Summer 2021-22 transfer thread

[Hibs90]

So is the deal dead then or are we waiting until tomorrow to see if the SFA can approve it?

Seen different media outlets saying different things.
Bedtime for you bingo, reckon it’s off.

[Heisenberg]

So is the deal dead then or are we waiting until tomorrow to see if the SFA can approve it?

Seen different media outlets saying different things.

Think most journalists seem to agree that it’s not happening. All done too late.

[Callum_62]

Reporter saying we blew it in a paperwork “bungle”.

SFA couldn’t approve it because the deadlineScott burns exclusive? [emoji23]

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[Sir David Gray]

So is the deal dead then or are we waiting until tomorrow to see if the SFA can approve it?

Seen different media outlets saying different things.

It's dead I reckon.

[Callum_62]

As the Easter Road wrapped up an whirlwind end to transfer deadline day, the clubs had an anxious wait to see if enough of the relevant paperwork had been lodged before the window closed at midnight. But were informed that they had fallen just shy.

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[Heisenberg]

Ran out of time. All parties happy with the move.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7491600/transfer-deadline-day-live-celtic-rangers-news-hibs-hearts-spfl/

[Torto7]

Reporter saying we blew it in a paperwork “bungle”.

SFA couldn’t approve it because the deadline

If it’s came down to a clumsy error in the paper work then that’s a joke and Ross should be fuming. Questions to be asked.

Agreed. It's also ridiculous an admin error could stop a deal when all parties are in agreement.

[Sir David Gray]

Reporter saying we blew it in a paperwork “bungle”.

SFA couldn’t approve it because the deadline

If it’s came down to a clumsy error in the paper work then that’s a joke and Ross should be fuming. Questions to be asked.

Hibs blew their audacious bid to sign St Mirren’s Jamie McGrath in a player-cash deal involving Scott Allan and Drey Wright in a paperwork bungle. SFA couldn’t approve it with midnight deadline.@scotsunsport

https://twitter.com/McGregorDerek/status/1432856387848216576?s=19

[Unseen work]

EXCLUSIVE by Derek McGregor

Hibs’ stunning eleventh hour deadline beating swoop for St Mirren’s coveted midfielder Jamie McGrath failed because they botched their bid to get paperwork through to the SFA on time.

Easter Road boss Jack Ross had agreed a player-cash swap deal for Republic of International ace McGrath – involving Scott Allan and Drey Wright heading to the Buddies plus a sum of money – and was very hopeful it would get approved for the midnight deadline.

But both clubs were aware it was subject to the SFA registrations department approving the administrative side of things.

And SunSport Online – which revealed Hibs’ audacious last gasp move for McGrath – understands the Leith outfit were eventually told they HADN’T succeeded in getting the necessary details to Hampden quickly enough.

By 12.30am Saints sent out an official Tweet saying: “That concludes our business for the summer window.

“We had hoped to add to our squad further but unfortunately we have been unable to get any deal over the line.”

It’s also believed all players involved were happy with what was on offer.

Now, however, both Ross and St Mirren manager Jim Goodwin will have to get their players re-focused until at least the transfer window opening again in January

[SaulGoodman]

That’s a shocker

[Hibs90]

Hibs blew their audacious bid to sign St Mirren’s Jamie McGrath in a player-cash deal involving Scott Allan and Drey Wright in a paperwork bungle. SFA couldn’t approve it with midnight deadline.@scotsunsport

https://twitter.com/McGregorDerek/status/1432856387848216576?s=19


Can’t help but laugh 😂

[Torto7]

There must be an avenue for appeal surely?

[JohnM1875]

Botch makes you think we'd entered info incorrectly. Like Scott Allen or something. We missed the deadline.

So dumb that it hasn't been approved when all players and both clubs were happy with the deal!

[madhatter]

There must be an avenue for appeal surely?

It's Hibs and St Mirren. Very doubtful.

[Callum_62]

I love how journalist thrown in capitals and words like bungle

Like someone forgot to hit send on an email [emoji23]

Given both clubs understood it was down to the SFA registrations department to OK the deal I'm guessing by the time we agreed it we were already right down to the wire

Be interested to know what went on though and was it a timing issue or a missed document/info issue

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[Sir David Gray]

Can’t help but laugh 😂

Hopefully we can hear Hibs' side of the story later on.

[Torto7]

It's Hibs and St Mirren. Very doubtful.

Malcolm McPherson is back at the club now I'd let him look into it.

[Centre Hawf]

There must be an avenue for appeal surely?

Why? Because we were dafties and didn't do it properly?

[Just_Jimmy]

Botch makes you think we'd entered info incorrectly. Like Scott Allen or something. We missed the deadline.

So dumb that it hasn't been approved when all players and both clubs were happy with the deal!i said the other day I hate the transfer window concept. I'm surprised it's lasted this long without a player or club challenging it for restriction of trade or such like.



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[The Harp Awakes]

Botch makes you think we'd entered info incorrectly. Like Scott Allen or something. We missed the deadline.

So dumb that it hasn't been approved when all players and both clubs were happy with the deal!

Sent to an incorrect email address?

[007]

If this opportunity only arose at the 11th hour then it's hardly surprising we didn't manage to complete it in time but at least we gave it a go.

[SaulGoodman]

Sent to an incorrect email address?

Santa Fe public library are sitting with a transfer agreement in their inbox.

[email protected]

[BegbieHSC]

It's Hibs and St Mirren. Very doubtful.

By the sounds of a things, both clubs and players involved are disappointed. The deal is dead, but hopefully we can get some clarity in the morning.

[Torto7]

Why? Because we were dafties and didn't do it properly?

Common sense should prevail.

[Heisenberg]

If this opportunity only arose at the 11th hour then it's hardly surprising we didn't manage to complete it in time but at least we gave it a go.

Especially with three players involved. Not an easy deal to do and it seems we just missed out due to timing. I assume Scotland doesn’t use the same system as England regarding last minute deals going past the deadline?

[JohnM1875]

Didn't Leicester have to go without a player for a wee while because they missed the deadline by minutes?

Won't be any appeal and we'll have to make do with what we have and hope Wright and Allan stay focused.

[500miles]

Why? Because we were dafties and didn't do it properly?

Became both teams want it, all players want it, and it's the SFA's job to work in the best interests of it's member clubs rather than create obstacles with red tape.

[Unseen work]

Appeal it and appeal it some more.

I know it’s dead but I’m just hoping something changes to enable it to go through.

Very doubtful anything will change though, it’s Hibs and St Mirren

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Who benefits most out of this “bungle”

The player, who will likely get a more lucrative move down South, and St Mirren, who will likely pull in a larger fee without 2 out of form players attached.

I wonder if it was our mistake 🧐

[jeffers]

The headline is misleading. Botched suggests we did something wrong, the article itself says we didn’t get it through in time, which is a different thing IMO. It’s bureaucracy, if the clubs can prove the deal was concluded by 12 it should be allowed to go through.

[JohnM1875]

Who benefits most out of this “bungle”

The player, who will likely get a more lucrative move down South, and St Mirren, who will likely pull in a larger fee without 2 out of form players attached.

I wonder if it was our mistake 🧐

Think he's out of contract next summer? So can't see St Mirren getting a better deal than what we offered!

[Centre Hawf]

Became both teams want it, all players want it, and it's the SFA's job to work in the best interests of it's member clubs rather than create obstacles with red tape.

I would love it if we could. But at the same time I would be raging if Aberdeen or Hearts pulled off a deal like this with extra help despite failing on their end.

[Peevemor]

Why are some people so quick to believe that there was a "bungle"?

Is it not more likely that the relevant paperwork, involving 3 players moving + cash simply wasn't completed on time and, given the deal never went through, was simply incomplete?

As anyone who's ever been involved in a tender process will confirm, sometimes through no fault of your own there just isn't enough time.

[Mikey_1875]

These articles are so frustrating. If the deal was just too late and didn’t make it on time then fair enough it happens. Now media reporting that we’ve “bungled” the paperwork just leaves the what if in our mind and a chance to knock the club. No one will probably ever get to the bottom of it and it will drag on, makes a good story for the journos though.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Think he's out of contract next summer? So can't see St Mirren getting a better deal than what we offered!

Wasn’t aware of that. Regardless, they have a highly effective player still on their books instead of two gambles

[Peevemor]

These articles are so frustrating. If the deal was just too late and didn’t make it on time then fair enough it happens. Now media reporting that we’ve “bungled” the paperwork just leaves the what if in our mind and a chance to knock the club. No one will probably ever get to the bottom of it and it will drag on, makes a good story for the journos though.What frustrates me more is the number of Hibs supporters that will take the headlines at face value.

[Smartie]

Whilst I agree that we should appeal, appeal and appeal some more, I think we also have to sometimes accept that rules are rules and deadlines are deadlines.

If we started to play fast and loose with stuff like that then it becomes open to all sorts of abuse.

We've missed out, we need to take it on the chin and move on.

McGrath isn't a player I know much about, but he looks pretty impressive going by the footage I've seen of him over the past hour or so.

[Unseen work]

I’m sure the last couple of windows Hibs have done the round up in the early hours of the morning like half 1 or so.

Still nothing yet.

Will there be an appeal for McGrath?

Dylan Tait - Media saying it’s done but still nothing? Assume he’s away back on loan.

Surprised some of our younger players never went on loan

[Since452]

Hopefully we'll sign a striker outside the window

[neil7908]

Why are some people so quick to believe that there was a "bungle"?

Is it not more likely that the relevant paperwork, involving 3 players moving + cash simply wasn't completed on time and, given the deal never went through, was simply incomplete?

As anyone who's ever been involved in a tender process will confirm, sometimes through no fault of your own there just isn't enough time.

I guess the question is why wasn't there enough time though? The transfer deadline is not a secret, presumably Hibs were well aware of the player for a long time. Blaming a lack of time only really works if something is thrown at you last minute. Hibs must have an idea of how long deals take, and should act with that understanding. I can't turn round to my boss and say ah well it was really complicated to get bit of work done I've known about for months so I've just missed the deadline. I'd get in bother for that.

BTW I'm not that fussed about McGrath. I am happy we are keeping Scotty and felt any new additions should have been upfront.

[flash]

Do we actually have a recruitment team? The whole summer to find a forward and, yet again, we come out of the window a player short in that area.
We now have Gullan, Wright and Allan fully aware that they are only still at the club on sufferance.
Meanwhile we have a "partnership" with Brighton yet three other SPL clubs, including our two main rivals, get players from them and we don't despite being in real need.
I am really happy we kept all our prize assets but last night was not our finest hour that's for sure.

[Callum_62]

Do we actually have a recruitment team? The whole summer to find a forward and, yet again, we come out of the window a player short in that area.
We now have Gullan, Wright and Allan fully aware that they are only still at the club on sufferance.
Meanwhile we have a "partnership" with Brighton yet three other SPL clubs, including our two main rivals, get players from them and we don't despite being in real need.
I am really happy we kept all our prize assets but last night was not our finest hour that's for sure.I think we need to sticky the Brighton deal announcement to the front page

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[flash]

I think we need to sticky the Brighton deal announcement to the front page

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I don't care what the agreement says it should still ensure good channels of communication between the clubs.

[Greenworld]

I guess the question is why wasn't there enough time though? The transfer deadline is not a secret, presumably Hibs were well aware of the player for a long time. Blaming a lack of time only really works if something is thrown at you last minute. Hibs must have an idea of how long deals take, and should act with that understanding. I can't turn round to my boss and say ah well it was really complicated to get bit of work done I've known about for months so I've just missed the deadline. I'd get in bother for that.

BTW I'm not that fussed about McGrath. I am happy we are keeping Scotty and felt any new additions should have been upfront.This player only became available late on yesterday he was going elsewhere I believe . You have 2 players to deal with going out and a cash deal to agree in top of that it would have been great business all round .

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[Gatecrasher]

Do we actually have a recruitment team? The whole summer to find a forward and, yet again, we come out of the window a player short in that area.
We now have Gullan, Wright and Allan fully aware that they are only still at the club on sufferance.
Meanwhile we have a "partnership" with Brighton yet three other SPL clubs, including our two main rivals, get players from them and we don't despite being in real need.
I am really happy we kept all our prize assets but last night was not our finest hour that's for sure.

It's a joke :agree:

Yes we made what looks like a couple of good signings but yet again we are short in key areas.

[Since452]

Am I the only one who thinks it's been a very good window? Happy with our squad.

[Callum_62]

I don't care what the agreement says it should still ensure good channels of communication between the clubs.Was any not the players loaned to our rivals a striker? I've not checked but I think hearts got a left back and Aberdeen a sitting midfielder

Not sure who St Johnstone got?

If Allan or Wright take umbrage at being involved in a deal out then they are pretty unprofessional

I'd be surprised if they had no idea it was possible for them to go based on there very limited appearances and likley they both want more playing time

Its up to them to knuckle down again until January

I certainly wouldn't knock the club for (what appears) almost signing a player that will Likely be outwith our reach come the next window





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[Borderhibbie76]

Do we actually have a recruitment team? The whole summer to find a forward and, yet again, we come out of the window a player short in that area.
We now have Gullan, Wright and Allan fully aware that they are only still at the club on sufferance.
Meanwhile we have a "partnership" with Brighton yet three other SPL clubs, including our two main rivals, get players from them and we don't despite being in real need.
I am really happy we kept all our prize assets but last night was not our finest hour that's for sure.

This is where I'm at with it...all of August on here we had posters defending Mathie and hisbteam saying be patient and wait good players become available towards end of window- yet the rabbit up their sleeve was wait for it...another St Mirren player? And we wait so late to try and make it happen. Shambles that we failed to sign the forward we desperately needed and our season is now deffo at risk because of it. Club showed great ambition keeping our top players yet we have 2 fit strikers till Jan

[Nicho87]

Sad that we no longer see Allan as a part of the future.

Comes on and sets up a goal on Saturday , 3 days later offered to st Mirren.

[Jim44]

Gonna feel a bit awkward for Wright and Scotty in training knowing they’re not really wanted…

That’s not true. They would have been part of a deal which they had previously asked for or consented to. By all means, they might bear grudges for not getting the deal over the line but they won’t feel unwanted.

[flash]

Am I the only one who thinks it's been a very good window? Happy with our squad.

To me it's almost a really good window.
My issue is we replaced Doidge with Scott which still left us a striker short.
We have known about this since the start of last season yet failed to address it for three windows in a row.
The manager said repeatedly he wanted another forward yet here we are one injury away from a bad situation.

[Callum_62]

Am I the only one who thinks it's been a very good window? Happy with our squad.No, you arnt

We kept all our best players and added some decent ones to it

We have had a bad time with injuries but when we get most of our squad back we are in a really decent place

Mueller done for January too as well as the kid from raith

Real shame we seemed to have missed mcgrath when everyone was keen on the deal

Overall I really like the way we are going with signings, usually youngish and mobile

If we added mcgrath into our side our middle to front would have been very very good



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[Stanton Spence]

Am I the only one who thinks it's been a very good window? Happy with our squad.I don't think it's been a disaster off a window and we kept hold of our top men and extended Boyles deal which is fantastic we also brought in a lot of potential and JDH looks like a real find. I just think that a lot of fans expected at least another two would have came in yesterday.
This whole botched deals caper late last night along with the rumours about LG has put a bit of a dampener on things though for a few folk

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[Borderhibbie76]

That’s not true. They would have been part of a deal which they had previously asked for or consented to. By all means, they might bear grudges for not getting the deal over the line but they won’t feel unwanted.

You think?? Hardly our greatest end to a window that's fir sure...now left with 3 players in Gullan, Wright and Allan who know they are not really wanted yet due to our failure to sign a forward we are gonna need to rely on between now and Jan

[Callum_62]

I read a few time last night about hearts and Aberdeen depth

Who do hearts have upfront?

Boyce and Gnaduillet?

Aberdeen?
Ramirez, Jet and Watkins

Hibs
Nisbet, Scott, Doidge(injured)

Is there really that much difference when Boyle can also play there?

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[neil7908]

To me it's almost a really good window.
My issue is we replaced Doidge with Scott which still left us a striker short.
We have known about this since the start of last season yet failed to address it for three windows in a row.
The manager said repeatedly he wanted another forward yet here we are one injury away from a bad situation.

I'm really pleased. Like you I just feel we are light up top. Delighted with retaining so many key players though. If Nisbet stays fit we'll be fine. If he gets a bad injury we're going to be in a bit of bother.

[Callum_62]

You think?? Hardly our greatest end to a window that's fir sure...now left with 3 players in Gullan, Wright and Allan who know they are not really wanted yet due to our failure to sign a forward we are gonna need to rely on between now and JanYou don't think they were aware of that with how many minutes they have been given?

It seems to all agreed to the deal too so I imagine they are disappointed it hasn't went through

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[Greenworld]

Sad that we no longer see Allan as a part of the future.

Comes on and sets up a goal on Saturday , 3 days later offered to st Mirren.You must know his levels have dropped and he cannot do it at Hibs . He agreed to move so I think he is well aware he needs to drop down a bit

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[flash]

You don't think they were aware of that with how many minutes they have been given?

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The problem is though Callum what do we do if Nisbet gets a bad one?

[Callum_62]

The problem is though Callum what do we do if Nisbet gets a bad one?What do hearts do if boyce gets a bad one or Aberdeen if Ramirez gets a bad one?

We got a bad one in doidge already

If nizzy gets injured we will likely play Boyle up top and Cadden out wide

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[May21/05/216]

I'm quite happy we have kept our best players and hopefully Ron doesn't do social media as some of the comments are poor because if the previous custodians of the club been still in charge we would not have still had them Porto nesbitt would have been sold last year and Boyle and doig would have been transferred this window

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[Greenworld]

I don't think it's been a disaster off a window and we kept hold of our top men and extended Boyles deal which is fantastic we also brought in a lot of potential and JDH looks like a real find. I just think that a lot of fans expected at least another two would have came in yesterday.
This whole botched deals caper late last night along with the rumours about LG has put a bit of a dampener on things though for a few folk

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[Souter96Mac]

Missed all the late drama, but I'm chuffed we've managed to keep Nisbet and Doig.

Any news on what's happened with the Dylan Tait bid?

[flash]

What do hearts do if boyce gets a bad one or Aberdeen if Ramirez gets a bad one?

We got a bad one in doidge already

If nizzy gets injured we will likely play Boyle up top and Cadden out wide

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Not bring Gullan in then.

[Stanton Spence]

Is it 100% confirmed dead or do hibs have an opportunity to talk to the sfa this morning. Seemed to me hibs were confident they had it done on time?

Sent from my SM-G975U1 using TapatalkI've not got a clue bud. I sat up last night until five past midnight and I didn't see anything about these deals until I woke up this morning hoping to find out we signed someone and read about the Mcgrath saga.
I hope we can still get this done he's a player that would make a difference at hibs I reckon

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[Callum_62]

Missed all the late drama, but I'm chuffed we've managed to keep Nisbet and Doig.

Any news on what's happened with the Dylan Tait bid?I think we signed him with a loan back to raith

Nothing official though

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[Callum_62]

Not bring Gullan in then.That's a choice for the manager but for me, no

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[Since452]

Sad that we no longer see Allan as a part of the future.

Comes on and sets up a goal on Saturday , 3 days later offered to st Mirren.

His all round game isn't good enough anymore sadly. The goal wasn't down to Allan.

[weecounty hibby]

So we have kept Boyle, Nisbet, Porteous and Doig. I would say we have had a very good window when you look at the additions. Missed out on what looks like a very complex signing, with 3 x players and 2 x clubs having to agree the deal, by a few minutes. Overall pleased with that

[Borderhibbie76]

Am not so sure the club deserve the credit they are getting for keeping Doig, Porto and Nisbet - don't think our resolve was really tested tbh with either Nisbet or Porto and I actually think we actively wanted to sell Doig and it never happened. Could be wrong but it feels like our signings hinged on Doig going. I'm delighted all 3 are still here and might change my mind if we get Nisbet on a new deal but not sure our resolve was really tested tbh. Keeping Boyle tho was great business

[KeithTheHibby]

To me it's almost a really good window.
My issue is we replaced Doidge with Scott which still left us a striker short.
We have known about this since the start of last season yet failed to address it for three windows in a row.
The manager said repeatedly he wanted another forward yet here we are one injury away from a bad situation.


I disagree.

We have Nisbet, Scott and Gullan available plus Boyle who can play through the middle if need be. We have Doidge and Mueller available in 3/4 months time.
On occasions we only play 1 up top so I don’t or haven’t bought into the ‘we need another striker’ brigade when it’s quite clear we have enough up top to help us through a crisis.

[Heisenberg]

I think we signed him with a loan back to raith

Nothing official though

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Article I just read said we are hopeful of the SFA approving the Tait deal. Not a clue how that happens now but there we are.

As others have said I think it’s a good window but could’ve been better. Not signing the striker/forward player Ross wanted could end up costing us between now and January. Can’t see us having any chance with McGrath then either.

[flash]

That's a choice for the manager but for me, no

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I agree and there's the problem. We would rather move the best winger in the country out of position than play our back up striker.

[flash]

I disagree.

We have Nisbet, Scott and Gullan available plus Boyle who can play through the middle if need be. We have Doidge and Mueller available in 3/4 months time.
On occasions we only play 1 up top so I don’t or haven’t bought into the ‘we need another striker’ brigade when it’s quite clear we have enough up top to help us through a crisis.

Thing is Keith that brigade includes the manager.

[allmodcons]

This forum will be toxic if we lose at Tynecastle. I really don't get what some posters want. How often over the last 30 years have Hibs been able to hold on to their best players? This was a good window, not because of who we brought but because of who we've held on to.

[Callum_62]

I agree and there's the problem. We would rather move the best winger in the country out of position than play our back up striker.Our first 2 strikers are Scott and Nisbet

We often play 1 up top of we could just play Scott

Boyle proved last year he can play up top

Anyway it's all hypothetical as at the moment we have the best winger in the country and the best striker in the country outside the OF

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[flash]

Our first 2 strikers are Scott and Nisbet

We often play 1 up top of we could just play Scott

Boyle proved last year he can play up top

Anyway it's all hypothetical as at the moment we have the best winger in the country and the best striker in the country outside the OF

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We are lucky to have them both. Surely you can see why I am concerned though.

[Mr. Wonderful]

I disagree.

We have Nisbet, Scott and Gullan available plus Boyle who can play through the middle if need be. We have Doidge and Mueller available in 3/4 months time.
On occasions we only play 1 up top so I don’t or haven’t bought into the ‘we need another striker’ brigade when it’s quite clear we have enough up top to help us through a crisis.

A lot of people have taken from JR saying he wanted an attacking option that he actually wanted a striker. An attacking player could be anything from an advanced midfield or winger to an all out striker.

The way I see it, we were looking for an attacking option to come in until Ferris Mueller arrives. If that did happen, Gullan/Wright or both could leave.

[Northernhibee]

I’m actually really pleased we tried to pull off an audacious hijack of a deal when a big move elsewhere feel through. Opportunistic, even if it didn’t pay off.

[Callum_62]

We are lucky to have them both. Surely you can see why I am concerned though.You want 3 first team strikers

I'm fairly comfortable with our options up top

I don't see either hearts or Aberdeen as ahead of us in that department

I'm more gutted we didn't get mcgrath

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[neil7908]

This forum will be toxic if we lose at Tynecastle. I really don't get what some posters want. How often over the last 30 years have Hibs been able to hold on to their best players? This was a good window, not because of who we brought but because of who we've held on to.

If Hearts are as pish as everyone has said then the derby should be straight forward.

[bingo70]

Our first 2 strikers are Scott and Nisbet

We often play 1 up top of we could just play Scott

Boyle proved last year he can play up top

Anyway it's all hypothetical as at the moment we have the best winger in the country and the best striker in the country outside the OF

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From what I’ve seen of Scott he doesn’t strike me as someone that can play up front himself. We also don’t know how long Murphy is going to be out for so Scott could be needed on the left.

One injury to Nisbet and we’re shuffling players about, also means we’ve got very limited options off the bench to change a game that’s not going our way. Daniel Mackay looks like he’s likely to be a longer project and not sure he’s quite ready for where we’re at just now but even then, he’s just one player.

Keeping players or not this has been a poor window IMO and the lack of options up front will cost us, again IMO.

[Hibernian Verse]

Are there any precedents set for McGrath signing today?

[Gatecrasher]

If Hearts are as pish as everyone has said then the derby should be straight forward.

They're not, some hibs fans like to pretend they are but even at their worst they are up for a Derby, just look at the start to their season. . I'm not saying we'll lose gut it definitely won't be a stroll.

[JimBHibees]

Are there any precedents set for McGrath signing today?

Assume Hibs would need to prove they had submitted the correct information.

[Callum_62]

Il be very interested to hear what actually happened with the mcgrath deal

Some journos saying hibs thought they had done enough so be good to hear what what missed or what was late

Its a real shame as I'm sure he would progress into a big money player

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[Borderhibbie76]

This forum will be toxic if we lose at Tynecastle. I really don't get what some posters want. How often over the last 30 years have Hibs been able to hold on to their best players? This was a good window, not because of who we brought but because of who we've held on to.

This forum is always toxic when we lose regardless of who it's against and transfer windows mate...that will never change sadly. Agreed tho it will certainly be best avoided if we do lose the Derby..

[hibeejeebies]

Anyone know what kind of midfielder Dylan Tait is?

Cheers.

[flash]

Assume Hibs would need to prove they had submitted the correct information.

And on time I think.

[Greenworld]

And on time I think.Rod Petrie will approve it in exuberant style

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[Fuzzywuzzy]

Assume Hibs would need to prove they had submitted the correct information.

Is this going to be like the Dundee email??

[Greenworld]

Is this going to be like the Dundee email??Yes the sfa computer clock was 2 minutes fast . It will rectified this morning and the deal passed as ok

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[Callum_62]

Anyone know what kind of midfielder Dylan Tait is?

Cheers.No idea but rovers fans ain't pleased [emoji23]

From rovers forum

Is Tait away ?
sitting here with a lighter in one hand and season ticket in the other, and don’t know what to do [emoji2369]

Seems obvious he'll be gone. Club will herald the fact that he will be half heartedly sticking around to January, a relative pittance for the length of contract we just sold out and will wiggle their eyebrows knowingly about add ons.
Still, its a kick in the teeth. The club can't talk about ambition on the one hand and then sell on a guy who is a creative player, someone we could build a side around and our*most likely monetary asset for hee haw at the first sign of interest. Seems like Sim is first and only interested in infrastructure - that's his ambition, what he sees as a way of ultimately making the club sustainable without realising that people turn up to watch a team win a game of football.

Hibs know he'll be worth more in January, we've lifted our petticoats a wee bit early if the deal is true.

If we are genuinely going to accept the first ****ing bid for our best prospect then we are a tin pot pile of ***** club with no intention of progressing who need deleted. Pathetic



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[He's here!]

Re strikers, what about Gullan? Is this not the time he should be seizing the chance to make his mark? Or is the general consensus that he's not quite good enough? I thought he was a hugely promising player when he was coming through the ranks.

[Callum_62]

Re strikers, what about Gullan? Is this not the time he should be seizing the chance to make his mark? Or is the general consensus that he's not quite good enough? I thought he was a hugely promising player when he was coming through the ranks.For me he isn't good enough but it's up to him to prove me if he gets a chance

I've said it a few times but I don't see our rivals as overflowing with good strikers either

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[Hibernian Verse]

No idea but rovers fans ain't pleased [emoji23]

From rovers forum

Is Tait away ?
sitting here with a lighter in one hand and season ticket in the other, and don’t know what to do [emoji2369]

Seems obvious he'll be gone. Club will herald the fact that he will be half heartedly sticking around to January, a relative pittance for the length of contract we just sold out and will wiggle their eyebrows knowingly about add ons.
Still, its a kick in the teeth. The club can't talk about ambition on the one hand and then sell on a guy who is a creative player, someone we could build a side around and our*most likely monetary asset for hee haw at the first sign of interest. Seems like Sim is first and only interested in infrastructure - that's his ambition, what he sees as a way of ultimately making the club sustainable without realising that people turn up to watch a team win a game of football.

Hibs know he'll be worth more in January, we've lifted our petticoats a wee bit early if the deal is true.

If we are genuinely going to accept the first ****ing bid for our best prospect then we are a tin pot pile of ***** club with no intention of progressing who need deleted. Pathetic



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That's a flashback to when we sold the Golden Generation and built a training centre :greengrin

[el hibs]

How far off signing Kerr do you think we were financially? I realise I'm asking for guess work but do wonder as think he would have made a a big impact on the team and the push to hold onto 3rd.

[bingo70]

So going into the Hearts game, if you assume Murphys injury will keep him out longer than a fortnight, we will likely have Boyle on the right, Nisbet centre and Scott on the left. That in itself isn’t a disaster but on the bench our attacking options would just be Gullane who Ross clearly doesn’t rate.

Obviously we’d have wingers or midfielders like Mackay, Allan and Wright but that’s still very very poor.

I can’t believe people don’t think we need another forward, all very well saying it’s only for 3 or 4 months but our season could be a write off by then.

I know we rarely do it but we need to find a free agent as another option.

[Callum_62]

So going into the Hearts game, if you assume Murphys injury will keep him out longer than a fortnight, we will likely have Boyle on the right, Nisbet centre and Scott on the left. That in itself isn’t a disaster but on the bench our attacking options would just be Gullane who Ross clearly doesn’t rate.

Obviously we’d have wingers or midfielders like Mackay, Allan and Wright but that’s still very very poor.

I can’t believe people don’t think we need another forward, all very well saying it’s only for 3 or 4 months but our season could be a write off by then.

I know we rarely do it but we need to find a free agent as another option.Cadden might be back to, so we have the Boyle up top option

He does like a goal at tynecastle too....

If Murphy was injured I do wish we were lining up with

Nisbet
Mcgrath Magennis and Boyle



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[LeithMike]

Like the ambition with Tait and McGrath even if we didnt get the latter over the line.

I can live without a striker. JR seems to prefer 1 up front and we have 4 in Doidge, Nisbet, Scott and Gullan. Yes, Doidge is out and that's a bad break but that's football. I'd prefer a really strong first xi rather than a good first xi and stronger squad. Injuries is where you have the chance to blood youngsters.

The one thing I would have liked to have seen was for us to get Kerr. £500k with £5k a week as has been mooted when it seems likely he was well out of our range would have been a sound investment and someone to build the club around. Still, we might have tried.

We've not pulled away from Hearts and Aberdeen when there was a real chance but we should still be competitive for third.

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[Northernhibee]

25027

Apparently Ron's tour of HTC took far too long for McGrath.

[Callum_62]

Just realised Aberdeen didn't lose Ferguson either

Big for them keeping him

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[Callum_62]

Anyone know what kind of midfielder Dylan Tait is?

Cheers.https://fmdataba.com/21/p/591374/dylan-tait/

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[hibee1875]

Have we actually signed Tait?

I have a glimmer of hope the McGrath deal will go through today after reading on Twitter Hibs believed they had all the paperwork in on time.

[calumhibee1]

That’s a real disappointment not getting a striker in.

We’re really short in there until Doidge is back imo as Scott doesn’t look like a striker and Boyle is miles from being a lone striker and would also be a huge loss out wide.

[Callum_62]

That’s a real disappointment not getting a striker in.

We’re really short in there until Doidge is back imo as Scott doesn’t look like a striker and Boyle is miles from being a lone striker and would also be a huge loss out wide.What do you think Scott looks like?

I thought he was poor last week but pretty decent at Dundee

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[calumhibee1]

What do you think Scott looks like?

I thought he was poor last week but pretty decent at Dundee

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Not an out and out striker.

He looks like he should be playing off of a striker based on the very limited amount I’ve seen him, most likely out wide, but not a lone centre forward.

[PatHead]

Have we actually signed Tait?

I have a glimmer of hope the McGrath deal will go through today after reading on Twitter Hibs believed they had all the paperwork in on time.

Can only assume that St Mirren didn't get theirs done so the deal is off.

[Callum_62]

Not an out and out striker.

He looks like he should be playing off of a striker based on the very limited amount I’ve seen him, most likely out wide, but not a lone centre forward.Without jumping the gun I thought he played similarly to nisbet, in terms of dropping off into the 10 etc

Be interesting to watch him. Hopefully 2 weeks on the training pitch help him bed in

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[EdinburghHibern]

Daz - past it

Doig - possibly away

Cadden - crocked

Murphy - crocked

Gogic - horrendous

Hallberg - Houdini

Wright - sheeeiite

Nisbet - possibly away

Doidge - Injured until at least December

Gullane - signed for Killy has he not?


Spot on.

What a disaster of a window from Hibs.

[Callum_62]

Spot on.

What a disaster of a window from Hibs.Yep he couldn't have been anymore correct

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[matty_f]

Spot on.

What a disaster of a window from Hibs.

A disaster? Give over!

[Heisenberg]

Spot on.

What a disaster of a window from Hibs.

It’s nowhere close to being a disaster. It definitely could’ve been better though.

[PatHead]

Spot on.

What a disaster of a window from Hibs.

Apart from Doig, Nisbet and Gullan still being here for a start.

[keep the faith]

Spot on.

What a disaster of a window from Hibs.

We have a great squad. What you on about man!

[Since452]

Spot on.

What a disaster of a window from Hibs.

Yet we're sitting top of the league. Mental...

[Northernhibee]

It’s been a good window. If anyone had told me that we’d still have Nisbet, Boyle, Doig and Porto whilst adding in goals, defence, midfield, out wide and up front I wouldn’t have believed you.

[stokesmessiah]

I honestly can’t believe some folk on this site. How anyone can call this window a disaster is beyond me….we are miles away from the transfer windows we used to have, they were real disasters. The fact we have kept our biggest assets together over the summer window is a huge plus?!!

[flash]

Spot on.

What a disaster of a window from Hibs.

Hardly a disaster keeping our best players. Could have been better but nowhere near a disaster.

[Callum_62]

I honestly can’t believe some folk on this site. How anyone can call this window a disaster is beyond me….we are miles away from the transfer windows we used to have, they were real disasters. The fact we have kept our biggest assets together over the summer window is a huge plus?!!The words disaster, joke and disgrace are way overused

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[Tricla]

It’s been a good window. If anyone had told me that we’d still have Nisbet, Boyle, Doig and Porto whilst adding in goals, defence, midfield, out wide and up front I wouldn’t have believed you.

Agreed. However, lets not let the truth get in the way of some people bashing the club at every opportunity.

[weecounty hibby]

I'm amazed at how many folk think that unless you sign 10 new players and move on another dozen then you've had a nightmare. You will never build a sustainable, improving, team if you do that. We've tried that in the past and it hasn't worked, hearts have tried it and it hasnr worked. Hibs had a decent window and kept our stars and brought in good players as well

[flash]

Does anyone know definitively if the Dylan Tait deal went through?
That's my kind of signing.

[jacomo]

Ah well.

Slightly bonkers finish there but we are hardly the first club to fail to get a deal across the line in the final minutes of a window.

We seem obsessed with attacking midfielders which is all well and good, but a bit curious given lack of cover elsewhere, but hanging onto all our most coveted players is huge.

We will need a bit of luck with injuries but we’ve got an exciting group of players.

[hibee1875]

I think EdinburghHibern’s post is tongue in cheek to the nonsense post they’re quoting…

[bingo70]

We have a great squad. What you on about man!

I think our starting 11 is as strong as it’s been in a long time so it’s not been a disaster but I would disagree about it being a great squad.

Very poor options off the bench to change a game and IMO we’re one injury to Nisbet away from being in real bother.

[Since452]

It’s been a good window. If anyone had told me that we’d still have Nisbet, Boyle, Doig and Porto whilst adding in goals, defence, midfield, out wide and up front I wouldn’t have believed you.

Yup. I'd have been stunned if i knew we were keeping all our best players. We now don't have to rely on Daz either and Cadden is back in full training. We look very good all over the park. Glad we didn't sign a forward for the sake of it.

[Jones28]

A disaster 😂😂😂

Here’s a disaster: Soares, Claros, Doherty, O’donovan, Kujabi. Mind that transfer window? That was a disaster.

[500miles]

So Guy Melamed coming in as cover?

[calumhibee1]

Without jumping the gun I thought he played similarly to nisbet, in terms of dropping off into the 10 etc

Be interesting to watch him. Hopefully 2 weeks on the training pitch help him bed in

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Yeah we’ll see how he settles in. His goals record throughout his career doesn’t make me think he’ll be used as a centre forward but it looks like he’ll need to be!

[Stanton Spence]

Definitely not a disaster off a window, I think the injury situation we have right now seems to make it a lot worse than it is

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[BILLYHIBS]

Maybes we should just head hunt the St Mirren recruitment team and cut out the middle man

I am sure Jack knows them all by first name anyways

Simples !

[bod]

Signed a David Mitchell from Clyde at 7mins to midnight according to the bbc website

[Since452]

I'm amazed at how many folk think that unless you sign 10 new players and move on another dozen then you've had a nightmare. You will never build a sustainable, improving, team if you do that. We've tried that in the past and it hasn't worked, hearts have tried it and it hasnr worked. Hibs had a decent window and kept our stars and brought in good players as well

Folk get so hung up on deadline day

[Andy74]

A disaster 😂😂😂

Here’s a disaster: Soares, Claros, Doherty, O’donovan, Kujabi. Mind that transfer window? That was a disaster.

It wasn’t really. It was the windows before that where we created a team that was on a trajectory of going down. That lot were better than what was here and kept us up.

[lord bunberry]

Am I the only one who thinks it's been a very good window? Happy with our squad.
No I’m delighted at where we are. If you’d told me none of our players would leave I’d have bitten your hand off. I’m certainly not going to ,one my **** over not bringing in some journeyman striker to be back up to our main forwards, we’ve got plenty options up front.

[BILLYHIBS]

Does anyone know definitively if the Dylan Tait deal went through?
That's my kind of signing.
Yip 100k loaned back till Jan 2022

[Since452]

A disaster 😂😂😂

Here’s a disaster: Soares, Claros, Doherty, O’donovan, Kujabi. Mind that transfer window? That was a disaster.

Ah the good old scattergun approach.

[BILLYHIBS]

Signed a David Mitchell from Clyde at 7mins to midnight according to the bbc website
31 year old goalie

[SMAXXA]

31 year old goalie

Does it matter his age he’s number 3 option with plenty experience

[Ringothedog]

Spot on.

What a disaster of a window from Hibs.

Apart from-
Doig still here
Cadden now fit
Porteous Still here
Nisbet Still here
Gullan Still here

[bingo70]

Yet we're sitting top of the league. Mental...

We’re 4 games in, the complaints are to do with the lack of squad depth, particularly up front. The fact we’re top of the league now is neither here nor there. I think we were top of the league or close to it at this stage under Jim Duffy the season we got relegated. Not that I’m saying we are getting relegated this year.

We are in a great position to build on a really good core to the team but IMO we’ve left ourselves way short up front and that will come back to bite us. The fact we’ve known we needed another forward for so long but still never got one is a big disappointment, especially when Ross was even saying we needed another forward.

Keeping our players is great but maybe in terms of the balance of the squad it would have helped us more to have sold one of them that would have allowed us to bring in replacements for the whole squad. Right now we have an unbalanced squad lacking any depth up front. Thats not what happens at the end of a really good transfer window IMO.

[hibIBZ]

Spot on.

What a disaster of a window from Hibs.

I'm really not sure how it is a disaster. We retained our best players from last season that got us 3rd place and to the Scottish cup final. We have strengthened in defence, midfield and attack. I think we needed a striker/forward without a doubt and we were clearly trying to get one, so that is disappointing, but a disaster it certainly is not

[BILLYHIBS]

Does it matter his age he’s number 3 option with plenty experience

I thought it obvious that was the back up goalie we signed earlier in the day just hoping quoting the age would jog his memory

Hope he goes on to lift the Scottish Cup

Age is nothing to a goalie look at Budgie

Calm doon

[bingo70]

Apart from-
Doig still here
Cadden now fit
Porteous Still here
Nisbet Still here
Gullan Still here

Why is Gullan still being here being heralded as a positive? He doesn’t play?

If a game needs changed Ross will put on Stevenson before him.

[flash]

Yip 100k loaned back till Jan 2022

I can't find official confirmation of that anywhere.

[EdinburghHibern]

We didn't fully address positions in need.

[Billy Whizz]

Why is Gullan still being here being heralded as a positive? He doesn’t play?

If a game needs changed Ross will put on Stevenson before him.

Brutal for Jamie as it was pulled late on. Think championship clubs can still have loans though

[Peevemor]

Does it matter his age he’s number 3 option with plenty experience

It looks like the idea of him playing is almost secondary.

“David will work hard, drive the standard in training, compete with our other two goalkeepers, and help progress them as they continue to develop.”

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/david-mitchell-adds-depth-to-goalkeeping-department

[bod]

31 year old goalie

Cheers

[PatHead]

I'm really not sure how it is a disaster. We retained our best players from last season that got us 3rd place and to the Scottish cup final. We have strengthened in defence, midfield and attack. I think we needed a striker/forward without a doubt and we were clearly trying to get one, so that is disappointing, but a disaster it certainly is not

Think it was more important to hold onto Nisbet than get another one in. Ideally another would have been good but it is like complaining that you didn't get everything on your Christmas list when you were a kid.

[The Count]

Some folk are judging the window on the last 48 hours.If you judge it since it opened we have kept our valuable players and added decent players to the squad.If I was being picky i would of liked another Centre forward.I also suspect Hibs thought Doig was going and part of the money from his sale would of been reinvested in the squad eg Mccart.It never transpired so Hibs had to cut their cloth accordingly.

[FilipinoHibs]

How far off signing Kerr do you think we were financially? I realise I'm asking for guess work but do wonder as think he would have made a a big impact on the team and the push to hold onto 3rd.

Wigan wages 2k to 8k a week. So think the wages would have been the issue.

[FilipinoHibs]

Why is Gullan still being here being heralded as a positive? He doesn’t play?

If a game needs changed Ross will put on Stevenson before him.

He puts him on replace Doig when he either tires or is getting exposed by the oppo wide player.

[degenerated]

So Guy Melamed coming in as cover?That would be good, he looks a player as well.

[Lee Marvin]

My transfer window report card;

First month - 7/10

Key player retention - 10/10

Last 2 months - 2/10

[FilipinoHibs]

I'm amazed at how many folk think that unless you sign 10 new players and move on another dozen then you've had a nightmare. You will never build a sustainable, improving, team if you do that. We've tried that in the past and it hasn't worked, hearts have tried it and it hasnr worked. Hibs had a decent window and kept our stars and brought in good players as well

It's the must have instantly generation.

[Borderhibbie76]

My transfer window report card;

First month - 7/10

Key player retention - 10/10

Last 2 months - 2/10

Excellent summary

[SaulGoodman]

Obviously the happy clappers are going to be alright with this shambolic disaster of a transfer window.

If they want to accept mediocrity that’s fine. However I want what’s best for OUR club.

Ron needs to start putting his hands in his pockets and PONY UP.

[hibbyfraelibby]

All this angst about not signing another bench warmer as a back up, back up striker led me to consider the final league game of last season when JR played Melker Hallberg up front as a lone striker in the Christian Doidge mould and it seemed to work. Maybe there is a plan B

[hibeejeebies]

No idea but rovers fans ain't pleased [emoji23]

From rovers forum

Is Tait away ?
sitting here with a lighter in one hand and season ticket in the other, and don’t know what to do [emoji2369]

Seems obvious he'll be gone. Club will herald the fact that he will be half heartedly sticking around to January, a relative pittance for the length of contract we just sold out and will wiggle their eyebrows knowingly about add ons.
Still, its a kick in the teeth. The club can't talk about ambition on the one hand and then sell on a guy who is a creative player, someone we could build a side around and our*most likely monetary asset for hee haw at the first sign of interest. Seems like Sim is first and only interested in infrastructure - that's his ambition, what he sees as a way of ultimately making the club sustainable without realising that people turn up to watch a team win a game of football.

Hibs know he'll be worth more in January, we've lifted our petticoats a wee bit early if the deal is true.

If we are genuinely going to accept the first ****ing bid for our best prospect then we are a tin pot pile of ***** club with no intention of progressing who need deleted. Pathetic



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😬

Sounds promising tho 👍🏻

[BILLYHIBS]

I can't find official confirmation of that anywhere.

Moira Gordon EEN on Twitter

It must be true :confused:

[Ray_]

Am not so sure the club deserve the credit they are getting for keeping Doig, Porto and Nisbet - don't think our resolve was really tested tbh with either Nisbet or Porto and I actually think we actively wanted to sell Doig and it never happened. Could be wrong but it feels like our signings hinged on Doig going. I'm delighted all 3 are still here and might change my mind if we get Nisbet on a new deal but not sure our resolve was really tested tbh. Keeping Boyle tho was great business

The fact that Hibs showed they weren't going to be the same push-overs they had in the past was the major reason for the lack of resolve!

[660]

Obviously the happy clappers are going to be alright with this shambolic disaster of a transfer window.

If they want to accept mediocrity that’s fine. However I want what’s best for OUR club.

Ron needs to start putting his hands in his pockets and PONY UP.

Hahahah

[Since452]

So Guy Melamed coming in as cover?

Is this being reported or just a thought?

[Lago]

My transfer window report card;

First month - 7/10

Key player retention - 10/10

Last 2 months - 2/10
Pretty much sums it up, I can't deny a certain degree of disappointment though.

[bigwheel]

My transfer window report card;

First month - 7/10

Key player retention - 10/10

Last 2 months - 2/10

That’s a harsh last score ..Scott and Wood could well end up being important decent quality additions …we’ve certainly addressed most of the key areas ..let’s see how they go

[lord bunberry]

Obviously the happy clappers are going to be alright with this shambolic disaster of a transfer window.

If they want to accept mediocrity that’s fine. However I want what’s best for OUR club.

Ron needs to start putting his hands in his pockets and PONY UP.
You can’t be serious with that surely?

[Greenworld]

Does anyone know definitively if the Dylan Tait deal went through?
That's my kind of signing.Cannot see anything confirming at raith or Hibs end strange.

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[SlickShoes]

Folk that think we should have added many more players, how big a squad should we have? we can't afford to have two first teams worth of quality players. It's just never going to happen. We have been hit hard by injuries and just have to deal with that.

I'd say the only negative of this window is that we didn't swap Gullan out for someone a bit better, he clearly needs to move on and we need better cover.

[mayo hibee]

It looks like the idea of him playing is almost secondary.

“David will work hard, drive the standard in training, compete with our other two goalkeepers, and help progress them as they continue to develop.”

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/david-mitchell-adds-depth-to-goalkeeping-department

He's basically a training keeper, will probably never play a game. Training keepers are all the rage these days for some reason.

[degenerated]

Obviously the happy clappers are going to be alright with this shambolic disaster of a transfer window.

If they want to accept mediocrity that’s fine. However I want what’s best for OUR club.

Ron needs to start putting his hands in his pockets and PONY UP.:hilarious

[The Harp Awakes]

Botch makes you think we'd entered info incorrectly. Like Scott Allen or something. We missed the deadline.

So dumb that it hasn't been approved when all players and both clubs were happy with the deal!

The failure of the McGrath deal is really disappointing but it sounds like the opportunity only arose with an hour on the clock due to his move to Middlesbrough collapsing. Trying to sort a deal between 3 players in that time sounds a tall order so I don't think you can criticise the club on that one.

Keeping all our best players is also a big positive so well done Hibs on that score.

Failing to sign a striker though looks a total failure. We've had months to sort that out and it sounds like we were scrambling around at the end trying to do a deal. Not securing cover at right back is also poor and I'm not convinced the loan signing of a 19 year old is really what we need in central defence.

So a real mixed bag of a transfer window for me.

[calumhibee1]

The failure of the McGrath deal is really disappointing but it sounds like the opportunity only arose with an hour on the clock due to his move to Middlesbrough collapsing. Trying to sort a deal between 3 players in that time sounds a tall order so I don't think you can criticise the club on that one.

Keeping all our best players is also a big positive so well done Hibs on that score.

Failing to sign a striker though looks a total failure. We've had months to sort that out and it sounds like we were scrambling around at the end trying to do a deal. Not securing cover at right back is also poor and I'm not convinced the loan signing of a 19 year old is really what we need in central defence.

So a real mixed bag of a transfer window for me.

I’d agree with that.

By no means a disaster due to keeping players but definitely not everything a lot of fans or our manager had hoped for.

6/10 overall.

[PatHead]

I think that the last minute nature of the McGrath deal highlights how the transfer deadline works. He wasn't available until the last minute as he had other "offers" which fell through.

We felt he was an improvement on what we had so went for it. A position we all felt we were well covered in.

Similarly with Jamie Gullan, supposedly Killie wanted him but we couldn't get the replacement we wanted before letting him go. We therefore didn't sell and they had to look elsewhere.

It isn't always as simple as just signing someone.

[Unseen work]

Can’t help but think the silence from Hibs is weird. Not transfer round up as of yet.

Are the appealing the McGrath decision? Maybe waiting till that’s done before doing the round up.

Dylan Tait? Is he signed or not? Is he also away back on loan?

[500miles]

Is this being reported or just a thought?

Just a thought. He's left St Johnstone and seemed a good player once he got up to speed. He's a free agent, and getting him in for the season would allow Gullan to go out on loan.

[One Day Soon]

Given that the manager explicitly stated he wanted us to sign another striker - which we didn’t do - I’d say that we have a rather worrying striker-shaped hole in our squad.

Trying to sign McGrath was audacious but we can’t pick ‘nearly got McGrath’ on Saturday. Other than that, a decent window. I say other than that but if Doidge is out until December we’re talking about around 14 games in which we need to hope neither of our forwards loses form or is injured. That’s half of the remainder of our season…

[bingo70]

I think that the last minute nature of the McGrath deal highlights how the transfer deadline works. He wasn't available until the last minute as he had other "offers" which fell through.

We felt he was an improvement on what we had so went for it. A position we all felt we were well covered in.

Similarly with Jamie Gullan, supposedly Killie wanted him but we couldn't get the replacement we wanted before letting him go. We therefore didn't sell and they had to look elsewhere.

It isn't always as simple as just signing someone.

So if McGrath didn’t come available we just would have let the window slam shut.

When we’ve needed another forward for as long as we have, we shouldn’t have been scrambling about in the last hour of a transfer window that’s been open for months.

I would have got it if we’d received a great bid for Nisbet at the last minute but we never. To not have deals ready to drop is a terrible reflection on the transfer department IMO.

Don’t really care that it’s a hard thing to do, that’s their job and what they’re paid to do.

[lord bunberry]

Given that the manager explicitly stated he wanted us to sign another striker - which we didn’t do - I’d say that we have a rather worrying striker-shaped hole in our squad.

Trying to sign McGrath was audacious but we can’t pick ‘nearly got McGrath’ on Saturday. Other than that, a decent window. I say other than that but if Doidge is out until December we’re talking about around 14 games in which we need to hope neither of our forwards loses form or is injured. That’s half of the remainder of our season…
We will probably still sign a striker. It won’t be a household name it will be a journeyman that will be used in emergencies and that was always going to the case. It will be along the lines of Chris Dagnall.

[Hibbyradge]

It's always exciting to see new players arrive so not to get McGrath at the end was disappointing.

On the other hand, we've kept Scott Allan who I thought would be away and, although he's unlikely to get 90 minutes any time soon, he can still provide that wee bit of quality when the opportunity arises.

We were crying out for cover at the back and we've brought in a £9m rated player.

We kept all of our best players which is fantastic news. To be honest,vI might have settled for that without any signings. It's hugely positive and should be seen as such.

We also brought in James Scott to bolster the attack and have Gullan on the bench.

A more than decent window and we're in very good shape.

[NC1875]

McGrath would have been an excellent signing. Hope we manage to get him in January but fear that might have been our only chance.

[04Sauzee]

Can’t help but think the silence from Hibs is weird. Not transfer round up as of yet.

Are the appealing the McGrath decision? Maybe waiting till that’s done before doing the round up.

Dylan Tait? Is he signed or not? Is he also away back on loan?
Looking at the Raith Rovers forum the last post about Tait was that his partner was saying it's a done deal depending on medical. Like I say that's one guy on a football forum so who knows.

[flash]

The lack of communication from the club regarding who we have actually signed is deafening.

[hibsdaft]

If Doidge doesn't get injured, this was as good a window as we could have hoped for. His injury leaves us in a slightly precarious position until him/ Mueller join. But once all the pieces of the jigsaw come together, we will have a very exciting team.

[yerauldda]

So if McGrath didn’t come available we just would have let the window slam shut.

When we’ve needed another forward for as long as we have, we shouldn’t have been scrambling about in the last hour of a transfer window that’s been open for months.

I would have got it if we’d received a great bid for Nisbet at the last minute but we never. To not have deals ready to drop is a terrible reflection on the transfer department IMO.

Don’t really care that it’s a hard thing to do, that’s their job and what they’re paid to do.

We have no idea what happened with other players. We may have been 90% down the line with someone and something happens that means they don’t sign.

I’m also frustrated not to have signed a forward but I’d rather keep Gullan than sign someone who’s on a higher wage for the sake of it. When the dust settles I think we should appreciate how good a window it’s been.

To come out of it with Nisbet, Boyle, Porteous and Doig still here and all on long term deals is fantastic.

Shame we didn’t get Mueller across the line but Orlando weren’t interested in letting him go & the McGrath opportunity was clearly a long shot after his move to Boro’ fell through.

There’s no question we are light through injury but we are in a better position than we were 8 weeks ago. Looking forward to Tait (pending confirmation) and Mueller coming in Jan.

[Greenworld]

Just a thought. He's left St Johnstone and seemed a good player once he got up to speed. He's a free agent, and getting him in for the season would allow Gullan to go out on loan.How does that help bringing in someone who know one wants and getting rid of someone we know can stand in if required

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[One Day Soon]

We will probably still sign a striker. It won’t be a household name it will be a journeyman that will be used in emergencies and that was always going to the case. It will be along the lines of Chris Dagnall.

Oh, that’s cheered me right up. I mean you’re probably right but if you’re going to go to the free transfer/agent bag of pick and mix and take a lucky dip from there (Calderwood-tastic eh?) you could end up with anything and it probably isn’t going to be too good. To put it another way, it’s not hard to sign a non-scoring notional striker who can pull a jersey on and bring your numbers up to 11 on match day. That’s not going to provoke much hochmagandy though is it?

[bingo70]

We have no idea what happened with other players. We may have been 90% down the line with someone and something happens that means they don’t sign.

I’m also frustrated not to have signed a forward but I’d rather keep Gullan than sign someone who’s on a higher wage for the sake of it. When the dust settles I think we should appreciate how good a window it’s been.

To come out of it with Nisbet, Boyle, Porteous and Doig still here and all on long term deals is fantastic.

Shame we didn’t get Mueller across the line but Orlando weren’t interested in letting him go & the McGrath opportunity was clearly a long shot after his move to Boro’ fell through.

There’s no question we are light through injury but we are in a better position than we were 8 weeks ago. Looking forward to Tait (pending confirmation) and Mueller coming in Jan.

For me, we’re keeping Gullan for the sake of it.

Ross clearly doesn’t fancy him and that’s fine, there’s obviously reasons behind that but we’re only one injury from relying on him now.

[Lago]

He's basically a training keeper, will probably never play a game. Training keepers are all the rage these days for some reason.
Seems like an unnecessary expense to me.

[Unseen work]

What free agents we bringing in them?

Barrie McKay

Guy Melamed

Connor Wickham

Jerome Sinclair

[flash]

One exciting consequence of all this could be the promotion of one of our under 18 strikers to the first team squad until Doidge is able to return.

[One Day Soon]

What free agents we bringing in them?

Barrie McKay

Guy Melamed

Connor Wickham

Jerome Sinclair

Are these real people? They sound like Football Manager characters.

[Andy74]

For me, we’re keeping Gullan for the sake of it.

Ross clearly doesn’t fancy him and that’s fine, there’s obviously reasons behind that but we’re only one injury from relying on him now.

I think we’d be looking at a combination of the likes of Mackay, Wright and Cadden in forward positions before we get to Gullan. Probably only Nisbet and Scott could play the central role but that’s 2 for 1 spot until the next window I suppose.

[flash]

For me, we’re keeping Gullan for the sake of it.

Ross clearly doesn’t fancy him and that’s fine, there’s obviously reasons behind that but we’re only one injury from relying on him now.

Gullan is actually a pretty decent footballer in my opinion but that's probably not the point.

[PatHead]

So if McGrath didn’t come available we just would have let the window slam shut.

When we’ve needed another forward for as long as we have, we shouldn’t have been scrambling about in the last hour of a transfer window that’s been open for months.

I would have got it if we’d received a great bid for Nisbet at the last minute but we never. To not have deals ready to drop is a terrible reflection on the transfer department IMO.

Don’t really care that it’s a hard thing to do, that’s their job and what they’re paid to do.

We did get another forward so it wasn't months. The vacant position arose when Doidge got injured.

If I was a forward I am not sure Hibs would have been that attractive knowing that come January there were likely to be 2 players ahead of me in the pecking order. Add to that the likelihood that I would be on the bench in the first place.

I really wouldn't want anyone just to make up the numbers. Seen crap like that too many times in the past.

[Andy74]

Seems like an unnecessary expense to me.

Why? Just takes one injury or suspension and we down to a 16 year old. It is cheap cover.

[PatHead]

For me, we’re keeping Gullan for the sake of it.

Ross clearly doesn’t fancy him and that’s fine, there’s obviously reasons behind that but we’re only one injury from relying on him now.

I would rather have Gullan than some journeyman. If he gets the chance it is up to him to change Ross's mind.

[Tommy75]

Obviously the happy clappers are going to be alright with this shambolic disaster of a transfer window.

If they want to accept mediocrity that’s fine. However I want what’s best for OUR club.

Ron needs to start putting his hands in his pockets and PONY UP.

How would you have described this window if we had lost Doig, Nisbet and Boyle?

[Brightside]

If we were going to bring in a striker it would be a journeyman who is happy to sit on the bench all season unless we have injuries. So I’m sure we can find one on the open market.

[1875Sean]

Free agent list here

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=Sturm&spielerposition_id=alle&land_id=alle&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=alle&seit=alle&yt0=Show

Not sure what wages some of these players will be after but someone like Robson-Kanu could be realistic

[Ronniekirk]

For me, we’re keeping Gullan for the sake of it.

Ross clearly doesn’t fancy him and that’s fine, there’s obviously reasons behind that but we’re only one injury from relying on him now.

And he isn’t getting game time so won’t be Match fit if needed for a few games

[degenerated]

The failure of the McGrath deal is really disappointing but it sounds like the opportunity only arose with an hour on the clock due to his move to Middlesbrough collapsing. Trying to sort a deal between 3 players in that time sounds a tall order so I don't think you can criticise the club on that one.

Keeping all our best players is also a big positive so well done Hibs on that score.

Failing to sign a striker though looks a total failure. We've had months to sort that out and it sounds like we were scrambling around at the end trying to do a deal. Not securing cover at right back is also poor and I'm not convinced the loan signing of a 19 year old is really what we need in central defence.

So a real mixed bag of a transfer window for me.James Scott is a forward?

[Souter96Mac]

I'd take Barrie McKay and Connor Whickham.

[Peevemor]

Why? Just takes one injury or suspension and we down to a 16 year old. It is cheap cover.I was just thinking about this and the likelihood of Marshall ever playing. Covid is surely a factor too.

[HendoDelivered]

I think people suggesting who to sign as free agents are clutching at straws. We wont sign any of them IMO, we very rarely ever do.

[bingo70]

If we were going to bring in a striker it would be a journeyman who is happy to sit on the bench all season unless we have injuries. So I’m sure we can find one on the open market.

Or a young forward on loan that’s a good bit away from playing regular first team football at a higher level but would be keen to show he can do a job here for a few months until Doidge is back and Mueller arrives.

[jacomo]

The words disaster, joke and disgrace are way overused

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It’s totally unacceptable!

:wink:

[Peevemor]

It’s totally unacceptable!

:wink:Shocking!

[Brightside]

Or a young forward on loan that’s a good bit away from playing regular first team football at a higher level but would be keen to show he can do a job here for a few months until Doidge is back and Mueller arrives.

It’s like we have a few of them already. 🤷🏻*♂️

[jeffers]

If we were going to bring in a striker it would be a journeyman who is happy to sit on the bench all season unless we have injuries. So I’m sure we can find one on the open market.

Not sure how you come to that conclusion. Saturday we had Nisbet and Scott through the middle with Boyle and Murphy wide. Murphy is out injured yet again, so Scott could play his position, leaving a vacant position for another striker. Why the F we didn’t get LG I’ll never know.

[SaulGoodman]

How would you have described this window if we had lost Doig, Nisbet and Boyle?

I would’ve ran out of adjectives.

[greenlex]

Or a young forward on loan that’s a good bit away from playing regular first team football at a higher level but would be keen to show he can do a job here for a few months until Doidge is back and Mueller arrives.
Gullan fits that bill.

[bingo70]

It’s like we have a few of them already. 🤷🏻*♂️

2 I think?

I’m different to most as I think Wood is exactly what we needed and that’s what I wanted as cover for a few months up front too.

I’ve not been impressed by Scott from what I’ve seen so far and I’m not particularly excited about relying on him going forward, hopefully he improves as time goes on.

[greenlex]

Not sure how you come to that conclusion. Saturday we had Nisbet and Scott through the middle with Boyle and Murphy wide. Murphy is out injured yet again, so Scott could play his position, leaving a vacant position for another striker. Why the F we didn’t get LG I’ll never know.
Wright or Mackay fills in for Murphy.

[jeffers]

Wright or Mackay fills in for Murphy.

Leaving us considerably weaker. A lot of the time Ross has played with two strikers, while I quite like the look of Scott he doesn’t look like an out and out striker to me, more a wide man.

[bingo70]

Gullan fits that bill.

He’s not at a higher level?

I’m talking about young strikers at English premiership or high end English championship clubs that aren’t even making the match day squads for clubs but have a lot of potential.

There must be loads of them.

[Greenbeard]

Gullan fits that bill.
Agree.

[BT58]

According to my nephew, he is friendly with LG family, Hibs never approached LG to sign.
B

[Smartie]

Gullan fits that bill.

Problem is, Jack Ross clearly doesn’t fancy him. He goes out of his way to use other players ahead of him.

I think there’s a few of us on here who would like to see him get more of an opportunity, if for no other reason then to give other players a bit of a break to help prevent burning them out.

But Ross’ opinion is the one that matters.

[Ronniekirk]

So if McGrath didn’t come available we just would have let the window slam shut.

When we’ve needed another forward for as long as we have, we shouldn’t have been scrambling about in the last hour of a transfer window that’s been open for months.

I would have got it if we’d received a great bid for Nisbet at the last minute but we never. To not have deals ready to drop is a terrible reflection on the transfer department IMO.

Don’t really care that it’s a hard thing to do, that’s their job and what they’re paid to do.

McGrath is a red herring and distracts from what Ross has said he wanted at the outset A Striker , and that was before Doidge got injured
Then Murphy got injured snd he said that may have to be factored into outlet transfer dealings
McGrath coming in and Drey Wright leaving would of improved the squad and Daniel McKay would of then got more game time
But to loose Scott Allan would of been a blow He isn’t match fit but his back heel set up Boyle when game still only 1 0
Coming off the bench regularly he is one of the few players on our bench capable of coming on and changing the game for us
Not doubt we will bring in a free agent but we had been expecting more
We shall see if we are third in the league at the end of December as that has to be our aim
But keeping all our top players is defo a bonus

[Peevemor]

According to my nephew, he is friendly with LG family, Hibs never approached LG to sign.
BToo late. It's now a hibs.net fact regardless.

Shockingly ridiculous!

I'm away to scream until I make myself sick.

[Peevemor]

McGrath is a red herring and distracts from what Ross has said he wanted at the outset A Striker , and that was before Doidge got injured
Then Murphy got injured snd he said that may have to be factored into outlet transfer dealings
McGrath coming in and Drey Wright leaving would of improved the squad and Daniel McKay would of then got more game time
But to loose Scott Allan would of been a blow He isn’t match fit but his back heel set up Boyle when game still only 1 0
Coming off the bench regularly he is one of the few players on our bench capable of coming on and changing the game for us
Not doubt we will bring in a free agent but we had been expecting more
We shall see if we are third in the league at the end of December as that has to be our aim
But keeping all our top players is defo a bonusDid Ross say striker? Was it not always "forward area" and/or "middle to forward"?

[Billy Whizz]

Can a players contract be terminated today, and he becomes a free agent?

[Hibernian Verse]

Did Ross say striker? Was it not always "forward area" and/or "middle to forward"?

"Middle to front" he said.

People just make things up these days, post it and all of a sudden it's a Hibs.net fact.

[Peevemor]

Can a players contract be terminated today, and he becomes a free agent?Yes, but he can't play for anyone else until the next transfer window.

[jacomo]

Too late. It's now a hibs.net fact regardless.

Shockingly ridiculous!

I'm away to scream until I make myself sick.


Well I blame Petrie. If he’d just stumped up £150 all those years ago then all this unpleasantness could have been avoided.

[jacomo]

Free agent list here

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=Sturm&spielerposition_id=alle&land_id=alle&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=alle&seit=alle&yt0=Show

Not sure what wages some of these players will be after but someone like Robson-Kanu could be realistic


Robson-Kanu would be a left field signing of the very highest order to be fair.

[PatHead]

Can a players contract be terminated today, and he becomes a free agent?
He wouldn't be able to sign for another club until the next window.

[Callum_62]

Right, when does the SFA offices open?

Surely ABZ can arrange a protest?

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[SaulGoodman]

"Middle to front" he said.

People just make things up these days, post it and all of a sudden it's a Hibs.net fact.

Not true at all, he said this 3 weeks ago.


I want McGrath from St Mirren, I’ve admired him for a while, we’ve agreed a deal and Scotty and Wrighto will be going the other way, the new start in the office is sorting out the paperwork as we speak, barring something stupid like someone’s name being spelt wrong the deal should be sorted by 11.59:59 on the 31st. I thought that would be cutting a bit close but the new Twitter admin said it would be good bants

[Billy Whizz]

Yes, but he can't play for anyone else until the next transfer window.

Ok, so it would have to been done last night!

[loanheadhibby]

We have no idea what happened with other players. We may have been 90% down the line with someone and something happens that means they don’t sign.

I’m also frustrated not to have signed a forward but I’d rather keep Gullan than sign someone who’s on a higher wage for the sake of it. When the dust settles I think we should appreciate how good a window it’s been.

To come out of it with Nisbet, Boyle, Porteous and Doig still here and all on long term deals is fantastic.

Shame we didn’t get Mueller across the line but Orlando weren’t interested in letting him go & the McGrath opportunity was clearly a long shot after his move to Boro’ fell through.

There’s no question we are light through injury but we are in a better position than we were 8 weeks ago. Looking forward to Tait (pending confirmation) and Mueller coming in Jan.

Not having a dig at you but this point made by lots of people does not wash with me in terms of improving the squad. If you look at it from Jack Ross point of view, he already had these guys and they have taken him to 3rd, a cup final and a semi final. An excellent return for a season to many. These players will incrementally improve as they gain experience.

As last night highlighted, it is not easy to sign players however we have had since May to identify a forward player. It worries me somewhat that the club always seem to be hanging about until the last minute hoping a wee gem comes up.

However as a club, if we want to keep improving and getting better, we should have delivered what the manager requested, another forward. I would imagine JR will be slightly disappointed today that he did not get his wish.

[Peevemor]

Ok, so it would have to been done last night!That's certainly my understanding.

[Callum_62]

Yes, the termination of there contract has to have happened before the end of the window to allow them to sign elsewhere

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[Hibs90]

"Middle to front" he said.

People just make things up these days, post it and all of a sudden it's a Hibs.net fact.

And before he said that, he did mention a striker a couple of times.

[gegs70]

I know a lot of the hard work behind the scenes goes in to get deals across the line. Did we put all our eggs in one basket and try to long to get McCart and Mueller in before the window closed? It feels from the end of last season and this that priority was on a striker and defender, which was left to the latter part of the window. Some success early on with transfers but feels like we failed towards the end with the main targets??

On a side note do hibs not usually post a conclusion of transfer business when completed as I still haven't seen this yet?

[Since452]

I'm happy enough with Gullan as back up striker until December when Doidge is back. Unlike Hearts and Aberdeen our squad didn't require major changes. I actually think we've got a really good squad and another season of continuity will push us on yet again.

[madhatter]

Surely we've got something being confirmed? I know they likely all had a late night but I assumed we'd have had some kind of tweet this morning even if unrelated to transfers.

Hope we definitely got Tait over the line at least. No announcement still is a little strange even if he is heading back on loan.

[hibbyfraelibby]

And before he said that, he did mention a striker a couple of times.

...and signed two?

[mixumatosis]

It worries me somewhat that the club always seem to be hanging about until the last minute hoping a wee gem comes up.

It worries me that any Hibs fan thinks that the non-playing staff at the club are "hanging about" or doing their job on the basis of "hoping" something falls in their lap.

It's actually p!$$ poor to suggest it, or to suggest that those people's bosses would allow that to be the case.

[Greenworld]

If only Hibs would communicate it would save so much guesswork .
I guess a meeting is taking place right now with Ben ,Ron, Jack and recruitment to see what the hell went on .
We have a good squad there is no panic serious questions need to be answered to the failure to get the one striker jack wanted .

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[madhatter]

I'm happy enough with Gullan as back up striker until December when Doidge is back. Unlike Hearts and Aberdeen our squad didn't require major changes. I actually think we've got a really good squad and another season of continuity will push us on yet again.

From a club perspective that's OK. Pretty much doing a Shaw and Murray to Gullan though. His career is stagnating at a critical time. He needs to be starting every week.

[Greenworld]

Surely we've got something being confirmed? I know they likely all had a late night but I assumed we'd have had some kind of tweet this morning even if unrelated to transfers.

Hope we definitely got Tait over the line at least. No announcement still is a little strange even if he is heading back on loan.Correct the silence [emoji349] is strange unless we are battling with our pal Rod at the sfa on the st mirren front. Only explanation I can think of

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[Hibs90]

I'm happy enough with Gullan as back up striker until December when Doidge is back. Unlike Hearts and Aberdeen our squad didn't require major changes. I actually think we've got a really good squad and another season of continuity will push us on yet again.

Okay so if Nisbet gets an injury, you’d be happy to play Scott or Gullan between then and Xmas, when Doidge might not even be fit until January. depending on how his recovery goes.

That’s daft.

[Since452]

From a club perspective that's OK. Pretty much doing a Shaw and Murray to Gullan though. His career is stagnating at a critical time. He needs to be starting every week.

I think he'll get that chance somewhere else in January.

[gegs70]

Surely we've got something being confirmed? I know they likely all had a late night but I assumed we'd have had some kind of tweet this morning even if unrelated to transfers.

Hope we definitely got Tait over the line at least. No announcement still is a little strange even if he is heading back on loan.

Yep agree usually they do send the confirmation of transfer business on website? I always thought that they had a plan a and b if things didn't go as they should? Or perhaps they are still working on plan b????

[Since452]

Okay so if Nisbet gets an injury, you’d be happy to play Scott or Gullan between then and Xmas, when Doidge might not even be fit until January. depending on how his recovery goes.

That’s daft.

Would you rather have a player desperate to make a contribution or a journyman who's happy to sit on his arse until there's an injury? More than happy to have Gullan right now.

[SlickShoes]

From a club perspective that's OK. Pretty much doing a Shaw and Murray to Gullan though. His career is stagnating at a critical time. He needs to be starting every week.

What about the other players that aren't playing? Do we owe it to them? What about the ones we would sign and then not play, should we play them every week because they deserve game time? Or should we do what we need to win games instead?

Hibs will look after Hibs, Gullan can look after himself, he's not a kid and has an agent I am sure.

[gegs70]

Okay so if Nisbet gets an injury, you’d be happy to play Scott or Gullan between then and Xmas, when Doidge might not even be fit until January. depending on how his recovery goes.

That’s daft.

They kind of said that they would use Boyle as back up striker and they have Mckay who can play in Boyle position?