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JammyDoidger
18-06-2023, 11:22 PM
John McGinn would walk into any squad in world football I don't care what anyone says. The way ange plays he would suit spurs, or Liverpool he would start every week for either of them imo.
Boydyhfc
18-06-2023, 11:23 PM
Love mcginn but I’m still not sure he’s good enough consistently for a top four team down south.
Reckon they’d be aiming higher.
SJM would hold his own. There’s been some turd playing for the so called top 4 teams in recent years. He’d be influential.
Donegal Hibby
18-06-2023, 11:32 PM
Exclusive: Ex #SAFC boss Lee Johnson is a name admired by Nick Hammond. Zoom call took place yesterday with positive talks between the two parties. #LUFC
Posted by some “sports journalist intern” on Twitter. Doesn’t look like a fake account but not sure how accurate it is.
Hope this is a load of rubbish TBH . Would be a right backward step for the club if it's not !
gbhibby
18-06-2023, 11:35 PM
Love mcginn but I’m still not sure he’s good enough consistently for a top four team down south.
Reckon they’d be aiming higher.
It was a comment that this season Liverpool were not in the top four a bit tongue in cheek. SJM is good enough to play in a top four team. Just ask villa fans. Did anybody think Newcastle would be a top four team. He would be a starter in that team.
MWHIBBIES
19-06-2023, 04:11 AM
Again, not for me. Klopps Liverpool were and are a soft touch apart from one season
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Liverpool finished 2nd with 97 points, higher than any tally Ferguson's united or any team they competed against ever achieved. Soft touch my arse :faf:
McGruber
19-06-2023, 06:40 AM
We'll be bringing in a striker who will be our first pick. A Nisbet replacement so to speak. I'd put my mortgage on it. Le Fondre will be back up.
Yeah think so. I see it as Le Fondre being more of a McGeady replacement, like to see Mykola as Doidge replacement and going out and finding a replacement for Nisbet. Get those 2 signings right, along with a good attacking midfielder Magennis replacement and with Youan and Boyle in tow, we could have an exciting team next year.
Stuart93
19-06-2023, 07:24 AM
John McGinn would walk into any squad in world football I don't care what anyone says. The way ange plays he would suit spurs, or Liverpool he would start every week for either of them imo.
That’s not true at all.
If it was someone would’ve already paid big money for him from villa but they haven’t.
I love SJM and he’s a brilliant player but I reckon bias clouds many’s judgement on how good he is in the premier league.
Brightside
19-06-2023, 07:38 AM
You should start your posts with "I'm speculating" instead of "I think" and change "fully expect" to "I hope" .
Otherwise people will think that you know something.
I don’t need to do that at all. I think it’s logical that’s the type of player we will targeting. If people add more to anything I post that all in their head. I am in no way ITK. Just so we are very clear on that.
patlowe
19-06-2023, 07:59 AM
It was a comment that this season Liverpool were not in the top four a bit tongue in cheek. SJM is good enough to play in a top four team. Just ask villa fans. Did anybody think Newcastle would be a top four team. He would be a starter in that team.
As far as I could see, the last year or so before Emre came in the Villa fans thought SJM was rotten and a shadow of the guy who was so influential in getting them up. His form has been brilliant these past few months but I don't think Villa fans would say he should be playing at a higher level by any means - read lots of them saying he is a legend but they probably need better to compete in the higher echelons of the league.
That's not me criticising SJM by the way - I love him and have so much admiration for the way he meets new challenges and levels head on. A real talisman for Scotland and the kind of character anyone would want in their squad.
Paulie Walnuts
19-06-2023, 08:00 AM
I don’t need to do that at all. I think it’s logical that’s the type of player we will targeting. If people add more to anything I post that all in their head. I am in no way ITK. Just so we are very clear on that.
:agree:
ChuckNor
19-06-2023, 09:02 AM
Very speculative one, but someone has mentioned Rowan Macdonald (previously at Man City) is being looked at by Hibs. I work in media (not sport and not in Scotland) so sometimes hear bits of gossip - not always true though!
Paulie Walnuts
19-06-2023, 09:08 AM
Very speculative one, but someone has mentioned Rowan Macdonald (previously at Man City) is being looked at by Hibs. I work in media (not sport and not in Scotland) so sometimes hear bits of gossip - not always true though!
Missed nearly the last 3 years of football through injury. Sounds about right :greengrin
The Modfather
19-06-2023, 09:23 AM
Missed nearly the last 3 years of football through injury. Sounds about right :greengrin
Magennis’ replacemrnt.
Since452
19-06-2023, 09:51 AM
Nah not for me, Fergusons United were up against much more competitive opposition in a much more even playing field. All subjective anyway [emoji16]
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Different eras to be fair. This Man City team would destroy Fergusons Man United. Sports science, diet, training and tactics have moved on from those days. Its all relative though, different eras like i said.
WillowbraeHibby
19-06-2023, 09:53 AM
Magennis’ replacemrnt.
:tee hee:
Paulie Walnuts
19-06-2023, 09:59 AM
Nah not for me, Fergusons United were up against much more competitive opposition in a much more even playing field. All subjective anyway [emoji16]
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There’s been 6 English sides out of 10 over the last 5 seasons reached the Champions League final. 3 from 10 over the last 5 seasons in the Europa as well. That’s unprecedented.
If the competition aren’t competitive enough that’s because Man City are so good rather than a lack of quality from them imo.
I reckon they’re better than any EPL side ever.
Brightside
19-06-2023, 10:01 AM
Just for discussion - How would you feel if Myko was the main signing and the new no9.
Silky
19-06-2023, 10:05 AM
Just for discussion - How would you feel if Myko was the main signing and the new no9.
Wouldn't be unhappy. There are worse strikers out there. I liked him, I thought he had something about him.
weecounty hibby
19-06-2023, 10:06 AM
Just for discussion - How would you feel if Myko was the main signing and the new no9.
I would be more than ok with that. I think he looked like a very good player when available. Hopefully for us and him that his injuries were a one off
Paulie Walnuts
19-06-2023, 10:06 AM
Just for discussion - How would you feel if Myko was the main signing and the new no9.
Underwhelmed and concerned.
He’s a good player, doubt about that. If our main signing is a guy who spent a hell of a lot of time out injured last season though then I’ve not got a huge amount of hope we’ll be any better next season
04Sauzee
19-06-2023, 10:06 AM
Just for discussion - How would you feel if Myko was the main signing and the new no9.
I guess that all depends on what out other forward options are?
We know the below will be involved
Boyle
Youan
Alf
Question marks over the likes of
Melkersen
Mckirdy
Tavares
WeeRussell
19-06-2023, 10:07 AM
There’s been 6 English sides out of 10 over the last 5 seasons reached the Champions League final. That’s unprecedented.
Is it? Not that long since Spain had 7 in the same time frame but actually produced the winners in each too.
Paulie Walnuts
19-06-2023, 10:09 AM
Is it? Not that long since Spain had 7 in the same time frame but actually produced the winners in each too.
Sorry, I meant unprecedented for English sides. English sides are more competitive than ever in Europe which wouldn’t suggest a lack of quality.
Stuart93
19-06-2023, 10:10 AM
Just for discussion - How would you feel if Myko was the main signing and the new no9.
He’s a good striker and a goalscorer no doubt…but we’d bribing a player back in that spent a lot/if not most of his time injured with us
Very risky
Since452
19-06-2023, 10:12 AM
Yeah think so. I see it as Le Fondre being more of a McGeady replacement, like to see Mykola as Doidge replacement and going out and finding a replacement for Nisbet. Get those 2 signings right, along with a good attacking midfielder Magennis replacement and with Youan and Boyle in tow, we could have an exciting team next year.
I really hope we sign Mykola. Really rate the lad.
Hibbyradge
19-06-2023, 10:12 AM
Just for discussion - How would you feel if Myko was the main signing and the new no9.
Delighted.
WeeRussell
19-06-2023, 10:12 AM
Sorry, I meant unprecedented for English sides. English sides are more competitive than ever in Europe which wouldn’t suggest a lack of quality.
Ah I see - can’t disagree there 👍
SickBoy32
19-06-2023, 10:13 AM
Sorry, I meant unprecedented for English sides. English sides are more competitive than ever in Europe which wouldn’t suggest a lack of quality.
Just a consequence of the monster that is Sky TV money surely? English sides have now been receiving significantly more cash than comparable European sides for decades, no wonder they're performing better in Europe.
By the same token - City Liverpool getting these huge points totals in the league, again this just a consequence of the wealth being concentrated at the top IMO. Can see it all round Europe too with leagues becoming less and less competitive
CapitalGreen
19-06-2023, 10:14 AM
Just for discussion - How would you feel if Myko was the main signing and the new no9.
Would easily be one of the best strikers outside Glasgow but that’s meaningless if he’s not available to play. A bang average striker who is available 38 games a season is more valuable than a good striker who is only available for a third of that.
Since452
19-06-2023, 10:15 AM
Just for discussion - How would you feel if Myko was the main signing and the new no9.
Delighted. Over the moon if it was a permanent deal. I don't think we'd make our main striker a loan player though which makes me think we'll sign someone else.
neil7908
19-06-2023, 10:17 AM
Just for discussion - How would you feel if Myko was the main signing and the new no9.
As long as he's put through a thorough medical I'd be delighted.
I think he's a cracking player and we need more of a target man to get the best out of Youan and Boyle. He fits that bill but injuries are a real worry. The advantage we have is that the medical team have had him for a season, so will surely have a very good understanding of his issues and how likely they are to reoccur.
Of course anything can happen but you have to presume that we'll only go for him on a permanent deal if we are sure none of his injury problems are chronic.
04Sauzee
19-06-2023, 10:19 AM
A fair few unwanted Chelsea players finding their way to the Saudi league
Paulie Walnuts
19-06-2023, 10:22 AM
As long as he's put through a thorough medical I'd be delighted.
I think he's a cracking player and we need more of a target man to get the best out of Youan and Boyle. He fits that bill but injuries are a real worry. The advantage we have is that the medical team have had him for a season, so will surely have a very good understanding of his issues and how likely they are to reoccur.
Of course anything can happen but you have to presume that we'll only go for him on a permanent deal if we are sure none of his injury problems are chronic.
Given our injury history i’m not sure I’d trust our medical team to make that call. That would be my real concern here.
B.H.F.C
19-06-2023, 10:25 AM
Myko was another one of them who always seemed to be a couple of weeks away from fitness, getting as far as warming up on one occasion before having to be replaced in squad. Article I read a couple of weeks ago was on about being ‘hopeful’ of being recovered by the end of June. If that’s not the case you’re then missing big chunks of pre season, playing catch up and that makes it tough.
If it’s just down to ability then we sign him but I think it’s a risk based on what we’ve seen over last season. Too important a position with the sale of Nisbet, we have to be 100% confident with what we do.
Donegal Hibby
19-06-2023, 10:29 AM
Just for discussion - How would you feel if Myko was the main signing and the new no9.
I'd be happy with Mykola . Quality player.
Brightside
19-06-2023, 10:34 AM
Given our injury history i’m not sure I’d trust our medical team to make that call. That would be my real concern here.
Different medical team these days is it not?
Paulie Walnuts
19-06-2023, 10:39 AM
Different medical team these days is it not?
I’ve no idea. Great news if so.
Just for discussion - How would you feel if Myko was the main signing and the new no9.
Would be delighted. Yes he had injury issues but he might have been unlucky. When he played he had a 1 in 2 goals to games record. With ALF we would be in a good place up front.
Stuart93
19-06-2023, 10:50 AM
Would be delighted. Yes he had injury issues but he might have been unlucky. When he played he had a 1 in 2 goals to games record. With ALF we would be in a good place up front.
I think the only point people are arguing is where you say “might”. That’s the risk
WeeRussell
19-06-2023, 11:01 AM
I think we, as a support, have probably grown more ‘injury anxious’ after a couple of unlucky seasons made worse by not having the cover we might have had in the past.
Not that long since majority of posters were desperate for us to sign McGeough back who was as bad for being injured as nearly anyone we’ve had since.
Not many players go through their whole career without at least a season of issues, and if the quality is there with a sound medical, I’ve no problem at all.
Cocaine&Caviar
19-06-2023, 11:13 AM
Has McGeouch signed anywhere yet?
hhibs
19-06-2023, 11:15 AM
Given our injury history i’m not sure I’d trust our medical team to make that call. That would be my real concern here.
You make a good point,given the history of failures in identifying problems and potential problems with players I really hope changes in approach have been made.
SHODAN
19-06-2023, 11:21 AM
I don't want us signing any players with a recent record of long injury periods.
We have too many of them in our squad right now and can't afford more risk. That includes Kuharevich, sorry.
EGL2000
19-06-2023, 11:23 AM
Has McGeouch signed anywhere yet?
Nope, still without a club.
MWHIBBIES
19-06-2023, 11:24 AM
Just a consequence of the monster that is Sky TV money surely? English sides have now been receiving significantly more cash than comparable European sides for decades, no wonder they're performing better in Europe.
By the same token - City Liverpool getting these huge points totals in the league, again this just a consequence of the wealth being concentrated at the top IMO. Can see it all round Europe too with leagues becoming less and less competitive
It's not, though. The average prem team is comfortably better than 15 years ago. They have more money, are signing players for much bigger fees etc than before. Brighton offering Chelsea 40m for a defender. That didn't happen when Ferguson was in charge.
I don't want us signing any players with a recent record of long injury periods.
We have too many of them in our squad right now and can't afford more risk. That includes Kuharevich, sorry.
I suspect there's a thread like this on many supporters' boards. Certainly our Tiny neighbours made plenty of fuss about it throughout the season. Players get injured, it happens. I
SHODAN
19-06-2023, 11:32 AM
I suspect there's a thread like this on many supporters' boards. Certainly our Tiny neighbours made plenty of fuss about it throughout the season. Players get injured, it happens. I
I would argue that our last two seasons have been exceptional (and potentially Hearts' last, though not totally convinced) in terms of long-term injuries. I can't quite remember anything like this.
04Sauzee
19-06-2023, 11:59 AM
Found this link on twitter a nice wee list of ins and outs at each club
https://nareystoepoker.blogspot.com/p/all-spfl-transfers-summer-2023-window.html?m=1#PREMIERSHIP
badabing67
19-06-2023, 12:47 PM
Looks like Brenda's back then
A fair few unwanted Chelsea players finding their way to the Saudi league
And into oblivion
CapitalGreen
19-06-2023, 01:34 PM
I think we, as a support, have probably grown more ‘injury anxious’ after a couple of unlucky seasons made worse by not having the cover we might have had in the past.
Not that long since majority of posters were desperate for us to sign McGeough back who was as bad for being injured as nearly anyone we’ve had since.
Not many players go through their whole career without at least a season of issues, and if the quality is there with a sound medical, I’ve no problem at all.
McGeouch played 42 games in his final season, only missing 2 due to injury. If he’d had the season with injuries that Myko has just had then there would have been serious injury anxiety about signing him too.
JimBHibees
19-06-2023, 01:42 PM
And into oblivion
But very rich oblivion
WeeRussell
19-06-2023, 01:49 PM
McGeouch played 42 games in his final season, only missing 2 due to injury. If he’d had the season with injuries that Myko has just had then there would have been serious injury anxiety about signing him too.
👍 fair enough
Good example of not writing a player off because of a previous season (or more) of injuries then. Medical dependent of course..
Unseen work
19-06-2023, 02:31 PM
Anyone have an update on fish?
Seemed really positive but has went a bit quiet lately on it.
MrSmith
19-06-2023, 03:01 PM
Is Mcgennis still with us? McGeouch might be a good shout if KM isn't.
BoomtownHibees
19-06-2023, 03:05 PM
Is Mcgennis still with us? McGeouch might be a good shout if KM isn't.
They’re 2 completely different players
But very rich oblivion
True, but they are already rich, so it just feels a bit off to me, maybe I'm just jealous 🤔
NGoloGrantie
19-06-2023, 03:17 PM
https://twitter.com/concacafwonders/status/1670807811826016257?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g
We had this boy on trial not long ago so interest from spfl will be us I reckon. Surely we get first dibs on him as we have the affiliation thing with Charleston. Heard good things about him.
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HFC93
19-06-2023, 03:44 PM
Is Mcgennis still with us? McGeouch might be a good shout if KM isn't.
To keep the physio busy?
Brightside
19-06-2023, 03:45 PM
https://twitter.com/concacafwonders/status/1670807811826016257?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g
We had this boy on trial not long ago so interest from spfl will be us I reckon. Surely we get first dibs on him as we have the affiliation thing with Charleston. Heard good things about him.
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https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/charleston-battery-winger-fidel-barajas-speaks-on-hibs-experience-i-fit-in-there-3993088
Percy Vere
19-06-2023, 03:54 PM
Love mcginn but I’m still not sure he’s good enough consistently for a top four team down south.
Reckon they’d be aiming higher.
You’re having a laugh 😂
He is the complete package, a player who contributes consistently and adds that drive and enthusiasm that fans love.
You can’t underestimate the benefits that brings to the team/squad.
I reckon he’s a perfect fit for Liverpool.
badabing67
19-06-2023, 04:06 PM
Anyone have an update on fish?
Seemed really positive but has went a bit quiet lately on it.
i have been thinking about that. I have been following the How to Buy a Football Club (Manchester united) on BBC sounds.... They are saying that the Qatari bid is probably being the preferred option as it stands. So if the take over is imminent, I am not sure if this could effect transfers until the takeover is finalised. I think if we were trying to sign Fish on loan I don't see the take over having any real effect relating to business, but if we are trying to buy then it might have something to do with the current situation. Only thinking out loud though.
CapitalGreen
19-06-2023, 04:50 PM
https://twitter.com/concacafwonders/status/1670807811826016257?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g
We had this boy on trial not long ago so interest from spfl will be us I reckon. Surely we get first dibs on him as we have the affiliation thing with Charleston. Heard good things about him.
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If we did sign him, he couldn’t come to Scotland until next summer.
Torto7
19-06-2023, 04:55 PM
You’re having a laugh 😂
He is the complete package, a player who contributes consistently and adds that drive and enthusiasm that fans love.
You can’t underestimate the benefits that brings to the team/squad.
I reckon he’s a perfect fit for Liverpool.
Same top 4 that has gash like Kalvin Phillips, Xhaka, Fred and Henderson. How could Meatball compete with them.
MWHIBBIES
19-06-2023, 05:11 PM
Same top 4 that has gash like Kalvin Phillips, Xhaka, Fred and Henderson. How could Meatball compete with them.
Philips yes, nothing special, though was excellent for Leeds. Signed by Pep, himself a decent midfield player.
Xhaka is a better player than McGinn. Excellent for Arsenal last season. Wanted by Alonso at Leverkusen. He probably knows a bit about midfielders.
Henderson is a European cup and premier league winning captain. Past it now, at his best a top player, McGinn never reached that level.
Fred quite a decent player, regular for Brazil. McGinn probably better.
McGinn is at his level. Better players out there for less money than he would cost. Been reading on here for years that McGinn walks into the big 6 sides. Never has a bid been made. Maybe time to accept what is staring us in the face. More bids have been made for his teammate, Luiz.
Stuart93
19-06-2023, 05:14 PM
You’re having a laugh 😂
He is the complete package, a player who contributes consistently and adds that drive and enthusiasm that fans love.
You can’t underestimate the benefits that brings to the team/squad.
I reckon he’s a perfect fit for Liverpool.
I’m not having a laugh.
I doubt he’ll sign for a “top 4” club
Stuart93
19-06-2023, 05:16 PM
Same top 4 that has gash like Kalvin Phillips, Xhaka, Fred and Henderson. How could Meatball compete with them.
Mental you’ve named 3/4 midfielders who’re better than mcginn
As I said, we all have a lot of bias towards him and that’s fair enough, but if he was a better level than he currently is, he’d already be there
Lendo
19-06-2023, 05:26 PM
Marciano away back to Isreal. Signed for Hapoel Beer-Sheva
Donegal Hibby
19-06-2023, 05:59 PM
Jamie McGrath in Ireland team for Gibraltar match . Still think he wouldn't be a bad signing if we could swap Henderson for him .
King Cosell
19-06-2023, 06:30 PM
Jamie Murphy signs for Ayr Utd on a 2-year deal.
K-Zazu
19-06-2023, 06:40 PM
Jamie McGrath in Ireland team for Gibraltar match . Still think he wouldn't be a bad signing if we could swap Henderson for him .
Who would want Henderson?
Billy Whizz
19-06-2023, 06:43 PM
Who would want Henderson?
Wigan/Maloney wanted him in January
CapitalGreen
19-06-2023, 06:48 PM
Jamie McGrath in Ireland team for Gibraltar match . Still think he wouldn't be a bad signing if we could swap Henderson for him .
McGrath would command a salary which is likely multiples of what Henderson is on, it would hardly be a straight swap.
Since90+2
19-06-2023, 06:55 PM
McGrath would command a salary which is likely multiples of what Henderson is on, it would hardly be a straight swap.
I doubt that. Henderson was probably on similar at Celtic what McGrath was on at Dundee United.
We've no way knowing for certain, but I'd be very dubious he'd command atleast three times more than Henderson.
CapitalGreen
19-06-2023, 06:59 PM
I doubt that. Henderson was probably on similar at Celtic what McGrath was on at Dundee United.
We've no way knowing for certain, but I'd be very dubious he'd command atleast three times more than Henderson.
McGrath wasn’t paid by Dun Utd, he was on loan from Wigan.
Unseen work
19-06-2023, 07:01 PM
I doubt that. Henderson was probably on similar at Celtic what McGrath was on at Dundee United.
We've no way knowing for certain, but I'd be very dubious he'd command atleast three times more than Henderson.
No danger.
McGrath is contracted to Wigan who signed him from St Mirren as an Ireland international and had multiple clubs in for him.
Henderson was Celtic b team essentially, a couple of appearances for them and some fairly unsuccessful loans at Dunfermline and Ross county.
McGrath would be on way more at United/Wigan than Henderson was on at Celtic.
Now Henderson is at us it’s probably bumped up a bit but I still think we’d be paying st least an extra 1-2k per week for McGrath
Billy Whizz
19-06-2023, 07:31 PM
McGrath wasn’t paid by Dun Utd, he was on loan from Wigan.
Wigan and other Championship teams pay ridiculous money
Think I read somewhere over the weekend that the ave Championship wages to turnover was around 110%
CapitalGreen
19-06-2023, 07:48 PM
Wigan and other Championship teams pay ridiculous money
Think I read somewhere over the weekend that the ave Championship wages to turnover was around 110%
Wigan wages/turnover ratio was 156% according to The Athletic, no wonder they nearly went under.
makaveli1875
19-06-2023, 07:59 PM
Philips yes, nothing special, though was excellent for Leeds. Signed by Pep, himself a decent midfield player.
Xhaka is a better player than McGinn. Excellent for Arsenal last season. Wanted by Alonso at Leverkusen. He probably knows a bit about midfielders.
Henderson is a European cup and premier league winning captain. Past it now, at his best a top player, McGinn never reached that level.
Fred quite a decent player, regular for Brazil. McGinn probably better.
McGinn is at his level. Better players out there for less money than he would cost. Been reading on here for years that McGinn walks into the big 6 sides. Never has a bid been made. Maybe time to accept what is staring us in the face. More bids have been made for his teammate, Luiz.
Mcginn is better than Zidane, never mind xhaka
Brightside
19-06-2023, 08:20 PM
Same top 4 that has gash like Kalvin Phillips, Xhaka, Fred and Henderson. How could Meatball compete with them.
You’ve just named 4 excellent players.
Unseen work
19-06-2023, 08:33 PM
https://twitter.com/thegavman23?s=21&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw
Most likely a fake account given the amount of followers/rumours he’s chucking out there.
But he’s saying weirder Bremner interested in Boyle and that we’re interested in Thierry Small (would 100% take tbf).
Imagine it’s nonsense though
Edit - he also said yesterday that Small was going to spurs 🤣
Callum_62
19-06-2023, 08:35 PM
https://twitter.com/thegavman23?s=21&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw
Most likely a fake account given the amount of followers/rumours he’s chucking out there.
But he’s saying weirder Bremner interested in Boyle and that we’re interested in Thierry Small (would 100% take tbf).
Imagine it’s nonsense though
Edit - he also said yesterday that Small was going to spurs [emoji1787]Was that the St Mirren left back who got sent off with 2 bookings in 30 seconds?
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Callum_62
19-06-2023, 08:35 PM
Stefan Johansen leaves QPR
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ErinGoBraghHFC
19-06-2023, 08:36 PM
https://twitter.com/thegavman23?s=21&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw
Most likely a fake account given the amount of followers/rumours he’s chucking out there.
But he’s saying weirder Bremner interested in Boyle and that we’re interested in Thierry Small (would 100% take tbf).
Imagine it’s nonsense though
Edit - he also said yesterday that Small was going to spurs [emoji1787]
Weirder Bremner? Billy’s inbred cousin or something?
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04Sauzee
19-06-2023, 08:45 PM
https://twitter.com/thegavman23?s=21&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw
Most likely a fake account given the amount of followers/rumours he’s chucking out there.
But he’s saying weirder Bremner interested in Boyle and that we’re interested in Thierry Small (would 100% take tbf).
Imagine it’s nonsense though
Edit - he also said yesterday that Small was going to spurs 🤣
Also has Jackson Irvine going to Nottingham Forest 😂
I think I know where we can file this rumour 😁
ErinGoBraghHFC
19-06-2023, 09:06 PM
Also has Jackson Irvine going to Nottingham Forest [emoji23]
I think I know where we can file this rumour [emoji16]
Jackson Irvine will be at the Braun-Weiss for some time yet I hope [emoji2526]
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Unseen work
19-06-2023, 09:59 PM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/hearts-battle-hibs-morgan-feeney-30273977
Us and hearts after Feeney
Not based on anything other than opinion, but if we get him I can’t see fish coming back. Almost feel like he’d be second choice to Fish. Could be miles off it though.
Stuart93
19-06-2023, 10:00 PM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/hearts-battle-hibs-morgan-feeney-30273977
Us and hearts after Feeney
Daily record/the sun are getting a bit boring now
Unseen work
19-06-2023, 10:03 PM
Daily record/the sun are getting a bit boring now
In what way? Just chucking Hibs, Hearts and aberdeens names against every player?🤣
cameronw-hfc
19-06-2023, 10:41 PM
Mental you’ve named 3/4 midfielders who’re better than mcginn
As I said, we all have a lot of bias towards him and that’s fair enough, but if he was a better level than he currently is, he’d already be there
Mcginn went through 12-18 months of absolutely horrific form for Villa. That probably stopped any chance of a move, it wasn't all om Slippy either. He came back from his ankle injury and just never hit the same form again, then it seemed to drop off a cliff under Smith, Gerrard, instead of giving him a break like everyone thought he needed, doubled down and made him captian and the Villa fans response to that at the time probably told the story.
He missed the first few games under emery due to injury but it done him the world of good. He had a break from the spotlight and abuse and came back the Mcginn we all know. He's also been played as a right winger a lot recently which strangely he seems to suit.
I think his age probably stops any chances of a huge money move now, although he'll go down a Villa legend and when alls said and done I doubt many will remember his poor form for a while. He joined the club in turmoil in the champ, and was the captian that helped take them back to Europe. I also think John loves Villa and it would take a seriously lucrative move to tempt him away now, and I'm not sure that's happening in his late twenties.
Without the dip in form I do think Villa would have cashed in before now, as that was the model for a while, but Villa are now not looking to sell and rather improve on what they have, making the Mcginn situation a lot more unlikely even if he would be a useful squad player for most of the big 6.
Stuart93
20-06-2023, 04:49 AM
In what way? Just chucking Hibs, Hearts and aberdeens names against every player?🤣
Aye basically. Utter laziness
JimBHibees
20-06-2023, 05:49 AM
Mcginn went through 12-18 months of absolutely horrific form for Villa. That probably stopped any chance of a move, it wasn't all om Slippy either. He came back from his ankle injury and just never hit the same form again, then it seemed to drop off a cliff under Smith, Gerrard, instead of giving him a break like everyone thought he needed, doubled down and made him captian and the Villa fans response to that at the time probably told the story.
He missed the first few games under emery due to injury but it done him the world of good. He had a break from the spotlight and abuse and came back the Mcginn we all know. He's also been played as a right winger a lot recently which strangely he seems to suit.
I think his age probably stops any chances of a huge money move now, although he'll go down a Villa legend and when alls said and done I doubt many will remember his poor form for a while. He joined the club in turmoil in the champ, and was the captian that helped take them back to Europe. I also think John loves Villa and it would take a seriously lucrative move to tempt him away now, and I'm not sure that's happening in his late twenties.
Without the dip in form I do think Villa would have cashed in before now, as that was the model for a while, but Villa are now not looking to sell and rather improve on what they have, making the Mcginn situation a lot more unlikely even if he would be a useful squad player for most of the big 6.
Absolutely horrific and 18 months seems a bit of a stretch. If absolutely horrific wouldn't have been starting as many games if any as he did.
SquashedFrogg
20-06-2023, 05:51 AM
Mcginn went through 12-18 months of absolutely horrific form for Villa. That probably stopped any chance of a move, it wasn't all om Slippy either. He came back from his ankle injury and just never hit the same form again, then it seemed to drop off a cliff under Smith, Gerrard, instead of giving him a break like everyone thought he needed, doubled down and made him captian and the Villa fans response to that at the time probably told the story.
He missed the first few games under emery due to injury but it done him the world of good. He had a break from the spotlight and abuse and came back the Mcginn we all know. He's also been played as a right winger a lot recently which strangely he seems to suit.
I think his age probably stops any chances of a huge money move now, although he'll go down a Villa legend and when alls said and done I doubt many will remember his poor form for a while. He joined the club in turmoil in the champ, and was the captian that helped take them back to Europe. I also think John loves Villa and it would take a seriously lucrative move to tempt him away now, and I'm not sure that's happening in his late twenties.
Without the dip in form I do think Villa would have cashed in before now, as that was the model for a while, but Villa are now not looking to sell and rather improve on what they have, making the Mcginn situation a lot more unlikely even if he would be a useful squad player for most of the big 6.
Your first sentence is absolute nonsense. 18 months of horrific form? A season and a half playing horrifically in the EPL?
Think about it.
Nicho87
20-06-2023, 06:58 AM
I actually believe it’s lazy journalism but I think it’s about percentages.
If your Aberdeen hearts or hibs if you get wind from an agent that they’re potentially about to sign for one of them I think all clubs / managers would decide quickly if it’s worth chucking their club in the mix to try and gazump their opponent, we’re roughly paying the same wages, roughly.
Agents will be promoting them to the upper clubs in Scotland and we’ve seen it happen a good few times.
Sibbick, ojo, mcrrorie going back to Stephen Adam.
Always the way. But for Naismith cause he’s not a qualified coach I bet he is just on football manager every night researching.
Paulie Walnuts
20-06-2023, 07:25 AM
Your first sentence is absolute nonsense. 18 months of horrific form? A season and a half playing horrifically in the EPL?
Think about it.
:agree:
He wasn’t horrific for 18 months. Nowhere near it.
Winston Ingram
20-06-2023, 07:48 AM
Mcginn went through 12-18 months of absolutely horrific form for Villa. That probably stopped any chance of a move, it wasn't all om Slippy either. He came back from his ankle injury and just never hit the same form again, then it seemed to drop off a cliff under Smith, Gerrard, instead of giving him a break like everyone thought he needed, doubled down and made him captian and the Villa fans response to that at the time probably told the story.
He missed the first few games under emery due to injury but it done him the world of good. He had a break from the spotlight and abuse and came back the Mcginn we all know. He's also been played as a right winger a lot recently which strangely he seems to suit.
I think his age probably stops any chances of a huge money move now, although he'll go down a Villa legend and when alls said and done I doubt many will remember his poor form for a while. He joined the club in turmoil in the champ, and was the captian that helped take them back to Europe. I also think John loves Villa and it would take a seriously lucrative move to tempt him away now, and I'm not sure that's happening in his late twenties.
Without the dip in form I do think Villa would have cashed in before now, as that was the model for a while, but Villa are now not looking to sell and rather improve on what they have, making the Mcginn situation a lot more unlikely even if he would be a useful squad player for most of the big 6.
That's utter nonsense. You're luck if it was 3
MagicSwirlingShip
20-06-2023, 07:50 AM
Absolutely horrific form 🤣 12-18 months…
Another worldly from a resident expert
Heisenberg
20-06-2023, 07:51 AM
I can’t see us wanting Feeney if Fish is coming back.
Brightside
20-06-2023, 08:09 AM
I can’t see us wanting Feeney if Fish is coming back.
Agreed. But be prepared for "Hibs lose out to Hearts"
I can’t see us wanting Feeney if Fish is coming back.
I dunno like with CJ and devlin also away we could do with 2 CB’s coming in IMO that would give us Hanlon Rocky fish and feeney
blackpoolhibs
20-06-2023, 08:25 AM
Why has happened to Fitzwater, i read here that he'd signed?
Callum_62
20-06-2023, 08:28 AM
Why has happened to Fitzwater, i read here that he'd signed?
hear Aberdeen and Hearts have beaten us to his signature
blackpoolhibs
20-06-2023, 08:29 AM
hear Aberdeen and Hearts have beaten us to his signature
:greengrin
McGruber
20-06-2023, 08:29 AM
I can’t see us wanting Feeney if Fish is coming back.
We need 4 first team centre backs so could well be after both
MWHIBBIES
20-06-2023, 08:30 AM
Absolutely horrific form 🤣 12-18 months…
Another worldly from a resident expert
The guy watches Villa every week tbf. He knows more than everyone who has replied to him.
JohnM1875
20-06-2023, 08:31 AM
The guy watches Villa every week tbf. He knows more than everyone who has replied to him.
Some folk on here watch every Hibs game.
Springbank
20-06-2023, 08:46 AM
I'll tell you where I'm at on the John McGann discussion above.
If my team is running out at Tynecastle in a Scottish Cup 5th round game in 2016, the following happens:
1) John McGinn - the guy is a Talisman, wherever he goes. We're going through and winning this cup.
2) Granit Xhaka - red card, first half, plenty talent but lets the team down at the very moment it counts
3) Fred - loses the midfield battle, file under "cannot rely on him"
4) Henderson - would relish that situation tbf but give me McGinn every day
Just my 2p
And fwiw McGinn and Tierney are absolutely the right characters for Newcastle's ongoing growth, development & connection with the fans in the stand
JimBHibees
20-06-2023, 09:32 AM
The guy watches Villa every week tbf. He knows more than everyone who has replied to him.
He simply wouldn't be starting for any team if he was absolutely horrific for 18 months never mind being a regular and captain. Pretty sure his form dipped for a spell which looked like he was carrying an injury at some points however absolutely horrific for 18 months is definitely an extreme critique I would imagine.
MWHIBBIES
20-06-2023, 09:33 AM
I'll tell you where I'm at on the John McGann discussion above.
If my team is running out at Tynecastle in a Scottish Cup 5th round game in 2016, the following happens:
1) John McGinn - the guy is a Talisman, wherever he goes. We're going through and winning this cup.
2) Granit Xhaka - red card, first half, plenty talent but lets the team down at the very moment it counts
3) Fred - loses the midfield battle, file under "cannot rely on him"
4) Henderson - would relish that situation tbf but give me McGinn every day
Just my 2p
And fwiw McGinn and Tierney are absolutely the right characters for Newcastle's ongoing growth, development & connection with the fans in the stand
Nothing biased in this post whatsoever.
Desperately hope he doesn't become the front of a sportswashing club. Newcastle will get better for cheaper anyway tbh, like Bruno G.
Brightside
20-06-2023, 09:38 AM
Some folk on here watch every Hibs game.
:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin
badabing67
20-06-2023, 09:45 AM
I'll tell you where I'm at on the John McGann discussion above.
If my team is running out at Tynecastle in a Scottish Cup 5th round game in 2016, the following happens:
1) John McGinn - the guy is a Talisman, wherever he goes. We're going through and winning this cup.
2) Granit Xhaka - red card, first half, plenty talent but lets the team down at the very moment it counts
3) Fred - loses the midfield battle, file under "cannot rely on him"
4) Henderson - would relish that situation tbf but give me McGinn every day
Just my 2p
And fwiw McGinn and Tierney are absolutely the right characters for Newcastle's ongoing growth, development & connection with the fans in the stand
I thought it was Tierney and McTominay that were linked to Newcastle. I think they have also been linked to Maddison
BILLYHIBS
20-06-2023, 09:54 AM
Chelsea sign Nkunku from RB Leipzig
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Agreed. But be prepared for "Hibs lose out to Hearts"
That’s just the standard from them though, even if we weren’t in for that player.
The media do love a gorgie and Dons love in!
NGoloGrantie
20-06-2023, 10:11 AM
https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1671097220119027713?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g
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EGL2000
20-06-2023, 10:13 AM
Trying to get in young Polish GK Max Boruc, cousin of Artur Boruc. Looks more of a development signing no first team games for Slask Wroclaw.
Brightside
20-06-2023, 10:21 AM
Trying to get in young Polish GK Max Boruc, cousin of Artur Boruc. Looks more of a development signing no first team games for Slask Wroclaw.
Did we not look at him last season too?
Donegal Hibby
20-06-2023, 10:30 AM
I dunno like with CJ and devlin also away we could do with 2 CB’s coming in IMO that would give us Hanlon Rocky fish and feeney
CJ was more suited to the RB position imo . I would be surprised if we took in both Fish and Feeney who I think normally just play CB. CJ was brilliant to have as he could play CB , RB or DM . I thought we might sign Fish and maybe take in somebody like CJ that could cover a few positions TBH .
Donegal Hibby
20-06-2023, 10:36 AM
https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1671097220119027713?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g
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Had him over on trial awhile ago .
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hibs-hand-artur-borucs-cousin-29562564
NAE NOOKIE
20-06-2023, 10:47 AM
I thought it was Tierney and McTominay that were linked to Newcastle. I think they have also been linked to Maddison
No way Tierney and McTominay are going to Maddison ... USL League 1, no chance.
badabing67
20-06-2023, 10:51 AM
No way Tierney and McTominay are going to Maddison ... USL League 1, no chance.
I meant Newcastle have been linked to Maddison at Leicester City
badabing67
20-06-2023, 10:53 AM
Quick quiz for anybody who's interested I got 7/12
Quiz: Can you name all England's hat-trick heroes since 1990? - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65957562)
Onceinawhile
20-06-2023, 11:13 AM
Chelsea sign Nkunku from RB Leipzig
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How do you think that's pronounced?
I presumed N Kunku until someone pointed out, that it is equally as likely to be Nku Nku
Bayern Bru
20-06-2023, 11:16 AM
How do you think that's pronounced?
I presumed N Kunku until someone pointed out, that it is equally as likely to be Nku Nku
It's pronounced ing KOON koo, with the stress on the middle syllable
ChilliEater
20-06-2023, 11:21 AM
Quick quiz for anybody who's interested I got 7/12
Quiz: Can you name all England's hat-trick heroes since 1990? - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65957562)
9/12
Unseen work
20-06-2023, 11:32 AM
You’d imagine Boruc is a cheap ish option to play for the development team/back up to first team.
Carter is away and Johnson out on loan so we needed another goalie around that age. I imagine that was the plan so Johnson could go out and play games.
Still hope another goalie comes in to properly challenge Marshall.
easty
20-06-2023, 11:34 AM
9/12
Same.
NAE NOOKIE
20-06-2023, 11:48 AM
I meant Newcastle have been linked to Maddison at Leicester City
I know mate :greengrin
badabing67
20-06-2023, 11:54 AM
I know mate :greengrin
Time waster :agree:
Donegal Hibby
20-06-2023, 12:08 PM
You’d imagine Boruc is a cheap ish option to play for the development team/back up to first team.
Carter is away and Johnson out on loan so we needed another goalie around that age. I imagine that was the plan so Johnson could go out and play games.
Still hope another goalie comes in to properly challenge Marshall.
Article I read on the keeper said his club wouldn't be hard to deal with though would demand a sell on clause.
Sorry if already mentioned . Clubs in America, Germany , Mexico and Scotland looking at 17 year old winger 'Fidel Barajas ' . We had him on a training stint for awhile from Charleston Battery .
Some footage of the keeper though not very clear .
https://youtu.be/5f-Qj7aSwKA
cameronw-hfc
20-06-2023, 12:22 PM
Your first sentence is absolute nonsense. 18 months of horrific form? A season and a half playing horrifically in the EPL?
Think about it.
Nope. It was 12-18 months of pretty horrible form. I watch Villa weekly, I love John, I'm just not looking at it with green tinted specs.
There's a reason the abuse towards him got toxic and it wasn't because he struggled for a few months. It was a prolo ged period of awful form that lasted 2 different managers.
Some on here just get their backs up when anyone doesn't treat John like a god. I love him as much as anyone else, but he was dreadful for ages. Him not being dropped was part of why he got so much abuse for a while, it was confusing everyone why he had been so poor for so long yet played every single game.
He was by his own admission awful for a while.
And btw, I'm being nice by saying 18 months. The Villa pod inlisten to mentioned it the other day and said 'he was poor for 2 years so to see him back to his usual is refreshing'.
It when he came back started from his ankle injury the season Villa came up, it ended with emery. That's a long, long time.
In case you need more proof, here's some tweets from other Villa fans talking about Mcginn being crap before this season
https://twitter.com/catrinavfc/status/1587777806745886720?t=xvDb53dLZP7joYPq-fbGEw&s=19
https://twitter.com/jakey_oung/status/1587782720020746241?t=Gc_uKx59ymW1AoM8m096VQ&s=19
https://twitter.com/jake_kingsnorth/status/1587617467987263488?t=Vuugs5cAOxABdUnxxOYeyw&s=19
https://twitter.com/T2Mardybum/status/1576602561099886592?t=0Gk2zc98iNffYVjnxsWLOg&s=19
By no means am I saying he's a bad player, or showing these to insinuate so, it's to show how clouded most are on him. To Hibs fans, he can do no wrong. To Villa fans, the ones that watched him weekly, he was miles off it for ages.
It's actually a testament to his ability that he overcame it and became a valuable player yet again. He's a great player who went through a really poor spell, but to deny he went rhrough a prolonged spell is just bias/not wanting to admit it. To Villa fans it felt like they were the only ones who noticed as the media didn't say anything at all.
There's also a reason there was quite the uproar when he was named captian, and its not because he had been playing well in the build up to it.
GreenGray
20-06-2023, 12:30 PM
Nope. It was 12-18 months of pretty horrible form. I watch Villa weekly, I love John, I'm just not looking at it with green tinted specs.
There's a reason the abuse towards him got toxic and it wasn't because he struggled for a few months. It was a prolo ged period of awful form that lasted 2 different managers.
Some on here just get their backs up when anyone doesn't treat John like a god. I love him as much as anyone else, but he was dreadful for ages. Him not being dropped was part of why he got so much abuse for a while, it was confusing everyone why he had been so poor for so long yet played every single game.
He was by his own admission awful for a while.
And btw, I'm being nice by saying 18 months. The Villa pod inlisten to mentioned it the other day and said 'he was poor for 2 years so to see him back to his usual is refreshing'.
It when he came back started from his ankle injury the season Villa came up, it ended with emery. That's a long, long time.
His form rarely ever dipped for Scotland? Was he not played out of position at Villa for a long time?
Surprised to see people doubt his quality.
cameronw-hfc
20-06-2023, 12:37 PM
His form rarely ever dipped for Scotland? Was he not played out of position at Villa for a long time?
Surprised to see people doubt his quality.
No, another myth. Villa fans couldn't understand why he went away with Scotland and was like the old Mcginn.
He played as a 6 and an 8 at Villa during his form under 2 managers, he regained his form as a right winger, so the position thing is a myth. There's no excuses for it, his form simply just dropped. It's back now, but it wasn't due to position etc, he's played his whole Villa career before Emery as a 6/8, that's where he was when his form dropped. He went 40 something games without a goal.
GreenGray
20-06-2023, 12:40 PM
No, another myth. Villa fans couldn't understand why he went away with Scotland and was like the old Mcginn.
He played as a 6 and an 8 at Villa during his form under 2 managers, he regained his form as a right winger, so the position thing is a myth. There's no excuses for it, his form simply just dropped. It's back now, but it wasn't due to position etc, he's played his whole Villa career before Emery as a 6/8, that's where he was when his form dropped. He went 40 something games without a goal.
Because he played in his favoured position at Scotland? Almost off the striker.
Seem to remember a lot of Villa fans moaning during Gerrard's time that he was being played in wrong position, almost as a box to box.
cameronw-hfc
20-06-2023, 12:43 PM
Because he played in his favoured position at Scotland? Almost off the striker.
Seem to remember a lot of Villa fans moaning during Gerrard's time that he was being played in wrong position, almost as a box to box.
When's that ever been his best role? He's a centre mid, he's quite literally only ever played that role for Scotland. He's played his whole Villa career and Hibs as well btw as an 8 mainly sometimes as a 6. Villa tried him at 10 under Smith and he was no better.
As I said, the fact he hit form playing as a right winger should explain the position thing. It wasn't where he was played, it was simply just a bad run. Not sure why we need to find excuses, even the best players have poor spells, that's all I'm saying it was. A bad run.
GreenGray
20-06-2023, 12:47 PM
When's that ever been his best role? He's a centre mid, he's quite literally only ever played that role for Scotland. He's played his whole Villa career and Hibs as well btw as an 8 mainly sometimes as a 6. Villa tried him at 10 under Smith and he was no better.
As I said, the fact he hit form playing as a right winger should explain the position thing. It wasn't where he was played, it was simply just a bad run. Not sure why we need to find excuses, even the best players have poor spells, that's all I'm saying it was. A bad run.
You think he has only played as a centre mid for Scotland? Wow. Clarke loves playing him further forward behind the striker, it is where he gets a lot of his goals from.
ErinGoBraghHFC
20-06-2023, 12:49 PM
You think he has only played as a centre mid for Scotland? Wow. Clarke loves playing him further forward behind the striker, it is where he gets a lot of his goals from.
That’s not what he’s saying, he said he’s only ever played behind the striker for Scotland, not Hibs or Villa
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SickBoy32
20-06-2023, 12:49 PM
Painful reading this guff about SJM
There is no evidence whatsoever that his form dropped, he's been a mainstay in that Villa side pretty much since he joined them
I think the incumbent managers (Slippy included) would've dropped him, if he had 'terrible form' lasting x months
Hibernian Verse
20-06-2023, 12:53 PM
Painful reading this guff about SJM
There is no evidence whatsoever that his form dropped, he's been a mainstay in that Villa side pretty much since he joined them
I think the incumbent managers (Slippy included) would've dropped him, if he had 'terrible form' lasting x months
Remember this a forum full of people who think Joe Newell can't play football.
Ronniekirk
20-06-2023, 12:53 PM
There is no inkling that Mcginn is going to be Transferred so why are folk persisting in posting about him on a Transfer thread Yep I know there isn’t a lot of activity re transfer at the moment ,but having to read through loads of comments on him should be on another thread
But if he is suddenly the speculation of rumours linking him with a big money move ,yes I want to know that :agree:
GreenGray
20-06-2023, 12:54 PM
That’s not what he’s saying, he said he’s only ever played behind the striker for Scotland, not Hibs or Villa
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Misread that, my bad. What his form for Scotland in that position does show is that he is more effective further up the field, not a a 6 or as a box to box which is where he commonly played for Villa.
Allant1981
20-06-2023, 12:55 PM
Nope. It was 12-18 months of pretty horrible form. I watch Villa weekly, I love John, I'm just not looking at it with green tinted specs.
There's a reason the abuse towards him got toxic and it wasn't because he struggled for a few months. It was a prolo ged period of awful form that lasted 2 different managers.
Some on here just get their backs up when anyone doesn't treat John like a god. I love him as much as anyone else, but he was dreadful for ages. Him not being dropped was part of why he got so much abuse for a while, it was confusing everyone why he had been so poor for so long yet played every single game.
He was by his own admission awful for a while.
And btw, I'm being nice by saying 18 months. The Villa pod inlisten to mentioned it the other day and said 'he was poor for 2 years so to see him back to his usual is refreshing'.
It when he came back started from his ankle injury the season Villa came up, it ended with emery. That's a long, long time.
In case you need more proof, here's some tweets from other Villa fans talking about Mcginn being crap before this season
https://twitter.com/catrinavfc/status/1587777806745886720?t=xvDb53dLZP7joYPq-fbGEw&s=19
https://twitter.com/jakey_oung/status/1587782720020746241?t=Gc_uKx59ymW1AoM8m096VQ&s=19
https://twitter.com/jake_kingsnorth/status/1587617467987263488?t=Vuugs5cAOxABdUnxxOYeyw&s=19
https://twitter.com/T2Mardybum/status/1576602561099886592?t=0Gk2zc98iNffYVjnxsWLOg&s=19
By no means am I saying he's a bad player, or showing these to insinuate so, it's to show how clouded most are on him. To Hibs fans, he can do no wrong. To Villa fans, the ones that watched him weekly, he was miles off it for ages.
It's actually a testament to his ability that he overcame it and became a valuable player yet again. He's a great player who went through a really poor spell, but to deny he went rhrough a prolonged spell is just bias/not wanting to admit it. To Villa fans it felt like they were the only ones who noticed as the media didn't say anything at all.
There's also a reason there was quite the uproar when he was named captian, and its not because he had been playing well in the build up to it.
I would take some of those tweets with a pinch of salt, one of them said he had been s**t with scotland as well, he clearly wasn't, yet to see him play poorly for Scotland. I don't watch them every week as I'm at hibs games but watch MOTD every week and he was no where near as bad as you suggest and definitely not for 12-18 months. A colleague of mine is a ST holder for villa, goes down south every other week and raves about mcginn
Hibbyradge
20-06-2023, 01:00 PM
When's that ever been his best role? He's a centre mid, he's quite literally only ever played that role for Scotland. He's played his whole Villa career and Hibs as well btw as an 8 mainly sometimes as a 6. Villa tried him at 10 under Smith and he was no better.
As I said, the fact he hit form playing as a right winger should explain the position thing. It wasn't where he was played, it was simply just a bad run. Not sure why we need to find excuses, even the best players have poor spells, that's all I'm saying it was. A bad run.
Here's what Villa News has to say about McGinn.
"Aston Villa captain John McGinn has experienced a rollercoaster ride at Villa Park this season after taking the armband from Tyrone Mings last summer and being set up to fail in an unfamiliar position under Steven Gerrard.
The Scottish international was backed to the hilt by former Villa manager Gerrard in a deep-lying central midfield position that didn’t suit his game, but now playing wider and further forward under Unai Emery, McGinn looks to be returning to his vintage best.
He was hung out to dry by Gerard..."
And more...https://www-astonvillanews-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.astonvillanews.co.uk/2023/03/18/dan-bardell-john-mcginn-was-curtailed-by-steven-gerrard-but-can-now-thrive-in-unai-emery-system-at-aston-villa/amp/?amp=&_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_ct=1687265862585&_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16872658556695&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.astonvillanews.co.uk%2F 2023%2F03%2F18%2Fdan-bardell-john-mcginn-was-curtailed-by-steven-gerrard-but-can-now-thrive-in-unai-emery-system-at-aston-villa%2F
Brightside
20-06-2023, 01:08 PM
Painful reading this guff about SJM
There is no evidence whatsoever that his form dropped, he's been a mainstay in that Villa side pretty much since he joined them
I think the incumbent managers (Slippy included) would've dropped him, if he had 'terrible form' lasting x months
Can we not just put it on another thread
Can we not just put it on another thread
I'll 2nd that, it's absolutely boring.
PatHead
20-06-2023, 01:38 PM
Quick quiz for anybody who's interested I got 7/12
Quiz: Can you name all England's hat-trick heroes since 1990? - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65957562)
No
Hibbyradge
20-06-2023, 01:40 PM
I'll 2nd that, it's absolutely boring.
To be fair, it would be even more boring without the SJM chat.
There's exactly nothing to discuss transfer wise at the moment.
sleeping giant
20-06-2023, 01:47 PM
To be fair, it would be even more boring without the SJM chat.
There's exactly nothing to discuss transfer wise at the moment.
I'm sure you and your bunch of merry comedians will keep us all entertained during the dull days of the transfer window :-)
Donegal Hibby
20-06-2023, 01:50 PM
Quick quiz for anybody who's interested I got 7/12
Quiz: Can you name all England's hat-trick heroes since 1990? - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65957562)
Always interested in a footie quiz . Got 8/12 . Thanks for sharing :aok:
SickBoy32
20-06-2023, 01:52 PM
Remember this a forum full of people who think Joe Newell can't play football.
Guilty as charged :greengrin
(should add that I don't think he can't play football as such, just question his effectiveness - however that debate has also been done to death so let's leave it there!)
Hibbyradge
20-06-2023, 01:59 PM
I'm sure you and your bunch of merry comedians will keep us all entertained during the dull days of the transfer window :-)
It's no laughing matter, I'll have you know.
sleeping giant
20-06-2023, 02:01 PM
Always interested in a footie quiz . Got 8/12 . Thanks for sharing :aok:
8 for me too.
Gutted I didn't get the other 4
Hibernian Verse
20-06-2023, 02:03 PM
Guilty as charged :greengrin
(should add that I don't think he can't play football as such, just question his effectiveness - however that debate has also been done to death so let's leave it there!)
Excellent, a good old Joe Newell debate on the transfer thread :greengrin
Michael
20-06-2023, 02:03 PM
Quick quiz for anybody who's interested I got 7/12
Quiz: Can you name all England's hat-trick heroes since 1990? - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65957562)
I would have got 11/12 if I could spell Lineker :brickwall
No chance I'd have got San Marino (1993) though.
at last 61
20-06-2023, 02:08 PM
Can we have some transfer news, as the name suggests transfer
Brightside
20-06-2023, 02:11 PM
Can we have some transfer news, as the name suggests transfer
Apparently if there isn't any transfer news you can just post anything on here. If that goalie is coming I think we can forget about a replacement for Marsh. Hopefully Fish is next to be announced and then a big no.9
Quick quiz for anybody who's interested I got 7/12
Quiz: Can you name all England's hat-trick heroes since 1990? - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65957562)
I got 11/12 and can’t believe I didn’t get 12 cos the one i didn’t get was Walcott despite knowing that Saka was both the youngest and last Arsenal player to score a hat trick for England since Walcott, damn you old age!!
Tha Cabbage Kid
20-06-2023, 03:54 PM
Apparently if there isn't any transfer news you can just post anything on here. If that goalie is coming I think we can forget about a replacement for Marsh. Hopefully Fish is next to be announced and then a big no.9
Is la fondre not our big no. 9?
overdrive
20-06-2023, 03:56 PM
Is la fondre not our big no. 9?
Think he’s only 5ft9
Stuart93
20-06-2023, 04:00 PM
Apparently if there isn't any transfer news you can just post anything on here. If that goalie is coming I think we can forget about a replacement for Marsh. Hopefully Fish is next to be announced and then a big no.9
Not sure about that, surely Boruc would be coming in as development signing?
Tbh, a goalie would be pretty high up on my list which is surprising giving how Marshall started off but he costed us a decent amount of points with stupid errors
jeffers
20-06-2023, 04:07 PM
Is la fondre not our big no. 9?
Been signed as a good option from the bench, not as Nisbet’s replacement.
Donegal Hibby
20-06-2023, 04:22 PM
David marshall has made some mistake's though most keepers do . I still think if he had someone pushing him for the no. 1 jersey would help . It could be worse 🤣🤣🤣.
https://youtu.be/ffpNEznYMqs
Donegal Hibby
20-06-2023, 04:35 PM
Not alot of new transfer news in this article apart that Feeney's not thought to be a signing target for us .
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-transfer-latest-magennis-future-goalkeeper-search-youngster-compensation-4190432
Stuart93
20-06-2023, 05:05 PM
David marshall has made some mistake's though most keepers do . I still think if he had someone pushing him for the no. 1 jersey would help . It could be worse 🤣🤣🤣.
https://youtu.be/ffpNEznYMqs
You’re right it could be worse! But his stats in comparison to the rest of GKs in the league were pretty poor.
Would really like us to enquire about seigrist (spelling)
greenlex
20-06-2023, 05:23 PM
Van Veen away to Groningen,
degenerated
20-06-2023, 05:33 PM
David marshall has made some mistake's though most keepers do . I still think if he had someone pushing him for the no. 1 jersey would help . It could be worse [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787].
https://youtu.be/ffpNEznYMqsSome of those look like the keepers got a sly bet on somewhere. :greengrin
HendoDelivered
20-06-2023, 05:39 PM
Van Veen away to Groningen,
Motherwell will struggle next season
Callum_62
20-06-2023, 06:00 PM
When can we start screaming at Kensell about the lack of signings and/or rumors?
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Unseen work
20-06-2023, 06:12 PM
Forget Magennis is only 24.
If killie somehow kept him fit, especially on that pitch then it’s a great signing.
But receiving a fee and no longer having his wage would also be good business for us, as I just can’t see him staying fit for a prolonged period .
Donegal Hibby
20-06-2023, 06:26 PM
You’re right it could be worse! But his stats in comparison to the rest of GKs in the league were pretty poor.
Would really like us to enquire about seigrist (spelling)
Siegrist was excellent at Dundee Utd , very good keeper though I think he's contracted to Celtic to 2026 and probably would want a decent wage of us and I'd imagine Marshall's probably on a decent wage too . I wouldn't want to blow to much of our budget on a keeper when there's far more important outfield positions that should be the priority first , 1 RB , 1 or 2 CB , 1LB , 2 MF and 1striker minimum.
I think we could get away with Marshall for another year if we sign a few quality outfield players tbh . Only other keeper we have last season was young Johnston who imo wasn't really a rival to Marshall for the jersey , more Marshall was his mentor . I realise were your coming from on Marshall's stats btw and we do need a decent keeper who will push Marshall for the jersey .
StarMan10
20-06-2023, 06:30 PM
Siegrist was excellent at Dundee Utd , very good keeper though I think he's contracted to Celtic to 2026 and probably would want a decent wage of us and I'd imagine Marshall's probably on a decent wage too . I wouldn't want to blow to much of our budget on a keeper when there's far more important outfield positions that should be the priority first , 1 RB , 1 or 2 CB , 1LB , 2 MF and 1striker minimum.
I think we could get away with Marshall for another year if we sign a few quality outfield players tbh . Only other keeper we have last season was young Johnston who imo wasn't really a rival to Marshall for the jersey , more Marshall was his mentor . I realise were your coming from on Marshall's stats btw and we do need a decent keeper who will push Marshall for the jersey .
Expect we’ll get a keeper in on loan from down South once their pre-seasons start and squads begin to settle.
Donegal Hibby
20-06-2023, 06:39 PM
Expect we’ll get a keeper in on loan from down South once their pre-seasons start and squads begin to settle.
Good call .good see that happening 👍
They weren't. City were against Klopps liverpool, who had multiple 90 point seasons and reached 3 CL finals. The average premier League side is far better than 15 years ago too.
Again, not for me. Klopps Liverpool were and are a soft touch apart from one season
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:faf: A soft touch? As MWH has said, multiple 90+ points seasons, 3 champions league finals, won every tournament they’ve entered across 5 seasons, but they’re a soft touch? Aye ok
MWHIBBIES
20-06-2023, 08:47 PM
:faf: A soft touch? As MWH has said, multiple 90+ points seasons, 3 champions league finals, won every tournament they’ve entered across 5 seasons, but they’re a soft touch? Aye ok
Wish Hibs were soft enough to start a league season 26 wins 1 draw. Incredible side at their best.
rileygrieve1
20-06-2023, 09:01 PM
Anyone heard anything about Kyle Turner from Partick? Heard a rumour he’s heading to hibs
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JimBHibees
20-06-2023, 09:18 PM
Anyone heard anything about Kyle Turner from Partick? Heard a rumour he’s heading to hibs
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Good player imo
04Sauzee
20-06-2023, 09:20 PM
Anyone heard anything about Kyle Turner from Partick? Heard a rumour he’s heading to hibs
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Seen him tweet yesterday that he had left Thistle, seen a Hibs fan saying he'd love to see him at Hibs , not sure if it's 2+2=5 kind of thing or if theryis in fact something in it.
JimBHibees
20-06-2023, 09:23 PM
David marshall has made some mistake's though most keepers do . I still think if he had someone pushing him for the no. 1 jersey would help . It could be worse 🤣🤣🤣.
https://youtu.be/ffpNEznYMqs
Definitely a bit of competition would help
blackpoolhibs
20-06-2023, 09:27 PM
Siegrist was excellent at Dundee Utd , very good keeper though I think he's contracted to Celtic to 2026 and probably would want a decent wage of us and I'd imagine Marshall's probably on a decent wage too . I wouldn't want to blow to much of our budget on a keeper when there's far more important outfield positions that should be the priority first , 1 RB , 1 or 2 CB , 1LB , 2 MF and 1striker minimum.
I think we could get away with Marshall for another year if we sign a few quality outfield players tbh . Only other keeper we have last season was young Johnston who imo wasn't really a rival to Marshall for the jersey , more Marshall was his mentor . I realise were your coming from on Marshall's stats btw and we do need a decent keeper who will push Marshall for the jersey .
I'm not so sure, some of those goals he let in had nothing to do with what was playing in front of him, it was just bad goalkeeping, howlers on a scale zibi would have been proud of.
Donegal Hibby
20-06-2023, 09:36 PM
Definitely a bit of competition would help
He was never going to lose his place to young Johnston no matter what . If we get a decent keeper in to challenge him for the NO 1 Jersey I think it might raise his game tbh .
As to the wee rumour about Kyle turner. You posted that you not he is a good player . Do you think he'd be a improvement on what we already have ?
04Sauzee
20-06-2023, 09:50 PM
@scottburns75
Polish sources confirming a deal has now been agreed between Hibs and Slask Wroclaw and Boruc will travel to Scotland tomorrow to complete his move.
Unseen work
20-06-2023, 09:57 PM
First saw Kyle Turner play a couple of years ago for Dunfermline, was mainly watching due to Fraser Murray being on loan and being interested in how he was getting on.
Euan Henderson was also on loan iirc.
Back then I thought Kyle was the pick of the bunch. Composed and quite classy on the ball, played the ball forward and got in amongst the competition.
I was surprised he then moved to Airdie.
When I saw him I think he was about 22 or so and probably would have been worth a punt, now at 25 (26 this year) I’m not so sure, it’s a big step up imo especially with where we want to get to.
I think a move to one of the Dundee clubs is more likely.
04Sauzee
20-06-2023, 10:00 PM
First saw Kyle Turner play a couple of years ago for Dunfermline, was mainly watching due to Fraser Murray being on loan and being interested in how he was getting on.
Euan Henderson was also on loan iirc.
Back then I thought Kyle was the pick of the bunch. Composed and quite classy on the ball, played the ball forward and got in amongst the competition.
I was surprised he then moved to Airdie.
When I saw him I think he was about 22 or so and probably would have been worth a punt, now at 25 (26 this year) I’m not so sure, it’s a big step up imo especially with where we want to get to.
I think a move to one of the Dundee clubs is more likely.
Dundee Utd have just signed Ross Docherty from Thistle and Dundee signed Tiffany, so Thistle will probably struggle next season. I think Turner left Dunfermline because of a fall out with Stevie Crawford who was the managers at the time?
Unseen work
20-06-2023, 10:09 PM
Dundee Utd have just signed Ross Docherty from Thistle and Dundee signed Tiffany, so Thistle will probably struggle next season. I think Turner left Dunfermline because of a fall out with Stevie Crawford who was the managers at the time?
Ah maybe! I just remember thinking it was an odd one as from what I’d saw, he was a level above that.
If he came to us though I don’t see him being better than a JDH, Newell etc though
Vault Boy
20-06-2023, 10:22 PM
Wonder how Boruc compares to Dabrowski
Unseen work
20-06-2023, 10:31 PM
Aberdeen seem convinced they’ve signed Jay Idzes who we were linked with.
Stuart93
20-06-2023, 10:45 PM
Aberdeen seem convinced they’ve signed Jay Idzes who we were linked with.
Were we? First I’ve seen that name.
However it wouldn’t surprise me. Aberdeen tend to wait and see who we’re interested in
I’d enjoy another hibs signing soon
Donegal Hibby
20-06-2023, 10:48 PM
I'm not so sure, some of those goals he let in had nothing to do with what was playing in front of him, it was just bad goalkeeping, howlers on a scale zibi would have been proud of.
He's had some good moments too but I agree overall he's been poor last season . I do think having another keeper to challenge him for his place might help . He's not had any competition which I don't thinks a good thing .
Having good outfield players imo generally helps in a team and keeper from being put under pressure and opposition dominating the game , having more shots , corners and freekick's . Good outfield players is Something we are needing in most area's of our team.
If our transfer budget can stretch to a new No 1 then yeah that would be great though the priority for me must be defenders , midfielder's and a good striker before thinking about a new keeper TBH.
HendoDelivered
21-06-2023, 09:32 AM
Kyle Turner going to county
04Sauzee
21-06-2023, 09:38 AM
Kyle Turner going to county
Think he will do well there
Heisenberg
21-06-2023, 10:32 AM
Magennis confirmed as away, looks like a mutual termination of his contract. Nothing about where he’s off to.
04Sauzee
21-06-2023, 10:33 AM
Magennis confirmed as away, looks like a mutual termination of his contract. Nothing about where he’s off to.
Yip Hibs announce mutual agreement so some kind of pay off
BoomtownHibees
21-06-2023, 10:35 AM
Magennis signs for Killie
Greencore
21-06-2023, 10:39 AM
Magennis signs for Killie
Nice bit of wages free'd up.
04Sauzee
21-06-2023, 10:43 AM
Looks like we will have a busy few weeks as transfermarkt has us with a squad of 26
This still includes
Dabrowski
Egan-Riley
Devlin
Cabraja
Magennis
McGeady
Hoppe
Nisbet
Remove them and you have a squad of 18, with some of them probably moving on also.
Edit - make that 19 because they haven't got Alf included yet
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/hibernian-fc/startseite/verein/903
number9dream
21-06-2023, 10:47 AM
KM is a top player on his day but, sadly, we didn’t see it nearly enough.
We now need 2 midfielders better than the collection we have.
Paulie Walnuts
21-06-2023, 10:50 AM
Good news re Magennis.
Need to try and replace him with a box to box midfielder imo.
blackpoolhibs
21-06-2023, 10:51 AM
I'd imagine the management team do not have any confidence in Kyle being able to keep fit for any length of time.
If that's the case, then it is another decent wage off the bill, although we've probably had to subsidise it with a pay off.
Shame really, as when fit he'd be first choice in that midfield, but he rarely was.
Good luck Kyle.
Since452
21-06-2023, 10:51 AM
Shame about Magennis. Really good player but only when he was on the park which was the problem. Wages freed up. As much as i'm disappointed i'm also quite pleased to see that LJ can be ruthless when he needs to be.
McGruber
21-06-2023, 10:51 AM
Looks like we will have a busy few weeks as transfermarkt has us with a squad of 26
This still includes
Dabrowski
Egan-Riley
Devlin
Cabraja
Magennis
McGeady
Hoppe
Nisbet
Remove them and you have a squad of 18, with some of them probably moving on also.
Edit - make that 19 because they haven't got Alf included yet
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/hibernian-fc/startseite/verein/903
1st team squad of 20 (which doesn't include Tait, not clear if he was a first team or development signing)
McGruber
21-06-2023, 10:54 AM
Shame about Magennis. Really good player but only when he was on the park which was the problem. Wages freed up. As much as i'm disappointed i'm also quite pleased to see that LJ can be ruthless when he needs to be.
Yeah, real shame. Very good player when fit. He says he is fit and raring to go now but club obviously don't share that confidence. Hope he goes on to have a good playing career and gets a consistent run
Potty78
21-06-2023, 10:56 AM
Good player on his day but unfortunately his injuries have cost him. Hope he does well👍
hibsforeurope
21-06-2023, 11:03 AM
Shame about Magennis, when fit he was an important player for us. One that we've not managed to replace yet.
I wonder how many more will be cut before the season starts, another 5 or 6 yet i think.
Paulie Walnuts
21-06-2023, 11:07 AM
Was he a very good player for us?
He played 49 games and had more bad ones than good ones. There was all sorts of excuses made for him but at the end of the day he never played and when he did he wasn’t up to much the vast majority of the time.
No real loss at all imo.
JimBHibees
21-06-2023, 11:08 AM
I'd imagine the management team do not have any confidence in Kyle being able to keep fit for any length of time.
If that's the case, then it is another decent wage off the bill, although we've probably had to subsidise it with a pay off.
Shame really, as when fit he'd be first choice in that midfield, but he rarely was.
Good luck Kyle.
Agree with that.
Unseen work
21-06-2023, 11:15 AM
Gutted re Magennis but probably the right decision.
Johnson has mentioned it a few times and he’s bang on, we need to start making the most of our budget whether that’s less players and more quality or more players that are available every week.
Magennis
Nisbet
McGeady
Will surely be a fair chunk of wages, add in the fee for Nisbet and compensation were due for Laidlaw and you’d think we’d have a good amount to spend
I think Magennis is a bold move from us so expect to bring in realt quality in his place.
JohnM1875
21-06-2023, 11:16 AM
Was he a very good player for us?
He played 49 games and had more bad ones than good ones. There was all sorts of excuses made for him but at the end of the day he never played and when he did he wasn’t up to much the vast majority of the time.
No real loss at all imo.
Kinda where I'm at as well. Was average for the majority of his time here.
Shame about the injuries though! But pleased he's off the wage bill
Callum_62
21-06-2023, 11:17 AM
Was he a very good player for us?
He played 49 games and had more bad ones than good ones. There was all sorts of excuses made for him but at the end of the day he never played and when he did he wasn’t up to much the vast majority of the time.
No real loss at all imo.
You cant class him as a good signing but for the periods he was fully fit he was more often than not our best midfielder
We started the season looking excellent with him playing a main role in that
Unseen work
21-06-2023, 11:21 AM
You cant class him as a good signing but for the periods he was fully fit he was more often than not our best midfielder
We started the season looking excellent with him playing a main role in that
Didn’t Kyle only really come into the team between about November and January?
Scored a couple of goals against Livi playing off the right.
Paulie Walnuts
21-06-2023, 11:24 AM
You cant class him as a good signing but for the periods he was fully fit he was more often than not our best midfielder
We started the season looking excellent with him playing a main role in that
That kind of falls into the all sorts of excuses part of my post.
He was fit and playing for 49 games. He was crap for considerably more of them than he was good.
Callum_62
21-06-2023, 11:30 AM
That kind of falls into the all sorts of excuses part of my post.
He was fit and playing for 49 games. He was crap for considerably more of them than he was good.
OK - hes crap :aok:
badabing67
21-06-2023, 11:35 AM
Ellis Simms wanted by 3 clubs including Ipswich the article didn't mention which other 2 teams were in for him
jeffers
21-06-2023, 11:35 AM
OK - hes crap :aok:
Tbf there’s a difference between him being a crap player and saying a good percentage of his time with us he was crap. I don’t think many would argue he’s not a good player when he’s on his game but we saw very little of that.
Callum_62
21-06-2023, 11:38 AM
Ellis Simms wanted by 3 clubs including Ipswich the article didn't mention which other 2 teams were in for himGreat signing he would be but surely out with us financially
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Nicho87
21-06-2023, 11:39 AM
Correct decision
Tavares
Doidge
Henderson
Next please
Stuart93
21-06-2023, 11:39 AM
Really hope we get guys in for at least R3 of Europe (providing we make it through R2).
We always seem to be underprepared for them
badabing67
21-06-2023, 11:41 AM
Great signing he would be but surely out with us financially
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I was thinking one of the the other two clubs could be Hearts
Donegal Hibby
21-06-2023, 11:42 AM
You cant class him as a good signing but for the periods he was fully fit he was more often than not our best midfielder
We started the season looking excellent with him playing a main role in that
Totally agree , when Kyle Magennis was fit he was our best midfielder . Sadly it's not worked out with the injuries he's had . Wish him well.
badabing67
21-06-2023, 11:43 AM
Correct decision
Tavares
Doidge
Henderson
Next please
I dunno why but I think Tavares might be worth persevering with for a while, lets see how he gets on in pre-season
expresso
21-06-2023, 11:44 AM
You just know he’s going to have an injury free run now
Paulie Walnuts
21-06-2023, 11:49 AM
OK - hes crap :aok:
Ok, I’ll play along.
When was it he was good? 4 or 5 games nearly 2 years ago?
He was fit and available for 12 games in a row in April/May 21. He couldn’t get a start because he wasn’t playing well then. Why do they games not count but the ones he played well in do?
Cabraja looked very good for 4 or 5 games at the start of this season. He looked crap the rest of it. Is he now a very good player because of those 4 or 5 games? Or is the rest of his performances which make up the vast majority of his performances a better indicator?
Donegal Hibby
21-06-2023, 11:50 AM
I was thinking one of the the other two clubs could be Hearts
I was thinking one might be Sunderland, wasn't he on loan there at one stage ?
Callum_62
21-06-2023, 11:51 AM
I dunno why but I think Tavares might be worth persevering with for a while, lets see how he gets on in pre-seasonWeirdly I agree and I'm sure we will be in the minority [emoji1787][emoji1787]
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ian cruise
21-06-2023, 11:57 AM
Ok, I’ll play along.
When was it he was good? 4 or 5 games nearly 2 years ago?
He was fit and available for 12 games in a row in April/May 21. He couldn’t get a start because he wasn’t playing well then. Why do they games not count but the ones he played well in do?
Cabraja looked very good for 4 or 5 games at the start of this season. He looked crap the rest of it. Is he now a very good player because of those 4 or 5 games? Or is the rest of his performances which make up the vast majority of his performances a better indicator?
Ross played Magennis on the wing by Jack Ross and he was, let's say not good. He was moved in to the centre and was a revelation.
Unfortunately in between injuries and then lack of game time he never really hit the heights of that first run in centre of the park but there was enough shown in that time for some fans to be desperate for him to be back fit and a mainstay.
Probably the right move on both sides but you know he's going to play 35 games and be excellent next season.
brydekirk
21-06-2023, 12:08 PM
Wonder how Boruc compares to Dabrowski
He's obviously better thought of or we wouldn't have entertained him.
hibsforeurope
21-06-2023, 12:15 PM
I dunno why but I think Tavares might be worth persevering with for a while, lets see how he gets on in pre-season
I just can't see it. There was more potential to get good performances from Magennis (he's at least shown he can play) and we've cut him. i think we cut our losses (again) and move on.
Paulie Walnuts
21-06-2023, 12:40 PM
Ross played Magennis on the wing by Jack Ross and he was, let's say not good. He was moved in to the centre and was a revelation.
Unfortunately in between injuries and then lack of game time he never really hit the heights of that first run in centre of the park but there was enough shown in that time for some fans to be desperate for him to be back fit and a mainstay.
Probably the right move on both sides but you know he's going to play 35 games and be excellent next season.
And when he did get a start in the centre against Stranraer he was still crap, subbed off halfway through the second half and back on the bench the next game.
He wasn’t even doing the basics right, things he should have been able to do regardless of his position.
CapitalGreen
21-06-2023, 12:46 PM
KM was a great young player but has been done by injuries unfortunately. I hope he can go on to have a good career and remain injury free.
EGL2000
21-06-2023, 01:01 PM
Ellis Simms would be a great signing, imagine hearts would be in for him if he's available though.
Broken Gnome
21-06-2023, 01:10 PM
Ellis Simms is at the start of his career, was successful at Sunderland, was recalled by Everton to help them stay up, and is comfortably with a couple of million quid at least.
I think he may have more lucrative offers than Hibs in the offing.
badabing67
21-06-2023, 01:12 PM
I was thinking one might be Sunderland, wasn't he on loan there at one stage ?
Yes he was.... It could be Sunderland as well as Ipswich that are interested but that still leaves a third party
McGruber
21-06-2023, 01:25 PM
Yes he was.... It could be Sunderland as well as Ipswich that are interested but that still leaves a third party
It does, but it won't be Hibs or Hearts. Well out of reach for both now
Donegal Hibby
21-06-2023, 01:27 PM
Yes he was.... It could be Sunderland as well as Ipswich that are interested but that still leaves a third party
Sunderland are one btw . I don't think any club outside the old firms got any chance of getting him if two championship teams are after him TBH .
https://www.footballfancast.com/sunderland-safc-ellis-simms-transfer-bid-news-updates/
Since452
21-06-2023, 01:40 PM
I was thinking one of the the other two clubs could be Hearts
Can't see it. He was in Everton's first team. Way out Hearts budget.
Ronniekirk
21-06-2023, 01:43 PM
You just know he’s going to have an injury free run now
He might and good luck to him if he does but although it’s a risk we take , his injury history tells us that’s unlikely We have persevered for three years with him and in last two seasons in particular got very little return
Hibee Mac
21-06-2023, 01:46 PM
I don't think we saw anywhere near enough of Magennis to say he was our best midfielder when fit.
He had a great run at the start of last season, but that was something like 6 league games, maybe 10 games in total when you include European diddy teams and league cup early stage?
I think it's a stretch to say he was our best midfielder, it's even a stretch to say he's a great player, we saw just over a handful of games with him in the centre of the park.
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Hibees1973
21-06-2023, 01:46 PM
Can't see it. He was in Everton's first team. Way out Hearts budget.
Unless they have another corrupt Lithuanian in the background. The last one bought their last 2 Scottish Cups wins.
Pretty Boy
21-06-2023, 02:02 PM
He might and good luck to him if he does but although it’s a risk we take , his injury history tells us that’s unlikely We have persevered for three years with him and in last two seasons in particular got very little return
If Magennis has an injury free run at Kilmarnock then it will be the exception rather than the rule. In 7 seasons as a 1st team player he has managed more than 30 games in a season once (32) and never managed 25 in a season for Hibs (23, 13 and 13). I don't think it's a massively controversial take to say that once someone has had a serious injury coupled with cumulative smaller injuries then it makes them more rather than less likely to incur other injuries.
It's a shame it didn't work out for him here as for that 7 or 8 game spell at the start of season 21/22 he did look like he might be what we needed. We couldn't afford to place so many eggs in that basket again though and moving him on is 100% the right decision by the club.
jeffers
21-06-2023, 02:07 PM
I don't think we saw anywhere near enough of Magennis to say he was our best midfielder when fit.
He had a great run at the start of last season, but that was something like 6 league games, maybe 10 games in total when you include European diddy teams and league cup early stage?
I think it's a stretch to say he was our best midfielder, it's even a stretch to say he's a great player, we saw just over a handful of games with him in the centre of the park.
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Agreed. For a few games McGeady was excellent but doesn’t mean he should ever have been referred to as our best forward and for me the same applies to Magennis. He probably had more poor to average performances than he did excellent ones.
Fwiw I don’t believe we paid him off, the terms of the break clause meant we could terminate his contract with no financial implications, which is fair imo. Killie are getting a player who did have value for nothing.
HFC93
21-06-2023, 02:14 PM
Quite impressed with how Hibs are going about their business in shifting players from our bloated squad. A lot of dead weight on the books.
Stuart93
21-06-2023, 02:29 PM
Quite impressed with how Hibs are going about their business in shifting players from our bloated squad. A lot of dead weight on the books.
As long as we’re just as impressed about the incomings
HFC93
21-06-2023, 02:37 PM
As long as we’re just as impressed about the incomings
Will reserve judgment on that but there is a lot of players who need to shift which isn’t easy.
HoboHarry
21-06-2023, 02:37 PM
Agreed. For a few games McGeady was excellent but doesn’t mean he should ever have been referred to as our best forward and for me the same applies to Magennis. He probably had more poor to average performances than he did excellent ones.
Fwiw I don’t believe we paid him off, the terms of the break clause meant we could terminate his contract with no financial implications, which is fair imo. Killie are getting a player who did have value for nothing.
What break clause? Where was this reported?
Unseen work
21-06-2023, 02:48 PM
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/5869420/exclusive-aberdeen-pull-out-of-race-to-sign-defender-jay-idzes/
Wonder if this could open the door for us. Rumoured to be in for him in May
Cocaine&Caviar
21-06-2023, 02:48 PM
GK: Marshall / Boruc*
RB: Miller / TBC* [Cadden Inj]
CB: Fish* / TBC*
CB: Hanlon / Rocky
LB: TBC* / Stevenson
DM: Jeggo / Kenneh
CM: Newell / JDH
CM: TBC* / Campbell
RW: Boyle / McKirdy
LW: Youan / Mackay
CF: TBC* / ALF / Melkerson
Out (Perm or Loan) Doidge, Tavares, Henderson, Hauge, Delfierre, Tait, MacIntyre
5 names to find for me, would take Myko as the CF, and Egan-Riely as the CB/RB
badabing67
21-06-2023, 03:05 PM
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/5869420/exclusive-aberdeen-pull-out-of-race-to-sign-defender-jay-idzes/
Wonder if this could open the door for us. Rumoured to be in for him in May
I was wondering a while back what would happen with Liam Scales as i didn't see him getting much game time at Celtic I think the Sheep will make a move for him
JohnM1875
21-06-2023, 03:06 PM
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/5869420/exclusive-aberdeen-pull-out-of-race-to-sign-defender-jay-idzes/
Wonder if this could open the door for us. Rumoured to be in for him in May
Don't blame him not wanting to relocate to Aberdeen.
Stuart93
21-06-2023, 03:12 PM
Aberdeen certainly looking to get guys in early doors.
Give us a rumour
jeffers
21-06-2023, 03:25 PM
What break clause? Where was this reported?
Don’t think it’s been reported but I was told about it by someone who would know. Don’t know the finite details but did hear we were looking to cut our losses in January with him so the fact we’ve done it now doesn’t come as a big surprise.
Not In The Know
21-06-2023, 03:33 PM
Quite impressed with how Hibs are going about their business in shifting players from our bloated squad. A lot of dead weight on the books.
Have they announced these cuts officially?
MWHIBBIES
21-06-2023, 03:34 PM
Aberdeen certainly looking to get guys in early doors.
Give us a rumour
They usually do. More often than not, they're utter *****.
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