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Hibee Mac
06-07-2020, 06:25 PM
I'm not sure if he has proven he has bags of ability. He looked decent in a few performances, a game against Dundee springs to mind but other than that I don't think he's showed anything near enough to say he has bags of ability.
mentalhibee
06-07-2020, 06:26 PM
Season ticket sales north of 10k, and an unexpected uplift in HSL donations, and not a squeak about new players beyond the latest rumour about another ex-player possibly returning (Agyepong) who in his first spell was notable for being injury-prone.
Can our recruitment team not do any better than this?
Ron Gordon said in his much-heralded recent interview that "we're still a football club that needs to compete".
Time to back your words up with some action, Ron.
Agree!!!
The 90+2
06-07-2020, 06:27 PM
Get big Tam in for the ****s. Won’t be on anything like a decent wedge.
The 90+2
06-07-2020, 06:28 PM
I'm not sure if he has proven he has bags of ability. He looked decent in a few performances, a game against Dundee springs to mind but other than that I don't think he's showed anything near enough to say he has bags of ability.
I thought he was better than Barker tbh.
Smartie
06-07-2020, 06:37 PM
If he comes in, plays every game, scores 40 goals in the season and scores a hat trick against Hearts in the cup before teabagging Robbie Nielson in front of a jubilant West stand, do I get to dredge this post back up again? :greengrin
The boy clearly has bags of ability but I'd want to know he'd had corrective surgery in the last twelve months to know that his issues with injury aren't going to come back again and again.
Nothing would make me happier. :greengrin
Except maybe if he did all of the above but skipped the teabagging part.
Good player. I just don't think he has what it takes to play enough games to make a meaningful contribution. Sometimes you just get players whose hamstrings can't cope with what the player wants to do, and I think he's one.
I thought he was better than Barker tbh.
Not much of a contest though is it?
Unless he’s on a pay per play deal to negate the risk a little?
Even on a deal like that it we would have to budget for him being fit and so any money 'saved' wouldn't be available for other wages.
Hibs shouldn't be going anywhere near him given the circumstances.
The 90+2
06-07-2020, 06:39 PM
Not much of a contest though is it?
While true Barker was alright when he could be arsed which was hardly ever at all.
Gmack7
06-07-2020, 07:01 PM
With money being in short supply we cannot be signing squad players, I'd be looking for 2 or 3 players to go straight in the 1st 11
CockneyRebel
06-07-2020, 07:03 PM
And just like they we have a rumour!
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-transfer-agyepong-manchester-city-18551394
Sources in Ghana saying we’re back in for Aygepong.
I think he could be really good, very fast and skilful but always seems to be injured.
Further down on that link - Junior Agogo has passed away following a stroke quite some time ago.
CockneyRebel
06-07-2020, 07:06 PM
How long was Agyepong on the treatment table last season?
Seems a strange one and don't really think this story has much legs but at least it's something to debate 😂
Neither does the player, unfortunately. :greengrin
Heisenberg
06-07-2020, 07:26 PM
Journalist that works for the capital city press says there’s nothing in the Agyepong rumour.
04Sauzee
06-07-2020, 07:27 PM
Alan Temple tweets
Day off work, but will dip in briefly to nip a silly one in the bud: absolutely nothing in Thomas Agyepong being linked with a return to Hibs.
04Sauzee
06-07-2020, 07:30 PM
Alan Temple also tweets
Fair to say you can expect Drey Wright to be the first summer signing. Beyond that, Hibs, annoyingly, are decent at keeping their cards reasonably close to their chests. They are still *big* admirers of Nisbet but price is a big factor there.
erin go bragh
06-07-2020, 07:32 PM
I thought he was better than Barker tbh.
Not a chance . Barker did a lot more for us than Thomas did . Not even close imo .
hibs#1
06-07-2020, 08:03 PM
Maybe the manager is fairly confident he can get a better tune out the current compared to Heckingbottom, he definitely improved them in short time he had previous to lock down.
B.H.F.C
06-07-2020, 08:05 PM
Maybe the manager is fairly confident he can get a better tune out the current compared to Heckingbottom, he definitely improved them in short time he had previous to lock down.
Definitely improved us but we were still inconsistent at best. And the squad is weaker than it was then.
H18S NX
06-07-2020, 08:06 PM
I can honestly swear to you,i did not even know we had Agyepong at Hibs,mind you am an auld yin.
Unseen work
06-07-2020, 08:07 PM
I think we will get Nisbet.
Hopefully the others we bring in are of a similar quality.
GreenCastle
06-07-2020, 08:13 PM
Alan Temple tweets
Day off work, but will dip in briefly to nip a silly one in the bud: absolutely nothing in Thomas Agyepong being linked with a return to Hibs.
Agyepong does have one thing we need - speed.
When he played well he was good but he was just injured too often and his last loan he was often injured too.
Fast players often get hamstring injuries and the poor guy has had a few.
He was a good guy - had a class song and could be a decent option if cheap but we need consistent performers.
We need a CDM !!!
Franck Stanton
06-07-2020, 08:15 PM
Given the financial constraints we currently operate under, would be happy with the squad we have with the addition of Wright, Gogic & Nisbet. Two of the additions would not require transfer fees, & Nisbet, imo, is an investment as if he performs as well in the premier league, will make us big bucks.
CMurdoch
06-07-2020, 08:23 PM
Agyepong only managed to start 5 times last season whilst on a season long loan in Belgium and his team were relegated
No way Hibs recruitment team would go for him. Would also have to buy a new treatment table as David Gray has worn the old one out.
supermcginn
06-07-2020, 08:31 PM
While true Barker was alright when he could be arsed which was hardly ever at all.
Not even close to being true.
The 90+2
06-07-2020, 08:34 PM
Not even close to being true.
Alright then he was amazing then 👍
The 90+2
06-07-2020, 08:35 PM
Not a chance . Barker did a lot more for us than Thomas did . Not even close imo .
He did indeed but TA was injured more. Only an opinion that matters little anyway as neither will likely ever be back.
Bobby's Cinema
06-07-2020, 08:37 PM
Struggling to remember any meaningful contribution from Tam A.
Not a player to take us to where we want to go. Agree with previous poster ie lets not waste time signing more squad players - we need better than what we have already I don't put him in that category.
04Sauzee
06-07-2020, 08:40 PM
Think the Agyepong rumour had been put to bed, don't think we will be signing Barker so not sure why we are comparing the 2 😁
Hopefully hear some news in the next few days.
hibs#1
06-07-2020, 08:42 PM
Definitely improved us but we were still inconsistent at best. And the squad is weaker than it was then.
True, perhaps likes the look of some of the younger guys also, personally still reckon we will sign 3-4 players anyway. Whether they will be in before the 1st of August is debatable.
tonyrougier123
06-07-2020, 08:45 PM
Agyepong would be a huge gamble in terms of availability.I dont think he is what we should Be looking at,pulls up every time he's on the pitch,even worse than barker in that respect.
Unless the cost is minimal we should be avoiding players that simply dont play games wherever they play.
Look at how solid boyle is for a winger,riding challenges and putting himself about,these boys are far too flimsy to make a decent impact on the regular.
We should be at the table with boyle discussing a new 2-4 year deal,as nothing has transpired offer wise.and we know he can play well and often.
erin go bragh
06-07-2020, 08:47 PM
Mickey Mallon confirmed as Utd manager on a two year deal . Could be a nice bit of Buisness from them .
Didn't know it was Mallon that signed Vardy for £150k for his non league team . Certainly a step up from Neilson .imo .
Unseen work
06-07-2020, 09:17 PM
Just had a text off a mate saying supposedly we’re interested in Jonathan Afolabi on Loan from Celtic.
Young striker that can play off the left, think they’ve high hopes for him.
Unsure how true it is but thought I’d share, anyone heard similar?
Smartie
06-07-2020, 09:19 PM
Given the financial constraints we currently operate under, would be happy with the squad we have with the addition of Wright, Gogic & Nisbet. Two of the additions would not require transfer fees, & Nisbet, imo, is an investment as if he performs as well in the premier league, will make us big bucks.
Do we not still have Tim Clancy’s treatment table in a cupboard somewhere?
He’s probably still on it.
Smartie
06-07-2020, 09:24 PM
Given the financial constraints we currently operate under, would be happy with the squad we have with the addition of Wright, Gogic & Nisbet. Two of the additions would not require transfer fees, & Nisbet, imo, is an investment as if he performs as well in the premier league, will make us big bucks.
The more I think about it, the more I think they’d be 3 cracking signings.
They are types of player we need. They’ve done well at smaller clubs and deserve a chance to see if they can raise their game.
3 solid signings like that deal with obvious deficiencies and we can supplement them with some younger players getting a chance to fill the squad.
If we’re around mid table by January, we could do our traditional good business then to push for top 4. We might know about more our medium term financial prospects in January.
Robbo6-2
06-07-2020, 09:26 PM
We are extremely short up front. We badly need a striker.
S4uzee
06-07-2020, 09:30 PM
We are extremely short up front. We badly need a striker.
We badly need about 7 players
Heisenberg
06-07-2020, 09:31 PM
Just had a text off a mate saying supposedly we’re interested in Jonathan Afolabi on Loan from Celtic.
Young striker that can play off the left, think they’ve high hopes for him.
Unsure how true it is but thought I’d share, anyone heard similar?
Would rather give Gullan a chance.
Bronson
06-07-2020, 09:36 PM
Given the financial constraints we currently operate under, would be happy with the squad we have with the addition of Wright, Gogic & Nisbet. Two of the additions would not require transfer fees, & Nisbet, imo, is an investment as if he performs as well in the premier league, will make us big bucks.
That would be a grim window imo. I appreciate these are difficult economic circumstances but everyone’s in the same boat. I’d take gogic i see why we’re after him, nisbet is a prospect but i find drey wright an extremely underwhelming signing. If that’s our only summer additions to replace mcnulty, omeonga, docherty, naismith, bogdan, slivka and whittaker i would be very concerned.
Lets not forget this is Hibs we’re talking about. Without having delusions of grandeur, we’re better than that.
B.H.F.C
06-07-2020, 09:39 PM
We badly need about 7 players
We ain’t getting that. Most teams will have a smaller squad this year and young players will get a chance. We’ll be the same. I think we’ll get about four. They need to be first name on the team sheet tho signings, not squad fillers.
04Sauzee
06-07-2020, 09:44 PM
We ain’t getting that. Most teams will have a smaller squad this year and young players will get a chance. We’ll be the same. I think we’ll get about four. They need to be first name on the team sheet tho signings, not squad fillers.
Without knowing if any players will be sold or moved on its difficult to say if we will get 4 or 7 players in, id imagine we may do some wheeling and dealing to try and ballance the squad.
neil7908
06-07-2020, 09:49 PM
We badly need about 7 players
I wouldn't want 7 players unless we see a lot of departures.
We need 3 real quality players to come straight into the starting XI. The rest of the squad can be supplemented with younger players.
B.H.F.C
06-07-2020, 09:49 PM
Without knowing if any players will be sold or moved on its difficult to say if we will get 4 or 7 players in, id imagine we may do some wheeling and dealing to try and ballance the squad.
Would agree with that. If we’re talking about squad size though, I think it’ll only be three or four bigger than it is now.
We won’t sign a defender unless we move one on IMO. We’ll sign a midfielder. We are signing a wide player. We’ll move Kamberi on and sign a striker. Not convinced we’ll sign another beyond that. Possibly a back up goalie.
Unseen work
06-07-2020, 10:05 PM
Although we have a lot of defenders on paper
Gray
Mcgregor
Porteous
Are all injury prone and were unsure how they’ll recover which leaves us with
McGinn
James - likely time be moved on
Jackson
Hanlon
Stevenson
Mackie
Which isn’t the best, if everyone is fit then brilliant but it’s not been that way for a while. It’s a bit of a mess imo with unbalanced we are and having older players on long term contracts. I imagine this also adds to wanting Gogic as he can cover at the back.
Also worth noticing Ben Stirling has been promoted to the first team on the official website, could this be his year? Got to say I would class him as a centre mid personally.
Robbo6-2
06-07-2020, 10:09 PM
Ben Sterling impressed in some of the pre season games last year but I was surprised he couldn't really get a game for Arbroath last year.
Folk are saying Mackie not good enough but he played most games for Dundee when fit.
B.H.F.C
06-07-2020, 10:10 PM
Although we have a lot of defenders on paper
Gray
Mcgregor
Porteous
Are all injury prone and were unsure how they’ll recover which leaves us with
McGinn
James - likely time be moved on
Jackson
Hanlon
Stevenson
Mackie
Which isn’t the best, if everyone is fit then brilliant but it’s not been that way for a while. It’s a bit of a mess imo with unbalanced we are and having older players on long term contracts. I imagine this also adds to wanting Gogic as he can cover at the back.
Also worth noticing Ben Stirling has been promoted to the first team on the official website, could this be his year? Got to say I would class him as a centre mid personally.
Agree with some of the points you make but the problem we have is that they’re all contracted. Not sure we can give out more contracts to defenders without any of those moving on. James is the obvious one but is he going to get a better deal than the two years he has left with us?
Not sure about Stirling. 22 next month and never really threatened to break in to the team so unlikely I think.
1875STEVE
06-07-2020, 10:12 PM
I wouldn't want 7 players unless we see a lot of departures.
We need 3 real quality players to come straight into the starting XI. The rest of the squad can be supplemented with younger players.
Agreed, that's the route i think we, and most others, will go down.
I think we will get 3, maybe 4 and the squad will be bulked up with youths.
Ozyhibby
06-07-2020, 10:17 PM
Agree with some of the points you make but the problem we have is that they’re all contracted. Not sure we can give out more contracts to defenders without any of those moving on. James is the obvious one but is he going to get a better deal than the two years he has left with us?
Not sure about Stirling. 22 next month and never really threatened to break in to the team so unlikely I think.
If your 22 and can’t get a game for Arbroath then your not ready to play for Hibs.
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Hibee Mac
06-07-2020, 10:18 PM
It still amazes me that our recruitment team thought Tom James was worth a 3 year deal.
What were they thinking? Lots of chat last season from Graeme Mathie about wanting to get players on long term deals, you've got to get it right though and not just hand them out to everyone you sign.
Now puts us in a worse position relative to some other sides during this pandemic as we are stuck paying more wages with potentially less opportunity to snap up bargains that may arise between now and season starting.
SteveHFC
06-07-2020, 10:20 PM
Just had a text off a mate saying supposedly we’re interested in Jonathan Afolabi on Loan from Celtic.
Young striker that can play off the left, think they’ve high hopes for him.
Unsure how true it is but thought I’d share, anyone heard similar?
Would rather give Shanley a chance than sign Celtic youngsters on loan.
Robbo6-2
06-07-2020, 10:23 PM
It still amazes me that our recruitment team thought Tom James was worth a 3 year deal.
What were they thinking? Lots of chat last season from Graeme Mathie about wanting to get players on long term deals, you've got to get it right though and not just hand them out to everyone you sign.
Now puts us in a worse position relative to some other sides during this pandemic as we are stuck paying more wages with potentially less opportunity to snap up bargains that may arise between now and season starting.
Tom James 3 year contract is probably our worst piece of business for years.
Slow, ponderous, poor technically and defensively.
Could tell right away he was never gonna be good enough.
bingo70
06-07-2020, 10:25 PM
Would rather give Shanley a chance than sign Celtic youngsters on loan.
Loan system has worked well for us from Celtic in recent years.
Let’s face it, there’s a pretty good chance this guy won’t make it at Celtic, very few players do. If he comes to us and does well we’d probably have a decent chance of either extending his loan or signing him when he leaves Celtic.
If Shanley is better than him he’ll need to prove it in training and take any chance he’s given.
Clarence
06-07-2020, 10:26 PM
The circus across the road has been a bit of a distraction up until now but it is imperative that we strengthen otherwise we will struggle to find consistency. I personally hope we also give youth a chance but we need some good pros to come in and do a decent job for us. I thought Milligan did a decent job when he came in and I wouldn’t mind a similar signing to steady the ship and allow out better players to perform around him.
MacGruber
06-07-2020, 10:58 PM
We badly need about 7 players
Until the current squad are sorted out with wage deferrals/cuts situation we aren't going to be bringing in new faces.
Also, until it is sorted out we aren't going to know who is staying so hard to know what we'll need.
Really need to get to agreements one way or another. Take the cut or best wishes for the future.
You can see logic in the following:-
Kamberi sold - last year in contract and his comments - we get £150k
Boyle sold - last year in contract and we get up to £1m.
James - moves on - a free if he can secure move
Gogic - the defensive steel we have been missing and knows the league and would be a fans favorite
Nisbet - replaces Kamberi and we say spend £200k, plenty of potential.
Wright - replaces Boyle and has a chance to make a big mark. But we will miss Boyle consistency and goals and his ability to play upfront.
So we are up financially and while Boyle is a huge loss we will have improved elsewhere. With Gullen given his chance and the squad supplemented by more younger players to keep numbers tight then we would be good to go.
B.H.F.C
06-07-2020, 11:02 PM
Until the current squad are sorted out with wage deferrals/cuts situation we aren't going to be bringing in new faces.
Also, until it is sorted out we aren't going to know who is staying so hard to know what we'll need.
Really need to get to agreements one way or another. Take the cut or best wishes for the future.
Best wishes for the future might not work if they don’t have someone else willing to match the contract they have here. Which will be the case for most of them IMO.
EVENTUALLY
07-07-2020, 05:25 AM
Tom James 3 year contract is probably our worst piece of business for years.
Slow, ponderous, poor technically and defensively.
Could tell right away he was never gonna be good enough.
He's not. His technical ability is good and he is comfortable on either foot. He cannot or will not tackle an opponent which is his biggest downfall.
McGinn and Gray will play ahead of him, so unless he can offer anything in midfield he would be not be making it into the side as a defender.
Since452
07-07-2020, 05:32 AM
Tom James 3 year contract is probably our worst piece of business for years.
Slow, ponderous, poor technically and defensively.
Could tell right away he was never gonna be good enough.
I thought he was alright before his injury. Scored a peach against someone. Was put back in when he clearly wasn't ready and was hung out to dry. Must have destroyed his confidence and you could see it. Actually felt sorry for him. Personally feel he hasn't had a good crack of the whip yet. Look how long it took Doidge and Newell to settle. Dury still out for me and willing to give the boy a chance.
Peevemor
07-07-2020, 06:10 AM
Tom James 3 year contract is probably our worst piece of business for years.
Slow, ponderous, poor technically and defensively.
Could tell right away he was never gonna be good enough.
I think you're being hard there. I think he could well fit in nicely given a run in a team on decent form.
Unseen work
07-07-2020, 06:22 AM
He's not. His technical ability is good and he is comfortable on either foot. He cannot or will not tackle an opponent which is his biggest downfall.
McGinn and Gray will play ahead of him, so unless he can offer anything in midfield he would be not be making it into the side as a defender.
Agree with you on his technical ability, think he is very good in that respect. More than comfortable on either foot and can spray passes at ease, also makes very intelligent passes and has a good strike as he showed pre season.
But when we signed him I thought we were getting a high energy, technically good full back that would contribute a lot of assists and goals. Unfortunately it turns out he’s the opposite and is so lacklustre it’s frightening.
Hes poor defensively and never gets proper tight to his man or puts in a challenge.
He is still young and has potential but he would have to up his energy massively to turn it around for us.
Not In The Know
07-07-2020, 06:27 AM
I think you're being hard there. I think he could well fit in nicely given a run in a team on decent form.
He might do ok not playing in front of fans.
If your 22 and can’t get a game for Arbroath then your not ready to play for Hibs.
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At much the same age Martin Boyle couldn't get a game for a Championship club!
Alex Trager
07-07-2020, 06:57 AM
Agree with you on his technical ability, think he is very good in that respect. More than comfortable on either foot and can spray passes at ease, also makes very intelligent passes and has a good strike as he showed pre season.
But when we signed him I thought we were getting a high energy, technically good full back that would contribute a lot of assists and goals. Unfortunately it turns out he’s the opposite and is so lacklustre it’s frightening.
Hes poor defensively and never gets proper tight to his man or puts in a challenge.
He is still young and has potential but he would have to up his energy massively to turn it around for us.
I remember the first game I seen him, it may have been the first game of the season, and he kept coming into the centre midfield and doing what Vela should have been doing. I kept getting them mixed up.
I’d be interested to see him in that position actually
Ozyhibby
07-07-2020, 06:58 AM
At much the same age Martin Boyle couldn't get a game for a Championship club!
He also had 151 senior appearances and 41 goals under his belt. How does that compare to Ben Stirling?
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Since452
07-07-2020, 07:02 AM
He might do ok not playing in front of fans.
Sad but true
04Sauzee
07-07-2020, 07:11 AM
Drey Wright believed not to have been training with the first team of yesterday
Good to see some of the young boys included with the first team
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-news-kamberi-rejoins-training-18553324.amp?__twitter_impression=true
calumhibee1
07-07-2020, 07:12 AM
Agree with some of the points you make but the problem we have is that they’re all contracted. Not sure we can give out more contracts to defenders without any of those moving on. James is the obvious one but is he going to get a better deal than the two years he has left with us?
Not sure about Stirling. 22 next month and never really threatened to break in to the team so unlikely I think.
Why on earth do we still have him if he’s 22? No offence to the lad but he’s nowhere near our first team at 22 year old, surely he should never have been given a contract until this age.
Heisenberg
07-07-2020, 07:14 AM
Drey Wright believed not to have been training with the first team of yesterday
Good to see some of the young boys included with the first team
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-news-kamberi-rejoins-training-18553324.amp?__twitter_impression=true
Interesting that Wright isn’t there. Deal off potentially?
The Count
07-07-2020, 07:22 AM
There are always the odd exceptions but over my years watching Hibs if a young development player us not in the first team squad/playing by age 19/20 they dont make it at Hibs.
Earlydelivery
07-07-2020, 07:24 AM
Interesting that Wright isn’t there. Deal off potentially?
Deal done hopefully Friday announcement
B.H.F.C
07-07-2020, 07:29 AM
Interesting that Wright isn’t there. Deal off potentially?
Maybe still having his medical that started about a fortnight ago.
Ozyhibby
07-07-2020, 07:43 AM
25 days until our first league game and we appear to be a lot weaker than last season. A lot of work needs done over the next 3 weeks. I would think that there is likely to only be 1 or 2 pre season games v teams in our own league. It’s going to be a weird start.
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MickeyEdwards
07-07-2020, 07:46 AM
Rumours on Twitter that Hibs have made 45 staff redundant without publicity.
Although I couldn’t see anything on here about such a topic, does anyone know if there is any semblance of truth in what is on Twitter please?
Thanks guys.
GonzoReturns
07-07-2020, 07:46 AM
Maybe until he has signed he won’t be able to be part of the first team ‘bubble’?!?
04Sauzee
07-07-2020, 07:52 AM
Rumours on Twitter that Hibs have made 45 staff redundant without publicity.
Although I couldn’t see anything on here about such a topic, does anyone know if there is any semblance of truth in what is on Twitter please?
Thanks guys.
If you are following tweets from this then yes our club is goosed. Just read some of his tweets
https://twitter.com/TheReal_Romanov/status/1280393048061554691?s=19
Ozyhibby
07-07-2020, 07:53 AM
Rumours on Twitter that Hibs have made 45 staff redundant without publicity.
Although I couldn’t see anything on here about such a topic, does anyone know if there is any semblance of truth in what is on Twitter please?
Thanks guys.
I can quite believe we will be making redundancies, I didn’t think we had 45 staff?
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Heisenberg
07-07-2020, 08:02 AM
Trying to find something for Flo that suits both parties.
https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/status/1280411229215789058?s=21
Unseen work
07-07-2020, 08:06 AM
Who is number 46 in the photos? Innes Murray?
Hes another who is 22 or so and never been close to the first team.
Also, check the size of big Daz. Unit.
Heisenberg
07-07-2020, 08:08 AM
If you are following tweets from this then yes our club is goosed. Just read some of his tweets
https://twitter.com/TheReal_Romanov/status/1280393048061554691?s=19
That account is one of the most ridiculous I’ve read. A middle aged man sitting on twitter all day making up stories about Hibs. He’s plucked that 45 number out of nowhere. Takes obsessed to a whole new level.
we are hibs
07-07-2020, 08:16 AM
The quicker we can move tom james on the better. Massively out his depth.
Ozyhibby
07-07-2020, 08:19 AM
The quicker we can move tom james on the better. Massively out his depth.
His performance at Fir Park is probably one of the worst I’ve seen from a senior player at Hibs for a long time.
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Unseen work
07-07-2020, 08:22 AM
Porto also needs to get in the gym and build up his legs. For being a big guy there is very little on his legs, it’s no coincidence he has had bad knee injuries.
Compare them to Hallberg, Daz, Boyle and the rest and his look to have next to no muscle.
JimBHibees
07-07-2020, 08:22 AM
He went to a Belgian team
Was he also not at Killie for a very short time?
neil7908
07-07-2020, 08:24 AM
I remember the first game I seen him, it may have been the first game of the season, and he kept coming into the centre midfield and doing what Vela should have been doing. I kept getting them mixed up.
I’d be interested to see him in that position actually
I think he's looked good technically but got torn a new one when up against tricky or fast wide players. Which is terminal for a fullback.
On the balance if he could find a new club I think it would be best for all parties but if he stays I would like to see him being used in a more central area in friendlies.
B.H.F.C
07-07-2020, 08:27 AM
Porto also needs to get in the gym and build up his legs. For being a big guy there is very little on his legs, it’s no coincidence he has had bad knee injuries.
Compare them to Hallberg, Daz, Boyle and the rest and his look to have next to no muscle.
Daz and Boyle maybe no the best example when it comes to knee injuries.
JimBHibees
07-07-2020, 08:33 AM
That account is one of the most ridiculous I’ve read. A middle aged man sitting on twitter all day making up stories about Hibs. He’s plucked that 45 number out of nowhere. Takes obsessed to a whole new level.
Yep bitter Hearts fans will have nothing better to do for the next few months other than make up catastrophic stories about Hibs. :greengrin
The Sundance Kid
07-07-2020, 08:36 AM
Was he also not at Killie for a very short time?
He was linked with them last summer but never signed, went on loan to Beveren in Belgium instead
Keyser Sauzee
07-07-2020, 08:47 AM
I remember the first game I seen him, it may have been the first game of the season, and he kept coming into the centre midfield and doing what Vela should have been doing. I kept getting them mixed up.
I’d be interested to see him in that position actually
I think he wants far too much time on the ball as a full back never mind in the middle of the park, if he was to play there he’d constantly lose possession.
JimBHibees
07-07-2020, 08:47 AM
He was linked with them last summer but never signed, went on loan to Beveren in Belgium instead
Ok cheers had vague recollection he had signed but obviously wrong.
Onceinawhile
07-07-2020, 08:49 AM
Was it not the case that Stirling was getting a game to start with, but then he played for our reserves and the Arbroath manager had a flakey about it?
The Modfather
07-07-2020, 09:07 AM
Why on earth do we still have him if he’s 22? No offence to the lad but he’s nowhere near our first team at 22 year old, surely he should never have been given a contract until this age.
While I do have sympathy for most of our youngsters when they don’t make it as I don’t feel we give them a fair chance, often any chance at all. I also think we need to be a lot more ruthless and not hang on to players who are yet to make the breakthrough into their 20s.
Gypsy King
07-07-2020, 09:21 AM
Gogic would give us the steel in the middle we haven't had since Bartley. The fact he has remained a free agent for this long amazes me - I hope its because there has been a deal done with hibs in good faith to sign him nce wage deferrals/cuts have been sor ted.
Ozyhibby
07-07-2020, 09:30 AM
Gogic would give us the steel in the middle we haven't had since Bartley. The fact he has remained a free agent for this long amazes me - I hope its because there has been a deal done with hibs in good faith to sign him nce wage deferrals/cuts have been sor ted.
Don’t think we can wait much longer on these deferrals being sorted. If they haven’t been sorted by now then it’s unlikely they will be. We need to get on and start preparing for the new season. We don’t have a squad capable of top 6 just now, never mind a Euro spot.
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04Sauzee
07-07-2020, 09:31 AM
Gogic working out, looks like a fine specimen 😁
SMAXXA
07-07-2020, 09:40 AM
You would think if Gogic is happening he would be in training like wright I’m not convinced it is happening
ian cruise
07-07-2020, 09:42 AM
Think we are short a couple of positions but in the main I'm happy to give the youth players a go this season. We constantly hear folk comparing our youth development ahd ability to produce gems to Motherwell, Hamilton etc. but those clubs were playing youth players out of necessity not because they were world beaters from a young age. They became better players with extended first team experience, similarly to the scenario with our own golden generation. So for me let's give Sterling, both Murrays, Gullane, Mackie and Doig the opportunity in the first team and let's see if Ross and the coaches can mould them in to the sort of players we need.
04Sauzee
07-07-2020, 09:43 AM
You would think if Gogic is happening he would be in training like wright I’m not convinced it is happening
Can't say I'm convinced either but it certainly looks like he's training on his own and keeping pretty fit
Alex Trager
07-07-2020, 09:49 AM
Gogic working out, looks like a fine specimen [emoji16]
Wow
HendoDelivered
07-07-2020, 09:55 AM
You would think if Gogic is happening he would be in training like wright I’m not convinced it is happening
Sadly, I’d go along with this as well.
Jim44
07-07-2020, 09:57 AM
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-news-kamberi-rejoins-training-18553324.amp?__twitter_impression=true
Unseen work
07-07-2020, 10:15 AM
Gogic looks like some sort of MMA nutter you would see in something like Fight Club, absolutely perfect for what we need.
Unseen work
07-07-2020, 10:18 AM
Daz and Boyle maybe no the best example when it comes to knee injuries.
You’re right I don’t think I could have picked worse people :greengrin The point still stands though, you’d quads and the muscles surrounding same are important in protecting and stabilising your knee. For the size and type of player he is he needs that strength and stability in his knee.
I’m sure the issue with him was his knee was popping out of place too? Even more of a reason to really build up his muscles, you would think he would be hammering squats etc with the break we’ve had and with him doing rehab.
Last Minute
07-07-2020, 10:25 AM
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-news-kamberi-rejoins-training-18553324.amp?__twitter_impression=true
That RAT should be nowhere near east mains, and should not be wearing our colours . GHTF.
Was it not the case that Stirling was getting a game to start with, but then he played for our reserves and the Arbroath manager had a flakey about it?
I think it was more about which position he should be played but essentially you're correct. He then went to Alloa, only played twice but was MOTM & laid on a goal in the 2nd. He can play pretty much anywhere across the back & also in midfield. He's also a big lad. Given current circumstances I think it's perfectly reasonable for him to be in 1st team squad.
hibbysam
07-07-2020, 10:56 AM
That RAT should be nowhere near east mains, and should not be wearing our colours . GHTF.
If we want money for him, which we need, then we don’t have a choice.
Vault Boy
07-07-2020, 11:05 AM
Apologies if I've missed it, but any idea who the person on the right of Callum Yeats is?
23728
franck sauzee
07-07-2020, 11:10 AM
Apologies if I've missed it, but any idea who the person on the right of Callum Yeats is?
23728
Could the guy on the right be Kosovar Sidiki?
Unseen work
07-07-2020, 11:11 AM
Apologies if I've missed it, but any idea who the person on the right of Callum Yeats is?
23728
Yeates and Jackson by the looks of it.
Vault Boy
07-07-2020, 11:11 AM
Could the guy on the right be Kosovar Sidiki?
I think Sadiki has been released
Northernhibee
07-07-2020, 11:11 AM
Apologies if I've missed it, but any idea who the person on the right of Callum Yeats is?
23728
Looks a bit like Kosovar Sadiki on the right.
Vault Boy
07-07-2020, 11:12 AM
Yeates and Jackson by the looks of it.
Ah could well be Jackson, some tan on him in that case :greengrin
Smartie
07-07-2020, 11:14 AM
Is it not Darren McGregor?
Vault Boy
07-07-2020, 11:16 AM
Is it not Darren McGregor?
Beard isn't massive enough!
Peevemor
07-07-2020, 11:19 AM
Apologies if I've missed it, but any idea who the person on the right of Callum Yeats is?
23728
Jack Ross. :agree:
Easy! Any more?
Vault Boy
07-07-2020, 11:23 AM
Jack Ross. :agree:
Easy! Any more?
I was waiting for that, thanks for getting it out of the way early doors. :greengrin
Leitherhibs
07-07-2020, 11:25 AM
The guy in the pic could be Jackson, but I think there's too much heigh differential and he's too dark. Maybe another trialist? 1 in 1 out, with Drey Wright not training with us anymore.
CapitalGreen
07-07-2020, 11:26 AM
It’s Jackson. You can see his tan in the first clips of the video.
Vault Boy
07-07-2020, 11:31 AM
It’s Jackson. You can see his tan in the first clips of the video.
Only reason I'm not certain it's Jackson is the skin tone. If it is AJ, he look far darker than in the first few clips, could just be the way that part was shot I suppose. 🤷
04Sauzee
07-07-2020, 11:42 AM
St Mirren make another signing
Nathon Sheron DM from Fleetwood Town on loan
Stuart93
07-07-2020, 12:43 PM
The guy in the pic could be Jackson, but I think there's too much heigh differential and he's too dark. Maybe another trialist? 1 in 1 out, with Drey Wright not training with us anymore.
Drey Wright isn’t training with us anymore? Where’s that came from?
I thought he was signed & an announcement would be made in the future?
I see it further back on the thread. I wouldn’t read too much into him not being seen training with the first team to be honest.
04Sauzee
07-07-2020, 01:25 PM
Looks like Motherwell could be closing in on Callum Lang
Wigan. TWO player moves in a hurry. Brighton ahead in Weir chase. Motherwell and Lang got a chance. Raise some money. And shouldn’t really harm team in short term.
Fergus52
07-07-2020, 02:22 PM
Don’t think we can wait much longer on these deferrals being sorted. If they haven’t been sorted by now then it’s unlikely they will be. We need to get on and start preparing for the new season. We don’t have a squad capable of top 6 just now, never mind a Euro spot.
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:yawn:
Which squad outside of the OF, Aberdeen and maybe Motherwell do you think is better than ours then?
ThatDayInMay
07-07-2020, 02:24 PM
Mark Atkinson on Twitter:
“Drey Wright to Hibs is the worst-kept secret of the transfer window. Saw one of my colleagues in the media last night saying club keeps cards extremely close to chest on incomings and that's absolutely true. Doesn't mean they're not looking though. Lots going on behind the scenes.”
Stuart93
07-07-2020, 02:28 PM
Mark Atkinson on Twitter:
“Drey Wright to Hibs is the worst-kept secret of the transfer window. Saw one of my colleagues in the media last night saying club keeps cards extremely close to chest on incomings and that's absolutely true. Doesn't mean they're not looking though. Lots going on behind the scenes.”
That sounds a lot more positive.
erin go bragh
07-07-2020, 02:30 PM
Wigan to get shot of players . Any we could be interested in ?Edit . Oops I read it wrong .
Alan Nixon tweeted this :
Wigan. Looks like a player sale in next 24 hours to go towards wages for rest of the squad ... mad times.
04Sauzee
07-07-2020, 02:34 PM
Wigan to get shot of players . Any we could be interested in ?Edit . Oops I read it wrong .
Alan Nixon tweeted this :
Wigan. Looks like a player sale in next 24 hours to go towards wages for rest of the squad ... mad times.
He's also quoted Lang to Motherwell as fairly likely I think
Hibs90
07-07-2020, 02:52 PM
Kamberi away yet?
Seeing those pics of him laughing and joking around at training like he couldn't care less is pissing me off.
Get him to **** Hibs.
Smartie
07-07-2020, 02:55 PM
Kamberi away yet?
Seeing those pics of him laughing and joking around at training like he couldn't care less is pissing me off.
Get him to **** Hibs.
Is that worse than sulking around with a face like a skelped erse?
I'm not a fan and I'd like to see him gone, but I think you're being a wee bit harsh on him there.
Smiling and taking part until the right offer comes along is the best we can hope for from him imo.
Peevemor
07-07-2020, 02:56 PM
Kamberi away yet?
Seeing those pics of him laughing and joking around at training like he couldn't care less is pissing me off.
Get him to **** Hibs.
If his face was tripping him folk would be moaning about his attitude.
Hopefully he'll get sorted with another club soon.
MWHIBBIES
07-07-2020, 02:58 PM
Kamberi away yet?
Seeing those pics of him laughing and joking around at training like he couldn't care less is pissing me off.
Get him to **** Hibs.
You think him laughing and joking in training means he doesn't care? Good lord...
Do you expect Hibs to post pictures of him looking raging?
Enough things to criticise him for without imagining things.
Hibs90
07-07-2020, 03:01 PM
You think him laughing and joking in training means he doesn't care? Good lord...
Do you expect Hibs to post pictures of him looking raging?
Enough things to criticise him for without imagining things.
I meant with regards to his previous comments.
Onceinawhile
07-07-2020, 03:01 PM
:yawn:
Which squad outside of the OF, Aberdeen and maybe Motherwell do you think is better than ours then?
Livi. They did after all finish above us.
Green Manalishi
07-07-2020, 03:04 PM
Kamberi away yet?
Seeing those pics of him laughing and joking around at training like he couldn't care less is pissing me off.
Get him to **** Hibs. The fact his team mates are laughing and joking with him just goes to show that the fans were probably more upset at his comments than the players.
SHODAN
07-07-2020, 03:08 PM
Of all the things that would piss me off, Kamberi enjoying himself at training is pretty much at the bottom of the list.
Green Manalishi
07-07-2020, 03:16 PM
Lets face it, fitba fans are as fickle as the players. If he starts against Killie and bangs in a hatrick we might not chant his name but we will be delighted
hibsquaker
07-07-2020, 03:21 PM
In an ideal world he would come out in press saying he made a mistake. Stays at hibs, bangs them in while there are no crowds and wins back the heart of the support before crowds are let back in. Won't happen though!
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The fact his team mates are laughing and joking with him just goes to show that the fans were probably more upset at his comments than the players.
Probably because a few of them thinking wouldn't mind a wee lucrative move to Ibrox myself :cb
Stuart93
07-07-2020, 04:04 PM
Jesus Christ a players not allowed to laugh and joke at training?
FFS.
HendoDelivered
07-07-2020, 04:09 PM
Kamberi away yet?
Seeing those pics of him laughing and joking around at training like he couldn't care less is pissing me off.
Get him to **** Hibs.
Get a grip mate.
HoboHarry
07-07-2020, 04:17 PM
Kamberi away yet?
Seeing those pics of him laughing and joking around at training like he couldn't care less is pissing me off.
Get him to **** Hibs.
:doh:
sean04
07-07-2020, 04:30 PM
Kamberi will go when hibs decide the bids are acceptable. Potential a few teams after him and let them fight it out. Can’t just accept the 1st bid cos he’s no the flavour of the month
HFC93
07-07-2020, 04:30 PM
I'm pretty ambivalent about the Kamberi situation, and I wouldn't be suprised if he plays for us again.
Billy Whizz
07-07-2020, 04:38 PM
Kamberi will go when hibs decide the bids are acceptable. Potential a few teams after him and let them fight it out. Can’t just accept the 1st bid cos he’s no the flavour of the month
When does the transfer window close, is it October sometime
Also when do teams in England’s start next season league campaigns, as it could be a bit before he’s sold
Vault Boy
07-07-2020, 04:47 PM
When does the transfer window close, is it October sometime
Also when do teams in England’s start next season league campaigns, as it could be a bit before he’s sold
I believe the start date is 12th September for EPL and EFL Championship.
Billy Whizz
07-07-2020, 04:53 PM
I believe the start date is 12th September for EPL and EFL Championship.
Ta
So quite conceivably it could be well into next month, if he was to go to a Championship team
Just read, window is open until 5th October
Tambo
07-07-2020, 04:58 PM
Sorry if this has been asked earlier when the training article came out, what's the news with tommy block? Was he training with the first team?
King Cosell
07-07-2020, 05:03 PM
Kamberi will go when hibs decide the bids are acceptable. Potential a few teams after him and let them fight it out. Can’t just accept the 1st bid cos he’s no the flavour of the month
If he's going to England, he'll want a Championship side. Likely to be one of the 8 or 9 clubs in the relegation mix. Once that's sorted we might see some movement.
04Sauzee
07-07-2020, 05:04 PM
I believe the start date is 12th September for EPL and EFL Championship.
Sorry for goinf of piste a little but does that mean Scottish football will be all that the UK Sky Sports subscribers will be watching? If so we have an opportunity to showcase that we have a decent standard of football up here.
Centre Hawf
07-07-2020, 05:37 PM
Kamberi away yet?
Seeing those pics of him laughing and joking around at training like he couldn't care less is pissing me off.
Get him to **** Hibs.
Or perhaps his teammates etc couldn't give a jot about the way he left to go to Rangers and the morale is good in the camp?
But yeah we could go on the fact he couldn't care less and spends the entirety of training cackling like a mad man at all his teammates at how he wants to go and hates them all.
Hibs90
07-07-2020, 06:25 PM
:doh:
Speak for yourself.
Hibs90
07-07-2020, 06:25 PM
Get a grip mate.
Nah I'm fine thanks.
Leitherhibs
07-07-2020, 06:45 PM
Sorry for goinf of piste a little but does that mean Scottish football will be all that the UK Sky Sports subscribers will be watching? If so we have an opportunity to showcase that we have a decent standard of football up here.
Yes. Massive opportunity.
SHODAN
07-07-2020, 06:56 PM
I'm pretty ambivalent about the Kamberi situation, and I wouldn't be suprised if he plays for us again.
Timing couldn't be better. Closed doors games, gets a few goals, fans all back on board.
04Sauzee
07-07-2020, 08:05 PM
Robbie Neilson wants fast wide players for his championship challenge starting in October. Here's 7 the EEN have identified with one of them being Drey Wright
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/7-wide-men-hearts-boss-robbie-neilson-could-target-2906673
Unseen work
07-07-2020, 08:12 PM
A Dunfermline fan on twitter is saying they’ve rejected a couple of Hibs bids for Nisbet over last couple of weeks. Unsure if he is in the know or not but he’s adamant.
04Sauzee
07-07-2020, 08:15 PM
A Dunfermline fan on twitter is saying they’ve rejected a couple of Hibs bids for Nisbet over last couple of weeks. Unsure if he is in the know or not but he’s adamant.
If a club like Hibs have put in cash bids for Nisbet the press would know about it, I'm sure Dunfermline would leak it to start a bidding war. T I personally don't think we have made any bids
HendoDelivered
07-07-2020, 08:40 PM
Robbie Neilson wants fast wide players for his championship challenge starting in October. Here's 7 the EEN have identified with one of them being Drey Wright
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/7-wide-men-hearts-boss-robbie-neilson-could-target-2906673
Nicholson will go back there.
CraigHibee
07-07-2020, 08:42 PM
Nicholson will go back there.
Perfectly suited for each other 🤣
badabing67
07-07-2020, 08:53 PM
If we're playing a friendly against St Mirren on Saturday will it be on Hibs TV? If it's not I'll go mental. If it is can't wait.... anybody know what's happening with Hibs TV and pre season friendlies
Broken Gnome
07-07-2020, 08:53 PM
Perfectly suited for each other 🤣
Underrated subplot of the 2016 story, was wee weirdo Sam.
CraigHibee
07-07-2020, 09:00 PM
Underrated subplot of the 2016 story, was wee weirdo Sam.
Yip, touching himself in front of our end, he was just carrying on the jambo tradition 😁
04Sauzee
07-07-2020, 09:07 PM
Nicholson will go back there.
Hearts fans reckon they are getting Loise Appere from Dundee Utd
Niffy
07-07-2020, 09:16 PM
A Dunfermline fan on twitter is saying they’ve rejected a couple of Hibs bids for Nisbet over last couple of weeks. Unsure if he is in the know or not but he’s adamant.
Does he still sing Stand and Deliver ?
04Sauzee
07-07-2020, 09:32 PM
Does he still sing Stand and Deliver ?
It's a Dog Eat Dog World so maybe we're trying to do a deal
JimBHibees
07-07-2020, 09:39 PM
Underrated subplot of the 2016 story, was wee weirdo Sam.
Very weird and bizarrely got no punishment for it, what a joke.
et_hibby
07-07-2020, 09:42 PM
It's a Dog Eat Dog World so maybe we're trying to do a deal
Pars Wear White Socks
Eyrie
07-07-2020, 09:46 PM
Very weird and bizarrely got no punishment for it, what a joke.
Insufficient evidence :wink:
04Sauzee
07-07-2020, 10:14 PM
Stoke reported to be interested in Turnbull from Motherwell
HoboHarry
07-07-2020, 11:44 PM
It's a Dog Eat Dog World so maybe we're trying to do a deal
There will surely be Room at the Top......
RoxburghHibs
08-07-2020, 07:10 AM
It's a Dog Eat Dog World so maybe we're trying to do a deal
Are these in reference to Nesbit? If so I'd be surprised if we pay a fee this summer for any player.
But we do live in hope.
That said he would be a very good replacement for Kamberi if we can offload him (maybe use any fee we receive for this deal?).
04Sauzee
08-07-2020, 08:39 AM
The Agent who Neil Lennon uses alot teasing Celtic with signing News today.
Shelley Marciano follows him so must be Rockys agent
It's not going to be Rocky but think it's an Iserali forward
TheHibernator
08-07-2020, 09:32 AM
Yip, touching himself in front of our end, he was just carrying on the jambo tradition 😁
The picture of him crouched on the goal line with his head down after we equalised is very pleasing, wee f4nny
aljo7-0
08-07-2020, 10:48 AM
Nicholson will go back there.
a lot of players might go back to a former club with their cap in hand.
Nicholson will go back with balls in hand. Weirdo
Greenbeard
08-07-2020, 10:50 AM
Of all the things that would piss me off, Kamberi enjoying himself at training is pretty much at the bottom of the list.
All players should be striving to have their manager, team-mates and supporters on side and behave accordingly. Respect should reciprocal. Has Hunberi shown any contrition for his totally disrespectful remarks? Not that I have seen. Maybe he has done so in private but then you'd expect that to leak out in some way. Had he shown contrition and been fully accepted back in the fold at East Mains then smile and joke away. If not, then he is even more of a disrespecting weasel who we need shot of pronto. Weasels don't change their spots. Once a weasel always a weasel, even if you score a hat trick behind closed doors. Weasels out. (Cue complaints from the Weasel Appreciation Society.)
SouthMoroccoStu
08-07-2020, 10:54 AM
a lot of players might go back to a former club with their cap in hand.
Nicholson will go back with balls in hand. Weirdo
lol
Greenworld
08-07-2020, 11:11 AM
Are these in reference to Nesbit? If so I'd be surprised if we pay a fee this summer for any player.
But we do live in hope.
That said he would be a very good replacement for Kamberi if we can offload him (maybe use any fee we receive for this deal?).We have freed up a hell of a lot of wages. There is no excuse for some action.
It is still strange no announcement on current players deal being accepted . You can only think this is the reason for no signing action.
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Gypsy King
08-07-2020, 11:19 AM
My Pars supporting mate has just text to say he has heardthere has been a deal done for Nisbet and they have signed Declan McManus ashis replacement. Not sure with who though
Stuart93
08-07-2020, 11:36 AM
My Pars supporting mate has just text to say he has heardthere has been a deal done for Nisbet and they have signed Declan McManus ashis replacement. Not sure with who though
I’d heard they were signing McManus but didn’t know it was as a replacement for KN. it’ll be interesting to see who signs him if he moves on.
Don’t think any team are flush with cash right now.
04Sauzee
08-07-2020, 11:41 AM
My Pars supporting mate has just text to say he has heardthere has been a deal done for Nisbet and they have signed Declan McManus ashis replacement. Not sure with who though
I think Dunfermline are trying to get Aiden Nesbitt from Morton, has your friend got confused.
Heisenberg
08-07-2020, 12:17 PM
Flo for Docherty loan being discussed again.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/rangers-rekindle-interest-hibs-striker-florian-kamberi-loan-proposition-2907531
MrRobot
08-07-2020, 12:18 PM
My Pars supporting mate has just text to say he has heardthere has been a deal done for Nisbet and they have signed Declan McManus ashis replacement. Not sure with who though
Im certain we will sign Nisbet this window,
Green Badger
08-07-2020, 12:18 PM
EN reporting that Rangers want to take Kamberi back on loan.
Vault Boy
08-07-2020, 12:18 PM
Flo for Docherty loan being discussed again.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/rangers-rekindle-interest-hibs-striker-florian-kamberi-loan-proposition-2907531
Yes please. Although both on permanent deals would be even better.
Heisenberg
08-07-2020, 12:26 PM
Im certain we will sign Nisbet this window,
I’d be happy with that but I’m not as certain as you. We’d surely need to sell someone first.
CMurdoch
08-07-2020, 12:31 PM
Yes please. Although both on permanent deals would be even better.
Permanent deal is best for Hibs given Kamberi is likely to spend his loan on the Rangers bench thus diminishing his value whereas Docherty would be playing and impressing thus enhancing his value. According to transfer market website both players have 2 years remaining on their contracts. I thought Kamberi only had a year left but could be wrong.
Alex Trager
08-07-2020, 12:31 PM
My Pars supporting mate has just text to say he has heardthere has been a deal done for Nisbet and they have signed Declan McManus ashis replacement. Not sure with who though
Well here’s hoping it’s the hibbys!
That would be a huge boost!
inglisavhibs
08-07-2020, 12:31 PM
We have freed up a hell of a lot of wages. There is no excuse for some action.
It is still strange no announcement on current players deal being accepted . You can only think this is the reason for no signing action.
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Our income this season will drop significantly and our spend will be affected accordingly. Cost saving will be the order of the day and we should expect some of the younger players to take more part in the first team.
Alex Trager
08-07-2020, 12:34 PM
Permanent deal is best for Hibs given Kamberi is likely to spend his loan on the Rangers bench thus diminishing his value whereas Docherty would be playing and impressing thus enhancing his value. According to transfer market website both players have 2 years remaining on their contracts. I thought Kamberi only had a year left but could be wrong.
Kamberi has 1 year doch has two
Sean1875
08-07-2020, 12:34 PM
Flo for Docherty loan being discussed again.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/rangers-rekindle-interest-hibs-striker-florian-kamberi-loan-proposition-2907531
My only slight worry about this is if it does go ahead is Rangers could essentially sign Kamberi for free at the end of the season and still have Docherty on another year of his contract and we’d be left with neither player. Id rather we could sell Kamberi and get Docherty on loan but we’ll need to see.
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Unseen work
08-07-2020, 12:36 PM
Hope Hibs knock back the offer of player exchange as a loan.
Kamberi goes to Rangers for a year, after which he will be out of contract and they or another club will get him for free.
Docherty comes here for a year, after which he will still have a year left on his contract. I imagine he will perform well and have other interested parties meaning Rangers can sell him for money.
Permanent transfers or nothing.
04Sauzee
08-07-2020, 12:37 PM
I’d be happy with that but I’m not as certain as you. We’d surely need to sell someone first.
I thiught we'd sell Kamberi and sign Nisbet with the money we received, plus Nisbet I think would cost less on wages. This would put a spanner in that theory 😅
chippy
08-07-2020, 12:37 PM
Yes please. Although both on permanent deals would be even better.
An initial loan might suit Hibs and Docherty as he’d have no wage cut if still on Rangers books. Why not just make the loan for 2 years if both have 2 years left?
Garibaldis
08-07-2020, 12:37 PM
Kamberi and Docherty are probably at a similar value. A straight swap would work for all parties if both are interested.
Vault Boy
08-07-2020, 12:39 PM
An initial loan might suit Hibs and Docherty as he’d have no wage cut if still on Rangers books. Why not just make the loan for 2 years if both have 2 years left?
Kamberi only has one year left so it gives Ranger a slight advantage from that perspective.
Andy74
08-07-2020, 12:39 PM
Hope Hibs knock back the offer of player exchange as a loan.
Kamberi goes to Rangers for a year, after which he will be out of contract and they or another club will get him for free.
Docherty comes here for a year, after which he will still have a year left on his contract. I imagine he will perform well and have other interested parties meaning Rangers can sell him for money.
Permanent transfers or nothing.
Depends. If we were only going to get something like 100k for Kamberi anyway would Doherty be worth that for us for a year? Never mind the contract situation at the end of the year, we get a player playing for us for a year as well who made a good impact last year and should get better.
The longer a player is here the more chance he might see a long term future here too.
sean04
08-07-2020, 12:43 PM
Dochertys wages are to high for hibs to offer a permanent deal. Prob on 6/7k a week at rangers and still has 2 years left on his deal
Rangers would have to settle his contract 1st
Currie Hibee
08-07-2020, 12:43 PM
Straight permanent swap is the only deal worth entertaining. Anything else favours Rangers.
Vault Boy
08-07-2020, 12:45 PM
Dochertys wages are to high for hibs to offer a permanent deal. Prob on 6/7k a week at rangers and still has 2 years left on his deal
He's on less than Kamberi apparently.
Unseen work
08-07-2020, 12:45 PM
Dochertys wages are to high for hibs to offer a permanent deal. Prob on 6/7k a week at rangers and still has 2 years left on his deal
I’m sure the chat when they first signed was that Kamberi was on more at Hibs than Docherty was on at Rangers.
Bare in mind Docherty was a young player from Hamilton, I’d be surprised if he was on 7k a week.
Stuart93
08-07-2020, 12:47 PM
Yep like others are saying permanent swap only.
No point loaning him now when he’s available for free at the end of the season & GD will still have a year left on his deal.
We’d be left with neither at the end when we could’ve made ourself some much needed cash for FK
Unseen work
08-07-2020, 12:47 PM
Depends. If we were only going to get something like 100k for Kamberi anyway would Doherty be worth that for us for a year? Never mind the contract situation at the end of the year, we get a player playing for us for a year as well who made a good impact last year and should get better.
The longer a player is here the more chance he might see a long term future here to.
But the 100-200k we get from Kamberi could be key in us getting Nisbet. Gerrard clearly doesn’t want Docherty, he tries to punt him out on loan at every opportunity.
He might see his long term future here but then after this loan he might think 1.5 years at hibs is enough, I want another crack at England and go for more money.
A lot to consider.
sean04
08-07-2020, 12:48 PM
I’m sure the chat when they first signed was that Kamberi was on more at Hibs than Docherty was on at Rangers.
Bare in mind Docherty was a young player from Hamilton, I’d be surprised if he was on 7k a week.
There was a article last season about Sunderland being put off by Docherty a wages. Certainly not in the know would would imagine Sunderland having a high wage structure than us
Scooter
08-07-2020, 12:51 PM
Kamberi + docherty loan +£100kmin with sell on clause
gbhibby
08-07-2020, 12:54 PM
In any dealings with Rangers as well as Docherty coming to us I would be making the McCrorie bothers to us on loan being part of the deal for Kamberi. Won't happen but rate both of them.
SHODAN
08-07-2020, 01:10 PM
Flo for Docherty loan being discussed again.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/rangers-rekindle-interest-hibs-striker-florian-kamberi-loan-proposition-2907531
Please just make it a permanent swap both ways.
TheHibernator
08-07-2020, 01:13 PM
Timing couldn't be better. Closed doors games, gets a few goals, fans all back on board.
Nah, lots of fans made their minds up on him, I'm one of them.
Happy enough for him to bide his time whilst we sort something out, but he has to leave on a permanent deal in this window IMO.
TheHibernator
08-07-2020, 01:24 PM
My only slight worry about this is if it does go ahead is Rangers could essentially sign Kamberi for free at the end of the season and still have Docherty on another year of his contract and we’d be left with neither player. Id rather we could sell Kamberi and get Docherty on loan but we’ll need to see.
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They can sign him for free in January, only requires a player to be in last 6 months of contract.
badabing67
08-07-2020, 01:24 PM
Not sure where everyone is getting there valuation for Flo at around the 150k mark, he has to have a market value around the same as Boyler imo. I agree they're different types of player. However they are both established 1st team players who have both gained international recognition while representing our club. We had a £250k + £150k add on's bid in January rejected for Kevin Nisbet. I'm sure we went back with an improved offer before the deadline but I can't find any articles to back this up. The point being it would probably take that plus to land Nisbet in this window. Yet Nisbet has nowhere near the same experience as Flo and is completely unproven at this level. Yet it appears he is valued higher. So why would Rangers not be interested in Nisbet if he is a better player than Flo. When was the last time Rangers signed a striker worth £100k. I think everyone on here is selling Flo short.
Billy Whizz
08-07-2020, 01:26 PM
In any dealings with Rangers as well as Docherty coming to us I would be making the McCrorie bothers to us on loan being part of the deal for Kamberi. Won't happen but rate both of them.
The one at Pompey is average, the goalie one is going to Livvi again I think
Not sure where everyone is getting there valuation for Flo at around the 150k mark, he has to have a market value around the same as Boyler imo. I agree they're different types of player. However they are both established 1st team players who have both gained international recognition while representing our club. We had a £250k + £150k add on's bid in January rejected for Kevin Nisbet. I'm sure we went back with an improved offer before the deadline but I can't find any articles to back this up. The point being it would probably take that plus to land Nisbet in this window. Yet Nisbet has nowhere near the same experience as Flo and is completely unproven at this level. Yet it appears he is valued higher. So why would Rangers not be interested in Nisbet if he is a better player than Flo. When was the last time Rangers signed a striker worth £100k. I think everyone on here is selling Flo short.
Boyle is a solid pro and a good character that a few clubs may be wanting, Flo on the other hand isn't great in the dressing room and has been bother with coaches in the past. I'd be delighted to get our money back and move on.
Keith_M
08-07-2020, 01:50 PM
If Der Hun really want Flo, then make them pay a fair price.
£100k just doesn't cut it.
B.H.F.C
08-07-2020, 01:55 PM
If Der Hun really want Flo, then make them pay a fair price.
£100k just doesn't cut it.
If it was a straight swap there wouldn’t be any need for money to change hands. Kamberi doesn’t have a greater value than Docherty IMO.
I think the real stumbling block to any permanent deal would be how much Docherty would want to come here. He’d be giving up a bigger contract and leaving his boyhood club (even if he is extremely unlikely to get a game).
Heisenberg
08-07-2020, 02:00 PM
It seems Flo only wants a permanent move anyway.
“Understand Flo Kamberi remains keen on move to Rangers - but only on permanent deal. Another temporary swap with Greg Docherty has been suggested to Hibs but FK not interested in another loan. Rangers his preferred destination but also has options in England, Switzerland & Poland“
Tug Wilson
08-07-2020, 02:01 PM
I reckon that there is a lot going on in the background on this one.
Kamberi wants to go to Rangers. Apparently they want him.
If Docherty wants to come here then he knows what we are about.
Seems to be some disagreement over who has the higher wage.
If it is Kamberi then it seems simple to do a permanent swap. We can offer Docherty a decent wage.
If it is Docherty then things get complicated. However, I reckon that Hibs could structure something that would suit all parties. They have done before.
Docherty would be an excellent addition to the Hibs squad. A midfield 3 of Gogic, Docherty and Allan might be very interesting.
They can sign him for free in January, only requires a player to be in last 6 months of contract.
They can sign him on a pre contract in Jan but won’t get him for free. If they want him to play in Jan then they will have to agree a fee
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hibs#1
08-07-2020, 02:28 PM
Straight swap Kamberi for Docherty and if the huns are a bit sticky because of Docherty having the the extra year just offer them a sell on %.
Easy as that 😁 think I might become a Director of Football sometime.
Hibs90
08-07-2020, 02:35 PM
Any deals have to be permanent.
It's the only deal that would suit Hibs. Offer the huns a sell on percentage as part of Dochertys contract or some sort of buy back clause whereby in a couple of years they can buy him back.
Straight swap
Kamberi signs 2 or 3 year deal
Docherty signs 4 year deal with 2 million buy back fee for them which is only active after 1 year. We get a fee that we obviously wanted/planned for for Kamberi albeit in a roundabout way. No financial loss for Hibs. Rangers get their player and Docherty if they want him back after 2 years. Whether they would go for something like this who knows.
jacomo
08-07-2020, 02:47 PM
If Der Hun really want Flo, then make them pay a fair price.
£100k just doesn't cut it.
The problem is that they are not showing signs that they really want him.
If they punt Morelos they might be more keen.
ThatDayInMay
08-07-2020, 03:16 PM
Interesting Article:
http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2020/07/08/rangers-make-their-move-for-hibs-striker-flo-kamberi-as-they-suggest-loan-swap-with-greg-docherty-jack-ross-steven-gerrard-transfer-news/
Billy Whizz
08-07-2020, 04:03 PM
I see Neilson’s 2 assistants, Lee McCulloch and Gordon Forrest have “walked“ out on their roles at Dundee Utd
Wonder where they are going...
Lee Marvin
08-07-2020, 04:06 PM
Jambos seem to think they have signed Nisbet, for £600k....
04Sauzee
08-07-2020, 04:09 PM
Kilmarnock sign Mitch Pinnock
erin go bragh
08-07-2020, 04:09 PM
Mitch Pinnock signs for Kilmarnock . 25 year old winger . Can’t say I’ve ever heard of him .
04Sauzee
08-07-2020, 04:10 PM
Jambos seem to think they have signed Nisbet, for £600k....
If they have they have paid well over the odds for someone in the last year of his contract and could sign a pre contract in January
Billy Whizz
08-07-2020, 04:10 PM
Mitch Pinnock signs for Kilmarnock . 25 year old winger . Can’t say I’ve ever heard of him .
Me neither
Hibs90
08-07-2020, 04:11 PM
Jambos seem to think they have signed Nisbet, for £600k....
Aye and we've just signed prime Ronaldinho
Billy Whizz
08-07-2020, 04:11 PM
Jambos seem to think they have signed Nisbet, for £600k....
He’s not worth a 6th if that
Heisenberg
08-07-2020, 04:18 PM
Jambos seem to think they have signed Nisbet, for £600k....
600k would be ridiculous money for him.
Brightside
08-07-2020, 04:18 PM
He’s not worth a 6th if that
I hope they have bought him. 600k is mental.
Lee Marvin
08-07-2020, 04:25 PM
There is literally no chance that is true. The fact a large proportion over the road lap it up provides yet another insight to the levels of delusion they possess
04Sauzee
08-07-2020, 04:33 PM
Jack Fitzwater who was in Edinburgh has signed for Livingston 😁 so there was some truth in it
Livingston also sign Matej Poplatnik
Squealing pig
08-07-2020, 04:33 PM
Can we no swap Kamberi for Nesbit lol
we are hibs
08-07-2020, 04:38 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-defender-tom-james-told-first-team-opportunities-hibs-will-be-limited-next-season-2908032
Tom James basically been told to find a new club.
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/florian-kamberi-hibs-transfer-rangers-18565150.amp?__twitter_impression=true
Kamberi to reject a loan move to Rangers
jeffers
08-07-2020, 04:41 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-defender-tom-james-told-first-team-opportunities-hibs-will-be-limited-next-season-2908032
Tom James basically been told to find a new club.
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/florian-kamberi-hibs-transfer-rangers-18565150.amp?__twitter_impression=true
Kamberi to reject a loan move to Rangers
To think we paid a fee for James as well.
Robbo6-2
08-07-2020, 04:44 PM
To think we paid a fee for James as well.
He was out of contract at Yeovil
jeffers
08-07-2020, 04:47 PM
He was out of contract at Yeovil
According to the BBC report at the time there was an undisclosed fee:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48760941
B.H.F.C
08-07-2020, 04:51 PM
Hopefully Kamberi is away soon. Given the way Ross spoke yesterday, he didn’t really try to be diplomatic about it the way managers normally are, then you’d like to think that they have a fair idea something will be happening soon.
For players coming in, if we’re assuming that isn’t happening until consultation is finished, when is the 30 days up on that?
Billy Whizz
08-07-2020, 04:54 PM
Hopefully Kamberi is away soon. Given the way Ross spoke yesterday, he didn’t really try to be diplomatic about it the way managers normally are, then you’d like to think that they have a fair idea something will be happening soon.
For players coming in, if we’re assuming that isn’t happening until consultation is finished, when is the 30 days up on that?
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10650
This is dated 15th June, so should be next week sometime
Hope as many staff as possible retain their jobs
eastmainsmsh
08-07-2020, 05:00 PM
West brom and Celtic were interested in Tom James and quoted 1.5 million at one time is that the English transfer market or have we not seen what he can do
Smartie
08-07-2020, 05:06 PM
West brom and Celtic were interested in Tom James and quoted 1.5 million at one time is that the English transfer market or have we not seen what he can do
If he can play football then we’re yet to see it.
He’s never a full back and if he’s a player at all, it’s not obvious what exactly he is.
04Sauzee
08-07-2020, 05:19 PM
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mvteng
08-07-2020, 05:19 PM
Jack Fitzwater who was in Edinburgh has signed for Livingston 😁 so there was some truth in it
Livingston also sign Matej Poplatnik
Yep- he was up to do a deal.
04Sauzee
08-07-2020, 05:58 PM
Not a Hibs Rumour but been told Brandon Barker is on his way out of Rangers, not a huge surprise
GreenCastle
08-07-2020, 06:06 PM
I see Neilson’s 2 assistants, Lee McCulloch and Gordon Forrest have “walked“ out on their roles at Dundee Utd
Wonder where they are going...
Having seen McCulloch coach...he’s useless.
No idea about the other guy.
badabing67
08-07-2020, 06:10 PM
The problem is that they are not showing signs that they really want him.
If they punt Morelos they might be more keen.
I'm not sure what the UEFA rules are for the start up can they only use the players they had registered in January. If that is the case they will need him for the Europa Cup tie
badabing67
08-07-2020, 06:17 PM
Not a Hibs Rumour but been told Brandon Barker is on his way out of Rangers, not a huge surprise
Would like to see him come back
HendoDelivered
08-07-2020, 06:22 PM
Would like to see him come back
His knee problems are a bit concerning so I would probably stay clear. Class player when fully fit though.
Greenworld
08-07-2020, 06:26 PM
Would like to see him come backNot for me always injured
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Billy Whizz
08-07-2020, 06:27 PM
Not a Hibs Rumour but been told Brandon Barker is on his way out of Rangers, not a huge surprise
No idea why they bought him last season
They’ve got Kent and Jones, who play in the same position
Gaffer1875
08-07-2020, 06:55 PM
No idea why they bought him last season
They’ve got Kent and Jones, who play in the same position
Add Murphy to that list too
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Green Manalishi
08-07-2020, 07:30 PM
Im hearing rumours of a permanent swap deal with Kamberi and Docherty
SteveHFC
08-07-2020, 07:31 PM
Im hearing rumours of a permanent swap deal with Kamberi and Docherty
:hyper
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