Summer transfer thread 2023

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

So a fairly new defence then:

Marshall / Wollacot

Miller / Megwa (Cadden)
Fish / Rocky
Hanlon / Harbottle
Obita / Stevenson

Levitt / Jeggo / Delferrier
Newell / Henderson
JDH / Campbell

Boyle / (McKirdy)
ALF / Melkerson / Doidge
Youan / Mackay

So I reckon we are light in attacking midfield (depth) and also short of a striker (assuming Doidge goes) and right winger (not convinced Melks can play RW).

[scm70nyd1973]

One Halfbottle hanging on the wall ....!!! 😊

Or to the Manics song of “Design for Life” with slightly adapted lyrics:

I’m happy with Harbottle
Right here in your dirty face
To wear the scars
To show from where I came

We don't talk about a loan sign
We only wanna get drunk

And we are not allowed to spend
As we are told that this is the end

A new sign for life
A new sign for life
A new sign for life
A new sign for life

Yes - I’ll get my coat - Bernie Taupin is not shaking in his boots 🤭

[Dmas]

So a fairly new defence then:

Marshall / Wollacot

Miller / Megwa (Cadden)
Fish / Rocky
Hanlon / Harbottle
Obita / Stevenson

Levitt / Jeggo / Delferrier
Newell / Henderson
JDH / Campbell

Boyle /
ALF / Melkerson / Doidge
Youan / Mackay

So I reckon we are light in attacking midfield (depth) and also short of a striker (assuming Doidge goes) and right winger (not convinced Melks can play RW).

I agree a wide player and a striker would suit me, totally agree with an attack minded midfield player but going by the rumoured 4 signings to come I’d go with those 2 and then maybe molitnikov/macallister could step into midfield if required

[danger1875]

Hopefully there's a song for him to the tune of "The Life Of Riley" for the new lad. Criminally under-rated band. I don't mind he seems to score goals, from the back of the defence line, because we live the life of Riley. I'll get ma coat

[Brightside]

Patrick Mcp seems to think otherwise going by his article earlier today.

He said the player was going on the states trip. It he’s been announced for the Lyon game.

[Last Minute]

Fish will be announced tomorrow (well today technically).


Thursday :wink::agree:

[hibee-boys]

So a fairly new defence then:

Marshall / Wollacot

Miller / Megwa (Cadden)
Fish / Rocky
Hanlon / Harbottle
Obita / Stevenson

Levitt / Jeggo / Delferrier
Newell / Henderson
JDH / Campbell

Boyle /
ALF / Melkerson / Doidge
Youan / Mackay

So I reckon we are light in attacking midfield (depth) and also short of a striker (assuming Doidge goes) and right winger (not convinced Melks can play RW).

Looking at that XI, along with subs, I’d say we’re relatively well set from a defensive position. However, who from the bench would you want to come on and have confidence that they could seriously expect to make an impact offensively. Our drop off between the quality of our first XI (when all fit) and back ups have been an issue for a long time. This also impacts on the players on the pitch as you’d want competition for places and, at this time, I just don’t say it anywhere other than goalkeeper/defence.

[Unseen work]

Looking at that XI, along with subs, I’d say we’re relatively well set from a defensive position. However, who from the bench would you want to come on and have confidence that they could seriously expect to make an impact offensively. Our drop off between the quality of our first XI (when all fit) and back ups have been an issue for a long time. This also impacts on the players on the pitch as you’d want competition for places and, at this time, I just don’t say it anywhere other than goalkeeper/defence.

I would actually have confidence Mackay would manage to create or score a goal.

Seems the type that always finds himself in good positions.

[Unseen work]

So a fairly new defence then:

Marshall / Wollacot

Miller / Megwa (Cadden)
Fish / Rocky
Hanlon / Harbottle
Obita / Stevenson

Levitt / Jeggo / Delferrier
Newell / Henderson
JDH / Campbell

Boyle /
ALF / Melkerson / Doidge
Youan / Mackay

So I reckon we are light in attacking midfield (depth) and also short of a striker (assuming Doidge goes) and right winger (not convinced Melks can play RW).

Got McKirdy too remember, although out until December

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Got McKirdy too remember, although out until December

Yup, added him in as a winger option.

[Edinburgh Green]

Fish will be announced tomorrow (well today technically).


Friday 👍


Thursday :wink::agree:

Any more advances?

[hibbie02]

I don't think Rocky was a bigger part of that poor run than anyone else, for what I remember it was more LJ sticking with the 532 formation that did not suit us and us really missing Nisbet as we were not taking the chances we had to score

We did take a couple of humpings but to focus the blame of those onto Rocky wouldn't be fair imho

I thought it was worth looking at the Rocky Thread on here before the big injury. He was caned for his early performances in his first season and took the criticism personally. I think he changed a lot of people's opinions at the start of last season and this thread shows it. Lot's of references to MOTM and excellent performances. He clearly has it in him and he clearly responds badly to slagging off. Maybe he deserves the chance to show what he is capable of without constant criticism.

Here's the thread: https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?359735-Rocky&highlight=Rocky

As with most threads it contains a Joe Newell debate, a major falling out, Yam trolls and statements people may regret.

[Sheffhibee]

He said the player was going on the states trip. It he’s been announced for the Lyon game.

Wonder if Jonny Evans signing a short term deal yesterday with them will free up Fish ?

"Evans has only signed a contract with United until the start of the new season, meaning he may only feature in friendly matches before being released.
However, there is a chance that United could choose to extend the 35-year-old's deal until June 2024"

[muzzando]

Wonder if Jonny Evans signing a short term deal yesterday with them will free up Fish ?

"Evans has only signed a contract with United until the start of the new season, meaning he may only feature in friendly matches before being released.
However, there is a chance that United could choose to extend the 35-year-old's deal until June 2024"

I think that's purely as cover for 2 games because the other centre half that played their first friendly next to Fish (Rhys Bennett) got injured. So they'll have signed Evans until the rest of their internationals are back

[.Sean.]

I think that's purely as cover for 2 games because the other centre half that played their first friendly next to Fish (Rhys Bennett) got injured. So they'll have signed Evans until the rest of their internationals are back
Bizarre. Why can’t they promote a young guy? They’re friendlies

[Donegal Hibby]

Nisbet was agreed in Jan


So a fairly new defence then:

Marshall / Wollacot

Miller / Megwa (Cadden)
Fish / Rocky
Hanlon / Harbottle
Obita / Stevenson

Levitt / Jeggo / Delferrier
Newell / Henderson
JDH / Campbell

Boyle / (McKirdy)
ALF / Melkerson / Doidge
Youan / Mackay

So I reckon we are light in attacking midfield (depth) and also short of a striker (assuming Doidge goes) and right winger (not convinced Melks can play RW).
Josh Campbell's the only attacking midfielder we have at the minute.We will probably try and move on Doidge and Henderson with a loan possible for Melkersen. Don't think RW suits Melkersen either and feel Cadden is more suited to RW than RB TBH. Good quality striker should be the priority now.

[mayo hibee]

I thought it was worth looking at the Rocky Thread on here before the big injury. He was caned for his early performances in his first season and took the criticism personally. I think he changed a lot of people's opinions at the start of last season and this thread shows it. Lot's of references to MOTM and excellent performances. He clearly has it in him and he clearly responds badly to slagging off. Maybe he deserves the chance to show what he is capable of without constant criticism.

Here's the thread: https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?359735-Rocky&highlight=Rocky

As with most threads it contains a Joe Newell debate, a major falling out, Yam trolls and statements people may regret.

I think an element of that was down to sympathy after his "why does nobody like me" comment. There was an overcorrection in people's views of him. It's looking like he's going to be fourth choice centre back in a team that plays two starting centre backs, which doesn't bode well. I think he'll be moved on by next summer at the latest, provided we can get someone to take him.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

I think that's purely as cover for 2 games because the other centre half that played their first friendly next to Fish (Rhys Bennett) got injured. So they'll have signed Evans until the rest of their internationals are back

I'm not so sure. United need a CB amongst other signings and FFP is restricting them. I wouldn't be surprised if Evans is their CB cover for the season.

Regardless, hopefully an announcement around 5pm tonight that we've caught fish

[Brightside]

Josh Campbell's the only attacking midfielder we have at the minute.Think we will try and move on Doidge and Henderson with a loan possible for Melkersen. Don't think RW suits Melkersen either. Do think Cadden is more suited to RW than RB TBH. Good quality striker should be the priority now.

Levitt / JDH / Newell are all capable of playing further up the pitch. I agree we should sell Henderson if possible and bring in another aggressive AM.

[1875Sean]

Josh Campbell's the only attacking midfielder we have at the minute.We will probably try and move on Doidge and Henderson with a loan possible for Melkersen. Don't think RW suits Melkersen either and feel Cadden is more suited to RW than RB TBH. Good quality striker should be the priority now.

Levitt ?

[Up-the-slope]

Paul Hanlon will be the first name on the team sheet if fit. He's so underrated by our support me included


:agree: hes seen off more managers than the Queen saw off Prime Ministers.... but it seems easy to overlook that for some :rolleyes:

[Brightside]

:agree: hes seen off more managers than the Queen saw off Prime Ministers.... but it seems easy to overlook that for some :rolleyes:

Best CB we’ve had in the modern day. Astounding how under rated he has been. Fans like players that clatter about and punt the ball 80 yards out to sea better. Nowt as queer as folk.

[Dmas]

I would actually have confidence Mackay would manage to create or score a goal.

Seems the type that always finds himself in good positions.

I hope Mackay is given a go this year, I do share the poster you’re replying top’s worry about the bench there isn’t a lot of players in the squad that give you faith they can change a game if needed, fully fit first 11 I think we’re strong once injuries and suspensions start I’m not so sure we have the squad to cope especially midfield and up front

[Brightside]

Harbottle played as the centre of a 3 most of last season. Wonder if we might see a change. Hanlon Harbottle Fish. This would allow a bit more freedom in midfield and not having to have that static DM cover

[Up-the-slope]

Riley Harbottle?

Is he an anagram?


:agree:... = hotter reliably.......which is stupendous

[Donegal Hibby]

I think an element of that was down to sympathy after his "why does nobody like me" comment. There was an overcorrection in people's views of him. It's looking like he's going to be fourth choice centre back in a team that plays two starting centre backs, which doesn't bode well. I think he'll be moved on by next summer at the latest, provided we can get someone to take him.
There was also a element that Rocky's performances were improving week on week before his injury too . I'm not so sure Rocky will be fourth choice either tbh . Harbottle might turn out to be a good signing though he's only ever played in the Vanarama and league 2 which both are absolutely miles behind in quality of Scottish premier. It also took Fish awhile to settle in to our League. Like Rocky and hope we keep him especially the way he's been improving since joining us tbh .

[Paul1642]

Harbottle played as the centre of a 3 most of last season. Wonder if we might see a change. Hanlon Harbottle Fish. This would allow a bit more freedom in midfield and not having to have that static DM cover

Harbottle and Fish added to those we already have certainly gives us plenty of depth at CB and more tactical options for LJ.

[Unseen work]

I hope Mackay is given a go this year, I do share the poster you’re replying top’s worry about the bench there isn’t a lot of players in the squad that give you faith they can change a game if needed, fully fit first 11 I think we’re strong once injuries and suspensions start I’m not so sure we have the squad to cope especially midfield and up front

Yeah I’m the same mate, bit more creativity and quality needed

[badabing67]

There was also a element that Rocky's performances were improving week on week before his injury too . I'm not so sure Rocky will be fourth choice either tbh . Harbottle might turn out to be a good signing though he's only ever played in the Vanarama and league 2 which both are absolutely miles behind in quality of Scottish premier. It also took Fish awhile to settle in to our League. Like Rocky and hope we keep him especially the way he's been improving since joining us tbh .

Also think Rocky could play as a DM

[flash]

Also think Rocky could play as a DM

Shirley not.

[Since452]

We have a real opportunity for 3rd this season if we get a couple of key positions sorted (Will Fish and a striker). Aberdeen I think will struggle with the midweek/weekend schedule and I think Robson will be found out. Hearts don't worry me at all to be honest. Not until they make some decent signings, or any signing. We finished the season far stronger than them.

[WeeRussell]

:agree:... = hotter reliably.......which is stupendous

If he’s reliably hotter than our already fairly reliable and mildly hot defence then we’re laughing.

[.Sean.]

Also think Rocky could play as a DM
😂

[badabing67]

I hope Mackay is given a go this year, I do share the poster you’re replying top’s worry about the bench there isn’t a lot of players in the squad that give you faith they can change a game if needed, fully fit first 11 I think we’re strong once injuries and suspensions start I’m not so sure we have the squad to cope especially midfield and up front


I would actually have confidence Mackay would manage to create or score a goal.

Seems the type that always finds himself in good positions.

Joe Newell said as much in the commentary during the Bournemouth game just before he stuck the ball in the net, and that was a fantastic strike, gutted it got chopped off... Very Nisbetesque I thought.

[Hibees1973]

Also think Rocky could play as a DM

Jeezo, how many bookings would he pick up playing there.

[Edinburgh Green]

Also think Rocky could play as a DM

:eek: that's a wild shout

[NAE NOOKIE]

I think an element of that was down to sympathy after his "why does nobody like me" comment. There was an overcorrection in people's views of him. It's looking like he's going to be fourth choice centre back in a team that plays two starting centre backs, which doesn't bode well. I think he'll be moved on by next summer at the latest, provided we can get someone to take him.

I wouldn't agree. I think because Fish was such a success it didn't take a lot of folk long to forget how much Rocky was improving prior to getting injured. His reading of the game was better, his ability to win it in the air was better, as was his composure on the ball. He was also getting quite enthusiastic about bringing the ball out of defence and taking it up the park, something we all like in a CB.

In our two friendlies in Spain the standout moment for me was Megwa more than once getting burned by that guy Bournemouth had on the left wing ( not a criticism of Megwa, the guy was very good ) and at least twice Rocky racing across to intercept and winning the ball off him ... both times Rocky had seen Megwa was going to be turned and reacted brilliantly to the situation.

I think it would be daft for anybody to write him off at this point and I remain to be convinced that with a bit of practice he wouldn't make a pretty good defensive midfield player ... he has the pace, the physicality and has improved quite a bit on the ball, though I do seem to recall that in his first comeback game he gave away possession in a terrible area with a shocking cross field ball ... but it was his first game back FFS.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Also think Rocky could play as a DM

Jeez, that would be a massive no from me.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think an element of that was down to sympathy after his "why does nobody like me" comment. There was an overcorrection in people's views of him. It's looking like he's going to be fourth choice centre back in a team that plays two starting centre backs, which doesn't bode well. I think he'll be moved on by next summer at the latest, provided we can get someone to take him.

:agree:

A lot of the praise was way over the top imo. Shouts of him being our best player when he was playing, best defender etc.

If we get Fish I reckon he’ll be 4th choice centre back. I’m quite comfortable with him in that place in the pecking order, not so comfortable with him being 3rd.

[WeeRussell]

:agree:

A lot of the praise was way over the top imo. Shouts of him being our best player when he was playing, best defender etc.

If we get Fish I reckon he’ll be 4th choice centre back. I’m quite comfortable with him in that place in the pecking order, not so comfortable with him being 3rd.

In a number of games he was our best player, and our best defender in more.

Remains to be seen how involved he is this season but he looked a good player (I thought the early criticism was always way over the top in any case) and I’m happy he’s still here.

[JeMeSouviens]

Also think Rocky could play as a DM

Think we can boot that idea into touch.

[Nicho87]

I do think Rocky could be utilised as a slightly different Scott Allan type just better.

[Springbank]

I do think Rocky could be utilised as a slightly different Scott Allan type just better.

I like Rocky, he's the sort who is (imo) a centre back and that's that

Apologies if I'm getting too old to spot a post that was intended as ironic (if you were going for irony you beat me all ends up)

[Smartie]

Also think Rocky could play as a DM

He could, but there would be consequences.

[SHODAN]

Also think Rocky could play as a DM

That's kinda genius.

[Brightside]

Also think Rocky could play as a DM

He struggles with the skill of being a CB. There is no way he can play DM. Just like Porto couldn’t play it either.

[GreenGray]

Have we steered away from signing players from abroad then?

Yes it was a bit of a disaster last season but Aberdeen have shown that there is good players and value to be found if you look properly.

Whilst I understand why we may have been put off slightly I hope we haven’t stopped it all together.

[King conrad]

I do think Rocky could be utilised as a slightly different Scott Allan type just better.

Rocky as a Scott Allan type?? Surely that's a wind up.

[PHeffernan]

:agree:

A lot of the praise was way over the top imo. Shouts of him being our best player when he was playing, best defender etc.

If we get Fish I reckon he’ll be 4th choice centre back. I’m quite comfortable with him in that place in the pecking order, not so comfortable with him being 3rd.

I reckon Rocky will be the Fish back up and Harbottle the Hanlon back up.
Harbottle from what I read isn't the finished article, so I reckon he is behind Rocky.
The real point of interest is that they are fighting each other to be the Fish replacement when he inevitably leaves.

[CentreForward]

Have we steered away from signing players from abroad then?

Yes it was a bit of a disaster last season but Aberdeen have shown that there is good players and value to be found if you look properly.

Whilst I understand why we may have been put off slightly I hope we haven’t stopped it all together.


Just wait until that Namibian striker is unveiled!

[ElginHibbie]

I reckon Rocky will be the Fish back up and Harbottle the Hanlon back up.
Harbottle from what I read isn't the finished article, so I reckon he is behind Rocky.
The real point of interest is that they are fighting each other to be the Fish replacement when he inevitably leaves.

:agree:

My worry with Fish is we are gonna have another Harry Clarke situation and Man Utd can and will recall him in January, so Rocky and Harbottle being in competition to develop could be good for us sooner than we'd like

[brog]

Jeezo, how many bookings would he pick up playing there.

Probably less than Jeggo!

[Wheat Hound]

LJ interview now on sky sports' twitter. Bit cagey re Fish but in essence we are waiting for Man Utd to confirm when he can be released. Got to say it didn't sound like it was imminent 😐

[Callum_62]

LJ interview now on sky sports' twitter. Bit cagey re Fish but in essence we are waiting for Man Utd to confirm when he can be released. Got to say it didn't sound like it was imminent [emoji52]His interview the other day suggested nothing else was imminent either and we made a signing out the blue

Hopefully similar

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[CapitalGreen]

We had the worst defence in the league when Hanlon and Rocky were partnered together last season, I’m not sure why anyone would be keen to see a return to that.

[Allant1981]

We had the worst defence in the league when Hanlon and Rocky were partnered together last season, I’m not sure why anyone would be keen to see a return to that.

Exactly, get hanlon dropped!

[Brightside]

Exactly, get hanlon dropped!

Reported.

[Allant1981]

Reported.

😁😁😁

[O'Rourke3]

We had the worst defence in the league when Hanlon and Rocky were partnered together last season, I’m not sure why anyone would be keen to see a return to that.What about the other nine? All blameless?

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[WeeRussell]

What about the other nine? All blameless?

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Yep. Don’t you know, even when Rocky plays really well it’s his fault as other players don’t look comfortable playing with him…

[MWHIBBIES]

There is more, much more, to playing defensive midfield than being big and strong. If Ambrose, who is 10x the footballer Rocky is, struggled, then why would rocky do any better? Would be horrendous.

[Donegal Hibby]

Also think Rocky could play as a DM
I suppose if an attacking midfielder can play in a RB position and a CB in midfield then it's possible he could play there . I think Rocky is a good player who's improving all the time and is getting a raw deal from certain fans blaming him for some of last season's bad results just like the defeat at home to Ross county were our defence was Porto , Rocky and Hanlon .

[Paulie Walnuts]

What about the other nine? All blameless?

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The other 9 largely played when Rocky wasn’t playing and we never conceded nearly as many.

If the argument is that there can be no correlation between a player being in or out the team and results then just about every stat in football is useless as there’s always other variables at play.

Whilst not necessarily painting the entire picture, the stats certainly paint a good chunk of it.

[WeeRussell]

The other 9 largely played when Rocky wasn’t playing and we never conceded nearly as many.

If the argument is that there can be no correlation between a player being in or out the team and results then just about every stat in football is useless as there’s always other variables at play.

Whilst not necessarily painting the entire picture, the stats certainly paint a good chunk of it.

What about the positive stats when he was in the team.. what do they paint?

[Paulie Walnuts]

What about the positive stats when he was in the team.. what do they paint?

Such as?

[ElginHibbie]

The other 9 largely played when Rocky wasn’t playing and we never conceded nearly as many.

If the argument is that there can be no correlation between a player being in or out the team and results then just about every stat in football is useless as there’s always other variables at play.

Whilst not necessarily painting the entire picture, the stats certainly paint a good chunk of it.

Porteous as much to blame as Rocky then surely? Played in as many games we conceded a lot in I’d think

[yonder1875]

Any more advances?

Nothing here, guess we’ll just wait and see. Don’t often post things on here but no reason to doubt the info I was told. Let’s hope it’s official today.

[flash]

Think we can accept that some players divide opinions, its the nature of fitba.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Porteous as much to blame as Rocky then surely? Played in as many games we conceded a lot in I’d think

Won’t find any disagreement from me there. Porteous was generally average to poor for his last 18 months here imo other than a few games after his Scotland debut.

[WeeRussell]

Such as?

I dunno - Could maybe start with the games where he played and we kept clean sheets? They would surely be positive for him going by your stats?

I’m not one for getting hung-up on these sort of stats, but you can’t proclaim they pretty much equate to being his fault when we concede goals with him in the team, and then ignore the opposite!

[Brightside]

It just needs eyes not stats to see that Rocky is our least talented CB. Not to say he can’t improve but the “improve” seems to have been over stated by some. He’s gone from being unable to ride a bike to stabilisers. If he’s starting for us we haven’t progressed.

[Garymcl]

Sky sports news live at east mains coming up now

[Smartie]

Think we can accept that some players divide opinions, its the nature of fitba.

Rocky more than most, it seems.

I find the hyperbole regarding him to be bizarre - he's a decent player, with his strengths and weaknesses and the potential to improve with time and experience.

There seems to be an awful lot of strong language in relation to him both positive and negative and I find it quite weird tbh. He's not remotely offensive or unpleasant and I don't really get why folk seem to get so wound up by him.

[Donegal Hibby]

Porteous as much to blame as Rocky then surely? Played in as many games we conceded a lot in I’d think
Rocky was playing nowhere near as bad as Porto was in his last few months . Porto's falling over and shouting at his teammates was quite bizarre at times .

[Brightside]

Rocky more than most, it seems.

I find the hyperbole regarding him to be bizarre - he's a decent player, with his strengths and weaknesses and the potential to improve with time and experience.

There seems to be an awful lot of strong language in relation to him both positive and negative and I find it quite weird tbh. He's not remotely offensive or unpleasant and I don't really get why folk seem to get so wound up by him.
I’ve not seen anyone wound up my him or using strong language. And I hope people don’t stop debating under fear of people thinking he’s been picked on.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I dunno - Could maybe start with the games where he played and we kept clean sheets? They would surely be positive for him going by your stats?

I’m not one for getting hung-up on these sort of stats, but you can’t proclaim they pretty much equate to being his fault when we concede goals with him in the team, and then ignore the opposite!

There was only 3 clean sheets in 15 games.

Nobody is claiming he had nothing but bad games. Overall though he wasn’t great imo and we were a poorer team with him in it.

Funnily enough he missed 6 games in a row in August/September/October where we kept 3 clean sheets in 6 and conceded 3 goals in those 6 games. He came back into the team and we lost 15 goals in the next 6.

In the six before he got his big injury we conceded 14 (none of them are part of the previous run of 6 mentioned). Once he was out the team we conceded 6 in the next 6.

In those runs of 6 without him in the team we picked up 12 points and 13 points respectively, so over 2 a game. With him in the team in his 15 games we picked up 1 point per game and never managed to string 2 wins together.

Over the course of the season we picked up 1.6 PPG with Rocky out the team compared to 1 PPG with him in it. We conceded 31 goals in 15 games when he played as well. If that carried on over a full season we’d have the worst defensive record since the Scottish Premiership began. Without him in the team we conceded 28 in 23. Over the course of a full season last season that would have gave us the best defence outside the Old Firm by a distance.

For comparison Paul Hanlon was 1.38ppg, Porteous was 1.29ppg and Fish was 1.52ppg. The average goals conceded by the team individually for each of them is also miles below what it was for Rocky.

There’ll obviously be variables so he’s not exclusively at fault but it’s a repeated pattern with a huge swing that when he’s out the team we improve significantly in near enough every relevant measure. That much can’t be ignored, much like it couldn’t be ignored with Marshall when folk were trying to defend him and his awful stats.

[.Sean.]

Sky sports news live at east mains coming up now
Decent interviews with Levitt and Le Fondre

[ElginHibbie]

Rocky more than most, it seems.

I find the hyperbole regarding him to be bizarre - he's a decent player, with his strengths and weaknesses and the potential to improve with time and experience.

There seems to be an awful lot of strong language in relation to him both positive and negative and I find it quite weird tbh. He's not remotely offensive or unpleasant and I don't really get why folk seem to get so wound up by him.

Are there that many positive comments about him that are over the top though?

Mainly seems to be people saying he was improving. Don’t think anyone would be happy if he was first choice, we’ll get by with him for first round of Europe but after that if we don’t have Fish back or another CB to partner Hanlon I’d be worried

[Paulie Walnuts]

Are there that many positive comments about him that are over the top though?

Mainly seems to be people saying he was improving. Don’t think anyone would be happy if he was first choice, we’ll get by with him for first round of Europe but after that if we don’t have Fish back or another CB to partner Hanlon I’d be worried

There’s shouts that he was our ‘best player in quite a few games and our best defender in even more’. There’s been other similar posts when the topic of Rocky comes up before.

Considering he only played 15 league games and our record was dreadful both as a team and more specifically defensively, I’d say that’s over the top.

[GreenGray]

Rocky was playing nowhere near as bad as Porto was in his last few months . Porto's falling over and shouting at his teammates was quite bizarre at times .

What games are you referring to when you say this?


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[KWJ]

For that spell post world cup up to the 6-0 the whole team just wasn't on it. Porteous was superman after the Ukraine match but then fell apart with the team and with all the noise around him, his departure seemed to help. Hanlon looked like he could be done during this spell too but bounced back and had a great 2nd half of the season alongside Fish.

Hopefully we can avoid those bleak runs this season.

[matty_f]

In a number of games he was our best player, and our best defender in more.

Remains to be seen how involved he is this season but he looked a good player (I thought the early criticism was always way over the top in any case) and I’m happy he’s still here.

Agree, it's complete revisionism to say otherwise, imho.

[Donegal Hibby]

What games are you referring to when you say this?


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Just generally in his last few months I thought his performance's were really poor . There were times in games were he was going down to easily looking for fouls and shouting at teammates . I think he's an absolutely outstanding player though felt his performances and to a degree his attitude fell well sort of the high standards I expected from him TBH. We were imo no worse of when he left and Fish came in and probably even more solid at the back with Fish Imo .

Skysports interview with our new defender . Apologies if already posted.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12923458/riley-harbottle-id-be-stupid-not-to-jump-at-the-chance-to-join-hibs

[LeithMike]

It just needs eyes not stats to see that Rocky is our least talented CB.

That’s nonsense. You also need your eyes connected to a brain or “vision”. Nobody has said Rocky is the finished article and he does have some flaws in his game that he needs to improve. But, he’s doing that. He’s unbelievably strong and really quick. Two massive attributes for a defender.

I wasn’t a fan at the start and mocked Hibs for the error in signing him but I’ve seen enough over the course of last season to see beyond the obvious and that with the right coaching he could become a seriously good centre half with a ceiling far higher than any of our other centre halves.

He needs a good coach and some patience though. Martin O’Neill was hugely adept at picking up little known players with attributes like Rocky and moulding them into very good centre halves at both Leicester and Celtic. Under him Rocky would go far.

All said knowing that I could be wrong but this blanket rubbish using stats and eyes is rubbish.


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[GreenGray]

Just generally in his last few months I thought his performance's were really poor . There were times in games were he was going down to easily looking for fouls and shouting at teammates . I think he's an absolutely outstanding player though felt his performances and to a degree his attitude fell well sort of the high standards I expected from him TBH. We were imo no worse of when he left and Fish came in and probably even more solid at the back with Fish Imo .

Skysports interview with our new defender . Apologies if already posted.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12923458/riley-harbottle-id-be-stupid-not-to-jump-at-the-chance-to-join-hibs

Sorry, I meant what games did Rocky play better.

Agreed that we looked better when Fish came in.


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[cameronw-hfc]

He said the player was going on the states trip. It he’s been announced for the Lyon game.

Yeah if he's going on their US trip there's no way we announce him, then allow him to go away with his parent club on a pre-season tour.

If he's actually going on the trip, he will be announced after I imagine. Unless Patrick has his info wrong which he very rarely ever does, I can't see Fish being announced before the first Euro tie

[lucky]

Usual .net nonsense taking place, Hibs get linked or sign a CH it becomes open season on our existing players. When we signed Levitt it was Newell that was the target and before him it was Marshall when we signed a keeper. Can we not sign players to strengthen the squad and get them to compete against each other for a place in the starting 11?

[Rumble de Thump]

If you base an opinion on a stat then you're being ignorant of absolutely everything else. If I worked for a tabloid newspaper then one or more of those words would be in capitals.

[SHODAN]

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

[Paulie Walnuts]

If you base an opinion on a stat then you're being ignorant of absolutely everything else. If I worked for a tabloid newspaper then one or more of those words would be in capitals.

What about numerous stats and also what we watch with our own eyes?

[Brightside]

Usual .net nonsense taking place, Hibs get linked or sign a CH it becomes open season on our existing players. When we signed Levitt it was Newell that was the target and before him it was Marshall when we signed a keeper. Can we not sign players to strengthen the squad and get them to compete against each other for a place in the starting 11?

Rocky is a perfectly fine squad player.

[Ronniekirk]

What about the positive stats when he was in the team.. what do they paint?

People just Gloss over them

[badabing67]

Off topic can you still redeem the free ticket for the game on Friday for ST

[King Cosell]

Fish on for the 2nd half.

[Allant1981]

Off topic can you still redeem the free ticket for the game on Friday for ST

Probably doesn't help but I just done mine last night

[badabing67]

Probably doesn't help but I just done mine last night

Cheers :aok:

[Donegal Hibby]

Fish on for the 2nd half.
LJ interview on skysports. Asked about Will Fish at near the end .
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12923562/will-fish-hibernian-manager-lee-johnson-confident-manchester-united-defender-will-return

[King Cosell]

LJ interview on skysports. Asked about Will Fish at near the end .
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12923562/will-fish-hibernian-manager-lee-johnson-confident-manchester-united-defender-will-return

Sounds positive, could happen tonight.

[Tambo]

Welcome to the club Riley-Jay, seems to have had good reviews from last season.

Good interview, give your all for the club is all we ask for. Looks to have played a few more games than McClelland.

Fish
Another midfielder
Striker

We should be good until January, would love to add another wide player but so far it seems like Melkersen and Mackay for back up.

If somehow Egan-Riley can get fit come the end of the window, I would be happy with him also.

[blackpoolhibs]

People just Gloss over them

That's not what Matt Done.

[BSEJVT]

Tbh of all our recruitment woes of the past few seasons the 2 that disappoint me most are Tait & Mackay

They should have been the easiest to get right as we had ample opportunity to scout them

I still hope Mackay might contribute but Tait will go without ever touching the first team

[Donegal Hibby]

Sounds positive, could happen tonight.
Yeah , I thought it sounded positive as well . Hopefully it happens soon . 🤞

[jacomo]

Usual .net nonsense taking place, Hibs get linked or sign a CH it becomes open season on our existing players. When we signed Levitt it was Newell that was the target and before him it was Marshall when we signed a keeper. Can we not sign players to strengthen the squad and get them to compete against each other for a place in the starting 11?


:agree:

[WeeRussell]

There’s shouts that he was our ‘best player in quite a few games and our best defender in even more’. There’s been other similar posts when the topic of Rocky comes up before.

Considering he only played 15 league games and our record was dreadful both as a team and more specifically defensively, I’d say that’s over the top.

It’s not over the top if, during some of those 15 league games, he was our best player. I don’t think anyone would claim he was unreal in every game he played, just that the credit he was receiving then was deserved and doesn’t just disappear.

Similarly Porteous (who I agree got frustrating at times towards the end) wasn’t suddenly poor or mediocre for 18 months. That’s the sort of thing that is OTT in my opinion… as he was in fact only probably challenged by Nisbet as our best player during that time.

[SHODAN]

First team squad as things stand:

GK: Marshall, Wollacott, Boruc

RB: Miller, Cadden (inj), Delferriere
CB: Hanlon, Harbottle, Bushiri
LB: Stevenson, MacIntyre

DM: Jeggo
CM: Levitt, Newell, Doyle-Hayes
AM: Campbell, Henderson

RW: Boyle, MacKay
ST: Le Fondre, McKirdy (inj), Melkersen, Doidge
LW: Youan, Obita, Tavares

Another CB (Fish), the big name striker and a midfielder to come in, with Doidge, Henderson and Tavares out and that'll be us I would imagine.

[Col2]

First team squad as things stand:

GK: Marshall, Wollacott, Boruc

RB: Miller, Cadden (inj), Delferriere
CB: Hanlon, Harbottle, Bushiri
LB: Stevenson, MacIntyre

DM: Jeggo
CM: Levitt, Newell, Doyle-Hayes
AM: Campbell, Henderson

RW: Boyle, MacKay
ST: Le Fondre, McKirdy (inj), Melkersen, Doidge
LW: Youan, Obita, Tavares

Another CB (Fish), the big name striker and a midfielder to come in, with Doidge, Henderson and Tavares out and that'll be us I would imagine.

I think McIntyre will go out of loan and I assume Obita can be considered a LB.

I agree with the 3 positions you mention but we might need two strikers is Doidge goes and still not clear on Melkerson future. Most difficult position to fill.

[WeeRussell]

It just needs eyes not stats to see that Rocky is our least talented CB. Not to say he can’t improve but the “improve” seems to have been over stated by some. He’s gone from being unable to ride a bike to stabilisers. If he’s starting for us we haven’t progressed.

All opinions as you say and everyone entitled to them, but I find it strange you just need eyes to pretty much write-off Rocky as a hibs player but the same eyes tell you Kenneh is going to the top of the game? And it’s not doubling down on early opinions at all?!

We’ve seen far more good from Rocky’s performances in Scotland than we have Kenneh as it stands, surely?

[04Sauzee]

Without seeing the game and just trawling Twitter, will finish is getting spoken about positively.

[WeeRussell]

Without seeing the game and just trawling Twitter, will finish is getting spoken about positively.

No sure if this is good or bad news 😂

[BILLYHIBS]

Rocky will be just fine

A blind man running for a bus could see he had improved beyond recognition last season

He is progressive and as LJ - who rates him at 10m - says more importantly he listens and takes everything in

Don’t just take my word for it Sofa Score the independent statistician gave Rocky higher marks than Porto in League games last season in matches against St Mirren Rangers St Johnstone Aberdeen and Dundee United

I stood beside him when he won MoM versus St Johnstone and I will tell you something I wouldn’t mess with him

He will definitely make a contribution for us next season and I like his attitude

[04Sauzee]

No sure if this is good or bad news 😂

Either do I 😅 if he comes in he's got game time and flying. If he doesn't come in it's because he's flying 🤣

[blackpoolhibs]

4 centre halves from Fish Hanlon Halfbottle and Rocky Should be good enough for us this season, in fact it only has to be good enough to January when the next window opens.

Hope Fish comes in this week, then we can consentrate on a forward and another midfielder and we will probably be done.

[lyonhibs]

Usual .net nonsense taking place, Hibs get linked or sign a CH it becomes open season on our existing players. When we signed Levitt it was Newell that was the target and before him it was Marshall when we signed a keeper. Can we not sign players to strengthen the squad and get them to compete against each other for a place in the starting 11?

You'd think we were in the 50's where subs weren't allowed sometimes. It's a squad game, you can never have too many decent players within reason

[leith lynx]

People just Gloss over them

Don't make the pun-haters bristle...

[WeeRussell]

4 centre halves from Fish Hanlon Halfbottle and Rocky Should be good enough for us this season, in fact it only has to be good enough to January when the next window opens.

Hope Fish comes in this week, then we can consentrate on a forward and another midfielder and we will probably be done.

Like it 👍

[FifeHibs]

Rocky will be just fine

A blind man running for a bus could see he had improved beyond recognition last season

He is progressive and as LJ - who rates him at 10m - says more importantly he listens and takes everything in


Don’t just take my word for it Sofa Score the independent statistician gave Rocky higher marks than Porto in League games last season in matches against St Mirren Rangers St Johnstone Aberdeen and Dundee United

I stood beside him when he won MoM versus St Johnstone and I will tell you something I wouldn’t mess with him

He will definitely make a contribution for us next season and I like his attitude

LJ does not rate Rocky at 10m

[BILLYHIBS]

LJ does not rate Rocky at 10m

Eat my shorts

https://youtu.be/EfO3Yo36BS0

[Since452]

Porteous as much to blame as Rocky then surely? Played in as many games we conceded a lot in I’d think

The problem was Porteous not Rocky. He was becoming a liability.

[007]

Eat my shorts

https://youtu.be/EfO3Yo36BS0

The £10m figure was obviously a joke. Eat your own 🩳. 😃

I do like Rocky and agree with the sentiment of your post.

[BILLYHIBS]

The £10m figure was obviously a joke. Eat your own 🩳. 😃

I do like Rocky and agree with the sentiment of your post.

Obviously

[FifeHibs]

Obviously

If you know it was a pass away comment why are you continually referring to it?

[BILLYHIBS]

If you know it was a pass away comment why are you continually referring to it?

The clue is in the title of the video

[Hibees1973]

See Mahrez off to Saudi for £30m. Joining the list of players there already and about to go soon.

This epitomises all that's wrong in football these days and sadly I can only see it getting worse. Football in Saudi and these fees are inflating transfer prices even more and is disgusting.

Proper regulation by FIFA/UEFA to put limits on squad sizes, transfer fees and salaries is desperately needed.

Not sure how this can be done and if the big clubs would happily participate, but the game is out of control.

[KeithTheHibby]

See Mahrez off to Saudi for £30m. Joining the list of players there already and about to go soon.

This epitomises all that's wrong in football these days and sadly I can only see it getting worse. Football in Saudi and these fees are inflating transfer prices even more and is disgusting.

Proper regulation by FIFA/UEFA to put limits on squad sizes, transfer fees and salaries is desperately needed.

Not sure how this can be done and if the big clubs would happily participate, but the game is out of control.

Good to see the EPL getting a taste of their own medicine.

[MWHIBBIES]

See Mahrez off to Saudi for £30m. Joining the list of players there already and about to go soon.

This epitomises all that's wrong in football these days and sadly I can only see it getting worse. Football in Saudi and these fees are inflating transfer prices even more and is disgusting.

Proper regulation by FIFA/UEFA to put limits on squad sizes, transfer fees and salaries is desperately needed.

Not sure how this can be done and if the big clubs would happily participate, but the game is out of control.

Mahrez is actually a real bargain at 30 million. Great player

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Rocky as a Scott Allan type?? Surely that's a wind up.

I'm suitably confused too.

[Brightside]

First team squad as things stand:

GK: Marshall, Wollacott, Boruc

RB: Miller, Cadden (inj), Delferriere
CB: Hanlon, Harbottle, Bushiri
LB: Stevenson, MacIntyre

DM: Jeggo
CM: Levitt, Newell, Doyle-Hayes
AM: Campbell, Henderson

RW: Boyle, MacKay
ST: Le Fondre, McKirdy (inj), Melkersen, Doidge
LW: Youan, Obita, Tavares

Another CB (Fish), the big name striker and a midfielder to come in, with Doidge, Henderson and Tavares out and that'll be us I would imagine.

Does Delf every play RB? Thought he was a CM. Megwa should be a squad RB

[Key West]

Rocky will be just fine

A blind man running for a bus could see he had improved beyond recognition last season

He is progressive and as LJ - who rates him at 10m - says more importantly he listens and takes everything in

Don’t just take my word for it Sofa Score the independent statistician gave Rocky higher marks than Porto in League games last season in matches against St Mirren Rangers St Johnstone Aberdeen and Dundee United

I stood beside him when he won MoM versus St Johnstone and I will tell you something I wouldn’t mess with him

He will definitely make a contribution for us next season and I like his attitude

Are you related to Rocky?

[Donegal Hibby]

Eat my shorts

https://youtu.be/EfO3Yo36BS0

That made me laugh . Thanks mate👍 .
On a serious note anyone wanting to sell Campbell for a measly £1 million can Eat my shorts . I've just put a 2 million plus valuation on him after this :na na:. 😂.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/scottish-football/12923680/scottish-premiership-hibernians-josh-campbell-takes-on-our-crossbar-challenge

[BILLYHIBS]

That made me laugh mate . Thanks mate👍 .
On a serious note anyone wanting to sell Campbell for a measly £1 million can Eat my shorts . I've just put a 2 million plus valuation on him after this :na na:. 😂.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/scottish-football/12923680/scottish-premiership-hibernians-josh-campbell-takes-on-our-crossbar-challenge

No bother mate

Exhausted trying to defend Rocky over on the PB

[BILLYHIBS]

Are you related to Rocky?

No mate but starting to like the guy

[supermcginn]

See Mahrez off to Saudi for £30m. Joining the list of players there already and about to go soon.

This epitomises all that's wrong in football these days and sadly I can only see it getting worse. Football in Saudi and these fees are inflating transfer prices even more and is disgusting.

Proper regulation by FIFA/UEFA to put limits on squad sizes, transfer fees and salaries is desperately needed.

Not sure how this can be done and if the big clubs would happily participate, but the game is out of control.
That's a bargain for him, tremendous player.

[Paul1642]

Mahrez is actually a real bargain at 30 million. Great player

Mahrez not included because he’s a bargain at 30 million but most of the transfers to Saudi have been massively over their true value and much more than what any European team would realistically offer.

It’s destroying what little financial fair play was left in the game and like the MLS and Chinese league it just doesn’t matter who these clubs sign because no one is going to watch it.

[Paul1642]

That's a bargain for him, tremendous player.

A bargain ability wise however at 32 1/2 it’s not a bad amount of money for Man City to be taking when they can spend that with a little bit extra on a top young player.

[Paul1642]

And another to Saudi. 12 Million for Jordan Henderson.

[EGL2000]

Good to see the EPL getting a taste of their own medicine.

Yup, hilarious to see English fans chucking all their toys out the pram when they have been doing this for years.

[Billy Whizz]

Do Saudi clubs not operate under the sales Financial Fair rules as European clubs?

[Lago]

Mahrez not included because he’s a bargain at 30 million but most of the transfers to Saudi have been massively over their true value and much more than what any European team would realistically offer.

It’s destroying what little financial fair play was left in the game and like the MLS and Chinese league it just doesn’t matter who these clubs sign because no one is going to watch it.
Agree completely and I think any of them that have any playing years left in the will run back to European football as soon as their contracts are finished or like Boyle sooner.

[Since452]

Yup, hilarious to see English fans chucking all their toys out the pram when they have been doing this for years.

It's fantastic to see. Hope they all end up over there.

[Lago]

It's fantastic to see. Hope they all end up over there.
Not going to happen, just look at the ages of 90% of the players, it's a last, Big, pay day for most of them.

[Donegal Hibby]

No bother mate

Exhausted trying to defend Rocky over on the PB

I think Rocky has a lot going for him in he's a big strong defender who isn't afraid to get stuck in and will give you 100% He's only 23 and has really improved from when he first signed for us and there's no reason why he won't continue to improve further under the guidance of the manager and staff at Hibs . He seems to be a likeable character with a good attitude to his football according to the manager. If it wasn't Rocky that was getting it , it would be someone else mate . Folk just like to moan 😂

[MWHIBBIES]

Yup, hilarious to see English fans chucking all their toys out the pram when they have been doing this for years.

What English fans have done this? 99% of the transfers have massively helped the selling clubs. They've sold aging players for silly money.

[McD]

What English fans have done this? 99% of the transfers have massively helped the selling clubs. They've sold aging players for silly money.


chelsea in particular have been done a massive favour, they were looking down the barrel of serious FFP problems, the Saudi’s have given them a lot of money for players they wanted shot of anyway

[BILLYHIBS]

I think Rocky has a lot going for him in he's a big strong defender who isn't afraid to get stuck in and will give you 100% He's only 23 and has really improved from when he first signed for us and there's no reason why he won't continue to improve further under the guidance of the manager and staff at Hibs . He seems to be a likeable character with a good attitude to his football according to the manager. If it wasn't Rocky that was getting it , it would be someone else mate . Folk just like to moan 😂

Yeah he is very quick as well and his passing had improved

Going to be tough for him with all the new recruits but it is a long season and we will need our full squad

Hopefully he can continue to develop in an upward trajectory

[nonshinyfinish]

Do Saudi clubs not operate under the sales Financial Fair rules as European clubs?FFP is a UEFA thing, so unless they end up playing in European competitions, no.

[Craig_HFC]

Will Fish not named in Man Utd’s squad for their trip to the USA…

https://twitter.com/manutd/status/1681729586910904334?s=46&t=ki0plhI3ZN1PnVus1xnXtQ

[Paulie Walnuts]

Why did Jonny Evans need to sign for pre season? :confused:

[inglisavhibs]

Won’t find any disagreement from me there. Porteous was generally average to poor for his last 18 months here imo other than a few games after his Scotland debut.
Absolute nonsense.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Absolute nonsense.

A lot of poor form this season and 21/22 saw us have 9 matches negatively impacted by his stupidity with constant red cards. There’s not a chance in hell anyone can claim 21/22 was a good season for him and plenty folk were criticising his performances this season as well.

[BlackSheep]

Yes!!!! Fish not in the Man United US Tour squad!!!

https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/man-utd-announce-travelling-squad-for-tour-2023-in-the-united-states

[JohnM1875]

Will Fish not named in Man Utd’s squad for their trip to the USA…

https://twitter.com/manutd/status/1681729586910904334?s=46&t=ki0plhI3ZN1PnVus1xnXtQ

Thank ****! Was honestly starting to think we wouldn't get him back on loan.

[Rumble de Thump]

A lot of poor form this season and 21/22 saw us have 9 matches negatively impacted by his stupidity with constant red cards. There’s not a chance in hell anyone can claim 21/22 was a good season for him and plenty folk were criticising his performances this season as well.

The red cards were generally the fault of the match officials.

[Since90+2]

A lot of poor form this season and 21/22 saw us have 9 matches negatively impacted by his stupidity with constant red cards. There’s not a chance in hell anyone can claim 21/22 was a good season for him and plenty folk were criticising his performances this season as well.

Poor to average for 18 months 🤣

Bit early for the Fringe is it not.

[007]

Will Fish not named in Man Utd’s squad for their trip to the USA…

https://twitter.com/manutd/status/1681729586910904334?s=46&t=ki0plhI3ZN1PnVus1xnXtQ

That's good news and a change from the previous position. Fingers crossed he'll be announced shortly. Maybe went straight from Murrayfield to HTC to film his announcement clip, with any luck.

[Paulie Walnuts]

The red cards were generally the fault of the match officials.

Like when he stamped on Ramirez? Or made a stupid tackle at Pittodrie that he was never winning to give away a penalty AND get sent off? Or the one where he went over the ball on Aribo?

Give over. They were Porteous’ fault. Nobody else’s.

[SaulGoodman]

Thread going off track again?

[erin go bragh]

Will Fish not named in Man Utd’s squad for their trip to the USA…

https://twitter.com/manutd/status/1681729586910904334?s=46&t=ki0plhI3ZN1PnVus1xnXtQ

Good news for us. Hopefully he gets announced asap.

[Winston Ingram]

https://twitter.com/simonpeach/status/1681730557720313866?s=61&t=WQcv92feu62WUfbidLejfg

Fish not in squad for the US tour

[Paulie Walnuts]

Thread going off track again?

Yes, apologies. 👍🏼

[Since452]

Yes!!!! Fish not in the Man United US Tour squad!!!

https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/man-utd-announce-travelling-squad-for-tour-2023-in-the-united-states

Good news. Hopefully straight to East Mains in the morning.

[Rumble de Thump]

Like when he stamped on Ramirez? Or made a stupid tackle at Pittodrie that he was never winning to give away a penalty AND get sent off? Or the one where he went over the ball on Aribo?

Give over. They were Porteous’ fault. Nobody else’s.

That's certainly the kind of patter Sevco fans came out with at the time. What you've just said is nonsense, unfortunately. He left Scotland...and no red cards. And not being portrayed as pantomime villain. Exactly what everyone expected.

[007]

Will Fish not named in Man Utd’s squad for their trip to the USA…

https://twitter.com/manutd/status/1681729586910904334?s=46&t=ki0plhI3ZN1PnVus1xnXtQ

Did nobody at the match today hang about afterwards to see if the whole MUFC team except Fish got back on the team bus with Will getting picked up by Brian McDermott in his Datsun Sunny (or whatever he drives)?

[Unseen work]

Fish just uploaded a story of him in his Man U tracksuit getting off the bus.

Put the location as Edinburgh with a smiley face.

He’s just teasing us now

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Anyone know if Fish is in the US tour squad?


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[Hibbyradge]

Anyone know if Fish is in the US tour squad?


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There's been little to no information about that recently.

[CockneyRebel]

Good news. Hopefully straight to East Mains in the morning.

Jeezo - that was some saga just for a loan! Well chuffed even though just a season, with the new guy Harbottle and one or two promising youngsters, we should be well covered at the back now.

SEEN ON ANOTHER POST ON HERE THAT FISH NOT ON THE US TOUR!!!!

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

There's been little to no information about that recently.

Someone must know, surely


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[CockneyRebel]

Someone must know, surely


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See post above. Saw link to Twiiter which showed official list of those travelling.

[HibbyAndy]

Someone must know, surely


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:tee hee::tee hee:

[Hibbyradge]

Someone must know, surely


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It's impressive but annoying that these big clubs are so good at keeping their information discreet.

Lesser outfits would have publicised their travelling squad for all to see, but Man U know that knowledge is power.

[Hibbyradge]

See post above. Saw link to Twiiter which showed official list of those travelling.

:duck:

[Trinity Hibee]

That's certainly the kind of patter Sevco fans came out with at the time. What you've just said is nonsense, unfortunately. He left Scotland...and no red cards. And not being portrayed as pantomime villain. Exactly what everyone expected.

Sorry but it’s certainly not nonsense. Those were some terrible errors of judgements but Porteous. Not really sure how anyone can defend them

[SHODAN]

Here it come

[Rumble de Thump]

Sorry but it’s certainly not nonsense. Those were some terrible errors of judgements but Porteous. Not really sure how anyone can defend them

I already did :)

[Trinity Hibee]

I already did :)

You did so miserably

[Bobo]

Someone must know, surely


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Fish not in the squad :

TRAVELLING SQUAD FOR TOUR 2023

Goalkeepers:*Nathan Bishop, Tom Heaton, Dean Henderson, Radek Vitek.

Defenders:*Diogo Dalot, Alvaro Fernandez, Victor Lindelof, Harry Maguire, Lisandro Martinez, Luke Shaw, Raphael Varane, Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Brandon Williams.

Midfielders:*Amad, Antony, Casemiro, Christian Eriksen, Bruno Fernandes, Dan Gore, Hannibal, Kobbie Mainoo, Scott McTominay, Mason Mount, Facundo Pellistri, Jadon Sancho, Donny van de Beek.

Forwards:*Anthony Elanga, Omari Forson, Alejandro Garnacho, Anthony Martial, Marcus Rashford.

[Winston Ingram]

Do Saudi clubs not operate under the sales Financial Fair rules as European clubs?

Nope. There aren’t any in the Saudi league and there aren’t any in the equivalent version of the Champions League

[Rumble de Thump]

You did so miserably

Nope. It was pretty straightforward. But I think we can let people get back to talking about potential transfers again.

[Steven79]

chelsea in particular have been done a massive favour, they were looking down the barrel of serious FFP problems, the Saudi’s have given them a lot of money for players they wanted shot of anyway

Arsenal have done them a massive favour as well with £65 million for Havertz.

[007]

Someone must know, surely


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Sorry but nobody seems to have the answer. 🤷

[MWHIBBIES]

Arsenal have done them a massive favour as well with £65 million for Havertz.

Agreed.

Although Arteta might get something from him.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

See post above. Saw link to Twiiter which showed official list of those travelling.

Ah yes silly me


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[cameronw-hfc]

Fish not going to US. Great for us

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Fish not going to US. Great for us

No way, really? [emoji6]


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[6-2MAGIC]

Fish will be signed by Friday hopefully. I still think we need a striker to compete with ALF or even start ahead of him - I would take a punt on Sam Cosgrove who was on-loan at Plymouth last season.

[GTMRossaK3]

So apparently his full first name is Riley-Jay and for those asking about his height he is 1.87 metres which is a bit over 6’1”.

He was born 26/09/2000 hence, I assume that’s why he’s bagged the 26 shirt. Exactly 50 years to the day after me. All the very best as a Hibee young man!

[J-C]

Last 5 pages and I'm still unsure if Rocky is good or crap, oh and does anyone know if Fish is in the US squad?

[007]

Fish will be signed by Friday hopefully. I still think we need a striker to compete with ALF or even start ahead of him - I would take a punt on Sam Cosgrove who was on-loan at Plymouth last season.

Fish on a Friday. 🤔

[scoopyboy]

Last 5 pages and I'm still unsure if Rocky is good or crap, oh and does anyone know if Fish is in the US squad?

No sure if Rocky is crap or not J-C but Fish hasn't been named in the US squad as he's English and doesn't qualify to play for America:wink:

[J-C]

No sure if Rocky is crap or not J-C but Fish hasn't been named in the US squad as he's English and doesn't qualify to play for America:wink:

Cheers, hadn't seen it posted anywhere 😂😂

[badabing67]

Fish will be signed by Friday hopefully. I still think we need a striker to compete with ALF or even start ahead of him - I would take a punt on Sam Cosgrove who was on-loan at Plymouth last season.


Just No

[cameronw-hfc]

No way, really? [emoji6]


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Didn't realise how late i was to the party here 😂

[Springbank]

Hope Hibs use the sharks scene in Finding Nemo for the reveal

"I'm having fish tonight"

[Greencore]

Fish and chips on Friday.

[Bridge hibs]

Announce Fish 27018 27019

[HoboHarry]

Fish will be signed by Friday hopefully. I still think we need a striker to compete with ALF or even start ahead of him - I would take a punt on Sam Cosgrove who was on-loan at Plymouth last season.
Sam Cosgrove? You're drunk. Well I hope you are.

[Paloschi]

Anyone else heard Mo Eisa from MK Dons? Hibs trying to bring him in apparently and I assume that’s our Nisbet replacement

[Real Emerald]

Anyone else heard Mo Eisa from MK Dons? Hibs trying to bring him in apparently and I assume that’s our Nisbet replacement

Must be able to pen a good few songs from that name.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Anyone else heard Mo Eisa from MK Dons? Hibs trying to bring him in apparently and I assume that’s our Nisbet replacement

Another who’s scored goals in League Two? Surely we’ve learned that lesson


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[Bridge hibs]

Anyone else heard Mo Eisa from MK Dons? Hibs trying to bring him in apparently and I assume that’s our Nisbet replacementOops ..


On 16 April 2022, Eisa suffered a serious injury during a 3–2 home defeat to Sheffield Wednesday, which ruled him out for the remainder of the season and beyond

Hope he has recovered

[Stevie Reid]

Anyone else heard Mo Eisa from MK Dons? Hibs trying to bring him in apparently and I assume that’s our Nisbet replacement

Just looking him up. Seems LJ signed him before at Bristol City. Good goals to starts ratio, and plenty of experience at 29.

[500miles]

Another who’s scored goals in League Two? Surely we’ve learned that lesson


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League 1 for the last few seasons.

[Stevie Reid]

Oops ..


On 16 April 2022, Eisa suffered a serious injury during a 3–2 home defeat to Sheffield Wednesday, which ruled him out for the remainder of the season and beyond

Hope he has recovered

Played 37 times last season and scored 14 goals.

[Bridge hibs]

Played 37 times last season and scored 14 goals.So he has recovered then 😃

[Paloschi]

Another who’s scored goals in League Two? Surely we’ve learned that lesson


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Averages about 10 per season in league one. I wasn’t excited about him either but the more I read about him the more I can see it happening

[Green Reaper]

MK Don's record breaking signing in 2021, 6', 29. Pretty decent strike rate.

[Stevie Reid]

So he has recovered then 😃

:greengrin

[Unseen work]

Goal scoring record looks good but weirdly seems to get quite a bit of stick from MK Dons fans from a quick look.

Weak, falls over a lot and out jumped seems to be the common theme..

Perfect for the cinch 🤣

[Bridge hibs]

Goal scoring record looks good but weirdly seems to get quite a bit of stick from MK Dons fans from a quick look.

Weak, falls over a lot and out jumped seems to be the common theme..

Perfect for the cinch 🤣Player of the month November 22

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WH4VGrSONbQ

[Unseen work]

Player of the month November 22

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WH4VGrSONbQ

Read the comments in that video 🤣

[Bridge hibs]

Read the comments in that video 🤣

To be honest I wouldnt read too much into what they say, this place is bad enough with regards our own players 🤣

[Aldo]

Read the comments in that video [emoji1787]

Thank god Umpa Lumpa FC don’t play in the Cinch SPl

[Unseen work]

To be honest I wouldnt read too much into what they say, this place is bad enough with regards our own players 🤣

You’re absolutely right.

Millwall fans would have thought Nisbet was terrible based on some peoples posts on here!

Eisa’s clips and goal scoring record looks good so if Johnson knows and rates him I’m happy!

[NAE NOOKIE]

Mahrez not included because he’s a bargain at 30 million but most of the transfers to Saudi have been massively over their true value and much more than what any European team would realistically offer.

It’s destroying what little financial fair play was left in the game and like the MLS and Chinese league it just doesn’t matter who these clubs sign because no one is going to watch it.

I know little of Chinese football, but it would be mental to dismiss MLS as just a league with pots of cash and nothing else, simply because of Messi signing for Inter Miami this week.

This is a growing league and it's doing it organically, not simply through the signing of Galacticos like Messi, in fact players like him are the exception these days, its notable that the club who have signed him are struggling to enthuse the locals to some degree and are owned by the likes of David Beckham, who likely still has a European take on how to grow the game there. Miami for some reason has always struggled to get the local population on board, with a number of failed clubs going back to the 70s .. I thought at the time that Beckham had chosen entirely the wrong place to try and establish a club.

Elsewhere in the US most of the clubs are absolutely thriving, with loads of 'soccer specific' stadiums with realistic capacities of between 20 and 30 thousand being built over the last 10 years, stadiums that are by and large pretty full or totally full every week Clubs like Seattle Sounders, Atlanta and a few times Charlotte FC regularly draw crowds over 40,000 ... two weeks ago the Los Angeles derby between LA Galaxy and LA FC drew a crowd of 82,000 to the Rose Bowl ... both have their own stadiums that simply couldn't cope with the demand for tickets. Neither club has a player that could remotely be described as a Galactico.

There's a certain amount of snobbery aimed at MLS from Europe and elsewhere because of its comparative lack of history ... within 20 to 30 years at its current rate of sustained, not overnight, progress it will be a rival for any league in the world, both in calibre of player and financially.

[EGL2000]

What English fans have done this? 99% of the transfers have massively helped the selling clubs. They've sold aging players for silly money.

Seen a number complaining on twitter. Mid table ish teams who thought they could get top players from Italy etc who have went there instead.

[WeeRussell]

Like when he stamped on Ramirez? Or made a stupid tackle at Pittodrie that he was never winning to give away a penalty AND get sent off? Or the one where he went over the ball on Aribo?

Give over. They were Porteous’ fault. Nobody else’s.

Disagreed with you on Rocky and think you’ve gone overboard on criticism of Porto’s performances but I actually pretty much agree with you on his red cards.

I think we got far too good, as a fan base, at blaming referees and ‘Scottish football’ when Ryan made some poor decisions and challenges.

Anyway, don’t mean to take things off track again, just thought I’d show that I’m not permanently in disagreement with you 😁

[Paulie Walnuts]

Disagreed with you on Rocky and think you’ve gone overboard on criticism of Porto’s performances but I actually pretty much agree with you on his red cards.

I think we got far too good, as a fan base, at blaming referees and ‘Scottish football’ when Ryan made some poor decisions and challenges.

Anyway, don’t mean to take things off track again, just thought I’d show that I’m not permanently in disagreement with you 😁

:greengrin

Fair play mate. No hard feelings :aok:

[tonyrougier123]

Anyone else heard Mo Eisa from MK Dons? Hibs trying to bring him in apparently and I assume that’s our Nisbet replacement

Were you seeing this rumour bud?

[Donegal Hibby]

Will be extremely disappointed if Mohammad Eisa is Kevin Nisbet's replacement tbh 😞

[Rumble de Thump]

Disagreed with you on Rocky and think you’ve gone overboard on criticism of Porto’s performances but I actually pretty much agree with you on his red cards.

I think we got far too good, as a fan base, at blaming referees and ‘Scottish football’ when Ryan made some poor decisions and challenges.

Anyway, don’t mean to take things off track again, just thought I’d show that I’m not permanently in disagreement with you 😁

Let us know when he gets another red card 😁😁😁

[Ronniekirk]

Will be extremely disappointed if Mohammad Eisa is Kevin Nisbet's replacement tbh 😞

We won’t get someone who was in the kind of form Nisbet was in before he left imo He had upped a few gears to a different level Millwall have got a Bargain I know a few Millwall fans and they are loving him already

[Donegal Hibby]

We won’t get someone who was in the kind of form Nisbet was in before he left imo He had upped a few gears to a different level Millwall have got a Bargain I know a few Millwall fans and they are loving him already
Probably not mate though I do /did expect us to spend a decent amount of money on Nisbet's replacement that would be a marquee signing , basically a quality replacement and I can't say I'm terribly excited about signing another striker that's only ever played English League 1 and 2 Apart from 5 league games in the championship. I've also read he missed 14 games last season , 11the year before and only ever played more than 35 games 3 times in 11seasons ( what I read might be wrong of course ).

[Hibby70]

If we have a sell on fee with Nisbet, then one things for sure that if he is good he'll want a move to a bigger team pretty quickly.

[King Cosell]

Will be extremely disappointed if Mohammad Eisa is Kevin Nisbet's replacement tbh 😞

Kevin van Veen had a really patchy career before he joined Motherwell, seven years with Northampton & Scunthorpe, and was probably the best striker outside the Old Firm last season, slightly ahead of Nisbet & Shankland. No club gets all its transfers right, especially with young players, but this is an experienced player Johnson & McDermott will know well and I trust their judgement. Even if we were willing to spend £1m on a striker and make him out highest-paid player, it would be difficult to find someone who fits the bill, and we'd be competing with Championship & big League One clubs.

[hibees 7062]

Fish not travelling with Man Utd . Staying in Edinburgh to sign loan deal

[WeeRussell]

Let us know when he gets another red card 😁😁😁

Might never get one again in his life (I couldn’t really care unless it’s with Scotland now) but it doesn’t mean it was never his fault when he did.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Let us know when he gets another red card 😁😁😁

If your argument is that he didn’t get one in half a season in England, how do you explain the fact he didn’t get any in half a season in Scotland this season?

Or is it simply more likely that rather than some sinister plot against a mid table teams centre half that they then bizarrely never carried on when we were a better side and posed more of a threat that, you know… he just shouldn’t have done some of the things he done resulting in justified red cards?

[500miles]

If your argument is that he didn’t get one in half a season in England, how do you explain the fact he didn’t get any in half a season in Scotland this season?

Aribo and his Aberdeen red were an absolute farce. The fact the SFA punished him for a frivolous - a rule which had never been used before - appeal which the club had fair grounds for (double jeopardy rule) prove the witch hunt. Referees were getting paid per word about him in newspapers.

Of course, it all stopped when Steve Clarke defended him in the press, who happens to be one of the most senior people at the SFA.

[MWHIBBIES]

Ryan was indisciplined here. You can believe that AND disagree with some decisions/the witch hunt. He was daft at times, no question.

[Hibernian Verse]

Will be extremely disappointed if Mohammad Eisa is Kevin Nisbet's replacement tbh 😞

Are you basing that on his wikipedia?

The reality is that none of us really know how a player will adapt to our club or Scottish football in general. There's just as much chance of him scoring 20 goals next season if he signs as there is of him struggling to find any form.

[BILLYHIBS]

Towards the end of his spell with us Ryan was hot and cold and not irreplaceable

Throughout it all though you could tell he was a Hibs boy one of our own and always gave his best

His performances for Scotland have been outstanding

Wish him all the best and hope he gets a move to a big club and look forward to seeing him sitting beside us the next time he has a spare weekend

[Since452]

If we have a sell on fee with Nisbet, then one things for sure that if he is good he'll want a move to a bigger team pretty quickly.

Rovers fans warned me he'll move clubs as quickly as possible if he's doing well. He's an an ambitious lad. That's not to everyones liking but if he hits the ground running and bangs then in he'll be pushing for a move in January or the summer. And for our sake let's hope he does. Will be interesting to see if Dunfermline are due a cut of his next transfer.

[FifeHibs]

Rovers fans warned me he'll move clubs as quickly as possible if he's doing well. He's an an ambitious lad. That's not to everyones liking but if he hits the ground running and bangs then in he'll be pushing for a move in January or the summer. And for our sake let's hope he does. Will be interesting to see if Dunfermline are due a cut of his next transfer.

Fair play to him, it’s a short career and he has had a few injuries.
Any person on this board would take a job 3/4 times your wages for the exact same job. Hopefully he does well and we get a sell on fee.

It’s natural as fans we get attached to players but for them it’s just a job and they have to make as much as they can.

[Donegal Hibby]

Are you basing that on his wikipedia?

The reality is that none of us really know how a player will adapt to our club or Scottish football in general. There's just as much chance of him scoring 20 goals next season if he signs as there is of him struggling to find any form.

Not just his Wikipedia but on his clubs forum as well . He was at Peterborough in League 1and scored 5 goals in 30 odd appearances. 14 goals last season in a league 1that isn't as good as ours imo though did score over 20 for Cheltenham in league 2 one time but then again so did Mckirdy for Swindon too.

Our rivals for 3rd spot Hertz have Shankland that scored 24 goals last year and Aberdeen had two players who scored 16 each , with Nisbet away our current top scorer has 9.I really thought we might spend 600K or 700k on somebody decent and not be looking at the lower English Leagues again . Sorry but if Mohammad Eisa is our replacement for Nisbet then I think it's very disappointing and lacks ambition TBH .

[MWHIBBIES]

Not just his Wikipedia but on his clubs forum as well . He was at Peterborough in League 1and scored 5 goals in 30 odd appearances. 14 goals last season in a league 1that isn't as good as ours imo though did score over 20 for Cheltenham in league 2 one time but then again so did Mckirdy for Swindon too.

Our rivals for 3rd spot Hertz have Shankland that scored 24 goals last year and Aberdeen had two players who scored 16 each , with Nisbet away our current top scorer has 9.I really thought we might spend 600K or 700k on somebody decent and not be looking at the lower English Leagues again . Sorry but if Mohammad Eisa is our replacement for Nisbet then I think it's very disappointing and lacks ambition TBH .

Shankland scored 11 or 12 penalties. Those are silly numbers, not repeatable. If we sign this guy and he gets 14 goals in the league, I'd be delighted.

What leagues can we look at for the replacement?

[Libby Hibby]

Not just his Wikipedia but on his clubs forum as well . He was at Peterborough in League 1and scored 5 goals in 30 odd appearances. 14 goals last season in a league 1that isn't as good as ours imo though did score over 20 for Cheltenham in league 2 one time but then again so did Mckirdy for Swindon too.

Our rivals for 3rd spot Hertz have Shankland that scored 24 goals last year and Aberdeen had two players who scored 16 each , with Nisbet away our current top scorer has 9.I really thought we might spend 600K or 700k on somebody decent and not be looking at the lower English Leagues again . Sorry but if Mohammad Eisa is our replacement for Nisbet then I think it's very disappointing and lacks ambition TBH .

Is there anyone out there that you have researched and within our budget that would be a good signing for us?

[flash]

Is there anyone out there that you have researched and within our budget that would be a good signing for us?

Probably not but am sure he will get another 25 forum posts out of it.

[Brooster]

Is there anyone out there that you have researched and within our budget that would be a good signing for us?

He thinks £700k is our budget for a striker, he's lost the plot.

[Donegal Hibby]

Probably not but am sure he will get another 25 forum posts out of it.
Got one from you already :greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

He thinks £700k is our budget for a striker, he's lost the plot.

There was talk of Hibs wanting to spend a significant portion of our budget on a striker although that might have been made up by a wanabee ITKer.

But if we indulge the idea, what sort of sums would we be talking about?

[Brightside]

Any striker we buy will be low fee big wages.

[Donegal Hibby]

He thinks £700k is our budget for a striker, he's lost the plot.
Why have I lost the plot about spending 700k btw ?

[Dublin07]

Not just his Wikipedia but on his clubs forum as well . He was at Peterborough in League 1and scored 5 goals in 30 odd appearances. 14 goals last season in a league 1that isn't as good as ours imo though did score over 20 for Cheltenham in league 2 one time but then again so did Mckirdy for Swindon too.

Our rivals for 3rd spot Hertz have Shankland that scored 24 goals last year and Aberdeen had two players who scored 16 each , with Nisbet away our current top scorer has 9.I really thought we might spend 600K or 700k on somebody decent and not be looking at the lower English Leagues again . Sorry but if Mohammad Eisa is our replacement for Nisbet then I think it's very disappointing and lacks ambition TBH .

Players for £600k better than league 1 are not easy to find. A regular goal scorer in the championship will go for about £10m! I think big Myko is one that could do it. I am sure we are looking all over the place not just league 1 and 2.van veen was from league 2.

[Edinburgh Green]

Not just his Wikipedia but on his clubs forum as well . He was at Peterborough in League 1and scored 5 goals in 30 odd appearances. 14 goals last season in a league 1that isn't as good as ours imo though did score over 20 for Cheltenham in league 2 one time but then again so did Mckirdy for Swindon too.

Our rivals for 3rd spot Hertz have Shankland that scored 24 goals last year and Aberdeen had two players who scored 16 each , with Nisbet away our current top scorer has 9.I really thought we might spend 600K or 700k on somebody decent and not be looking at the lower English Leagues again . Sorry but if Mohammad Eisa is our replacement for Nisbet then I think it's very disappointing and lacks ambition TBH .
Mo Eisas last 3 transfer fees total £3.5m so if we did sign him it would be for a decent fee

[blackpoolhibs]

Why have I lost the plot about spending 700k btw ?

What wages would you imagine a £700k signing would want?

[MagicSwirlingShip]

What wages would you imagine a £700k signing would want?

How much did we pay for Elie?

[Brightside]

There was talk of Hibs wanting to spend a significant portion of our budget on a striker although that might have been made up by a wanabee ITKer.

But if we indulge the idea, what sort of sums would we be talking about?

That Ben is a terrible wannabe ITKer. Is there really such a thing as a wannabe ITKer. But as you brought this onto the main forum a good dozen people have heard him say that LJ wants to spend the majority of his budget on an out and out no.9. I’ve no doubt that was Myko and we are now looking elsewhere. Prob in the just out of contract market. I’m 100% not ITK, I just have ears.

[BoomtownHibees]

Myko possibly heading to Poland

[GloryGlory]

Myko possibly heading to Poland

According to Daily Record transfer news:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-rangers-celtic-30481326

[Winston Ingram]

Myko possibly heading to Poland

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-rangers-celtic-30481326#653890