Summer 2020-21 transfer thread

[SquashedFrogg]

A buy back clause would be pointless. He’s no going to be good enough.

It’ll be a good move for him though, get him playing.

Tbf you don't know that.

[Greencore]

where???


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https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5922372/hibs-priced-out-move-rangers-mccrorie/

[GordonHFC]

Its just round one. Nobody accepts a first offer.

[Dmas]

Its just round one. Nobody accepts a first offer.

I don’t think we should go back in for more than 200k to be honest, we’d be stretching at 300k and probably need to give more away of a future fee if we sold him down the line

[The 90+2]

Maybe be a replacement for Doidge? His value is probably as high now as it’s going to get? Maybe Ross sees it as a way to bring in funds to replace a couple of areas?


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Let’s hope not. Doidge is on fire.

[Lago]

I'm hearing Hibs are looking at Ross McCrorie.

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Bid rejected according to the Sun

[04Sauzee]

Let’s hope not. Doidge is on fire.

All of Scotland knows that and you would think clubs down south will be very aware of how well he's doing. If we aren't fending of bids for him by October I'd be hugely surprised and relieved.

[04Sauzee]

From twitter

Albian Ajeti has now completed his medical at Celtic.

An initial loan move with an option to buy for £5m has been agreed, but the Hoops are now trying to make it an immediate permanent transfer.

The terms and structure of a potential permanent deal are being discussed.

[The 90+2]

All of Scotland knows that and you would think clubs down south will be very aware of how well he's doing. If we aren't fending of bids for him by October I'd be hugely surprised and relieved.

He’s settled here scoring goals and wanting to get into the wales squad for next summer so I would hope and expect him to stay but you’re right of course.

[SHODAN]

From twitter

Albian Ajeti has now completed his medical at Celtic.

An initial loan move with an option to buy for £5m has been agreed, but the Hoops are now trying to make it an immediate permanent transfer.

The terms and structure of a potential permanent deal are being discussed.

Griffiths will end September like fifth in the pecking order and still somehow manage to become first choice by the close of the transfer window.

[MWHIBBIES]

Griffiths will end September like fifth in the pecking order and still somehow manage to become first choice by the close of the transfer window.

Has he ever been the choice ahead of Edouard? Griffiths is a great player in this league but Edouard is much better overall IMO.

[04Sauzee]

Has he ever been the choice ahead of Edouard? Griffiths is a great player in this league but Edouard is much better overall IMO.

When celtic were playing some of their better football at the end of last season he was playing as a 2 with Eduard, Lennon has gone back to playing 1 forward

[MWHIBBIES]

When celtic were playing some of their better football at the end of last season he was playing as a 2 with Eduard, Lennon has gone back to playing 1 forward

Didn't realise that.

[AlbertK86]

Didn't realise that.

That’s a fact as well [emoji12]


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[MagicSwirlingShip]

Maybe be a replacement for Doidge? His value is probably as high now as it’s going to get? Maybe Ross sees it as a way to bring in funds to replace a couple of areas?


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A replacement for Doidge? He’s going nowhere. Did you just fashion this rumour up yourself?

Imagine if Hibs sold our only striker proven at this level. Won’t happen

[Billy Whizz]

A replacement for Doidge? He’s going nowhere. Did you just fashion this rumour up yourself?

Imagine if Hibs sold our only striker proven at this level. Won’t happen

I don’t think he’s suggesting that, but if an English championship club came in with a massive bid, we’d have a big decision to make

Remember we’re projected to lose millions in income this financial year

[Lee Marvin]

A replacement for Doidge? He’s going nowhere. Did you just fashion this rumour up yourself?

Imagine if Hibs sold our only striker proven at this level. Won’t happen

I'd be annoyed if Hibs sold Doidge for anything under £3m, which nobody is going to offer. It would take ridiculous money for Hibs to sell him now

[04Sauzee]

A replacement for Doidge? He’s going nowhere. Did you just fashion this rumour up yourself?

Imagine if Hibs sold our only striker proven at this level. Won’t happen
It's nit a rumour he hasn't made anything up, but and of course it could happen

[MagicSwirlingShip]

I apologise, I took that the wrong way there Ozy.

Really can’t see Hibs selling CD now, he’s on a rich vein of form and the manager praised him post match last night.

Wouldn’t surprise me if we are looking to add another striker though.

[CmoantheHibs]

Perhaps not like for like regarding pace, but if Boyle goes then getting Stewart in would soften the blow as he looks capable playing on that right side of the pitch.

I thought he played on the left last time I seen him.

[Heisenberg]

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/18647002.rangers-reject-hibernian-bid-midfielder-ross-mccrorie/

First bid rejected. Don’t see us paying much more.

[Greencore]

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/18647002.rangers-reject-hibernian-bid-midfielder-ross-mccrorie/

First bid rejected. Don’t see us paying much more.

Will go down to the wire. No inside info, just a feeling.

[04Sauzee]

Joel Sked on Hearts newest recruit

🆕Watched a fair amount of Jordan Roberts today. Wasn't blown away but has been played central a fair bit. Think Hearts could be a big move for him after Ipswich didn't quite work out.

[Ozyhibby]

Joel Sked on Hearts newest recruit

[emoji682]Watched a fair amount of Jordan Roberts today. Wasn't blown away but has been played central a fair bit. Think Hearts could be a big move for him after Ipswich didn't quite work out.

A polite way of saying he’s not very good.[emoji106]


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[Billy Whizz]

Joel Sked on Hearts newest recruit

🆕Watched a fair amount of Jordan Roberts today. Wasn't blown away but has been played central a fair bit. Think Hearts could be a big move for him after Ipswich didn't quite work out.

Who’s Joel Sked, to offer an opinion

[The 90+2]

Who’s Joel Sked, to offer an opinion

Hippy on terrace podcast hearts fan

[J-C]

Murray to Dunfermline is a good move, young Fraser should've been on loan last season to get much needed game time, just look how much better Gullan is after his loan spell.

[Andy74]

Murray to Dunfermline is a good move, young Fraser should've been on loan last season to get much needed game time, just look how much better Gullan is after his loan spell.

Not sure Gullan is a big example. He’s playing about as much as Murray is.

He’s part of the squad but we’ve only got 3 strikers. It’s hard to tell if he’s much better or not after his loan just now.

[Leitherhibs]

Hippy on terrace podcast hearts fan

He’s actually alright for one of them. Bit patronising at times, but comes with the territory for that lot.

[Kato]

Joel Sked on Hearts newest recruit

🆕Watched a fair amount of Jordan Roberts today. Wasn't blown away but has been played central a fair bit. Think Hearts could be a big move for him after Ipswich didn't quite work out.

Same dude, who along with the Hearts backroom staff and Biscuits, were claiming Sean Claire was "something special" and would take the top division "by storm".

[Greenworld]

Not sure Gullan is a big example. He’s playing about as much as Murray is.

He’s part of the squad but we’ve only got 3 strikers. It’s hard to tell if he’s much better or not after his loan just now.Just thinking that as well hardly been involved. I quite like him i wonder if another short loan in The championship might be good for all. I dont see him getting much game time with hibs

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[brog]

Just thinking that as well hardly been involved. I quite like him i wonder if another short loan in The championship might be good for all. I dont see him getting much game time with hibs

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No way will that happen. We only have 3 designated strikers of which Jamie is one. I know we also have Boyle who can fill in there but its not certain he'll still be with us after the transfer deadline. Jamie will get his chance.

[King Cosell]

Striker Aberdeen got on loan from Leeds out for 4 months with ankle injury. They're having a nightmare.

[Stuart93]

I’d drop the Mcrorie interest now. No point going OTT with the budget for him, not even a bit part player for them.

[Nicho87]

Hibs will be hoping he is asking for the move to happen to help force rangers to sell

[Since452]

Hand it in Ross lad

[04Sauzee]

Evening News reporting both parties are a fair bit away in their valuation of the player

[erin go bragh]

Striker Aberdeen got on loan from Leeds out for 4 months with ankle injury. They're having a nightmare.

Dd he injure it ,dancing at a nightclub 😜

[J-C]

Not sure Gullan is a big example. He’s playing about as much as Murray is.

He’s part of the squad but we’ve only got 3 strikers. It’s hard to tell if he’s much better or not after his loan just now.

He's looking capable enough but was never going to be a starter anyway, he'll act as back up and get minutes during Betfred games and when we are well ahead in league games.

[3pm]

Striker Aberdeen got on loan from Leeds out for 4 months with ankle injury. They're having a nightmare.

Stand free. On yer good leg.

[04Sauzee]

From twitter

Hull City have been given permission to speak to Greg Docherty about a permanent move from Rangers.

Hibs are in for Ross McCrorie, would also be a permanent deal.

[K-Zazu]

McCrorie would be a fantastic signing

[H18 SFR]

McCrorie was very successfully converted to a right back by Kenny Jackets at Portsmouth. I wonder where on the park Jack Ross fancies him.

[bingo70]

McCrorie would be a fantastic signing

You might be right and you’re not alone in saying that but I don’t see how you and other people can know that?

Never played too much at Rangers and doesn’t sound like he was particularly brilliant at Portsmouth?

I can’t say I’m overly bothered about him signing tbh, if anything I think he sounds a bit ***** but I’m happy to trust Jack Ross of he thinks he’s good enough.

[Jim44]

Evening News reporting both parties are a fair bit away in their valuation of the player

What does that actually mean?

Our valuation of him is too low and their’s is too high?
Our valuation of him is reasonable but their’s is too high?
Our valuation of him is too low and their’s is reasonable?

[The 90+2]

You might be right and you’re not alone in saying that but I don’t see how you and other people can know that?

Never played too much at Rangers and doesn’t sound like he was particularly brilliant at Portsmouth?

I can’t say I’m overly bothered about him signing tbh, if anything I think he sounds a bit ***** but I’m happy to trust Jack Ross of he thinks he’s good enough.

This. For the money it would be a huge gamble based on not much at all. He seems like he’s got a good attitude though and wants to come by all accounts.

[04Sauzee]

What does that actually mean?

Our valuation of him is too low and their’s is too high?
Our valuation of him is reasonable but their’s is too high?
Our valuation of him is too low and their’s is reasonable?

That we offers much less than they want

[Speedway]

Hand it in Ross lad

You want our manager to resign?

[04Sauzee]

You want our manager to resign?

McCrorie to hand in a transfer request

[Springbank]

Rumour Aberdeen back in for Liam Boyce
They need a striker, he needs the move (like Conor Washington) to boost international chances, which are currently nil in the Scottish lower leagues (27 game season, not on telly, a wasted year)

[04Sauzee]

Rumour Aberdeen back in for Liam Boyce
They need a striker, he needs the move (like Conor Washington) to boost international chances

Would be bizarre after their chairman came out and said they wouldn't pay a fee for a player.

Mind he also said it was a 1 in 1 out which he went against

[Nicho87]

Mcrorie and Gogic in the middle for trick away games would be fantastic in front of the defence. If it came off it really wouldn’t surprise me to see us off load Mallan. Don’t see where he is fitting in.

[Kaff]

Would be bizarre after their chairman came out and said they wouldn't pay a fee for a player.

Mind he also said it was a 1 in 1 out which he went against

Their one in one out is working well!
I genuinely wonder what the deal would be with this situation with Edmondson (sp). When a loan player gets injured for a lengthy spell like this, particularly in training, what happens with loan fees etc?

[we are hibs]

St.Gallen also after McRorie apparently

[SHODAN]

St.Gallen also after McRorie apparently

Must have a scout who knows the Scottish market.

[Stuart93]

Rumour Aberdeen back in for Liam Boyce
They need a striker, he needs the move (like Conor Washington) to boost international chances, which are currently nil in the Scottish lower leagues (27 game season, not on telly, a wasted year)

I’d imagine hearts fans being a bit pissed off if they sold him to Aberdeen.

[04Sauzee]

SG also confirms Rangers in talks with Hibs over a permanent move for Ross McCrorie, while Greg Docherty could be headed to Hull

"Ross & Greg will not be going on loan. They've been on two loans. They've done that road.*If we get bids that are big enough, we'll consider them"

[Stuart93]

Not sure what it is but something’s telling me we aren’t done trying for Mcrorie. Both us and rangers seem keen to get something worked out and the player, by all accounts, seems happy to join us

[Spike Mandela]

St.Gallen also after McRorie apparently

The Swiss Sunderland.:rolleyes:

[Kaff]

Mcrorie and Gogic in the middle for trick away games would be fantastic in front of the defence. If it came off it really wouldn’t surprise me to see us off load Mallan. Don’t see where he is fitting in.

I agree, really like Stevie but he just doesn't seem a starter atm and Mallberg is a more adaptable sub since he can sit deeper (I don't think that's his best position) and step in up the park very ably.
Mallan is a real conundrum as he is a good top league olayer but unless Scott Allan got a mid to long term injury I don't see him getting enough use, Scott will probably be rotated a lot and his replacement could quite likely be someone more consistent like Mallberg.
If you gave me a choice between Mallan or McCrorie I'd always go for Stevie but it's all about how JR will shape the team up and for me it's McCrorie all the way I'd say, tbh I think he would probably prefer him to Docherty with the versatility he brings.
If Mallan wants a career at Hibs he's going to have to be very consistent and bring his A game every time, a very good player if he does that.
What is his injury timescale atm?

[04Sauzee]

St.Gallen also after McRorie apparently

Sounds like they were looking to loan and Rangers will only sell

[DTS]

Sounds like they were looking to loan and Rangers will only sell

We had a bid of £200k knocked back today

[SMAXXA]

The Swiss Sunderland.:rolleyes:

This made me laugh, their scout is Jacques Rouse

[Greencore]

nobody will know the answer, however its a decent conversation starter. IF Ron has allowed extra cash to be spent. How much would we be looking at? Wrong answers only.

[Clarence]

nobody will know the answer, however its a decent conversation starter. IF Ron has allowed extra cash to be spent. How much would we be looking at? Wrong answers only.

350k. 200 for McRorie and 150 for Griffiths.

[Unseen work]

I think we will get a deal done for McCrorie and if we do it will be a brilliant bit of business imo, very good player.

Big, athletic, good in the air and comfortable, albeit not amazing on the ball. I think a full season playing week in week out in centre mid would see him come in leaps and bounds too.

Him, Gogic, Newell, Allan, Mallan etc all have it in them to dominate the majority of teams in SPFL.

Regarding Mallan, with Allans form this season it wouldn’t surprise me if he came back and was playing the number 10 role - his best position.

[Dmas]

I agree, really like Stevie but he just doesn't seem a starter atm and Mallberg is a more adaptable sub since he can sit deeper (I don't think that's his best position) and step in up the park very ably.
Mallan is a real conundrum as he is a good top league olayer but unless Scott Allan got a mid to long term injury I don't see him getting enough use, Scott will probably be rotated a lot and his replacement could quite likely be someone more consistent like Mallberg.
If you gave me a choice between Mallan or McCrorie I'd always go for Stevie but it's all about how JR will shape the team up and for me it's McCrorie all the way I'd say, tbh I think he would probably prefer him to Docherty with the versatility he brings.
If Mallan wants a career at Hibs he's going to have to be very consistent and bring his A game every time, a very good player if he does that.
What is his injury timescale atm?

Mallan has performed much more than Hallberg has, I’m not Mallan’s biggest fan but he’s done more to win hibs matches than Melker Hallberg.
Everyone keeps suggesting MH has been played in the wrong position or isn’t a deep lying player, he’s shown very little in his time with us IMO at least we know what Mallan does and he can be used as such, Hallberg is the jack ross era’s slivka its him we should be looking to replace.

Scott allan is an important player but he does drop out games and he does go through spells when he’s not quite at it, id rather have Mallan to come in on those occasions than a guy whose YouTube reel suggests can get forward but he hasn’t really shown it in his time with us

[Onceinawhile]

So Mcrorie can play centre back, dcm, right back and keeper?

[Kaff]

Mallan has performed much more than Hallberg has, I’m not Mallan’s biggest fan but he’s done more to win hibs matches than Melker Hallberg.
Everyone keeps suggesting MH has been played in the wrong position or isn’t a deep lying player, he’s shown very little in his time with us IMO at least we know what Mallan does and he can be used as such, Hallberg is the jack ross era’s slivka its him we should be looking to replace.

Scott allan is an important player but he does drop out games and he does go through spells when he’s not quite at it, id rather have Mallan to come in on those occasions than a guy whose YouTube reel suggests can get forward but he hasn’t really shown it in his time with us

Malberg! Must apologise:spammy::tin hat: to Melker

I do rate Hallberg as a player but think Mallan is more effective in the right position. I would agree we should play him as a 10.
That's not easy though, Doidge, Nisbet, Mallan and potentially Allan and Boyle fitting in the front 3 of a 352?
How else do we fit them in without compromising their strength. Boyle is more effective as winger but don't want him defending!

[Jones28]

So Mcrorie can play centre back, dcm, right back and keeper?

And he makes a good cup of tea.

Absolute no brainer.

[Heisenberg]

Gerrard confirmed talks are ongoing so it doesn’t seem we’ve been “priced out” as the Sun were reporting. He also said it would definitely be a permanent if he leaves and not another loan.

[BegbieHSC]

Gerrard confirmed talks are ongoing so it doesn’t seem we’ve been “priced out” as the Sun were reporting. He also said it would definitely be a permanent if he leaves and not another loan.

Aye, at the end of the day, the huns want rid. McCrorie wants to come here. We want him to come here. Got a good feeling about this one given the circumstances.

[Centre Hawf]

Malberg! Must apologise:spammy::tin hat: to Melker

I do rate Hallberg as a player but think Mallan is more effective in the right position. I would agree we should play him as a 10.
That's not easy though, Doidge, Nisbet, Mallan and potentially Allan and Boyle fitting in the front 3 of a 352?
How else do we fit them in without compromising their strength. Boyle is more effective as winger but don't want him defending!

I think in a 3-5-2 there's the space for a CAM behind 2 strikers with Doig and Boyle wide mid/wing backs. Allan and Mallan could rotate around that spot or neither of them could play in favour of a back 4. I think there's still a chance for Mallan in that type of system but he'll need to work hard at it. The good thing is we do have plenty of options for our current squad depending on the opposition.

[theonlywayisup]

Aye, at the end of the day, the huns want rid. McCrorie wants to come here. We want him to come here. Got a good feeling about this one given the circumstances.

:agree: although expect a last minute bid by ha ha Hearts to derail the move to Hibs, like they tried with Nisbet.

[Jones28]

:agree: although expect a last minute bid by ha ha Hearts to derail the move to Hibs, like they tried with Nisbet.

And Gogic...and Wright...how did that go again?

[Greenworld]

Aye, at the end of the day, the huns want rid. McCrorie wants to come here. We want him to come here. Got a good feeling about this one given the circumstances.I see hibs used the sell on clause as part of there bid , without knowing what it was perhaps a slight increase in that might be enough to persuade Rangers along with 50k more .

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[LeithMike]

I think we will get a deal done for McCrorie and if we do it will be a brilliant bit of business imo, very good player.

Big, athletic, good in the air and comfortable, albeit not amazing on the ball. I think a full season playing week in week out in centre mid would see him come in leaps and bounds too.

Him, Gogic, Newell, Allan, Mallan etc all have it in them to dominate the majority of teams in SPFL.

Regarding Mallan, with Allans form this season it wouldn’t surprise me if he came back and was playing the number 10 role - his best position.Gogic, McCrorie and Mallan sounds like a very static and unbalanced midfield which wont be able to control possession. A big step backwards in my opinion.

Not seen much of McCrorie at all and I'm in the camp that would prefer Docherty / Omeonga.

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[Since452]

:agree: although expect a last minute bid by ha ha Hearts to derail the move to Hibs, like they tried with Nisbet.

Nobody will choose Hearts over Hibs right now. All the good players will be snapped up by Premiership and English teams. Hearts league doesn't start until October so they're at the very bottom of the food chain and will have to feed off scraps. The likes of Sam Nicholson turning them down for Craggy Island reserves says it all. Taking Forest Green cast offs on trial is where they're at.

[HairyMM]

I see hibs used the sell on clause as part of there bid , without knowing what it was perhaps a slight increase in that might be enough to persuade Rangers along with 50k more .

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I hope you are right however not sure that would be enough to bridge a significant gap in respective valuations if that is genuinely the case.

[04Sauzee]

Celtic to confirm Albian Ajeti signing tomorrow as Hoops seal £5m permanent deal for West Ham striker

https://t.co/nSr4kd2t6d https://t.co/rViPZqGQ00

[King Cosell]

Hibs won't pay more than 200k-300k, they know that, so if talks are ongoing it might be more to do with sell-on fees. Wouldn't want a buy-back arrangement but it wouldn't trouble me if they asked for a whopping 50% and 50% of a future sell-on we receive.

[Springbank]

Hibs won't pay more than 200k-300k, they know that, so if talks are ongoing it might be more to do with sell-on fees. Wouldn't want a buy-back arrangement but it wouldn't trouble me if they asked for a whopping 50% and 50% of a future sell-on we receive.

Maybe a larger % of profit ie if we are paying £200k, and sell for £800,000 then we get our £200k back in full, then split a higher % of the £600k profit? Works for me

[The 90+2]

So Mcrorie can play centre back, dcm, right back and keeper?

And goalie 👍

[The 90+2]

Hibs won't pay more than 200k-300k, they know that, so if talks are ongoing it might be more to do with sell-on fees. Wouldn't want a buy-back arrangement but it wouldn't trouble me if they asked for a whopping 50% and 50% of a future sell-on we receive.

50% of any profit we make would be fine for me. We then get the sell on to the next club.

[Billy Whizz]

And goalie 👍

Ha ha, that’s his brother

[Dmas]

Hibs won't pay more than 200k-300k, they know that, so if talks are ongoing it might be more to do with sell-on fees. Wouldn't want a buy-back arrangement but it wouldn't trouble me if they asked for a whopping 50% and 50% of a future sell-on we receive.

Why wouldn’t it trouble you? we have to be spending that amount of money with an eye on making him better and selling him on for profit, say our ceiling is £4m for a top player going by past sales, you’d happily give rangers close to £2.3m for a player absolutely no where near there first team squad...even in a time where we can use more subs?

It wasn’t long ago rangers thought it was totally acceptable to be offering £100k for a first team striker of ours, or it wasn’t that long ago they where offering 50k up front plus ridiculous add ons like champs league qualification for scott allan.

[The Count]

Ha ha, that’s his brother

Old enough to remember the school playground football term "Goalie and".

[King Cosell]

Why wouldn’t it trouble you? we have to be spending that amount of money with an eye on making him better and selling him on for profit, say our ceiling is £4m for a top player going by past sales, you’d happily give rangers close to £2.3m for a player absolutely no where near there first team squad...even in a time where we can use more subs?

It wasn’t long ago rangers thought it was totally acceptable to be offering £100k for a first team striker of ours, or it wasn’t that long ago they where offering 50k up front plus ridiculous add ons like champs league qualification for scott allan.

If McCrorie made a massive contribution for a couple of seasons and we made a £1.7m profit, I'd be cock-a-hoop.

[Ozyhibby]

Why wouldn’t it trouble you? we have to be spending that amount of money with an eye on making him better and selling him on for profit, say our ceiling is £4m for a top player going by past sales, you’d happily give rangers close to £2.3m for a player absolutely no where near there first team squad...even in a time where we can use more subs?

It wasn’t long ago rangers thought it was totally acceptable to be offering £100k for a first team striker of ours, or it wasn’t that long ago they where offering 50k up front plus ridiculous add ons like champs league qualification for scott allan.

Those deals did not get done though. If we want this deal to happen then we are going to have to give a little in the negotiations.


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[Greenbeard]

Everyone saying what a difference Gogic has made so far. And we have a good squad with multiple options for different set-ups and cover for injuries, other than for Gogic as a DM. Is that McCrorie's role?
Sounds like a versatile squad player to have but if anyone is to go if he comes in I'd rather it was Halberg (Horgan off the hook - for now) than Mallan who, as others have said, can be rotated with Allan, esp when he is in an off-form spell.

[Heisenberg]

I don’t see us spending upwards of 200k on a player that won’t start every week. In the midfield alongside Gogic and Newell is my guess.

[Hibernian Verse]

Everyone saying what a difference Gogic has made so far. And we have a good squad with multiple options for different set-ups and cover for injuries, other than for Gogic as a DM. Is that McCrorie's role?
Sounds like a versatile squad player to have but if anyone is to go if he comes in I'd rather it was Halberg (Horgan off the hook - for now) than Mallan who, as others have said, can be rotated with Allan, esp when he is in an off-form spell.Hallberg has come on in every game so far, Ross clearly rates him enough to trust him to help us see out games so I can't see him leaving. More like Murray and Stirling.

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[Souter96Mac]

Everyone saying what a difference Gogic has made so far. And we have a good squad with multiple options for different set-ups and cover for injuries, other than for Gogic as a DM. Is that McCrorie's role?
Sounds like a versatile squad player to have but if anyone is to go if he comes in I'd rather it was Halberg (Horgan off the hook - for now) than Mallan who, as others have said, can be rotated with Allan, esp when he is in an off-form spell.

It looks like from a depth point of view, Allan, Mallan and Horgan can play that attacking mid position; Newell and Hallberg can play the centre mid position; Gogic (and McCrorie if signed) can play the defensive mid position.

For me I don't think we're far away. If we get McCrorie in, I'd maybe be looking at bringing in a loan or two just to provide depth, maybe another winger. If Boyle leaves, then we would need to replace/bring in suitable quality. My preference would be to try and sign Ross Stewart.

[Greencore]

I don’t see us spending upwards of 200k on a player that won’t start every week. In the midfield alongside Gogic and Newell is my guess.

Will keep Hanlon, Porto, gogic and newall on their toes.

[Jones28]

Just seen online that Bristol City captain Korey Smith has left, could be a good signing on a free transfer.

[The 90+2]

Ha ha, that’s his brother

He played in goal against us at Ibrox too I think 🧐 mc****ger lost the plot as per and kicked out at Mcnulty.

[The 90+2]

I don’t see us spending upwards of 200k on a player that won’t start every week. In the midfield alongside Gogic and Newell is my guess.

I don’t see him being desperate to join unless he’s persuaded he’s a big part of the plans as a certain starter if good enough.

[Ozyhibby]

I don’t see us spending upwards of 200k on a player that won’t start every week. In the midfield alongside Gogic and Newell is my guess.

McCrorie is good enough to start every week.


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[sean04]

Spoke to a few rangers fans last night. They rate mccrorie very highly. Better in midfield than at the back. Gives 110% every game

[Dmas]

Those deals did not get done though. If we want this deal to happen then we are going to have to give a little in the negotiations.


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Yeah if we want him we’ll need to negotiate but something like 50% sell on as the poster I replied to suggested is in my opinion way too much.

Those deals didn’t get done but I’m highlighting a double standard as the 2 players I mentioned where first team players and involved every week Mcrorie is not and is nowhere near it for rangers how can they expect premium cash?

[Callum_62]

Allan isn't a starter at the moment and won't be until finds some kind of form again

Gogic, Mcrorie and Newell middle 3

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[Bostonhibby]

The Swiss Sunderland.:rolleyes:[emoji23]

Maybe Kamberi is trying to get them to fulfil his Sevco dream by getting St. Gallen to sign an entire squad from sevco just to make him feel at home?

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[MWHIBBIES]

Allan isn't a starter at the moment and won't be until finds some kind of form again

Gogic, Mcrorie and Newell middle 3

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Allan has been out of 2 tough away games as Ross wanted to go 442. I really don't think its a form thing. He set up the winning goal vs Kilmarnock.


I wouldn't be surprised at all if he is back in for Saturday.

[500miles]

Allan has been out of 2 tough away games as Ross wanted to go 442. I really don't think its a form thing. He set up the winning goal vs Kilmarnock.


I wouldn't be surprised at all if he is back in for Saturday.

It's all about shape and the players around him. Horgan plays in 4 man midfield, Allan plays if we're go with a front 3.

[CockneyRebel]

I don’t see us spending upwards of 200k on a player that won’t start every week. In the midfield alongside Gogic and Newell is my guess.


And back up for Rockie?

[Andy74]

I don’t see him being desperate to join unless he’s persuaded he’s a big part of the plans as a certain starter if good enough.

No one will ever be told they are a certain starter.

[Callum_62]

Allan has been out of 2 tough away games as Ross wanted to go 442. I really don't think its a form thing. He set up the winning goal vs Kilmarnock.


I wouldn't be surprised at all if he is back in for Saturday.From inky what I see, and I don't know what type of pre season he had with his illness etc

He looks a yard short

I said it last year he seems to have lost a lot of his agility for some reason

Hope he regains his fitness and sharpness

The odd flash of class is OK but we need more than that for me

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[The 90+2]

No one will ever be told they are a certain starter.

They won’t be told they’re a sub though.

[MWHIBBIES]

It's all about shape and the players around him. Horgan plays in 4 man midfield, Allan plays if we're go with a front 3.

Exactly. I don't see it as Allan as not being a starter. He is a brilliant player but a very rigid player who has to play a specific role. The 442 worked very well at Livi, less so at United. I think bringing Allan on and going 352 made us a better side.

[Andy74]

They won’t be told they’re a sub though.

Yes you are further proving my point that players will be brought in to be part of the squad and earn their right to be in the team.

Your initial point was that he would need to be persuaded to be here by being told he would be a certain starter. That won't happen.

[MWHIBBIES]

From inky what I see, and I don't know what type of pre season he had with his illness etc

He looks a yard short

I said it last year he seems to have lost a lot of his agility for some reason

Hope he regains his fitness and sharpness

The odd flash of class is OK but we need more than that for me

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He maybe has been as good at running with the ball as usual (although excellent assist vs Killie doing just that) but statistically, he is better than ever. Double figures for goals and assists is something very few Hibs players achieve. It was definitely more than the odd flash of class IMO.

[Alex Trager]

Exactly. I don't see it as Allan as not being a starter. He is a brilliant player but a very rigid player who has to play a specific role. The 442 worked very well at Livi, less so at United. I think bringing Allan on and going 352 made us a better side.

Tbf I think it was the change of shape rather than Allan coming on. Never done much

[MWHIBBIES]

Tbf I think it was the change of shape rather than Allan coming on. Never done much

Perhaps yeah, but I think Allan is required to play that shape well. He nearly got in not long before Doidge after a quick 1/2 with Nisbit.

[J-C]

It's noticeable that when Ross wanted to stretch teams like Livi and Dundee U, he's gone with 442 and not 4231/451, which means Allan has been sacrificed over 2 more industrial players needed to dig deep in the middle, he changed shape in the 2nd half to 352 to allow Allan on and square up better in the middle.

Ross has taken the decision that Allan will not be a guaranteed starter and getting the result is the most important thing.

[The 90+2]

Yes you are further proving my point that players will be brought in to be part of the squad and earn their right to be in the team.

Your initial point was that he would need to be persuaded to be here by being told he would be a certain starter. That won't happen.

When we are negotiating with a player who is looking to move for first team football with other clubs wanting him we aren’t going to tell him he’s part of a squad, he will be advised he’s going to come here and play lots of football to develop himself. Obviously not a certain starter but a massive part of the first team plans, not cover as suggested.

[we are hibs]

Ross Stewart is signing for Hearts

[Stuart93]

Ross Stewart is signing for Hearts

I was a bit gutted about this until I realised it was Ross Stewart livi’s 3rd choice goalie

[04Sauzee]

EXCLUSIVE! Hearts set to seal signing of Ross Stewart as Robbie Neilson strengthens squad | @Doonhamer79 #HMFC

https://t.co/UbGvnKnJOZ https://t.co/TEab6oFQ1c


😁😁😁😁

Sorry a bit cruel but it's the 3rd choice Livi GK

[The 90+2]

EXCLUSIVE! Hearts set to seal signing of Ross Stewart as Robbie Neilson strengthens squad | @Doonhamer79 #HMFC

https://t.co/UbGvnKnJOZ https://t.co/TEab6oFQ1c


😁😁😁😁

Queens player then and not the decent one.

[Alex Trager]

Perhaps yeah, but I think Allan is required to play that shape well. He nearly got in not long before Doidge after a quick 1/2 with Nisbit.

Aye that’s true. He had a decent chance to strike it and never which was frustrating

[HendoDelivered]

Ross Stewart is signing for Hearts

Not the county one.

[SHODAN]

EXCLUSIVE! Hearts set to seal signing of Ross Stewart as Robbie Neilson strengthens squad | @Doonhamer79 #HMFC

https://t.co/UbGvnKnJOZ https://t.co/TEab6oFQ1c


😁😁😁😁

Sorry a bit cruel but it's the 3rd choice Livi GK

Hahahahaha

[Speedway]

Spoke to a few rangers fans last night. They rate mccrorie very highly. Better in midfield than at the back. Gives 110% every game

Nowhere near good enough.

We should be looking for 120% every week as a minimum.

[Since452]

Not the county one.

Was just about to say that's a great signing. Should have known 😂

[Sean1875]

EXCLUSIVE! Hearts set to seal signing of Ross Stewart as Robbie Neilson strengthens squad | @Doonhamer79 #HMFC

https://t.co/UbGvnKnJOZ https://t.co/TEab6oFQ1c


😁😁😁😁

Sorry a bit cruel but it's the 3rd choice Livi GK

Christ, had me worried there.

[Brightside]

Ross Stewart is signing for Hearts

Be better with Rod Stewart

[Andy74]

When we are negotiating with a player who is looking to move for first team football with other clubs wanting him we aren’t going to tell him he’s part of a squad, he will be advised he’s going to come here and play lots of football to develop himself. Obviously not a certain starter but a massive part of the first team plans, not cover as suggested.

Exactly but you said certain starter.

[Nicho87]

Allan isn't a starter at the moment and won't be until finds some kind of form again

Gogic, Mcrorie and Newell middle 3

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Bit harsh on Allan personally. He ripped the guy a new one for boyles second goal on opening day. He’s just not played the last two games as he himself probably knows he struggles in a centre midfield of just 2. Still think Allan is one of the most technically gifted players on the books.

[04Sauzee]

Celtic sign another striker 4 year permanent deal.

Celtic have completed the signing of striker Albian Ajeti. 4 year contract. He joins from West Ham in a £5m deal.

[Stuart93]

Bit harsh on Allan personally. He ripped the guy a new one for boyles second goal on opening day. He’s just not played the last two games as he himself probably knows he struggles in a centre midfield of just 2. Still think Allan is one of the most technically gifted players on the books.

He wasn’t playing in a centre midfield of just 2?

I think he’ll admit he’s just not started the season well.

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

Bit harsh on Allan personally. He ripped the guy a new one for boyles second goal on opening day. He’s just not played the last two games as he himself probably knows he struggles in a centre midfield of just 2. Still think Allan is one of the most technically gifted players on the books.

Your bang on, he probably is the most gifted.

Unfortunately Stevie Mallan is probably the best striker of a ball but he won’t start when injury free.

Both of these guys need a lot more to their game if they are to start. It’s no surprise we have won back to back games without these guys.


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[MWHIBBIES]

He wasn’t playing in a centre midfield of just 2?

I think he’ll admit he’s just not started the season well.

I doubt he would say that. He's started 1 match.

[Unseen work]

Gogic, McCrorie and Mallan sounds like a very static and unbalanced midfield which wont be able to control possession. A big step backwards in my opinion.

Not seen much of McCrorie at all and I'm in the camp that would prefer Docherty / Omeonga.

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Static? Gogic and McCrorie both cover a huge amount of ground and wouldn’t give the opposition a seconds rest imo.

Mallan whilst not the fastest still tries harder and outs in a better shift than Allan. He would also be the player to dictate and finally be able to use his strengths - shooting, passing and crossing.

Those 3 with Boyle and Horgan/Doig/Wright our wide and Nisbet and Doidge up top would be really good imo.

[MWHIBBIES]

Your bang on, he probably is the most gifted.

Unfortunately Stevie Mallan is probably the best striker of a ball but he won’t start when injury free.

Both of these guys need a lot more to their game if they are to start. It’s no surprise we have won back to back games without these guys.


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Allan started the first match and we won. How can you see he needs to add more to his game if he is to start. He started all last season and the first game of this one.

I think the overreaction to a guy being out for 2 away matches is way too much.

[Stuart93]

I doubt he would say that. He's started 1 match.

There’s a reason why he’s only started 1 match though

And when he came on v Dundee Utd he done nout but give the ball away

[Callum_62]

Allan started the first match and we won. How can you see he needs to add more to his game if he is to start. He started all last season and the first game of this one.

I think the overreaction to a guy being out for 2 away matches is way too much.I'm not over reacting to him being dropped for 2 games

Im just not seeing the same dynamism to his game

He's still very gifted and can be a game changer... Certainly not writing him off

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[B.H.F.C]

Your bang on, he probably is the most gifted.

Unfortunately Stevie Mallan is probably the best striker of a ball but he won’t start when injury free.

Both of these guys need a lot more to their game if they are to start. It’s no surprise we have won back to back games without these guys.


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Posts like this about Allan are so over the top.

We won the first game, with Allan in the team. We were then good without him in the second. We then improved with him on the pitch in the third (drawing when he came on).

More to his game to start? I’d bet he’ll start the majority of our games this season and won’t be surprised to see him back in the team on Saturday.

[MWHIBBIES]

There’s a reason why he’s only started 1 match though

And when he came on v Dundee Utd he done nout but give the ball away

Yes, its a tactical reason. Ross wanted to play 442, Allan cant play in a 442.

Who scored has him at a 72.7% pass success vs Dundee United when he came on. He definitely didn't do nout but give it away.

[B.H.F.C]

I'm not over reacting to him being dropped for 2 games

Im just not seeing the same dynamism to his game

He's still very gifted and can be a game changer... Certainly not writing him off

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That I do agree with. He needs to get his performance levels back up.

A major plus is that we aren’t totally reliant on him these days. Allan will be back and will go on to have a big impact this season IMO.

[Stuart93]

Yes, its a tactical reason. Ross wanted to play 442, Allan cant play in a 442.

Who scored has him at a 72.7% pass success vs Dundee United when he came on. He definitely didn't do nout but give it away.

But how many passes did he actually make?

It’s easy for stats like that to be skewed without knowing the full picture.

I’ve perhaps been a little harsh in my opinion of him on Tuesday.

[The Modfather]

Allan started the first match and we won. How can you see he needs to add more to his game if he is to start. He started all last season and the first game of this one.

I think the overreaction to a guy being out for 2 away matches is way too much.

Allan was part of a midfield last season that was imbalanced and struggled. We also struggled to win the midfield against Killie. Clearly none of that is solely Allan’s fault. However that doesn’t excuse him any responsibility in our midfield struggles either.

Like with McLaren, I think it’s possible to have good stats on paper while also having question marks about overall contribution to the team. I think he’s good enough to build a midfield around but hasn’t shown that level of consistently since he returned,

[MWHIBBIES]

Allan was part of a midfield last season that was imbalanced and struggled. We also struggled to win the midfield against Killie. Clearly none of that is solely Allan’s fault. However that doesn’t excuse him any responsibility in our midfield struggles either.

Like with McLaren, I think it’s possible to have good stats on paper while also having question marks about overall contribution to the team. I think he’s good enough to build a midfield around but hasn’t shown that level of consistently since he returned,

He hasn't shown that consistency yes, but he also bailed us out many times last season. Even when not at his best, he contributed a lot. 4 of his 5 goals got us points, including 1 winner. Every single assist he got was for our first goal of the match except against Hearts where he got both assists in a 2-0 win. If you take away that influence we could've been in some relegation trouble.

We don't rely on him as much this season and we have other options as well. 2 quality strikers is a big bonus for us, something we didn't have last season and enables us to rest Allan or play different formations.

We struggled against Killie much more because the ball would not stick up front. That is a much bigger reason for us going 2 forwards and dropping Allan than his performance IMO. Nisbit could not hold it on his own.

[CmoantheHibs]

I think people are being harsh on Scott. He didn't have the greatest game against Killie but still made a major contribution. He has since been left out twice for away games for what looks like tactical reasons. I would imagine this will be how it goes this season for him, sometimes starting and other times coming on to try to try and influence games.
To me it looks like Scott isn't at the same fitness levels as everyone else. Think he was the only member of the team who was shielding which would restrict the training he could do so it seems feasible. Don't think it will be long before he is having an even bigger influence on games.

[jacomo]

It looks like from a depth point of view, Allan, Mallan and Horgan can play that attacking mid position; Newell and Hallberg can play the centre mid position; Gogic (and McCrorie if signed) can play the defensive mid position.

For me I don't think we're far away. If we get McCrorie in, I'd maybe be looking at bringing in a loan or two just to provide depth, maybe another winger. If Boyle leaves, then we would need to replace/bring in suitable quality. My preference would be to try and sign Ross Stewart.



Unless Jack sees McCrorie as an option at centre back as well, we need a replacement for Adam Jackson surely?

[04Sauzee]

Unless Jack sees McCrorie as an option at centre back as well, we need a replacement for Adam Jackson surely?

Is than not part of the beauty regarding McCrorie thay he can play CB CDM and RB, JR likes a player who can be versatile

[J-C]

As has been said, Allan cannot play in a 442 but Ross has said they are changing formation from game to game and even from half to half, this will men less game time for the likes of Allan and Mallan who are more creative but less dynamic.
We shall see in time how Allan etc reacts to less playing time but better results for the team, we know the talent of Allan but we also know he can be a spectator for long periods of the game and add that wonder pass to win a game, all about balance.

[Bobby's Cinema]

We had a bid of £200k knocked back today
Since Ron has entered the building we seem a bit more willing to speculate to accumulate in the transfer market, Nisbet being a prime example to try and find the next Mcginn which I am enjoying seeing.

[mjhibby]

Posts like this about Allan are so over the top.

We won the first game, with Allan in the team. We were then good without him in the second. We then improved with him on the pitch in the third (drawing when he came on).

More to his game to start? I’d bet he’ll start the majority of our games this season and won’t be surprised to see him back in the team on Saturday.

I think he will start on Saturday. Well look very suspect from the quick pass and one two. I think Horgan will be on in the second half. I’m sure Ross will be looking to get ahead early and press on. Well looked dangerous up front so we will need to be on our toes.

[HendoDelivered]

Decent read on RM here: https://the4thofficial.net/2020/07/understanding-why-rangers-rate-ross-mccrorie-so-highly-and-whether-he-will-be-able-to-deliver-in-the-future/

[badabing67]

I see hibs used the sell on clause as part of there bid , without knowing what it was perhaps a slight increase in that might be enough to persuade Rangers along with 50k more .

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Or a option for first refusal on future transfer

[hfc rd]

Ross Stewart is signing for Hearts


How many yams would have fallen for that thinking it’s the County striker and then realising it's the Livingston 3rd choice GK 😂

Scraping the barrel.

[Greenworld]

I think he will start on Saturday. Well look very suspect from the quick pass and one two. I think Horgan will be on in the second half. I’m sure Ross will be looking to get ahead early and press on. Well looked dangerous up front so we will need to be on our toes.I can only assume the carona virus curtailed what allan could do self training wise and is behind on fitness. For me better to bring him on in the second half when hopefully defenders are tiring . For as brilliant as he can be he is equally frustrating at times trying the million dollar pass . You can't not like him though.

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[badabing67]

Be better with Rod Stewart

Wouldn't tell that to Begbie...

[badabing67]

Be better with Rod Stewart

Wouldn't say that to Begbie...

[007]

I think people are being harsh on Scott. He didn't have the greatest game against Killie but still made a major contribution. He has since been left out twice for away games for what looks like tactical reasons. I would imagine this will be how it goes this season for him, sometimes starting and other times coming on to try to try and influence games.
To me it looks like Scott isn't at the same fitness levels as everyone else. Think he was the only member of the team who was shielding which would restrict the training he could do so it seems feasible. Don't think it will be long before he is having an even bigger influence on games.

Good point. The shielding would have made it harder for him to get into top shape as quickly as the others. I remember last year he'd been working hard and was in good shape before rejoining us.

[GonzoReturns]

We have had 3 decent wins without arguably our most gifted player either not playing or not playing as well as he can. Not a bad place to be .

[Juniper Greens]

Any news on keepers? Could do with a safe pair of hands on the bench with dabrowski maybe going on loan to a championship club like alloa or hearts. Only been tested at L2 level, and we know rocky can get complacent when the competition isn't strong

[hibbysam]

Any news on keepers? Could do with a safe pair of hands on the bench with dabrowski maybe going on loan to a championship club like alloa or hearts. Only been tested at L2 level, and we know rocky can get complacent when the competition isn't strong

Waste money for the sake of wasting money? Dabrowski is more than capable to sit on our bench.

[Stuart93]

Any news on keepers? Could do with a safe pair of hands on the bench with dabrowski maybe going on loan to a championship club like alloa or hearts. Only been tested at L2 level, and we know rocky can get complacent when the competition isn't strong

I reckon KD is a more than capable sub goalie, I’d rather we used resources elsewhere.

Washington left hearts for Charlton. Also thought he was one of their better players.

[King Cosell]

Wouldn't be surprised if Dundee Utd (only Scottish club I can see paying a fee) make a move for Mallan. Shankland back, couple shrewd signings and they're a decent side. I like Mallan, and I'll be happy if he stays, but can't see him playing much this term, especially if we bring in another mid.

[calumhibee1]

Ronaldo has apparently been offered to Barcelona..

[calumhibee1]

Wouldn't be surprised if Dundee Utd (only Scottish club I can see paying a fee) make a move for Mallan. Shankland back, couple shrewd signings and they're a decent side. I like Mallan, and I'll be happy if he stays, but can't see him playing much this term, especially if we bring in another mid.

He’d probably be a good signing for them.

If a fee for Mallan allowed us to top up the money we already have to try and get in Docherty I’d take it in a heart beat.

[Smartie]

Ronaldo has apparently been offered to Barcelona..

He's a bit chunky and past his best but was outstanding for them the first time round.

There's only one Ronaldo.

[oneone73]

He’d probably be a good signing for them.

If a fee for Mallan allowed us to top up the money we already have to try and get in Docherty I’d take it in a heart beat.

I wouldn't. Really don't get the downer many Hibs fans have on Mallan. I think he'll play a bigger part in our season than Allan.

[Nicho87]

I wouldn't. Really don't get the downer many Hibs fans have on Mallan. I think he'll play a bigger part in our season than Allan.

No chance.

[poulton hibs]

He's a bit chunky and past his best but was outstanding for them the first time round.

There's only one Ronaldo.

He played for Madrid, not Barcelona. Would be some team with Ronaldo and Messi.

[nonshinyfinish]

He played for Madrid, not Barcelona. Would be some team with Ronaldo and Messi.

Ahem.

https://arjyomitra94.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/ronaldo_barcelona.jpg

[GreenPJ]

I wouldn't. Really don't get the downer many Hibs fans have on Mallan. I think he'll play a bigger part in our season than Allan.

:agree: I think Mallan will be important for us this season and expect once he is fit he will be a starter.

[poulton hibs]

Ahem.


https://arjyomitra94.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/ronaldo_barcelona.jpg Oops so he did. Forgot all about that.

[hibee-boys]

:agree: I think Mallan will be important for us this season and expect once he is fit he will be a starter.

Anyone know when he is expected back, seems to have been out for a long time. Would certainly add to the squad but wouldn't expect him to be a certain starter.

[jacomo]

He played for Madrid, not Barcelona. Would be some team with Ronaldo and Messi.


Whoosh

[Nicho87]

:agree: I think Mallan will be important for us this season and expect once he is fit he will be a starter.

Who would he replace?

[Billy Whizz]

Who would he replace?

Our team isn’t set in stone, injuries, suspensions, loss of form etc, will all play its part this season

[04Sauzee]

Hearts get 'undisclosed fee' as Conor Washington signs for Charlton

https://t.co/7DNs7hGzf8

[Nicho87]

Our team isn’t set in stone, injuries, suspensions, loss of form etc, will all play its part this season

I’m fully aware of how a football squad works but the poster has said once Mallan is fit he expects him to start. So my question is if Mallan was fit for Saturday who would drop out. Fair question. Sorry for offending

[J-C]

Who would he replace?

Hallberg but as above many games to be played well need a strong squad.

[Nicho87]

Hallberg but as above many games to be played well need a strong squad.

He’s not started a game this season. For me he’s falling into the Slivka category. Don’t know what he’s really good at, best position. Would rather we moved him on too and got mcrorie in someone that Ross really thinks could make a move for a starting jersey

[SHODAN]

Hearts get 'undisclosed fee' as Conor Washington signs for Charlton

https://t.co/7DNs7hGzf8

That's all three players who scored against us in March away now. Semi final victory is assured!

[Stuart93]

I’m fully aware of how a football squad works but the poster has said once Mallan is fit he expects him to start. So my question is if Mallan was fit for Saturday who would drop out. Fair question. Sorry for offending

Depends what formation we’re starting with but I wouldn’t be against playing him in his natural position in behind the strikers

[The 90+2]

Hearts get 'undisclosed fee' as Conor Washington signs for Charlton

https://t.co/7DNs7hGzf8

Good player. Glad he’s gone.

Had him in my fizzy pop fantasy football league team too. Who’s up front for Morton?

[Nicho87]

Depends what formation we’re starting with but I wouldn’t be against playing him in his natural position in behind the strikers

So Scott Allan would be second choice to Mallan?

[Stuart93]

So Scott Allan would be second choice to Mallan?

I think that’s what you were waiting on someone saying wasn’t it?

I wouldn’t say second choice but giving Mallan a chance to prove himself in his natural position wouldn’t be a bad idea

[Bostonhibby]

Hearts get 'undisclosed fee' as Conor Washington signs for Charlton

https://t.co/7DNs7hGzf8£20?

Fiver a goal seems about right.

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[Nicho87]

I think that’s what you were waiting on someone saying wasn’t it?

I wouldn’t say second choice but giving Mallan a chance to prove himself in his natural position wouldn’t be a bad idea

Not at all. I don’t understand how Allan had one of the best assists and chances created record not so long ago, and one assist already in one match started people would give Mallan a chance there. For a football reason that doesn’t make any sense to me that Ross is ever likely to try that purely on the basis he deserves a chance. He would rightfully get a chance if he was doing it in training and cameos as subs etc. But that’s just me I personally think Allan is quite a bit ahead of where Mallan is at the moment.

[Haymaker]

Ahem.

https://arjyomitra94.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/ronaldo_barcelona.jpg

What a season that was. 37 goals in 36 games? Had never seen anything like that.

EDIT: it was 47 in 49 in all competitions. Unbelievable at the time.

[Since452]

Hearts get 'undisclosed fee' as Conor Washington signs for Charlton

https://t.co/7DNs7hGzf8

I'm surprised Hearts didn't have to pay Charlton to take him

[J-C]

He’s not started a game this season. For me he’s falling into the Slivka category. Don’t know what he’s really good at, best position. Would rather we moved him on too and got mcrorie in someone that Ross really thinks could make a move for a starting jersey

Guys got 2 years left on his contract, cant just get rid.

[Since452]

He's a bit chunky and past his best but was outstanding for them the first time round.

There's only one Ronaldo.

Brazilian Ronaldo the greatest player to have played the game in my opinion. Pace, power, skill had everything. Injuries finished him but wow what a phenomenon he was.

[Stuart93]

Not at all. I don’t understand how Allan had one of the best assists and chances created record not so long ago, and one assist already in one match started people would give Mallan a chance there. For a football reason that doesn’t make any sense to me that Ross is ever likely to try that purely on the basis he deserves a chance. He would rightfully get a chance if he was doing it in training and cameos as subs etc. But that’s just me I personally think Allan is quite a bit ahead of where Mallan is at the moment.

Wasn’t it just the season before Mallan also scored a decent number of goals and contributed a good number of assists for the team? As well as winning player of the year?

I’m not saying Mallan should be a starter ahead of Allan but he needs another chance imo

[Keith_M]

Hearts get 'undisclosed fee' as Conor Washington signs for Charlton

https://t.co/7DNs7hGzf8


I think it was his train fare to London.

[B.H.F.C]

Wasn’t it just the season before Mallan also scored a decent number of goals and contributed a good number of assists for the team? As well as winning player of the year?

I’m not saying Mallan should be a starter ahead of Allan but he needs another chance imo

Maybe if he can get himself fit he will get one.

Horgan is an example. This time last week I don’t think many people were picking him in their team for Livingston. Came in, did well, started the next game. There will definitely be opportunities for players this year with our smaller squad.

[Nicho87]

Wasn’t it just the season before Mallan also scored a decent number of goals and contributed a good number of assists for the team? As well as winning player of the year?

I’m not saying Mallan should be a starter ahead of Allan but he needs another chance imo

I am not against or anti Mallan at all. He’s a decent player on his day. In my opinion Allan is the better number ten by country mile. Maybe Mallan could be used more with Gogic there to defend. Mallan is not a holding midfielder that’s where hecky screwed him and the balance of the team when releasing Marv and Milligan

[NASAHIBS]

Any news on keepers? Could do with a safe pair of hands on the bench with dabrowski maybe going on loan to a championship club like alloa or hearts. Only been tested at L2 level, and we know rocky can get complacent when the competition isn't strong

Noticed on SPFL site that Craig Samson is listed in the squad numbers. So, would say we are sticking with Rocky & Dabrowski, with Samson registered in a real emergency.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Brazilian Ronaldo the greatest player to have played the game in my opinion. Pace, power, skill had everything. Injuries finished him but wow what a phenomenon he was.

Pre Injuries and night clubs absolutely

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

Allan started the first match and we won. How can you see he needs to add more to his game if he is to start. He started all last season and the first game of this one.

I think the overreaction to a guy being out for 2 away matches is way too much.

It’s not an over reaction. It’s an observation.

We were shaky against Killie, Scott gave the ball away countless times in midfield that put us under undue pressure. I know he created the goal but we are more secure when he doesn’t play, at the moment.

If Scott wants to start, he’ll have to play better and contribute more. I really hope that happens as he is probably the most technically gifted in our squad.

But I guess that management have already made that call and perhaps had that same conversation with him.


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[NorthNorfolkHFC]

Posts like this about Allan are so over the top.

We won the first game, with Allan in the team. We were then good without him in the second. We then improved with him on the pitch in the third (drawing when he came on).

More to his game to start? I’d bet he’ll start the majority of our games this season and won’t be surprised to see him back in the team on Saturday.

How is it over the top? It is a minor observation about our excellent start.

Calm down and take off the Allan tinted specs.

I hope he gets back in the team as he can do things others in the squad can’t.


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[sean04]

Wonder if hibs would turn there attention to Ali McCann at st Johnstone or Campbell at Motherwell if the mccorie deal doesn’t happen

[B.H.F.C]

How is it over the top? It is a minor observation about our excellent start.

Calm down and take off the Allan tinted specs.

I hope he gets back in the team as he can do things others in the squad can’t.


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You said Allan needs ‘a lot more to his game if he’s is to start games’.

That is over the top IMO.

[we are hibs]

Guys got 2 years left on his contract, cant just get rid.

If hes such a good player surely clubs would be queuing up to snap him up then?

[LeithMike]

I think that’s what you were waiting on someone saying wasn’t it?

I wouldn’t say second choice but giving Mallan a chance to prove himself in his natural position wouldn’t be a bad ideaI'm not sure attacking midfield is Mallan's natural position. I think in that role you need to be able to carry the ball and beat a man. I don't think SM has shown in his time at Hibs that he has that in his locker. No doubting his shooting ability though.

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[Alan62]

Surely it's not a case of this guy or that guy in modern football. If you have Allan and Mallan, you have options both in the starting line up and to change things during the game. Stevie Mallan is an excellent player who has the ability to make an important contribution to our season.

[hibee-boys]

I'm not sure attacking midfield is Mallan's natural position. I think in that role you need to be able to carry the ball and beat a man. I don't think SM has shown in his time at Hibs that he has that in his locker. No doubting his shooting ability though.

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I think that is Mallan's problem, no doubting his ability to strike a ball but if he's not a number 10 then what is his position as he ain't no defensive/holding midfielder or winger.....doesn't have the work rate to play a box to box. I think he's a good addition to the squad when fit but can only see him coming on for the last 25mins of a game to replace Allan, and thats only if we're playing 3-5-2. Hope he proves me wrong.

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

You said Allan needs ‘a lot more to his game if he’s is to start games’.

That is over the top IMO.

Ok, he needs to add ‘some’ more aspects to his game to be a starter under this manager. IMO.




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[Ozyhibby]

Wonder if hibs would turn there attention to Ali McCann at st Johnstone or Campbell at Motherwell if the mccorie deal doesn’t happen

We should def be looking at these players.


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[B.H.F.C]

Ok, he needs to add ‘some’ more aspects to his game to be a starter under this manager. IMO.




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Na. He needs to do what he’s good at better.

This manager has started him in at least 90% of the games he’s managed for us. Will go on to start the majority of games this season IMO.

[Leitherhibs]

We should def be looking at these players.


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We should, both are worth north of 500k though, so I’d imagine we’d be priced out.

[Ozyhibby]

We should, both are worth north of 500k though, so I’d imagine we’d be priced out.

Worth testing that valuation? Covid has been a strain on club finances so who knows? Both clubs may make more by selling to us with a sell on fee attached.


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[J-C]

If hes such a good player surely clubs would be queuing up to snap him up then?


And if they're not, he has 2 years left with us, not a lot you can do unless you pay him off which won't happen. James is still here after being told he's surplus yet no one has snapped him up yet, again 2 years left on his deal, Hallberg is a decent player who will be needed during the season, it's up to him to force his way into the team.

[Unseen work]

Think quite a few are underestimating just what a good signing McCrorie would be.

For his age he has a good bit of experience, Loan spells with Ayr and Portsmouth where he got to the play off finals and obviously a good few games with rangers where he played in Europe. Also captain of the Scotland under 21s.

He would be a statement of real intent imo.

Mccann and Campbell are also very good players however both their clubs probably would want over 1 million for them. McCrorie is the same age as them and potentially be half the price.

[J-C]

I think that is Mallan's problem, no doubting his ability to kick a ball but if he's not a number 10 then what is his position as he ain't no defensive/holding midfielder or winger.....doesn't have the work rate to play a box to box. I think he's a good addition to the squad when fit but can only see him coming on for the last 25mins of a game to replace Allan, and thats only if we're playing 3-5-2. Hope he proves me wrong.


Is he not just A midfielder, far too much emphasis on holding/attacking etc.

[KingPat4]

Would not surprise me if Hearts were to sneak in with a bid and carrot of big wages for either Docherty or McCrorie.

[bigwheel]

Worth testing that valuation? Covid has been a strain on club finances so who knows? Both clubs may make more by selling to us with a sell on fee attached.


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We are not in a position to successfully bid for first team talent from Motherwell..out of our price range. The same for St Johnstone, only towards the end of his contract would that be an option.

[04Sauzee]

Think quite a few are underestimating just what a good signing McCrorie would be.

For his age he has a good bit of experience, Loan spells with Ayr and Portsmouth where he got to the play off finals and obviously a good few games with rangers where he played in Europe. Also captain of the Scotland under 21s.

He would be a statement of real intent imo.

Mccann and Campbell are also very good players however both their clubs probably would want over 1 million for them. McCrorie is the same age as them and potentially be half the price.

Agreed

McCrorie only turned 22 in March

15/16 Ayr Utd 15 appearances
16/17 Dumbarton 9 appearances
17/18 Rangers 24 appearances
18/19 Rangers 30 appeaeances
19/20 Portsmouth 23 appearances

In total 101 appearances with over half (54)being with Rangers and as I say only 22

[GreenPJ]

Would not surprise me if Hearts were to sneak in with a bid and carrot of big wages for either Docherty or McCrorie.

They could sneak in with a bid but I get the impression (from Docherty at least) that they are looking to develop their career and would see English League One as being better from a financial and a development viewpoint than a season in the Scottish Championship. I also think that if McCrorie is willing to walk away from the team he supported with 2 years on his contract to get game time then its against better opposition than Arbroath (no offence to Arbroath).

[Latapy'sVolley]

Pal is a Portsmouth fan and speaks highly of McCrorie, but also framed it by saying "but we're only in League One so not sure how good he is." Important to note said pal is from a family of Celtic fans so knows SPFL standard.

Feel like this could be a classic case of a player we don't really know much about becoming seemingly essential the more bids that get rejected. If it happens - fantastic, fits the bill for what we should be looking at and could be a long term asset. If it doesn't, don't think we should worry too much about it because it can't have been right for us.

[MWHIBBIES]

I am not against or anti Mallan at all. He’s a decent player on his day. In my opinion Allan is the better number ten by country mile. Maybe Mallan could be used more with Gogic there to defend. Mallan is not a holding midfielder that’s where hecky screwed him and the balance of the team when releasing Marv and Milligan

Lennon had him playing infront of the back 4, before we'd even heard of Paul Heckingbottom. There was no competition for attacking midfield at that time and he still didn't make it his own.

Mallan has a great shot, okay passing, good free kicks and technique. He doesn't really have much else. He could make a good impact but he is just as likely to make no impact IMO.

One of the ones I'd be fine with moving on if the right offer came in.

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

Na. He needs to do what he’s good at better.

This manager has started him in at least 90% of the games he’s managed for us. Will go on to start the majority of games this season IMO.

Then IMO he will sit on bench more often than not.

Time will tell who is right. I sincerely hope you are.


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[sean04]

We are not in a position to successfully bid for first team talent from Motherwell..out of our price range. The same for St Johnstone, only towards the end of his contract would that be an option.

I don’t think st Johnstone are in a great financial position. Rely heavily on away support

[MagicSwirlingShip]

I'm not sure attacking midfield is Mallan's natural position. I think in that role you need to be able to carry the ball and beat a man. I don't think SM has shown in his time at Hibs that he has that in his locker. No doubting his shooting ability though.

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The Mallan conundrum.

He is, in my opinion at his most effective when getting shots away from around the box and influencing play in attacking areas. When he was sitting deep in the “quarterback”’ type role he wasn’t affecting the game enough in the final third and isn’t strong defensively.

Think he would work well in Newells position in the current system with Gogic mopping up behind. Newells got the shirt at the minute though, rightly so. When SM returns from injury he will have to settle for a place on the bench and try to affect the game as much as he can in sub appearances

[The Count]

I have been following the Allan,Mallan and Newall discussion.Its a squad game over this long season so its a good problem fir Ross to wrestle with.Compare it to some of the mugs we have had in midfield over the years.

[King Cosell]

I don’t think st Johnstone are in a great financial position. Rely heavily on away support

They'll be praying their Old Firm home games aren't shown on Sky.

[BlackSheep]

The Mallan conundrum.

He is, in my opinion at his most effective when getting shots away from around the box and influencing play in attacking areas. When he was sitting deep in the “quarterback”’ type role he wasn’t affecting the game enough in the final third and isn’t strong defensively.

Think he would work well in Newells position in the current system with Gogic mopping up behind. Newells got the shirt at the minute though, rightly so. When SM returns from injury he will have to settle for a place on the bench and try to affect the game as much as he can in sub appearances

And this is the way of football, Newell is playing well and there’s no reason the drop him... next in line for that position (in that formation) is Allan... then Mallan.

A run of playing 3 CMs may see Mallan GTE his chance earlier but as long as the team are playing well then good players will miss out... it’s not the worst problem to have is it?

[The Modfather]

Lennon had him playing infront of the back 4, before we'd even heard of Paul Heckingbottom. There was no competition for attacking midfield at that time and he still didn't make it his own.

Mallan has a great shot, okay passing, good free kicks and technique. He doesn't really have much else. He could make a good impact but he is just as likely to make no impact IMO.

One of the ones I'd be fine with moving on if the right offer came in.

Are his stats for goals (13) and assists (9) from the 18/19 season not comparable to the stats from Allan last season? Surely it’s as relevant to make the case for Mallan playing based on those stats as it is for Allans stats last season which have been used earlier? My observation is more around the use of stats to tell the full story than the merits of playing either Mallan or Allan.

I don’t think we currently particularly miss Mallan at the moment, and I’d be happy to sacrifice him if it allowed us to get a Docherty type of player. However he is a great luxury to have available IMO.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

And this is the way of football, Newell is playing well and there’s no reason the drop him... next in line for that position (in that formation) is Allan... then Mallan.

A run of playing 3 CMs may see Mallan GTE his chance earlier but as long as the team are playing well then good players will miss out... it’s not the worst problem to have is it?

All part of having a strong squad.

Onus is on the guys waiting in the wings to impress when called upon and make the shirt theirs.

Far too many posters looking to get rid of players just because they are on the bench. We need to build as strong a squad as possible and keep all of our good players, playing or not

[MWHIBBIES]

Are his stats for goals (13) and assists (9) from the 18/19 season not comparable to the stats from Allan last season? Surely it’s as relevant to make the case for Mallan playing based on those stats as it is for Allans stats last season which have been used earlier? My observation is more around the use of stats to tell the full story than the merits of playing either Mallan or Allan.

I don’t think we currently particularly miss Mallan at the moment, and I’d be happy to sacrifice him if it allowed us to get a Docherty type of player. However he is a great luxury to have available IMO.

Yes, Mallan done pretty well that season, especially early on. He was never anywhere near as decisive as Allan, though. He done well when the team was, badly when the team was. His stats look great but 2 goals in a 6-0 win over Hamilton and 4 against the faroe mob definitely boost things a bit. Not that they don't count of course but they didn't particularly matter. He also played many more minutes than Allan, nearly 1200 more, an extra 13 full matches.

Mallan was never dropped when his form dipped which I think is what annoys me most about him. He started 36 of the 38 league matches in his first season despite his form falling off massively after the 4-2 loss at Celtic. He should've been taken out but that isn't his fault. On the other hand, Allan has one sub par game vs Kilmarnock, still assisting the winning goal, and folk say he was to improve massively to get back in.

Mallan has his talents but you cant select a guy on the off chance the opposition let him shoot from the edge of the box or we get a free kick. He has to offer a lot more than that and I don't think he does.

Mallans assits are actually far more important to us than his goalscoring if you look at them in terms of the points they earned. Very often assisted a vital goal or the first goal. Its again just about offering it consistently, as well as keeping the ball well, dictating the game etc. Things he doesn't do well IMO.

[Greenworld]

All clubs outside premier to cease training until at least 24th Aug nae luck hearts lol

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[MWHIBBIES]

All clubs outside premier to cease training until at least 24th Aug nae luck hearts lol

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Tbf, its not like the gameplan of ''wallop it up the park'' takes many sessions to get across.

[Wilson]

Feel like this could be a classic case of a player we don't really know much about becoming seemingly essential the more bids that get rejected. If it happens - fantastic, fits the bill for what we should be looking at and could be a long term asset. If it doesn't, don't think we should worry too much about it because it can't have been right for us.

I get what you are saying but it isn't so much about what we know about the player. At least not this time. When the recruitment team seem to be recruiting this well then you want them to keep getting their man.

[TheGog]

All clubs outside premier to cease training until at least 24th Aug nae luck hearts lol

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Find it a tad harsh when your Sunday leagues are allowed to train, Leith athletic etc are back as well, harsh but very very funny

[Alex Trager]

Wonder if hibs would turn there attention to Ali McCann at st Johnstone or Campbell at Motherwell if the mccorie deal doesn’t happen

Would like to see us go there. Reckon they would be cheaper than RM

[davhibby]

Find it a tad harsh when your Sunday leagues are allowed to train, Leith athletic etc are back as well, harsh but very very funny

They’ve all to stop as well

[xyz23jc]

Tbf, its not like the gameplan of ''wallop it up the park'' takes many sessions to get across.

It is however, BIG and FAMOUS and THE TALK O' THE TOON with over 400,000 MAROON POUND waving.....errrrm... People totally delu..sorry, in agreement with it!
It's what all the BIGLIEST clubs in the CHAMPIONSHIP do! :greengrin:thumbsup:

[badabing67]

Agreed

McCrorie only turned 22 in March

15/16 Ayr Utd 15 appearances
16/17 Dumbarton 9 appearances
17/18 Rangers 24 appearances
18/19 Rangers 30 appeaeances
19/20 Portsmouth 23 appearances

In total 101 appearances with over half (54)being with Rangers and as I say only 22

He's not that far behind Scottie

[Stuart93]

Ex sports journalist Andy Ridgwell saying on Twitter we’re wanting Jason Kerr from St J

[Billy Whizz]

Ex sports journalist Andy Ridgwell saying on Twitter we’re wanting Jason Kerr from St J

If there’s any truth in this, I know someone on the PM board who would confirm or deny this
Think he’s a Hibs supporter too

[Northernhibee]

Ex sports journalist Andy Ridgwell saying on Twitter we’re wanting Jason Kerr from St J

I'd be happy with that, would be another gem of an acquisition, if not a marquee signing.

[04Sauzee]

Ex sports journalist Andy Ridgwell saying on Twitter we’re wanting Jason Kerr from St J

Thought he was the boy from Wham for a minute 👀

[Unseen work]

Just got a text saying Motherwell are signing Stephen O’Donnell, be a very good signing imo.

[we are hibs]

Ex sports journalist Andy Ridgwell saying on Twitter we’re wanting Jason Kerr from St J

That boy seems to be throwing round hundreds of rumours and hoping a few stick.

[PatHead]

Any news on keepers? Could do with a safe pair of hands on the bench with dabrowski maybe going on loan to a championship club like alloa or hearts. Only been tested at L2 level, and we know rocky can get complacent when the competition isn't strong

I agree we need another keeper. If Rocky gets injured we have no experience for either the bench or to provide cover.

[Souter96Mac]

Just got a text saying Motherwell are signing Stephen O’Donnell, be a very good signing imo.

Yeah seems to be doing the rounds on twitter. Good signing

[Vault Boy]

I'd be happy with that, would be another gem of an acquisition, if not a marquee signing.

It's been mentioned on here before that he's a big Hibby that would jump at the chance. I've always rated Kerr and think he'd be a smart signing.

[CapitalGreen]

Ex sports journalist Andy Ridgwell saying on Twitter we’re wanting Jason Kerr from St J

Think you’ve fallen for a spoof twitter account.

[Ronniekirk]

All clubs outside premier to cease training until at least 24th Aug nae luck hearts lol

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Why ?


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[we are hibs]

O'Donnell signs for Motherwell

[04Sauzee]

Just got a text saying Motherwell are signing Stephen O’Donnell, be a very good signing imo.

Kilmarnock to Motherwell can't be step up? Huge sideways step if you ask me.

[Unseen work]

Just got a text saying Motherwell are signing Stephen O’Donnell, be a very good signing imo.

Confirmed

[Unseen work]

Kilmarnock to Motherwell can't be step up? Huge sideways step if you ask me.

I would agree, seems an odd one.

Clearly thought he could get a much better team, presumably down south however Covid has ruined his plans.

[04Sauzee]

O'Donnell signs for Motherwell

Short term deal until the next transfer window.

[bingo70]

Short term deal until the next transfer window.

Has he had a pre-season?