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JimBHibees
13-05-2023, 05:52 PM
Should go for McGrath purely for the penalties....
Goodpoint
Hibernian Verse
13-05-2023, 05:53 PM
Boyler will be back on pens next season
badabing67
13-05-2023, 05:59 PM
Boyler will be back on pens next season
Should still go for McGrath though
SMAXXA
13-05-2023, 09:25 PM
Boyler will be back on pens next season
Should be available for the last game of the season but seemingly the club not planning on risking him.
neil7908
13-05-2023, 09:45 PM
Should be available for the last game of the season but seemingly the club not planning on risking him.
Oooffft that's a tricky one. He's one guy you'd at least want on the bench if we need a win to secure European football!
Unseen work
13-05-2023, 09:52 PM
Oooffft that's a tricky one. He's one guy you'd at least want on the bench if we need a win to secure European football!
Agreed, I would normally say don’t risk him and let him have a full pre season.
But if he’s back training and actually fit to have on the bench v hearts that’s massive.
The lift he’d give the squad and fans. The fear he’d give the hearts players alone would create room for others and then there’s the factor of what he may actually produce.
Still think it will be about one month too early though
Agreed, I would normally say don’t risk him and let him have a full pre season.
But if he’s back training and actually fit to have on the bench v hearts that’s massive.
The lift he’d give the squad and fans. The fear he’d give the hearts players alone would create room for others and then there’s the factor of what he may actually produce.
Still think it will be about one month too early though
Bit risky, imagine he was injured, the manager etc would be run out of town
1875Sean
14-05-2023, 12:03 AM
Should still go for McGrath though
From what I’ve seen he hasn’t done much since leaving st mirren
Alex Trager
14-05-2023, 07:57 AM
Should be available for the last game of the season but seemingly the club not planning on risking him.
Oh wow.
If he is available he most certainly gets played
Bridge hibs
14-05-2023, 08:36 AM
Oh wow.
If he is available he most certainly gets played
Against the hearts cloggers, not worth the risk mate no matter whats at stake, Jurgen Naismith would have him targeted from the first whistle
Scooter
14-05-2023, 09:42 AM
Oh wow.
If he is available he most certainly gets played
Nah not for me
Alex Trager
14-05-2023, 09:47 AM
Nah not for me
If he’s fit, then we must play our best player. He’s as likely to get fouled pr injured in that game as any other game he plays.
I doubt it’s even true but if it is he would be a massive boost walking into tynie knowing he’s on the bench.
It would also be firmly in their minds what happened last time he came off the bench vs them
Scooter
14-05-2023, 10:12 AM
If he’s fit, then we must play our best player. He’s as likely to get fouled pr injured in that game as any other game he plays.
I doubt it’s even true but if it is he would be a massive boost walking into tynie knowing he’s on the bench.
It would also be firmly in their minds what happened last time he came off the bench vs them
I hear what your saying but I'd rather allow Boyle the extra time over summer to be ready than throw him in one game and lose him again for 9 months
neil7908
14-05-2023, 10:12 AM
If he’s fit, then we must play our best player. He’s as likely to get fouled pr injured in that game as any other game he plays.
I doubt it’s even true but if it is he would be a massive boost walking into tynie knowing he’s on the bench.
It would also be firmly in their minds what happened last time he came off the bench vs them
Yup. As long as he is genuinely fit and medically clear of injury (even if not match fit) then he must be involved.
This game could be worth a lot of money for the club and he's a player that we know can make all the difference.
Smartie
14-05-2023, 10:18 AM
I hear what your saying but I'd rather allow Boyle the extra time over summer to be ready than throw him in one game and lose him again for 9 months
If there was an increased risk of that happening then I’d suggest he wasn’t ready and obviously shouldn’t play.
But if he’s genuinely ready to play a part then he’d be worth playing.
Alex Trager
14-05-2023, 10:19 AM
If there was an increased risk of that happening then I’d suggest he wasn’t ready and obviously shouldn’t play.
But if he’s genuinely ready to play a part then he’d be worth playing.
That’s it.
If there was an increased risk of that happening then I’d suggest he wasn’t ready and obviously shouldn’t play.
But if he’s genuinely ready to play a part then he’d be worth playing.
Was it not an injury that hadn't shown up previously and wasn't even a hindrance for him. It was shown up in a scan and the surgeon suggested he best get it done or it may have been more serious, he was literally playing with a damaged cruciate without realising it.
Eyrie
14-05-2023, 03:08 PM
It would be worth putting Boyle on the bench if only to give Naismith's brain cell another problem to worry about.
But I wouldn't play him.
Unseen work
14-05-2023, 04:52 PM
Yan Dhanda at Ross County is attracting alot of interest.
Still only 24 and played behind the striker.
3 goals and 6 assists but has picked up a couple of injuries.
Wonder if he’s one we’ll be keeping an eye on, would imagine Johnson and McDermott would know him well from their time in England.
Dunbar Hibee
14-05-2023, 05:34 PM
Oh wow.
If he is available he most certainly gets played
He won’t be available.
xyz23jc
14-05-2023, 10:04 PM
The best players in the world miss penalties sometimes, it happens.
There isn’t a signing in the world that would guarantee us not to miss any.
James Tavernier....? :wink::greengrin
PS. They'd obviously have to be retaken on a VAR intervention! :rolleyes:
Paulie Walnuts
15-05-2023, 07:16 AM
It would be worth putting Boyle on the bench if only to give Naismith's brain cell another problem to worry about.
But I wouldn't play him.
Agree.
Even if we have something to play for, which there’s a good chance we won’t with us having the OF in our next two games, it’s the difference of one qualifying round where we’d be seeded anyway. I wouldn’t risk him.
DIXIHIBS
15-05-2023, 07:57 AM
If there was an increased risk of that happening then I’d suggest he wasn’t ready and obviously shouldn’t play.
But if he’s genuinely ready to play a part then he’d be worth playing.
He may be genuinely fit but not being match fit would surely increase the risk of injury ie slow to tackle etc. Huge game but give him a pre-season. Maybe stick him on bench to give them something to think about. Have him warming up with 20 mins to go 😁.
JimBHibees
15-05-2023, 08:06 AM
He may be genuinely fit but not being match fit would surely increase the risk of injury ie slow to tackle etc. Huge game but give him a pre-season. Maybe stick him on bench to give them something to think about. Have him warming up with 20 mins to go 😁.
Also against Hearts which definitely increases the chance of injury. He would need to have been playing to have any chance of taking part. Makes sense to be patient and wait until he is genuinely ready to play. A good preseason and hopefully he is flying for the new season
flash
15-05-2023, 08:45 AM
Surely there is no chance whatsoever of this happening.
Could stick him on the bench to cause mischief but that would be the limit of it.
Tambo
15-05-2023, 11:36 AM
The*Manchester Evening News reports*that centre-back pair Phil Jones and Axel Tuanzebe are set to lead the departures while academy goalkeeper Ondrej Mastny, right-back Charlie Wellens, and striker Mateo Mejia could also leave in the close season.
Midfielder Ethan Galbraith, 22, who was linked with a loan move to*Hibs*during the January transfer window, has also reportedly been informed that his contract won’t be renewed when he returns from his loan spell with Salford City.*
I don't even remember being linked with a loan move in January for him. Anyone ITK if he would be a good player for us?
Donegal Hibby
15-05-2023, 11:44 AM
The*Manchester Evening News reports*that centre-back pair Phil Jones and Axel Tuanzebe are set to lead the departures while academy goalkeeper Ondrej Mastny, right-back Charlie Wellens, and striker Mateo Mejia could also leave in the close season.
Midfielder Ethan Galbraith, 22, who was linked with a loan move to*Hibs*during the January transfer window, has also reportedly been informed that his contract won’t be renewed when he returns from his loan spell with Salford City.*
I don't even remember being linked with a loan move in January for him. Anyone ITK if he would be a good player for us?
Was just about to post this as well 😁.
Can't remember his name being mentioned in January tbh . Here's the article for anyone that's not seen it .
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-linked-youngster-set-to-depart-manchester-united-in-the-summer-after-loan-spell-ends-4142783
JimBHibees
15-05-2023, 11:50 AM
Was just about to post this as well 😁.
Can't remember his name being mentioned in January tbh . Here's the article for anyone that's not seen it .
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-linked-youngster-set-to-depart-manchester-united-in-the-summer-after-loan-spell-ends-4142783
Sure he has been linked previously not this year though
Donegal Hibby
15-05-2023, 12:06 PM
Sure he has been linked previously not this year though
Can't say I remember is name being mentioned tbh . Looks not a bad wee player going by this .
https://youtu.be/lCgEh2FG_5Y
Halmyre Hibee
15-05-2023, 01:19 PM
Can't say I remember is name being mentioned tbh . Looks not a bad wee player going by this .
https://youtu.be/lCgEh2FG_5Y
Linked with a move to Newcastle United. Derby County, Stoke City, and Sunderland are also understood to be monitoring the situation. Must be well thought of if those club’s interested.
Donegal Hibby
15-05-2023, 01:41 PM
Linked with a move to Newcastle United. Derby County, Stoke City, and Sunderland are also understood to be monitoring the situation. Must be well thought of if those club’s interested.
Yeah he must be . Think he's got a couple of caps for northern Ireland as well . You mentioned some big clubs there and I'd doubt we'd get him if they are in for him tbh .
BoltonHibee
15-05-2023, 02:13 PM
The*Manchester Evening News reports*that centre-back pair Phil Jones and Axel Tuanzebe are set to lead the departures while academy goalkeeper Ondrej Mastny, right-back Charlie Wellens, and striker Mateo Mejia could also leave in the close season.
Midfielder Ethan Galbraith, 22, who was linked with a loan move to*Hibs*during the January transfer window, has also reportedly been informed that his contract won’t be renewed when he returns from his loan spell with Salford City.*
I don't even remember being linked with a loan move in January for him. Anyone ITK if he would be a good player for us?
We tried to get him on loan in January but from memory he wasn’t interested in moving at the time and I think we went beyond the cut off date. He’s a good player technically and has great distribution. Busy player with bags of energy. I think he’d be decent.
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Fuzzywuzzy
15-05-2023, 05:53 PM
Docherty is out of contract in the summer. Thought he was a great player
GreenNWhiteArmy
15-05-2023, 06:36 PM
Docherty is out of contract in the summer. Thought he was a great player
What a signing that would be. Imagine he won't be short of offers down south tbh
badabing67
15-05-2023, 07:08 PM
Has anybody been keeping tabs on Ryan Gould
cameronw-hfc
15-05-2023, 07:33 PM
Has anybody been keeping tabs on Ryan Gould
Miles out of our reach. Done well after he returned to Portugal and has since been doing well in MLS. Imagine they'd ask for a few mil at least.
04Sauzee
15-05-2023, 07:37 PM
Miles out of our reach. Done well after he returned to Portugal and has since been doing well in MLS. Imagine they'd ask for a few mil at least.
Plus his wages in the MLS are much more than we would/can pay.
04Sauzee
15-05-2023, 07:40 PM
Read today that Daniel Harvey is out of contract at MK Dons , sure we were rumoured to be interested under Jack Ross when he was still with Ayr Utd. No idea how he's been getting on but could see us in the market for a LB.
cameronw-hfc
15-05-2023, 08:00 PM
Plus his wages in the MLS are much more than we would/can pay.
Yep. Always feel we got very unlucky with him. Probably got him a year before he fully turned into the player he is now and struggled for fitness. Very good player.
Read today that Daniel Harvey is out of contract at MK Dons , sure we were rumoured to be interested under Jack Ross when he was still with Ayr Utd. No idea how he's been getting on but could see us in the market for a LB.
We definitely tracked him. Was at same time as we were watching Danny Armstrong. I think was initially before Ross but may have continued.
Big_Franck
15-05-2023, 08:38 PM
Yep. Always feel we got very unlucky with him. Probably got him a year before he fully turned into the player he is now and struggled for fitness. Very good player.
I totally disagree. He wasn't at our level and deservedly didn't get a game. Played well for some tiny club in Portugal after us and now plays in Canada. It's not as if the MLS is a good standard, as we saw with Mueller. I think if we signed Gauld now, he'd be punted within a year and we made the right decision in not signing him permanently.
Since452
15-05-2023, 08:45 PM
I totally disagree. He wasn't at our level and deservedly didn't get a game. Played well for some tiny club in Portugal after us and now plays in Canada. It's not as if the MLS is a good standard, as we saw with Mueller. I think if we signed Gauld now, he'd be punted within a year and we made the right decision in not signing him permanently.
I agree. Hugely underwhelming here. Don't think he/we were unlucky, that's just his level. If he was any good he'd be in and around the Scotland squad.
cameronw-hfc
15-05-2023, 08:50 PM
I totally disagree. He wasn't at our level and deservedly didn't get a game. Played well for some tiny club in Portugal after us and now plays in Canada. It's not as if the MLS is a good standard, as we saw with Mueller. I think if we signed Gauld now, he'd be punted within a year and we made the right decision in not signing him permanently.
9 in 33 in his final year in Portugal playing as an 8, for a tiny team in the top league in Portugal is very good.
MLS is a decent standard. We got Muller, a bang average MLS player and he looked like it, but the top players from that league would generally do well over here. Won awards in his first year in the MLS as well.
He was very obviously to me anyway talented, but hadn't figured it out yet. We got him at the wrong time, he openly struggled for fitness at Hibs and I seem to remember a brilliant assist in one of his first few games.
Weird to not look at any context and just deem him not good enough, as he'd easily walk into our team right now. Would be our best midfielder one of our best players.
Haymaker
15-05-2023, 10:33 PM
Plus his wages in the MLS are much more than we would/can pay.
$43k a week. Little bit out our league
MagicSwirlingShip
15-05-2023, 10:50 PM
Magic video going around Twitter of John Mcginn bossing it against Spurs. Been one of their best since the new manager arrived.
Hibbyradge
15-05-2023, 11:30 PM
Magic video going around Twitter of John Mcginn bossing it against Spurs. Been one of their best since the new manager arrived.
Cheers for that! :rolleyes:
:greengrin
MagicSwirlingShip
15-05-2023, 11:55 PM
Cheers for that! :rolleyes:
:greengrin
Anytime ;)
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1657529761256685568
Hibbyradge
16-05-2023, 12:09 AM
Anytime ;)
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1657529761256685568
Thanks. 😀 That's excellent. He's one of my favourite ever players.
cameronw-hfc
16-05-2023, 12:15 AM
Thanks. 😀 That's excellent. He's one of my favourite ever players.
Shows just how much he's improved that the page posting the video was effectively known on twitter by Villa fans as the guy who hates Mcginn.
Improved so much recently even he's posting compilations of him
cameronw-hfc
16-05-2023, 12:24 AM
Marciano's wife liking a lot of posts saying time to come home from etc from Hibs fans. I hope there's something in that and it's not just her being nice but doesn't seem to be a lot of Feyenord fans comments liked by her.
Vault Boy
16-05-2023, 12:44 AM
Marciano's wife liking a lot of posts saying time to come home from etc from Hibs fans. I hope there's something in that and it's not just her being nice but doesn't seem to be a lot of Feyenord fans comments liked by her.
Just won the Eredivisie with Feyenord, which must be some feeling and healthy for his bank account too. That being said, only 6 starts all season.
If he’s after more game time, I’m sure Ofir knows the Marcianos always have a home at Easter Road. Would love to see him back one day.
Paulie Walnuts
16-05-2023, 06:52 AM
Just won the Eredivisie with Feyenord, which must be some feeling and healthy for his bank account too. That being said, only 6 starts all season.
If he’s after more game time, I’m sure Ofir knows the Marcianos always have a home at Easter Road. Would love to see him back one day.
Marciano would be an exceptional signing :agree:
Lendo
16-05-2023, 07:06 AM
Just won the Eredivisie with Feyenord, which must be some feeling and healthy for his bank account too. That being said, only 6 starts all season.
If he’s after more game time, I’m sure Ofir knows the Marcianos always have a home at Easter Road. Would love to see him back one day.
Would be even better seeing his wife Shelly kicking about again :wink:
Iain G
16-05-2023, 07:32 AM
Marciano would be an exceptional signing :agree:
Rather stick with Marshall and focus resources in a place where we need to spend them.
Paulie Walnuts
16-05-2023, 07:55 AM
Rather stick with Marshall and focus resources in a place where we need to spend them.
Goalkeeper is where we need to spend them imo. Marshall has been poor over the piece this season and in theory will only get worse at his age. A new goalkeeper should be a priority for me.
Iain G
16-05-2023, 08:42 AM
Goalkeeper is where we need to spend them imo. Marshall has been poor over the piece this season and in theory will only get worse at his age. A new goalkeeper should be a priority for me.
Then I want Bogdan please 😁
Goalkeeper is where we need to spend them imo. Marshall has been poor over the piece this season and in theory will only get worse at his age. A new goalkeeper should be a priority for me.
Can’t disagree much with this, I think we should be bringing in another GK I don’t think Johnston will be ready, another gk with experience should be able to bleed him over a couple seasons, in defence of marsh tho we really need to be better defensively, both full backs need looked at imo not a lot of cross balls are stopped for me and obvs we need to replace fish and possibly one more CB in as well
.Sean.
16-05-2023, 08:48 AM
Thanks. 😀 That's excellent. He's one of my favourite ever players.
He is by an absolute mile my favourite ever Hibs player, love him
superfurryhibby
16-05-2023, 08:49 AM
New keeper is needed, Marciano would do for me.
Fuzzywuzzy
16-05-2023, 09:05 AM
Is Marciano likely to have his contract extended?
bingo70
16-05-2023, 09:09 AM
Any new keeper we sign will be signed as a back up with a view to competing with Marshall for first team football. We were probably very fortunate Marshall was pretty much ever present (did he miss any games at all actually?), I’d be surprised if we got away with that next year again given his age.
I think we need to be looking at someone who is maybe 3rd or 4th choice at a big club down south and is wanting to get closer to first team football but happy to bide their time waiting on opportunities, alternatively someone young playing well in the Scottish lower leagues deserving a move up the way but again, willing to wait for their chance.
I’d be amazed if we were to sign someone like Rocky who would want a large wage and demand first team football.
I totally get that he is better than Marshall however Marshall will be on a big wage as well, we realistically can’t blow a big salary on two expensive, experienced goalkeepers.
Paulie Walnuts
16-05-2023, 09:12 AM
Any new keeper we sign will be signed as a back up with a view to competing with Marshall for first team football. We were probably very fortunate Marshall was pretty much ever present (did he miss any games at all actually?), I’d be surprised if we got away with that next year again given his age.
I think we need to be looking at someone who is maybe 3rd or 4th choice at a big club down south and is wanting to get closer to first team football but happy to bide their time waiting on opportunities, alternatively someone young playing well in the Scottish lower leagues deserving a move up the way but again, willing to wait for their chance.
I’d be amazed if we were to sign someone like Rocky who would want a large wage and demand first team football.
I totally get that he is better than Marshall however Marshall will be on a big wage as well, we realistically can’t blow a big salary on two expensive, experienced goalkeepers.
Problem with your last paragraph is we need to imo. Marshall has really cost us this season and will continue to do so next season. He needs replaced with a good goalkeeper whether he’s on a good wage or not. A good keeper is worth the spend imo.
Hibbyradge
16-05-2023, 09:15 AM
Marciano now qualifies as a rumour.
But file it under "rumour that had zero chance of being true".
Paulie Walnuts
16-05-2023, 09:17 AM
Marciano now qualifies as a rumour.
But file it under "rumour that had zero chance of being true".
Not sure about that. Out of contract and his family absolutely love Edinburgh.
If we made him an offer I think we’d be in with a real shout of getting him.
Paulie Walnuts
16-05-2023, 09:18 AM
Then I want Bogdan please 😁
Not withstanding the fact I think Rocky is a better keeper, I’d also go for Rocky because of his age. He’s probably the perfect age for a 3 or 4 year deal and means we can ignore the goalkeeper position for a few years and focus on the rest of the team and would give Johnson plenty time to get first team ready.
Bogdan is a couple of years older and would be a more short term signing imo.
bingo70
16-05-2023, 09:20 AM
Problem with your last paragraph is we need to imo. Marshall has really cost us this season and will continue to do so next season. He needs replaced with a good goalkeeper whether he’s on a good wage or not. A good keeper is worth the spend imo.
I think we can get better and I think he is showing his age now, I don’t agree that he’s a massive problem though.
FWIW though, I’m not denying we need a new goalie, I just think we need to be a bit smarter with the recruitment than an experienced first team ready player. There’ll be good goalies available for free or on loan that won’t demand the salary of a 33 year old experienced international goalie coming from the Dutch champions. He will quite rightly demand a very significant salary. We don’t have an unlimited pot of cash, imo we can’t justify paying one of our biggest salaries to a goalie to sit on the bench most weeks, whether that’s Marshall or Ofir.
The Modfather
16-05-2023, 09:30 AM
Any new keeper we sign will be signed as a back up with a view to competing with Marshall for first team football. We were probably very fortunate Marshall was pretty much ever present (did he miss any games at all actually?), I’d be surprised if we got away with that next year again given his age.
I think we need to be looking at someone who is maybe 3rd or 4th choice at a big club down south and is wanting to get closer to first team football but happy to bide their time waiting on opportunities, alternatively someone young playing well in the Scottish lower leagues deserving a move up the way but again, willing to wait for their chance.
I’d be amazed if we were to sign someone like Rocky who would want a large wage and demand first team football.
I totally get that he is better than Marshall however Marshall will be on a big wage as well, we realistically can’t blow a big salary on two expensive, experienced goalkeepers.
I’d be happy with a steady keeper on loan for a season to allow Johnson to go out on loan with a view to him becoming number 1 next season. Marshall had a rough period, and we could upgrade him, but he’s not a liability so I’d make my peace with him next season to fix other priorities, like midfield.
Given we’ve got a finite budget I’d maybe have given Dabrowski another year to sit on the bench.
SHODAN
16-05-2023, 09:34 AM
https://i.imgur.com/B45lkmM.png
Think she might be having a word in her husband's ear...
bingo70
16-05-2023, 09:36 AM
I think we can get better and I think he is showing his age now, I don’t agree that he’s a massive problem though.
FWIW though, I’m not denying we need a new goalie, I just think we need to be a bit smarter with the recruitment than an experienced first team ready player. There’ll be good goalies available for free or on loan that won’t demand the salary of a 33 year old experienced international goalie coming from the Dutch champions. He will quite rightly demand a very significant salary. We don’t have an unlimited pot of cash, imo we can’t justify paying one of our biggest salaries to a goalie to sit on the bench most weeks, whether that’s Marshall or Ofir.
Just because I’m bored I’m going to throw another name in of someone who I think is more realistic.
Arthur Okonkwo, yes, him that had a nightmare against us for Arsenal. Someone McDermott will know well and he’s just had a good loan spell at Sturm Graz (going by one tweet I read, I’m no expert on Austrian football).
Young promising keeper highly thought of but not near their first team is likely to be a more realistic option to compete with Marshall than a proven, experienced keeper IMO.
The fact he had a bad game against us is neither here nor there really. He was very young then and the fact he was even included in that squad showed he’s highly rated down there.
Signing someone like that on loan for a year would allow Johnstone to go out on loan and get matches every week.
Unseen work
16-05-2023, 09:42 AM
I’m not sure Johnson would want Marciano, think he would want a keeper with much better distribution than him.
As for the rest of the squad it’s quite difficult to tell what he’ll want.
Will Miller get a chance at righback? Cadden won’t play there and CJ will be away. If Miller gets moved on I’d like to see us go Ryan Strain from St Mirren.
Centre back Fish will be away and Hanlon is getting older. Rocky is back fit as is Devlin (out of contract but was always mentioned for next season), still think we’ll try and bring in one or two.
Left back we have Stevenson and Cabraja. Will Cabraja get more of a chance next season, he’s had a lot to go through this one. Oscar McIntyre still not ready imo so if Cabraja goes we need a new left back too.
Centre mid we have loads of players but need that more attacking type, Jonny Williams, Jamie McGrath?
Right wing we’ll look good with Boyle, Cadden and McKirdy if he stays (doubtful)
Left we have Youan, Mackay, Tavares and have to wait and see if we resign McGeady which I can’t see.
Up top Nisbet is almost certainly away so leaves us with Doidge, and Melkersen. Will need to bring in a couple strikers too more than likely.
Be a lot of ins and outs again this summer imo
Paulie Walnuts
16-05-2023, 09:53 AM
I think we can get better and I think he is showing his age now, I don’t agree that he’s a massive problem though.
FWIW though, I’m not denying we need a new goalie, I just think we need to be a bit smarter with the recruitment than an experienced first team ready player. There’ll be good goalies available for free or on loan that won’t demand the salary of a 33 year old experienced international goalie coming from the Dutch champions. He will quite rightly demand a very significant salary. We don’t have an unlimited pot of cash, imo we can’t justify paying one of our biggest salaries to a goalie to sit on the bench most weeks, whether that’s Marshall or Ofir.
Fair enough. I reckon he is a massive problem tbh. I can’t recall many goalies costing us so many goals over a season and it’s likely to get worse. Think he’s at about 7 or 8 where they vary between should have done better to really poor. Quite a few of them have came in pretty big games as well and his stats in terms of shots faced/goals conceded is really poor.
bingo70
16-05-2023, 09:55 AM
Fair enough. I reckon he is a massive problem tbh. I can’t recall many goalies costing us so many goals over a season and it’s likely to get worse. Think he’s at about 7 or 8 where they vary between should have done better to really poor. Quite a few of them have came in pretty big games as well.
He’s got fantastic hair though, I do fear you’re not taking that into consideration at all.
Paulie Walnuts
16-05-2023, 09:56 AM
He’s got fantastic hair though, I do fear you’re not taking that into consideration at all.
He does have that :agree:
Although rocky has a fantastic wife :greengrin
bingo70
16-05-2023, 10:10 AM
He does have that :agree:
Although rocky has a fantastic wife :greengrin
**** it, let’s bring back the goalie school.
Hibernian Verse
16-05-2023, 10:20 AM
I’m not sure Johnson would want Marciano, think he would want a keeper with much better distribution than him.
As for the rest of the squad it’s quite difficult to tell what he’ll want.
Will Miller get a chance at righback? Cadden won’t play there and CJ will be away. If Miller gets moved on I’d like to see us go Ryan Strain from St Mirren.
Centre back Fish will be away and Hanlon is getting older. Rocky is back fit as is Devlin (out of contract but was always mentioned for next season), still think we’ll try and bring in one or two.
Left back we have Stevenson and Cabraja. Will Cabraja get more of a chance next season, he’s had a lot to go through this one. Oscar McIntyre still not ready imo so if Cabraja goes we need a new left back too.
Centre mid we have loads of players but need that more attacking type, Jonny Williams, Jamie McGrath?
Right wing we’ll look good with Boyle, Cadden and McKirdy if he stays (doubtful)
Left we have Youan, Mackay, Tavares and have to wait and see if we resign McGeady which I can’t see.
Up top Nisbet is almost certainly away so leaves us with Doidge, and Melkersen. Will need to bring in a couple strikers too more than likely.
Be a lot of ins and outs again this summer imo
When you put it like that, we have a lot of work to do in the summer.
BILLYHIBS
16-05-2023, 10:28 AM
Got to hope this new DoF can pull a rabbit or eleven out of the hat
Did an ok job at Celtic by all accounts
Big summer ahead
Oh and a decent goalkeeper please one that can catch and kick a ball preferably
JimBHibees
16-05-2023, 10:39 AM
Not sure about that. Out of contract and his family absolutely love Edinburgh.
If we made him an offer I think we’d be in with a real shout of getting him.
Got to assume he would be earning much more at Feyenoord than he would here. No chance imo
Hibbyradge
16-05-2023, 10:39 AM
Got to hope this new DoF can pull a rabbit or eleven out of the hat
Did an ok job at Celtic by all accounts
Big summer ahead
Oh and a decent goalkeeper please one that can catch and kick a ball preferably
There's nothing wrong with Marshall's distribution with either feet or hands, and I'm not sure what's wrong with his catching.
I don't think for one minute that we'll be contemplating changing our keeper. Marshall is more than good enough.
bingo70
16-05-2023, 10:44 AM
There's nothing wrong with Marshall's distribution with either feet or hands, and I'm not sure what's wrong with his catching.
I don't think for one minute that we'll be contemplating changing our keeper. Marshall is more than good enough.
Have to say I was a bit confused by Billy’s post as well.
I think there’s question marks over his agility and shot stopping, his handling and distribution are excellent though.
With Marshall’s age, we will need a back up to him and any back up signed should be done with a view to challenging him.
Iain G
16-05-2023, 10:50 AM
Fair enough. I reckon he is a massive problem tbh. I can’t recall many goalies costing us so many goals over a season and it’s likely to get worse. Think he’s at about 7 or 8 where they vary between should have done better to really poor. Quite a few of them have came in pretty big games as well and his stats in terms of shots faced/goals conceded is really poor.
Simon Brown, Zibi, Ollie the Basketballer, Graeme Smith, Simon Brown (deserves two mentions)...
Hibbyradge
16-05-2023, 10:52 AM
Have to say I was a bit confused by Billy’s post as well.
I think there’s question marks over his agility and shot stopping, his handling and distribution are excellent though.
With Marshall’s age, we will need a back up to him and any back up signed should be done with a view to challenging him.
I wish there was a reel showing Marshall's saves this season. Is there one? He's won us many more points than even his biggest critics could say he cost.
Hibbyradge
16-05-2023, 10:59 AM
Simon Brown, Zibi, Ollie the Basketballer, Graeme Smith, Simon Brown (deserves two mentions)...
Ma-Kalamby?
bingo70
16-05-2023, 11:07 AM
I wish there was a reel showing Marshall's saves this season. Is there one? He's won us many more points than even his biggest critics could say he cost.
I’m not sure there would be a particularly good video there if I’m honest.
I’m not meaning to argue for arguments sake, loosely speaking I agree with you, for the most part I think he’s been absolutely fine. I do think there’s signs in terms of his mobility and agility that his body is slowing down a bit and there have been a number of mistakes.
Marshall and Johnstone are our only two keepers just now, Johnstone needs to go on loan to play first team football every week so there’s absolutely no question we need another goalie, I think the only debate to be had is if we go for an experienced one that will likely be expensive (and not needed IMO) or whether we try and find a cheaper one that won’t have the same proven credentials.
Paulie Walnuts
16-05-2023, 11:08 AM
Simon Brown, Zibi, Ollie the Basketballer, Graeme Smith, Simon Brown (deserves two mentions)...
All poor goalies. Did they make that many more than 7 or 8 errors in a season though? I’m not convinced they did.
Paulie Walnuts
16-05-2023, 11:12 AM
Got to assume he would be earning much more at Feyenoord than he would here. No chance imo
He likely will be but that contract is up this summer so is largely irrelevant.
BILLYHIBS
16-05-2023, 11:14 AM
Have to say I was a bit confused by Billy’s post as well.
I think there’s question marks over his agility and shot stopping, his handling and distribution are excellent though.
With Marshall’s age, we will need a back up to him and any back up signed should be done with a view to challenging him.
Sorry for any confusion I was probably thinking more of Rocky 😀
It has to be said that after watching Marsh for a year now his distribution is not as good as it initially was and I recall a couple of shots that he had covered and crept over the line or through his legs
As others have said maybes starting to show his age and needs stiff competition for the position if not replaced by a better younger model imho
EGL2000
16-05-2023, 11:31 AM
I totally disagree. He wasn't at our level and deservedly didn't get a game. Played well for some tiny club in Portugal after us and now plays in Canada. It's not as if the MLS is a good standard, as we saw with Mueller. I think if we signed Gauld now, he'd be punted within a year and we made the right decision in not signing him permanently.
Also agree thought he was poor, never get all these people moaning he doesn't get into Scotland squads.
jeffers
16-05-2023, 11:38 AM
Unless we can move Marshall on can’t see us bringing in a first choice keeper. Thought he looked a great signing in the beginning, excellent with the ball at his feet but as the season went on he made quite a few really bad mistakes.
.Sean.
16-05-2023, 11:46 AM
If Marciano was in any way available and or interested that would be a no brainer IMO
badabing67
16-05-2023, 12:03 PM
If Marciano was in any way available and or interested that would be a no brainer IMO
2 Rocky's in the building!!! Could we fit both of them into one song or would they just have to have one each?
JimBHibees
16-05-2023, 12:10 PM
He likely will be but that contract is up this summer so is largely irrelevant.
Not if that is his baseline now. Personally don’t see a huge issue with Marshall think in the main he has been decent a few mistakes aside. Other areas of the pitch much more if a priority
Just_Jimmy
16-05-2023, 12:13 PM
Rather stick with Marshall and focus resources in a place where we need to spend them.Rocky would be a massive upgrade on Marshall based on Marshalls performances this season.
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Shrekko
16-05-2023, 12:26 PM
I wish there was a reel showing Marshall's saves this season. Is there one? He's won us many more points than even his biggest critics could say he cost.
I wish there was a such a reel too- would be easy to make it if your claims were accurate would it not?
I'm honestly amazed you believe that as I can't think of any points he's won us. Closest would be the 2nd half in Perth recently but he'd already let an easy one slip past him in the first half.
Even on Saturday when he was virtually redundant he still managed to make a couple of really weak punches where he should have easily held the crosses.
Garymcl
16-05-2023, 12:28 PM
Would love Rocky back only to meet his missus again :greengrin
Paulie Walnuts
16-05-2023, 12:28 PM
Not if that is his baseline now. Personally don’t see a huge issue with Marshall think in the main he has been decent a few mistakes aside. Other areas of the pitch much more if a priority
Yeah but someone has to be willing to match it. The vast majority of times I’d suspect a player who doesn’t manage to make an appearance the previous season won’t be able to negotiate the same amount of money at his current club or elsewhere for that matter, especially when they’re nearly 34. He’ll likely have to take a paycut imo and that could potentially bring him into our price range.
If he’s available then it’s a no brainer imo. Vastly superior keeper to Marshall.
Iain G
16-05-2023, 12:49 PM
Yeah but someone has to be willing to match it. The vast majority of times I’d suspect a player who doesn’t manage to make an appearance the previous season won’t be able to negotiate the same amount of money at his current club or elsewhere for that matter, especially when they’re nearly 34. He’ll likely have to take a paycut imo and that could potentially bring him into our price range.
If he’s available then it’s a no brainer imo. Vastly superior keeper to Marshall.
His distribution is considerably worse than Marshall though and that is important to how LJ wants us to play. See Brighton right now and how well Steele has done to start attacks from the back since he came in.
Since90+2
16-05-2023, 12:49 PM
Marshall will be our number 1 next season. Far more pressing areas of the pitch to focus on.
GreenPJ
16-05-2023, 12:50 PM
Marshall is a good keeper. He has made mistakes and he has also saved us points. What Marshall does need is competition. I know the young keeper is highly rated but don’t believe he is ready to step up to be a serious challenger at this stage. Am sure competition would help Marshall
Paulie Walnuts
16-05-2023, 12:51 PM
His distribution is considerably worse than Marshall though and that is important to how LJ wants us to play. See Brighton right now and how well Steele has done to start attacks from the back since he came in.
Earlier on in the season I’d have agreed. Not so much now though, his distribution has actually cost us goals and we’ve had a few lucky escapes due to it the last few months.
Iain G
16-05-2023, 01:21 PM
Earlier on in the season I’d have agreed. Not so much now though, his distribution has actually cost us goals and we’ve had a few lucky escapes due to it the last few months.
Better than shanking it out of play all the time, did wonder if Marciano had his boots on the wrong feet at times, or just was a big fan of Jim Leighton 😁
Paulie Walnuts
16-05-2023, 01:40 PM
Better than shanking it out of play all the time, did wonder if Marciano had his boots on the wrong feet at times, or just was a big fan of Jim Leighton 😁
Losing goals is better than shanking it out of play?
That’s a bizarre take.
Since90+2
16-05-2023, 02:03 PM
Marciano was a good keeper, but I suspect he's become even better in the minds of some since he left.
He's probably a slight upgrade on Marshall at the respective points in their careers, but we'll have a limited budget and a centre half and the middle of the park are a far higher priority.
Stevie Reid
16-05-2023, 02:18 PM
Marshall has been absolutely fine IMO. I did think he would be better - and he has cost us some goals this season - but I find the idea that he's been anything approaching poor to be a pretty bizarre one. Prior to Ben Williams' signing we seemed to have a litany of terrible keepers stretching across many years. Since him we seem to have had a decent run of goalkeepers ranging from solid to very good - Marshall is in the middle of that range, IMO.
The only way that I'd class him as a disappointment is in the context of hoping that he might be our version of Craig Gordon or Allan McGregor (prior to the last couple of seasons). He definitely hasn't reached the peak of performance that those two did later in their careers, but I find it hard to imagine that having a different goalkeeper would have seen us in a much stronger position right now.
Trying to actually think of errors that have cost us points/a result. The one at Parkhead was when we conceded six, the two derby ones were last minute when we were 2-0 in injury time. Let in a shocker in the 1-1 draw at Perth, but tbf he made a few excellent saves to keep the point after we equalised. Motherwell at home was probably the worst - gave away a crazy pen and then let in Van Veen's weak effort and poor free kick at his side.
That is quite a list of errors all the same, regardless of whether they truly cost us or not - but he's never given me the jitters like guys like Brown (both), Zibby, Makalamby, Smith and many others did anytime a simple catch needed to be made, or a ball was played in behind us.
We definitely can get a better goalkeeper, it's just how much of the budget it would necessitate, and whether that would be well spent versus priorities elsewhere. I could live with him having another season like this one if it meant giving Johnstone a season on loan elsewhere with a view to him being number one. We will still need another keeper for backup in that scenario - best we could probably hope for would be someone with a similar background to Jon McLaughlin when Hearts signed him.
Donegal Hibby
16-05-2023, 02:18 PM
On the subject of goalkeepers has anyone heard if the polish keeper is still at us ?
Paulie Walnuts
16-05-2023, 02:21 PM
Marciano was a good keeper, but I suspect he's become even better in the minds of some since he left.
He's probably a slight upgrade on Marshall at the respective points in their careers, but we'll have a limited budget and a centre half and the middle of the park are a far higher priority.
Not at all. Plenty people appreciated how good he was when he was here.
Funnily enough there’s people on the threads where it’s been suggested we should bring him back who have made out like he was nothing better than average who were posting completely different when he was here on this thread:
https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?339136-Ofir-Marciano
If anything I’d suggest the revisionism is coming from the ‘he’s no that good’ camp.
Stevie Reid
16-05-2023, 02:24 PM
Marciano was a good keeper, but I suspect he's become even better in the minds of some since he left.
He's probably a slight upgrade on Marshall at the respective points in their careers, but we'll have a limited budget and a centre half and the middle of the park are a far higher priority.
I think there is some truth in that, and I really like Marciano, and he undoubtedly made some superb saves. I remember previously digging up a thread about him that someone had started when we drew 2-2 at home to Motherwell soon after we were promoted under Lennon. He'd been with us over a season at that point (albeit was injured a fair bit), and there were many on that thread who were unconvinced and wanted him dropped.
EDIT: only took me a minute to find it:
https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?324586-Rocky&highlight=marciano
Stevie Reid
16-05-2023, 02:27 PM
On the subject of goalkeepers has anyone heard if the polish keeper is still at us ?
Dabrowski? Went on loan for the remainder of his contract, so effectively released.
JimBHibees
16-05-2023, 02:27 PM
Yeah but someone has to be willing to match it. The vast majority of times I’d suspect a player who doesn’t manage to make an appearance the previous season won’t be able to negotiate the same amount of money at his current club or elsewhere for that matter, especially when they’re nearly 34. He’ll likely have to take a paycut imo and that could potentially bring him into our price range.
If he’s available then it’s a no brainer imo. Vastly superior keeper to Marshall.
Not sure he is vastly superior at all
JimBHibees
16-05-2023, 02:29 PM
Marciano was a good keeper, but I suspect he's become even better in the minds of some since he left.
He's probably a slight upgrade on Marshall at the respective points in their careers, but we'll have a limited budget and a centre half and the middle of the park are a far higher priority.
Yes kind of where i am. Definitely need another goalie capable of competing that is for sure.
JimBHibees
16-05-2023, 02:30 PM
Yeah but someone has to be willing to match it. The vast majority of times I’d suspect a player who doesn’t manage to make an appearance the previous season won’t be able to negotiate the same amount of money at his current club or elsewhere for that matter, especially when they’re nearly 34. He’ll likely have to take a paycut imo and that could potentially bring him into our price range.
If he’s available then it’s a no brainer imo. Vastly superior keeper to Marshall.
Fair points
CapitalGreen
16-05-2023, 02:30 PM
Dabrowski? Went on loan for the remainder of his contract, so effectively released.
The relation of Artur Borac we had on trial. Presumably away home now.
Stevie Reid
16-05-2023, 02:31 PM
The relation of Artur Borac we had on trial. Presumably away home now.
Ah, I see - forgot about that.
Hibbyradge
16-05-2023, 03:13 PM
I wish there was a such a reel too- would be easy to make it if your claims were accurate would it not?
Not for me, it wouldn't be.
Crab apple
16-05-2023, 03:28 PM
Marshall has been absolutely fine IMO. I did think he would be better - and he has cost us some goals this season - but I find the idea that he's been anything approaching poor to be a pretty bizarre one. Prior to Ben Williams' signing we seemed to have a litany of terrible keepers stretching across many years. Since him we seem to have had a decent run of goalkeepers ranging from solid to very good - Marshall is in the middle of that range, IMO.
The only way that I'd class him as a disappointment is in the context of hoping that he might be our version of Craig Gordon or Allan McGregor (prior to the last couple of seasons). He definitely hasn't reached the peak of performance that those two did later in their careers, but I find it hard to imagine that having a different goalkeeper would have seen us in a much stronger position right now.
Trying to actually think of errors that have cost us points/a result. The one at Parkhead was when we conceded six, the two derby ones were last minute when we were 2-0 in injury time. Let in a shocker in the 1-1 draw at Perth, but tbf he made a few excellent saves to keep the point after we equalised. Motherwell at home was probably the worst - gave away a crazy pen and then let in Van Veen's weak effort and poor free kick at his side.
That is quite a list of errors all the same, regardless of whether they truly cost us or not - but he's never given me the jitters like guys like Brown (both), Zibby, Makalamby, Smith and many others did anytime a simple catch needed to be made, or a ball was played in behind us.
We definitely can get a better goalkeeper, it's just how much of the budget it would necessitate, and whether that would be well spent versus priorities elsewhere. I could live with him having another season like this one if it meant giving Johnstone a season on loan elsewhere with a view to him being number one. We will still need another keeper for backup in that scenario - best we could probably hope for would be someone with a similar background to Jon McLaughlin when Hearts signed him.
Add Oli the (so called) goalie to your list of nightmare keepers. Him and Zibby were amongst the worst for me but I still feel that there was something really wrong with Smith's performances particularly in the Motherwell 6-6 game. We've generally had okay keepers in recent years but here's hoping we can do even better and get a Rough, Leighton or Goram.
Smartie
16-05-2023, 03:42 PM
Marshall has been absolutely fine IMO. I did think he would be better - and he has cost us some goals this season - but I find the idea that he's been anything approaching poor to be a pretty bizarre one. Prior to Ben Williams' signing we seemed to have a litany of terrible keepers stretching across many years. Since him we seem to have had a decent run of goalkeepers ranging from solid to very good - Marshall is in the middle of that range, IMO.
The only way that I'd class him as a disappointment is in the context of hoping that he might be our version of Craig Gordon or Allan McGregor (prior to the last couple of seasons). He definitely hasn't reached the peak of performance that those two did later in their careers, but I find it hard to imagine that having a different goalkeeper would have seen us in a much stronger position right now.
Trying to actually think of errors that have cost us points/a result. The one at Parkhead was when we conceded six, the two derby ones were last minute when we were 2-0 in injury time. Let in a shocker in the 1-1 draw at Perth, but tbf he made a few excellent saves to keep the point after we equalised. Motherwell at home was probably the worst - gave away a crazy pen and then let in Van Veen's weak effort and poor free kick at his side.
That is quite a list of errors all the same, regardless of whether they truly cost us or not - but he's never given me the jitters like guys like Brown (both), Zibby, Makalamby, Smith and many others did anytime a simple catch needed to be made, or a ball was played in behind us.
We definitely can get a better goalkeeper, it's just how much of the budget it would necessitate, and whether that would be well spent versus priorities elsewhere. I could live with him having another season like this one if it meant giving Johnstone a season on loan elsewhere with a view to him being number one. We will still need another keeper for backup in that scenario - best we could probably hope for would be someone with a similar background to Jon McLaughlin when Hearts signed him.
I’d tend to agree with this.
Marshall strikes me as a good player who had a dodgy couple of months of form (a bit like Paul Hanlon) rather than a poor player who is capable of having decent moments.
Certainly not a position I’d be prioritising.
I’d actually be happy to keep Dabrowski as an understudy and send Johnson out on loan.
Steven79
16-05-2023, 03:50 PM
I’d tend to agree with this.
Marshall strikes me as a good player who had a dodgy couple of months of form (a bit like Paul Hanlon) rather than a poor player who is capable of having decent moments.
Certainly not a position I’d be prioritising.
I’d actually be happy to keep Dabrowski as an understudy and send Johnson out on loan.Isn't he leaving when his contract expires this summer?
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Donegal Hibby
16-05-2023, 03:55 PM
Dabrowski? Went on loan for the remainder of his contract, so effectively released.
We had another polish keeper at us , think he was Arthur Boruc nephew. Hadn't heard anything about him , maybe he's away ?
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hibs-hand-artur-borucs-cousin-29562564
Iain G
16-05-2023, 04:11 PM
Losing goals is better than shanking it out of play?
That’s a bizarre take.
Marciano let in goals as well you know, he seems to have turned into the love child of Hope Solo and Lev Yashin since he left!
Paulie Walnuts
16-05-2023, 04:51 PM
Marciano let in goals as well you know, he seems to have turned into the love child of Hope Solo and Lev Yashin since he left!
He did. However over the course of his 4 or 5 seasons here he was probably culpable for around as many as Marshall has been this season alone. That’s the difference.
Smartie
16-05-2023, 05:00 PM
Isn't he leaving when his contract expires this summer?
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Supposedly so, but if he was prepared to be an understudy I’d be keen to retain him.
Johnson’s a great prospect but needs to get out on loan and play.
He’s the natural successor to Marshall imo but not yet.
Unseen work
16-05-2023, 05:00 PM
He did. However over the course of his 4 or 5 seasons here he was probably culpable for around as many as Marshall has been this season alone. That’s the difference.
Marciano 100% had shots he should have saved, often from trying to predict too early where it was going or trying to make it a ‘camera save’ as he often tried to use opposite arm to what you’d expect to save it.
I remember him being done at his near post on quite a few occasions and then obviously the poor distribution.
Still a very good keeper and on his day a brilliant shot stopper.
But he’s probably another that’s getting better the longer he’s away, I’m sure I read a couple of opinions on here that weren’t too positive in the season or 2 before he left
04Sauzee
16-05-2023, 05:01 PM
Murray Johnson going on loan to QOTS next season
Unseen work
16-05-2023, 05:02 PM
Murray Johnson joining QOTS next season on loan.
Confirmed by Hibs
Billy Whizz
16-05-2023, 05:02 PM
Murray Johnson going on loan to QOTS next season
Interesting, he needs to play, but I’d have thought we’d have wanted him at a higher level
Wonder where Dabrowski is going
cameronw-hfc
16-05-2023, 05:03 PM
Have to say I was a bit confused by Billy’s post as well.
I think there’s question marks over his agility and shot stopping, his handling and distribution are excellent though.
With Marshall’s age, we will need a back up to him and any back up signed should be done with a view to challenging him.
He doesn't rate Marciano, that will most likely be the reason behind the post, not aimed at Marshall.
Iain G
16-05-2023, 05:05 PM
He did. However over the course of his 4 or 5 seasons here he was probably culpable for around as many as Marshall has been this season alone. That’s the difference.
Doubt its that low!
cameronw-hfc
16-05-2023, 05:06 PM
Marciano 100% had shots he should have saved, often from trying to predict too early where it was going or trying to make it a ‘camera save’ as he often tried to use opposite arm to what you’d expect to save it.
I remember him being done at his near post on quite a few occasions and then obviously the poor distribution.
Still a very good keeper and on his day a brilliant shot stopper.
But he’s probably another that’s getting better the longer he’s away, I’m sure I read a couple of opinions on here that weren’t too positive in the season or 2 before he left
Not sure Rocky cost us many whilst going with the wrong hand, and being beaten at you're near post in itself isn't a mistake, I don't remember the exact goals but would need to see.
Rocky also had games where absolutely nothing was getting past him, Marshall hasn't done that.
Unseen work
16-05-2023, 05:16 PM
Not sure Rocky cost us many whilst going with the wrong hand, and being beaten at you're near post in itself isn't a mistake, I don't remember the exact goals but would need to see.
Rocky also had games where absolutely nothing was getting past him, Marshall hasn't done that.
Depends how you look at it, some are ridiculously harsh in their criticism of Marshall imo to the point they’re saying he should have came out from his goal earlier etc.
Marshall has definitely pulled off some brilliant saves since he came though, Ofir was here much longer though so will always have more saves in the mind.
I just can’t see us going for him because of his distribution and age.
Donegal Hibby
16-05-2023, 05:22 PM
We will be getting a keeper now .
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/murray-johnson-to-join-queen-of-the-south-on-loan
Marciano 100% had shots he should have saved, often from trying to predict too early where it was going or trying to make it a ‘camera save’ as he often tried to use opposite arm to what you’d expect to save it.
I remember him being done at his near post on quite a few occasions and then obviously the poor distribution.
Still a very good keeper and on his day a brilliant shot stopper.
But he’s probably another that’s getting better the longer he’s away, I’m sure I read a couple of opinions on here that weren’t too positive in the season or 2 before he left
Agreed ! Rocky was so outstanding he was dropped for both Bogdan and Chris Maxwell! I can think of several howlers off the top of my head, the cup semi against Aberdeen, The Morelos near post goal when he dived the wrong way, did same against St J and of course the The Rangers goal when he was dispossessed in the box. Rocky was, mostly, an excellent shot stopper but his distribution was atrocious and that's a huge negative in the modern game. It's impossible to quantify the impact of us losing possession at the feet of Rocky but I remember another St J game where we had a goal kick in last few seconds of added time. All Rocky had to do was kick it to either wing. Instead he booted it down the middle, 20 yards from the nearest Hibs player. The ball was returned upfield and St J equalised a few seconds later.
This is not meant to sound like an indictment of Rocky, I think he's a decent keeper but I suspect we already have plans for another keeper to challenge Marshall.
Agreed ! Rocky was so outstanding he was dropped for both Bogdan and Chris Maxwell! I can think of several howlers off the top of my head, the cup semi against Aberdeen, The Morelos near post goal when he dived the wrong way, did same against St J and of course the The Rangers goal when he was dispossessed in the box. Rocky was, mostly, an excellent shot stopper but his distribution was atrocious and that's a huge negative in the modern game. It's impossible to quantify the impact of us losing possession at the feet of Rocky but I remember another St J game where we had a goal kick in last few seconds of added time. All Rocky had to do was kick it to either wing. Instead he booted it down the middle, 20 yards from the nearest Hibs player. The ball was returned upfield and St J equalised a few seconds later.
This is not meant to sound like an indictment of Rocky, I think he's a decent keeper but I suspect we already have plans for another keeper to challenge Marshall.
Both made mistakes but whilst I think Rocky was super for us I thinking Adam Bogdan was better.
Tyler Durden
16-05-2023, 06:17 PM
Interesting, he needs to play, but I’d have thought we’d have wanted him at a higher level
Wonder where Dabrowski is going
He seems like a good prospect but I’m not sure there’s a queue of Championship teams wanting to start a 19 year old goalie every week
QOTS seems a good move. They should be going for that league next season
Billy Whizz
16-05-2023, 06:19 PM
He seems like a good prospect but I’m not sure there’s a queue of Championship teams wanting to start a 19 year old goalie every week
QOTS seems a good move. They should be going for that league next season
One thing I’ll say is, it’s a very competitive league
Paulie Walnuts
16-05-2023, 06:21 PM
Depends how you look at it, some are ridiculously harsh in their criticism of Marshall imo to the point they’re saying he should have came out from his goal earlier etc.
Marshall has definitely pulled off some brilliant saves since he came though, Ofir was here much longer though so will always have more saves in the mind.
I just can’t see us going for him because of his distribution and age.
It’s not in any way harsh to suggest he should have come off his line against hearts for example. Him dithering around meant there was only ever going to be one outcome and that was a Hearts goal. It was terrible decision making from him.
stokesmessiah
16-05-2023, 07:00 PM
Ma-Kalamby?
I forgot about him. Just googled him and Wiki says he played another 9 seasons after leaving Hibs, playing an astonishing 9 games. Played none before us and 57 while he was here.
MikeyS
16-05-2023, 07:19 PM
I forgot about him. Just googled him and Wiki says he played another 9 seasons after leaving Hibs, playing an astonishing 9 games. Played none before us and 57 while he was here.
There is an absolutely great career to be had as a sub or 3rd choice goalie! Dinnae even have to be good. What a life!
JammyDoidger
16-05-2023, 07:20 PM
Scott Bain anyone?
Vault Boy
16-05-2023, 07:20 PM
Johnson away on loan? That’s Marciano all but confirmed. Won’t be told otherwise. 😤
Vault Boy
16-05-2023, 07:21 PM
Scott Bain anyone?
Has been heavily linked with a move down south IIRC
SaulGoodman
16-05-2023, 07:22 PM
Scott Bain anyone?
Helped us out massively in that second half of the season under Lennon.
BILLYHIBS
16-05-2023, 07:31 PM
Ross McCrorie set for 2m move to Bristol City
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Iain G
16-05-2023, 08:22 PM
Ross McCrorie set for 2m move to Bristol City
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I still have some old rope I need to sell, anyone got the phone number for Bristol City?
cameronw-hfc
16-05-2023, 09:19 PM
Depends how you look at it, some are ridiculously harsh in their criticism of Marshall imo to the point they’re saying he should have came out from his goal earlier etc.
Marshall has definitely pulled off some brilliant saves since he came though, Ofir was here much longer though so will always have more saves in the mind.
I just can’t see us going for him because of his distribution and age.
Saying you should come off your line isn't harsh, it's something I teach the kids at GK training at 9yo.
If Marshall wasn't a scotland Hero he would not have the support he currently does, lowest save rate in the league, not one save Marshall has made this season Rocmy doesn't. Rocky could win us points, Marshall has cost us some.
Macey wad slated on here for making less mistakes but also not saving much. Imagine Macey made the errors Marshall had done this year? There would be riots 😂.
Rocky made a handful of mistakes over 5 years, Marshall has made a handful of mistakes in the last 5 months
Stokesy's on fire
16-05-2023, 09:44 PM
Ross McCrorie set for 2m move to Bristol City
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That's a good deal for Aberdeen the boy is awful
FitbaFolkKen
16-05-2023, 09:51 PM
I really liked Bogdan, I think had he stayed injury free he would be the keeper we would be looking back fondly on.
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CentreForward
16-05-2023, 10:24 PM
I really liked Bogdan, I think had he stayed injury free he would be the keeper we would be looking back fondly on.
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Agreed! Excellent goalie, liked him a lot!
jacomo
16-05-2023, 10:57 PM
I really liked Bogdan, I think had he stayed injury free he would be the keeper we would be looking back fondly on.
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I look back fondly on Rocky. I liked Bogdan too. Very rare for us to have 2 very good keepers on the books at the same time.
Donegal Hibby
17-05-2023, 12:04 AM
Marshall is a good keeper imo and yes he has made a few mistakes though most keepers do at times and being a keeper they are probably more scrutinized for a mistake than a outfield player . He has also had some good saves and I think his distribution is good .
The problem with Marshall for me is he's not really had anyone pushing or challenging him for the number 1 jersey . I think most players need that . Hopefully with our young keeper going on loan we will get someone in to push him for the jersey which I think might help .
Gmack7
17-05-2023, 05:50 AM
That's a good deal for Aberdeen the boy is awful
It's a good deal but he's far from awful.
On saying that Aberdeen have managed to get top dollar recently for Cosgrove Ramsay Mckenna and now McCrorie
JimBHibees
17-05-2023, 05:53 AM
Marshall is a good keeper imo and yes he has made a few mistakes though most keepers do at times and being a keeper they are probably more scrutinized for a mistake than a outfield player . He has also had some good saves and I think his distribution is good .
The problem with Marshall for me is he's not really had anyone pushing or challenging him for the number 1 jersey . I think most players need that . Hopefully with our young keeper going on loan we will get someone in to push him for the jersey which I think might help .
Agree with that. Get someone in capable of competing. Think he has been fine this season a few mistakes apart. His distribution is generally excellent. Some of the critique too harsh imo.
PHeffernan
17-05-2023, 06:16 AM
That's a good deal for Aberdeen the boy is awful
No he's not
Paulie Walnuts
17-05-2023, 06:53 AM
Saying you should come off your line isn't harsh, it's something I teach the kids at GK training at 9yo.
If Marshall wasn't a scotland Hero he would not have the support he currently does, lowest save rate in the league, not one save Marshall has made this season Rocmy doesn't. Rocky could win us points, Marshall has cost us some.
Macey wad slated on here for making less mistakes but also not saving much. Imagine Macey made the errors Marshall had done this year? There would be riots 😂.
Rocky made a handful of mistakes over 5 years, Marshall has made a handful of mistakes in the last 5 months
:agree:
Steven79
17-05-2023, 07:51 AM
Ross McCrorie set for 2m move to Bristol City
Express SportNice profit we could have made on him.
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Smartie
17-05-2023, 09:14 AM
There are a couple of goalies / GK coaches on here (and who have posted on Marshall over the past few pages) who I tend to listen to closely when it comes to the GK position and whose opinions I tend to hold in high regard. Interestingly they were quite critical of Marshall from early on and they've maintained that criticism (and during the very ropey spell he seemed to be having a month or two back, appearing to be very much justified).
It does feel a bit weird to be disagreeing with people who I acknowledge know more about the subject than me, but I do. I guess it's all about opinions and we'll all have opinions on what we see based on our own experiences.
Hibbyradge
17-05-2023, 09:26 AM
https://www.facebook.com/HibernianFootballClubOfficial/videos/601013591388838/?sfnsn=scwspmo
https://fb.watch/kAlFg45WCM/
Just a couple to give you a nice warm, gooey feeling. 😊
jacomo
17-05-2023, 10:01 AM
That's a good deal for Aberdeen the boy is awful
Need to get over the fact we missed out on him pal.
Stevie Reid
17-05-2023, 11:20 AM
Saying you should come off your line isn't harsh, it's something I teach the kids at GK training at 9yo.
If Marshall wasn't a scotland Hero he would not have the support he currently does, lowest save rate in the league, not one save Marshall has made this season Rocmy doesn't. Rocky could win us points, Marshall has cost us some.
Macey wad slated on here for making less mistakes but also not saving much. Imagine Macey made the errors Marshall had done this year? There would be riots 😂.
Rocky made a handful of mistakes over 5 years, Marshall has made a handful of mistakes in the last 5 months
Rocky was a very good goalkeeper for us, he made many excellent saves and definitely won us number of points - but he definitely cost us some as well, and certainly made more than a handful of mistakes in five years. I shared a thread earlier in the post from just over a year into his career where there were many casting serious aspersions on him, and he was dropped for a bit by every manager that he played for IIRC.
He's definitely up there in the second tier of the best goalkeepers we have had bar Goram and Leighton (in my time watching Hibs - Rough was on the wane in my childhood), but like many good goalkeepers he still let in soft goals and made a few mistakes over the course of a season.
I think you may have a point about Macey, I defended him quite a lot on here last year as I felt he got an undue hard time from many (in fact, I think I initially unearthed the aforementioned Rocky thread to show that goalkeepers who were initially unconvincing to many, can go on to become very highly thought of) - but I don't think we're any worse off for having Marshall over Macey (though I appreciate that Marshall was supposed to be an upgrade).
As I mentioned in an earlier post, Marshall definitely hasn't been as good as I thought he would be, but I don't think another keeper would have had us in a much stronger position this season.
Torto7
17-05-2023, 12:52 PM
Ross McCrorie set for 2m move to Bristol City
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So we shouldn't be selling Nisbet for the pathetic sum we accepted in the last window.
Billy Whizz
17-05-2023, 01:02 PM
So we shouldn't be selling Nisbet for the pathetic sum we accepted in the last window.
He’s under contact until 2026, so he’ll command a decent fee
Bad Habits
17-05-2023, 01:30 PM
He’s under contact until 2026, so he’ll command a decent fee
2024 no? Back end of next season.
Brightside
17-05-2023, 01:31 PM
2024 no? Back end of next season.
Think he was talking about Ross M
Bad Habits
17-05-2023, 02:33 PM
Think he was talking about Ross M
Ah yeah! Makes sense
Billy Whizz
17-05-2023, 02:39 PM
Think he was talking about Ross M
I am thanks
Tambo
17-05-2023, 06:02 PM
Rangers releasing a few youth and B team players, Those players are Tony Weston, Charlie Lindsay, Lewis Mackinnon, Alex Kpapke, Kelsey Ewen, Harley Ewen and Kevin Ciubotaru.
Amid the uncertainty around their futures it looks like at least one of those groups will have options to consider early and that is Lindsay who reportedly has interest from clubs in the English Football League. Specifically, according to Football League World, Championship play-off semi finalists Sunderland and League One side Derby County are ‘keeping an eye’ on the attacking midfielder.
Lindsay, a Northern Ireland youth international, is said to be keen to explore opportunities for first team football. Rangers signed Lindsay from Glentoran in 2020 but he has yet to make a senior appearance for the Gers. Instead he has featured heavily for the B Team in the Lowland League making 40 appearances and scoring 14 goals.
Don't know if he would bring anything more than our current young players or if he would get into our first team now.
Just throwing a name out there.
Unseen work
17-05-2023, 07:48 PM
https://twitter.com/dabrowsky1/status/1658890446326702086?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw
Couple of great saves from Dabrowski, also a couple he got a bit lucky with from being a bit dramatic.
Wish him all the best this summer and onwards, think he could still play in the top flight.
Look at Dundee Uniteds keepers this season, he’d have done far better than them
Smartie
17-05-2023, 08:04 PM
Rangers releasing a few youth and B team players, Those players are Tony Weston, Charlie Lindsay, Lewis Mackinnon, Alex Kpapke, Kelsey Ewen, Harley Ewen and Kevin Ciubotaru.
Amid the uncertainty around their futures it looks like at least one of those groups will have options to consider early and that is Lindsay who reportedly has interest from clubs in the English Football League. Specifically, according to Football League World, Championship play-off semi finalists Sunderland and League One side Derby County are ‘keeping an eye’ on the attacking midfielder.
Lindsay, a Northern Ireland youth international, is said to be keen to explore opportunities for first team football. Rangers signed Lindsay from Glentoran in 2020 but he has yet to make a senior appearance for the Gers. Instead he has featured heavily for the B Team in the Lowland League making 40 appearances and scoring 14 goals.
Don't know if he would bring anything more than our current young players or if he would get into our first team now.
Just throwing a name out there.
Previously I’ve been quite open to the idea of cast offs from Glasgow being potentially good signings but the last couple - McLelland and Henderson - have both been quite a bit short of what we might have expected.
If we were to take any of these players we might need to be mindful of the fact that if they’re miles off the first team squad and being punted from the club, they might also be a bit short of being Hibs’ first team standard.
For now, anyway.
cameronw-hfc
17-05-2023, 09:37 PM
Rocky was a very good goalkeeper for us, he made many excellent saves and definitely won us number of points - but he definitely cost us some as well, and certainly made more than a handful of mistakes in five years. I shared a thread earlier in the post from just over a year into his career where there were many casting serious aspersions on him, and he was dropped for a bit by every manager that he played for IIRC.
He's definitely up there in the second tier of the best goalkeepers we have had bar Goram and Leighton (in my time watching Hibs - Rough was on the wane in my childhood), but like many good goalkeepers he still let in soft goals and made a few mistakes over the course of a season.
I think you may have a point about Macey, I defended him quite a lot on here last year as I felt he got an undue hard time from many (in fact, I think I initially unearthed the aforementioned Rocky thread to show that goalkeepers who were initially unconvincing to many, can go on to become very highly thought of) - but I don't think we're any worse off for having Marshall over Macey (though I appreciate that Marshall was supposed to be an upgrade).
As I mentioned in an earlier post, Marshall definitely hasn't been as good as I thought he would be, but I don't think another keeper would have had us in a much stronger position this season.
I agree with a lot of your post tbf mate. I may have said on here Marshall has been shocking, I admit that's probably an exaggeration but it's more down to what youbsaid, he was supposed to be an upgrade and I don't feel he's been any better/worse, kicking aside.
It might be due to my bias as a keeper myself but from the minute Rocky joined Hibs, I loved him. I love DM but posted early in the season that he didn't seem to be saving much, and given I'm in my twenties, as a you g keeper growing up watching Scotland it was Marshall I wanted to be like. I couldn't take to Gordon or Mcgregor as a Hibby, so I think for me to be critiquing Marshall so heavily it shows how disappointing he's been.
I think 5 years ago Marshall is 2x the keeper Marciano is/was, but this version of Marshall seems to be ageing quite quickly. It's startling to me just how slow he gets down and how slow he can be to react.
From my semi-educated stance, I don't think DM is finished. I think he's lost a step and is in that year where he's noticing it himself and hasn't quite adapted to it yet. For context a bit like Lewis a few years ago when people were calling for a new LB due to Lewis slowing down, I think he's been outstanding recently but it's because he's adapted to his older age and plays slightly different now.
Marshall I think can still have another 2 or so years at the top, but he needs to learn as an older keeper what he can and can't do. The hearts 3rd goal is the perfect example, he started to come, hesitated, then came again. I think 5 years ago he comes for it and gets there, now, I think he comes halfway, realises he's nowhere near it, then changes his mind and imo its down to his age and needing to learn where he's still good and where he maybe doesn't have that yard of pace or reaction time he did a few years back.
If were talking technical ability, ie, catching, positioning etc, he's still very solid. Physical ability seems to have gone down a bit and it's almost like he's noticed that, but hasn't figured out how to combat it.
I may only be mid 20s but Rocky is the best I've seen at ER between the sticks by quite some margin. If he could kick a ball he'd have been at a much, much higher level. Rocky made saves that left me head in hands quote often. The one vs Dundee was it? Low into the bottom corner infront of the south stand is one of the hardest and most impressive saves I've ever seen at ER(Boruc vs Spoony being probably the best I've seen).
Stevie Reid
17-05-2023, 10:02 PM
I agree with a lot of your post tbf mate. I may have said on here Marshall has been shocking, I admit that's probably an exaggeration but it's more down to what youbsaid, he was supposed to be an upgrade and I don't feel he's been any better/worse, kicking aside.
It might be due to my bias as a keeper myself but from the minute Rocky joined Hibs, I loved him. I love DM but posted early in the season that he didn't seem to be saving much, and given I'm in my twenties, as a you g keeper growing up watching Scotland it was Marshall I wanted to be like. I couldn't take to Gordon or Mcgregor as a Hibby, so I think for me to be critiquing Marshall so heavily it shows how disappointing he's been.
I think 5 years ago Marshall is 2x the keeper Marciano is/was, but this version of Marshall seems to be ageing quite quickly. It's startling to me just how slow he gets down and how slow he can be to react.
From my semi-educated stance, I don't think DM is finished. I think he's lost a step and is in that year where he's noticing it himself and hasn't quite adapted to it yet. For context a bit like Lewis a few years ago when people were calling for a new LB due to Lewis slowing down, I think he's been outstanding recently but it's because he's adapted to his older age and plays slightly different now.
Marshall I think can still have another 2 or so years at the top, but he needs to learn as an older keeper what he can and can't do. The hearts 3rd goal is the perfect example, he started to come, hesitated, then came again. I think 5 years ago he comes for it and gets there, now, I think he comes halfway, realises he's nowhere near it, then changes his mind and imo its down to his age and needing to learn where he's still good and where he maybe doesn't have that yard of pace or reaction time he did a few years back.
If were talking technical ability, ie, catching, positioning etc, he's still very solid. Physical ability seems to have gone down a bit and it's almost like he's noticed that, but hasn't figured out how to combat it.
I may only be mid 20s but Rocky is the best I've seen at ER between the sticks by quite some margin. If he could kick a ball he'd have been at a much, much higher level. Rocky made saves that left me head in hands quote often. The one vs Dundee was it? Low into the bottom corner infront of the south stand is one of the hardest and most impressive saves I've ever seen at ER(Boruc vs Spoony being probably the best I've seen).
I was in the East when Boruc made that save, was right behind the Wotherspoon shot and had the perfect view of it - thought it was in all the way. Didn’t even seem possible to save it, was incredible. Think it denied us a point on the day as well.
Agree with your assessment of DM above - by far the most critical I have been of him this season was those two Hearts goals where his indecision gifted two soft goals to turn bad defeats into proper doings.
Rocky was certainly very good for us overall, and a showreel of his best saves would be quite something.
EDIT - there’s (poor quality) footage of the Boruc save on this video. His starting position does seem rather strange but it only serves to make the save even more unbelievable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd9JuDN1P_8
ian cruise
17-05-2023, 10:07 PM
Previously I’ve been quite open to the idea of cast offs from Glasgow being potentially good signings but the last couple - McLelland and Henderson - have both been quite a bit short of what we might have expected.
If we were to take any of these players we might need to be mindful of the fact that if they’re miles off the first team squad and being punted from the club, they might also be a bit short of being Hibs’ first team standard.
For now, anyway.
Way too soon to judge McLelland. Suspect he'll play a role next season, albeit as cover and from the bench, he was signed as one for the future.
Henderson has had his opportunities, and unfortunately he's not been consistent enough. Agree his time may be up.
McGruber
17-05-2023, 10:53 PM
https://twitter.com/dabrowsky1/status/1658890446326702086?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw
Couple of great saves from Dabrowski, also a couple he got a bit lucky with from being a bit dramatic.
Wish him all the best this summer and onwards, think he could still play in the top flight.
Look at Dundee Uniteds keepers this season, he’d have done far better than them
There are some seriously good saves in that reel - some that Marshall wouldn't have got to. Like you say, some overly dramatic moments too. He seemed to have a bit of a nervy/excitable/immature (in a football sense) demeanour in games and you felt a bit unsure when he had decisions to make or ball at feet. In terms of shot stopping ability though he is excellent and very agile. Really liked him, hope he finds a good club
1875Sean
17-05-2023, 11:02 PM
Way too soon to judge McLelland. Suspect he'll play a role next season, albeit as cover and from the bench, he was signed as one for the future.
Henderson has had his opportunities, and unfortunately he's not been consistent enough. Agree his time may be up.
Based on what? The guy struggled to get a game at cove
California-Hibs
18-05-2023, 12:58 AM
Livis Joel Nouble signing for us? I know the source isn't the best, but I was listening to this week's episode of The Big Scottish Football Podcast and Ewan Cameron firmly like it was already done, confirmed Nouble will be a Hibs player in the summer. The host Steven Mill also chimed in with a yep like he also knew it was done.
Again, not the greatest of source of course, but has anyone else heard anything with that one? If true I'm not totally sure how I feel. Sure he's a big handful and a powerhouse but I don't think he's great with the ball at his feet and his scoring record isn't exactly brilliant....
Vault Boy
18-05-2023, 01:22 AM
Livis Joel Nouble signing for us? I know the source isn't the best, but I was listening to this week's episode of The Big Scottish Football Podcast and Ewan Cameron firmly like it was already done, confirmed Nouble will be a Hibs player in the summer. The host Steven Mill also chimed in with a yep like he also knew it was done.
Again, not the greatest of source of course, but has anyone else heard anything with that one? If true I'm not totally sure how I feel. Sure he's a big handful and a powerhouse but I don't think he's great with the ball at his feet and his scoring record isn't exactly brilliant....
I suppose we’re planning for life without Nisbet, Myko, and perhaps even McKirdy, which would mean we’re in definite need for more depth in the forward area.
As an affordable squad option/opportunity to mix things up tactically, I can make some sense of it. Not sure I rate him that highly, but he’s shown glimpses of real quality at times. Just as likely to miss a sitter as to cannon in a belter.
bingo70
18-05-2023, 05:58 AM
I suppose we’re planning for life without Nisbet, Myko, and perhaps even McKirdy, which would mean we’re in definite need for more depth in the forward area.
As an affordable squad option/opportunity to mix things up tactically, I can make some sense of it. Not sure I rate him that highly, but he’s shown glimpses of real quality at times. Just as likely to miss a sitter as to cannon in a belter.
Exactly what I think.
Never been as big a fan of him as some people are but if he wasn’t costing a lot of money, he’d be a good option to bring off the bench to mix things up a bit and be a bit of a nuisance. Wouldn’t want him to replace Nisbet as our main striker but it’s a squad game now and not every signing can be a first pick.
Winston Ingram
18-05-2023, 06:37 AM
Helped us out massively in that second half of the season under Lennon.
In what way? He signed on loan in Jan 18 and left after 3 weeks without playing a game
Winston Ingram
18-05-2023, 06:38 AM
Based on what? The guy struggled to get a game at cove
Their fans couldn't stand him and was so bad they cancelled his loan early.
In what way? He signed on loan in Jan 18 and left after 3 weeks without playing a game
We got Allan on loan due to him.
EGL2000
18-05-2023, 07:17 AM
Exactly what I think.
Never been as big a fan of him as some people are but if he wasn’t costing a lot of money, he’d be a good option to bring off the bench to mix things up a bit and be a bit of a nuisance. Wouldn’t want him to replace Nisbet as our main striker but it’s a squad game now and not every signing can be a first pick.
He'd at least command some sort of fee, renewed his contract a couple weeks back. I wouldn't imagine livi would let him got for less than 200k. Whenever I have watched him I think he looks a really poor footballer, but has scored goals. Better options out there if we are having to pay a fee.
Livis Joel Nouble signing for us? I know the source isn't the best, but I was listening to this week's episode of The Big Scottish Football Podcast and Ewan Cameron firmly like it was already done, confirmed Nouble will be a Hibs player in the summer. The host Steven Mill also chimed in with a yep like he also knew it was done.
Again, not the greatest of source of course, but has anyone else heard anything with that one? If true I'm not totally sure how I feel. Sure he's a big handful and a powerhouse but I don't think he's great with the ball at his feet and his scoring record isn't exactly brilliant....
He's actually decent with the ball at his feet. The biggest problem is he doesn't have the pace to take advantage of it. Gives us a different option though.
leithsansiro
18-05-2023, 07:35 AM
Exactly what I think.
Never been as big a fan of him as some people are but if he wasn’t costing a lot of money, he’d be a good option to bring off the bench to mix things up a bit and be a bit of a nuisance. Wouldn’t want him to replace Nisbet as our main striker but it’s a squad game now and not every signing can be a first pick.
If we're taking a punt, I'd rather it was on Akinyemi from Ayr Utd. He's not played in the top flight, but his pedigree prior to this season actually is better than Nouble and he looks like a more rounded footballer the times I've seen him. Nouble looks a handful and would probably be a bit hit or miss, but I suspect he'd quickly fall into the James Collins category of strikers for Hibs...
Winston Ingram
18-05-2023, 07:39 AM
We got Allan on loan due to him.
Got ye
Heisenberg
18-05-2023, 07:41 AM
I’d rather keep Doidge as an option off the bench than sign Nouble.
BoltonHibee
18-05-2023, 07:50 AM
If we're taking a punt, I'd rather it was on Akinyemi from Ayr Utd. He's not played in the top flight, but his pedigree prior to this season actually is better than Nouble and he looks like a more rounded footballer the times I've seen him. Nouble looks a handful and would probably be a bit hit or miss, but I suspect he'd quickly fall into the James Collins category of strikers for Hibs...
I think he’s hit his ceiling as far as the level he plays at goes.
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Hibernian Verse
18-05-2023, 07:54 AM
I’d rather keep Doidge as an option off the bench than sign Nouble.
Nouble is much more mobile and has good feet. Doidge is on the wind down now.
Donegal Hibby
18-05-2023, 08:38 AM
I’d rather keep Doidge as an option off the bench than sign Nouble.
So would I . Would be seriously disappointed if Nouble is a signing target. Very unlike the sort of player LJ would be wanting as well imo .
Smartie
18-05-2023, 08:40 AM
Nouble's given some decent defenders some very uncomfortable afternoons this season.
I'd have no problem with this.
500miles
18-05-2023, 08:50 AM
Given the space guys like Boyle and Youan would get with Nouble wrestling with defenders, he might fit our best XI perfectly.
Individually he might not be a superstar, but a great team is more than the sum of its parts.
The Modfather
18-05-2023, 08:52 AM
Nouble would be a good signing as back up. More sensible than the money we have spent on Tavares, McKirdy & Melkerson. He’d be a far better option than Doidge in 2023 IMO, probably a lot better value for money as well.
04Sauzee
18-05-2023, 08:59 AM
Martindale was saying a few weeks ago it would cost any club who wanted Nouble £1m, but he has also been saying repeatedly that they are having to reduce their budget so can see them letting Nouble go this summer.
I haven't seen any of the media mention Nouble to Hibs
Unseen work
18-05-2023, 09:10 AM
I think Nouble is a good player, far better on the ball than he gets credit for due to his size and physicality.
Can play through the middle or off the left, makes defenders defend and is good at linking the play. Works really hard too.
He’s the sort of player if we’re struggling we can put it forward and into a channel and he can protect it and take us 40 yards further up the pitch similar to Duk at Aberdeen.
Question is would he score enough goals, he’s not prolific for Livi but with Boyle and Youan next to him you’d imagine that would change. Think he was scoring alot more this season until his injury.
If the fee was right, I’d be happy with him as one of our options. Martindale keeps saying how skint Livi are so hopefully he wouldn’t cost too much - Si Ferry was saying we’re signing Fitzpatrick from them too so interesting if there’s truth in either of them
Stevie Reid
18-05-2023, 09:15 AM
I’d be very pleased with Nouble. A proven handful at this level, and even if he doesn’t have a massive goal return, he’d be able to bring Boyle and Youan into play very effectively.
Stuart93
18-05-2023, 09:44 AM
I’d be happy if Nouble was coming in as back up, move Doidge on
HFC93
18-05-2023, 09:52 AM
I’d rather keep Doidge as an option off the bench than sign Nouble.
Good joke.
Onceinawhile
18-05-2023, 09:59 AM
Livis Joel Nouble signing for us? I know the source isn't the best, but I was listening to this week's episode of The Big Scottish Football Podcast and Ewan Cameron firmly like it was already done, confirmed Nouble will be a Hibs player in the summer. The host Steven Mill also chimed in with a yep like he also knew it was done.
Again, not the greatest of source of course, but has anyone else heard anything with that one? If true I'm not totally sure how I feel. Sure he's a big handful and a powerhouse but I don't think he's great with the ball at his feet and his scoring record isn't exactly brilliant....
I play 5s with his next door neighbour, I'll see if he knows anything.
We're trying to get Joel to join our game during the summer, but can't imagine it happens!
Since452
18-05-2023, 10:07 AM
I'd be very disappointed if Nouble is signing. More a Hearts type player. Don't rate him at all. Poor, limited player in a poor Livi team. Surely we can do better than that?
I'd be very disappointed if Nouble is signing. More a Hearts type player. Don't rate him at all. Poor, limited player in a poor Livi team. Surely we can do better than that?
I think he would a fair bit to our squad. On his day I think he is almost unplayable and has given our defenders sleepless nights. He has a style that may initially make us think it’s all physical but he is quick and has great feet. I would not be comfortable as him being only main striker but along with another main striker signing I think he would contribute.
SHODAN
18-05-2023, 10:18 AM
Nouble's the exact kind of player we need with Doidge on the way down.
Also, if we don't sign him then he's guaranteed to score against us for the Hertz in the derby.
blackpoolhibs
18-05-2023, 10:20 AM
Paul Hanlon would be over the moon if this is true.
Torto7
18-05-2023, 10:37 AM
Ewan Cameron? Does he have any previous itk's? All I know is he's a slavering Jambo fud.
Hibby Kay-Yay
18-05-2023, 10:41 AM
He’d be a bit like Mixu. Not that mobile but a real handful and would create opportunities for the pacey Youan and Boyle.
Smartie
18-05-2023, 10:42 AM
Paul Hanlon would be over the moon if this is true.
Getting ragdolled by him every day in training might be the end of Hanlon.
Hibernian Verse
18-05-2023, 10:45 AM
He’d be a bit like Mixu. Not that mobile but a real handful and would create opportunities for the pacey Youan and Boyle.
Nouble is very mobile, it's just because he's a big lump that he doesn't always look it.
Donegal Hibby
18-05-2023, 10:50 AM
I'd be very disappointed if Nouble is signing. More a Hearts type player. Don't rate him at all. Poor, limited player in a poor Livi team. Surely we can do better than that?
Totally agree . He has very little skill imo and is just a big battering ram that puts himself about with a extremely poor goalscoring record. Don't rate him either and we definitely could do better . Much rather try and sign Mykola tbh .
Brightside
18-05-2023, 11:04 AM
Getting ragdolled by him every day in training might be the end of Hanlon.
Nobody has ever Ragdolled Sir Paul Hanlon.
Smartie
18-05-2023, 11:08 AM
Nobody has ever Ragdolled Sir Paul Hanlon.
I'm a fan of Hanlon but he did have a very uncomfortable afternoon (or two) against Nouble this season.
That was mainly who I was referring to when I was keen on the idea of this transfer due to him having given some decent defenders some tough games. Hanlon and Souttar spring to mind, he gave Souttar nightmares at Livingston.
Fergus52
18-05-2023, 11:11 AM
Going on this thread nouble is big, strong, fast, excellent at dribbling, with quality link up play.
Amazing how an all round striker like that with zero weaknesses has managed to spend the majority of his career playing non-league, must have really been slipping under the radar.
BILLYHIBS
18-05-2023, 11:15 AM
Showreel here quite tricky and nimble for a big lump can see him linking up well with Boyle and Youan
https://youtu.be/DnlFIjNAbbI
Smartie
18-05-2023, 11:16 AM
Going on this thread nouble is big, strong, fast, excellent at dribbling, with quality link up play.
Amazing how an all round striker like that with zero weaknesses has managed to spend the majority of his career playing non-league, must have really been slipping under the radar.
Sometimes you just get players who suit certain leagues and clubs though, and can earn themselves other opportunities as a result.
What were van Veen's credentials before joining Motherwell?
Did Higdon not end up having a superb season at Motherwell after being fairly inconspicuous prior to that?
Is it not more significant that he's just had a very good season at our level rather than anything that happened before that?
Shrekko
18-05-2023, 11:18 AM
Going on this thread nouble is big, strong, fast, excellent at dribbling, with quality link up play.
Amazing how an all round striker like that with zero weaknesses has managed to spend the majority of his career playing non-league, must have really been slipping under the radar.
If you're being sarcastic (I'm not totally sure), there are plenty examples of very good players going under the radar for long periods in their careers.
He has looked a good player in the games I've seen him in - it isn't surprising however, as usual, that he's being labelled p*** by some on here already.
Most successful Scottish clubs have had big strong strikers in their ranks. Does my head in when we don't have a player who can hold it up effectively, so this move would get the thumbs up from me.
Since452
18-05-2023, 11:25 AM
Sometimes you just get players who suit certain leagues and clubs though, and can earn themselves other opportunities as a result.
What were van Veen's credentials before joining Motherwell?
Did Higdon not end up having a superb season at Motherwell after being fairly inconspicuous prior to that?
Is it not more significant that he's just had a very good season at our level rather than anything that happened before that?
The boy JET was twice the player Nouble was at Livi. Went to a bigger club in Aberdeen and bombed. Nouble is a big battering ram who Hanlon struggled against but big physical strikers have always been Hanlons weak point. In my humble opinion he's nowhere near Hibs standard. It's like when Omeonga has a decent game against us and there's calls to sign him again. They're at Livi for a reason.
HFC93
18-05-2023, 11:35 AM
Ewen Cameron is a slaver so likely nothing in it. Our previous game against Livi was the first time I've seen Nouble up close and he actually has great feet. He would free up so much space for Youan and Boyle. Folk describing him as a battering ram are way off the mark IMO.
bingo70
18-05-2023, 11:35 AM
The boy JET was twice the player Nouble was at Livi. Went to a bigger club in Aberdeen and bombed. Nouble is a big battering ram who Hanlon struggled against but big physical strikers have always been Hanlons weak point. In my humble opinion he's nowhere near Hibs standard.
In what way was he twice the player?
I always thought the boy JET looked horrendous for Livingston every time I saw him. I’m no expert on Nouble but I’ve always thought he looked annoyingly effective for a big huddie.
Since452
18-05-2023, 11:38 AM
In what way was he twice the player?
I always thought the boy JET looked horrendous for Livingston every time I saw him. I’m no expert on Nouble but I’ve always thought he looked annoyingly effective for a big huddie.
Scored some absolutely cracking goals. Also had a much better career than Nouble.
Going on this thread nouble is big, strong, fast, excellent at dribbling, with quality link up play.
Amazing how an all round striker like that with zero weaknesses has managed to spend the majority of his career playing non-league, must have really been slipping under the radar.
He is also slow, poor with ball at his feet and very mobile.
JimBHibees
18-05-2023, 12:12 PM
Ewan Cameron? Does he have any previous itk's? All I know is he's a slavering Jambo fud.
Kind of what I was thinking.
Brightside
18-05-2023, 12:50 PM
I'm a fan of Hanlon but he did have a very uncomfortable afternoon (or two) against Nouble this season.
That was mainly who I was referring to when I was keen on the idea of this transfer due to him having given some decent defenders some tough games. Hanlon and Souttar spring to mind, he gave Souttar nightmares at Livingston.
I know - I'm just doing my de-facto defence. :greengrin:thumbsup:
Paulie Walnuts
18-05-2023, 01:10 PM
The boy JET was twice the player Nouble was at Livi. Went to a bigger club in Aberdeen and bombed. Nouble is a big battering ram who Hanlon struggled against but big physical strikers have always been Hanlons weak point. In my humble opinion he's nowhere near Hibs standard. It's like when Omeonga has a decent game against us and there's calls to sign him again. They're at Livi for a reason.
Noubles scored more league goals than JET did at Livi and also has alot more to his game than goals. It doesn’t really stand up to much scrutiny that JET was twice the player at Livi as Nouble is.
Billy Whizz
18-05-2023, 01:45 PM
Noubles scored more league goals than JET did at Livi and also has alot more to his game than goals. It doesn’t really stand up to much scrutiny that JET was twice the player at Livi as Nouble is.
Josh Campbell has scored more League goals than Nouble this season!
Just saying like. If he’s coming to Hibs and we lose KN, we’ll need someone more prolific as a starter
04Sauzee
18-05-2023, 01:49 PM
Josh Campbell has scored more League goals than Nouble this season!
Just saying like. If he’s coming to Hibs and we lose KN, we’ll need someone more prolific as a starter
Would Campbell have scored the same number of goals with Livingston? Just asking 😁
Doubt there is even anything in the Nouble talk to be honest.
Oscar T Grouch
18-05-2023, 02:01 PM
Aye nae skill, just a big battering ram eh! :rolleyes: The boy can play football, has a subtle touch about him. With good service from our wingers I reckon he'd bang in a few goals for us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnlFIjNAbbI
seanshow
18-05-2023, 02:13 PM
He has 2 International caps for Cascadia.
If anybody new that without googling it, take a bow as a footballing encyclopaedia :greengrin
..not me
Fuzzywuzzy
18-05-2023, 02:16 PM
JET is also now playing in India (or was)
Donegal Hibby
18-05-2023, 02:26 PM
Ewen Cameron is a slaver so likely nothing in it. Our previous game against Livi was the first time I've seen Nouble up close and he actually has great feet. He would free up so much space for Youan and Boyle. Folk describing him as a battering ram are way off the mark IMO.
Players like Youan and Boyle don't need space freed up , they create there own out wide with there pace and skill . What they also do imo is draw defenders to double up on them which creates space for a goalscorer , they also will set chances up for a goalscorer.
We are almost certainly losing Nisbet in the summer who knows how to score goals and to replace him with one that has a extremely poor goalscoring record wouldn't be a great move imo . When Nisbet goes we are going to have to find a striker that will get us double figures in goals . Nouble won't .
Apart from his goal against us I don't think he caused us all that many problems in the game we won 4-1 . When I called him a battering ram his strengths are he's big physical and puts himself about ( doesn't score much) . Wouldn't be against having him as a squad player though I think Martindale put a high price on him and even if he was £200,000 or £300,000 I think he'd be overpriced at that and I'd hope we would set our sights abit higher than nouble tbh .
Brightside
18-05-2023, 02:41 PM
I'm sure our new DoF will be looking a little further afield than Livi. Well at least I hope so.
I'm sure our new DoF will be looking a little further afield than Livi. Well at least I hope so.
Given our most valued player in recent years came from St Mirren & our current most valuable ones came from Dundee & Dunfermline, we can be really snobby. If they make the right kind of impact, it really doesn't matter where they are from.
JammyDoidger
18-05-2023, 03:55 PM
Get Nouble in, different option and it would be interesting to see if it would help Boyle and Youan as he is a handful the boy. Still want a proven goalscorer if nisbet leaves right enough. Wouldn't be banking on Nouble as a starter.
I'm sure our new DoF will be looking a little further afield than Livi. Well at least I hope so.
Motherwell. 🤔
ian cruise
18-05-2023, 04:00 PM
Based on what? The guy struggled to get a game at cove
I was sure I'd read he was doing well for the Dev team but I've just gone through the whole thread from April to now and there's nothing of the sort in there so I must have imagined it!
Ewen Cameron is a slaver so likely nothing in it. Our previous game against Livi was the first time I've seen Nouble up close and he actually has great feet. He would free up so much space for Youan and Boyle. Folk describing him as a battering ram are way off the mark IMO.
He is indeed a Jambo slaver. I listened to it at the beginning of the week and thought he's probably guessing so didn't even bother posting it here. It barely gets a mention but it's at 20 minutes in, if anybody wants to listen.
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9yc3MucG9kcGxheXN0dWRpby5jb20vMTM0NC54bW w/episode/NWU2YzIyODViYmUzYTU2ZmQ0NjcxNjI5NDgyOWM1Y2Q?ep=14
Donegal Hibby
18-05-2023, 04:38 PM
He is indeed a Jambo slaver. I listened to it at the beginning of the week and thought he's probably guessing so didn't even bother posting it here. It barely gets a mention but it's at 20 minutes in, if anybody wants to listen.
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9yc3MucG9kcGxheXN0dWRpby5jb20vMTM0NC54bW w/episode/NWU2YzIyODViYmUzYTU2ZmQ0NjcxNjI5NDgyOWM1Y2Q?ep=14
Thanks for that , I know now who Cameron is and he talks a load of ***** . I'm quite happy as I now think the nouble rumour is probably rubbish. Some record Livingston have at the minute , lost 8 out of there last 11 fixtures and not scored in 7 of them , wonder is nouble injured ?
NORTHERNHIBBY
18-05-2023, 05:25 PM
I'm sure our new DoF will be looking a little further afield than Livi. Well at least I hope so.
Nothing wrong with trying to model ourselves on being the best club in Scotland for young Scottish talent to be at for the next step up.
Brightside
18-05-2023, 06:10 PM
Given our most valued player in recent years came from St Mirren & our current most valuable ones came from Dundee & Dunfermline, we can be really snobby. If they make the right kind of impact, it really doesn't matter where they are from.
Then that’s fine. Looks like we have already sourced the new signings and Brian can get himself away on a nice summer holiday. 😂. I’ll personally be disappointed if we sign either nouble or van veen. I’m hoping for an unearthed gem.
Since90+2
18-05-2023, 06:45 PM
Given our most valued player in recent years came from St Mirren & our current most valuable ones came from Dundee & Dunfermline, we can be really snobby. If they make the right kind of impact, it really doesn't matter where they are from.
Exactly.
cameronw-hfc
18-05-2023, 07:14 PM
Then that’s fine. Looks like we have already sourced the new signings and Brian can get himself away on a nice summer holiday. 😂. I’ll personally be disappointed if we sign either nouble or van veen. I’m hoping for an unearthed gem.
Better scouting doesn't always mean unearthed gems though. Sometimes it means just making more logical signings. We've been trying to unearth gems for years now (I hope we continue btw), but it's also nice to see us back in the Scottish market.
Ideally we sign the best of the rest in the league that celtic and rangers don't want, then fill the gaps with a few gems.
Donegal Hibby
18-05-2023, 08:06 PM
Aye nae skill, just a big battering ram eh! :rolleyes: The boy can play football, has a subtle touch about him. With good service from our wingers I reckon he'd bang in a few goals for us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnlFIjNAbbI
I remember just before we signed James Collins I watched his utube video and thought wow what a player. Most players look good when you make a compilation of there best bits but it doesn't actually give you a balanced view about the player.
Livingston signed him in 2021 and immediately loaned him out to Arbroath which is only 2 years ago . I wouldn't be against signing him as a squad player though he's never first team material imo and I don't think he'd be worth it for what Livingston would want for him and we could spend the money more wisely.
Even with good service from our winger's I'd doubt he would be banging in a few goals as he's never been a prolific goal scorer most of his career which has been mainly at team's like the mighty ' Haringey Burrough , Gray's Athletic or Concord rangers. He's also coming 28 now and hitting his peak .I think we should be aiming for a better quality of player tbh with you 👍
Iain G
18-05-2023, 08:14 PM
Surely we need better than Nouble?
jeffers
18-05-2023, 08:35 PM
Surely we need better than Nouble?
Assuming Hoppe goes back I think Nouble would be a decent replacement for him. I’d be hoping for someone better to replace Nisbet though.
wookie70
18-05-2023, 08:44 PM
I can't see Nouble coming in as he hasn't long signed for Livi so the value will have went up. For me he would be a useful squad player who may well get a start more times than not. Decent feet for a big guy and much more mobile and quicker than Doidge and I would argue stronger at holding off defenders too. He has scored some cracking goals in a team that doesn't create a huge number of chances. The big question is could he be a regular scorer in a team and has he teh energy to do a high press along with Boyle and Youan. Nisbet will be a bit like McGinn leaving. We won't be able to do a direct replacement and may need to spend the profits of two or three players to give us a team alternative to scoring goals rather than a like for like replacement.
brydekirk
18-05-2023, 09:14 PM
I’d be happy if Nouble was coming in as back up, move Doidge on
Swap 😁
Could Cameron be saying he’s coming to Hibs so that if he signs for Hearts they can say they snatched him away from us?? Just a thought
Could Cameron be saying he’s coming to Hibs so that if he signs for Hearts they can say they snatched him away from us?? Just a thought
I wouldn't put it past him. They said there were strong rumours about it. If there really were strong rumours then they'd have made it onto here. Not buying it until we get something more concrete, such as some random boy on Twitter saying it's happening. 😃
Hibbyradge
18-05-2023, 09:59 PM
Could Cameron be saying he’s coming to Hibs so that if he signs for Hearts they can say they snatched him away from us?? Just a thought
It's nonsense.
Cameron's just having a laugh to see how many Hibbies he can catch.
Childish behaviour.
PatHead
18-05-2023, 10:40 PM
I wouldn't put it past him. They said there were strong rumours about it. If there really were strong rumours then they'd have made it onto here. Not buying it until we get something more concrete, such as some random boy on Twitter saying it's happening. 😃
Heard a boy on the 26 who had overheard a guy who had been in the fish shop queue on his way to Gregg's. He reckons we are signing the Sowomni brothers and Johan Cruyff's laddie.
Has to come up sometime this summer so might as well be now.
Haymaker
19-05-2023, 01:10 AM
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erin go bragh
19-05-2023, 05:58 AM
Then that’s fine. Looks like we have already sourced the new signings and Brian can get himself away on a nice summer holiday. 😂. I’ll personally be disappointed if we sign either nouble or van veen. I’m hoping for an unearthed gem.
Van Veen would be a great signing for us imo
Nouble would be more of a risk but the guy has a bit class in the games I’ve seen him play.
Since452
19-05-2023, 06:38 AM
Given our most valued player in recent years came from St Mirren & our current most valuable ones came from Dundee & Dunfermline, we can be really snobby. If they make the right kind of impact, it really doesn't matter where they are from.
Those were exciting young players. Nouble is a journeyman.
JohnM1875
19-05-2023, 06:38 AM
Those were exciting young players. Nouble is a journeyman.
And pish.
Those were exciting young players. Nouble is a journeyman.
Squirrel had just been on loan at Montrose as he was out of favour at Dundee. Nizzy didn't succeed at the Jags and played for Raith & Dunfermline, sometimes players just click later, Vardy was non-league, it's what they can offer now.
GreenGray
19-05-2023, 07:31 AM
I’d rather keep Doidge as an option off the bench than sign Nouble.
Surely not? Nouble is miles ahead of Doidge now, who can barely run
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And pish.
There was enough "experts" on here saying Shankland was piss, doesn't score in the top division, etc. If he comes in, I'd prefer to keep an open mind, we have had too many, perceived, world beaters, who have turned out to be anything but.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBxireWPRBk&ab_channel=LivingstonFootballClub
Had he had scored this goal for us, rather than against, I don't think we would have been so critical!
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