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Since452
27-07-2023, 10:14 AM
Manchester United defender Will Fish will spend the 2023/24 season on loan with Scottish top-flight club Hibernian.



Manchester-born Fish spent last season at Easter Road, and helped the Hibbees finish fifth in the league table, which earns them a spot in this term's UEFA Conference League.

Fish made 21 appearances in all competitions, scoring three goals, and solidified his place in the starting XI during the second half of the season.

The 20-year-old was involved in three of United's pre-season games ahead of 2023/24, against Leeds, Lyon and Wrexham, but will now head north to join up with Lee Johnson's Hibs squad.




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Fish has made one first-team appearance to date, against Wolves back in 2020/21.


Will has captained both our Under-21 and Under-18 sides at Academy level, and has made one senior competitive appearance for the first team to date.

That opportunity was granted by former manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer at the end of the 2020/21 season, when he replaced Daniel James in the final stages of a 2-1 Premier League win away at Wolves.

The following season, 2021/22, Fish enjoyed another loan assignment with nearby Stockport County.








Now he continues his football development by rejoining Hibernian, with the promise of building on last season's progress and enjoying a first crack at European football.

Everybody at United would like to wish Will and Hibs the best of luck for the 2023/24 season.

Callum_62
27-07-2023, 10:14 AM
Soon? As in today? Tomorrow maybe?

Id be surpised if we announce anyone else today being so close to the game (Fish was expected and discussed heavily)

Hopefully tomorrow though if its happening

badabing67
27-07-2023, 10:14 AM
Striker incoming soon. Dutch second division, decent cash paid.


👍

Where are you seeing this info

flash
27-07-2023, 10:16 AM
Where are you seeing this info

He is providing the info.

Up-the-slope
27-07-2023, 10:17 AM
👍

Is that you confirming it is him? or confirming he was mentioned before :confused:

Greenworld
27-07-2023, 10:18 AM
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/update-emerges-amid-coventry-city-and-swansea-city-links-to-overseas-player/

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brog
27-07-2023, 10:22 AM
Unfortunately January review included in season long loan, not ideal.

Agreed, but I think that's only insurance.

blackpoolhibs
27-07-2023, 10:25 AM
I'd imagine we have included that clause in some of our loans when they have gone out to other clubs.

MacBean
27-07-2023, 10:27 AM
Looks like Sunderland also linked with him

Callum_62
27-07-2023, 10:33 AM
https://twitter.com/RodaJCKerkrade/status/1683848641683812354?t=ng6pkPFsiDZUh9l128bcXA&s=19

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Jones28
27-07-2023, 10:36 AM
https://twitter.com/RodaJCKerkrade/status/1683848641683812354?t=ng6pkPFsiDZUh9l128bcXA&s=19

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Yes please :agree:

NGoloGrantie
27-07-2023, 10:41 AM
https://twitter.com/gbenefn/status/1684479971639562240?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g


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NGoloGrantie
27-07-2023, 10:42 AM
https://twitter.com/gbenefn/status/1684479971639562240?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g


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Ah wrong bloke. Thought this was the striker ffs [emoji2357]


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Callum_62
27-07-2023, 10:43 AM
Yes please :agree:Can't see it myself

But you never know

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CapitalGreen
27-07-2023, 10:45 AM
According to a random tweeter, the Roda DoF has said Vente isn’t going to England.

flash
27-07-2023, 10:47 AM
According to a random tweeter, the Roda DoF has said Vente isn’t going to England.

Maybe slightly further north......

JimBHibees
27-07-2023, 10:48 AM
I'd imagine we have included that clause in some of our loans when they have gone out to other clubs.

Definitely will have. Not a huge concern wouldn't have thought.

JimBHibees
27-07-2023, 10:50 AM
According to a random tweeter, the Roda DoF has said Vente isn’t going to England.

Swansea ? :greengrin

04Sauzee
27-07-2023, 10:54 AM
Maybe slightly further north......

Someone linking him to Grasshoppers and someone also saying he won't get a work permit for England?

Edinburgh Green
27-07-2023, 10:54 AM
Someone linking him to Grasshoppers and someone also saying he won't get a work permit for England?

A lot of tweets saying Sunderland are close to signing him

Hibby Kay-Yay
27-07-2023, 10:58 AM
If Fish is recalled in Jan, then I wonder if we will try and get CJ back as he should have recovered by then.

Waxy
27-07-2023, 10:59 AM
A lot of tweets saying Sunderland are close to signing him

Nobody tweets anymore, they x

flash
27-07-2023, 10:59 AM
Roda manager is Hibs legend Edwin De Graaf. That must swing it.

Billy Whizz
27-07-2023, 10:59 AM
If Fish is recalled in Jan, then I wonder if we will try and get CJ back as he should have recovered by then.

I’m not convinced CJ is a centre back, but certainly can play right back or midfield

JohnM1875
27-07-2023, 11:00 AM
Roda manager is Hibs legend Edwin De Graaf. That must swing it.

It's all starting to make sense. It must be happening.

NGoloGrantie
27-07-2023, 11:06 AM
https://twitter.com/skybluestweets/status/1684178072566632448?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

If Coventry were unable to pay his wages I very much doubt we could


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lyonhibs
27-07-2023, 11:08 AM
Now Fish has signed we're all agreed right? Scottish Cup and Conference League double?

Heisenberg
27-07-2023, 11:09 AM
https://twitter.com/skybluestweets/status/1684178072566632448?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

If Coventry were unable to pay his wages I very much doubt we could


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Highly doubt that’s accurate to be honest.

bingo70
27-07-2023, 11:10 AM
https://twitter.com/skybluestweets/status/1684178072566632448?s=46&t=teWgCfrX60lbBmqMtdAt4g

If Coventry were unable to pay his wages I very much doubt we could


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Comments on that tweet suggest the tweeter is a slaver.

lyonhibs
27-07-2023, 11:11 AM
Id imagine the below are more likely

Martijn Kaars
Jeredy Hilterman
Elton Kabangu
Nick Venema
Jizz Hornkamp

The one id chose from that list is blatantly obvious.

Aside from the hilarious name, great player. Has just signed for Heracles though so I doubt it

SaulGoodman
27-07-2023, 11:15 AM
Nobody tweets anymore, they x

They what? You didn’t finish your sentence xxx

WhileTheChief..
27-07-2023, 11:16 AM
We regularly read of loans players possibly being recalled by their parent club - we talk about it with players we loan out.

My guess is that it's the norm. Not worried by Man U being able to review things, seems like good old fashioned common sense to me.

Glad he's here. Being concerned about a player leaving on the day he signs for us seems a tad premature!

JeMeSouviens
27-07-2023, 11:17 AM
Google translate of https://www.soccernews.nl/news/roda-jc-legt-zauner-vast-transfergesprekken-vente-verlopen-positief/


Dylan Vente will almost certainly no longer score goals for Roda JC. The striker has been negotiating with a foreign club for several days, the name of which is jealously kept secret.

“I understood from Vente's agent that the negotiations are going well and Dylan spoke to that club's coach,” Roda technical boss Servais further explains. “It's not an English club, so I don't understand where the rumors I've read about whether or not to get a work permit come from. There is no question of that, I can tell.”

Vente will no longer train at Roda JC, at least provisionally if the transfer abroad actually makes ends meet.

badabing67
27-07-2023, 11:21 AM
Are Roda JC part of the City Group

04Sauzee
27-07-2023, 11:24 AM
Are Roda JC part of the City Group

No I don't think so

Onceinawhile
27-07-2023, 11:25 AM
Folk are going to set themselves up for believing its this vente boy then getting disappointed if it isn't.

If he's been linked to Swansea, Coventry and Sunderland, no danger we can afford him.

Greenworld
27-07-2023, 11:31 AM
Folk are going to set themselves up for believing its this vente boy then getting disappointed if it isn't.

If he's been linked to Swansea, Coventry and Sunderland, no danger we can afford him.The clubs mentioned are denying any interest ...

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Hibs90
27-07-2023, 11:33 AM
And that’s how a rumour grows arms and legs

007
27-07-2023, 11:35 AM
Folk are going to set themselves up for believing its this vente boy then getting disappointed if it isn't.

If he's been linked to Swansea, Coventry and Sunderland, no danger we can afford him.

It's all a misunderstanding. Someone overhead LJ telling Ben Kensell what size of cappuccino he wanted from Starbucks.

raeburnhibs
27-07-2023, 11:41 AM
Folk are going to set themselves up for believing its this vente boy then getting disappointed if it isn't.

If he's been linked to Swansea, Coventry and Sunderland, no danger we can afford him.

They are denying interest perhaps because these clubs don't think he is at their level yet. Other statements suggesting the move is out with England. Maybe the player believes we are a good stepping stone to the potential riches higher up the food chain in England and a couple of years with us on likely better salary and living in Edinburgh isn't so bad. Maybe his club will insist on a biggish sell on clause. Not unheard of is it?

CallumLaidlaw
27-07-2023, 11:42 AM
They are denying interest perhaps because these clubs don't think he is at their level yet. Other statements suggesting the move is out with England. Maybe the player believes we are a good stepping stone to the potential riches higher up the food chain in England and a couple of years with us on likely better salary and living in Edinburgh isn't so bad. Maybe his club will insist on a biggish sell on clause. Not unheard of is it?

If the sporting director is saying it’s not England so work permit won’t be a problem, would that not include Scotland too then?


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overdrive
27-07-2023, 11:43 AM
Id imagine the below are more likely

Martijn Kaars
Jeredy Hilterman
Elton Kabangu
Nick Venema
Jizz Hornkamp

The one id chose from that list is blatantly obvious.

He even has the obligatory moustache! How did you...erm... come across that name?

overdrive
27-07-2023, 11:44 AM
If the sporting director is saying it’s not England so work permit won’t be a problem, would that not include Scotland too then?


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I think it is slightly easier to get a work permit for Scotland. It certainly was before Brexit in terms of non-EU players, so I assume it would be the same for EU players now.

Hibee Daft
27-07-2023, 11:46 AM
Hopefully Fish stays full season, the January review could be in case of lack of game time also. We have Hanlon, Rocky, Harbottle. Still think there is massive potential there with Rocky.

Im assuming it will be Fish and Hanlon as first picks though.

blackpoolhibs
27-07-2023, 11:47 AM
Nobody tweets anymore, they x

I normally end a message with two kisses.

Paul1642
27-07-2023, 11:48 AM
A rumour at last! But would he play well in the same team as Hanlon? ;)

Hibees1973
27-07-2023, 11:50 AM
He even has the obligatory moustache! How did you...erm... come across that name?

Hopefully he will cum :greengrin

CapitalGreen
27-07-2023, 11:50 AM
If the sporting director is saying it’s not England so work permit won’t be a problem, would that not include Scotland too then?


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Easier to get a WP in Scotland. Initially, in England if a player didn’t meet the points threshold they wouldn't get a WP, now the FA have allowed clubs to sign a limited number of non-GBE eligible players a club can sign.

In Scotland, if a player doesn’t meet the points threshold a club can appeal through the SFA and the player will nearly always be granted a WP. There is also no limit on the number of non-GBE eligible players a club can sign.

Smartie
27-07-2023, 11:51 AM
Hopefully Fish stays full season, the January review could be in case of lack of game time also. We have Hanlon, Rocky, Harbottle. Still think there is massive potential there with Rocky.

Im assuming it will be Fish and Hanlon as first picks though.

It’s probably an “if the huns can scrape enough grubby blue pounds from their Euro adventures this season to be in a position to adequately pony up” clause.

Paul1642
27-07-2023, 11:56 AM
It’s probably an “if the huns can scrape enough grubby blue pounds from their Euro adventures this season to be in a position to adequately pony up” clause.

I hope the laddie has higher aspirations than that. He has zero ties to Glasgow or rangers and must view his chances of playing in the English Premiership as realistic.

Hibees1973
27-07-2023, 12:00 PM
It’s probably an “if the huns can scrape enough grubby blue pounds from their Euro adventures this season to be in a position to adequately pony up” clause.

Really don't expect it to be a lack of game time with the other Centre Halfs we have.

Fish seems to be fairly close to the Man Utd first team squad so he may be recalled if he is doing well at Hibs and United have centre halfs who are injured or in poor form.

Edinburgh Green
27-07-2023, 12:16 PM
Striker incoming soon. Dutch second division, decent cash paid.

Regardless if this true or not. I appreciate you keeping the energy high on this thread after the Fish signing. :thumbsup:

Since452
27-07-2023, 12:18 PM
Fish will play for Man United's first team in the future. A young English centre half? He's too expensive for Rangers already so wouldn't be concerned with that. Absolutely delighted he's back. We're now one striker way from having our best squad in years. Probably already do.

SaulGoodman
27-07-2023, 12:24 PM
Folk are going to set themselves up for believing its this vente boy then getting disappointed if it isn't.

If he's been linked to Swansea, Coventry and Sunderland, no danger we can afford him.

I’ve already got his name on the back of a shirt

Hibernian Verse
27-07-2023, 12:25 PM
It’s a shame Fish will be away in January to a higher level but seems we have a coherent plan with Harbottle hopefully ready to step in.

Lago
27-07-2023, 12:36 PM
Agreed, but I think that's only insurance.
My fingers are crossed 🤞

tug.lismore
27-07-2023, 12:36 PM
Fish will play for Man United's first team in the future. A young English centre half? He's too expensive for Rangers already so wouldn't be concerned with that. Absolutely delighted he's back. We're now one striker way from having our best squad in years. Probably already do.Whoa there, are you saying that we are one signing away from having a complete squad and it is not even the end of July?

But, but our recruitment team are rubbish, the squad needs a complete overhaul, Hanlon and Stevenson are virtually pensioners (and ALF), other clubs squads are so much better, etc. Have I covered everything?

What will we talk about in August if all our transfers are done?

Actually think that, if we sign a striker soon, then you will see a bit of movement in the squad players and maybe a few loanees coming in on a try before you buy basis. Has worked well with Youan.

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MWHIBBIES
27-07-2023, 12:48 PM
Whoa there, are you saying that we are one signing away from having a complete squad and it is not even the end of July?

But, but our recruitment team are rubbish, the squad needs a complete overhaul, Hanlon and Stevenson are virtually pensioners (and ALF), other clubs squads are so much better, etc. Have I covered everything?

What will we talk about in August if all our transfers are done?

Actually think that, if we sign a striker soon, then you will see a bit of movement in the squad players and maybe a few loanees coming in on a try before you buy basis. Has worked well with Youan.

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Those things will still be said if we're pish to start this season. It's the quality of recruit that matters, not how quickly we signed them.

superfurryhibby
27-07-2023, 12:56 PM
The signing of Fish really has to be congratulated. It says a lot about his eagerness to be here, Utd's willingness to do what's best for their young player and Hibs of course for persevering and doing the business,

I can't help thinking, all being well with Obita, Miller, Newell and Boyle, that if we get a good striker in, then we can buckle up for a really strong start to our season and a good campaign overall. Key signings are being made, the club recognises the need for guys ready to compete for a first team place.

There are still lots of imponderables, and no doubt comings and goings but I'm feeling pretty optimistic. Of course we need a main striker in and we need to see if Levitt can impose himself and deliver the cutting edge and quality that midfield needs, but things are shaping up very nicely.

The club are competing in a tight market, we play the canny game and sell our unique assets to players, we aim to sign better quality than perhaps our budget suggests we might.

malcky
27-07-2023, 01:07 PM
We regularly read of loans players possibly being recalled by their parent club - we talk about it with players we loan out.

My guess is that it's the norm. Not worried by Man U being able to review things, seems like good old fashioned common sense to me.

Glad he's here. Being concerned about a player leaving on the day he signs for us seems a tad premature!

I agree with you, don’t see why they had to put in the bit about things being reassessed in January though when they could do it anyway.

CapitalGreen
27-07-2023, 01:20 PM
I agree with you, don’t see why they had to put in the bit about things being reassessed in January though when they could do it anyway.

International loans can’t be unilaterally cancelled. For Fish to be recalled by Man Utd we would need to agree to it. That’ll be why a review has been mentioned. I think in reality, this will be done as 2 separate loans, one to January and one from January to May which would allow Man Utd to take him back in January without requiring our permission.

weecounty hibby
27-07-2023, 01:43 PM
Now Fish has signed we're all agreed right? Scottish Cup and Conference League double?
I'm sick of this negativity!! Scottish domestic treble and just running out of steam in Europe, losing in pens in the final is my conservative estimate

Springbank
27-07-2023, 02:54 PM
Google translate of https://www.soccernews.nl/news/roda-jc-legt-zauner-vast-transfergesprekken-vente-verlopen-positief/

Hoping Hibs admin goes for an Ace Vent-ura signing reveal if that one happens

1875godsgift
27-07-2023, 03:20 PM
I’ve already got his name on the back of a shirt


I've got Jizz on the back of mine.

HendoDelivered
27-07-2023, 03:46 PM
https://www.limburger.nl/cnt/dmf20230727_95512534


Kerkrade - Roda striker Dylan Vente makes a transfer to the Scottish Hibernian FC. It is unknown what transfer fee is involved in the transfer of the 24-year-old attacker.

Vente still had a contract in Kerkrade until mid-2024. The transfer is expected to be completed after the weekend.
The striker was taken over by Roda two and a half years ago and scored a total of 51 goals for the Kerkrade residents. In the last year and a half, in particular, he has been on target. Last season he was second on the top scorers list of the first division with 21 hits in a further disappointing season for Roda.

GloryGlory
27-07-2023, 03:56 PM
https://www.limburger.nl/cnt/dmf20230727_95512534


Kerkrade - Roda striker Dylan Vente makes a transfer to the Scottish Hibernian FC. It is unknown what transfer fee is involved in the transfer of the 24-year-old attacker.

Vente still had a contract in Kerkrade until mid-2024. The transfer is expected to be completed after the weekend.
The striker was taken over by Roda two and a half years ago and scored a total of 51 goals for the Kerkrade residents. In the last year and a half, in particular, he has been on target. Last season he was second on the top scorers list of the first division with 21 hits in a further disappointing season for Roda.

Hope this is true, because by the look of that first half in Andorra we desperately need something from somewhere.

Unseen work
27-07-2023, 03:57 PM
https://www.limburger.nl/cnt/dmf20230727_95512534


Kerkrade - Roda striker Dylan Vente makes a transfer to the Scottish Hibernian FC. It is unknown what transfer fee is involved in the transfer of the 24-year-old attacker.

Vente still had a contract in Kerkrade until mid-2024. The transfer is expected to be completed after the weekend.
The striker was taken over by Roda two and a half years ago and scored a total of 51 goals for the Kerkrade residents. In the last year and a half, in particular, he has been on target. Last season he was second on the top scorers list of the first division with 21 hits in a further disappointing season for Roda.

👍🏻

SaulGoodman
27-07-2023, 04:00 PM
https://www.limburger.nl/cnt/dmf20230727_95512534


Kerkrade - Roda striker Dylan Vente makes a transfer to the Scottish Hibernian FC. It is unknown what transfer fee is involved in the transfer of the 24-year-old attacker.

Vente still had a contract in Kerkrade until mid-2024. The transfer is expected to be completed after the weekend.
The striker was taken over by Roda two and a half years ago and scored a total of 51 goals for the Kerkrade residents. In the last year and a half, in particular, he has been on target. Last season he was second on the top scorers list of the first division with 21 hits in a further disappointing season for Roda.

That’s certainly cheered me up slightly after that first half

Argylehibby
27-07-2023, 04:07 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylan_Vente

Callum_62
27-07-2023, 04:12 PM
I still can't believe this

Lee Johnson said he was happy with what we had for the first few games

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Springbank
27-07-2023, 04:33 PM
Marshall finished
Stevenson finished

Jpdhfc
27-07-2023, 04:34 PM
Marshall finished
Stevenson finished
Correct

Stairway 2 7
27-07-2023, 04:38 PM
Marshall finished
Stevenson finished

Undoubtedly

JamesHFC
27-07-2023, 04:45 PM
Vente be having second thoughts.

Chorley Hibee
27-07-2023, 04:48 PM
So do people still belive we're only a centre-forward away?

Miles away from the required standard.

Tambo
27-07-2023, 04:49 PM
Going off today's game.

Another game we have struggled to break down a team and rely on Youan.

If we don't get someone in then it will just be another season of pass it about the back untill it reaches either Youan or Boyle.

No doubt this is a major threat in any football match, I just feel we struggle to break down teams through the middle and at times we are so predictable.

Throw in the Defence and Striker problem shows we still need to add players. Fish should make us stronger and Harbottle could have any kind of season as we need to see more of him.

overdrive
27-07-2023, 04:50 PM
Two strikers
Left back
Right back
At least one more centre half
Two midfielders
Winger

Minimum needed. Probably a goalkeeper too if Marshall is deemed to be better than Wollacot.

Vault Boy
27-07-2023, 04:57 PM
It’s ridiculously early to be judging, and I’m definitely tilted, but l’ll be very surprised if ALF is the answer to any meaningful question for us this year.

overdrive
27-07-2023, 04:58 PM
It’s ridiculously early to be judging, and I’m definitely tilted, but l’ll be very surprised if ALF is the answer to any meaningful question for us this year.

He’s past it.

Edit: and it’s really worrying if our DoF thinks he’s of the required standard.

makaveli1875
27-07-2023, 05:00 PM
Two strikers
Left back
Right back
At least one more centre half
Two midfielders
Winger

Minimum needed. Probably a goalkeeper too if Marshall is deemed to be better than Wollacot.

Add a striker to that list

Unseen work
27-07-2023, 05:02 PM
Lacking creativity for the 18th month in a row.

bingo70
27-07-2023, 05:05 PM
Lacking creativity for the 18th month in a row.

I didn’t see much of todays game but as a more general point, I’m really surprised we’ve signed a creative midfielder in Levitt and playing him deep. I know the whole quarterback stuff, I just don’t agree with it.

Get creative players up the park and creating things where we cause them problems.

Hibs90
27-07-2023, 05:11 PM
https://twitter.com/VI_nl/status/1684602531039543305?s=20

I'm not sure if it's a trusted source or not.

Apparently paying 900k in Euros on a three year deal.

Translation:

Roda JC has reached an agreement with Scottish side Hibernian FC on the transfer of Dylan Vente. The Scots pay the top price for the striker, who was stuck in Kerkrade for one year.

Roda JC takes the top prize: Vente to Scotland for three years

Hibernian is reportedly paying around 900,000 euros for Vente. That's the top prize, because otherwise he would walk out the door transfer-free next year. Both Roda and Vente were therefore open to a transfer. Roda announced earlier this week that Vente was kept on the sidelines so he could complete a switch. Almost all Championship clubs have been linked to him, but now it is clear that Hibernian has won the battle. Vente signs in Scotland for three seasons.

Vente accounted for 21 goals and six assists in the Kitchen Champion Division last season. That is why there was interest in him from several countries, including from the Eredivisie, but not all clubs could or wanted to meet the asking price, which was a lot higher at the time because Vente's contract ran longer.

SaulGoodman
27-07-2023, 05:13 PM
I didn’t see much of todays game but as a more general point, I’m really surprised we’ve signed a creative midfielder in Levitt and playing him deep. I know the whole quarterback stuff, I just don’t agree with it.

Get creative players up the park and creating things where we cause them problems.

It’s all a bit Hibs tbh. Sign a decent creative midfielder, play him in holding midfield and then sub him off at HT to play the same 3 players that have already proven not to work well together.

Dmas
27-07-2023, 05:19 PM
https://twitter.com/VI_nl/status/1684602531039543305?s=20

I'm not sure if it's a trusted source or not.

Apparently paying 900k in Euros on a three year deal.

Translation:

Roda JC has reached an agreement with Scottish side Hibernian FC on the transfer of Dylan Vente. The Scots pay the top price for the striker, who was stuck in Kerkrade for one year.

Roda JC takes the top prize: Vente to Scotland for three years

Hibernian is reportedly paying around 900,000 euros for Vente. That's the top prize, because otherwise he would walk out the door transfer-free next year. Both Roda and Vente were therefore open to a transfer. Roda announced earlier this week that Vente was kept on the sidelines so he could complete a switch. Almost all Championship clubs have been linked to him, but now it is clear that Hibernian has won the battle. Vente signs in Scotland for three seasons.

Vente accounted for 21 goals and six assists in the Kitchen Champion Division last season. That is why there was interest in him from several countries, including from the Eredivisie, but not all clubs could or wanted to meet the asking price, which was a lot higher at the time because Vente's contract ran longer.

EEN also running with it, coached last year by Edwin de Graaf seemingly

eastmainsmsh
27-07-2023, 05:19 PM
Levitt might be decent but he was in a side that got relegated
He didn’t stand out in Groningen game
Hopefully he is played in correct position

Unseen work
27-07-2023, 05:20 PM
I didn’t see much of todays game but as a more general point, I’m really surprised we’ve signed a creative midfielder in Levitt and playing him deep. I know the whole quarterback stuff, I just don’t agree with it.

Get creative players up the park and creating things where we cause them problems.

I agree, Levitt should be higher up the pitch imo

Green-Hibee-7
27-07-2023, 05:21 PM
It’s early days but Levitt in that holding role is not going to work. We are not good enough to hold onto the ball for prolonged periods of time, get turned over easily and will concede on the counter.

Callum_62
27-07-2023, 05:23 PM
Vente be having second thoughts.Same,.it's about £6 now for one!

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Johnny_Leith
27-07-2023, 05:24 PM
Levitt clearly likes to come deep and get on the ball. I don't think he's specifically being told to stay deep, he's that kind of player.

Northernhibee
27-07-2023, 05:24 PM
https://twitter.com/VI_nl/status/1684602531039543305?s=20

I'm not sure if it's a trusted source or not.

Apparently paying 900k in Euros on a three year deal.

Translation:

Roda JC has reached an agreement with Scottish side Hibernian FC on the transfer of Dylan Vente. The Scots pay the top price for the striker, who was stuck in Kerkrade for one year.

Roda JC takes the top prize: Vente to Scotland for three years

Hibernian is reportedly paying around 900,000 euros for Vente. That's the top prize, because otherwise he would walk out the door transfer-free next year. Both Roda and Vente were therefore open to a transfer. Roda announced earlier this week that Vente was kept on the sidelines so he could complete a switch. Almost all Championship clubs have been linked to him, but now it is clear that Hibernian has won the battle. Vente signs in Scotland for three seasons.

Vente accounted for 21 goals and six assists in the Kitchen Champion Division last season. That is why there was interest in him from several countries, including from the Eredivisie, but not all clubs could or wanted to meet the asking price, which was a lot higher at the time because Vente's contract ran longer.

It scares me that we're spending what is for us huge money, when our recruitment has been so poor recently.

Stuart93
27-07-2023, 05:25 PM
https://twitter.com/VI_nl/status/1684602531039543305?s=20

I'm not sure if it's a trusted source or not.

Apparently paying 900k in Euros on a three year deal.

Translation:

Roda JC has reached an agreement with Scottish side Hibernian FC on the transfer of Dylan Vente. The Scots pay the top price for the striker, who was stuck in Kerkrade for one year.

Roda JC takes the top prize: Vente to Scotland for three years

Hibernian is reportedly paying around 900,000 euros for Vente. That's the top prize, because otherwise he would walk out the door transfer-free next year. Both Roda and Vente were therefore open to a transfer. Roda announced earlier this week that Vente was kept on the sidelines so he could complete a switch. Almost all Championship clubs have been linked to him, but now it is clear that Hibernian has won the battle. Vente signs in Scotland for three seasons.

Vente accounted for 21 goals and six assists in the Kitchen Champion Division last season. That is why there was interest in him from several countries, including from the Eredivisie, but not all clubs could or wanted to meet the asking price, which was a lot higher at the time because Vente's contract ran longer.

The Twitter page that’s posted the article has 508,000 followers, I reckon it’s probably pretty reliable at that

GloryGlory
27-07-2023, 05:36 PM
https://twitter.com/VI_nl/status/1684602531039543305?s=20

I'm not sure if it's a trusted source or not.

Apparently paying 900k in Euros on a three year deal.

Translation:

Roda JC has reached an agreement with Scottish side Hibernian FC on the transfer of Dylan Vente. The Scots pay the top price for the striker, who was stuck in Kerkrade for one year.

Roda JC takes the top prize: Vente to Scotland for three years

Hibernian is reportedly paying around 900,000 euros for Vente. That's the top prize, because otherwise he would walk out the door transfer-free next year. Both Roda and Vente were therefore open to a transfer. Roda announced earlier this week that Vente was kept on the sidelines so he could complete a switch. Almost all Championship clubs have been linked to him, but now it is clear that Hibernian has won the battle. Vente signs in Scotland for three seasons.


Vente accounted for 21 goals and six assists in the Kitchen Champion Division last season. That is why there was interest in him from several countries, including from the Eredivisie, but not all clubs could or wanted to meet the asking price, which was a lot higher at the time because Vente's contract ran longer.

That's just over £770k - a big fee for Hibs and given the outlay I'm surprised it's only 3 years. If we're speculating to accumulate then he will need to be be sold in 18-24 months.

Alex Trager
27-07-2023, 05:39 PM
Aye, so a CF and a CM. At least.

Scweamimg. Scweamimg.

Aldo
27-07-2023, 05:47 PM
Aye, so a CF and a CM. At least.

Scweamimg. Scweamimg.

Myko and a CM

hibees 7062
27-07-2023, 05:51 PM
Sunderland linked to Dylan Vente two hours ago

JimBHibees
27-07-2023, 05:52 PM
It scares me that we're spending what is for us huge money, when our recruitment has been so poor recently.

Think it has been much better recently

GloryGlory
27-07-2023, 05:56 PM
Sunderland linked to Dylan Vente two hours ago

The earlier chatter seemed to be that work permit for the English Championship would be an issue, but not for the SPFL.

Callum_62
27-07-2023, 05:57 PM
That's massive money of true but he does have some scoring rate last few years

Him, youan and Levitt are all big outlays

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bingo70
27-07-2023, 05:58 PM
Sunderland linked to Dylan Vente two hours ago

Roda DoF has confirmed he’s not going to England

Unseen work
27-07-2023, 05:59 PM
That's massive money of true but he does have some scoring rate last few years

Him, youan and Levitt are all big outlays

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Yup, and the more we spend and better players we bring in the more pressure goes on Johnson to get results.

Don’t think the club will tolerate garbage like that today after the amount they’ve spent (and about to spend)

hibees 7062
27-07-2023, 06:00 PM
The earlier chatter seemed to be that work permit for the English Championship would be an issue, but not for the SPFL.

Finally something in our favour

badabing67
27-07-2023, 06:05 PM
That's just over £770k - a big fee for Hibs and given the outlay I'm surprised it's only 3 years. If we're speculating to accumulate then he will need to be be sold in 18-24 months.

I wonder how much Troyes were wanting for Kukharevych

SHODAN
27-07-2023, 06:10 PM
I wonder how much Troyes were wanting for Kukharevych

Twoyes as much as we were offering.

churchie16
27-07-2023, 06:10 PM
Sunderland linked to Dylan Vente two hours ago

Be the old agent trying to get a better deal for his player not a chance if Coventry or Sunderland want this guy he signs for hibs they will be using this story to get better wages between they two or too get the price out what it will be to secure him, this guy does simply not sign for hibs if championship clubs are in for him, wouldn’t get too excited

One Day Soon
27-07-2023, 06:12 PM
Two strikers
Left back
Right back
At least one more centre half
Two midfielders
Winger

Minimum needed. Probably a goalkeeper too if Marshall is deemed to be better than Wollacot.

You missed out manager. I suspect we need a new one of those too.

Hibees1973
27-07-2023, 06:17 PM
Can't fault the Gordon's on splashing out money on players, the pitch and the stadium.

Can blame Johnson and his recruitment team for today's display and the dross signed.

I feel very uncomfortable giving Johnson and his lot more money to spend.

Long term I'm concerned the debt Hibs are falling into.

WeeRussell
27-07-2023, 06:21 PM
Be the old agent trying to get a better deal for his player not a chance if Coventry or Sunderland want this guy he signs for hibs they will be using this story to get better wages between they two or too get the price out what it will be to secure him, this guy does simply not sign for hibs if championship clubs are in for him, wouldn’t get too excited

You’d think football clubs would cotton-on to this age old trick that a few hibs.net posters are wise to but never seems to actually happen.

Donegal Hibby
27-07-2023, 06:24 PM
Looks a good goalscorer Dylan Vente .
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/dylan-vente-to-hibs-easter-road-side-closing-in-on-move-for-51-goal-roda-jc-striker-4234987

007
27-07-2023, 06:36 PM
Can't fault the Gordon's on splashing out money on players, the pitch and the stadium.

Can blame Johnson and his recruitment team for today's display and the dross signed.

I feel very uncomfortable giving Johnson and his lot more money to spend.

Long term I'm concerned the debt Hibs are falling into.

How much is the debt?

Smartie
27-07-2023, 06:49 PM
So do people still belive we're only a centre-forward away?

Miles away from the required standard.

The midfield isn’t what it needs to be. RB is still a problem imo. The depth is pitiful and if we lose a few through injury, we’re in deep trouble ie having to rely on 5 or 6 of the players who featured tonight.

There are some who were poor tonight who I’m prepared to give the benefit of the doubt to, to write it off as a bad night.

But I do think that our first XI - on paper - is close to what it needs to be.

Smartie
27-07-2023, 06:51 PM
Levitt clearly likes to come deep and get on the ball. I don't think he's specifically being told to stay deep, he's that kind of player.

I think a lot of players like to be that player but if they know what’s good for them they’ll listen when someone tells them they’re not.

There’s still not a proper centre of midfield to be made out if our current players imo.

Col2
27-07-2023, 06:51 PM
I don’t think we can rate the squad based on that performance. Most of the players we know and are more than decent.

We were shocking today, exception Joe Newell.

thegaffer12
27-07-2023, 06:54 PM
https://youtu.be/MToDR18Nr90

Real Emerald
27-07-2023, 06:57 PM
The midfield isn’t what it needs to be. RB has a a problem imo. The depth is pitiful and if we lose a few through injury, we’re in deep trouble ie having to rely on 5 or 6 of the players who featured tonight.

There are some who were poor tonight who I’m prepared to give the benefit of the doubt to, to write it off as a bad night.

But I do think that our first XI - on paper - is close to what it needs to be.

I’m 100% with you on the right back situation, it feels like a forgotten subject on here but a good experienced right back is a must. Miller really doesn’t look like the answer at right back and I don’t think ever will. Megwa maybe given time, who knows. If we have any aspirations of improving then it’s a position we really need to look at too.

B.H.F.C
27-07-2023, 06:57 PM
So do people still belive we're only a centre-forward away?

Miles away from the required standard.

Players we have signed and/or weren’t available tonight was a bigger issue than players not signed IMO.

Although signing a goalie and continuing to play Marshall doesn’t say much for the goalie and/or Johnson.

Donegal Hibby
27-07-2023, 06:59 PM
Can't fault the Gordon's on splashing out money on players, the pitch and the stadium.

Can blame Johnson and his recruitment team for today's display and the dross signed.

I feel very uncomfortable giving Johnson and his lot more money to spend.

Long term I'm concerned the debt Hibs are falling into.
Some of you aren't that concerned about Hibs falling into debt as you have the football club changing the manager and staff after every bad result if you could get your way :rolleyes:

BSEJVT
27-07-2023, 07:06 PM
Vente reminds me of prime Leigh Griffith,hope rumours are true

number9dream
27-07-2023, 07:07 PM
I’m 100% with you on the right back situation, it feels like a forgotten subject on here but a good experienced right back is a must. Miller really doesn’t look like the answer at right back and I don’t think ever will. Megwa maybe given time, who knows. If we have any aspirations of improving then it’s a position we really need to look at too.

Ryan Strain for RB
New striker, someone that can drive us on in midfield.

JohnM1875
27-07-2023, 07:07 PM
Vente reminds me of prime Leigh Griffith,hope rumours are true

A ****ger?

The Modfather
27-07-2023, 07:08 PM
Some of you aren't that concerned about Hibs falling into debt as you have the football club changing the manager and staff after every bad result if you could get your way :rolleyes:

The opposite to your hyperbolic scenario is to then let every manager and player see out their contract regardless of what’s happening on the park as that’s the most financially prudent solution.

Callum_62
27-07-2023, 07:18 PM
A ****ger?Scores goals like LG scores burds

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WhileTheChief..
27-07-2023, 07:23 PM
The opposite to your hyperbolic scenario is to then let every manager and player see out their contract regardless of what’s happening on the park as that’s the most financially prudent solution.

Yup, let's stick with average players and manager, cause it's better than changing them, seems to be the best on offer.

If we had a better manager and players we'd have a better chance of doing better!

itslegaltender
27-07-2023, 07:32 PM
phenomenal signing. Well done to the Gordon family for continued investment. Looks like Myko is no longer though.

Bridge hibs
27-07-2023, 07:34 PM
phenomenal signing. Well done to the Gordon family for continued investment. Looks like Myko is no longer though.

Has he signed ?

Hibernian Verse
27-07-2023, 07:37 PM
Has he signed ?

Don’t think so yet. We could use some good news though and presumably as Fish has been put in the Euro squad this guy could too.

B.H.F.C
27-07-2023, 07:40 PM
Don’t think so yet. We could use some good news though and presumably as Fish has been put in the Euro squad this guy could too.

Fish was signed last week. If the Dutch boy is signed he won’t be able to play next week having not been registered for the first leg. He’ll also need a work permit so we’ll probably no see him for a few weeks.

scoopyboy
27-07-2023, 07:41 PM
Don’t think so yet. We could use some good news though and presumably as Fish has been put in the Euro squad this guy could too.

Can they play in the second leg though?

There used to be a rule that you couldn't play in the second leg of a tie if you weren't registered before the first leg.

I appreciate that rule may have changed.

scoopyboy
27-07-2023, 07:43 PM
Fish was signed last week. If the Dutch boy is signed he won’t be able to play next week having not been registered for the first leg. He’ll also need a work permit so we’ll probably no see him for a few weeks.

You sure about that?

Not sure he would have been able to play for Man Utd against Wrexham the other night if that was correct

overdrive
27-07-2023, 07:44 PM
Can they play in the second leg though?

There used to be a rule that you couldn't play in the second leg of a tie if you weren't registered before the first leg.

I appreciate that rule may have changed.

Fish can. He was registered for this round. Anyone signed between now and next week’s game isn’t.

Alex Trager
27-07-2023, 07:45 PM
Can't fault the Gordon's on splashing out money on players, the pitch and the stadium.

Can blame Johnson and his recruitment team for today's display and the dross signed.

I feel very uncomfortable giving Johnson and his lot more money to spend.

Long term I'm concerned the debt Hibs are falling into.

Are they ( the gordon’s) spending the money or are they loaning it against the club?

Hibernian Verse
27-07-2023, 07:45 PM
Can they play in the second leg though?

There used to be a rule that you couldn't play in the second leg of a tie if you weren't registered before the first leg.

I appreciate that rule may have changed.

Fish can. Not sure about this lad.

Real Emerald
27-07-2023, 07:46 PM
The opposite to your hyperbolic scenario is to then let every manager and player see out their contract regardless of what’s happening on the park as that’s the most financially prudent solution.

I once said to a good friend and now late Jambo during the Romanov years that it was all false, it would fall to bits and lead to a disaster. He said, I know but it’s the best time I’ve had at Tynecastle for 50 years. There’s a balance I know.

Since452
27-07-2023, 07:48 PM
Hanlon and Stevenson needed replaced a few years ago and here they are still contributing to some of the worst results in our history.

BoomtownHibees
27-07-2023, 07:54 PM
You sure about that?

Not sure he would have been able to play for Man Utd against Wrexham the other night if that was correct

Hibs tweeted this earlier:

“Before travelling out to Manchester United's training camp in the USA, Will stopped off at the Hibernian Training Centre to complete his medical, sign, and of course, meet the Club's photographers”

Seems strange him then travelling and playing for Man Utd

Real Emerald
27-07-2023, 07:55 PM
Hanlon and Stevenson needed replaced a few years ago and here they are still contributing to some of the worst results in our history.

Stevenson had a stinker tonight, Hanlon wasn’t the worst but at least they have some credit in the bank and have proved they at least were up to it in the past for us. I would say Melkerson, Alf, Marshall deserve a lot more criticism than those 2. Having said that it’s probably the worst I’ve ever seen Stevenson play.

B.H.F.C
27-07-2023, 07:56 PM
You sure about that?

Not sure he would have been able to play for Man Utd against Wrexham the other night if that was correct

Was Hibs that said it. We’ve had young players go away and train with other teams and play in bounce matches before so don’t suppose it’s too different to that.

Gmack7
27-07-2023, 07:58 PM
The back 5 were hopeless, midfield equally as crap and we were non existent up front, not the best combinations

007
27-07-2023, 08:00 PM
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/dylan-vente-makes-transfer-switch-27410255?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Though article probably just off the back of the tweet someone posted the link to a couple of pages ago.

WhileTheChief..
27-07-2023, 08:05 PM
A ****ger?

This post probably wasn't meant to look like it turned out.

Really hoping the first letter was a W and not an N :faf:

Donegal Hibby
27-07-2023, 08:08 PM
The opposite to your hyperbolic scenario is to then let every manager and player see out their contract regardless of what’s happening on the park as that’s the most financially prudent solution.

No though after a bad result in our first competitive game with another tie to come and still a very good chance to go through which I think we will is definitely the wrong time to do it imo.

Then again there does seem to be a pattern with some fans on here when we have a bad result were they just want the manager and other people at the club changed after a defeat . Last season I remember it was get rid of the current manager and appoint McInnes, Martindale , Malky Mackay or lennon.So far today it's Roy Keane and Jack Ross who's names have been mentioned .It wouldn't take the same fans long to turn on these either when we lost .

If LJ has us losing on a regular basis and we are struggling in the league than yes he should be replaced no question about it though after one game is ridiculous and a complete OTT reaction imo .

Though that's been the story all of last season too . Happy to back the team when we're winning though at the first sign of trouble some want heads to roll . Think it's quite sad TBH .

JohnM1875
27-07-2023, 08:10 PM
This post probably wasn't meant to look like it turned out.

Really hoping the first letter was a W and not an N :faf:

Haha! Started with Sha

Real Emerald
27-07-2023, 08:14 PM
No though after a bad result in our first competitive game with another tie to come and still a very good chance to go through which I think we will is definitely the wrong time to do it imo.

Then again there does seem to be a pattern with some fans on here when we have a bad result were they just want the manager and other people at the club changed after a defeat . Last season I remember it was get rid of the current manager and appoint McInnes, Martindale , Malky Mackay or lennon.So far today it's Roy Keane and Jack Ross who's names have been mentioned .It wouldn't take the same fans long to turn on these either when we lost .

If LJ has us losing on a regular basis and we are struggling in the league than yes he should be replaced no question about it though after one game is ridiculous and a complete OTT reaction imo .

Though that's been the story all of last season too . Happy to back the team when we're winning though at the first sign of trouble some want heads must roll . Think it's quite sad really TBH .

He said he wasn’t concerned over the first 3 or 4 games when he must have known how weak his team was. I’m not calling for his head as it must be difficult to get the right players in early and turn around the shambolic recruitment from the past season or so but he’s definitely got his coat on shougly peg if he doesn’t get through this round.

brog
27-07-2023, 08:17 PM
I didn’t see much of todays game but as a more general point, I’m really surprised we’ve signed a creative midfielder in Levitt and playing him deep. I know the whole quarterback stuff, I just don’t agree with it.

Get creative players up the park and creating things where we cause them problems.

I agree, I think everyone thought JDH would be our sitting player and DL our creator. I suspect LJ may be having 2nd thoughts now!

Paulie Walnuts
27-07-2023, 08:18 PM
No though after a bad result in our first competitive game with another tie to come and still a very good chance to go through which I think we will is definitely the wrong time to do it imo.

Then again there does seem to be a pattern with some fans on here when we have a bad result were they just want the manager and other people at the club changed after a defeat . Last season I remember it was get rid of the current manager and appoint McInnes, Martindale , Malky Mackay or lennon.So far today it's Roy Keane and Jack Ross who's names have been mentioned .It wouldn't take the same fans long to turn on these either when we lost .

If LJ has us losing on a regular basis and we are struggling in the league than yes he should be replaced no question about it though after one game is ridiculous and a complete OTT reaction imo .

Though that's been the story all of last season too . Happy to back the team when we're winning though at the first sign of trouble some want heads to roll . Think it's quite sad TBH .

Why do people keep referring to first game etc. This is his second season. The idea of him being sacked is being discussed because last season was also a failure, it’s not off the back of this one tie and nothing else.

Paulie Walnuts
27-07-2023, 08:19 PM
He said he wasn’t concerned over the first 3 or 4 games when he must have known how weak his team was. I’m not calling for his head as it must be difficult to get the right players in early and turn around the shambolic recruitment from the past season or so but he’s definitely got his coat on shougly peg if he doesn’t get through this round.

It should already be on a shoogly peg regardless of whether we get through. If we don’t go through he should be sacked immediately after Thursdays game.

CapitalGreen
27-07-2023, 08:22 PM
Stevenson had a stinker tonight, Hanlon wasn’t the worst but at least they have some credit in the bank and have proved they at least were up to it in the past for us. I would say Melkerson, Alf, Marshall deserve a lot more criticism than those 2. Having said that it’s probably the worst I’ve ever seen Stevenson play.

Melkerson was as poor as anyone but I wouldn’t say any young player being played out of position deserves heavy criticism The manager should receive the criticism for putting the player in that position, like Fish being played at RB at Tynie or Maloney playing Campbell as a DM.

brog
27-07-2023, 08:24 PM
Stevenson had a stinker tonight, Hanlon wasn’t the worst but at least they have some credit in the bank and have proved they at least were up to it in the past for us. I would say Melkerson, Alf, Marshall deserve a lot more criticism than those 2. Having said that it’s probably the worst I’ve ever seen Stevenson play.

A perfect summary for me.

SHODAN
27-07-2023, 08:26 PM
Hanlon and Stevenson needed replaced a few years ago and here they are still contributing to some of the worst results in our history.

That was Stevenson's first bad game in like, three years.

Chorley Hibee
27-07-2023, 08:33 PM
That was Stevenson's first bad game in like, three years.

Come on, that's utterly delusional to suggest that's Stevenson's only bad game in three years.

Greencore
27-07-2023, 08:35 PM
That was Stevenson's first bad game in like, three years.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Real Emerald
27-07-2023, 08:40 PM
Melkerson was as poor as anyone but I wouldn’t say any young player being played out of position deserves heavy criticism The manager should receive the criticism for putting the player in that position, like Fish being played at RB at Tynie or Maloney playing Campbell as a DM.

Melkerson had a great one on one chance through the middle and messed it up, all strikers do but at some point he has to grab his chance. Good players do. Didier Agathe was brilliant for us as a centre forward, Celtic stole him, made him play right back and he was sensational. You don’t get too many chances at this level, you have to make the most of the ones you get.

CapitalGreen
27-07-2023, 08:47 PM
Melkerson had a great one on one chance through the middle and messed it up, all strikers do but at some point he has to grab his chance. Good players do. Didier Agathe was brilliant for us as a centre forward, Celtic stole him, made him play right back and he was sensational. You don’t get too many chances at this level, you have to make the most of the ones you get.

Agathe was 25 plus he had spent the majority of his career playing right midfield/wing. He only started playing as a striker after joining Raith Rovers. The majority of the games he played under O’Neill was as a right wing back in a 3-5-2 so hardly a massive change for him.

Unseen work
27-07-2023, 08:50 PM
Melkerson had a great one on one chance through the middle and messed it up, all strikers do but at some point he has to grab his chance. Good players do. Didier Agathe was brilliant for us as a centre forward, Celtic stole him, made him play right back and he was sensational. You don’t get too many chances at this level, you have to make the most of the ones you get.

Tbf I do get your point, the really good players that deserve force themselves in.

Fish was completely wrote off however took his chance when he got it.

Newell and Doidge played themselves into it.

Melkersen must not be showing enough in training to get much chance through the middle, and even when he does there’s little impact. He rarely manages to get a shot off never mind score.

Solonleith1
27-07-2023, 08:55 PM
Out of interest, does anybody know if Laidlaw signed for anybody yet? Saw he was close to signing for Watford but then no update.

Donegal Hibby
27-07-2023, 09:11 PM
He said he wasn’t concerned over the first 3 or 4 games when he must have known how weak his team was. I’m not calling for his head as it must be difficult to get the right players in early and turn around the shambolic recruitment from the past season or so but he’s definitely got his coat on shougly peg if he doesn’t get through this round.
I honestly think we will win the 2nd leg comfortably at ER TBH mate 👍

CockneyRebel
27-07-2023, 09:14 PM
Out of interest, does anybody know if Laidlaw signed for anybody yet? Saw he was close to signing for Watford but then no update.


Brentford

Real Emerald
27-07-2023, 09:32 PM
I honestly think we will win the 2nd leg comfortably at ER TBH mate 👍

So do I but that was embarrassing. I’m looking forward to it. 👍

Donegal Hibby
27-07-2023, 09:35 PM
Why do people keep referring to first game etc. This is his second season. The idea of him being sacked is being discussed because last season was also a failure, it’s not off the back of this one tie and nothing else.

Last season we knew or some of us did that the team wasn't good enough and any manager would need time to turn things around with him having players signed by two previous manager's that lost there jobs . This is basically is first season in what you can say is his team .

It was discussed last season him being sacked . Some if they had there wish at the time we would now have Martindale or Malky Mackay as our manager which would a downgrade on our current manager imo . Was last season a failure ? I thought we turned it around quite well and qualified for Europe and improved our league position from the previous year by 3 places .

It is very much on the back of our tie today from the usual pant wetters even though there's every chance we will turn this around and go through though some just seem to like a crisis 😂

Dmas
27-07-2023, 09:35 PM
Tbf I do get your point, the really good players that deserve force themselves in.

Fish was completely wrote off however took his chance when he got it.

Newell and Doidge played themselves into it.

Melkersen must not be showing enough in training to get much chance through the middle, and even when he does there’s little impact. He rarely manages to get a shot off never mind score.

He’s not suited to the game here, it looked a master stroke sending him to Dutch league last season but he obviously didn’t impress there either, it’s unfortunate for the guy that day at fir park I’m sure we all thought that was him off and running but he’s needing let go so we can get a player in who can contribute to the team same goes for Henderson, Jair and Delferierre

Since452
27-07-2023, 09:56 PM
I honestly think we will win the 2nd leg comfortably at ER TBH mate 👍

So do I

007
27-07-2023, 09:58 PM
So do I

Think we'll get through but not so sure it will be comfortable, unless we get an early goal.

MikeyS
27-07-2023, 10:02 PM
Last season we knew or some of us did that the team wasn't good enough and any manager would need time to turn things around with him having players signed by two previous manager's that lost there jobs . This is basically is first season in what you can say is his team .

It was discussed last season him being sacked . Some if they had there wish at the time we would now have Martindale or Malky Mackay as our manager which would a downgrade on our current manager imo . Was last season a failure ? I thought we turned it around quite well and qualified for Europe and improved our league position from the previous year by 3 places .

It is very much on the back of our tie today from the usual pant wetters even though there's every chance we will turn this around and go through though some just seem to like a crisis 😂

You talk some amount of pish! LJ was falling over himself to take credit on last summers signings then he did the same again with the January ones when bragging about his city group links. Think you are way off the mark with the "this is his 1st season with his team" chat.

K-Zazu
27-07-2023, 10:03 PM
Last season we knew or some of us did that the team wasn't good enough and any manager would need time to turn things around with him having players signed by two previous manager's that lost there jobs . This is basically is first season in what you can say is his team .

It was discussed last season him being sacked . Some if they had there wish at the time we would now have Martindale or Malky Mackay as our manager which would a downgrade on our current manager imo . Was last season a failure ? I thought we turned it around quite well and qualified for Europe and improved our league position from the previous year by 3 places .

It is very much on the back of our tie today from the usual pant wetters even though there's every chance we will turn this around and go through though some just seem to like a crisis 😂

What do u mean it’s his first season his team etc.. he was here last summer when we signed Jair, kenneh so last season was on him

MikeyS
27-07-2023, 10:05 PM
What do u mean it’s his first season his team etc.. he was here last summer when we signed Jair, kenneh so last season was on him

It's total nonsense 🤣

Real Emerald
27-07-2023, 10:15 PM
Agathe was 25 plus he had spent the majority of his career playing right midfield/wing. He only started playing as a striker after joining Raith Rovers. The majority of the games he played under O’Neill was as a right wing back in a 3-5-2 so hardly a massive change for him.

But regardless of his playing position he took his chance, first playing as a centre forward for Hibs which was not his normal position and then moving to right wing back for Celtic and starring in Europe. He came from nothing to take his chance regardless of his playing position, it was just an example of clutching the moment or forever losing it.

Nicho87
27-07-2023, 10:17 PM
Marshall
Delferrier
Henderson
Tavares

Mackay
Doidge

All free too go.

Unseen work
27-07-2023, 10:23 PM
Is Henderson still out injured?

I know a lot on here don’t rate him and think he’s inconsistent but a player like him is what we needed tonight.

If he’s moving on we need to get a similar type but better quality

CapitalGreen
27-07-2023, 10:28 PM
But regardless of his playing position he took his chance, first playing as a centre forward for Hibs which was not his normal position and then moving to right wing back for Celtic and starring in Europe. He came from nothing to take his chance regardless of his playing position, it was just an example of clutching the moment or forever losing it.

Well done to 25 year old Agathe for adapting, it doesn’t really change my opinion that a young player deserves heavy criticism for performances when they are being played in a position they’re not suited. Agathe suited his new role, Melkersen clearly doesn’t and however much he clutches the moment or whatever won’t change that. The manager had a winger on the bench who he should have played on the wing.

CapitalGreen
27-07-2023, 10:28 PM
Is Henderson still out injured?

I know a lot on here don’t rate him and think he’s inconsistent but a player like him is what we needed tonight.

If he’s moving on we need to get a similar type but better quality

Doesn’t appear to have travelled.

Nicho87
27-07-2023, 10:29 PM
Is Henderson still out injured?

I know a lot on here don’t rate him and think he’s inconsistent but a player like him is what we needed tonight.

If he’s moving on we need to get a similar type but better quality

Sorry but he would have hid tonight just like a good few others did

He’s had numerous chances and failed consistently

Time to move on to

tamig
27-07-2023, 10:35 PM
Marshall
Delferrier
Henderson
Tavares

Mackay
Doidge

All free too go.

Is this in your opinion or has it come from the club?

Real Emerald
27-07-2023, 10:39 PM
Well done to 25 year old Agathe for adapting, it doesn’t really change my opinion that a young player deserves heavy criticism for performances when they are being played in a position they’re not suited. Agathe suited his new role, Melkersen clearly doesn’t and however much he clutches the moment or whatever won’t change that. The manager had a winger on the bench who he should have played on the wing.

He absolutely doesn’t deserve heavy criticism just like Hanlon and Stevenson. My point is that both Hanlon and Stevenson have a bit of credit in the bank and can be somewhat forgiven for their bad performances, although Hanlon wasn’t that bad. I’m just pointing out that Melkerson amongst other have yet to have good performances for Hibs and he has had a lot of opportunities. I don’t dislike him and really hope he can shine but at some point he needs to clutch his opportunity or he should move on. I really hoped it would work.

Donegal Hibby
27-07-2023, 11:03 PM
You talk some amount of pish! LJ was falling over himself to take credit on last summers signings then he did the same again with the January ones when bragging about his city group links. Think you are way off the mark with the "this is his 1st season with his team" chat.

There was players in our team like Mitchell , Henderson, Magennis and Doidge in the team too that were signed before LJ and it was well stated from the club that the recruitment had failed and needed changed which is why Brian McDermott was appointed . We have cleared out alot of players and added over six signings so far with a few more to come in yet hopefully.

Whatever manager we had last year it wasn't really going to be his team probably till there was a clearout and the recruitment was sorted to provide better players that the manager wanted which is why I have the opinion that this year is more LJ team than last year

You don't have to agree with me on this which is fine as I didn't when some wanted LJ sacked and Martindale or Mackay appointed as they thought they were better managers who would improve us though I didn't come at them and tell them they were talking pish simply because I thought it would be a arrogant thing to do !

Cameron1875
27-07-2023, 11:08 PM
We punt Doidge and Melkerson last season and both seemed surplus to requirements. In the meantime we crack on and get a European spot after a pretty stressful 38 games of ups and downs.

First game in Europe after all that hard work, Johnson starts Melkerson then relies on Doidge to try save him.

Absolutely shocking from him starting a guy he clearly doesn't rate and a joke from the board to leave us this short of players. We've taken this tie far too lightly hoping we'll be fine for opening day of the league season and it's backfired.

New RB needed, CF urgently, and a decent back up to Boyle if he doesn't fancy Mackay as a player.

neil7908
27-07-2023, 11:36 PM
We punt Doidge and Melkerson last season and both seemed surplus to requirements. In the meantime we crack on and get a European spot after a pretty stressful 38 games of ups and downs.

First game in Europe after all that hard work, Johnson starts Melkerson then relies on Doidge to try save him.

Absolutely shocking from him starting a guy he clearly doesn't rate and a joke from the board to leave us this short of players. We've taken this tie far too lightly hoping we'll be fine for opening day of the league season and it's backfired.

New RB needed, CF urgently, and a decent back up to Boyle if he doesn't fancy Mackay as a player.

This. And it's also why I couldn't understand how many folk seemed so happy with our business.

We are haven't improved the team from last year. Like you say, the options we have outwith our first 11 have shown they are not good enough, yet we seem to think they will magically just get better with another spell on the bench.

Last summers recruitment and decision to give big contracts to guys like Doidge and Tavares has really cost us.

It's clear we need a big rebuild, and I suspect we ultimately can't do that as huge chunks of our budget and wage build is tied up on players that aren't good enough and won't get the same money elsewhere.

I was hopeful Levitt would add some dynamism to our midfield, and I am by no means writing him off, but it feels like he's done nothing to address the same midfield issues we've been discussing on here for years. Individually we hear that Campbell is worth millions, JDH is one of our best players etc but I think our options are extremely limited in games where we want to take it to the opposition and play on the front foot. Far too much similarity.

HIBERNIAN-0762
28-07-2023, 04:41 AM
We are close to signing forward Vente from Dutch club Roda for 700k according to Sky sports news

sleeping giant
28-07-2023, 04:42 AM
We are close to signing forward Vente from Dutch club Roda for 700k according to Sky sports news

Oooft

Tambo
28-07-2023, 05:23 AM
Keep Youan and Eventually Boyle quiet then we will struggle to break most teams down again this season.

No doubt these two will be a threat but I honestly still think something is needed through the centre.

Since452
28-07-2023, 05:32 AM
We are close to signing forward Vente from Dutch club Roda for 700k according to Sky sports news

Fair play to the board. We've never spent this kind of money in one window before.

flash
28-07-2023, 05:37 AM
Keep Youan and Eventually Boyle quiet then we will struggle to break most teams down again this season.

No doubt these two will be a threat but I honestly still think something is needed through the centre.

That's our two main attacking weapons.

Keep any teams star players quiet and they will struggle.

Winston Ingram
28-07-2023, 05:39 AM
That's our two main attacking weapons.

Keep any teams star players quiet and they will struggle.

This

Ozyhibby
28-07-2023, 05:40 AM
We are close to signing forward Vente from Dutch club Roda for 700k according to Sky sports news

Hope this happens, he looks decent.


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Tambo
28-07-2023, 05:41 AM
That's our two main attacking weapons.

Keep any teams star players quiet and they will struggle.

I have said these two will be a threat, it was more the fact that it's so predictable for team's to play against us.

Again yesterday showed that we needed something through the middle and we don't have that.

Winston Ingram
28-07-2023, 05:42 AM
What do u mean it’s his first season his team etc.. he was here last summer when we signed Jair, kenneh so last season was on him

They were club signings and agreed before he got here.

GloryGlory
28-07-2023, 06:11 AM
Marshall
Delferrier
Henderson
Tavares

Mackay
Doidge

All free too go.

If Hibs decided to do that it would cost a huge amount to pay them off. Our best hope is 1) someone wants to take a punt on them and Hibs are easy to deal with, or 2) we can negotiate loan deals and/or 3) the player is willing to go along with it.

neil7908
28-07-2023, 06:11 AM
I have said these two will be a threat, it was more the fact that it's so predictable for team's to play against us.

Again yesterday showed that we needed something through the middle and we don't have that.

I think you are right. I am desperate for us to get a forward as we all are but we need a goalscoring midfielder. There are so many games where teams sit in against us and I find our midfield far too defensive. Campbell got a few last season but I'm not sure about him. Out of Jeggo, JDH and Newell we are struggling for firepower.

GloryGlory
28-07-2023, 06:13 AM
There was players in our team like Mitchell , Henderson, Magennis and Doidge in the team too that were signed before LJ and it was well stated from the club that the recruitment had failed and needed changed which is why Brian McDermott was appointed . We have cleared out alot of players and added over six signings so far with a few more to come in yet hopefully.

Whatever manager we had last year it wasn't really going to be his team probably till there was a clearout and the recruitment was sorted to provide better players that the manager wanted which is why I have the opinion that this year is more LJ team than last year

You don't have to agree with me on this which is fine as I didn't when some wanted LJ sacked and Martindale or Mackay appointed as they thought they were better managers who would improve us though I didn't come at them and tell them they were talking pish simply because I thought it would be a arrogant thing to do !

Once we get the Dutch forward in the door, the rest would I think be dependent on shipping some bodies out. So a not a given if any player deemed surplus to requirements decides to sit it out rather than move on.

flash
28-07-2023, 06:14 AM
I have said these two will be a threat, it was more the fact that it's so predictable for team's to play against us.

Again yesterday showed that we needed something through the middle and we don't have that.

That's hopefully where our new Dutch striker will come in.

GloryGlory
28-07-2023, 06:17 AM
Brentford

So Hibs should be due a bit of cash as a development fee.

Gmack7
28-07-2023, 06:18 AM
I think you are right. I am desperate for us to get a forward as we all are but we need a goalscoring midfielder. There are so many games where teams sit in against us and I find our midfield far too defensive. Campbell got a few last season but I'm not sure about him. Out of Jeggo, JDH and Newell we are struggling for firepower.
I thought Levitt was going to be our attacking/goal scoring midfielder, LJ seems to have him as the deepest midfielder

Clarence
28-07-2023, 06:19 AM
No Porteous, no Cadden, no Egan Riley, no Nisbet. We are definitely weaker than last year. Granted we have Fish who goes some way to replace Porteous but we are severely lacking in quality elsewhere.

Since452
28-07-2023, 06:24 AM
No Porteous, no Cadden, no Egan Riley, no Nisbet. We are definitely weaker than last year. Granted we have Fish who goes some way to replace Porteous but we are severely lacking in quality elsewhere.

I'd remove Porteous from that list. He was woeful in the LC group stage games last season and poor in the league.

Stokesy's on fire
28-07-2023, 06:28 AM
No Porteous, no Cadden, no Egan Riley, no Nisbet. We are definitely weaker than last year. Granted we have Fish who goes some way to replace Porteous but we are severely lacking in quality elsewhere.

I absolutely agree with this.

CapitalGreen
28-07-2023, 06:35 AM
I'd remove Porteous from that list. He was woeful in the LC group stage games last season and poor in the league.

He’d be a huge improvement on Rocky.

sauzeelegod
28-07-2023, 06:37 AM
I thought Levitt was going to be our attacking/goal scoring midfielder, LJ seems to have him as the deepest midfielder

Yeah I’m completely puzzled with this too.
Everything I read or hear about Levitt indicates he’s better further forward yet we seem hell bent on playing him deep.

BILLYHIBS
28-07-2023, 06:52 AM
Yeah I’m completely puzzled with this too.
Everything I read or hear about Levitt indicates he’s better further forward yet we seem hell bent on playing him deep.

Just don’t get this LJ’s tactics and ideas defy logic

Levitt had his best season for United playing further forward scoring a barrow load

He is a 10 FFS !

The fact he got hooked at halftime tells you all you need to know barely noticed him

Jones28
28-07-2023, 06:56 AM
Just don’t get this LJ’s tactics and ideas defy logic

Levitt had his best season for United playing further forward scoring a barrow load

He is a 10 FFS !

The fact he got hooked at halftime tells you all you need to know barely noticed him

I thought he was anonymous at best. Seemed to be nowhere near the ball.

Please get Vente over the line Hibs, ALF and Doidge are not the answer without some real quality to back them up.

hibee1875
28-07-2023, 07:00 AM
Keep Youan and Eventually Boyle quiet then we will struggle to break most teams down again this season.

No doubt these two will be a threat but I honestly still think something is needed through the centre.

How do teams keep two players on the pitch quiet again once?

They can’t double up on them both

Scooter
28-07-2023, 07:01 AM
Just don’t get this LJ’s tactics and ideas defy logic

Levitt had his best season for United playing further forward scoring a barrow load

He is a 10 FFS !

The fact he got hooked at halftime tells you all you need to know barely noticed him


I hope there's a Youan moment with Johnson and Levitt. Early last season LJ was adamant about playing Youan as a main striker it wasn't until he finally started playing him out wide again where he started to flourish.

Going by what UTD fans have said and what we've seen so far Levitt isn't a sitting midfielder

MWHIBBIES
28-07-2023, 07:01 AM
How do teams keep two players on the pitch quiet again once?

They can’t double up on them both

They certainly can.

Callum_62
28-07-2023, 07:04 AM
Just don’t get this LJ’s tactics and ideas defy logic

Levitt had his best season for United playing further forward scoring a barrow load

He is a 10 FFS !

The fact he got hooked at halftime tells you all you need to know barely noticed himI said this before but the Twitter post by someone on here showed Levitt has never played as a 10 for Utd before

He's a 6 that likes getting the ball deep and drifting forward

Misconception amongst many (me included btw) that he was a Scott allan type player

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Bridge hibs
28-07-2023, 07:10 AM
I said this before but the Twitter post by someone on here showed Levitt has never played as a 10 for Utd before

He's a 6 that likes getting the ball deep and drifting forward

Misconception amongst many (me included btw) that he was a Scott allan type player

Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using TapatalkGood read here about his playing style

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/article/dylan-levitt-at-dundee-united-202122-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics

Brightside
28-07-2023, 07:11 AM
I said this before but the Twitter post by someone on here showed Levitt has never played as a 10 for Utd before

He's a 6 that likes getting the ball deep and drifting forward

Misconception amongst many (me included btw) that he was a Scott allan type player

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Yep. And we didn’t appear to do any of that last night. We had no confidence the play through the midfield. That’s worrying against such a poor team.

Cheshire Hibee
28-07-2023, 07:11 AM
I hope we can get this deal done

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/dylan-vente-makes-transfer-switch-27410255?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar


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Callum_62
28-07-2023, 07:12 AM
Yep. And we didn’t appear to do any of that last night. We had no confidence the play through the midfield. That’s worrying against such a poor team.Disagree

He got the ball deep

Blootererd it out the park, then drifted forward

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Stokesy's on fire
28-07-2023, 07:14 AM
Just don’t get this LJ’s tactics and ideas defy logic

Levitt had his best season for United playing further forward scoring a barrow load

He is a 10 FFS !

The fact he got hooked at halftime tells you all you need to know barely noticed him

He was hooked because he wasnt looking for space he spent his time on the pitch pretty much hiding from play.

JohnM1875
28-07-2023, 07:15 AM
I hope we can get this deal done

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/dylan-vente-makes-transfer-switch-27410255?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar


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If possible, I appreciate it's probably not, but after last nights result we should be rushing this through for a bit of good news

I'm sure everything is probably agreed but just need to do medical etc, but it's normal to worry another team will gazump us until it's announced.

Bridge hibs
28-07-2023, 07:18 AM
He was hooked because he wasnt looking for space he spent his time on the pitch pretty much hiding from play.

*****, he had plenty of the ball and didnt hide so stop making things up, he just didnt do much if anything positive when he had the ball but in fairness no-one did because they were all *****

LaMotta
28-07-2023, 07:20 AM
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I hope there's a Youan moment with Johnson and Levitt. Early last season LJ was adamant about playing Youan as a main striker it wasn't until he finally started playing him out wide again where he started to flourish.

Going by what UTD fans have said and what we've seen so far Levitt isn't a sitting midfielder

I think Youan actually had his best run of games for us playing as a striker in Feb/March when Nisbet was out for a while again.

Youan scored 5 goals in 5 games during that period, with a number of MOM performances before he eventually got that ludicrous red card at Celtic Park, which ended his time playing through the middle.

He can definitely be useful as a main striker.

lucky
28-07-2023, 07:23 AM
I don't know if the Dutch striker will be any good or if he's even coming to Hibs but I bet the Gordon family must be thinking are we really going to allow Johnson to spend circa £700k on one player?

Stokesy's on fire
28-07-2023, 07:25 AM
*****, he had plenty of the ball and didnt hide so stop making things up, he just didnt do much if anything positive when he had the ball but in fairness no-one did because they were all *****

Levitt hardly touched the ball if he had plenty of the ball why was he taken off at HT? Lee Johnson clearly felt he wasnt playing well enough to make the 2nd half and thats because he wasnt getting involved even JDH stayed on ahead of him.

Jones28
28-07-2023, 07:27 AM
I don't know if the Dutch striker will be any good or if he's even coming to Hibs but I bet the Gordon family must be thinking are we really going to allow Johnson to spend circa £700k on one player?

It’s probably McDermott that’s actioning these kinds of transfers.

CockneyRebel
28-07-2023, 07:28 AM
So Hibs should be due a bit of cash as a development fee.

Yeah. I read two reports, one said £150k the other said £200k, but definitely some compensation due.

Callum_62
28-07-2023, 07:28 AM
I don't know if the Dutch striker will be any good or if he's even coming to Hibs but I bet the Gordon family must be thinking are we really going to allow Johnson to spend circa £700k on one player?I'm sure they are thinking they trust the structure they put in place for this season and are backing it

As they should

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GloryGlory
28-07-2023, 07:39 AM
I'm wondering if it is possible that the Dutch player Vente could play as a trialist at Blackpool tomorrow? Since his club seem to have accepted his offer, presumably they would give consent. I just don't know if there are any SFA/UEFA rules that would prevent it?

Jones28
28-07-2023, 07:42 AM
I'm sure they are thinking they trust the structure they put in place for this season and are backing it

As they should

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:agree:

Callum_62
28-07-2023, 07:42 AM
I'm wondering if it is possible that the Dutch player Vente could play as a trialist at Blackpool tomorrow? Since his club seem to have accepted his offer, presumably they would give consent. I just don't know if there are any SFA/UEFA rules that would prevent it?I very much doubt any in demand player is going to turn out for a potential new club as a trialist

This boy will likely break our transfer record and be due wages in line with that

He's not doing anything until everything is signed, sealed and delivered

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Allant1981
28-07-2023, 07:43 AM
Just don’t get this LJ’s tactics and ideas defy logic

Levitt had his best season for United playing further forward scoring a barrow load

He is a 10 FFS !

The fact he got hooked at halftime tells you all you need to know barely noticed him

Think you need to look at the amount of goals he scored, he certainly didn't score a barrow load, and he isn't a 10

GloryGlory
28-07-2023, 07:43 AM
Yeah. I read two reports, one said £150k the other said £200k, but definitely some compensation due.

All very helpful. I think if we get Vente over the line, that will be the Porteous and Nisbet money basically spent on bringing in Youan, Levitt and Vente. Don't know if we also paid fees for Obita and Wollacot - ISTR "undisclosed" at the time they signed. Unless we can ditch a few of the non performers like Henderson, Melkersen and Doidge I think that could be it for us this window, barring a loan or two.

MWHIBBIES
28-07-2023, 07:44 AM
I don't know if the Dutch striker will be any good or if he's even coming to Hibs but I bet the Gordon family must be thinking are we really going to allow Johnson to spend circa £700k on one player?

Eh, they hired him. They should be backing him. It's their fault if it goes wrong imo.

They hired Kensell, Johnson, McDermott. Everyone. I think that might be the real recruitment issue.

CapitalGreen
28-07-2023, 07:45 AM
It’s probably McDermott that’s actioning these kinds of transfers.

Transfer decisions aren’t being made by individuals alone.

GloryGlory
28-07-2023, 07:46 AM
I very much doubt any in demand player is going to turn out for a potential new club as a trialist

This boy will likely break our transfer record and be due wages in line with that

He's not doing anything until everything is signed, sealed and delivered

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It was just a thought - bit out there, I know. :greengrin I imagine it'll be mostly a reserve team with a scattering of players who didn't get on the pitch in Andorra (Boyle maybe get some minutes? Fish? Wollacot?).

HIBS NUTS
28-07-2023, 07:46 AM
I very much doubt any in demand player is going to turn out for a potential new club as a trialist

This boy will likely break our transfer record and be due wages in line with that

He's not doing anything until everything is signed, sealed and delivered

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My dutch mate says he’s very good, and he supports rodas main rivals.
Quite excited to get him in 🙏

BILLYHIBS
28-07-2023, 07:46 AM
Think you need to look at the amount of goals he scored, he certainly didn't score a barrow load, and he isn't a 10

Maybe not a 10 but needs to play further forward to create and add goals

Scored 11 in 62 appearances no too shabby from midfield

Bridge hibs
28-07-2023, 07:48 AM
Levitt hardly touched the ball if he had plenty of the ball why was he taken off at HT? Lee Johnson clearly felt he wasnt playing well enough to make the 2nd half and thats because he wasnt getting involved even JDH stayed on ahead of him.

I dont know, tactical, wanted us on the front foot more ? Im not the manager but from what I saw Levitt wasnt hiding, as I said previously he didnt do a lot when he had the ball and some of his passing was way off, even simple passes, but again, you could have said that about any of those players yesterday, 5 yard passes getting played out of the park, balls getting launched up the park at 100mph, it was chronic all round and not just by Levitt

Heisenberg
28-07-2023, 07:51 AM
Levitt had the ball plenty the issue was he kept giving it away.

Allant1981
28-07-2023, 07:55 AM
Maybe not a 10 but needs to play further forward to create and add goals

Scored 11 in 62 appearances no too shabby from midfield

Campbell scored almost that many in 1 season, Levitt is not a goal scorer so no point in getting your hopes up on that front, he doesn't create that many goals either. Got a couple of mates who watched him every week at utd and both agreed he is not that type of player

Stokesy's on fire
28-07-2023, 07:59 AM
Levitt had the ball plenty the issue was he kept giving it away.

The whole team seemed keen on giving the ball away or punting it out of play.

BILLYHIBS
28-07-2023, 08:03 AM
Campbell scored almost that many in 1 season, Levitt is not a goal scorer so no point in getting your hopes up on that front, he doesn't create that many goals either. Got a couple of mates who watched him every week at utd and both agreed he is not that type of player

Josh Campbell hasn’t scored 11 in his whole Hibs career

Strikes me that we have more than enough holding midfielders hiding in midfield giving the ball away as it is without adding another

Needs to improve

JimBHibees
28-07-2023, 08:06 AM
I dont know, tactical, wanted us on the front foot more ? Im not the manager but from what I saw Levitt wasnt hiding, as I said previously he didnt do a lot when he had the ball and some of his passing was way off, even simple passes, but again, you could have said that about any of those players yesterday, 5 yard passes getting played out of the park, balls getting launched up the park at 100mph, it was chronic all round and not just by Levitt

Personally was surprised he was taken off. Thought he at least showed for the ball and some of his early passes were quick and good.

04Sauzee
28-07-2023, 08:08 AM
Josh Campbell hasn’t scored 11 in his whole Hibs career

Strikes me that we have more than enough holding midfielders hiding in midfield giving the ball away as it is without adding another

Needs to improve

Josh Campbell has scored 11 goals in his Hibs career

Allant1981
28-07-2023, 08:11 AM
Josh Campbell hasn’t scored 11 in his whole Hibs career

Strikes me that we have more than enough holding midfielders hiding in midfield giving the ball away as it is without adding another

Needs to improve

You do realise I said almost, 10 is pretty close to 11 as you will know(9 last season), I'll go back to my original point, Levitt isn't the type of player you think he is, never has been

Jones28
28-07-2023, 08:11 AM
Transfer decisions aren’t being made by individuals alone.

McDermott is the one signing off on them no?

Greenworld
28-07-2023, 08:14 AM
We punt Doidge and Melkerson last season and both seemed surplus to requirements. In the meantime we crack on and get a European spot after a pretty stressful 38 games of ups and downs.

First game in Europe after all that hard work, Johnson starts Melkerson then relies on Doidge to try save him.

Absolutely shocking from him starting a guy he clearly doesn't rate and a joke from the board to leave us this short of players. We've taken this tie far too lightly hoping we'll be fine for opening day of the league season and it's backfired.

New RB needed, CF urgently, and a decent back up to Boyle if he doesn't fancy Mackay as a player.Very good point on doidge and melkerson ,what the manager is thinking is unexplainable both need moved on . Marshall needs replaced asap you cannot build a team with
Him in goals

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Since452
28-07-2023, 08:17 AM
If we're spending millions on players we really need to be looking at the European group stage. The owners/board are delivering. The manager and players need to as well. Starting Marshall and Melkersen is on the manager and i've been a big defender of him on here.

BILLYHIBS
28-07-2023, 08:18 AM
Josh Campbell has scored 11 goals in his Hibs career

10:59 all competitive games

www.fitbastats.com

Gmack7
28-07-2023, 08:19 AM
If we're spending millions on players we really need to be looking at the European group stage. The owners/board are delivering. The manager and players need to as well.

I'm sure we are, it'll be a big ask this season, but we should be right in the mix for 3rd in the coming season, and a fast start is vital for momentum

Heisenberg
28-07-2023, 08:20 AM
Very good point on doidge and melkerson ,what the manager is thinking is unexplainable both need moved on . Marshall needs replaced asap you cannot build a team with
Him in goals

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This is the issue though, we are still stuck with these players because of poor recruitment/contract decisions. Players won’t just leave if the offers don’t suit them and they have good contracts to sit on.

We’ve had loads of opportunity to properly replace Stevenson since Doig left but have failed with every signing we’ve made in that position. The latest attempt is injured and hasn’t had a pre season.

BoomtownHibees
28-07-2023, 08:22 AM
Josh Campbell has scored 11 goals in his Hibs career

10 goals in 78 appearances (according to Wiki)

BILLYHIBS
28-07-2023, 08:22 AM
You do realise I said almost, 10 is pretty close to 11 as you will know(9 last season), I'll go back to my original point, Levitt isn't the type of player you think he is, never has been

Needs to show more of his incisive through balls and goals as shown on his video reel

I now sadly appreciate he is not the player I and many others thought he was but I live in hope as he cost us a lot of money

Smartie
28-07-2023, 08:23 AM
This is the issue though, we are still stuck with these players because of poor recruitment/contract decisions. Players won’t just leave if the offers don’t suit them and they have good contracts to sit on.

We’ve had loads of opportunity to properly replace Stevenson since Doig left but have failed with every signing we’ve made in that position. The latest attempt is injured and hasn’t had a pre season.

Stevenson had a terrible afternoon but he’s one of the few I’d trust to bounce back from yesterday with a run of better games.

He deserves his appropriate share of criticism but not replaced imo.

EGL2000
28-07-2023, 08:23 AM
I said this before but the Twitter post by someone on here showed Levitt has never played as a 10 for Utd before

He's a 6 that likes getting the ball deep and drifting forward

Misconception amongst many (me included btw) that he was a Scott allan type player

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Yeah never played there for them. Think people just assume he did because of the goals he scored.

One Day Soon
28-07-2023, 08:24 AM
Very good point on doidge and melkerson ,what the manager is thinking is unexplainable both need moved on . Marshall needs replaced asap you cannot build a team with
Him in goals

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Wait, we fielded Doidge yesterday?!?!?!

Brightside
28-07-2023, 08:26 AM
Levitt had the ball plenty the issue was he kept giving it away.

In the first half he was pretty much ignored. We went across the back four then up the wing and gave it away. We didn't have the confidence to play through the middle.

Brightside
28-07-2023, 08:26 AM
Wait, we fielded Doidge yesterday?!?!?!

Doidge was just as good as ALF tbf.

Smartie
28-07-2023, 08:27 AM
Needs to show more of his incisive through balls and goals as shown on his video reel

I now sadly appreciate he is not the player I and many others thought he was but I live in hope as he cost us a lot of money

Who is he going to play a through ball to though? Youan wants the ball to feet to do step overs. No way Adam Le Fondre’s dad is making a pacy run in behind a defence. Melkersen I hear is good at making runs that nobody picks out, I don’t expect he’d do much if he got onto the end of it.

I don’t see any way how you get these players to work together and create chances, sort of hangs Levitt out to dry a bit.

BoomtownHibees
28-07-2023, 08:29 AM
Who is he going to play a through ball to though? Youan wants the ball to feet to do step overs. No way Adam Le Fondre’s dad is making a pacy run in behind a defence. Melkersen I hear is good at making runs that nobody picks out, I don’t expect he’d do much if he got onto the end of it.

I don’t see any way how you get these players to work together and create chances, sort of hangs Levitt out to dry a bit.

ALF is old enough, never mind his Dad

BILLYHIBS
28-07-2023, 08:30 AM
Who is he going to play a through ball to though? Youan wants the ball to feet to do step overs. No way Adam Le Fondre’s dad is making a pacy run in behind a defence. Melkersen I hear is good at making runs that nobody picks out, I don’t expect he’d do much if he got onto the end of it.

I don’t see any way how you get these players to work together and create chances, sort of hangs Levitt out to dry a bit.
The new Dutch superstar who can score all types of goals his specialty being running onto a neat defence splitting through pass 😀

The Modfather
28-07-2023, 08:32 AM
Stevenson had a terrible afternoon but he’s one of the few I’d trust to bounce back from yesterday with a run of better games.

He deserves his appropriate share of criticism but not replaced imo.

I think Stevenson benefits from low expectations and a career of good will in the bank. His bar for a good performance is no defensive mistakes and simple 5 yard passes IMO. A low bar others don’t have the benefit of. His limitations on the ball contribute to blunting us as a team IMO.