Greggs Summer transfer thread 2023 [Archive] - Page 6

GreenNWhiteArmy

31-05-2023, 04:52 PM

They’ve met our valuation and accepted it. Will hopefully start a bidding war!

It’s up to player now!

No bidding war if we've declared happy to accept at a certain value. So long as we double that for the uglies from the West when they inevitably come knocking

1.5M with somewhere between 10-20% sell on fee?

Donegal Hibby

31-05-2023, 05:00 PM

Surely you can see the difference between Main, who is being suggested as a cheap squad filler as he’s out of contract compared to Van Veen who would be a very expensive 32 year old that we are likely not to be able to afford or justify spending big money on when he’s likely got one season left?

Nouble was also mentioned not that long ago by posters even saying him playing in the centre of Youan and Boyle would be good who Martindale said wouldn't be sold on the cheap which was talk of him being a first team player and if we were to spend money I'd rather try for van Veen over nouble tbh . At 32 and with one season left I'd be surprised if Motherwell do get top dollar for him tbh .

As to main being a squad filler I didn't pick up on that's what was meant ( apologies 👍 ) though I don't really rate him either and think if he wasn't good enough for Aberdeen than he's certainly not good enough for us even if he is a cheap option btw .

Unseen work

31-05-2023, 05:04 PM

I really like McGrath at St Mirren and when I saw him for Ireland.

United he’s not been at his best, along with the whole squad. I think something they’ve struggled with is getting the balance right which we know is difficult.

But say McGrath with Newell and Jeggo alongside him and I think you’d see a different player, especially with Boyle and Youan being on the wings.

He’s creative, can receive the ball on the turn and score goals.

He might not be unbelievable but he’d be an upgrade on most of our options on the bench at the very least.

If we could sign him to replace bench options like Hoppe, Henderson etc then that’s already a bonus.

Add in Williams who plays a similar position we’d look so much stronger.

Both competing with each other and Campbell who could play deeper, albeit I think he’ll be off for a decent fee

Aldo

31-05-2023, 05:06 PM

No bidding war if we've declared happy to accept at a certain value. So long as we double that for the uglies from the West when they inevitably come knocking

1.5M with somewhere between 10-20% sell on fee?

Indeed GWA.

I think that would be fair if we got that for KN.

Unseen work

31-05-2023, 05:07 PM

I don't see anything in any the signings Johnson has made so far that would suggest he's the sort of player he'd want.

I mean more that he likes a striker or forward with a really good physical attribute whether it’s strength or pace.

Nisbet is a very good player and all round striker, but he’s also got really good physical attributes and able to Chuck defenders about - as is Kuhkarevych.

He signed Stewart for Sunderland who again has those attributes and there was a couple more than I can’t remember.

But main with his strength and ability to hold it up, run in behind and make like difficult or “create havoc” for defenders as Johnson puts it is the reason I wouldn’t be overly surprised.

Only as a cheap option but the teams in England will probably be paying more than we’d be willing to pay for back up.

Stuart93

31-05-2023, 05:11 PM

Indeed GWA.

I think that would be fair if we got that for KN.

You reckon? £1.5m is pennies compared to KN’s real value and that’s with only a year left.

We’ll never get what we’re due for players from teams down south if we keep selling on the each

Aldo

31-05-2023, 05:13 PM

You reckon? £1.5m is pennies compared to KN’s real value and that’s with only a year left.

We’ll never get what we’re due for players from teams down south if we keep selling on the each

I know it’s pennies but he has 12 months left on his contract. The 1.5 is only speculation mind. Maybe more maybe less?

If he had 2 years it would be at least double imho.

Donegal Hibby

31-05-2023, 05:14 PM

I’m trying not to be a dick about it but I don’t really get why people can’t see that?

Unless it was silly money, Motherwell would be as well just keeping him and if we were about to pay silly money for someone, it wouldn’t be a 32 year old who’s had one good season really and probably got one year left in him. Just doesn’t make any sense.

Actually a wee bit arrogance about it that we could just go and take him from a club like Motherwell.
Though some wanted us to go after nouble who Martindale has priced at silly money also . I fail to understand how you see Van Veens only got one year left in him when you only have to look at players like Stevenson tbh . No reason at all why you couldn't get 2 or 3 season's out of Van Veen. Not being arrogant about it at all clubs regularly try and test the water with a low offer for players all the time and you could even try cash and a player or two swap deal . No harm trying imo.

Stevie Reid

31-05-2023, 05:21 PM

Am I right in thinking that we’ll be due a large chunk of KN’s fee to the Pars?

Donegal Hibby

31-05-2023, 05:28 PM

I’d rather get Myko back than spend the money Well are looking for him.

I think we also need a poacher a proper no 9 that can stick chances away. One that can feed off Youan and Boyle
So would i actually good player 👍. Definitely going to need somebody that can score goals when Nisbet goes . A decent striker playing in between Youan and Boyle should score plenty imo .

Stuart93

31-05-2023, 05:31 PM

I know it’s pennies but he has 12 months left on his contract. The 1.5 is only speculation mind. Maybe more maybe less?

If he had 2 years it would be at least double imho.

Aye probably but still think we should be pushing for over £2m at least, which might be the case.

I also agree with your point we need a proper poacher. Reckon they’d score barrel loads for us

theonlywayisup

31-05-2023, 05:35 PM

Reported in the Sun :rolleyes:

MILLWALL are back in for Kevin Nisbet - and this time they are confident of getting their man.

The Hibs striker REJECTED a £2.2million move - and what he described as ‘life-changing money’ - to The Den in January after holding talks.

But just last week he stressed it was the timing of the deal - not the club - that led to him saying no.

And that has encouraged the Lions to get in touch once more to try and clinch a deal this summer.

Blackburn remain keen while Galatasaray watched the 25-year-old play post-split.

But the Championship side have already spoken to the Edinburgh outfit and are ready to do business.

Nisbet claimed last week he was right to say no in January, a decision now vindicated by his return to Steve Clarke’s Scotland squad.

But with two years of his Easter Road contract left to run a move is on the cards.

He said then: “Sometimes you just get a feeling that it isn't the right time to go.

“It was more about me, not anything to do with Millwall or Hibs or anything.

Funkydunc

31-05-2023, 05:37 PM

Am I right in thinking that we’ll be due a large chunk of KN’s fee to the Pars?

Yeah 20%

Aldo

31-05-2023, 05:45 PM

Aye probably but still think we should be pushing for over £2m at least, which might be the case.

I also agree with your point we need a proper poacher. Reckon they’d score barrel loads for us

I’m certain the club will push and ensure they get the best deal possible for the club.

I really think a good no9 will thrive with the service.

Hibs4185

31-05-2023, 05:54 PM

gbhibby

31-05-2023, 06:03 PM

We need to get business done early this year as depending on Saturdays result Europe will be upon us soon. Van Veen would be a good start.

Aldo

31-05-2023, 07:08 PM

1.5 million for KN? No chance. I never advocate for keeping a player as we are a selling club but in this instance, I’d be keeping him for a push at Europe next season.

£2.5 million with a sell on would be different but not under that.

Given what’s left on his contract I’d be surprised if we got anywhere near £2.5 million. FWIW I think he’s worth more than that and his current National call up helps. What if the player actually wants to move?

The club are obviously happy with what Millwall have put forward, meeting the clubs valuation of him! As I mentioned earlier it’s now up to the player.

Pete70

31-05-2023, 07:39 PM

Take what we can for Nizzy then test Troyes resolve with a cheeky £0.5m bid for big Myko :greengrin

Stuart93

31-05-2023, 07:40 PM

Take what we can for Nizzy then test Troyes resolve with a cheeky £0.5m bid for big Myko :greengrin

I’m no sure why folk are so keen on him coming back tbh, spent most of his time here out injured

PHeffernan

31-05-2023, 07:42 PM

Take what we can for Nizzy then test Troyes resolve with a cheeky £0.5m bid for big Myko :greengrin

Do we offer him his own treatment table next to Kyle Magennis?
He managed 2 more games than Kyle this season.

007

31-05-2023, 07:45 PM

Do we offer him his own treatment table next to Kyle Magennis?
He managed 2 more games than Kyle this season.

We've freed one up by releasing McGeady.

madhatter

31-05-2023, 07:46 PM

Take what we can for Nizzy then test Troyes resolve with a cheeky £0.5m bid for big Myko :greengrin

Like the sentiment but we need players that are fit more often that not. Myko was injured too often.

Injuries held us back from challenging for 3rd.

PHeffernan

31-05-2023, 07:48 PM

We've freed one up by releasing McGeady.

It's gone
Cadden had first dibs on it

Paulie Walnuts

31-05-2023, 07:49 PM

I’m no sure why folk are so keen on him coming back tbh, spent most of his time here out injured

Agree.

Good player but I wouldn’t be paying for him at this point. Would probably take him on loan again.

bingo70

31-05-2023, 07:58 PM

I’m no sure why folk are so keen on him coming back tbh, spent most of his time here out injured

I think the reason people want him back is because he’s class.

Clearly fitness is the concern but presumably Hibs will do their research and look what pre-season he had last season, what the injuries were, what caused them and the likelihood of them reoccurring if he gets a good pre-season under his belt. It’s not an exact science but it wouldn’t be a finger in the air and hope for the best job, it would be an educated gamble.

If signing him, I’d also like us to sign an experienced forward that probably wouldn’t also be expected to play 40 games a season. Repeating myself I know as I suggested Fletcher earlier but someone like him or Curtis Main (tin hat on I know) and that would be a couple of good options I think.

HibbyAndy

31-05-2023, 08:00 PM

I think the reason people want him back is because he’s class.

Clearly fitness is the concern but presumably Hibs will do their research and look what pre-season he had last season, what the injuries were, what caused them and the likelihood of them reoccurring if he gets a good pre-season under his belt. It’s not an exact science but it wouldn’t be a finger in the air and hope for the best job, it would be an educated gamble.

If signing him, I’d also like us to sign an experienced forward that probably wouldn’t also be expected to play 40 games a season. Repeating myself I know as I suggested Fletcher earlier but someone like him or Curtis Main (tin hat on I know) and that would be a couple of good options I think.

Curtis main ? Mate your having a laugh ! he's nowhere near hibs standard ! Absolutely not

Unseen work

31-05-2023, 08:09 PM

Take what we can for Nizzy then test Troyes resolve with a cheeky £0.5m bid for big Myko :greengrin

Said it many times but I think the fact he was injured a lot of last season will work in our favour.

Think he seems like he could be really good and well worth spending money on.

Would need another quality and more experienced striker signed too though

Stuart93

31-05-2023, 08:18 PM

I think the reason people want him back is because he’s class.

Clearly fitness is the concern but presumably Hibs will do their research and look what pre-season he had last season, what the injuries were, what caused them and the likelihood of them reoccurring if he gets a good pre-season under his belt. It’s not an exact science but it wouldn’t be a finger in the air and hope for the best job, it would be an educated gamble.

If signing him, I’d also like us to sign an experienced forward that probably wouldn’t also be expected to play 40 games a season. Repeating myself I know as I suggested Fletcher earlier but someone like him or Curtis Main (tin hat on I know) and that would be a couple of good options I think.

He’s too much of a risk to buy as our main striker.

J-C

31-05-2023, 08:26 PM

I have a feeling we did a wee deal with Nisbet in January, asked him to stay till the summer and accept a bid of around £1.5m when it comes in to let him go.

Col2

31-05-2023, 08:28 PM

Said it many times but I think the fact he was injured a lot of last season will work in our favour.

Think he seems like he could be really good and well worth spending money on.

Would need another quality and more experienced striker signed too though

With Youan and Boyle and O’Connor coming through and Doidge still here I am not sure we would be able to justify another on top of him

J-C

31-05-2023, 08:29 PM

With Youan and Boyle and O’Connor coming through and Doidge still here I am not sure we would be able to justify another on top of him

O'Connor is on loan next season.

Gordy M

31-05-2023, 08:29 PM

I have a feeling we did a wee deal with Nisbet in January, asked him to stay till the summer and accept a bid of around £1.5m when it comes in to let him go.

What i heard was he failed the medical as he hadnt fully recovered from his injury and his (knee?) wasnt strong enough to pass. Also heard is on 7k a week so big wages freed up if that is right?

J-C

31-05-2023, 08:31 PM

What i heard was he failed the medical as he hadnt fully recovered from his injury and his (knee?) wasnt strong enough to pass. Also heard is on 7k a week so big wages freed up if that is right?

No danger he's on that kind of money, he came from Dunfermline in the championship and hadn't proven himself in the SPFL yet, he'll be nearer £2-2.5k

Gordy M

31-05-2023, 08:32 PM

No danger he's on that kind of money, he came from Dunfermline in the championship and hadn't proven himself in the SPFL yet, he'll be nearer £2-2.5k

Ok fair enough, my mate knows his agent pretty well, came from him so who knows.

J-C

31-05-2023, 08:36 PM

Ok fair enough, my mate knows his agent pretty well, came from him so who knows.

If I was a player, I wouldn't be happy my agent was telling anyone he meets how much his clients were earning.

Donegal Hibby

31-05-2023, 08:41 PM

Curtis main ? Mate your having a laugh ! he's nowhere near hibs standard ! Absolutely not
. One of the problems we have had this season imo is we've not really had much to come off the bench and have a positive effect in a game . Hardly think Curtis main is the type who'd come off the bench and get you a goal in fairness.

bingo70

31-05-2023, 08:45 PM

Curtis main ? Mate your having a laugh ! he's nowhere near hibs standard ! Absolutely not

There was a bit chat about him earlier on this thread that I agreed with (I think it was this thread anyway)

A year or so ago I would 100% of agreed with you. He’s had an excellent season though, I liked him against us and he was excellent against Celtic a couple of weeks ago when I watched him. Might well be a lucky season but I think physical strikers do get better with age. If he was relatively cheap and being brought in as a squad player to cover for injuries he’d be a good team player, even if he’s not likely to get 15-20 goals a season.

One thing I would say, and this isn’t directed at you but last season we took some punts on unknown players and people went daft saying we needed players we needed proven spfl players, when it’s suggested we look at players who have done well for SPFL clubs there’s a tendency to turn our noses up at them.

I would hazard a guess if you asked every SPFL defender this season who marked Curtis Main if he was good, every one of them would say yes, and just to reiterate I’m only suggesting him if he was available as a cheap option as back up.

In short he’d do better than Bojang did 😂

Stevie Reid

31-05-2023, 08:59 PM

There was a bit chat about him earlier on this thread that I agreed with (I think it was this thread anyway)

A year or so ago I would 100% of agreed with you. He’s had an excellent season though, I liked him against us and he was excellent against Celtic a couple of weeks ago when I watched him. Might well be a lucky season but I think physical strikers do get better with age. If he was relatively cheap and being brought in as a squad player to cover for injuries he’d be a good team player, even if he’s not likely to get 15-20 goals a season.

One thing I would say, and this isn’t directed at you but last season we took some punts on unknown players and people went daft saying we needed players we needed proven spfl players, when it’s suggested we look at players who have done well for SPFL clubs there’s a tendency to turn our noses up at them.

I would hazard a guess if you asked every SPFL defender this season who marked Curtis Main if he was good, every one of them would say yes, and just to reiterate I’m only suggesting him if he was available as a cheap option as back up.

In short he’d do better than Bojang did 😂

Agree with every word of this. We’re never going to get equal quality right throughout the squad, and there are moments in games or certain fixtures where different options are required.

Seen Main bully centre halfs very well this season, and he holds the ball up well and brings others into play. Seems quite quick for his size as well, and is now very experienced in the SPL.

Be happy enough for him to be a part of the squad.

Wheat Hound

31-05-2023, 09:31 PM

I know for a fact our management team rate Main and tried to get him in before. Would not be surprised in the slightest if we go in for him again now tbh...

cabbageandribs1875

31-05-2023, 09:35 PM

Curtis Main has rejected a new contract with the Buddies

bingo70

31-05-2023, 09:39 PM

Curtis Main has rejected a new contract with the Buddies

I think he’s going down south.

As far as I’m aware it was only me suggesting him and there’s not been any credible links. Just someone I thought might be unfashionable but do alright, especially if we’re signing big Myke and need cover for him.

Nicho87

31-05-2023, 09:51 PM

Out of all the loans we’ve had here this season.

I’d be most excited about getting the myko back, he was really coming on to a game before he got his injury.

Defo will have sell on value and worth a calculated punt I think.

cabbageandribs1875

31-05-2023, 09:53 PM

I think he’s going down south.

As far as I’m aware it was only me suggesting him and there’s not been any credible links. Just someone I thought might be unfashionable but do alright, especially if we’re signing big Myke and need cover for him.

yeah i think he could play in the Championship

Unseen work

31-05-2023, 10:25 PM

There was a bit chat about him earlier on this thread that I agreed with (I think it was this thread anyway)

A year or so ago I would 100% of agreed with you. He’s had an excellent season though, I liked him against us and he was excellent against Celtic a couple of weeks ago when I watched him. Might well be a lucky season but I think physical strikers do get better with age. If he was relatively cheap and being brought in as a squad player to cover for injuries he’d be a good team player, even if he’s not likely to get 15-20 goals a season.

One thing I would say, and this isn’t directed at you but last season we took some punts on unknown players and people went daft saying we needed players we needed proven spfl players, when it’s suggested we look at players who have done well for SPFL clubs there’s a tendency to turn our noses up at them.

I would hazard a guess if you asked every SPFL defender this season who marked Curtis Main if he was good, every one of them would say yes, and just to reiterate I’m only suggesting him if he was available as a cheap option as back up.

In short he’d do better than Bojang did 😂

This is where I’m at.

We need to improve our starting 11 but we also need to improve our squad depth.

If he was with us this season had have contributed far more than McKirdy, Hoppe, Tavares, Melkersen and Bojang combined.

I don’t want him as our first choice, but as an option I think he’d be decent enough.

In an ideal world we sign a younger player than main, more ability, better finishing and with the same physicality. But, we can do far far worse

badabing67

31-05-2023, 11:33 PM

I think LJ has known for awhile who he'd like to move on which is why we accepted a loan deal for Henderson and a offer for JDH which was a surprising one though maybe the offer was a good one .

Telling players they aren't required I don't think will move them on when they are on a nice wage with 2 years left on there contracts maybe if a suitable club came in for them though can't see many clubs really cueing up for Henderson or Magennis tbh .

This article saying Millwall confident of getting Nisbet according to the Scottish sun other clubs like Blackburn interested too . Personally if I was Nisbet I'd rather Blackburn or one of the other clubs over Millwall every day of the week .

Wee quiz on English club nicknames in article . Got 17 out of 20.
https://the72.co.uk/2023/05/31/encouraging-update-emerges-on-millwalls-chase-of-12-goal-striker-blackburn-rovers-still-keen/

Here's a wee quiz for you

Spot the ball quiz: Every Premier League team featured - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65674891)

1875godsgift

31-05-2023, 11:44 PM

Here's a wee quiz for you

Spot the ball quiz: Every Premier League team featured - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65674891)

Somewhat amazingly, I got 2!

Donegal Hibby

31-05-2023, 11:54 PM

Here's a wee quiz for you

Spot the ball quiz: Every Premier League team featured - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65674891)
Enjoyed that one 😀 . Will be honest and tell you I only got one right though 🤭 thanks for sharing though 👍

Hibbyradge

31-05-2023, 11:56 PM

Somewhat amazingly, I got 2!

Remarkably, so did I!

Donegal Hibby

01-06-2023, 12:13 AM

Somewhat amazingly, I got 2!

Remarkably, so did I!
Bu**ers ! Looks like I'm in relegation trouble 😂😂😂

WhileTheChief..

01-06-2023, 11:17 AM

3/10 :na na:

Bobby Moore

01-06-2023, 11:52 AM

Daily Record transfer news saying Josh Doig is Genoa’s top summer transfer target but no fee is mentioned in the piece.

badabing67

01-06-2023, 01:03 PM

Somewhat amazingly, I got 2!

So did I

h18eeynick

01-06-2023, 01:48 PM

Always liked Shaughnessy whenever I saw him play. Captain at St Mirren and at aged 30 has turned down new contract. Worth a couple of seasons I reckon. Strong ball winner and scores a few goals

AugustaHibs

01-06-2023, 01:49 PM

2.2 mil plus add ons and sell on % being mentioned as the fee by the EEN

skyehibee

01-06-2023, 01:53 PM

2.2 mil plus add ons and sell on % being mentioned as the fee by the EEN

Sounds more like it.

CallumLaidlaw

01-06-2023, 01:54 PM

2.2 mil plus add ons and sell on % being mentioned as the fee by the EEN

“Including” add ons.

So probably £1.5m with extras and a sell on.

Clearly leaked by Hibs after seeing the noise regarding the £1.2m

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BoomtownHibees

01-06-2023, 02:10 PM

“Including” add ons.

So probably £1.5m with extras and a sell on.

Clearly leaked by Hibs after seeing the noise regarding the £1.2m

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To be fair, it could be anything as the initial fee

AugustaHibs

01-06-2023, 02:11 PM

“Including” add ons.

So probably £1.5m with extras and a sell on.

Clearly leaked by Hibs after seeing the noise regarding the £1.2m

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Is it? Apologies I just quickly skimmed over it.

Pretty big difference mind you..

Hibs90

01-06-2023, 02:23 PM

“Including” add ons.

So probably £1.5m with extras and a sell on.

Clearly leaked by Hibs after seeing the noise regarding the £1.2m

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2mplus add ons would’ve been fine. Still don’t think that’s a good enough offer if the 2m is including potential add ons. Pretty poor IMO

Donegal Hibby

01-06-2023, 02:24 PM

Here's a wee quiz for you

Spot the ball quiz: Every Premier League team featured - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65674891)
And I thought I was bad a quizzes , some of the questions that's missed in this 🤣
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/carabao-90-2-challenge-with-matthew-hoppe-lewis-miller

1875godsgift

01-06-2023, 03:52 PM

Remarkably, so did I!

I would try it again, but I think I've peaked.

Dublin07

01-06-2023, 05:25 PM

So did I

4/10 for me

darwenhibby

01-06-2023, 06:06 PM

DIXIHIBS

01-06-2023, 06:13 PM

Here's a wee quiz for you

Spot the ball quiz: Every Premier League team featured - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65674891)

1/10. Didnt realise till near the end you got 3 attempts at each one!!

Hibbyradge

01-06-2023, 06:24 PM

1/10. Didnt realise till near the end you got 3 attempts at each one!!

I didn't know that 😂

Paul1642

01-06-2023, 06:26 PM

People I know who support Blackburn mentioned their interest last week
When I said we’d be looking for £2m plus % sell on they said that would put them out the running as they are skint
Wouldn’t be surprised if Burnley made an enquiry
They have done well with Fletcher and Arfield in the past

I have no idea about Championship clubs finances however I find it amazing that 2 million is thought as a lot of money for the club who finished 7th.

cameronw-hfc

01-06-2023, 06:29 PM

I have no idea about Championship clubs finances however I find it amazing that 2 million is thought as a lot of money for the club who finished 7th.

Championship is a strange one for money. To some clubs that's nothing, to a lot of them it would be a huge fee. Think Blackburn have been skint for a wee while though. The few fans I follow on twitter were pleasantly surprised how well they done this season.

darwenhibby

01-06-2023, 06:34 PM

I have no idea about Championship clubs finances however I find it amazing that 2 million is thought as a lot of money for the club who finished 7th.

It’s what the locals are saying around here mate.
In January Porteous was going there for £500k in one pub
Went in another it was £1m
He went for £350k and they weren’t in it
They have had bad business with some top players leaving on freedom of contract
They gambled not selling them to get to the Premier League and it did not come off

DJ HIBBY

01-06-2023, 08:05 PM

Hope we are looking at Dhanda from RC

bingo70

01-06-2023, 08:08 PM

Hope we are looking at Dhanda from RC

I’ve liked him when I’ve seen him too. That’s not been much though.

Paulie Walnuts

01-06-2023, 08:11 PM

Championship is a strange one for money. To some clubs that's nothing, to a lot of them it would be a huge fee. Think Blackburn have been skint for a wee while though. The few fans I follow on twitter were pleasantly surprised how well they done this season.

:agree:

A guy I work with is from down that way and he is delighted with this season. Thinks JDT has worked wonders with the hand he’s been dealt.

AlbertK86

01-06-2023, 08:41 PM

I’ve liked him when I’ve seen him too. That’s not been much though.

Been really poor last half hour. No from me

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JimBHibees

01-06-2023, 09:29 PM

Hope we are looking at Dhanda from RC

Hope not

Donegal Hibby

01-06-2023, 10:03 PM

Hope we are looking at Dhanda from RC
From what I've seen of him I don't think he'd improve or add anything to our midfield. We need better imo .

Trinity Hibee

01-06-2023, 10:05 PM

From what I've seen of him I don't think he'd improve or add anything to our midfield. We need better imo .

Agreed

California-Hibs

01-06-2023, 10:12 PM

From what I've seen of him I don't think he'd improve or add anything to our midfield. We need better imo .

Agreed! Stay well clear of him. No where near a Hibs player.

Libby Hibby

01-06-2023, 10:19 PM

Hope we are looking at Dhanda from RC

I think he would be a good addition, an upgrade on Henderson.

Unseen work

01-06-2023, 10:52 PM

Noticed ex hearts loanee Taylor Moore is now a free agent.

Played under Johnson at Bristol City.

Wonder if he’s one Johnson would go for. Versatile as can play centre back, right back and defensive midfielder

IIRC he was trying his hardest to play up to hearts fans though, especially in derbies. Not convinced they thought he was any good though.

04Sauzee

02-06-2023, 04:50 AM

Hope we are looking at Dhanda from RC

Kept a close eye on him last night and wasn't impressed at all, Tiffoney on the other hand...

Since452

02-06-2023, 05:54 AM

Kept a close eye on him last night and wasn't impressed at all, Tiffoney on the other hand...

I liked the look of Fitzpatrick. Powerful and good on the ball. Reminded me of Magennis.

Big_Franck

02-06-2023, 05:57 AM

Nicho87

02-06-2023, 06:15 AM

I liked the look of Fitzpatrick. Powerful and good on the ball. Reminded me of Magennis.

What minute did he pick up his injury

Hibernian Verse

02-06-2023, 07:19 AM

EGL2000

02-06-2023, 09:44 AM

Livi put a 1 mil price tag on joel nouble. Put's us out the running (if we were even interested), pleased with that.

Heisenberg

02-06-2023, 09:45 AM

Livi put a 1 mil price tag on joel nouble. Put's us out the running (if we were even interested), pleased with that.

Martindale also punting that they’ve had interest from the top league in France. If he ends up at that level I’ll be astonished.

Hibernian Verse

02-06-2023, 09:45 AM

Livi put a 1 mil price tag on joel nouble. Put's us out the running (if we were even interested), pleased with that.

They must be on drugs, no pun intended.

Donegal Hibby

02-06-2023, 10:04 AM

Livi put a 1 mil price tag on joel nouble. Put's us out the running (if we were even interested), pleased with that.
Martindale had put a £1mill prize tag on nouble before some on here started to say we should sign him which is why I suggested if we were going to spend money I'd rather we tried Van Veen instead though this was said to be arrrogance on my part .

bingo70

02-06-2023, 10:12 AM

Martindale had put a £1mill prize tag on nouble before some on here started to say we should sign him which is why I suggested if we were going to spend money I'd rather we tried Van Veen instead though this was said to be arrrogance on my part .

That was by me and I still stand by that.

It’s a suggestion that doesn’t make any sense in the real world. The idea that we can just go and take one of our rivals best players with no consideration for the financial realities behind such a transfer is a bit arrogant IMO. As if we could just go and get him, implies we are far bigger and wealthier than we actually are.

Smartie

02-06-2023, 10:36 AM

That was by me and I still stand by that.

It’s a suggestion that doesn’t make any sense in the real world. The idea that we can just go and take one of our rivals best players with no consideration for the financial realities behind such a transfer is a bit arrogant IMO. As if we could just go and get him, implies we are far bigger and wealthier than we actually are.

It's for this reason that I actually find it very hard to suggest realistic transfers I'd like Hibs to make nowadays.

Players who would obviously improve us, we can't afford.

Players we can afford would often be a downgrade on who we currently have.

When the likes of Nisbet and Shankland were scoring goals in the Championship, they seemed like obvious suggestions but there don't seem to be many players out there like that now.

I couldn't believe the interest in McCart from St Johnstone, who has looked pish almost every time I've seen him play.

So whilst I like to (rightly) slaughter our recruitment as much as anyone, I certainly acknowledge that it isn't exactly an easy job.

Lago

02-06-2023, 10:41 AM

:agree:

A guy I work with is from down that way and he is delighted with this season. Thinks JDT has worked wonders with the hand he’s been dealt.
Hand he's been dealt? Thought he was brought into get promotion, sounds like an excuse for a mid table finish.

Donegal Hibby

02-06-2023, 10:48 AM

That was by me and I still stand by that.

It’s a suggestion that doesn’t make any sense in the real world. The idea that we can just go and take one of our rivals best players with no consideration for the financial realities behind such a transfer is a bit arrogant IMO. As if we could just go and get him, implies we are far bigger and wealthier than we actually are.

We are actually a bigger club than Motherwell and with Nisbet going and maybe Doig too I'd imagine we would also be wealthier as well .

When Martindale slapped 1 mill price tag on nouble there was folk on here afterwards wanting to sign him ( I didn't btw) which got me wondering what price realistically would Livingston accept for him , £250, 000 , £300,000 or more ? . That kinda money I'd rather we tried for Van Veen with maybe even with a player thrown in as well .

I know in all likelihood that we probably wouldn't get Van Veen though if it came down to spending a decent bit of cash I'd rather we at least explored the possibility of it rather than chucking cash out for a striker that doesn't score often. Nothing arrogant about it at all .

CapitalGreen

02-06-2023, 10:51 AM

Hand he's been dealt? Thought he was brought into get promotion, sounds like an excuse for a mid table finish.

Blackburn ended up on the same amount of points as the did last season scoring less goals. Since the World Cup they have went on 2 separate poor runs of 1 win in 11 games and 2 wins in 12 games. They also brought in a highly rated DoF like he demanded.

Hibee Daft

02-06-2023, 10:51 AM

It's for this reason that I actually find it very hard to suggest realistic transfers I'd like Hibs to make nowadays.

Players who would obviously improve us, we can't afford.

Players we can afford would often be a downgrade on who we currently have.

When the likes of Nisbet and Shankland were scoring goals in the Championship, they seemed like obvious suggestions but there don't seem to be many players out there like that now.

I couldn't believe the interest in McCart from St Johnstone, who has looked pish almost every time I've seen him play.

So whilst I like to (rightly) slaughter our recruitment as much as anyone, I certainly acknowledge that it isn't exactly an easy job.

How aboit Diop Akinyemi

20 goals, 7 assists in 36 games for Ayr

CapitalGreen

02-06-2023, 10:53 AM

We are actually a bigger club than Motherwell and with Nisbet going and maybe Doig too I'd imagine we would also be wealthier as well .

When Martindale slapped 1 mill price tag on nouble there was folk on here afterwards wanting to sign him ( I didn't btw) which got me wondering what price realistically would Livingston accept for him , £250, 000 , £300,000 or more ? . That kinda money I'd rather we tried for Van Veen with maybe even with a player thrown in as well .

I know in all likelihood that we probably wouldn't get Van Veen though if it came down to spending a decent bit of cash I'd rather we at least explored the possibility of it rather than chucking cash out for a striker that doesn't score often. Nothing arrogant about it at all .

You’d also be looking £750k-£1m in wages over 3 years, there is no way we are giving that to a 32 on the back of a purple patch.

Since452

02-06-2023, 11:06 AM

Since452

02-06-2023, 11:10 AM

Blackburn ended up on the same amount of points as the did last season scoring less goals. Since the World Cup they have went on 2 separate poor runs of 1 win in 11 games and 2 wins in 12 games. They also brought in a highly rated DoF like he demanded.

I don't think JDT has set the heather alight at Blackburn at all. Pretty mediocre.

bingo70

02-06-2023, 11:13 AM

We are actually a bigger club than Motherwell and with Nisbet going and maybe Doig too I'd imagine we would also be wealthier as well .

When Martindale slapped 1 mill price tag on nouble there was folk on here afterwards wanting to sign him ( I didn't btw) which got me wondering what price realistically would Livingston accept for him , £250, 000 , £300,000 or more ? . That kinda money I'd rather we tried for Van Veen with maybe even with a player thrown in as well .

I know in all likelihood that we probably wouldn't get Van Veen though if it came down to spending a decent bit of cash I'd rather we at least explored the possibility of it rather than chucking cash out for a striker that doesn't score often. Nothing arrogant about it at all .

First line highlights why I think it’s arrogant.

So what if we’re a bigger club? Even if we are wealthier are you just expecting Motherwell to roll over and get their belly tickled because we’ve decided we want their best player? They would play hard ball and quite rightly so too.

Hibernian Verse

02-06-2023, 11:25 AM

Just_Jimmy

02-06-2023, 11:27 AM

How aboit Diop Akinyemi

20 goals, 7 assists in 36 games for AyrI don't know anything about him but I'd be interested in knowing more based on those stats.

Exactly the kind of stuff we should be looking at.

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CapitalGreen

02-06-2023, 11:27 AM

I don't think JDT has set the heather alight at Blackburn at all. Pretty mediocre.

Not at all, especially when you consider the guy he replaced finished above him with a newly promoted team.

Smartie

02-06-2023, 11:27 AM

How aboit Diop Akinyemi

20 goals, 7 assists in 36 games for Ayr

Yeah, his stats look decent but whenever I’ve watched their Friday night games I’ve not been that impressed by him.

The lad Tiffoney at Thistle looks the closest to being a realistic target to me.

My opinion is this is best ignored though because Brian Graham has probably been the player who has impressed me most in that league lately. 😂

Donegal Hibby

02-06-2023, 11:43 AM

First line highlights why I think it’s arrogant.

So what if we’re a bigger club? Even if we are wealthier are you just expecting Motherwell to roll over and get their belly tickled because we’ve decided we want their best player? They would play hard ball and quite rightly so too.

Of course not ! I wouldn't expect Motherwell to just roll over and get there belly tickled because we want there best player and your the only one suggesting that . It would be a incredible hard deal to do and would cost us a fair bit of cash as well .

Though if I thought there was any possibility of getting Van Veen over nouble even if it did cost us more I'd certainly want us to at least try and see if there was a deal to be done .

We are going to have to get a decent goalscoring striker in and get some quality players in different positions in our team if we are going to challenge for 3rd next season. You have said you liked the Ross county lad and main of St mirren , these two players aren't going to help get us 3rd place imo. Our signings will have to be much better than that if we are going to compete with Aberdeen and hertz next season

easty

02-06-2023, 12:05 PM

I don't know anything about him but I'd be interested in knowing more based on those stats.

Exactly the kind of stuff we should be looking at.

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He must be decent to get that return, but everytime I saw him on TV he was pretty *****.

Unseen work

02-06-2023, 12:19 PM

How aboit Diop Akinyemi

20 goals, 7 assists in 36 games for Ayr

Did he not start off on fire and then tail off quite significantly the second half of the season?

Feel like he wasn’t a million miles off 20 at Christmas time, could be wrong!

04Sauzee

02-06-2023, 12:36 PM

Did he not start off on fire and then tail off quite significantly the second half of the season?

Feel like he wasn’t a million miles off 20 at Christmas time, could be wrong!
9 goals since 23rd December.

Maybe seen him 4 times this season on TV and keep an eye on him because of the chat about him and haven't seen anything that would make me think he should be at Hibs tbh.

Donegal Hibby

02-06-2023, 12:51 PM

You’d also be looking £750k-£1m in wages over 3 years, there is no way we are giving that to a 32 on the back of a purple patch.
I don't know what Van Veen is on at Motherwell , I wouldn't have thought it would have been big bucks though . I suppose if he did move you'd have to give him a good wage alright though if he got us the 25 goals he's got for Motherwell which he should imo playing with Boyle and Youan our chances of 3rd would be good and the rewards of that would pay for itself in the long run .

This has all came about basically because some wanted to sign nouble after Martindale slapped a 1 million price tag on him and I'd rather see us try and sign Van Veen for 400,000 than nouble at 300,000 . I don't think we will sign either btw and honestly hope we are nowhere near Joel nouble TBH .

Billy Whizz

02-06-2023, 01:02 PM

I don't know what Van Veen is on at Motherwell , I wouldn't have thought it would have been big bucks though . I suppose if he did move you'd have to give him a good wage alright though if he got us the 25 goals he's got for Motherwell which he should imo playing with Boyle and Youan our chances of 3rd would be good and the rewards of that would pay for itself in the long run .

This has all came about basically because some wanted to sign nouble after Martindale slapped a 1 million price tag on him and I'd rather see us try and sign Van Veen for 400,000 than nouble at 300,000 . I don't think we will sign either btw and honestly hope we are nowhere near Joel nouble TBH .

I like Van Veen, apart from being a goalscorer, he’s got a bit of physicality about him too, takes no nonsense
I think he’s looking for one last big payday though. Is this the wisest way to use the KN money?

007

02-06-2023, 01:05 PM

Hibee Daft

02-06-2023, 01:15 PM

Van Veen is clearly a good player but he is 32... if we got him for relatively cheap he'd be a good stop gap player for guys like Josh O'connor to hopefully fill their boots in a season or so.

badabing67

02-06-2023, 01:20 PM

PSG replacing Neymar who's going to Man Utd. 🤔

Is he, where did you see that?

badabing67

02-06-2023, 01:25 PM

Another wee quiz = I got 5

Quiz: Can you name these Scottish Cup final match winners? - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57155516)

Conj

02-06-2023, 01:40 PM

Another wee quiz = I got 5

Quiz: Can you name these Scottish Cup final match winners? - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57155516)

11/11

Trinity Hibee

02-06-2023, 01:46 PM

Hibs are on alert for a seven-figure transfer windfall following fresh reports linking Josh Doig with a move this summer – this time to Serie A new boys Genoa

eastmainsmsh

02-06-2023, 01:46 PM

Think Groningen keen on Well goal Machine

Bridge hibs

02-06-2023, 01:49 PM

Hibs are on alert for a seven-figure transfer windfall following fresh reports linking Josh Doig with a move this summer – this time to Serie A new boys Genoa
Nice one, still waiting on the John McGinn windfall 🫣

Paulie Walnuts

02-06-2023, 01:50 PM

Hand he's been dealt? Thought he was brought into get promotion, sounds like an excuse for a mid table finish.

He’s just lead them to their best finish since they dropped out the EPL over a decade ago.

I’ve no idea what his remit was but he’s pretty happy with how he’s done. Having had a look at the statement Blackburn released when they appointed him there’s no mention of him getting them back to the EPL this season.

Bridge hibs

02-06-2023, 01:52 PM

Think Groningen keen on Well goal Machine

Are they financially well off, or for another matter could they outbid hibs ?

Only if we were interested of course, a wee makeweight offering Melkerson may sway it and we could offer Motherwell 99% of any sell on fee for Van Veen 😀

007

02-06-2023, 01:54 PM

Is he, where did you see that?

All sorts of speculation going on.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=neymar+man+utd&sxsrf=APwXEddaBdgZQof1Ic8XuklC2MM1tFdG6g%3A1685713 785616&source=hp&ei=efN5ZKulI4aLgAb5wo2gCg&oq=&gs_lcp=ChFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocBABGAIyBwgjEOoCECc yBwgjEOoCECcyBwgjEOoCECcyBwgjEOoCECcyBwgjEOoCECcyB wgjEOoCECcyBwgjEOoCECcyDQguEMcBENEDEOoCECcyBwgjEOo CECcyBwguEOoCECcyBwgjEOoCECcyBwguEOoCECcyBwguEOoCE CcyBwgjEOoCECcyBwgjEOoCECdQAFgAYOoRaAFwAHgAgAEAiAE AkgEAmAEAsAEP&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp#ip=1&scso=_ffN5ZPK-JJOWgQbhobigAQ_48:0

(Presumably you're asking about the Neymar to Man Utd bit and not Nouble to replace him.) 😃

Donegal Hibby

02-06-2023, 01:58 PM

I like Van Veen, apart from being a goalscorer, he’s got a bit of physicality about him too, takes no nonsense
I think he’s looking for one last big payday though. Is this the wisest way to use the KN money?
I don't think it would be tbh and I'd imagine we will be looking elsewhere . The English market has a inflated value on players and not a easy one for Scottish clubs to do business in , could see us signing some foreign striker with a good pedigree though.

Donegal Hibby

02-06-2023, 02:04 PM

Another wee quiz = I got 5

Quiz: Can you name these Scottish Cup final match winners? - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57155516)
Got 9 . Had a few lucky guesses tbh

Donegal Hibby

02-06-2023, 02:13 PM

Matt Macy moving to Pompey possibly? . Says we have a sell on clause too in article
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/the-transfer-fee-portsmouth-can-expect-to-pay-luton-for-goalkeeper-matt-macey-plus-one-other-stumbling-block-that-potentially-lies-in-wait-4167763

SonOfDavidFrancey

02-06-2023, 02:20 PM

Got 9 . Had a few lucky guesses tbh

9 for me too, the pictures were helpful

EGL2000

02-06-2023, 02:34 PM

Are they financially well off, or for another matter could they outbid hibs ?

Only if we were interested of course, a wee makeweight offering Melkerson may sway it and we could offer Motherwell 99% of any sell on fee for Van Veen 😀

They actually went down this season. Usually would say they could out bid us easily, but might be struggling with finances after relegation l.

badabing67

02-06-2023, 03:00 PM

All sorts of speculation going on.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=neymar+man+utd&sxsrf=APwXEddaBdgZQof1Ic8XuklC2MM1tFdG6g%3A1685713 785616&source=hp&ei=efN5ZKulI4aLgAb5wo2gCg&oq=&gs_lcp=ChFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocBABGAIyBwgjEOoCECc yBwgjEOoCECcyBwgjEOoCECcyBwgjEOoCECcyBwgjEOoCECcyB wgjEOoCECcyBwgjEOoCECcyDQguEMcBENEDEOoCECcyBwgjEOo CECcyBwguEOoCECcyBwgjEOoCECcyBwguEOoCECcyBwguEOoCE CcyBwgjEOoCECcyBwgjEOoCECdQAFgAYOoRaAFwAHgAgAEAiAE AkgEAmAEAsAEP&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp#ip=1&scso=_ffN5ZPK-JJOWgQbhobigAQ_48:0

(Presumably you're asking about the Neymar to Man Utd bit and not Nouble to replace him.) 😃

Yeah Arsenal rumoured as well, also seen we could get a sell on if Luton sell Macy to Pommy

The transfer fee Portsmouth can expect to pay Luton for goalkeeper Matt Macey - plus one other stumbling block that potentially lies in wait | The News (https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/the-transfer-fee-portsmouth-can-expect-to-pay-luton-for-goalkeeper-matt-macey-plus-one-other-stumbling-block-that-potentially-lies-in-wait-4167763)

Percy Vere

02-06-2023, 04:51 PM

Van Veen is clearly a good player but he is 32... if we got him for relatively cheap he'd be a good stop gap player for guys like Josh O'connor to hopefully fill their boots in a season or so.

Age is irrelevant. If he gave us one or two seasons like the one he’s just had for Motherwell I’d be highly delighted. He seems to be a fit guy, a good striker to help bring in the young lads. No brainer imo

easty

02-06-2023, 05:36 PM

Age is irrelevant. If he gave us one or two seasons like the one he’s just had for Motherwell I’d be highly delighted. He seems to be a fit guy, a good striker to help bring in the young lads. No brainer imo

Thing is this season is the outlier for him, he's never come close to doing it previously. Last season he had more yellow cards than goals. The season before he was in League 2 with Scunthorpe, he went 18 games without a goal before signing for Motherwell.

I don't know anything about him being good for helping the young lads either, has he done that with any Motherwell young strikers?

You cannae knock the guy for what he did this season, it's outstanding, especially towards the end of the season, but I'd be in absolutely nae rush to sign him, or pay money to sign him. I don't think we'll be paying any transfer fees for players his age anyway. It's not good business for Hibs.

Donegal Hibby

02-06-2023, 06:03 PM

Thing is this season is the outlier for him, he's never come close to doing it previously. Last season he had more yellow cards than goals. The season before he was in League 2 with Scunthorpe, he went 18 games without a goal before signing for Motherwell.

I don't know anything about him being good for helping the young lads either, has he done that with any Motherwell young strikers?

You cannae knock the guy for what he did this season, it's outstanding, especially towards the end of the season, but I'd be in absolutely nae rush to sign him, or pay money to sign him. I don't think we'll be paying any transfer fees for players his age anyway. It's not good business for Hibs.

A lot of what you say is correct about him not hitting the heights of this season before and I only wanted him over nouble tbh who was also going to cost money.

Even at 32 if we did sign him and he scored as many goals as he did for Motherwell ( 25 ) and we finished third would you not consider his signing as good business by hibs though?

supermcginn

02-06-2023, 06:29 PM

jacomo

02-06-2023, 06:39 PM

A lot of what you say is correct about him not hitting the heights of this season before and I only wanted him over nouble tbh who was also going to cost money.

Even at 32 if we did sign him and he scored as many goals as he did for Motherwell ( 25 ) and we finished third would you not consider his signing as good business by hibs though?

Bizarre. If any player scored 25 goals for us of course he would be considered a good signing. The question is whether he’s capable of doing that or not.

I worry that Van Veen is the sort of signing we often make: a 30 something striker has a great season with another Scottish club, but struggles to replicate that form in our shirt.

easty

02-06-2023, 06:50 PM

A lot of what you say is correct about him not hitting the heights of this season before and I only wanted him over nouble tbh who was also going to cost money.

Even at 32 if we did sign him and he scored as many goals as he did for Motherwell ( 25 ) and we finished third would you not consider his signing as good business by hibs though?

If it was guaranteed then it’d be a no brainier, and Hibs would probably happily pay double what he’s worth for that, but it cannae be guaranteed.

He’d be just as likely to get 9-10 goals as he is 19-20, and if it didn’t work out first season, or even first half of first season we’d be looking to bin him and he’d have been a very expensive mistake with little to no sell on value.

Billy Whizz

02-06-2023, 07:29 PM

CJ update, poor lad has had an op. Reading this maybe shouldn’t have played against Celtic

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/content/egan-riley-determined-to-come-back-stronger

andrew70

02-06-2023, 07:31 PM

How aboit Diop Akinyemi

20 goals, 7 assists in 36 games for Ayr

We scouted him several times before the winter window.

Indeed it was said we’d went as far as making an offer.

He’s tailed off a lot since though.

Donegal Hibby

02-06-2023, 09:33 PM

If it was guaranteed then it’d be a no brainier, and Hibs would probably happily pay double what he’s worth for that, but it cannae be guaranteed.

He’d be just as likely to get 9-10 goals as he is 19-20, and if it didn’t work out first season, or even first half of first season we’d be looking to bin him and he’d have been a very expensive mistake with little to no sell on value.
I suppose it couldn't be guaranteed as this has been a season were he's scored a lot of goals which he's not done before and the points you make about him being expensive and with little or no sell on value I totally understand . I do think if we get a decent striker in and he's playing with Youan and Boyle either side of him he will score goals though.

JamesHFC

02-06-2023, 09:35 PM

Expect a couple more loans from England.

Hibernian Verse

02-06-2023, 10:00 PM

Expect a couple more loans from England.

A market I’m comfortable with, as long as they are of the standard of Fish and CJ.

Dmas

03-06-2023, 05:42 AM

Age is irrelevant. If he gave us one or two seasons like the one he’s just had for Motherwell I’d be highly delighted. He seems to be a fit guy, a good striker to help bring in the young lads. No brainer imo

He’s had the best season of his life this year never had a goal scoring season like it the evidence doesn’t show he’s capable of 1 or 2 seasons more of that, I’d be happy picking him up on a free but to pay a fee for him is a gamble imo I know there’s a bit more to his game than goals but we need to try and replace nisbets goals paying money for a guy who’s as much chance of scoring 4 as he does scoring 15 won’t help

whiskyhibby

03-06-2023, 08:34 AM

Thing is this season is the outlier for him, he's never come close to doing it previously. Last season he had more yellow cards than goals. The season before he was in League 2 with Scunthorpe, he went 18 games without a goal before signing for Motherwell.

I don't know anything about him being good for helping the young lads either, has he done that with any Motherwell young strikers?

You cannae knock the guy for what he did this season, it's outstanding, especially towards the end of the season, but I'd be in absolutely nae rush to sign him, or pay money to sign him. I don't think we'll be paying any transfer fees for players his age anyway. It's not good business for Hibs.

Couldn’t agree more, we shouldn’t be investing transfer fees when there is no realistic ability to develop a player and sell on for a profit

Allant1981

03-06-2023, 09:03 AM

Couldn’t agree more, we shouldn’t be investing transfer fees when there is no realistic ability to develop a player and sell on for a profit

How do you know you are going to sell for profit though, there is no guarantee in any transfer, does that mean we should never pay a fee for a player

JimBHibees

03-06-2023, 09:13 AM

A market I’m comfortable with, as long as they are of the standard of Fish and CJ.

Agree higher level players than we can afford to buy

whiskyhibby

03-06-2023, 09:45 AM

How do you know you are going to sell for profit though, there is no guarantee in any transfer, does that mean we should never pay a fee for a player

He is now 32 , even if he stays for 1 year only he will be 33, which teams are going to buy him at that age…….unless it’s a nominal sum

Donegal Hibby

03-06-2023, 10:04 AM

He is now 32 , even if he stays for 1 year only he will be 33, which teams are going to buy him at that age…….unless it’s a nominal sum
I'm not saying we should try buy him here though look at it this way if we did sign him for a transfer fee and he's banging in goals and we get 3rd that will more than make up his transfer fee or cover any money lost on losing out on a resale value for him and personally I think you'd get 2 to 3 good years out of him .

Signing players with the potential to develop and sell on does work ( mcginn , Nisbet and more ) though it can be a long process too at times too ( Tait , melkersen, McKay , Jair ) . We have to push for 3rd this season and need to be signing players ready to hit the ground running imo .

Silky

03-06-2023, 10:21 AM

A market I’m comfortable with, as long as they are of the standard of Fish and CJ.

Absolutely. I think there are some real finds down there. CJ and Fish have been great loans. They both seemed to embrace the club as well. Hopefully with McDermott as DOF between him and LJ we can make the most of it.

Paulie Walnuts

03-06-2023, 10:41 AM

I'm not saying we should try buy him here though look at it this way if we did sign him for a transfer fee and he's banging in goals and we get 3rd that will more than make up his transfer fee or cover any money lost on losing out on a resale value for him and personally I think you'd get 2 to 3 good years out of him .

Signing players with the potential to develop and sell on does work ( mcginn , Nisbet and more ) though it can be a long process too at times too ( Tait , melkersen, McKay , Jair ) . We have to push for 3rd this season and need to be signing players ready to hit the ground running imo .

I can’t see any way we’d get 2-3 good years out him. There can’t be many players that have been as good as he was last season that have done it into their mid 30s in our league.

If I was a betting man I’d put money on him not scoring more than low double figures next season.

Donegal Hibby

03-06-2023, 11:08 AM

I can’t see any way we’d get 2-3 good years out him. There can’t be many players that have been as good as he was last season that have done it into their mid 30s in our league.

If I was a betting man I’d put money on him not scoring more than low double figures next season.
Can't see why not tbh . Players are probably looking after themselves better now which is why there's so many playing well into there 30s .Hayes , Considine, Mulgrew , Davis and power , you also have fletcher and arfield who some posters would take at Hibs btw . Being 32 doesn't mean your finished and can't play on at a good level for another few seasons imo . It's a possibility that he might not score more than low double figures for Motherwell next season though if he was at us playing with Boyle and Youan I'd bet he'd score 15 plus no probs .

Smartie

03-06-2023, 11:12 AM

Can't see why not tbh . Players are probably looking after themselves better now which is why there's so many playing well into there 30s .Hayes , Considine, Mulgrew , Davis and power , you also have fletcher and arfield who some posters would take at Hibs btw . Being 32 doesn't mean your finished and can't play on at a good level for another few seasons imo . It's a possibility that he might not score more than low double figures for Motherwell next season though if he was at us playing with Boyle and Youan I'd bet he'd score 15 plus no probs .

I don’t think the issue is necessarily his current ability or whether or not he could do it for another 2-3 years - it’s whether or not that would be worth the money Motherwell will understandably be looking for to part with a contracted player with an excellent recent record.

If he was on a free it would be a no brainer. If we’re to be parting with cash, especially if it’s a hefty sum of cash by our standards then we’ll be wanting that cash back and more when the player moves on. There is zero chance of that happening with van Veen.

PHeffernan

03-06-2023, 11:27 AM

Can't see why not tbh . Players are probably looking after themselves better now which is why there's so many playing well into there 30s .Hayes , Considine, Mulgrew , Davis and power , you also have fletcher and arfield who some posters would take at Hibs btw . Being 32 doesn't mean your finished and can't play on at a good level for another few seasons imo . It's a possibility that he might not score more than low double figures for Motherwell next season though if he was at us playing with Boyle and Youan I'd bet he'd score 15 plus no probs .

34 is the new 32.
If Hibs could get Van Veen for £300k it would be worth doing.
Losing the high quality striker that Nisbet is will hurt us bad.
The goals of Van Veen would help cushion that and we can spend the rest of the money more sensibly.
We need to replace Nisbet and Fish well just to stand still.

Paulie Walnuts

03-06-2023, 11:33 AM

Can't see why not tbh . Players are probably looking after themselves better now which is why there's so many playing well into there 30s .Hayes , Considine, Mulgrew , Davis and power , you also have fletcher and arfield who some posters would take at Hibs btw . Being 32 doesn't mean your finished and can't play on at a good level for another few seasons imo . It's a possibility that he might not score more than low double figures for Motherwell next season though if he was at us playing with Boyle and Youan I'd bet he'd score 15 plus no probs .

Considine turned 34 and hardly played for Aberdeen and was then released to go play for St Johnstone, Mulgrew came up here at 34 and has been garbage. Hayes, Davis and Arfield have been good but they’re starting from a much higher level of ability than Van Veen. Power is 35 and kicking about the bottom of the league and wouldn’t be anywhere near good enough for us.

Brightside

03-06-2023, 12:10 PM

whiskyhibby

03-06-2023, 12:17 PM

I don’t think the issue is necessarily his current ability or whether or not he could do it for another 2-3 years - it’s whether or not that would be worth the money Motherwell will understandably be looking for to part with a contracted player with an excellent recent record.

If he was on a free it would be a no brainer. If we’re to be parting with cash, especially if it’s a hefty sum of cash by our standards then we’ll be wanting that cash back and more when the player moves on. There is zero chance of that happening with van Veen.

Completely agree if the sum was say up to £75k I would say go for it, but nothing above that level

EGL2000

03-06-2023, 12:33 PM

Absolutely. I think there are some real finds down there. CJ and Fish have been great loans. They both seemed to embrace the club as well. Hopefully with McDermott as DOF between him and LJ we can make the most of it.

The only problem with this is you are constantly needing to rebuild every year. I accept you can find better quality. However I think our core squad was heavily reliant on loans this season, don't want this again. Sprinkle a few quality ones in but can't be relying on them.

Donegal Hibby

03-06-2023, 12:40 PM

34 is the new 32.
If Hibs could get Van Veen for £300k it would be worth doing.
Losing the high quality striker that Nisbet is will hurt us bad.
The goals of Van Veen would help cushion that and we can spend the rest of the money more sensibly.
We need to replace Nisbet and Fish well just to stand still.
I agree for £300k it would be worth doing . You could even offer one of the players we are trying to offload as a sweetener as well if they were interested of course . A frontline of Youan , Van Veen , Boyle would be tasty and I think would get you goals . What I've seen of van Veen this year is he has plenty of stamina and there's no reason he couldn't do a job for us for a couple of season.

Donegal Hibby

03-06-2023, 01:00 PM

Considine turned 34 and hardly played for Aberdeen and was then released to go play for St Johnstone, Mulgrew came up here at 34 and has been garbage. Hayes, Davis and Arfield have been good but they’re starting from a much higher level of ability than Van Veen. Power is 35 and kicking about the bottom of the league and wouldn’t be anywhere near good enough for us.
I'm not saying we should sign any of them though they are examples of players that are playing will into there 30s . Earlier this season on here there were quite a few calling both Hanlon and Stevenson out as being finished and yet imo they have been two of our most consistently good performers this season ,one coming 34 and the other coming 36 . There's no reason why a 32 year old couldn't play for another 2 or 3 years if he's looked after himself tbh .

Paulie Walnuts

03-06-2023, 01:11 PM

I'm not saying we should sign any of them though they are examples of players that are playing will into there 30s . Earlier this season on here there were quite a few calling both Hanlon and Stevenson out as being finished and yet imo they have been two of our most consistently good performers this season ,one coming 34 and the other coming 36 . There's no reason why a 32 year old couldn't play for another 2 or 3 years if he's looked after himself tbh .

Nobody is suggesting he literally won’t be able to play though. Just that he more likely than not won’t be all that good. We wouldn’t be paying a fee in the hope he’s simply able to play, we’d be paying a fee hoping he’d be a very good player.

All the guys you listed earlier were well into their decline at 34/35. Van Veen isn’t of the quality to decline and still be a cracking player in the same way guys like Arfield, Davis etc have been.

People are listing fees of £300k for the guy. That is pure arrogance to think we could take him off Motherwell for that. They’ll be wanting much, much more than that.

Bridge hibs

03-06-2023, 01:18 PM

Nobody is suggesting he literally won’t be able to play though. Just that he more likely than not won’t be all that good. We wouldn’t be paying a fee in the hope he’s simply able to play, we’d be paying a fee hoping he’d be a very good player.

All the guys you listed earlier were well into their decline at 34/35. Van Veen isn’t of the quality to decline and still be a cracking player in the same way guys like Arfield, Davis etc have been.

People are listing fees of £300k for the guy. That is pure arrogance to think we could take him off Motherwell for that. They’ll be wanting much, much more than that.I dont think its arrogance, hibs would probably offer less than he is worth based on his wages, age and current contract situation. Its been done to us over the years and no doubt Motherwell have done likewise when trying to sign players in the past

Paulie Walnuts

03-06-2023, 01:22 PM

I dont think its arrogance, hibs would probably offer less than he is worth based on his wages, age and current contract situation. Its been done to us over the years and no doubt Motherwell have done likewise when trying to sign players in the past

And Motherwell would knock it back. They simply won’t be taking £300k for a guy that’s just scored nearly 30 goals for them from a team they’ll be competing with next year.

Bridge hibs

03-06-2023, 01:25 PM

And Motherwell would knock it back. They simply won’t be taking £300k for a guy that’s just scored nearly 30 goals for them from a team they’ll be competing with next year.

Unless he rocks the boat and asks to leave, Well wont want to keep an unhappy player, not just to hibs btw

I dont think we are interested, just for balance

tonyrougier123

03-06-2023, 06:01 PM

McD

03-06-2023, 06:21 PM

And Motherwell would knock it back. They simply won’t be taking £300k for a guy that’s just scored nearly 30 goals for them from a team they’ll be competing with next year.

:agree:

their fans would riot if he was sold for 300k

we’ve got fans going nuts about possibly selling nisbet for a million odds, and some saying it’d be better to keep KN for a final season rather than sell for such a low fee. That’s exactly what Motherwell would say. They’d absolutely ga,now on him keeping fit, and scoring the goals to boost the, up the table, not to mention merchandise/shirt sales with his name

Paulie Walnuts

03-06-2023, 06:27 PM

The van Veen chat is electric on here. If he’s at well next season be lucky to reach double figures. They’d be much better off cashing in. Freak season never be repeated by him. Reminds me of the clamour for Stevie mallan.

Agree.

He’d be a poor-average signing on the pitch imo as his career suggests he won’t have another season like this again and a god awful signing financially.

SHODAN

03-06-2023, 06:53 PM

badabing67

03-06-2023, 07:01 PM

We still have Dan Mackay who I think might do a job for us he is still young

JammyDoidger

03-06-2023, 08:34 PM

As things stand our best XI is probably (assuming Nisbet goes and Cadden is out long-term):

Marshall

Miller Bushiri Hanlon Stevenson

Jeggo

Doyle-Hayes Newell

Campbell

Boyle Youan

Not the worst, but not the best either. I assume we will be trying to either move on or loan Cabraja, Magennis, Doidge, Tavares, Henderson, Melkersen, MacKay, Tait, Hauge and McClelland at a minimum, leaving us with a squad of 14 fit players as things stand.

Also, if you'd told anyone at the start of the last season that the Doyle-Hayes/Campbell/Newell dream team would still be a thing they'd probably have screamed in despair, but to be fair all three have greatly improved.

That's bottom 6 material that, brutal

Paulie Walnuts

03-06-2023, 08:45 PM

Bushwoof

03-06-2023, 09:14 PM

The van Veen chat is electric on here. If he’s at well next season be lucky to reach double figures. They’d be much better off cashing in. Freak season never be repeated by him. Reminds me of the clamour for Stevie mallan.
I'm thinking more Sam Cosgrove. He looked a real player for one season. It happens.

Unseen work

03-06-2023, 10:13 PM

Hopefully European football gives us s but more money and incentive to lure decent players to the club.

MWHIBBIES

03-06-2023, 10:24 PM

Hopefully European football gives us s but more money and incentive to lure decent players to the club.

Sadly, it never has before. Hibs being in Europe usually lines up with a dreadful transfer window.

Brightside

04-06-2023, 08:32 AM

That team is dug meat.

I’d be interested to know what the JDH, Newell, Campbell trio have contributed together as a 3 this season.

Not sure how often they’ve played together but if that’s what we have as a serious option for our 3 next season then I already can’t wait for 24/25.

Think they played against Celtic when we won. 😂. But it doesn’t matter. That will not be our team.

CapitalGreen

04-06-2023, 08:55 AM

Think they played against Celtic when we won. 😂. But it doesn’t matter. That will not be our team.

Newell went off when we were losing 2-1

Paulie Walnuts

04-06-2023, 09:07 AM

Think they played against Celtic when we won. 😂. But it doesn’t matter. That will not be our team.

They played for 28 minutes that game. Was 0-1 when Campbell came on, then we equalised and fell straight back behind 1-2. Newell went off and then we scored our 3 goals.

Hibby Kay-Yay

04-06-2023, 09:07 AM

That's bottom 6 material that, brutal

The sentence started with ‘as things stand…’ We will bring in players.

eastmainsmsh

04-06-2023, 09:45 AM

I'm thinking more Sam Cosgrove. He looked a real player for one season. It happens.

Think he has been released by birmingham

04Sauzee

04-06-2023, 10:13 AM

Think he has been released by birmingham

Looks like he has another year left on his contract. If anything he'd be made available for transfer.
Think Birmingham want to look at him again during the summer.

007

04-06-2023, 10:14 AM

They played for 28 minutes that game. Was 0-1 when Campbell came on, then we equalised and fell straight back behind 1-2. Newell went off and then we scored our 3 goals.

So it's just our player's and fan's POTY that's dug meat. 🤔

eastmainsmsh

04-06-2023, 10:29 AM

Looks like he has another year left on his contract. If anything he'd be made available for transfer.
Think Birmingham want to look at him again during the summer.

Good player as well

Paulie Walnuts

04-06-2023, 10:41 AM

So it's just our player's and fan's POTY that's dug meat. 🤔

I never said that, I said the 11 listed was.

SHODAN

04-06-2023, 11:29 AM

That's bottom 6 material that, brutal

It would win fairly comfortably against any of our recent bottom six teams.

GloryGlory

04-06-2023, 12:20 PM

Another name - played for LJ previously:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/morgan-feeney-under-hibs-transfer-30150842

Stuart93

04-06-2023, 12:31 PM

Another name - played for LJ previously:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/morgan-feeney-under-hibs-transfer-30150842

“Hearts and Aberdeen are also interested” 🥱 that’ll be the whole summer we’ll be hearing that

Bridge hibs

04-06-2023, 12:51 PM

“Hearts and Aberdeen are also interested” 🥱 that’ll be the whole summer we’ll be hearing that

Aye but he has a hamstring injury, we will be favourites then 😀

brog

04-06-2023, 01:16 PM

I actually think LJ's preferred option is a flexible 3 up front. I would have liked to see McGeady, Nisbet and Boyle play together. Right now we could have an interesting and very fast front 3 of Boyle, Youan and Mackay. I suspect however we will sign an out and out striker, and we have many forward options, though probably quantity over quality in Melkersen, Doidge, Tavares and McKirdy.
I also suspect Jeggo came in to do a specific job and I don't see him as an automatic starter next season.

Lago

04-06-2023, 01:43 PM

Christian Doidge on his way back from Killie

bingo70

04-06-2023, 02:24 PM

Another name - played for LJ previously:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/morgan-feeney-under-hibs-transfer-30150842

Seems to be very popular with the Carlisle fans on Twitter.

brydekirk

04-06-2023, 02:25 PM

Hibs have accepted a bid for Nisbet from the tic.
( lions den )

flash

04-06-2023, 02:40 PM

:agree:

A guy I work with is from down that way and he is delighted with this season. Thinks JDT has worked wonders with the hand he’s been dealt.

Hibs have accepted a bid for Nisbet from the tic.
( lions den )

Bit confused by this post ain't gonna lie.

brydekirk

04-06-2023, 02:46 PM

Bit confused by this post ain't gonna lie.

Lion's den is a Celtic YouTube channel.

Betty Boop

04-06-2023, 02:50 PM

Hibs have accepted a bid for Nisbet from the tic.
( lions den )
Boooooooooo

JohnM1875

04-06-2023, 02:52 PM

Hibs have accepted a bid for Nisbet from the tic.
( lions den )

They're not even sure who their manager will be next season so I'd be surprised if that's true.

bingo70

04-06-2023, 02:53 PM

Lion's den is a Celtic YouTube channel.

Ah, I assumed it was a Millwall forum.

Tbh, if true, the red tops will be reporting it before they know.

Hibiza

04-06-2023, 06:05 PM

That's bottom 6 material that, brutal

Yup , that's a poor team 😒

Smartie

04-06-2023, 10:00 PM

That's bottom 6 material that, brutal

It looks very different with a peak Scott Allan in it for Josh Campbell.

I quite like it tbh.

Not perfect, not quite right but it's not a kick in the arse off being good imo.

badabing67

05-06-2023, 01:05 PM

JamesHFC

05-06-2023, 02:22 PM

FWIW I don't think Nizzy has played his last game for us. I think he will be back for pre-season and start the season for us. Although we have accepted a bid he just needs to look to John McGinn to see the benefits of starting the season with us. The whole of that summer SJM was linked to Celtic and a good few performances in Europe against Runavik, Asteras, Molde and Villa came in and the rest is History. If Nizzy's got any smarts about him, which I am sure he has. I think he will try something similar to get a better club. I really hope this is the case

One injury and we are likely to miss out on a couple of million. I doubt he be back for the start of pre season in all honesty.

EGL2000

05-06-2023, 03:04 PM

FWIW I don't think Nizzy has played his last game for us. I think he will be back for pre-season and start the season for us. Although we have accepted a bid he just needs to look to John McGinn to see the benefits of starting the season with us. The whole of that summer SJM was linked to Celtic and a good few performances in Europe against Runavik, Asteras, Molde and Villa came in and the rest is History. If Nizzy's got any smarts about him, which I am sure he has. I think he will try something similar to get a better club. I really hope this is the case

Personally rather have him away early as possible. Hate trying to bed someone in late August and have very little time to settle and build sharpness. Even more so when it's a foreign player, who I think will replace Nisbet as I don't see any ready made replacements from Scottish football.

ChuckNor

05-06-2023, 03:32 PM

First time poster but long time reader. Curious what people would make of a move for Irish striker Aaron Connolly? Seems to be way down the pecking order at Brighton and would be looking to rebuild his career following a series of underwhelming loan moves. He was highly regarded at one point and has picked up I think nine caps for the Irish senior team. Could be worth a shot?

badabing67

05-06-2023, 03:34 PM

One injury and we are likely to miss out on a couple of million. I doubt he be back for the start of pre season in all honesty.

He is still in contact, the ball is in his court, we just have to wait and see. He could pick up an injury playing for Scotland. I still think there is a chance he will still play for us before he leaves.

Just_Jimmy

05-06-2023, 03:35 PM

FWIW I don't think Nizzy has played his last game for us. I think he will be back for pre-season and start the season for us. Although we have accepted a bid he just needs to look to John McGinn to see the benefits of starting the season with us. The whole of that summer SJM was linked to Celtic and a good few performances in Europe against Runavik, Asteras, Molde and Villa came in and the rest is History. If Nizzy's got any smarts about him, which I am sure he has. I think he will try something similar to get a better club. I really hope this is the caseFine when it's SJM.

KN can't wait to leave, it's been like that since day one. He'll be away in summer.

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CapitalGreen

05-06-2023, 04:02 PM

CapitalGreen

05-06-2023, 04:03 PM

Fine when it's SJM.

KN can't wait to leave, it's been like that since day one. He'll be away in summer.

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The difference is we have accepted an offer for Nisbet. McGinn would have been away at the drop of a hat in the summer 2018 if we had received an acceptable bid earlier in the summer.

GloryGlory

05-06-2023, 04:26 PM

Vault Boy

05-06-2023, 04:28 PM

Will Fish - second loan spell? And - surprise, surprise - Aberdeen also interested intaking him on loan.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-handed-potential-transfer-target-boost-as-english-club-makes-decision-on-in-demand-player-4170300

Can’t imagine there’s any chance he’d go to Dons if he has the opportunity to come back here, good news if he’s available again

Just_Jimmy

05-06-2023, 04:28 PM

The difference is we have accepted an offer for Nisbet. McGinn would have been away at the drop of a hat in the summer 2018 if we had received an acceptable bid earlier in the summer.Probably, but SJM never spat the dummy or made it clear that he couldn't wait to leave Hibs. It was always obvious he'd move to bigger stuff but he never did anything but show commitment to Hibs.

If a bigger club bid for him this summer and villa accept, I'm sure he'd speak to them and likely move, but he's never made it clear he wants go to from them Either.

KM wanted away the day he signed. He was petulant after Birmingham didn't happen and I've no doubt when he moves, he'll be seeking another move before he's played his first game for his new club. That's why many Hibs fans have never taken to him, as good as he is.

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EGL2000

05-06-2023, 04:29 PM

Can’t imagine there’s any chance he’d go to Dons if he has the opportunity to come back here, good news if he’s available again

You could argue he would want to test himself in Europe though. Guaranteed with the dons.

Bridge hibs

05-06-2023, 04:38 PM

You could argue he would want to test himself in Europe though. Guaranteed with the dons.

Are hibs not in europe too ?

EGL2000

05-06-2023, 04:39 PM

Are hibs not in europe too ?

Yes but Aberdeen are guaranteed at least 8 games, against much higher quality opposition.

Trinity Hibee

05-06-2023, 04:39 PM

Are hibs not in europe too ?

Not really the same though is it? Big difference between groups and about 3 qualifying rounds. Not really a comparison.

Anyway let’s hope he comes back.

Bridge hibs

05-06-2023, 04:42 PM

Not really the same though is it? Big difference between groups and about 3 qualifying rounds. Not really a comparison.

Anyway let’s hope he comes back.

Never say never, depends on the quality we sign too and a bit of luck with the draws. Fish could add to that quality. Aberdeen could get papped most games too, which I hope

Billy Whizz

05-06-2023, 04:43 PM

PHeffernan

05-06-2023, 05:35 PM

Will Fish - second loan spell? And - surprise, surprise - Aberdeen also interested intaking him on loan.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-handed-potential-transfer-target-boost-as-english-club-makes-decision-on-in-demand-player-4170300

Will will be going out on loan again ... but unlikely he will be coming back to Scotland.

Stokesy's on fire

05-06-2023, 05:43 PM

Will Fish - second loan spell? And - surprise, surprise - Aberdeen also interested intaking him on loan.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-handed-potential-transfer-target-boost-as-english-club-makes-decision-on-in-demand-player-4170300

Aberdeen wanted Boyle and failed to get him its up to Hibs to get the deal done early

JohnM1875

05-06-2023, 05:46 PM

Ethan Laidlaw confirming his time at Hibs is over.

Broken Gnome

05-06-2023, 05:58 PM

Will Fish - second loan spell? And - surprise, surprise - Aberdeen also interested intaking him on loan.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-handed-potential-transfer-target-boost-as-english-club-makes-decision-on-in-demand-player-4170300

I don't think there's any limit as to how the Evening News' clickbaity headlines infuriate me.

Victor

05-06-2023, 06:06 PM

Will Fish - second loan spell? And - surprise, surprise - Aberdeen also interested intaking him on loan.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-handed-potential-transfer-target-boost-as-english-club-makes-decision-on-in-demand-player-4170300

I am a bit surprised if he doesn’t believe he could get first team football with Man U. After all they give Harry Maguire games. [emoji11]

MWHIBBIES

05-06-2023, 06:50 PM

Aberdeen wanted Boyle and failed to get him its up to Hibs to get the deal done early

There is no reason for United or Fish to get the deal done early. Will wait and do whats best for them.

Donegal Hibby

05-06-2023, 07:26 PM

Anyone see Morgan Feeney play? This article seems to rate him .
https://www.footballfancast.com/hibernian-transfer-news-gossip-rumours-lee-johnson-morgan-feeney/

CentreForward

05-06-2023, 07:54 PM

Ethan Laidlaw confirming his time at Hibs is over.

I actually find that really sad as I reckon he should have been given the chance from the bench. Really think he could have made it with us. Time will tell how he progresses down south, but won’t be easy for him.

Hibi

05-06-2023, 07:59 PM

I actually find that really sad as I reckon he should have been given the chance from the bench. Really think he could have made it with us. Time will tell how he progresses down south, but won’t be easy for him.

I have no inside knowledge. But from afar he’s the only player we’ve had of late who seemed to have several trials with various EPL clubs (Liverpool, Aston Villa come to mind) from a young age, therefore feels like he was always wanting to move on regardless of what we did.

Col2

05-06-2023, 09:10 PM

Ethan Laidlaw confirming his time at Hibs is over.

No surprise and will have something lined up. We have offered an extension so will be due development fee I assume.

h18eeynick

05-06-2023, 09:29 PM

easty

05-06-2023, 10:01 PM

I would imagine quite a few Celtic players will end up at Spurs this summer. A new manager and probably a shed load of cash if they sell but replacing trusted and known players could be a bit challenging. Rangers also doing a bit of a rebuild. Interesting season ahead including our own rebuild.

Spurs won’t finish any higher up the league by signing a few of these Celtc players.

McGregor would get in the Spurs team. Not sure any the rest of them would improve Spurs

ErinGoBraghHFC

05-06-2023, 10:11 PM

Spurs won’t finish any higher up the league by signing a few of these Celtc players.

McGregor would get in the Spurs team. Not sure any the rest of them would improve Spurs

Jota, Hatate, Kyogo would all improve Spurs (if Kane moves on)

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easty

05-06-2023, 10:14 PM

Jota, Hatate,

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Jota doesn’t get in the Spurs team ahead of Son or Kulusevski. They’re far better players.

Hatate - we’ll see I suppose, I’m not convinced he’s good enough. Better than Hojberg or Bissouma or Bentancur? Nah.

easty

05-06-2023, 10:16 PM

Jota, Hatate, Kyogo would all improve Spurs (if Kane moves on)

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Kyogo for Kane is a mega downgrade.

Kyogo has done brilliant. At SPL. Can he even get in the Japan squad??

JohnM1875

05-06-2023, 10:21 PM

Jota, Hatate, Kyogo would all improve Spurs (if Kane moves on)

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Honestly don't get the Jota stuff at all. Think he's decent and no more.

Hatate is class and think Kyogo could make the step up to EPL.

Winston Ingram

06-06-2023, 05:28 AM

I would imagine quite a few Celtic players will end up at Spurs this summer. A new manager and probably a shed load of cash if they sell but replacing trusted and known players could be a bit challenging. Rangers also doing a bit of a rebuild. Interesting season ahead including our own rebuild.

I don’t. I genuinely surprised if any went with him.

It’s a far higher level down there. Odsonne Edouard ripped this league up for 3 years and he’s no more than a squad player for Palace.

Since90+2

06-06-2023, 05:54 AM

I don’t. I genuinely surprised if any went with him.

It’s a far higher level down there. Odsonne Edouard ripped this league up for 3 years and he’s no more than a squad player for Palace.

Good point on Edouard. He looked a player far more equipped to make an impact in the EPL than Kyogo and as you say he's not even a guaranteed starter for Palace.

I don't see any of those Celtic players improving the Spurs team.

McGregor is a good player but he's found his niche at Celtic, everything goes through him and he has massive influence on the dressing room and by extension the way the team plays. He'd have none of that at Spurs and I don't think he's good enough to go in and improve them purely on ability.

Hatate can't even get in the Japan squad, let alone the team.

Winston Ingram

06-06-2023, 06:14 AM

Good point on Edouard. He looked a player far more equipped to make an impact in the EPL than Kyogo and as you say he's not even a guaranteed starter for Palace.

I don't see any of those Celtic players improving the Spurs team.

McGregor is a good player but he's found his niche at Celtic, everything goes through him and he has massive influence on the dressing room and by extension the way the team plays. He'd have none of that at Spurs and I don't think he's good enough to go in and improve them purely on ability.

Hatate can't even get in the Japan squad, let alone the team.

I think McGregor is good enough but Levy's not someone who pays big money for aging players. McGregor is 30 in a few days.

Paulie Walnuts

06-06-2023, 06:15 AM

I would imagine quite a few Celtic players will end up at Spurs this summer. A new manager and probably a shed load of cash if they sell but replacing trusted and known players could be a bit challenging. Rangers also doing a bit of a rebuild. Interesting season ahead including our own rebuild.

Can’t see anyone at Celtic being good enough for Spurs.

Greenio

06-06-2023, 06:18 AM

It's one thing to run defensive ragged and score goals for fun when youre playing for Celtic in the SPL. Big difference doing it in the prem.

Ange would be wise to avoid that trap. Need to up his whole operation significantly if he's to survive down there... recruitment esp, can't rely on Jleague players to boss that league like they did here

Unseen work

06-06-2023, 06:27 AM

Can see Hatate going to spurs, quality player.

Dmas

06-06-2023, 07:22 AM

Can see Hatate going to spurs, quality player.

I was thinking he would be away as well, I did think macgregor as well but didn’t realise he was 30, I read something on twitter last night that hatate and kyogo had release clauses no idea how much substance is in it don’t think it was from anyone reputable but said 3m for hatate which is a steal and 6m for kyogo

Winston Ingram

06-06-2023, 07:47 AM

Can see Hatate going to spurs, quality player.

Can't see it myself. He's a great talent but too inconsistent and is poor defensively.

Spurs already have one of those in Tanguy Ndombele

Hiber-nation

06-06-2023, 07:54 AM

Can see Hatate going to spurs, quality player.

Good player but not at that level surely. Lower Prem or Championship. Depends what Spurs aspirations are mind you :greengrin

Leitherhibs

06-06-2023, 08:09 AM

No surprise and will have something lined up. We have offered an extension so will be due development fee I assume.

World’s worst kept secret that he signed for Watford weeks ago, not sure what the hold up is, perhaps Hibs and Watford are struggling to agree compo?

bingo70

06-06-2023, 08:18 AM

Good player but not at that level surely. Lower Prem or Championship. Depends what Spurs aspirations are mind you :greengrin

Good players in Scotland are good players in England. While the overall quality is obviously on a different stratosphere, individuals who do well here will do well down south, that’s been proven time and time again.

Kyogo and Hatate are both really excellent players imo, both would be good squad players down south. That’s not being disrespectful to them by saying they’re just squad players either, it’s just the reality that it’s a squad game now and all teams need strong depth of squad.

The work rate of those two and Maeada would stand them in good stead down south but I can’t see him taking the three of them. He’ll sign Kyogo though I think.

Fwiw Callum McGregor would easily be good enough for them too, he’s a top player. SJM and McTominay both played a decent number of minutes for teams that finished above Spurs last season, CM has proven on the field net rational stage he’s at least on a par with them.

Since90+2

06-06-2023, 09:01 AM

Good players in Scotland are good players in England. While the overall quality is obviously on a different stratosphere, individuals who do well here will do well down south, that’s been proven time and time again.

Kyogo and Hatate are both really excellent players imo, both would be good squad players down south. That’s not being disrespectful to them by saying they’re just squad players either, it’s just the reality that it’s a squad game now and all teams need strong depth of squad.

The work rate of those two and Maeada would stand them in good stead down south but I can’t see him taking the three of them. He’ll sign Kyogo though I think.

Fwiw Callum McGregor would easily be good enough for them too, he’s a top player. SJM and McTominay both played a decent number of minutes for teams that finished above Spurs last season, CM has proven on the field net rational stage he’s at least on a par with them.

On your last point, McGinn and McTominay are squad players, what Spurs need is guys who will come in and improve them and take them to the next level.

McGregor is not at that level IMO, he'd probably go down there and do just fine, but that's not what they need.

Hibbyradge

06-06-2023, 09:17 AM

On your last point, McGinn and McTominay are squad players, what Spurs need is guys who will come in and improve them and take them to the next level.

McGregor is not at that level IMO, he'd probably go down there and do just fine, but that's not what they need.

McGinn's a squad player?

He's captain of Aston Villa and first name on the teamsheet.

Leitherhibs

06-06-2023, 09:25 AM

McGinn's a squad player?

He's captain of Aston Villa and first name on the teamsheet.

And I’d argue he’s one of, if not their most important player since Emery came in.

bingo70

06-06-2023, 09:27 AM

On your last point, McGinn and McTominay are squad players, what Spurs need is guys who will come in and improve them and take them to the next level.

McGregor is not at that level IMO, he'd probably go down there and do just fine, but that's not what they need.

That’s not my perception of the problem at Spurs. I always got the impression they bought good individuals but don’t really have an identity as a team and don’t really know how they wasn’t to play. Last two managers appeared to have been really defensive and not sure that suited them.

I think energy and enthusiasm in a football team is infectious and that’s what they would bring. They’re clearly very good footballers too and wouldn’t be out their depth at a club like Spurs IMO.

007

06-06-2023, 09:28 AM

It would be hilarious if Postecoglu went to Spurs and took a few of Celtic's best players with him. It would p**s of Spurs and Celtic fans in equal measure.

Since90+2

06-06-2023, 09:35 AM

McGinn's a squad player?

He's captain of Aston Villa and first name on the teamsheet.

Definitely not first name on the team sheet, a lot of Villa fans didn't even want him in the team at all earlier on in the season.

HFC93

06-06-2023, 09:46 AM

Definitely not first name on the team sheet, a lot of Villa fans didn't even want him in the team at all earlier on in the season.

Not sure that's true. He starts pretty much every game under Emery and is club captain.

B.H.F.C

06-06-2023, 09:47 AM

Definitely not first name on the team sheet, a lot of Villa fans didn't even want him in the team at all earlier on in the season.

Earlier in the season being the key bit in that sentence. His form since they changed manager has been exceptional and they’re trying to sort out a new contract with him just now.

Hibbyradge

06-06-2023, 09:48 AM

Definitely not first name on the team sheet, a lot of Villa fans didn't even want him in the team at all earlier on in the season.

The fans don't pick the team.

SJM is adored by Villa fans. He wasn't used properly by Gerrard and his form dipped, but he's as valuable to them as anyone else now.

He missed half a dozen games or so because of injury but has been an ever present since. He played 34 league games this season, only 2 less than their world cup winning goalkeeper.

Squad player he is not.

Paulie Walnuts

06-06-2023, 09:51 AM

Good players in Scotland are good players in England. While the overall quality is obviously on a different stratosphere, individuals who do well here will do well down south, that’s been proven time and time again.

Kyogo and Hatate are both really excellent players imo, both would be good squad players down south. That’s not being disrespectful to them by saying they’re just squad players either, it’s just the reality that it’s a squad game now and all teams need strong depth of squad.

The work rate of those two and Maeada would stand them in good stead down south but I can’t see him taking the three of them. He’ll sign Kyogo though I think.

Fwiw Callum McGregor would easily be good enough for them too, he’s a top player. SJM and McTominay both played a decent number of minutes for teams that finished above Spurs last season, CM has proven on the field net rational stage he’s at least on a par with them.

McGinn is a bit better than McGregor imo and that’s not just cause he played for Hibs.

Add in the fact Spurs will have loftier ambitions than Villa and I can’t see McGregor being good enough for Spurs.

MWHIBBIES

06-06-2023, 09:52 AM

The fans don't pick the team.

SJM is adored by Villa fans. He wasn't used properly by Gerrard and his form dipped, but he's as valuable to them as anyone else now.

He missed half a dozen games or so because of injury but has been an ever present since. He played 34 league games this season, only 2 less than their world cup winning goalkeeper.

Squad player he is not.

I think McGinn in general wasn't playing well, though. Its wrong to only blame Gerrard. He was being played central midfield and playing badly.

Paulie Walnuts

06-06-2023, 09:52 AM

CockneyRebel

06-06-2023, 09:58 AM

]Good players in Scotland are good players in England.[/B] While the overall quality is obviously on a different stratosphere, individuals who do well here will do well down south, that’s been proven time and time again.

Kyogo and Hatate are both really excellent players imo, both would be good squad players down south. That’s not being disrespectful to them by saying they’re just squad players either, it’s just the reality that it’s a squad game now and all teams need strong depth of squad.

The work rate of those two and Maeada would stand them in good stead down south but I can’t see him taking the three of them. He’ll sign Kyogo though I think.

Fwiw Callum McGregor would easily be good enough for them too, he’s a top player. SJM and McTominay both played a decent number of minutes for teams that finished above Spurs last season, CM has proven on the field net rational stage he’s at least on a par with them.

Ask the Palace supporters how they rate Edouard. He scored for fun with Celtic, went to Palace and .......

JimBHibees

06-06-2023, 09:59 AM

Honestly don't get the Jota stuff at all. Think he's decent and no more.

Hatate is class and think Kyogo could make the step up to EPL.

Agree with that summation. Think both could definitely play at that level however are they going to be standouts or definite starters every week only time would tell.

Hibbyradge

06-06-2023, 09:59 AM

I think McGinn in general wasn't playing well, though. Its wrong to only blame Gerrard. He was being played central midfield and playing badly.

He played excellently for Scotland during that same period.

I'm perfectly comfortable blaming Gerrard even if it wasn't wholly his fault, which it was.

bingo70

06-06-2023, 10:01 AM

Ask the Palace supporters how they rate Edouard. He scored for fun with Celtic, went to Palace and .......

I never really got it with Edouard. I know he scored goals but I thought he looked like he couldn’t be arsed. I’m not surprised at all he’s struggled with the step up. He’s got the ability but not the attitude, not what you can say about the other guys from Celtic.

Also unfair to hand pick one signing that didn’t work out, there’s been a lot more unsuccessful signings from other countries than Scotland. Scotland must be the best value for money league for English clubs to target.