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04Sauzee
23-08-2020, 08:40 PM
My hun mate reckons we have asked about Greg Stewart.
Came of the bench for Rangers yesterday
Smartie
23-08-2020, 08:47 PM
Composure and ability to retain the ball and recycle it in midfield is desperately required.
Right now if you press us at all well we will print it under pressure.
Funnily enough, I always thought that was one of Slivka's strengths.
I wonder how he might have got on in that "3rd central midfielder" role along with Gogic and Allan?
badabing67
23-08-2020, 08:48 PM
We need a couple of box to box midfielders. But there hard to find. I think Omeonga would improve the midfield. But doubt we can get him before January as usual. Does anyone know if we're going to give Stephen McGinn a contract as a player or staff.
badabing67
23-08-2020, 08:53 PM
Funnily enough, I always thought that was one of Slivka's strengths.
I wonder how he might have got on in that "3rd central midfielder" role along with Gogic and Allan?
I think he has the technical attributes to be a good footballer but lacked ambition, fight, passion and desire tbh I don't think we look like we miss him. If he had the qualities above he could be a very effective footbal player. But didn't show them unfortunately.
Souter96Mac
23-08-2020, 09:09 PM
My hun mate reckons we have asked about Greg Stewart.
Would defo take Stewart. If we could get him and a central mid in, then reckon we'd be laughing
Onceinawhile
23-08-2020, 09:21 PM
He is probably way out of our price range, but I'd love to see us approach Jackson Irvine.
Still pretty young and probably looking for a big wage, but I think it's worth asking him.
There's every chance we've spoken to him and he's laughed us out the room tbf.
Robbo6-2
23-08-2020, 09:24 PM
Irvine would of been on big money at Hull.
Cant see us getting close to anything like the wages he would want.
keep the faith
23-08-2020, 09:26 PM
We need a couple of box to box midfielders. But there hard to find. I think Omeonga would improve the midfield. But doubt we can get him before January as usual. Does anyone know if we're going to give Stephen McGinn a contract as a player or staff.
I know he is not flavour of the month with many anymore but I think stephane is an ideal perm signing for us. Energy, fight and great technical ability. Still very young too.
JohnM1875
23-08-2020, 09:28 PM
I know he is not flavour of the month with many anymore but I think stephane is an ideal perm signing for us. Energy, fight and great technical ability. Still very young too.
Agreed. Would love to have him at Hibs permanently.
Unseen work
23-08-2020, 09:36 PM
I know he is not flavour of the month with many anymore but I think stephane is an ideal perm signing for us. Energy, fight and great technical ability. Still very young too.
One thing I wouldn’t describe him as having is great technical ability. Think he can be very poor and sloppy in possession.
Lots of energy and work rate but we need different and better than him imo.
04Sauzee
23-08-2020, 09:37 PM
Sun reports
EXCLUSIVE: Celtic set to land David Turnbull in £3million transfer from Motherwell
https://t.co/GzlLp2HtoZ https://t.co/u96Qs8p44y
Hibee Mac
23-08-2020, 09:37 PM
I know he is not flavour of the month with many anymore but I think stephane is an ideal perm signing for us. Energy, fight and great technical ability. Still very young too.Stephane proved to me during the abysmal Hearts game that he, along with the rest of that midfield, cannot cope when being pressed. There is a lack of composure there and I'm not sure we can do with having yet another midfielder of that mould.
I do like Stephane but I don't think he is what we need.
04Sauzee
23-08-2020, 09:46 PM
The sun
EXCLUSIVE: Rangers aim to re-open Alfredo Morelos transfer talks with Lille as they look to offload striker
https://t.co/Ippwda7VJ8 https://t.co/Wa00qpSP8y
Iain G
24-08-2020, 06:45 AM
Stephane proved to me during the abysmal Hearts game that he, along with the rest of that midfield, cannot cope when being pressed. There is a lack of composure there and I'm not sure we can do with having yet another midfielder of that mould.
I do like Stephane but I don't think he is what we need.
We need a Guillam Beuzelin in there to take the ball from deep and hold onto it and keep us moving.
Since452
24-08-2020, 07:01 AM
Stephane proved to me during the abysmal Hearts game that he, along with the rest of that midfield, cannot cope when being pressed. There is a lack of composure there and I'm not sure we can do with having yet another midfielder of that mould.
I do like Stephane but I don't think he is what we need.
Agree. Omeonga decent at winning second balls but completely lost when pressed. Looked like he was running through treacle and easily brushed off the ball too. The derby reminded me of one around 2009. Totally bullied. Thank him for his contribution first time round but like you say, not what we need now.
sean04
24-08-2020, 07:43 AM
We need a Guillam Beuzelin in there to take the ball from deep and hold onto it and keep us moving.
Would love that
Gaffer1875
24-08-2020, 07:57 AM
Would love that
Cough Dylan McGeouch cough [emoji6]
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My old man
24-08-2020, 10:35 AM
Cough Dylan McGeouch cough [emoji6]
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forget the coronavirus cough
He’s exactly the type of player we need
to try a cheeky offer
GGTTH
forget the coronavirus cough
He’s exactly the type of player we need
to try a cheeky offer
GGTTH
We already have loads of players who were great three years ago and now can't get a game.
Borderhibbie76
24-08-2020, 11:04 AM
forget the coronavirus cough
He’s exactly the type of player we need
to try a cheeky offer
GGTTH
Can we please get over this obsession with re-signing ex players a la Dylan and Omeonga
sean04
24-08-2020, 11:06 AM
Don’t think McGeouch is the answer tbh. Think we are looking for somebody a bit more robust and solid. Would love to get somebody who can carry the ball forward and drive us up the park
500miles
24-08-2020, 11:09 AM
Can we please get over this obsession with re-signing ex players a la Dylan and Omeonga
I'd be happy if we could find a player who can recycle the ball and take it in under pressure like Mcgeouch can, but I don't know one that we could afford, so I think it's perfectly reasonable suggestion to be honest.
MWHIBBIES
24-08-2020, 11:14 AM
Can we please get over this obsession with re-signing ex players a la Dylan and Omeonga
Why?
Franck Stanton
24-08-2020, 11:15 AM
McAllister from St Mirren would be a good acquisition. Strong on the ball, doesn't panic under pressure & looks like the type of player we need.
Always been impressed with him whenever I have seen him. Sure he wouldn't be out of our price range.
Scottie
24-08-2020, 11:23 AM
Why?
Because its boring as ****. Every ex player has left for a reason. Plenty fish in the sea :wink:
BlackSheep
24-08-2020, 11:26 AM
Can we please get over this obsession with re-signing ex players a la Dylan and Omeonga
The thing is... there are a fair few ex-hibs players who are not yet passed it and could well fill the gaps we currently have.
Some players left us at times when the whole team wasn't doing well or at a time when they didn't quite fit the ethos of the manager.... but things change and right now there are a couple who may slot right in and be the player we are missing.
I for one, think McGeouch is one of those players and like others have posted he may be at a financial level we could afford and there is a slim chance he could become available.
The football game is one about face fitting... look at Lukaku and Sanchez at United, i just didn't come off for them... now look at them in Italy..... Different team, manager, style of play... and they're thriving... it doesn't mean they would be successful again an United, but if United played the way Inter are then yes it may well work.
So if a player like McGeouch or A. N. Other fits into Jack Ross' plans then i say why not? The added bonus is less time to settle back into life at Easter Road/East Mains.
Its not all nostalgia.
NOTE: I am well aware of McGeouch and Ross' prior relationship at Sunderland, but again, WE are a different team, he is managing us differently to Sunderland and the other personnel are different.
MWHIBBIES
24-08-2020, 11:27 AM
Because its boring as ****. Every ex player has left for a reason. Plenty fish in the sea :wink:
Yes. Kevin Nisbit was here as a kid so he's a ex player. Scott Allan will need to join him on the way out. Unfortunate but we cant be boring so we better get rid of 2 very exiting players.
Surely the quality of a player matters more than who they played for previous, regardless of it being us or Hearts or whoever?
:aok:
Can we please get over this obsession with re-signing ex players a la Dylan and Omeonga
keep the faith
24-08-2020, 11:42 AM
Blows my mind that some write off Omeonga and want Dylan back!!
Was always injured before and has barely played for the last 2 years!
MWHIBBIES
24-08-2020, 11:44 AM
Blows my mind that some write off Omeonga and want Dylan back!!
Was always injured before and has barely played for the last 2 years!
I do like Omeonga but McGeouch is far more the finished article.
He has also played more games than Omeonega has in the last 2 years.
Brightside
24-08-2020, 12:08 PM
Yes. Kevin Nisbit was here as a kid so he's a ex player. Scott Allan will need to join him on the way out. Unfortunate but we cant be boring so we better get rid of 2 very exiting players.
Surely the quality of a player matters more than who they played for previous, regardless of it being us or Hearts or whoever?
Claiming Nisbit as an ex player is a bit daft. He was just a wee boy.
HendoDelivered
24-08-2020, 12:11 PM
Blows my mind that some write off Omeonga and want Dylan back!!
Was always injured before and has barely played for the last 2 years!
He was actually fit more often than not, stats will tell you that. Yes, he was injured a bit but he got it sorted before his last season with us, played most games.
Hibee Mac
24-08-2020, 12:26 PM
I don't want McGeouch back and the sole reason is his injury record.
Lennon got him playing for one full season and that was when we really got to see what he was all about, he'd definitely shown glimpses previously but it didn't make up for the long injury layoffs.
I think we either got lucky that one season or Lennon somehow got into his head to get over the nigly injuries, whatever uou choose to believe I'd rather we didn't take the chance that it goes wrong.
King Cosell
24-08-2020, 12:28 PM
We're Aberdeen's arch-rivals, joint favourites for top 3, they're not going to give us McGeouch for free. They probably wouldn't sell, but if they did, we'd have to pay a significant transfer fee and match the wages they're giving him. He's done nothing for 2 year and he wouldn't be playing beside McGinn. It's a non-starter. Move on.
Leitherhibs
24-08-2020, 12:30 PM
We're Aberdeen's arch-rivals, joint favourites for top 3, they're not going to give us McGeouch for free. They probably wouldn't sell, but if they did, we'd have to pay a significant transfer fee and match the wages they're giving him. He's done nothing for 2 year and he wouldn't be playing beside McGinn. It's a non-starter. Move on.
This.
vercol36
24-08-2020, 12:42 PM
Luis Suarez potentially being released on free transfer by Barca. Could we squeeze him in somewhere?
Never played for Hibs, if that allays some posters' deepest fears.
King Cosell
24-08-2020, 12:47 PM
Luis Suarez potentially being released on free transfer by Barca. Could we squeeze him in somewhere?
Never played for Hibs, if that allays some posters' deepest fears.
Oh no, it's pun time. I can feel it in my water.
CMurdoch
24-08-2020, 12:49 PM
We already have loads of players who were great three years ago and now can't get a game.
:agree:
EI255
24-08-2020, 12:53 PM
Aberdeen is without doubt the most miserable city I've visited in the UK. I know Edinburgh and Glasgow have the rivalry and a few folk don't like the weedgies but give me a night out in Glasgow every day of the week over having to visit Aberdeen.Never been. Never want to visit it either. Horrible football stadium too.
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CockneyRebel
24-08-2020, 12:54 PM
Luis Suarez potentially being released on free transfer by Barca. Could we squeeze him in somewhere?
Never played for Hibs, if that allays some posters' deepest fears.
Bite me!
Unseen work
24-08-2020, 01:13 PM
McAllister from St Mirren would be a good acquisition. Strong on the ball, doesn't panic under pressure & looks like the type of player we need.
Always been impressed with him whenever I have seen him. Sure he wouldn't be out of our price range.
Kyle Mccalister? The winger/striker?
Or do you mean Cammy Macpherson?
HoboHarry
24-08-2020, 01:16 PM
Bite me!
Yer teeth are offside, yer teeth are offside.........
badabing67
24-08-2020, 01:23 PM
Luis Suarez potentially being released on free transfer by Barca. Could we squeeze him in somewhere?
Never played for Hibs, if that allays some posters' deepest fears.
He is old enough to be Defoe's backup, he knows the gaffer there as well.
we are hibs
24-08-2020, 01:24 PM
Suarez is going back to Ajax apparently
Green Cabbage 7
24-08-2020, 01:26 PM
The type of player we need in the middle of the park is another John Mcginn, a driving force. Certainly not mcgeouch. The other pieces are there it’s the engine to make it go that’s required. I would also like to see another physical player brought in similar to Gogic not the same but similar, still think we could do with a left winger too.
vercol36
24-08-2020, 01:47 PM
Bite me!
This is molar less what I expected from the punmeisters at Hibs.net
HoboHarry
24-08-2020, 01:49 PM
This is molar less what I expected from the punmeisters at Hibs.net
You must be long in the tooth to have such wisdom......
southern hibby
24-08-2020, 01:57 PM
Let’s be honest if we signed him it would just cause us ear ache.
GGTTH
Sudds_1
24-08-2020, 02:31 PM
Let’s be honest if we signed him it would just cause us ear ache.
GGTTH
Yeah....but he does have a bit of bite in him
04Sauzee
24-08-2020, 02:35 PM
Sky Sports Scotland
Celtic have made a renewed approach for Motherwell midfielder David Turnbull - with a fee close to being agreed
Leitherhibs
24-08-2020, 02:51 PM
With Turnbull going to Celtic I can see us signing the lad Ismaila Soro on loan for the season, he'll be right down the pecking order there I'd imagine..
04Sauzee
24-08-2020, 02:56 PM
With Turnbull going to Celtic I can see us signing the lad Ismaila Soro on loan for the season, he'll be right down the pecking order there I'd imagine..
Was looking at Him on YouTube earlier today. Const celtic a few quid and he didn't seem to have huge pedigree so was difficult to judge who he was playing against. He's a defensive midfield player but very slight, looks fairly quick and does like to travel with the ball.
MWHIBBIES
24-08-2020, 03:02 PM
Souttar out for another 6 months. Not had much luck since trying to maim Barker in the derby.
Gaffer1875
24-08-2020, 03:30 PM
We should try and get Luca Connell from Celtic, not got a look in but highly rated.
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KingPat4
24-08-2020, 03:34 PM
Loan players from Celtic? No chance, Lawell hates us.
04Sauzee
24-08-2020, 03:38 PM
We should try and get Luca Connell from Celtic, not got a look in but highly rated.
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Not sure how the Turnbull deal will be structured but you'd maybe think Motherwell may get a loan player for a season? They could get somebody like him or Henderson?
HoboHarry
24-08-2020, 03:42 PM
Loan players from Celtic? No chance, Lawell hates us.
Just curious, what do you base that on?
Clarence
24-08-2020, 03:56 PM
Just curious, what do you base that on?
I heard that Lawell blocked Scott Alan moving to us in January 2019 because he had “already done Hibs too many favours”. Source is Scott Allan on the Si Ferry podcast.
You’ve got to love the ugly sisters. Telling teams they won’t get their players on the cheap.... yet the try and screw us over
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Latapy'sVolley
24-08-2020, 04:22 PM
I heard that Lawell blocked Scott Alan moving to us in January 2019 because he had “already done Hibs too many favours”. Source is Scott Allan on the Si Ferry podcast.
Said the same thing again on the BBC pod last week
Eyrie
24-08-2020, 05:43 PM
Yeah....but he does have a bit of bite in him
I've missed the incisor wit of .net puns.
Eyrie
24-08-2020, 05:47 PM
I'm sceptical that McGeouch is what we need to complete our midfield. When you consider Gogic and the back four, that's six players who do 90% of their work in our own half and only four that play in the opponent's territory.
I'd rather have a box to box player who can help move us up the park and contribute more in the opposition half. And that means a new signing as neither Newell nor Hallberg is that type of player.
B.H.F.C
24-08-2020, 05:52 PM
I'm sceptical that McGeouch is what we need to complete our midfield. When you consider Gogic and the back four, that's six players who do 90% of their work in our own half and only four that play in the opponent's territory.
I'd rather have a box to box player who can help move us up the park and contribute more in the opposition half. And that means a new signing as neither Newell nor Hallberg is that type of player.
Not saying McGeough Is what we need, but if we had that type of player the defence and Gogic wouldn’t have to work quite so hard. We need someone, for me, that can get on the ball, keep it when needed and move it quickly when needed. Would let the whole team push up the park a bit, full backs hardly crossed the half way line yesterday.
IvanSproule
24-08-2020, 07:31 PM
God help me but would Andy Halliday be such a bad shout?
Covers midfield and defensive positions, like McCrorie.
mentalhibee
24-08-2020, 07:34 PM
With Turnbull going to Celtic I can see us signing the lad Ismaila Soro on loan for the season, he'll be right down the pecking order there I'd imagine..
He looked good against us in the pre season friendly.
Since452
24-08-2020, 07:35 PM
God help me but would Andy Halliday be such a bad shout?
Covers midfield and defensive positions, like McCrorie.
Think he'd be a terrific signing. The lad is a good player (boke).
Iggy Pope
24-08-2020, 07:35 PM
Souttar out for another 6 months. Not had much luck since trying to maim Barker in the derby.
He’s a nice lad though it seems :wink:
Unseen work
24-08-2020, 07:43 PM
God help me but would Andy Halliday be such a bad shout?
Covers midfield and defensive positions, like McCrorie.
Iv said on numerous occasions I would take him. Good defensively and on the ball, if we were going for him though you’d think we would have got him start of pre season.
Hope Ross has a couple of rabbits up his sleeve.
Speedway
24-08-2020, 08:00 PM
God help me but would Andy Halliday be such a bad shout?
Covers midfield and defensive positions, like McCrorie.
Are we suggesting offering a Hibs shirt to the boy who couldn’t bear to play against Sevco?
IvanSproule
24-08-2020, 08:20 PM
Are we suggesting offering a Hibs shirt to the boy who couldn’t bear to play against Sevco?
At the same time as thinking that he would be a tidy signing, I did wonder where his head would be if we went to Ibrox in March/April needing a win and the old firm were tight at the top of the league.
Still think he ticks alot of boxes though and seems to be highly thought of by fellow players.
Bronson
24-08-2020, 08:29 PM
God help me but would Andy Halliday be such a bad shout?
Covers midfield and defensive positions, like McCrorie.
No thanks he’s garbage. We can and should do much better.
04Sauzee
24-08-2020, 08:30 PM
Ajer is trending on twitter.
Seems lots of rumours about Liverpool looking at him 🙄
The 90+2
24-08-2020, 08:38 PM
Ajer is trending on twitter.
Seems lots of rumours about Liverpool looking at him 🙄
Hickey is on his way to Celtic so perhaps they need to fund that and the Motherwell player.
04Sauzee
24-08-2020, 08:41 PM
Hickey is on his way to Celtic so perhaps they need to fund that and the Motherwell player.
Celtic fans think Lawell is pulling a fast one, Ajeti, Turnbull and Duffy all paid for with the money from Ajer
wallpaperman
24-08-2020, 08:47 PM
Hickey is on his way to Celtic so perhaps they need to fund that and the Motherwell player.
I saw that, but not clear if they are buying him now, or if they will wait until January and get him on a pre-contract (which would net Hearts a relatively small amount).
The news has only come out a little while ago and the rage-o-meter on a kickback is already up to 11 due to him knocking back the Bundesliga and Serie A, to chose Celtic. :greengrin
Michael
24-08-2020, 08:47 PM
At the same time as thinking that he would be a tidy signing, I did wonder where his head would be if we went to Ibrox in March/April needing a win and the old firm were tight at the top of the league.
Still think he ticks alot of boxes though and seems to be highly thought of by fellow players.
I don't think it would have an effect on any professional footballer to be honest.
04Sauzee
24-08-2020, 08:51 PM
What all this Hickey to Celtic nonsense 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dazjambo has already told everyone he's off to Man City, done deal 👍
JimBHibees
24-08-2020, 08:52 PM
What all this Hickey to Celtic nonsense 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dazjambo has already told everyone he's off to Man City, done deal 👍
Daz must be right given the special relationship both teams have.
HoboHarry
24-08-2020, 08:58 PM
I saw that, but not clear if they are buying him now, or if they will wait until January and get him on a pre-contract (which would net Hearts a relatively small amount).
The news has only come out a little while ago and the rage-o-meter on a kickback is already up to 11 due to him knocking back the Bundesliga and Serie A, to chose Celtic. :greengrin
Bayern will be heart broken. They were sure of a full back dream team of Davies and Hickey on the other side. I mean that that's the equal of Alexander Arnold and Robertson right? 😂😂😂
MWHIBBIES
24-08-2020, 09:22 PM
Bayern will be heart broken. They were sure of a full back dream team of Davies and Hickey on the other side. I mean that that's the equal of Alexander Arnold and Robertson right? 😂😂😂
Na, because they're both left backs :greengrin
Smartie
24-08-2020, 09:25 PM
Celtic fans think Lawell is pulling a fast one, Ajeti, Turnbull and Duffy all paid for with the money from Ajer
Is selling one good player to bring in 3 good players at a time when finances are tight, really what could be called "pulling a fast one"?
You replace the departing player (Duffy) and strengthen two other parts of the team, one with one of the most promising talents in the country (Turnbull).
That's not bad business, surely?
bingo70
24-08-2020, 09:28 PM
Is selling one good player to bring in 3 good players at a time when finances are tight, really what could be called "pulling a fast one"?
You replace the departing player (Duffy) and strengthen two other parts of the team, one with one of the most promising talents in the country (Turnbull).
That's not bad business, surely?
Exactly.
I’ve never actually thought Ajer as was that good, dare say people that watch more of him than me are in a better position to judge him than I am but to me that looks great business for Celtic.
HoboHarry
24-08-2020, 09:37 PM
Na, because they're both left backs :greengrin
Shows how much I watch Hearts then. I thought Hickey was a right back. 😜
Exactly.
I’ve never actually thought Ajer as was that good, dare say people that watch more of him than me are in a better position to judge him than I am but to me that looks great business for Celtic.
Centre backs are a valuable commodity in the EPL right now. All the top teams have problems in this area, even Liverpool have been unsure who to partner with Van Dijk. Man C, Man U, Chelsea, Spurs all have problems & as for Arsenal!!!
HoboHarry
24-08-2020, 09:40 PM
Agree with you there, when Maguire goes for 80M you can see there's an issue......
MWHIBBIES
24-08-2020, 09:49 PM
Centre backs are a valuable commodity in the EPL right now. All the top teams have problems in this area, even Liverpool have been unsure who to partner with Van Dijk. Man C, Man U, Chelsea, Spurs all have problems & as for Arsenal!!!
Every single of those clubs has 2, probably 3 better players than Ajer.
04Sauzee
24-08-2020, 09:50 PM
Is selling one good player to bring in 3 good players at a time when finances are tight, really what could be called "pulling a fast one"?
You replace the departing player (Duffy) and strengthen two other parts of the team, one with one of the most promising talents in the country (Turnbull).
That's not bad business, surely?
Not my words
They seem to think they were spending money to find out all the money will have covered by the Ajer income
Smartie
24-08-2020, 09:51 PM
Centre backs are a valuable commodity in the EPL right now. All the top teams have problems in this area, even Liverpool have been unsure who to partner with Van Dijk. Man C, Man U, Chelsea, Spurs all have problems & as for Arsenal!!!
At that level, yes.
But there will be countless more players who could play that position adequately for Celtic - helping them win the league and playing the odd game in Europe, possibly younger players who can improve and then be flogged on.
Celtic have all but accepted their feeder club status for Southampton/ the EPL.
They get a decent offer, they shift the player on. They find a younger, rawer replacement and start the process again, all whilst maintaining a position of having the strongest squad in the country.
My fear is that they might take a liking to our young CH.
Keyser Sauzee
24-08-2020, 09:58 PM
What value is Ajer rumoured to be going for?
Smartie
24-08-2020, 10:01 PM
Every single of those clubs has 2, probably 3 better players than Ajer.
Ajer isn't perfect but he's a good player with a lot of potential.
I don't remember thinking that Van Dijk looked like one of the best defenders in the world at Celtic but he was clearly a decent player who kicked on after he moved down South.
Ajer would be a relatively inexpensive option for these clubs to get someone who might well develop into a top player.
CropleyWasGod
24-08-2020, 10:06 PM
Centre backs are a valuable commodity in the EPL right now. All the top teams have problems in this area, even Liverpool have been unsure who to partner with Van Dijk. Man C, Man U, Chelsea, Spurs all have problems & as for Arsenal!!!
Thiago Silva to Chelsea 😁
04Sauzee
24-08-2020, 10:08 PM
The twitter rumours seem to be
Hickey and Turnbull with loan deals for Duffy and Requelme all done soon?
The twitter rumours seem to be
Hickey and Turnbull with loan deals for Duffy and Requelme all done soon?
That'll be another 2 young Scottish players as bench warmers then
JimBHibees
25-08-2020, 06:01 AM
Ajer isn't perfect but he's a good player with a lot of potential.
I don't remember thinking that Van Dijk looked like one of the best defenders in the world at Celtic but he was clearly a decent player who kicked on after he moved down South.
Ajer would be a relatively inexpensive option for these clubs to get someone who might well develop into a top player.
Agree with this not outwith the realms of possibility that Klopp could improve him further. Very good athlete.
Souter96Mac
25-08-2020, 06:58 AM
Ajer isn't perfect but he's a good player with a lot of potential.
I don't remember thinking that Van Dijk looked like one of the best defenders in the world at Celtic but he was clearly a decent player who kicked on after he moved down South.
Ajer would be a relatively inexpensive option for these clubs to get someone who might well develop into a top player.
See I remember thinking Van Dijk was head and shoulders above everyone else when he was at Celtic. I remember a game where they gubbed us 3-0 I think. They get a Freekick 25 yards out, and he swans up and puts it top bag.
Ajer is good, and probably needs a move down south to kick on even further. But don't think he's good enough for a top 8/10 team currently, certainly not as a starter.
Every single of those clubs has 2, probably 3 better players than Ajer.
He's still young, has great potential for that level, tall, athletic and fairly skilful and on his day is one of the best young CH's in this league, if coached correctly he'll only get better. When Van Dijk left he only went to Southampton in the lower half of the EPL but within a couple of seasons he was a stand out down there, look what he's achieved now.
blackpoolhibs
25-08-2020, 07:21 AM
Just goes to show how much i've ignored all the other teams except Hibs, i couldn't pick Ajer out in a lineup, or even have told you he's a centre half until i read it here.
Every single of those clubs has 2, probably 3 better players than Ajer.
At the moment I agree but they said that about Van Dijk when he went to Southampton. I'm also not suggesting he'll go to a top 6 club but the market is distorted by the amount those clubs are paying for comparatively average players.
Leitherhibs
25-08-2020, 07:45 AM
What value is Ajer rumoured to be going for?
15-20mil, which is fair IMO.
Leitherhibs
25-08-2020, 07:49 AM
See I remember thinking Van Dijk was head and shoulders above everyone else when he was at Celtic. I remember a game where they gubbed us 3-0 I think. They get a Freekick 25 yards out, and he swans up and puts it top bag.
Ajer is good, and probably needs a move down south to kick on even further. But don't think he's good enough for a top 8/10 team currently, certainly not as a starter.
VVD had many lapses in concentration up here, more often than not he had the raw pace to get himself out of a tight spot. Ajer isn't as quick or as comfortable on the ball, but I think he's a better on ball defender than VVD was, and I think every other part of his game is just as strong as VVD's was whilst up here. Personally think Ajer would be a starter, or close to it, for most teams in EPL outside of Liverpool and City.
JimBHibees
25-08-2020, 08:05 AM
15-20mil, which is fair IMO.
Nowhere near fair in comparison with SJM
04Sauzee
25-08-2020, 08:10 AM
Nowhere near fair in comparison with SJM
2 years left on his contract at Celtic, and champions league football. That's what happens celtic players go for more money than Hibs players and Hibs players tend to go for more than say a St Mirren player.
Leitherhibs
25-08-2020, 08:36 AM
Nowhere near fair in comparison with SJM
Nothing is though, that transfer should never be used as a comparison, plus SJM had 1 year left on his deal.
Thiago Silva to Chelsea 😁
Great player, but he's almost as old as us!! :wink:
04Sauzee
25-08-2020, 10:46 AM
Transfer news LIVE: Liam Henderson could make permanent Empoli switch as Hibs hero set to leave Verona
https://t.co/Sg0GByCR3w https://t.co/cy6eYh9YN2
SHODAN
25-08-2020, 10:47 AM
Transfer news LIVE: Liam Henderson could make permanent Empoli switch as Hibs hero set to leave Verona
https://t.co/Sg0GByCR3w https://t.co/cy6eYh9YN2
He does seem to be enjoying himself over there.
A Hi-Bee
25-08-2020, 11:20 AM
He does seem to be enjoying himself over there.
Whats not to enjoy, anyone who has worked overseas for any lenght of time would say and do the same, Legend and best of luck to him, many could not even understand why some young football player would wish to play the game overseas.
:thumbsup:
04Sauzee
25-08-2020, 11:39 AM
Celtic going for more firepower
Report from the Scottish Sun on twitter
Celtic 'agree £7.2m fee' for Trabzonspor ace Caleb Ekuban, say reports in Turkey
https://t.co/4YiIqKiIvc https://t.co/IPe6wiI92H
GreenArmy1875
25-08-2020, 11:52 AM
Celtic looking to replace Eduoard it seems
HendoDelivered
25-08-2020, 11:53 AM
Celtic going for more firepower
Report from the Scottish Sun on twitter
Celtic 'agree £7.2m fee' for Trabzonspor ace Caleb Ekuban, say reports in Turkey
https://t.co/4YiIqKiIvc https://t.co/IPe6wiI92H
Not that good a goal return for that kind of fee.
Alex Trager
25-08-2020, 12:17 PM
Celtic looking to replace Eduoard it seems
If OE goes they will struggle to replace his quality.
Unseen work
25-08-2020, 12:22 PM
Surely someone knows some Hibs rumours
A Hi-Bee
25-08-2020, 12:25 PM
Surely someone knows some Hibs rumours
G.Shinnie!
Greenworld
25-08-2020, 12:32 PM
G.Shinnie!Would be interesting with 2 years left on his contract i cant see it.
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AlbertK86
25-08-2020, 12:33 PM
G.Shinnie!
Would be ideal but can’t see it ... gonna guess this was posted in hope [emoji16]
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Souter96Mac
25-08-2020, 12:35 PM
Would be interesting with 2 years left on his contract i cant see it.
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He was also start a lot of games towards the end of the championship season last year. No chance
nonshinyfinish
25-08-2020, 12:35 PM
G.Shinnie!
Would certainly be a Ross-type signing – a versatile player who can cover both central midfield and referee.
JimBHibees
25-08-2020, 12:37 PM
Would certainly be a Ross-type signing – a versatile player who can cover both central midfield and referee.
:greengrin There is no way on this earth he would get the leniency at Hibs he got at Aberdeen.
04Sauzee
25-08-2020, 12:42 PM
G.Shinnie!
No believable ones then 😅
jacomo
25-08-2020, 12:49 PM
Celtic going for more firepower
Report from the Scottish Sun on twitter
Celtic 'agree £7.2m fee' for Trabzonspor ace Caleb Ekuban, say reports in Turkey
https://t.co/4YiIqKiIvc https://t.co/IPe6wiI92H
Hello Griffiths my old friend
You’ve got to play for Hibs again
neil7908
25-08-2020, 12:55 PM
Hello Griffiths my old friend
You’ve got to play for Hibs again
He may not go to us but surely his time at Celtic will be up if they sign this guy.
Greenworld
25-08-2020, 12:58 PM
Hello Griffiths my old friend
You’ve got to play for Hibs againWould love it i just don't see how it could happen financially. You never know, the only player we have who might interest lennon is boyle then we have wages
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cabbageandribs1875
25-08-2020, 01:00 PM
Celtic going for more firepower
Report from the Scottish Sun on twitter
Celtic 'agree £7.2m fee' for Trabzonspor ace Caleb Ekuban, say reports in Turkey
https://t.co/4YiIqKiIvc https://t.co/IPe6wiI92H
that's a huge amount for a scottish club, wonder if they are expecting a big fee for a present player
Heisenberg
25-08-2020, 01:01 PM
G.Shinnie!
No chance on that one surely. He played semi regularly for Derby when he came back from injury.
S4uzee
25-08-2020, 01:58 PM
No chance on that one surely. He played semi regularly for Derby when he came back from injury.
Plus if we were interested .... Aberdeen would surely swoop in ...
Since452
25-08-2020, 02:19 PM
that's a huge amount for a scottish club, wonder if they are expecting a big fee for a present player
To be fair they signed Édouard for 9/10 million
Hearts fail in bid to sign NZ international Tommy Smith. Source: EEN.
The Rangers apparently freeing Jordan Jones: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/incoming/jordan-jones-told-he-can-leave-rangers-as-northern-ireland-winger-seeks-games-ahead-of-euro-play-offs-39476331.html
The Harp Awakes
25-08-2020, 02:28 PM
Plus if we were interested .... Aberdeen would surely swoop in ...
Correct, even though they've got hunders of midfielders already :rolleyes:
Slim chance aside, he'd be exactly the type of player we need.
04Sauzee
25-08-2020, 02:29 PM
Hearts fail in bid to sign NZ international Tommy Smith. Source: EEN.
The Rangers apparently freeing Jordan Jones: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/incoming/jordan-jones-told-he-can-leave-rangers-as-northern-ireland-winger-seeks-games-ahead-of-euro-play-offs-39476331.html
I'm reading that as he's free to leave the club not leaving the club for free if that makes any sense 😁
The 90+2
25-08-2020, 02:32 PM
I'm reading that as he's free to leave the club not leaving the club for free if that makes any sense 😁
Aye he will be leaving if a team cover a lot of the wage he’s own.
I'm reading that as he's free to leave the club not leaving the club for free if that makes any sense 😁
It's certainly ambiguous. It sounds to me as if it's referring to a free transfer but, then again, the quotation isn't actually from The Rangers themselves so maybe that's wishful thinking.
KingPat4
25-08-2020, 02:47 PM
Plus if we were interested .... Aberdeen would surely swoop in ...
The Sheep must save a fortune on not having a scouting system now....,
Billy Whizz
25-08-2020, 02:54 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53895963
He’s out of contact at the end of the season, so shouldn’t go for big big money
You’d think the sheep would be interested, as a replacement for Cosgrove
04Sauzee
25-08-2020, 02:58 PM
St Mirren about to announce a signing
Monts
25-08-2020, 02:59 PM
St Mirren about to announce a signing
Hope its Obika :greengrin
04Sauzee
25-08-2020, 03:02 PM
Hope its Obika :greengrin
Dylan Connolly a 25 year old Irish Winger
Unseen work
25-08-2020, 03:08 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53895963
He’s out of contact at the end of the season, so shouldn’t go for big big money
You’d think the sheep would be interested, as a replacement for Cosgrove
We’ve been linked with him quite a bit and he can also play off the left which he often does for county. Wonder how much it would cost to get him, like you say only a year left on his contract.
You’d think they’d give us a fair deal like we did with them for one of the best young strikers in Europe :greengrin
04Sauzee
25-08-2020, 03:10 PM
We’ve been linked with him quite a bit and he can also play off the left which he often does for county. Wonder how much it would cost to get him, like you say only a year left on his contract.
You’d think they’d give us a fair deal like we did with them for one of the best young strikers in Europe :greengrin
You mean lowball them and complain if someone does similar with Boyle 😁😁
Billy Whizz
25-08-2020, 03:12 PM
You mean lowball them and complain if someone does similar with Boyle 😁😁
Boyle is an international player, Stewart is unproven at that level yet😄
You’d have thought Hibs would be interested in him, as we seemingly were in January
The Count
25-08-2020, 03:22 PM
Shinnie and Stewart yes please.Jones no thanks and Halliday your having a laugh.
04Sauzee
25-08-2020, 03:23 PM
Boyle is an international player, Stewart is unproven at that level yet😄
You’d have thought Hibs would be interested in him, as we seemingly were in January
24 goals in 62 games is decent for somebody of his age who doesn't always play through the middle. He is somebody I rate, surprised Aberdeen aren't looking at him. He'd do well at Hibs
MWHIBBIES
25-08-2020, 03:38 PM
Boyle is an international player, Stewart is unproven at that level yet😄
You’d have thought Hibs would be interested in him, as we seemingly were in January
International doesn't mean anything really.
The Count
25-08-2020, 03:51 PM
International doesn't mean anything really.
Suppose so do we not have a guy who has been capped for the Philippines???
24 goals in 62 games is decent for somebody of his age who doesn't always play through the middle. He is somebody I rate, surprised Aberdeen aren't looking at him. He'd do well at Hibs
I just don't see it with him. He's good in the air & works extremely hard but to me he seems too gangly & awkward to really progress now. As for a fee, if RC get an offer of about £200k they'll find that hard to resist. PS, I know they all count but how many of his goals were penalties?
18Craig75
25-08-2020, 03:59 PM
I can’t take to that Kettlewell. Even before his outburst against Hibs. Seems to have a big mouth and a high opinion of himself.
Since452
25-08-2020, 04:03 PM
I can’t take to that Kettlewell. Even before his outburst against Hibs. Seems to have a big mouth and a high opinion of himself.
Same. Something about him puts me off.
truehibernian
25-08-2020, 04:05 PM
I just don't see it with him. He's good in the air & works extremely hard but to me he seems too gangly & awkward to really progress now. As for a fee, if RC get an offer of about £200k they'll find that hard to resist. PS, I know they all count but how many of his goals were penalties?
Really good player, reminds me of Keith Houchen - an absolute handful for defenders.
On a separate note, we should be all over Jordan Jones being released - quality player.
Franck Stanton
25-08-2020, 04:11 PM
Jordon Jones would, imo, be an excellent signing. Really good, hard working left winger/ left wing-back with a bit of pace and quality final ball. Hope we are interested.
Billy Whizz
25-08-2020, 04:12 PM
Really good player, reminds me of Keith Houchen - an absolute handful for defenders.
On a separate note, we should be all over Jordan Jones being released - quality player.
We’ve just signed Wright who plays wide left
04Sauzee
25-08-2020, 04:17 PM
We’ve just signed Wright who plays wide left
Or right, that's where he started against Killie
truehibernian
25-08-2020, 04:18 PM
We’ve just signed Wright who plays wide left
True, but I think we'll lose Boyle this window Billy - added to which, Wright can play right midfield (and wing back).
Jones is a very good footballer, good age, would add value to the squad.
It's clear that we have money to spend after the McCrorie fiasco and if he's on a free, it's a no-brainer for me.
HendoDelivered
25-08-2020, 04:18 PM
I can’t take to that Kettlewell. Even before his outburst against Hibs. Seems to have a big mouth and a high opinion of himself.
:agree:
Anyone who shaves the front of their hairline off, needs to be avoided swiftly.
Billy Whizz
25-08-2020, 04:18 PM
Or right, that's where he started against Killie
Probably depends on Boyle
Can’t see us going for Jones if Boyle is staying
BlackSheep
25-08-2020, 04:19 PM
We’ve just signed Wright who plays wide left
Good teams have good benches.
Competition for places is a good thing.
Unseen work
25-08-2020, 04:21 PM
Jordan Jones is free to leave, not leaving for free.
Even a loan deal would likely require a fee for him. If sold Rangers would get 500k-1m from a Championship team no bother for him.
If there was any chance of us getting him we should grab it. Very good player in one of our weaker positions.
Mikey
25-08-2020, 04:25 PM
Jordan Jones is free to leave, not leaving for free.
Even a loan deal would likely require a fee for him. If sold Rangers would get 500k-1m from a Championship team no bother for him.
If there was any chance of us getting him we should grab it. Very good player in one of our weaker positions.
Alloa? Arbroath? Hearts?
Heedersnvolleys
25-08-2020, 04:31 PM
:agree:
Anyone who shaves the front of their hairline off, needs to be avoided swiftly.
I thought i was weird as i noticed that as well:greengrin
The 90+2
25-08-2020, 04:32 PM
Jordan Jones is free to leave, not leaving for free.
Even a loan deal would likely require a fee for him. If sold Rangers would get 500k-1m from a Championship team no bother for him.
If there was any chance of us getting him we should grab it. Very good player in one of our weaker positions.
He will end up at Stoke.
24 goals in 62 games is decent for somebody of his age who doesn't always play through the middle. He is somebody I rate, surprised Aberdeen aren't looking at him. He'd do well at Hibs
To put that into perspective he scored 7 league goals last season & didn't score after his 2 against us in December last year. He's scored 2 this season, both pens.
04Sauzee
25-08-2020, 05:33 PM
To put that into perspective he scored 7 league goals last season & didn't score after his 2 against us in December last year. He's scored 2 this season, both pens.
Had a fair amount of time out injured end of Jan to March
The_Sauz
25-08-2020, 06:03 PM
True, but I think we'll lose Boyle this window Billy - added to which, Wright can play right midfield (and wing back).
Jones is a very good footballer, good age, would add value to the squad.
It's clear that we have money to spend after the McCrorie fiasco and if he's on a free, it's a no-brainer for me.
That would be strange as his wife has just signed a new contract with the Hibs ladies! Unless he is planing a move along the M8?
GonzoReturns
25-08-2020, 06:16 PM
That would be strange as his wife has just signed a new contract with the Hibs ladies! Unless he is planing a move along the M8?
What a placement for Turnbull 😱😱😱
Nicho87
25-08-2020, 06:22 PM
Cue hibs interest to spark Aberdeen’s interest
Scooter
25-08-2020, 07:19 PM
We’ve just signed Wright who plays wide left
I'm pretty sure weight is actually rightsided but"can play" left?
sean04
25-08-2020, 07:32 PM
Simon Murray doing weight training in a auld hibs top on Instagram
Iggy Pope
25-08-2020, 08:32 PM
I'm pretty sure weight is actually rightsided but"can play" left?
Mine certainly is.
Scooter
25-08-2020, 08:35 PM
Mine certainly is.
🤣🤣🙈
I'm pretty sure weight is actually rightsided but"can play" left?
In Wright's interview he said he can play both sides, behind the striker and as a striker if needed, exactly the same as Boyle. We need forwards to be versatile so they can play anywhere across the front line.
tonyrougier123
25-08-2020, 09:37 PM
Simon Murray doing weight training in a auld hibs top on Instagram
Murray would be a class addition,with little cost.
I’d take Murray over Stewart at Ross county any day,flatters to deceive.could be a huddy.
I think we need the energy Murray would bring.not that we are in for either,but a few on here seem to rate Stewart.
S4uzee
25-08-2020, 09:41 PM
Murray would be a class addition,with little cost.
I’d take Murray over Stewart at Ross county any day,flatters to deceive.could be a huddy.
I think we need the energy Murray would bring.not that we are in for either,but a few on here seem to rate Stewart.
Far from a class addition, we can do a lot better
tonyrougier123
25-08-2020, 09:52 PM
Far from a class addition, we can do a lot better
Who?
Don’t think we will be splashing in that area of the park.
Knows the league,knows the club knows where the net is.plus he would work hard to dislodge either Nisbet or Doidge.
Ppl on here are quite unfair on Murray’s contribution when he came to hibs.
But realistically who’s better kicking about?,free transfer and would jump at the opportunity.
Had a fair amount of time out injured end of Jan to March
I did wonder about that. Im not knocking the lad, he just doesn't stand out for me.
S4uzee
25-08-2020, 10:01 PM
Who?
Don’t think we will be splashing in that area of the park.
Knows the league,knows the club knows where the net is.plus he would work hard to dislodge either Nisbet or Doidge.
Ppl on here are quite unfair on Murray’s contribution when he came to hibs.
But realistically who’s better kicking about?,free transfer and would jump at the opportunity.
I wouldn’t really describe him as knowing where the net is. The majority of his goals were against lower league opposition in the league cup
Iggy Pope
25-08-2020, 10:05 PM
I wouldn’t really describe him as knowing where the net is. The majority of his goals were against lower league opposition in the league cup
Lovely finish in a win at Ibrox and a stunner v Hearts were not League Cup ties. Cmon son.
04Sauzee
25-08-2020, 10:07 PM
I wouldn’t really describe him as knowing where the net is. The majority of his goals were against lower league opposition in the league cup
And scored against the likes of Rangers, Hearts and Killie. He's not everyone's cup of tea i get that, if he's fit, available and cheap and allows us to strengthen other areas of the park then I woukdnt be against it.
In saying all that I don't think he will end up at Hibs
tonyrougier123
25-08-2020, 10:10 PM
I wouldn’t really describe him as knowing where the net is. The majority of his goals were against lower league opposition in the league cup
Won a derby thanks to a cracking Finnish,scored at ibrox another decent strike.works his socks off mate.surely worth considering,as I say who else is kicking about on a free,especially as your front two will mostly be Doidge and Nisbit.murray would link well with Allan Boyle Horgan and Doidge,could do a job imo.i know I’m no goons convince you though😉👍.but it’s all about opinions.
04Sauzee
25-08-2020, 10:15 PM
Daily Mail cheif sports writer tweets
Hearts left-back Aaron Hickey wants to make £1.3m move to Serie A Bologna despite interest from Bayern Munich and others.
smithy_hibees
25-08-2020, 10:29 PM
Daily Mail cheif sports writer tweets
Hearts left-back Aaron Hickey wants to make £1.3m move to Serie A Bologna despite interest from Bayern Munich and others.
1.3m ?? How many years he got left on his contract?? Age is he?? Surely worth at least 2m plus add ons.. hope they get less tbf but seems low price for someone who Bayern are looking at (if true of course)
Michael
25-08-2020, 10:39 PM
1.3m ?? How many years he got left on his contract?? Age is he?? Surely worth at least 2m plus add ons.. hope they get less tbf but seems low price for someone who Bayern are looking at (if true of course)
Championship players are quite cheap.
Unseen work
26-08-2020, 12:42 AM
Id like us to get Ross Stewart but think we will be priced out a move.
Would quite like to see us go for Callum Henry however very unlikely as he would cost a bit and we have Doidge/Nisbet already who will be our main 2. 100% need another in though as injury to Nisbet already shows we’re light
Left winger in the mould of Jordan Jones. I.e, direct, pacey and natural left winger.
Box to box, combative yet good on the ball centre mid. Cammy Macpherson? Someone a bit more experienced maybe? Ali McCann never impressed at all against us on Sunday and was anonymous. Luka Connell at Celtic would be a shrewd bit of business and seems miles off the first team
Really hope we get one in for Aberdeen as it’s a big game that will be a real test.
joebakerforever
26-08-2020, 01:03 AM
Seems quite a few on here looking for us to sign a backup for Doidge & Nisbet.
IMO rather than bring someone in, I'd rather see Gullan get the opportunity instead as he shows signs of developing further.
There is a tendency on here to overlook the potential of the younger development players, and the blossoming of Doig this Season confirms we have guys waiting in the wings who could be better bets than some suggested transfer targets.
cabbageandribs1875
26-08-2020, 01:52 AM
Leeds set to splash £27m on valencia striker Rodrigo moreno after he's had a medical...lot of cash for a 29 year old.
Since452
26-08-2020, 05:22 AM
Daily Mail cheif sports writer tweets
Hearts left-back Aaron Hickey wants to make £1.3m move to Serie A Bologna despite interest from Bayern Munich and others.
And they have to give Celtic 30% of that. To be fair they'll be looking at a future sell on to make their money
Wouldn’t mind seeing Simon Murray back if the opportunity is there.
More than good enough for us as a back-up and option from the bench. Isn’t going to be dislodging Doidge or Nisbet in our strongest 11 but he’s hard-working and dependable and has a decent turn of pace that could help us close out games and fill in for injuries and suspensions when needed.
Brightside
26-08-2020, 06:47 AM
Any striker we sign will be forth choice. I can’t see it tbh. Boyle can fill in there as we have enough wide players too. So unless we get a long term injury I’d be surprised at another striker. It’s clear that Jack wants another midfielder and I wouldn’t be surprised if he brought in another CB for cover as we did have 4 until recently.
Leeds set to splash £27m on valencia striker Rodrigo moreno after he's had a medical...lot of cash for a 29 year old.
Not really, if signing him means EPL survival then the rewards pays for him.
Lovely finish in a win at Ibrox and a stunner v Hearts were not League Cup ties. Cmon son.
I don't know why you're arguing with S4uzee (https://www.hibs.net/member.php?22937-S4uzee) on this point. It's simply a fact that the majority of Simon Murray's goals for Hibs were in the League Cup - 8 out of 14.
Murray started off well, showed a lot of promise, then got worse and worse, to the point that he was on a two-month goalless streak when he was shipped out on loan to Dundee halfway through the season. His next and final appearance for Hibs was as a sub against Runavik, a game in which Kamberi scored a hat-trick without looking remotely fit, and even Oli Shaw scored. Murray got 40 minutes against 10 part-timers, ran about like a headless chicken, and looked like the worst player on the pitch. I remember thinking that we'd be in big trouble if we had to rely on him as a regular first-team squad member and was surprised and delighted that we managed to get a transfer fee for him.
It always surprises me when people clamour for the return of players, like Dylan, who might have been great for us for a few years but have done little or nothing since leaving, so I'm utterly bewildered that anyone would be agitating for the return of someone who spent very little time with us and wasn't great to begin with.
Robbo6-2
26-08-2020, 07:06 AM
We are miles short in centre mid.
You cant lose Whitty Steph, Slivka and Docherty and replace with Gogic. We are at least 2 players short in there imo.
If we bring in two quality centre mids we will be in a good place. Worst case Gogic can play centre half if injuries/suspensions.
The 90+2
26-08-2020, 07:09 AM
And they have to give Celtic 30% of that. To be fair they'll be looking at a future sell on to make their money
I’ve read this a lot, why would any club agree to a future sell on and not just tell them to take the offer or ram it? Hearts are hardly in a position to reject it?
Murray was a cheap project that didn't quite work out, it happens sometimes, cheap bargains don't all turn out like Sproule. Jamie Insall was another and recently Tommy Block, cheap punts are just that, win some lose some.
Time to look forward instead of continuing to look back.
Souter96Mac
26-08-2020, 07:18 AM
Murray was a cheap project that didn't quite work out, it happens sometimes, cheap bargains don't all turn out like Sproule. Jamie Insall was another and recently Tommy Block, cheap punts are just that, win some lose some.
Time to look forward instead of continuing to look back.
It wasnt a complete loss though, did we not sell him for 6 figures after getting him in for free?
Juniper Greens
26-08-2020, 07:21 AM
We are light on strikers and Simon Murray would fit the mould of a backup. I'd love to have him back
FWIW I don't think he will end up at Hibs, but I expect we will sign someone similar on a free and the place will go into meltdown
CockneyRebel
26-08-2020, 07:26 AM
[QUOTE=S4uzee;6280930]I wouldn’t really describe him as knowing where the net is. The majority of his goals were against lower league opposition in the league cup[/QUOTE
The net is still in the same place though. :wink:
It wasnt a complete loss though, did we not sell him for 6 figures after getting him in for free?
Undisclosed could be anything, Murray was a nice lad but ultimately not good enough if we want to move forward, there's maybe a reason no one else has signed him.
It wasnt a complete loss though, did we not sell him for 6 figures after getting him in for free?
An undisclosed fee that was estimated at the time to be low six figures.
Undisclosed could be anything, Murray was a nice lad but ultimately not good enough if we want to move forward, there's maybe a reason no one else has signed him.
A cruciate ligament injury sustained last year won't be helping. There was talk a few months ago that a few Scottish and English clubs were interested, including Dundee.
Daily Mail cheif sports writer tweets
Hearts left-back Aaron Hickey wants to make £1.3m move to Serie A Bologna despite interest from Bayern Munich and others.
It's less than three weeks since the rumour was £1.6m (I.8m Euros) to Bayern. If his value keeps dropping at this rate they'll have to pay someone to take him away by the end of the season.
Peevemor
26-08-2020, 07:38 AM
Murray was a cheap project that didn't quite work out, it happens sometimes, cheap bargains don't all turn out like Sproule. Jamie Insall was another and recently Tommy Block, cheap punts are just that, win some lose some.
Time to look forward instead of continuing to look back.
We signed Murray from Dundee Utd, he had a run of first team games and was an instant success scoring some important goals.
No comparison with Block & Insall IMO.
BlackSheep
26-08-2020, 07:49 AM
I don't think Simon Murray was given a fair chance at Hibs... he came at a time when we also brought back Stokes and that whole debacle seems to overshadow Murray's time at hibs, the strike partnership just didn't work with Stokes and so both were ousted by Lennon. Its all about face fitting, and Lennon obviously decided he wasn't a good fit at the time... Ross may feel differently?
I think he has the energy and poaching skills that we like in a back up... and definitely could be a worthy squad player.
I have said this a few times recently and i will continue to bang this drum, but good teams have good benches, Simon would be a great back up and how knows, if he takes his chances and either Nisbet or Doidge go through a bad spell then he could start and hopefully provide adequate competition. Competition for places improves players. Its a good thing to have in the squad.
We could do worse. We could do better too but Murray has to be a cheap option.
SMAXXA
26-08-2020, 07:49 AM
We signed Murray from Dundee Utd, he had a run of first team games and was an instant success scoring some important goals.
No comparison with Block & Insall IMO.
Correct, there’s no comparison at all on this scenario. FWIW I’d take Murray yes he’s got his failings but as 3/4 striker he’d be fine
We signed Murray from Dundee Utd, he had a run of first team games and was an instant success scoring some important goals.
No comparison with Block & Insall IMO.
The comparison is a cheap punt, some work some don't, had anyone heard of Sproule before we signed him? There is a reason why he was allowed to leave to go to S Africa.
bigwheel
26-08-2020, 07:52 AM
Correct, there’s no comparison at all on this scenario. FWIW I’d take Murray yes he’s got his failings but as 3/4 striker he’d be fine
Murray always strikes me as a confidence player, needs to be a first pick and playing regularly to get him scoring ..that wouldn’t happen here.
Andy74
26-08-2020, 07:53 AM
The comparison is a cheap punt, some work some don't, had anyone heard of Sproule before we signed him? There is a reason why he was allowed to leave to go to S Africa.
That was all about creating the room to get a new front 3 in. In the short term it worked out. I don’t think it was an indication he’d failed in any way. He was doing quite well. He was sacrificed to make the squad changes we thought we needed at that time.
I’d definitely take him in the squad.
BlackSheep
26-08-2020, 08:03 AM
Is there anything in these Simon Murray chats that seem to keep cropping up?
Is it just little things like the Hibs highlights reel featuring him and him training in a hibs top?
Smartie
26-08-2020, 08:22 AM
Murray always strikes me as a confidence player, needs to be a first pick and playing regularly to get him scoring ..that wouldn’t happen here.
His head went down and he didn’t recover / wasn’t allowed to recover.
My concerns aren’t so much about ability (he had enough excellent attributes to have a significant impact on games) - but mental. Is he tough enough to survive inevitable lean spells? That, and the recent injury. If you take a player who was mainly about raw pace and energy and take that pace away, what’s left? Plus, explosive players often go on to have repeat, bad injuries. Mixu could probably still do a job now, as he never had pace to lose. Murray, Michael Owen, most wingers - different story.
As has been said before, Lennon had a habit of falling out with strikers, so Hibs might not have been the best place for a striker to go through a lean spell.
I’d take the same player we had before back in a heartbeat though. A bit of tlc and there was a cracking player in there.
blackpoolhibs
26-08-2020, 08:29 AM
That was all about creating the room to get a new front 3 in. In the short term it worked out. I don’t think it was an indication he’d failed in any way. He was doing quite well. He was sacrificed to make the squad changes we thought we needed at that time.
I’d definitely take him in the squad.
:agree: The problem i see with him now, is he's had a very bad injury since leaving. If he's recovered well enough to reach the fitness he had before he left, then i'd agree and like you think he'd be a decent addition to the squad.
I do wonder if he'd stifle the progress of Gullan, although i do realise he needs to either sink or swim based on his own form, but would he get as many opportunities?
:confused:
I'd be asking serious questions about the standard of our Development squad if we had to bring in a 28-year old to be our 5th choice striker.
Billy Whizz
26-08-2020, 08:39 AM
Is there anything in these Simon Murray chats that seem to keep cropping up?
Is it just little things like the Hibs highlights reel featuring him and him training in a hibs top?
Just think his agent Andy74, is pushing a deal😜
Robbo6-2
26-08-2020, 08:41 AM
Maybe if we keep talking about Murray, Aberdeen will sign him...
BlackSheep
26-08-2020, 08:58 AM
I'd be asking serious questions about the standard of our Development squad if we had to bring in a 28-year old to be our 5th choice striker.
Development squad... what development squad?
With all thats happened this year, the dev team has pretty much been disbanded and its mostly proper youth teams on the go outside the first team now.
Development squad... what development squad?
With all thats happened this year, the dev team has pretty much been disbanded and its mostly proper youth teams on the go outside the first team now.
There's still a skeleton squad listed here: http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/team/youth. I guess a good few of the players listed will be offered out on loan.
we are hibs
26-08-2020, 09:24 AM
Running about lots doesnt make you good enough for Hibs. We can do far far better than Murray.
Since90+2
26-08-2020, 09:27 AM
Running about lots doesnt make you good enough for Hibs. We can do far far better than Murray.
Not as a backup striker we can't. He's a decent player.
Not as a backup striker we can't. He's a decent player.
Why would we want to sign a 5th choice striker? Surely if we were bringing in someone in that department we'd want someone who would at least be ahead of Gullan in the pecking order. Remember that Murray had already fallen behind Oli Shaw by the time he left and has had a serious injury since then.
Northernhibee
26-08-2020, 09:37 AM
Not as a backup striker we can't. He's a decent player.
Without his stamina he'd be playing for someone like Forfar or Stenhousemuir, his finishing and positioning is absolutely terrible. I'd be worried that his serious injury will have affected his work rate.
Still, really like the boy after his derby goal and the sheer effort he put in for the club and can't fault him for what he put in for us. One of the few players to realise that he's living the dream as a pro footballer and left everything on the pitch.
Since90+2
26-08-2020, 09:42 AM
Without his stamina he'd be playing for someone like Forfar or Stenhousemuir, his finishing and positioning is absolutely terrible. I'd be worried that his serious injury will have affected his work rate.
Still, really like the boy after his derby goal and the sheer effort he put in for the club and can't fault him for what he put in for us. One of the few players to realise that he's living the dream as a pro footballer and left everything on the pitch.
I don't think his finishing is as bad as being made out. I remember him scoring a few decent goals for us.
Hibby Kay-Yay
26-08-2020, 09:44 AM
Not as a backup striker we can't. He's a decent player.
We have enough cover in our team without requiring Simon IMO. If we were genuinely interested then I would have expected to have seen him at training, much like what we done with Steven McGinn, so in that basis I can’t see anything happening.
Same goes for Dylan, yes he was superb for us 4 years ago in his final year of his contract. Since he left he’s had very little game time and JR knows what he can bring to the team and hasn’t made any moves to get him.
If we are Going to compete against Aberdeen, then I’d rather we tried to weaken their first picks rather than take their 2nd or 3rd choice midfielders.
Just wish we can get a new rumour as the amount of posts on past players is unbelievable...I’m aghast, disheveled, gobsmacked. :wink:
calumhibee1
26-08-2020, 09:51 AM
I don't think his finishing is as bad as being made out. I remember him scoring a few decent goals for us.
Likewise. His goal against Hearts for example was a great finish.
That being said, I’m not bothered for having him back. If he came back though then I’m sure he’d give it his all.
500miles
26-08-2020, 09:57 AM
I don't think we'll sign Murray, but I would point out that he'd probably link up better with Allan than Doidge does. Depends if we want to play wingers or narrow.
MWHIBBIES
26-08-2020, 10:12 AM
I don't think we'll sign Murray, but I would point out that he'd probably link up better with Allan than Doidge does. Depends if we want to play wingers or narrow.
Doidge is 100 times the player Murray is, though. Linking up with Allan is one thing but I'd sacrifice that for everything else Doidge does.
I'd take Murray back, would be a very good 4th choice forward. Guarenteed to rip it up in league and scottish cup ties vs lower league sides as well which is absolutely fine for a 4th choice.
500miles
26-08-2020, 10:21 AM
Doidge is 100 times the player Murray is, though. Linking up with Allan is one thing but I'd sacrifice that for everything else Doidge does.
I'd take Murray back, would be a very good 4th choice forward. Guarenteed to rip it up in league and scottish cup ties vs lower league sides as well which is absolutely fine for a 4th choice.
I'd start Doidge, absolutely. However, if we're struggling to get the ball to Doidge, a player like Murray let's us change shape.
Northernhibee
26-08-2020, 10:22 AM
I don't think his finishing is as bad as being made out. I remember him scoring a few decent goals for us.
The finish against Hearts in his own words was him getting his head down and just blasting it at goal. Could just as easily have went ten feet over or into the keepers arms. It didn't, but I also do remember him sclaffing a lot of shots wide or at the keeper in his time too and also being frequently caught offside.
He's really not the player we need right now.
JimBHibees
26-08-2020, 10:25 AM
The finish against Hearts in his own words was him getting his head down and just blasting it at goal. Could just as easily have went ten feet over or into the keepers arms. It didn't, but I also do remember him sclaffing a lot of shots wide or at the keeper in his time too and also being frequently caught offside.
He's really not the player we need right now.
He can finish all right sometimes in a crowded box blasting it is the best finish. The finish at Ibrox was quality.
BlackSheep
26-08-2020, 10:32 AM
I don't think his finishing is as bad as being made out. I remember him scoring a few decent goals for us.
Scored the perfect hat trick for us... think that says it all. Murray would be a good back up
Doidge is 100 times the player Murray is, though. Linking up with Allan is one thing but I'd sacrifice that for everything else Doidge does.
I'd take Murray back, would be a very good 4th choice forward. Guarenteed to rip it up in league and scottish cup ties vs lower league sides as well which is absolutely fine for a 4th choice.
He'd be behind Doidge, Nisbet, Boyle and Gullan, so 5th choice at best,
PatHead
26-08-2020, 10:54 AM
Don't forget the great song.
Since90+2
26-08-2020, 11:02 AM
He'd be behind Doidge, Nisbet, Boyle and Gullan, so 5th choice at best,
He wouldn't be behind Boyle. If Boyle is fit he plays in his most effective position which is wide right.
Borderhibbie76
26-08-2020, 11:15 AM
4 pages on Simon Murray...this thread just gets better and better. No idea why some want him back, it would hinder Gullan's development, we also have Boyle, Wright and Horgan who can all fill in up front if required. Its clear as day we need 1 or 2 midfielders in so why waste the budget on a 4th or 5th choice striker??
Andy74
26-08-2020, 11:23 AM
4 pages on Simon Murray...this thread just gets better and better. No idea why some want him back, it would hinder Gullan's development, we also have Boyle, Wright and Horgan who can all fill in up front if required. Its clear as day we need 1 or 2 midfielders in so why waste the budget on a 4th or 5th choice striker??
Why would it hinder Gulllan’s development?
He’d either be better and get the opportunity or if he can’t get past a fourth choice striker then he’s frankly not going to be good enough.
HibbyAndy
26-08-2020, 11:27 AM
I'd take Murray back no problem
He wouldn't be behind Boyle. If Boyle is fit he plays in his most effective position which is wide right.
If Doidge or Nisbet is out then Boyle would almost certainly be used through the middle - as he has been already this season.
Unseen work
26-08-2020, 11:50 AM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5971973/hibs-boyle-replacement-rangers-kent/
Kevin Kyle mentioning Boyle as a replacement for Kent.
ElginHibbie
26-08-2020, 12:03 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5971973/hibs-boyle-replacement-rangers-kent/
Kevin Kyle mentioning Boyle as a replacement for Kent.
"cheap" "cut price"
They can GTF
Greenworld
26-08-2020, 12:03 PM
1.3m ?? How many years he got left on his contract?? Age is he?? Surely worth at least 2m plus add ons.. hope they get less tbf but seems low price for someone who Bayern are looking at (if true of course)About 9 months left Hearts are in no position to play hardball , i doubt they will get will 1 million and most of that won't be upfront . He has done nothing yet a promising player i agree but early doors.
I doubt there will be any sell on clause why would you offer it on a player like him
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Greenworld
26-08-2020, 12:05 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5971973/hibs-boyle-replacement-rangers-kent/
Kevin Kyle mentioning Boyle as a replacement for Kent.Still think he will end up at celtic , Forrest has been poor for ages now.
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KingPat4
26-08-2020, 12:06 PM
He'd be behind Doidge, Nisbet, Boyle and Gullan, so 5th choice at best,
I hope Gullan is going to get game time in the League Cup.
I hope Gullan is going to get game time in the League Cup.
I'm pretty sure a few of our youngsters will play at least against Brora, Forfar and Cove if they're not out on loan somewhere.
MWHIBBIES
26-08-2020, 12:18 PM
He'd be behind Doidge, Nisbet, Boyle and Gullan, so 5th choice at best,
I'd be playing Murray up front before moving Boyle up there.
I'd be playing Murray up front before moving Boyle up there.
The manager put Boyle up front before putting Gullan up there ...
Are all the folk clamouring for Murray's return aware of some big improvement in his game from when he left us? All I'm aware of is that he doesn't seem to have had a hugely prolific spell in SA and then he got seriously injured ...
MWHIBBIES
26-08-2020, 12:25 PM
The manager put Boyle up front before putting Gullan up there ...
Are all the folk clamouring for Murray's return aware of some big improvement in his game from when he left us? All I'm aware of is that he doesn't seem to have had a hugely prolific spell in SA and then he got seriously injured ...
Boyle is still more effective out wide and even then, he's been largely rubbish this season so far.
Jim44
26-08-2020, 12:28 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5971973/hibs-boyle-replacement-rangers-kent/
Kevin Kyle mentioning Boyle as a replacement for Kent.
"cheap" "cut price"
They can GTF
With the fragile relationship between Hibs and The Rangers, I don’t think they would even consider making a cheeky cut price offer for Boyle. If they fancy him they’ll have to get in line beside or behind serious bidders.
KingPat4
26-08-2020, 12:31 PM
With the fragile relationship between Hibs and The Rangers, I don’t think they would even consider making a cheeky cut price offer for Boyle. If they fancy him they’ll have to get in line beside or behind serious bidders.
A cheeky cut price bid is exactly what I would expect them to do
Boyle is still more effective out wide and even then, he's been largely rubbish this season so far.
Granted, but that doesn't change the fact that the manager picked him in that position when he could have picked Gullan.
The 90+2
26-08-2020, 12:36 PM
A cheeky cut price bid is exactly what I would expect them to do
Sell Kent next season get Boyle on a pre-contract January.
Stuart93
26-08-2020, 12:43 PM
"cheap" "cut price"
They can GTF
We won’t sell him for a cut price especially to them.
He’s more valuable to us than some cut price sale. The club knows that
Brightside
26-08-2020, 12:46 PM
We are not short of front players. IF we play 2. Our 2 starters are Doidge, Nisbit. If one gets injured we have Gullan, or Boyle....or actually Wright who has played there in the past. We arent signing players in the off chance 4 get injured, and we arent going to play two up top all season.
Billy Whizz
26-08-2020, 12:52 PM
We are not short of front players. IF we play 2. Our 2 starters are Doidge, Nisbit. If one gets injured we have Gullan, or Boyle....or actually Wright who has played there in the past. We arent signing players in the off chance 4 get injured, and we arent going to play two up top all season.
I think we are one short, if Doidge was to get injured, we don’t have a player like him to fill in
04Sauzee
26-08-2020, 12:54 PM
I think we are one short, if Doidge was to get injured, we don’t have a player like him to fill in
We are short
Gullane got game time on Sunday but didn't start with Nisbet out being injured
Wright does say he can play up front, not sure what he's like up front he's obviously preferred as a wide player
Boyle more effective out wide
staunchhibby
26-08-2020, 12:59 PM
Why would we deal with Rangers after there stance on Mcrorie.They can bolt
Booked4Being-Ugly
26-08-2020, 01:02 PM
Haha, Andy Murray's response to a reporter talking about Messi......"what, he's going to join Hibs"!
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