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SMAXXA
16-07-2021, 10:24 PM
Enough to form an opinion. Obviously.
It’s far from obvious when youve read some of the stuff on here. Not a name that would excite me but I can’t say I’ve seen much of him to say I’d not want him.
JimBHibees
16-07-2021, 10:25 PM
Hope we get McCart! Not impressed at all with Melamed though. 29 this year as well.
I like him very good goal scorer. Could be a decent back up.
Hibstrooper
16-07-2021, 10:28 PM
Melamed strikes me as the type of forward we love to see at Hibs. Got a bit of the flair about him. I’d be happy with him as an addition to the squad, would be a great 3rd striker.
JohnM1875
16-07-2021, 10:28 PM
It’s far from obvious when youve read some of the stuff on here. Not a name that would excite me but I can’t say I’ve seen much of him to say I’d not want him.
I get that. But the only way I could have seen more of him last season was if I was a St Johnstone fan. I actually know a few and they wanted to keep him, so who knows.
All I can comment on was the minutes I seen him play which would be twice against us and on highlights. And he never stood out as a player I'd want us to be after.
Silky
16-07-2021, 10:31 PM
65 goals in around 230 professional appearances isn't overly prolific, about 1 goal for every 3.5 games?
So over 35 games thats 10 goals? Another 10 goals more than we scored last season. Aye. I'll take that.
S4uzee
16-07-2021, 10:33 PM
So over 35 games thats 10 goals? Another 10 goals more than we scored last season. Aye. I'll take that.
Doesn’t really work like that though does it
JohnM1875
16-07-2021, 10:34 PM
I like him very good goal scorer. Could be a decent back up.
Melamed strikes me as the type of forward we love to see at Hibs. Got a bit of the flair about him. I’d be happy with him as an addition to the squad, would be a great 3rd striker.
Maybe that's my issue, we'd be signing a player just to make up the numbers up top. I get we need extra bodies up there. But if we do sign someone I want it to be someone who can improve us not just compete for a jersey.
Unseen work
16-07-2021, 10:36 PM
I’ve heard good things about Melamed, mainly that he’s a good player that struggled to get used to the style of the league.
Once he got going he was good though.
Seems to be scorer of great goals more than a lot of goals.
JimBHibees
16-07-2021, 10:38 PM
Maybe that's my issue, we'd be signing a player just to make up the numbers up top. I get we need extra bodies up there. But if we do sign someone I want it to be someone who can improve us not just compete for a jersey.
Think it would be more giving us another option rather than making up the numbers. We are very light up front. Think he would be a good signing however wouldn't be a certain starter as think we will struggle to get better than Nisbet.
JimBHibees
16-07-2021, 10:39 PM
I’ve heard good things about Melamed, mainly that he’s a good player that struggled to get used to the style of the league.
Once he got going he was good though.
Seems to be scorer of great goals more than a lot of goals.
Think it took him a while to settle but last season was good for him. Think he would be better with us.
JohnM1875
16-07-2021, 10:43 PM
Think it would be more giving us another option rather than making up the numbers. We are very light up front. Think he would be a good signing however wouldn't be a certain starter as think we will struggle to get better than Nisbet.
I agree about Nisbet. Some of his link up play the last few games (and last season of course) has been fantastic. Looked really sharp tonight as well and will only benefit from a fully fit Allan.
SMAXXA
16-07-2021, 10:50 PM
I agree about Nisbet. Some of his link up play the last few games (and last season of course) has been fantastic. Looked really sharp tonight as well and will only benefit from a fully fit Allan.
Agree I think some of his link up has been brilliant and showing some great touches. Friend I still think we will let Gullan leave bring in another striker and Nisbet will leave as we will use Boyle up top a times
JohnM1875
16-07-2021, 10:54 PM
Agree I think some of his link up has been brilliant and showing some great touches. Friend I still think we will let Gullan leave bring in another striker and Nisbet will leave as we will use Boyle up top a times
Probably why you should take my opinion about Melamed with a pinch of salt.
Only a few weeks ago I was saying we should get shot of Nisbet the first good offer that comes along 😂
Key West
16-07-2021, 11:04 PM
Good to see a lot of supporters appreciating Mallan’s contribution to Hibs, I’ll be 60 next year if he isn’t deemed good enough and with so many weaknesses well I’m glad there hasn’t been forums for decades past. :wink:
SteveHFC
16-07-2021, 11:57 PM
Melamed strikes me as the type of forward we love to see at Hibs. Got a bit of the flair about him. I’d be happy with him as an addition to the squad, would be a great 3rd striker.
Wonder if we will sign another striker if he signs.
hibbysam
17-07-2021, 12:20 AM
Maybe that's my issue, we'd be signing a player just to make up the numbers up top. I get we need extra bodies up there. But if we do sign someone I want it to be someone who can improve us not just compete for a jersey.
We have a multi million pound striker who is one of the best in the league. It would cost a fortune to buy someone better than that. If we sign a striker it’ll be a backup/squad player.
ozhibs
17-07-2021, 05:07 AM
100% and let’s ignore the ones who suddenly think he’s ***** cause he’s left and point out how bad and flawed he was rather than appreciate the player who have his all for us on and off the park and always represented the club with respect. Like all our players the have good and bad points but let’s boot extrapolate the bad just cause he’s left eh!
Thank god his short passing game was bang on for Horgans goal at Tyne.
Good luck SM and thanks for you time with Hibs.
Ditto, I think we could have done with him in the 2nd half of last season
GGTTH
Big_Franck
17-07-2021, 07:16 AM
I hope we are still after McCart but I hope the Melamed rumour is nonsense. He's not someone who's going to improve us, he'd just be the striking equivalent of the Stephen McGinn signing.
flash
17-07-2021, 07:16 AM
I hope we are still after McCart but I hope the Melamed rumour is nonsense. He's not someone who's going to improve us, he'd just be the striking equivalent of the Stephen McGinn signing.
Really?
Big_Franck
17-07-2021, 07:25 AM
Really?
Aye. Really.
bingo70
17-07-2021, 07:32 AM
I hope we are still after McCart but I hope the Melamed rumour is nonsense. He's not someone who's going to improve us, he'd just be the striking equivalent of the Stephen McGinn signing.
I agree about Melamed.
We need to be realistic about who we can get as a third choice striker that won’t initially play very much until they can break into the side but IMO he’d still be very meh.
FWIW for this kind of signing I’d rather we signed an up and coming young player that’s struggling to break through at a bigger club down south. Signing someone who’s just average and game time expectations will be low just because he’s not done much in his career isn’t going to get the juices flowing.
Will obviously back him if he does sign etc and will refrain from booing him onto the park the first few weeks at least but nah, he’s not for me.
flash
17-07-2021, 07:36 AM
Aye. Really.
Fair enough. Not sure how you got there but it's a forum.
Leitherhibs
17-07-2021, 07:43 AM
I hope we are still after McCart but I hope the Melamed rumour is nonsense. He's not someone who's going to improve us, he'd just be the striking equivalent of the Stephen McGinn signing.
Bit of Paul Heffernan type signing, similar kind of forward as well.
Big_Franck
17-07-2021, 07:44 AM
Fair enough. Not sure how you got there but it's a forum.
Fwiw I'm with Bingo in that if he does sign he'll obviously get my support. If he does actually sign I look forward to seeing more of him and hope he comes off the bench and gets goals. From what I seen of him I just don't think he'd improve us and I hope we are after better though.
CapitalGreen
17-07-2021, 07:47 AM
I hope we are still after McCart but I hope the Melamed rumour is nonsense. He's not someone who's going to improve us, he'd just be the striking equivalent of the Stephen McGinn signing.
Melhamed - 28 year old striker who joined St Johnstone midway through the season making 23 appearances and having 10 goal contributions (1 every 113 minutes). He helped St Johnstone to a historic cup double.
S McGinn - Was a 31 year old central midfielder who hadn’t played a competitive game in 10 months and was signed as short term depth to tide us over until we could strengthen in the January window.
Nonsense comparison.
bingo70
17-07-2021, 07:54 AM
Melhamed - 28 year old striker who joined St Johnstone midway through the season making 23 appearances and having 10 goal contributions (1 every 113 minutes). He helped St Johnstone to a historic cup double.
S McGinn - Was a 31 year old central midfielder who hadn’t played a competitive game in 10 months and was signed as short term depth to tide us over until we could strengthen in the January window.
10 goal contributions? He only scored 5 according to Wikipedia?
I’m assuming 10 is including assists?
This modern stats based way of judging players isn’t for me at all. The 5 assists could be anything, a ball bouncing off his arse into the path of someone better to score, he could have scoffed a shot from 6 yards out that fell into the path of someone better to score.
I know I’m deliberately pointing out the most negative angle of it, I just can’t stand these new stats that have crept into the game recently.
I think people can still make judgement of players based on what they see with their own eyes without having someone effectively pointing to a spreadsheet to say they’re wrong.
CapitalGreen
17-07-2021, 08:03 AM
10 goal contributions? He only scored 5 according to Wikipedia?
I’m assuming 10 is including assists?
This modern stats based way of judging players isn’t for me at all. The 5 assists could be anything, a ball bouncing off his arse into the path of someone better to score, he could have scoffed a shot from 6 yards out that fell into the path of someone better to score.
I know I’m deliberately pointing out the most negative angle of it, I just can’t stand these new stats that have crept into the game recently.
I think people can still make judgement of players based on what they see with their own eyes without having someone effectively pointing to a spreadsheet to say they’re wrong.
Annoying when someone uses facts to make your comparison look a bit s*** isn’t it.
I agree that the eye test is always required to judge a player and you can’t rely solely on stats. However when someone’s supposed eye test has led them to the conclusion that Stephen McGinn’s contribution last season is a valid comparison with Melamed’s potential based on his time with St Johnstone then their opinion becomes highly questionable to me.
tmb1875
17-07-2021, 08:05 AM
Would rather we had the likes of laidlaw and O’Connor on the bench every week than journey men, would hang my hat on them getting 7 goals if given 23 games, only way to develop these players.
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bingo70
17-07-2021, 08:10 AM
Annoying when someone uses facts to make your comparison look a bit s*** isn’t it.
I agree that the eye test is always required to judge a player and you can’t rely solely on stats. However when someone’s supposed eye test has led them to the conclusion that Stephen McGinn’s contribution last season is a valid comparison with Melamed’s potential based on his time with St Johnstone then their opinion becomes highly questionable to me.
Imo goal contribution stats aren’t doing that for the reasons I stated in my post.
If the poster said he was a pish goalscorer and wouldn’t score any goals and you came back with a stat saying he scored 85 goals last season (exaggerating for effect) then you’re right, that stat would make the post you quoted look a bit daft.
Fwiw I’m not sure I completely agree with the Stephen Mcginn comparison but I get it. We’d be signing a player from another spfl club who finished miles below us, he didn’t get his game for them regularly and when he did play he didn’t look anything special.
He’d effectively be signed because he’d be happy to sit on the bench without much fuss and knows the league so if needed he wouldn’t take any time to settle into Scottish football. Sort of signing that’ll maybe do a job on rare occasions but not likely to make much of an impact.
LeithMike
17-07-2021, 08:11 AM
I agree about Melamed.
We need to be realistic about who we can get as a third choice striker that won’t initially play very much until they can break into the side but IMO he’d still be very meh.
FWIW for this kind of signing I’d rather we signed an up and coming young player that’s struggling to break through at a bigger club down south. Signing someone who’s just average and game time expectations will be low just because he’s not done much in his career isn’t going to get the juices flowing.
Will obviously back him if he does sign etc and will refrain from booing him onto the park the first few weeks at least but nah, he’s not for me.Fair views. I dont know anything at all about Melamed but I think we could use a third striker who is a bit of a maverick and able to offer something different. If he's got a bit of a skill about him and can offer something different then it sounds like he will bring something to the party.
I tend to think with strikers (unlike many other positions) then a bit of experience is not a bad thing. Young strikers can be hit and miss and blow hot and cold and tend to miss a lot more chances than an experienced pro. If Melamed has a bit of something about him and could come on and change games for us when we are looking impotent then that would fit us really well even if he's not prolific.
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bingo70
17-07-2021, 08:11 AM
Would rather we had the likes of laidlaw and O’Connor on the bench every week than journey men, would hang my hat on them getting 7 goals if given 23 games, only way to develop these players.
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Yes, definitely.
That’s a better option than my earlier suggestion of a youngster struggling to break through at a bigger club.
Big_Franck
17-07-2021, 08:12 AM
10 goal contributions? He only scored 5 according to Wikipedia?
I’m assuming 10 is including assists?
This modern stats based way of judging players isn’t for me at all. The 5 assists could be anything, a ball bouncing off his arse into the path of someone better to score, he could have scoffed a shot from 6 yards out that fell into the path of someone better to score.
I know I’m deliberately pointing out the most negative angle of it, I just can’t stand these new stats that have crept into the game recently.
I think people can still make judgement of players based on what they see with their own eyes without having someone effectively pointing to a spreadsheet to say they’re wrong.
It's a way to talk up players and make them more appealing to clubs. I think these kind of stats come from scouting systems that some fans parrot to try to appear knowledgeable.
Another one is the way some fans state player goal ratios when comparing it only to starts and not including sub appearances. They ignore all of the sub appearances even when the player came on as a sub and scored, contributing to their goals stat without including the appearance. Most strikers seem like decent signings if we do that though!
SMAXXA
17-07-2021, 08:12 AM
Would rather we had the likes of laidlaw and O’Connor on the bench every week than journey men, would hang my hat on them getting 7 goals if given 23 games, only way to develop these players.
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Journeymen he’s 27, fwiw I’m not convinced we will sign him but who knows. Also a lot of talk about this 3rd back up striker quicker we realise we are likely to be signing a 2nd choice striker the better as I’d be amazed if Nisbet is with come close of the window. Wether this guy is that striker us again up for debate. We have 3rd choice strikers in Boyle and Gullan
bingo70
17-07-2021, 08:19 AM
Journeymen he’s 27, fwiw I’m not convinced we will sign him but who knows. Also a lot of talk about this 3rd back up striker quicker we realise we are likely to be signing a 2nd choice striker the better as I’d be amazed if Nisbet is with come close of the window. Wether this guy is that striker us again up for debate. We have 3rd choice strikers in Boyle and Gullan
If Nisbet goes do you not think we will replace him with someone to make a similar impact to what Nisbet did last season?
Genuine question btw I’m not being nippy. I just wondered if having 2 good strikers in Doidge and Nisbet almost worked against us last year as it meant we couldn’t play Ross’s preferred formation of 1 up front.
MWHIBBIES
17-07-2021, 08:24 AM
If Nisbet goes do you not think we will replace him with someone to make a similar impact to what Nisbet did last season?
Genuine question btw I’m not being nippy. I just wondered if having 2 good strikers in Doidge and Nisbet almost worked against us last year as it meant we couldn’t play Ross’s preferred formation of 1 up front.
He had plenty chances to try one up front, and instead played Boyle as the 2nd striker. He also signed Nisbet, and played them both together as much as possible. I think he prefers 2 strikers.
LeithMike
17-07-2021, 08:27 AM
If Nisbet goes do you not think we will replace him with someone to make a similar impact to what Nisbet did last season?
Genuine question btw I’m not being nippy. I just wondered if having 2 good strikers in Doidge and Nisbet almost worked against us last year as it meant we couldn’t play Ross’s preferred formation of 1 up front.Not sure if it was having two good strikers or having two strikers who were both not nearly as effective playing up top on their own.
I definitely think Ross wants to go 4-5-1/4-3-3 with two wide forwards but you need a really good front man to do that. I wonder if Doidge could grow into that role?
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easty
17-07-2021, 08:31 AM
Bit of Paul Heffernan type signing, similar kind of forward as well.
Not even. Heffernan looked a good player at Killie.
chippy
17-07-2021, 08:38 AM
Yes, definitely.
That’s a better option than my earlier suggestion of a youngster struggling to break through at a bigger club.
I agree with this but if Nisbet is sold late in the window you could perhaps view Melamed as a precautionary signing in case we don’t get a top player in to replace Nisbet
wookie70
17-07-2021, 08:38 AM
If Nisbet goes do you not think we will replace him with someone to make a similar impact to what Nisbet did last season?
Genuine question btw I’m not being nippy. I just wondered if having 2 good strikers in Doidge and Nisbet almost worked against us last year as it meant we couldn’t play Ross’s preferred formation of 1 up front.
If he is going to play 1 up top is Doidge the answer. Nisbet looks perfect for the role. Holds it up well, very mobile, good footballing brain and a very good passer of the ball. Doidge looks more of a part of a pair of strikers to me
hibbysam
17-07-2021, 08:39 AM
10 goal contributions? He only scored 5 according to Wikipedia?
I’m assuming 10 is including assists?
This modern stats based way of judging players isn’t for me at all. The 5 assists could be anything, a ball bouncing off his arse into the path of someone better to score, he could have scoffed a shot from 6 yards out that fell into the path of someone better to score.
I know I’m deliberately pointing out the most negative angle of it, I just can’t stand these new stats that have crept into the game recently.
I think people can still make judgement of players based on what they see with their own eyes without having someone effectively pointing to a spreadsheet to say they’re wrong.
Goals and assists are nothing new, they’ve been around for years. It’s how most attacking players are judged. He obviously struggled in the first few months which skews his stats - once he eventually got off the mark he scored 5 with 3 assists in 9 games pre split (one was a 10 minute cameo at Ibrox) - then only started once after the split. Scored 2 in 4 in the Scottish cup.
That isn’t a bad record by any means and one that is very capable of being our third striker. Think it was well known he struggled to adapt to begin with but was improving rapidly towards the end of the season.
hibbysam
17-07-2021, 08:40 AM
Not sure if it was having two good strikers or having two strikers who were both not nearly as effective playing up top on their own.
I definitely think Ross wants to go 4-5-1/4-3-3 with two wide forwards but you need a really good front man to do that. I wonder if Doidge could grow into that role?
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Doidge couldn’t play that role, imagine him trying to run onto Scott Allan through balls, would be awful. Nisbet is the man for it if he’s here.
bingo70
17-07-2021, 08:42 AM
Goals and assists are nothing new, they’ve been around for years. It’s how most attacking players are judged. He obviously struggled in the first few months which skews his stats - once he eventually got off the mark he scored 5 with 3 assists in 9 games pre split (one was a 10 minute cameo at Ibrox) - then only started once after the split. Scored 2 in 4 in the Scottish cup.
That isn’t a bad record by any means and one that is very capable of being our third striker. Think it was well known he struggled to adapt to begin with but was improving rapidly towards the end of the season.
Why did he only start once after the split then?
If he couldn’t get a start for St Johnstone I’ve got my doubts as to him being as good as you’re suggesting.
wookie70
17-07-2021, 09:09 AM
Doidge couldn’t play that role, imagine him trying to run onto Scott Allan through balls, would be awful. Nisbet is the man for it if he’s here.
I'm of the same view. Doidge has done pretty well but I don't see him as a lone striker. Nisbet is a really good player for that role particularly if we have the pace of Boyle and can somehow accommodate the luxury that is Scott A. I hope we design a system and then get players who can play it. Under Lennon and Heck it felt like we just bought random players and tried to shoehorn them in. That was what LD said when she came in and I still think the idea is the right way to go with youth players ready to fill in and playing the same system/systems.
Nisbet and Boyle staying are key to this season imo. Doig and Porteous are very good young players but could be replaced with minimal loss to our performance. Boyle and Nisbet would be very difficult to replace.
JimBHibees
17-07-2021, 09:14 AM
Fair views. I dont know anything at all about Melamed but I think we could use a third striker who is a bit of a maverick and able to offer something different. If he's got a bit of a skill about him and can offer something different then it sounds like he will bring something to the party.
I tend to think with strikers (unlike many other positions) then a bit of experience is not a bad thing. Young strikers can be hit and miss and blow hot and cold and tend to miss a lot more chances than an experienced pro. If Melamed has a bit of something about him and could come on and change games for us when we are looking impotent then that would fit us really well even if he's not prolific.
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Agree
Allant1981
17-07-2021, 09:15 AM
Really dont see anything in melamed to suggest we should be signing him, almost 29 and never scored more than 9 a season, should be going for younger guys on the way up in my opinion but if he signs then im sure will get backed by most
JimBHibees
17-07-2021, 09:17 AM
Doidge couldn’t play that role, imagine him trying to run onto Scott Allan through balls, would be awful. Nisbet is the man for it if he’s here.
Think I remember Doidge running onto Allan through balls in the past that's not to say I see him as a lone striker
Fergus52
17-07-2021, 09:22 AM
Why did he only start once after the split then?
If he couldn’t get a start for St Johnstone I’ve got my doubts as to him being as good as you’re suggesting.
Against "better" teams at Johnstone last season tended to tweak their system to have two attacking mids/inside forwards behind one striker, usually kane for his arial ability and work rate.
Against bottom 6 sides they would often play two up front and a number 10. Hence why melamed was getting a lot of game time pre split, but didn't play much afterwards despite being on good form.
04Sauzee
17-07-2021, 09:27 AM
Really dont see anything in melamed to suggest we should be signing him, almost 29 and never scored more than 9 a season, should be going for younger guys on the way up in my opinion but if he signs then im sure will get backed by most
Apart from the season he scored 10 😁
Allant1981
17-07-2021, 09:29 AM
Apart from the season he scored 10 😁
I was only looking at league goals😁
CapitalGreen
17-07-2021, 09:41 AM
Really dont see anything in melamed to suggest we should be signing him, almost 29 and never scored more than 9 a season, should be going for younger guys on the way up in my opinion but if he signs then im sure will get backed by most
That’s not correct. In 18/19 he scored 13 goals and in 16/17 he scored 12 goals.
Highwayman
17-07-2021, 09:45 AM
Recent reports state that Ryan Porteous insists he is happy at Hibs and wants to continue his development at ER.
How much of this comes under the football banner of Said and Done is open to interpretation
Surely Hibs have got to sort this out as a matter of urgency.
There is no point in Hibs going after defenders like Jamie McCart if Porteous intends to stay and continue his partnership with Paul Hanlon.
With Darren McGregor continuing as back up,should Hibs now be looking for more back up defenders. rather than those who would be looking to be first picks.
CapitalGreen
17-07-2021, 09:57 AM
Recent reports state that Ryan Porteous insists he is happy at Hibs and wants to continue his development at ER.
How much of this comes under the football banner of Said and Done is open to interpretation
Surely Hibs have got to sort this out as a matter of urgency.
There is no point in Hibs going after defenders like Jamie McCart if Porteous intends to stay and continue his partnership with Paul Hanlon.
With Darren McGregor continuing as back up,should Hibs now be looking for more back up defenders. rather than those who would be looking to be first picks.
We should 100% still be going for the likes of McCart even if Porteous is staying. I’m not sure McCart would be coming in purely to be back up either. His performances last season would have him challenging our current defenders for a starting place and would also allow us to play a back 3 if Ross fancied that system.
MWHIBBIES
17-07-2021, 10:00 AM
Recent reports state that Ryan Porteous insists he is happy at Hibs and wants to continue his development at ER.
How much of this comes under the football banner of Said and Done is open to interpretation
Surely Hibs have got to sort this out as a matter of urgency.
There is no point in Hibs going after defenders like Jamie McCart if Porteous intends to stay and continue his partnership with Paul Hanlon.
With Darren McGregor continuing as back up,should Hibs now be looking for more back up defenders. rather than those who would be looking to be first picks.
Don't want guys who are happy to fill a spot on the bench. Good teams sign guys who are there to take a spot.
Stuart93
17-07-2021, 10:01 AM
We should 100% still be going for the likes of McCart even if Porteous is staying. I’m not sure McCart would be coming in purely to be back up either. His performances last season would have him challenging our current defenders for a starting place and would also allow us to play a back 3 if Ross fancied that system.
I reckon McCart would go in ahead of either Hanlon or Porteous. Much more solid defender for me
Heisenberg
17-07-2021, 10:02 AM
Don't want guys who are happy to fill a spot on the bench. Good teams sign guys who are there to take a spot.
Absolutely agree. Hanlon won’t be a first pick forever and McGregor is clearly slowing down. We obviously see centre back as one of the priorities if we are willing to spend money to strengthen that area.
NORTHERNHIBBY
17-07-2021, 10:15 AM
I reckon McCart would go in ahead of either Hanlon or Porteous. Much more solid defender for me
McCart would be a good signing for us. No bad thing if he puts pressure on both those players and if he makes Porto step up a gear, then his move to a bigger club might come with more options. I hope that Hanlon sees out his top flight career with us as a proper legend. Often think that his performances go up and down based on who he is playing with. DM seems to make him more confident.
Allant1981
17-07-2021, 10:17 AM
That’s not correct. In 18/19 he scored 13 goals and in 16/17 he scored 12 goals.
As above, i must have been looking at league goals
easty
17-07-2021, 10:31 AM
I reckon McCart would go in ahead of either Hanlon or Porteous. Much more solid defender for me
I think we still need a third centre half, regardless of Porteous going or staying.
McCart would be third choice of the three, I’ve little doubt about that. St Johnstone conceded 11 more league goals than us, despite being a more defensive side, and despite their defenders having a “great season” compared to ours who were regularly slated on here.
We don’t appreciate what we have, not nearly enough.
LeithMike
17-07-2021, 10:34 AM
Doidge couldn’t play that role, imagine him trying to run onto Scott Allan through balls, would be awful. Nisbet is the man for it if he’s here.Is pace a pre-requisite for that role? Guys with pace like Owen, Walcott, Rashford have never been able to play as a lone striker and nowadays get shunted out wide. Probably the essential ingredient is to be able to play with your back to goal and bring the wide forwards and midfield into the game. All the better if you are fast running in on goal too. Hopefully Boyle and MacKay provide the pace with someone being able to run from midfield.
The best lone striker I've probably seen in the modern game is Drogba. He was unplayable at times once he grew into the role. I'm not 100% but think Doidge might be able to do it. Not sure if Nisbet is strong enough yet to carry the forward line on his own.
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JohnM1875
17-07-2021, 10:42 AM
I think we still need a third centre half, regardless of Porteous going or staying.
McCart would be third choice of the three, I’ve little doubt about that. St Johnstone conceded 11 more league goals than us, despite being a more defensive side, and despite their defenders having a “great season” compared to ours who were regularly slated on here.
We don’t appreciate what we have, not nearly enough.
Surely it would be a fourth centre half? We still have Daz.
Key West
17-07-2021, 10:43 AM
Nisbet has never been convincing as a lone striker.
easty
17-07-2021, 10:44 AM
Surely it would be a fourth centre half? We still have Daz.
I don’t see Daz playing all too often, good to have if we need him obviously, he’s not getting any younger.
Blaster
17-07-2021, 10:48 AM
Nisbet has never been convincing as a lone striker.
Not when we play high balls in. But when we play football into the channels with Boyle Allan and whoever on the left I think it would work.
Nicho87
17-07-2021, 11:04 AM
Does it look like we are going to having a formation change
4-2-3-1
Think we have the players for it
Stuart93
17-07-2021, 11:23 AM
McCart would be a good signing for us. No bad thing if he puts pressure on both those players and if he makes Porto step up a gear, then his move to a bigger club might come with more options. I hope that Hanlon sees out his top flight career with us as a proper legend. Often think that his performances go up and down based on who he is playing with. DM seems to make him more confident.
Aye it’s funny I said the same to my auld man that porteous also seems to play better next to DM.
BILLYHIBS
17-07-2021, 11:36 AM
Olivier Giroud joins AC Milan
BBC Sport
Callum_62
17-07-2021, 12:59 PM
Wonder if we are hoping to keep a hold of our more in demand players until we progress or go our of Europe
Didn't the same happen with Mcginn?
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GloryGlory
17-07-2021, 01:03 PM
Wonder if we are hoping to keep a hold of our more in demand players until we progress or go our of Europe
Didn't the same happen with Mcginn?
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ISTR he left after the Asteras tie and before the Molde tie.
davhibby
17-07-2021, 01:24 PM
Doidge couldn’t play that role, imagine him trying to run onto Scott Allan through balls, would be awful. Nisbet is the man for it if he’s here.
No need to imagine, as I’m assuming you watched some games 2 seasons ago when it happened regularly.
As an aside, Odoffin isn’t in the Hamilton squad today. Wonder if we’re still interested in him
Heisenberg
17-07-2021, 01:31 PM
No need to imagine, as I’m assuming you watched some games 2 seasons ago when it happened regularly.
As an aside, Odoffin isn’t in the Hamilton squad today. Wonder if we’re still interested in him
Good spot. Might be on the move somewhere.
Billy Whizz
17-07-2021, 01:34 PM
No Hakeem Odoffin for Hamilton today, Accies fans think he’s been sold
https://twitter.com/acciesfc/status/1416379154786918406?s=21
RyeSloan
17-07-2021, 02:06 PM
No Hakeem Odoffin for Hamilton today, Accies fans think he’s been sold
https://twitter.com/acciesfc/status/1416379154786918406?s=21
A total aside but what were they thinking when putting their sponsor in that spot on their shirt!
Renfrew_Hibby
17-07-2021, 02:09 PM
A total aside but what were they thinking when putting their sponsor in that spot on their shirt!
Sponsor looking for a refund?
Orchard_Hibs
17-07-2021, 02:17 PM
I reckon McCart would go in ahead of either Hanlon or Porteous. Much more solid defender for me
Sorry but what a load of nonsense, mccart is at the height of his career as is Hanlon, Porteous will go on to bigger and better things. Yes saints beat us in a cup final we didn’t turn up for but these guys are not better than what we have with the exception of maybe McCann
Hibiza
17-07-2021, 02:18 PM
I'd still go for O'Donnell .
CapitalGreen
17-07-2021, 02:30 PM
No Hakeem Odoffin for Hamilton today, Accies fans think he’s been sold
https://twitter.com/acciesfc/status/1416379154786918406?s=21
No McMann either who we were also linked with.
AlbertK86
17-07-2021, 02:34 PM
I think we still need a third centre half, regardless of Porteous going or staying.
McCart would be third choice of the three, I’ve little doubt about that. St Johnstone conceded 11 more league goals than us, despite being a more defensive side, and despite their defenders having a “great season” compared to ours who were regularly slated on here.
We don’t appreciate what we have, not nearly enough.
I think he’d be straight in at LCH and hopefully Hanlon into sweeper behind him and Porto or McGinn.
Porto and Hanlon were both very careless last night.
Pretty sure if we end up paying decent money then McCart will be a first pick.
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Billy Whizz
17-07-2021, 02:36 PM
No McMann either who we were also linked with.
What position does he play
04Sauzee
17-07-2021, 02:39 PM
What position does he play
Left back I believe
Brightside
17-07-2021, 02:42 PM
Most people didn’t even know who McCart was until a couple of months ago! I think he’s an excellent defender who we could develop into top class.
Key West
17-07-2021, 03:54 PM
Not when we play high balls in. But when we play football into the channels with Boyle Allan and whoever on the left I think it would work.
Very few players have been successful as the lone striker, Mixu and Holt were very good with their back to goal, neither Nisbet or Doidge are great at protecting the ball, if we have to rely on Scott Allan I’d be worried not because of his lack of ability but his condition and I hope for him and us that he gets a lot of game time.
We relied far too much on Boyle last season and he was arguably the difference between us and the opposition outside of The Rangers and Celtic.
Dazzjw1875
17-07-2021, 07:20 PM
https://twitter.com/chrisIarsson85/status/1416444235281309699?s=19
04Sauzee
17-07-2021, 07:25 PM
https://twitter.com/chrisIarsson85/status/1416444235281309699?s=19
Sure that boys a slaver. I could be wrong though.
ElginHibbie
17-07-2021, 07:28 PM
Sure that boys a slaver. I could be wrong though.
Yeah, too many questionable things on that account to make me thing it's genuine in the slightest
Dazzjw1875
17-07-2021, 07:38 PM
Sure that boys a slaver. I could be wrong though.
I thought it could just be guessing with him missing today and our previous
It's mentioned interest, but thought I would post anyway!
04Sauzee
17-07-2021, 07:41 PM
I thought it could just be guessing with him missing today and our previous
It's mentioned interest, but thought I would post anyway!
It's cool post away it's difficult to know who's genuine on twitter,been caught out loads of times myself 😁
Notice he has said Obika is ok our list of strikers. Obika signed for Morecambe in the summer.
Gordy M
17-07-2021, 07:43 PM
I thought it could just be guessing with him missing today and our previous
It's mentioned interest, but thought I would post anyway!
He has also posted that we have a shortlist of strikers, Griffiths, Obika, itten(loan) and Shankland.....
hibbysam
17-07-2021, 07:46 PM
No need to imagine, as I’m assuming you watched some games 2 seasons ago when it happened regularly.
As an aside, Odoffin isn’t in the Hamilton squad today. Wonder if we’re still interested in him
Honestly I can’t remember Doidge running onto Allan’s through balls, the majority of his goals have come in and around the 6 yard box. I like the big guy but he doesn’t have the pace to run onto things. He really needs someone beside him, and that was evident that season.
Nisbet in front of three from Allan Mackay Boyle or Murphy is the way forward for me. Can then be changed by sacrificing one for Doidge if it’s not going well.
Nisbet has the ability to come short and link up, drift wide and switch with the wingers, play on the shoulder and run in behind. Doidge doesn’t possess those qualities but is very good in his own ways.
(I just don’t want to see us play 3 at the back as I want our wingers high up the park and that’s the only way to play two strikers).
Unseen work
17-07-2021, 07:59 PM
All of those Hibs Twitter pages are so so sad.
“Journalists” who have 3 tweets and just chuck every possible rumour out there hoping one sticks so they can claim they’re ITK.
The worst is the Hibs Transfer news one’s, look like they’re run by 10 year olds.
Iggy Pope
17-07-2021, 08:03 PM
All of those Hibs Twitter pages are so so sad.
“Journalists” who have 3 tweets and just chuck every possible rumour out there hoping one sticks so they can claim they’re ITK.
The worst is the Hibs Transfer news one’s, look like they’re run by 10 year olds.
I think it’s run by an over 10 that posted bollox on here before that.
Andy74
17-07-2021, 08:08 PM
All of those Hibs Twitter pages are so so sad.
“Journalists” who have 3 tweets and just chuck every possible rumour out there hoping one sticks so they can claim they’re ITK.
The worst is the Hibs Transfer news one’s, look like they’re run by 10 year olds.
What a way to live your life. Very odd.
King Cosell
17-07-2021, 09:13 PM
Just noticed Livi centre-back Jon Guthrie has joined Northampton. He could have done a job for us. Maybe not first choice.
04Sauzee
17-07-2021, 10:01 PM
Sun reports
EXCLUSIVE: Sunderland target Celtic striker Leigh Griffiths in shock loan move
https://t.co/wpfI3BgVcW https://t.co/qBsna2n8y3
SMAXXA
17-07-2021, 10:12 PM
Recent reports state that Ryan Porteous insists he is happy at Hibs and wants to continue his development at ER.
How much of this comes under the football banner of Said and Done is open to interpretation
Surely Hibs have got to sort this out as a matter of urgency.
There is no point in Hibs going after defenders like Jamie McCart if Porteous intends to stay and continue his partnership with Paul Hanlon.
With Darren McGregor continuing as back up,should Hibs now be looking for more back up defenders. rather than those who would be looking to be first picks.
This should be greeted with a massive sense of relief and positivity that a young player who actually wants to be with us and plays pretty much every week. On one hand we are slaughtering Nisbet for wanting to leave yet we have a talented young player wanting to stay and the response seems to me to be a bit meh
TelaStella
17-07-2021, 10:25 PM
Same guy spraffing the Odoffin chat is claiming we’re in for Nicky Clark, a deal apparently pretty much agreed.
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JimBHibees
17-07-2021, 10:38 PM
Same guy spraffing the Odoffin chat is claiming we’re in for Nicky Clark, a deal apparently pretty much agreed.
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The Clark chat would I am assuming rate that source as nonsense.
King Cosell
17-07-2021, 11:01 PM
The Clark chat would I am assuming rate that source as nonsense.
If he was free, I'd take him, but he's 30 years old, got 2 years on his contract, and they'd want at least 250k.
King Cosell
18-07-2021, 12:21 AM
I follow Charleston Battery on Twitter. Romario Piggott just scored a cracker.
HoboHarry
18-07-2021, 12:54 AM
Watching the Gold Cup game between Grenada and Qatar. The Qatar midfielder Afif looks like he would do well for us but no idea what he would cost. One of the Grenada players plays for Ross County apparently......
eastmainsmsh
18-07-2021, 12:58 AM
https://youtu.be/UgjCjETvvTQ
JimBHibees
18-07-2021, 06:53 AM
If he was free, I'd take him, but he's 30 years old, got 2 years on his contract, and they'd want at least 250k.
Not sure I would even if free :greengrin
04Sauzee
18-07-2021, 07:11 AM
Mallan signs for Turkish club official
✅ ✍️ Transfer | Geçtiğimiz sezon kulübümüzde kiralık olarak forma giyen Stevie Mallan ile 2 yıllık sözleşme imzalamış bulunmaktayız.
Hoş geldin Stevie! https://t.co/6T8S7jqyKJ
Hibs also announce
Midfielder @MallanStephen joins Turkish club @YMSkulubu on a permanent deal.
Good luck, Stevie 💚
Crunchie
18-07-2021, 07:24 AM
Mallan signs for Turkish club official
✅ ✍️ Transfer | Geçtiğimiz sezon kulübümüzde kiralık olarak forma giyen Stevie Mallan ile 2 yıllık sözleşme imzalamış bulunmaktayız.
Hoş geldin Stevie! https://t.co/6T8S7jqyKJ
Hibs also announce
Midfielder @MallanStephen joins Turkish club @YMSkulubu on a permanent deal.
Good luck, Stevie 💚
I have to say I thought it was a daft move when he left to go over there, I'm delighted it's worked out for him. All the best Stevie :aok:
Allant1981
18-07-2021, 07:31 AM
If he was free, I'd take him, but he's 30 years old, got 2 years on his contract, and they'd want at least 250k.
Not a chance they are getting anywhere near 250k for nicky clark
Mallan signs for Turkish club official
✅ ✍️ Transfer | Geçtiğimiz sezon kulübümüzde kiralık olarak forma giyen Stevie Mallan ile 2 yıllık sözleşme imzalamış bulunmaktayız.
Hoş geldin Stevie! https://t.co/6T8S7jqyKJ
Hibs also announce
Midfielder @MallanStephen joins Turkish club @YMSkulubu on a permanent deal.
Good luck, Stevie 💚
Good luck to him, obviously enjoyed his time over there, got to be happy in your career.
JimBHibees
18-07-2021, 07:32 AM
I have to say I thought it was a daft move when he left to go over there, I'm delighted it's worked out for him. All the best Stevie :aok:
Personally always have a bit of respect guys who move to other countries and cultures which imo can only be good on a personal development and experience level. Hope it works well for him.
Iain G
18-07-2021, 07:33 AM
Not a chance they are getting anywhere near 250k for nicky clark
That would be a snip...
Allant1981
18-07-2021, 07:42 AM
That would be a snip...
I had to think about that one😁
04Sauzee
18-07-2021, 07:54 AM
I had to think about that one😁
Reckon it would be a hairbrained idea to sign him
04Sauzee
18-07-2021, 07:59 AM
I follow Charleston Battery on Twitter. Romario Piggott just scored a cracker.
Goal here
https://twitter.com/Chas_Battery/status/1416549570251825152?s=19
Peevemor
18-07-2021, 08:03 AM
Goal here
https://twitter.com/Chas_Battery/status/1416549570251825152?s=19Excellent commentary too!
Reckon it would be a hairbrained idea to sign him
I really think this rumour needs brushed to the side and hopefully there is nothing PERManent in it!
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Bostonhibby
18-07-2021, 08:38 AM
That would be a snip...A straight choice between us getting Nicky Clark or getting the snip, hmm.....
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Since452
18-07-2021, 08:45 AM
Mallan signs for Turkish club official
✅ ✍️ Transfer | Geçtiğimiz sezon kulübümüzde kiralık olarak forma giyen Stevie Mallan ile 2 yıllık sözleşme imzalamış bulunmaktayız.
Hoş geldin Stevie! https://t.co/6T8S7jqyKJ
Hibs also announce
Midfielder @MallanStephen joins Turkish club @YMSkulubu on a permanent deal.
Good luck, Stevie 💚
Was always leaving you felt. Great move for him. Some absolutely stunning goals. Good luck to him.
Since452
18-07-2021, 08:47 AM
Same guy spraffing the Odoffin chat is claiming we’re in for Nicky Clark, a deal apparently pretty much agreed.
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He's another James Keatings for me.
Iain G
18-07-2021, 08:58 AM
I had to think about that one😁
Could come in and sort out Nisbets hair mind you!
Centre Hawf
18-07-2021, 08:58 AM
I genuinely wish all the good luck to Stevie Mallan, I wasn't his biggest fan in terms of his overall game but his eye for goals from midfield were some of the best we had for many a year, it was shame we couldn't work out how to either improve the other sides of his game to make it work for us or even fit him into a system to get the best out of his talents as I always felt we used him in a way that stifled that especially under Jack Ross. But that's football and we can't accommodate one man or player who didn't do much to justify it.
On McCart I would be delighted to bring him in as we're one Porteous/Hanlon/McGinn injury away from a crisis at the back when you consider Daz looks like he can only really play a few games back to back before he looks a bit exhausted.
Odoffin I'm still not sure about, feels like another utility man that might not nail down an actual place in the team but instead get flung to RB then CB before mostly playing CDM when Gogic is tired. Although he does come highly rated I can't see him being a standout improvement on the lads we currently have.
Greenbeard
18-07-2021, 09:09 AM
Personally always have a bit of respect guys who move to other countries and cultures which imo can only be good on a personal development and experience level. Hope it works well for him.
Aye good on him especially as he is smack bang in the middle of the country (and a vast country at that), not in a tourist/international area.
Which paper will be first with the "Turkish Delight for Mallan" headline?
Saint Hibee
18-07-2021, 09:11 AM
All this talk of McCart, but Rooney always struck me as their standout defender last season - or has he already been sold?
Greenbeard
18-07-2021, 09:12 AM
I genuinely wish all the good luck to Stevie Mallan, I wasn't his biggest fan in terms of his overall game but his eye for goals from midfield were some of the best we had for many a year, it was shame we couldn't work out how to either improve the other sides of his game to make it work for us or even fit him into a system to get the best out of his talents as I always felt we used him in a way that stifled that especially under Jack Ross. But that's football and we can't accommodate one man or player who didn't do much to justify it.
On McCart I would be delighted to bring him in as we're one Porteous/Hanlon/McGinn injury away from a crisis at the back when you consider Daz looks like he can only really play a few games back to back before he looks a bit exhausted.
Odoffin I'm still not sure about, feels like another utility man that might not nail down an actual place in the team but instead get flung to RB then CB before mostly playing CDM when Gogic is tired. Although he does come highly rated I can't see him being a standout improvement on the lads we currently have.
Has Gogic not been covering central defence pre-season?
Brightside
18-07-2021, 09:22 AM
Has Gogic not been covering central defence pre-season?
Yes. Badly. It’s not the answer.
neil7908
18-07-2021, 09:25 AM
All this talk of McCart, but Rooney always struck me as their standout defender last season - or has he already been sold?
Agreed. Not sure what he'd cost but seems like a player we should be looking at. Paul McGinn has done well but he's 30 - not a long term solution in that position.
Centre Hawf
18-07-2021, 09:35 AM
Has Gogic not been covering central defence pre-season?
I haven't seen him play there much this pre season beyond the last 10 minutes or so vs Arsenal and while that's not a huge sample size it does leave me worried if that's our answer. Perhaps in a back 3 he could get away with it but I'd struggle to see him playing in a flat 4 beside someone like Porteous or McGinn.
CMurdoch
18-07-2021, 09:58 AM
Has Gogic not been covering central defence pre-season?
Has always been a poor central defender.
Was always leaving you felt. Great move for him. Some absolutely stunning goals. Good luck to him.
100% this. Very best of luck Stevie!
Oscar T Grouch
18-07-2021, 10:35 AM
Someone has changed Nicky Clarke’s wiki page to show him as a Hibs player. Like others have said I’d believe it if he didn’t have two years left on his deal with United. Can’t see the move going through but he still averages a goal every 3 games so a decent striker at this level.
CallumLaidlaw
18-07-2021, 10:37 AM
Agreed. Not sure what he'd cost but seems like a player we should be looking at. Paul McGinn has done well but he's 30 - not a long term solution in that position.
Isn’t Cadden the long term solution in that position?
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Isn’t Cadden the long term solution in that position?
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Big problem with Cadden is his versatility, he can play, RB, RW and midfield, handy I suppose but may suffer from being shunted around the place, a bit like Witherspoon.
SMAXXA
18-07-2021, 10:51 AM
Big problem with Cadden is his versatility, he can play, RB, RW and midfield, handy I suppose but may suffer from being shunted around the place, a bit like Witherspoon.
Or may increase his chances of playing every week these things can be looked upon both ways
1875Sean
18-07-2021, 10:53 AM
Anyone hear what we got for Mallan? Seen online it’s an low six figure sum
King Cosell
18-07-2021, 11:02 AM
Someone has changed Nicky Clarke’s wiki page to show him as a Hibs player. Like others have said I’d believe it if he didn’t have two years left on his deal with United. Can’t see the move going through but he still averages a goal every 3 games so a decent striker at this level.
If true, we'll have to ban his dad from the ground. Don't want him lurking.
GordonHFC
18-07-2021, 11:15 AM
anyone hear what we got for mallan? Seen online it’s an low six figure sum
170k
Jones28
18-07-2021, 11:25 AM
Has Nicky Clark actually done anything to suggest anyone would be interested in him?
CapitalGreen
18-07-2021, 11:27 AM
Has Nicky Clark actually done anything to suggest anyone would be interested in him?
We’re not interested in him.
Del Boy
18-07-2021, 11:32 AM
Nicky Clark is a decent enough player, good finisher and has a decent touch. No much pace though. Can’t see us being in for him but would t be a bad player to have in the squad IMO
Smartie
18-07-2021, 11:44 AM
Someone has changed Nicky Clarke’s wiki page to show him as a Hibs player. Like others have said I’d believe it if he didn’t have two years left on his deal with United. Can’t see the move going through but he still averages a goal every 3 games so a decent striker at this level.
Has he actually played much at this level though, have most of his appearances and goals not been in the lower leagues?
FWIW I’d have quite liked Hibs to have signed Clarke when he was at QotS, he scored a lot of goals there and was a young player with potential.
Not so sure I’d be in a rush to sign him now, although I don’t think he’s a bad player.
Hibs legend.
Stumbled over the ball kicked it out and the rest is history....
04Sauzee
18-07-2021, 11:50 AM
Hibs legend.
Stumbled over the ball kicked it out and the rest is history....
Every time I see him that's what I think about 👍😁
Has Nicky Clark actually done anything to suggest anyone would be interested in him?
Scored more goals for United last season than Shankland whom a lot of folk round here seem to think we should be shelling out big money for?
FWIW, I can't see us being in for Clarke either.
Or may increase his chances of playing every week these things can be looked upon both ways
True but I like players focussed on one position.
Hibs1969
18-07-2021, 12:09 PM
Every time I see him that's what I think about 👍😁
Me too, whether he knows it or not, he’s part of Hibs folklore.
NORTHERNHIBBY
18-07-2021, 12:09 PM
Good to see that Mallan has got himself a decent move. I don't think he would have got that from the obscurity of the Barnsley reserves. We have done the right thing by him.
Souter96Mac
18-07-2021, 12:11 PM
If we keep the squad as is, I'd be happy if we only brought in Odoffin and Melamed. Think they would help provide depth to the two areas we need it most.
Think the main focus for the recruitment team is making sure we have targets in place if/when the likes of Nisbet, Boyle, Doig and/or Porto leave.
That will be the harder task imo, even just replacing one of them.
The Count
18-07-2021, 12:13 PM
If we are serious in being the constant 3rd force in Scottish football then players like Clark even as back up aint going to do it.Hope the rumour is tripe.
Seveno
18-07-2021, 12:45 PM
Could someone remind, who was the last signing from St Johnstone that worked out?
TelaStella
18-07-2021, 12:52 PM
Agreed. Not sure what he'd cost but seems like a player we should be looking at. Paul McGinn has done well but he's 30 - not a long term solution in that position.
They knocked back around 200,000 for him just the other week.
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Could someone remind, who was the last signing from St Johnstone that worked out?
John O'Neil but not sure how many we have signed from them since. Liam Craig springs to mind.
badabing67
18-07-2021, 01:01 PM
Could someone remind, who was the last signing from St Johnstone that worked out?
Thought David Wotherspoon done alright
oneone73
18-07-2021, 01:12 PM
Thought David Wotherspoon done alright
He was to St Johnstone, not from, though
Caversham Green
18-07-2021, 01:35 PM
Could someone remind, who was the last signing from St Johnstone that worked out?
Are you suggesting that we shouldn't sign players from certain clubs because previous signing from those clubs didn't work out? That puts serious limits on our targets.
Makalamby never worked out - does that mean we shouldn't consider signing Mason Mount if we could afford him?
1875Sean
18-07-2021, 01:45 PM
They knocked back around 200,000 for him just the other week.
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From who?
Billy Whizz
18-07-2021, 01:47 PM
From who?
Rotherham
TelaStella
18-07-2021, 02:07 PM
From who?
Rotherham.
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Iain G
18-07-2021, 02:31 PM
Has Nicky Clark actually done anything to suggest anyone would be interested in him?
Love to see his highlights reel 🤣
scotiaf
18-07-2021, 02:37 PM
Anyone hear what we got for Mallan? Seen online it’s an low six figure sum
I’d guess by the time we paid his contract up, not a lot left. But better than nothing.
Andy74
18-07-2021, 02:51 PM
I’d guess by the time we paid his contract up, not a lot left. But better than nothing.
Why would we be paying his contract up?
JohnMcM
18-07-2021, 02:53 PM
Why would we be paying his contract up?
Because we are a forward thinking, community focussed, do the right thing club?👍
MWHIBBIES
18-07-2021, 02:56 PM
Because we are a forward thinking, community focussed, do the right thing club?👍
I’d guess by the time we paid his contract up, not a lot left. But better than nothing.
He was sold, not freed.
JohnMcM
18-07-2021, 03:00 PM
He was sold, not freed.
You are correct. My comment was meant tongue in cheek, appears my tongue is not long enough though :wink:
southern hibby
18-07-2021, 03:02 PM
A straight choice between us getting Nicky Clark or getting the snip, hmm.....
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I’ve had the snip but I’ve no had Nicky Clarke ( his loss I suppose )
GGTTH
Bostonhibby
18-07-2021, 03:03 PM
I’ve had the snip but I’ve no had Nicky Clarke ( his loss I suppose )
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Caversham Green
18-07-2021, 03:04 PM
I’ve had the snip but I’ve no had Nicky Clarke ( his loss I suppose )
GGTTH
Too much information there I think.
HendoDelivered
18-07-2021, 04:03 PM
Could someone remind, who was the last signing from St Johnstone that worked out?
Silly mentality.
Since452
18-07-2021, 04:44 PM
Could someone remind, who was the last signing from St Johnstone that worked out?
I get what you're saying but the laws of averages and all that... We're due a cracker from them. O'Neil was the obvious stand out. Quality player. Craig was alright, Morais was ok if he counts. Swanson was a poor signing I thought. Drey might come good we'll see.
Heisenberg
18-07-2021, 05:23 PM
Andy Shinnie signing for Livingston.
bigwheel
18-07-2021, 05:32 PM
Andy Shinnie signing for Livingston.
Good quality signing for them …
Seveno
18-07-2021, 06:10 PM
Are you suggesting that we shouldn't sign players from certain clubs because previous signing from those clubs didn't work out? That puts serious limits on our targets.
Makalamby never worked out - does that mean we shouldn't consider signing Mason Mount if we could afford him?
The question that I am raising is that we have signed a number of players over the years from St Johnstone that were highly rated whilst at that club, including by their fans. Is there something about the St Johnstone set up that means their players cannot cope with the change of style and/ or size of Hibs?
I would suggest that the size of the sample from Chelsea is inadequate to determine how well Mason Mount would fit in at ER but I would be prepared to take a punt on him. Have you heard anything?
The question that I am raising is that we have signed a number of players over the years from St Johnstone that were highly rated whilst at that club, including by their fans. Is there something about the St Johnstone set up that means their players cannot cope with the change of style and/ or size of Hibs?
I would suggest that the size of the sample from Chelsea is inadequate to determine how well Mason Mount would fit in at ER but I would be prepared to take a punt on him. Have you heard anything?
Maybe couldn't cope with the expectations at Hibs.
Iain G
18-07-2021, 06:37 PM
Maybe couldn't cope with the expectations at Hibs.
Why do I expect somehow this will get twisted into mason Mount wouldn't be able to handle the expectation level of playing for Hibs 😁
SMAXXA
18-07-2021, 08:09 PM
True but I like players focussed on one position.
When you have to flex your budget to the extent of us we need players who can play a few positions. It would be great to have 2 Scott Allans and 2 Martin Boyle’s but reality dictates that’s not going to happen
Why do I expect somehow this will get twisted into mason Mount wouldn't be able to handle the expectation level of playing for Hibs 😁
Haha St Johnstone players obviously. 😁
When you have to flex your budget to the extent of us we need players who can play a few positions. It would be great to have 2 Scott Allans and 2 Martin Boyle’s but reality dictates that’s not going to happen
I totally understand and budget plays a big part in all this. I remember Leeann said she wanted 2 players for every position with some youngsters there to fill the squad out, I don't think we've ever achieved that, unfortunately real life isn't like Football Manager 😁
#2 Double Tap
18-07-2021, 09:21 PM
I totally understand and budget plays a big part in all this. I remember Leeann said she wanted 2 players for every position with some youngsters there to fill the squad out, I don't think we've ever achieved that, unfortunately real life isn't like Football Manager
true, but we are only 2 players short of having just that, it is very achievable imo.
macey
dabrowski
.......cadden porteous hanlon doig
.......mcginn mcgregor ?????? mackie
........................................stevenson
.............gogic.......... newell
.............doyle-hayes mcgennis
.............hallberg
.............boyle allan mackay
.............wright ????? murphy
.............bradley........ gullen
.....................doidge
.....................nisbet
GreenCastle
18-07-2021, 09:38 PM
true, but we are only 2 players short of having just that, it is very achievable imo.
macey
dabrowski
.......cadden porteous hanlon doig
.......mcginn mcgregor ?????? mackie
........................................stevenson
.............gogic.......... newell
.............doyle-hayes mcgennis
.............hallberg
.............boyle allan mackay
.............wright ????? murphy
.............bradley........ gullen
.....................doidge
.....................nisbet
I still don’t think we are as strong as last season.
We have added 2 but I doubt they will play regularly.
We really need x2 starting players who will add quality to the team and play regularly if we are to progress. If we lose anyone we will need 2 plus whatever we lose.
I don’t think the team has that X factor yet and I hope we can recruit some players which will make us stronger than last season.
Nicho87
18-07-2021, 09:39 PM
true, but we are only 2 players short of having just that, it is very achievable imo.
macey
dabrowski
.......cadden porteous hanlon doig
.......mcginn mcgregor ?????? mackie
........................................stevenson
.............gogic.......... newell
.............doyle-hayes mcgennis
.............hallberg
.............boyle allan mackay
.............wright ????? murphy
.............bradley........ gullen
.....................doidge
.....................nisbet
Think where Ross has been clever is he has a few players that can slot in to several positions
Gogic - centre half
McGinn - centre back of a 3
Cadden - anywhere down the right - even centre mid if needed
Boyle - winger - centre forward
Mackay - winger - wife of a front 3
Murphy - see Mackay
Inconsequential
18-07-2021, 09:45 PM
Think where Ross has been clever is he has a few players that can slot in to several positions
Gogic - centre half
McGinn - centre back of a 3
Cadden - anywhere down the right - even centre mid if needed
Boyle - winger - centre forward
Mackay - winger - wife of a front 3
Murphy - see Mackay
Daniel MacKay got married? 3 times apparently. What a wifey!
Damn technology eh?
CentreLine
18-07-2021, 09:47 PM
Think where Ross has been clever is he has a few players that can slot in to several positions
Gogic - centre half
McGinn - centre back of a 3
Cadden - anywhere down the right - even centre mid if needed
Boyle - winger - centre forward
Mackay - winger - wife of a front 3
Murphy - see Mackay
Very impressive flexibility, especially Mackay and Murphy. I had no idea 🤣
hibbyfraelibby
18-07-2021, 09:59 PM
Think where Ross has been clever is he has a few players that can slot in to several positions
Gogic - centre half
McGinn - centre back of a 3
Cadden - anywhere down the right - even centre mid if needed
Boyle - winger - centre forward
Mackay - winger - wife of a front 3
Murphy - see Mackay
I think you can add Hallberg in a CF cover. He did none too badly in that role a coulle of times towards the end of last season in the cup
Nicho87
18-07-2021, 10:06 PM
Daniel MacKay got married? 3 times apparently. What a wifey!
Damn technology eh?
Love a predictive text 😬
Dunbar Hibee
18-07-2021, 11:09 PM
Anybody heard anything about a certain former Hearts CH...
Callum_62
18-07-2021, 11:10 PM
Anybody heard anything about a certain former Hearts CH...Ozturk?
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CloudSquall
18-07-2021, 11:18 PM
Anybody heard anything about a certain former Hearts CH...
Please god no...
Apparentley West Ham are showing some interest in Doig. Not sure if he has been linked with a potential move to them up to now.
Hibee Mac
18-07-2021, 11:54 PM
Andy Shinnie signing for Livingston.Struggled to stand out in the championship, not sure he'll do much there.
Unseen work
19-07-2021, 12:34 AM
Ozturk.
Think Shinnie will be a cracking signing for Livi and will be used correctly, something i never thought he was here.
cabbageandribs1875
19-07-2021, 02:02 AM
Livi Manager Martindale said a few weeks back in the local rag his Livingston squad will be the most exciting they've had
Heisenberg
19-07-2021, 06:29 AM
Anybody heard anything about a certain former Hearts CH...
It was mentioned on here last week. Would not be keen on Ozturk at all. Surely our scouting department could come up with better.
flash
19-07-2021, 06:46 AM
It was mentioned on here last week. Would not be keen on Ozturk at all. Surely our scouting department could come up with better.
Taking away the fact he played for Hertz and scored that ridiculous goal I can't remember if he was up to much.
Was he in the team that got promoted then did really well in their first season back in the top division?
04Sauzee
19-07-2021, 06:53 AM
Taking away the fact he played for Hertz and scored that ridiculous goal I can't remember if he was up to much.
Was he in the team that got promoted then did really well in their first season back in the top division?
Played 26 or so league games the season they finished 3rd in the league.
JimBHibees
19-07-2021, 06:55 AM
Livi Manager Martindale said a few weeks back in the local rag his Livingston squad will be the most exciting they've had
He tends to be a bit of a slaver though :greengrin
Actually had it in my head he had been sacked by Livi, too much sun I think. :greengrin
flash
19-07-2021, 06:58 AM
Played 26 or so league games the season they finished 3rd in the league.
I can only remember that he could hit a ball. Better read up just in case this one is true!
Heisenberg
19-07-2021, 06:58 AM
Taking away the fact he played for Hertz and scored that ridiculous goal I can't remember if he was up to much.
Was he in the team that got promoted then did really well in their first season back in the top division?
He seems to have played that season then been replaced. My memory of him was that he just wasn’t all that great a defender. Might be an ok squad filler but not good enough to play every week. Seems he’s under contract with a Turkish club just now too.
flash
19-07-2021, 06:59 AM
He tends to be a bit of a slaver though :greengrin
Actually had it in my head he had been sacked by Livi, too much sun I think. :greengrin
Not sure Barcelona would be exciting on that pitch never mind Livi.
flash
19-07-2021, 07:00 AM
He seems to have played that season then been replaced. My memory of him was that he just wasn’t all that great a defender. Might be an ok squad filler but not good enough to play every week. Seems he’s under contract with a Turkish club just now too.
I thought that too but the time he was at Hertz they were doing pretty well.
JimBHibees
19-07-2021, 07:05 AM
Taking away the fact he played for Hertz and scored that ridiculous goal I can't remember if he was up to much.
Was he in the team that got promoted then did really well in their first season back in the top division?
Think reasonable player though not sure if a great defender. Ross will obviously know him from Sunderland
flash
19-07-2021, 07:06 AM
Think reasonable player though not sure if a great defender. Ross will obviously know him from Sunderland
More of a Porteous than a McGregor maybe Jim. Good on the ball but prone to throw in a wee mistake.
JimBHibees
19-07-2021, 07:07 AM
More of a Porteous than a McGregor maybe Jim. Good on the ball but prone to throw in a wee mistake.
Pretty good summary from what I remember of him
SHODAN
19-07-2021, 07:37 AM
The Hertz love Ozturk so it would be a big risk for him to come here. Unless he doesn't give a **** of course.
GreenCastle
19-07-2021, 07:48 AM
Ozturk has similarities to Efe.
On their day can be excellent but the style of play can mean mistakes but it can also be refreshing to watch a defender move the ball out from the back etc.
At Sunderland if you read about him - he’s either awful or excellent and some were surprised he was let go.
Obviously playing for Hearts and scoring against us will concern some but he’s still only 28 and knows the league. Hearts fans didn’t want him to leave and I remember him being solid enough in Scotland. He’s playing in the 2nd Div in Turkey - he would be a decent squad player and Ross obviously knows his character etc.
Since90+2
19-07-2021, 07:52 AM
Ozturk would de decent enough. He's not as good as a prime Daz or an inform Porteous but I don't think he'd be the worst signing.
S4uzee
19-07-2021, 07:54 AM
Ozturk has similarities to Efe.
On their day can be excellent but the style of play can mean mistakes but it can also be refreshing to watch a defender move the ball out from the back etc.
At Sunderland if you read about him - he’s either awful or excellent and some were surprised he was let go.
Obviously playing for Hearts and scoring against us will concern some but he’s still only 28 and knows the league. Hearts fans didn’t want him to leave and I remember him being solid enough in Scotland. He’s playing in the 2nd Div in Turkey - he would be a decent squad player and Ross obviously knows his character etc.
He’s nowhere near Efe
Hiber-nation
19-07-2021, 08:17 AM
He’s nowhere near Efe
Not the Efe of 2017-18 anyway.
Ozturk is as slow as a week in the jail.
CentreLine
19-07-2021, 08:17 AM
He’s nowhere near Efe
Can’t for the life of me think what made him pop in to my head but we could fair do with on other Frank Sauzee.
Actually, what we need is a solid defender who has the leadership qualities to organise and direct those around him. Closest we have is big Daz
GreenCastle
19-07-2021, 08:36 AM
He’s nowhere near Efe
Efe definitely the better player.
Greenworld
19-07-2021, 09:07 AM
Can’t for the life of me think what made him pop in to my head but we could fair do with on other Frank Sauzee.
Actually, what we need is a solid defender who has the leadership qualities to organise and direct those around him. Closest we have is big DazI assume we will go back for jamie mccart at st johnstone ..with the mallan money an offer of 350k sounds about right
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TheHibernator
19-07-2021, 10:42 AM
Ozturk.
Think Shinnie will be a cracking signing for Livi and will be used correctly, something i never thought he was here.
Shinnies second touch was a tackle
flash
19-07-2021, 11:02 AM
Shinnies second touch was a tackle
He was pretty poor to be fair. We as a support like to slate our own potential signings and bum everybody else's up.
04Sauzee
19-07-2021, 11:26 AM
Dundee make a couple of signings
We are delighted to announce the signing of Cillian Sheridan #thedee
➡️ https://t.co/3jYfHUr09Q https://t.co/TwKPGbjHkM
We are delighted to announce the signing of goalkeeper Ian Lawlor #thedee
➡️ https://t.co/7E5wrROX4f https://t.co/5FJw9cVyAw
Dundee make a couple of signings
We are delighted to announce the signing of Cillian Sheridan #thedee
➡️ https://t.co/3jYfHUr09Q https://t.co/TwKPGbjHkM
We are delighted to announce the signing of goalkeeper Ian Lawlor #thedee
➡️ https://t.co/7E5wrROX4f https://t.co/5FJw9cVyAw
Dundee going for the oldest team in the league.
bigwheel
19-07-2021, 11:42 AM
He was pretty poor to be fair. We as a support like to slate our own potential signings and bum everybody else's up.
Wasn’t what I saw - he could have some games that passed him by, but on other days he was quality, set the tempo and linked up play..did well for Charlton last season until he got injured. Think he will do well there too . Not saying we should have signed him or anything , but didn’t see him as poor
flash
19-07-2021, 12:02 PM
Wasn’t what I saw - he could have some games that passed him by, but on other days he was quality, set the tempo and linked up play..did well for Charlton last season until he got injured. Think he will do well there too . Not saying we should have signed him or anything , but didn’t see him as poor
Opinions. We shall see how he goes.
flash
19-07-2021, 01:08 PM
Melamed is on trial at Grimsby who are in the English 5th tier so I reckon we can swiftly rule him out.
Wilson
19-07-2021, 01:11 PM
Melamed is on trial at Grimsby who are in the English 5th tier so I reckon we can swiftly rule him out.
Aye. Can't compete with that.
calumhibee1
19-07-2021, 01:13 PM
He was pretty poor to be fair. We as a support like to slate our own potential signings and bum everybody else's up.
Agree. I was really keen for us to sign him but he really wasn’t that exciting.
flash
19-07-2021, 01:17 PM
Aye. Can't compete with that.
My point was the opposite. If we were in for him he wouldn't be scrambling about down there.
Jones28
19-07-2021, 01:29 PM
Aye. Can't compete with that.
If he’s looking to go to Grimsby Town he should be left well alone.
GreenCastle
19-07-2021, 03:42 PM
Is there a deadline to register players / a squad for Europe?
johncrobertson@
19-07-2021, 06:28 PM
Tom James joins Leyton Orient on a one year deal
Callum_62
19-07-2021, 06:28 PM
Tom James joins Leyton Orient on a one year dealExcellent [emoji108][emoji106]
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Billy Whizz
19-07-2021, 06:30 PM
Tom James joins Leyton Orient on a one year deal
Think that’s him gone from Hibs now?
neil7908
19-07-2021, 06:30 PM
Tom James joins Leyton Orient on a one year deal
Pleased to get him off the wage bill. Hopefully with him and Mallan gone we'll see a bit more movement.
bingo70
19-07-2021, 06:33 PM
Tom James joins Leyton Orient on a one year deal
The hits just keep on coming.
What a day to be a Hibs fan.
04Sauzee
19-07-2021, 07:00 PM
So with James going I think that takes our squad down to 24.
A few of these are still likely to go out on loan or move on.
Sean Mackie is also probably some way away from being fit to play.
LeithMike
19-07-2021, 07:11 PM
The hits just keep on coming.
What do you wanna talk about now, my favourite colour?
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147lothian
19-07-2021, 08:19 PM
Its not unusual for players to move on.
Leitherhibs
19-07-2021, 08:34 PM
Why why why did we let Tom James leave?
bigwheel
19-07-2021, 08:38 PM
Why why why did we let Tom James leave?
To fund bringing Vela back !
Ringothedog
19-07-2021, 09:45 PM
Think that’s him gone from Hibs now?
Did we get a fee?
Unseen work
19-07-2021, 10:03 PM
James and Mallan out free's up quite a bit of money.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Mackie, Gullan or Hallberg leave either never mind the ones likely go get us big fee's.
Hopefully McCart is one we get over the line. I saw a journalist on Twitter expects us to go back with an improved offer.
04Sauzee
19-07-2021, 10:14 PM
James and Mallan out free's up quite a bit of money.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Mackie, Gullan or Hallberg leave either never mind the ones likely go get us big fee's.
Hopefully McCart is one we get over the line. I saw a journalist on Twitter expects us to go back with an improved offer.
Eric Nicolson from the courier?
He also says Rotherham are set to bid again for Rooney. Can't imagine they would want to loose both players this window. Wonder what Hibs bid will be.
Haymaker
20-07-2021, 03:18 AM
:hyper
My old man
20-07-2021, 06:24 AM
:hyper
I agree 😜
GG2TH
Brightside
20-07-2021, 06:35 AM
James and Mallan out free's up quite a bit of money.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Mackie, Gullan or Hallberg leave either never mind the ones likely go get us big fee's.
Hopefully McCart is one we get over the line. I saw a journalist on Twitter expects us to go back with an improved offer.
We won’t be selling Mackie until he’s fit, which is clearly some way away.
Heisenberg
20-07-2021, 06:36 AM
Chris Cadden out for up to 8 weeks with a thigh injury. Not ideal and leaves us short of cover on the right side again.
Peevemor
20-07-2021, 06:44 AM
Chris Cadden out for up to 8 weeks with a thigh injury. Not ideal and leaves us short of cover on the right side again.
It makes you wonder if he'll ever manage a decent run of games for us. :confused:
calumhibee1
20-07-2021, 06:44 AM
Chris Cadden out for up to 8 weeks with a thigh injury. Not ideal and leaves us short of cover on the right side again.
He’s starting to become a bit of a concern tbh.
Iain G
20-07-2021, 06:46 AM
Chris Cadden out for up to 8 weeks with a thigh injury. Not ideal and leaves us short of cover on the right side again.
That's dissapointing for him and for Hibs, we need al our players fit and raring to go and he gives us a lot of options down that right hand side.
Souter96Mac
20-07-2021, 06:50 AM
Chris Cadden out for up to 8 weeks with a thigh injury. Not ideal and leaves us short of cover on the right side again.
That's a blow. Really wanted to see how we looked with him playing right back.
I wonder if that'll prompt us to move for Odoffin, as he can cover there
BILLYHIBS
20-07-2021, 06:53 AM
File under ‘I’ for injury prone
Nae good to us
Next!
bigwheel
20-07-2021, 07:03 AM
Two year extension to contract signed for Jack Ross…just announced ….
Callum_62
20-07-2021, 07:06 AM
Two year extension to contract signed for Jack Ross…just announced ….Great news
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Big_Franck
20-07-2021, 07:09 AM
Two year extension to contract signed for Jack Ross…just announced ….
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/ross-rewarded-with-new-two-year-deal
Big_Franck
20-07-2021, 07:09 AM
The article doesn't state when this new contract ends. Does anyone know when his deal was due to finish?
bingo70
20-07-2021, 07:11 AM
Great news
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Don’t really agree.
Contracts for managers don’t really count for much anyway. If someone wants him you still don’t get much compensation and if we need to sack him it’ll just cost us more.
He was never going anywhere anyway in terms of being sacked.
How’s that for a glass half empty viewpoint 😂
bigwheel
20-07-2021, 07:11 AM
The article doesn't state when this new contract ends. Does anyone know when his deal was due to finish?
Original deal was until 2022. So guessing this is now 2024
Allant1981
20-07-2021, 07:12 AM
Original deal was until 2022. So guessing this is now 2024
Yip new deal is until 2024
Callum_62
20-07-2021, 07:12 AM
Don’t really agree.
Contracts for managers don’t really count for much anyway. If someone wants him you still don’t get much compensation and if we need to sack him it’ll just cost us more.
He was never going anywhere anyway in terms of being sacked.
How’s that for a glass half empty viewpoint [emoji23]A hibs.net classic
Wait until we don't win on Thursday
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bigwheel
20-07-2021, 07:13 AM
Don’t really agree.
Contracts for managers don’t really count for much anyway. If someone wants him you still don’t get much compensation and if we need to sack him it’ll just cost us more.
He was never going anywhere anyway in terms of being sacked.
How’s that for a glass half empty viewpoint [emoji23]
You can say that about any contract …of course it’s a positive announcement
It tells me the club and him are both committed to the journey they are on - so great news from my perspective
Callum_62
20-07-2021, 07:13 AM
The article doesn't state when this new contract ends. Does anyone know when his deal was due to finish?Hibernian FC is today delighted to announce that Head Coach Jack Ross’ contract has been extended by two years until 2024.
Also tickets go on sale at 1000am today
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Stuart93
20-07-2021, 07:27 AM
I wonder if JR committing his future here means talks with Ron about bringing more in have also went well
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