Summer transfer thread 2023

[flash]

Any idea of the reason why he’d want to go?
PM me if you don’t want to put it on the board

None at all. My point was if there's a "strong, strong rumour" nobody seems to know about it.

[Billy Whizz]

None at all. My point was if there's a "strong, strong rumour" nobody seems to know about it.

Sorry got the wrong end of your sentence

[flash]

Sorry got the wrong end of your sentence

No worries I maybe didn't word it very well.

[JamesHFC]

On the Martin Boyle thread someone has posted that there have been 'strong, strong rumours Boyle was leaving'.

Like the LJ to Leeds rumour, complete nonsense.

[Smartie]

Any idea of the reason why he’d want to go?
PM me please if you don’t want to put it on the board

I hadn't heard about any links with a departure but I had heard that he was pretty unhappy about the state we were in back during that wobbly spell prior to the World Cup.

He wasn't alone, a few senior players and members of the coaching staff were questioning things and Johnson was toiling a bit for a while to win them over.

A few arrivals, a few departures, a spell of better form and I think as a squad they are in a much happier place now but I think it was pretty ropey for a while there.

[Donegal Hibby]

Like the LJ to Leeds rumour, complete nonsense.
Both me and Jeffers were extremely worried about that one tbh 😂

[JamesHFC]

Both me and Jeffers were extremely worried about that one tbh 😂

😂😂

[Bridge hibs]

There has been a few players mentioned. But debating a player we already have seems to have taken over. And it’s totally pointless as he’s not going anywhere. The guy has just buy a brand new house in Newcraighall. He will finish his career at Hibs.

To be fair mate you dont know that, earlier on in this thread you said we wouldnt sign a right or left back and a short time later we signed a left back. New house or not, if a bid comes in for him that tickles hibs nostrils then he will be gone, every player has his price and Newell is no different

[NAE NOOKIE]

I wonder if its possible for us to have one Transfer thread where actual transfer targets and speculation go, and another - maybe called, oh I dont know "Is Joe Newell any good?" - where people can debate how good Joe Newell is to their hearts content?

It may not be the most interesting idea I have ever had, but it would certainly save me opening up this thread and reading this utter drivel.

Nailed it :top marks

[jeffers]

Both me and Jeffers were extremely worried about that one tbh 😂

For entirely different reasons DH :greengrin

[Lago]

Any transfer chat that doesn't involve Joe Newell? Anything at all?
Sorry this the Joe Newell thread, one of many unfortunately.

[cameronw-hfc]

He missed 4 games through injury, not half a season.

He was carrying a knock for the last 6 months of the season, despite playing weekly almost.

[Brightside]

To be fair mate you dont know that, earlier on in this thread you said we wouldnt sign a right or left back and a short time later we signed a left back. New house or not, if a bid comes in for him that tickles hibs nostrils then he will be gone, every player has his price and Newell is no different

I said I didnt think we’d sign a LB. Clearly young Oscar isn’t going to get the game time that was suggested. For his sake I hope he goes out on loan. I just find the Newell chat really dull. There is nothing to suggest he’s moving on. We may as well have the same chat for every player in the squad.

[Dmas]

Sorry this the Joe Newell thread, one of many unfortunately.

Every year this thread gets these comments, nobody’s been linked since the last signing the latest rumour we have is a 600k bid for Newell, people are discussing the merits of selling Joe Newell…what do you suppose the thread is for if not discussion on players in and out?

If you have another rumour then posting about that may change the direction of conversation

[Paulie Walnuts]

Every year this thread gets these comments, nobody’s been linked since the last signing the latest rumour we have is a 600k bid for Newell, people are discussing the merits of selling Joe Newell…what do you suppose the thread is for if not discussion on players in and out?

If you have another rumour then posting about that may change the direction of conversation

Don’t be so stupid. This is the summer transfer thread and potential summer transfers simply cannot be discussed.

[Bridge hibs]

I said I didnt think we’d sign a LB. Clearly young Oscar isn’t going to get the game time that was suggested. For his sake I hope he goes out on loan. I just find the Newell chat really dull. There is nothing to suggest he’s moving on. We may as well have the same chat for every player in the squad.I agree mate and I just find the Newell chat is constantly on a loop, same old same old. However I still think if a suitable offer comes in then he would be off, thats regardless of new house or not. None of us know LJs budget but he may see good cash that could be spent on a replacement and more. Either way Im happy if he stays but wont be too disheartened if he was to go as I trust our recruitment team (said with a straight face) to get in a replacement

[NGoloGrantie]

Quite a few folk on twitter hinting that Will Fish is a done deal. Great news if true. Anyone else on here heard anything similar?


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[JimBHibees]

Quite a few folk on twitter hinting that Will Fish is a done deal. Great news if true. Anyone else on here heard anything similar?


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Yep apparently done as a loan.

[Donegal Hibby]

Yep apparently done as a loan.
Wonder if there's a option to buy ? Hope we are trying for Mykola also .

[04Sauzee]

Quite a few folk on twitter hinting that Will Fish is a done deal. Great news if true. Anyone else on here heard anything similar?


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Any idea who's hinting ? Had a quick look but can't see anything posted recently.
Would love to see him back at ER

[NGoloGrantie]

Any idea who's hinting ? Had a quick look but can't see anything posted recently.
Would love to see him back at ER

https://twitter.com/chriswood1875x/status/1673038868071739392?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

https://twitter.com/hibsloanwatch/status/1673036652585840642?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

Only seen these two tweet about it tbf. Supposedly the photo of the fish got posted on hibs’ instagram but was quickly deleted [emoji2369]


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[04Sauzee]

https://twitter.com/chriswood1875x/status/1673038868071739392?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

https://twitter.com/hibsloanwatch/status/1673036652585840642?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

Only seen these two tweet about it tbf. Supposedly the photo of the fish got posted on hibs’ instagram but was quickly deleted [emoji2369]


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Cheers 😁 didn't see them

[Unseen work]

Aberdeen want Rhys Williams from Liverpool.

22 year old centre back.

Would hope that would end any interest in fish.

[stokesmessiah]

Aberdeen want Rhys Williams from Liverpool.

22 year old centre back.

Would hope that would end any interest in fish.

Lots of talk that we have Fish done, so maybe a sign of them moving on…!?

[BILLYHIBS]

Gundogan leaves Man City and joins Barca on a free transfer

Live Sports

[Callum_62]

Are we expecting anyone in today? Be good to see a centre half and centre mid in ASAP

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[McGruber]

Are we expecting anyone in today? Be good to see a centre half and centre mid in ASAP

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We've been expecting Will Fish everyday for the past 3 weeks so same again today

[Dmas]

With fish seemingly done do we think we’ll still be after another CB maybe the guy from Carlisle?

[04Sauzee]

With fish seemingly done do we think we’ll still be after another CB maybe the guy from Carlisle?

I'd hope we are in for another CB, hoping there will be some movement on a central midfield player and a striker.

[Lendo]

With fish seemingly done do we think we’ll still be after another CB maybe the guy from Carlisle?

Who is the the guy from Carlisle?

[Bridge hibs]

Who is the the guy from Carlisle?

Morgan Feeney I think

[04Sauzee]

Who is the the guy from Carlisle?

We have been linked with Morgan Feeney

[Since452]

Gundogan leaves Man City and joins Barca on a free transfer

Live Sports

Terrific player. Surprised at that.

[SHODAN]

We only have Hanlon and Bushiri as it stands so I imagine at least one more CB will come in after Fish unless we want to promote someone from the dev squad.

[04Sauzee]

An update on all transfers for Scottish teams

https://nareystoepoker.blogspot.com/p/all-spfl-transfers-summer-2023-window.html?m=1#PREMIERSHIP

[Onceinawhile]

Terrific player. Surprised at that.

Really?

Barca won their league and they are a much, much bigger club than city

He’s just won the treble as well, he’s got nothing to prove. He’s now on a nicer city at a bigger club.

No brainer imo

[SHODAN]

Really?

Barca won their league and they are a much, much bigger club than city

He’s just won the treble as well, he’s got nothing to prove. He’s now on a nicer city at a bigger club.

No brainer imo

Barca have no money.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Really?

Barca won their league and they are a much, much bigger club than city

He’s just won the treble as well, he’s got nothing to prove. He’s now on a nicer city at a bigger club.

No brainer imo

But does Barcelona have a Co-Op high school?

[Onceinawhile]

Barca have no money.

They have no money compared to city. He’ll still get paid about 100k a week.

He’s not going to be destitute

[04Sauzee]

A Scottish club supposedly looking at Tom McIntyre of Reading. Think he's a LCB but doubt Hibs could afford him , wonder who the Scottish club may be.

If there are championship clubs in the hunt I'd assume he'd go there.

'Reading are facing a fight to keep Tom McIntyre who is on the radar of two Championship clubs and a Scottish club. No bid placed yet' [@DarrenOWitcoop] #readingfc

[Fergus52]

A Scottish club supposedly looking at Tom McIntyre of Reading. Think he's a LCB but doubt Hibs could afford him , wonder who the Scottish club may be.

If there are championship clubs in the hunt I'd assume he'd go there.

'Reading are facing a fight to keep Tom McIntyre who is on the radar of two Championship clubs and a Scottish club. No bid placed yet' [@DarrenOWitcoop] #readingfc

Had a quick look at his stats on footy man and looks like he's pretty decent on the ball, could be the long term Hanlon replacement if the Scottish club is us

[Paloschi]

Had a quick look at his stats on footy man and looks like he's pretty decent on the ball, could be the long term Hanlon replacement if the Scottish club is us

Tom McIntyre was a name I have heard recently. I think he worked with McDermott in some capacity at Reading but it was a name mentioned months ago.

We are still after Marlon Mustapha according to my source. Nothing more on the swiss left back, Behrami. Perhaps now Obita has signed.

[Paul1642]

Terrific player. Surprised at that.

Captaining city to the treble is the peak. Nothing left to achieve and can’t improve on that.

Help Barca with their revival and that’ll be another huge achievement at him and he would be a hero at both clubs.

[Paloschi]

Another name mentioned, Dimitri Oberlin, winger. Same club as Behrami and was loaned out at Thun for 22-23. Seems we are looking at this market after the success of Youan.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dimitri-oberlin/profil/spieler/212718

[Tyler Durden]

Had a quick look at his stats on footy man and looks like he's pretty decent on the ball, could be the long term Hanlon replacement if the Scottish club is us

More likely The Rangers I'd guess.

[Vault Boy]

Another name mentioned, Dimitri Oberlin, winger. Same club as Behrami and was loaned out at Thun for 22-23. Seems we are looking at this market after the success of Youan.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dimitri-oberlin/profil/spieler/212718

Was once quoted with interest from Man United, Juve, and Real Madrid. He must have come on a lot for Hibs to be in for him now, fair play to the guy.

[Hamish]

Tom McIntyre was a name I have heard recently. I think he worked with McDermott in some capacity at Reading but it was a name mentioned months ago.

We are still after Marlon Mustapha according to my source. Nothing more on the swiss left back, Behrami. Perhaps now Obita has signed.

McIntyre quoted as interesting 2 Championship clubs and a Scottish club on Twitter

[Donegal Hibby]

Another name mentioned, Dimitri Oberlin, winger. Same club as Behrami and was loaned out at Thun for 22-23. Seems we are looking at this market after the success of Youan.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dimitri-oberlin/profil/spieler/212718
Looks speedy in this .
https://youtu.be/nzxRy_e2gY0

[lyonhibs]

McIntyre quoted as interesting 2 Championship clubs and a Scottish club on Twitter

Based purely on his career in my FM Hibs save, I'd be surprised and delighted if it was us in for him 😅

Suspect wage demands would be too high

[LaMotta]

Hope we sign Tom McIntyre so we can bring back the classic Tommy McIntyre song from the 90's.

[badabing67]

Looks speedy in this .
https://youtu.be/nzxRy_e2gY0

He looks above our pay scale

[Bridge hibs]

Hope we sign Tom McIntyre so we can bring back the classic Tommy McIntyre song from the 90's.

I still picture that class penalty v Dunfermline in the 91 Skol cup final, coolness personified from a Centre Half

[Unseen work]

That Oberlin has quite an odd career to date, some decent clubs but never seems to have played or scored a huge amount

Looks like more of a Youan winger than a central striker

Out of contract next summer and valued at 200k on transfermarket

Would say he looks like someone we could get

[bingo70]

That Oberlin has quite an odd career to date, some decent clubs but never seems to have played or scored a huge amount

Looks like more of a Youan winger than a central striker

Out of contract next summer and valued at 200k on transfermarket

Would say he looks like someone we could get

I know we are well covered for wingers to start with Youann and Boyle, I think it’s an area we need a bit more depth though. I’m not sure what we would do if one of them got injured? Henderson, Mackay or Jair is it? I don’t think LJ would be happy with those options, especially with Boyles recent injury record.

[Donegal Hibby]

He looks above our pay scale
Transfermarket has him valued at 200k if that's anything to go by . Even a loan deal would be good . Last year we didn't have anyone that could come off the bench and make a impact . We have Le fondre now though could do with another couple of options I think.

[badabing67]

200K looks under valued to me, hope we can get him if he is available to us

[Fergus52]

I know we are well covered for wingers to start with Youann and Boyle, I think it’s an area we need a bit more depth though. I’m not sure what we would do if one of them got injured? Henderson, Mackay or Jair is it? I don’t think LJ would be happy with those options, especially with Boyles recent injury record.

McKirdy as well

[ChilliEater]

200K looks under valued to me, hope we can get him if he is available to us

I thought his highlights just showed him repeatedly losing possession interspersed with a couple of decent goal :dunno:

[Groathillgrump]

I still picture that class penalty v Dunfermline in the 91 Skol cup final, coolness personified from a Centre Half

Me too. He won me the sweep on the supporters bus with that penalty. :greengrin

A great day all round.

[Lago]

I thought his highlights just showed him repeatedly losing possession interspersed with a couple of decent goal :dunno:
Agree, not overly impressed

[Vault Boy]

Oberlin looks good to me. Hope there’s something in it.

[badabing67]

I thought his highlights just showed him repeatedly losing possession interspersed with a couple of decent goal :dunno:

That reel was posted in 2018 5 years ago if he has not improved since then i see your point

[Bridge hibs]

Oberlin looks good to me. Hope there’s something in it.Whats his actual position as I see left and right wings and centre forward ? If signed I would assume him to be a starter, so Boyle on right, youan on left + forward = Him ?

[Donegal Hibby]

Oberlin looks good to me. Hope there’s something in it.
Agree , looks to be a player that's quick and tricky, could be a good option for us from the bench.

[JohnM1875]

Whats his actual position as I see left and right wings and centre forward ? If signed I would assume him to be a starter, so Boyle on right, youan on left + forward = Him ?

Hope not going by his goal scoring record to date. 35 goals in 161 appearances.

If we do sign him though it would make sense. Sure LJ has said he wants a fluid front three. All three of Boyle, Youan and Oberlin can play out wide or through the middle.

[Bridge hibs]

Hope not going by his goal scoring record to date. 35 goals in 161 appearances.

If we do sign him though it would make sense. Sure LJ has said he wants a fluid front three. All three of Boyle, Youan and Oberlin can play out wide or through the middle.
Yeah not so good a goalscoring record, if he is on our radar then I would assume Mackay will be moved on, probably to Inverness again

[Donegal Hibby]

Demitri Oberlin seems to been at a fair few clubs . He's described as a CF though most of the stuff I've watched of him he's either playing on the left or right .
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitri_Oberlin

[King Cosell]

Hope not going by his goal scoring record to date. 35 goals in 161 appearances.

If we do sign him though it would make sense. Sure LJ has said he wants a fluid front three. All three of Boyle, Youan and Oberlin can play out wide or through the middle.

Peter Beardsley scored 9 in 59 for England.

[Bridge hibs]

Peter Beardsley scored 9 in 59 for England.Not sure what relevance international football has but all in not too shabby 799 games and 238 goals in all competitions

[J-C]

Oberlin has been on loan a hell of a lot since 2014, it honestly leaves question marks for me especially as he'll be coming up for 26 in Sept.

[Not In The Know]

I thought his highlights just showed him repeatedly losing possession interspersed with a couple of decent goal :dunno:


I gave up! He lost nearly every ball in the first couple mins.

[Bridge hibs]

Oberlin has been on loan a hell of a lot since 2014, it honestly leaves question marks for me especially as he'll be coming up for 26 in Sept.Dare I say it, back up for Boyle, when he got injured we struggled on the right, this guy if we get him cheap enough could fill either flank

[badabing67]

Looks like Aberdeen signing Shinnie

Graeme Shinnie to Aberdeen transfer 'could be done' TODAY as contract details emerge - Aberdeen Live (https://www.aberdeenlive.news/sport/football/graeme-shinnie-aberdeen-transfer-could-8551555)

[Torto7]

I don't know why anyone is bothered about Fish going to the sheep. If he comes back to Scotland he isn't picking them over us.

[J-C]

Dare I say it, back up for Boyle, when he got injured we struggled on the right, this guy if we get him cheap enough could fill either flank

If it's purely squad depth then fair enough, he's got enough experience at 161 games and 35 goals, so he's not a rookie.

[Bridge hibs]

If it's purely squad depth then fair enough, he's got enough experience at 161 games and 35 goals, so he's not a rookie.

Agree JC and squad depth which we lacked last season, also competition for places

[Torto7]

That Oberlin looks rapid. Even quicker than Boyle and Elie.

[Ronniekirk]

That Oberlin looks rapid. Even quicker than Boyle and Elie.
But it’s what he does with the ball that counts

[Donegal Hibby]

That Oberlin looks rapid. Even quicker than Boyle and Elie.
Think he just might be . Worth sticking with this btw .
https://youtu.be/Uy2D0i7I0Hk

[Paulie Walnuts]

Looks like Aberdeen signing Shinnie

Graeme Shinnie to Aberdeen transfer 'could be done' TODAY as contract details emerge - Aberdeen Live (https://www.aberdeenlive.news/sport/football/graeme-shinnie-aberdeen-transfer-could-8551555)

How was Shinnie for them?

Don’t remember seeing all that much about him other than his red card?

[Libby Hibby]

How was Shinnie for them?

Don’t remember seeing all that much about him other than his red card?

Probably the catalyst for their good run to be fair. Always committed and his energy and drive is something that money sometimes can’t buy.

[Bridge hibs]

Probably the catalyst for their good run to be fair. Always committed and his energy and drive is something that money sometimes can’t buy.Was he not suspended for most of their last few games ?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Probably the catalyst for their good run to be fair. Always committed and his energy and drive is something that money sometimes can’t buy.

Worth its weight in gold, especially in our league. :agree:

[Bostonhibby]

But it’s what he does with the ball that countsAlan O'Brien on a motor bike.[emoji6]

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[Torto7]

Alan O'Brien on a motor bike.[emoji6]

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I witnessed Alan get out of his motor one time at Tesco Eskbank, proceed to run over, tripped up on one of the trolleys and knocked a womens shopping out of her basket. It seemed to be a bit of a metaphor for his Hibs career.

[h185forever]

I witnessed Alan get out of his motor one time at Tesco Eskbank, proceed to run over, tripped up on one of the trolleys and knocked a womens shopping out of her basket. It seemed to be a bit of a metaphor for his Hibs career.

And before the shopping hit the deck… Willie Collum had his yellow card out

[brog]

Was he not suspended for most of their last few games ?

He only played jn last 2 top 6 games. Lost 5 0 to Celtc and beat St M 3 0, he scored 2. He was quiet on his return to Sheep but helped them win some tight games, Ross C for example before he started on his red card rampage!

[Hibiza]

I witnessed Alan get out of his motor one time at Tesco Eskbank, proceed to run over, tripped up on one of the trolleys and knocked a womens shopping out of her basket. It seemed to be a bit of a metaphor for his Hibs career.

😂😂😂

[CentreForward]

And before the shopping hit the deck… Willie Collum had his yellow card out



Brilliant :thumbsup:

[Bostonhibby]

I witnessed Alan get out of his motor one time at Tesco Eskbank, proceed to run over, tripped up on one of the trolleys and knocked a womens shopping out of her basket. It seemed to be a bit of a metaphor for his Hibs career.To be fair I don't think he expected to be up against one of the finest supermarket trolleys in Scotland so early in his career

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[04Sauzee]

Lyndon Dykes signs a new deal with QPR.
I believe Millwall had been sniffing about

[Bridge hibs]

Lyndon Dykes signs a new deal with QPR.
I believe Millwall had been sniffing about

Good thats another fairytale signing consigned to the bin, until next yearr

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Lyndon Dykes signs a new deal with QPR.
I believe Millwall had been sniffing about

This time next year Rodney…

[AllyT]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/hibs-transfer-latest-second-goalkeeper-added-as-lee-johnson-s-squad-takes-shape/ar-AA1d4gDF?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f1e1a41eb482497d9f7bf1bf69917ff6&ei=5

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/hibs-transfer-latest-second-goalkeeper-added-as-lee-johnson-s-squad-takes-shape/ar-AA1d4gDF?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f1e1a41eb482497d9f7bf1bf69917ff6&ei=5

Welcome Boric.

[Bridge hibs]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/hibs-transfer-latest-second-goalkeeper-added-as-lee-johnson-s-squad-takes-shape/ar-AA1d4gDF?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f1e1a41eb482497d9f7bf1bf69917ff6&ei=5

Cant understand this one, we have just signed a back up or replacement for Marshall and we have the highly rated Johnston going on loan, where does Boruc fit in ?

Edit- story explains it

Hibs meet the three goalies requirement for European games

[JohnM1875]

Cant understand this one, we have just signed a back up or replacement for Marshall and we have the highly rated Johnston going on loan, where does Boruc fit in ?

Article said we need to have three keepers for European football, must be a Uefa requirement. With Johnston away on loan all next season it starts to make sense.

Marshall's last season as well, so next season we'll have Wollacott, Boruc and Johnston as the three

[Unseen work]

Cant understand this one, we have just signed a back up or replacement for Marshall and we have the highly rated Johnston going on loan, where does Boruc fit in ?

Edit- story explains it

Hibs meet the three goalies requirement for European games



3rd choice/development keeper to allow Johnson to go on loan and get games

[HoboHarry]

Cant understand this one, we have just signed a back up or replacement for Marshall and we have the highly rated Johnston going on loan, where does Boruc fit in ?

Edit- story explains it

Hibs meet the three goalies requirement for European games
The article states we need three keepers for playing in Europe.

[Hibbyradge]

Lyndon Dykes signs a new deal with QPR.
I believe Millwall had been sniffing about

So we must just be getting him on loan.

[Bridge hibs]

The article states we need three keepers for playing in Europe.
Yeah I edited my post, couldnt read full article originally

[Since452]

Hmm. Could we not just take a leaf out of the big teams book and call one of the catering staff 'director of goalkeeping' or something and register him as a player? Save a bit of coin?

[JohnM1875]

So what do folk think we need now after Boruc and Fish apparently being agreed.

Think we're still a RB (probably a loan), CM (attacking) and main striker short. Even if the Oberlin rumours are true, I'd still want a main striker as well as him.

[ElginHibbie]

Boruc being announced with 0 fanfare the poor lad!

2 year contract

[CallumLaidlaw]

Boruc being announced with 0 fanfare the poor lad!

2 year contract

Not a bad thing. He’s clearly a development signing. Maybe we’re learning from past announcements.


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[Unseen work]

So what do folk think we need now after Boruc and Fish apparently being agreed.

Think we're still a RB (probably a loan), CM (attacking) and main striker short. Even if the Oberlin rumours are true, I'd still want a main striker as well as him.

If Fish has agreed to join then that’s brilliant, but we still need quite a bit done imo.

CB
CM x 2 (attacking and defending)
Winger
Striker

Rocky is injury prone and Hanlon is getting on
CM’s to improve and come in as starters alongside Newell
Winger to compete with Youan and Boyle.
ST is hard to say without seeing ALF but 1 minimum, I’d be inclined to say 2 if we can get bodies out

Can see any of the following leave

Henderson
Kenneh
Tait
Delferriere
Mackay
Tavares
Doidge
Hauge
Melkersen

[JohnM1875]

If Fish has agreed to join then that’s brilliant, but we still need quite a bit done imo.

CB
CM x 2 (attacking and defending)
Winger
Striker

Rocky is injury prone and Hanlon is getting on
CM’s to improve and come in as starters alongside Newell
Winger to compete with Youan and Boyle.
ST is hard to say without seeing ALF but 1 minimum, I’d be inclined to say 2 if we can get bodies out

Can see any of the following leave

Henderson
Kenneh
Tait
Delferriere
Mackay
Tavares
Doidge
Hauge
Melkersen

Probably agree with two CM's actually. I actually think Jeggo is fine, but wouldn't complain about competition/an upgrade. Hopefully the Terry Taylor rumours are true.

[04Sauzee]

Boruc being announced with 0 fanfare the poor lad!

2 year contract

📝 We are delighted to announce the signing of young goalkeeper Maksymilian Boruc

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/maksymilian-boruc-becomes-a-hibee

[04Sauzee]

Livingston FC is delighted to announce the*signing of 24-year-old Liberian international, Mo Sangare.

Welcome to Livingston, Mo Sangare!

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[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Lyndon Dykes signs a new deal with QPR.
I believe Millwall had been sniffing about

Boooooooooo


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[Aldo]

So what do folk think we need now after Boruc and Fish apparently being agreed.

Think we're still a RB (probably a loan), CM (attacking) and main striker short. Even if the Oberlin rumours are true, I'd still want a main striker as well as him.

I would agree about a striker and I’m sure Paloschi mentioned we are still perusing Mustapha.

I’d like a proper no10. Someone who will actually get the ball and create, also with the ability to get beyond the strikers. Fiorini might fit that bill??

[JohnM1875]

I would agree about a striker and I’m sure Paloschi mentioned we are still perusing Mustapha.

I’d like a proper no10. Someone who will actually get the ball and create, also with the ability to get beyond the strikers. Fiorini might fit that bill??

Definitely agree. Of the rumours mentioned I'd be delighted with Taylor and Fiorini for the two midfield spots. Think they'd both add something we're lacking just now.

Striker is a tough one. When fully fit I thought Myko looked like a player who could easily play at a higher level, but he was rarely fully fit.

[Aldo]

Definitely agree. Of the rumours mentioned I'd be delighted with Taylor and Fiorini for the two midfield spots. Think they'd both add something we're lacking just now.

Striker is a tough one. When fully fit I thought Myko looked like a player who could easily play at a higher level, but he was rarely fully fit.

Myko is a no brainer for me but would agree his fitness is a worry. Loan with option to buy might be the best way forward??

As for the other two. Both look full of energy, have a bit about them with Fiorini looking to get beyond the strikers etc as well as creating! I know YouTube reels
mean nowt but hopefully we can get our targets in asap!

[04Sauzee]

Definitely agree. Of the rumours mentioned I'd be delighted with Taylor and Fiorini for the two midfield spots. Think they'd both add something we're lacking just now.

Striker is a tough one. When fully fit I thought Myko looked like a player who could easily play at a higher level, but he was rarely fully fit.

Taylor is 22 this month and Fiorini is only 21, would definitely be a young midfield.

[JohnM1875]

Myko is a no brainer for me but would agree his fitness is a worry. Loan with option to buy might be the best way forward??

As for the other two. Both look full of energy, have a bit about them with Fiorini looking to get beyond the strikers etc as well as creating! I know YouTube reels
mean nowt but hopefully we can get our targets in asap!

Aye, think the exact same about Myko. If we can get a loan with an option to buy it could easily be the best bit of business we've done in a while if he stays fit. So much to his game.

If you can't get excited about YouTube clips then what's the point in the transfer window right!

[Aldo]

Aye, think the exact same about Myko. If we can get a loan with an option to buy it could easily be the best bit of business we've done in a while if he stays fit. So much to his game.

If you can't get excited about YouTube clips then what's the point in the transfer window right!

Sure the club are working on it however I’m greedy and if we can get him and another it would be amazing.

Definitely and there is nothing better than a good rumour

[Donegal Hibby]

If Fish has agreed to join then that’s brilliant, but we still need quite a bit done imo.

CB
CM x 2 (attacking and defending)
Winger
Striker

Rocky is injury prone and Hanlon is getting on
CM’s to improve and come in as starters alongside Newell
Winger to compete with Youan and Boyle.
ST is hard to say without seeing ALF but 1 minimum, I’d be inclined to say 2 if we can get bodies out

Can see any of the following leave

Henderson
Kenneh
Tait
Delferriere
Mackay
Tavares
Doidge
Hauge
Melkersen
Would like a RB , CB , 3 CM's two with creative attacking qualities and another DM . Striker ( hopefully Mykola ) and someone that can play across the front , maybe. Demitri Oberlin .
Would keep McKay as squad player and loan out melkersen, Tavares and Delferriere . Rest can go . Would maybe add JDH to list as well

[Unseen work]

Taylor is 22 this month and Fiorini is only 21, would definitely be a young midfield.

Good thing is we would still have Jeggo who could come in, rotate etc if needed.

Also Campbell and JDH who have a decent amount of games under their belt, question is if both would stick about if we signed those 2.

Would rather Campbell as JDH seems to pick up a lot of injuries.

[Paulie Walnuts]

On the presumption fish has signed I would be hoping for a more dynamic, box to box centre midfielder still and a striker that isn’t Myko. Would take Myko as well but I’d rather we looked elsewhere for our main man with Mykos injury issues. Need a number 10 as well.

Another winger as well would be nice.

Going out I’d like to see henderson, McKirdy, Tavares, Melkersen and Kenneh and I wouldn’t be averse to Campbell being sold to help fund some signings if an offer of around £1m came in. Likewise wouldn’t be all that fussed if Rocky left but that would mean we’d need another CB.

[The Modfather]

I would agree about a striker and I’m sure Paloschi mentioned we are still perusing Mustapha.

I’d like a proper no10. Someone who will actually get the ball and create, also with the ability to get beyond the strikers. Fiorini might fit that bill??

Agree we need a number 10 and someone more comfortable on the ball to upgrade on Jeggo. I think we also need a new 3rd midfielder who has genuine drive and athleticism. We’ve no one in the squad who can receive the ball and drive us 20 or 30 yards up the pitch.

[Hibbyradge]

Sure the club are working on it however I’m greedy and if we can get him and another it would be amazing.

Definitely and there is nothing better than a good rumour

A good signing is infinitely better than a rumour!

[Aldo]

Agree we need a number 10 and someone more comfortable on the ball to upgrade on Jeggo. I think we also need a new 3rd midfielder who has genuine drive and athleticism. We’ve no one in the squad who can receive the ball and drive us 20 or 30 yards up the pitch.

Think the boy Taylor is that type of player going by his reel! Too many similar type players who don’t compliment each other and not a great balance.

As I mentioned hopefully some news sooner rather than later about new arrivals

[Aldo]

A good signing is infinitely better than a rumour!

You are indeed correct HR

[TelaStella]

A name never mentioned yet is Jack Fitzwater from Livi. Rumoured to be coming here a while before the end of season but next to no chat about him since? Hopefully means Fish is the outright priority as CB with all attention on bringing him back.


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[bingo70]

A name never mentioned yet is Jack Fitzwater from Livi. Rumoured to be coming here a while before the end of season but next to no chat about him since? Hopefully means Fish is the outright priority as CB with all attention on bringing him back.


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Was heavily rumoured at the start of the window, I am assuming if he was going to sign he would have done so by now.

Wonder if Boruc could end up getting more game time than planned. With the African nations cup this season he’ll be second choice for potentially around a month or so, if Marshall gets injured or is pish he could end up starting games.

[Unseen work]

Ethan Laidlaw has posted a photo saying “back soon ⚽️ “ with a photo of him playing for Hibs.

Obviously could just mean football in general, but we live in hope…

[Paulie Walnuts]

Was heavily rumoured at the start of the window, I am assuming if he was going to sign he would have done so by now.

Wonder if Boruc could end up getting more game time than planned. With the African nations cup this season he’ll be second choice for potentially around a month or so, if Marshall gets injured or is pish he could end up starting games.

If that’s the criteria for him getting a game then he’ll be playing. Marshall was desperately poor last season. One can only imagine what he’ll be like when he stops playing every week and then gets dropped in mid way through the season.

[ancient hibee]

There’s going to be a lot of disappointment for posters if we don’t see Fish again. There’s been no sign anywhere that matters that he’ll return.

[FifeHibs]

Ethan Laidlaw has posted a photo saying “back soon ⚽️ “ with a photo of him playing for Hibs.

Obviously could just mean football in general, but we live in hope…

Just saw that, fingers crossed

[bingo70]

If that’s the criteria for him getting a game then he’ll be playing. Marshall was desperately poor last season. One can only imagine what he’ll be like when he stops playing every week and then gets dropped in mid way through the season.

Yeah I agree although there’s maybe a counter argument that we played him too much last season and he might benefit from being a bit fresher. Good opportunity for Boruc though if he does well in development games.

[04Sauzee]

Ethan Laidlaw has posted a photo saying “back soon ⚽️ “ with a photo of him playing for Hibs.

Obviously could just mean football in general, but we live in hope…

https://i.ibb.co/SKmSKVQ/Screenshot-2023-06-26-21-14-16-80-1c337646f29875672b5a61192b9010f9.jpg (https://ibb.co/P5Wk51T)

[bingo70]

There’s going to be a lot of disappointment for posters if we don’t see Fish again. There’s been no sign anywhere that matters that he’ll return.

Think Kensell or LJ was telling people at the 24 hours of football thing at the weekend it was just about done.

[JohnM1875]

https://i.ibb.co/SKmSKVQ/Screenshot-2023-06-26-21-14-16-80-1c337646f29875672b5a61192b9010f9.jpg (https://ibb.co/P5Wk51T)

Means Hibs, surely? Could have easily posted a picture of him playing for the Scotland team. Or maybe we're just reading too much into it.

[Lago]

There’s going to be a lot of disappointment for posters if we don’t see Fish again. There’s been no sign anywhere that matters that he’ll return.
This

[chippy]

Means Hibs, surely? Could have easily posted a picture of him playing for the Scotland team. Or maybe we're just reading too much into it.
If he’s back BMc , LJ and BK are doing very well

[Hibs90]

Looking at the squad as it currently is we still probably need..

CB - Fish?
Potentially another CB
RB Cover for Miller

Magennis replacement
Nisbet replacement
Backup for wingers?

Maybe a utility player on loan?

[CentreForward]

Ethan Laidlaw has posted a photo saying “back soon ⚽️ “ with a photo of him playing for Hibs.

Obviously could just mean football in general, but we live in hope…


Fingers crossed on this one. Was really thinking that he might be the one that ‘got away’ so would be great news if he isn’t actually going anywhere.

[McGruber]

https://i.ibb.co/SKmSKVQ/Screenshot-2023-06-26-21-14-16-80-1c337646f29875672b5a61192b9010f9.jpg (https://ibb.co/P5Wk51T)

Just read it as back to playing football soon. Never know though

[PHeffernan]

I thought his highlights just showed him repeatedly losing possession interspersed with a couple of decent goal :dunno:

Agreed, style over substance

[cameronw-hfc]

Think Kensell or LJ was telling people at the 24 hours of football thing at the weekend it was just about done.

Last I heard was verbal agreement in place and will be done officially and signed off when he's back from his holiday. Loan deal.

[Paul1642]

Is it possible a promise of first team opportunities has swayed Laidlaw?

[Donegal Hibby]

Read that Luka modric has signed a new one year deal at Real Madrid, what a player he is btw . Probably not got enough credit over the years because Messi and Ronaldo were the main two .

[JohnM1875]

Is it possible a promise of first team opportunities has swayed Laidlaw?

Said something similar a while back. Surely more likely to get game time here than Watford. Hope he re-signs with us.

[PHeffernan]

Is it possible a promise of first team opportunities has swayed Laidlaw?

Will almost certainly be signing on at an English club on the 1st July ... but the photo playing for Hibs is a bit of a tease!

[CapitalGreen]

Will almost certainly be signing on at an English club on the 1st July ... but the photo playing for Hibs is a bit of a tease!

What’s the relevance of July 1st to Laidlaw signing?

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

What’s the relevance of July 1st to Laidlaw signing?

English contracts expire June 30th is the only thing I can imagine, but that wouldn’t apply to Laidlaws Hibs contract. Sure Scottish contracts expire earlier?


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[007]

An update on all transfers for Scottish teams

https://nareystoepoker.blogspot.com/p/all-spfl-transfers-summer-2023-window.html?m=1#PREMIERSHIP

Thanks, useful link.

So Hearts, St Johnstone, St Mirren and Elgin are the only clubs across all 4 divisions that haven't brought in a single player.

[Tambo]

If Fish has agreed to join then that’s brilliant, but we still need quite a bit done imo.

CB
CM x 2 (attacking and defending)
Winger
Striker

Rocky is injury prone and Hanlon is getting on
CM’s to improve and come in as starters alongside Newell
Winger to compete with Youan and Boyle.
ST is hard to say without seeing ALF but 1 minimum, I’d be inclined to say 2 if we can get bodies out

Can see any of the following leave

Henderson
Kenneh
Tait
Delferriere
Mackay
Tavares
Doidge
Hauge
Melkersen

Can maybe also add a RB to the list but the rest I agree with.

The McGrath talk has gone quiet also.

[PHeffernan]

What’s the relevance of July 1st to Laidlaw signing?

Feels like Qi just before the big klaxon sounds :rolleyes: but I'll indulge you.

It could be something or nothing in Laidlaw's case but English football contracts, as you know, finish on the 30th June so the 1st July would be the 1st day of a new contract. Obviously doesn't explain why he couldn't, as a free agent, be signed and announced by a new club before that date but that hasn't happened in Laidlaw's case.

Perhaps McDermott has successfully managed to persuade his advisers that the players interests are best served by continuing his development at Hibs.
One way or another it is coming to a head soon.

[JohnM1875]

Feels like Qi just before the big klaxon sounds :rolleyes: but I'll indulge you.

It could be something or nothing in Laidlaw's case but English football contracts, as you know, finish on the 30th June so the 1st July would be the 1st day of a new contract. Obviously doesn't explain why he couldn't, as a free agent, be signed and announced by a new club before that date but that hasn't happened in Laidlaw's case.
Perhaps McDermott has managed to persuade his advisers that the players best chance of success is to continue his development at Hibs.
One way or another it is coming to a head soon.

So when you said 'Will almost certainly be signing on at an English club on the 1st July' you were guessing aye?

[CapitalGreen]

Feels like Qi just before the big klaxon sounds :rolleyes: but I'll indulge you.

It could be something or nothing in Laidlaw's case but English football contracts, as you know, finish on the 30th June so the 1st July would be the 1st day of a new contract. Obviously doesn't explain why he couldn't, as a free agent, be signed and announced by a new club before that date but that hasn't happened in Laidlaw's case.

Perhaps McDermott has successfully managed to persuade his advisers that the players interests are best served by continuing his development at Hibs.
One way or another it is coming to a head soon.

I just looked it up, the window for English clubs to register players transferring from non-domestic leagues begins on July 1st.

[JohnM1875]

I just looked it up and it’s not to do with Laidlaw’s old contract expiring or new contract starting. The window for English clubs to register players transferring from non-domestic leagues begins on July 1st.

I know Laidlaw is hardly going to be a big signing, but plenty English clubs have announced players signing already? Or is it because Laidlaw was a free agent?

[Del Boy]

Steven Fletcher has held signing talks with Motherwell

[PHeffernan]

So when you said 'Will almost certainly be signing on at an English club on the 1st July' you were guessing aye?

Only Patrick McPartland never has to guess.
That's why I covered it with "almost certainly" which is based on the balance of probability given all the chat in the last 3 months about where the players future may lie.

[CapitalGreen]

I know Laidlaw is hardly going to be a big signing, but plenty English clubs have announced players signing already? Or is it because Laidlaw was a free agent?

They can sign him whenever they want, they just can’t register him until July 1st.

[JohnM1875]

Only Patrick McPartland never has to guess.
That's why I covered it with "almost certainly" which is based on the balance of probability given all the chat in the last 3 months about where the players future may lie.

Cheers, I get that.

The Laidlaw stuff seems to be all over the place with what folk have heard. Obviously hope he re-signs with us.

[JohnM1875]

They can sign him whenever they want, they just can’t register him until July 1st.

Ah, I get you now 👍🏻

[PHeffernan]

I just looked it up, the window for English clubs to register players transferring from non-domestic leagues begins on July 1st.

That's it, can sign any time but can't be registered by an English club before the 1st July.

Most players have returned for pre season after being on holiday so we should see player ins and outs picking up now on both sides of the border.

[McGruber]

I thought his highlights just showed him repeatedly losing possession interspersed with a couple of decent goal :dunno:

Ah the old higlights reel. 3 of the best..

- Edwin De Graff
- Frank Dja Djedje
- Jair Tavares

[xqnq1875]

Heard a few people saying the Jamie McGrath deal looks to be dead/collapsed, I don’t even think we were in for him in the first place even if we were it’s not a big loss he’s bang average at best and we could do much better


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[J-C]

I think if Laidlaw had re signed he'd be back at training already, there'd be no need for all this teasing by him if he was staying and the club would've announced it already. I feel it's him teasing July 1st when his new contract will start somewhere.

[JimBHibees]

Is it possible a promise of first team opportunities has swayed Laidlaw?

Maybe also up to the kid to prove he is good enough. Hopefully preseason he smashes it and gives us another genuine attacking threat.

[JimBHibees]

I think if Laidlaw had re signed he'd be back at training already, there'd be no need for all this teasing by him if he was staying and the club would've announced it already. I feel it's him teasing July 1st when his new contract will start somewhere.

My son was at the Ron event on Sunday seemed to think Laidlaw was there with rest of the players. Chat was Ethan had signed again for us.

[NC1875]

Cheers, I get that.

The Laidlaw stuff seems to be all over the place with what folk have heard. Obviously hope he re-signs with us.

Laidlaw was confident of signing for Watford 2 weeks ago and was due down last week I’m sure. Unless somethings happened since, he’ll be away.

People reading too much into a pic on twitter I think.

[J-C]

My son was at the Ron event on Sunday seemed to think Laidlaw was there with rest of the players. Chat was Ethan had signed again for us.


Strange it's not been announced by the club or Laidlaw, the players are back training, so why the tease by him? Could it also just be that he was there supporting the event and what it was for.

[Brooster]

Laidlaw is a Hibs player until Friday and as such is training with us. On Saturday he becomes a Watford player.

[J-C]

Laidlaw is a Hibs player until Friday and as such is training with us. On Saturday he becomes a Watford player.


I thought Scottish contracts ended on May 31st.

[JimBHibees]

Strange it's not been announced by the club or Laidlaw, the players are back training, so why the tease by him? Could it also just be that he was there supporting the event and what it was for.

Maybe you might be right.

[Hibernian Verse]

I thought Scottish contracts ended on May 31st.

Yeah that's right.

[Brooster]

I thought Scottish contracts ended on May 31st.

That was the last I heard but things might change of course. Would love to see him stay but only if LJ is willing to give him a chance.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Expect Laidlaw to stay tbh. No info, just reckon that he will.

All in all I’m not all that bothered either way. As far as next season goes I don’t think he’s ready for regular first team football from what I’ve seen.

[Brooster]

Expect Laidlaw to stay tbh. No info, just reckon that he will.

All in all I’m not all that bothered either way. As far as next season goes I don’t think he’s ready for regular first team football from what I’ve seen.

How much you seen of him?

[Paulie Walnuts]

How much you seen of him?

I’ve seen him 4 or 5 times. Not all that much but I’ve never thought he looks ready for first team football yet. I don’t think any of that team do.

[Last Minute]

Last I heard was verbal agreement in place and will be done officially and signed off when he's back from his holiday. Loan deal.


Not a loan deal :wink:

[Brooster]

I’ve seen him 4 or 5 times. Not all that much but I’ve never thought he looks ready for first team football yet. I don’t think any of that team do.

Thought so.

[MWHIBBIES]

Laidlaw is a Hibs player until Friday and as such is training with us. On Saturday he becomes a Watford player.

Why wouldn't he be down there already? Pointless exercise from Hibs to keep him here for a week.

.

[blackpoolhibs]

I watched quite a few players play for us last season, and thought they were not ready for first team football, but I had to see them get their chance to make that informed opinion.Laidlaw in my opinion was no worse than some of the dross we had on the park, and he has age on his side, with the obvious ability to hopefully improve.

[Bridge hibs]

Not a loan deal :wink:

Permanent ?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Thought so.

:faf:

You could tell me you’ve seen him 100 times. It doesn’t change my opinion on the fact that when I’ve seen him I don’t think he’s ready for regular first team football. Funnily enough it would appear LJ thinks so as well seeing as he never played him and he’ll have seen him more than yourself.

[Brooster]

You've seen Laidlaw and his team mates 4 times (probably less) and you've written them all off. Give it a rest.

[Paulie Walnuts]

You've seen Laidlaw and his team mates 4 times (probably less) and you've written them all off. Give it a rest.

Written them all off? :confused:

I’ve said I don’t think they’re ready for first team football yet. I don’t think our under 10s are either, it’s not writing them off though. I’ve never once said they’ll never be good enough, they’re 18 years old. It wouldn’t really be all that surprising for them not to be ready yet. LJ appears to agree given how much he’s used Laidlaw.

[Heisenberg]

Not a loan deal :wink:

You’ve been spot on before, really hope you are again with this.

[04Sauzee]

Not a loan deal :wink:

I'll take that as more or less ofishal 😁

[Brightside]

Bottom line is none of us know if Laidlaw could handle first team football. He’s never had a chance. Just like the rest of the youth squad. We decided to fill our bench with players we already know provide nothing.

[Stairway 2 7]

You've seen Laidlaw and his team mates 4 times (probably less) and you've written them all off. Give it a rest.

I've seen him over 20 times. I don't think he's ready for much meaningful, fast but slight. He should be going to the championship for a season it would be 50/50 whether he shined there. He's talented with a cracking finish but the probability on a % basis (as with all youngsters) is he won't make it at hibs as an adult.

Good luck to him in England but at 19 this winter I'm not sure youth football is what he should be doing

[Brooster]

Written them all off? :confused:

I’ve said I don’t think they’re ready for first team football yet. I don’t think our under 10s are either, it’s not writing them off though. I’ve never once said they’ll never be good enough, they’re 18 years old. It wouldn’t really be all that surprising for them not to be ready yet. LJ appears to agree given how much he’s used Laidlaw.

And we are never going to find out if LJ continues to fill his match day squad out with the Tavares, Devlins, Hendersons and Bojangs of this world. The Blaneys, Megwas and McIntyres of this world should be getting integrated into the first team squad now.

[Brightside]

And we are never going to find out if LJ continues to fill his match day squad out with the Tavares, Devlins, Hendersons and Bojangs of this world. The Blaneys, Megwas and McIntyres of this world should be getting integrated into the first team squad now.

Spot on. We have had some dross on the bench this season. Including having 2 CBs on the bench - one of them who played a total of about 10 mins all year. LJ even did a PR where he said these players would be integrated and we would be seeing them on match days. It never happened and they kept taking Jair. AND NEVER PLAYING HIM.

[Paulie Walnuts]

And we are never going to find out if LJ continues to fill his match day squad out with the Tavares, Devlins, Hendersons and Bojangs of this world. The Blaneys, Megwas and McIntyres of this world should be getting integrated into the first team squad now.

Devlin and Henderson are quite rightfully in the squad ahead of them. I don’t even rate henderson but he has 4 goals and 4 assists last season. Pretty much a goal involvement every 2 games based on the minutes he’s played.

Bojang got 10 minutes of league football and 2 games on the bench when he didn’t get on so it’s hardly like he’s been taking lots of vital minutes that Laidlaw could have had.

[Brightside]

Devlin and Henderson are quite rightfully in the squad ahead of them.

Bojang got 10 minutes of league football and 2 games on the bench when he didn’t get on so it’s hardly like he’s been taking lots of vital minutes that Laidlaw could have had.

Devlin? Really? What was the purpose of having him on the bench. The only time he came on LJ put him upfront in one of our worst performances of there season.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Devlin? Really? What was the purpose of having him on the bench. The only time he came on LJ put him upfront in one of our worst performances of there season.

What would have been the purpose of having one of the young laddies on the bench? They wouldn’t have been coming on either.

To be fair I can at least see where you’re coming from with Devlin. Henderson is miles ahead though and Bojang hardly played/got on the bench. Tavares is likely ahead of the likes of Laidlaw etc as well.

[Heisenberg]

Devlin? Really? What was the purpose of having him on the bench. The only time he came on LJ put him upfront in one of our worst performances of there season.

Yeah I’ve no idea what Devlin did to deserve a space on the bench ahead of some of our youth players. Waste of time him taking a spot in the squad every week.

[Brightside]

What would have been the purpose of having one of the young laddies on the bench? They wouldn’t have been coming on either.

To be fair I can at least see where you’re coming from with Devlin. Henderson is miles ahead though and Bojang hardly played/got on the bench. Tavares is likely ahead of the likes of Laidlaw etc as well.

I shouldn't have to explain that. But having a young player as part of the match day squad is hugely beneficial to their development. We could have swapped out 2 or 3 any week without issue.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I shouldn't have to explain that. But having a young player as part of the match day squad is hugely beneficial to their development. We could have swapped out 2 or 3 any week without issue.

Sitting on the bench does nothing for their development. It essentially allows them to do a warm up with the first team, something which they do in training anyway.

Playing games is beneficial to their development. Sitting on the bench isn’t. As it stands, from what I’ve seen, none of them look ready to play games and our manager would appear to agree.

If these guys would all be such good options from our bench then why is it League One/Championship teams taking them on loan? Why’s it not top end Championship/bottom end Scottish Premiership after them?

[Billy Whizz]

Not a loan deal :wink:

I always thought it would be a permanent deal. Man Utd are trying to reduce the number of players they have. Big Will would be far better singing a 2 year deal at Hibs and play most weeks

[BoomtownHibees]

Sitting on the bench does nothing for their development. It essentially allows them to do a warm up with the first team, something which they do in training anyway.

Playing games is beneficial to their development. Sitting on the bench isn’t. As it stands, from what I’ve seen, none of them look ready to play games and our manager would appear to agree.

Being in and around the first team squad on a match day will 100% help their development. It isn’t always about playing games at this stage of their career

[CockneyRebel]

Written them all off? :confused:

I’ve said I don’t think they’re ready for first team football yet. I don’t think our under 10s are either, it’s not writing them off though. I’ve never once said they’ll never be good enough, they’re 18 years old. It wouldn’t really be all that surprising for them not to be ready yet. LJ appears to agree given how much he’s used Laidlaw.


:greengrin

[SHODAN]

Even if Laidlaw does stay I'm not convinced he'll make it. They rarely do, especially strikers.

[Brightside]

Sitting on the bench does nothing for their development. It essentially allows them to do a warm up with the first team, something which they do in training anyway.

Playing games is beneficial to their development. Sitting on the bench isn’t. As it stands, from what I’ve seen, none of them look ready to play games and our manager would appear to agree.

If these guys would all be such good options from our bench then why is it League One/Championship teams taking them on loan? Why’s it not top end Championship/bottom end Scottish Premiership after them?

Mental development. It takes away the fear of being with the first team. Nearly all teams do it. We are very bad at it.

[green day]

Mental development. It takes away the fear of being with the first team. Nearly all teams do it. We are very bad at it.

I agree with your point.

However, that bit in bold makes me giggle , reminds me of the Terry Butcher quote - what was it again - "Losing the first goal removes the fear of losing the first goal" or something like that :greengrin:greengrin

[Brightside]

I agree with your point.

However, that bit in bold makes me giggle , reminds me of the Terry Butcher quote - what was it again - "Losing the first goal removes the fear of losing the first goal" or something like that :greengrin:greengrin

Yes - he was barking mad. :greengrin

[Paulie Walnuts]

Mental development. It takes away the fear of being with the first team. Nearly all teams do it. We are very bad at it.

They regularly train with the first team. They really don’t gain all that much from sitting on a bus to the game with the same guys they train with regularly, eat in the same canteen as regularly and do the same sort of drills they do before games at training with regularly.

Playing games is what matters. And when it comes to who’s getting on the pitch, guys like Henderson are miles ahead of the youth team just now so it stands to reason they’ll be on the bench ahead of them.

[Donegal Hibby]

Devlin? Really? What was the purpose of having him on the bench. The only time he came on LJ put him upfront in one of our worst performances of there season.
One of our worst performance's of the season , really? . We brought Devlin on up front for his height and aerial ability.

[O'Rourke3]

I thought Scottish contracts ended on May 31st.Extended into June to cover play offs and this year the SCF thanks to the WC in Qatar. A few teams were caught out a few years back.

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[MrRobot]

I think youth would have got more of a chance if we didn’t go through such a bad streak last season. Too many times we could have finished the game off and then rested senior players but we were nowhere near clinical enough and then we went on that horrendous run.

If we can take a comfortable lead against teams, i’d expect youngsters to get a game at that point.

[Brightside]

One of our worst performance's of the season , really? . We brought Devlin on up front for his height and aerial ability.

Yes - we were very poor against Hearts. Any type of system went out the window and we lumped up long balls for 40 minutes. But that's not really the point of this thread....so Yes - I think some of you younger players would have gained more on the bench this season than the likes of Devlin, Jair, Henderson etc. So I don't blame the young guys looking for other teams. I would really like us to stick with what we tell the fans though. LJ and others clearly said the young player would be part of match day squads (in order to help their development).

[Brightside]

They regularly train with the first team. They really don’t gain all that much from sitting on a bus to the game with the same guys they train with regularly, eat in the same canteen as regularly and do the same sort of drills they do before games at training with regularly.

Playing games is what matters. And when it comes to who’s getting on the pitch, guys like Henderson are miles ahead of the youth team just now so it stands to reason they’ll be on the bench ahead of them.

They gain loads. But we are taking the thread miles off line now - so lets move on.

[Paulie Walnuts]

They gain loads. But we are taking the thread miles off line now - so lets move on.

:aok:

[Donegal Hibby]

Yes - we were very poor against Hearts. Any type of system went out the window and we lumped up long balls for 40 minutes. But that's not really the point of this thread....so Yes - I think some of you younger players would have gained more on the bench this season than the likes of Devlin, Jair, Henderson etc. So I don't blame the young guys looking for other teams. I would really like us to stick with what we tell the fans though. LJ and others clearly said the young player would be part of match day squads (in order to help their development).
No where near one of our worst performance's of the season . We definitely ran out of steam in the the game and had little or no options to change it from the bench too. The younger guys were clearly deemed as not ready by the staff at hibs (hopefully this year a few get a chance).I don't really see these young guys looking for new clubs , quite a few have signed new contracts apart from Laidlaw of course who seems to have a bit of a attitude problem imo .

[Brightside]

No where near one of our worst performance's of the season . We definitely ran out of steam in the the game and had little or no options to change it from the bench too. The younger guys were clearly deemed as not ready by the staff at hibs (hopefully this year a few get a chance).I don't really see these young guys looking for new clubs , quite a few have signed new contracts apart from Laidlaw of course who seems to have a bit of a attitude problem imo .

Eh? People need to be really mindful about posting stuff like this about players. You and I know nothing about his attitude within the club. No one within the club has suggested anything of the sort. It's totally made up coz the guy has said he wants to move on.

[Donegal Hibby]

Eh? People need to be really mindful about posting stuff like this about players. You and I know nothing about his attitude within the club. No one within the club has suggested anything of the sort. It's totally made up coz the guy has said he wants to move on.
Your right we don't know much about it or the Harry Mckirdy stuff either though I thought it was well documented that he had criticised not only some of his teammates but also senior players in our squad. Probably just all made up like the Mckirdy stuff though.

[Smartie]

And we are never going to find out if LJ continues to fill his match day squad out with the Tavares, Devlins, Hendersons and Bojangs of this world. The Blaneys, Megwas and McIntyres of this world should be getting integrated into the first team squad now.

Re Blaney, Megwa and McIntyre.

If Fish joins, we'll have 3 first choice centre halves. We need 4, so I think it would make sense to promote a youngster to be on the fringes of the squad and I don't know if we'd necessarily want an experienced player to get frustrated in that 4th CH position. Blaney is ideally situated for this right now.

RB - we need a robust understudy for Miller but it should be Miller's jersey to lose. Megwa would appear to be ideal for that role.

McIntyre - I'm a bit disappointed we've prioritised another left back. Nothing against Obita but I'm still a bit Stevenson fan and would like to see him play the majority of games so it feels like an ideal situation to bleed a talented youngster into the side, particularly in a defensive unit that is as experienced as it is.

Laidlaw feels to me like he should be ready to be a robust back up for the front 3. Boyle's coming back from a bad injury and we're going to need to use our full squad at times, particularly if (no laughing up the back) we make a decent fist of Europe. So there should be glimpses of first team action and opportunities there for those who take their chances.


With a finite budget I'd have been very happy to use these youngsters and focus the vast majority of the budget on what still needs improved the most - our midfield.

[WeeRussell]

No where near one of our worst performance's of the season . We definitely ran out of steam in the the game and had little or no options to change it from the bench too. The younger guys were clearly deemed as not ready by the staff at hibs (hopefully this year a few get a chance).I don't really see these young guys looking for new clubs , quite a few have signed new contracts apart from Laidlaw of course who seems to have a bit of a attitude problem imo .

Running out of steam 5 minutes into the second half against a 10-man poor hearts side, happy to hold onto a draw, is very poor. Lumping balls forward and not taking any advantage of having an extra man and ample space to hurt them made it one of the most frustrating performances of the season for me.

[Hibs90]

I’ve seen him 4 or 5 times. Not all that much but I’ve never thought he looks ready for first team football yet. I don’t think any of that team do.

Did Deek, Brown, Thomson etc look ready for first team football when they were put in?

[sleeping giant]

Your right we don't know much about it or the Harry Mckirdy stuff either though I thought it was well documented that he had criticised not only some of his teammates but also senior players in our squad. Probably just all made up like the Mckirdy stuff though.
Where was this documented ?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Did Deek, Brown, Thomson etc look ready for first team football when they were put in?

I’ve no idea, I was about 11 years old at the time so didn’t see them playing youth football. Brown and Thomson looked more than comfortable when they came into the first team though. Brown scored 3 in his first 4 games.

[Hibs90]

Where was this documented ?

It wasn't.

Ethan's a good laddie.

[Carheenlea]

Did Deek, Brown, Thomson etc look ready for first team football when they were put in?

They did.

There wasn’t as much made of Deeks’ skinny frame as like we see now with the likes of a senior player like McKirdy and some of the youth in the fringes.

All the players you mentioned looked first team material.

[Donegal Hibby]

Running out of steam 5 minutes into the second half against a 10-man poor hearts side, happy to hold onto a draw, is very poor. Lumping balls forward and not taking any advantage of having an extra man and ample space to hurt them made it one of the most frustrating performances of the season for me.
It was a frustrating performance no doubt about that though I don't think it was one of our worst of the season. It really did show up how badly our bench lacked in any real quality though.

[Unseen work]

Your right we don't know much about it or the Harry Mckirdy stuff either though I thought it was well documented that he had criticised not only some of his teammates but also senior players in our squad. Probably just all made up like the Mckirdy stuff though.

He wasn’t directly criticising them if it’s the same thing we’re speaking about.

It was people tweeting him stuff like “Laidlaw should be given a chance to be in the squad instead of guys like Tavares”.

I think it’s just a daft young laddie liking the tweet from a fan saying he deserves a chance, rather than him meaning any disrespect to Tavares.

[Bishop Hibee]

They did.

There wasn’t as much made of Deeks’ skinny frame as like we see now with the likes of a senior player like McKirdy and some of the youth in the fringes.

All the players you mentioned looked first team material.

That’s because it was obvious Riordan had far more talent than McKirdy. Defenders couldn’t stop him as he was two footed. There’s surely space for one young player to be given a run.

They all had bad games but that’s to be expected of young players.

[Donegal Hibby]

It wasn't.

Ethan's a good laddie.
I thought it was well discussed on another thread and had been put up some of the comments made about O'Connor and Mckirdy at the time .If it was all a miss understanding fair enough though if he did he was wrong in doing so . I'm quite sure he's a good lad as probably Mckirdy is too btw .

If he signs on great , if he doesn't I'm not overly bothered tbh . One thing I will say is it's been said that folk don't blame him for moving because of lack of first opportunities, the club he's being linked with is Watford and I hardly think they are a easier path to first team football than us so imo if he does move its not really down to trying to get first team football being the main objective with him .

[Carheenlea]

That’s because it was obvious Riordan had far more talent than McKirdy. Defenders couldn’t stop him as he was two footed. There’s surely space for one young player to be given a run.

They all had bad games but that’s to be expected of young players.

It kind of goes without saying that the skinny frame (and perhaps the flamboyant hairstyling) is where any resemblance between the two ends..

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Did Deek, Brown, Thomson etc look ready for first team football when they were put in?

Brown came on for O’Connor in the first half v Aberdeen and set up three goals. He was seventeen.

[Tambo]

Re Blaney, Megwa and McIntyre.

If Fish joins, we'll have 3 first choice centre halves. We need 4, so I think it would make sense to promote a youngster to be on the fringes of the squad and I don't know if we'd necessarily want an experienced player to get frustrated in that 4th CH position. Blaney is ideally situated for this right now.

RB - we need a robust understudy for Miller but it should be Miller's jersey to lose. Megwa would appear to be ideal for that role.

McIntyre - I'm a bit disappointed we've prioritised another left back. Nothing against Obita but I'm still a bit Stevenson fan and would like to see him play the majority of games so it feels like an ideal situation to bleed a talented youngster into the side, particularly in a defensive unit that is as experienced as it is.

Laidlaw feels to me like he should be ready to be a robust back up for the front 3. Boyle's coming back from a bad injury and we're going to need to use our full squad at times, particularly if (no laughing up the back) we make a decent fist of Europe. So there should be glimpses of first team action and opportunities there for those who take their chances.


With a finite budget I'd have been very happy to use these youngsters and focus the vast majority of the budget on what still needs improved the most - our midfield.

Megwa done well last season out on loan, what I've been thinking will happen is he will be cover for Miller untill we finally get a decision on Egan-Riley.

Was hoping this was the season for Oscar but looks like it won't so a loan move at the highest standard would be best for me. That goes for a few of the younger players.

I really don't think we have Jair enough time last season, i was one of the posters asking why as he wasn't the player we hoped would shine straight away but definitely wasn't as bad as some made out. A loan move could also be good for him and see how he gets on until January.

Would love Laidlaw to be at Hibs the upcoming season, this is not a dig at Johnson but it don't look like many youngsters again will be in the first team.

[sleeping giant]

I thought it was well discussed on another thread and had been put up some of the comments made about O'Connor and Mckirdy at the time .If it was all a miss understanding fair enough though if he did he was wrong in doing so . I'm quite sure he's a good lad as probably Mckirdy is too btw .

If he signs on great , if he doesn't I'm not overly bothered tbh . One thing I will say is it's been said that folk don't blame him for moving because of lack of first opportunities, the club he's being linked with is Watford and I hardly think they are a easier path to first team football than us so imo if he does move its not really down to trying to get first team football being the main objective with him .

Documented is a bit different than folk talking pish on a messageboatd.

[Donegal Hibby]

He wasn’t directly criticising them if it’s the same thing we’re speaking about.

It was people tweeting him stuff like “Laidlaw should be given a chance to be in the squad instead of guys like Tavares”.

I think it’s just a daft young laddie liking the tweet from a fan saying he deserves a chance, rather than him meaning any disrespect to Tavares.
I thought I had read he had done slightly more than just liking a tweet from a fan in remarks to him being better than O'Connor and Mckirdy. I actually 100% trust our management in knowing when these guys are ready to step up to the first team tbh . Anyhow he's only a young lad who's probably just made a silly mistake and if he stays I hope he improves this year and gets a chance , if he goes I wish him well too .

[Smartie]

Megwa done well last season out on loan, what I've been thinking will happen is he will be cover for Miller untill we finally get a decision on Egan-Riley.

Was hoping this was the season for Oscar but looks like it won't so a loan move at the highest standard would be best for me. That goes for a few of the younger players.

I really don't think we have Jair enough time last season, i was one of the posters asking why as he wasn't the player we hoped would shine straight away but definitely wasn't as bad as some made out. A loan move could also be good for him and see how he gets on until January.

Would love Laidlaw to be at Hibs the upcoming season, this is not a dig at Johnson but it don't look like many youngsters again will be in the first team.

What I find a bit weird about Johnson is that he does have a reputation from his previous clubs of giving youth a chance, and some talented young players have really prospered under him elsewhere so his reluctance to even give our young players a sniff seems a bit weird. With Laidlaw in particular it didn't seem to make much sense that he wasn't on the fringes of the squad over the course of the second half of the season and that as much as anything has given rise to all sort of rumours and conspiracy theories about the lad.

[Donegal Hibby]

Documented is a bit different than folk talking pish on a messageboatd.
Sorry wrong choice of wording . It was well talked about and I think what the player had said was put up on another threat too . I was only going by what had been discussed and seeing what the player had said though didn't really know a lot more about it than that . Quite happy now that you've have cleared it up to being a load of rubbish now👍

[Hibbyradge]

What I find a bit weird about Johnson is that he does have a reputation from his previous clubs of giving youth a chance, and some talented young players have really prospered under him elsewhere so his reluctance to even give our young players a sniff seems a bit weird. With Laidlaw in particular it didn't seem to make much sense that he wasn't on the fringes of the squad over the course of the second half of the season and that as much as anything has given rise to all sort of rumours and conspiracy theories about the lad.

He spent last season hanging on to his job by a thread. I completely understand why he wasn't willing to take a lot of risks.

Hopefully, if he's a bit more secure next season, he'll introduce a few younger players, if he thinks they're good enough. And that might be the moot point.

[SickBoy32]

Re Blaney, Megwa and McIntyre.

If Fish joins, we'll have 3 first choice centre halves. We need 4, so I think it would make sense to promote a youngster to be on the fringes of the squad and I don't know if we'd necessarily want an experienced player to get frustrated in that 4th CH position. Blaney is ideally situated for this right now.

RB - we need a robust understudy for Miller but it should be Miller's jersey to lose. Megwa would appear to be ideal for that role.

McIntyre - I'm a bit disappointed we've prioritised another left back. Nothing against Obita but I'm still a bit Stevenson fan and would like to see him play the majority of games so it feels like an ideal situation to bleed a talented youngster into the side, particularly in a defensive unit that is as experienced as it is.

Laidlaw feels to me like he should be ready to be a robust back up for the front 3. Boyle's coming back from a bad injury and we're going to need to use our full squad at times, particularly if (no laughing up the back) we make a decent fist of Europe. So there should be glimpses of first team action and opportunities there for those who take their chances.


With a finite budget I'd have been very happy to use these youngsters and focus the vast majority of the budget on what still needs improved the most - our midfield.

Wholeheartedly agree with this, McIntyre and Megwa (Laidlaw too if he stays) should all be integrated into the first team squad

Midfield as you’ve mentioned is where I’d have been prioritising the budget personally, alongside a good quality centre half and centre forward

I just refuse to believe these guys are any ‘less ready’ for SPL football than the likes of McKirdy, Melk, Tavares etc

[Callum_62]

Mind Joaquin Sosa - he's playing in seria A now

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[Paulie Walnuts]

What I find a bit weird about Johnson is that he does have a reputation from his previous clubs of giving youth a chance, and some talented young players have really prospered under him elsewhere so his reluctance to even give our young players a sniff seems a bit weird. With Laidlaw in particular it didn't seem to make much sense that he wasn't on the fringes of the squad over the course of the second half of the season and that as much as anything has given rise to all sort of rumours and conspiracy theories about the lad.

Maybe he just doesn’t think they’re good enough yet?

If he has a reputation for giving youth a chance then I’d suspect he’s not going to have decided that’s not a route he wants to go down. The most likely scenario to me would seem to be that they’re not ready to be playing first team football or else he’d have given them a go like he’s shown himself willing to do elsewhere.

[04Sauzee]

Mind Joaquin Sosa - he's playing in seria A now

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did he not sign for Balogna about the time we were meant to be looking at him?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Wholeheartedly agree with this, McIntyre and Megwa (Laidlaw too if he stays) should all be integrated into the first team squad

Midfield as you’ve mentioned is where I’d have been prioritising the budget personally, alongside a good quality centre half and centre forward

I just refuse to believe these guys are any ‘less ready’ for SPL football than the likes of McKirdy, Melk, Tavares etc

Whilst you might say they can’t be any less ready, would we fancy any of these young guys to have scored nearly 20 goals in EFL2 last season like McKirdy did? Or to have scored 4 in 24 as a winger in the Portuguese second tier, a level likely to be at least as good as our Championship?

I think there’s often a tendency to presume that the young guys ‘can’t be any worse’ when in reality the vast majority of every youth team we ever have will never make it to the level guys like Jair or McKirdy had before they came to Hibs. Most of them will end up part time.

[K-Zazu]

No where near one of our worst performance's of the season . We definitely ran out of steam in the the game and had little or no options to change it from the bench too. The younger guys were clearly deemed as not ready by the staff at hibs (hopefully this year a few get a chance).I don't really see these young guys looking for new clubs , quite a few have signed new contracts apart from Laidlaw of course who seems to have a bit of a attitude problem imo .

What attitude problem is that?

[Donegal Hibby]

Our new keeper comes across well in his first interview.
https://youtu.be/Z1TmP2XDw_M

[The Modfather]

Whilst you might say they can’t be any less ready, would we fancy any of these young guys to have scored nearly 20 goals in EFL2 last season like McKirdy did? Or to have scored 4 in 24 as a winger in the Portuguese second tier, a level likely to be at least as good as our Championship?

I think there’s often a tendency to presume that the young guys ‘can’t be any worse’ when in reality the vast majority of every youth team we ever have will never make it to the level guys like Jair or McKirdy had before they came to Hibs. Most of them will end up part time.

I’d have expected them to match the little to no return we saw this season from the likes of McKirdy or Tavares. They would likely have developed to varying degrees from the minutes they would have got. I can understand not introducing them when we’ve got a squad all contributing. As it is we persisted with guys not contributing, who are a priority to move on, instead.

[Brightside]

Whilst you might say they can’t be any less ready, would we fancy any of these young guys to have scored nearly 20 goals in EFL2 last season like McKirdy did? Or to have scored 4 in 24 as a winger in the Portuguese second tier, a level likely to be at least as good as our Championship?

I think there’s often a tendency to presume that the young guys ‘can’t be any worse’ when in reality the vast majority of every youth team we ever have will never make it to the level guys like Jair or McKirdy had before they came to Hibs. Most of them will end up part time.

We aren't asking them to play in EFL2 or Portuguese 2nd tier. The players you mentioned are obviously more suited to that style of football. The youth players only know Scottish football - so we may as well have a wild stab that they would be more prepared than a wee boy that played Portuguese 2nd tier.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’d have expected them to match the little to no return we saw this season from the likes of McKirdy or Tavares. They would likely have developed to varying degrees from the minutes they would have got. I can understand not introducing them when we’ve got a squad all contributing. As it is we persisted with guys not contributing, who are a priority to move on, instead.

I would expect them to match it as well but matching absolutely zero isn’t really anything to write home about. At that point it’s a case of what player would we fancy the most to offer more than absolute zero at some point. The guys who have offered something elsewhere in professional men’s football are much more likely than the guys who haven’t, history would show us that with how many youth players make it through our youth system to first team level/how many of them end up not even playing full time football pretty quickly.

Whilst we could argue the likes of Laidlaw, O’Connor would have benefitted from the minutes, that argument can also be made for Tavares and McKirdy. Yes, they didn’t end up benefitting from them, but the same might have been the case for Laidlaw and O’Connor etc.

McKirdy and Tavares stood more chance of offering something for us last season than the youth team guys did imo.

It would be interesting to hear LJs thoughts on it, why he never involved them etc.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We aren't asking them to play in EFL2 or Portuguese 2nd tier. The players you mentioned are obviously more suited to that style of football. The youth players only know Scottish football - so we may as well have a wild stab that they would be more prepared than a wee boy that played Portuguese 2nd tier.

We’re asking them to play men’s football. They don’t know Scottish men’s football. Playing men’s football in a different country, especially in England, prepares you a hell of a lot more for playing men’s football in Scotland than playing youth football does where you’re playing against guys whom the vast majority of them will be part time within a year or two and they’re all built like teenagers.

[Centre Hawf]

I’d have expected them to match the little to no return we saw this season from the likes of McKirdy or Tavares. They would likely have developed to varying degrees from the minutes they would have got. I can understand not introducing them when we’ve got a squad all contributing. As it is we persisted with guys not contributing, who are a priority to move on, instead .

I won't disagree that many of the guys that we would like to see moved on that were still getting game time ultimately contributed very little to us, especially some in the forward areas.

But I do actually think when you look at some of these lads it's more a tactical knowledge and having experience in different scenarios that some manager's prefer to play them at times out of safety instead of throwing in a youngster, especially when you're perhaps 1 lost runner/daft mistake from earning you a loss that costs you your job.

Some of the guys we wanted/still want rid of this window probably have at least 150+ senior appearances under their belts, that doesn't really make them good players. But it probably means they've learnt a lot in that time (hopefully). And when it comes to doing the finer things, especially in training with each other, it looks more natural and tactical instructions from managers perhaps sink in quicker from having learned experience of either doing it before or similar in senior matches.

It's a catch 22 though because how do you get an Oscar MacIntyre ready to play left back for Hibs without letting him ever play and learn from either his mistakes or general experience?

I think ultimately we need to be careful about trying to force in the idea of a new golden generation and treat each player as an individual and work out what is best for them to develop into a Hibs player, and I think it's probably fair to say that a few of them need another season under the belts before they can start banging on the door for many minutes in the first team. You need only look at the likes of Ryan Porteous to see what a difference 20-30 senior games can make to you at an early age.

[The Modfather]

I would expect them to match it as well but matching absolutely zero isn’t really anything to write home about. At that point it’s a case of what player would we fancy the most to offer more than absolute zero at some point. The guys who have offered something elsewhere in professional men’s football are much more likely than the guys who haven’t, history would show us that with how many youth players make it through our youth system to first team level/how many of them end up not even playing full time football pretty quickly.

Whilst we could argue the likes of Laidlaw, O’Connor would have benefitted from the minutes, that argument can also be made for Tavares and McKirdy. Yes, they didn’t end up benefitting from them, but the same might have been the case for Laidlaw and O’Connor etc.

McKirdy and Tavares stood more chance of offering something for us last season than the youth team guys did imo.

At the start of last summer I think your argument about who should have been given minutes makes sense. When you get to say January and those players have contributed nothing then it’s time to start giving the U19s their chance instead.

Hopefully McDermott can make the changes needed at Hibs. The early evidence seems to show that we have a far better transfer strategy than before he came in. Time for him to get stuck into the pathway to the first team. No more signings like Devlin who are just padding out the bench and no real intention to ever actually use. Start to integrate the youngsters as backup and use them when the time comes. No more being scared to play Macintyre when all our left backs were out, or scared to play Megwa at RB when all our RB’s were out at home to second bottom of the league Dundee Utd. Campbell, through no fault of his own, was moved from those positions both times mid game as an aside. Will we lose games directly as a result of playing these youngsters from time to time, yes. So be it. Either proactively use our youth academy or strip it back to the bare bones. None of this middle ground wilderness of spending lots of money running it but at the same time scared to ever use it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

At the start of last summer I think your argument about who should have been given minutes makes sense. When you get to say January and those players have contributed nothing then it’s time to start giving the U19s their chance instead.

Hopefully McDermott can make the changes needed at Hibs. The early evidence seems to show that we have a far better transfer strategy than before he came in. Time for him to get stuck into the pathway to the first team. No more signings like Devlin who are just padding out the bench and no real intention to ever actually use. Start to integrate the youngsters as backup and use them when the time comes. No more being scared to play Macintyre when all our left backs were out, or scared to play Megwa at RB when all our RB’s were out at home to second bottom of the league Dundee Utd. Campbell, through no fault of his own, was moved from those positions both times mid game as an aside. Will we lose games directly as a result of playing these youngsters from time to time, yes. So be it. Either proactively use our youth academy or strip it back to the bare bones. None of this middle ground wilderness of spending lots of money running it but at the same time scared to ever use it.

McKirdy had made 10 appearances by January, Jair had made 7. Writing them off at that point would have been madness imo considering both had lengthy contracts, fees spent etc. what happens when Laidlaw gets his 7 short sub appearances and doesn’t do anything? Do we bin him and go back to McKirdy and Jair or do we just roll the dice on another young player?

I’d agree with your point about the youth system though, but more just generally in terms of I don’t see the value of it. It must cost a fair chunk to run and we rarely see anyone come through it.

[Scooter]

Our new keeper comes across well in his first interview.
https://youtu.be/Z1TmP2XDw_M

Its about time we had a keeper that comes for a cross

[andrew70]

Our new keeper comes across well in his first interview.
https://youtu.be/Z1TmP2XDw_M

Comes across very grounded (not on a goalie level I hope) and level headed with plenty of experience.

Freed from desire

Hibs are on top
Now we’ve got JoJo Wollacott.

[Hibiza]

Whilst you might say they can’t be any less ready, would we fancy any of these young guys to have scored nearly 20 goals in EFL2 last season like McKirdy did? Or to have scored 4 in 24 as a winger in the Portuguese second tier, a level likely to be at least as good as our Championship?

I think there’s often a tendency to presume that the young guys ‘can’t be any worse’ when in reality the vast majority of every youth team we ever have will never make it to the level guys like Jair or McKirdy had before they came to Hibs. Most of them will end up part time.

It's a sad reflection on our youth set up if they're behind Hair and Mckirdy.

[Hibiza]

Jair

[xqnq1875]

Keannu baccus’s move just fell through at Bolton would 100% take him at hibs they almost got him for 200k as well but I can imagine they’d be wanting a lot more money if another Scottish club went in for him


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[04Sauzee]

Keannu baccus’s move just fell through at Bolton would 100% take him at hibs they almost got him for 200k as well but I can imagine they’d be wanting a lot more money if another Scottish club went in for him


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Is there not an opinion that his form dipped after the world cup? Can't say I have paid much attention to him, just know in the early days he was getting good reviews.

[CapitalGreen]

Keannu baccus’s move just fell through at Bolton would 100% take him at hibs they almost got him for 200k as well but I can imagine they’d be wanting a lot more money if another Scottish club went in for him


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Never really got the hype with Baccus.