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Stairway 2 7
13-08-2023, 08:33 AM
If Dortmund had won their last game of the season last season, they would have won the league, I'd call that close.

No cigar. If Albert Kidd had bottled it like levein hearts might have won

JimBHibees
13-08-2023, 08:38 AM
If Dortmund had won their last game of the season last season, they would have won the league, I'd call that close.

Yep can't really get closer however Bayern probably had their poorest league campaign in a number of years.

blackpoolhibs
13-08-2023, 08:54 AM
No cigar. If Albert Kidd had bottled it like levein hearts might have won

The poster said nobody has got close in years, i'd say you cant get much closer than last season.

Winston Ingram
13-08-2023, 08:59 AM
Youan is the replacement for Boyle on the right, with Obita coming in on the left.

But I'd like a young winger on loan to add depth.

Obita is a left back. He’s not played left wing for years.

Cat Stanton
13-08-2023, 09:03 AM
Kenny Miller has been touting Martin Boyle to Sevco :greengrin

Isn't he just - https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/martin-boyle-rangers-transfer-would-30687914

B.H.F.C
13-08-2023, 09:07 AM
Obita is a left back. He’s not played left wing for years.

Can’t claim to have watched much of Wycombe over the last couple of years but according to transfer market he’s played plenty games higher up the park and it’s generally where he’s played for us so far. Just looks like a versatile player rather than one or the other to me.

007
13-08-2023, 09:28 AM
Isn't he just - https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/martin-boyle-rangers-transfer-would-30687914

You'd think we were playing them soon.

Lago
13-08-2023, 09:42 AM
Kenny Miller has been touting Martin Boyle to Sevco :greengrin
You have to wonder when our ex player Miller, took such a dislike to his former club, people talk about Kevin Thomson but to me Miller is 10 times worse.

JohnM1875
13-08-2023, 09:50 AM
You have to wonder when our ex player Miller, took such a dislike to his former club, people talk about Kevin Thomson but to me Miller is 10 times worse.

Miller was never a Hibs fan. He is a complete chopper though.

ErinGoBraghHFC
13-08-2023, 09:53 AM
Obita is a left back. He’s not played left wing for years.

He played left wing on Thursday night


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Pedantic_Hibee
13-08-2023, 09:59 AM
Miller was never a Hibs fan. He is a complete chopper though.

Anything that sandblasted tomato faced gimp says is best ignored.

Jones28
13-08-2023, 10:06 AM
Anything that sandblasted tomato faced gimp says is best ignored.

😂😂😂

Jones28
13-08-2023, 10:07 AM
You have to wonder when our ex player Miller, took such a dislike to his former club, people talk about Kevin Thomson but to me Miller is 10 times worse.

He’s a throbber, he’s got rangers badges on the wall in his swimming pool.

.Sean.
13-08-2023, 10:14 AM
I still think we'll bring in a couple of players on loan that we would be unlikely to be able to afford permanently
Something you’ve heard or?

J-C
13-08-2023, 10:24 AM
He played left wing on Thursday night


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He played left wingback, we went 343 with Lewis dropping in beside Hanlon, Miller and Obita pushed up the park, we finished 352 when Jeggo and JDH came on.

B.H.F.C
13-08-2023, 10:27 AM
He played left wingback, we went 343 with Lewis dropping in beside Hanlon, Miller and Obita pushed up the park, we finished 352 when Jeggo and JDH came on.

Seen it mentioned a few times about going to a back three but didn’t see that at any time. The shape changed further up the park when Jeggo came on with Melkersen pushed out wide when Boyle went off and Obita on the other side.

Gmack7
13-08-2023, 10:41 AM
Something you’ve heard or?

Not ITK just my thoughts

SHODAN
13-08-2023, 10:58 AM
Kenny Miller has been touting Martin Boyle to Sevco :greengrin

Not massive enormous absolutely definitely biggest Hibs fan ever Miller? Surely not.

MWHIBBIES
13-08-2023, 11:08 AM
Anything that sandblasted tomato faced gimp says is best ignored.

****ing howling :thumbsup:

Just_Jimmy
13-08-2023, 11:09 AM
If Dortmund had won their last game of the season last season, they would have won the league, I'd call that close.Bayern had their worst season in a decade and Dortmund still couldn't get it done.

The German league is great to watch for 90 mins usually but as a competition its dross.

Every league is going the same way or is already a one or two horse race. Dull.

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blackpoolhibs
13-08-2023, 11:23 AM
Bayern had their worst season in a decade and Dortmund still couldn't get it done.

The German league is great to watch for 90 mins usually but as a competition its dross.

Every league is going the same way or is already a one or two horse race. Dull.

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Are you saying it wasnt close?

WhileTheChief..
13-08-2023, 11:26 AM
The poster said nobody has got close in years, i'd say you cant get much closer than last season.

I was just meaning in general.I don't follow German football, but it seems like Bayern dominate everything there now. I don't remember that being the case in years gone by and wondered what it is they did, or are doing, differently, to get to where they are.

PSG for example just outspend other clubs in France by a huge amount.

Bayern do similar (Kane), but they never get seen in a bad light like PSG, Man City or Real Madrid do, and rarely get accused of buying success. Or maybe they do?

keep the faith
13-08-2023, 11:34 AM
Of all the pundits out there at the moment, Kenny Miller grinds my gears more than any. He is allowed to talk rangers only every week on sportsound and now here he is using his daily ranger column to try and get Boyler to ibrox.
That paper is to rangers what GB news is to the tories and KM is the mouthpiece.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/martin-boyle-rangers-transfer-would-30687914

blackpoolhibs
13-08-2023, 11:36 AM
I was just meaning in general.I don't follow German football, but it seems like Bayern dominate everything there now. I don't remember that being the case in years gone by and wondered what it is they did, or are doing, differently, to get to where they are.

PSG for example just outspend other clubs in France by a huge amount.

Bayern do similar (Kane), but they never get seen in a bad light like PSG, Man City or Real Madrid do, and rarely get accused of buying success. Or maybe they do?

Idont think i've ever watched a German match at all, i was just pointing out if Dortmund had won their last match of the season, they would have won the league, you cant get much closer than that, ask Hearts. :greengrin

Since90+2
13-08-2023, 11:38 AM
I was just meaning in general.I don't follow German football, but it seems like Bayern dominate everything there now. I don't remember that being the case in years gone by and wondered what it is they did, or are doing, differently, to get to where they are.

PSG for example just outspend other clubs in France by a huge amount.

Bayern do similar (Kane), but they never get seen in a bad light like PSG, Man City or Real Madrid do, and rarely get accused of buying success. Or maybe they do?

Bayern are owned by their supporters, they own 75% of the club.

Not comparable in any way to PSG and City. The reason City and PSG outspend their rivals is because they have insanely rich Arab state owners, absolutely nothing like Bayern.

German football has been largely untouched by foreign investment trying to buy success.

Kato
13-08-2023, 11:39 AM
That paper is to rangers what GB news is to the tories and KM is the mouthpiece.


Dan WootHun.

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jacomo
13-08-2023, 11:43 AM
Bayern are owned by their supporters, they own 75% of the club.

Not comparable in any way to PSG and City. The reason City and PSG outspend their rivals is because they have insanely rich Arab state owners, absolutely nothing like Bayern.

German football has been largely untouched by foreign investment trying to buy success.


Yes but ‘FC Hollywood’ do nonetheless get criticised for their unhealthy domination of German football and habit of buying any domestic player who proves a threat to them.

I’m just wondering if Harry Kane is cursed… maybe their trophy-winning days are at an end?!

Since90+2
13-08-2023, 11:54 AM
Yes but ‘FC Hollywood’ do nonetheless get criticised for their unhealthy domination of German football and habit of buying any domestic player who proves a threat to them.

I’m just wondering if Harry Kane is cursed… maybe their trophy-winning days are at an end?!

I've never agreed with the outrage of buying players who stand out in your domestic league.

The buying club know they already know the league and there's no issue with them maybe not settling ect. It's far less of an issue to me than effectively states buying football clubs and artificially inflating their worth.

If the old firm ever left Scottish football and Hibs were the top team, I'd expect us to shop in our domestic market for the best players. Or would we want us to ignore potentially great players on our doorsteps?

Dmas
13-08-2023, 12:10 PM
Bayern are a commercial juggernaut puts them miles ahead financially of any other team, the 50+1 rule stops other teams being able to shut that gap from outside investment so Bayern can keep there star players (some times too long like just now) and the rest can’t. Leipzig have gotten round these rules and are hated nationally for it, but still can’t close the gap and are consistently rebuilding after player sales another 3 big players away this season, doesn’t seem to have had much effect judging by last night, Dortmund have had a couple opportunities but poor managerial choices and infighting in the boardroom have stopped them

Stairway 2 7
13-08-2023, 12:32 PM
Bayern are just the Celtic or Juventus of Germany. Supporters clubs from Berlin to Hamburg. F them, kick on Frankfurt

Callum_62
13-08-2023, 12:37 PM
Melkerson is at fir park

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Lago
13-08-2023, 12:49 PM
Miller was never a Hibs fan. He is a complete chopper though.
In my defence, I did say former club, not fan, but I agree with you 100% he doesn't even sound knowledgeable in his punditry role:confused:

keep the faith
13-08-2023, 12:56 PM
I've never agreed with the outrage of buying players who stand out in your domestic league.

The buying club know they already know the league and there's no issue with them maybe not settling ect. It's far less of an issue to me than effectively states buying football clubs and artificially inflating their worth.

If the old firm ever left Scottish football and Hibs were the top team, I'd expect us to shop in our domestic market for the best players. Or would we want us to ignore potentially great players on our doorsteps?

I have no issue with them wanting Boyle or bidding for him. We wouldn't sell anyway.
My issue is with BBC pundits using newspaper columns to try and unsettle other clubs because they wish that good player was at their club.

Since90+2
13-08-2023, 01:13 PM
I have no issue with them wanting Boyle or bidding for him. We wouldn't sell anyway.
My issue is with BBC pundits using newspaper columns to try and unsettle other clubs because they wish that good player was at their club.

Not sure why you're quoting my post? I agree with you on the pundit thing.

jacomo
13-08-2023, 01:16 PM
I've never agreed with the outrage of buying players who stand out in your domestic league.

The buying club know they already know the league and there's no issue with them maybe not settling ect. It's far less of an issue to me than effectively states buying football clubs and artificially inflating their worth.

If the old firm ever left Scottish football and Hibs were the top team, I'd expect us to shop in our domestic market for the best players. Or would we want us to ignore potentially great players on our doorsteps?


Were you hoping SJM would go to Celtc? Or cheering when Scott Allan, Kenny Miller, Ian Murray or Didier Agathe left us for Glasgow?

It’s quite easy to understand. At least three times in past decade Borussia Dortmund ran Bayern close and so Bayern tapped up their best player.

It’s a dirty business.

keep the faith
13-08-2023, 01:58 PM
Not sure why you're quoting my post? I agree with you on the pundit thing.

Apologies. I thought your post was re Boyle.

Since90+2
13-08-2023, 02:05 PM
Were you hoping SJM would go to Celtc? Or cheering when Scott Allan, Kenny Miller, Ian Murray or Didier Agathe left us for Glasgow?

It’s quite easy to understand. At least three times in past decade Borussia Dortmund ran Bayern close and so Bayern tapped up their best player.

It’s a dirty business.

What an odd question. No I wasn't, I was pretty happy when we signed SJM, Nisbet and Agathe from smaller domestic clubs than us though.

I'm guessing you think we shouldn't have signed them in the spirit of not taking smaller domestic clubs best players?

Unless you someone think we'd have somehow been challenging Celtic for the title had they not signed Scott Allan? Strange view to take.

jacomo
13-08-2023, 03:59 PM
What an odd question. No I wasn't, I was pretty happy when we signed SJM, Nisbet and Agathe from smaller domestic clubs than us though.

I'm guessing you think we shouldn't have signed them in the spirit of not taking smaller domestic clubs best players?

Unless you someone think we'd have somehow been challenging Celtic for the title had they not signed Scott Allan? Strange view to take.


Not what I’m saying at all. Stop making stuff up and calling it strange, the strangeness is in your head.

Since90+2
13-08-2023, 04:12 PM
Not what I’m saying at all. Stop making stuff up and calling it strange, the strangeness is in your head.

I'm not really sure what your point is. Celtic and Rangers can't sign players from smaller clubs in Scotland but it's fine when we do it?

Gotcha. Makes total sense as always from Jacomo.

cabbageandribs1875
13-08-2023, 07:07 PM
Leeds' jack Harrison apparently agreed to join Everton on season-long loan


until Aston Villa hijacked the deal, they and Leeds have already agreed a deal, Villa have been informed he's presently injured and probably still out for another 4-6 weeks.... up to Villa

lol what a farce


Jack Harrison was the player that was actually at Leicester City agreeing a deal and getting a medical when that tw@t Victor Orta called him to tell him Leeds would match the Leicester deal, iirc that was in the Jan window

The Modfather
13-08-2023, 08:03 PM
I saw Alan Campbell was on the bench for Luton and didn’t get on. Think he was a regular last season. If he’s not going to play this season I wonder if we could get him on loan. They would probably want to keep him for next season in the championship. So a loan the only likely option, if an option at all.

Same with Docherty, not featured for Hull this season. Not sure if he’s injured though.

How realistic is it if we get a Doig windfall and/or were to take money for any of Campbell, Newell (the two most likely to net a fee), JDH, Henderson or Jeggo, we could use it to try and sign Docherty and/or Campbell? Either or loan, or less likely, permanently/an option to buy.

Stuart93
13-08-2023, 08:10 PM
Hearts brining in a CB/RB who’s played five times for Brighton. Sounds a decent pedigree

Wilson
13-08-2023, 08:12 PM
Hearts brining in a CB/RB who’s played five times for Brighton. Sounds a decent pedigree

What? 5 times! Amazing number of games. Fantastic pedigree. Well spotted.

Stuart93
13-08-2023, 08:16 PM
What? 5 times! Amazing number of games. Fantastic pedigree. Well spotted.

I said sounds like a decent pedigree.

Zero reason to get your knickers in a wee twist there. Bizarre reaction.

Wilson
13-08-2023, 08:41 PM
I said sounds like a decent pedigree.

Zero reason to get your knickers in a wee twist there. Bizarre reaction.

He'll be pedigree. Pedigree chum. Dug meat. Hasn't played nearly enough games for a 20 year old.

Hearts are desperate for cover and doing their mates at Brighton a favour at the same time.

Not worth polluting a hibs transfer thread with.

Stuart93
13-08-2023, 08:57 PM
He'll be pedigree. Pedigree chum. Dug meat. Hasn't played nearly enough games for a 20 year old.

Hearts are desperate for cover and doing their mates at Brighton a favour at the same time.

Not worth polluting a hibs transfer thread with.

Their last loanee from brighton wasn’t too bad

Real Emerald
14-08-2023, 12:02 AM
Is there any expectations that we’re going to bring more in? We definitely need to but there seems to be no talk about it whatsoever.

ddoc
14-08-2023, 01:55 AM
He'll be pedigree. Pedigree chum. Dug meat. Hasn't played nearly enough games for a 20 year old.

Hearts are desperate for cover and doing their mates at Brighton a favour at the same time.

Not worth polluting a hibs transfer thread with.


If it was a 'hibs transfer thread' it would not run to 360 pages.

cameronw-hfc
14-08-2023, 02:14 AM
Is there any expectations that we’re going to bring more in? We definitely need to but there seems to be no talk about it whatsoever.

Yep, club are defo still looking, even if there's no noise/LJ says he's happy with the squad for now.

Probably loans at this point, but I do think as the end of the window gets closer and players looking for moves have less options there may be movement on one or two perms.

neil7908
14-08-2023, 03:15 AM
Interesting what Chelsea are doing. There's been a lot of chat on here in the past (mostly RE Doig so Hibs related) about once a bid is accepted, that's the value met and why would anyone offer more.

It appears Todd Boehly hasn't been on here as for both Caicedo and Lavia, they are bidding higher than a previously accepted bid (Caicedo) and more than a release clause (Lavia).

Now Chelsea are not exactly the poster boy for sensible transfer dealings but these kind of situations do exist, albeit they are very rare!

Nutmegged
14-08-2023, 06:06 AM
I saw Alan Campbell was on the bench for Luton and didn’t get on. Think he was a regular last season. If he’s not going to play this season I wonder if we could get him on loan. They would probably want to keep him for next season in the championship. So a loan the only likely option, if an option at all.

Same with Docherty, not featured for Hull this season. Not sure if he’s injured though.

How realistic is it if we get a Doig windfall and/or were to take money for any of Campbell, Newell (the two most likely to net a fee), JDH, Henderson or Jeggo, we could use it to try and sign Docherty and/or Campbell? Either or loan, or less likely, permanently/an option to buy.

Zero unfortunately, he was an overwhelming success for a club who got out the Championship, that means there will always be a Championship club willing to take him on and pay him wages that we can only dream about (I.e £10k p/w), the time to get Campbell was when he was leaving Motherwell, as soon as they leave for England there's only two clubs up here capable of attracting them back unless they've been a failure.

AugustaHibs
14-08-2023, 07:11 AM
Interesting what Chelsea are doing. There's been a lot of chat on here in the past (mostly RE Doig so Hibs related) about once a bid is accepted, that's the value met and why would anyone offer more.

It appears Todd Boehly hasn't been on here as for both Caicedo and Lavia, they are bidding higher than a previously accepted bid (Caicedo) and more than a release clause (Lavia).

Now Chelsea are not exactly the poster boy for sensible transfer dealings but these kind of situations do exist, albeit they are very rare!

It actually is pretty sensible. If they pay the release clause they can’t amortise the transfer over multiple years, but they can if they do it the way they’re currently making signings.

BSEJVT
14-08-2023, 08:02 AM
It actually is pretty sensible. If they pay the release clause they can’t amortise the transfer over multiple years, but they can if they do it the way they’re currently making signings.

On the one hand it is creative thinking but.......

They run a real risk of having truckloads of poorly motivated or even players not reaching the required standard and being on long term contracts that wont be replicated or near it anywhere else.

Last season at Chelsea give a hint of what can happen in that scenario.

But you don't need to look to far to see how that works out, when you have players on your books you want rid off but cant get anyone to take on and cant convince them to move on anyway.

Given the sums involved their problems could be a million times worse than ours as there are now (Saudi apart) very few clubs in the world with the spending power of EPL clubs.

The EPL gravy train must hit the buffers one day

CapitalGreen
14-08-2023, 08:17 AM
It actually is pretty sensible. If they pay the release clause they can’t amortise the transfer over multiple years, but they can if they do it the way they’re currently making signings.

Why can’t they amortise is over many years?

Are you confusing amortisation with paying in installments?

CropleyWasGod
14-08-2023, 10:26 AM
It actually is pretty sensible. f they pay the release clause they can’t amortise the transfer over multiple years, but they can if they do it the way they’re currently making signings.

They can, and should. It's good practice. A transfer fee is a transfer fee, whether it's due to a release clause or not.

The current UEFA limit for amortising transfer fee is 5 years, irrespective of the length of the contract.

Up-the-slope
14-08-2023, 11:42 AM
£77 million for Neymar punted to Saudi too... bet they are glad to see back of him - probably funding package for Mbappe if rumour true

NGoloGrantie
14-08-2023, 01:16 PM
https://twitter.com/godset_direkte/status/1691026473572769793?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

Looks like melks is away

‘Elias Hoff Melkersen is only details away from becoming a new Strømsgodset player, the 20-year-old has today traveled to Drammen to complete the transfer. The Hibernian striker signs on loan for the first half of the season.’

Wonder if we have a replacement lined up


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JohnM1875
14-08-2023, 01:23 PM
https://twitter.com/godset_direkte/status/1691026473572769793?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

Looks like melks is away

‘Elias Hoff Melkersen is only details away from becoming a new Strømsgodset player, the 20-year-old has today traveled to Drammen to complete the transfer. The Hibernian striker signs on loan for the first half of the season.’

Wonder if we have a replacement lined up


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Hopefully this loan actually works out for all involved. Last one was a shocker.

JimBHibees
14-08-2023, 01:58 PM
Hopefully this loan actually works out for all involved. Last one was a shocker.

Don't think there was ever any chance of getting real game time at Sparta. Was kind of hoping longer loan or perm for both parties sakes

lyonhibs
14-08-2023, 01:59 PM
They can, and should. It's good practice. A transfer fee is a transfer fee, whether it's due to a release clause or not.

The current UEFA limit for amortising transfer fee is 5 years, irrespective of the length of the contract. (although I think there may be a loophole for English clubs ATM)

If I'm not wrong the only loophole is that the new rule doesn't apply to deals that were signed before it came into effect - like Mudryk etc.

But any fee this season, like you say, can only be amortised across 5 years so 115 million for Caicedo on an 8 year contract (or whatever) is still 23 million a year as far as the accountancy is concerned

lyonhibs
14-08-2023, 02:00 PM
https://twitter.com/godset_direkte/status/1691026473572769793?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

Looks like melks is away

‘Elias Hoff Melkersen is only details away from becoming a new Strømsgodset player, the 20-year-old has today traveled to Drammen to complete the transfer. The Hibernian striker signs on loan for the first half of the season.’

Wonder if we have a replacement lined up


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I hope we don't have a replacement lined up and the wages saved can go into assisting an area of the team where the squad depth is currently dug **** - full back or centre midfield

Torto7
14-08-2023, 03:30 PM
£77 million for Neymar punted to Saudi too... bet they are glad to see back of him - probably funding package for Mbappe if rumour true

I've enjoyed watching the Plastics from Paris utterly flop over the last few years. Not Neymar, Messi, Mbappe or any of the other greedy turds could win a champions league. :na na:

A Hi-Bee
14-08-2023, 04:42 PM
https://twitter.com/godset_direkte/status/1691026473572769793?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

Looks like melks is away

‘Elias Hoff Melkersen is only details away from becoming a new Strømsgodset player, the 20-year-old has today traveled to Drammen to complete the transfer. The Hibernian striker signs on loan for the first half of the season.’

Wonder if we have a replacement lined up


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Good luck to him if true, he needs a run of games and some goals.

cabbageandribs1875
14-08-2023, 04:45 PM
Jack Harrison joins Everton on loan and Leeds won't get a penny, and to think they could have got £20m from Leicester for him in January


still, wonder if he will still remain with Everton when they're in the Championship next season...along with Leeds :greengrin

jacomo
14-08-2023, 04:55 PM
It actually is pretty sensible. If they pay the release clause they can’t amortise the transfer over multiple years, but they can if they do it the way they’re currently making signings.


Why can’t they amortise a release clause over the length of the new contract?

JammyDoidger
14-08-2023, 04:59 PM
https://twitter.com/godset_direkte/status/1691026473572769793?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

Looks like melks is away

‘Elias Hoff Melkersen is only details away from becoming a new Strømsgodset player, the 20-year-old has today traveled to Drammen to complete the transfer. The Hibernian striker signs on loan for the first half of the season.’

Wonder if we have a replacement lined up


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Must be a club in the championship that would take him, surely a better option.

McD
14-08-2023, 05:03 PM
Why can’t they amortise a release clause over the length of the new contract?


the rules were changed earlier this year when Chelsea starting signing players to 7 and 8 year deals in order to stretch the amortised payments out to try to get round FFP and the premier league equivalent.

it’s now set at a maximum of 5 years to amortise a fee, regardless of the length of contract the player signs

Dmas
14-08-2023, 05:05 PM
https://youtu.be/dYktOnzx9ec

Simon Jordan broke it down quite well how chelsea are managing round FFP this morning.

BoomtownHibees
14-08-2023, 05:06 PM
Shankland leaving them

babahibs
14-08-2023, 05:11 PM
Shankland leaving them

Big offer from the Saudi league apparently

BoomtownHibees
14-08-2023, 05:11 PM
Big offer from the Saudi league apparently

Recently changed agent to the same one as Jack Hendry as well so makes sense

Up-the-slope
14-08-2023, 05:18 PM
wonder how long it will be until some of the Saudi bound footballers have 'indiscretions' that are culturally unacceptable and it all ends in tears

Up-the-slope
14-08-2023, 05:26 PM
I've enjoyed watching the Plastics from Paris utterly flop over the last few years. Not Neymar, Messi, Mbappe or any of the other greedy turds could win a champions league. :na na:

:agree: I think I have always had a dislike for Neymar ever since him playing a friendly against Scotland at Arsenals ground when he feigned / dived / bleated and generally acted like he was a big shot when he was barely known... and he complained about being racially abused (when it was him being a cretin that was cause of scots fans ire)

California-Hibs
14-08-2023, 05:28 PM
Shankland leaving them

Would be brilliant if it actually happens. They'd be significantly weaked with him out the team! He's saved them on many an occasion.

Up-the-slope
14-08-2023, 05:32 PM
Would be brilliant if it actually happens. They'd be significantly weaked with him out the team! He's saved them on many an occasion.

But surely they will only agree if enough money to add better / more to team?

007
14-08-2023, 05:49 PM
Hearts in no rush to sell. Yeah, take your time, there's 2 and a half weeks to get the deal done, just in time for the transfer window slamming shut without a replacement.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/lawrence-shankland-wanted-by-saudi-and-english-clubs-but-hearts-are-in-no-rush-to-sell-despite-a-huge-transfer-fee-4254302

Is It On....
14-08-2023, 05:55 PM
If I'm not wrong the only loophole is that the new rule doesn't apply to deals that were signed before it came into effect - like Mudryk etc.

But any fee this season, like you say, can only be amortised across 5 years so 115 million for Caicedo on an 8 year contract (or whatever) is still 23 million a year as far as the accountancy is concerned

Wonder if Brighton amortised the £4m they paid for him TWO years ago 😂

CropleyWasGod
14-08-2023, 06:03 PM
Wonder if Brighton amortised the £4m they paid for him TWO years ago ��

They would have been writing it down over the period of his contract.

If that deal was 4 years, for example, they would have already written his value down to £2m. (so, in accounts terms, a profit of £113m :greengrin )

Smartie
14-08-2023, 06:16 PM
Must be a club in the championship that would take him, surely a better option.

I think part of his problem is the inflated opinion that he and almost everybody else has of him. He’s going to keep getting moves to clubs at a higher level than he can cope at, it is very quickly found out that he’s not up to scratch and he ends up not playing and not progressing.

He needs to be playing regularly and he’s a championship player tops, probably league one. If he’s lucky.

Melkersen’s career is going to be ruined by the delusion that he’s better than he is. If he starts doing the right thing now, he might be up to scratch in 2-3 years.

He won’t though.

We’re going to be complicit in the ruining of a young player but at the moment - rightly or wrongly - we appear to simply be desperate to get him off the wage bill. Again.

LunasBoots
14-08-2023, 06:37 PM
https://youtu.be/dYktOnzx9ec

Simon Jordan broke it down quite well how chelsea are managing round FFP this morning.

Yup, it's pretty disgusting what they are doing, imagine hiring lawyers to get round FFP with loopholes, it's actually disgusting.

truehibernian
14-08-2023, 06:52 PM
Hibs keen on Cudjoe from Dundee United I’m told.

Hibees1973
14-08-2023, 07:01 PM
Hibs keen on Cudjoe from Dundee United I’m told.

He's a forward, so yes this would make complete sense by our recruitment team. Given it is our defence that needs major surgery.

Two good quality full backs and a centre half is what we urgently need.

Chorley Hibee
14-08-2023, 07:01 PM
Hibs keen on Cudjoe from Dundee United I’m told.

Just what we need...

A 19 year old who has only played a handful of games at this level.

Sounds about right knowing us.

Nicho87
14-08-2023, 07:04 PM
Waiting for the Nathan wood, boateng type signing

Next best thing, no experience but it’s a total coup for hibs

Same every window in times gone by.

Eyrie
14-08-2023, 07:06 PM
Just what we need...

A 19 year old who has only played a handful of games at this level.

Sounds about right knowing us.

He'll be signed for the vanity project development squad.

Which would be fine if we had the money to burn but we don't so we need to spend what we do have on better players for the first team.

truehibernian
14-08-2023, 07:06 PM
He's a forward, so yes this would make complete sense by our recruitment team. Given it is our defence that needs major surgery.

Two good quality full backs and a centre half is what we urgently need.

I agree, just posting what I was told.

For me we need an athletic and physical left back and really physical midfielder in the Bartley mould - that would protect the central area. So I don’t disagree with you at all.

Bridge hibs
14-08-2023, 07:12 PM
I agree, just posting what I was told.

For me we need an athletic and physical left back and really physical midfielder in the Bartley mould - that would protect the central area. So I don’t disagree with you at all.

Wonder what Snodgrass is up to these days

JohnM1875
14-08-2023, 07:13 PM
Hibs keen on Cudjoe from Dundee United I’m told.

Actually think the boys a player. Not entirely what we need, but he looks good.

Heisenberg
14-08-2023, 07:14 PM
He's a forward, so yes this would make complete sense by our recruitment team. Given it is our defence that needs major surgery.

Two good quality full backs and a centre half is what we urgently need.

We need depth out wide though, have no options to replace Boyle and Obita is covering for left wing and left back currently.

Hibees1973
14-08-2023, 07:15 PM
Shankland leaving them

I may be wrong but a Yam I know has said his contract expires next year.

Would make sense to sell him now and get cash.

Bridge hibs
14-08-2023, 07:16 PM
Actually think the boys a player. Not entirely what we need, but he looks good.

Attacking midfielder isnt he ? Im sure he came in as a sub v us last season and was a pacy pain in the erse, unless Ive got him mixed up with someone else

JimBHibees
14-08-2023, 07:17 PM
Just what we need...

A 19 year old who has only played a handful of games at this level.

Sounds about right knowing us.

Very promising wide player. Would be happy if we signed him.

JohnM1875
14-08-2023, 07:18 PM
Attacking midfielder isnt he ? Im sure he came in as a sub v us last season and was a pacy pain in the erse, unless Ive got him mixed up with someone else

Nah, you're spot on. Looks a real talent and would be pleased if we were after him.

Scooter
14-08-2023, 07:31 PM
Waiting for the Nathan wood, boateng type signing

Next best thing, no experience but it’s a total coup for hibs

Same every window in times gone by.

Nathan Wood turned out good (not for us) but I'm sure he's a regular starter for Swansea

eastmainsmsh
14-08-2023, 07:56 PM
Seen Cudjoe at east mains last year impressive

BoomtownHibees
14-08-2023, 08:11 PM
Melkersen just tweeted “Can’t wait to get started” in a reply to a signing announcement by Stromsgodset

JohnM1875
14-08-2023, 08:14 PM
Melkersen just tweeted “Can’t wait to get started” in a reply to a signing announcement by Stromsgodset

Good stuff, hope he actually manages to kick on and gets some game time.

Is It On....
14-08-2023, 08:29 PM
They would have been writing it down over the period of his contract.

If that deal was 4 years, for example, they would have already written his value down to £2m. (so, in accounts terms, a profit of £113m :greengrin )

So would that be the straight line amortisation or accelerated amortisation method 🤔😂

Unseen work
14-08-2023, 08:42 PM
Melkersen officially away on loan until January.

Got a fee for the loan too.

Win win

Aldo
14-08-2023, 08:56 PM
Melkersen officially away on loan until January.

Got a fee for the loan too.

Win win

Another striker required then!

Well attacking option

JohnM1875
14-08-2023, 08:57 PM
Melkersen officially away on loan until January.

Got a fee for the loan too.

Win win

Reckon that's his time at Hibs up. Even if he smashes it back home just can't see him giving that up to come back here.

JohnM1875
14-08-2023, 08:57 PM
Another striker required then!

Well attacking option

If we're to continue with two up top then definitely.

Aldo
14-08-2023, 08:59 PM
If we're to continue with two up top then definitely.

Hopefully someone identified after letting EM go out on loan.

Keepthefaith
14-08-2023, 09:08 PM
Waiting for the Nathan wood, boateng type signing

Next best thing, no experience but it’s a total coup for hibs

Same every window in times gone by.

You mean like will fish and cj egan-riley type signing? So easy to be selective to prove a point and beat the club with a big stick eh?

expresso
14-08-2023, 09:12 PM
We could do worse than Scales from Celtic to play left back.
Strong and physical and lb is his best position.
Saw him quite a few times with Shamrock Rovers.

Bridge hibs
14-08-2023, 09:17 PM
We could do worse than Scales from Celtic to play left back.
Strong and physical and lb is his best position.
Saw him quite a few times with Shamrock Rovers.

He was hopeless at Aberdeen and probably a reason he isnt back there now

jeffers
14-08-2023, 09:19 PM
We could do worse than Scales from Celtic to play left back.
Strong and physical and lb is his best position.
Saw him quite a few times with Shamrock Rovers.

Obita was signed to be our first choice left back this season.

ScottB
14-08-2023, 09:29 PM
wonder how long it will be until some of the Saudi bound footballers have 'indiscretions' that are culturally unacceptable and it all ends in tears

Possibly, but then Ronaldo already got permission to be the only allowed non married couple to live together…

Probably one of those things were a blind eye will be turned right up until it isn’t.

Donegal Hibby
14-08-2023, 09:48 PM
He was hopeless at Aberdeen and probably a reason he isnt back there now
Yeah but he was consistent though 😂😂😂

Nakedmanoncrack
14-08-2023, 10:02 PM
Melkersen officially away on loan until January.

Got a fee for the loan too.

Win win

Doubt if we'll see him back, nowhere near good enough, and the club claiming to have 'got a fee' for loaning out someone who has been a total waste of money looks a desperate effort to save some face to be honest.

Nicho87
14-08-2023, 10:07 PM
You mean like will fish and cj egan-riley type signing? So easy to be selective to prove a point and beat the club with a big stick eh?

When the club has handed our five and 3 year deals to boys like Tavares and Henderson in the last 12 months, aye I will use my stick.

Thanks though

GreenGray
14-08-2023, 10:16 PM
He was hopeless at Aberdeen and probably a reason he isnt back there now

Actually performed very well towards end of season once Stewart went and was a big part in finishing 3rd. Aberdeen fans wanted him back.


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DH1875
14-08-2023, 10:16 PM
Possibly, but then Ronaldo already got permission to be the only allowed non married couple to live together…

Probably one of those things were a blind eye will be turned right up until it isn’t.

Non married foreigners have been allowed to stay together in Saudi since end of 2019.

007
14-08-2023, 10:18 PM
He was hopeless at Aberdeen and probably a reason he isnt back there now

Barry Robson wants him but Brendan Rodgers is stringing him along.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/liam-scales-aberdeen-transfer-latest-30690727

Bridge hibs
14-08-2023, 10:36 PM
Barry Robson wants him but Brendan Rodgers is stringing him along.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/liam-scales-aberdeen-transfer-latest-30690727

Hope they get him then because he is ****, certainly in the games Ive seen him in, I would rather give Harbottle a chance

Nutmegged
14-08-2023, 10:40 PM
We could do worse than Scales from Celtic to play left back.
Strong and physical and lb is his best position.
Saw him quite a few times with Shamrock Rovers.
Nah he's a far better LCB than a LB, I also think he'll be on his way back to Aberdeen, imagine that one is done behind the scenes but Rodgers is just not wanting to leave himself short until he gets more bodies in the door.

I'd be looking at Matt Pollock though, he was excellent for them last season and he's now back on the Watford bench, been an unused sub in their 3 games, didn't even get minutes in the cup, I'm sure Porteous could put a good word in for us if we had genuine interest in taking the boy on loan.

badabing67
15-08-2023, 11:53 AM
Off topic. Just seen HFC has tweeted there is a live stream off the game on Thursday on SolidSport, does anybody know if it is available on HibsTV International subs. Any info appreciated

flash
15-08-2023, 11:56 AM
Off topic. Just seen HFC has tweeted there is a live stream off the game on Thursday on SolidSport, does anybody know if it is available on HibsTV International subs. Any info appreciated

No Hibs TV coverage but pay per view available worldwide.

badabing67
15-08-2023, 12:21 PM
No Hibs TV coverage but pay per view available worldwide.Just seen the thread on the forum main page. Galahibby posted this link https://www.srf.ch/play/tv/-/video/f...eo:srf:1782393

eastmainsmsh
15-08-2023, 12:46 PM
Good luck to young Melkerson how many starts has he made hope he makes a right go at stromgodset

Torto7
15-08-2023, 03:38 PM
When the club has handed our five and 3 year deals to boys like Tavares and Henderson in the last 12 months, aye I will use my stick.Thanks thoughEvery club ***** up signings. Der Hun have made a pigs ear of their signings.

Wilson
15-08-2023, 03:45 PM
Good luck to young Melkerson how many starts has he made hope he makes a right go at stromgodset

He had impressive stats at Ranheim.

We perhaps overestimated what stats at that level meant and how prepared that made him for Scottish football.

Certainly though he should have enough about him to have shown a bit more - particularly during that period where he was sent on a bizarre and unproductive loan.

He needs a bit of luck and a couple of goals to kick-start his career. Hope he gets the chance.

HoboHarry
15-08-2023, 03:49 PM
Every club ***** up signings. Der Hun have made a pigs ear of their signings.Exactly, but that doesn't fit the agenda for some posters.

JohnM1875
15-08-2023, 03:58 PM
Every club ***** up signings. Der Hun have made a pigs ear of their signings.

Some teams can get away with poor recruitment more than others though. Sevco will sell out their stadium and finish second giving them a chance of Champions League football. So guaranteed money.

We recruit poorly and we're in a fight for top six and attendance falls off.

Keepthefaith
15-08-2023, 04:24 PM
Waiting for the Nathan wood, boateng type signing

Next best thing, no experience but it’s a total coup for hibs

Same every window in times gone by.

Except you used the example of 2 loans in Nathan wood (who is now doing well in championship) and bojang (sent back appropriately) neither of which had long term deals??

You then generalise using these two as examples of how we always get it wrong every window yet my examples of fish and cj show we don't.

So yeah you do like put the boot into the club IMO. At least have some balance and don't make lazy generalisations or factually incorrect comparisons if you want to be taken seriously??

CapitalGreen
15-08-2023, 04:27 PM
Some teams can get away with poor recruitment more than others though. Sevco will sell out their stadium and finish second giving them a chance of Champions League football. So guaranteed money.

We recruit poorly and we're in a fight for top six and attendance falls off.

Are Rangers fans happy continually finishing 2nd in a 2 horse race?

JohnM1875
15-08-2023, 04:31 PM
Are Rangers fans happy continually finishing 2nd in a 2 horse race?

Absolutely not. But they've also won the league and Scottish Cup in the past few years, will walk second in the league this year again and are guaranteed European football til at least Christmas.

So, as a club they can get away with a few poor transfer windows much more than we can.

HoboHarry
15-08-2023, 04:36 PM
Absolutely not. But they've also won the league and Scottish Cup in the past few years, will walk second in the league this year again and are guaranteed European football til at least Christmas. So, as a club they can get away with a few poor transfer windows much more than we can.One league and one cup since they were formed in 2012, that's a crap return on their money by any metric. And they can't afford to throw money away - they may have more than us but thanks to their mismanagement they are relatively broke.

Torto7
15-08-2023, 05:11 PM
Some teams can get away with poor recruitment more than others though. Sevco will sell out their stadium and finish second giving them a chance of Champions League football. So guaranteed money. We recruit poorly and we're in a fight for top six and attendance falls off.That's guff. They need to meet their targets just like we do. No team gets 100 % of signings spot on.

badabing67
15-08-2023, 07:20 PM
Just noticed Jair Tavares is not included in the development squad for tonight's game wonder if he is back in the squad for Thursday.

IberianHibernian
15-08-2023, 07:27 PM
Just noticed Jair Tavares is not included in the development squad for tonight's game wonder if he is back in the squad for Thursday.Noticed that . Not sure if he played in last round either . Maybe not eligible . Daz playing so maybe only one over 21 allowed . Played in pre season friendlies , not sure about reserve league game or cup . Hope we`re not trying to push him out .

MrRobot
15-08-2023, 07:30 PM
Just noticed Jair Tavares is not included in the development squad for tonight's game wonder if he is back in the squad for Thursday.

Highly doubt he’ll be going into the squad for Thursdays game.

Since90+2
15-08-2023, 07:33 PM
One league and one cup since they were formed in 2012, that's a crap return on their money by any metric. And they can't afford to throw money away - they may have more than us but thanks to their mismanagement they are relatively broke.

They also got to a Europa League final in that time, which is probably a bigger achievement than anything you can do domestically.

HoboHarry
15-08-2023, 07:35 PM
They also got to a Europa League final in that time, which is probably a bigger achievement than anything you can do domestically.Ah right, so all their fans will be thinking that everything's hunky dory then? Behave yourself, they are vastly underachieving given their spending levels since 2012.

JohnM1875
15-08-2023, 07:39 PM
Ah right, so all their fans will be thinking that everything's hunky dory then? Behave yourself, they are vastly underachieving given their spending levels since 2012.

I honestly don't think they are. I'm actually surprised they've managed a league title in the 10 or so years. So far behind Celtic for that period.

Probably could have done better in the cups mind you.

Don't get me wrong I know their fans will think they're underachieving! But they've just come up against a much better team in Celtic.

Since90+2
15-08-2023, 07:40 PM
Ah right, so all their fans will be thinking that everything's hunky dory then? Behave yourself, they are vastly underachieving given their spending levels since 2012.

Jeez ,calm down fella, was just pointing out that's also something they've achieved in the timescale you mentioned.

Maybe have a wee green tea or something and chill oot Mr Angry.

Nicho87
15-08-2023, 07:54 PM
Except you used the example of 2 loans in Nathan wood (who is now doing well in championship) and bojang (sent back appropriately) neither of which had long term deals??

You then generalise using these two as examples of how we always get it wrong every window yet my examples of fish and cj show we don't.

So yeah you do like put the boot into the club IMO. At least have some balance and don't make lazy generalisations or factually incorrect comparisons if you want to be taken seriously??

Taken seriously

Who the hell do you think you are

WeeRussell
15-08-2023, 08:00 PM
Its all a bit touchy on here tonight.

Nicho87
15-08-2023, 08:01 PM
Its all a bit touchy on here tonight.

&£@:; off ;-/

HoboHarry
15-08-2023, 08:03 PM
Its all a bit touchy on here tonight.Aye sorry, I'm guilty. Sevco bring out the worst in me.

WeeRussell
16-08-2023, 10:21 AM
Aye sorry, I'm guilty. Sevco bring out the worst in me.

Very understandable.

WeeRussell
16-08-2023, 10:22 AM
&£@:; off ;-/

How shall we **** off oh lord?

Hibbyradge
16-08-2023, 10:26 AM
How shall we **** off oh lord?

We may have a little job for you, Russell...

BILLYHIBS
17-08-2023, 10:48 AM
Manchester City sign Tyrese Noubisse 14 year old son of former Hibee Patrick Noubisse from Leicester City for 1m Tyrese is eligible to play for Scotland England Cameroon and France but has already opted for Les Blues

SHODAN
17-08-2023, 10:50 AM
Manchester City sign Tyrese Noubisse 14 year old son of former Hibee Patrick Noubisse from Leicester City for 1m Tyrese is eligible to play for Scotland England Cameroon and France but has already opted for Les Blues Wonder if he was born here? Dad was playing for Dundee around about then.

CallumLaidlaw
17-08-2023, 10:51 AM
Wonder if he was born here? Dad was playing for Dundee around about then.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230817/e57725d2c0c4a31930e5c8925a5aa71e.jpg
Livingston born.


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Springbank
17-08-2023, 12:01 PM
Hearing a fair bit of rumour Shankland to Saudi (from hearts), Nouble to hearts (from Livi) both 7 figure sum deals

KeithTheHibby
17-08-2023, 12:10 PM
Hearing a fair bit of rumour Shankland to Saudi (from hearts), Nouble to hearts (from Livi) both 7 figure sum deals

He is such a Hearts type forward.

ErinGoBraghHFC
17-08-2023, 12:16 PM
He is such a Hearts type forward.


He is, when did hearts make their signing policy for strikers to just be big lanky nasty *******s? They’ve had a few genuinely decent centre forwards over the years, as in genuinely good footballers and not just a bully. Robertson is the obvious hearts striker that comes to mind but why are they so against bringing in a footballing forward player like Velička from years gone by? Not that I’m complaining but I can’t understand wanting to have some Uche tribute act over a decent footballer.


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KeithTheHibby
17-08-2023, 12:19 PM
He is, when did hearts make their signing policy for strikers to just be big lanky nasty *******s? They’ve had a few genuinely decent centre forwards over the years, as in genuinely good footballers and not just a bully. Robertson is the obvious hearts striker that comes to mind but why are they so against bringing in a footballing forward player like Velička from years gone by? Not that I’m complaining but I can’t understand wanting to have some Uche tribute act over a decent footballer.


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Robertson played alongside Sandy Clark who was a big battering ram albeit a decent player so they have been doing it for year as far as I am concerned.

Kato
17-08-2023, 12:25 PM
He is, when did hearts make their signing policy for strikers to just be big lanky nasty *******s? They’ve had a few genuinely decent centre forwards over the years, as in genuinely good footballers and not just a bully. Robertson is the obvious hearts striker that comes to mind but why are they so against bringing in a footballing forward player like Velička from years gone by? Not that I’m complaining but I can’t understand wanting to have some Uche tribute act over a decent footballer.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSandy Clark. Jimmy Bone. Even back in the 50s their terrible trio had a tactic called the "battering ram".

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Heisenberg
17-08-2023, 12:26 PM
Hearing a fair bit of rumour Shankland to Saudi (from hearts), Nouble to hearts (from Livi) both 7 figure sum deals

£1m+ for Nouble would be hilarious.

ErinGoBraghHFC
17-08-2023, 12:27 PM
Sandy Clark. Jimmy Bone. Even back in the 50s their terrible trio had a tactic called the "battering ram".

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Can’t be entertaining surely, I’d see the point if they were any more consistently successful than us having forwards like that but they’re not.


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Brummie_Hibs
17-08-2023, 12:30 PM
Hearing a fair bit of rumour Shankland to Saudi
He'll spend a huge chunk of that wage on sunblock for that heid!

MWHIBBIES
17-08-2023, 12:56 PM
Hearing a fair bit of rumour Shankland to Saudi (from hearts), Nouble to hearts (from Livi) both 7 figure sum dealsNo chance anyone anywhere is offering a million for nouble.

JimBHibees
17-08-2023, 01:05 PM
No chance anyone anywhere is offering a million for nouble.

Wouldn't have thought so either

Billy Whizz
17-08-2023, 01:19 PM
No chance anyone anywhere is offering a million for nouble.

Maybe it was in Roubles

NAE NOOKIE
17-08-2023, 01:32 PM
No chance anyone anywhere is offering a million for nouble.Agreed, but Livvi are skint and with the window only having less than 2 weeks left you could imagine them accepting 300K for him. As another poster alluded to, this guy has Hearts written all over him.

cabbageandribs1875
17-08-2023, 01:37 PM
i'd love Nouble at us, but not for £1m

NAE NOOKIE
17-08-2023, 01:40 PM
Anyway ... a million pages later we still need a left back, a nasty but technically proficient defensive midfield player only a mother ( and us ) could love, and maybe a winger, oh and a big forward who can hold the ball up and win headers, especially if we are going to play hoofball.

Joe6-2
17-08-2023, 02:19 PM
Anyway ... a million pages later we still need a left back, a nasty but technically proficient defensive midfield player only a mother ( and us ) could love, and maybe a winger, oh and a big forward who can hold the ball up and win headers, especially if we are going to play hoofball.

A million pages after the last million pages

cabbageandribs1875
17-08-2023, 05:12 PM
Man U have signed Darren Fletcher's twin 16 year old sons, from Man City

Dmas
17-08-2023, 05:26 PM
Man U have signed Darren Fletcher's twin 16 year old sons, from Man City

Saw Man City had signed a 14yr old Scottish lad for a million today comes from Livingston no idea what teams he’s been at before.

BoomtownHibees
17-08-2023, 05:31 PM
Saw Man City had signed a 14yr old Scottish lad for a million today comes from Livingston no idea what teams he’s been at before.

His Dad was at Hibs

Tambo
17-08-2023, 07:38 PM
Another 45 minutes and shows you why we needed an upgrade on both Jeggo and Campbell before we started the season.

MrRobot
17-08-2023, 07:45 PM
Another 45 minutes and shows you why we needed an upgrade on both Jeggo and Campbell before we started the season.

Jeggo isn’t playing?

Tambo
17-08-2023, 07:47 PM
Jeggo isn’t playing?

I know, we signed levitt instead.

Ronniekirk
17-08-2023, 08:03 PM
I know, we signed levitt instead.Out injured tonight Ffs Sounds like he could be out for a while

Dazzjw1875
17-08-2023, 10:02 PM
Out injured tonight Ffs Sounds like he could be out for a whileWe're due a bumper payday with the Villa tie, really hope we get another couple in over the next week, will 100% need another creative player in Midfield especally as Levitt will be out for 6 month minimum and a LB

Callum_62
17-08-2023, 10:04 PM
We're due a bumper payday with the Villa tie, really hope we get another couple in over the next week, will 100% need another creative player in Midfield especally as Levitt will be out for 6 month minimum and a LB6 months minimum?



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JohnM1875
17-08-2023, 10:05 PM
We're due a bumper payday with the Villa tie, really hope we get another couple in over the next week, will 100% need another creative player in Midfield especally as Levitt will be out for 6 month minimum and a LBAll it'll really be money wise, directly from the game, is a sold out ER right? Similar to an Edinburgh derby or OF game. Maybe some extra money for TV? Absolutely buzzing for it though.

JimBHibees
17-08-2023, 10:06 PM
Out injured tonight Ffs Sounds like he could be out for a while

Would think 8 weeks max

SaulGoodman
17-08-2023, 10:06 PM
All it'll really be money wise, directly from the game, is a sold out ER right? Similar to an Edinburgh derby or OF game. Maybe some extra money for TV? Absolutely buzzing for it though.

Do we not get 750k for reaching playoffs too?

jws1875
17-08-2023, 10:08 PM
Do we not get 750k for reaching playoffs too?

Yeah guarenteed 750k in prize money. Extra 3mil if we make the groups..

JohnM1875
17-08-2023, 10:08 PM
Do we not get 750k for reaching playoffs too?Aw aye, for sure. But that's not a result of playing Villa, maybe I read the post wrong. Would have got that regardless if who we were playing

007
17-08-2023, 10:08 PM
We're due a bumper payday with the Villa tie, really hope we get another couple in over the next week, will 100% need another creative player in Midfield especally as Levitt will be out for 6 month minimum and a LB

If we somehow get past Villa we'll have 24 hours to strengthen the squad, before the transfer window shuts, ready for the group stages . 😮

cabbageandribs1875
17-08-2023, 10:10 PM
i think prize money so far is approx £470k, that's going by last seasons figures so obviously a little more this season

cabbageandribs1875
17-08-2023, 10:13 PM
actually recalculating £767k, last season it was 350,000 Euros for 2nd QR and £ 550,000 euros for 3rd QR

Vault Boy
17-08-2023, 10:16 PM
actually recalculating £767k, last season it was 350,000 Euros for 2nd QR and £ 550,000 euros for 3rd QR

So getting through basically doubles our total, that’s huge when you consider how much travel and accommodation will have eaten into the earnings so far.

Premier Inn in Brum can’t be too spenny. :greengrin

JeMeSouviens
17-08-2023, 10:25 PM
actually recalculating £767k, last season it was 350,000 Euros for 2nd QR and £ 550,000 euros for 3rd QR

You don’t add them up. It was 350 if you lost in round 2, 550 if you lost in round 3, 750 in the playoff. But there was also a €100K fee per round you played in. So on last year’s numbers we’d get €1.05M if we get beat by Villa. Plus a full house at ER and home leg tv rights.

MrRobot
17-08-2023, 10:27 PM
I know, we signed levitt instead.

aw i get you hahah

K-Zazu
17-08-2023, 10:54 PM
Yeah guarenteed 750k in prize money. Extra 3mil if we make the groups..

Don’t we get it at the end of the season? Could be wrong tho

Rumble de Thump
18-08-2023, 05:47 AM
First qualifying round elimination: €150,000.
Second qualifying round elimination: €350,000.
Third qualifying round elimination: €550,000.
Play-off round elimination: €750,000.
Qualified to Group Stage: €2,940,000.
Match won in Group Stage: €500,000.
Match drawn in Group Stage: €166,000.
1st in Group Stage: €650,000.
2nd in Group Stage: €325,000.
Knockout round play-offs: €300,000.
Round of 16: €600,000.
Quarter-final: €1,000,000.
Semi-final: €2,000,000.
Runner-up: €3,000,000.
Champion: €5,000,000.

chippy
18-08-2023, 08:50 AM
So we have grossed £637k (750e) plus home crowds 27k x £15 ave ticket = £405k. Total of £1,040,000. I don’t think there’s additional TV monies but not sure???
Add to that a 20,500 attendance on Weds Vs Villa should gross us around £600k. Again I don’t know if there are additional tv monies or is that where the prize monies come from? Sure we’ll have big expenses but grossing £1.6million so far is brilliant. Could it mean us able to buy a couple of players before Weds night ?

Edinburgh Green
18-08-2023, 09:06 AM
So we have grossed £637k (750e) plus home crowds 27k x £15 ave ticket = £405k. Total of £1,040,000. I don’t think there’s additional TV monies but not sure???
Add to that a 20,500 attendance on Weds Vs Villa should gross us around £600k. Again I don’t know if there are additional tv monies or is that where the prize monies come from? Sure we’ll have big expenses but grossing £1.6million so far is brilliant. Could it mean us able to buy a couple of players before Weds night ?

I'm pretty sure we would of already budgeted for getting through the Inter tie, so progressing against Luzern is only the added extra bonus.

04Sauzee
18-08-2023, 09:07 AM
Stephen Welsh signs a new 4 year deal with Celtic.

Callum_62
18-08-2023, 09:11 AM
Wouldn't be entirely surprised to see us move for McGrath

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Bridge hibs
18-08-2023, 09:18 AM
Stephen Welsh signs a new 4 year deal with Celtic.

Wow, I thought he was way down the pecking order, would have liked him at Easter Road

Bridge hibs
18-08-2023, 09:20 AM
Wouldn't be entirely surprised to see us move for McGrath

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Has he even been training with anyone since his Wigan release ?

Fergus52
18-08-2023, 09:21 AM
Wow, I thought he was way down the pecking order, would have liked him at Easter RoadThey're really struggling with the homegrown quota for Europe

Bridge hibs
18-08-2023, 09:22 AM
They're really struggling with the homegrown quota for Europe

Oh yeah forgot about that

Since452
18-08-2023, 09:26 AM
Wouldn't be entirely surprised to see us move for McGrath Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using TapatalkIf Levitt is out long term i think we might.

Smartie
18-08-2023, 09:35 AM
Wouldn't be entirely surprised to see us move for McGrath

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Another midfielder is now "no brainer" territory after Levitt's injury. That looked like the type that will take at least a couple of months to come back from.

Is we ended up toiling to bring anyone else in, I wonder if we might recall Aiken from Airdrie?

Hibby Kay-Yay
18-08-2023, 10:32 AM
Midfielder and a LB for me.

SHODAN
18-08-2023, 10:35 AM
If Levitt is out long term i think we might.

Also wouldn't be surprised if we went for him now.

Gmack7
18-08-2023, 10:36 AM
Midfielder and a LB for me.

Without question these positions need strengthening, particularly as LJ doesn't seem to see Obita as an option at LB

Smartie
18-08-2023, 10:39 AM
Without question these positions need strengthening, particularly as LJ doesn't seem to see Obita as an option at LB

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see Lewis move to CM and for Obita to play LB if we don't bring in a midfielder.

chippy
18-08-2023, 10:44 AM
McGrath would be free transfer but surely a 400k offer for O’Hara would be a smart move? Would we get him for say 500-600k?

Dazzjw1875
18-08-2023, 10:45 AM
I think we should make a quick move for McGrath he's a free agent and will slot in perfectly to replace Levitt, not sure when he would need to be registered though? But I'm sure Hibs will be quietly working on something signing else in the background be very surprised if not.

neil7908
18-08-2023, 10:57 AM
McGrath would be free transfer but surely a 400k offer for O’Hara would be a smart move? Would we get him for say 500-600k?

I'm guessing we've spent our budget this year given the signings made.

Just have to hope the Doig deal goes through and we can offload some of the deadwood.

He would be a class signing though.

Winston Ingram
18-08-2023, 10:58 AM
We need wide forwards. We can cover Levitts absence for 5-6 weeks.

CapitalGreen
18-08-2023, 11:08 AM
We need wide forwards. We can cover Levitts absence for 5-6 weeks.

We needed new central midfielders before Levitt’s injury.

Hibby Kay-Yay
18-08-2023, 11:11 AM
We need wide forwards. We can cover Levitts absence for 5-6 weeks.

He’ll be out for longer than that I think.

Hibernian Verse
18-08-2023, 11:13 AM
McGrath would be free transfer but surely a 400k offer for O’Hara would be a smart move? Would we get him for say 500-600k?

O'Hara will go for over a million.

Real Emerald
18-08-2023, 11:14 AM
I wouldn't be all that surprised to see Lewis move to CM and for Obita to play LB if we don't bring in a midfielder.

You’re maybe not wrong but it’s such a backwards step to be doing that. We need to address these issues properly.

CapitalGreen
18-08-2023, 11:18 AM
O'Hara will go for over a million.

To who? I’m not sure there will be much interest down south after his less than successful stint in League One and League Two. The only real exit ops for him are Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen and none of us are paying close to £1m for him. If St Mirren want to cash in they’ll have to accept a lot less than that.

cabbageandribs1875
18-08-2023, 11:28 AM
So getting through basically doubles our total, that’s huge when you consider how much travel and accommodation will have eaten into the earnings so far.Premier Inn in Brum can’t be too spenny. :greengrinchartering a plane will cost a fair whack one would presume :agree:
You don’t add them up. It was 350 if you lost in round 2, 550 if you lost in round 3, 750 in the playoff. But there was also a €100K fee per round you played in. So on last year’s numbers we’d get €1.05M if we get beat by Villa. Plus a full house at ER and home leg tv rights.ah, i get it now thanks, do you know what this 100k fee is for :confused:

Hibs4185
18-08-2023, 11:30 AM
Fine up front.

Midfield is the key to a good season.

Don’t fancy McGrath but if he was free and decent wages it wouid make sense after Levitt’s injury.

bingo70
18-08-2023, 11:31 AM
You don’t add them up. It was 350 if you lost in round 2, 550 if you lost in round 3, 750 in the playoff. But there was also a €100K fee per round you played in. So on last year’s numbers we’d get €1.05M if we get beat by Villa. Plus a full house at ER and home leg tv rights.

Are the gate receipts shared? Would be great if we got half the money from the Villa crowd.

easty
18-08-2023, 11:33 AM
Fine up front.

Midfield is the key to a good season.

Don’t fancy McGrath but if he was free and decent wages it wouid make sense after Levitt’s injury.

McGrath is a completely different player to Levitt

Dmas
18-08-2023, 11:44 AM
I'm guessing we've spent our budget this year given the signings made.

Just have to hope the Doig deal goes through and we can offload some of the deadwood.

He would be a class signing though.

Hopeless at motherwell though, he has been really good for St.Mirren no doubt about it I’d be worried about spending serious cash on him though

GST1875
18-08-2023, 11:51 AM
Prior to Levitt getting injured I'd have said we needed

A LB - either FB really but Lewis really can't be the starter any longer, been good in the European games but slack in the league. I know the "LS has seen off another new lb" thing has become a meme at this point, but prior to his personal problems I think Cibraja showed us what we were missing in that position last year. Means Obita can concentrate on being cover/an option on the LW.

A CM to play in the double pivot with Newall. I've heard a lot about us needing a DM but we have that in Jeggo. For me a good team in this league needs 2 or 3 midfielders who will dominate that area - yes guys who can win the ball but who can also drive the team forward or pick a pass. Think McGeough and McGinn or the Devlin/Beni combo hearts had, or even Ali McCann and Craig Bryson in that great St.J side. At the moment we have Newall and in JDH a much worse option. Either of the lads at St Mirren would be guys I'd love to see come in. You then build the rest of your midfield with specialists for individual games - a DM (Jeggo), a ball crashing AM (Campbell) and one or two wee ballers.

Even with Obita being more of a wing option, I'd still like more cover for the wide forwards. Maybe someone who could combine playing in that position with a more central midfield cover for Levitt as well. Seen McGrath mentioned but someone like Scott Wright would be perfect imo.

So that'd be 3 for me - CBs have looked very ropey so far but I think we have 3 who've shown they CAN be excellent at this level in the past and we have to see if they can play/be organised out of poor form.

The players I mentioned aren't necessarily guys I think we could bring in/afford, but I think it's all pretty academic at the moment anyway as I don't think it's likely we have much budget left for now.

K-Zazu
18-08-2023, 11:56 AM
We desperately need another LB

jeffers
18-08-2023, 11:59 AM
We desperately need another LB

Obita was signed as our first choice left back. Why we haven’t actually started him in that position I don’t know.

Joe6-2
18-08-2023, 12:01 PM
We desperately need another LB

I really, really hope we are still looking to strengthen

BigKev
18-08-2023, 12:05 PM
O'Hara will go for over a million.

He’s out for a month and out of contract at the end of the season. Saints would be lucky to get £250k for him.

04Sauzee
18-08-2023, 12:12 PM
He’s out for a month and out of contract at the end of the season. Saints would be lucky to get £250k for him.

Contracted until the summer of 2026, won't be going anywhere for £250k

K-Zazu
18-08-2023, 12:19 PM
Obita was signed as our first choice left back. Why we haven’t actually started him in that position I don’t know.

Think he’s more suited to LW/WB don’t think he’s played left back for a few years could be wrong though.

Centre Hawf
18-08-2023, 12:23 PM
I actually think we're fine in midfield still with Levitt out, you can't go signing someone for money at the first hopefully small to mid term length injury as we're just going to end up in a situation when everyone is fit with excess budget sitting on the bench. Unless we moved on a JDH or Delferriere I don't really see us going out for anyone. I think our priorities now is perhaps someone who can play both sides of full back (maybe a loan from an academy down south?)A wide player would be good to pick up to rotate with Elie and Boyle but we also still have Jair to get rid of that I'm sure will be hampering our ability to do any business there. That being said it makes you wonder why Mackay was allowed to out but if LJ isn't having him then fair enough. All in all I'm still happy with the way the squad is shaping up, we were never going to be the finished product in one window with McDermott at the helm, it was as much about clearing out some deadweight as it was bringing in impactful players and I think that process is underway. We just need to give us that little bit extra to get us through to January to revisit the window again.

theonlywayisup
18-08-2023, 12:27 PM
We needed new central midfielders before Levitt’s injury.Fully agree. I'd like to see a couple of central midfielders coming in - one goal threat and one Graeme Shinnie type.After that cover at both full back positions. Actually think we're well covered in the forward positions. Get the right midfielders in and they can unlock our forwards to cause damage.

The Modfather
18-08-2023, 12:37 PM
I actually think we're fine in midfield still with Levitt out, you can't go signing someone for money at the first hopefully small to mid term length injury as we're just going to end up in a situation when everyone is fit with excess budget sitting on the bench. Unless we moved on a JDH or Delferriere I don't really see us going out for anyone. I think our priorities now is perhaps someone who can play both sides of full back (maybe a loan from an academy down south?)A wide player would be good to pick up to rotate with Elie and Boyle but we also still have Jair to get rid of that I'm sure will be hampering our ability to do any business there. That being said it makes you wonder why Mackay was allowed to out but if LJ isn't having him then fair enough. All in all I'm still happy with the way the squad is shaping up, we were never going to be the finished product in one window with McDermott at the helm, it was as much about clearing out some deadweight as it was bringing in impactful players and I think that process is underway. We just need to give us that little bit extra to get us through to January to revisit the window again.

Midfield is fine numbers wise, but quality and balance wise still a major issue IMO. All we have between playing the dreaded JDH, Newell & Campbell midfield is Jeggo.

BSEJVT
18-08-2023, 01:12 PM
As much as I would like a creative midfielder, I would probably rather have one or two midfielders capable of winning the ball and more importantly passing it to a Hibs player regularly.

The defence are often rightly criticised for individual errors but they are under pressure for the entire game as we cannot retain the ball in midfield and seem to have given up trying to do so as we don't have the players for it.

It stands to reason that the more pressure the defence is under the more errors it makes and I would try and address that fact and stopping crosses coming into the box before I did anything else and that includes getting defensive reinforcements.

There's not a defender in the world capable of stopping us conceding goals the amount of pressure we invite onto ourselves IMO.

Centre Hawf
18-08-2023, 01:19 PM
Midfield is fine numbers wise, but quality and balance wise still a major issue IMO. All we have between playing the dreaded JDH, Newell & Campbell midfield is Jeggo.I don't disagree that the balance maybe isn't there. But we still have someone like Henderson to ship out as well. We'll be desperately trying to usher some folk out behind the scenes I think so that we can get fresh faces in. Until that happens I think we need to look at other areas that aren't stacked with depth.

scoopyboy
18-08-2023, 01:20 PM
Obita was signed as our first choice left back. Why we haven’t actually started him in that position I don’t know.

I thought he was more of a signing that could cover a few positions on the LHS of the park

eastmainsmsh
18-08-2023, 02:59 PM
I may get pelters for this but young Mackie was doing well often wonder of he couldve established himself by now

SHODAN
18-08-2023, 03:06 PM
I may get pelters for this but young Mackie was doing well often wonder of he couldve established himself by now

Plays for Falkirk now.

Onceinawhile
18-08-2023, 03:11 PM
I may get pelters for this but young Mackie was doing well often wonder of he couldve established himself by now

Was he?

Way i remember it, he was constantly injured.

Brightside
18-08-2023, 03:19 PM
We need wide forwards. We can cover Levitts absence for 5-6 weeks.

No chance he will be 5-6 weeks

scoopyboy
18-08-2023, 03:25 PM
No chance he will be 5-6 weeks

You can't possibly know that, the nature of his injury hasn't even been established yet?

Brightside
18-08-2023, 03:27 PM
You can't possibly know that, the nature of his injury hasn't even been established yet?

Just based on what a player mentioned this morning. As you say no way of knowing but it looks bad.

scoopyboy
18-08-2023, 03:28 PM
Just based on what a player mentioned this morning. As you say no way of knowing but it looks bad.

Certainly doesn't look good, we can only hope.

scoopyboy
18-08-2023, 03:32 PM
Was he?

Way i remember it, he was constantly injured.

Fair comment.

I play bowls with him and he's been really unlucky with injuries.

He's recently done his hamstring at Falkirk and that's another 8 to 10 weeks out

itslegaltender
18-08-2023, 03:42 PM
saw this on the Beeb Scottish gossip site. Manchester City have paid Leicester City £1m for Scottish-born 14-year-old Tyrese Noubissie, whose French dad Patrick had spells with Hibs, Livingston and Dundee. (Scottish Sun)

easty
18-08-2023, 03:47 PM
I may get pelters for this but young Mackie was doing well often wonder of he couldve established himself by now

He did well in about 1 game.

He’s found his level.

Tambo
18-08-2023, 04:03 PM
On the central midfield talk, I wonder if McAllister will be involved as cover for Levitt with JDH Newell Campbell being the preferred first choice.

scoopyboy
18-08-2023, 04:06 PM
He did well in about 1 game.

He’s found his level.

He did well for us in a lot more than one game.

Off the top of my head he played well in a 2-0 win over Celtic and had a glorious assist for Kamberi to score the second.

Put in a peach of a cross at Ibrox for Darren McGregor to gain a point with a header in a 1-1 draw.

Played well at home to Celtic in a 2-2 draw and very nearly got a winner in added time.

So there’s three games against the old firm in which we won one and drew two.

Injuries cost him and sadly it could well be he’s found his level

MagicSwirlingShip
18-08-2023, 06:34 PM
He did well for us in a lot more than one game.

Off the top of my head he played well in a 2-0 win over Celtic and had a glorious assist for Kamberi to score the second.

Put in a peach of a cross at Ibrox for Darren McGregor to gain a point with a header in a 1-1 draw.

Played well at home to Celtic in a 2-2 draw and very nearly got a winner in added time.

So there’s three games against the old firm in which we won one and drew two.

Injuries cost him and sadly it could well be he’s found his level

Always liked Mackie, hope he continues to carve a career out of the game

EGL2000
18-08-2023, 07:37 PM
Villa sign Italian international zaniolo on loan with option to buy. A very talented player when he's on it.

McGruber
18-08-2023, 07:40 PM
Still think we will go back for Egan-Riley, must be about over the injury by now

berwickhibee
18-08-2023, 07:48 PM
We could do with 1 or 2 in the door, we look short in a few areas.

tonyrougier123
19-08-2023, 03:38 AM
Still badly need a solid cb, the defence still needs sorted.

Libby Hibby
19-08-2023, 06:14 AM
LB is a priority and another CM.

To use more cash to put against a quality CM, would it be that bad to promote Oscar McIntyre for LB duties? I’ve really liked the lad every time I’ve seen him.

theonlywayisup
19-08-2023, 07:02 AM
Rumoured in:N/ARumoured out:Ewan HendersonElias Melkersen (Stromsgodset)Jair TavaresDo we still not have any rumours of players in? Surely there must be some names in the frame.Above obviously needs updated as Melkersen is confirmed!

Brightside
19-08-2023, 08:15 AM
Still badly need a solid cb, the defence still needs sorted.

We’ve paid money for one and not played him so I can’t see us getting another one in.

Borderhibbie76
19-08-2023, 09:02 AM
Bit concerned at rumours of incomings have dried up but hopefully means we are working away in background - we need 3 or 4 bodies in before window closes, I think we need a RB,LB, CM and another forward who can play wide - we only have Miller and Lewy as fit and first choice full backs - unless we are going to go with youth we really need cover. Now Levitt is injured and JDH (again) we are really short in midfield too

GloryGlory
19-08-2023, 09:36 AM
Bit concerned at rumours of incomings have dried up but hopefully means we are working away in background - we need 3 or 4 bodies in before window closes, I think we need a RB,LB, CM and another forward who can play wide - we only have Miller and Lewy as fit and first choice full backs - unless we are going to go with youth we really need cover. Now Levitt is injured and JDH (again) we are really short in midfield too

I'm hoping Hibs were waiting for the result of the Luzern game and a bit more cash has been released into the transfer kitty as a result of the Villa tie, which should be a nice little earner.

brog
19-08-2023, 10:04 AM
Bit concerned at rumours of incomings have dried up but hopefully means we are working away in background - we need 3 or 4 bodies in before window closes, I think we need a RB,LB, CM and another forward who can play wide - we only have Miller and Lewy as fit and first choice full backs - unless we are going to go with youth we really need cover. Now Levitt is injured and JDH (again) we are really short in midfield too

Obita is a left back and Campbell could do a shift at right back. Personally for majority of league games I would play a back 3, Rocky/Miller, Fish, Hanlon/Harbottle. That allows us to have 2 wide players, any 2 from Martin, Ellie, Obita, 3 central midfielders and still have 2 up top. I agree we could do with 1 or 2 more but given we're without Cadden, McKirdy, Jojo and Levitt, the squad is still pretty strong if utilised correctly. My preferred line up would give us a bench of Rocky, Harbottle, Henderson, Doidge, Stevenson, Jeggo and Obita. That's strong and experienced without using any youngsters.

JammyDoidger
19-08-2023, 10:32 AM
I've a feeling we will get Lewis Fiorini, especially with Levitt's injury now.

JohnM1875
19-08-2023, 10:35 AM
I've a feeling we will get Lewis Fiorini, especially with Levitt's injury now.

Be really happy if we did. Fiorini and CJ back on loan and we'd have a good squad I reckon.

HendoDelivered
19-08-2023, 10:38 AM
I've a feeling we will get Lewis Fiorini, especially with Levitt's injury now.

Would be a top signing