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Stuart93
21-06-2023, 03:43 PM
They usually do. More often than not, they're utter *****.

Yea that’s fair enough, a lot of them came good last season and secured European group stages though so, I’d take that

Tbh I just want us in a better place squad wise in time for Europe/Q3 if we make it past Q2.

I don’t want a Darren McGregor starting away to Rejika scenario which ultimately, imo, cost us the tie

It would be good to be almost fully ready for it, minus 1 or 2 still to come in

MWHIBBIES
21-06-2023, 03:45 PM
Yea that’s fair enough, a lot of them came good last season and secured European group stages though so, I’d take that

Tbh I just want us in a better place squad wise in time for Europe/Q3 if we make it past Q2.

I don’t want a Darren McGregor starting away to Rejika scenario which ultimately, imo, cost us the tie

It would be good to be almost fully ready for it, minus 1 or 2 still to come in

You're spot on. If we aren't prepare this time, the whole recruitment team can go.

04Sauzee
21-06-2023, 03:46 PM
Ellis Simms wanted by 3 clubs including Ipswich the article didn't mention which other 2 teams were in for him

Sunderland and Stoke being reported

HendoDelivered
21-06-2023, 03:55 PM
Would be funny if we signed Idzes now 🤣

big gogs
21-06-2023, 04:03 PM
Would be funny if we signed Idzes now 🤣
I wonder if hibs have outbid Aberdeen wages wise,though the player must have an alternative.

Stuart93
21-06-2023, 04:54 PM
You're spot on. If we aren't prepare this time, the whole recruitment team can go.

Hoping B McD has it in hand

Dmas
21-06-2023, 05:16 PM
Have we got fish signed up? my worry is the sheep get him in now they’ve pulled out with this Dutch guy

Brightside
21-06-2023, 05:35 PM
GK: Marshall / Boruc*

RB: Miller / TBC* [Cadden Inj]
CB: Fish* / TBC*
CB: Hanlon / Rocky
LB: TBC* / Stevenson

DM: Jeggo / Kenneh
CM: Newell / JDH
CM: TBC* / Campbell

RW: Boyle / McKirdy
LW: Youan / Mackay
CF: TBC* / ALF / Melkerson

Out (Perm or Loan) Doidge, Tavares, Henderson, Hauge, Delfierre, Tait, MacIntyre

5 names to find for me, would take Myko as the CF, and Egan-Riely as the CB/RB

Is Oscar out on loan? Did I miss that? Also Megwa will be the other RB unless he has went out on loan too.

04Sauzee
21-06-2023, 05:44 PM
Kilmarnock sign Matty Kennedy

Unseen work
21-06-2023, 05:46 PM
Kilmarnock sign Matty Kennedy

That’s a great signing for them.

Him and a fit (I know) Magennis make them a massively better side.

Cocaine&Caviar
21-06-2023, 06:06 PM
Is Oscar out on loan? Did I miss that? Also Megwa will be the other RB unless he has went out on loan too.

Nah, these just what i would go for

1875Sean
21-06-2023, 06:16 PM
GK: Marshall / Boruc*

RB: Miller / TBC* [Cadden Inj]
CB: Fish* / TBC*
CB: Hanlon / Rocky
LB: TBC* / Stevenson

DM: Jeggo / Kenneh
CM: Newell / JDH
CM: TBC* / Campbell

RW: Boyle / McKirdy
LW: Youan / Mackay
CF: TBC* / ALF / Melkerson

Out (Perm or Loan) Doidge, Tavares, Henderson, Hauge, Delfierre, Tait, MacIntyre

5 names to find for me, would take Myko as the CF, and Egan-Riely as the CB/RB

Get rid of McKirdy and MacKay and that looks good

FifeHibs
21-06-2023, 06:29 PM
Get rid of McKirdy and MacKay and that looks good

Kenneh won’t be around next season

JammyDoidger
21-06-2023, 06:33 PM
GK: Marshall / Boruc*

RB: Miller / TBC* [Cadden Inj]
CB: Fish* / TBC*
CB: Hanlon / Rocky
LB: TBC* / Stevenson

DM: Jeggo / Kenneh
CM: Newell / JDH
CM: TBC* / Campbell

RW: Boyle / McKirdy
LW: Youan / Mackay
CF: TBC* / ALF / Melkerson

Out (Perm or Loan) Doidge, Tavares, Henderson, Hauge, Delfierre, Tait, MacIntyre

5 names to find for me, would take Myko as the CF, and Egan-Riely as the CB/RB

The 5 names would need to be **** hot, as that squads mid table. Signings have to be of real quality now to take us forward.

Unseen work
21-06-2023, 06:35 PM
Kenneh won’t be around next season

Where you hearing that and why?

Ability or because of his alleged fall out with Johnson?

Supposedly he’s a high earner too

Tambo
21-06-2023, 06:40 PM
Probably the best move for all parties concerning Magennis, which will now free up more wage space with a few more still to move on.

A bit quiet on the rumour front this week, would hope we can get most of it done within the next few weeks.

Alex Trager
21-06-2023, 06:45 PM
The 5 names would need to be **** hot, as that squads mid table. Signings have to be of real quality now to take us forward.

Strongly agree. A lot of work needing done in terms of incomings. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

LaMotta
21-06-2023, 06:53 PM
GK: Marshall / Boruc*

RB: Miller / TBC* [Cadden Inj]
CB: Fish* / TBC*
CB: Hanlon / Rocky
LB: TBC* / Stevenson

DM: Jeggo / Kenneh
CM: Newell / JDH
CM: TBC* / Campbell

RW: Boyle / McKirdy
LW: Youan / Mackay
CF: TBC* / ALF / Melkerson

Out (Perm or Loan) Doidge, Tavares, Henderson, Hauge, Delfierre, Tait, MacIntyre

5 names to find for me, would take Myko as the CF, and Egan-Riely as the CB/RB

We need far better than Jeggo and Kenneh if we want to kick on.

Hibee Mac
21-06-2023, 06:54 PM
GK: Marshall / Boruc*

RB: Miller / TBC* [Cadden Inj]
CB: Fish* / TBC*
CB: Hanlon / Rocky
LB: TBC* / Stevenson

DM: Jeggo / Kenneh
CM: Newell / JDH
CM: TBC* / Campbell

RW: Boyle / McKirdy
LW: Youan / Mackay
CF: TBC* / ALF / Melkerson

Out (Perm or Loan) Doidge, Tavares, Henderson, Hauge, Delfierre, Tait, MacIntyre

5 names to find for me, would take Myko as the CF, and Egan-Riely as the CB/RBI'd add Kenneh and McKirdy to your "out" list as well

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500miles
21-06-2023, 06:54 PM
We need far better than Jeggo and Kenneh if we want to kick on.

I love this comment every time we get a defensive mid and our goals against column starts to improve. Been doing it for YEARS.

Allant1981
21-06-2023, 06:55 PM
We need far better than Jeggo and Kenneh if we want to kick on.

Jeggo is ok but I agree we need better, kenneh just isn't very good imo

random sub
21-06-2023, 06:57 PM
Patience is a virtue….discuss

badabing67
21-06-2023, 07:03 PM
Get rid of McKirdy and MacKay and that looks good

I wanna see them in pre-season games

Donegal Hibby
21-06-2023, 07:05 PM
We need far better than Jeggo and Kenneh if we want to kick on.
I'd definitely keep Jeggo tbh . He's definitely made a difference to the team imo .

Unseen work
21-06-2023, 07:06 PM
I love this comment every time we get a defensive mid and our goals against column starts to improve. Been doing it for YEARS.

Genuinely every single time!

Get a ball playing one and we moan he’s not good enough defensively.

Get a good defensive minded one and we moan he’s not good enough on the ball.

At our level, we’ll be doing very well to get someone really good at both.

I like Jeggo and think he gets a tough time. He’s now McGeough on the ball, but he’s comfortable and can pass it about and control the thing, which is more than can be said for Kenneh.

Jeggo also seems to organise us brilliantly and is always right up against the opposition midfield.

Callum_62
21-06-2023, 07:26 PM
Patience is a virtue….discussPiers Plowman - Striker.

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LaMotta
21-06-2023, 07:36 PM
I love this comment every time we get a defensive mid and our goals against column starts to improve. Been doing it for YEARS.


Genuinely every single time!

Get a ball playing one and we moan he’s not good enough defensively.

Get a good defensive minded one and we moan he’s not good enough on the ball.

At our level, we’ll be doing very well to get someone really good at both.

I like Jeggo and think he gets a tough time. He’s now McGeough on the ball, but he’s comfortable and can pass it about and control the thing, which is more than can be said for Kenneh.


Jeggo also seems to organise us brilliantly and is always right up against the opposition midfield.

Not from me its not every single time. The role of a good DM is very important.

We've seen many times before on here though the over exaggeration of performances of average DM's and falsely linking their so called astute performances to any semblance of a good run. See Gary Deegan, Kevin McBride, Gogic. Jeggo the same for me, - some of his performances have been absolutely woeful. He has had some steady performances (never standout ones), but if we have aspirations to be top 3 then its entirely justified to be looking for better IMO as a regular starter.

Also not buying the claim that our goals against column improved dramatically once Jeggo signed. There was a period where we lost less goals, but we played three teams with ten men during that time. We also took several hammerings with Jeggo in the team. The general improvement of the team had way more to do with Nisbet coming back and McGeady too for a short while. We tailed off again after he got injured.

The Modfather
21-06-2023, 07:43 PM
Genuinely every single time!

Get a ball playing one and we moan he’s not good enough defensively.

Get a good defensive minded one and we moan he’s not good enough on the ball.

At our level, we’ll be doing very well to get someone really good at both.

I like Jeggo and think he gets a tough time. He’s now McGeough on the ball, but he’s comfortable and can pass it about and control the thing, which is more than can be said for Kenneh.

Jeggo also seems to organise us brilliantly and is always right up against the opposition midfield.

My general complaint about the midfield for a long time is less about individual players and more about how imbalanced it is. We seem to sign midfielders because they are good individually, but with little thought as to how they compliment what’s already there and make a functioning midfield.

Brightside
21-06-2023, 08:06 PM
I'd definitely keep Jeggo tbh . He's definitely made a difference to the team imo .

I agree with lamotta. We need a 6 who can actually play. Not just a stopper. If Kenneh is actually allowed back into the squad I can see him being developed into a CB for us.

1875Sean
21-06-2023, 08:14 PM
I agree with lamotta. We need a 6 who can actually play. Not just a stopper. If Kenneh is actually allowed back into the squad I can see him being developed into a CB for us.

If he is allowed back in the squad … what’s happened?

Hibby Kay-Yay
21-06-2023, 08:19 PM
If he is allowed back in the squad … what’s happened?

Fall out with LJ and posted on social media. (I believe).

SHODAN
21-06-2023, 08:33 PM
Fall out with LJ and posted on social media. (I believe).

:agree: Posted cringe and lost subscriber

Hibees1973
21-06-2023, 08:41 PM
Still feeling a bit uneasy about the amount of players in the squad we really need to move on to accommodate new ones.

Henderson, McKirdy & Tavares are the first three who come to my mind.

The first two have had ample opportunities to impress but failed and Tavares was hardly seen in the first team so clearly not deemed good enough. All three are a decent age, must be on good wages and weren't signed under this 'development' tag.

Suppose it is early days and they may get loaned out but I'm struggling to think who would want to take any of these three.

Looked at the Hibs website and Ethan Laidlaw is still listed in the development squad. Has he not left?

B.H.F.C
21-06-2023, 08:57 PM
Still feeling a bit uneasy about the amount of players in the squad we really need to move on to accommodate new ones.

Henderson, McKirdy & Tavares are the first three who come to my mind.

The first two have had ample opportunities to impress but failed and Tavares was hardly seen in the first team so clearly not deemed good enough. All three are a decent age, must be on good wages and weren't signed under this 'development' tag.

Suppose it is early days and they may get loaned out but I'm struggling to think who would want to take any of these three.

Looked at the Hibs website and Ethan Laidlaw is still listed in the development squad. Has he not left?

We’re further ahead with getting rid of players than I thought we’d be. Getting Cabraja and Magennis out relatively easily and early is a bonus that I didn’t expect. We made that much of a mess of things with the contracts we handed out in the last couple of years that it’s not a quick fix.

Some incoming players would be welcome, certainly in time for going to Spain.

Donegal Hibby
21-06-2023, 09:13 PM
I agree with lamotta. We need a 6 who can actually play. Not just a stopper. If Kenneh is actually allowed back into the squad I can see him being developed into a CB for us.

I'm quite happy with him only breaking up attacks , that's his job in the team and it's for our other midfielders to do the playing . I have my doubts kenneh will have a future at hibs after his rift with LJ and his hertz comment .

We've got other players in the team that we would be better trying to move on like Henderson and Kenneth possibly rather than one that's been quite good and improved our team imo .

JohnM1875
21-06-2023, 09:50 PM
Absolute shanner of a transfer window so far.

Be gutted if we don't have a signing or two in over the next few days. Class we're getting rid but we also need to replace the duds.

Brightside
21-06-2023, 09:58 PM
I'm quite happy with him only breaking up attacks , that's his job in the team and it's for our other midfielders to do the playing . I have my doubts kenneh will have a future at hibs after his rift with LJ and his hertz comment .

We've got other players in the team that we would be better trying to move on like Henderson and Kenneth possibly rather than one that's been quite good and improved our team imo .

But a 6 doesn’t have to just break up attacks. That’s what others are saying. We can get better. Dylan was never just a stopper. If we improve that no6 we will do better against defensive teams.

HendoDelivered
21-06-2023, 10:03 PM
Absolute shanner of a transfer window so far.

Be gutted if we don't have a signing or two in over the next few days. Class we're getting rid but we also need to replace the duds.


Got to be one of the driest in terms or rumours/news at this stage for many a year… pretty sure we had 3 or 4 in the door by this time last summer.

Doesn’t meaning nothing is happening though 👍🏼

LaMotta
21-06-2023, 10:12 PM
But a 6 doesn’t have to just break up attacks. That’s what others are saying. We can get better. Dylan was never just a stopper. If we improve that no6 we will do better against defensive teams.

:agree::agree::agree:

Unseen work
21-06-2023, 10:25 PM
Absolute shanner of a transfer window so far.

Be gutted if we don't have a signing or two in over the next few days. Class we're getting rid but we also need to replace the duds.

In

Youan
ALF

Out

Nisbet - 2 million
Magennis
McGeady
Cabraja - undisclosed fee
Devlin
CJ - end of loan
Fish - end of loan
Kuhkarevych - end of loan
Dabrowski
Laidlaw - 200k approx
McLellend - loan
O’Connor - loan
Johnson - loan
Megwa - loan
Aiken - loan


Rumours;

Jay Idzes
Morgan Feeney
Boruc
Jamie McGrath
Will Fish

Not that bad for the first week!🤣

JohnM1875
21-06-2023, 10:47 PM
In

Youan
ALF

Out

Nisbet - 2 million
Magennis
McGeady
Cabraja - undisclosed fee
Devlin
CJ - end of loan
Fish - end of loan
Kuhkarevych - end of loan
Dabrowski
Laidlaw - 200k approx
McLellend - loan
O’Connor - loan
Johnson - loan
Megwa - loan
Aiken - loan


Rumours;

Jay Idzes
Morgan Feeney
Boruc
Jamie McGrath
Will Fish

Not that bad for the first week!🤣

I just can't bring myself to count Elie this window regardless if he absolutely is a new permanent signing. So, ALF so far.

I have a Fish shaped hole in my excitement for this transfer window. Get it filled, Hibs!

Donegal Hibby
21-06-2023, 11:03 PM
But a 6 doesn’t have to just break up attacks. That’s what others are saying. We can get better. Dylan was never just a stopper. If we improve that no6 we will do better against defensive teams.

There's nothing wrong imo in having a no 6 that's main focus is breaking attacks up if you have other midfielders that are creative around him . Which we don't and that's been the case since before we signed Jeggo too .

That's where one of our problems has been all last year in we severely lacked creativity and drive from midfield and that's what we should be concentrating on in adding to our squad and not trying to add to the problems in getting rid of a good player that's improved us and is handy to have .

Dylan was a good player for us though must have helped playing in that midfield which was excellent compared to the one we have now . Keep Jeggo and add a couple of creative midfielder's . Problem solved 😉

LaMotta
21-06-2023, 11:16 PM
There's nothing wrong imo in having a no 6 that's main focus is breaking attacks up if you have other midfielders that are creative around him . Which we don't and that's been the case since before we signed Jeggo too .

That's where one of our problems has been all last year in we severely lacked creativity and drive from midfield and that's what we should be concentrating on in adding to our squad and not trying to add to the problems in getting rid of a good player that's improved us and is handy to have .

Dylan was a good player for us though must have helped playing in that midfield which was excellent compared to the one we have now . Keep Jeggo and add a couple of creative midfielder's . Problem solved ��

The evidence doesn't really show that he's particularly great at it though. We lost 4 games in a row with him supposedly breaking up attacks, losing 12 goals in the process. He also is booked frequently, curtailing his effectiveness due to risk of a red.

He has a year on his contract so imagine he will be here, hopefully a backup squad player. Agree with others re Kenneh - he needs to go, I think he will end up playing non league in England somewhere before too long.

ErinGoBraghHFC
21-06-2023, 11:19 PM
I know this probably isn’t the fashionable opinion but I love Jeggo, think he’s a cracking player


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Forza Fred
21-06-2023, 11:42 PM
Still feeling a bit uneasy about the amount of players in the squad we really need to move on to accommodate new ones.

Henderson, McKirdy & Tavares are the first three who come to my mind.

The first two have had ample opportunities to impress but failed and Tavares was hardly seen in the first team so clearly not deemed good enough. All three are a decent age, must be on good wages and weren't signed under this 'development' tag.

Suppose it is early days and they may get loaned out but I'm struggling to think who would want to take any of these three.

Looked at the Hibs website and Ethan Laidlaw is still listed in the development squad. Has he not left?

His contract has expired but he hasn’t signed for anybody yet

Springbank
21-06-2023, 11:50 PM
I know this probably isn’t the fashionable opinion but I love Jeggo, think he’s a cracking player


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I think a player with Jeggo's defensive positional sense helps the likes of Paul Hanlon, as Hanlon could step out of defence with the ball knowing jeggo would instinctively drop back & cover.

I know he's our 11th best passer but I'm OK with that if it frees up more space for Joe Newell etc, and we have pace on both flanks to play with next season, which will change the way teams line up against us

Jeggo gives us added insurance

ErinGoBraghHFC
22-06-2023, 12:13 AM
His contract has expired but he hasn’t signed for anybody yet

I’ve heard he’s signed a new deal with Hibs, need to wait and see if that’s accurate or not though


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neil7908
22-06-2023, 12:23 AM
Patience is a virtue….discuss

Agreed. Still early days but we also need to make sure we are ready for European qualifiers.

We should have enough in the squad as is to get through the first round, although complacency in the League Cup last year came back to bite us.

But we must have the majority of our signings made by the time the next round comes along.

We have worked hard last year to secure European football, celebrated the success of getting here - we have to now take it seriously and make sure we are ready to give it a real go. There is a lot of money on the line and we have a decent chance of reaching the Group stage if we prepare correctly and get a bit of luck.

Europe shouldn't just be seen as a jolly - the club now have a competition where we can actually progress, and preparing for that is absolute no. 1 priority.

Donegal Hibby
22-06-2023, 01:10 AM
The evidence doesn't really show that he's particularly great at it though. We lost 4 games in a row with him supposedly breaking up attacks, losing 12 goals in the process. He also is booked frequently, curtailing his effectiveness due to risk of a red.

He has a year on his contract so imagine he will be here, hopefully a backup squad player. Agree with others re Kenneh - he needs to go, I think he will end up playing non league in England somewhere before too long.
Depends what way you look at the evidence TBH . He's played in 4-1 win at Livvy , 1-0 win hertz , 0-0 away Aberdeen , 4-2 win Celtic and in general since he's signed we have improved. Yes he gets booked , think he's had around 7 or so . Not a bad thing imo to see a player getting stuck in for the team . Wonder how many yellows Henderson has ? . I think he'd rather go back to Australia than play English non league football myself 😂

jeffers
22-06-2023, 03:57 AM
Jeggo is a player we are looking to upgrade.

jakeshibs
22-06-2023, 05:27 AM
I know this probably isn’t the fashionable opinion but I love Jeggo, think he’s a cracking player


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i agree, think he breaks up the play,

MWHIBBIES
22-06-2023, 05:27 AM
i agree, think he breaks up the play,

And not just for the opposition. Could definitely find better imo.

jakeshibs
22-06-2023, 05:29 AM
Jeggo is a player we are looking to upgrade.

JDH is a player we need to upgrade

JimBHibees
22-06-2023, 05:55 AM
But a 6 doesn’t have to just break up attacks. That’s what others are saying. We can get better. Dylan was never just a stopper. If we improve that no6 we will do better against defensive teams.

Why not get Dylan back? He was very good at dictating play and intercepting opposition passes less good I think at tracking runners.

bordergreen
22-06-2023, 07:00 AM
i agree, think he breaks up the play,

It is not a coincidence we became better when he signed. I really like him.

Since452
22-06-2023, 07:02 AM
Don't get the negativity towards Jeggo. He's like Marvin Bartley. Does the same job only a better footballer. An important type of player to have in the squad.

Johnny_Leith
22-06-2023, 07:06 AM
Don't get the negativity towards Jeggo. He's like Marvin Bartley. Does the same job only a better footballer

Hard disagree. Marv was much better on the ball than people remember whereas jeggo has a poor range of passing. Marv was better all round than jeggo too imo, stronger and more imposing, more of a leader.

supermcginn
22-06-2023, 07:21 AM
Don't get the negativity towards Jeggo. He's like Marvin Bartley. Does the same job only a better footballer. An important type of player to have in the squad.

Bartley was twice the player Jeggo is in all departments!

HFC93
22-06-2023, 07:28 AM
I know this probably isn’t the fashionable opinion but I love Jeggo, think he’s a cracking player


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Agreed - he seems to get a lot hate which I don't understand. He has done well since he arrived IMO.

Hibees1973
22-06-2023, 07:39 AM
I’ve heard he’s signed a new deal with Hibs, need to wait and see if that’s accurate or not though


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Not seen anything like that reported but if true will be great news if Laidlaw stays. Only one or two in the development squad are anywhere near the 1st team with Laidlaw being the obvious one. It seemed for a while he was leaving so would really show the influence of our new DOF if Laidlaw decided to sign a new contract with us.

With the players that have left already I'm more optimistic that we have a more coherent recruitment strategy. The problem we have is that there is a fair bit of mess still to clear up from the last couple of transfer windows before we have a fit, tight and competitive 20-24 first team squad capable of fighting for third in the League and getting through 2 or 3 rounds of the Europa Conference League.

We paid the price a couple of years ago not being ready for Europe. With the money Aberdeen & Hearts have the DOF and the recruitment team will have to be a bit more smarter than the last couple of years.

superfurryhibby
22-06-2023, 07:45 AM
Agreed - he seems to get a lot hate which I don't understand. He has done well since he arrived IMO.


Not liking a player or thinking they are pretty limited isn't hating them?

keep the faith
22-06-2023, 07:58 AM
JDH is a player we need to upgrade

Def the one we should move on if possible. Just doesn't offer enough if we are to kick on this season.

Dmas
22-06-2023, 08:06 AM
Def the one we should move on if possible. Just doesn't offer enough if we are to kick on this season.

Gave his best performances in a hibs short end of the season if we’ve found a role to get the best out him and those performances can be maintained over a season we should be keeping him around IMO performance v Celtic for me was outstanding.
We def need new blood in midfield dont see why we couldn’t add 2 more in there with what we have now give ourselves options for a change

JohnM1875
22-06-2023, 08:17 AM
Def the one we should move on if possible. Just doesn't offer enough if we are to kick on this season.

I know this will sound stupid after his goals last season, but for me the centre mid I'd be moving on would be Campbell. We'd get the most money for him and I'd replace him with a proper creative midfielder.

Jones28
22-06-2023, 08:17 AM
Why not get Dylan back? He was very good at dictating play and intercepting opposition passes less good I think at tracking runners.

5 years ago he was.

Now?

Who's to know?

Smartie
22-06-2023, 08:25 AM
I know this will sound stupid after his goals last season, but for me the centre mid I'd be moving on would be Campbell. We'd get the most money for him and I'd replace him with a proper creative midfielder.

He had a much poorer 2nd half to the season after his excellent first half.

Campbell is useful, if maybe not a first choice.

Whilst Jeggo maybe isn’t my favourite ever player it’s impossible to ignore what he brings to the side and our team improved as soon as he arrived. It also improved when Fish came into the team and Stevenson made the LB spot his own again, and Egan-Riley/ Miller got a run at RB, how much is down to each factor I don’t know.

Percy Vere
22-06-2023, 08:26 AM
Genuinely every single time!

Get a ball playing one and we moan he’s not good enough defensively.

Get a good defensive minded one and we moan he’s not good enough on the ball.

At our level, we’ll be doing very well to get someone really good at both.

I like Jeggo and think he gets a tough time. He’s now McGeough on the ball, but he’s comfortable and can pass it about and control the thing, which is more than can be said for Kenneh.

Jeggo also seems to organise us brilliantly and is always right up against the opposition midfield.

Agree. People have very short memories. We were crying out for a defensive midfielder, a disrupter, filling in the gaps. He definitely made an impact when he arrived. I like the way he organises as well.
I guess it’s a bit of a thankless role, often unnoticed, but worth watching him during a match to see his work. Not the best passer but as you say if he was the whole package he wouldn’t be with us for long. Very useful player to keep in the squad imo.

Since452
22-06-2023, 08:27 AM
Why not get Dylan back? He was very good at dictating play and intercepting opposition passes less good I think at tracking runners.

No idea what he's like as a player these days. Been a long time since he played for Hibs.

Hibby Kay-Yay
22-06-2023, 08:29 AM
So as it stands, our best team just now is:

Marshall

Miller
Rocky
Hanlon
Stevenson

Newell
Jeggo
JDH

Boyle (if fit)
Alf
Youan

Since452
22-06-2023, 08:33 AM
Genuinely every single time!

Get a ball playing one and we moan he’s not good enough defensively.

Get a good defensive minded one and we moan he’s not good enough on the ball.

At our level, we’ll be doing very well to get someone really good at both.

I like Jeggo and think he gets a tough time. He’s now McGeough on the ball, but he’s comfortable and can pass it about and control the thing, which is more than can be said for Kenneh.

Jeggo also seems to organise us brilliantly and is always right up against the opposition midfield.

:agree: That's why we're fans and not football managers. We improved dramatically after Jeggo arrived to the point i reckon we were pretty unlucky not to snatch 3rd. We absolutely battered the team that did but couldn't get the ball in the net. He may not be the silky or flair player we all love but he's a hugely important part of the side. The balance of the team is much better with him in it.

Paulie Walnuts
22-06-2023, 08:33 AM
I know this will sound stupid after his goals last season, but for me the centre mid I'd be moving on would be Campbell. We'd get the most money for him and I'd replace him with a proper creative midfielder.

Don’t think that sounds stupid at all.

He’s the one that could still command a good fee whilst not really being any better than the guys that wouldn’t command one.

I said it before but if we got offered £1m for him I’d bite their hand off. Although some people were suggesting we’d be selling ourselves short if we sold him for less than £3m so preferably we’d get closer to that :greengrin

Frazerbob
22-06-2023, 08:39 AM
I just can't bring myself to count Elie this window regardless if he absolutely is a new permanent signing. So, ALF so far.

I have a Fish shaped hole in my excitement for this transfer window. Get it filled, Hibs!

It doesn't matter if you count Ellie as a signing or not, he is......a pretty expensive one at that.

JohnM1875
22-06-2023, 08:46 AM
It doesn't matter if you count Ellie as a signing or not, he is......a pretty expensive one at that.

It matters to me God damn it! Wish we'd just sign Fish.

JohnM1875
22-06-2023, 08:47 AM
Don’t think that sounds stupid at all.

He’s the one that could still command a good fee whilst not really being any better than the guys that wouldn’t command one.

I said it before but if we got offered £1m for him I’d bite their hand off. Although some people were suggesting we’d be selling ourselves short if we sold him for less than £3m so preferably we’d get closer to that :greengrin

Absolutely be accepting anything north of a million for him. Heard a few folk say there's interest in him so we might find out this window what he's worth.

brog
22-06-2023, 08:48 AM
Agree. People have very short memories. We were crying out for a defensive midfielder, a disrupter, filling in the gaps. He definitely made an impact when he arrived. I like the way he organises as well.
I guess it’s a bit of a thankless role, often unnoticed, but worth watching him during a match to see his work. Not the best passer but as you say if he was the whole package he wouldn’t be with us for long. Very useful player to keep in the squad imo.

Well we actually signed someone for that position last summer. It just turned out Kenneh wasn't very good at it. Personally I'm not convinced you need someone like Jeggo. There's no point winning the ball if you then give it straight back. Man C paid a fortune for Phillips then never played him. I know we're not Man C but neither is our league the EPL.

brog
22-06-2023, 08:50 AM
It matters to me God damn it! Wish we'd just sign Fish.

Wouldnt matter, by your logic he wouldn't be a signing! 😀

Jones28
22-06-2023, 08:51 AM
I know this will sound stupid after his goals last season, but for me the centre mid I'd be moving on would be Campbell. We'd get the most money for him and I'd replace him with a proper creative midfielder.

So the one midfielder who scores goals - something we've been crying out for since McGinn - is the one we should move on?

JohnM1875
22-06-2023, 08:58 AM
So the one midfielder who scores goals - something we've been crying out for since McGinn - is the one we should move on?

Got it in one, champ!

I do like Campbell and he undoubtedly improved a lot last season, but he had an average to poor end to the season and think we could reinvest the money we get for him to buy a better player.

Don't think Josh would want to move from Hibs though. Unless it's for crazy money in the English championship or Italy.

JohnM1875
22-06-2023, 08:58 AM
Wouldnt matter, by your logic he wouldn't be a signing! 😀

Wouldn't count as a new signing 😉

Fergus52
22-06-2023, 08:59 AM
Out and out ball winners are outdated, no top sides play with a pure destroyer as their deepest midfielder now.

Even in our league, ramadani at Aberdeen and even haring or beningame at hearts are miles ahead of jeggo technically.

Having a no. 6 that can properly dictate play is a must in modern football. We know Newell doesn't suit playing that deep, so we badly need to sign a technical deep midfielder as an alternative to Kenneh or jeggo imo.

BoomtownHibees
22-06-2023, 09:02 AM
Out and out ball winners are outdated, no top sides play with a pure destroyer as their deepest midfielder now.

Even in our league, ramadani at Aberdeen and even haring or beningame at hearts are miles ahead of jeggo technically.

Having a no. 6 that can properly dictate play is a must in modern football. We know Newell doesn't suit playing that deep, so we badly need to sign a technical deep midfielder as an alternative to Kenneh or jeggo imo.

Haring?? Come oan now

SickBoy32
22-06-2023, 09:14 AM
Out and out ball winners are outdated, no top sides play with a pure destroyer as their deepest midfielder now.

Even in our league, ramadani at Aberdeen and even haring or beningame at hearts are miles ahead of jeggo technically.

Having a no. 6 that can properly dictate play is a must in modern football. We know Newell doesn't suit playing that deep, so we badly need to sign a technical deep midfielder as an alternative to Kenneh or jeggo imo.

I agree that Jeggo is poor technically, I also think he's pretty slow and weak too (Kenneh is even worse to be honest) - we can and should be getting better in that role

Always makes me laugh when I read what doesn't suit Newell, he can't play deep, can't play wide or advanced in midfield, so what does he really offer and is he good enough to build a midfield around? Not for me, and we won't solve our midfield troubles whilst he is still a part of the jigsaw IMO

Also find it bizarre folk wanting rid of Campbell, a total workhouse for us in there that chipped in with a few crucial goals last season

degenerated
22-06-2023, 09:15 AM
Out and out ball winners are outdated, no top sides play with a pure destroyer as their deepest midfielder now.

Even in our league, ramadani at Aberdeen and even haring or beningame at hearts are miles ahead of jeggo technically.

Having a no. 6 that can properly dictate play is a must in modern football. We know Newell doesn't suit playing that deep, so we badly need to sign a technical deep midfielder as an alternative to Kenneh or jeggo imo.Haring :hilarious hes a player that can only kick the ball in the direction he's facing, and there's no guarantee that's the way it's going to go.

Bridge hibs
22-06-2023, 09:17 AM
Haring?? Come oan now

Yep Haring !! ****ing criticise a hibs player by all means but thats a bit insulting saying he is miles better than Jeggo, Haring is utter ****ing pants 🤣

And Beningame who has played a grand total of 24 games for hearts in 2 years !! **** me 🤣🤣

Paulie Walnuts
22-06-2023, 09:17 AM
So the one midfielder who scores goals - something we've been crying out for since McGinn - is the one we should move on?

Thing is I don’t fancy him to score the same again.

It sounds overly critical, but he had a couple of gluts of goals rather than being a particularly consistent goalscoring midfielder. I’d be stunned if he’s bagging 5 in 2 games against teams next season like he did this season for example.

If he gets more than 3 or 4 next season I’d be surprised.

Smartie
22-06-2023, 09:19 AM
I don't follow their fortunes all that closely but was Haring not a pretty decent player for them a few years back?

Is he even still there, never seem to hear about him?

Paulie Walnuts
22-06-2023, 09:20 AM
I don't follow their fortunes all that closely but was Haring not a pretty decent player for them a few years back?

Is he even still there, never seem to hear about him?

I was always happier when he wasn’t playing, at least a few years ago.

He was still there as of last season. Didn’t play much though.

As an aside, I remember someone using transfermarket to prove the injuries Jonny Williams had previously and I said it was in no way reliable. It has Haring down as being out with a concussion for nearly half a season last season :greengrin

Bridge hibs
22-06-2023, 09:22 AM
I was always happier when he wasn’t playing, at least a few years ago.

He was still there as of last season. Didn’t play much though.

I was delighted when he did play for them, as good as a man down

Onceinawhile
22-06-2023, 09:22 AM
So the one midfielder who scores goals - something we've been crying out for since McGinn - is the one we should move on?

He got 9 goals last season.

How many of them came post January?

5 of them were against an awful, awful aberdeen. So I think he actually only scored in 5 games out of 36 in the league (that he played in). Hardly prolific.

He scored in 6 games out of 41 this season.

500miles
22-06-2023, 09:22 AM
I don't follow their fortunes all that closely but was Haring not a pretty decent player for them a few years back?

Is he even still there, never seem to hear about him?

Craig Levien played him while he had a double hernia, struggled to stay fit ever since.

He was a very good player- a very Hibs type player actually.

Paulie Walnuts
22-06-2023, 09:23 AM
He got 9 goals last season.

How many of them came post January?

5 of them were against an awful, awful aberdeen. So I think he actually only scored in 5 games out of 36 in the league (that he played in). Hardly prolific.

He scored in 6 games out of 41 this season.

:agree:

He deserves praise for scoring the goals he did last season, but I don’t think it points to someone who’s going to do it again.

SickBoy32
22-06-2023, 09:24 AM
He got 9 goals last season.

How many of them came post January?

5 of them were against an awful, awful aberdeen. So I think he actually only scored in 5 games out of 36 in the league (that he played in). Hardly prolific.

He scored in 6 games out of 41 this season.

Haha that's some way to look at it - pretty sure he scored more than the rest of the midfield combined

500miles
22-06-2023, 09:26 AM
He got 9 goals last season.

How many of them came post January?

5 of them were against an awful, awful aberdeen. So I think he actually only scored in 5 games out of 36 in the league (that he played in). Hardly prolific.

He scored in 6 games out of 41 this season.

Funny how you select your details because you should also realise that those goals came against teams who 1st, 2nd and 3rd place in the league.

He's a big game player.

Jones28
22-06-2023, 09:33 AM
He got 9 goals last season.

How many of them came post January?

5 of them were against an awful, awful aberdeen. So I think he actually only scored in 5 games out of 36 in the league (that he played in). Hardly prolific.

He scored in 6 games out of 41 this season.

Ok, so we should discount the 5 he scored against Aberdeen because they were ****, so **** they finished 3rd actually. Is that what you're saying?

My point is he's scored 1 goal fewer than the rest of midfield combined. He bagged 9 goals last season and was our joint-second highest goal scorer, as well as 5 assists.

Jones28
22-06-2023, 09:35 AM
Thing is I don’t fancy him to score the same again.

It sounds overly critical, but he had a couple of gluts of goals rather than being a particularly consistent goalscoring midfielder. I’d be stunned if he’s bagging 5 in 2 games against teams next season like he did this season for example.

If he gets more than 3 or 4 next season I’d be surprised.


Why wouldn't he score goals again?

All players have peaks and troughs. Nisbet has been our only consistent scorer we've had in the side since...who? Kamberi in his loan spell?

Brightside
22-06-2023, 09:39 AM
Def the one we should move on if possible. Just doesn't offer enough if we are to kick on this season.

He is world class compared to Jeggo.

J-C
22-06-2023, 09:39 AM
Ok, so we should discount the 5 he scored against Aberdeen because they were ****, so **** they finished 3rd actually. Is that what you're saying?

My point is he's scored 1 goal fewer than the rest of midfield combined. He bagged 9 goals last season and was our joint-second highest goal scorer, as well as 5 assists.

Sshh!! There's no room for sense on this thread.

Brightside
22-06-2023, 09:41 AM
There's nothing wrong imo in having a no 6 that's main focus is breaking attacks up if you have other midfielders that are creative around him . Which we don't and that's been the case since before we signed Jeggo too .

That's where one of our problems has been all last year in we severely lacked creativity and drive from midfield and that's what we should be concentrating on in adding to our squad and not trying to add to the problems in getting rid of a good player that's improved us and is handy to have .

Dylan was a good player for us though must have helped playing in that midfield which was excellent compared to the one we have now . Keep Jeggo and add a couple of creative midfielder's . Problem solved 😉

Or just get a player that can do more. It’s not wrong to want to have better. He’s a limited footballer. How about we try and get a 6 who isn’t limited.

Paulie Walnuts
22-06-2023, 09:44 AM
Why wouldn't he score goals again?

All players have peaks and troughs. Nisbet has been our only consistent scorer we've had in the side since...who? Kamberi in his loan spell?

I didn’t say he wouldn’t score goals again. I said I wouldn’t fancy him to score the same again.

Why would I not fancy that? Because he doesn’t score particularly frequently and midfielders rarely score goals in 2s or 3s like Campbell did this season, so I don’t expect him to do the same next season. I think the goals against Aberdeen boosted his tally to a level that has people now thinking he’s going to be approaching double figures every season. In reality I think he’ll remain good for 3 or 4.

Since452
22-06-2023, 09:49 AM
I personally back Campbell to continue to improve under LJ. He was one i'd have happily seen moved on at the start of last season but he hugely proved me wrong.

Also think JDH is a player and one we should keep. The only players i'd be trying to move on swiftly now are Henderson and McKirdy.

Jones28
22-06-2023, 09:53 AM
I didn’t say he wouldn’t score goals again. I said I wouldn’t fancy him to score the same again.

Why would I not fancy that? Because he doesn’t score particularly frequently and midfielders rarely score goals in 2s or 3s like Campbell did this season, so I don’t expect him to do the same next season. I think the goals against Aberdeen boosted his tally to a level that has people now thinking he’s going to be approaching double figures every season. In reality I think he’ll remain good for 3 or 4.

Do you think he should be moved on as a previous poster suggested?

Smartie
22-06-2023, 10:00 AM
I personally back Campbell to continue to improve under LJ. He was one i'd have happily seen moved on at the start of last season but he hugely proved me wrong.

Also think JDH is a player and one we should keep. The only players i'd be trying to move on swiftly now are Henderson and McKirdy.

Yeah, I think that's pretty much where I am. Even then, I've only really lost patience with McKirdy recently.

If we get Fish in, it's been a brilliantly decisive start to the transfer window and gives us a really good platform upon which to build for next season.

Campbell is handy. Not a first pick every week but someone who I would trust to make a significant contribution over the course of a season (whether or not he'd be happy with that is another story).

The Modfather
22-06-2023, 10:04 AM
Do you think he should be moved on as a previous poster suggested?

I think Campbell is expendable, and if we could get a seven figure fee for him could be a much better team overall and/or have genuine squad depth.

You can’t talk down his stats last season in terms of goals and assists. However I’m not sure they will be repeated. He got 5 goals and 2 assists in the two home games against Aberdeen. I don’t expect him to replicate that kind return over a couple of games in many seasons. If he could score the same number of goals spread over more games he’d be first game in our midfield though.

PHeffernan
22-06-2023, 10:06 AM
Agreed. Still early days but we also need to make sure we are ready for European qualifiers.

We should have enough in the squad as is to get through the first round, although complacency in the League Cup last year came back to bite us.

But we must have the majority of our signings made by the time the next round comes along.

We have worked hard last year to secure European football, celebrated the success of getting here - we have to now take it seriously and make sure we are ready to give it a real go. There is a lot of money on the line and we have a decent chance of reaching the Group stage if we prepare correctly and get a bit of luck.

Europe shouldn't just be seen as a jolly - the club now have a competition where we can actually progress, and preparing for that is absolute no. 1 priority.

We have very little chance of making the group stage.
We will easily win our 2nd round tie but chances are we will meet a big hitter in the 3rd round and go out.
If we are lucky enough to get a good draw in the 3rd round, play well and get through we would then draw another big hitter in the play off round.
Being minus last seasons Nisbet isn't going to help either.

Paulie Walnuts
22-06-2023, 10:07 AM
Do you think he should be moved on as a previous poster suggested?

If we were to get a good fee I’d move him on. Id equally be happy to see him stay. I think he’s more than replaceable though, especially if we got £1m or so.

04Sauzee
22-06-2023, 10:11 AM
Thought the Hibs media team would be busy over the socials with the first team returning to pre-season training today.

ancient hibee
22-06-2023, 10:11 AM
I was always happier when he wasn’t playing, at least a few years ago.

He was still there as of last season. Didn’t play much though.

As an aside, I remember someone using transfermarket to prove the injuries Jonny Williams had previously and I said it was in no way reliable. It has Haring down as being out with a concussion for nearly half a season last season :greengrin

Haring was out for nearly half the season with concussion.Seems the site is reasonably reliable .

Paulie Walnuts
22-06-2023, 10:14 AM
Haring was out for nearly half the season with concussion.Seems the site is reasonably reliable .

Well I’ll be dammed.

The Jonny Williams ones were definitely unreliable as they were missing numerous reported injuries but that must have been some head knock for Haring!

PHeffernan
22-06-2023, 10:15 AM
Thought the Hibs media team would be busy over the socials with the first team returning to pre-season training today.

They will be.
Will possibly load up the photographs at lunch time.

JimBHibees
22-06-2023, 10:32 AM
Def the one we should move on if possible. Just doesn't offer enough if we are to kick on this season.

I like him think he has potential to get better. Although another who seems to be out injured alot

Donegal Hibby
22-06-2023, 10:37 AM
Or just get a player that can do more. It’s not wrong to want to have better. He’s a limited footballer. How about we try and get a 6 who isn’t limited.

At the moment we need a GOALKEEPER , RB to cover miller , at least one CB , LB , at least 2 MD and a striker . That's 7 quality players minimum we need that should be a priority over trying to replace a player that's good at what he's suppose to do in the team .

I don't know what our transfer budget is though I don't think it's going to stretch to a whole new team . Get a couple of creative attacking midfielders in and we will be fine with Jeggo in the team. We have seriously got poorer players in our squad I'd like to move on rather than Jeggo . ( Henderson, kenneh and JDH ) Spring to mind .

JimBHibees
22-06-2023, 10:39 AM
He got 9 goals last season.

How many of them came post January?

5 of them were against an awful, awful aberdeen. So I think he actually only scored in 5 games out of 36 in the league (that he played in). Hardly prolific.

He scored in 6 games out of 41 this season.

No doubt he tailed off however surmised he was struggling physically but still played. Thought he had a great season and think he can get better. Aberdeen were above us in the league. Certainly a goal threat from midfield which we definitely lack.

wookie70
22-06-2023, 11:05 AM
He got 9 goals last season.

How many of them came post January?

5 of them were against an awful, awful aberdeen. So I think he actually only scored in 5 games out of 36 in the league (that he played in). Hardly prolific.

He scored in 6 games out of 41 this season.

Quite a bizarre take imo. He is a goal scoring midfielder. They are like gold dust and he scores in the games against teams above us last year, that is even harder. He is also young, improved season on season, versatile and probably not on a huge contract. He would be one of teh last players I would look to get off the books and the club has done well getting those out the door it most needed to with more to follow hopefully

Oscar T Grouch
22-06-2023, 11:13 AM
Not seen anything like that reported but if true will be great news if Laidlaw stays. Only one or two in the development squad are anywhere near the 1st team with Laidlaw being the obvious one. It seemed for a while he was leaving so would really show the influence of our new DOF if Laidlaw decided to sign a new contract with us.

With the players that have left already I'm more optimistic that we have a more coherent recruitment strategy. The problem we have is that there is a fair bit of mess still to clear up from the last couple of transfer windows before we have a fit, tight and competitive 20-24 first team squad capable of fighting for third in the League and getting through 2 or 3 rounds of the Europa Conference League.

We paid the price a couple of years ago not being ready for Europe. With the money Aberdeen & Hearts have the DOF and the recruitment team will have to be a bit more smarter than the last couple of years.

Laidlaw signed for Watford, I thought that was common knowledge?

https://twitter.com/WeAreWatfordFC/status/1665762603920965633

Callum_62
22-06-2023, 11:14 AM
Laidlaw signed for Watford, I thought that was common knowledge?

https://twitter.com/WeAreWatfordFC/status/1665762603920965633Don't think that's a genuine Watford account there

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Oscar T Grouch
22-06-2023, 11:29 AM
Don't think that's a genuine Watford account there

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Oh right, I just did a quick search on twitter, it was a story in the papers a while back that he turned down Hibs offer and was going to sign for Watford, my main point is that he said he isn't re-signing for Hibs. I hope the poster Hibees1973 was talking to is right and he has reconsidered.

Hibees1973
22-06-2023, 11:33 AM
If we were to get a good fee I’d move him on. Id equally be happy to see him stay. I think he’s more than replaceable though, especially if we got £1m or so.

Everyone in the squad is replaceable, not just Campbell.

There was speculation that there was interest from an Italian club (possibly Bologna) last year, but that's all it was, speculation. Does this speculation justify a £1m plus fee for him on what he has done so far. I think not.

The difference is that Campbell gave a positive contribution last year. Yes, his form dipped a bit, but they all do at Hibs at some point. That's why they are here. Players will only get a £1m+ move away from Hibs if they have a run of good consistent form/scoring goals for a couple of seasons, like Nisbet had, even with his spell out injured.

Others contributed very little or nothing last season. Hibs should not be actively looking to move Campbell on. If a bid comes in, fine. Hibs should be actively looking to move/loan out/advise they should look for other clubs to the likes of Henderson/McKirdy/Tavares/Kenneh. If they remain and Johnson gets the size and quality of squad he wants he is entitled to tell the likes of these four to say he will not play them. Yes, they will still be paid. But it's the responsibility and error of the recruitment team who got these types of players in. Hope they learn from it in this transfer window.

Brightside
22-06-2023, 11:34 AM
At the moment we need a GOALKEEPER , RB to cover miller , at least one CB , LB , at least 2 MD and a striker . That's 7 quality players minimum we need that should be a priority over trying to replace a player that's good at what he's suppose to do in the team .

I don't know what our transfer budget is though I don't think it's going to stretch to a whole new team . Get a couple of creative attacking midfielders in and we will be fine with Jeggo in the team. We have seriously got poorer players in our squad I'd like to move on rather than Jeggo . ( Henderson, kenneh and JDH ) Spring to mind .

We lost far too many points to bottom 6 teams. That’s wasn’t down to being poor defensively. If we beat all the bottom 6 teams you come 3rd. We won’t be getting another RB or LB. We have Oscar and Megwa.

MikeyS
22-06-2023, 11:47 AM
If we were to get a good fee I’d move him on. Id equally be happy to see him stay. I think he’s more than replaceable though, especially if we got £1m or so.

I quite like Campbell as he works tirelessly unlike a few others but I'd happily drive him anywhere that offers 1 million quid. I honestly cannot see anyone ever paying even half of that for him!

badabing67
22-06-2023, 11:56 AM
Thought the Hibs media team would be busy over the socials with the first team returning to pre-season training today.

(1) Hibernian Football Club on Twitter: "Back to work �� https://t.co/U0vf9S75PH" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1671845252104089600)

Youan has changed his number

Paulie Walnuts
22-06-2023, 12:14 PM
Controversial one - and not something I’ve heard just to be clear.

Would anyone take Siggurdson? Free agent, left Everton last summer. Obviously had his ‘issue’ but no further action to be taken on that front.

Vault Boy
22-06-2023, 12:24 PM
Controversial one - and not something I’ve heard just to be clear.

Would anyone take Siggurdson? Free agent, left Everton last summer. Obviously had his ‘issue’ but no further action to be taken on that front.

No.

Unseen work
22-06-2023, 12:25 PM
(1) Hibernian Football Club on Twitter: "Back to work �� https://t.co/U0vf9S75PH" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1671845252104089600)

Youan has changed his number

Where is everyone?🤣

Only Jeggo, Hanlon, Stevenson, Doidge, Newell, Campbell and miller can be seen

Hiding certain angles as a new player is there and still to be announced? 👀

HendoDelivered
22-06-2023, 12:25 PM
Idzes signing for Italian side Venezia.

lyonhibs
22-06-2023, 12:26 PM
Controversial one - and not something I’ve heard just to be clear.

Would anyone take Siggurdson? Free agent, left Everton last summer. Obviously had his ‘issue’ but no further action to be taken on that front.

No. Aside from the obvious moral quibbles, we'd never met his wage demands

04Sauzee
22-06-2023, 12:28 PM
Idzes signing for Italian side Venezia.

8th in seria B last season with a ground capacity of 11.5k

Unseen work
22-06-2023, 12:31 PM
Idzes signing for Italian side Venezia.

Aberdeen were clearly trying to save face saying they didn’t want him anymore and withdrew their offer.

Obviously knew he was signing for them instead

HendoDelivered
22-06-2023, 12:33 PM
Aberdeen were clearly trying to save face saying they didn’t want him anymore and withdrew their offer.

Obviously knew he was signing for them instead

I reckon so as well

Fergus52
22-06-2023, 12:36 PM
I agree that Jeggo is poor technically, I also think he's pretty slow and weak too (Kenneh is even worse to be honest) - we can and should be getting better in that role

Always makes me laugh when I read what doesn't suit Newell, he can't play deep, can't play wide or advanced in midfield, so what does he really offer and is he good enough to build a midfield around? Not for me, and we won't solve our midfield troubles whilst he is still a part of the jigsaw IMO

Also find it bizarre folk wanting rid of Campbell, a total workhouse for us in there that chipped in with a few crucial goals last season

He was playing further forward last season then he was under Ross or Maloney and he was excellent, not quite a number 10 or playmaker and not quite box to box. He was one of the very best ball winning midfielders in the league in terms of tackles and ball recoveries per game, and also upped his creative output being in the top 15/20% of all players in the league for metrics like accurate crosses, key passes, assists, successful passes etc.

Have a well-rounded 6 and a proper attacking midfielder next to him (ideally would have been magennis if he could stay fit) and our midfield will look excellent imo.

Campbell on the other hand badly needs to work on his first touch, passing, dribbling ability before I want to see him starting week in week out for hibs, has a great engine and good movements and finishing but he's well below par technically to be starting each week for us, loses the ball due to poor technique far too often.


Yep Haring !! ****ing criticise a hibs player by all means but thats a bit insulting saying he is miles better than Jeggo, Haring is utter ****ing pants 🤣

And Beningame who has played a grand total of 24 games for hearts in 2 years !! **** me 🤣🤣

Two seasons ago when Hearts came third he was one of the best players in the league outside of the old firm. Was injured all of last season hence the 24 games in two years.

EGL2000
22-06-2023, 12:40 PM
8th in seria B last season with a ground capacity of 11.5k

Can still pay considerably more than us and Aberdeen. They paid 6 mill in fees last season.

badabing67
22-06-2023, 12:48 PM
Where is everyone?🤣

Only Jeggo, Hanlon, Stevenson, Doidge, Newell, Campbell and miller can be seen

Hiding certain angles as a new player is there and still to be announced? 👀

What new players? Is there something your not sharing?

EGL2000
22-06-2023, 12:52 PM
What new players? Is there something your not sharing?

I do think some are still away, see Melkerson still looks like he's on holiday. Do the foreign players get slightly longer, not sure?

brog
22-06-2023, 12:55 PM
He was playing further forward last season then he was under Ross or Maloney and he was excellent, not quite a number 10 or playmaker and not quite box to box. He was one of the very best ball winning midfielders in the league in terms of tackles and ball recoveries per game, and also upped his creative output being in the top 15/20% of all players in the league for metrics like accurate crosses, key passes, assists, successful passes etc.

Have a well-rounded 6 and a proper attacking midfielder next to him (ideally would have been magennis if he could stay fit) and our midfield will look excellent imo.

Campbell on the other hand badly needs to work on his first touch, passing, dribbling ability before I want to see him starting week in week out for hibs, has a great engine and good movements and finishing but he's well below par technically to be starting each week for us, loses the ball due to poor technique far too often.



Two seasons ago when Hearts came third he was one of the best players in the league outside of the old firm. Was injured all of last season hence the 24 games in two years.

According to Hearts supporters. We've heard that story for many of their players over many seasons.!!

04Sauzee
22-06-2023, 12:56 PM
Can still pay considerably more than us and Aberdeen. They paid 6 mill in fees last season.

I get that and I get he will be well paid, just crazy that mud table seria B teams with a stadium slightly bigger than Livingston or St Johnstone have that money.

EGL2000
22-06-2023, 12:59 PM
I get that and I get he will be well paid, just crazy that mud table seria B teams with a stadium slightly bigger than Livingston or St Johnstone have that money.

Have been in the top flight for a few seasons recently so will mostly be TV money from that etc.

Bridge hibs
22-06-2023, 01:05 PM
He was playing further forward last season then he was under Ross or Maloney and he was excellent, not quite a number 10 or playmaker and not quite box to box. He was one of the very best ball winning midfielders in the league in terms of tackles and ball recoveries per game, and also upped his creative output being in the top 15/20% of all players in the league for metrics like accurate crosses, key passes, assists, successful passes etc.

Have a well-rounded 6 and a proper attacking midfielder next to him (ideally would have been magennis if he could stay fit) and our midfield will look excellent imo.

Campbell on the other hand badly needs to work on his first touch, passing, dribbling ability before I want to see him starting week in week out for hibs, has a great engine and good movements and finishing but he's well below par technically to be starting each week for us, loses the ball due to poor technique far too often.



Two seasons ago when Hearts came third he was one of the best players in the league outside of the old firm. Was injured all of last season hence the 24 games in two years.But hardly miles better, and then you added Haring to that mix, Haring would probably only just stand out for a Scottish lower league side, he is utter rank. Degenerated summed him up to a t further up the thread

Baningame if he is lucky may yet kick a ball for hearts but no certs as he has been out that long

Unseen work
22-06-2023, 01:08 PM
What new players? Is there something your not sharing?

No no just hoping!🤣

Just because with such a big squad it seems odd we only have about 7 or 8 getting photos today.

Even the likes of Tait, Mackay etc you’d expect to be there

AlbertK86
22-06-2023, 01:12 PM
He was playing further forward last season then he was under Ross or Maloney and he was excellent, not quite a number 10 or playmaker and not quite box to box. He was one of the very best ball winning midfielders in the league in terms of tackles and ball recoveries per game, and also upped his creative output being in the top 15/20% of all players in the league for metrics like accurate crosses, key passes, assists, successful passes etc.

Have a well-rounded 6 and a proper attacking midfielder next to him (ideally would have been magennis if he could stay fit) and our midfield will look excellent imo.

Campbell on the other hand badly needs to work on his first touch, passing, dribbling ability before I want to see him starting week in week out for hibs, has a great engine and good movements and finishing but he's well below par technically to be starting each week for us, loses the ball due to poor technique far too often.



Two seasons ago when Hearts came third he was one of the best players in the league outside of the old firm. Was injured all of last season hence the 24 games in two years.

Re Campbell I would add in his lack of anticipation and reading of the game. Majority of the time he reacts after the ball has hit its destination.

Hate the way he and Cadden turned away in RB area as if it wasn’t their fault any time anybody skipped past them as if they were statues. Happened numerous times this season resulting in goals against.

Runs about a lot but other than goals occasionally, he offers not much else and gives the ball away in key areas. Definitely better out there in the market we are in and if we can get £1 mill or above it for me is a must sell


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SickBoy32
22-06-2023, 01:19 PM
He was playing further forward last season then he was under Ross or Maloney and he was excellent, not quite a number 10 or playmaker and not quite box to box. He was one of the very best ball winning midfielders in the league in terms of tackles and ball recoveries per game, and also upped his creative output being in the top 15/20% of all players in the league for metrics like accurate crosses, key passes, assists, successful passes etc.

Have a well-rounded 6 and a proper attacking midfielder next to him (ideally would have been magennis if he could stay fit) and our midfield will look excellent imo.

Campbell on the other hand badly needs to work on his first touch, passing, dribbling ability before I want to see him starting week in week out for hibs, has a great engine and good movements and finishing but he's well below par technically to be starting each week for us, loses the ball due to poor technique far too often.

Is that bit in bold accurate? When watching him I always feel he's not great in the tackle, and gives a way a lot of cheap fouls

And as for being in the top 15-20% of ALL players in the league for some pretty niche metrics, that seems a fairly unimpressive stat particularly if it's including defenders etc.

1 goal and 6 assists isn't a great return for a guy playing centre mid most weeks in one of the leagues better sides - especially given he takes a decent amount of set pieces which will account for a few of the assists I'd imagine. His shooting ability is very poor, frankly.

I think you've summed it up by saying he's not X or Y, and we just need A and B alongside him in the midfield to compliment him.

Master of nothing IMO - and a key part of our recent midfield struggles

Hopefully given his POTY awards and these stats you've quoted - we may finally get some interest in him this year... :wink:

Forza Fred
22-06-2023, 01:24 PM
Laidlaw signed for Watford, I thought that was common knowledge?

https://twitter.com/WeAreWatfordFC/status/1665762603920965633

He may sign with Watford, but he hasn’t yet

Brightside
22-06-2023, 01:24 PM
Is that bit in bold accurate? When watching him I always feel he's not great in the tackle, and gives a way a lot of cheap fouls

And as for being in the top 15-20% of ALL players in the league for some pretty niche metrics, that seems a fairly unimpressive stat particularly if it's including defenders etc.

1 goal and 6 assists isn't a great return for a guy playing centre mid most weeks in one of the leagues better sides - especially given he takes a decent amount of set pieces which will account for a few of the assists I'd imagine. His shooting ability is very poor, frankly.

I think you've summed it up by saying he's not X or Y, and we just need A and B alongside him in the midfield to compliment him.

Master of nothing IMO - and a key part of our recent midfield struggles

Hopefully given his POTY awards and these stats you've quoted - we may finally get some interest in him this year... :wink:

Its true.

Forza Fred
22-06-2023, 01:26 PM
I do think some are still away, see Melkerson still looks like he's on holiday. Do the foreign players get slightly longer, not sure?

Is Melkersen not somewhere with Norway’s under 21s?

EGL2000
22-06-2023, 01:33 PM
Is Melkersen not somewhere with Norway’s under 21s?

Good point actually forgot he was away with them.

CapitalGreen
22-06-2023, 02:04 PM
No no just hoping!🤣

Just because with such a big squad it seems odd we only have about 7 or 8 getting photos today.

Even the likes of Tait, Mackay etc you’d expect to be there

It was the over 30s in today.

Hibby Kay-Yay
22-06-2023, 02:43 PM
It was the over 30s in today.

Still no Boyle though…unless just not pictured, but would find that strange giving the character he is and the importance he has on the team.

JohnM1875
22-06-2023, 02:48 PM
It was the over 30s in today.

Lewis Miller was in as well going by pictures. Good attitude if he's there and doesn't need to be. Big fan.

number9dream
22-06-2023, 02:49 PM
Is Melkersen not somewhere with Norway’s under 21s?

They play Switzerland tonight.

NC1875
22-06-2023, 02:52 PM
He may sign with Watford, but he hasn’t yet

He is signing for Watford, that’s from the horses mouth a couple of weeks ago.

CapitalGreen
22-06-2023, 02:52 PM
Still no Boyle though…unless just not pictured, but would find that strange giving the character he is and the importance he has on the team.

Fitness tests for the returning players today. Boyle has been doing rehab at HTC over the break.

Hibernian Verse
22-06-2023, 02:55 PM
Lewis Miller was in as well going by pictures. Good attitude if he's there and doesn't need to be. Big fan.

Soon to be fans favourite I reckon

Brightside
22-06-2023, 03:00 PM
He is signing for Watford, that’s from the horses mouth a couple of weeks ago.

Things can change

cabbageandribs1875
22-06-2023, 03:20 PM
Joe's hair looking great :greengrin

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/356090516_653453200153979_1154716389301429413_n.jp g?_nc_cat=105&cb=99be929b-3346023f&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=gcVOOv5L2MMAX8vBet3&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=00_AfCgGzYCYErD3pjXgIHAx73f1Zh0EahKt1F_5zZPzf4K EA&oe=64988EB7

Donegal Hibby
22-06-2023, 03:29 PM
We lost far too many points to bottom 6 teams. That’s wasn’t down to being poor defensively. If we beat all the bottom 6 teams you come 3rd. We won’t be getting another RB or LB. We have Oscar and Megwa.
Yeah we certainly did lose to many points to the bottom 6 teams . Lack of creativity in midfield a big factor imo . A couple of decent attacking creative midfielder's and a quality striker should hopefully sort us out . Will be surprised if we don't take in a LB tbh .

PHeffernan
22-06-2023, 04:11 PM
He may sign with Watford, but he hasn’t yet

Scottish contracts end the last day in May and English contracts end the last day of June.
Accordingly we can expect Laidlaw to sign an English contract on or about the 1st July.

Smartie
22-06-2023, 04:17 PM
We lost far too many points to bottom 6 teams. That’s wasn’t down to being poor defensively. If we beat all the bottom 6 teams you come 3rd. We won’t be getting another RB or LB. We have Oscar and Megwa.

We still managed to lose too many poor goals in those games.

I don't think our defence is our problem right now but I don't think they should be off the hook for the times when they were culpable.

Was it our creativity at fault for not scoring 4 when we lost 3-1 at home to Motherwell? Or for not scoring 3 when we lost 2-1 at home to St Johnstone, 2-0 at home to Ross County, drew 2-2 with Dundee United?

We were substandard in goal, at the back, in midfield AND up front in a few of these games.

The defence who finished the season were much stronger than the defence who started it, particularly either side of the WC when we were shaky.

LaMotta
22-06-2023, 04:32 PM
Depends what way you look at the evidence TBH . He's played in 4-1 win at Livvy , 1-0 win hertz , 0-0 away Aberdeen , 4-2 win Celtic and in general since he's signed we have improved. Yes he gets booked , think he's had around 7 or so . Not a bad thing imo to see a player getting stuck in for the team . Wonder how many yellows Henderson has ? . I think he'd rather go back to Australia than play English non league football myself 😂

Livvy had 10 men for most of the second half, and we were getting beat against Celtic when he got taken off at half time.

There waa hardly any difference in points per game between pre Jeggo ( 1.23) and Post Jeggo ( 1.37). Nisbets return far more influential in gaining points than anything Jeggo done.


I said Kenneh will end up non league in England, not Jeggo! :greengrin

LaMotta
22-06-2023, 04:33 PM
It is not a coincidence we became better when he signed. I really like him.

See post above re points per game.

LaMotta
22-06-2023, 04:37 PM
Hard disagree. Marv was much better on the ball than people remember whereas jeggo has a poor range of passing. Marv was better all round than jeggo too imo, stronger and more imposing, more of a leader.


Bartley was twice the player Jeggo is in all departments!

:agree: :agree:

Can't believe the disrepect Marv gets on here at times. He was faster, stronger and a better passer than Jeggo is. Bartley rarely gave the ball away, and could move it about cleverly too - see Cummings winner V Hearts in 2016 replay v Hearts at ER.

One thing they are on a par with is that neither look like ever chipping in with a goal ever:greengrin

GloryGlory
22-06-2023, 04:38 PM
Scottish contracts end the last day in May and English contracts end the last day of June.
Accordingly we can expect Laidlaw to sign an English contract on or about the 1st July.

So if Laidlaw's contract at Hibs ended 31 May he would be free to sign for Watford from 1 June, surely?

Hibby Kay-Yay
22-06-2023, 04:39 PM
Livvy had 10 men for most of the second half, and we were getting beat against Celtic when he got taken off at half time.

There waa hardly any difference in points per game between pre Jeggo ( 1.23) and Post Jeggo ( 1.37). Nisbets return far more influential in gaining points than anything Jeggo done.


I said Kenneh will end up non league in England, not Jeggo! :greengrin

Is it fair to use stats for points per game for one, deep lying midfield player? There must be more specific stats on our defence or tackles made etc.

LaMotta
22-06-2023, 04:42 PM
Is it fair to use stats for points per game for one, deep lying midfield player? There must be more specific stats on our defence or tackles made etc.

Yes it is when people are claiming the team improved as a whole drastically upon his arrival.

Alex Trager
22-06-2023, 05:00 PM
Yes it is when people are claiming the team improved as a whole drastically upon his arrival.

Surely you would focus on the defensive stats?

The Modfather
22-06-2023, 05:04 PM
He was playing further forward last season then he was under Ross or Maloney and he was excellent, not quite a number 10 or playmaker and not quite box to box. He was one of the very best ball winning midfielders in the league in terms of tackles and ball recoveries per game, and also upped his creative output being in the top 15/20% of all players in the league for metrics like accurate crosses, key passes, assists, successful passes etc.

Have a well-rounded 6 and a proper attacking midfielder next to him (ideally would have been magennis if he could stay fit) and our midfield will look excellent imo.

Campbell on the other hand badly needs to work on his first touch, passing, dribbling ability before I want to see him starting week in week out for hibs, has a great engine and good movements and finishing but he's well below par technically to be starting each week for us, loses the ball due to poor technique far too often.



Two seasons ago when Hearts came third he was one of the best players in the league outside of the old firm. Was injured all of last season hence the 24 games in two years.

Sounds like John McGinn MKII. Enjoy him while we can before we are fending off big money bids! Joking aside, stats tell only part of a story. Newell was more consistent than previous seasons, but still went missing in more games than someone with his ability should have IMO. If you hadn’t had said who those stats were for I’d have thought they must have been a midfielder at a different team.

IanM
22-06-2023, 05:05 PM
Hibs are closing in on a deal for defender Jordan Obita, who is a free agent following expiry of his contract with Wycombe Wanderers. With Croatian full-back Marijan Čabraja having returned home to sign for HNK Rijeka earlier this summer, Lee Johnson’s side are in the market for left-sided defensive options and 29-year-old Obita fits the bill, although he can also play further forward

JammyDoidger
22-06-2023, 05:10 PM
Hibs are closing in on a deal for defender Jordan Obita, who is a free agent following expiry of his contract with Wycombe Wanderers. With Croatian full-back Marijan Čabraja having returned home to sign for HNK Rijeka earlier this summer, Lee Johnson’s side are in the market for left-sided defensive options and 29-year-old Obita fits the bill, although he can also play further forward

See if we are going to sign a left back, can we no sign one that's actually better than Lewis Stevenson? What's the point man.

Bridge hibs
22-06-2023, 05:12 PM
Hibs are closing in on a deal for defender Jordan Obita, who is a free agent following expiry of his contract with Wycombe Wanderers. With Croatian full-back Marijan Čabraja having returned home to sign for HNK Rijeka earlier this summer, Lee Johnson’s side are in the market for left-sided defensive options and 29-year-old Obita fits the bill, although he can also play further forwardSounds decent and with some pace, can play central midfield which was his natural position before being moved to winger/wing back, good few games for Reading and Wycombe in the championship

Gmack7
22-06-2023, 05:13 PM
See if we are going to sign a left back, can we no sign one that's actually better than Lewis Stevenson? What's the point man.

He might be the one.

churchie16
22-06-2023, 05:15 PM
See if we are going to sign a left back, can we no sign one that's actually better than Lewis Stevenson? What's the point man.

Aye cause there’s loads of clubs that have been desperate to sign Lewis Stevenson over the years eh, plenty out there that is better hibs just far to loyal to mediocrity

Paulie Walnuts
22-06-2023, 05:15 PM
See if we are going to sign a left back, can we no sign one that's actually better than Lewis Stevenson? What's the point man.

Easier said than done. Still an excellent full back at our level.

Paulie Walnuts
22-06-2023, 05:15 PM
Aye cause there’s loads of clubs that have been desperate to sign Lewis Stevenson over the years eh, plenty out there that is better hibs just far to loyal to mediocrity

Lol. That’s a beauty.

JohnM1875
22-06-2023, 05:16 PM
Aye cause there’s loads of clubs that have been desperate to sign Lewis Stevenson over the years eh, plenty out there that is better hibs just far to loyal to mediocrity

😂😂

Stevenson is a Hibs legend. Nowhere near mediocre. Not even up for debate.

thebausburst
22-06-2023, 05:23 PM
Hibs are closing in on a deal for defender Jordan Obita, who is a free agent following expiry of his contract with Wycombe Wanderers. With Croatian full-back Marijan Čabraja having returned home to sign for HNK Rijeka earlier this summer, Lee Johnson’s side are in the market for left-sided defensive options and 29-year-old Obita fits the bill, although he can also play further forward

Another English lower league gem no doubt, why can’t we ever just sign an SPL player and know what we’re getting.

Silky
22-06-2023, 05:25 PM
Aye cause there’s loads of clubs that have been desperate to sign Lewis Stevenson over the years eh, plenty out there that is better hibs just far to loyal to mediocrity

I'm not ITK, so bow to your superior knowledge of Hibs transfer business, but I don't think anyone outside the club would know whether there were bids for him or not. There may well have been over the years. I can't comment because I don't know, but I'd be astounded if there weren't any.

Heisenberg
22-06-2023, 05:31 PM
Another English lower league gem no doubt, why can’t we ever just sign an SPL player and know what we’re getting.

Which left back in the Scottish Premiership could we sign that would be an immediate upgrade on what we have?

IanM
22-06-2023, 05:33 PM
Another English lower league gem no doubt, why can’t we ever just sign an SPL player and know what we’re getting.

Was at Reading same time as McDermott - Reading fans desperate to get him back (quick twitter search). Don’t know anything about him mind

Bridge hibs
22-06-2023, 05:33 PM
Another English lower league gem no doubt, why can’t we ever just sign an SPL player and know what we’re getting.Take it you have seen him play since you have obviously written him off, if so what kind of player is he and where do you think he is stronger ?

Aldo
22-06-2023, 05:34 PM
Aye cause there’s loads of clubs that have been desperate to sign Lewis Stevenson over the years eh, plenty out there that is better hibs just far to loyal to mediocrity

FFS. I cannot believe I’ve just read this.

Do you know if any club wanted to sign Lewis?? Maybe the club legend was happy to stay.

Question for you before you head to bed. Was he mediocre when he was lifting both the Scottish and League Cups??

LaMotta
22-06-2023, 05:36 PM
Surely you would focus on the defensive stats?

Well no, because the claim is that we became a far better team as a result of Jeggo coming along. Overall points is the best way to do that.

Interestingly though the defensive stats show similar, that there wasnt really much difference before he came- pre Jeggo we conceded 1.6 goals per game, post Jeggo conceded 1.4 goals per game. A marginal statistical defensive improvement.

But then so many variables affecting these outcomes ie Will Fish started playing regularly at the same time, Nisbet was back and scoring more etc etc. JDH came back. Egan Reilly playing.

So really I think the best way to judge him is on his individual performances. Every one can have their own opinions on those, I know some share mine and some disagree. But just think its worth dispelling the myth that he magically made us a better team overnight.

Caversham Green
22-06-2023, 05:36 PM
Hibs are closing in on a deal for defender Jordan Obita, who is a free agent following expiry of his contract with Wycombe Wanderers. With Croatian full-back Marijan Čabraja having returned home to sign for HNK Rijeka earlier this summer, Lee Johnson’s side are in the market for left-sided defensive options and 29-year-old Obita fits the bill, although he can also play further forward

Another one McDermott will know a lot about. He's a decent left back without being spectacular. A wee bit raw when he was at Reading (came through their academy I believe) but hopefully has matured by now. Not a bad signing, but not as exciting as Alfie if the latter has retained his sharpness in front of goal. All IMO of course. A good crosser of the ball IIRC.

B.H.F.C
22-06-2023, 05:44 PM
Left back is required for me. Thought Stevenson finished the season well but over the course of the season it was a weak position IMO.

Brightside
22-06-2023, 05:45 PM
We better get Oscar out on loan asap. At some point we might bring the players through and at least have them in match day squads every week. That commitment didn’t last long.

Hibby Kay-Yay
22-06-2023, 05:52 PM
Well no, because the claim is that we became a far better team as a result of Jeggo coming along. Overall points is the best way to do that.

Interestingly though the defensive stats show similar, that there wasnt really much difference before he came- pre Jeggo we conceded 1.6 goals per game, post Jeggo conceded 1.4 goals per game. A marginal statistical defensive improvement.

But then so many variables affecting these outcomes ie Will Fish started playing regularly at the same time, Nisbet was back and scoring more etc etc. JDH came back. Egan Reilly playing.

So really I think the best way to judge him is on his individual performances. Every one can have their own opinions on those, I know some share mine and some disagree. But just think its worth dispelling the myth that he magically made us a better team overnight.

People claiming we were a better team, not claiming that we won more points. I’d say that we did become a better team as he brought more balance and confidence to our defenders.

Also, having Porto in midfield was a poor choice. I’m glad that Ryan is playing well with Scotland, definitely a great player, but in the last few months with us, he was a bit more of a disruptive influence defensively for us as a team.

Billy Whizz
22-06-2023, 05:53 PM
We better get Oscar out on loan asap. At some point we might bring the players through and at least have them in match day squads every week. That commitment didn’t last long.

Oscar needs to play every week, other than in the development league
I’d rather we sent him out on loan, than having him on the bench every week, if he’s not going to be a regular starter

Hibbyradge
22-06-2023, 06:09 PM
Another English lower league gem no doubt, why can’t we ever just sign an SPL player and know what we’re getting.

We have signed several.

LaMotta
22-06-2023, 06:10 PM
People claiming we were a better team, not claiming that we won more points. I’d say that we did become a better team as he brought more balance and confidence to our defenders.

Also, having Porto in midfield was a poor choice. I’m glad that Ryan is playing well with Scotland, definitely a great player, but in the last few months with us, he was a bit more of a disruptive influence defensively for us as a team.

If we didnt pick up considerably more points then we weren't a considerably better team. We also didnt concede considerably less goals.

But lets say the defense was more balanced - if it was why is that all down to Jeggo and not Fish or Egan- Reilly?

HFC93
22-06-2023, 06:11 PM
Another English lower league gem no doubt, why can’t we ever just sign an SPL player and know what we’re getting.

Genuinely struggling to think of a SPFL left back who we could realistically sign and would improve us.

PHeffernan
22-06-2023, 06:14 PM
Oscar needs to play every week, other than in the development league
I’d rather we sent him out on loan, than having him on the bench every week, if he’s not going to be a regular starter

Agreed. He needs to play every week for his development and we need to be able to benchmark his level.
Only way to do both those things is for Oscar to go out on loan in the 2nd or 3rd tier.

MWHIBBIES
22-06-2023, 06:17 PM
Aye cause there’s loads of clubs that have been desperate to sign Lewis Stevenson over the years eh, plenty out there that is better hibs just far to loyal to mediocrity

Hibs won 8 trophies in 130 years before Lewis Stevenson

Hibs have won 2 trophies in 18 years since his debut.

I'm not so sure Lewis is our problem really.

Heisenberg
22-06-2023, 06:18 PM
Genuinely struggling to think of a SPFL left back who we could realistically sign and would improve us.

Only one I can think that stood out against us is Behich for United but he also played a part in their relegation and isn’t the youngest at 32.

Northernhibee
22-06-2023, 06:25 PM
See if we are going to sign a left back, can we no sign one that's actually better than Lewis Stevenson? What's the point man.

We've tried to, and Josh Doig aside he's seen them all off.

I wonder if people will realise how good a player he is only once he retires and we don't have him to rely on.

Caversham Green
22-06-2023, 06:29 PM
See if we are going to sign a left back, can we no sign one that's actually better than Lewis Stevenson? What's the point man.

Jordan Obita at 29 is probably a better left back than Lewis Stevenson at 35.

babahibs
22-06-2023, 06:33 PM
:faf:
Aye cause there’s loads of clubs that have been desperate to sign Lewis Stevenson over the years eh, plenty out there that is better hibs just far to loyal to mediocrity

IanM
22-06-2023, 06:39 PM
Hibs twitter announcing a signing - looks like Obita

weecounty hibby
22-06-2023, 06:39 PM
Signing incoming!!! New left back I think

WillowbraeHibby
22-06-2023, 06:40 PM
Hibs twitter announcing a signing - looks like Obita

8pm :greengrin

B.H.F.C
22-06-2023, 06:41 PM
We've tried to, and Josh Doig aside he's seen them all off.

I wonder if people will realise how good a player he is only once he retires and we don't have him to rely on.

I disagree that we’ve tried to replace him often. He made the left back position his when we went in to the championship and held on to it for 6 years until Doig came in. We signed quite a few players but they were mainly short term, back up options. We definitely signed Cabraja to be a first pick and that didn’t particularly work out but whilst Stevenson had a strong finish to the season, it was much of a muchness over the course of the season IMO.

Hibby Kay-Yay
22-06-2023, 06:46 PM
Hibs twitter announcing a signing - looks like Obita

It’s going to be the guy that won the bevvy competition :cb

Fergus52
22-06-2023, 06:52 PM
Sounds like John McGinn MKII. Enjoy him while we can before we are fending off big money bids! Joking aside, stats tell only part of a story. Newell was more consistent than previous seasons, but still went missing in more games than someone with his ability should have IMO. If you hadn’t had said who those stats were for I’d have thought they must have been a midfielder at a different team.

I don't think he was that inconsistent last season, even in games the whole team were poor he was still frequently winning the ball back and trying to make things happen.

Yeah those specific stats don't tell the full picture, he has some weaknesses that are really frustrating - he's pretty slow, gives away stupid fouls often, is poor in front of goal and is extremely one footed, never trying anything more than a simple pass when the ball is on his right side.

But barring once in a generation talents like mcginn and brown Hibs are never gonna have a complete midfielder, anyone playing central midfield for us will have some big weaknesses we need to work around. Newells statistically one of the very best ball winners in the league and has an excellent first touch and passing range, which more than makes up for his shortcomings imo.

I play football with a few Celtic and Aberdeen fans and they all rate him as one of the best players outside of the old firm in the league

GreenNWhiteArmy
22-06-2023, 07:00 PM
Jordan Obita is a Hibee

Ozyhibby
22-06-2023, 07:02 PM
Jordan Obita at 29 is probably a better left back than Lewis Stevenson at 35.

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brydekirk
22-06-2023, 07:03 PM
Jordan Obita is a Hibee

Looks a big unit.

Heisenberg
22-06-2023, 07:03 PM
“He gives us extra options all the way up the left hand-side and his ability from set plays will add an extra dimension to the squad. We look forward to working with him.”

Good to have an option for freekicks/corners too. Hopefully he can give Lewis a run for his money.

GreenNWhiteArmy
22-06-2023, 07:03 PM
“He gives us extra options all the way up the left hand-side and his ability from set plays will add an extra dimension to the squad. We look forward to working with him.”

Good to have an option for freekicks/corners too. Hopefully he can give Lewis a run for his money.

Hopefully an upgrade on Demi Mitchell

Brightside
22-06-2023, 07:04 PM
I'd rather signings like this than Dev squad fillers. We really don't want Lewis having to play every week so if this guy becomes the no1 good stuff. Get Oscar out on loan and have him ready to push for the spot in 12 months.

Vault Boy
22-06-2023, 07:05 PM
2 years with an option of a 3rd

Weststandwanab
22-06-2023, 07:06 PM
I don't think he was that inconsistent last season, even in games the whole team were poor he was still frequently winning the ball back and trying to make things happen.

Yeah those specific stats don't tell the full picture, he has some weaknesses that are really frustrating - he's pretty slow, gives away stupid fouls often, is poor in front of goal and is extremely one footed, never trying anything more than a simple pass when the ball is on his right side.

But barring once in a generation talents like mcginn and brown Hibs are never gonna have a complete midfielder, anyone playing central midfield for us will have some big weaknesses we need to work around. Newells statistically one of the very best ball winners in the league and has an excellent first touch and passing range, which more than makes up for his shortcomings imo.

I play football with a few Celtic and Aberdeen fans and they all rate him as one of the best players outside of the old firm in the league

I heard a certain Scott Allan describe Newell as a fantastic footballer and, in my opinion, he is correct.

Northernhibee
22-06-2023, 07:07 PM
I'd rather signings like this than Dev squad fillers. We really don't want Lewis having to play every week so if this guy becomes the no1 good stuff. Get Oscar out on loan and have him ready to push for the spot in 12 months.
It may also mean that if Oscar comes on leaps and bounds, we may need to accept this may be Lewie’s last year as a player at the club given that Obita has a two year contract.

Enjoy him whilst he’s here, and here’s hoping Obita and Lewis can bring out the best in each other.

Brightside
22-06-2023, 07:08 PM
It may also mean that if Oscar comes on leaps and bounds, we may need to accept this may be Lewie’s last year as a player at the club given that Obita has a two year contract.

Enjoy him whilst he’s here, and here’s hoping Obita and Lewis can bring out the best in each other.

Yeh it really should be Lewis last year.

JamesHFC
22-06-2023, 07:09 PM
Two experienced players so far this window, a contrast to last summer.

Mykola, Boruc, Fish, another CB & another one or two to come I guess.

lyonhibs
22-06-2023, 07:11 PM
Yeh it really should be Lewis last year.

"Should" it? I suspect he may well surprise you, as he has done many Hibs fans, rival left backs and managers in the past. The added competition is a good thing obviously

Since452
22-06-2023, 07:12 PM
Welcome to the rollercoaster Jordan

gbhibby
22-06-2023, 07:13 PM
“He gives us extra options all the way up the left hand-side and his ability from set plays will add an extra dimension to the squad. We look forward to working with him.”

Good to have an option for freekicks/corners too. Hopefully he can give Lewis a run for his money.
How many left backs has Lewis seen off
The defence will all be big units. Announce Fish please sure some on here will be working on a song for Jordan.

J-C
22-06-2023, 07:17 PM
It may also mean that if Oscar comes on leaps and bounds, we may need to accept this may be Lewie’s last year as a player at the club given that Obita has a two year contract.

Enjoy him whilst he’s here, and here’s hoping Obita and Lewis can bring out the best in each other.

Expect Lewis to go into coaching when he retires, been doing his badges and was instrumental in helping Doig become better.

bingo70
22-06-2023, 07:21 PM
Two experienced players so far this window, a contrast to last summer.

Mykola, Boruc, Fish, another CB & another one or two to come I guess.

Not really, we signed Marshall and McGeady last summer.

Silky
22-06-2023, 07:23 PM
Hopefully an upgrade on Demi Mitchell

Graham Mitchell would be an upgrade on Demi Mitchell.

Hibs90
22-06-2023, 07:26 PM
Is this our scouting network now? Ex Reading?


Only kidding..I hope.

Vault Boy
22-06-2023, 07:30 PM
Wycombe fans are gutted, which is a good sign.

Paulie Walnuts
22-06-2023, 07:30 PM
"Should" it? I suspect he may well surprise you, as he has done many Hibs fans, rival left backs and managers in the past. The added competition is a good thing obviously

I fully suspect Lewis will see off Obita. I don’t even really need to see Obita play to know that.

Risboro Hibby
22-06-2023, 07:34 PM
Yes I live just outside Wycombe. He is a good player and their fans are well hacked off he has left. So potential great signing.

Hibbyradge
22-06-2023, 07:35 PM
I fully suspect Lewis will see off Obita. I don’t even really need to see Obita play to know that.

I understand your thinking, but this time, Lewis will graciously stand aside and allow the next era to begin.

JamesHFC
22-06-2023, 07:35 PM
Not really, we signed Marshall and McGeady last summer.

Very true, forgot about them two 😂

Brightside
22-06-2023, 07:38 PM
"Should" it? I suspect he may well surprise you, as he has done many Hibs fans, rival left backs and managers in the past. The added competition is a good thing obviously

I’m a big fan of his. But he can’t keep playing for ever. 😂

JammyDoidger
22-06-2023, 07:40 PM
This boy was about to retire from football his injury's were that bad, sounds like a Hibs signing. Here's hoping he's class of course and stays injury free.

GreenNWhiteArmy
22-06-2023, 07:40 PM
Graham Mitchell would be an upgrade on Demi Mitchell.

As would Peggy, to be fair

HibbyAndy
22-06-2023, 07:41 PM
I’m a big fan of his. But he can’t keep playing for ever. 😂

He will keep playing till he's Hibs most record appearances :cb

weecounty hibby
22-06-2023, 07:44 PM
This boy was about to retire from football his injury's were that bad, sounds like a Hibs signing. Here's hoping he's class of course and stays injury free.

When? Recently or years ago with no issues for a long time?

JammyDoidger
22-06-2023, 07:46 PM
When? Recently or years ago with no issues for a long time?

According to transfermarkt he's missed 814 days of football injured one spell 645 days. 110 days missed last season.

SHODAN
22-06-2023, 07:46 PM
https://i.imgur.com/hU6o2xo.png

Lago
22-06-2023, 07:46 PM
Graham Mitchell would be an upgrade on Demi Mitchell.
Use to get complementary tickets for the old main stand from Graham back in the day.

Brightside
22-06-2023, 07:51 PM
When? Recently or years ago with no issues for a long time?

2017. 😂. Even for JD that’s a reach. His recent record is fine.

Mike_C
22-06-2023, 07:51 PM
Myko and Boruc signed apparently.

weecounty hibby
22-06-2023, 07:53 PM
2017. 😂. Even for JD that’s a reach. His recent record is fine.

Yeah, I kind of thought it was a while ago

JohnM1875
22-06-2023, 07:54 PM
Myko and Boruc signed apparently.

Myko permanent?

To be honest I'd prefer a loan with an option to buy. That way we can assess his injuries etc next season.

ElginHibbie
22-06-2023, 07:54 PM
According to transfermarkt he's missed 814 days of football injured one spell 645 days. 110 days missed last season.

That 110 days is since he last made an appearance, still going after season ended, so seems unfair to use that number

The 645 days also being over 3 years ago doesn't make me think something to worry about

SHODAN
22-06-2023, 07:54 PM
Squad so far:

GK: Marshall

RB: Miller, Cadden, Delferriere
CB: Hanlon, Bushiri
LB: Stevenson, Obita, MacIntyre

DM: Jeggo, Kenneh
CM: Newell, Doyle-Hayes
AM: Campbell, Henderson, Tait

W: Boyle, Youan, Tavares, Hauge
ST: Le Fondre, McKirdy, Doidge, Melkersen

SHODAN
22-06-2023, 07:55 PM
Myko permanent?

To be honest I'd prefer a loan with an option to buy. That way we can assess his injuries etc next season.

Same tbh. Clearly talented but 15 games last season wasn't a great return.

JammyDoidger
22-06-2023, 07:59 PM
That 110 days is since he last made an appearance, still going after season ended, so seems unfair to use that number

The 645 days also being over 3 years ago doesn't make me think something to worry about

Fair enough, still not one that excites me either way, I hope the next signings are statement ones.

Bridge hibs
22-06-2023, 07:59 PM
That 110 days is since he last made an appearance, still going after season ended, so seems unfair to use that number

The 645 days also being over 3 years ago doesn't make me think something to worry about
Yip acl injury which required an operation after colliding with the advertising boards in the final minutes of a Reading v Hull game, **** happens eh

CL0762
22-06-2023, 08:15 PM
Another English lower league gem no doubt, why can’t we ever just sign an SPL player and know what we’re getting.

Given the SPL doesn’t exist anymore I’m intrigued who you think would be better.

Greencore
22-06-2023, 08:23 PM
Given the SPL doesn’t exist anymore I’m intrigued who you think would be better.

I'd take James Penrice from livi

04Sauzee
22-06-2023, 08:35 PM
https://gasroom.org/discussion/8281/obita-joins-hibs

From the Wycombe forum

ErinGoBraghHFC
22-06-2023, 08:43 PM
Another English lower league gem no doubt, why can’t we ever just sign an SPL player and know what we’re getting.

Does the championship count as lower league?


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Hibernian Verse
22-06-2023, 08:45 PM
https://gasroom.org/discussion/8281/obita-joins-hibs

From the Wycombe forum

Just the one post slaying the standard of Scottish football. Not bad.

Just_Jimmy
22-06-2023, 08:45 PM
https://gasroom.org/discussion/8281/obita-joins-hibs

From the Wycombe forumVery respectful of both the player and Hibs.

Good luck to them this season.

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Unseen work
22-06-2023, 09:01 PM
I’m sure he was mentioned for hearts or Aberdeen before, don’t know if it was a genuine rumour or an article like the EEN do about players they could sign.

Remember at the time searching him and everything I read was saying he was a good player.

Interesting on the forum linked some mention him as a forward

Unseen work
22-06-2023, 09:02 PM
I notice young Laidlaw follows him on Instagram…..is that from keeping an interest as he’s a fan or because he’s met him and he’s signed an extension?👀

MrRobot
22-06-2023, 09:05 PM
Myko permanently would be unreal business imo

Donegal Hibby
22-06-2023, 09:06 PM
We lost far too many points to bottom 6 teams. That’s wasn’t down to being poor defensively. If we beat all the bottom 6 teams you come 3rd. We won’t be getting another RB or LB. We have Oscar and Megwa.
Did say we needed a LB :wink:

Unseen work
22-06-2023, 09:09 PM
Myko permanently would be unreal business imo

Agree, really good young player with loads of potential

Hibeewilly
22-06-2023, 09:15 PM
https://gasroom.org/discussion/8281/obita-joins-hibs

From the Wycombe forum

They're certainly not gutted as a previous poster said. Hopefully McDermott has got it right though and he becomes an asset