Summer 2020-21 transfer thread

[Billy Whizz]

There are lots of aspiring managers on this thread
I’ll stick to Jack Ross’s views for the moment

[LeithMike]

Murray better than Mallan?! What am I reading. The lack of respect on here for Mallan is frightening, he’s only turned 24 this year which is still relatively young. By the time he was Murray’s age he had played close to 100 games for St Mirren, scored a heap of goals and got a move to Barnsley in the championship.

Since moving to us he has scored 14 goals in 2 seasons from centre mid, often the deep lying playmaker role.

Murray has scored 4 goals for us - Turriff, Alloa, Montrose and Arbroath, all in the challenge cup/pre season like games. The most noticeable thing he has done in the first team was a good assist against Aberdeen.

Mallan has brilliant technique, passing ability, shooting ability and great at set pieces. If used correctly, in an attacking manner he could be brilliant, imo he should be used similar to Kris Commons at Celtic. He is still young and learning like I said, he still has a lot of potential.

Mallan may not be the best defensively but he is head and shoulders better at it than Murray who doesn’t seem to get criticised on that side of his game.

I also don’t think Murray looks particularly fast or mobile for a 21 year old, always looks quite slow to me.

With Murray I really want him to succeed and play well but every time he comes on I just don’t see it. He rarely beat his man or creates anything, tends to come on and keep it very safe almost like he’s scared to make a mistake.I don't think anyone is necessarily saying Murray is better than Mallan. I think people have seen a lot of Mallan and some have identified clear weaknesses in his game. I know people want to see him in an attacking role but for me he doesn't have the mobility or skill to beat a man up and looks a little lost in that position too. His talent getting an early shot or cross in but, again, for me, that isn't enough to get a game in a team wanting to challenge for the top 4. I don't know much about Murray but he needs a run in the centre of the park and I think we would be fine going into the season with him as an understudy for Alan.

For me Mallan's best position is on the right of midfield as he can get the support of the full back defensively and doesn't need to get up and down the park and find space like you do in the centre. It also means he can use his undoubted technical ability to cross and shoot. I still prefer a more traditional winter though.

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[bingo70]

There are lots of aspiring managers on this thread
I’ll stick to Jack Ross’s views for the moment

You can still have an opinion on things though.

My problem with Mallan is I don’t really know where he fits in, contrary to popular opinion, playing him in an attacking midfield role doesn’t work as he never gets any space. He’s not strong enough defensively to play a deeper role and I’m not convinced he has the energy or discipline to play a box to box role. Against weaker opposition he gets away with it but I think consistently against the better sides I’ve never been convinced he’s that good.

I also think he got his player of the year award because of his set piece ability and number of goals he scored. While he deserves credit for that and i don’t want to detract from that I don’t personally think we can have a player purely for their free kicks and corners.

I’m not really fussed for Fraser Murray either tbh, not sure where that leaves me in this debate.

[Gaffer1875]

Seen enough of Fraser Murray to sadly place him in the ‘not good enough’ bracket. I think he’ll have a similar career to Danny Handling although would love to be proven wrong.


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[B.H.F.C]

You can still have an opinion on things though.

My problem with Mallan is I don’t really know where he fits in, contrary to popular opinion, playing him in an attacking midfield role doesn’t work as he never gets any space. He’s not strong enough defensively to play a deeper role and I’m not convinced he has the energy or discipline to play a box to box role. Against weaker opposition he gets away with it but I think consistently against the better sides I’ve never been convinced he’s that good.

I also think he got his player of the year award because of his set piece ability and number of goals he scored. While he deserves credit for that and i don’t want to detract from that I don’t personally think we can have a player purely for their free kicks and corners.

I’m not really fussed for Fraser Murray either tbh, not sure where that leaves me in this debate.

I think Mallan’s set piece ability is sometimes a wee bit overstated. Scored 3 or 4 but the majority of his goals have been from open play.

[Gaffer1875]

Is Stephen McGinn still training with us?


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[The 90+2]

marciano gets injured we are left with a young untried goalkeeper, who makes the bench? goalie is a must!

Defence, It's more a case of getting rid of a few to bring in players that will make more of an impact. As much as I love gray and Mcgregor they aren't going to play every week, and are past their best. Not sure Mcginn is good enough to be a regular starter for a team pushing for europe, certainly not in an attacking sense, so again I'd look to trim that especially getting rid of James and bring in a regular starter. On the other side Stevenson isn't good enough and that's our first choice left back so we need to let him or mackie go and find someone to come in and nail that position. Centre backs, I'm not Hanlon's biggest fan he's too soft for me but he's left sided so will do, Porteous has potential but is a work In progress, still too rash. Jackson is ok, done well this year. Least of our priority's is the centre of defence I suppose. But if we were bringing in a CB it would need to be left sided.

Midfield I'm happy with Gogic holding, with Allan, Newell and Mallan. Wouldn't be upset to see Hallberg leave as I'm not sure what his strengths actually are, don't think he's particularly good at anything tbh. Murray again if he's not had a breakthrough yet he's probably not good enough. Wingers are ok aslong as we can keep boyle.

strikers, happy with what we've got, perhaps bringing in one more, wouldn't be against Simon murray particularly if we are playing 2 upfront which looks likely.

Quality over quantity. That's the way forward.

Absolutely spot on.

[04Sauzee]

Is Stephen McGinn still training with us?


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Yip it was reported yesterday along with a picture, which is pretty sure it's not with a view to a deal

[supermcginn]

the amount of crosses we allow into our box is unbelievable! Stevenson is bottom 6 standard, so is Mcginn. That's the reality of it. The full backs need upgraded.

100 percent. They wouldn't get near for example the Aberdeen starting eleven.

[bingo70]

Yip it was reported yesterday along with a picture, which is pretty sure it's not with a view to a deal

I know someone got stick for this before but I’m not sure what the point is of letting someone train to use our facilities in the current environment with the training centre on lockdown to everyone else. Seems an unnecessary ‘risk’ to me.

FWIW this isn’t a moan for mornings sake, I just think there may be more to it than just him training. We only really have Gogic that can play that defensive midfield role. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if he ends up signing a short term deal to see us through as cover until January.

[Gaffer1875]

I know someone got stick for this before but I’m not sure what the point is of letting someone train to use our facilities in the current environment with the training centre on lockdown to everyone else. Seems an unnecessary ‘risk’ to me.

FWIW this isn’t a moan for mornings sake, I just think there may be more to it than just him training. We only really have Gogic that can play that defensive midfield role. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if he ends up signing a short term deal to see us through as cover until January.

I’d take him on some kind of short term deal, always liked him as a player. It’s clear JR rates him as a player / personality.


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[bingo70]

I’d take him on some kind of short term deal, always liked him as a player. It’s clear JR rates him as a player / personality.


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Not one I’d be excited about but given the circumstances if he’d be cheap enough and as a back up option it probably wouldn’t be the daftest move. Sort of cheaper replacement for Whittaker (obviously I don’t know what Whittaker earned but I’m making an assumption it would be more that Mcginn could command now)

[S4uzee]

Not one I’d be excited about but given the circumstances if he’d be cheap enough and as a back up option it probably wouldn’t be the daftest move. Sort of cheaper replacement for Whittaker (obviously I don’t know what Whittaker earned but I’m making an assumption it would be more that Mcginn could command now)

We need to get out of the mentality of ‘cheap back-up option’ or ‘could do a job’

[bingo70]

We need to get out of the mentality of ‘cheap back-up option’ or ‘could do a job’

Normal world I’d completely agree but things are a bit strange just now.

If signing Mcginn instead of someone like Omeonga (just an example) allowed us to spend a bit money on likes of Nesbitt and Gogic then it’s probably a smart move.

[04Sauzee]

Normal world I’d completely agree but things are a bit strange just now.

If signing Mcginn instead of someone like Omeonga (just an example) allowed us to spend a bit money on likes of Nesbitt and Gogic then it’s probably a smart move.

Spot on, I don't think he will be signing but we have to use the budget the best we can.

[Inconsequential]

the amount of crosses we allow into our box is unbelievable! Stevenson is bottom 6 standard, so is Mcginn. That's the reality of it. The full backs need upgraded. Stevenson and McGinn are bottom six standard. In fact the whole team is bottom six standard that's why we finished in 7th. place. Pause for thought.

[HendoDelivered]

If we get Doc I can’t see McGinn getting a deal.

[bingo70]

Spot on, I don't think he will be signing but we have to use the budget the best we can.

I just don’t see why we’re letting him train with us if there’s no chance of him signing?

Normally of course letting someone like that train with you would be absolutely fine, it’s not normal times though. Presumably he’ll be pals with some of the St Mirren boys, now they’ve had positive test results, has he been in context with any of them? Played golf maybe or met up for a coffee or a drink? I don’t know the answer to that but that’s precisely why the club have been running a closed shop at the training centre recently with essential staff only, just in case. Doing a former colleague a favour doesn’t fall into that category to me?

If there’s genuinely no prospect of him signing then there’s a potential risk there for no reward, doesn’t make sense to me.

I’m not against him signing as a back up squad player but I don’t think he should be there if he’s not.

[Fergus52]

sorry but I totally disagree. Aberdeen, and motherwell are better than us, and livi seem to know how to grind results out. We don't.

We looked streets ahead of both Aberdeen and Motherwell in the two victories at ER when Jack Ross first came in imo. Then the game at pittodrie we were doing fine until Whittaker's red card.

I'm pretty sure we picked up much more points than both Motherwell and livi between heckingbottom getting sacked and the league finishing. I'd put decent money on us coming ahead of both those teams, guess we'll see who's right at the end of the season.

[hibee-boys]

I'm afraid it looks like we'll be filing Fraser Murray and Mackie under Handling, Stanton, Harris etc. All tidy enough footballers but just don't, or didn't, have enough to truly nail down a first team place. We need youngsters coming through to challenge for places not just make up the numbers and/or play bit parts in games.

[Fergus52]

Stevenson and McGinn are bottom six standard. In fact the whole team is bottom six standard that's why we finished in 7th. place. Pause for thought.

We finished 7th because of heckingbottoms terrible start to the season.

[Unseen work]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/melker-hallberg-why-202021-season-will-be-vital-hibs-midfielder-2919829

Good wee article on Melker Hallberg, although I don’t recall him ever playing on the right. Iirc he can straight into a central position.

I do like him and he had some very good games for us, think he could be a big player for us and has some very good experience for someone his age.

Hopefully this season he really kicks on and cements his place centrally.

[Andy74]

I just don’t see why we’re letting him train with us if there’s no chance of him signing?

Normally of course letting someone like that train with you would be absolutely fine, it’s not normal times though. Presumably he’ll be pals with some of the St Mirren boys, now they’ve had positive test results, has he been in context with any of them? Played golf maybe or met up for a coffee or a drink? I don’t know the answer to that but that’s precisely why the club have been running a closed shop at the training centre recently with essential staff only, just in case. Doing a former colleague a favour doesn’t fall into that category to me?

If there’s genuinely no prospect of him signing then there’s a potential risk there for no reward, doesn’t make sense to me.

I’m not against him signing as a back up squad player but I don’t think he should be there if he’s not.

I think that’s a bit much. They are all testing every week. One additional player training is neither here nor there.

[The 90+2]

If we get Doc I can’t see McGinn getting a deal.

That would be ridiculous. Docherty or Omeonga.

[04Sauzee]

ABERDEEN

#Aberdeen chairman Dave Cormack says the club will not be paying transfer fees for players following £1million of wage cuts.

He also says the club will employ a one-in, one-out policy. https://t.co/HLiRu1YsdR

[bingo70]

I think that’s a bit much. They are all testing every week. One additional player trading is neither here nor there.

Why not?

What if he is the one to get it? I don’t mean to sound flippant about a virus that has been so deadly but is that not exactly the nature of the way we are having to train and behave as a club just now? It only takes one person to get it to cause real problems?

It’s meant to be the absolute bare bones down at the training centre I thought, for that reason?

[King Cosell]

Stevenson and McGinn are bottom six standard. In fact the whole team is bottom six standard that's why we finished in 7th. place. Pause for thought.
2020/21 Odds:

Celtic 4/9
Rangers 7/4
Aberdeen 40/1
Hibs 100/1
Killie, Well & Livi 500/1

If Whittaker hadn't been sent off at Pittodrie, we would have been 2pts off 4rth place. Should have won all 3 v Aberdeen, drew 5 or 6 games we should have won comfortably. Management change, Boyle injury, lots of bad luck. We've got a top 4 squad.

[Nicho87]

Celtic fan pages in twitter saying Lennon eyeing up Boyle. No shock sadly. Sorry if already posted

[Unseen work]

Celtic fan pages in twitter saying Lennon eyeing up Boyle. No shock sadly. Sorry if already posted

Patrick McPartlin who writes about hibs also says he has an article about Boyle that will be published tomorrow....

[04Sauzee]

Celtic fan pages in twitter saying Lennon eyeing up Boyle. No shock sadly. Sorry if already posted

1m + Greg Taylor on loan

[Vault Boy]

1m + Greg Taylor on loan

Won't be sending their first choice left back out on loan any time soon! Like your optimism though. :wink:

[SMAXXA]

I'm afraid it looks like we'll be filing Fraser Murray and Mackie under Handling, Stanton, Harris etc. All tidy enough footballers but just don't, or didn't, have enough to truly nail down a first team place. We need youngsters coming through to challenge for places not just make up the numbers and/or play bit parts in games.

Problems for me are, we don’t tend to give any youngster a real sustained run in the team to allow them to make mistakes, learn and be more confident as they progress which for me tends to lend towards the ‘safe’ performances we see from them. We don’t bring through enough young players and give them that chance for me and who was the last genuine attacking talent we brought though the academy that you look at and think what an exciting player he is?

A lot of the players seem to have similar attributes including the ones you correctly mention above you could go back and throw Sean Welsh, Scott Martin and even wotherspoon into that category. All ‘decent’ enough not spectacular but nothing special which has been evident in the careers they have went on to have (spoony has done ok at St J but it’s St J).

Makes me often wonder what type of player we scout and try to develop. Said it before and stand by it we haven’t had enough from the academy imo for the reasons above.

[04Sauzee]

Won't be sending their first choice left back out on loan any time soon! Like your optimism though. :wink:

Don't ask you don't get 😁😁

Fringpong has been showing up well for them in bounce games and they have Bolingoli im not actually sure who their first choice left back is, but they also had Hayes play there last season?

Just seen Frimpong plays RB but can play LB

[Andy74]

Why not?

What if he is the one to get it? I don’t mean to sound flippant about a virus that has been so deadly but is that not exactly the nature of the way we are having to train and behave as a club just now? It only takes one person to get it to cause real problems?

It’s meant to be the absolute bare bones down at the training centre I thought, for that reason?

I think that’s overplaying it a bit. We are playing games in 10 days or so. We might still be looking at bringing other new players in.

We are testing twice a week again now. He’s no more of a risk to the others than every single other player and staff member there.

The players aren’t in a bubble and are exposed to people in their everyday lives.

We are trying to get back to football. I think bringing the virus into every little thing like this is a bit OTT.

[JammyDoidger]

2020/21 Odds:

Celtic 4/9
Rangers 7/4
Aberdeen 40/1
Hibs 100/1
Killie, Well & Livi 500/1

If Whittaker hadn't been sent off at Pittodrie, we would have been 2pts off 4rth place. Should have won all 3 v Aberdeen, drew 5 or 6 games we should have won comfortably. Management change, Boyle injury, lots of bad luck. We've got a top 4 squad.

it's alright saying shoulda coulda woulda, we might look very good at times, but we are also soft as *****! That's not going to change right away, just because gogic has came in. He can't be everywhere. Paul Hanlon wears the captains armband most weeks, there's a problem in itself!

[inglisavhibs]

it's alright saying shoulda coulda woulda, we might look very good at times, but we are also soft as *****! That's not going to change right away, just because gogic has came in. He can't be everywhere. Paul Hanlon wears the captains armband most weeks, there's a problem in itself!
Getting a bit obvious are you not.

[HoboHarry]

Getting a bit obvious are you not.
Same thing occurred to me.

[CraigHibee]

Patrick McPartlin who writes about hibs also says he has an article about Boyle that will be published tomorrow....

I think boyle will be away unfortunately, if we get a decent fee for him i hope we can get docherty

[Brightside]

it's alright saying shoulda coulda woulda, we might look very good at times, but we are also soft as *****! That's not going to change right away, just because gogic has came in. He can't be everywhere. Paul Hanlon wears the captains armband most weeks, there's a problem in itself!

:greengrin Enjoy next season and your £8m comp.

[The 90+2]

:greengrin Enjoy next season and your £8m comp.

They said the exact same tonight on the talk Hibs podcast. I don’t think they are hearts fans. Just want the best Hibs team as possible.

Second or third worst defence in the league last season with a negative goal difference. There’s no point smashing head in the sand and saying it’s fine.

[Inconsequential]

We finished 7th because of heckingbottoms terrible start to the season. Ifs, buts and maybes... you could also say Heckingbottom (not a fan of btw) got Hibs into the top six the previous season. Hibs are where they are for a reason.

[matty_f]

Ifs, buts and maybes... you could also say Heckingbottom (not a fan of btw) got Hibs into the top six the previous season. Hibs are where they are for a reason.

Covid was the reason for us finishing 7th - we dropped a place due to the points per game, St Johnstone having not made their trip to Ibrox for their game in hand, so while it’s correct to say that we finished seventh, it’s disingenuous to portray that as reflective of where the team actually were.

It’s not like Hearts, who were by some distance the worst team in the league and were still the worst team in the league when the league was called.

[JammyDoidger]

Getting a bit obvious are you not.

What a joke of a comment. As soon as someone demands more, and points out things that irritate a large number of our support, you face comments like yours. Grow up.

[JammyDoidger]

They said the exact same tonight on the talk Hibs podcast. I don’t think they are hearts fans. Just want the best Hibs team as possible.

Second or third worst defence in the league last season with a negative goal difference. There’s no point smashing head in the sand and saying it’s fine.

Exactly!

[Mibbes Aye]

Covid was the reason for us finishing 7th - we dropped a place due to the points per game, St Johnstone having not made their trip to Ibrox for their game in hand, so while it’s correct to say that we finished seventh, it’s disingenuous to portray that as reflective of where the team actually were.

It’s not like Hearts, who were by some distance the worst team in the league and were still the worst team in the league when the league was called.

Being a busy man I don’t have a lot of time to pay attention to the sporting press but this was my understanding.

That then recalled memories of them stealing from the Poppy Fund, and in a Proustian turn of events a recollection of a massive bottling in the Dundee area in the mid-eighties.

Funny How memory works.

[Inconsequential]

Covid was the reason for us finishing 7th - we dropped a place due to the points per game, St Johnstone having not made their trip to Ibrox for their game in hand, so while it’s correct to say that we finished seventh, it’s disingenuous to portray that as reflective of where the team actually were.

It’s not like Hearts, who were by some distance the worst team in the league and were still the worst team in the league when the league was called. No sorry can't agree with that. Perhaps getting well beaten by the worst team in the league at home and throwing away a lead at Aberdeen could be why the club didn't finish in the top six. Simple.

[matty_f]

No sorry can't agree with that. Perhaps getting well beaten by the worst team in the league at home and throwing away a lead at Aberdeen could be why the club didn't finish in the top six. Simple.

We also easily beat the worst team in the league on their patch and beat Aberdeen comfortably at Easter Road, and were in 6th position looking forward to our next match when the league was called.

We were literally sixth, it took an alternative (and reasonable) points calculation to take St Johnstone into 6th - a position they’d not held at any point in the season, and we moved to seventh by a fraction of a point.

Picking out two results is a nonsense way of looking at it.

As ridiculous as building a stand with a stairway to a breeze block wall and forgetting to order seats for it.

[Mibbes Aye]

We also easily beat the worst team in the league on their patch and beat Aberdeen comfortably at Easter Road, and were in 6th position looking forward to our next match when the league was called.

We were literally sixth, it took an alternative (and reasonable) points calculation to take St Johnstone into 6th - a position they’d not held at any point in the season, and we moved to seventh by a fraction of a point.

Picking out two results is a nonsense way of looking at it.

As ridiculous as building a stand with a stairway to a breeze block wall and forgetting to order seats for it.

Yeah, but like that would happen in real life :rolleyes:

[matty_f]

[/B]
Yeah, but like that would happen in real life :rolleyes:

:greengrin

[Mibbes Aye]

:greengrin

You can grin all you like but no self-respecting second-tier team should find themselves in that position. Positively shameful, but also casting shame on the Scottish game in general.

[Tambo]

Any deal from Celtic for Boyle, I would be asking for Dembele on loan. The boy looks class.

[AlbertK86]

Normal world I’d completely agree but things are a bit strange just now.

If signing Mcginn instead of someone like Omeonga (just an example) allowed us to spend a bit money on likes of Nesbitt and Gogic then it’s probably a smart move.

Agree and he’s a leader on the park.... something we desperately lack


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[Aldo]

it's alright saying shoulda coulda woulda, we might look very good at times, but we are also soft as *****! That's not going to change right away, just because gogic has came in. He can't be everywhere. Paul Hanlon wears the captains armband most weeks, there's a problem in itself!


Ifs, buts and maybes... you could also say Heckingbottom (not a fan of btw) got Hibs into the top six the previous season. Hibs are where they are for a reason.

Whilst I want Hibs to finish as high up the league as possible and put out a competitive team we have to be realistic.

I have noted that you both post very negative posts about the team and players! Whilst I agree that we need to do better (we should always aim to do this) you constantly hammer it home that we are a bottom 6 team blah blah but when it’s pointed out to you why you fail to accept the reasons why.... and before you say it’s because we were poor etc and we should have been better, I get that but you have to also acknowledge that it’s partly because of these unprecedented times.

So if our players are so poor who should we sign to replace the following players you have been very critical of and think will leave us bottom 6

McGinn
Hanlon
Jackson
Stevenson
MacGregor
Gray

I am sure there were others but cannot be bothered trawling your posts!


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[jacomo]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/melker-hallberg-why-202021-season-will-be-vital-hibs-midfielder-2919829

Good wee article on Melker Hallberg, although I don’t recall him ever playing on the right. Iirc he can straight into a central position.

I do like him and he had some very good games for us, think he could be a big player for us and has some very good experience for someone his age.

Hopefully this season he really kicks on and cements his place centrally.


:agree:

[Since452]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/melker-hallberg-why-202021-season-will-be-vital-hibs-midfielder-2919829

Good wee article on Melker Hallberg, although I don’t recall him ever playing on the right. Iirc he can straight into a central position.

I do like him and he had some very good games for us, think he could be a big player for us and has some very good experience for someone his age.

Hopefully this season he really kicks on and cements his place centrally.

I thought we improved dramatically when we signed him. Now that he's settled in with a full pre season behind him I think he'll kick on

[04Sauzee]

Hibs striker Florian Kamberi given permission to return home to Switzerland amid St Gallen interest - but move back to Rangers looking increasingly unlikely despite striker shortage | By @atkotweets
https://t.co/5NU2kRWwih

[Fergus52]

Ifs, buts and maybes... you could also say Heckingbottom (not a fan of btw) got Hibs into the top six the previous season. Hibs are where they are for a reason.

We improved massively as soon as he left, both in terms of getting results and playing good football.

There were still some bad results but under Jack Ross we looked the 4th best team in the league imo, and the stats back it up. Since Heckingbottom got sacked we won 28 points, Motherwell won 24 and Livingston won 25.

We've now also made some good signings addressing major weaknesses in the squad without losing any key players, unlike the teams that finished around us last season.

[J-C]

Problems for me are, we don’t tend to give any youngster a real sustained run in the team to allow them to make mistakes, learn and be more confident as they progress which for me tends to lend towards the ‘safe’ performances we see from them. We don’t bring through enough young players and give them that chance for me and who was the last genuine attacking talent we brought though the academy that you look at and think what an exciting player he is?

A lot of the players seem to have similar attributes including the ones you correctly mention above you could go back and throw Sean Welsh, Scott Martin and even wotherspoon into that category. All ‘decent’ enough not spectacular but nothing special which has been evident in the careers they have went on to have (spoony has done ok at St J but it’s St J).

Makes me often wonder what type of player we scout and try to develop. Said it before and stand by it we haven’t had enough from the academy imo for the reasons above.


Good example of this is Mackie, was doing pretty ok pre season and early games, made a mistake against Rangers then never seen again, Stevenson was brought back into the team when he was clearly not 100% and he sort of suffered the rest of the season, Mackie was then punted to Dundee where he seemingly did fairly well.

[Andy74]

Good example of this is Mackie, was doing pretty ok pre season and early games, made a mistake against Rangers then never seen again, Stevenson was brought back into the team when he was clearly not 100% and he sort of suffered the rest of the season, Mackie was then punted to Dundee where he seemingly did fairly well.

Mackie is also another good example of a player that’s not quite at the level to be playing for Hibs. It should be difficult for anyone to get into a Hibs team and we need much better than him.

It is great when we can promote youth but they have to be good enough. We do make a lot of excuses for them as if they are entitled to play more games.

[Ozyhibby]

Good example of this is Mackie, was doing pretty ok pre season and early games, made a mistake against Rangers then never seen again, Stevenson was brought back into the team when he was clearly not 100% and he sort of suffered the rest of the season, Mackie was then punted to Dundee where he seemingly did fairly well.

If Dundee had a player who was playing ‘fairly well’ in the championship, would you be wanting us to sign him?
When we send player to the lower leagues on loan, they need to be tearing it up in order to prove they are good enough for Hibs. Not just doing ‘fairly well’.


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[J-C]

Mackie is also another good example of a player that’s not quite at the level to be playing for Hibs. It should be difficult for anyone to get into a Hibs team and we need much better than him.

It is great when we can promote youth but they have to be good enough. We do make a lot of excuses for them as if they are entitled to play more games.


Until some of these youngsters get a run in the team we'll never know, there was no reason to punt Mackie after Rangers as he was doing pretty well up until then, Lewis was way behind fitness wise and was nowhere near ready to come back, Heckinbottom ruined Mackie's confidence and Stevenson didn't look the same player all season. I read a bit from Mackie that he went to see Graeme Mathie and asked him if his Hibs career was over when Heckinbottom snubbed him and sent him to Dundee. We as a club have been chasing top 4 and Europe every season, this means we sign ready made 1st team players and over the season all too many of them that are just not any better than some of the youngsters we have, Vela, Bigi, Gauld, Mavrias, Nelom, James, Rherras.

[hibbysam]

If Dundee had a player who was playing ‘fairly well’ in the championship, would you be wanting us to sign him?
When we send player to the lower leagues on loan, they need to be tearing it up in order to prove they are good enough for Hibs. Not just doing ‘fairly well’.


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That’s utter nonsense I’m afraid. You go out on loan to get games under your belt, to get your confidence up, to play against hardened professionals. Going to a mediocre side isn’t going to make you stand out. No young player for hibs is going to go to Dundee and start running rings around the rest of the league. Scott Allan never stood out for Dundee but he’s a quality player. Your right that we wouldn’t sign someone who is doing ‘ok’ for Dundee, however I trust our staff to know our young players and there’s a reason they’re at hibs in the first place.

[Onceinawhile]

That’s utter nonsense I’m afraid. You go out on loan to get games under your belt, to get your confidence up, to play against hardened professionals. Going to a mediocre side isn’t going to make you stand out. No young player for hibs is going to go to Dundee and start running rings around the rest of the league. Scott Allan never stood out for Dundee but he’s a quality player. Your right that we wouldn’t sign someone who is doing ‘ok’ for Dundee, however I trust our staff to know our young players and there’s a reason they’re at hibs in the first place.

We signed Martin Boyle from Dundee when he couldn't get a look in iirc.

[B.H.F.C]

Until some of these youngsters get a run in the team we'll never know, there was no reason to punt Mackie after Rangers as he was doing pretty well up until then, Lewis was way behind fitness wise and was nowhere near ready to come back, Heckinbottom ruined Mackie's confidence and Stevenson didn't look the same player all season. I read a bit from Mackie that he went to see Graeme Mathie and asked him if his Hibs career was over when Heckinbottom snubbed him and sent him to Dundee. We as a club have been chasing top 4 and Europe every season, this means we sign ready made 1st team players and over the season all too many of them that are just not any better than some of the youngsters we have, Vela, Bigi, Gauld, Mavrias, Nelom, James, Rherras.

We’ve seen how difficult it is for young players to get a chance so doing ok in a couple of friendlies and league cup games against teams like Elgin isn’t going to convince a manager to keep them in the team. They really need to show that they are well above that level and I can’t remember Mackie doing that. He had a brilliant opportunity last year with Stevenson our at the start and he didn’t take it IMO.

[Ozyhibby]

We signed Martin Boyle from Dundee when he couldn't get a look in iirc.

He was 22 with 124 senior games under his belt and about 30 goals.


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[hibbysam]

We’ve seen how difficult it is for young players to get a chance so doing ok in a couple of friendlies and league cup games against teams like Elgin isn’t going to convince a manager to keep them in the team. They really need to show that they are well above that level and I can’t remember Mackie doing that. He had a brilliant opportunity last year with Stevenson our at the start and he didn’t take it IMO.

You also aren’t going to get 4/5 solid games of brilliance in what are essentially pre season games. And that goes for our older pro’s as well. He was basically the fall guy for our horrendous showing at Ibrox, to save PH’s skin. I’m under no doubt that his delivery from the left, along with his pace would be a quality asset for us, one we haven’t had from the left hand side for a while. I don’t think he’s an out and out left back as his qualities are going forward. Huge season for a few of our younger players but there should be plenty opportunities for them given the situation.

[hibbysam]

He was 22 with 124 senior games under his belt and about 30 goals.


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I’d turn that around, we were in the championship and Dundee were in the premiership (I think), did Boyle stand out at hibs (tear it up) enough to show us he was a top premiership player? No, we took a punt on his raw ability in the hope we could mould him into a better player.

[Since452]

He was 22 with 124 senior games under his belt and about 30 goals.


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Dundee should have retired his shirt number

[B.H.F.C]

You also aren’t going to get 4/5 solid games of brilliance in what are essentially pre season games. And that goes for our older pro’s as well. He was basically the fall guy for our horrendous showing at Ibrox, to save PH’s skin. I’m under no doubt that his delivery from the left, along with his pace would be a quality asset for us, one we haven’t had from the left hand side for a while. I don’t think he’s an out and out left back as his qualities are going forward. Huge season for a few of our younger players but there should be plenty opportunities for them given the situation.

If you can’t be brilliant against Elgin and Arbroath, when will you be. And I don’t think the Dundee fans had a great opinion of him either.

I get that you can’t be 10/10 every game but when chances are so hard to come by young players really need to push themselves forward and I don’t think he did that when the chance was there. And I speak as someone who thinks that position needs filled as a bit of a priority.

[hibbysam]

If you can’t be brilliant against Elgin and Arbroath, when will you be. And I don’t think the Dundee fans had a great opinion of him either.

I get that you can’t be 10/10 every game but when chances are so hard to come by young players really need to push themselves forward and I don’t think he did that when the chance was there. And I speak as someone who thinks that position needs filled as a bit of a priority.

He only played 4 games, one of those was the disaster at ibrox. I thought he was totally fine in the other games that he played against st mirren, Arbroath and Elgin. All clean sheets, all very steady, and probably would show up even better in these games played further forward.

Ps I’d rather listen to their managers views on him rather than their fans, McPake spoke really highly of him.

[eastmainsmsh]

You also aren’t going to get 4/5 solid games of brilliance in what are essentially pre season games. And that goes for our older pro’s as well. He was basically the fall guy for our horrendous showing at Ibrox, to save PH’s skin. I’m under no doubt that his delivery from the left, along with his pace would be a quality asset for us, one we haven’t had from the left hand side for a while. I don’t think he’s an out and out left back as his qualities are going forward. Huge season for a few of our younger players but there should be plenty opportunities for them given the situation.

Spot on

[bigwheel]

You also aren’t going to get 4/5 solid games of brilliance in what are essentially pre season games. And that goes for our older pro’s as well. He was basically the fall guy for our horrendous showing at Ibrox, to save PH’s skin. I’m under no doubt that his delivery from the left, along with his pace would be a quality asset for us, one we haven’t had from the left hand side for a while. I don’t think he’s an out and out left back as his qualities are going forward. Huge season for a few of our younger players but there should be plenty opportunities for them given the situation.

I hope you’re right, but other than the wand of a left foot, I’ve seen nothing from Mackie to suggest he will be a regular for us. His performance against Celtic away last season ranks alongside Tom James first half at Well as the poorest displays I’ve seen from first team players for years..

He’s still developing though, so as you say a big year for these guys. If they don’t break through this season, they never will...


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[Callum_62]

Flos flown back to Switzerland

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[GloryGlory]

Flos flown back to Switzerland

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Signing for St Gallen?

[AlbertK86]

He only played 4 games, one of those was the disaster at ibrox. I thought he was totally fine in the other games that he played against st mirren, Arbroath and Elgin. All clean sheets, all very steady, and probably would show up even better in these games played further forward.

Ps I’d rather listen to their managers views on him rather than their fans, McPake spoke really highly of him.

The disaster at Ibrox became a disaster after he was sent off. Thought he was doing ok in the game prior to that but he won’t be first or last to make the handball mistake. Far more experienced players have made bigger howlers than Mackie’s handball.
Dunno if Mackie is good enough as hasn’t had a proper chance. Did show potential and think he could be an asset if his confidence could be rebuilt.


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[Since452]

Signing for St Gallen?

Away to spend some time with his family as Ross told him he's not in plans for Aberdeen friendly

[Unseen work]

Mackie done really well when he first came into the side imo and got a couple of good assists against Celtic and Rangers. Technically he looked good, was athletic and had a bit about him.

Pre season and the start of the season his confidence looked a bit low however - something Lennon touched on previously and said he needs to work on as his head goes down very easily as soon as he makes a mistake.

Going out on loan to Dundee will have done him good and I’m more than willing for us to give him a chance.

Plenty players have not excelled for their loan club and returned better, sometimes it’s the kick that they need to return and make it work.

In the limited appearances he’s made Iv seen enough to give me some hope for him.

[SMAXXA]

Mackie is also another good example of a player that’s not quite at the level to be playing for Hibs. It should be difficult for anyone to get into a Hibs team and we need much better than him.

It is great when we can promote youth but they have to be good enough. We do make a lot of excuses for them as if they are entitled to play more games.

But isn’t this the point you’ve made a judgment of a player who’s not even had a dozen starts and he’s seen as not at the level we need. In going to defer to across the road with Hickey, he’s had some really good games but he’s also had some right shockers and been ripped apart, he stayed in the team for the most part and was allowed to play through it. In the league we play in there are more than enough winnable games to allow these lads to get a sustained run in the team, if they are deemed not good enough after a handful of games what does that say about the 10 years we will have ‘wasted’ in their development, the model for me is clearly flawed.

Btw changing manager as frequently as we have also doesn’t help and is a factor in this development journey.

Anyone reading my posts I hope would say I’m not negative towards the club quite the opposite but that’s not to say I don’t think there are failures and areas I don’t feel we are doing well enough in. Hibs model is hugely reliant on developing young players and moving them on for big money, Porteous will be in that mould I hope.

[GloryGlory]

Away to spend some time with his family as Ross told him he's not in plans for Aberdeen friendly

Hopefully can kill two birds with one stone and his agent alerts St Gallen that he is in Switzerland.

[The 90+2]

Any deal from Celtic for Boyle, I would be asking for Dembele on loan. The boy looks class.

Signed for Lyon a couple of years ago mate 👌

[Andy74]

But isn’t this the point you’ve made a judgment of a player who’s not even had a dozen starts and he’s seen as not at the level we need. In going to defer to across the road with Hickey, he’s had some really good games but he’s also had some right shockers and been ripped apart, he stayed in the team for the most part and was allowed to play through it. In the league we play in there are more than enough winnable games to allow these lads to get a sustained run in the team, if they are deemed not good enough after a handful of games what does that say about the 10 years we will have ‘wasted’ in their development, the model for me is clearly flawed.

Btw changing manager as frequently as we have also doesn’t help and is a factor in this development journey.

Anyone reading my posts I hope would say I’m not negative towards the club quite the opposite but that’s not to say I don’t think there are failures and areas I don’t feel we are doing well enough in. Hibs model is hugely reliant on developing young players and moving them on for big money, Porteous will be in that mould I hope.

We are Hibs and you don’t just hand out first team places hoping players will eventually play their way into it.

It’s tough but we are meant to be a top 3 or 4 team and any players, young or brought in, should be of a certain standard.

The lack of chances does keep getting brought up for these guys but they also have to earn those chances in training, development or loan games.

Someone that did little more than okay for Dundee doesn’t strike me as a starter for Hibs. The comparison with Hickey stops at them being youngish left backs. Mackie is certainly not being talked about as moving to any bigger clubs than Hibs.

I get people want young players to do well but we make too many excuses for players that prove not to be good enough. No shame in that, we are supposed to be at the top level in this country and not every young player we have will reach that level.

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Manchester City winger Luke Bolton to join Dundee Utd on loan

[SMAXXA]

We are Hibs and you don’t just hand out first team places hoping players will eventually play their way into it.

It’s tough but we are meant to be a top 3 or 4 team and any players, young or brought in, should be of a certain standard.

The lack of chances does keep getting brought up for these guys but they also have to earn those chances in training, development or loan games.

Someone that did little more than okay for Dundee doesn’t strike me as a starter for Hibs. The comparison with Hickey stops at them being youngish left backs. Mackie is certainly not being talked about as moving to any bigger clubs than Hibs.

I get people want young players to do well but we make too many excuses for players that prove not to be good enough. No shame in that, we are supposed to be at the top level in this country and not every young player we have will reach that level.

But how can you make the assessment he’s not good enough when he’s not had a lot of games and when he had played he did fine. To be clear I’m not saying he will be or will not be good enough it’s the principle that players don’t get enough sustained periods to prove themselves as so, I’ve said Porteous has had that sustained period and he’s thrived through it but equally made mistakes.

I agree that players have to be of a certain standard so if they are not what have we been doing developing them?

[JimBHibees]

But how can you make the assessment he’s not good enough when he’s not had a lot of games and when he had played he did fine. To be clear I’m not saying he will be or will not be good enough it’s the principle that players don’t get enough sustained periods to prove themselves as so, I’ve said Porteous has had that sustained period and he’s thrived through it but equally made mistakes.

I agree that players have to be of a certain standard so if they are not what have we been doing developing them?

He has been at the club for a number of years so up to him to get his way into the team.

[04Sauzee]

RANGERS have agreed a deal to sign Nigeria international defender Leon Balogun.

SunSport can reveal the 32 year-old centre-back will sign a two-year contract to move to Ibrox.

Gers have been searching for a new stopper with Nikola Katic out injured and facing months on the sidelines.

Balogun is a free agent after his contract with Brighton expired at the end of the season.

[hibbysam]

He has been at the club for a number of years so up to him to get his way into the team.

He was in the team. He made one mistake and got farmed out on loan for it. He made a number of appearances the previous season and was totally fine, comfortable, and contributed greatly. Heckingbottom butchered him to save his own back. Thankfully Ross and the rest of the staff speak far higher of him and are looking forward to getting him back fit.

[SMAXXA]

He has been at the club for a number of years so up to him to get his way into the team.

Getting into the team is one thing (which he done) having the courage to keep a young lad in despite a mistake or 2 is another. lets face it he wasn’t doing much if any worse that the alternative which was Stevenson.

Anyway veered of topic apologies it’s a transfer thread

[B.H.F.C]

He was in the team. He made one mistake and got farmed out on loan for it. He made a number of appearances the previous season and was totally fine, comfortable, and contributed greatly. Heckingbottom butchered him to save his own back. Thankfully Ross and the rest of the staff speak far higher of him and are looking forward to getting him back fit.

Where does the whole idea that PH hung Mackie out to dry To protect himself come from? I doubt anybody formed their opinion on PH on the basis that he loaned a young player out.

Is it not just the case that he looked at him in pre season and just didn’t think he was good enough and thought he’d benefit from a loan? The Rangers game just compounded that. Remember, the league opener the week before, against St Mirren, saw Whittaker play LB in front of him.

[bigwheel]

He was in the team. He made one mistake and got farmed out on loan for it. He made a number of appearances the previous season and was totally fine, comfortable, and contributed greatly. Heckingbottom butchered him to save his own back. Thankfully Ross and the rest of the staff speak far higher of him and are looking forward to getting him back fit.


I think you are taking such a leap with this view. Did any of our fans say at the time...well done Hecky, getting rid of Mackie to Dundee has given you more time in role.. not a chance. There was no "skin saving" by loaning Mackie out. He simply didn't fancy him as ready for first team action. I agree.

By the way, he didn't exactly set the heather alight at Dundee before his injury either. Very mixed view of him up there. Big season for him. Needs to win a first team place to keep himself here.

[Andy74]

But how can you make the assessment he’s not good enough when he’s not had a lot of games and when he had played he did fine. To be clear I’m not saying he will be or will not be good enough it’s the principle that players don’t get enough sustained periods to prove themselves as so, I’ve said Porteous has had that sustained period and he’s thrived through it but equally made mistakes.

I agree that players have to be of a certain standard so if they are not what have we been doing developing them?

He was also just ‘fine’ at Dundee. If he was better than fine he’d be playing.

[hibbysam]

Where does the whole idea that PH hung Mackie out to dry To protect himself come from? I doubt anybody formed their opinion on PH on the basis that he loaned a young player out.

Is it not just the case that he looked at him in pre season and just didn’t think he was good enough and thought he’d benefit from a loan? The Rangers game just compounded that. Remember, the league opener the week before, against St Mirren, saw Whittaker play LB in front of him.

Sean played half the game the week before against st mirren and was totally fine. He did hang him out to dry, he refused to play him again after that mistake and binned him out on loan thereafter. If he looked at him in those pre season games, then watched Stevenson when he came back far too early, and decided that he should still go out on loan then that tells us what we already knew about PH.

The rangers game never compounded anything, it was a mistake, which many of our team made numerous amounts of. Those are the moments you need to stick by your young players, not totally decimate their confidence. The games he played in 18/19, the pre season and 45 minutes against St mirren, Sean was totally fine, solid enough and holding his own. Won’t be the first, nor the last, to have a shocker at ibrox, which is where man managers come in.

[hibbysam]

I think you are taking such a leap with this view. Did any of our fans say at the time...well done Hecky, getting rid of Mackie to Dundee has given you more time in role.. not a chance. There was no "skin saving" by loaning Mackie out. He simply didn't fancy him as ready for first team action. I agree.

By the way, he didn't exactly set the heather alight at Dundee before his injury either. Very mixed view of him up there. Big season for him. Needs to win a first team place to keep himself here.

I’m not saying fans agreed with that view, but I’ve no doubt that he blamed the rangers defeat solely on Mackie’s red card and not on his car crash tactics and team selections.

McPake couldn’t speak highly enough of him, that’s the view I’ll take from his time at Dundee, not fans who were completely pissed off at their rivals running away with the league and looking for scapegoats.

[hibbysam]

He was also just ‘fine’ at Dundee. If he was better than fine he’d be playing.

If he was better than fine he’d still be out injured right now and still wouldn’t be playing. I’ve no doubt when he’s fully fit he will find himself back in our match day squads, with a manager with an understanding and intelligence around our young players.

[bingo70]

I don’t think Mackie is anywhere near good enough for where we want to get to and I don’t think it takes a dozen games to make that judgement.

From what I’ve seen of him he doesn’t have the burst of pace or acceleration for that position, I don’t think he looked like he had great energy levels either but I’m sure people will tell me different from the under 23 Games. Did seem to have a good left foot but that’ll only get you so far.

[B.H.F.C]

Sean played half the game the week before against st mirren and was totally fine. He did hang him out to dry, he refused to play him again after that mistake and binned him out on loan thereafter. If he looked at him in those pre season games, then watched Stevenson when he came back far too early, and decided that he should still go out on loan then that tells us what we already knew about PH.

The rangers game never compounded anything, it was a mistake, which many of our team made numerous amounts of. Those are the moments you need to stick by your young players, not totally decimate their confidence. The games he played in 18/19, the pre season and 45 minutes against St mirren, Sean was totally fine, solid enough and holding his own. Won’t be the first, nor the last, to have a shocker at ibrox, which is where man managers come in.

So forget Ibrox for a second. PH didn’t deem him good enough the week before that to start, against St Mirren, despite being the only natural left back available. He then started him at Ibrox because he had to due to injuries.

I thought he was poor in the friendlies I saw (Carlisle and Newcastle) although the latter is a higher level of opposition I accept. Ok in the league cup games but nothing more. I thought he missed a big chance to establish himself which I wanted him to do because I think it’s a position that needs improved.

I don’t think PH based his opinion entirely on The Rangers game and I certainly don’t think he loaned him out to try and take the heat of him or anything like that.

[B.H.F.C]

I’m not saying fans agreed with that view, but I’ve no doubt that he blamed the rangers defeat solely on Mackie’s red card and not on his car crash tactics and team selections.

McPake couldn’t speak highly enough of him, that’s the view I’ll take from his time at Dundee, not fans who were completely pissed off at their rivals running away with the league and looking for scapegoats.

So, basically, you’ll accept the view of a manager if it fits with your own?

[bigwheel]

I’m not saying fans agreed with that view, but I’ve no doubt that he blamed the rangers defeat solely on Mackie’s red card and not on his car crash tactics and team selections.

McPake couldn’t speak highly enough of him, that’s the view I’ll take from his time at Dundee, not fans who were completely pissed off at their rivals running away with the league and looking for scapegoats.

I have no doubt that he had no such view on the Rangers game . For all his faults, Hecky is a detailed technical thinker on the game of football. His analysis will have been multi dimensional not such as you suggest.

[Inconsequential]

We also easily beat the worst team in the league on their patch and beat Aberdeen comfortably at Easter Road, and were in 6th position looking forward to our next match when the league was called.

We were literally sixth, it took an alternative (and reasonable) points calculation to take St Johnstone into 6th - a position they’d not held at any point in the season, and we moved to seventh by a fraction of a point.

Picking out two results is a nonsense way of looking at it.

As ridiculous as building a stand with a stairway to a breeze block wall and forgetting to order seats for it. So what I think is nonsense it's what you think that counts. Hibs blew it big style at home to Hearts, bottled it. Then threw away a match at Aberdeen. At that time these six points would have had the team in a great position to secure a top six spot. Hibs ended in 7th place. This is MY thoughts if you don't accept it let it go. Thank you. GGTTH.

[Souter96Mac]

Danny Graham leaving Blackburn..seems like he's
been linked to join us every year 😂

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Danny Graham leaving Blackburn..seems like he's
been linked to join us every year 😂

Surely that was just one guy thinking he'd be a decent signing? Don't think it's actually a rumour unless there is something else out there u havent seen

[Souter96Mac]

Surely that was just one guy thinking he'd be a decent signing? Don't think it's actually a rumour unless there is something else out there u havent seen

I could be wrong but thought I had seen posts on here previously, but could well be like you say!

I'm guessing there might be more Championship clubs announcing some more departures over the coming days/weeks, could be some interesting players available?

[JimBHibees]

He was in the team. He made one mistake and got farmed out on loan for it. He made a number of appearances the previous season and was totally fine, comfortable, and contributed greatly. Heckingbottom butchered him to save his own back. Thankfully Ross and the rest of the staff speak far higher of him and are looking forward to getting him back fit.

He made one mistake got suspended then lost his place. Sean is a decent player but defensively imo not the best. Again up to him to win his place back now he is fit again.

[jacomo]

So forget Ibrox for a second. PH didn’t deem him good enough the week before that to start, against St Mirren, despite being the only natural left back available. He then started him at Ibrox because he had to due to injuries.

I thought he was poor in the friendlies I saw (Carlisle and Newcastle) although the latter is a higher level of opposition I accept. Ok in the league cup games but nothing more. I thought he missed a big chance to establish himself which I wanted him to do because I think it’s a position that needs improved.

I don’t think PH based his opinion entirely on The Rangers game and I certainly don’t think he loaned him out to try and take the heat of him or anything like that.


I didn’t rate PH at all. I’m disinclined to trust his judgement, especially as he hung Mackie out to dry after one mistake.

[B.H.F.C]

I didn’t rate PH at all. I’m disinclined to trust his judgement, especially as he hung Mackie out to dry after one mistake.

I don’t rate PH either but I’m still not sure how he hung Mackie out to dry.

He loaned him out but what’s to suggest he wasn’t thinking about that before Ibrox, considering he only played there due to our injury situation having been left out the week before when he was the only natural left back available.

I think it’s too easy, where young players are concerned, to blame others. He had a brilliant opportunity at the start of last season and didn’t take it IMO.

[MWHIBBIES]

I didn’t rate PH at all. I’m disinclined to trust his judgement, especially as he hung Mackie out to dry after one mistake.

He didn't. A young player went on loan because a much better, more experienced one was fit again in the same position. Simple as that.

We also had 2 other better, more experienced players who could fit that position if needed (Whittaker and Hanlon)

[The 90+2]

Livi reject £1m for Dykes from Barnsley.

[jacomo]

He didn't. A young player went on loan because a much better, more experienced one was fit again in the same position. Simple as that.

We also had 2 other better, more experienced players who could fit that position if needed (Whittaker and Hanlon)


Really? Whittaker didn’t want to play full back and Hanlon hasn’t played there for years. Last sept we had one left back and at least 3 right backs. It was a joke.

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Really? Whittaker didn’t want to play full back and Hanlon hasn’t played there for years. Last sept we had one left back and at least 3 right backs. It was a joke.

Would agree. It’s also how Newell ended up there a couple of times instead of the other two.

[B.H.F.C]

Would agree. It’s also how Newell ended up there a couple of times instead of the other two.

Newell played left wing back under Ross and was very good. Can’t remember him playing as a left back under either him or PH though.

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By Jamie Borthwick
24 Jul 2020 5:05 pm

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Livingston have rejected a seven figure bid for striker Lyndon Dykes from English Championship side Barnsley.

The West Lothian outfit received an offer of £1m for the 24-year-old from the Yorkshire club on Friday.

Livingston are holding out for around £2m for the forward, who has been tipped to break into international football with either Scotland or his native Australia.

[The 90+2]

Newell played left wing back under Ross and was very good. Can’t remember him playing as a left back under either him or PH though.

Left wing back/ Left Back - potato/potato :greengrin

[MWHIBBIES]

Really? Whittaker didn’t want to play full back and Hanlon hasn’t played there for years. Last sept we had one left back and at least 3 right backs. It was a joke.

I'd certainly have trusted Whittaker ahead of Mackie. Also, Lewis played just about every game from there on out so it really didn't matter much, Mackie benefitted much more from a loan than 1 or 2 games for Hibs.

[Tambo]

Livingston have rejected a substantial bid from an English Championship club for striker Lyndon Dykes.

The offer,*reported to be*from Barnsley and worth £1m, was not enough to allow the Australian striker to talk to the South Yorkshire club.

[Hibs90]

If Dykes is valued at more than 1m we should be looking for no less than about 50 million for Doidge

[bigwheel]

Livingston have rejected a substantial bid from an English Championship club for striker Lyndon Dykes.

The offer,*reported to be*from Barnsley and worth £1m, was not enough to allow the Australian striker to talk to the South Yorkshire club.

Good on them. They seem to have got their act together off and on the pitch ....

[Hibee Mac]

Is it just me that thinks Dykes is p*sh?

His name seems to get mentioned by pundits and the like a disproportionate amount. If he's worth a £1m championship move then we should be expecting way more than £150k for Kamberi, even given his current situation.

[SHODAN]

So glad we've got our first choice strikers settled early. The market for them in particular is ****ing ridiculous.

[Souter96Mac]

Is it just me that thinks Dykes is p*sh?

His name seems to get mentioned by pundits and the like a disproportionate amount. If he's worth a £1m championship move then we should be expecting way more than £150k for Kamberi, even given his current situation.

I'll be honest, I've not seen him play too many times, but a quick check of his stats for last season. In 25 games he scored 9 and assisted 8 in the league. Not bad for his first season in the premiership.

[Hibee Mac]

I'll be honest, I've not seen him play too many times, but a quick check of his stats for last season. In 25 games he scored 9 and assisted 8 in the league. Not bad for his first season in the premiership.That's about what I thought he'd scored but didn't realise his assists were that high too. Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on him but I'd still be disappointed if we were being linked with him, never been impressed when seeing him play.

[bigwheel]

That's about what I thought he'd scored but didn't realise his assists were that high too. Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on him but I'd still be disappointed if we were being linked with him, never been impressed when seeing him play.

Honestly, I think he has looked a real handful any game I’ve watched him in ..

[04Sauzee]

I'll be honest, I've not seen him play too many times, but a quick check of his stats for last season. In 25 games he scored 9 and assisted 8 in the league. Not bad for his first season in the premiership.

League games only Doidge 186 mins per goal and Dykes 243 mins per goal. Wonder what Doidge would be worth

[bigwheel]

League games only Doidge 186 mins per goal and Dykes 243 mins per goal. Wonder what Doidge would be worth

Not a lot..all he does is score goals [emoji6]


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[The 90+2]

Is it just me that thinks Dykes is p*sh?

His name seems to get mentioned by pundits and the like a disproportionate amount. If he's worth a £1m championship move then we should be expecting way more than £150k for Kamberi, even given his current situation.

He’s had a fantastic season and still young. The type we should have went for last season and have In Nesbit.

[Speedway]

Anyone know who footy.com are?

Just posted on LinkedIn that they’ve signed a deal with us but nothing on the fishy about it.

Not transfer news but closer than the last couple of pages at least.

[The 90+2]

Not a lot..all he does is score goals [emoji6]


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Doidge the Polis (new nickname as I can’t be arsed with abuse from the harmful vegan Nish now Nishys left) is an extremely underrated footballer. He’s actually like James Collins with a football brain and a first touch. 😀

[Bostonhibby]

Not a lot..all he does is score goals [emoji6]


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[Leitherhibs]

Tap-in Tommy as the poppy thieves call him.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Tap-in Tommy as the poppy thieves call him.

And Nisbet is fat

Deluded Jambo twits

[Greenbeard]

And Nisbet is fat

Deluded Jambo twits
If he is fat he is in good company. Baxter, Harper, Ritchie, Boyd all performed with a bit of a belly, each of whom would be welcome additions on their best belly form. Who else?

[Michael]

If he is fat he is in good company. Baxter, Harper, Ritchie, Boyd all performed with a bit of a belly, each of whom would be welcome additions on their best belly form. Who else?

Logan produced the greatest goalkeeping performance of all time.

[Sheep_Nae_Mair]

Signed for Lyon a couple of years ago mate 👌

No he didn't.

[Keyser Sauzee]

No he didn't.

Seems to be a mix up with the Dembele’s, Moussa signed for Lyon a couple seasons back, Karamoko is still with Celtic

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

Ravel Morrison! Class but seems to have lost his way. Can we get the guy on loan maybe? He would be the difference of a top 3 finish!

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[Keyser Sauzee]

Ravel Morrison! Class but seems to have lost his way. Can we get the guy on loan maybe? He would be the difference of a top 3 finish!

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The epitome of a player who genuinely doesn’t give a toss about football it seems. Would be far more hassle than it’s worth. Well outwith our price so it’s a non starter anyway.

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

I would disagree. The lad leaves his area and falls back in love with the game. And we get a great player

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[Ozyhibby]

Ravel Morrison! Class but seems to have lost his way. Can we get the guy on loan maybe? He would be the difference of a top 3 finish!

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27 year old and only 100 senior games? Class?


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[Tha Cabbage Kid]

Ever seen the guy play??

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[jacomo]

Ever seen the guy play??

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Just no.

[Ozyhibby]

Ever seen the guy play??

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All the managers who have signed him barely get to see him play.[emoji23]


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[JimBHibees]

Ravel Morrison! Class but seems to have lost his way. Can we get the guy on loan maybe? He would be the difference of a top 3 finish!

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Don't think he has ever found his way.

[nellio]

Played a few games for Cardiff a few years ago. Horrenndous. Hardly played and didn't seem to care.

[SMAXXA]

Scored 9 goals in 10 years and had a raft of clubs according to Wikipedia 🤦🏻*♂️

[Smartie]

Is he not often held up there as “the most talented Man United youth player ever” but for many reasons has never fulfilled his early potential?

[MWHIBBIES]

Is he not often held up there as “the most talented Man United youth player ever” but for many reasons has never fulfilled his early potential?

He is but it's clearly absolute nonsense. Technically he was maybe that good but mental attributes are just as if not more important and he was clearly well lacking in that area. Not a patch on guys like Giggs, Beckham, scholes, Pogba, rashford who have came through at United.

[Tambo]

Seems to be a mix up with the Dembele’s, Moussa signed for Lyon a couple seasons back, Karamoko is still with Celtic

Don't think he featured much last season after the last game of the season before, I'm sure he ripped hearts apart which resulted in hearts players hacking a wee 16 year old boy down at every attempt.

[Billy Whizz]

Don't think he featured much last season after the last game of the season before, I'm sure he ripped hearts apart which resulted in hearts players hacking a wee 16 year old boy down at every attempt.

He played against Hibs reserves in the last game pre lockdown
Had a good battle with Scholesey, and probably came out on top at the end, but he had a lot of experienced players around him
He’s still very small though

[HendoDelivered]

Is he not often held up there as “the most talented Man United youth player ever” but for many reasons has never fulfilled his early potential?

Yup, according to SAF.

[DC_Hibs]

Not a patch on guys like Giggs, Beckham, scholes, Pogba, rashford who have came through at United.

Aye obviously. You’d have been bette me comparing him to the Sheffield United players - some of whom were previously league one level - as he’s not a patch on them either.

I’m amazed decent managers still give him a chance and so reliant on hope that he will come good.

Think the suggestion came from someone who had too much fizzy pop playing football manager.

[J-C]

Don't think he has ever found his way.


Fergie sussed him out at Man U and let him run his contract down, said he had incredible talent and could be better than Giggs but being late for training and getting into trouble off field put paid to his career there and Fergie gave up on him.

[Unseen work]

Docherty not in the Rangers squad again for their friendly today.

Chances of us announcing him early Monday morning and giving him 60 minutes vs Celtic at night:greengrin

[brog]

Fergie sussed him out at Man U and let him run his contract down, said he had incredible talent and could be better than Giggs but being late for training and getting into trouble off field put paid to his career there and Fergie gave up on him.

I went to see Palace Brum a few seasons back. He and Nathan Redmond ripped Palace up as they won 4 0. A great wasted talent.

[04Sauzee]

Tam McManus on Twitter

Have it on good authority that Steven Fletcher is very keen on a move to Celtic. Just moved back up here and bought a place in Glasgow. 33 but great pro/fit as a fiddle. Available on a free. Wages wouldn’t be an issue. Surely would do job at Parkhead even as cover for Edouard?

[B.H.F.C]

Tam McManus on Twitter

Have it on good authority that Steven Fletcher is very keen on a move to Celtic. Just moved back up here and bought a place in Glasgow. 33 but great pro/fit as a fiddle. Available on a free. Wages wouldn’t be an issue. Surely would do job at Parkhead even as cover for Edouard?

Would be a decent signing for them to provide backup to Edouard. If that happened, Griffiths is finished there.

[04Sauzee]

Would be a decent signing for them to provide backup to Edouard. If that happened, Griffiths is finished there.

Thought he'd have been a perfect fit for Rangers especially with them desperate for a forward

[Billy Whizz]

Tam McManus on Twitter

Have it on good authority that Steven Fletcher is very keen on a move to Celtic. Just moved back up here and bought a place in Glasgow. 33 but great pro/fit as a fiddle. Available on a free. Wages wouldn’t be an issue. Surely would do job at Parkhead even as cover for Edouard?

Boooooo

[Since452]

Is he not often held up there as “the most talented Man United youth player ever” but for many reasons has never fulfilled his early potential?

Sure it was Gary Neville I heard talking about him recently. Said he was just unbelievable in training

[Dmas]

Tam McManus on Twitter

Have it on good authority that Steven Fletcher is very keen on a move to Celtic. Just moved back up here and bought a place in Glasgow. 33 but great pro/fit as a fiddle. Available on a free. Wages wouldn’t be an issue. Surely would do job at Parkhead even as cover for Edouard?

Sounds to me like someone touting his pal, they’ve got loads of strikers, spent £3m on that polish guy surely they won’t push him down the pecking order

I’d love it if he came back to us tho! Player/coach help out Gullan and Nesbitt

[bingo70]

Tam McManus on Twitter

Have it on good authority that Steven Fletcher is very keen on a move to Celtic. Just moved back up here and bought a place in Glasgow. 33 but great pro/fit as a fiddle. Available on a free. Wages wouldn’t be an issue. Surely would do job at Parkhead even as cover for Edouard?

If Celtic don’t want him (every chance) I wonder what his plan B is if he’s just moved up here?

[3pm]

If Celtic don’t want him (every chance) I wonder what his plan B is if he’s just moved up here?

Wages not a problem until it's £1500 a week. 😁

[The 90+2]

No he didn't.

Yeah I was only kidding, sorry.

[Clarence]

Docherty not in the Rangers squad again for their friendly today.

Chances of us announcing him early Monday morning and giving him 60 minutes vs Celtic at night:greengrin

I reckon there has been discussions about him coming here and we’re in a fairly strong bargaining position as we don’t really need him and it’s obvs that Rangers don’t want him. Don’t know if there is much interest from other clubs. I think we might be waiting on Celtic making us an offer we can’t refuse for Boyle and we will bring Docherty in if that goes through. Otherwise we’ll probably not be going overboard to recruit him.

[Dunbar Hibee]

My mate seen Steven Fletcher driving down Easter Road yesterday. Make of that what you will.

[theonlywayisup]

Is he not often held up there as “the most talented Man United youth player ever” but for many reasons has never fulfilled his early potential?

Apologies, but I'm not sure who you are talking about from the posts before. Is it Ravel Morrison?

[theonlywayisup]

Signed for Lyon a couple of years ago mate 👌

Thinks he means Karamoko Dembele and not Moussa Dembele.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moussa_Demb%c3%a9l%c3%a9_(French_footballer)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karamoko_Demb%C3%A9l%C3%A9

[RUSSELL LATAPY]

If celtic get another sticker and villa sell mcginn hibs should just ask celtic how much they are wanting for griff

[CraigHibee]

My mate seen Steven Fletcher driving down Easter Road yesterday. Make of that what you will.

He was in greggs

[CMurdoch]

If celtic get another sticker and villa sell mcginn hibs should just ask celtic how much they are wanting for griff

No thanks, no matter how many stickers they get.

P.S. Your 11th post in 9 years wasn't worth the wait.

[MWHIBBIES]

If celtic get another sticker and villa sell mcginn hibs should just ask celtic how much they are wanting for griff
As if Celtic are the problem there. Its his mental wages. He earns so much money he kisses their badge.

[Iggy Pope]

No thanks, no matter how many stickers they get.

P.S. Your 11th post in 9 years wasn't worth the wait.

Those collectors things are going through the ****ing roof now! I’m hanging on to mine for now and this just proves what a good idea that is.

[CMurdoch]

Those collectors things are going through the ****ing roof now! I’m hanging on to mine for now and this just proves what a good idea that is.

That was the boys 1st post here in 5 years.
He has been building up to it all this time, then when the moment came, he shat it and mis-spelled striker before running back to kickback. Spies used to take a bit of pride in their work. Now it's aw hash bash!

[Iggy Pope]

That was the boys 1st post here in 5 years.
He has been building up to it all this time, then when the moment came he shat it and mis-spelled striker before running back to kickback. Spies used to take a bit of pride in their work. Now it's aw hash bash!

Ah *****. I was hoping Paninis were the new Maroon pound.

[RUSSELL LATAPY]

No thanks, no matter how many stickers they get.

P.S. Your 11th post in 9 years wasn't worth the wait.

Wow thanks mate your so welcoming

[CMurdoch]

Wow thanks mate your so welcoming

You got your welcome in 2011.

Already looking forward to you sharing your next, one line, insightful post in 2025.

[Northernhibee]

Ah *****. I was hoping Paninis were the new Maroon pound.

Toasties for tossers, innit.

[NthCarolinaHibs]

Deary me...no need eh...

[Jones28]

You got your welcome in 2011.

Already looking forward to you sharing your next, one line, insightful post in 2025.

Leave it out ffs, the lambasting of new/occasional posters is piss poor. The poster hardly suggested something outrageous.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Leave it out ffs, the lambasting of new/occasional posters is piss poor. The poster hardly suggested something outrageous.

he did suggest an outrageous act in his now deleted post though

:hilarious

[Jones28]

he did suggest an outrageous act in his now deleted post though

:hilarious

That’s the last time I try to defend anyone

[CMurdoch]

he did suggest an outrageous act in his now deleted post though

:hilarious

****, I missed it!

[cabbageandribs1875]

That’s the last time I try to defend anyone

i was about to do the same...just saw his deleted post in time :) if he was/is a heartz fan he would certainly have been singing along with their 2012 homophobic chant

[cabbageandribs1875]

****, I missed it!


see my post above for a clue :greengrin

[CMurdoch]

see my post above for a clue :greengrin

His creative writing and diversity course is obviously not going too well :rolleyes:

[Northernhibee]

That’s the last time I try to defend anyone

I really do hope you're representing Hearts in arbitration then :greengrin

[04Sauzee]

Celtic trying to get Ivan Toney from Peterborough

[The Modfather]

Celtic trying to get Ivan Toney from Peterborough

I’ve heard his plays are good.

[Springbank]

Await our sectarian chums 44 miles west of civilisation nicknaming him Wolfe Toney or somesuch

[Northernhibee]

Celtic trying to get Ivan Toney from Peterborough

Hard working striker. Not entirely sure he'd be a brilliant signing but would be an OK squad player for them.

[04Sauzee]

Tommie Hoban came on and played as a trialist for Aberdeen today. I'm sure they said they wouldnt pay money on transfers and they were operating a 1 in 1 out policy, wonder if they are considering a move for him

[The 90+2]

Thinks he means Karamoko Dembele and not Moussa Dembele.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moussa_Demb%c3%a9l%c3%a9_(French_footballer)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karamoko_Demb%C3%A9l%C3%A9

Yeah I know was a joke funny in my heid :greengrin

[CMurdoch]

Tommie Hoban came on and played as a trialist for Aberdeen today. I'm sure they said they wouldnt pay money on transfers and they were operating a 1 in 1 out policy, wonder if they are considering a move for him

Did his anterior cruciate ligament at Aberdeen 18 months ago whilst on loan from Watford who released him at the end of that season. Didn't have a team last season. Suspect Aberdeen are trying to do the right thing by him but would surprised if they sign him in the present climate.

[Smartie]

Apologies, but I'm not sure who you are talking about from the posts before. Is it Ravel Morrison?

Yes, Ravel Morrison.

I’ve never seen him play and can’t quite put my finger on where I heard it but I’m sure I associate his name with articles/ opinions from pretty respectable people who rave about his natural ability. His actual career achievements don’t appear to be much though, as he’s bounced around a lot of clubs possibly earning moves off reputation but actually contributing little anywhere he goes.

I lost track of him, surprised he still seems to be getting clubs as big as Middlesbrough. I had him down as a Islam Feruz sort of character, probably lost the game by his mid twenties.

I couldn’t be arsed googling so just made the comment.

[CMurdoch]

Yes, Ravel Morrison.

I’ve never seen him play and can’t quite put my finger on where I heard it but I’m sure I associate his name with articles/ opinions from pretty respectable people who rave about his natural ability. His actual career achievements don’t appear to be much though, as he’s bounced around a lot of clubs possibly earning moves off reputation but actually contributing little anywhere he goes.

I lost track of him, surprised he still seems to be getting clubs as big as Middlesbrough. I had him down as a Islam Feruz sort of character, probably lost the game by his mid twenties.

I couldn’t be arsed googling so just made the comment.

Morrison is a top waster. Can't believe football clubs keep giving him contracts when it is abundantly clear that he cannot function as a responsible adult. Suspect it all comes from his childhood, poor role models etc so can't even do the basics of getting up in the morning and getting himself to training on time. Has now left Sheffield Utd after being chased from his loan spell at Middlesboro. Sure there will be another mug along soon to offer him a new contract. Sadly the kids head is broken.

[badabing67]

Celtic trying to get Ivan Toney from Peterborough

Barry Fry said that they wouldn't sell him for anything less than £15M so can't see them getting him

[badabing67]

Yes, Ravel Morrison.

I’ve never seen him play and can’t quite put my finger on where I heard it but I’m sure I associate his name with articles/ opinions from pretty respectable people who rave about his natural ability. His actual career achievements don’t appear to be much though, as he’s bounced around a lot of clubs possibly earning moves off reputation but actually contributing little anywhere he goes.

I lost track of him, surprised he still seems to be getting clubs as big as Middlesbrough. I had him down as a Islam Feruz sort of character, probably lost the game by his mid twenties.

I couldn’t be arsed googling so just made the comment.


https://youtu.be/qEcRX_AcLag

[The Count]

Await our sectarian chums 44 miles west of civilisation nicknaming him Wolfe Toney or somesuch
Theobold Wolfe Tone was actually from a French protestant family whose family had fled to Ireland because of religious persecution in France.History is complicated.

[TelaStella]

Await our sectarian chums 44 miles west of civilisation nicknaming him Wolfe Toney or somesuch

Crap patter


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[Dmas]

Barry Fry said that they wouldn't sell him for anything less than £15M so can't see them getting him

I read he was going to brentford for £12m last week, if there getting him in I’d imagine Edouard is away this window

[Ozyhibby]

https://youtu.be/qEcRX_AcLag

An English Paddy McCourt. Without McCourt’s commitment.


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[hfc rd]

Morelos offski:

https://mobile.twitter.com/mohamedbouhafsi/status/1287327675237924864

[Brightside]

Morelos offski:

https://mobile.twitter.com/mohamedbouhafsi/status/1287327675237924864

Isn’t that the wrong way round? He agreed terms without the clubs agreeing a move??

[Springbank]

Crap patter


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Agreed

[Billy Whizz]

Isn’t that the wrong way round? He agreed terms without the clubs agreeing a move??

Wonder who they’ll replace him with

[Springbank]

Isn’t that the wrong way round? He agreed terms without the clubs agreeing a move??

Does come across that his agent has been given the freedom to find morelos a club / agree terms, then work out the rangers fee later.

[Onceinawhile]

Isn’t that the wrong way round? He agreed terms without the clubs agreeing a move??

Seems to be happening more and more.

Could be that rangers said to lille - we're not that far apart, crack on and speak to him and we can hash out the rest.

[Billy Whizz]

Seems to be happening more and more.

Could be that rangers said to lille - we're not that far apart, crack on and speak to him and we can hash out the rest.

Are Lille in the champions league?

[Souter96Mac]

Isn’t that the wrong way round? He agreed terms without the clubs agreeing a move??

It seems like this behaviour is starting to become the norm. There was quite an interesting documentary on Amazon Prime about Leeds during the January 2019 transfer window. On the final day they were close to signing Dan James from Swansea, they had him in the building, getting photos with his name on the back of the kit etc. They had agreed his terms, but Swansea weren't cooperating on their side. It obviously ended up with the deal not going ahead. But just goes to show that clubs agreeing terms with players seems to get done first in some cases

[JimBHibees]

Isn’t that the wrong way round? He agreed terms without the clubs agreeing a move??

Sounds like Rangers and player keen to part so he has probably been given leave to get deal sorted while other clubs aware of ball park transfer value. Time will tell I suppose.

[hfc rd]

Mohamed Bouhafsi is as reliable as they come regarding transfers, especially for French clubs. I remember last year he called the Nicolas Pepe deal to Arsenal weeks before the likes of the BBC/Sky confirmed it.

I hope Sevco throw some of that money our way for Kamberi

[SHODAN]

Morelos offski:

https://mobile.twitter.com/mohamedbouhafsi/status/1287327675237924864

That'll be any chance they had at the league gone.

[JimBHibees]

Are Lille in the champions league?


Looks like Europa league 4th

https://www.skysports.com/ligue-1-table

[JimBHibees]

No doubt if Morelos leaves there will be a relatively high profile replacement to appease the hordes especially on eve of potential ten in a row season.

[Heisenberg]

No doubt if Morelos leaves there will be a relatively high profile replacement to appease the hordes especially on eve of potential ten in a row season.

Definitely, a Dykes or Shankland won’t cut it for their fans.

[04Sauzee]

No doubt if Morelos leaves there will be a relatively high profile replacement to appease the hordes especially on eve of potential ten in a row season.

Maybe try and scupper celtic bid for the boy from down south
Can't see Lyndon Dykes and Kamberi being the answer 😅

[JimBHibees]

Definitely, a Dykes or Shankland won’t cut it for their fans.

Absolutely

[JimBHibees]

Maybe try and scupper celtic bid for the boy from down south
Can't see Lyndon Dykes and Kamberi being the answer ��

Wouldn't rule it out to be honest. If that were to happen Lawwell would make sure they had to pay through the news if they did.

[easty]

That'll be any chance they had at the league gone.

Gone from nae chance to nae chance.

[Smartie]

That'll be any chance they had at the league gone.

I’m not sure.

No doubt he’s an excellent player on his day but he’s let them down countless times when it really matters.

I think they’d be better off cutting him loose and finding someone a bit more reliable.

[S4uzee]

If I was a player , I’d probably rather play for Rangers than Lille ....

[HendoDelivered]

If they sell Morelos I reckon they will go for Toney from Posh.

[truehibernian]

No doubt if Morelos leaves there will be a relatively high profile replacement to appease the hordes especially on eve of potential ten in a row season.

I think the Morelos sale will be the excuse SG needs to up sticks down south.........:cb

[Billy Whizz]

If they sell Morelos I reckon they will go for Toney from Posh.

No way rangers will pay £15m for a player

[Greenbeard]

Isn’t that the wrong way round? He agreed terms without the clubs agreeing a move??
More or less goes without saying.

[HendoDelivered]

No way rangers will pay £15m for a player

If they want to seriously challenge Celtic they need to spend. But agree with you, they probably wont. Most likely to go for Dykes and/or Kamberi.

[Tully]

Daniel Sturridge lined up

[Souter96Mac]

Would they go for Sam Cosgrove?

[CallumLaidlaw]

It seems like this behaviour is starting to become the norm. There was quite an interesting documentary on Amazon Prime about Leeds during the January 2019 transfer window. On the final day they were close to signing Dan James from Swansea, they had him in the building, getting photos with his name on the back of the kit etc. They had agreed his terms, but Swansea weren't cooperating on their side. It obviously ended up with the deal not going ahead. But just goes to show that clubs agreeing terms with players seems to get done first in some cases

I get the impression we were maybe similar with Nisbet in January.


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[BILLYHIBS]

Alfredo Morelos agrees personal terms with Lille

Sky Sports

[SMAXXA]

Daniel Sturridge lined up

Disaster written all over it always injured will be another defo overpaid who’s had his best days

[CMurdoch]

That'll be any chance they had at the league gone.

Yeah, Morelos has the X factor.
Rangers can't afford a player with the X factor.
Edouard has the X factor.
Title Celtic

[GlesgaeHibby]

Alfredo Morelos agrees personal terms with Lille

Sky Sports

With Defoe out they'll have to get a move on here. Must be desperate for the money. Can't see the fans being happy at either Cosgrove, Dykes or Kamberi as a replacement - pleasing!

[BlackSheep]

Daniel Sturridge lined up

Is he not currently banned?

[McD]

Yeah I know was a joke funny in my heid :greengrin


to be fair mate, I read it as an updated spin on the showumni brothers joke when you posted it :greengrin

[Springbank]

Is he not currently banned?

Will be an interesting one for UEFA
He was banned for 4 months on 2 March for betting
With football suspended from 13 March here a lot would depend on whether the four months ban ran from 2 March and he got lucky that this coincided with no football OR if he served 11 days in March & still has 3 months to serve?

[Speedway]

We’ve been offered McGeady by his agent.

Source: a different player’s agent,

[Hibs90]

We’ve been offered McGeady by his agent.

Source: a different player’s agent,

No thanks

[Clarence]

We’ve been offered McGeady by his agent.

Source: a different player’s agent,

Would be a good option to bring off the bench but think he’s probably a luxury that we can’t afford. Don’t know what other options he would have though so he might be reasonable about wages.

[HFC93]

We’ve been offered McGeady by his agent.

Source: a different player’s agent,

Makes sense if Boyle is sold I suppose.

[neil7908]

We’ve been offered McGeady by his agent.

Source: a different player’s agent,

He has not been getting a game for Aberdeen? I've have him back but not as a top earner. Can't afford to pay massive wages for a guy that is likely to miss a big chunk of the season in the current climate.

[Speedway]

Follow up message:

‘Great signing if you want your dressing room unsettling’ 😂

Meow!!

[Speedway]

He has not been getting a game for Aberdeen? I've have him back but not as a top earner. Can't afford to pay massive wages for a guy that is likely to miss a big chunk of the season in the current climate.

That’s McGeough, Neil.

[bingo70]

We’ve been offered McGeady by his agent.

Source: a different player’s agent,

I was really keen for us to get him in January as I thought he’d have been an ideal short term signing.

At this time though I’d rather be looking at younger options.

Wonders what would happen if we signed someone who’d been at the championship, they’d basically be coming to us with no pre-season. They’d probably (Understandably) be wanting a few weeks off, they’d then need to do a sort of pre-season to catch up with the rest of the players, there’s an inevitability about that being rushed and hearing excuses for ages that they’d still be getting up to match speed.

I think this summer we need to be sticking to signing players from Scotland or other leagues that finished up and starting again in sync with when ours is.

[04Sauzee]

I was hoping there would have been something in this but I'm guessing nothing is happening with this

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-transfer-clark-portsmouth-peterborough-18378891

[Souter96Mac]

I was hoping there would have been something in this but I'm guessing nothing is happening with this

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-transfer-clark-portsmouth-peterborough-18378891

I'm guessing he was a target if Wright hadn't signed.

[badabing67]

I was hoping there would have been something in this but I'm guessing nothing is happening with this

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-transfer-clark-portsmouth-peterborough-18378891

He might still be a target if Boyler leaves. Hope Boyler stays though

[04Sauzee]

Clyde Superscoreboard tweet regarding Morelos

We understand there are currently no active negotiations between the clubs.

[erin go bragh]

Clyde Superscoreboard tweet regarding Morelos

We understand there are currently no active negotiations between the clubs.
Lille tweeted they had signed him for €20 m . :cbWell I think it was the official Lille .edit . it wasn’t Lille . Some French tweet that had to be translated.

OFFICIAL ��
.
Alfredo Morelos ���� is a new Lille player ���� . The Colombian leaves the Rangers �������������� after 3 seasons ��
.
➡️ The signing will be confirmed in the next few hours and would be around a few € 20,000,000 ��
.

[Speedway]

So the season starts on Saturday and they have an injured Defoe plus ???

[04Sauzee]

So the season starts on Saturday and they have an injured Defoe plus ???

Greg Stewart 👀

[Springbank]

Anyone know how many medals Chris Dagnall has compared to Alfredo Morelos?

[Bobby's Cinema]

Morelos potentially away after Neil McCann’s article the other day that not signing Fraser Forster could hand the title to The Rangers. What would this mean Neil