... it’s a definite case of giving into The Mighty Rangers demands on Aberdeen’s part.... the subject of not allowing a player to play should never have been a stipulation of a permanent transfer. If rangers had said they were happy to do a loan with first dibs on RM or even a delayed signing then it would have looked so much more above board, but to make demands to one team then move the goalposts to another is sickening...

...perhaps some retribution for the Allan saga?

[BlackSheep]

If it comes out that Hibs were the ones to make the call then that is fair enough, Jack Ross and Ron Gordon will have made their decision and must see others as a better package... but until then (which may be never) we all live wondering how it’s happened again.

I’ve heard Messi wants out of Barca.... maybe that has sparked our interest 😂😂😂

[GloryGlory]

Hearts have been using the lob system for years

Hoooooofffffffffffball!!!!!! :greengrin

[badabing67]

Has anybody heard who the alternative options are? Omeonga seems to fit the bill, Young international player who will only improve.

Think the best bet would be a pre-contract in January, I think he will be here its just a matter of when.

[Jones28]

Is it confirmed yet?

[BoyledEgg]

Is it confirmed yet?

Nah. I think the move to Hibs could still be on.

[Since452]

The thing I was liking about McCrorie, without knowing too much about him, was that he is match ready. Had a full pre season playing games for the huns. The likes of Omeonga would be rusty and that's not what we need.

[Ozyhibby]

Nah. I think the move to Hibs could still be on.

I’m still hopeful as well.


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[Just_Jimmy]

I don't actually care if we sign RM as I know nothing about him as a player. My only concern would be if we did we'd have beaten the sheep to one finally. So for that reason I'd like to sign him.

I'd take omeonga back in a hib-beat

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[Speedway]

Omeonga is mince. He can’t hold down a place no matter what club he’s at.

JR didn’t rate him either.

What do we all like about him apart from being able to play the piano solo in ‘Vienna’?

[Alfred E Newman]

Hoooooofffffffffffball!!!!!! :greengrin

Yes,I was watching it on Saturday!

[Since452]

Omeonga is mince. He can’t hold down a place no matter what club he’s at.

JR didn’t rate him either.

What do we all like about him apart from being able to play the piano solo in ‘Vienna’?

Sadly that's where I'm at. Not good enough, slow and built like the gable end of a fiver.

[Lee Marvin]

Not going to lie, I am gutted about this development. Has the potential to be a future Scotland internationalist (doesn't mean he will be of course).

However, after watching us against Motherwell I think we need an all round midfielder who can keep the ball. Gogic and McCrorie would make us hard to beat, but we would struggle to dominate games against the smaller teams.

He would have been a great player for the squad though. Very disappointing. I bet Ross is livid.

[SweetDreams]

Omeonga is mince. He can’t hold down a place no matter what club he’s at.

JR didn’t rate him either.

What do we all like about him apart from being able to play the piano solo in ‘Vienna’?

:hilarious

[SweetDreams]

EXCLUSIVE: Dundee United set to move for Rangers striker Jamie Murphy

https://t.co/OX89NETaks https://t.co/QUL5dxULCG

I thought The Rangers didn't really like Dundee Utd, would be surprised if they did business with them.

[04Sauzee]

I thought The Rangers didn't really like Dundee Utd, would be surprised if they did business with them.

Funnily enough I was about to post this

Dundee United still working on James Norwood deal but Jamie Murphy less likely to arrive at Tannadice https://t.co/nx1BNPLIN0 https://t.co/NsHgI19Q1N

[Iain G]

Is it confirmed yet?

I think very few transfers involving the Rangers are ever confirmed? More of a Celtic thing :greengrin

[SweetDreams]

McCrorie would be Aberdeen's first signing from Rangers/The Rangers in 51 years. The lengths they will go through to stop us signing our targets.

[SHODAN]

McCrorie would be Aberdeen's first signing from Rangers/The Rangers in 51 years. The lengths they will go through to stop us signing our targets.

Andrius Velicka?

[HendoDelivered]

McCrorie would be Aberdeen's first signing from Rangers/The Rangers in 51 years. The lengths they will go through to stop us signing our targets.

Andrius Velicka back in 2010... was that really 51 years ago? Crikey!!!

[04Sauzee]

Andrius Velicka?

Maybe first permanent? Velika a loan?

[CropleyWasGod]

McCrorie would be Aberdeen's first signing from Rangers/The Rangers in 51 years. The lengths they will go through to stop us signing our targets.

Aberdeen or Rangers?