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MWHIBBIES
13-07-2023, 01:42 PM
It utterly terrifies me how much we are into Jair.

Last season's marquee signing, given the 10 shirt, paid a 6-figure fee to Benfica and then given a 4-year deal.

Can't see anyone taking that off us in a hurry. Odds on we'll be subbing his wages til his deal ends.

Marquee signing? Think that's a reach considering we got Martin Boyle.

Paulie Walnuts
13-07-2023, 01:54 PM
My memory of us signing him is very different. I don't ever remember him being anything like a "marquee" signing.

He was just a signing, a young guy from a B team.

Nobody knows what we're paying him, and I highly doubt we paid 6 figures for him.

It's all a bit Chris Mueller and his £10k a week, for me. Just not true.

Lee Johnson’s comments on him hyped him up quite a bit. I wouldn’t go as far as saying he was our marquee signing but LJ kept was at pains to stress how he was stunned we managed to get him.

jeffers
13-07-2023, 02:01 PM
OK OK we get your point. You don't know and reckon nobody else knows. That's fine.

While some individuals clearly do make things up I always find it interesting that people refuse to accept that information regarding players wages does actually get known to more than just the players themselves and their agents.

Brightside
13-07-2023, 02:09 PM
Marquee signing? Think that's a reach considering we got Martin Boyle.

He was very much hyped up by the club. Even LJ has suggested we maybe shouldn't do that......

ScottB
13-07-2023, 02:17 PM
You don’t give someone intended for the dev squad the number 10 shirt. Fine, he’s ended up there because he struggled to adapt etc, so be it, but I suspect the intent / hope was that they’d signed a first team starter.

easty
13-07-2023, 02:21 PM
While some individuals clearly do make things up I always find it interesting that people refuse to accept that information regarding players wages does actually get known to more than just the players themselves and their agents.

I'd bet 99% of the time, the person talking about how much X earns, doesn't know. It'll have come from a mate, who heard it from a mate, who read it here from a guy who claims to be in the know, who isn't.

And, if people do know what Jair is paid, why does nobody seem to know how much it is...just that it's a lot?

Hibees1973
13-07-2023, 02:22 PM
It's obvious that the signing of players like Jair, Hauge & Bojang (even if he was just a loan, what the heck was that about) reveals why Kensall & Ron said before he passed away that 'mistakes have been made and lessons have been learned'.

You do wonder what credentials these players had in the eyes of our recruitment team before they were signed. Not just these three but numerous others had only played a handful of first team games and came from non descript leagues.

Fine have the odd punt, but the previous transfer windows were a shambles. Since he joined a lot of McDermott's time and effort has been spent clearing up the mess.

When you look at our squad there are still a good six or seven still to be shifted.

brog
13-07-2023, 02:30 PM
[QUOTE=superfurryhibby;7392252]I would save your terror for something that more worthy of fear.
Yes, he's been a crap signing, but we don't know what fee, if any, was paid, nor do we know his wages or how he could develop or what terms he will leave on.

Couldn't agree more. If Hibs making crap signings was the criteria then I would have been terrified for over 60 years. Yes Harvey McCreadie, some of us remember!

Jones28
13-07-2023, 02:35 PM
It's obvious that the signing of players like Jair, Hauge & Bojang (even if he was just a loan, what the heck was that about) reveals why Kensall & Ron said before he passed away that 'mistakes have been made and lessons have been learned'.

You do wonder what credentials these players had in the eyes of our recruitment team before they were signed. Not just these three but numerous others had only played a handful of first team games and came from non descript leagues.

Fine have the odd punt, but the previous transfer windows were a shambles. Since he joined a lot of McDermott's time and effort has been spent clearing up the mess.

When you look at our squad there are still a good six or seven still to be shifted.

You're asking for a hell of a lot if you're wanting 7 players moved on after the clear out we've had.

Incidentally who are you wanting moved on?

1. David Marshall
2. Lewis Miller
4. Paul Hanlon
7. Elie Youan
8. Jake Doyle-Hayes
10. Martin Boyle
11. Joe Newell
12. Chris Cadden
13. Jojo Wollacott NEW
14. Jimmy Jeggo
16. Lewis Stevenson
18. Ewan Henderson
19. Adam Le Fondre NEW
20. Elias Melkersen
21. Jordan Obita NEW
22. Harry McKirdy
23. Christian Doidge
24. Nohan Kenneh
25. Max Boruc NEW
27. Daniel MacKay
28. Allan Delferrière
29. Jair Tavares
32. Josh Campbell
33. Rocky Bushiri

Maybe, maybe Henderson, Tavares and at a push Delferriere - but I'd rather keep Delf.

04Sauzee
13-07-2023, 02:40 PM
You're asking for a hell of a lot if you're wanting 7 players moved on after the clear out we've had.

Incidentally who are you wanting moved on?

1. David Marshall
2. Lewis Miller
4. Paul Hanlon
7. Elie Youan
8. Jake Doyle-Hayes
10. Martin Boyle
11. Joe Newell
12. Chris Cadden
13. Jojo Wollacott NEW
14. Jimmy Jeggo
16. Lewis Stevenson
18. Ewan Henderson
19. Adam Le Fondre NEW
20. Elias Melkersen
21. Jordan Obita NEW
22. Harry McKirdy
23. Christian Doidge
24. Nohan Kenneh
25. Max Boruc NEW
27. Daniel MacKay
28. Allan Delferrière
29. Jair Tavares
32. Josh Campbell
33. Rocky Bushiri

Maybe, maybe Henderson, Tavares and at a push Delferriere - but I'd rather keep Delf.
I think Doidge will be off

SickBoy32
13-07-2023, 02:40 PM
You're asking for a hell of a lot if you're wanting 7 players moved on after the clear out we've had.

Incidentally who are you wanting moved on?

The below could all leave tomorrow and have minimal (probably closer to zero) impact on our season

Tavares
Henderson
Kenneh
McLelland
Melkerson
McKirdy (not possible anymore obviously)
Doidge (sadly)

Would free up a sizeable amount in wages, which would in theory give Brian half a chance to go and get us some decent players

ancient hibee
13-07-2023, 02:55 PM
[QUOTE=superfurryhibby;7392252]I would save your terror for something that more worthy of fear.
Yes, he's been a crap signing, but we don't know what fee, if any, was paid, nor do we know his wages or how he could develop or what terms he will leave on.

Couldn't agree more. If Hibs making crap signings was the criteria then I would have been terrified for over 60 years. Yes Harvey McCreadie, some of us remember!

Or the wrong Caughey(allegedly) or Ally Scott who made Rowan Vine look like Pele.

Since452
13-07-2023, 02:56 PM
How much was he on?

I don't think his weekly wage will be 4 figures. None of us will know i guess.

StantonDelivered
13-07-2023, 03:00 PM
Bad maths

It's actually arithmetic.:greengrin

nonshinyfinish
13-07-2023, 03:01 PM
It's actually arithmetic.:greengrin

Arithmetic is a branch of mathematics, so it's not wrong to call it maths.

Alex Trager
13-07-2023, 03:01 PM
It's actually arithmetic.:greengrin

It’s actually Marithmatic

B.H.F.C
13-07-2023, 03:05 PM
Whilst I’m quite happy with the way we’re going about things, when you take a look at the team, and more so the bench, got tonight it shows how much work we still have to do.

We could really be doing with one or two of the young players stepping up to boost the squad.

Brightside
13-07-2023, 03:14 PM
I don't think his weekly wage will be 4 figures. None of us will know i guess.

You'll struggle to find a player at Hibs outside of the young boys just moving up who isn't on 4 figures.

Highwayman
13-07-2023, 03:27 PM
[QUOTE=superfurryhibby;7392252]I would save your terror for something that more worthy of fear.
Yes, he's been a crap signing, but we don't know what fee, if any, was paid, nor do we know his wages or how he could develop or what terms he will leave on.

Couldn't agree more. If Hibs making crap signings was the criteria then I would have been terrified for over 60 years. Yes Harvey McCreadie, some of us remember!

I’ve still got an autograph book with Harvey Mcreadie’s signature in it.Quantity rather than quality was how I collected autographs back in the day.

NAE NOOKIE
13-07-2023, 03:54 PM
He probably means Josh.:greengrin

He did ...... I was just having a wee laugh ... fact is this year, just like every other year, I know absolutely nothing :greengrin

Unseen work
13-07-2023, 03:59 PM
Couple of (minor) injuries for the game today which shows just how much work still needs be done in the transfer window

jeffers
13-07-2023, 04:11 PM
I'd bet 99% of the time, the person talking about how much X earns, doesn't know. It'll have come from a mate, who heard it from a mate, who read it here from a guy who claims to be in the know, who isn't.

And, if people do know what Jair is paid, why does nobody seem to know how much it is...just that it's a lot?

I’m not disagreeing, just making the point that some people do know. In Jair’s case Brooster previously did post what he was on, same figure I heard. I also know the amount another player is on ‘cos he told all his team mates after being fined a weeks wage for a disciplinary matter.

Hibees1973
13-07-2023, 04:59 PM
You're asking for a hell of a lot if you're wanting 7 players moved on after the clear out we've had.

Incidentally who are you wanting moved on?

1. David Marshall
2. Lewis Miller
4. Paul Hanlon
7. Elie Youan
8. Jake Doyle-Hayes
10. Martin Boyle
11. Joe Newell
12. Chris Cadden
13. Jojo Wollacott NEW
14. Jimmy Jeggo
16. Lewis Stevenson
18. Ewan Henderson
19. Adam Le Fondre NEW
20. Elias Melkersen
21. Jordan Obita NEW
22. Harry McKirdy
23. Christian Doidge
24. Nohan Kenneh
25. Max Boruc NEW
27. Daniel MacKay
28. Allan Delferrière
29. Jair Tavares
32. Josh Campbell
33. Rocky Bushiri

Maybe, maybe Henderson, Tavares and at a push Delferriere - but I'd rather keep Delf.

Henderson
Melkersen
McKirdy...retain and support through his illness but not good enough for the 1st team
Doidge
Kenneh
MacKay
Tavares

I could have also added Delferriere, but I would give him one more season to give him a chance to breakthrough.

If our ambition is to be 3rd and get to the Euro Conf Group stages we need to replace these guys and bring in much better quality. I agree with you that we have moved a few out but my feeling is that the last two or three transfer windows have been really poor. We have shipped a lot out already but it is telling that most of the one's I have mentioned have just been signed in the last year and a half.

At present the squad is not good enough to achieve the targets most of us want.

Since452
13-07-2023, 05:24 PM
You're asking for a hell of a lot if you're wanting 7 players moved on after the clear out we've had.

Incidentally who are you wanting moved on?

1. David Marshall
2. Lewis Miller
4. Paul Hanlon
7. Elie Youan
8. Jake Doyle-Hayes
10. Martin Boyle
11. Joe Newell
12. Chris Cadden
13. Jojo Wollacott NEW
14. Jimmy Jeggo
16. Lewis Stevenson
18. Ewan Henderson
19. Adam Le Fondre NEW
20. Elias Melkersen
21. Jordan Obita NEW
22. Harry McKirdy
23. Christian Doidge
24. Nohan Kenneh
25. Max Boruc NEW
27. Daniel MacKay
28. Allan Delferrière
29. Jair Tavares
32. Josh Campbell
33. Rocky Bushiri

Maybe, maybe Henderson, Tavares and at a push Delferriere - but I'd rather keep Delf.

Thought that was last seasons injury list for a second

Paulie Walnuts
13-07-2023, 05:32 PM
You'll struggle to find a player at Hibs outside of the young boys just moving up who isn't on 4 figures.

:agree:

Especially foreign guys who were on the fringes at a team like Bodo/Glimt. They’re not coming over here for £35k a year or so, they’d just stay in Norway rather than having the added hassle of trying to adapt to a different culture.

Jones28
13-07-2023, 05:47 PM
Henderson
Melkersen
McKirdy...retain and support through his illness but not good enough for the 1st team
Doidge
Kenneh
MacKay
Tavares

I could have also added Delferriere, but I would give him one more season to give him a chance to breakthrough.

If our ambition is to be 3rd and get to the Euro Conf Group stages we need to replace these guys and bring in much better quality. I agree with you that we have moved a few out but my feeling is that the last two or three transfer windows have been really poor. We have shipped a lot out already but it is telling that most of the one's I have mentioned have just been signed in the last year and a half.

At present the squad is not good enough to achieve the targets most of us want.

I don’t think some of the players have had enough time to show if they’re good enough or not.

Melkersen, Kenneh, McKay, Tavares and I would potentially argue McKirdy haven’t had that time.

I’d say for Doidge he was a key component in our third place finish in 2020, he’s a known quantity and there’s no harm in at least keeping him as back up for the season ahead. He’s a useful guy to have around.

hhibs
13-07-2023, 05:52 PM
Campbell will be a Hibs player before the week is out, you heard it here first :aok:


Aye,Josh Campbell !

#2 Double Tap
13-07-2023, 06:06 PM
I don’t think some of the players have had enough time to show if they’re good enough or not.

Melkersen, Kenneh, McKay, Tavares and I would potentially argue McKirdy haven’t had that time.

I’d say for Doidge he was a key component in our third place finish in 2020, he’s a known quantity and there’s no harm in at least keeping him as back up for the season ahead. He’s a useful guy to have around.

mckirdy has had loadsa minutes, not even a goal.....melkerseen too i really want him to be good, but he doesnt do it, kenneh has played alota fitbal last year, tavares probly not, but from what we have seen do you think he deserves another game? looked really fast, but proper light weight and shoved of the ball too easy.

i liked doidge, but he was hopeless before we sent him out on loan to killie

Smartie
13-07-2023, 06:41 PM
Couple of (minor) injuries for the game today which shows just how much work still needs be done in the transfer window

I’m really happy with how strong the first team is shaping up to be but the squad does look paper thin still.

Our bench doesn’t look strong and we’re maybe only an injury or suspension or two away from looking much weakened.

Hard to know how to address that - signings to displace current first choices to squad players won’t come cheap but it feels a bit weird buying players to pad out a squad.

NAE NOOKIE
13-07-2023, 06:56 PM
I’m really happy with how strong the first team is shaping up to be but the squad does look paper thin still.

Our bench doesn’t look strong and we’re maybe only an injury or suspension or two away from looking much weakened.

Hard to know how to address that - signings to displace current first choices to squad players won’t come cheap but it feels a bit weird buying players to pad out a squad.

Highlighted today when we ended up with Campbell at right back and Kenneh at centre half ... in the absence of Obita, Miller and Fish our inability to put specialists into these positions was horribly exposed. And boy do we need a striker ... even with 3 opportunities to do it LJ still refused to give Melkersen a go through the middle ... we have no end of players who can play on the wings compared to other positions, what the hell is the point of Melkersen out there, or even being at the club at all if he isn't given the chance to play as a striker, which is why we signed him IIRC.

No doubt about it, unless by some miracle we go the season with minimal injuries to key players ( some chance with our history ) we are going to have to make a few more signings to give us strength off the bench.

Alex Trager
13-07-2023, 07:02 PM
I’m really happy with how strong the first team is shaping up to be but the squad does look paper thin still.

Our bench doesn’t look strong and we’re maybe only an injury or suspension or two away from looking much weakened.

Hard to know how to address that - signings to displace current first choices to squad players won’t come cheap but it feels a bit weird buying players to pad out a squad.
That’s exactly what we need to do if we are to progress. There will be a few players that are brought in (not necessarily now) that will be squad fillers but we need starting quality in this team.

2 CB’s.
CM.
CF.

JohnM1875
13-07-2023, 07:09 PM
Highlighted today when we ended up with Campbell at right back and Kenneh at centre half ... in the absence of Obita, Miller and Fish our inability to put specialists into these positions was horribly exposed. And boy do we need a striker ... even with 3 opportunities to do it LJ still refused to give Melkersen a go through the middle ... we have no end of players who can play on the wings compared to other positions, what the hell is the point of Melkersen out there, or even being at the club at all if he isn't given the chance to play as a striker, which is why we signed him IIRC.

No doubt about it, unless by some miracle we go the season with minimal injuries to key players ( some chance with our history ) we are going to have to make a few more signings to give us strength off the bench.

Agree about Melkersen. No idea why we didn't just sub ALF off, play Melkersen through the middle and MacKay and Youan on the wings.

Unless of course he just isn't doing it in training through the middle. Just can't see him having a future here if we're going to use him as a winger.

LaMotta
13-07-2023, 07:14 PM
Melkerson had a great opportunity today during the game but fluffed his lines. Really not sure he will be as good through the middle as some are hoping for.

Beimg honest he's shown us very little since the first 45 mins at Fir Park 18 months ago. I'd be worried if he was starting for us when the season comes around.

K-Zazu
13-07-2023, 07:22 PM
Melkerson had a great opportunity today during the game but fluffed his lines. Really not sure he will be as good through the middle as some are hoping for.

Beimg honest he's shown us very little since the first 45 mins at Fir Park 18 months ago. I'd be worried if he was starting for us when the season comes around.

Agreed, what’s his attributes? Everyone on here says he makes good runs/good movement etc .. doesn’t look like he has any pace or can win a header. Just don’t see it working

MWHIBBIES
13-07-2023, 07:53 PM
Melkerson had a great opportunity today during the game but fluffed his lines. Really not sure he will be as good through the middle as some are hoping for.

Beimg honest he's shown us very little since the first 45 mins at Fir Park 18 months ago. I'd be worried if he was starting for us when the season comes around.

Today wasn't the day to judge him. Based on today, we've got no one.

He was playing out of position in a team who couldn't string 2 passes together. Had no chance.

Jones28
13-07-2023, 08:27 PM
mckirdy has had loadsa minutes, not even a goal.....melkerseen too i really want him to be good, but he doesnt do it, kenneh has played alota fitbal last year, tavares probly not, but from what we have seen do you think he deserves another game? looked really fast, but proper light weight and shoved of the ball too easy.

i liked doidge, but he was hopeless before we sent him out on loan to killie

Doidge has shown some great touches in the last few matches. Tavares I’m less convinced about but I still want to give him a chance to come good. Melkersen is one I have really high hopes for. He needs a couple of goals and a good run in the side. Kennah too. But most of all they need a bit patience. Kennahs first game of professional competitive football was with us at the start of last season.

LaMotta
13-07-2023, 08:32 PM
Today wasn't the day to judge him. Based on today, we've got no one.

He was playing out of position in a team who couldn't string 2 passes together. Had no chance.

I'm basing him on his entire time at Hibs unfortunately. Remember his sitter v Dundee United (I think) that could have secured us top 6? Little to suggest he's a clinical striker at this level.

B.H.F.C
13-07-2023, 08:36 PM
Doidge has shown some great touches in the last few matches. Tavares I’m less convinced about but I still want to give him a chance to come good. Melkersen is one I have really high hopes for. He needs a couple of goals and a good run in the side. Kennah too. But most of all they need a bit patience. Kennahs first game of professional competitive football was with us at the start of last season.

Don’t think we have time to be patient. We enter two cup competitions in the next month and we need to make the most of a favourable start in the league. We need players in the squad who are going to contribute right away.

Reading Johnson’s comments on Doidge I think it’s pretty clear we’re looking to move him on. Tavares isn’t even part of the squad. It wouldn’t surprise me if we try to get Kenneh out the door. Melkersen a lot of people keep hoping he will do well, me included, but in reality he’s not any further forward than he was a year ago by the looks of things.

MWHIBBIES
13-07-2023, 08:37 PM
I'm basing him on his entire time at Hibs unfortunately. Remember his sitter v Dundee United (I think) that could have secured us top 6? Little to suggest he's a clinical striker at this level.

Could name any striker we've ever had who has missed a big chance.

I feel a bit for him. Had some poor games, but clearly not suited to our ''they pressed us, we've no idea what to do, kick it forward'' strategy.

Paulie Walnuts
13-07-2023, 08:39 PM
Don’t think we have time to be patient. We enter two cup competitions in the next month and we need to make the most of a favourable start in the league. We need players in the squad who are going to contribute right away.

Reading Johnson’s comments on Doidge I think it’s pretty clear we’re looking to talk him up. Tavares isn’t even part of the squad. It wouldn’t surprise me if we try to get Kenneh out the door. Melkersen a lot of people keep hoping he will do well, me included, but in reality he’s not any further forward than he was a year ago by the looks of things.

:agree:

We can’t afford to just give guys like Melkersen a run of consecutive games as a centre forward in the hope he does well. From what we’ve seen so far he’s not good enough and we’d likely lose points because of it.

jeffers
13-07-2023, 08:53 PM
Don’t think we have time to be patient. We enter two cup competitions in the next month and we need to make the most of a favourable start in the league. We need players in the squad who are going to contribute right away.

Reading Johnson’s comments on Doidge I think it’s pretty clear we’re looking to move him on. Tavares isn’t even part of the squad. It wouldn’t surprise me if we try to get Kenneh out the door. Melkersen a lot of people keep hoping he will do well, me included, but in reality he’s not any further forward than he was a year ago by the looks of things.

Doidge, Henderson, Tavares and Kenneh are 4 I’m sure we are looking to move on. I really hope McKay gets a chance this season. Whether he’s good enough to get a regular game I don’t know, but he’s definitely an improvement off the bench than we had last season imo.

LaMotta
13-07-2023, 08:55 PM
Could name any striker we've ever had who has missed a big chance.

I feel a bit for him. Had some poor games, but clearly not suited to our ''they pressed us, we've no idea what to do, kick it forward'' strategy.

Agree with your first sentence, but then if they score goals regularly then it doesn't matter too much.

LaMotta
13-07-2023, 08:56 PM
Don’t think we have time to be patient. We enter two cup competitions in the next month and we need to make the most of a favourable start in the league. We need players in the squad who are going to contribute right away.

Reading Johnson’s comments on Doidge I think it’s pretty clear we’re looking to move him on. Tavares isn’t even part of the squad. It wouldn’t surprise me if we try to get Kenneh out the door. Melkersen a lot of people keep hoping he will do well, me included, but in reality he’s not any further forward than he was a year ago by the looks of things.


:agree:

We can’t afford to just give guys like Melkersen a run of consecutive games as a centre forward in the hope he does well. From what we’ve seen so far he’s not good enough and we’d likely lose points because of it.

:agree::agree:

Dmas
14-07-2023, 05:38 AM
That’s exactly what we need to do if we are to progress. There will be a few players that are brought in (not necessarily now) that will be squad fillers but we need starting quality in this team.

2 CB’s.
CM.
CF.

This squad filler thing and not being able to afford starting quality to be on the bench bothers me it surely can’t be true, we should be looking at a first team squad of 23/25 players and surely out of that your after 18 minimum of being able to play and compete in the first team with maybe 5 or so young guys like the young guys away to Spain looking to bleed in.
I worry about our lack of options off the bench it hurt us massively last year between January and now we’ve moved on a lot of players and rightly so but we need more in, the possibility of 4 more coming in is positive but I’m not sure it’s enough.

Alex Trager
14-07-2023, 07:03 AM
This squad filler thing and not being able to afford starting quality to be on the bench bothers me it surely can’t be true, we should be looking at a first team squad of 23/25 players and surely out of that your after 18 minimum of being able to play and compete in the first team with maybe 5 or so young guys like the young guys away to Spain looking to bleed in.
I worry about our lack of options off the bench it hurt us massively last year between January and now we’ve moved on a lot of players and rightly so but we need more in, the possibility of 4 more coming in is positive but I’m not sure it’s enough.
I’d agree mate. The squad needs a lot of work. They four positions are where I would be looking to fill.

If we continue to lose players, which we all want because a lot are not good enough, then we need to add more than four.

Ideally bringing in players with enough quality who will relegate those who are in the first team to the bench. Then we would have a strong squad.

That’s how we move forward. Simplistic and idealistic I know.

Shrekko
14-07-2023, 08:22 AM
Could name any striker we've ever had who has missed a big chance.

I feel a bit for him. Had some poor games, but clearly not suited to our ''they pressed us, we've no idea what to do, kick it forward'' strategy.

But yet good players like Kevin Nisbet still managed to shine....

MWHIBBIES
14-07-2023, 08:24 AM
But yet good players like Kevin Nisbet still managed to shine....

Yes, as Nisbet is a totally different player and worked in our system. And yes, he's also better. And he had plenty of dreadful games too.

Shrekko
14-07-2023, 09:05 AM
Yes, as Nisbet is a totally different player and worked in our system. And yes, he's also better. And he had plenty of dreadful games too.

I always find it hard to go with reasons other than the players actual ability for them looking bad. A good player will always shine in some way. Melkerson gave us hope with that first game but it's hard to argue that he's looked way out of his depth ever since- and it's for reasons like his first touch, awareness, finishing, passing etc.

It's having him so close to potentially playing that make me feel we definitely need at least one other striker in this window.

Dmas
14-07-2023, 10:03 AM
I’d agree mate. The squad needs a lot of work. They four positions are where I would be looking to fill.

If we continue to lose players, which we all want because a lot are not good enough, then we need to add more than four.

Ideally bringing in players with enough quality who will relegate those who are in the first team to the bench. Then we would have a strong squad.

That’s how we move forward. Simplistic and idealistic I know.

Should definitely be positions in the squad where every now and then a manager has a ‘selection headache’ right now and thinking about it quite sometime now our squad picks itself if everyone is fit and firing because of the lack of squad depth

Since452
14-07-2023, 10:06 AM
:agree:

We can’t afford to just give guys like Melkersen a run of consecutive games as a centre forward in the hope he does well. From what we’ve seen so far he’s not good enough and we’d likely lose points because of it.

Agree. It's a statement that really grinds my gears. We aren't in a position just to give someone a run of games in the hope they finally come good. Was said about McKirdy too. If they can't hit the ground running get rid of them.

Paulie Walnuts
14-07-2023, 10:09 AM
Agree. It's a statement that really grinds my gears. We aren't in a position just to give someone a run of games in the hope they finally come good. Was said about McKirdy too. If they can't hit the ground running get rid of them.

Yup.

What qualifies players for a run of games? If everyone deserves it we’d never have a settled 11. Do we need to start Henderson 4 or 5 games in a row as well? Tavares?

We’d likely be battling relegation if we started giving a couple sub standard players a run of games every week.

flash
14-07-2023, 10:12 AM
It's almost as if nobody ever comes good after a sticky start.

stoneyburn hibs
14-07-2023, 10:14 AM
I think it's about time for us to sign another rejected youngster from Hearts.

CapitalGreen
14-07-2023, 10:29 AM
Agree. It's a statement that really grinds my gears. We aren't in a position just to give someone a run of games in the hope they finally come good. Was said about McKirdy too. If they can't hit the ground running get rid of them.

It’s preseason just now though so we can afford to give players game time in their correct positions. It would be a lot more valuable giving Melkerson some minutes through the middle rather than continually giving those minutes to Doidge who we have been actively trying to move on for over a year.

Jones28
14-07-2023, 10:38 AM
It's almost as if nobody ever comes good after a sticky start.

Exactly.

Will Fish was written off after 1 game and now we are clamoring for his signature.

Youan was slaughtered after a bad game at Ibrox.

Jones28
14-07-2023, 10:40 AM
It’s preseason just now though so we can afford to give players game time in their correct positions. It would be a lot more valuable giving Melkerson some minutes through the middle rather than continually giving those minutes to Doidge who we have been actively trying to move on for over a year.

:agree:

As much as I don't think we desperately need to move Doidge on - his stepover last night is worth an extra year alone - if we are trying to shift him he should be nowhere near a squad training camp IMO.

Smartie
14-07-2023, 10:40 AM
It’s preseason just now though so we can afford to give players game time in their correct positions. It would be a lot more valuable giving Melkerson some minutes through the middle rather than continually giving those minutes to Doidge who we have been actively trying to move on for over a year.

I don't think either of those players are close to being the answer, therefore it almost doesn't matter which one of them plays at the moment.

They're keeping the shirt warm for someone else who is yet to arrive, then we need to replace them to make sure we're not relying on them to come off the bench and make a difference.

Unseen work
14-07-2023, 10:49 AM
Stuart Findlay supposedly resigning for Killie.

Surprised we’re not in for him given our link in January

Greenio
14-07-2023, 11:03 AM
I think Doidge should be kept - there I said it

Wheat Hound
14-07-2023, 11:05 AM
Stuart Findlay supposedly resigning for Killie.

Surprised we’re not in for him given our link in January

Just confirmed by Killie.

I would have liked him for Hibs too but Fish is much better.

Since452
14-07-2023, 11:05 AM
I think Doidge should be kept - there I said it

He'll be here until we bring in a number 9 i'd imagine.

04Sauzee
14-07-2023, 11:12 AM
Stuart Findlay back at Killie on a season long loan. Be interesting to see how he does after us being linked with him in January.

Edit .already posted above

Jones28
14-07-2023, 11:16 AM
I think Doidge should be kept - there I said it

Me too :agree:

badabing67
14-07-2023, 11:20 AM
Looks like he is away though

(2) Edinburgh Live Sport on Twitter: "Christian Doidge ‘set’ for Hibs exit as Lee Johnson admits quintuple of clubs hold interest in striker https://t.co/N5dE3nJfS6" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/EdLiveSport/status/1679805064976781313?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)

McGruber
14-07-2023, 11:22 AM
It's almost as if nobody ever comes good after a sticky start.

Some off the top of my head

Newell
Doidge
Youan
Campbell
Darren Jackson - throw back I know

CapitalGreen
14-07-2023, 11:22 AM
I think Doidge should be kept - there I said it

Even if keeping him prevents us bringing in a quality Nisbet replacement?

Steven79
14-07-2023, 11:29 AM
Even if keeping him prevents us bringing in a quality Nisbet replacement?It won't as we should have plenty of wages free to bring another striker in.

But I would still sell move him on as I'm not convinced he will be good enough.

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Brightside
14-07-2023, 11:31 AM
Looks like he is away though

(2) Edinburgh Live Sport on Twitter: "Christian Doidge ‘set’ for Hibs exit as Lee Johnson admits quintuple of clubs hold interest in striker https://t.co/N5dE3nJfS6" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/EdLiveSport/status/1679805064976781313?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)

Thats been on the go for a week now. Offers there but its up to him if he wants to go .

04Sauzee
14-07-2023, 11:41 AM
Ayr United have excepted a bid from National League Side York City for their striker Dipo Akinyemi.

SaulGoodman
14-07-2023, 11:46 AM
Ayr United have excepted a bid from National League Side York City for their striker Dipo Akinyemi.

Christ

badabing67
14-07-2023, 12:00 PM
Thats been on the go for a week now. Offers there but its up to him if he wants to go .#

That's true but if he is not gonna get a game is there any point staying, he will only end up on loan again. Therefore I think he will be away imo. I would prefer we keep him in the squad going in.to next season, but its LJ's decision and if he is not in his thinking then its best for both parties to part ways

hhibs
14-07-2023, 12:04 PM
Ayr United have excepted a bid from National League Side York City for their striker Dipo Akinyemi.


Thought we might have been one of the clubs that were showing interest in him?

Got to wonder about the fee paid and likely wages at York City,some NL sides pay incredible money. York City ground only holds 8,500 so money must be coming in some other way.

Hibernian Verse
14-07-2023, 12:06 PM
Thought we might have been one of the clubs that were showing interest in him?

Got to wonder about the fee paid and likely wages at York City,some NL sides pay incredible money. York City ground only holds 8,500 so money must be coming in some other way.

If he was good enough he'd be playing in the top league here IMO, or League 1 down South.

Godsahibby
14-07-2023, 12:28 PM
Thought we might have been one of the clubs that were showing interest in him?

Got to wonder about the fee paid and likely wages at York City,some NL sides pay incredible money. York City ground only holds 8,500 so money must be coming in some other way.

York have a new owner and has been splashing a bit of cash. Paid a few fees for players this window.

easty
14-07-2023, 02:08 PM
Ayr United have excepted a bid from National League Side York City for their striker Dipo Akinyemi.

I saw him a few times live on Alba and he always looked humpty.

Cannae argue with his goal scoring over the course of last season but he never looked SPL quality.

Shrekko
14-07-2023, 03:02 PM
Exactly.

Will Fish was written off after 1 game and now we are clamoring for his signature.

Youan was slaughtered after a bad game at Ibrox.

Melkerson has had a season and a half- it's not comparing like for like is it?

We all (should) know it's stupid to write off a player straight away but surely you agree Melkerson has to start showing something pretty soon?

On the evidence of what's been seen so far I wouldn't want to rely on him.

04Sauzee
14-07-2023, 03:10 PM
Reading Dundee Utd are supposedly close to signing Anthony Stewart. He was horrific for Aberdeen so I'm surprised Goodwin wants him at Utd

B.H.F.C
14-07-2023, 03:18 PM
Reading Dundee Utd are supposedly close to signing Anthony Stewart. He was horrific for Aberdeen so I'm surprised Goodwin wants him at Utd

When we beat them 6-0 it was probably the worst performance I’ve ever seen from a centre half. So bad that the Aberdeen fans were booing his every touch.

bingo70
14-07-2023, 03:28 PM
When we beat them 6-0 it was probably the worst performance I’ve ever seen from a centre half. So bad that the Aberdeen fans were booing his every touch.

Liam Scales took that award for me in that game.

I thought he was horrible in every game I watched but he seemed to be really popular with the Aberdeen TV commentators

Jones28
14-07-2023, 03:38 PM
Melkerson has had a season and a half- it's not comparing like for like is it?

We all (should) know it's stupid to write off a player straight away but surely you agree Melkerson has to start showing something pretty soon?

On the evidence of what's been seen so far I wouldn't want to rely on him.

Nor do I, I'm in no way suggesting he should be relied upon next season. All I'm saying is he showed a glimpse of what he can do against Motherwell last season and I think it would be daft to write him off.

I agree that he needs to do something this season. I suggested last season that he'd shown some game intelligence when he came on against Motherwell when we were 3-2 up and got slated for it, so maybe we all have different opinions on what constitutes showing something means.

Billy Whizz
14-07-2023, 03:40 PM
Reading Dundee Utd are supposedly close to signing Anthony Stewart. He was horrific for Aberdeen so I'm surprised Goodwin wants him at Utd

He was shocking for Goodwin, but maybe he thinks the championship is his level

andrew70
14-07-2023, 04:42 PM
Liam Scales took that award for me in that game.

I thought he was horrible in every game I watched but he seemed to be really popular with the Aberdeen TV commentators

Spot on here, I shudder every time someone on here suggests going for him. Brutal football player.

Bridge hibs
14-07-2023, 05:01 PM
Spot on here, I shudder every time someone on here suggests going for him. Brutal football player.

Same, surprised he is actually on celtcs books and has played 5 games for them 😵

Greenbeard
14-07-2023, 05:09 PM
Yes, as Nisbet is a totally different player and worked in our system. And yes, he's also better. And he had plenty of dreadful games too.
Is Nisbet not worth £10m yet based on his performances in pre-season training?
Plus 25% if he scores tomorrow in their pre-season friendly. Double it for a hat-trick.

Suburban Hibby
14-07-2023, 07:15 PM
I think Doidge should be kept - there I said it

Agreed- when he started scoring he was excellent- and gives 100% every game. Think that’s what annoyed me about Nisbet- if he had Doiges work rate he would be an x eptional talent.

CapitalGreen
14-07-2023, 07:49 PM
Agreed- when he started scoring he was excellent- and gives 100% every game. Think that’s what annoyed me about Nisbet- if he had Doiges work rate he would be an x eptional talent.

Doidge has been at Hibs for 4 seasons now, we’ve had 1.5 good seasons out of him and that was 2 years ago.

04Sauzee
14-07-2023, 09:30 PM
Dylan Levitt getting some good comments on twitter in his farewell tweet

https://twitter.com/DylanLevitt/status/1679801268867350528?t=fu_3iRo_GS_JGVaYQEnYng&s=19

Greenio
14-07-2023, 10:36 PM
Doidge has been at Hibs for 4 seasons now, we’ve had 1.5 good seasons out of him and that was 2 years ago.

Twisting the facts a bit there no?

Loans, injuries etc.

I just think it might be his time to come back into the fold. There will be games where I think he'll be well suited and needed to come on

CapitalGreen
14-07-2023, 10:42 PM
Twisting the facts a bit there no?

Loans, injuries etc.

I just think it might be his time to come back into the fold. There will be games where I think he'll be well suited and needed to come on

If a player is away on a (non-development) loan or injured how is that good for us?

We are paying him the wage of a first choice striker. We can’t afford to keep him around as a 3rd choice striker in the off chance he finds some of the form he had 2 years ago.

McGruber
14-07-2023, 10:49 PM
If a player is away on a (non-development) loan or injured how is that good for us?

We are paying him the wage of a first choice striker. We can’t afford to keep him around as a 3rd choice striker in the off chance he finds some of the form he had 2 years ago.

Top scorer so far pre season...just saying 😁

Potty78
14-07-2023, 10:57 PM
Melkerson wanted by another spl club but wages an issue as hibs wanted the club to pay the lot. Loan obviously

badabing67
14-07-2023, 11:26 PM
Melkerson wanted by another spl club but wages an issue as hibs wanted the club to pay the lot. Loan obviously

What club I don't see anything

Greenio
15-07-2023, 02:39 AM
If a player is away on a (non-development) loan or injured how is that good for us?

We are paying him the wage of a first choice striker. We can’t afford to keep him around as a 3rd choice striker in the off chance he finds some of the form he had 2 years ago.

I wouldn't say it's 'good' but injuries are part and parcel.

I rather keep him over Melk.

Donegal Hibby
15-07-2023, 05:23 AM
I wouldn't say it's 'good' but injuries are part and parcel.

I rather keep him over Melk.
I really liked doidge when he came to us first and always thought he was a big likeable guy that gives is all though he was never the quickest and I think his injuries have caught up with him tbh . He's probably on a decent wage with a year left on his contract and definitely one of the players that doesn't suit the way we play now.

Melkersen at 20 we can give another year or so too imo. I was hoping Alf would be a good role model for him to learn off though will he get game time at us I'm not so sure about so maybe a loan move to one of the top teams in the championship would help in his development. As long as it's not a loan like the last one which was a complete disaster in trying to develop the player tbh.

Nicho87
15-07-2023, 06:12 AM
Melkerson wanted by another spl club but wages an issue as hibs wanted the club to pay the lot. Loan obviously

St Mirren?

Robinson apparently got someone lined up

Musselbound
15-07-2023, 06:26 AM
St Mirren?

Robinson apparently got someone lined up

I wondered if that might be Doidge. More likely than Melkersen I would think.

Bridge hibs
15-07-2023, 06:34 AM
St Mirren?

Robinson apparently got someone lined upYeah saw Robinson on tv talking about signing a striker, he seemed quite chuffed to get him but didnt name the player

Donegal Hibby
15-07-2023, 06:40 AM
If we sign a new no 9 which I think we will and loan Melkersen out who besides Alf is our back up striker?

Aldo
15-07-2023, 06:46 AM
If we sign a new no 9 which I think we will and loan Melkersen out who besides Alf is our back up striker?

Bring another one in??

Bridge hibs
15-07-2023, 06:54 AM
If we sign a new no 9 which I think we will and loan Melkersen out who besides Alf is our back up striker?

The new striker, we will have new striker, Alf plus Youan and Boyle

Donegal Hibby
15-07-2023, 07:02 AM
Bring another one in??
I think thats a real possibility as Doidge will probably go and if melkersen goes too I think that only leaves us with Alf and Mackay as forward players which imo leaves us a bit weak on options upfront unless I'm missing someone of course .

Aldo
15-07-2023, 07:05 AM
I think thats a real possibility as Doidge will probably go and if melkersen goes too I think that only leaves us with Alf and Mackay as forward players which imo leaves us a bit weak on options upfront unless I'm missing someone of course .

Remember though LJ likes his front players to be interchangeable. So Youan and Boyle can play through the middle if necessary.

If Doidge and Elias both leave then I would suspect 2 x No 9 how players to replace them!

Bridge hibs
15-07-2023, 07:08 AM
Remember though LJ likes his front players to be interchangeable. So Youan and Boyle can play through the middle if necessary.

If Doidge and Elias both leave then I would suspect 2 x No 9 how players to replace them!

We have Obita too who can play high up left hand side

Brightside
15-07-2023, 07:16 AM
I think thats a real possibility as Doidge will probably go and if melkersen goes too I think that only leaves us with Alf and Mackay as forward players which imo leaves us a bit weak on options upfront unless I'm missing someone of course .

Pretty obvious yeh.

Donegal Hibby
15-07-2023, 07:38 AM
Pretty obvious yeh.
Laidlaw away yet ? Just wondering would he be a option from the bench along with Alf maybe.

Brightside
15-07-2023, 07:42 AM
Laidlaw away yet ? Just wondering would he be a option from the bench along with Alf maybe.

Laidlaw isn’t even training with us. So will need to be a huge turnaround for him to be involved about LJ regime.

Greenworld
15-07-2023, 07:49 AM
Laidlaw isn’t even training with us. So will need to be a huge turnaround for him to be involved about LJ regime.Laidlaw must be getting terrible advice the boy won't find anywhere better than hibs to progress his career.

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Since90+2
15-07-2023, 08:05 AM
Laidlaw must be getting terrible advice the boy won't find anywhere better than hibs to progress his career.

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Never got a look in last season when we had dross like Mckirdy and Hoppe playing. Don't blame hin TBH.

Greenworld
15-07-2023, 08:29 AM
Never got a look in last season when we had dross like Mckirdy and Hoppe playing. Don't blame hin TBH.Do you think he was genuinly ready for that leap . Unless someone stumps up the dosh for him he will be stuck in limbo

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Since90+2
15-07-2023, 08:58 AM
Do you think he was genuinly ready for that leap . Unless someone stumps up the dosh for him he will be stuck in limbo

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I think he'd have been a better option than McKirdy, yes.

J-C
15-07-2023, 09:00 AM
Laidlaw must be getting terrible advice the boy won't find anywhere better than hibs to progress his career.

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I think his father looks after his affairs.

Donegal Hibby
15-07-2023, 09:02 AM
Laidlaw must be getting terrible advice the boy won't find anywhere better than hibs to progress his career.

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I agree with you tbh . The only two clubs he's been linked with so far is Watford and Brentford which he will find it harder breaking through to there first team than ours which might suggest that first team opportunities isn't exactly his top priority in moving .

Since90+2
15-07-2023, 09:04 AM
I agree with you tbh . The only two clubs he's been linked with so far is Watford and Brentford which he will find it harder breaking through to there first team than ours which might suggest that first team opportunities isn't exactly his top priority in moving .

He's not getting first team opportunities as it is.

JohnM1875
15-07-2023, 09:29 AM
He's not getting first team opportunities as it is.

Is he actually good enough for our first team though? Is he that much better than O'Connor? Who's just gone out on loan to Airdrie to hopefully gain first team experience.

overdrive
15-07-2023, 09:31 AM
Is he actually good enough for our first team though? Is he that much better than O'Connor? Who's just gone out on loan to Airdrie to hopefully gain first team experience.

Not sure if he’s ready for the first team but from what I’ve seen he’s a lot better than O’Connor. I’ve never really been that impressed by O’Connor.

Paulie Walnuts
15-07-2023, 09:54 AM
Is he actually good enough for our first team though? Is he that much better than O'Connor? Who's just gone out on loan to Airdrie to hopefully gain first team experience.

For all the criticism LJ got regarding not playing youth last season I don’t think any of that squad is ready for football at us.

Donegal Hibby
15-07-2023, 10:17 AM
He's not getting first team opportunities as it is.
This is true though if he can't get first team opportunities at us he's definitely not going to get them at a English Championship side like Watford or a Premier league team like Brentford. I wish the guy well but the whole situation for me feels like it's about looking for more cash than actually trying to get the young player a better opportunity of first team football.

superfurryhibby
15-07-2023, 10:23 AM
Not sure if he’s ready for the first team but from what I’ve seen he’s a lot better than O’Connor. I’ve never really been that impressed by O’Connor.

Agree on both points. I doubt O’Connor is going to make it at top level, lack of football ability. Laidlaw seems much more comfortable on the ball. Neither appeared ready to play for the first team, from the ( admittedly) little I’ve seen, but Laidlaw should have signed up with Hibs and shown he’s good enough. If he was/ is, this season would have offered the chance to show it.

Nicho87
15-07-2023, 10:26 AM
I still think we need a like for like replacement myko/ doidge

But I think Boyle will / could be used more centrally

Miller, cadden hold and run the right wing very well both bring different qualities.

I wonder if LJ maybe sees utilising Boyle more in the middle. Not saying it’s a permanent thing but any centre half coming up against Boyle would be worried with his pace, even if he’s lost half a yard with injuries.

B.H.F.C
15-07-2023, 10:36 AM
I still think we need a like for like replacement myko/ doidge

But I think Boyle will / could be used more centrally

Miller, cadden hold and run the right wing very well both bring different qualities.

I wonder if LJ maybe sees utilising Boyle more in the middle. Not saying it’s a permanent thing but any centre half coming up against Boyle would be worried with his pace, even if he’s lost half a yard with injuries.

More likely to see Youan through the middle than Boyle IMO.

Donegal Hibby
15-07-2023, 10:44 AM
Remember though LJ likes his front players to be interchangeable. So Youan and Boyle can play through the middle if necessary.

If Doidge and Elias both leave then I would suspect 2 x No 9 how players to replace them!

I agree , Youan and Boyle could play through the middle if needed though much prefer both in wide position's though maybe that's just me . If Doidge and Elias go a good No 9 and a striker who could play anywhere in the front 3 positions would be handy.

B.H.F.C
15-07-2023, 10:46 AM
I agree , Youan and Boyle could play through the middle if needed though much prefer both in wide position's though maybe that's just me . If Doidge and Elias go a good No 9 and a striker who could play anywhere in the front 3 positions would be handy.

If Doidge an Melkersen stay a new number 9 is required, never mind if they leave.

Brightside
15-07-2023, 11:39 AM
We will get a number 9

BILLYHIBS
15-07-2023, 12:14 PM
Arsenal announce Declan Rice 105m

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weecounty hibby
15-07-2023, 12:19 PM
Arsenal announce Declan Rice 105m

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Mental. From what I've seen of him that us about 60m too much

MWHIBBIES
15-07-2023, 12:22 PM
Mental. From what I've seen of him that us about 60m too much

Home grown centre mid for 10 years? Think it could turn out a bargain. Addressing a real problem area for Arsenal.

Allant1981
15-07-2023, 12:24 PM
Mental. From what I've seen of him that us about 60m too much

Yip, any other country and he is going for no where near that much, good player but at that money it should be world class you are getting

RMQ1967
15-07-2023, 12:32 PM
We will get a number 9

Not sure why you insist on trying to bring calming assurance to this board! Provide content that brings frenzied panic & doom please 😬

AugustaHibs
15-07-2023, 01:01 PM
Yip, any other country and he is going for no where near that much, good player but at that money it should be world class you are getting

Imo Declan rice is world class.

Key West
15-07-2023, 01:09 PM
Looking forward to seeing Declan Rice in the Arsenal midfield along side Odegaard.

Paulie Walnuts
15-07-2023, 01:31 PM
Home grown centre mid for 10 years? Think it could turn out a bargain. Addressing a real problem area for Arsenal.

He’s a cracking player but at the same time you look at the price of other players and it seems expensive.

The English tax strikes again.

Since90+2
15-07-2023, 01:32 PM
I think Rice will be a great signing for Arsenal.

easty
15-07-2023, 01:37 PM
I think Rice will be a great signing for Arsenal.

I think he’s a very good player, and he’ll do well for them. Still think they’ve overpaid though.

Declan Rice last season was not a £105m player.

Since452
15-07-2023, 01:39 PM
We will get a number 9

Yup. Looking forward to seeing who it'll be.

MWHIBBIES
15-07-2023, 01:40 PM
I think he’s a very good player, and he’ll do well for them. Still think they’ve overpaid though.

Declan Rice last season was not a £105m player.

I'm not sure who else is available in that position, at that age, of his quality this summer. He ticks a lot of boxes. Pep offered 90 odd and Arteta offered 105. Must have something about him.

Big_Franck
15-07-2023, 01:55 PM
Imo Declan rice is world class.

No chance. In any other league he'd be going for 40m, 50m tops.

Decent signing for Arsenal but they've well overpaid, as is the norm down there.

JimBHibees
15-07-2023, 02:10 PM
He's not getting first team opportunities as it is.

Has he earned them

ErinGoBraghHFC
15-07-2023, 02:12 PM
I think he’s a very good player, and he’ll do well for them. Still think they’ve overpaid though.

Declan Rice last season was not a £105m player.

He’s not worth half that imo, very average footballer


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Malthibby
15-07-2023, 02:14 PM
Home grown centre mid for 10 years? Think it could turn out a bargain. Addressing a real problem area for Arsenal.


Opinions of course, but nowhere in my head does an obscene amount of money like that exist in a sentence with the word bargain.....grotesque, yup & reinforces why
I have zero interest in the clubs who dine at the top table troughs.
Would be happier if the government taxed transfers like that at 90% mind.....

JimBHibees
15-07-2023, 02:14 PM
Home grown centre mid for 10 years? Think it could turn out a bargain. Addressing a real problem area for Arsenal.

Is he any better than Partey?

MagicSwirlingShip
15-07-2023, 02:24 PM
Arsenal building a great squad, one that will challenge at the top for a while. Obviously spending a loada money but they all do…

J-C
15-07-2023, 02:31 PM
Arsenal announce Declan Rice 105m

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Lost Xhaka who was a key player in their midfield, that money is mad, worth half that but it's the world we live in now.

The Modfather
15-07-2023, 02:33 PM
Is he any better than Partey?

Younger and not made of glass. Probably not any better though. Rice is a good player but it’s the same transfer environment where Harry Maguire, yes Harry Maguire, is the most expensive defender of all time.

Springbank
15-07-2023, 02:34 PM
I think he’s a very good player, and he’ll do well for them. Still think they’ve overpaid though.

Declan Rice last season was not a £105m player.

I very much agree

Watched West Ham struggle vs non league Kidderminster Harriers in their FA Cup last season.

With due respect to all parties, if one of the most valuable players on earth was playing you'd expect them to stamp their class all over the proceedings- a Messi, a Neymar, an Mbappe, a Modric.

In days gone by you'd have expected a Pirlo or a Sauzee to take control, short passes to draw the opposition out of shape, dominate the ball, direct the whole match

Rice didn't have that sort of class about him

MWHIBBIES
15-07-2023, 02:41 PM
Is he any better than Partey?

He's not a rapist and not made of wheatabix, so yes I think so. Partey will probably leave.

Think people are doing Rice a big disservice in here. He's extremely good.

easty
15-07-2023, 02:41 PM
Arsenal building a great squad, one that will challenge at the top for a while. Obviously spending a loada money but they all do…

What does Arteta have to achieve as minimum next season, to avoid the sack.

No more talk of building a team with the amount he’s spent since getting the job.

Spent about £580m, brought in about £90m through sales.

easty
15-07-2023, 02:44 PM
He's not a rapist and not made of wheatabix, so yes I think so. Partey will probably leave.

Think people are doing Rice a big disservice in here. He's extremely good.

I think most folk do think he’s a very good player.

I just think £105m is more than he was worth. Is that 3x what Liverpool paid for Mac Allister?

MWHIBBIES
15-07-2023, 02:46 PM
What does Arteta have to achieve as minimum next season, to avoid the sack.

No more talk of building a team with the amount he’s spent since getting the job.

Spent about £580m, brought in about £90m through sales.

Progress. If he keeps improving them he'll be going nowhere. Him and Edu are the reason these quality players keep joining, and the ones they've got are staying. About the safest job in the world and rightfully so. Totally turned the club around.

MWHIBBIES
15-07-2023, 02:48 PM
I think most folk do think he’s a very good player.

I just think £105m is more than he was worth. Is that 3x what Liverpool paid for Mac Allister?

Of course it's more than he's worth. AM had an agreement to leave, where's west ham named a **** off price. Big difference. Don't forget, City, the treble winners, wanted him.

Paul1642
15-07-2023, 03:16 PM
He’s a cracking player but at the same time you look at the price of other players and it seems expensive.

The English tax strikes again.

Worth noting that there is literally an English tax on this transfer as 20% vat (so about 20 million) is paid on transfers between British clubs whilst this is avoided when buying or selling from / to foreign teams so really it’s more comparable with buying a player for 80 million from Europe.

Allant1981
15-07-2023, 03:49 PM
Imo Declan rice is world class.

Just can't see it, if you were to have a world 11 and subs I can't see how he makes a team, suppose its peoples perception of world class

Since90+2
15-07-2023, 03:53 PM
He's not a rapist and not made of wheatabix, so yes I think so. Partey will probably leave.

Think people are doing Rice a big disservice in here. He's extremely good.

A rapist?

Brightside
15-07-2023, 03:56 PM
This place is becoming unbearable.

Garymcl
15-07-2023, 03:59 PM
Exactly mate thought I was on the Irons /Gooners site for a minute

Fifer
15-07-2023, 04:05 PM
We’re on a Hibs transfer thread here. Why are we even discussing Arsenal signings?

Since90+2
15-07-2023, 04:14 PM
We’re on a Hibs transfer thread here. Why are we even discussing Arsenal signings?

It's a summer transfer thread, not exclusively for Hibs as far as I can tell?

bingo70
15-07-2023, 04:14 PM
We’re on a Hibs transfer thread here. Why are we even discussing Arsenal signings?

Because there’s no Hibs rumours to discuss.

This isn’t a dig at you but it’s the same every year with folk moaning about the transfer window thread. When there’s nothing Hibs to discuss, the thread ticks over with other stuff, it’s no big deal and I never understand why people are so precious about it.

Rant over, as you were…….

FWIW Rice is a good player and a good signing, probably better value to be had abroad but they’re also a bit more of a gamble, this is a position Arsenal have tried to find a solution for for a while so probably makes sense for them to pay a bit more for as close to a sure thing as they can get.

Since90+2
15-07-2023, 04:19 PM
Because there’s no Hibs rumours to discuss.

This isn’t a dig at you but it’s the same every year with folk moaning about the transfer window thread. When there’s nothing Hibs to discuss, the thread ticks over with other stuff, it’s no big deal and I never understand why people are so precious about it.

Rant over, as you were…….

FWIW Rice is a good player and a good signing, probably better value to be had abroad but they’re also a bit more of a gamble, this is a position Arsenal have tried to find a solution for for a while so probably makes sense for them to pay a bit more for as close to a sure thing as they can get.

Think you've summed up Rice pretty well there.

He's a very good player IMO, probably not quite absolute top drawer so I get the argument about the money they paid, but you know exactly what you're getting and he's a good age/ never seems to be injured.

It probably is about 20/25 million too high, but Arsenal fans probably won't care of comes in and improves the team (which he undoubtedly will).

bingo70
15-07-2023, 04:24 PM
Think you've summed up Rice pretty well there.

He's a very good player IMO, probably not quite absolute top drawer so I get the argument about the money they paid, but you know exactly what you're getting and he's a good age/ never seems to be injured.

It probably is about 20/25 million too high, but Arsenal fans probably won't care of comes in and improves the team (which he undoubtedly will).

Thanks, I was due to say something someone considered sensible at some point.

Rice is someone I never rated until I saw him play for West Ham against Chelsea, he was absolutely superb that day and did things off the ball I probably wouldn’t have noticed on the tele. Because of that one game I consider myself something of an expert on the man.

CentreForward
15-07-2023, 04:26 PM
Apparently Lee was at this afternoon’s Spartans v Utd game. Wonder if he was there watching someone or just taking a game in.

erin go bragh
15-07-2023, 04:33 PM
Could we maybe have a Hibs only transfer thread
Keep everyone happy 😃

bingo70
15-07-2023, 04:41 PM
Could we maybe have a Hibs only transfer thread
Keep everyone happy 😃

It’s suggested every year, there’s not enough to discuss so every few days it would be way down the pages.

Alex Trager
15-07-2023, 04:42 PM
It’s suggested every year, there’s not enough to discuss so every few days it would be way down the pages.

You’re wrong.

We have the merits of ex players vs current players, specifically in derbies.
We have the merits of current players.

I can’t remember what else has been discussed.

Since452
15-07-2023, 05:03 PM
We’re on a Hibs transfer thread here. Why are we even discussing Arsenal signings?

It's a sign of the times folk getting all heated about Arsenal and West Ham on a Hibs site. EPL taking over. Guess folk are free to talk about any transfers on a transfer thread though.

Since90+2
15-07-2023, 05:08 PM
It's a sign of the times folk getting all heated about Arsenal and West Ham on a Hibs site. EPL taking over. Guess folk are free to talk about any transfers on a transfer thread though.

I'm not sure anyone is getting heated TBH.

bingo70
15-07-2023, 05:12 PM
I'm not sure anyone is getting heated TBH.

Not really relevant to any point being made but FYI I always assume you and Since452 are the same person.

Seeing you disagreeing with them fried my little brain a wee bit.

Since90+2
15-07-2023, 05:14 PM
Not really relevant to any point being made but FYI I always assume you and Since452 are the same person.

Seeing you disagreeing with them fried my little brain a wee bit.

There's been a lot of variations on the 90+ username. I'm the original (but probably not the best).

SHODAN
15-07-2023, 05:21 PM
Heard West Ham are in for Newell to replace Rice.

Donegal Hibby
15-07-2023, 05:29 PM
More in's and out's in the coming weeks . A forward still one we are after , abit surprised a RB ruled out to be honest.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/more-hibs-ins-and-outs-says-lee-johnson-as-he-discusses-summer-transfer-activity-4220100

bingo70
15-07-2023, 05:32 PM
More in's and out's in the coming weeks . A forward still one we were after , abit surprised a RB ruled out to be honest.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/more-hibs-ins-and-outs-says-lee-johnson-as-he-discusses-summer-transfer-activity-4220100

I think we will be going back in for CJ but we need to wait and see how he recovers from injury. We can’t commit to signing someone else if he might be close to being ready close to the end of the window.

McD
15-07-2023, 05:37 PM
Charming! If you go to the 1st post in this thread it's evident this is intended to be a discussion on possible Hibs' transfers. Unfortunately the title doesn't properly reflect that. Perhaps the OP could address this. Meanwhile we can continue taking up space on a Hibs board by discussing the tens of thousands of transfers taking place worldwide.


there is plenty non-Hibs chat on the board though mate, and clearly there is an appetite for discussing such things, if there wasn’t, no one would reply and the topic would wither away naturally.

At this time of year people enjoy chatting about the merits of players and their moves to new clubs, anyone wishing to have a purely Hibs related transfer thread is welcome to start one, and ask that it be kept to Hibs only, people are respectful.

a similar conversation happened a few years back about non-Hibs updates being kept off the Hibs match update thread, and has been broadly accepted and adhered to by everyone.

Willis1875
15-07-2023, 05:39 PM
More in's and out's in the coming weeks . A forward still one we are after , abit surprised a RB ruled out to be honest.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/more-hibs-ins-and-outs-says-lee-johnson-as-he-discusses-summer-transfer-activity-4220100

If Miller stays fit then I’m happy to leave that position as is until Cadden returns.He doesn’t appear to be shy in playing Campbell in that position if needs be either

Donegal Hibby
15-07-2023, 05:44 PM
I think we will be going back in for CJ but we need to wait and see how he recovers from injury. We can’t commit to signing someone else if he might be close to being ready close to the end of the window.
CJ would be worth the wait . Besides being a excellent player I like the fact he can play a few different positions. Thought some of his best games for us was in the RB position tbh .

brog
15-07-2023, 05:47 PM
there is plenty non-Hibs chat on the board though mate, and clearly there is an appetite for discussing such things, if there wasn’t, no one would reply and the topic would wither away naturally.

At this time of year people enjoy chatting about the merits of players and their moves to new clubs, anyone wishing to have a purely Hibs related transfer thread is welcome to start one, and ask that it be kept to Hibs only, people are respectful.

a similar conversation happened a few years back about non-Hibs updates being kept off the Hibs match update thread, and has been broadly accepted and adhered to by everyone.

Well let's keep it to Scottish football which at least has relevance to Hibs, otherwise where do we stop?

bingo70
15-07-2023, 05:52 PM
Well let's keep it to Scottish football which at least has relevance to Hibs, otherwise where do we stop?

Without wanting to sound like a dick, that’s not really up to you to decide?

If people want to talk about transfers happening in the EPL, Seria A, La Liga or Timbuktu then the posters will dictate that. That’s how a forum works.

FWIW I can’t be arsed with the Premiership or this Saudi nonsense that’s going on, personally I’d rather there were discussion about who Montrose, Arbroath or Stranraer were signing but it’s not my own forum designed specifically for what I want to discuss.

Anyone heard any rumours about Hibs?

brog
15-07-2023, 06:04 PM
Without wanting to sound like a dick, that’s not really up to you to decide?

If people want to talk about transfers happening in the EPL, Seria A, La Liga or Timbuktu then the posters will dictate that. That’s how a forum works.

FWIW I can’t be arsed with the Premiership or this Saudi nonsense that’s going on, personally I’d rather there were discussion about who Montrose, Arbroath or Stranraer were signing but it’s not my own forum designed specifically for what I want to discuss.motorised

Anyone heard any rumours about Hibs?

Well I wasn't deciding anything, it was a suggestion. Hopefully that's allowed. As for the posters deciding what's on the thread, that's fine but unfortunately many threads are taken over by the same people. That's why I, and several others, spend far less time on here now than before.

GloryGlory
15-07-2023, 06:19 PM
Doig - still at Verona and now Sassuolo and Lazio said to be interested along with Torino.

https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/doig-hellas-verona-torino-lazio-sassuolo-calciomercato-news

Malthibby
15-07-2023, 06:21 PM
Laidlaw joining Porteous according to the EN?

Since452
15-07-2023, 06:27 PM
CJ would be worth the wait . Besides being a excellent player I like the fact he can play a few different positions. Thought some of his best games for us was in the RB position tbh .

CJ would have been a priority to get back I reckon if it wasn't for his injury. Terrific young player and really emersed himself in Hibs. Really good loan along with Fish.

Donegal Hibby
15-07-2023, 06:37 PM
If Miller stays fit then I’m happy to leave that position as is until Cadden returns.He doesn’t appear to be shy in playing Campbell in that position if needs be either

I think Megwa is a very good young player with alot of potential but felt he got caught out a few times with Bournemouth's long balls and I'm not so sure he's ready to be a first team player yet if we lost Miller TBH .

Cadden worries me when he plays RB as I think defending is his weakness. He much better as a RM or RW which suits his main strengths in getting forward , crossing balls into the box etc .

Campbell's the only attacking midfielder we have at the minute and our best chance of a goal from midfield imo . Your probably right in Cadden and Campbell could play there if needed though both are probably our two best attacking options outside our strikers imo .

1van Sprou7e
15-07-2023, 06:40 PM
Just me or has there been worryingly little striker chat?

McD
15-07-2023, 07:11 PM
Well let's keep it to Scottish football which at least has relevance to Hibs, otherwise where do we stop?

ultimately it stops where the entire posting community as a whole decides. If people want to talk about something they’re free to do so, and if others wish to respond then they can. If yet more others wish not to respond, they equally can.



Well I wasn't deciding anything, it was a suggestion. Hopefully that's allowed. As for the posters deciding what's on the thread, that's fine but unfortunately many threads are taken over by the same people. That's why I, and several others, spend far less time on here now than before.


I know you’re replying to Bingo’s post here, but I just wanted to say that I get your point re. thread takeovers, and I personally find this place more enriched by your contributions.

Ronniekirk
15-07-2023, 07:18 PM
It's a summer transfer thread, not exclusively for Hibs as far as I can tell?
Well we should have a hibs rumpus and signings thread and a separate non hibs one
its so boring coming on and reading three or four pages to discover nothing at all about hibs

the_ginger_hibee
15-07-2023, 07:34 PM
Doig - still at Verona and now Sassuolo and Lazio said to be interested along with Torino.

https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/doig-hellas-verona-torino-lazio-sassuolo-calciomercato-news

Waiting about for Josh Doig to be sold already ruined one of our transfer windows, will it happen again?

andrew70
15-07-2023, 07:38 PM
Goodwin talking about needing someone up front going forward. I’d be offering them Melkersen on loan providing we can sign a striker soon.

A good year on loan at a decent level will help nurture the talent that Elias clearly has.

jeffers
15-07-2023, 07:43 PM
Just me or has there been worryingly little striker chat?

We are definitely looking, hopefully get someone in before the next European tie (I’m fully expecting us to negotiate the first round with the players we currently have.)

HibbyAndy
15-07-2023, 07:47 PM
We are definitely looking, hopefully get someone in before the next European tie (I’m fully expecting us to negotiate the first round with the players we currently have.)

As long as we aren't looking at drivel like Curtis Main and Sam Cosgrove

jeffers
15-07-2023, 07:52 PM
As long as we aren't looking at drivel like Curtis Main and Sam Cosgrove

We’re not.

HibbyAndy
15-07-2023, 07:55 PM
We’re not.

Thank the lord :aok:

Green Reaper
15-07-2023, 07:56 PM
Who was the Colombian mentioned before and what happened with him, take it not what we want?

Libby Hibby
15-07-2023, 08:00 PM
As long as we aren't looking at drivel like Curtis Main and Sam Cosgrove

Both could do a job in this current squad imo

bod
15-07-2023, 08:06 PM
Heard West Ham are in for Newell to replace Rice.

I heard they’re not

PatHead
15-07-2023, 08:08 PM
I heard they’re not

Couldn't afford him.

HibbyAndy
15-07-2023, 08:19 PM
Both could do a job in this current squad imo

Curtis Main , Really ? Not a chance imo

FitbaFolkKen
15-07-2023, 08:33 PM
What about if the top post in the thread was updated with “live Hibs rumours” every 24 hours or so then those who don’t want to wade through the posts don’t have to?

Appreciate that would take someone’s time but it’s the only way a controlled feed in this thread could work as far as I can see.


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PHeffernan
15-07-2023, 08:37 PM
Well let's keep it to Scottish football which at least has relevance to Hibs, otherwise where do we stop?

I'm with you Brog.
As a Hibs and Scottish Football supporter I have no interest in the business of the investment and money harvesting League of England.
I like to hear about how Scottish players playing in it are getting on because it is relevant to our national team but that's it.

The most relevant leagues in England for a Hibs supporter are below the EPL.
We are likely to sell our best players to the Championship e.g. Nisbet, Porteous, McGinn and Cummings and buy players from League 1 e.g. Obita and Wollacott so these leagues are of relevance to our interests.

P.S. Announcing the scores in the EPL at Hibs games at Easter Road does my heid in, WTF is that all about.

Donegal Hibby
15-07-2023, 08:38 PM
As long as we aren't looking at drivel like Curtis Main and Sam Cosgrove
Thank you Mate for posting exactly what I think of those two aswell 👍 . Selling a striker like Nisbet and replacing him with one of them two would be like selling a Porsche and buying a Fiat TBH :greengrin

tug.lismore
15-07-2023, 08:48 PM
The most relevant leagues in England for a Hibs supporter are below the EPL.
We are likely to sell our best players to the Championship e.g. Nisbet, Porteous, McGinn and Cummings and buy players from League 1 e.g. Obita and Wollacott so these leagues are of relevance to our interests.

In a nutshell.

We just cannot compete even with Championship wages so attracting players at that level is tough.

Suspect that League 1 pays similar to Hibs in wages but we can offer more exposure, potentially European games, and (sad to say it) the prospect of playing the Uglies.

Hence we have tried to cast our net wider for some prospects from Europe.

We are in a tough market.

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McD
15-07-2023, 08:56 PM
In a nutshell.

We just cannot compete even with Championship wages so attracting players at that level is tough.

Suspect that League 1 pays similar to Hibs in wages but we can offer more exposure, potentially European games, and (sad to say it) the prospect of playing the Uglies.

Hence we have tried to cast our net wider for some prospects from Europe.

We are in a tough market.

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which doesn’t really relate much to people talking about players moving in other leagues here on the forum though

04Sauzee
15-07-2023, 09:02 PM
Johnson Clarke Harris has been outbid contract for a while and I'm sure I heard he had played for LJ although it was a good few years ago. No idea if he's any food, no idea if he's affordable (wages wise). Not even sure why in mentioning him tbh 😂 bored.

PHeffernan
15-07-2023, 09:08 PM
which doesn’t really relate much to people talking about players moving in other leagues here on the forum though

That was covered in the first para of my post
"As a Hibs and Scottish Football supporter I have no interest in the business of the investment and money harvesting league of England".

Steven79
15-07-2023, 09:13 PM
Heard West Ham are in for Newell to replace Rice.£50 million due to the English tax...

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CockneyRebel
15-07-2023, 09:17 PM
Home grown centre mid for 10 years? Think it could turn out a bargain. Addressing a real problem area for Arsenal.

For me I reckon Mason Mount will prove a better signing for Man U (apart from his name obviously).

brog
15-07-2023, 09:18 PM
ultimately it stops where the entire posting community as a whole decides. If people want to talk about something they’re free to do so, and if others wish to respond then they can. If yet more others wish not to respond, they equally can.







I know you’re replying to Bingo’s post here, but I just wanted to say that I get your point re. thread takeovers, and I personally find this place more enriched by your contributions.

Thanks!

Hibs4185
15-07-2023, 09:20 PM
Heard West Ham are in for Newell to replace Rice.

I dream of wining the lottery but this is next level dreams

McD
15-07-2023, 09:22 PM
That was covered in the first para of my post
"As a Hibs and Scottish Football supporter I have no interest in the business of the investment and money harvesting league of England".


which is fair, except I was replying to another poster, who was replying to your other point about where Hibs might find or sell players.

And, other people who are Hibs and Scotland supporters are interested in the business of other leagues. Both perspectives are equally valid.

Haymaker
15-07-2023, 09:44 PM
We will get a number 9Leigh. Griffiths. :hyper

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bingo70
15-07-2023, 10:55 PM
Johnson Clarke Harris has been outbid contract for a while and I'm sure I heard he had played for LJ although it was a good few years ago. No idea if he's any food, no idea if he's affordable (wages wise). Not even sure why in mentioning him tbh 😂 bored.

That’s a good shout. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if he was someone we were interested in.

Had a quick look and scored goals wherever he’s been.

In the interests of balance, couple of posts ok twitter suggesting he’s one of these guys that fans think are a bit ***** despite his goals. On YouTube lot of them are pens and scuffed *****y efforts. Bit like when Cosgrove went on his scoring run at Aberdeen and still looked ***** I think. Always scored over a long period of time though so can’t have been lucky for so long.

hibees 7062
15-07-2023, 11:15 PM
Thank you Mate for posting exactly what I think of those two aswell 👍 . Selling a striker like Nisbet and replacing him with one of them two would be like selling a Porsche and buying a Fiat TBH :greengrin
Two Fiats 😆

Stevie Reid
15-07-2023, 11:21 PM
That’s a good shout. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if he was someone we were interested in.

Had a quick look and scored goals wherever he’s been.

In the interests of balance, couple of posts ok twitter suggesting he’s one of these guys that fans think are a bit ***** despite his goals. On YouTube lot of them are pens and scuffed *****y efforts. Bit like when Cosgrove went on his scoring run at Aberdeen and still looked ***** I think. Always scored over a long period of time though so can’t have been lucky for so long.

Looks like he went to Peterborough in 2020 for £1.2M and has scored 74 goals in a 128 starts for them. Year left on his contract, and about to turn 29.

From reading that I’d absolutely love us to sign him. However, with the Sky money kicking about the English lower leagues, I (depressingly) find it hard to imagine that we could outbid and offer a higher wage than other teams in League One who will likely want to sign him.

King Cosell
15-07-2023, 11:55 PM
Johnson Clarke Harris has been outbid contract for a while and I'm sure I heard he had played for LJ although it was a good few years ago. No idea if he's any food, no idea if he's affordable (wages wise). Not even sure why in mentioning him tbh 😂 bored.

Joe Newell will know him well, played 3 seasons with him at Rotherham, and they're about the same age.

JimBHibees
16-07-2023, 05:34 AM
He's not a rapist and not made of wheatabix, so yes I think so. Partey will probably leave.

Think people are doing Rice a big disservice in here. He's extremely good.

As a player other stuff pretty irrelevant.

JimBHibees
16-07-2023, 05:35 AM
Younger and not made of glass. Probably not any better though. Rice is a good player but it’s the same transfer environment where Harry Maguire, yes Harry Maguire, is the most expensive defender of all time.

Agree with that

thebausburst
16-07-2023, 07:47 AM
I’m expecting LJ to try and sign Nouble, clearly a fan and Livi actively trying to cash in now rather than lose him for a lot less in Jan. I know everyone will now start replying saying how #%&£ he is, but personally I think he’d do really well for us and type of physical striker we’ve not had for years. I think he’d be great in the derbys and against the OF as he’s shown for Livi.

Alex Trager
16-07-2023, 07:51 AM
I’m expecting LJ to try and sign Nouble, clearly a fan and Livi actively trying to cash in now rather than lose him for a lot less in Jan. I know everyone will now start replying saying how #%&£ he is, but personally I think he’d do really well for us and type of physical striker we’ve not had for years. I think he’d be great in the derbys and against the OF as he’s shown for Livi.

Why do you say he’s clearly a fan?

thebausburst
16-07-2023, 08:00 AM
Why do you say he’s clearly a fan?

He’s commented in the past about him and you only have to look at his performances (almost) every time we play them how could he not be.

Aldo
16-07-2023, 08:11 AM
I’m expecting LJ to try and sign Nouble, clearly a fan and Livi actively trying to cash in now rather than lose him for a lot less in Jan. I know everyone will now start replying saying how #%&£ he is, but personally I think he’d do really well for us and type of physical striker we’ve not had for years. I think he’d be great in the derbys and against the OF as he’s shown for Livi.


We need quality not quantity. Nouble, for me anyway, has not shown the quality that would make us any better than we already have.

If you see him as Nisbet’s replacement then he’s far inferior for me.

Hopefully we won’t be signing him!

Alex Trager
16-07-2023, 08:22 AM
He’s commented in the past about him and you only have to look at his performances (almost) every time we play them how could he not be.

Signing a player based on how he’s played vs us is not a good strategy. I would not be touching Nouble.

Donegal Hibby
16-07-2023, 08:25 AM
I’m expecting LJ to try and sign Nouble, clearly a fan and Livi actively trying to cash in now rather than lose him for a lot less in Jan. I know everyone will now start replying saying how #%&£ he is, but personally I think he’d do really well for us and type of physical striker we’ve not had for years. I think he’d be great in the derbys and against the OF as he’s shown for Livi.
Firstly . I don't know why you would expect LJ to try and sign Nouble or why you think LJ's a fan of him either. For a striker he just doesn't score enough goals and after losing a quality striker like Nisbet and to replace him with nouble would be a massive downgrade. The guys nowhere near good enough for Hibs .

Livingston have been doing a lot of talk about if anyone wants him they want 1million for him . If he was going for 150k I still wouldn't want him to be honest . There's been some really poor striker's mentioned on here as Nisbet's replacement in Nouble, Main and Cosgrove . We need a good quality striker who going to score 15 goals plus for us this year which none of these will .

thebausburst
16-07-2023, 08:27 AM
Signing a player based on how he’s played vs us is not a good strategy. I would not be touching Nouble.

So who do you want Hibs to go for?

Bostonhibby
16-07-2023, 08:37 AM
Johnson Clarke Harris has been outbid contract for a while and I'm sure I heard he had played for LJ although it was a good few years ago. No idea if he's any food, no idea if he's affordable (wages wise). Not even sure why in mentioning him tbh [emoji23] bored.Seen quite a bit of him, great finisher at Posh's level, good attitude one the pitch as well, might be out of our price range though?

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Alex Trager
16-07-2023, 08:38 AM
So who do you want Hibs to go for?

Good question. I don’t have anyone in mind, but I know who I would not want.

Donegal has summed it up well in response above. I wished I had the awareness that our scouting department no doubt have, I don’t and therefore I can’t offer a solution to our missing striker issue.

Tambo
16-07-2023, 08:46 AM
What do we think the plan for Oscar is?

Was surprised he wasn't involved in the training camp at all and there has been no talk of a loan move anywhere ( unless we have tried but it's not been made public)

I did ask about players been able to play development games for us aswel and someone said there must be a development agreement in the loans.

Not sure if we will have many players to pick from come development/reserve games in the upcoming season. Will be a lot of youngsters anyway.

Since452
16-07-2023, 08:48 AM
Signing a player based on how he’s played vs us is not a good strategy. I would not be touching Nouble.

If we signed players like Nouble we'd end up back in the championship. One defeat to Livingston and there were folk wanting us to sign him and Omeonga. Both poor players.

Stuart93
16-07-2023, 09:00 AM
Good question. I don’t have anyone in mind, but I know who I would not want.

Donegal has summed it up well in response above. I wished I had the awareness that our scouting department no doubt have, I don’t and therefore I can’t offer a solution to our missing striker issue.

That’s a brilliant question eh, the auld who would you want us to sign then

As if we’d all heard of myko, kamberi, melkersen etc.

Bridge hibs
16-07-2023, 09:01 AM
If we signed players like Nouble we'd end up back in the championship. One defeat to Livingston and there were folk wanting us to sign him and Omeonga. Both poor players.

Yep, 8 goals in around 30 appearances is hardly a replacement for Nisbet, we would be better saving our money and either persevering with Melkerson and Doidge

flash
16-07-2023, 09:04 AM
If we signed players like Nouble we'd end up back in the championship. One defeat to Livingston and there were folk wanting us to sign him and Omeonga. Both poor players.

Why? Livingston haven't been relegated with him in their team.

Not saying he is for us but really?

WeeRussell
16-07-2023, 09:06 AM
Yep, 8 goals in around 30 appearances is hardly a replacement for Nisbet, we would be better saving our money and either persevering with Melkerson and Doidge

Melkerson arguably. We already know Doidge and Nouble would be an improvement.

Hopefully someone comes in that is better than all 3 though.

Greenbeard
16-07-2023, 09:09 AM
Not been able to keep up to date for a few days. Is a possible return by Myko dead in the water?

Bridge hibs
16-07-2023, 09:11 AM
Why? Livingston haven't been relegated with him in their team.

Not saying he is for us but really?No but it would be good to sign a striker who scores goals and not just because he has caused us problems in the past. Curtis Main has caused us some problems in the past and he is pretty poor overall

flash
16-07-2023, 09:16 AM
No but it would be good to sign a striker who scores goals and not just because he has caused us problems in the past. Curtis Main has caused us some problems in the past and he is pretty poor overall

I tend to agree was more commenting on the ludicrous premise that he would get us relegated.

Vault Boy
16-07-2023, 09:18 AM
If we signed players like Nouble we'd end up back in the championship. One defeat to Livingston and there were folk wanting us to sign him and Omeonga. Both poor players.

Omeonga isn’t a poor player at all. We’ve seen that first hand.

MWHIBBIES
16-07-2023, 09:22 AM
As a player other stuff pretty irrelevant.

His injury record is certainly relevant. And his criminal record will be too if he gets banged up.

Partey is an excellent player, but he's not reliable. Misses too many games and had a pretty poor end to the season. Was getting caught and giving it away too often. Rice is a bit more dynamic, can play a couple of positions, equally good with the ball, bit more mobile. If he maintains his west ham form at Arsenal he'll be a key player for a decade.

Allant1981
16-07-2023, 09:40 AM
Why? Livingston haven't been relegated with him in their team.

Not saying he is for us but really?

I agree we wouldn't be relegated but we certainly wouldn't be getting a huge goal return based on his 20 goal career mostly at non league in England

easty
16-07-2023, 10:25 AM
Omeonga isn’t a poor player at all. We’ve seen that first hand.

He wouldn’t get in our midfield. He’d be a poor signing. He’d be behind JDH for me, and I already want better than JDH.

EGL2000
16-07-2023, 10:36 AM
I personally don't think there's any striker in Scotland that we could afford who would improve our starting 11. Imagine the new striker will be from abroad.

easty
16-07-2023, 10:40 AM
I personally don't think there's any striker in Scotland that we could afford who would improve our starting 11. Imagine the new striker will be from abroad.

Yeah, I agree with that.

Unless there’s a lower league striker I’m not aware of who is the new Nisbet.

Col2
16-07-2023, 10:46 AM
We might need to be patient for new No 9 assuming we are pushing the boat out on quality.

Always the most difficult position to fill and I am still convinced we are monitoring Myko position and we have more than an interest in Doig transfer and interest in Doidge potential move. With Boyle and Youan able to play through the middle we can probably cope for now (slight gamble) to get our man.

EGL2000
16-07-2023, 10:48 AM
We might need to be patient for new No 9 assuming we are pushing the boat out on quality.

Always the most difficult position to fill and I still convinced we are monitoring Myko position and we have more than an interested in Doing transfer and interest in Doidge. With Boyle and Youan able to play through the middle we can probably cope for now (slight gamble) to get our man.

Personally think we need them in before the next European tie. Should have enough to get through the first, but will really struggle in the second if we don't add quality up to.

MWHIBBIES
16-07-2023, 11:02 AM
We might need to be patient for new No 9 assuming we are pushing the boat out on quality.

Always the most difficult position to fill and I am still convinced we are monitoring Myko position and we have more than an interest in Doig transfer and interest in Doidge potential move. With Boyle and Youan able to play through the middle we can probably cope for now (slight gamble) to get our man.
Known for 7 months Nisbet was away and known for a year getting Myko back wasn't a sure thing. Need a forward in, scoring against the European diddies and getting confidence up imo.

Boyle and Youan through the middle is a really bad way to be starting the season imo. Not their best positions, leaves us without our best wide players, and very little physical presence up top.

flash
16-07-2023, 11:04 AM
Known for 7 months Nisbet was away and known for a year getting Myko back wasn't a sure thing. Need a forward in, scoring against the European diddies and getting confidence up imo.

Boyle and Youan through the middle is a really bad way to be starting the season imo. Not their best positions, leaves us without our best wide players, and very little physical presence up top.

Surely Boyle and Youan will be either side of ALF.

04Sauzee
16-07-2023, 11:17 AM
From multiple sources

Aberdeen are closing in on a loan deal for Hapoel Be’er Sheva defender Or Dadia.

It’s understood the deal will include an option to buy for a fee in the region of £400,000.

The Israel international, 26, can play at right-back and defensive midfield.

MWHIBBIES
16-07-2023, 11:18 AM
Surely Boyle and Youan will be either side of ALF.

Probably. Think I'd prefer Doidge than ALF tbh.

flash
16-07-2023, 11:22 AM
Probably. Think I'd prefer Doidge than ALF tbh.

Hard to say until we get a proper look at ALF. We should create a lot of chances in the first Euro tie so I reckon ALF gets the nod as the better goalscorer.
Of course we might have someone in by then.

04Sauzee
16-07-2023, 11:26 AM
Hearts linked with Calem Nieuwenhof who plays in the A league with Western Sydney Wanderers

maturehibby
16-07-2023, 11:28 AM
See Flo Kamberi has been freed by Huddersfield and is without a club .
The Flo we had on loan would walk into the team
But the Flo who sold himself to Rangers is a no no

EGL2000
16-07-2023, 11:29 AM
See Flo Kamberi has been freed by Huddersfield and is without a club .
The Flo we had on loan would walk into the team
But the Flo who sold himself to Rangers is a no no

Hopefully stay well clear

04Sauzee
16-07-2023, 11:31 AM
See Flo Kamberi has been freed by Huddersfield and is without a club .
The Flo we had on loan would walk into the team
But the Flo who sold himself to Rangers is a no no

Flopped at St Gallen, Aberdeen, Winterhur, Huddersfield, Sheffield Wednesday

His career is only going one way.

MWHIBBIES
16-07-2023, 11:37 AM
Flopped at St Gallen, Aberdeen, Winterhur, Huddersfield, Sheffield Wednesday

His career is only going one way.

Straight to the bank? Must've made millions.

JohnM1875
16-07-2023, 11:39 AM
Flopped at St Gallen, Aberdeen, Winterhur, Huddersfield, Sheffield Wednesday

His career is only going one way.

Crazy. He was brilliant at us, was so chuffed when we managed to sign him after the initial loan.

The Rangers thing was really weird and his comments will stick with most Hibs fans. Was annoyed myself at the time but got over it pretty quickly.

Not a player we should be looking at now though.