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Bostonhibby
05-06-2021, 12:17 PM
Christ there's being negative and there's being negative. The same folk drag every thread they comment on into a negative borefest.

Nobody is more negative than me when the time is right, but when in every point you want to argue, we've made progress yet it's still not enough unless we win something, well a lot of people are going to be depressed a very long time.

Instead of looking at the bigger picture, we have a lot of folk who cant let go any bad result we have to bring every thread down to their negativity.

If folk are depressed, then seek help a football forum where happiness is is probably not for them.

We are on an upward curve, my god we've had enough of the other option, if you cant be happy now watching Hibs build from a solid base, you never will be.[emoji106]

We are on an upward curve says it all for me, not happy about the cup defeat or the manner of it, doubt I ever will be but next season is another opportunity, going one step further on any front from last season would be excellent.

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madhatter
05-06-2021, 12:20 PM
What if the people posting negatively about negative posts are also doing so because they are depressed? Don't they need to vent too?

This genuinely might be the case with me sometimes, but i'm not using it as a justification, more to demonstrate that your point is a non-argument.

There is a simple fact that i keep coming back to - our support, and it's capacity for turning negative, has been weaponised against us in the past by other teams. Another team's manager (i think it was tommy wright) explicitly stated in a post-match interview that he set out his team to exploit this, and it worked.

If people are unwilling to reflect on this, i'd personally rather they buggered off and stopped helping our opponents...but fortunately for them, my preferences are of precisely zero significance, so they needn't worry :aok:

Is saying you dislike something in a relatively peaceful manner the same as calling people names and telling people to F off and stop supporting Hibs? I’ll let the nutters on Twitter know, let the abuse rain down on the social media person!

I keep going back to the same thing as well. Our support is like any other aspiring towards something. Do people think Hearts fans are giving each other high fives constantly or something? Are Aberdeen fans merry all year round? Are Kilmarnock fans understanding about their relegation? We are a media target, I’ll give you that, but I feel that’s because we’re an easier target than Celtic for a mocking. Look at who we’ve got in the media, might finally get peace from Levein now. Honestly, it’s like blaming fans for the 1902 stuff, which we still get even though we’ve won it recently.

Anyway, on to signings I hope.

madhatter
05-06-2021, 12:28 PM
Christ there's being negative and there's being negative. The same folk drag every thread they comment on into a negative borefest.

Nobody is more negative than me when the time is right, but when in every point you want to argue, we've made progress yet it's still not enough unless we win something, well a lot of people are going to be depressed a very long time.

Instead of looking at the bigger picture, we have a lot of folk who cant let go any bad result we have to bring every thread down to their negativity.

If folk are depressed, then seek help a football forum where happiness is is probably not for them.

We are on an upward curve, my god we've had enough of the other option, if you cant be happy now watching Hibs build from a solid base, you never will be.

What a depressingly negative post. Meet irony.

Oh FYI, I only responded in this thread because I saw personal insults from those who I assume to be from the positive camp. I’ve personally had enough of people using their own positivity and mindset as some sort of baseline and anybody who doesn’t meet it is “daft”, has “half a brain” or some other description.

Debate tends to become argument when these insults come out.

Anyway, any rumours?

The Modfather
05-06-2021, 12:29 PM
I think Mallan will go to an decent spfl team and be thier main man. They'll build a team around him, hard workers to cover his flaws, and he'll get double figures goals and assists.

This is where I am with Mallan. He’s someone who could really shine if the team was built to compliment him. He could look a stand out in that environment for an upper bottom 6 team or a lower top 6 team. I don’t think he’s good enough at the things he does well for a side aspiring to regularly challenge for top 3 or 4 to build a team/midfield around him though.

CapitalGreen
05-06-2021, 02:16 PM
All of our back 4 scored at least as many league goals as our top scoring midfield player last season. Regardless of Mallan's perceived failings I dont think there's any doubt he would have provided much more of a goal threat than our regular starters. I dont think you can play both Mallan & Allan together but i could see them alternating as starter & sub.

Martin Boyle was our top scoring midfield player last season.

MWHIBBIES
05-06-2021, 02:17 PM
All of our back 4 scored at least as many league goals as our top scoring midfield player last season. Regardless of Mallan's perceived failings I dont think there's any doubt he would have provided much more of a goal threat than our regular starters. I dont think you can play both Mallan & Allan together but i could see them alternating as starter & sub.

Allan is a much better player, so he wouldn't rotate with Mallan.

Goal threat is fine, but its not worth his weaknesses. If it was, he would've been playing.

tamig
05-06-2021, 02:48 PM
What kind of role did Mallan play when he was a main man for Jack Ross at St Mirren? What kind of players did he have alongside him that made him so effective?

Crab apple
05-06-2021, 03:06 PM
What kind of role did Mallan play when he was a main man for Jack Ross at St Mirren? What kind of players did he have alongside him that made him so effective?

Kenny McLean played alongside him for a time and was their top goalscorer in at least one season in the SPL.

MWHIBBIES
05-06-2021, 03:06 PM
What kind of role did Mallan play when he was a main man for Jack Ross at St Mirren? What kind of players did he have alongside him that made him so effective?

The opposition were championship players, thats why IMO.

CMurdoch
05-06-2021, 03:07 PM
Allan is a much better player, so he wouldn't rotate with Mallan.

Goal threat is fine, but its not worth his weaknesses. If it was, he would've been playing.

Is he? Hibs supporters have a blind spot re Scott Allan.
With almost 5 seasons to spare Mallan has already played more professional games than Allan which would suggest managers have always struggled to accomodate Scott's his talents in a team.

MWHIBBIES
05-06-2021, 03:12 PM
Is he? Hibs supporters have a blind spot re Scott Allan.
With almost 5 seasons to spare Mallan has already played more professional games than Allan which would suggest managers have always struggled to accomodate Scott's his talents in a team.

Yes, he is. Easily. Not a blind spot. Mallan has never reached the levels Allan has at Hibs. Simply a fact.

Bridge hibs
05-06-2021, 03:15 PM
The opposition were championship players, thats why IMO.You have a real dislike of Mallan dont you, Dan Mackay from Inverness has only played against Championship players, hope you give him more leeway

MWHIBBIES
05-06-2021, 03:17 PM
You have a real dislike of Mallan dont you, Dan Mackay from Inverness has only played against Championship players, hope you give him more leeway

I don't have a dislike of Mallan personally. I just do not rate him as a football at the level of Hibs.

Mackay is totally unrelated to this, no idea why you've mentioned him. Totally different scenarios.

Bridge hibs
05-06-2021, 03:23 PM
I don't have a dislike of Mallan personally. I just do not rate him as a football at the level of Hibs.

Mackay is totally unrelated to this, no idea why you've mentioned him. Totally different scenarios.Mallan only played against Championship sides, as has our recent new signing from a Championship side, it was in reference to your reply to another poster. I think Mallan earned his move and has done relatively well stepping up, as well as some experience with Sunderland. I like him and hopefully he still has a part to play at hibs

truehibernian
05-06-2021, 03:26 PM
My issue with Mallan is not his technical ability or skill as he has that in abundance. My main concern when he plays is his failure to impose himself on games, demand the ball, and dictate games - with the skill he has he could do, however he allows games to pass him by and is the stereotypical 'confidence player'. When confident he is a very good influencer, however he shrinks into his shell too often and (I think) lets mistakes linger too long in his head which leads him to be a little lost for periods in games. Watch some goals we concede when he plays and watch him switching off runners. He's almost 'too nice' as a player and if he stays next season, I want him to add some arrogance to his style of play (not allowing the crowd get to him), and be 100% concentrated.

He's a very good player, one of the best set piece and dead ball takers I've seen, but he needs to add things to his game I think inherently are not there and cannot easily be changed without a real change of mindset.

I still think he will be used as makeweight for a signing, but it will be interesting to see who we add in midfield - to provide much more balance and creativity - to see how he fits in to that area.

MWHIBBIES
05-06-2021, 03:31 PM
Mallan only played against Championship sides, as has our recent new signing from a Championship side, it was in reference to your reply to another poster. I think Mallan earned his move and has done relatively well stepping up, as well as some experience with Sunderland. I like him and hopefully he still has a part to play at hibs

Mallans best football was against Scottish championship sides. He has played a season in the English championship, and 2.5 years for Hibernian in the Scottish prem and 6 months in the top league in Turkey.

Mackay is very different.

CMurdoch
05-06-2021, 03:45 PM
Yes, he is. Easily. Not a blind spot. Mallan has never reached the levels Allan has at Hibs. Simply a fact.

Yet Mallan has played 40% more Premier League games for Hibs than Allan has
I believe both players are massively talented but also massively flawed.

BSEJVT
05-06-2021, 03:51 PM
Yes, he is. Easily. Not a blind spot. Mallan has never reached the levels Allan has at Hibs. Simply a fact.

It's not a fact though is it?

It is your opinion which is fine

I would argue that Mallan's first season reached the same heights or better as Allan's best

I suspect but don't know that he provided more goals also.

Sadly I think both of their best days in a Hibs shirt have come and gone.

brog
05-06-2021, 03:53 PM
Mallans best football was against Scottish championship sides. He has played a season in the English championship, and 2.5 years for Hibernian in the Scottish prem and 6 months in the top league in Turkey.

Mackay is very different.

Mallan was voted POTY by his peers 2 seasons ago in the top flight. You continually saying His best football was against championship sides doesn't make it correct.

Shrekko
05-06-2021, 03:58 PM
It's not a fact though is it?

It is your opinion which is fine

I would argue that Mallan's first season reached the same heights or better as Allan's best

I suspect but don't know that he provided more goals also.

Sadly I think both of their best days in a Hibs shirt have come and gone.

I think this is perfectly put.

I actually really like both players but quite simply Scott Allan’s face has always fitted with Hibs fans to the point he can get away with any poor performance whilst some have a fairly irrational dislike of Mallan- even when he was playing his best stuff.

To say it’s ‘fact’ that one is vastly better than the other is just pure nonsense.

I’d have loved if both had been available to us on cup final day - I will say that.

brog
05-06-2021, 04:04 PM
Martin Boyle was our top scoring midfield player last season.

Boyle started the season in a front 2 with Nisbet and scored 2 in the 1st game against Killie in that role. Latterly he played in a front 3, or at least every commentator & reporter made continual references to our free scoring front 3. There was a brief period mid season when he was played a little deeper, hardly featured at all & as usual many on here were calling for his head. Boyle's no more a midfield player than Arthur Duncan was.

MWHIBBIES
05-06-2021, 04:09 PM
Yet Mallan has played 40% more Premier League games for Hibs than Allan has
I believe both players are massively talented but also massively flawed.
I don't judge quality on games played, though.


It's not a fact though is it?

It is your opinion which is fine

I would argue that Mallan's first season reached the same heights or better as Allan's best

I suspect but don't know that he provided more goals also.

Sadly I think both of their best days in a Hibs shirt have come and gone.
It did not reach those heights. Mallan started really well. 2nd half the season he was poor/average. Allans 17/18 season was well better. Even Allans 19/20 was better IMO.


Mallan was voted POTY by his peers 2 seasons ago in the top flight. You continually saying His best football was against championship sides doesn't make it correct.

Yes, I know that doesn't make it correct. Its my opinion. He started very well at Hibs, but for the last 2 and a half years has offered very little.

brog
05-06-2021, 04:14 PM
I don't judge quality on games played, though.


It did not reach those heights. Mallan started really well. 2nd half the season he was poor/average. Allans 17/18 season was well better. Even Allans 19/20 was better IMO.



Yes, I know that doesn't make it correct. Its my opinion. He started very well at Hibs, but for the last 2 and a half years has offered very little.

That's hardly surprising given he's only started 18 league games in the last 2 seasons.

MWHIBBIES
05-06-2021, 04:15 PM
That's hardly surprising given he's only started 18 league games in the last 2 seasons.

Why is that, though? Injury has played a part. But I really don't think we've been worse without him.

GreenCastle
05-06-2021, 04:20 PM
Mallan was voted POTY by his peers 2 seasons ago in the top flight. You continually saying His best football was against championship sides doesn't make it correct.

This is what people forget - he was doing well with goals and assists then was injured for nearly 6 months!!!

The facts are that Mallan needs energy players around him plus players who can tackle.

Allan rarely plays 90 minutes.

Allan and Mallan can’t play in the same team.

Allan / Mallan and Newell definitely can’t play in the same team.

I like both of them and don’t want them to leave the club but we either have find a way to fit them into the team or they need to accept they will be squad players which I’m not sure they will want.

Both are game winners - Allans vision and Mallans shooting / set pieces. Definitely good options off the bench and if the game is close.

Billy Whizz
05-06-2021, 04:21 PM
When does the window actually open

Smartie
05-06-2021, 04:28 PM
Mallan only played against Championship sides, as has our recent new signing from a Championship side, it was in reference to your reply to another poster. I think Mallan earned his move and has done relatively well stepping up, as well as some experience with Sunderland. I like him and hopefully he still has a part to play at hibs

Mallan's had countless opportunities against Premier league opposition to stake an individual claim for a place in a functional midfield. He's not made enough of those opportunities and many of us have simply lost patience with him.

It's easy to look back on a favourite highlight - a free kick, a corner or cross or a pass we like - the problem we have is that when he plays we are all over the shop in midfield. We've scratched our heads trying to figure out what was different about the cup final that led to Hibs "not turning up" and the midfield being poor - the truth is, it was a bit of an aberration and the midfield has more often than not been up to the task. With Mallan in midfield that performance happens every week. He doesn't have the burst of pace to take a ball under pressure and move it on and the defensive side of his game is lamentable. There will be teams who will be prepared to built a team to accommodate this and make the most of his assets (a good shot) but those teams won't be top six SPFL standard.

Our new signing has never tested himself against top league opposition but he's done well enough at a lower to earn the right to play at higher level and deserves the same sort of opportunities Mallan has had, which have been ample.

Re Scott Allan. He was absolutely immense when he first joined under Stubbs. Played as big a role as anyone in turning round our on-field fortunes after the shambles that culminated in our relegation. When he came back under Lennon we did have to build a team to accommodate his weaknesses, a team we already pretty much in place - and for half a season we picked up the most points in the country. Many managers have struggled to find a way to get the best out of Allan and it looks like our pragmatic current manager is another one of those. As far as I'm concerned Mallan and Allan shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath in terms of how much they bring to a team, albeit they are both flawed players who need the team to be built around them. Mallan's whole time at Hibs has been in a team that is murdered in midfield - because he's part of it.


Last season was a good one but it was far from perfect. To improve we'll need to work on our weaknesses and we need to be prepared to experience robust debate on here regarding the relative merits of our players. We're coming at it from a strong position (a bit better than the Butcher days where you could reasonably say you couldn't care less if you never saw any of them in a Hibs jersey again) but need to accept some criticism of players we might quite like.

Mallan's had his chance. He's not good enough, and we need to move on and find players who are.

MWHIBBIES
05-06-2021, 04:32 PM
When does the window actually open

Doesn't really matter. We can sign players whenever. We've already signed one.

Vault Boy
05-06-2021, 04:34 PM
When does the window actually open

9th June - 31st August I believe.

Billy Whizz
05-06-2021, 04:37 PM
Doesn't really matter. We can sign players whenever. We've already signed one.

I just asked a question, but if an arrogant answer from you

Billy Whizz
05-06-2021, 04:37 PM
9th June - 31st August I believe.

Thanks, this is how posters should reply

Magpie
05-06-2021, 04:43 PM
Emi Buendia close to signing for Aston Villa from Norwich. Will be a decent signing for them.

MWHIBBIES
05-06-2021, 04:54 PM
I just asked a question, but if an arrogant answer from you


Thanks, this is how posters should reply

Sorry. Genuinely, I'd assumed there was a reason you were asking something that would be quicker to google.

My mistake.

Bridge hibs
05-06-2021, 05:03 PM
Mallan's had countless opportunities against Premier league opposition to stake an individual claim for a place in a functional midfield. He's not made enough of those opportunities and many of us have simply lost patience with him.

It's easy to look back on a favourite highlight - a free kick, a corner or cross or a pass we like - the problem we have is that when he plays we are all over the shop in midfield. We've scratched our heads trying to figure out what was different about the cup final that led to Hibs "not turning up" and the midfield being poor - the truth is, it was a bit of an aberration and the midfield has more often than not been up to the task. With Mallan in midfield that performance happens every week. He doesn't have the burst of pace to take a ball under pressure and move it on and the defensive side of his game is lamentable. There will be teams who will be prepared to built a team to accommodate this and make the most of his assets (a good shot) but those teams won't be top six SPFL standard.

Our new signing has never tested himself against top league opposition but he's done well enough at a lower to earn the right to play at higher level and deserves the same sort of opportunities Mallan has had, which have been ample.

Re Scott Allan. He was absolutely immense when he first joined under Stubbs. Played as big a role as anyone in turning round our on-field fortunes after the shambles that culminated in our relegation. When he came back under Lennon we did have to build a team to accommodate his weaknesses, a team we already pretty much in place - and for half a season we picked up the most points in the country. Many managers have struggled to find a way to get the best out of Allan and it looks like our pragmatic current manager is another one of those. As far as I'm concerned Mallan and Allan shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath in terms of how much they bring to a team, albeit they are both flawed players who need the team to be built around them. Mallan's whole time at Hibs has been in a team that is murdered in midfield - because he's part of it.


Last season was a good one but it was far from perfect. To improve we'll need to work on our weaknesses and we need to be prepared to experience robust debate on here regarding the relative merits of our players. We're coming at it from a strong position (a bit better than the Butcher days where you could reasonably say you couldn't care less if you never saw any of them in a Hibs jersey again) but need to accept some criticism of players we might quite like.

Mallan's had his chance. He's not good enough, and we need to move on and find players who are.Mallan has also done well in many games against SPL opposition, as well as below par performances. Looking at our current midfield custodians then I fail to see where he wouldnt fit in. Granted he is not a tackler/holding midfielder but I would be confident he would improve on Newall who Imo is far too passive, holds up play and specialises in passing sideways or holding play up, particularly if also playing Gogic in an enforcer/holding role. Mallan plays with a directness and has energy to burn, looking at our performance in the
cup final Mallan could more than contributed, we lacked thought, drive and insight, ifs and buts but I feel Mallan could have given us more a bit of an edge

04Sauzee
05-06-2021, 05:04 PM
Emi Buendia close to signing for Aston Villa from Norwich. Will be a decent signing for them.

Looks like a fantastic signing.

Billy Whizz
05-06-2021, 05:10 PM
Sorry. Genuinely, I'd assumed there was a reason you were asking something that would be quicker to google.

My mistake.

Ok no worries, appreciate your response, thanks

The Count
05-06-2021, 05:14 PM
Please please give me a transfer rumour all this drivial is boring.Less is best is a good tip for serial poster.

Smartie
05-06-2021, 05:17 PM
Mallan has also done well in many games against SPL opposition, as well as below par performances. Looking at our current midfield custodians then I fail to see where he wouldnt fit in. Granted he is not a tackler/holding midfielder but I would be confident he would improve on Newall who Imo is far too passive, holds up play and specialises in passing sideways or holding play up, particularly if also playing Gogic in an enforcer/holding role. Mallan plays with a directness and has energy to burn, looking at our performance in the
cup final Mallan could more than contributed, we lacked thought, drive and insight, ifs and buts but I feel Mallan could have given us more a bit of an edge

Mallan has energy to burn?


Stevie Mallan?

If he has energy to burn then it’s the slow-burning variety.

Your criticism of Newell is reasonable and who knows if Malian might have been an improvement - all we know is that what we tried didn’t work.

If Mallan plays a big part for us next season then we’ll be back to being a bottom six side with aspirations to maybe scrape into the top half.

He’s an impact player at best but he thinks he’s worthy of a bigger role. It’s up to another club to figure out how to accommodate him imo, but they won’t be a top 4 club.

MWHIBBIES
05-06-2021, 05:19 PM
Ok no worries, appreciate your response, thanks :aok:


Please please give me a transfer rumour all this drivial is boring.Less is best is a good tip for serial poster.

We're signing Jack Grealish, Buendia is his replacement.

Magpie
05-06-2021, 05:21 PM
Looks like a fantastic signing.

Offered more money than Arsenal apparently.

HUTCHYHIBBY
05-06-2021, 05:42 PM
Emi Buendia close to signing for Aston Villa from Norwich. Will be a decent signing for them.

£33m + £5m in add ons. You'd have to imagine Grealish will be on the move.

Bridge hibs
05-06-2021, 06:16 PM
Mallan has energy to burn?


Stevie Mallan?

If he has energy to burn then it’s the slow-burning variety.

Your criticism of Newell is reasonable and who knows if Malian might have been an improvement - all we know is that what we tried didn’t work.

If Mallan plays a big part for us next season then we’ll be back to being a bottom six side with aspirations to maybe scrape into the top half.

He’s an impact player at best but he thinks he’s worthy of a bigger role. It’s up to another club to figure out how to accommodate him imo, but they won’t be a top 4 club.Yes, Ive seen Mallan being energetic, chasing, harrying, etc , compared to the lethargic slow mo of out our current midfield and in particular many games this season past, are you actually questioning that ? Im not saying he is a brilliant midfielder but given that performance in the final he would have def added a bit more energy

JohnM1875
05-06-2021, 06:18 PM
I'm definitely not a huge Mallan fan. But there's a player in there for sure. And I honestly do think he could be a big player for us.

The issue is though, we'd probably need to change formation to accommodate him and I just don't think we will.

Callum_62
05-06-2021, 06:18 PM
Yes, Ive seen Mallan being energetic, chasing, harrying, etc , compared to the lethargic slow mo of out our current midfield and in particular many games this season past, are you actually questioning that ? Im not saying he is a brilliant midfielder but given that performance in the final he would have def added a bit more energy

I think energy and athleticism are Mallans worst qualities

Magpie
05-06-2021, 06:24 PM
£33m + £5m in add ons. You'd have to imagine Grealish will be on the move.

City bound apparently.

Unseen work
05-06-2021, 06:35 PM
There’s plenty room for Mallan at Hibs imo.

Our central 3 the majority of the second half of the season was Newell, Irvine and Gogic. For me Irvine would benefit from playing deeper beside Gogic and Newell was underperforming and too safe, Mallan could take the advanced role and do it very well with Gogic and Irvine behind him Imo.

Especially if he has the pace and energy of Boyle and Doig wide and movement of Nisbet and Doidge up top.

He’s a very good technical player, we should appreciate we he is good at instead of criticising him for what he’s not so good at. There’s plenty in the team that can’t do what he can.

Put him in any other team in the league and play him correctly and I’d have no doubt he’d score 10+ goals.

Him and Allan battling out for the 10 position would be brilliant.

Lancs Harp
05-06-2021, 06:50 PM
Personally i think the game in Scotland is too physical for Mallan he's better off plying his trade abroad as he has done with reasonable success this year. He has a nice touch and is technically reasonable at least, but struggles with the physical side of the game for me. Sadly I dont think Mallan or Allan are the answer. I dont think Scott will ever recover his full fitness and be the same player he once was. Time to move on for both the players concerned and Hibs.

cabbageandribs1875
05-06-2021, 06:58 PM
newly promoted EPL/Championship Yo-Yo kings Norwich City have sold their best player to Villa for 30m, in the last 17 seasons they've been Promoted 5 times and Relegated 4 times, a club that just loves those huge parachute payments

keep the faith
05-06-2021, 07:03 PM
Personally i think the game in Scotland is too physical for Mallan he's better off plying his trade abroad as he has done with reasonable success this year. He has a nice touch and is technically reasonable at least, but struggles with the physical side of the game for me. Sadly I dont think Mallan or Allan are the answer. I dont think Scott will ever recover his full fitness and be the same player he once was. Time to move on for both the players concerned and Hibs.

You have decided scott won't be the player he was,so we should move on?
Wow! I think I will back out best player here and desperate to see him back.

Smartie
05-06-2021, 07:09 PM
Mallan's fine if the other team gives him the freedom of the park to play his own game. He's had a couple of decent games against Celtic when they've been more bothered about what they're doing than about what we're doing but most weeks when we're pressed and closed down quickly he's totally neutralised and absolutely hopeless. We've tried playing Mallan deep - it didn't work, he couldn't do anything with the ball under pressure and was frankly a liability.

Whilst he's shown the odd flash of something here and there, he hasn't shown anything to suggest we should build the team around him. Scott Allan has, although I have a bad feeling that he won't now even have the bare minimum fitness level required with players around him to do his running.

Lancs Harp
05-06-2021, 07:09 PM
You have decided scott won't be the player he was,so we should move on?
Wow! I think I will back out best player here and desperate to see him back.

No need mate just my opinion. Sadly I dont think he will ever regain his former fitness. No need for the angst it isnt Twitter.

scoopyboy
05-06-2021, 07:12 PM
You have decided scott won't be the player he was,so we should move on?
Wow! I think I will back out best player here and desperate to see him back.

Very commendable and I also want to see Scott Allan back to his brilliant best, however I think we have to understand that might not happen.

Best player, questionable. If we were to sell all our players Scott Allan wouldn't be in the top three sales.

brog
05-06-2021, 07:17 PM
Mallan's whole time at Hibs has been in a team that is murdered in midfield - because he's part of it.

Even by Hibs Net standards that's a cracker! In Mallan's 1st season, his only full season, he started 36 out of 38 League games. Somehow we finished 5th despite obviously being murdered in midfield for 36 games & had a positive goal difference of 12. Mallan scored 7 league goals (no pens) which is more than our whole midfield managed this season & he was voted POTY both by his peers (those guys getting murdered in midfield every week) & our supporters. We're all entitled to have different opinions on players (and I'm not a big Mallan fan) but we're not entitled to rewrite history or distort facts just to support our argument.

B.H.F.C
05-06-2021, 07:23 PM
Mallan's whole time at Hibs has been in a team that is murdered in midfield - because he's part of it.

Even by Hibs Net standards that's a cracker! In Mallan's 1st season, his only full season, he started 36 out of 38 League games. Somehow we finished 5th despite obviously being murdered in midfield for 36 games & had a positive goal difference of 12. Mallan scored 7 league goals (no pens) which is more than our whole midfield managed this season & he was voted POTY both by his peers (those guys getting murdered in midfield every week) & our supporters. We're all entitled to have different opinions on players (and I'm not a big Mallan fan) but we're not entitled to rewrite history or distort facts just to support our argument.

I don’t think Mallan is as bad as is made out by some. Equally, I do think you need to accommodate him but I’m not sure that he’s good enough to accommodate, if that makes sense.

I think he gets some lazy criticism at times. He’s often accused of being lazy. He’s not, it’s just that he struggles to compete physically but it’s not down to laziness. He’d undoubtedly have been a better option of the bench than the midfielders sitting there a fortnight ago though.

bingo70
05-06-2021, 07:25 PM
If we start next season with Mallan in midfield it’s been a terrible summer IMO

Even if he did win player of the year 2 or 3 years ago.

bingo70
05-06-2021, 07:30 PM
Darnell Johnson released by Leicester.

Not saying we should get him back but i do wonder what he would have been like if he stayed fit.

B.H.F.C
05-06-2021, 07:34 PM
Darnell Johnson released by Leicester.

Not saying we should get him back but i do wonder what he would have been like if he stayed fit.

Remember his only appearance for us coming on as a sub at Parkhead. Immediately stamped on a Celtic player, somehow avoided a red card, but got a retrospective ban I think. And was never seen again.

bingo70
05-06-2021, 07:38 PM
Remember his only appearance for us coming on as a sub at Parkhead. Immediately stamped on a Celtic player, somehow avoided a red card, but got a retrospective ban I think. And was never seen again.

Was that his only game?

I thought I saw him play. Could that have been a friendly or off the bench maybe?

B.H.F.C
05-06-2021, 07:41 PM
Was that his only game?

I thought I saw him play. Could that have been a friendly or off the bench maybe?

Pretty sure that was his only game. Signed in the January so unlikely to have been a friendly.

Smartie
05-06-2021, 07:48 PM
Mallan's whole time at Hibs has been in a team that is murdered in midfield - because he's part of it.

Even by Hibs Net standards that's a cracker! In Mallan's 1st season, his only full season, he started 36 out of 38 League games. Somehow we finished 5th despite obviously being murdered in midfield for 36 games & had a positive goal difference of 12. Mallan scored 7 league goals (no pens) which is more than our whole midfield managed this season & he was voted POTY both by his peers (those guys getting murdered in midfield every week) & our supporters. We're all entitled to have different opinions on players (and I'm not a big Mallan fan) but we're not entitled to rewrite history or distort facts just to support our argument.

That season was a season of two halves, really. During the second half of the season we'd brought in Omeonga and when Milligan came back from his trip away in January he looked much fitter. We therefor had a few players who were able to carry Mallan through games.

The stat I'd be most interested to see would be whether the team wins or not when he plays. We've had our ups and downs over his time with the club but it just feels to me that when he gets into the team we play poorly as a team and lose - and that is the most important stat.

I'd love him to be the solution - it would be lovely and easy. I have absolutely nothing against him - I think his attitude is by and large spot on (although he can get careless and let folk run away from him but that's not an effort issue) and I get the feeling he's a great lad.

I just feel like it's been groundhog day with Mallan - makes a decent impact off the bench, clamour for him to start, poor individual performance in a poor team performance then repeat.

He started his first season well at a time when the team was a bit "all at sea" after the departures of McGinn, McGeouch and Allan, he looked decent early on. That's getting on for being a very long time ago that we can say we saw anything really positive from him.

He's just not the answer, unless the question is "where do we start if we want to quickly become bottom six fodder once more".

Lago
05-06-2021, 07:52 PM
Personally i think the game in Scotland is too physical for Mallan he's better off plying his trade abroad as he has done with reasonable success this year. He has a nice touch and is technically reasonable at least, but struggles with the physical side of the game for me. Sadly I dont think Mallan or Allan are the answer. I dont think Scott will ever recover his full fitness and be the same player he once was. Time to move on for both the players concerned and Hibs.
Have to agree with your assessment re Scott Allan, I drought he'll be as he was before his illness.

ahibby
05-06-2021, 08:01 PM
Mallan has also done well in many games against SPL opposition, as well as below par performances. Looking at our current midfield custodians then I fail to see where he wouldnt fit in. Granted he is not a tackler/holding midfielder but I would be confident he would improve on Newall who Imo is far too passive, holds up play and specialises in passing sideways or holding play up, particularly if also playing Gogic in an enforcer/holding role. Mallan plays with a directness and has energy to burn, looking at our performance in the
cup final Mallan could more than contributed, we lacked thought, drive and insight, ifs and buts but I feel Mallan could have given us more a bit of an edge

Thats the Newell who got the ball to Irvine six yards out for our best chance of a gial and made a last ditch slide tackle to stop them sciring without giving a penalty away in the cup final but yes Mallan could do that with his eyes closed and ine hand tied behind his back and much more.

Bridge hibs
05-06-2021, 08:15 PM
Thats the Newell who got the ball to Irvine six yards out for our best chance of a gial and made a last ditch slide tackle to stop them sciring without giving a penalty away in the cup final but yes Mallan could do that with his eyes closed and ine hand tied behind his back and much more.That Newall who contributed ****ing zilch in the cup final, Mallan would have at least contributed in an attacking sense, he may be limited but all Newall done was side to side and pass back

SMAXXA
05-06-2021, 08:24 PM
Thats the Newell who got the ball to Irvine six yards out for our best chance of a gial and made a last ditch slide tackle to stop them sciring without giving a penalty away in the cup final but yes Mallan could do that with his eyes closed and ine hand tied behind his back and much more.

It’s the way for some Hibs fans players suddenly become better when they are not at Hibs but wouldn’t get in their teams when they were

Bostonhibby
05-06-2021, 08:29 PM
Remember his only appearance for us coming on as a sub at Parkhead. Immediately stamped on a Celtic player, somehow avoided a red card, but got a retrospective ban I think. And was never seen again.Bring him home [emoji6]

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Bridge hibs
05-06-2021, 08:37 PM
It’s the way for some Hibs fans players suddenly become better when they are not at Hibs but wouldn’t get in their teams when they wereIm not suggesting Mallan has improved since he has been in Turkey, I do think he gets a raw deal from many on here and he is not as bad as he is made out to be. With regards the poster above re Newalls contribution in the final, Mallan would have at least tried a leg, Newall went awol

Potty78
05-06-2021, 08:48 PM
Thats the Newell who got the ball to Irvine six yards out for our best chance of a gial and made a last ditch slide tackle to stop them sciring without giving a penalty away in the cup final but yes Mallan could do that with his eyes closed and ine hand tied behind his back and much more.
Tackle you're on about was Gogic 👍

Broken Gnome
05-06-2021, 09:10 PM
Tackle you're on about was Gogic 👍

Newell tracking back in the second half saved us twice, tackle on Middleton then deflected the ball wide.

Hibee Mac
05-06-2021, 09:18 PM
Tackle you're on about was Gogic [emoji106]No, Newell made a last ditch tackle and deflected the ball wide. Was basically a goal saving challenge.

Hibee Mac
05-06-2021, 09:21 PM
Mallan's whole time at Hibs has been in a team that is murdered in midfield - because he's part of it.

Even by Hibs Net standards that's a cracker! In Mallan's 1st season, his only full season, he started 36 out of 38 League games. Somehow we finished 5th despite obviously being murdered in midfield for 36 games & had a positive goal difference of 12. Mallan scored 7 league goals (no pens) which is more than our whole midfield managed this season & he was voted POTY both by his peers (those guys getting murdered in midfield every week) & our supporters. We're all entitled to have different opinions on players (and I'm not a big Mallan fan) but we're not entitled to rewrite history or distort facts just to support our argument.Opinions eh. I thought that bit in bold was the most succinct way of describing Mallan I've seen in a while.

Our midfield has improved since he's not been a part of it IMO. I'll be very surprised if he's at Hibs next season unless he's happy being an impact sub (which I think he'd be a very good one).

JimBHibees
05-06-2021, 09:36 PM
Christ there's being negative and there's being negative. The same folk drag every thread they comment on into a negative borefest.

Nobody is more negative than me when the time is right, but when in every point you want to argue, we've made progress yet it's still not enough unless we win something, well a lot of people are going to be depressed a very long time.

Instead of looking at the bigger picture, we have a lot of folk who cant let go any bad result we have to bring every thread down to their negativity.

If folk are depressed, then seek help a football forum where happiness is is probably not for them.

We are on an upward curve, my god we've had enough of the other option, if you cant be happy now watching Hibs build from a solid base, you never will be.

Post of the year.

brog
05-06-2021, 10:00 PM
Opinions eh. I thought that bit in bold was the most succinct way of describing Mallan I've seen in a while.

Our midfield has improved since he's not been a part of it IMO. I'll be very surprised if he's at Hibs next season unless he's happy being an impact sub (which I think he'd be a very good one).

It's not really an opinion, its more a question of facts. I'm not in any way saying we should make Mallan an integral part of our team. Its just nonsense however to say we're murdered in midfield every time Mallan plays when it can clearly be demonstrated that it's not the case.

S4uzee
05-06-2021, 10:09 PM
Post of the year.

Not really .... how can you be happy watching a team that turned in a performance like that in a cup final. Seen more effort from Gretna and QOTS in previous finals

tamig
05-06-2021, 10:12 PM
Not really .... how can you be happy watching a team that turned in a performance like that in a cup final. Seen more effort from Gretna and QOTS in previous finals

Wrong thread pal.

Peevemor
05-06-2021, 10:12 PM
Not really .... how can you be happy watching a team that turned in a performance like that in a cup final. Seen more effort from Gretna and QOTS in previous finalsHibs are about more than one match.

northstandhibby
05-06-2021, 10:18 PM
Not really .... how can you be happy watching a team that turned in a performance like that in a cup final. Seen more effort from Gretna and QOTS in previous finals

You've beat me to posting something similar.

We'd all be delighted and extremely happy having seen off St Johnstone in the Cup Final and riding high in third place, however, the Cup Final was the biggest let down in many a year. It was a shocking embarrassing performance that seemed more akin to a nothing at stake game. I've seen the best of Hibs and the worst of Hibs and the Cup Final was the very worst. I'm over it but I won't forget how bad we were and while finishing third was a huge achievement, losing to St Johnstone the way we did was in total contrast - a massive failure that will live long in the memory.

SMAXXA
05-06-2021, 10:19 PM
Not really .... how can you be happy watching a team that turned in a performance like that in a cup final. Seen more effort from Gretna and QOTS in previous finals

Is following Hibs about 1 game like? Forget the positives from the other games over the season?

madhatter
05-06-2021, 10:24 PM
Is following Hibs about 1 game like? Forget the positives from the other games over the season?

Did people forget most of the negatives from the season when we won the Scottish Cup? I’d argue they did. It works both ways. You’re defined by your highest and lowest points usually.

ahibby
05-06-2021, 10:31 PM
That Newall who contributed ****ing zilch in the cup final, Mallan would have at least contributed in an attacking sense, he may be limited but all Newall done was side to side and pass back

You should maybe watch the game again. Newell set up our best chance of the game but Irvine couldnt take it. Then he saved us from going two behind by tracking back and putting in a last ditch tackle without giving a penalty away. There were worse contributions on the day.

Peevemor
05-06-2021, 10:33 PM
BH made a cracking post about the negativity on here, to be followed by a couple of perfect examples of what he was on about.

When did everything become so polarised?

We can't mention our decent season and how we hope that the progress we've made will continue without someone reminding us how pish the final was so everything must be crap.

Can we not find some middle ground and look forward instead of automatically splitting into black or white?

northstandhibby
05-06-2021, 10:37 PM
Hibs are about more than one match.

You maybe don't mean it but the post is extremely condescending. The guy like me has probably been following Hibs for many decades taking the good with the bad but that performance was as bad as I've seen in a Cup Final. Forget 2012 as hertz were being corruptly financed and it means nothing in my book.

madhatter
05-06-2021, 10:42 PM
BH made a cracking post about the negativity on here, to be followed by a couple of perfect examples of what he was on about.

When did everything become so polarised?

We can't mention our decent season and how we hope that the progress we've made will continue without someone reminding us how pish the final was so everything must be crap.

Can we not find some middle ground and look forward instead of automatically splitting into black or white?

Is that the cracking post that essentially said go seek help and stay off happy fans forum? Think that answers why it’s polarised on here.

SMAXXA
05-06-2021, 10:47 PM
You maybe don't mean it but the post is extremely condescending. The guy like me has probably been following Hibs for many decades taking the good with the bad but that performance was as bad as I've seen in a Cup Final. Forget 2012 as hertz were being corruptly financed and it means nothing in my book.

But he’s right 🤷*♂️

Stuart93
05-06-2021, 10:48 PM
So, any signings or rumours or what

northstandhibby
05-06-2021, 10:48 PM
But he’s right 🤷*♂️

Right about what exactly?

SMAXXA
05-06-2021, 10:57 PM
Right about what exactly?

Hibs are about more than one match, not that you’d think it reading some of the stuff on here and on social media.

Peevemor
05-06-2021, 10:59 PM
You maybe don't mean it but the post is extremely condescending. The guy like me has probably been following Hibs for many decades taking the good with the bad but that performance was as bad as I've seen in a Cup Final. Forget 2012 as hertz were being corruptly financed and it means nothing in my book.Condescending? Behave.

I've been following Hibs for decades too but certainly wouldn't have done had I chucked away my scarf after one bad performance.

northstandhibby
05-06-2021, 11:00 PM
Hibs are about more than one match, not that you’d think it reading some of the stuff on here and on social media.

'Hibs are about more than one match'

Did you ever tell your Granny to suck eggs?

You're talking to people who've followed Hibs for over 50 years.

Muppet :aok:

Peevemor
05-06-2021, 11:02 PM
Is that the cracking post that essentially said go seek help and stay off happy fans forum? Think that answers why it’s polarised on here.Read his post again and reply to me without twisting what was said, otherwise there's no point continuing the conversation.

CapitalGreen
05-06-2021, 11:02 PM
Remember his only appearance for us coming on as a sub at Parkhead. Immediately stamped on a Celtic player, somehow avoided a red card,.

That’s a tick in the positive column for me.

northstandhibby
05-06-2021, 11:02 PM
Condescending? Behave.

I've been following Hibs for decades too but certainly wouldn't have done had I chucked away my scarf after one bad performance.

Who on here has said they've chucked their scarf away?

Pray tell!

Peevemor
05-06-2021, 11:05 PM
Who on here has said they've chucked their scarf away?

Pray tell!Well if we believe yourself and the poster I initially quoted there doesn't seem to be any hope for the future given we had a crap match à couple of weeks ago.

CapitalGreen
05-06-2021, 11:06 PM
'Hibs are about more than one match'

Did you ever tell your Granny to suck eggs?

You're talking to people who've followed Hibs for over 50 years.

Muppet :aok:

What relevance is the length of time someone has followed Hibs?

northstandhibby
05-06-2021, 11:08 PM
Well if we believe yourself and the poster I initially quoted there doesn't seem to be any hope for the future given we had a crap match à couple of weeks ago.

This is getting a tad ridiculous. If I'd thrown my scarf away because of one bad performance I'd have chucked it decades ago. Real Hibs fans will have tantrums but you can be sure they'll be back at ER as soon as they can. Behave. :aok:

SMAXXA
05-06-2021, 11:09 PM
'Hibs are about more than one match'

Did you ever tell your Granny to suck eggs?

You're talking to people who've followed Hibs for over 50 years.

Muppet :aok:

I couldn’t care how long you’ve followed Hibs if I think your taking ***** I will say as much. Does your 50 years mean my 35 years means less 😂 and you called me a muppet!!!

Go to bed

northstandhibby
05-06-2021, 11:09 PM
What relevance is the length of time someone has followed Hibs?

Because they're long time Hibernian Supporters that follow them through the good and bad. Grow up.

northstandhibby
05-06-2021, 11:11 PM
I couldn’t care how long you’ve followed Hibs if I think your taking ***** I will say as much. Does your 50 years mean my 35 years means less �� and you called me a muppet!!!

Go to bed

You were the one jumping around trying to control how lifelong Hibs supporters should react and feel to Cup Final defeats. Not me.

madhatter
05-06-2021, 11:11 PM
Read his post again and reply to me without twisting what was said, otherwise there's no point continuing the conversation.

“If folk are depressed, then seek help a football forum where happiness is is probably not for them.”

What am I twisting? Depressed people should seek help and avoid football forum where happiness is?

Stuart93
05-06-2021, 11:12 PM
Can the admins sort this pish out or what?

Ruining the thread.

CapitalGreen
05-06-2021, 11:13 PM
Because they're long time Hibernian Supporters that follow them through the good and bad. Grow up.

So by virtue of being older than other Hibs fans your opinion/experience is somehow more relevant than others? Bore off.

Peevemor
05-06-2021, 11:13 PM
This place is mental (and going horribly downhill).

SMAXXA
05-06-2021, 11:13 PM
Because they're long time Hibernian Supporters that follow them through the good and bad. Grow up.

Your post that kicked this off was because you accused someone of being condescending.

You then proceed to call me a muppet as I hold a different view, tell someone else to behave and another post telling them to grow up.

The irony 😂

northstandhibby
05-06-2021, 11:16 PM
So by virtue of being older than other Hibs fans your opinion/experience is somehow more relevant than others? Bore off.

Point to where I said 'being older than other Hibs fans means their opinion/experience is somehow more relevant than others'.

You wont' be able to Mr Walter Mitty.

northstandhibby
05-06-2021, 11:17 PM
Your post that kicked this off was because you accused someone of being condescending.

You then proceed to call me a muppet as I hold a different view, tell someone else to behave and another post telling them to grow up.

The irony 😂

Nae worries. Ignored from now on.

Stuart93
05-06-2021, 11:17 PM
This place is mental (and going horribly downhill).

It’s a thread for signings and transfer news and there’s debates going on that don’t contribute to the subject of the thread. Partly the reason for this place going downhill. And you’ve contributed to said argument.

SMAXXA
05-06-2021, 11:17 PM
You were the one jumping around trying to control how lifelong Hibs supporters should react and feel to Cup Final defeats. Not me.

You need to read back the posts, I simply said the poster was right that Hibs were more than just 1 game. At no point did I tell or as you put it jumping around trying to control a lifelong Hibs supporter should react to the final 😂

Your having one 😂

Peevemor
05-06-2021, 11:18 PM
It’s a thread for signings and transfer news and there’s debates going on that don’t contribute to the subject of the thread. Partly the reason for this place going downhill. And you’ve contributed to said argument.If you read my posts you'll see that it certainly wasn't my intention. Anyway, I can do without you having a pop at me too so I'll leave it there.

SMAXXA
05-06-2021, 11:19 PM
It’s a thread for signings and transfer news and there’s debates going on that don’t contribute to the subject of the thread. Partly the reason for this place going downhill. And you’ve contributed to said argument.

Your right and I apologies for going off topic as I do hate when that happens especially to the transfer thread. I just wasn’t going to let someone make the comments they did without a response.

Stuart93
05-06-2021, 11:21 PM
If you read my posts you'll see that it certainly wasn't my intention. Anyway, I can do without you having a pop at me too so I'll leave it there.

I’m just saying let’s try keep the thread on topic, no doubt the admins will be on tomorrow to clear the ***** up.

One of the major reasons this place is going “downhill” is the same arguments breaking out between the same posters on both sides of the negative/positive viewpoints on every thread. I think it’s something we’re all guilty of but it’s tiresome.

northstandhibby
05-06-2021, 11:24 PM
If you read my posts you'll see that it certainly wasn't my intention. Anyway, I can do without you having a pop at me too so I'll leave it there.

Hopefully your wee clique will leave it there too.

'One game'

Dearie me.

It was only the Scottish Cup at stake. Let us old timers get over it in our own way.

:aok:

Peevemor
05-06-2021, 11:28 PM
I’m just saying let’s try keep the thread on topic, no doubt the admins will be on tomorrow to clear the ***** up.

One of the major reasons this place is going “downhill” is the same arguments breaking out between the same posters on both sides of the negative/positive viewpoints on every thread. I think it’s something we’re all guilty of but it’s tiresome.As I said, if you read my initial post tonight you'll see that that wasn't my intention.

MrSmith
05-06-2021, 11:28 PM
FFS! Everyone is eating each other! ENOUGH. It is what it is therefore, let’s reconcile and move on. We will do what we can in the coming months to ensure progress so, let’s be cool.

Peevemor
05-06-2021, 11:29 PM
Hopefully your wee clique will leave it there too.

'One game'

Dearie me.

It was only the Scottish Cup at stake. Let us old timers get over it in our own way.

:aok:I don't know if you've had a scoop tonight, but you're totally out of order.

Bye!

Stuart93
05-06-2021, 11:30 PM
As I said, if you read my initial post tonight you'll see that that wasn't my intention.

Fair enough. I’m not just having a pop at you mate.

CapitalGreen
05-06-2021, 11:36 PM
Point to where I said 'being older than other Hibs fans means their opinion/experience is somehow more relevant than others'.

You wont' be able to Mr Walter Mitty.

Your length of time supporting the club is longer than mine by virtue of simply having lived longer than me.

northstandhibby
05-06-2021, 11:45 PM
Your length of time supporting the club is longer than mine by virtue of simply having lived longer than me.

Sounds as if you're a good Hibernian man. Don't think many would have a gripe with that whatsoever.

:aok:

Bridge hibs
06-06-2021, 05:01 AM
Need a good solid signing or 3 to unite us again, we are all hibs 🇳🇬🇳🇬

J-C
06-06-2021, 05:13 AM
Another ****ing thread being ruined by both sides of the cup final argument, it's boring as ***** now so can we please move on, post after post of who didn't turn up and it's only a one off game and we got 3rd. This is a rumours thread and if we don't have any, please post your crap in the other numerous threads about the cup final, Jack Ross and what players didn't play well that day. Pages and pages of the usual suspects bickering and going over the same ***** we've read this past fortnight.

Bangkok Hibby
06-06-2021, 06:06 AM
Need a good solid signing or 3 to unite us again, we are all hibs 🇳🇬🇳🇬

Wherever we are...🙏🏻👍🏻🇳🇬

ddoc
06-06-2021, 06:18 AM
Another ****ing thread being ruined by both sides of the cup final argument, it's boring as ***** now so can we please move on, post after post of who didn't turn up and it's only a one off game and we got 3rd. This is a rumours thread and if we don't have any, please post your crap in the other numerous threads about the cup final, Jack Ross and what players didn't play well that day. Pages and pages of the usual suspects bickering and going over the same ***** we've read this past fortnight.


Gets my vote. Opening this thread is a nightmare at this time. Maybe I am kidding myself, but in my time on the forums I do not think I have seen a thread hi-jacked by so much childless bickering.

marinello59
06-06-2021, 06:40 AM
Another ****ing thread being ruined by both sides of the cup final argument, it's boring as ***** now so can we please move on, post after post of who didn't turn up and it's only a one off game and we got 3rd. This is a rumours thread and if we don't have any, please post your crap in the other numerous threads about the cup final, Jack Ross and what players didn't play well that day. Pages and pages of the usual suspects bickering and going over the same ***** we've read this past fortnight.

Well said.
Time for this one at least to get back on track. Let’s keep this thread to the topic it was intended for from this point on.

The Count
06-06-2021, 06:55 AM
Well said.
Time for this one at least to get back on track. Let’s keep this thread to the topic it was intended for from this point on.

Agree 100% lets talk transfers.

bingo70
06-06-2021, 07:02 AM
Agree 100% lets talk transfers.

Ok, you go first 😂

Transfer window threads always crack me up. It’s the same every year, although this one is probably a bit excessive, there’s really not that many rumours to discuss. When there is one, it generally gets discussed as much as possible.

In the in between times which is probably about 95% of this thread, people go off on tangents and talk *****.

Hibby Kay-Yay
06-06-2021, 07:50 AM
This place is mental (and going horribly downhill).

Agreed. After years of being a member on here I’m getting tired of seeing the same turgid views of some. Time to go unfortunately.

hibee-boys
06-06-2021, 07:51 AM
Popping down to Greggs later for a latte and bacon roll, more chance of getting some transfer gossip there then on here I suspect.

AgentDaleCooper
06-06-2021, 08:31 AM
Just saw Leigh arrive at Edinburgh airport off a direct flight from Glasgow :hyper

SHODAN
06-06-2021, 08:55 AM
Ahh, it's the close season and there's not a lot to talk about. Right on time for the "hibs.net isn't what it used to be because we are currently arguing" posts.

jacomo
06-06-2021, 08:59 AM
Aston Villa have agreed a deal to sign Emiliano Buendia from Norwich.

No direct relevance to Hibs, but check out the price: £30m, potentially £40m with add ons, plus selling on %, for a 24 year old who has never played in the EPL and was signed from Getafe for £1.8m in 2018.

If Brentford or anyone else comes back for our players this summer we should make sure we get a fair price.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/05/aston-villa-agree-30m-deal-for-norwich-midfielder-emiliano-buendia

Eyrie
06-06-2021, 09:12 AM
Aston Villa have agreed a deal to sign Emiliano Buendia from Norwich.

No direct relevance to Hibs, but check out the price: £30m, potentially £40m with add ons, plus selling on %, for a 24 year old who has never played in the EPL and was signed from Getafe for £1.8m in 2018.

If Brentford or anyone else comes back for our players this summer we should make sure we get a fair price.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/05/aston-villa-agree-30m-deal-for-norwich-midfielder-emiliano-buendia

Different style of player to McGinn, so unlikely to result in McGinn being sold and us getting a windfall. More likely to see Grealish moving on.

Sensible business by Villa to sign the replacement before they get the mega bucks.

calumhibee1
06-06-2021, 09:13 AM
Different style of player to McGinn, so unlikely to result in McGinn being sold and us getting a windfall. More likely to see Grealish moving on.

Sensible business by Villa to sign the replacement before they get the mega bucks.

Which in turn I’d think will mean McGinn staying put.

I’d be surprised if we ever get our sell on for McGinn to be honest. He’s made the step up most players would make with a transfer with Aston Villa instead.

Short of moving on to Arsenal, Tottenham, Man United or any of the bigger clubs then anything else would be a sideways move. At his age he’ll need to have a screamer of a season next season for that to happen i’d think.

JimBHibees
06-06-2021, 09:16 AM
There is always a quiet time in terms of transfers as most players club officials will be having a post season break.

Eyrie
06-06-2021, 09:28 AM
Which in turn I’d think will mean McGinn staying put.

I’d be surprised if we ever get our sell on for McGinn to be honest. He’s made the step up most players would make with a transfer with Aston Villa instead.

Short of moving on to Arsenal, Tottenham, Man United or any of the bigger clubs then anything else would be a sideways move. At his age he’ll need to have a screamer of a season next season for that to happen i’d think.

After the Scott Brown transfer I've always felt that we should look to get additional fees based on appearances even if it means taking a lower percentage of any sell on. Getting an extra £100k from Celtc or £250k from Villa (different eras) for every 100 appearances would be a nice alternative and probably more reliable than the sell on clause.

GreenNWhiteArmy
06-06-2021, 09:32 AM
Which in turn I’d think will mean McGinn staying put.

I’d be surprised if we ever get our sell on for McGinn to be honest. He’s made the step up most players would make with a transfer with Aston Villa instead.

Short of moving on to Arsenal, Tottenham, Man United or any of the bigger clubs then anything else would be a sideways move. At his age he’ll need to have a screamer of a season next season for that to happen i’d think.

Depends how the euros go...

Posh Hibby
06-06-2021, 09:33 AM
Just seen Aston Villa have paid £33 M for a midfielder from Norwich. Wonder if this makes McGinn being sold any more likely?

Greenworld
06-06-2021, 09:34 AM
Aston Villa have agreed a deal to sign Emiliano Buendia from Norwich.

No direct relevance to Hibs, but check out the price: £30m, potentially £40m with add ons, plus selling on %, for a 24 year old who has never played in the EPL and was signed from Getafe for £1.8m in 2018.

If Brentford or anyone else comes back for our players this summer we should make sure we get a fair price.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/05/aston-villa-agree-30m-deal-for-norwich-midfielder-emiliano-buendiaScary money.

So kevin nisbet 5 million
Josh doig 5 million
Porteous. 3 million

Would be quite realistic in this marlet


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hibee-boys
06-06-2021, 09:42 AM
Scary money.

So kevin nisbet 5 million
Josh doig 5 million
Porteous. 3 million

Would be quite realistic in this marlet


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Unfortunately I think it would take a very good showing at the Euro’s by Kevin to get £5 million for him. If Hibs were offered £3million up front with a sell on I would imagine that would be acceptable.

easty
06-06-2021, 09:42 AM
Aston Villa have agreed a deal to sign Emiliano Buendia from Norwich.

No direct relevance to Hibs, but check out the price: £30m, potentially £40m with add ons, plus selling on %, for a 24 year old who has never played in the EPL and was signed from Getafe for £1.8m in 2018.

If Brentford or anyone else comes back for our players this summer we should make sure we get a fair price.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/05/aston-villa-agree-30m-deal-for-norwich-midfielder-emiliano-buendia

He had a season in the EPL 2 year ago with Norwich, and he did well. Only de Bruyne, Grealish and TAA created more chances than him.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Squawka/status/1346090253828771842

jacomo
06-06-2021, 09:51 AM
He had a season in the EPL 2 year ago with Norwich, and he did well. Only de Bruyne, Grealish and TAA created more chances than him.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Squawka/status/1346090253828771842


Ah ok my bad. I don’t remember him playing then.

CMurdoch
06-06-2021, 10:01 AM
After the Scott Brown transfer I've always felt that we should look to get additional fees based on appearances even if it means taking a lower percentage of any sell on. Getting an extra £100k from Celtc or £250k from Villa (different eras) for every 100 appearances would be a nice alternative and probably more reliable than the sell on clause.

That's a good point.
Both clauses should be in any transfer contract even if it meant that any extra appearance cash was deducted from the cash due to us from a subsequent transfer.
It would certainly address the issue from which we might suffer if McGinn plays through his peak without being transferred.

CapitalGreen
06-06-2021, 10:04 AM
Ah ok my bad. I don’t remember him playing then.

He’s an excellent player and in the current Argentina squad.

Peevemor
06-06-2021, 10:09 AM
After the Scott Brown transfer I've always felt that we should look to get additional fees based on appearances even if it means taking a lower percentage of any sell on. Getting an extra £100k from Celtc or £250k from Villa (different eras) for every 100 appearances would be a nice alternative and probably more reliable than the sell on clause.I'd imagine in that case it wouldn't only be any sell-on that would be affected but also the transfer fee itself.

MWHIBBIES
06-06-2021, 10:13 AM
Aston Villa have agreed a deal to sign Emiliano Buendia from Norwich.

No direct relevance to Hibs, but check out the price: £30m, potentially £40m with add ons, plus selling on %, for a 24 year old who has never played in the EPL and was signed from Getafe for £1.8m in 2018.

If Brentford or anyone else comes back for our players this summer we should make sure we get a fair price.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/05/aston-villa-agree-30m-deal-for-norwich-midfielder-emiliano-buendia

He has played in the premier league.

edit - someone beat me to it.

Since452
06-06-2021, 10:25 AM
Scary money.

So kevin nisbet 5 million
Josh doig 5 million
Porteous. 3 million

Would be quite realistic in this marlet


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I think we'd do well to get over 1 million for Porteous

Eyrie
06-06-2021, 01:13 PM
I'd imagine in that case it wouldn't only be any sell-on that would be affected but also the transfer fee itself.

I wouldn't see it affecting the up front cash, because 100 appearances would take the player into his third season with the buying club. The next payment would be near the end of the fifth season, assuming no major injuries.

As CMurdoch points out, the appearance fees would only be deducted when calculating the profit that our percentage would be based on.

Iggy Pope
06-06-2021, 01:21 PM
Aston Villa have agreed a deal to sign Emiliano Buendia from Norwich.

No direct relevance to Hibs, but check out the price: £30m, potentially £40m with add ons, plus selling on %, for a 24 year old who has never played in the EPL and was signed from Getafe for £1.8m in 2018.

If Brentford or anyone else comes back for our players this summer we should make sure we get a fair price.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/05/aston-villa-agree-30m-deal-for-norwich-midfielder-emiliano-buendia

Aside from all the other stuff about games played and where, it seems he cost a bit more than the 1.8m from Getafe. Norwich later bought out the sell-on clause that had been agreed as part of that deal.... so report the BBC anyway.
Nothing in these deals is ever as cut and dried as it seems.

Haymaker
06-06-2021, 02:05 PM
:hyper

04Sauzee
06-06-2021, 02:24 PM
Seen on 2 other rival football forums that Regan Hendry has agreed Hibs. Haven't seen rumours on here or Twitter or news reports suggesting this is the case.

JohnM1875
06-06-2021, 02:28 PM
Seen on 2 other rival football forums that Regan Hendry has agreed Hibs. Haven't seen rumours on here or Twitter or news reports suggesting this is the case.

Interesting. Know he's an Edinburgh guy but never seen him play. Anyone any idea what kind of midfielder he is? Central player right?

Thought it was said on here he was away down south talking to teams the other week.

Peevemor
06-06-2021, 02:30 PM
Why's his name back to front?

JimBHibees
06-06-2021, 02:32 PM
Interesting. Know he's an Edinburgh guy but never seen him play. Anyone any idea what kind of midfielder he is? Central player right?

Thought it was said on here he was away down south talking to teams the other week.

Central player left footed bit of a playmaker.

JohnM1875
06-06-2021, 02:35 PM
Central player left footed bit of a playmaker.

Cheers. Seems an interesting signing if it happens. Just turned 23 as well so a good age.

Definitely crying out for creativity from the middle of the pitch. Especially as it seems like Mallan will be away and not sure how much Allan will feature next season.

04Sauzee
06-06-2021, 02:37 PM
Interesting. Know he's an Edinburgh guy but never seen him play. Anyone any idea what kind of midfielder he is? Central player right?

Thought it was said on here he was away down south talking to teams the other week.
That's what I thought, just a few fans of other teams saying he's Hibs bound but don't see it myself. Normally someone on here would have heard something.

Smartie
06-06-2021, 03:00 PM
I’ve liked the clips I’ve seen of Hendry but I’ve always thought - does he have something that Mallan, Allan or Newell do not?

Other than probably being a good bit cheaper?

Hibiza
06-06-2021, 03:21 PM
After the Scott Brown transfer I've always felt that we should look to get additional fees based on appearances even if it means taking a lower percentage of any sell on. Getting an extra £100k from Celtc or £250k from Villa (different eras) for every 100 appearances would be a nice alternative and probably more reliable than the sell on clause.

Great shout .

Iain G
06-06-2021, 03:39 PM
Why's his name back to front?

You mean it should be Hendry Regan? Like Ross Jack, Allan Scott or Irvine Jackson?

brog
06-06-2021, 05:23 PM
I think we'd do well to get over 1 million for Porteous

I would hope Hibs would laugh at any bids of around £1m for Porteous.

jacomo
06-06-2021, 05:46 PM
After the Scott Brown transfer I've always felt that we should look to get additional fees based on appearances even if it means taking a lower percentage of any sell on. Getting an extra £100k from Celtc or £250k from Villa (different eras) for every 100 appearances would be a nice alternative and probably more reliable than the sell on clause.


McGinn has around 100 appearances for Villa now. An extra £250k would be welcome but not the big pay day that would make a huge difference.

Eyrie
06-06-2021, 06:16 PM
McGinn has around 100 appearances for Villa now. An extra £250k would be welcome but not the big pay day that would make a huge difference.

Agree that the big payday is what we're hoping for, but how likely do you think that is?

I'm not convinced we'll ever see the sell on clause with Villa establishing themselves in mid table.

Greenbeard
06-06-2021, 06:37 PM
Seen on 2 other rival football forums that Regan Hendry has agreed Hibs. Haven't seen rumours on here or Twitter or news reports suggesting this is the case.
The little I have seen of him this year he has shown promise but it's guesswork as to whether he can he step up to top four SPL level. If he is coming, I'd guess it means Irvine is definitely offski.

badabing67
06-06-2021, 06:38 PM
Darnell Johnson released by Leicester.

Not saying we should get him back but i do wonder what he would have been like if he stayed fit.

Get him backup and we will find out what he's like.

BILLYHIBS
06-06-2021, 06:45 PM
Kyle Lafferty’s available ......

I’ll get ma coat !

CMurdoch
06-06-2021, 06:45 PM
The little I have seen of him this year he has shown promise but it's guesswork as to whether he can he step up to top four SPL level. If he is coming, I'd guess it means Irvine is definitely offski.

Hendry is a totally different kind of player to Irvine.
Hendry would be a replacement for Allan or Mallan.
However, there is nothing at this time, other than supporters, to indicate that this transfer is taking place.

JDT
06-06-2021, 06:54 PM
Kyle Lafferty’s available ......

I’ll get ma coat !

Have you seen the statement Kilmarnock have put out about him? He wanted 4x higher wages to stay after relegation. He's only interested in himself and we should stay well clear

Crab apple
06-06-2021, 06:59 PM
Hendry is a totally different kind of player to Irvine.
Hendry would be a replacement for Allan or Mallan.
However, there is nothing at this time, other than supporters, to indicate that this transfer is taking place.

He is more an Allan or Mallan replacement but with a bit more pace. I'd thought he was heading down south.

CMurdoch
06-06-2021, 07:02 PM
He is more an Allan or Mallan replacement but with a bit more pace. I'd thought he was heading down south.

His agent will be touting him all over.
St Johnstone would be a good fit as a replacement for the young Irish guy if he is sold.
As ever it will be all about the money.

CMurdoch
06-06-2021, 07:03 PM
Have you seen the statement Kilmarnock have put out about him? He wanted 4x higher wages to stay after relegation. He's only interested in himself and we should stay well clear

Hibs don't do babysitting anymore although we may start again for Griffiths because the potential benefits would probably outweigh the hassle.

Lafferty will end up at Motherwell on a 1 year contract.
At 34 in 3 months I can't see him tipping the hassle scales for Hearts.

Andy74
06-06-2021, 09:55 PM
Have you seen the statement Kilmarnock have put out about him? He wanted 4x higher wages to stay after relegation. He's only interested in himself and we should stay well clear

What if he had agreed last year to play for £500 a week?

Not a person I like but the 4x thing doesn’t mean an awful lot.

JohnM1875
06-06-2021, 09:58 PM
What if he had agreed last year to play for £500 a week?

Not a person I like but the 4x thing doesn’t mean an awful lot.

Come on, it's Kyle Lafferty we're talking about here. There's no way he'd be doing any club a favour like that.

MagicSwirlingShip
06-06-2021, 10:42 PM
Are we still having Stevie Mallan debates ? 🤦🏻*♂️

JohnM1875
06-06-2021, 10:47 PM
Are we still having Stevie Mallan debates ? 🤦🏻*♂️

Of course we are, its fun when done respectfully.

Other than his stint at Barnsley you could argue he's been very good at every club he's been at, including the recent loan spell in Turkey, arguably a more challenging league than ours.

Is that kind of talent really something we can be passing up without trying to accommodate?

Again, I'm personally not a massive Mallan fan, gave him a lot of stick in the past.

But it's a good conversation to have.

Stuart93
06-06-2021, 10:57 PM
Of course we are, its fun when done respectfully.

Other than his stint at Barnsley you could argue he's been very good at every club he's been at, including the recent loan spell in Turkey, arguably a more challenging league than ours.

Is that kind of talent really something we can be passing up without trying to accommodate?

Again, I'm personally not a massive Mallan fan, gave him a lot of stick in the past.

But it's a good conversation to have.

If he’d been very good at us there’s no way we’d be letting him go out on loan imo

In fact to describe his time at us as very good would be a big stretch for me. I’m a little disappointed that he hasn’t been a lot better.

JohnM1875
06-06-2021, 11:06 PM
If he’d been very good at us there’s no way we’d be letting him go out on loan imo

In fact to describe his time at us as very good would be a big stretch for me. I’m a little disappointed that he hasn’t been a lot better.

It's honestly a weird one for me.

I actually kinda agree with you, that's why I said I'm not a huge Mallan fan. But I think it would be really unfair to describe his first season with us as anything other than very good.

He's then flitted in and out of the team and never really cemented down a place in the starting XI. But even then he was nominated for goal of the season for that effort against Dundee. Could anyone else in our current midfield do that?

I just think it's a bit of a risk passing up on his abilities without giving him another shot.

Stuart93
06-06-2021, 11:10 PM
It's honestly a weird one for me.

I actually kinda agree with you, that's why I said I'm not a huge Mallan fan. But I think it would be really unfair to describe his first season with us as anything other than very good.

He's then flitted in and out of the team and never really cemented down a place in the starting XI. But even then he was nominated for goal of the season for that effort against Dundee. Could anyone else in our current midfield do that?

I just think it's a bit of a risk passing up on his abilities without giving him another shot.

Yep after his first season I thought the form was going to continue but it didn’t really pan out that way for whatever reason. Was also being deployed in a midfield role that didn’t really suit him imo.

Part of me would still like to see him in his natural position behind the strikers but I’m not sure he’ll be around much longer

Michael
06-06-2021, 11:25 PM
Mallan is probably not a regular starter, but he would improve the squad. An excellent option for rotation, or off the bench for impact.

1875Sean
06-06-2021, 11:33 PM
Mallan is probably not a regular starter, but he would improve the squad. An excellent option for rotation, or off the bench for impact.

Malian left on loan as he wanted game time, if we get any kind of offer he will be offski

147lothian
07-06-2021, 12:47 AM
The Mallan debate wouldn't keep cropping up, if our midfield had been providing the front line over the course of the season, I think it's generally accepted that it's the middle of the park that this current squad is weakest in.

Magpie
07-06-2021, 01:53 AM
The Mallan debate wouldn't keep cropping up, if our midfield had been providing the front line over the course of the season, I think it's generally accepted that it's the middle of the park that this current squad is weakest in.

He was instrumental in our progress to the League Cup semi final. He’s a good squad player to have and his ability to score and assist is an added plus. There are some games he may not suit but others that he will. Voted by the players and fans as our best player a couple of seasons ago. He is 25 years old, I would be keeping him unless a good offer came in.

147lothian
07-06-2021, 03:01 AM
He was instrumental in our progress to the League Cup semi final. He’s a good squad player to have and his ability to score and assist is an added plus. There are some games he may not suit but others that he will. Voted by the players and fans as our best player a couple of seasons ago. He is 25 years old, I would be keeping him unless a good offer came in.

I tend to agree, IMO we would have been out of the cup at Alloa if we didn't have Mallan to bring on from the bench in the game your talking about. I see Mallan as being a confidence player and I have no doubt he will have gained confidence from getting regular game time in Turkey

Haymaker
07-06-2021, 04:32 AM
Can we all just :hyper

J-C
07-06-2021, 05:32 AM
If he’d been very good at us there’s no way we’d be letting him go out on loan imo

In fact to describe his time at us as very good would be a big stretch for me. I’m a little disappointed that he hasn’t been a lot better.


Ross has said he didn't want him to go on loan but Mallan wanted more game time, obviously Ross doesn't see him as a starter and more of a squad player. TBH I thought he was under used before he went on loan, he'd came back from injury and was fit, played well in the league cup game when he came on against Alloa.

Iain G
07-06-2021, 06:35 AM
He was instrumental in our progress to the League Cup semi final. He’s a good squad player to have and his ability to score and assist is an added plus. There are some games he may not suit but others that he will. Voted by the players and fans as our best player a couple of seasons ago. He is 25 years old, I would be keeping him unless a good offer came in.

I do wonder if teams just worked out how to nullify him in that second season, knowing what he was likely to do and closing him down? It's a bit like Murphy, he is more often than not going to cut or drift inside and opposition coaches work this out and can set up their team to reduce their impact on the game.

J-C
07-06-2021, 06:56 AM
I do wonder if teams just worked out how to nullify him in that second season, knowing what he was likely to do and closing him down? It's a bit like Murphy, he is more often than not going to cut or drift inside and opposition coaches work this out and can set up their team to reduce their impact on the game.
I think he was playing with a wee niggle, didn't really look totally fit, 48 games the 1st season and only 27 in the second.

Brightside
07-06-2021, 07:33 AM
Mallan won’t stay to just be a squad player. That’s why he went to Turkey. Will be a huge surprise if he’s still here come the new season.

Hibbyradge
07-06-2021, 07:56 AM
Why's his name back to front?

Jackson Irvine is his hero. :wink:

Tambo
07-06-2021, 08:23 AM
Grant Leadbitter Praising Jack Ross today, maybe looking for a move.

CapitalGreen
07-06-2021, 08:25 AM
Grant Leadbitter Praising Jack Ross today, maybe looking for a move.

He’s retired so unlikely unless in a coaching role.

Tambo
07-06-2021, 08:34 AM
He’s retired so unlikely unless in a coaching role.

Ok thanks didn’t see that bit, just seen that his contract had ended but It’s not someone who I would want Hibs to be looking at anyway.

neil7908
07-06-2021, 09:37 AM
How did Mallan get on in Turkey? I had planned to keep an eye on him and remember seeing his first goal but forgot about him after that.

I think he's a good player and wouldn't mind him as part of the squad but he doesn't get ahead of Gogic, Irvine (presuming he stays), Newell, Allan or possibly even Magennis for me.

Highwayman
07-06-2021, 10:20 AM
Charlie Mulgrew linked with Dundee United.

Was a quality player once upon a time,but at 35 might be past his best

However similar things were said about Charlie Adam when he signed for Dundee.

calumhibee1
07-06-2021, 10:29 AM
Charlie Mulgrew linked with Dundee United.

Was a quality player once upon a time,but at 35 might be past his best

However similar things were said about Charlie Adam when he signed for Dundee.

Not for me. Would have taken him a year or two ago but not now.

CMurdoch
07-06-2021, 10:36 AM
How did Mallan get on in Turkey? I had planned to keep an eye on him and remember seeing his first goal but forgot about him after that.

I think he's a good player and wouldn't mind him as part of the squad but he doesn't get ahead of Gogic, Irvine (presuming he stays), Newell, Allan or possibly even Magennis for me.

From what I can recall he had a few starts in Turkey but was generally playing from the bench hence they don't seem interested in taking up the option on him.

TheHibernator
07-06-2021, 10:52 AM
How did Mallan get on in Turkey? I had planned to keep an eye on him and remember seeing his first goal but forgot about him after that.

I think he's a good player and wouldn't mind him as part of the squad but he doesn't get ahead of Gogic, Irvine (presuming he stays), Newell, Allan or possibly even Magennis for me.

They went on a winless streak during his first few months there i think, scored on his debut and started the next few games but got dropped to the bench when they weren't getting wins, probably about the same amount of game time as he would've gotten here in the end

Spudster
07-06-2021, 11:48 AM
How did Mallan get on in Turkey? I had planned to keep an eye on him and remember seeing his first goal but forgot about him after that.

I think he's a good player and wouldn't mind him as part of the squad but he doesn't get ahead of Gogic, Irvine (presuming he stays), Newell, Allan or possibly even Magennis for me.

Assuming Irvine goes I'd happily rotate Allan and Mallan in that role over Newell.

SMAXXA
07-06-2021, 11:59 AM
Charlie Mulgrew linked with Dundee United.

Was a quality player once upon a time,but at 35 might be past his best

However similar things were said about Charlie Adam when he signed for Dundee.

You undoubtedly can get some right good players at that age but id probably prefer our current signing policy and avoid these types of players. Suppose as always it will depend who it is as not right to simply blanket them all because of their age but I’d rather we build for the future.

LeithMike
07-06-2021, 12:25 PM
Assuming Irvine goes I'd happily rotate Allan and Mallan in that role over Newell.For me bringing Mallan back in for Irvine would be a huge step back and exacerbate our current problems in the midfield area by bringing in another one dimensional midfielder with very little energy and mobility. A midfield of Gogic, Newell and Mallan gives me the heebie-jeebies.

If we can't keep Irvine then please can we have two midfielders who can run as well as play a bit.

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04Sauzee
07-06-2021, 12:34 PM
Curtis Main signs for St Mirren on a 2 year deal.

GordonHFC
07-06-2021, 12:45 PM
Curtis Main signs for St Mirren on a 2 year deal.

42 goals in 14 years is not a good average is it?

04Sauzee
07-06-2021, 12:49 PM
42 goals in 14 years is not a good average is it?

He's 28, what age did he make his debut 👀

TheHibernator
07-06-2021, 12:54 PM
42 goals in 14 years is not a good average is it?

Never managed more than 9 league goals for any club he's played for

calumhibee1
07-06-2021, 12:55 PM
Never managed more than 9 league goals for any club he's played for

That is tragic.

Can’t believe the sheep signed him.

hibee316
07-06-2021, 01:37 PM
Assuming Irvine goes I'd happily rotate Allan and Mallan in that role over Newell.

I'd happily not do that.

We were powderpuff on a lot of occasions when those played regularly there.

JimBHibees
07-06-2021, 01:39 PM
That is tragic.

Can’t believe the sheep signed him.

Seems to have been on the back of the semi final where he ragdolled their defence scoring a couple of goals.

Wilson
07-06-2021, 01:42 PM
He's 28, what age did he make his debut 👀

15yo for Darlington. I'm assuming he's not far off 29!

Spudster
07-06-2021, 03:17 PM
I'd happily not do that.

We were powderpuff on a lot of occasions when those played regularly there.

But that was without Gogic, he was brought in to the dirty work.

Since452
07-06-2021, 03:26 PM
Mallan and Allan in the same team is still a no no for me. Both drift in and out of games and both aren't great at the defensive side. I don't think either will be happy sitting on the bench so imagine one will go. When i say one i mean Mallan.

CMurdoch
07-06-2021, 03:27 PM
But that was without Gogic, he was brought in to the dirty work.

But it wasn't enough so Irvine was brought in to add legs.
Doig, Gogic, Irvine and Cadden in the midfield would allow Mallan or Allan to be added without compromise .... if Newell wasn't preferred.

calumhibee1
07-06-2021, 03:42 PM
I see Griffiths has been out training by himself with a personal trainer.

Certainly would suggest he’s making an effort to get into shape.

04Sauzee
07-06-2021, 03:51 PM
Greg Killtie signs for St Mirren on a 2 year deal.

thebakerboy
07-06-2021, 03:55 PM
Steven McGinn signs for Killie .

1875Sean
07-06-2021, 03:55 PM
Stephen McGinn signed for Killie

hibee1875
07-06-2021, 03:58 PM
Surprised we’ve not had a list of leavers from Hibs yet given killie have just announced S McGinn

JimBHibees
07-06-2021, 04:10 PM
Greg Killtie signs for St Mirren on a 2 year deal.

St Mirren fairly spending some money and getting players in. Wonder if that means McGrath will be leaving

Billy Whizz
07-06-2021, 04:11 PM
St Mirren fairly spending some money and getting players in. Wonder if that means McGrath will be leaving

They’ve let a couple of forwards go, Jim

JimBHibees
07-06-2021, 04:22 PM
They’ve let a couple of forwards go, Jim

Obika was one wasn't he, Main no doubt his replacement

Billy Whizz
07-06-2021, 04:28 PM
Obika was one wasn't he, Main no doubt his replacement

And Durnus too has left

CMurdoch
07-06-2021, 04:48 PM
And Durnus too has left

Kiltie replaces Durmus
Main replaces Obika

CMurdoch
07-06-2021, 04:51 PM
Surprised we’ve not had a list of leavers from Hibs yet given killie have just announced S McGinn

Marciano, McGinn and Irvine were the only Hibs first team squad players out of contract with McGinn the only one of the 3 signed up with a new club to date.

Hibiza
07-06-2021, 05:05 PM
Take Mulgrew in an instant.

Unseen work
07-06-2021, 05:12 PM
I’d be happy with Mulgrew.

Competition for centre back/left of a back 3 and has bags of experience. Good defender, good on the ball and demands high standards.

Think he’d still be mobile enough despite his age as he keeps himself in good shape.

Seems like a great guy to have in the changing room too and would fill the ‘leader’ role so many want to see.

hibee1875
07-06-2021, 05:24 PM
Marciano, McGinn and Irvine were the only Hibs first team squad players out of contract with McGinn the only one of the 3 signed up with a new club to date.

I know that. But usually by now we have a statement from the club that also includes details of youth team leavers.

darwenhibby
07-06-2021, 05:28 PM
I’d be happy with Mulgrew.

Competition for centre back/left of a back 3 and has bags of experience. Good defender, good on the ball and demands high standards.

Think he’d still be mobile enough despite his age as he keeps himself in good shape.
He
Seems like a great guy to have in the changing room too and would fill the ‘leader’ role so many want to see.
His legs have gone can’t tackle
Blackburn’s defence was poor last season and Mowbray wanted him no where near it
Hibs can find better elsewhere

Billy Whizz
07-06-2021, 05:40 PM
I know that. But usually by now we have a statement from the club that also includes details of youth team leavers.

I don’t think there’s many in that area. Only one I can think of is Innes Murray, and he’s been training at Charleston Battery

Inconsequential
07-06-2021, 05:45 PM
His legs have gone can’t tackle
Blackburn’s defence was poor last season and Mowbray wanted him no where near it
Hibs can find better elsewhere Must agree, Hibs have already McGregor and Gray who by all all accounts are good around the club and are still under contract. Hardly need any more veterans. Not the way ahead or the signing policy at the club as far as I can make out. :agree:

CMurdoch
07-06-2021, 06:33 PM
I know that. But usually by now we have a statement from the club that also includes details of youth team leavers.

That statement usually surfaces mid June so we should see it in the next week

SChibs
07-06-2021, 07:06 PM
I don’t think there’s many in that area. Only one I can think of is Innes Murray, and he’s been training at Charleston Battery

I think Innes Murray is back now. I seen Oli Shaw in Tesco today and I'm certain it was Innes with him. Hard to tell with the masks on though

Stuart93
07-06-2021, 07:15 PM
Although he’s in the last year of his contract and they’ll be getting around £15m it seems crazy to me that Celtic are selling their best player without having a manager in place

Suppose funds for the rebuild need to come from somewhere. I’d seen PSG supposedly had a 40% sell on fee for Eduard so I’m not sure celtic will be making as much money on him as they thought

04Sauzee
07-06-2021, 07:18 PM
Scott Tanser is St Mirrens 3rd signing of the day. Very good left back/wing back

Stuart93
07-06-2021, 07:40 PM
Scott Tanser is St Mirrens 3rd signing of the day. Very good left back/wing back

Aye they seem to be building a decent squad for next season. Kiltie and Tanser both decent signings for them, no convinced about Main though

Billy Whizz
07-06-2021, 07:47 PM
I think Innes Murray is back now. I seen Oli Shaw in Tesco today and I'm certain it was Innes with him. Hard to tell with the masks on though

He got injured early doors
Wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up at the likes of Edin City

jacomo
07-06-2021, 08:18 PM
Although he’s in the last year of his contract and they’ll be getting around £15m it seems crazy to me that Celtic are selling their best player without having a manager in place

Suppose funds for the rebuild need to come from somewhere. I’d seen PSG supposedly had a 40% sell on fee for Eduard so I’m not sure celtic will be making as much money on him as they thought


They might not have a choice. Arguably they should have sold him last summer and invested in rebuilding the squad then.

SChibs
07-06-2021, 09:17 PM
Although he’s in the last year of his contract and they’ll be getting around £15m it seems crazy to me that Celtic are selling their best player without having a manager in place

Suppose funds for the rebuild need to come from somewhere. I’d seen PSG supposedly had a 40% sell on fee for Eduard so I’m not sure celtic will be making as much money on him as they thought

I think it's 40% of any profit so first 9m is celtics then 40% of whatever after that goes to PSG

1875Sean
07-06-2021, 09:35 PM
Tanner doing work for Dundee Utd tv, does that mean he’s offski?

AliboyFC
07-06-2021, 09:54 PM
Tanner doing work for Dundee Utd tv, does that mean he’s offski?

Hope so.

ddoc
07-06-2021, 11:08 PM
Tanner doing work for Dundee Utd tv, does that mean he’s offski?


What was the transfer fee, 10 bob?

HoboHarry
08-06-2021, 02:44 AM
What was the transfer fee, 10 bob?

If Utd paid 10 bob they were cheated. If we paid 10 bob then I expect resignation(s)....
.

J-C
08-06-2021, 07:53 AM
He got injured early doors
Wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up at the likes of Edin City


Another young lad that on paper looked decent but just hasn't progressed enough to make the breakthrough, as you say he'll end up Div 1 or Championship level.

Blaster
08-06-2021, 08:32 AM
Devlin signing a short term deal till January with Aberdeen to prove his fitness according to BBC gossip column

Stuart93
08-06-2021, 11:11 AM
Devante Cole signed with Barnsley, pity I wouldn’t have minded him here

Come hibs, do something *pokes with stick*

H18 SFR
08-06-2021, 11:17 AM
Aye they seem to be building a decent squad for next season. Kiltie and Tanser both decent signings for them, no convinced about Main though

The thing about Main is, he is one of four strikers they are going with. I very much doubt he will be their main man but over the course of the season they will have options - good management in my opinion.

1875Sean
08-06-2021, 01:13 PM
Fraser Murray Linked with a move back to the pars

Benny Brazil
08-06-2021, 01:15 PM
If we want to push on and cement our place as best of the rest then players like Kiltie, Mulgrew, Devlin, Tanser aren't going to get us there - we can and should be targeting better than that - in my opinion 😉

Stuart93
08-06-2021, 01:17 PM
Fraser Murray Linked with a move back to the pars

I’d imagine it’ll probably be permanent this time

Unfortunately not progressed into the level required for us

If Only
08-06-2021, 01:19 PM
His legs have gone can’t tackle
Blackburn’s defence was poor last season and Mowbray wanted him no where near it
Hibs can find better elsewhere


Strolled it with Fleetwood Town last season

Fergus52
08-06-2021, 01:26 PM
Arsenal journalist saying they're still interested in Doig, but haven't bid yet and we want £5million plus add-ons.

https://twitter.com/ChrisWheatley_/status/1402254610639773700

Brightside
08-06-2021, 01:28 PM
If we want to push on and cement our place as best of the rest then players like Kiltie, Mulgrew, Devlin, Tanser aren't going to get us there - we can and should be targeting better than that - in my opinion 😉

agreed.

Brightside
08-06-2021, 01:30 PM
English window opens tomorrow.

ancient hibee
08-06-2021, 01:34 PM
We
Strolled it with Fleetwood Town last season

Unfortunately he was supposed to run about a bit.

Stuart93
08-06-2021, 01:34 PM
Arsenal journalist saying they're still interested in Doig, but haven't bid yet and we want £5million plus add-ons.

https://twitter.com/ChrisWheatley_/status/1402254610639773700

That would be superb business. Canny see it though

calumhibee1
08-06-2021, 01:37 PM
That would be superb business. Canny see it though

Likewise. Not a chance we’re getting £5m upfront for him.

Although in saying that, a lot of the places talking about arsenals interest in him seem to write as if he’ll be a backup first team left back which is utterly mental so maybe £5m isn’t out the question.

SHODAN
08-06-2021, 01:39 PM
Likewise. Not a chance we’re getting £5m upfront for him.

Although in saying that, a lot of the places talking about arsenals interest in him seem to write as if he’ll be a backup first team left back which is utterly mental so maybe £5m isn’t out the question.

Why not. The Scottish market is more attractive to English clubs after Brexit. That means they're worth more money. Pay up or **** off - if he was English he'd be worth £20 million.