Summer transfer thread 2023

[JammyDoidger]

Aden Flint..

[Donegal Hibby]

Remember him being linked before and him being a bit of a laughing stock at his previous club as he was meant to be *****.

Not one I’d be excited about but then, is his CV any worse than Van Veens before he joined them? 😜
I agree Bonne isn't one to get exciting about and the article I put up said we might move for him if we sold Nisbet , we need a lot better than that to replace Nisbet . Apart from scoring 45 goals in 90 games for Leyton Orient in the national League , 11 in 33 in the championship for Charlton and 12 in 43 for Ipswich he's generally not got a good goalscoring record tbh . Think his previous club have also been a bit of a laughing stock in fairness too in what is now there 6 manager in 5 years .I see Bonne has been mentioned on the hertz forum as a possible signing as cover for Shankland too .

When Van Veen was released he went playing amateur football were he is goalscoring record was very good which why he moved to England and I think had something like a 1/5 rate in the lower leagues which tbf isn't great though he has something like 39 goals in 80 odd appearances for Motherwell, which isn't to shabby imo btw 😉

[bingo70]

Aden Flint..

What about him?

[Callum_62]

What about him?

he's very tall

[Stuart93]

Dundee sign Charlie Reilly.

Could turn out to be good business from them

[Paloschi]

Heard we are after a young Austrian forward, Marlon Mustapha. Apparently a loan deal. Can play on the wing. A few clubs interested.

[JimBHibees]

Dundee sign Charlie Reilly.

Could turn out to be good business from them

Who he?

[Tyler Durden]

Heard we are after a young Austrian forward, Marlon Mustapha. Apparently a loan deal. Can play on the wing. A few clubs interested.

Now we're talking. This is so random that it has to be true

[ElginHibbie]

Heard we are after a young Austrian forward, Marlon Mustapha. Apparently a loan deal. Can play on the wing. A few clubs interested.

As his club are not part of the City Group I refuse to believe this!

[badabing67]

Heard we are after a young Austrian forward, Marlon Mustapha. Apparently a loan deal. Can play on the wing. A few clubs interested.

That will be Aberdeen and Hearts then

[SteveHFC]

As his club are not part of the City Group I refuse to believe this!

This.

I want us to only sign players part of the City Group.

[Stuart93]

Who he?

21 year old Scottish lad.

22 goals and 13 assists in 34 games for a struggling Albion Rovers side last season.

Probably too risky a signing for us admittedly but would’ve been one to keep an eye on

[oneone73]

Mustapha Chance.

[Donegal Hibby]

Mustapha Chance.
MAR LON( S) :rolleyes:

[J-C]

:agree:
I guess that's what happens when you **** the *****...

[Keyser Sauzee]

Just seen Alexis MacAllister to Liverpool, could turn out to be an excellent signing. How much did he go for?

[Lancs Harp]

Just seen Alexis MacAllister to Liverpool, could turn out to be an excellent signing. How much did he go for?

Basic 35 million with add ons. He had an exit clause in his contract.

Liverpool needed Bellingham but out of their financial league.

[Unseen work]

Heard we are after a young Austrian forward, Marlon Mustapha. Apparently a loan deal. Can play on the wing. A few clubs interested.

Obviously don’t expect you to disclose your source, but is it a decent/credible one?

Had a quick search and he looks a player!

[badabing67]

Wycombe, Portsmouth and Scottish Premiership duo Aberdeen and St Mirren are keen on Northampton Town defender Ali Koiki. Koiki has turned down a new deal at Northampton and could be available on a free transfer

Rangers are interested in signing Hearts hitman Lawrence Shankland who could become arrival number four at Ibrox this summer, TEAMtalk understands.

Graeme Shinnie's proposed permanent move to Aberdeen (https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/all-about/aberdeen-fc) could be affected by Wigan's transfer embargo.

[JamesHFC]

Wycombe, Portsmouth and Scottish Premiership duo Aberdeen and St Mirren are keen on Northampton Town defender Ali Koiki. Koiki has turned down a new deal at Northampton and could be available on a free transfer

Rangers are interested in signing Hearts hitman Lawrence Shankland who could become arrival number four at Ibrox this summer, TEAMtalk understands.

Mentioned last summer that I wouldn't be surprised if we were interested in him, Johnson supposedly wanted him at Sunderland. No mention of us there but I wouldn't be surprised if we had some interest also. Haven't seen much of him but he's supposedly a very attacking full back.

[JammyDoidger]

What about him?

Previously worked with Johnson at Bristol city, sure he was captain actually, we were linked with him last summer, just been released by stoke, wasn't a starter whilst on loan at sheff wed, plenty experience, massive threat from set pieces.

[JamesHFC]

Previously worked with Johnson at Bristol city, sure he was captain actually, we were linked with him last summer, just been released by stoke, wasn't a starter whilst on loan at sheff wed, plenty experience, massive threat from set pieces.

Flint would be a great signing, would probably want more wages than we are willing to offer though.

[Winston Ingram]

Seeing this mentioned a lot but I don’t think it’s as straightforward as that.

We’ve just shelled out half a million for a player. I’ll be surprised if Aberdeen pay a bigger fee than that this summer.

We are prepared to pay these days. Trick is to not waste what we do spend. Instead of paying 4 players who aren’t going to contribute, sign 1 or 2 on better money who will.

I’m the case of Clarkson I don’t think we’d get him if we were in for him (which I don’t think we will be) but I think we can compete for individual players if we chose to do so. Doesn’t mean we’ll always get them but I think we’ve shown a willingness to spend if we think it’s worth it.

They’ve just got £3m for McCrorie and have a guaranteed £5m en route from UEFA. I’d be surprised if they didn’t.

[Donegal Hibby]

Looks like LJ will be using his connections with the city group again the way he's talking even though it's been beneficial to us it's something I find slightly concerning tbh .
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/how-hibs-boss-plans-to-use-city-football-group-links-as-he-reveals-change-to-loan-signings-4175097

[EGL2000]

Looks like LJ will be using his connections with the city group again the way he's talking even though it's been beneficial to us it's something I find slightly concerning tbh .
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/how-hibs-boss-plans-to-use-city-football-group-links-as-he-reveals-change-to-loan-signings-4175097


I rate it anything to gain an advantage on other teams who won't have those connections.

[EGL2000]

I like the look of this Marlon Mustapha guy 6 goals and 6 assists in the Austrian Bundesliga last season(for the team who went down). Bundesliga is a good standard probably actually higher than ours if you remove the 2 uglys.

[Donegal Hibby]

I rate it anything to gain an advantage on other teams who won't have those connections.
Totally agree don't mind loaning in player's which benefits Hibs and the city group though that's were it stops for me . Any move by them to takeover HIBERNIAN Football Club I'd be strongly against tbh .

[JamesHFC]

Totally agree don't mind loaning in player's which benefits Hibs and the city group though that's were it stops for me . Any move by them to takeover HIBERNIAN Football Club I'd be strongly against tbh .

But okay with the Saudi's taking over Newcastle? 😅

[tonyrougier123]

Kevin holt partick left back 30. Not linked but surely worth a punt. Looked very good for partick recently. Money troubles could see him moving on for nowt.Kyle turner busy wee midfielder also worth a look I’d suggest.

[JamesHFC]

Kevin holt partick left back 30. Not linked but surely worth a punt. Looked very good for partick recently. Money troubles could see him moving on for nowt.Kyle turner busy wee midfielder also worth a look I’d suggest.

Perhaps being a bit naive but I don't think there is any player I would want from Partick. We have the scouting network and budget to attract better imo.

[Donegal Hibby]

But okay with the Saudi's taking over Newcastle? 😅
No i wasn't okay with it either though the difference is Newcastle are probably the number one priority with its Saudi owners and the city group own around 13 clubs and if they purchased Hibs I'd wonder were we would be in the scale of there priorities tbh . We'd just be like a man city b team to them like all the other clubs they bought imo . Which as Hibs fans with our history and identity we should never accept .

[JamesHFC]

No i wasn't okay with it either though the difference is Newcastle are probably the number one priority with its Saudi owners and the city group own around 13 clubs and if they purchased Hibs I'd wonder were we would be in the scale of there priorities tbh . We'd just be like a man city b team to them like all the other clubs they bought imo . Which as Hibs fans with our history and identity we should never accept .

Didn't the owners (PIF) just take over 4 clubs in Saudi Arabia and already prioritising them with world class signings?

[Donegal Hibby]

Didn't the owners (PIF) just take over 4 clubs in Saudi Arabia and already prioritising them with world class signings?
Aye , they have and they will sign world class players like Ronaldo and Benzema though both are coming near the end of there careers and to what means I'd guess to boast the profile of there league though the English premier doesn't need that as it's one of the best leagues in the world with a world wide audience and now with Newcastle United in the champions League I still think they will be the owner's top priority unlike we would be under the city groups if they took us over .

[JimBHibees]

Perhaps being a bit naive but I don't think there is any player I would want from Partick. We have the scouting network and budget to attract better imo.

I agree only one would be monitoring was guy Turner in midfield but certainly wouldn't be rushing to sign any. Most half decent champ or lower spl level who were playing well, really like Lawless as a player for example.

[Since452]

Kevin holt partick left back 30. Not linked but surely worth a punt. Looked very good for partick recently. Money troubles could see him moving on for nowt.Kyle turner busy wee midfielder also worth a look I’d suggest.

Fitzpatrick worth a punt too. Very impressed with him during the playoff games. Decent age at 22.

[JimBHibees]

Fitzpatrick worth a punt too. Very impressed with him during the playoff games.

Fair point he was good

[hibsforeurope]

Looks like LJ will be using his connections with the city group again the way he's talking even though it's been beneficial to us it's something I find slightly concerning tbh .
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/how-hibs-boss-plans-to-use-city-football-group-links-as-he-reveals-change-to-loan-signings-4175097

with 7 loans allowed that could be tricky to balance and likely to create a lot of upheaval each year with little stability. a few quality loans to supplement the core squad would be ideal.

[JohnM1875]

Seven loads a season is a ridiculous amount! Obviously that's the maximum and you don't need to sign any. But wonder why they've increased it to seven.

[Paloschi]

Obviously don’t expect you to disclose your source, but is it a decent/credible one?

Had a quick search and he looks a player!


I have family connections who know people within the club. It's just a player we are looking at and have an interest in so not sure if it will materialise.

Asked for more info and told 'It would be similar to the Youan deal, season long loan with option to buy. Similar profile to Youan but his parent club Mainz rate him quite highly so if he did well we would be looking at a large fee. They would rather test him in a different environment to Austria and expose him to European football.' This suggests we may have an advantage over English Championship teams.

I assume Aberdeen and Hearts will be looking at him too.

[CapitalGreen]

I have family connections who know people within the club. It's just a player we are looking at and have an interest in so not sure if it will materialise.

Asked for more info and told 'It would be similar to the Youan deal, season long loan with option to buy. Similar profile to Youan but his parent club Mainz rate him quite highly so if he did well we would be looking at a large fee. They would rather test him in a different environment to Austria and expose him to European football.' This suggests we may have an advantage over English Championship teams.

I assume Aberdeen and Hearts will be looking at him too.

His contract appears to be expiring next summer.

[Hibs90]

No i wasn't okay with it either though the difference is Newcastle are probably the number one priority with its Saudi owners and the city group own around 13 clubs and if they purchased Hibs I'd wonder were we would be in the scale of there priorities tbh . We'd just be like a man city b team to them like all the other clubs they bought imo . Which as Hibs fans with our history and identity we should never accept .

Well PIF have 'investments' in many things and I doubt Newcastle are their number one priority.


https://www.pif.gov.sa/en/Pages/OurInvestments-Map.aspx

[thebausburst]

I’m fine with several (hopefully quality) loan players far better than being stuck for years with duffers like Tavares and McKirdy.

[Since452]

In fairness to Hibs, the quality of loan players has been pretty good recently.

[Greenworld]

They’ve just got £3m for McCrorie and have a guaranteed £5m en route from UEFA. I’d be surprised if they didn’t.Remember Aberdeen posted a 5.2 million loss in 2022 they have that to deal with as well

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[Unseen work]

Alex Lacovitti had officially left Ross County.

Not one I’m keen on but know a lot on here seem to rate him and would take him.

[Bridge hibs]

Alex Lacovitti had officially left Ross County.

Not one I’m keen on but know a lot on here seem to rate him and would take him.
I know its only discussion on a message board but its ****ing scary reading some of those names, we need players that would hopefully take us to the next level or at least more competitive but Lacovitti, Dhanda, Tiffoney, Omeonga and that Ayr striker would at least have us competitive, at the other end of the table 😵

[Jones28]

Alex Lacovitti had officially left Ross County.

Not one I’m keen on but know a lot on here seem to rate him and would take him.

Count me out of that one.

[04Sauzee]

Alex Lacovitti had officially left Ross County.

Not one I’m keen on but know a lot on here seem to rate him and would take him.

I'd be surprised if he's Hibs bound, Dundee at best or down south

[bingo70]

I know its only discussion on a message board but its ****ing scary reading some of those names, we need players that would hopefully take us to the next level or at least more competitive but Lacovitti, Dhanda, Tiffoney, Omeonga and that Ayr striker would at least have us competitive, at the other end of the table 😵

Think you’ve got to remember people can only suggest players that they’ve seen. Nothing wrong with people making suggestions of players they’ve liked and seen, obviously the expectation is the club would dig a bit deeper but for fans on a message board, I don’t see what’s wrong with it.

[Bridge hibs]

Think you’ve got to remember people can only suggest players that they’ve seen. Nothing wrong with people making suggestions of players they’ve liked and seen, obviously the expectation is the club would dig a bit deeper but for fans on a message board, I don’t see what’s wrong with it.

Correct, that big lad Graham at Partick looks a right handful😀

[Hibernian Verse]

Pedant Alert

It's Iacovitti.

[Since452]

I know its only discussion on a message board but its ****ing scary reading some of those names, we need players that would hopefully take us to the next level or at least more competitive but Lacovitti, Dhanda, Tiffoney, Omeonga and that Ayr striker would at least have us competitive, at the other end of the table 😵

:agree: The Omeonga one seems to crop up a lot and i can't for the life of me understand why.

[MikeyS]

:agree: The Omeonga one seems to crop up a lot and i can't for the life of me understand why.

He played Glory Glory on the piano one time, think that's possibly why. He's not an improvement on Campbell, JDH or Jeggo and I'd be happy for any/all of them to move on this summer

[Percy Vere]

Looks like LJ will be using his connections with the city group again the way he's talking even though it's been beneficial to us it's something I find slightly concerning tbh .
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/how-hibs-boss-plans-to-use-city-football-group-links-as-he-reveals-change-to-loan-signings-4175097

Why? Surely it’s all about contacts. If those contacts gain Hibs better signings then I’m all for it. Did we not just sign a Director of Football probably based on his player acumen and contacts book?
I’m sick of Hibs being hamstrung on player recruitment, it’s about time we are able to bring in quality albeit on loans.

[Smartie]

:agree: The Omeonga one seems to crop up a lot and i can't for the life of me understand why.

He came in once before and improved our midfield significantly. Since then he’s picked up more experience playing well at our level.

It’s not the craziest shout. I quite liked him and have seen a few team performances since he left where we were lacking a bit of what he offered.

[basehibby]

Seven loads a season is a ridiculous amount! Obviously that's the maximum and you don't need to sign any. But wonder why they've increased it to seven.

Ultimately it will be for the benefit of super rich clubs with more players than they could possibly use.

[ShadesLongThrow]

Heard a whisper we’re interested in Harry Milne at Partick Thistle. Highly rated 6 foot left back. Been injured since March so didn’t participate in the play offs.

[JohnM1875]

He came in once before and improved our midfield significantly. Since then he’s picked up more experience playing well at our level.

It’s not the craziest shout. I quite liked him and have seen a few team performances since he left where we were lacking a bit of what he offered.

Take him over Jeggo every day of the week. And I don't mind Jeggo!

[007]

He played Glory Glory on the piano one time, think that's possibly why. He's not an improvement on Campbell, JDH or Jeggo and I'd be happy for any/all of them to move on this summer

And that Scott Allanesque pass to McNulty.

[HFC93]

Take him over Jeggo every day of the week. And I don't mind Jeggo!

He was anonymous up against a midfield featuring Jeggo last time we played Livi.

[cabbageandribs1875]

not noticed if already said but Kevin Dabrowski joins Raith Rovers on two year contract


wish him well

[JohnM1875]

He was anonymous up against a midfield featuring Jeggo last time we played Livi.

Aye fair point actually. We should be aiming for better than Omeonga for sure. And I've said plenty in the past I'd want him back.

[Hibbyradge]

Take him over Jeggo every day of the week. And I don't mind Jeggo!

He's a totally different type of player to Jeggo, no?

[EGL2000]

not noticed if already said but Kevin Dabrowski joins Raith Rovers on two year contract


wish him well

Decent enough move for him.

[Brightside]

He's a totally different type of player to Jeggo, no?

Yes. And wouldn’t get in our team ahead of JDH or Newell. We’ve got to be looking at better players.

[badabing67]

I know its only discussion on a message board but its ****ing scary reading some of those names, we need players that would hopefully take us to the next level or at least more competitive but Lacovitti, Dhanda, Tiffoney, Omeonga and that Ayr striker would at least have us competitive, at the other end of the table 😵

I would like us to get Omeonga, I think he has a bit more to offer than some we have in the squad

[Brightside]

I would like us to get Omeonga, I think he has a bit more to offer than some we have in the squad

He wasn’t even a stand out at Livi. We need much better.

He’s also signing for Bnei Sakhnin on a free. So we can put that away now.

[Bridge hibs]

I would like us to get Omeonga, I think he has a bit more to offer than some we have in the squad

What does he offer that our current midfielders dont ? When Ive seen him for Livingston v us or on telly he has been nothing special, sticks a leg in, chases about a bit and makes the odd pass. JDH, Campbell, Newel and Jeggo all do the same and a bit more

[Hibernian Verse]

What does he offer that our current midfielders dont ? When Ive seen him for Livingston v us or on telly he has been nothing special, sticks a leg in, chases about a bit and makes the odd pass. JDH, Campbell, Newel and Jeggo all do the same and a bit more

Newell is twice the player Omeonga is :agree:

[Cat Stanton]

Heard a whisper we’re interested in Harry Milne at Partick Thistle. Highly rated 6 foot left back. Been injured since March so didn’t participate in the play offs.

Sounds likely if he is injured.

[brog]

last data I seen (which is now behind a paywall) was for the 21/22 season and had Aberdeen with nearly double our wage budget, with the difference being around a few million or so IIRC.

There's absolutely no chance that running catering staff for a few hours 19 times a year costs more than £1 million or so.

It's well documented that they have wealthy donors donating several million each year which makes up this difference.

Even with Gordon increasing our budgets, they'll still pay significantly more than us.

I'm afraid that isn't really correct. Both our and Sheep accounts are freely available. Last reports show their turnover was 13.9m and ours was 11.9 m. Commercial activities accounted for 40% of Sheep turnover. Aberdeen's wage bill was 10.2 m = 73k per employee, ours was 8.5 m = 68k per employee. Now we have more playing staff and they have more commercial staff so it's fair to think the football difference may be a bit higher, say max 15% rather than the 7% indicated by the bare figures. Regardless, the difference is way below what most posters on here assume and it says to me that we are reasonably competitive with Aberdeen on players' wages.

[Since90+2]

I'm afraid that isn't really correct. Both our and Sheep accounts are freely available. Last reports show their turnover was 13.9m and ours was 11.9 m. Commercial activities accounted for 40% of Sheep turnover. Aberdeen's wage bill was 10.2 m = 73k per employee, ours was 8.5 m = 68k per employee. Now we have more playing staff and they have more commercial staff so it's fair to think the football difference may be a bit higher, say max 15% rather than the 7% indicated by the bare figures. Regardless, the difference is way below what most posters on here assume and it says to me that we are reasonably competitive with Aberdeen on players' wages.

15% higher is a significant amount.

Let's say we are in for a player who commands a salary of around £2500 a week. Aberdeen offer him £2600 a week basic, using your 15% average ratio we'd offer around £2210 a week, a difference of £390 a week. Now times that by 52 weeks and that's £20,000 a year, based on a 3 year contract thats £60,000 more on offer.

Although they are well paid, we are not talking about players who can easily turn their nose up at £60,000 for 3 years work (minus tax obviously). You'd then have bonuses which may be based off percentage of salary, again then making the difference in salary even higher.

When you start talking about guys earning 4/5k the difference becomes even bigger. You could be looking at a difference of £600 a week or £31,000 a year. Not far a kick in the arse off £100,000 for a 3 year deal.

Using your own figures it seems clear that they do have a competitive advantage when it comes to what they can pay.

[Stokesy's on fire]

15% higher is a significant amount.

Let's say we are in for a player who commands a salary of around £2500 a week. Aberdeen offer him £2600 a week basic, using your 15% average ratio we'd offer around £2210 a week, a difference of £390 a week. Now times that by 52 weeks and that's £20,000 a year, based on a 3 year contract thats £60,000 more on offer.

Although they are well paid, we are not talking about players who can easily turn their nose up at £60,000 for 3 years work (minus tax obviously). You'd then have bonuses which may be based off percentage of salary, again then making the difference in salary even higher.

When you start talking about guys earning 4/5k the difference becomes even bigger. You could be looking at a difference of £600 a week or £31,000 a year. Not far a kick in the arse off £100,000 for a 3 year deal.

Using your own figures it seems clear that they do have a competitive advantage when it comes to what they can pay.


But joining Aberdeen is a negative and a dull and boring club with very little or nothing going for it. If you like dull..then join Aberdeen. Yes you can join for a few extra pounds.but if you like passion and even charachter then Hibs or Hearts it is.

[badabing67]

Aberdeen linked with Croatian attacking midfielder Tonio Teklic

The Dons are leading the race to sign the 23-year-old, according to reports in Croatia.
Aberdeen have been linked with a move for Croatian attacking midfielder Tonio Teklic.

The 23-year-old scored eight goals in 33 appearances for Varazdin in the Croatian top flight this season.
According to reports in Croatia, the Dons are leading the race to sign the attacking midfielder.

He played for Hadjuk Split from 2017 to 2022 which included two loan spells at Varazdin and a loan spell at Hrvatski Dragovoljac.

Teklic, who has a year left on his contract, has represented Croatia at under-23, under-20, under-19 and under-18 level. He is a left-footed attacking midfielder with a penchant for long-range goals.

[Springbank]

Aberdeen linked with Croatian attacking midfielder Tonio Teklic

The Dons are leading the race to sign the 23-year-old, according to reports in Croatia.
Aberdeen have been linked with a move for Croatian attacking midfielder Tonio Teklic.

The 23-year-old scored eight goals in 33 appearances for Varazdin in the Croatian top flight this season.
According to reports in Croatia, the Dons are leading the race to sign the attacking midfielder.

He played for Hadjuk Split from 2017 to 2022 which included two loan spells at Varazdin and a loan spell at Hrvatski Dragovoljac.

Teklic, who has a year left on his contract, has represented Croatia at under-23, under-20, under-19 and under-18 level. He is a left-footed attacking midfielder with a penchant for long-range goals.

A proper leftfield rumour. It sounds like there's a race for this guy and Aberdeen are leading it (at least twice) :greengrin

By the way, who doesn't love a player with a Penchant for long-range goals?

That usually means one every three seasons, and, on that basis, I think Lewie's agent could show his goals v Rangers (twice) and Saint Johnstone on a showreel and say that his client has a Penchant for long-range goals:thumbsup:

[Smartie]

Aberdeen linked with Croatian attacking midfielder Tonio Teklic

The Dons are leading the race to sign the 23-year-old, according to reports in Croatia.
Aberdeen have been linked with a move for Croatian attacking midfielder Tonio Teklic.

The 23-year-old scored eight goals in 33 appearances for Varazdin in the Croatian top flight this season.
According to reports in Croatia, the Dons are leading the race to sign the attacking midfielder.

He played for Hadjuk Split from 2017 to 2022 which included two loan spells at Varazdin and a loan spell at Hrvatski Dragovoljac.

Teklic, who has a year left on his contract, has represented Croatia at under-23, under-20, under-19 and under-18 level. He is a left-footed attacking midfielder with a penchant for long-range goals.

Surely Teckle Tony will join up with Jocky Scott at Dundee?

[MrSmith]

Newell is twice the player Omeonga is :agree:

Not for me!

[bingo70]

See the Wigan players haven’t been paid again. How does that work for the ones under contract? At what point can they be released from their contract?

I don’t get why they can’t walk away as soon as their first wage is missed but I know it doesn’t work like that.

Just thinking we could potentially be interested in Kerr and McGrath from them.

[Unseen work]

Newell is twice the player Omeonga is :agree:

And that’s being generous to Omeonga!

[Stuart93]

See the Wigan players haven’t been paid again. How does that work for the ones under contract? At what point can they be released from their contract?

I don’t get why they can’t walk away as soon as their first wage is missed but I know it doesn’t work like that.

Just thinking we could potentially be interested in Kerr and McGrath from them.

Definitely take both. Whilst McGrath didn’t set the heather alight at dundee utd I reckon anyone would’ve struggled to create for them

[Unseen work]

Definitely take both. Whilst McGrath didn’t set the heather alight at dundee utd I reckon anyone would’ve struggled to create for them

Other one I’d take is Callum Lang, impressed me a couple of season agao when he was at Motherwell.

[CapitalGreen]

Definitely take both. Whilst McGrath didn’t set the heather alight at dundee utd I reckon anyone would’ve struggled to create for them

He didn’t create much when at St Mirren either, he only made 3 open play assists in 79 games. He takes a decent set piece but that’s about it.

[brog]

15% higher is a significant amount.

Let's say we are in for a player who commands a salary of around £2500 a week. Aberdeen offer him £2600 a week basic, using your 15% average ratio we'd offer around £2210 a week, a difference of £390 a week. Now times that by 52 weeks and that's £20,000 a year, based on a 3 year contract thats £60,000 more on offer.

Although they are well paid, we are not talking about players who can easily turn their nose up at £60,000 for 3 years work (minus tax obviously). You'd then have bonuses which may be based off percentage of salary, again then making the difference in salary even higher.

When you start talking about guys earning 4/5k the difference becomes even bigger. You could be looking at a difference of £600 a week or £31,000 a year. Not far a kick in the arse off £100,000 for a 3 year deal.

Using your own figures it seems clear that they do have a competitive advantage when it comes to what they can pay.

Well for a start, the true number is definitely less than 10%. I extrapolated to 15% as perhaps the worst case scenario. The main point is that the post to which I was responding suggested that Aberdeen's budget was about 70% higher than ours. That's nonsense. We're competitive with Aberdeen on wages and there's always other factors to consider.

[tonyrougier123]

Omeonga and Lacovitti would be very decent business for hibs.

[California-Hibs]

Omeonga and Lacovitti would be very decent business for hibs.

If we were in the Championship?

[flash]

Omeonga and Lacovitti would be very decent business for hibs.

Not so much.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Omeonga and Lacovitti would be very decent business for hibs.

A massive no thanks to both them from me.

[Paulie Walnuts]

See the Wigan players haven’t been paid again. How does that work for the ones under contract? At what point can they be released from their contract?

I don’t get why they can’t walk away as soon as their first wage is missed but I know it doesn’t work like that.

Just thinking we could potentially be interested in Kerr and McGrath from them.

I don’t get that either. The minute they don’t get paid on time their contract has been broken surely? Unless there’s a built in ‘default’ period that needs to pass as well.

On the Wigan note, Maloney made a terrible decision going there with all that’s going on. After failing at Hibs he needed this job to be a success and he picked a job that had no prospect of that.

[Aldo]

Omeonga and Lacovitti would be very decent business for hibs.

Can I ask who they would replace in the team? To improve we need better quality than we already have and these 2 are a backward step (or 3).

SO was woefully in his 8 game second loan spell.

[Aldo]

I don’t get that either. The minute they don’t get paid on time their contract has been broken surely? Unless there’s a built in ‘default’ period that needs to pass as well.

On the Wigan note, Maloney made a terrible decision going there with all that’s going on. After failing at Hibs he needed this job to be a success and he picked a job that had no prospect of that.

I am too lazy to check back but I’m sure someone posted previously that certain players had been paid last time whilst others either had to wait or had their wages defaulted. Think those that had some sort of value to them with Jason Kerr being one!

If this goes wrong for them I’d try and get in early and see if Kerr would come to ER

[flash]

I don’t get that either. The minute they don’t get paid on time their contract has been broken surely? Unless there’s a built in ‘default’ period that needs to pass as well.

On the Wigan note, Maloney made a terrible decision going there with all that’s going on. After failing at Hibs he needed this job to be a success and he picked a job that had no prospect of that.

I read something about 3 defaults in a row triggering a release if the player so desired but can't remember where so I wouldn't swear on it.

[tonyrougier123]

Can I ask who they would replace in the team? To improve we need better quality than we already have and these 2 are a backward step (or 3).

SO was woefully in his 8 game second loan spell.

You can. Lacovitti played in one of the best defences outside the old firm.
He’d easily replace rocky for me.and now big fish is away and Hanlon getting on lacovitti fits the leader profile. Steal for someone imo. Missed him county recently and it nearly relegated them trying to patchwork their defence in his absence. I’d think he’d be an option alongside what we have. I’d also sign him over the Carlisle boy we in are in for solely based on a player who knows the league and opposition.

Omeonga,for me solid reliable excellent player to have in squad would be pushing most of what we have already in midfield for a start in the team.
Heckingbottom really missed him in the team and said as much in an interview before he got heaved. He’s a good man marker,quick feet and links well. Martindale very complimentary of his ability also. Seen him take the jambos to task for livy at Tynie in a 1-1 draw very unlucky to concede in 96th minute and he was a stand out.

These guys would be strong additions imo. And be relatively cheap to run with you would think.

[Caversham Green]

I'm afraid that isn't really correct. Both our and Sheep accounts are freely available. Last reports show their turnover was 13.9m and ours was 11.9 m. Commercial activities accounted for 40% of Sheep turnover. Aberdeen's wage bill was 10.2 m = 73k per employee, ours was 8.5 m = 68k per employee. Now we have more playing staff and they have more commercial staff so it's fair to think the football difference may be a bit higher, say max 15% rather than the 7% indicated by the bare figures. Regardless, the difference is way below what most posters on here assume and it says to me that we are reasonably competitive with Aberdeen on players' wages.

Just a slight correction to your maths here Brog. Aberdeen had 150 employees in the year and their wage bill was £10.2m as you say, but £10,234,000 (to give the exact figure in the accounts) divided by 150 is £68,227 rather than £73k. The exact Hibs figure per employee (£8,466,497/125) is £67,732. So on average Aberdeen are paying their employees a tenner a week more than Hibs.

Assuming my calculator's working and I haven't missed something that of course makes your point even stronger.

[Brightside]

Omeonga and Lacovitti would be very decent business for hibs.

No. No the wouldn’t. And for the final time Omeonga has signed for another club.

[bingo70]

You can. Lacovitti played in one of the best defences outside the old firm.
He’d easily replace rocky for me.and now big fish is away and Hanlon getting on lacovitti fits the leader profile. Steal for someone imo. Missed him county recently and it nearly relegated them trying to patchwork their defence in his absence. I’d think he’d be an option alongside what we have. I’d also sign him over the Carlisle boy we in are in for solely based on a player who knows the league and opposition.

Omeonga,for me solid reliable excellent player to have in squad would be pushing most of what we have already in midfield for a start in the team.
Heckingbottom really missed him in the team and said as much in an interview before he got heaved. He’s a good man marker,quick feet and links well. Martindale very complimentary of his ability also. Seen him take the jambos to task for livy at Tynie in a 1-1 draw very unlucky to concede in 96th minute and he was a stand out.

These guys would be strong additions imo. And be relatively cheap to run with you would think.

I know you’ve taken a bit of a grilling about your suggestions but I’m on board with Iacovetti and agree with your reasoning. There have been times I’ve seen him and he’s been excellent. Granted there have been other occasions he wasn’t as good but if you’re talking about defensive cover for Hanlon I think we need to be realistic and it’s not likely to be a marquee signing on a lot of money. I personally think there’s a good player in there, playing for Ross County as a defender would be difficult as they don’t see a huge amount of the ball and will be under pressure for huge spells of every game, when that’s the case it makes sense there’ll be a few bad games in there, overall though he’s been good for Ross County I think.

If he was a cheap, available option I think he would be a decent squad player without using up massive amount of the budget. In time I think he could replace Hanlon but if he can’t, it’s not a huge issue as PH is really good anyway IMO.

Don’t agree with your Omeonga suggestion.

I do think there’s a snobbish attitude to players playing for teams below us in the league. I’m all for getting the better players in the teams below us and giving them an opportunity to play in a better side, especially if they are cheap.

[B.H.F.C]

You can. Lacovitti played in one of the best defences outside the old firm.
He’d easily replace rocky for me.and now big fish is away and Hanlon getting on lacovitti fits the leader profile. Steal for someone imo. Missed him county recently and it nearly relegated them trying to patchwork their defence in his absence. I’d think he’d be an option alongside what we have. I’d also sign him over the Carlisle boy we in are in for solely based on a player who knows the league and opposition.

Omeonga,for me solid reliable excellent player to have in squad would be pushing most of what we have already in midfield for a start in the team.
Heckingbottom really missed him in the team and said as much in an interview before he got heaved. He’s a good man marker,quick feet and links well. Martindale very complimentary of his ability also. Seen him take the jambos to task for livy at Tynie in a 1-1 draw very unlucky to concede in 96th minute and he was a stand out.

These guys would be strong additions imo. And be relatively cheap to run with you would think.

We don’t need options this summer. We need to sign at least 3 or 4 players who go straight in to the team. The players already there should then become the ‘options’.

Neither of these players would be a guaranteed first pick and when we’ve suffered from having a bloated squad, we can’t be signing more players who are as likely to bloat it as improve it IMO.

[bingo70]

We don’t need options this summer. We need to sign at least 3 or 4 players who go straight in to the team. The players already there should then become the ‘options’.

Neither of these players would be a guaranteed first pick and when we’ve suffered from having a bloated squad, we can’t be signing more players who are as likely to bloat it as improve it IMO.

I don’t think we are likely to sign a better starting left sided centre half than Hanlon on our budget so anybody coming in will be cover.

IMO we need 4 centre half’s at the club. Rocky should be back up RCH, hopefully Fish as the starting one. LCH starter would be Hanlon so we just need someone to act as cover and provide competition for him. We don’t have an unlimited amount of money to buy improvements for every position, there’s going to be elements of squad players being signed as back up. We just need to hope these squad players are a success and are able to break into the first team.

[tonyrougier123]

I know you’ve taken a bit of a grilling about your suggestions but I’m on board with Iacovetti and agree with your reasoning. There have been times I’ve seen him and he’s been excellent. Granted there have been other occasions he wasn’t as good but if you’re talking about defensive cover for Hanlon I think we need to be realistic and it’s not likely to be a marquee signing on a lot of money. I personally think there’s a good player in there, playing for Ross County as a defender would be difficult as they don’t see a huge amount of the ball and will be under pressure for huge spells of every game, when that’s the case it makes sense there’ll be a few bad games in there, overall though he’s been good for Ross County I think.

If he was a cheap, available option I think he would be a decent squad player without using up massive amount of the budget. In time I think he could replace Hanlon but if he can’t, it’s not a huge issue as PH is really good anyway IMO.

Don’t agree with your Omeonga suggestion.

I do think there’s a snobbish attitude to players playing for teams below us in the league. I’m all for getting the better players in the teams below us and giving them an opportunity to play in a better side, especially if they are cheap.
As you said,lacovitti isn’t the finished article,but bigger club,east mains well coached could be a real player there. Good age as well to kick on.

I’ve never understood the below hibs snobbery either,a lot of our success stories have came from teams below us,players with points to prove.

It’s like the too big for relegation attitudes,if you forget how stuffy and hardworking these teams can be they will put you to the sword. Johnson found that out the hard way last summer. And we’ve experienced it a few times in the past.
I think you have to see something in a player you like. And there’s a good few grafters and hibs signings right under our noses imo.
Hope we mix it up a bit and Johnson sees these players himself.

[weecounty hibby]

Omeonga and Lacovitti would be very decent business for hibs.
If we are targeting bottom six!

[B.H.F.C]

As you said,lacovitti isn’t the finished article,but bigger club,east mains well coached could be a real player there. Good age as well to kick on.

I’ve never understood the below hibs snobbery either,a lot of our success stories have came from teams below us,players with points to prove.

It’s like the too big for relegation attitudes,if you forget how stuffy and hardworking these teams can be they will put you to the sword. Johnson found that out the hard way last summer. And we’ve experienced it a few times in the past.
I think you have to see something in a player you like. And there’s a good few grafters and hibs signings right under our noses imo.
Hope we mix it up a bit and Johnson sees these players himself.

Its nothing to do with being snobbish about players playing in teams ‘below’ us. I have just never seen anything in Iacovktti that makes me think he’s a good player that would be worth signing. Sure others are the same.

[bingo70]

Its nothing to do with being snobbish about players playing in teams ‘below’ us. I have just never seen anything in Iacovktti that makes me think he’s a good player that would be worth signing.

It was me that made that point about the snobbish attitude towards players and it was more a general point than one specific about lacovetti. I think that attitude does exist, rather than people looking at positive attributes players have that could work in our side, they are more likely to be dismissed if they come from an unfashionable side.

I personally think you have to look for certain attributes and then look at the team they’re playing for. The guy Dhanda is a good example of that I think. I really don’t know if he’d be good enough or not as I’ve not seen masses of Ross County but he’s a small creative guy that has shown at times he’s got something about him. That’s playing in a defensive team that doesn’t play to his strengths. He’s not blown everyone away this season but if he was put into a side that plays attacking football with the ball on the deck and with fast wingers ahead of him could he step up a level? I’m not sure but I wouldn’t be against the idea of Hibs finding out if the people who have watched more of him think he could. Same applies to Jamie McGrath.

I’ve used two attacking creative players to illustrate a point as I think it’s more obvious with them but I think the same principle applies to defensive players too.

[Unseen work]

As you said,lacovitti isn’t the finished article,but bigger club,east mains well coached could be a real player there. Good age as well to kick on.

I’ve never understood the below hibs snobbery either,a lot of our success stories have came from teams below us,players with points to prove.

It’s like the too big for relegation attitudes,if you forget how stuffy and hardworking these teams can be they will put you to the sword. Johnson found that out the hard way last summer. And we’ve experienced it a few times in the past.
I think you have to see something in a player you like. And there’s a good few grafters and hibs signings right under our noses imo.
Hope we mix it up a bit and Johnson sees these players himself.

Don’t think it’s snobbery at all, they’re just not good enough in peoples opinions.

There are plenty players at teams that finished below us I’d want/quite like us to sign - Loturi, Van Veen, Max Johnston, Levitt, Behich, McGrath, Liam Kelly, Ryan Strain, Mark O’Hara for some examples.


All of them would improve us in one way or another imo.

Iacovitti is a left sided centre half who imo isn’t better than Hanlon and not better than Rocky on the right. Omeonga for me would be behind just about every centre mid we have signed other than Kenneh.

All about opinions, doesn’t mean it’s snobbery

[brog]

Just a slight correction to your maths here Brog. Aberdeen had 150 employees in the year and their wage bill was £10.2m as you say, but £10,234,000 (to give the exact figure in the accounts) divided by 150 is £68,227 rather than £73k. The exact Hibs figure per employee (£8,466,497/125) is £67,732. So on average Aberdeen are paying their employees a tenner a week more than Hibs.
Assuming my calculator's working and I haven't missed something that of course makes your point even stronger.

Thanks! I used 139 as the number of Aberdeen employees which explains the difference.

[Aldo]

You can. Lacovitti played in one of the best defences outside the old firm.
He’d easily replace rocky for me.and now big fish is away and Hanlon getting on lacovitti fits the leader profile. Steal for someone imo. Missed him county recently and it nearly relegated them trying to patchwork their defence in his absence. I’d think he’d be an option alongside what we have. I’d also sign him over the Carlisle boy we in are in for solely based on a player who knows the league and opposition.

Omeonga,for me solid reliable excellent player to have in squad would be pushing most of what we have already in midfield for a start in the team.
Heckingbottom really missed him in the team and said as much in an interview before he got heaved. He’s a good man marker,quick feet and links well. Martindale very complimentary of his ability also. Seen him take the jambos to task for livy at Tynie in a 1-1 draw very unlucky to concede in 96th minute and he was a stand out.

These guys would be strong additions imo. And be relatively cheap to run with you would think.

SO is nowhere near good enough even to make our bench. I think, as others have alluded too, we need 4/5 quality players that will improve us and potentially start!

Not sure the lad from County is the one.

[leithsansiro]

Don’t think it’s snobbery at all, they’re just not good enough in peoples opinions.

There are plenty players at teams that finished below us I’d want/quite like us to sign - Loturi, Van Veen, Max Johnston, Levitt, Behich, McGrath, Liam Kelly, Ryan Strain, Mark O’Hara for some examples.


All of them would improve us in one way or another imo.

Iacovitti is a left sided centre half who imo isn’t better than Hanlon and not better than Rocky on the right. Omeonga for me would be behind just about every centre mid we have signed other than Kenneh.

All about opinions, doesn’t mean it’s snobbery


Loturi and O'Hara are dead certs to go onto bigger and better things I reckon. Just because they're at a club that are seen as being smaller than Hibs, it doesn't mean they aren't worth looking at. I think the same goes for the lad Armstrong at Kilmarknock, who's effectively carried their biggest and only threat this season.

I think there's a player in Dhanda too, to be honest. There's something about him I like, the way he drifts about looking for the ball a lot. He's a wee guy so would need a strong midfield to get the best out of him, but I think he'd probably be decent in a more attacking team.

[B.H.F.C]

It was me that made that point about the snobbish attitude towards players and it was more a general point than one specific about lacovetti. I think that attitude does exist, rather than people looking at positive attributes players have that could work in our side, they are more likely to be dismissed if they come from an unfashionable side.

I personally think you have to look for certain attributes and then look at the team they’re playing for. The guy Dhanda is a good example of that I think. I really don’t know if he’d be good enough or not as I’ve not seen masses of Ross County but he’s a small creative guy that has shown at times he’s got something about him. That’s playing in a defensive team that doesn’t play to his strengths. He’s not blown everyone away this season but if he was put into a side that plays attacking football with the ball on the deck and with fast wingers ahead of him could he step up a level? I’m not sure but I wouldn’t be against the idea of Hibs finding out if the people who have watched more of him think he could. Same applies to Jamie McGrath.

I’ve used two attacking creative players to illustrate a point as I think it’s more obvious with them but I think the same principle applies to defensive players too.

Agree on looking at certain things in players that you could get hold of and develop. In the examples of the two Ross County players I’ve just never seen anything in Iacovitti where I’ve thought that whereas I have seen little bits here and there from Dhanda that make me think he’d be worth a look (without me saying we should go for him).

We signed McGinn from a relegated St Mirren and Nisbet from a Championship team so their is definitely players out there.

[Donegal Hibby]

You can. Lacovitti played in one of the best defences outside the old firm.
He’d easily replace rocky for me.and now big fish is away and Hanlon getting on lacovitti fits the leader profile. Steal for someone imo. Missed him county recently and it nearly relegated them trying to patchwork their defence in his absence. I’d think he’d be an option alongside what we have. I’d also sign him over the Carlisle boy we in are in for solely based on a player who knows the league and opposition.

Omeonga,for me solid reliable excellent player to have in squad would be pushing most of what we have already in midfield for a start in the team.
Heckingbottom really missed him in the team and said as much in an interview before he got heaved. He’s a good man marker,quick feet and links well. Martindale very complimentary of his ability also. Seen him take the jambos to task for livy at Tynie in a 1-1 draw very unlucky to concede in 96th minute and he was a stand out.

These guys would be strong additions imo. And be relatively cheap to run with you would think.

Most teams outside the old firm lost 50 or 60 odd goals this season, Ross county lost 60 and we lost 59 , some others lost 62 and there's only a few goals separating a lot of team's on who has the best defence btw . Ross county should have a good defense this season as they didn't seem to like attacking as they are the 2nd joint worst in the league for goals scored at 37 .

As to Lacovitti easily replacing rocky , rocky before his injury was our best defender and wouldn't be has easily replaced by Lacovitti . We are also trying to get Fish back and signing Lacovitti instead I would see as total downgrade from him tbh .

I liked Omeonga when he was at us though is he any better than what we have at the club now ? I don't think he is in fairness. You say both would be strong additions I really can't see either of them being any better than what we have already at the club. If we are going to challenge Aberdeen and hertz this season for 3rd we need to be signing better than Lacovitti and Omeonga tbh .

[J-C]

Hopefully the new DOF is targetting better players than half the crap on this thread so far.

[Donegal Hibby]

Hopefully the new DOF is targetting better players than half the crap on this thread so far.
If he signs what's mentioned on here you can not only kiss 3rd place goodbye but start looking forward to the relegations play-off games .

[Since90+2]

Just a slight correction to your maths here Brog. Aberdeen had 150 employees in the year and their wage bill was £10.2m as you say, but £10,234,000 (to give the exact figure in the accounts) divided by 150 is £68,227 rather than £73k. The exact Hibs figure per employee (£8,466,497/125) is £67,732. So on average Aberdeen are paying their employees a tenner a week more than Hibs.

Assuming my calculator's working and I haven't missed something that of course makes your point even stronger.

To make an accurate comparison we'd need to know how many playing staff against commercial and support staff each club has.

Otherwise it's just guesswork on everyone's behal as to what the actual first team playing budget is.

[Brightside]

Most teams outside the old firm lost 50 or 60 odd goals this season, Ross county lost 60 and we lost 59 , some others lost 62 and there's only a few goals separating a lot of team's on who has the best defence btw . Ross county should have a good defense this season as they didn't seem to like attacking as they are the 2nd joint worst in the league for goals scored at 37 .

As to Lacovitti easily replacing rocky , rocky before his injury was our best defender and wouldn't be has easily replaced by Lacovitti . We are also trying to get Fish back and signing Lacovitti instead I would see as total downgrade from him tbh .

I liked Omeonga when he was at us though is he any better than what we have at the club now ? I don't think he is in fairness. You say both would be strong additions I really can't see either of them being any better than what we have already at the club. If we are going to challenge Aberdeen and hertz this season for 3rd we need to be signing better than Lacovitti and Omeonga tbh .

Rocky has never been our best defender. He improved loads. But wasn’t close to being our best defender.

[easty]

Omeonga and Lacovitti would be very decent business for hibs.

I’d be happy to see them both sign for Aberdeen or Hearts.

Not good enough.

[Donegal Hibby]

Rocky has never been our best defender. He improved loads. But wasn’t close to being our best defender.
For about 3 months before Porteous left us his form had dipped badly and Rocky was our best defender . Least I thought he was anyhow.

[Caversham Green]

To make an accurate comparison we'd need to know how many playing staff against commercial and support staff each club has.

Otherwise it's just guesswork on everyone's behal as to what the actual first team playing budget is.

Quite right, but the available information strongly suggests that the two clubs' budgets are not as far apart as some are suggesting. If it helps any, the breakdown of numbers is:

Hibs: Players and management 83; Commercial &admin 42.

Aberdeen give a more detailed breakdown (because their comparatives are from when they were a plc) -

Players 44; Management 24; Scouting and youth 11. In total that's 79 compared with Hibs' 83.
Commercial/Admin 59; Maintenance 12 - total 71 against Hibs 42.

That looks to me like a large chunk of Aberdeen's extra wage bill is taken up by the non football categories.

[brog]

To make an accurate comparison we'd need to know how many playing staff against commercial and support staff each club has.

Otherwise it's just guesswork on everyone's behal as to what the actual first team playing budget is.

We already know those personnel numbers but we don't know the breakdown in the overall wage bill. I agree your point in principle but it's not just guesswork, we have some detailed numbers. I would suggest there would be a maximum variance of 10%. It tells us that we're in the same ballpark as Aberdeen which is contrary to the majority opinion on here.

[Since90+2]

Quite right, but the available information strongly suggests that the two clubs' budgets are not as far apart as some are suggesting. If it helps any, the breakdown of numbers is:

Hibs: Players and management 83; Commercial &admin 42.

Aberdeen give a more detailed breakdown (because their comparatives are from when they were a plc) -

Players 44; Management 24; Scouting and youth 11. In total that's 79 compared with Hibs' 83.
Commercial/Admin 59; Maintenance 12 - total 71 against Hibs 42.

That looks to me like a large chunk of Aberdeen's extra wage bill is taken up by the non football categories.

Not sure I agree that a large chunk is on non football categories. The salaries for a lot of those roles will be minimal compared to footballer salaries, we also don't know how many are part time and would therefore be on small salaries.

Even if we take the estimated 10% difference that is being talked about, Aberdeen have guaranteed group stage football so about £3-£4 million to further extend that lead.

If we take the already 10% difference and add on millions from European football, then it's going to be more than a nominal difference in what the can afford to offer players this summer.

[brog]

Not sure I agree that a large chunk is on non football categories. The salaries for a lot of those roles will be minimal compared to footballer salaries, we also don't know how many are part time and would therefore be on small salaries.

Even if we take the estimated 10% difference that is being talked about, Aberdeen have guaranteed group stage football so about £3-£4 million to further extend that lead.

If we take the already 10% difference and add on millions from European football, then it's going to be more than a nominal difference in what the can afford to offer players this summer.

You're making assumptions here. When I said 10% variance that was either way. We have more playing staff than Aberdeen and a good number of these will be youngsters on very low wages. You previously said, Aberdeen will have a higher playing budget than us, I paraphrase. When we give some detailed numbers you say it's all just guesswork.
Aberdeen may make more money from Europe this season, that doesn't necessarily mean it will be invested in the playing side.

[Since90+2]

You're making assumptions here. When I said 10% variance that was either way. We have more playing staff than Aberdeen and a good number of these will be youngsters on very low wages. You previously said, Aberdeen will have a higher playing budget than us, I paraphrase. When we give some detailed numbers you say it's all just guesswork.
Aberdeen may make more money from Europe this season, that doesn't necessarily mean it will be invested in the playing side.

I think it would be naive to think they won't invest some of the money in the playing squad.

If they are pulling in an extra £4 million even 50% invested in the team budget, thats obviously £2 million we have to find from somewhere to keep pace.

£2 million added to a playing budget in Scotland outside the old firm is significant. Thats before we consider they have a very sellable asset in Duk, who would likely bring them in substantial revenue too.

I can't see any other likelihood than the have a significantly larger playing budget than us this season.

[Caversham Green]

Not sure I agree that a large chunk is on non football categories. The salaries for a lot of those roles will be minimal compared to footballer salaries, we also don't know how many are part time and would therefore be on small salaries.

Even if we take the estimated 10% difference that is being talked about, Aberdeen have guaranteed group stage football so about £3-£4 million to further extend that lead.

If we take the already 10% difference and add on millions from European football, then it's going to be more than a nominal difference in what the can afford to offer players this summer.

We have to draw our own conclusions from the available information. Personally I think the fact that Aberdeen employ 69% more commercial/admin staff will account for a substantial portion of their extra wage bill regardless if some are part-time or low paid.

[Dmas]

Aberdeen have held this advantage over us for years, RG mentioned the difference in commercial income between us 5mins after his feet where under the desk, we’ve started closing that gap, I don’t think a team in Scotland out with the OF adjusts the budgets that much by qualifying for Europe it’s not something that they can guarantee so inflating the player budget now and missing out next year puts them in a hole, they will be paying slightly more and they have Europe to help attract as well we just need to find a way of making ourselves a better option

[Since452]

Omeonga and Lacovitti would be very decent business for hibs.

Do people not remember how poor Omeonga was last time with us? He was barely noticeable at Livingston. If he hadn't had an ok-ish loan spell under Hecky years ago would anyone even mention him as a signing target?

[bingo70]

Do people not remember how poor Omeonga was last time with us? He was barely noticeable at Livingston. If he hasn't had an ok-ish loan spell under Hecky years ago would anyone even mention him as a signing target?

He was excellent in a game against us for Livi shortly after joining them. I think that game is playing tricks with people’s memory of him.

[tonyrougier123]

Do people not remember how poor Omeonga was last time with us? He was barely noticeable at Livingston. If he hadn't had an ok-ish loan spell under Hecky years ago would anyone even mention him as a signing target?

Folk see different things,and remember different things in players. I’m not asking you to change what I seen in omeonga,there’s just folk on here can’t stand a different opinion on players.
He wasn’t poor last time,he barely played as Ross fancied docherty over him mainly.
As for barely noticeable at livy depends on who was taking notice of opposing teams I suppose. Games I seen him either on highlights or Alba playbacks when he played he was integral to their good patches in form,and had very good games against early season sevco and hearts.

[HFC93]

A top tip for future mediocre Hibs players is learn to play GGTTH on the piano. Folk will reminisce about you despite ultimately being a pretty average footballer.

[tonyrougier123]

A top tip for future mediocre Hibs players is learn to play GGTTH on the piano. Folk will reminisce about you despite ultimately being a pretty average footballer.

Nonsense! 😂

[The Modfather]

I don’t think Omeonga would be a bad signing in itself, the issue would be he’s not a clear upgrade on Jeggo/Newell/Campbell/JDH, different skill set, but ability wise much of a muchness IMO.

[Springbank]

I don’t think Omeonga would be a bad signing in itself, the issue would be he’s not a clear upgrade on Jeggo/Newell/Campbell/JDH, different skill set, but ability wise much of a muchness IMO.

That's where Levitt and McGrath on paper would make a difference

The likes of an Arfield and Turnbull would be a further step up in class again

[CapitalGreen]

That's where Levitt and McGrath on paper would make a difference

The likes of an Arfield and Turnbull would be a further step up in class again

What does McGrath bring that we don’t already have?

[Donegal Hibby]

He was excellent in a game against us for Livi shortly after joining them. I think that game is playing tricks with people’s memory of him.
I remember that game and he was excellent in it though the 4-0 at ER he was a substitute . 4-1 away can't say he really made a impact on the game apart from the O.G he got . I don't mind Omeonga tbh though I do ask the question is he any better than what we have ? and will he improve our team too? Not so so he does on both tbh .

[Smartie]

I noticed on Raith's announcement thing for Kevin Dabrowski that they've said he's 6ft 6 and that's what it says on his wiki.

Is that right? I didn't think he was anything like as tall as that.

[leithsansiro]

That's where Levitt and McGrath on paper would make a difference

The likes of an Arfield and Turnbull would be a further step up in class again

True, but there's not a chance we're even close to getting Turnbull from Celtic. He'd be looking at options in the English Championship for much bigger money than we could afford.

[Brightside]

I don’t think Omeonga would be a bad signing in itself, the issue would be he’s not a clear upgrade on Jeggo/Newell/Campbell/JDH, different skill set, but ability wise much of a muchness IMO.

It would be a miracle signing. He’s already signed for a team in Doha!

[leftpeg]

Rocky has never been our best defender. He improved loads. But wasn’t close to being our best defender.For Rocky's height and strength he isn't great in the air and seems to miss time his headers.
I noticed a huge improvement when Fish came in to partner Hanlon,Fish is excellent in the air in both boxes, which is so important in the spl hope we can get him back in.

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[JohnM1875]

What does McGrath bring that we don’t already have?

Absolutely nothing in my opinion. Think we should steer clear of him.

[MrSmith]

My memories of omeonga was his engine, spirit and desire to never give up on a lost ball. I’m sure in his second spell with us he was injured or ill and never quite quite got back to form. If he is the player I saw first time round then, I’d have him over JDH or Newell any day of the week.

[JohnM1875]

My memories of omeonga was his engine, spirit and desire to never give up on a lost ball. I’m sure in his second spell with us he was injured or i and never quite got back to form. If he is the player I saw first time round then, I’d have him over JDH or Newell any day of the week.

Same. Great engine, loves a tackle, drives with the ball, tenacious and scored a bumper of a goal in the cup for us. Was pretty raw in his first spell. But he's has plenty first team football in our division now and I don't doubt he's a better player for it.

Wouldn't have him over Newell though and JDH has been brilliant lately.

[easty]

My memories of omeonga was his engine, spirit and desire to never give up on a lost ball. I’m sure in his second spell with us he was injured or ill and never quite quite got back to form. If he is the player I saw first time round then, I’d have him over JDH or Newell any day of the week.

Omeonga over Newell is absolutely ridiculous

[Smartie]

Omeonga over Newell is absolutely ridiculous

I reckon Omeonga’s graft would be a decent foil for Newell though.

[HFC93]

Omeonga over Newell is absolutely ridiculous

Yep, a wild take. The same Omeonga who couldn't get a start for Livi at points this season.

[cabbageandribs1875]

since jan omeonga has played...

four full 90 mins
10 subbed on/off
two games out
two games not used
one red card


i like the guy but i'm not sure he would enhance us

[LeithMike]

You can. Lacovitti played in one of the best defences outside the old firm.
He’d easily replace rocky for me.and now big fish is away and Hanlon getting on lacovitti fits the leader profile. Steal for someone imo. Missed him county recently and it nearly relegated them trying to patchwork their defence in his absence. I’d think he’d be an option alongside what we have. I’d also sign him over the Carlisle boy we in are in for solely based on a player who knows the league and opposition.

Omeonga,for me solid reliable excellent player to have in squad would be pushing most of what we have already in midfield for a start in the team.
Heckingbottom really missed him in the team and said as much in an interview before he got heaved. He’s a good man marker,quick feet and links well. Martindale very complimentary of his ability also. Seen him take the jambos to task for livy at Tynie in a 1-1 draw very unlucky to concede in 96th minute and he was a stand out.

These guys would be strong additions imo. And be relatively cheap to run with you would think.

One of the more well thought out posts on here.

Don’t know much about Lacovitti but certainly agree on Oneonga. Written off after one bad game against Hearts when at least he kept going when others in midfield just gave up. Would take him above all our present midfielders but appreciate it is not happening.


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[LeithMike]

Rocky has never been our best defender. He improved loads. But wasn’t close to being our best defender.

I’d certainly say Rocky has been our best defender this year and that’s from someone who didn’t rate him and thought we signed him by mistake.

Look forward to more progress next season and think he will become our most valuable asset.


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[Willis1875]

STV’s Raman tweeting that Nisbet has completed his move to Millwall,£2million plus add ons.3 year deal

[JamesHFC]

STV’s Raman tweeting that Nisbet has completed his move to Millwall,£2million plus add ons.3 year deal

Deal done before any possible injuries in the Scotland qualifiers, time to get stuck into getting a replacement.

[Heisenberg]

STV’s Raman tweeting that Nisbet has completed his move to Millwall,£2million plus add ons.3 year deal

Probably about as good a deal as we could expect given the circumstances.

[Mikey_1875]

Great news if that has been wrapped up early.

[Donegal Hibby]

STV’s Raman tweeting that Nisbet has completed his move to Millwall,£2million plus add ons.3 year deal
Not going to be easy to replace him 😔
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/23581043.hibernian-striker-kevin-nisbet-completes-2million-millwall-switch/

[JohnM1875]

STV’s Raman tweeting that Nisbet has completed his move to Millwall,£2million plus add ons.3 year deal

Don't mind that. Nice and early. Now come on Hibs, some incomings please!

[McGruber]

He was always going this summer, good it is early. We weren't getting more than £2 million at this stage from any club.
Hopefully see some bodies in shortly - there's a bit space, at least 16 bodies out the door now all in between 1st and development teams

[Hibs90]

So is it definitely £2m PLUS add ons or INCLUDING? Seeing conflicting reports from now and before.

[Hibiza]

One of the more well thought out posts on here.

Don’t know much about Lacovitti but certainly agree on Oneonga. Written off after one bad game against Hearts when at least he kept going when others in midfield just gave up. Would take him above all our present midfielders but appreciate it is not happening.


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Spot on.

[SHODAN]

Really pleased we've avoided a whole summer of this and can get in a replacement early.

[badabing67]

Genuinely thought others clubs would of come in for him. Anyway all the best for the future Nizzy... thanks for coming to us.

[BSEJVT]

Good Luck Kevin

Massively underrated and under appreciated by a lot of Hibs Supporters

Some of the stick he got was ridiculous

Easily amongst the top 20 strikers in my 60 years as a Hibs Supporter

[Billy Whizz]

Radio Scotland saying a 5pm statement

[Donegal Hibby]

Genuinely thought others clubs would of come in for him. Anyway all the best for the future Nizzy... thanks for coming to us.
So did I actually and had hoped he'd had got better than a club Millwall tbh . Going to be hard to replace a player of his quality too . Anyhow wish him well . Thanks for the goals Nizzy .

[MelbourneHibees]

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/millwall-land-hibernian-striker-kevin-nisbet/

Claiming the deal is closer to 1 million.

[Hibernian Verse]

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/millwall-land-hibernian-striker-kevin-nisbet/

Claiming the deal is closer to 1 million.

Raman is usually spot on. No way Hibs sell for a million.

[madhatter]

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/millwall-land-hibernian-striker-kevin-nisbet/

Claiming the deal is closer to 1 million.

No chance 1mil unless hefty, and I mean hefty, add-ons.

[thebausburst]

Millwall side all reporting fee closer to 1m, surely not especially when we’re due Dunfermline several hundred.

[Big_Franck]

Raman is usually spot on. No way Hibs sell for a million.

I think it'll be just over a million plus various add ons, most of which we'll never get, that could take it to £2m.

I don't believe anyone would pay £2m up front plus add ons for a Kevin Nisbet with 12 months left on his contract. Especially not Millwall whose club record signing is £1.7m

[madhatter]

I think it'll be just over a million plus various add ons, most of which we'll never get, that could take it to £2m.

I don't believe anyone would pay £2m up front plus add ons for a Kevin Nisbet with 12 months left on his contract. Especially not Millwall whose club record signing is £1.7m

Scary that a proven goalscorer would be getting sold for less than an average defender/midfielder. Aberdeen got more for McCrorie than we're getting for Nisbet? Jeez, we may as well pack up and quit...

[Lago]

But okay with the Saudi's taking over Newcastle? 😅


Good Luck Kevin

Massively underrated and under appreciated by a lot of Hibs Supporters

Some of the stick he got was ridiculous

Easily amongst the top 20 strikers in my 60 years as a Hibs Supporter
Disappointing the way a certain section of the fan base treated him, always liked him and he did well in what for a period was a poor Hibs team.

[Brightside]

I’d certainly say Rocky has been our best defender this year and that’s from someone who didn’t rate him and thought we signed him by mistake.

Look forward to more progress next season and think he will become our most valuable asset.


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Rocky is miles behind Fish and Hanlon. Miles. He’s a decent basic defender but no more than that.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think it'll be just over a million plus various add ons, most of which we'll never get, that could take it to £2m.

I don't believe anyone would pay £2m up front plus add ons for a Kevin Nisbet with 12 months left on his contract. Especially not Millwall whose club record signing is £1.7m

Yeah I’d be pleasantly surprised if it’s £2m.

I reckon we’d take slightly over £1m with add ons, sell on etc.

[Lago]

Millwall side all reporting fee closer to 1m, surely not especially when we’re due Dunfermline several hundred.
It's the old story, buying club we got a bargain £1million fee, selling club we got a great deal sold for £2 million plus add ons, take your pick.

[Brightside]

So didn't I actually and had hoped he'd had got better than a club Millwall tbh . Going to be hard to replace a player of his quality too . Anyhow wish him well . Thanks for the goals Nizzy .

It was agreed before end of season. It’s a good deal for us and him. Let’s see what we go for now.

[Hibs90]

If it's around 1.x million or so plus add ons that we are likely to never see that's absolutely dreadful business from Hibs IMO. People will say 12 months left blah blah blah. I'd rather have kept him until January and got a good few goals out of him.

[ElginHibbie]

It's the old story, buying club we got a bargain £1million fee, selling club we got a great deal sold for £2 million plus add ons, take your pick.

Shame so many people supporting the selling club jump to the buying club being the ones always telling the truth!

[madhatter]

Yeah I’d be pleasantly surprised if it’s £2m.

I reckon we’d take slightly over £1m with add ons, sell on etc.

Genuinely if this is the case then Hibs will only shrink as a club. We need to be selling our players for more. Football is finished if Real Madrid are spending £100m on a player and our most prolific goalscorer is going for a little over a £1m. Did we not sign him for £250k with addons?

No way we sign a similar player and pay Dunfermline their due with a little over a million quid. Be surprised that this doesn't turn out as a loss for Hibs. Significant one at that once we, almost inevitably, sign a dud.

[JamesHFC]

£1 million is nonsense.

[Smartie]

There was something weird about what happened in January.

None of the suggested fees would surprise me tbh. His cv can be painted in a way that £2m plus add ons would be suitable, there’s a set of circumstances that mean that the £1m might be more appropriate.

I’m delighted we’ve got it done early though, so we’re not getting into a situation where we’re late in the window wondering whether we’re building a team around a player who had no interest in being with us next season and uncertainty regarding whether we have a player or a bit more cash.

[Tully]

Dunfermline fan who I work with said they got 375k which was 17.5 percent of the fee

[Donegal Hibby]

It was agreed before end of season. It’s a good deal for us and him. Let’s see what we go for now.
Money wise i suppose with the time Dunfermline get there cut out is ok nothing more and it sets him up financially though it's a not a great club he's went too . Losing him definitely weakens us and I doubt we will get a replacement as good tbh .

[Cheshire Hibee]

Given Aberdeen always seem to chase players Hibs are targeting maybe time we attempted to snatch one of their targets from under their noses.
Croatian attacking midfielder Tonio Teklic looks decent and would be a good addition.
There are a couple we could move out to make room for him


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[Paulie Walnuts]

Genuinely if this is the case then Hibs will only shrink as a club. We need to be selling our players for more. Football is finished if Real Madrid are spending £100m on a player and our most prolific goalscorer is going for a little over a £1m. Did we not sign him for £250k with addons?

No way we sign a similar player and pay Dunfermline their due with a little over a million quid. Be surprised that this doesn't turn out as a loss for Hibs. Significant one at that once we, almost inevitably, sign a dud.

We can only sell for more if the bids come in.

Whilst I’d agree it’s frustrating I just don’t see where bids of £2m for Nisbet are coming from with a year left. I think he’ll be a squad player there, same with most teams in the Championship and probably just get into double figures so I’d be surprised if Milwall would have broken their transfer record on him.

[Hibernian Verse]

We can only sell for more if the bids come in.

Whilst I’d agree it’s frustrating I just don’t see where bids of £2m for Nisbet are coming from with a year left. I think he’ll be a squad player there, same with most teams in the Championship and probably just get into double figures so I’d be surprised if Milwall would have broken their transfer record on him.

You should’ve told Nizzy so he didn’t waste his time

[Donegal Hibby]

We can only sell for more if the bids come in.

Whilst I’d agree it’s frustrating I just don’t see where bids of £2m for Nisbet are coming from with a year left. I think he’ll be a squad player there, same with most teams in the Championship and probably just get into double figures so I’d be surprised if Milwall would have broken their transfer record on him.

Think your underestimating the quality of Kevin Nisbet tbh if you think he will just be a squad player there . A international striker of his quality with his goalscoring record is reason enough why there should be £2 million bids for him coming in .

Don't believe for a minute we have sold him for just £1 million . I got told on here when I mentioned moving for van Veen that Motherwell would be wanting crazy money for him , if Nisbet is only worth £1 million then van vans only worth £200,000 imo .

[Brooster]

Dunfermline fan who I work with said they got 375k which was 17.5 percent of the fee

Dunfermline are due 30% of the fee.

[Since90+2]

Think your underestimating the quality of Kevin Nisbet tbh if you think he will just be a squad player there . A international striker of his quality with his goalscoring record is reason enough why there should be £2 million bids for him coming in .

Don't believe for a minute we have sold him for just £1 million . I got told on here when I mentioned moving for van Veen that Motherwell would be wanting crazy money for him , if Nisbet is only worth £1 million then van vans only worth £200,000 imo .

Appreciate its very much plucking a number from the air, but I think they'll probably get about £500,000 for Van Veen.

[Since90+2]

Dunfermline are due 30% of the fee.

Is it not 30% of the profit? Ie it doesn't kick in until the amount of money Hibs paid for him.

[Steven79]

Dunfermline are due 30% of the fee.Surely of the profit not the fee?

Surprised bigger clubs didn't try and get him when he was at Raith as it was obvious then he had something about him.

Raith get nothing for him and Dunfermline make a smal fortune off the back of it.

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[CapitalGreen]

Surely of the profit not the fee?

Surprised bigger clubs didn't try and get him when he was at Raith as it was obvious then he had something about him.

Raith get nothing for him and Dunfermline make a smal fortune off the back of it.

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Raith Rovers will get a small % from Millwall.

[Donegal Hibby]

Appreciate its very much plucking a number from the air, but I think they'll probably get about £500,000 for Van Veen.
If we've sold a international striker with a far better goalscoring record for £1million and Motherwell can get £500,000 for Van Veen I'd seriously like us to swap who's doing the negotiating on Nisbet's deal with whoever's doing the deal on Van Veens quite frankly.

[May21/05/216]

We can only sell for more if the bids come in.

Whilst I’d agree it’s frustrating I just don’t see where bids of £2m for Nisbet are coming from with a year left. I think he’ll be a squad player there, same with most teams in the Championship and probably just get into double figures so I’d be surprised if Milwall would have broken their transfer record on him.I disagree he will be more than a squad player

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[Donegal Hibby]

Confirmed by the club .
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/kevin-nisbet-joins-millwall

[04Sauzee]

Confirmed he's away , significant 7 figure feee with add ons and sell on fee.

Let's get the replacement in early

[Tully]

Dunfermline are due 30% of the fee.

Just spoke to him again 375k is what they’re due

[ElginHibbie]

Confirmed he's away , significant 7 figure feee with add ons and sell on fee.

Let's get the replacement in early

So £1mil upfront, another approx £1mil over certain amount of time and other add ons depending on performance?

[GreenGray]

There’s something pretty depressing about a standard championship club signing one of our best players for pretty cheap. Modern football I suppose.


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[Donegal Hibby]

Confirmed he's away , significant 7 figure feee with add ons and sell on fee.

Let's get the replacement in early
Club happy with the fee . EEN saying HIBS will get more than £2 million with add ons included and there's a sell on clause too . More like what I think it would be instead of a million 😂😂😂
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/kevin-nisbet-seals-millwall-move-with-hibs-netting-ps2m-for-scotland-striker-4177981

[hibee-boys]

Anyone ITK able to enlighten us on typical conditions for the ‘add-ons’ regularly mentioned in transfers? I’m guessing promotion, goals scored, appearances etc🤷🏼

[Since90+2]

If we've sold a international striker with a far better goalscoring record for £1million and Motherwell can get £500,000 for Van Veen I'd seriously like us to swap who's doing the negotiating on Nisbet's deal with whoever's doing the deal on Van Veens quite frankly.

Van Veen had a phenomenal goal scoring record last season. Miles above what Nisbet has achieved in the top league.

I'm not saying he's better than Nisbet, but I can see why they'd be looking for around that amount.

[HoboHarry]

We can only sell for more if the bids come in.

Whilst I’d agree it’s frustrating I just don’t see where bids of £2m for Nisbet are coming from with a year left. I think he’ll be a squad player there, same with most teams in the Championship and probably just get into double figures so I’d be surprised if Milwall would have broken their transfer record on him.
Squad player? Aye right.

[Brightside]

If we've sold a international striker with a far better goalscoring record for £1million and Motherwell can get £500,000 for Van Veen I'd seriously like us to swap who's doing the negotiating on Nisbet's deal with whoever's doing the deal on Van Veens quite frankly.

It wasn’t £1m though.

[Donegal Hibby]

It wasn’t £1m though.
Agreed , that figure thats been mentioned is nonsense.

[Trinity Hibee]

Squad player? Aye right.

Not sure it’s that much of a stretch. Better players than nisbet have gone down south and not made it. We’ll see

[MelbourneHibees]

The full terms of the 26-year-old’s departure will remain undisclosed, however, it does include sizeable add-ons and a sell-on fee.

Sizeable add ons suggests that the initial fee is probably on the lower end of 1 million than the higher end. If we are to believe the full deal is worth 2 million. low. Along with the fact they are saying its a "seven figure fee".

[Donegal Hibby]

Wonder will we see a replacement for Nisbet fairly quickly ?

[MelbourneHibees]

Just spoke to him again 375k is what they’re due

How can pars know what they are due if Hibs don't even know yet (as add ons conditions haven't yet been realised)

[Trinity Hibee]

Wonder will we see a replacement for Nisbet fairly quickly ?

You’d like to hope so. Nisbet leaving is not unexpected so hopefully someone in in next couple of weeks

[1875Sean]

We can only sell for more if the bids come in.

Whilst I’d agree it’s frustrating I just don’t see where bids of £2m for Nisbet are coming from with a year left. I think he’ll be a squad player there, same with most teams in the Championship and probably just get into double figures so I’d be surprised if Milwall would have broken their transfer record on him.

Squad player … you been on the drink all day?

[tamig]

Given Aberdeen always seem to chase players Hibs are targeting maybe time we attempted to snatch one of their targets from under their noses.
Croatian attacking midfielder Tonio Teklic looks decent and would be a good addition.
There are a couple we could move out to make room for him


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It doesn’t work as easily as that though. You can’t just “move out” contracted players.

[Tully]

How can pars know what they are due if Hibs don't even know yet (as add ons conditions haven't yet been realised)
Only going on info received but maybe you no better than him

[tamig]

We can only sell for more if the bids come in.

Whilst I’d agree it’s frustrating I just don’t see where bids of £2m for Nisbet are coming from with a year left. I think he’ll be a squad player there, same with most teams in the Championship and probably just get into double figures so I’d be surprised if Milwall would have broken their transfer record on him.

I think you’re seriously underestimating KNs qualities. Lets see though. No way he is going there as a squad player. He’s an internationalist and will have more involvement with the national side in future and is an intelligent footballer who is fiercely ambitious. Come back in a year and tell me how he’s done.

[tamig]

How can pars know what they are due if Hibs don't even know yet (as add ons conditions haven't yet been realised)

Exactly. And a random fan at that as well.

[Brightside]

How can pars know what they are due if Hibs don't even know yet (as add ons conditions haven't yet been realised)

They don’t get anything from the add ons.

[CapitalGreen]

They don’t get anything from the add ons.

They’ll continue to get a % of any add-ons we get.

[bingo70]

I don’t get that either. The minute they don’t get paid on time their contract has been broken surely? Unless there’s a built in ‘default’ period that needs to pass as well.

On the Wigan note, Maloney made a terrible decision going there with all that’s going on. After failing at Hibs he needed this job to be a success and he picked a job that had no prospect of that.

https://twitter.com/secondtierpod/status/1667569013772238850?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Apparently Wigan players can give notice and if not paid in that time they can leave. Could be useful if we are genuinely interested in Kerr or McGrath.

[Springbank]

Seeing as they are on Scotland duty at present, it would be a terrible shame if Nisbet & Porteous were to let Shankland know how much money they are getting, compared to Shankland's relative pittance in EH11.

They could possibly pay him more, to clean their boots, than Hearts pay him to score goals

[Tully]

Exactly. And a random fan at that as well.

One that’s on there fans committee no really random but you’ll know better than him

[degenerated]

Van Veen had a phenomenal goal scoring record last season. Miles above what Nisbet has achieved in the top league.

I'm not saying he's better than Nisbet, but I can see why they'd be looking for around that amount.But for the 14 seasons before that it was pretty poor, in fact the only time he managed more than 10 league goals was in the Dutch 4th division.

[MelbourneHibees]

They’ll continue to get a % of any add-ons we get.

Haha that's a good one.

Hibs should have asked Millwall to pay £1 with £1.5million add ons based on him making 1 appearance.

[MelbourneHibees]

Only going on info received but maybe you no better than him

I definitely know that Pars and Hibs do not know the total value of this deal yet. Maybe 375k is the maximum Pars can hope to get which would mean the total value of the deal is worth just over 2 million.

[Paulie Walnuts]

You should’ve told Nizzy so he didn’t waste his time

He’ll get himself a nice pay packet so it’s not really wasting his time, is it?

He had a decent record at Hibs. Scoring a goal every 2.6 games in Scotland hardly screams of a guy who’s going to go down there and be a guaranteed star. It’s an almost identical record to what Dykes up here for example and he’s now got a record of 1 in 4 down there. Does alright for a middle of the road side but he’s not exactly threatening to move up a league or that.

Nisbet will do alright down there and make a career for himself at that level. His career is much more likely to be like Dykes than McGinn though. Don’t see him going any higher than mid table Championship.

[JimBHibees]

Rocky is miles behind Fish and Hanlon. Miles. He’s a decent basic defender but no more than that.

Hear what you are saying not sure about miles as has huge potential

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/secondtierpod/status/1667569013772238850?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Apparently Wigan players can give notice and if not paid in that time they can leave. Could be useful if we are genuinely interested in Kerr or McGrath.

:aok:

Fingers crossed Kerr takes the opportunity.

[Dr_Regal]

My maths says fee is 2.1m if pars get 17.5% and they received 375k

[Brightside]

They’ll continue to get a % of any add-ons we get.

Yeh. But they don’t get that now was my point.

[JimBHibees]

They’ll continue to get a % of any add-ons we get.

Only people involved in the original contract would know that

[brog]

They don’t get anything from the add ons.

It depends on how the deal was done but unless specifically excluded, the deal is usually a % of profit on resale. Normally that would include add ons as that contributes to the overall profit.
Re the Pars, it's not unreasonable that they would know their share of the initial fee but it does seem a bit strange that a fan is discussing it so soon after the deal was announced.

[JimBHibees]

Thanks Kevin hope it works well an excellent signing.

[MelbourneHibees]

Yeh. But they don’t get that now was my point.

Hahaha. Was it ****!

[ElginHibbie]

Only people involved in the original contract would know that

True, but it would have been very silly for Dunfermline to leave themselves open to Hibs selling Nisbet in some deal that screwed them over, so a % of any money we ever get relating to him makes the most sense to put into a deal

[Tambo]

Not saying we should be trying to move for him or anything I noticed Ross Barkley left Nice a few days ago, wonder what level he moves to next.

Hibs wise I'm sure we'll see a few names linked next week for Nisbets replacement.

[bingo70]

Not saying we should be trying to move for him or anything I noticed Ross Barkley left Nice a few days ago, wonder what level he moves to next.

Hibs wise I'm sure we'll see a few names linked next week for Nisbets replacement.

Could see Barklay at Rangers next season.

Nisbet replacement will be interesting, any proven goal scorer we have heard of is unlikely to be affordable so it’ll be a foreigner we’ve not heard of before or a young striker from a big club down south.

Big Myke will sign im sure and if fit he’d be a great replacement, we can’t rely on him staying fit though so it’ll be him and one other that’s signed I think.

[Ray_]

Seeing as they are on Scotland duty at present, it would be a terrible shame if Nisbet & Porteous were to let Shankland know how much money they are getting, compared to Shankland's relative pittance in EH11.

They could possibly pay him more, to clean their boots, than Hearts pay him to score goals

At the moment he is still at Hearts, sadly Hibs can't say the same with their now, former players.

[Since90+2]

But for the 14 seasons before that it was pretty poor, in fact the only time he managed more than 10 league goals was in the Dutch 4th division.

I suppose the other way to look at it is, if we had a striker who scored 24 league goals, broke the all time consecutive scoring record would we be happy to sell him for less than £500,000?

I'm guessing the answer is probably not, so I wouldn't expect Motherwell to.

[Donegal Hibby]

I suppose the other way to look at it is, if we had a striker who scored 24 league goals, broke the all time consecutive scoring record would we be happy to sell him for less than £500,000?

I'm guessing the answer is probably not, so I wouldn't expect Motherwell to.

Problem for Motherwell though are he's coming 33 and his contract has a year left which will greatly effect what they will get for him imo . Your right in they might not be happy to sell him for less than £500,000 though if a club offers £250,000 or £300,000 and there's no other bids do they turn it down and let him walk for nothing in a few months time? .

[Since90+2]

Problems for Motherwell though are he's coming 33 and his contract has a year left which will greatly effect what they will get for him imo . Your right in they might not be happy to sell him for less than £500,000 though if a club offers £250,000 or £300,000 and there's no other bids do they turn it down and let him walk for nothing in a few months time? .

He just turned 32 last week he's not coming up for 33, literally a few days ago he turned 32.

Football fans always add on / remove a year or two to suit their point.

I wish I could keep taking the years off so easily 😂

You're a good poster Donegal, don't always agree with you but I enjoy reading your posts.

[Donegal Hibby]

He just turned 32 last week he's not coming up for 33, literally a few days ago he turned 32.

Football fans always add on / remove a year or two to suit their point.

I wish I could keep taking the years off so easily 😂

Ok , he's turned 32 though are you saying a club will spend £500,000 on a player and then offer him a 6 months contract and let him go before he becomes 33 ? . 😂

Some football fans always avoid the main question by bringing up something trivial as well !

No need for you to take years off as you obviously don't believe in the ageing process anyhow 🤣🤣

[CallumLaidlaw]

Ok , he's turned 32 though are you saying a club will spend £500,000 on a player and then offer him a 6 months contract and let him go before he becomes 33 ? . [emoji23]

Some football fans always avoid the main question by bringing up something trivial as well !

No need for you to take years off as you obviously don't believe in the ageing process anyhow [emoji1787][emoji1787]

If a club at a decent level think he’s a worth it then it’s pocket change tbf.


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[Smartie]

If a club at a decent level think he’s a worth it then it’s pocket change tbf.


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If, say, the huns got their whole team sorted out but needed someone to reliably put the ball in the net for a relatively short period then it might be a gamble worth taking for them.

There’s also quite a lot more of money that gets spent incredibly badly down South, particularly at clubs who find themselves relegated but with a budget of a higher division club.

These sorts of situations might see someone take a punt.

Hibs just need to be more careful with the spending. We don’t have pots of cash, even we’ve spent quite carelessly over the past few years. I can’t envisage a situation where van Veen moving from Motherwell to Hibs is the best option for all 3 parties right now.

[Hibernian Verse]

Would it not be worth more to Motherwell to keep him and hope he replicates it again and gets them in Europe?

[flash]

At the moment he is still at Hearts, sadly Hibs can't say the same with their now, former players.

And he will be sold with a year to go too as Hertz operate just yge sane as ourselves and Aberdeen.

[Ray_]

And he will be sold with a year to go too as Hertz operate just yge sane as ourselves and Aberdeen.

It seemed a totally mute point in trying to have a dig at hearts, with two departed Hibs stars, and a hearts player who was still there, irrespective what May or may not happen to him.

[flash]

It seemed a totally mute point in trying to have a dig at hearts, with two departed Hibs stars, and a hearts player who was still there, irrespective what May or may not happen to him.

Aye fair point.

[#2 Double Tap]

It seemed a totally mute point in trying to have a dig at hearts, with two departed Hibs stars, and a hearts player who was still there, irrespective what May or may not happen to him.

Having a dig at hertz for anything, is fair game and the right thing to do on or in any circumstance imho

:)

[A Hi-Bee]

Van Deem Damn will be going nowhere near Hibs even if we wanted him. We need some good sourced rumors about who will replace Nizzy on the goal trail, no garantee that Boyler will be back as good as he was for many months.

Oh almost forgot-**** the hertz

[Greenworld]

Problem for Motherwell though are he's coming 33 and his contract has a year left which will greatly effect what they will get for him imo . Your right in they might not be happy to sell him for less than £500,000 though if a club offers £250,000 or £300,000 and there's no other bids do they turn it down and let him walk for nothing in a few months time? .
Would it not be worth more to Motherwell to keep him and hope he replicates it again and gets them in Europe?History tell us that very rarely are they sort of seasons replicated

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[Paloschi]

Heard we are after a young Austrian forward, Marlon Mustapha. Apparently a loan deal. Can play on the wing. A few clubs interested.

Update on this. Loan agreed with Hibs but the player is signing a new contract with Mainz so unlikely we can sign him permanently. I am told this has caused our interest to cool slightly. Unfortunately, Hearts are looking at him too. He looks like an excellent player.

[Paloschi]

I also asked for more names. Nothing concrete at this stage as it’s very early in the summer. The other player mentioned was Valton Behrami , a swiss left back who plays for Servette. 19 year old.

[A Hi-Bee]

I also asked for more names. Nothing concrete at this stage as it’s very early in the summer. The other player mentioned was Valton Behrami , a swiss left back who plays for Servette. 19 year old.

Do you think we will/should go for the young guy from Mainz? (Great wee town by the way)
:thumbsup:

[Unseen work]

Update on this. Loan agreed with Hibs but the player is signing a new contract with Mainz so unlikely we can sign him permanently. I am told this has caused our interest to cool slightly. Unfortunately, Hearts are looking at him too. He looks like an excellent player.

Wonder if the new deal is just so they secure a fee for him and then we could work in an option to buy for X amount.

19 year old left back is an interesting one given we have McIntyre, would have expected anyone in that position to be mid 20’s or so

Cheers for sharing!

[Paloschi]

Do you think we will/should go for the young guy from Mainz? (Great wee town by the way)
:thumbsup:

He certainly looks the part. Very pacey but a bit more physically imposing than Boyle and Youan. Definitely fits our profile.

[HendoDelivered]

He certainly looks the part. Very pacey but a bit more physically imposing than Boyle and Youan. Definitely fits our profile.

This one down to McDermott mate?

[Paloschi]

This one down to McDermott mate?

Genuinely no idea. I can ask. From how it sounded, it was a player we’ve known about for a while. I can’t name staff members specifically too otherwise it could get me into trouble!

[CapitalGreen]

I also asked for more names. Nothing concrete at this stage as it’s very early in the summer. The other player mentioned was Valton Behrami , a swiss left back who plays for Servette. 19 year old.

”Valton Behrami is loaned to AC Bellinzona for a period of 16 months, i.e. until June 30, 2024. This loan does not come with an option to buy.”

https://servettefc.ch/valton-behrami-est-prete-a-lac-bellinzona/

[A Hi-Bee]

He certainly looks the part. Very pacey but a bit more physically imposing than Boyle and Youan. Definitely fits our profile.

Cheers, with any luck they could also organise a friendly with his team, that would be worth a wee visit for sure.
:thumbsup:

[Paloschi]

”Valton Behrami is loaned to AC Bellinzona for a period of 16 months, i.e. until June 30, 2024. This loan does not come with an option to buy.”

https://servettefc.ch/valton-behrami-est-prete-a-lac-bellinzona/

I saw this as well. Will check back. I think nowadays you can take over a loan deal or a loan can be cancelled if a transfer bid is made. Anyway, it’s a name we are looking at. Doesn’t mean he signs this summer