Summer 2021-22 transfer thread

[Billy Whizz]

Is Kerr a left or right centre half

[J-C]

Is Kerr a left or right centre half

Transfer Market has him as a right footer.

[Iggy Pope]

Hibs make St Johnstone captain Jason Kerr summer transfer target

https://www.nottheoldfirm.com/news/hibs-make-st-johnstone-captain-jason-kerr-summer-transfer-target/

Good Hibby in to the bargain.

[Brightside]

Is Kerr a left or right centre half

He’s right footed Billy. Their other CH is just as good imo. I’d happily take both.

[ancient hibee]

Glad to see we’re behaving like a proper big club and leaking the Kerr story to the Daily Mail just before their semi final.

[Since452]

Would be delighted with that if we sell Porteous

[calumhibee1]

I’d be lying if I said I know much about Kerr but he seems to be very highly rated.

If we could go out and get guys like Kerr and Campbell on long term deals then we’d be so well positioned to really take advantage of the transitions going on at Aberdeen and Hearts (although with them I’m not sure when it stops being a transition and they’re just absolutely *****.. I think that’s past actually :greengrin).

I’d love to see us go out and spend £1m or so in fees on a few players if we win the cup. Go out and get guys like Hendry, Campbell, Jordan Jones, possibly even Shankland. The opportunity for growth would be absolutely huge.

If we sell a few of this seasons squad then I’d be looking for that to be even larger.

[Unseen work]

Jason Kerr would be a fantastic addition.

Especially for 300k or so if we were to sell Porteous for 2 million or so.

I personally don’t want to see us spending 1 million or so on players though, don’t think we’re at that level yet and we can get players to improve us without paying that much.

I also think the level of pressure that player would be under would be ridiculous and to some would never justify the fee paid.

Some are unhappy about the players we’ve got for free!

[CMurdoch]

Jason Kerr would be a fantastic addition.

Especially for 300k or so if we were to sell Porteous for 2 million or so.

I personally don’t want to see us spending 1 million or so on players though, don’t think we’re at that level yet and we can get players to improve us without paying that much.

I also think the level of pressure that player would be under would be ridiculous and to some would never justify the fee paid.

Some are unhappy about the players we’ve got for free!

I would be happy if Hibs reach the stage where we are willing to pay development fees for Scottish players like Campbell this season.
The development fee for Campbell is reckoned to be £440k. What you get for that is a guy for your first team and someone that you will almost certainly make a profit on. There is very little risk of getting burn't
Generally these guys are players their clubs would like to keep but have outgrown them. Lewis Ferguson was a previous example.

[ian cruise]

Stevie Mallan - Wanted a loan for more regular football. Can’t see that changing in summer.


I actually suspect Mallan will be back with us next season and slightly happier to play a bit part. There will be more games meaning more opportunities for him and I'm not sure the loan move has been brilliant so he's maybe seen the grass isn't greener on the other side.

I'd be happy to have him back and an option on the bench or for some of these games when we need a bit of a threat from midfield.

[AgentDaleCooper]

I actually suspect Mallan will be back with us next season and slightly happier to play a bit part. There will be more games meaning more opportunities for him and I'm not sure the loan move has been brilliant so he's maybe seen the grass isn't greener on the other side.

I'd be happy to have him back and an option on the bench or for some of these games when we need a bit of a threat from midfield.
Mallan might actually be more of an asset in europe, depending on the opposition.

[Dmas]

I actually suspect Mallan will be back with us next season and slightly happier to play a bit part. There will be more games meaning more opportunities for him and I'm not sure the loan move has been brilliant so he's maybe seen the grass isn't greener on the other side.

I'd be happy to have him back and an option on the bench or for some of these games when we need a bit of a threat from midfield.

I don’t think Mallan will be around next season, we lose too much in midfield playing him and he’s definitely not suited to the 3 in the middle JR has been playing for the majority of the season, unfortunately I think the same is true about Scott Allan, I’d love to get a fit and firing Allan in the team but with a 3 in the middle and 2 strikers I just can’t see how he fits in.

[Callum_62]

I don't think we have missed Mallan at all

Interesting listening to the open goal podcast a few weeks ago and Halliday commenting now how hibs have legs in the middle of the park which we lacked before

All 3 commented on Newell but Halliday picked out Irvine

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[Iain G]

I don't think we have missed Mallan at all

Interesting listening to the oorn goal podcast a few weeks ago and Halliday commenting now how hibs have legs in the middle of the park which we lacked before

All 3 commented on Newell but Halliday picked out Irvine

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If we are to keep developing and challenging regularly we need better than Mallan as part of our options.

[Is It On....]

Well, not really. There were bids for Porto and Nisbet in January and there have been persistent rumours about Doig going. I don’t think anyone wants to see these players transferred. In fact every post seems to say that they should stay at Hibs and progress their careers.

Out of curiosity which rumour about Nisbet and what makes that more solid than any of the others?

The Nisbet Brentford rumour carries more weight for me as he is exactly the type of player they go for (assuming the Moneyball data stacks up) - relatively unheralded, young and with a large potential sell on + a potential replacement for Toney if he leaves in the summer. I suppose for them it really depends on whether they get promoted via the playoffs.

[Spudster]

Hearing we are in for Clark Robertson. Central defender formerly of Aberdeen and Blackpool now at Rotheram.

[Brightside]

Hearing we are in for Clark Robertson. Central defender formerly of Aberdeen and Blackpool now at Rotheram.

Aberdeen are in for him.

[SHODAN]

Hearing we are in for Clark Robertson. Central defender formerly of Aberdeen and Blackpool now at Rotheram.

We were in for him a while back when Aberdeen released him.

[04Sauzee]

Hearing we are in for Clark Robertson. Central defender formerly of Aberdeen and Blackpool now at Rotheram.

One guy on the Aberdeen forums was saying Aberdeen were in for him. I have absolutely no recollection of this guy playing for Aberdeen previously but Aberdeen fans don't seem to keen.

[Spudster]

He was only 21 when he left Aberdeen. Hearts also in for him....at 6'2" that's no surprise!

[JimBHibees]

Hearing we are in for Clark Robertson. Central defender formerly of Aberdeen and Blackpool now at Rotheram.

Did he used to play for Forest?

[Unseen work]

He wasn’t very highly thought of at Aberdeen first time round by the fans but in fairness he was playing left back. Think the club had high hopes for him though.

Since moving dow south I think he’s been a good, reliable defender.

Left footed so would be completion for Hanlon.

[Greenbeard]

If we are looking to strengthen options on the left, esp if Doig goes, what do folk think of Ilkay Durmus? Don't know enough about him to judge but I thought he showed some decent touches in the semi out left and covering back in defence. Contract up end of May. Great name if nothing else!

[Nevi_SOL]

If we are looking to strengthen options on the left, esp if Doig goes, what do folk think of Ilkay Durmus? Don't know enough about him to judge but I thought he showed some decent touches in the semi out left and covering back in defence. Contract up end of May. Great name if nothing else!

I was thinking this whilst watching the game yesterday, fits JR system as he can play more than one position as well

[GloryGlory]

If we are looking to strengthen options on the left, esp if Doig goes, what do folk think of Ilkay Durmus? Don't know enough about him to judge but I thought he showed some decent touches in the semi out left and covering back in defence. Contract up end of May. Great name if nothing else!

I thought Daniel Mackay, just signed from ICT, is a left-sided player?

[badabing67]

If we are looking to strengthen options on the left, esp if Doig goes, what do folk think of Ilkay Durmus? Don't know enough about him to judge but I thought he showed some decent touches in the semi out left and covering back in defence. Contract up end of May. Great name if nothing else!

We still have Sean Mackie who i think will do a good job for us there if he can get rid of his injury issues.... What ever the issue is does anyone whats wrong with him.

[CMurdoch]

If we are looking to strengthen options on the left, esp if Doig goes, what do folk think of Ilkay Durmus? Don't know enough about him to judge but I thought he showed some decent touches in the semi out left and covering back in defence. Contract up end of May. Great name if nothing else!

IMO Durmus is far to inconsistent in his play and in his shooting to be of interest to Hibs
He predominately played up front when he arrived at St Mirren and was no tracky backy.
It may be that Goodwin is trying to develop the defensive side of his game which would make him a much more useful player.

[CMurdoch]

Aberdeen are in for him.

I read that last week.
Brown and Gallagher in.
Devlin offered short term extension and trying to bring Robertson in.

[Robbo6-2]

Any player we bring will be realistically offered to Aberdeen or Hearts as well.

All 3 are shopping in similar markets and all agents do is try and drum up as much interest in their client as they can.

[CMurdoch]

We still have Sean Mackie who i think will do a good job for us there if he can get rid of his injury issues.... What ever the issue is does anyone whats wrong with him.

I remember reading it was something minor like a thigh strain but that was many months ago.
Then we had the almost recovered chat but again that was back in March
Been out for 5 months now so I can't help but think that it is connected to his bad injury from last season.
When he played earlier this season he looked the part, big strong and athletic.
There was no big injury on the pitch , we simply didn't see him play again.
At 22 the guy really needs a break to go his way.

[neil7908]

IMO Durmus is far to inconsistent in his play and in his shooting to be of interest to Hibs
He predominately played up front when he arrived at St Mirren and was no tracky backy.
It may be that Goodwin is trying to develop the defensive side of his game which would make him a much more useful player.

I've quite liked the look of him when I've seen him. With Mackay coming in and Murphy having another year on it doesn't seem like a key position but I think he'd be a decent squad player with the potential to develop.

[badabing67]

I remember reading it was something minor like a thigh strain but that was many months ago.
Then we had the almost recovered chat but again that was back in March
Been out for 5 months now so I can't help but think that it is connected to his bad injury from last season.
When he played earlier this season he looked the part, big strong and athletic.
There was no big injury on the pitch , we simply didn't see him play again.
At 22 the guy really needs a break to go his way.

I agree, he really does need to catch a break and hopefully the medical team are just being over cautious about his recovery. I really hope he can make the preseason and get his career back on track, I think he has a lot to offer.

[04Sauzee]

Allan Campbell confirmed as leaving Motherwell at the end of the season. Looking at 500k compensation. I know Hibs have been linked with him in the past. Hasn't impressed me as much this season but he hasn't had Turnbull playing beside him.
Think he's most likely going to go down south.

[Brightside]

Any player we bring will be realistically offered to Aberdeen or Hearts as well.

All 3 are shopping in similar markets and all agents do is try and drum up as much interest in their client as they can.

Hearts can't afford the players we are looking at.

[Peevemor]

Hearts can't afford the players we are looking at.

When has that ever stopped them?

[Kato]

When has that ever stopped them?Funny and true.

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[18Craig75]

Allan Campbell confirmed as leaving Motherwell at the end of the season. Looking at 500k compensation. I know Hibs have been linked with him in the past. Hasn't impressed me as much this season but he hasn't had Turnbull playing beside him.
Think he's most likely going to go down south.

That could put a few teams off him. I wonder if we’d be able to offer Drey Wright or Mallan as part of a deal.

Not actually convinced we need him if we tie Irvine down.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

That could put a few teams off him. I wonder if we’d be able to offer Drey Wright or Mallan as part of a deal.

Not actually convinced we need him if we tie Irvine down.

We will need a bigger squad if we secure Europe till December.

Recruits in Defence, Midfield, and Attack needed.

[Andy74]

Allan Campbell confirmed as leaving Motherwell at the end of the season. Looking at 500k compensation. I know Hibs have been linked with him in the past. Hasn't impressed me as much this season but he hasn't had Turnbull playing beside him.
Think he's most likely going to go down south.

Haven’t seen anything from him that would be worth that sort of fee. I’m sure we could strengthen the same area for less.

[jeffers]

Haven’t seen anything from him that would be worth that sort of fee. I’m sure we could strengthen the same area for less.

Campbell has impressed me, thought he was excellent in the 0-0 at ER this season, but I agree, unless we can structure a deal with future sell ons or offering players as part of it I’m not sure I’d be wanting to spend £500k on him.

[Eyrie]

Right now our central midfield for next season is Allan, Gogic, Newell, Hallberg and Magennis. McGinn is out of contract, I'd be surprised if Mallan or Murray are still here, and we want to retain Irvine.

I could see it being Irvine or Campbell for one spot, unless either Hallberg or Allan leaves.

[SMAXXA]

Right now our central midfield for next season is Allan, Gogic, Newell, Hallberg and Magennis. McGinn is out of contract, I'd be surprised if Mallan or Murray are still here, and we want to retain Irvine.

I could see it being Irvine or Campbell for one spot, unless either Hallberg or Allan leaves.

I can see Murray and Gullan leaving and Hallberg is a cert

[Dr What If?]

Allan Campbell confirmed as leaving Motherwell at the end of the season. Looking at 500k compensation. I know Hibs have been linked with him in the past. Hasn't impressed me as much this season but he hasn't had Turnbull playing beside him.
Think he's most likely going to go down south.
Often wondered what happens in these situations, what if no one wants to pay the compensation? Is he not able to play for anyone?

[hibbysam]

Often wondered what happens in these situations, what if no one wants to pay the compensation? Is he not able to play for anyone?

If a club wants to sign him, but doesn’t want to pay the money it goes to tribunal who decide how much is paid. But in a nutshell, aye, if they don’t want to pay it then he doesn’t sign for anyone. Think the rules are different for going abroad etc.

[Dr What If?]

If a club wants to sign him, but doesn’t want to pay the money it goes to tribunal who decide how much is paid. But in a nutshell, aye, if they don’t want to pay it then he doesn’t sign for anyone. Think the rules are different for going abroad etc.
Cheers Sam, lad must be pretty sure there's a club in the wings then.

[Unseen work]

If we can get Allan Campbell for 500k and Jason Kerr for 300k as reported then I’d say do it.

Especially when you think the amount of money and loss of quality were likely to have this season.

With Campbell I’d be surprised if we paid the 500k development fee, instead maybe agree a cut deal price with Motherwell but make it a lot more beneficial for them with add ons and a sell on %.

Kerr would be a direct replacement for Porteous and be 1/4 of the price were likely to receive. He’s more experienced, older, won cups and is their captain, although this season has played on the right of a back 3 instead of centre. We’d have him for a couple of years and sell him for profit I have no doubt.

Campbell is a class act for me and I don’t think some will realise how good he is until he’s in your team. Again we’d make our money back and then some.

Those 2 along with Mackay would be the start of a brilliant transfer window. Add in Allan returning and it would be very very positive.

Finishing 3rd and winning the Scottish Cup would be the real game changer though as it would guarantee European football until December. A lot of players that would ordinarily be outwith our budget or have aspirations of going to England would come to us for that alone.

Guys like Kerr, Campbell, Irvine etc would all of a sudden see us as a more attractive team than your lower end championship/ top end league 1 teams.

The main worry will be replacing the goals and assists of Nisbet and Boyle if either were to leave.

[scotiaf]

I think we would be happy to spend the money if we sell anyone, the problem will be matching wages in English clubs come in making offers for any of them.

[calumhibee1]

I see Marcianos Mrs has said her goodbyes to Edinburgh on Instagram.. away back to Israel.

Whether that’s a permanent thing or not I suppose would remain unknown but it could be an indication as to where he’s going.

[Callum_62]

I see Marcianos Mrs has said her goodbyes to Edinburgh on Instagram.. away back to Israel.

Whether that’s a permanent thing or not I suppose would remain unknown but it could be an indication as to where he’s going.Gotta imagine that's where he is headed

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[Iain G]

I see Marcianos Mrs has said her goodbyes to Edinburgh on Instagram.. away back to Israel.

Whether that’s a permanent thing or not I suppose would remain unknown but it could be an indication as to where he’s going.

Not a very safe looking place to be going just now with a young family.

[Juniper Greens]

Often wondered what happens in these situations, what if no one wants to pay the compensation? Is he not able to play for anyone?

The 500k is what a tribunal would set. If no one wants to pay that, they could offer Motherwell a differently structured deal. Alternatively, the player could just end up at Motherwell until they turn 24. I think sibbald got stuck at Falkirk for that reason?

[calumhibee1]

The 500k is what a tribunal would set. If no one wants to pay that, they could offer Motherwell a differently structured deal. Alternatively, the player could just end up at Motherwell until they turn 24. I think sibbald got stuck at Falkirk for that reason?

Yup that is why Sibbald never left :agree:

[Bangkok Hibby]

Not a very safe looking place to be going just now with a young family.

Sure they can afford to stay well away from trouble

[Viva_Palmeiras]

I see Marcianos Mrs has said her goodbyes to Edinburgh on Instagram.. away back to Israel.

Whether that’s a permanent thing or not I suppose would remain unknown but it could be an indication as to where he’s going.

what a time to head back there! I wish them all the best. Always been respectful and embraced our club and given great service. I’m guessing had Lenny remained somehow at Celtic he’d be heading along the M8 I think he’s deserved to give things a shot elsewhere. What he settles for remains to be seen...

[Since452]

I see Marcianos Mrs has said her goodbyes to Edinburgh on Instagram.. away back to Israel.

Whether that’s a permanent thing or not I suppose would remain unknown but it could be an indication as to where he’s going.

No wonder he looked so miserable on Saturday :wink:

[Iain G]

Sure they can afford to stay well away from trouble

It's escalating pretty quickly at the moment!

[bigwheel]

It's escalating pretty quickly at the moment!

Israel in regularly in conflict...I’ve been there a few times, and had sirens going off as missies have been fired. By and large the cities are very safe and welcoming. Tel Aviv for example is a lovely beach based modern city..Jerusalem old town obviously quite different....


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[Bangkok Hibby]

Israel in regularly in conflict...I’ve been there a few times, and had sirens going off as missies have been fired. By and large the cities are very safe and welcoming. Tel Aviv for example is a lovely beach based modern city..Jerusalem old town obviously quite different....


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Tel Aviv been on my list of places to go for years. I'll get there one day.

[Sammy7nil]

We will need a bigger squad if we secure Europe till December.

Recruits in Defence, Midfield, and Attack needed.

If we qualify for the groups stage of the Europa League it may convince a few players to hang around until next year or maybe The Jan window ?

[Ozyhibby]

That could put a few teams off him. I wonder if we’d be able to offer Drey Wright or Mallan as part of a deal.

Not actually convinced we need him if we tie Irvine down.

Wright and Mallan have no transfer value.


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[Brightside]

Weight and Mallan have no transfer value.


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Well of course they do. You may not like them as players but every player has a value in a transfer. Especially when they are potentially going to a club like Motherwell.

[Aldo]

Well of course they do. You may not like them as players but every player has a value in a transfer. Especially when they are potentially going to a club like Motherwell.

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[MrRobot]

Well of course they do. You may not like them as players but every player has a value in a transfer. Especially when they are potentially going to a club like Motherwell.

Is that just continuing on from what the poster said or an actual possibility?
If Motherwell wanted the pair and it got us Campbell, i’d be pretty happy with that.

[CMurdoch]

Wright and Mallan have no transfer value.


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The biggest issue with Mallan, and Allan for that matter, is that a Scottish teams won't want to take on their high wages for the remaining year of their contracts.
Much will depend on whether we win the Scottish Cup and will thus be playing twice a week until Christmas so the desire to lose squad players will diminish for the rest of the year.

[18Craig75]

Tel Aviv been on my list of places to go for years. I'll get there one day.

It’s great, a really nice & modern city. A good jump of place to the Dead Sea, Jerusalem, Sea of Galilee etc.

[badabing67]

Eddie Howe expected to be announced next week at Celtic. I really hope he is going to release Sparky. There should be news on his contract either way soon....

[Aldo]

Reagan Hendry has been pretty anonymous so far this evening for Raith!


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[SHODAN]

That's Mackay completed his move now.

[Since90+2]

Declan Gallagher has signed a pre contract with Aberdeen.

[Brightside]

Is that just continuing on from what the poster said or an actual possibility?
If Motherwell wanted the pair and it got us Campbell, i’d be pretty happy with that.

Just continuing on the chat. But I think they’d be good bargaining chips.

[Stuart93]

Stoke and other English teams interested in Campbell

Probably ends any speculation that he may end up at us if that’s the case

[Since90+2]

Campbell will only stay in Scotland if he's going to Celtic or Rangers.

He's nearly 23 and has played 160 games in Scotland so he'll be looking for a new challenge,and a higher wage than anyone outside the old firm, can offer.

[badabing67]

Campbell will only stay in Scotland if he's going to Celtic or Rangers.

He's nearly 23 and has played 160 games in Scotland so he'll be looking for a new challenge, and a higher wage than anyone outside the old firm, can offer.

Have always thought he would be out of our reach, but he would know if he came to us we could progress his career, we have a track record, I think he probably has something lined so we just need to wait and see what. But to be honest i really didn't expect Jackson Irvine to turn up, and when he did, I thought it would be to much of an ask of the club to get him on an extended contract. So I was pleasantly surprised to find he was in talks. I think we could be just one big win away from securing him even if it is for 1 or 2 seasons. So you never know. But if we can't get Campbell I think we should try and get Jamie McGrath from StM or possibly Jeando Fuch's from DD Utd. Ali McCann's contract would be an issue for us imo.

[Since452]

Stoke and other English teams interested in Campbell

Probably ends any speculation that he may end up at us if that’s the case

Unless he fancies a crack at Europe

[04Sauzee]

Louis Moult available.
Probably would have taken him 12-18 months ago.
Had a few injuries

[Stuart93]

Unless he fancies a crack at Europe

Hopefully. Money usually talks though and he’d be offered a lot more down there

[Since452]

Louis Moult available.
Probably would have taken him 12-18 months ago.
Had a few injuries

For some reason i think he'll end up at Hearts and be absolute dug*****

[Gmack7]

For some reason i think he'll end up at Hearts and be absolute dug*****

Stick on for them, there recruitment guy lilly savage will be all over him after having him at Preston

[brog]

I think both the Motherwell front men, Long & Cole,are out of contract next month. I think either could do a decent job, certainly as back up, given our lack of strikers & the potential for Nisbet to leave.

[CapitalGreen]

Reagan Hendry has been pretty anonymous so far this evening for Raith!


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Hendry has been nominated alongside Liam Boyce, Craig Gordon and Charlie Adam for Championship POTY.

[Aldo]

Hendry has been nominated alongside Liam Boyce, Craig Gordon and Charlie Adam for Championship POTY.

Seen that. He’s had a good season but like I say did not a lot last night!


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[CMurdoch]

I think both the Motherwell front men, Long & Cole,are out of contract next month. I think either could do a decent job, certainly as back up, given our lack of strikers & the potential for Nisbet to leave.

Cole has been playing well and scored another beauty last night.
Long has been poor in his second Motherwell spell after being impressive in his first.

[CMurdoch]

Hendry has been nominated alongside Liam Boyce, Craig Gordon and Charlie Adam for Championship POTY.

Quarterback Adam was very good last night.
His killer passes were the difference between the teams.

[04Sauzee]

Seen that. He’s had a good season but like I say did not a lot last night!


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Recorded the game and watched it back after the Hibs game, thought he looked decent probably until the 2nd goal went in,after that Raith kinda fell apart.

[CMurdoch]

Recorded the game and watched it back after the Hibs game, thought he looked decent probably until the 2nd goal went in,after that Raith kinda fell apart.

Snap. Then fired on Sportscene followed by MOTD.
No Scottish football tonight or Friday :hyper

[Souter96Mac]

I'd take Cole from Motherwell, especially as a backup option from the bench. Could do a lot worse

[Eyrie]

Worth remembering that we'll be playing twice a week until Christmas if we win the Cup, so a "back up" will still get several starts and plenty of game time.

Agree that Cole would be a good addition as the third striker unless Ross is confident Gullan can be that man.

[Jones28]

I'd take Cole from Motherwell, especially as a backup option from the bench. Could do a lot worse

He’s a decent player.

He was the main man for my Grimsby Town team on fifa 20.

[brog]

Cole has been playing well and scored another beauty last night.
Long has been poor in his second Motherwell spell after being impressive in his first.

Agreed but Long was excellent last night & he started ahead of Cole.

[CMurdoch]

Agreed but Long was excellent last night & he started ahead of Cole.

Not sure what has been wrong with Long this time around.
I only saw the highlights of that game last night. I liked the strip they wore and the Cole goal. To be fair I was beginning to wane by then after watching the Hibs game and then the whole of the RR v Dundee game so may have missed Long although I do remember seeing him!.

[Unseen work]

Would 100% take Cole as one of 3 strikers.

Him, Doidge and whoever replaces Nisbet would be fantastic.

If we win the Scottish cup we’ll need to make full use of the squad and it will be really stretched.

Don’t rate Long though.

Regan Hendry is a really good player but I’m not sure he’s what we need. He’s a very good technical player but I’m not sure how interested he is when the opposition have the ball.

[Unseen work]

Celtic after Nisbet and Hickey https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7108061/celtic-summer-transfer-swoops-nisbet-hickey/

[SaulGoodman]

Celtic after Nisbet and Hickey https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7108061/celtic-summer-transfer-swoops-nisbet-hickey/

£5 million please.

[Mon Dieu4]

Celtic after Nisbet and Hickey https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7108061/celtic-summer-transfer-swoops-nisbet-hickey/

Amazing that even when they have no manager and both teams have nothing to play for this weekend they still come out with stuff like this, force of habit must be hard to break :faf:

[Stuart93]

£5 million please.

Yep £5m or **** off.

They know not to try low ball us anymore

Jambos will be right on top of that regarding his made up clause regarding Celtic

[Unseen work]

If I was Nisbet and the Brentford speculation has anything to it I’d be wanting to go there.

They have a really good rep of signing strikers, them doing well and then getting another big money move.

[bigwheel]

Celtic after Nisbet and Hickey https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7108061/celtic-summer-transfer-swoops-nisbet-hickey/

A nothing story...of course these players will be on a potential recruitment list at Celtic and many other clubs....


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[CMurdoch]

A nothing story...of course these players will be on a potential recruitment list at Celtic and many other clubs....


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Yip, along with hunners of other players

[04Sauzee]

Aberdeen linked with Jay Emanuel Thomas (JET) in the Sun.

[CapitalGreen]

A nothing story...of course these players will be on a potential recruitment list at Celtic and many other clubs....


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Exactly. When the minutes were leaked from a Celtic recruitment meeting a few years back there were 10+ targets listed and they signed none of them. Scouts and the Head of Football will be preparing long lists of potential targets for any incoming potential manager - by default those will include the best Scottish talent in the league.

[Stuart93]

Aberdeen linked with Jay Emanuel Thomas (JET) in the Sun.

Decent player but thought they’d be going for better

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Aberdeen linked with Jay Emanuel Thomas (JET) in the Sun.

He’s 53 is he not ;)

are they building a team of dads army?

[bingo70]

Decent player but thought they’d be going for better

Personally think he’s *****.

[Torto7]

So according to the **** Hickey is worth 4million and Nisbet 3mill. I'd love to know why. They then go on to say we rejected 3.1 from Birmingham. So according to their logic he's lost value since Jan even though he's made the Scotland squad since then.

I'm sure the smellies are interested but through their own arrogance and contempt for other teams we'll see a 2.5 million or so bid and they'll lose out on him to Brentford or the like. Griffiths might be resigned and used as leverage on loan, we'll rightfully turn down the offer and they'll send him on loan to Aberdeen to spite use.

My Mrs is a Celtic fan, on the podcast thing she was watching they discussed potential signings and the chat got onto Josh Doig. My ears perked up at this. They decided Doig was worth a million but they'd have to be careful as Hibs are difficult to deal with. F@nnies.

[04Sauzee]

He’s 53 is he not ;)

are they building a team of dads army?

Does seem to be a strange one if McCormack has promised to spend big on goalscorers.
That would be Brown, Gallagher and Jet in which wouldn't worry me much.

[jacomo]

Decent player but thought they’d be going for better


I thought we were giddy about the thought of signing him?

He’s probably better than Kamberi.

[Stuart93]

I thought we were giddy about the thought of signing him?

He’s probably better than Kamberi.

Aye probably, he’s a decent player but nothing more. They don’t score enough goals and not sure JET would fix that for them. I’d maybe sign him as a backup but they need a first choice.

[ekhibee]

I like young McPherson at St Mirren, he's got a bit of dig and a good shot on him, he'd be an excellent signing for the future IMO.

[Magpie]

Expect Aberdeen to take one or two signings on loan from Celtic next season.

[Brightside]

Personally think he’s *****.

He’s average. Was 4th on our list for the last 6 years or so.

[Brightside]

So according to the **** Hickey is worth 4million and Nisbet 3mill. I'd love to know why. They then go on to say we rejected 3.1 from Birmingham. So according to their logic he's lost value since Jan even though he's made the Scotland squad since then.

I'm sure the smellies are interested but through their own arrogance and contempt for other teams we'll see a 2.5 million or so bid and they'll lose out on him to Brentford or the like. Griffiths might be resigned and used as leverage on loan, we'll rightfully turn down the offer and they'll send him on loan to Aberdeen to spite use.

My Mrs is a Celtic fan, on the podcast thing she was watching they discussed potential signings and the chat got onto Josh Doig. My ears perked up at this. They decided Doig was worth a million but they'd have to be careful as Hibs are difficult to deal with. F@nnies.

Ignore the paper talk.

[Oscar T Grouch]

So according to the **** Hickey is worth 4million and Nisbet 3mill. I'd love to know why. They then go on to say we rejected 3.1 from Birmingham. So according to their logic he's lost value since Jan even though he's made the Scotland squad since then.

I'm sure the smellies are interested but through their own arrogance and contempt for other teams we'll see a 2.5 million or so bid and they'll lose out on him to Brentford or the like. Griffiths might be resigned and used as leverage on loan, we'll rightfully turn down the offer and they'll send him on loan to Aberdeen to spite use.

My Mrs is a Celtic fan, on the podcast thing she was watching they discussed potential signings and the chat got onto Josh Doig. My ears perked up at this. They decided Doig was worth a million but they'd have to be careful as Hibs are difficult to deal with. F@nnies.

For “Difficult to deal with” read, “Wants the true value of their player!”

[JimBHibees]

I think both the Motherwell front men, Long & Cole,are out of contract next month. I think either could do a decent job, certainly as back up, given our lack of strikers & the potential for Nisbet to leave.

Dont rate Long seems very up and down however been impressed with Devante Cole.

[Greenbeard]

I thought we were giddy about the thought of signing him?

He’s probably better than Kamberi.
Yes but where would he be on what would be a loooooong list of such players?

[B.H.F.C]

With the type of player we’re looking to sign and the type of player Aberdeen are looking to sign, we might not need to worry about them hijacking any deals at the last minute this year.

[calumhibee1]

Lewis Moult leaves PNE.

Don’t want him at Hibs tbh but I wonder if we’ll be looking?

[Stuart93]

Lewis Moult leaves PNE.

Don’t want him at Hibs tbh but I wonder if we’ll be looking?

I’d probably take him as back up but I’d imagine he’ll be commanding a wage higher than what we could afford for a back up

He’ll end up signing for hearts

Struggled badly with injuries so he’s more their type

[Billy Whizz]

I’d probably take him as back up but I’d imagine he’ll be commanding a wage higher than what we could afford for a back up

He’ll end up signing for hearts

Struggled badly with injuries so he’s more their type

Hearts are saying they are running with a leaner/younger squad next season

[nonshinyfinish]

Hearts are saying they are running with an even taller/humptier squad next season

Fixed that for you.

[Jones28]

Fixed that for you.


:faf:

[Billy Whizz]

Fixed that for you.

How do you fix other people’s posts😀

[Jones28]

How do you spell chlamydia?😀

Like that.

[lord bunberry]

Dont rate Long seems very up and down however been impressed with Devante Cole.
How old is Cole? I’ve been quite impressed with him as well.

edit I checked and he’s 26. Wouldn’t be the worst signing.

[scoopyboy]

So according to the **** Hickey is worth 4million and Nisbet 3mill. I'd love to know why. They then go on to say we rejected 3.1 from Birmingham. So according to their logic he's lost value since Jan even though he's made the Scotland squad since then.

I'm sure the smellies are interested but through their own arrogance and contempt for other teams we'll see a 2.5 million or so bid and they'll lose out on him to Brentford or the like. Griffiths might be resigned and used as leverage on loan, we'll rightfully turn down the offer and they'll send him on loan to Aberdeen to spite use.

My Mrs is a Celtic fan, on the podcast thing she was watching they discussed potential signings and the chat got onto Josh Doig. My ears perked up at this. They decided Doig was worth a million but they'd have to be careful as Hibs are difficult to deal with. F@nnies.

As far as I know Griffiths will be a free agent very shortly as Celtic didn't take up the years option by April 30th and have no intention of doing so.

[Smartie]

How old is Cole? I’ve been quite impressed with him as well.

edit I checked and he’s 26. Wouldn’t be the worst signing.

Based on what I’ve seen watching him he’d be an excellent signing.

I was surprised when I looked at his cv to date tbh, already mid twenties, already played for a few clubs without really setting the heather on fire anywhere and a bit journeymanish.

But he does look good to me. And he’s mid twenties, not mid thirties. Unlikely to be someone we buy and sell on but if we were to get a Paul McGinn like shift out of him then he’d be a magic signing.

[badabing67]

As far as I know Griffiths will be a free agent very shortly as Celtic didn't take up the years option by April 30th and have no intention of doing so.

How do you know about that. I thought their Leigh issue would be resolved when they had a manager in place to make a decision.

[JimBHibees]

Based on what I’ve seen watching him he’d be an excellent signing.

I was surprised when I looked at his cv to date tbh, already mid twenties, already played for a few clubs without really setting the heather on fire anywhere and a bit journeymanish.

But he does look good to me. And he’s mid twenties, not mid thirties. Unlikely to be someone we buy and sell on but if we were to get a Paul McGinn like shift out of him then he’d be a magic signing.

I think if Cole came to us and ripped it up he would increase in value pretty quickly given his background and high profile name down south.

[Stevie Reid]

I've been impressed with Cole recently also, though would he get paid more as someone further down the pecking order at Hibs vs being Motherwell's main man?

Whoever, made the point that if we get into a European group stage next season, the full squad will get a lot of game time did make a good point. But he may just fancy settling somewhere we're he'll be first choice for a while.

All hypothetical anyway, and certainly sounds like he'll be staying at Motherwell.

[lord bunberry]

Based on what I’ve seen watching him he’d be an excellent signing.

I was surprised when I looked at his cv to date tbh, already mid twenties, already played for a few clubs without really setting the heather on fire anywhere and a bit journeymanish.

But he does look good to me. And he’s mid twenties, not mid thirties. Unlikely to be someone we buy and sell on but if we were to get a Paul McGinn like shift out of him then he’d be a magic signing.
I agree, he looks a strong athletic striker that knows where the goal is. I can’t imagine he’s on big money at Motherwell so shouldn’t be too difficult to deal with.

[MWHIBBIES]

Cole and Cummings in as 3rd/4th choice strikers behind Nisbet and Doidge would be excellent.

[snedzuk]

As far as I know Griffiths will be a free agent very shortly as Celtic didn't take up the years option by April 30th and have no intention of doing so.

Cue haymaker...

[Oscar T Grouch]

How do you fix other people’s posts😀

Just quote the post and change it then.

[Haymaker]

Cue haymaker...

:hyper

[Slim Shady]

As far as I know Griffiths will be a free agent very shortly as Celtic didn't take up the years option by April 30th and have no intention of doing so.

True but he already has an offer from Scotland that we would get nowhere near and bigger offers down south from Championship.

[superfurryhibby]

True but he already has an offer from Scotland that we would get nowhere near and bigger offers down south from Championship.

An offer from a Scottish club other than Celtic?

[Heisenberg]

An offer from a Scottish club other than Celtic?

Aberdeen probably chucking silly money at him.

[superfurryhibby]

Aberdeen probably chucking silly money at him.

I very much doubt they will be able to pay more than Hibs, now or in the foreseeable future. I personally think the Sheep are going to struggle to compete with Hibs in this summer's transfer market.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Aberdeen probably chucking silly money at him.

Didn’t Glass pour cold water on that?


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[HoboHarry]

I very much doubt they will be able to pay more than Hibs, now or in the foreseeable future. I personally think the Sheep are going to struggle to compete with Hibs in this summer's transfer market.
I've been saying that for ages - I've no knowledge of their finances but don't they have a new stadium to pay for? Might be a tough few years ahead for them......

[jeffers]

I very much doubt they will be able to pay more than Hibs, now or in the foreseeable future. I personally think the Sheep are going to struggle to compete with Hibs in this summer's transfer market.

I thought Cormack made a point of saying Glass would be well backed, he even went as far as saying to a greater extent than JR would, although that must have been guesswork on his part.

[cameronw-hfc]

Didn’t Glass pour cold water on that?


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In fairness he also said Hedges wasn't in contention for starting due to the nature of his injury and we seen how he played that. Not a knock on him, just think he's the type that will say one thing to the media and do another.

[flash]

Let Aberdeen be the retirement home while we concentrate on exciting young talent.

[superfurryhibby]

I thought Cormack made a point of saying Glass would be well backed, he even went as far as saying to a greater extent than JR would, although that must have been guesswork on his part.


Sheep seem worried about future signings.


http://www.donstalk.co.uk/topic/9274-summer-rebuild/page/4/

[Tully]

Griffiths had one offer certainly not from Scotland

[04Sauzee]

Not a transfer but Just seen Josh Vella on twitter thanking everyone as he's won Player's player of the year and supporters player of the year with Shrewsbury.

[bingo70]

Not a transfer but Just seen Josh Vella on twitter thanking everyone as he's won Player's player of the year and supporters player of the year with Shrewsbury.

Saw that as well.

Is that League 1 in England? Must be an awful standard.

[PH91]

Lewis Moult leaves PNE.

Don’t want him at Hibs tbh but I wonder if we’ll be looking?

He was absolutely brilliant at motherwell, had a bit of everything.

I'd love us to sign that version of him but he hasn't played in 1.5-2 years and would likely want a very decent wage by our standards. I'd rake the risk but not so sure hibs would.

Nisbet out for 3M and griffiths and moult in for no transfer fee would do me fine.

[MWHIBBIES]

Saw that as well.

Is that League 1 in England? Must be an awful standard.

Most likely just suits him and he's happy. Leave the league dick measuring to the English.

[bingo70]

Most likely just suits him and he's happy. Leave the league dick measuring to the English.

Fair point.

[Torto7]

griffiths had one offer certainly not from scotland

mls?

[hibbysam]

Most likely just suits him and he's happy. Leave the league dick measuring to the English.

Exactly and seeing the improvement in Newell and Doidge after Hecky left, I’m willing to say he was rather unlucky rather than a brutally bad player.

[brog]

I like young McPherson at St Mirren, he's got a bit of dig and a good shot on him, he'd be an excellent signing for the future IMO.

I believe he's been on our radar for a while. Mind you not many St M players aren't. 😁Some goal on Wed.

[brog]

I thought Cormack made a point of saying Glass would be well backed, he even went as far as saying to a greater extent than JR would, although that must have been guesswork on his part.

IIRC he said that Sheep turnover was £3m higher than ours. That was a true statement but was comparing apples & oranges.

[C_hendo04]

Seen rumours linking us with loans moves for Greg Taylor and Nikola Katic next season. With it being unlikely that Stevenson will be leaving anytime soon it looks like Taylor would be a replacement for Doig, whereas with Katic although he is a good player I’d rather we’d look at other targets like Jason Kerr.

[CapitalGreen]

Seen rumours linking us with loans moves for Greg Taylor and Nikola Katic next season. With it being unlikely that Stevenson will be leaving anytime soon it looks like Taylor would be a replacement for Doig, whereas with Katic although he is a good player I’d rather we’d look at other targets like Jason Kerr.

Yeah neither of those are remotely close to happening.

[Tambo]

Oxford looking at James apparently it’s been reported.

[Greencore]

Don't want us dealing with any loan deals from sevco. Feels wrong.

[bingo70]

Don't want us dealing with any loan deals from sevco. Feels wrong.

See if you’re saying that when Murphy scores the winning goal next weekend 😉

[hibbysam]

Don't want us dealing with any loan deals from sevco. Feels wrong.

Couldn’t care less where loans came from if they improve us. Wasn’t turning my nose up at Stokes and Henderson back in the day for that reason.

[TheHibernator]

See if you’re saying that when Murphy scores the winning goal next weekend 😉

Tbf Murphy’s is a bit different because his contract was up at rangers at the end of the season so it’s basically like getting him on a free rather than a loan

[Greencore]

See if you’re saying that when Murphy scores the winning goal next weekend 😉

Good point 😂

[scoopyboy]

How do you know about that. I thought their Leigh issue would be resolved when they had a manager in place to make a decision.

He is out of contract at the end of this season although is contract may run until 31st May, after that he is unemployed.

Celtic could have triggered an option of another year but they had to do so by 30th April, they didn't. I thought they might have, even if only then they could sell him. It has been reported in several places about the 30th April deadline.

After Lennon left he was told he had no future at the club, John Kennedy doesn't like him and hardly plays him which has effectively put him out of contention for the Euros.

I have no idea if he has had offers or not, I just can't imagine him playing far away from this area. I think he would get homesick pretty quickly if he moved abroad.

[SMAXXA]

Don't want us dealing with any loan deals from sevco. Feels wrong.

Never get this attitude

[Unseen work]

Where are these rumours coming from?

Not a hope we’re getting Katic, he’ll be first pick once for for Rangers along with Goldson when they sell Hellander.

Greg Taylor I would be happy with as I think that’s an area Celtic will look to strengthen.

[Greencore]

Never get this attitude

Simple really, it benefits sevco more then it would benefit hibs, their fans hate us and we hate them and they would use it against us to boast. Don't want hibs giving any income to sevco when it helps benefit them financially and player development. And they could potentially sell the player on for a big fee

At least with celtic their fans don't give a toss and wouldn't boast. Don't think any of them hate us like sevco fans do.

[SMAXXA]

Simple really, it benefits sevco more then it would benefit hibs, their fans hate us and we hate them and they would use it against us to boast. Don't want hibs giving any income to sevco when it helps benefit them financially and player development. And they could potentially sell the player on for a big fee

At least with celtic their fans don't give a toss and wouldn't boast. Don't think any of them hate us like sevco fans do.

Pretty narrow minded view imo. I don’t care who we get players from as long as they improve Hibs

[JimBHibees]

Never get this attitude

Yep Murphy will be a decent signing for us don't care a jot where he comes from

[Torto7]

He is out of contract at the end of this season although is contract may run until 31st May, after that he is unemployed.

Celtic could have triggered an option of another year but they had to do so by 30th April, they didn't. I thought they might have, even if only then they could sell him. It has been reported in several places about the 30th April deadline.

After Lennon left he was told he had no future at the club, John Kennedy doesn't like him and hardly plays him which has effectively put him out of contention for the Euros.

I have no idea if he has had offers or not, I just can't imagine him playing far away from this area. I think he would get homesick pretty quickly if he moved abroad.

That's petty from Kennedy if true. I wonder whats happened and why he would spite him like that? I've not been impressed by JK one bit and I'm glad we didn't get him. He lacks personality.

From the rest of your post that makes Hibs heavy favourites to get him:aok:. Unless clubs in the N.East of England are interested and he's allowed to commute. Do you think there's a good chance we'll get him?

[hibbysam]

Simple really, it benefits sevco more then it would benefit hibs, their fans hate us and we hate them and they would use it against us to boast. Don't want hibs giving any income to sevco when it helps benefit them financially and player development. And they could potentially sell the player on for a big fee

At least with celtic their fans don't give a toss and wouldn't boast. Don't think any of them hate us like sevco fans do.

Celtic fans wouldn’t boast? They’re the most arrogant, antagonistic ********s in Scottish football. They spent the best part of a year telling Huns that they were the ones that won the cup in 2016.

[jacomo]

Pretty narrow minded view imo. I don’t care who we get players from as long as they improve Hibs


Same.

As for Hun vs Tic fans, they are both objectionable in their own ways.

[Iain G]

Oxford looking at James apparently it’s been reported.

I hope the Sit Down and agree a contract...

[04Sauzee]

I hope the Sit Down and agree a contract...

It's his destiny calling.

[Keyser Sauzee]

We’re we linked with Hendry at Raith? Watching the playoff game now and keeping an eye out for him?

[CapitalGreen]

We’re we linked with Hendry at Raith? Watching the playoff game now and keeping an eye out for him?

Just assisted the first goal, if you can call that an assist.

[Robbo6-2]

He is no where near the standard we require.

[Keyser Sauzee]

He is no where near the standard we require.

He’s not stood out at all

[Iain G]

It's his destiny calling.

Hope they realise he's a star

[badabing67]

He is out of contract at the end of this season although is contract may run until 31st May, after that he is unemployed.

Celtic could have triggered an option of another year but they had to do so by 30th April, they didn't. I thought they might have, even if only then they could sell him. It has been reported in several places about the 30th April deadline.

After Lennon left he was told he had no future at the club, John Kennedy doesn't like him and hardly plays him which has effectively put him out of contention for the Euros.

I have no idea if he has had offers or not, I just can't imagine him playing far away from this area. I think he would get homesick pretty quickly if he moved abroad.

Thanks for clarification I never noticed a 30th April deadline anywhere. So that was definitely his appearance for Celtic at ER. Just gotta hope his next appearance at ER is in a Hibs shirt. We've to win the cup again. The Euro wind fall could get that over the line.

[JohnM1875]

I get the nature of the game probably means it's never going to be a great game. But Hendry hasn't looked anywhere near good enough to play for us.

[SMAXXA]

He is no where near the standard we require.

Watching both games you could say the same about Gullan

[DetroitHibs]

I’m sure Ron and JR have two lists. There will be a list of players if we win the cup and in Europe and a second list if we don’t. The difference in money is huge! Also be needing a bigger squad if we win the cup and secure European football until Christmas.

[Jones28]

Watching both games you could say the same about Gullan

I thought Gullan was good tonight.

[Gmack7]

I thought Gullan was good tonight.

I didn't see much from either to be honest

[SMAXXA]

I thought Gullan was good tonight.

I thought he did hee haw and has been like that every time I’ve seen him this season. I like him and was disappointed to see him go on loan but lets be honest if he want on loan from us no one would be talking about he’s one we should try and sign which says a lot Imo

[Andy74]

I thought he did hee haw and has been like that every time I’ve seen him this season. I like him and was disappointed to see him go on loan but lets be honest if he want on loan from us no one would be talking about he’s one we should try and sign which says a lot Imo

Yeah agree. Another who unfortunately just probably isn’t good enough for where we want to be.

Don’t expect him or Murray to be back in the squad.

[SMAXXA]

Yeah agree. Another who unfortunately just probably isn’t good enough for where we want to be.

Don’t expect him or Murray to be back in the squad.

Agree mate I don’t think either have a long term future with us and expect permanent moves away in the summer, just my opinion

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Yeah agree. Another who unfortunately just probably isn’t good enough for where we want to be.

Don’t expect him or Murray to be back in the squad.

I think there’s still room for development in Gullan. Still a young boy who would benefit from another loan. I think he’s contracted until 2022, so no harm in sending him out again to see if he kicks on, instead of cutting our losses this year.

[Eyrie]

Next season we'll need four strikers and it will be difficult to sign anyone to spend most of the season on the bench. Gullan is under contract and won't be on a big wage, so is ideal for the role. It's then up to him to make the most of limited opportunities to either earn an extension or impress his next club.

We'll still need a third striker to compete/rotate with Doidge and Nisbet.

[brog]

Watching both games you could say the same about Gullan

Gullan won Raith Supporters MOTM in the 1st game.

[SMAXXA]

Gullan won Raith Supporters MOTM in the 1st game.

A Raith fans view of a championship game and performance is very different from a team 3rd in the Premiership and playing in Europe. Forgive me if that fact doesn’t alter my opinion on wether I thing he’s shown he’s a player we would be talking about signing 😉

Oww and they got humped 3 zip lol

[brog]

Agree mate I don’t think either have a long term future with us and expect permanent moves away in the summer, just my opinion

Jamie Gullan is well ahead of where Kevin Nisbet was at the same age. I very much doubt we will let him go particularly given the uncertainty 're Nisbet's future.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

A Raith fans view of a championship game and performance is very different from a team 3rd in the Premiership and playing in Europe. Forgive me if that fact doesn’t alter my opinion on wether I thing he’s shown he’s a player we would be talking about signing 😉

Oww and they got humped 3 zip lol

Personal opinion here, Gullan would have made a bigger impact on our games than Drey Wright has this season.

[brog]

A Raith fans view of a championship game and performance is very different from a team 3rd in the Premiership and playing in Europe. Forgive me if that fact doesn’t alter my opinion on wether I thing he’s shown he’s a player we would be talking about signing 😉

Oww and they got humped 3 zip lol

You said you didn't see much from him in either game. You're commenting on the same game as the Raith fans but discounting their opinions. That's the kind of arrogance we rightly condemn from fans of the uglies.

[ElginHibbie]

Ash Taylor leaving Aberdeen, if Porto expected to leave might be interest from us?

[HendoDelivered]

Ash Taylor leaving Aberdeen, if Porto expected to leave might be interest from us?

Nah, he’s brutal.

[hibee-boys]

Ash Taylor leaving Aberdeen, if Porto expected to leave might be interest from us?

Signing Aberdeen rejects won’t help us finish above them next year.

[SMAXXA]

You said you didn't see much from him in either game. You're commenting on the same game as the Raith fans but discounting their opinions. That's the kind of arrogance we rightly condemn from fans of the uglies.

I’m not discounting their opinions I’m sure their opinion on what constitutes a MoTM in a game you get beat 3-0 in the championship is upto them. My opinion is as a Hibs fan I didn’t see anything in either game that would make me stand up and think he’s a player we should go for.

I like JG all I’m saying is if people are writing of the boy Hendry based on the play off games you could do the same with Gullan.

As a poster said above I agree he would have probably contributed more than Drey Wright should he have stayed, again probably not saying much though.

I’m not writing him off and don’t have anything against him, quite the opposite but these players need to start standing up and show they are better than average (see Josh Doig). With Gullan you could argue his last spell on loan was more impressive than this one yet where has it got him. As we start to raise the bar as a club in terms of player ability these young lads may just not make the grade and if they arnt better than what we have or can get they need to find the level they will thrive at and play regularly.

Let’s see how he does when he comes back and after another Pre season I like him and hope he turns out to be a big player for us, it’s over to him to do that.

[superfurryhibby]

I very much doubt Jamie Gullan will ever be a regular Spfl player at Hibs, or anywhere else.for that matter

[brog]

I’m not discounting their opinions I’m sure their opinion on what constitutes a MoTM in a game you get beat 3-0 in the championship is upto them. My opinion is as a Hibs fan I didn’t see anything in either game that would make me stand up and think he’s a player we should go for.

I like JG all I’m saying is if people are writing of the boy Hendry based on the play off games you could do the same with Gullan.

As a poster said above I agree he would have probably contributed more than Drey Wright should he have stayed, again probably not saying much though.

I’m not writing him off and don’t have anything against him, quite the opposite but these players need to start standing up and show they are better than average (see Josh Doig). With Gullan you could argue his last spell on loan was more impressive than this one yet where has it got him. As we start to raise the bar as a club in terms of player ability these young lads may just not make the grade and if they arnt better than what we have or can get they need to find the level they will thrive at and play regularly.

Let’s see how he does when he comes back and after another Pre season I like him and hope he turns out to be a big player for us, it’s over to him to do that.

I agree. I would say I saw the Dunfermline game where he was outstanding. Unfortunately IIRC he was injured soon after & he hasn't repeated that performance. As I said above he's ahead of Nisbet comparatively at this time in their careers. Let's hope Jamie kicks on inthe same manner as Kevin.

[The Count]

For me young Hibs players that really make it at Hibs as special come in quickly and kick on quickly eg Stanton,Rice,Collins,Brown,Doig etc.There is exceptions to my wee rule but in general if they hang about the bench and are not first time players by 19/20 then they are not special.For Hibs to kick on to be the Third Force for a sustained we need a constant better calibre of players and i am afraid many of our young talent will not reach the level unfortunately.

[CMurdoch]

I agree. I would say I saw the Dunfermline game where he was outstanding. Unfortunately IIRC he was injured soon after & he hasn't repeated that performance. As I said above he's ahead of Nisbet comparatively at this time in their careers. Let's hope Jamie kicks on inthe same manner as Kevin.

Supporters are too fast to make a decision on young players.
A season ago Jamie was playing 1st Division and was good enough.
This season he moved up a Division and again played well enough to get good game time and be brought right back into the team after injury.
Next season he will look to move his game to the next stage. That could be at Hibs or it might be a loan to a bottom 6 club.
It's all about trying to benchmark his ability and position on a development scale.
Playing up front is a very technical position far more so than Doig's position so it is more difficult to make an impression unless you have an attribute that gives you a big edge on the defenders I.e. exceptional speed , physique etc.
Fortunately, the coaching staff monitor player progress and performance very closely and in most cases will call a young players career correctly so we can trust that if they are still at Hibs they are making positive progress and there is a confidence that they could make it at Hibs.
Kevin D has recently earned a new contract and Fraser Murray & Gullan will face a similar reckoning at the end of next season. Massive pressure on young heads in a brutal business.

[BoomtownHibees]

Supporters are too fast to make a decision on young players.
A season ago Jamie was playing 1st Division and was good enough.
This season he moved up a Division and again played well enough to get good game time and be brought right back into the team after injury.
Next season he will look to move his game to the next stage. That could be at Hibs or it might be a loan to a bottom 6 club.
It's all about trying to benchmark his ability and position on a development scale.
Playing up front is a very technical position far more so than Doig's position so it is more difficult to make an impression unless you have an attribute that gives you a big edge on the defenders I.e. exceptional speed , physique etc.
Fortunately, the coaching staff monitor player progress and performance very closely and in most cases will call a young players career correctly so we can trust that if they are still at Hibs they are making positive progress and there is a confidence that they could make it at Hibs.
Kevin D has recently earned a new contract and Fraser Murray & Gullan will face a similar reckoning at the end of next season. Massive pressure on young heads in a brutal business.

Are there many young players who have made it despite being written off early?

[brog]

Are there many young players who have made it despite being written off early?


Probably thousands! Just at ER we have SDG, released by Man U and Preston, Doig, released by Hearts, Nisbet, released by Partick. Doidge was a Southampton youth player but not offered a contract. There will be more.

[The Modfather]

Are there many young players who have made it despite being written off early?

I often think fans are a good judge of a youngster and get most of them right from the start. Certainly I’m terms of the players who will go on to be a regular and move on to better things. It’s harder to spot players who will be good servants but Hibs is their level e.g. Stevenson, Hanlon, Booth, Wotherspoon etc.

[Percy Vere]

Yep Murphy will be a decent signing for us don't care a jot where he comes from

Remember where we signed Daz from?
These guys are professional footballers, doesn’t matter a toss where they come from. No room for bigoted views and xenophobia.

[BoomtownHibees]

Probably thousands! Just at ER we have SDG, released by Man U and Preston, Doig, released by Hearts, Nisbet, released by Partick. Doidge was a Southampton youth player but not offered a contract. There will be more.

Sorry, I should have been more specific and said Hibs fans. I can’t think of many players coming through the academy that have been written off by a number of fans who have then went on to play at our level

[mayo hibee]

Are there many young players who have made it despite being written off early?

Literally thousands.

[blackpoolhibs]

Are there many young players who have made it despite being written off early?
Daz McGregor.:greengrin

[BoomtownHibees]

Daz McGregor.:greengrin

Haha. You are of course correct. I meant to be a bit more specific to Hibs over the years. I can’t remember many young players who were written off by the fans then going on to having a career at a similar level to us. There may be the odd couple but I’m struggling to think of any

[blackpoolhibs]

Haha. You are of course correct. I meant to be a bit more specific to Hibs over the years. I can’t remember many young players who were written off by the fans then going on to having a career at a similar level to us. There may be the odd couple but I’m struggling to think of any

Paul Hartley. :greengrin

[BoomtownHibees]

Paul Hartley. :greengrin

**academy player 😁

[superfurryhibby]

**academy player 😁

Shifting the goalposts :wink:

What about Kirk Bigfoot?

[Hibbyradge]

Haha. You are of course correct. I meant to be a bit more specific to Hibs over the years. I can’t remember many young players who were written off by the fans then going on to having a career at a similar level to us. There may be the odd couple but I’m struggling to think of any

Paul Hanlon and Lewis Stevenson.

[BoomtownHibees]

Shifting the goalposts :wink:

What about Kirk Bigfoot?

I’d be as well just deleting the post and starting again lol

I’m no sure he was ever in the first team squad long enough for anyone to forge any sort of opinion on him. But anyone who tries to boil an egg in a microwave is fair game IMO

[BoomtownHibees]

Paul Hanlon and Lewis Stevenson.

Were they written off you reckon?

[weecounty hibby]

Were they written off you reckon?
Every season!!!

[BoomtownHibees]

Every season!!!

There’s definitely differing opinions on whether they are good enough, totally get that. Folk can think what they want.

What I’m asking though is about when they first broke through, were they written off by the majority? I genuinely can’t remember

[Hibbyradge]

There’s definitely differing opinions on whether they are good enough, totally get that. Folk can think what they want.

What I’m asking though is about when they first broke through, were they written off by the majority? I genuinely can’t remember

You're asking a question with very tight parameters!

Does David Wotherspoon count?

[Wilson]

There’s definitely differing opinions on whether they are good enough, totally get that. Folk can think what they want.

What I’m asking though is about when they first broke through, were they written off by the majority? I genuinely can’t remember

Vocal minority in the case of Hanlon. Stevenson got a torrid time while the whole team struggled. Again I wouldn't think written off by the majority. Underaprecited perhaps.

[tamig]

There’s definitely differing opinions on whether they are good enough, totally get that. Folk can think what they want.

What I’m asking though is about when they first broke through, were they written off by the majority? I genuinely can’t remember
There’s been plenty of young guys who’ve broken through, played a few games, been released and have gone on to have decent careers. I’m not so sure too many of those guys have been written off by the majority of the support though. Wotherspoon and Booth being two examples. You could add Sam Stanton to that as well although he’s playing at a lower level in Ireland now.

[BoomtownHibees]

You're asking a question with very tight parameters!

Does David Wotherspoon count?

Yeah he is possibly one you could count. But again, was he completely written off? Also, I’m still no convinced he would have continued to play at Hibs and be at the level we wanted. In saying that, he would have been a lot better than some of the players we ended up with. Moving to St J has obviously helped him as well

[SMAXXA]

Yeah he is possibly one you could count. But again, was he completely written off? Also, I’m still no convinced he would have continued to play at Hibs and be at the level we wanted. In saying that, he would have been a lot better than some of the players we ended up with. Moving to St J has obviously helped him as well

Your overall point is a good one and I often think the same. Fans by nature as fickle as some are, we are also pretty loyal and are hell bent on our own young players being successful. Hard facts are most arnt going to be anything special and I don’t think there is any I could roll of the tongue to say we let him go incorrectly and he’s went on to have a brilliant career above the level we are playing at. I can’t think of any and I’m going to base this on since we opened HTC as think that’s as fair baseline.

Someone may tell me there has been though? I’m not talking about kids not making it to first team I’m talking about players who have broke into the first team then seemed not good enough.

[mayo hibee]

Are we talking about all players to have played for Hibs, or just ones that have come through the youth system?

Because if the caveats are that they have to have come through our youth system, but only since HTC opened, made it to the first team, then been deemed not good enough for the first team and then been let go, you've already narrowed it down to a fairly small number of players to begin with. So it's probably not a huge surprise that there aren't many examples. All that really shows is that HTC hasn't produced many good players full stop because there are hardly any HTC graduates currently here in our first team either. And we haven't exactly sold loads of them on for a massive profit in recent years either.

But we've certainly signed plenty of young enough players over the years both permanently and on loan that supporters have thought weren't good enough and who have gone on to have very good careers elsewhere. Not to mention players that have done well here that were initially written off by supporters. Those two groups of players provide a more realistic idea of how accurate some of our supporters' judgements are to be honest.

[BoomtownHibees]

Are we talking about all players to have played for Hibs, or just ones that have come through the youth system?

Because if the caveats are that they have to have come through our youth system, but only since HTC opened, made it to the first team, then been deemed not good enough for the first team and then been let go, you've already narrowed it down to a fairly small number of players to begin with. So it's probably not a huge surprise that there aren't many examples. All that really shows is that HTC hasn't produced many good players full stop because there are hardly any HTC graduates currently here in our first team either. And we haven't exactly sold loads of them on for a massive profit in recent years either.

But we've certainly signed plenty of young enough players over the years both permanently and on loan that supporters have thought weren't good enough and who have gone on to have very good careers elsewhere. Not to mention players that have done well here that were initially written off by supporters. Those two groups of players provide a more realistic idea of how accurate some of our supporters' judgements are to be honest.

It was a point made (badly tbf) to argue the point that supporters write off young players far too quickly. I personally don’t think we do and when there’s a fair chunk of fans saying a young player isn’t good enough and won’t “make it,” they are generally correct

[hibee-boys]

I can’t recall a single academy prospect that didn’t make it at Hibs and has gone on to play at a higher level.

[Dazzjw1875]

Bit out there but if we cannot get Griffiths I would 100% try for lafferty goal scorer I know his past won't agree with most but. Would score easy double figures its just keeping the heid screwed on same with griffiths

[Hibbyradge]

Bit out there but if we cannot get Griffiths I would 100% try for lafferty goal scorer I know his past won't agree with most but. Would score easy double figures its just keeping the heid screwed on same with griffiths

Is this the boy who arranged to meet with Lennon for signing talks but didn't show up because he'd already agreed terms with hearts and was publicised his planned rejection of us to ingratiate himself with their gullible fans?

[Cocaine&Caviar]

I can’t recall a single academy prospect that didn’t make it at Hibs and has gone on to play at a higher level.

Scougall?

[HibbyAndy]

Scougall?

Darren Fletcher ?

[BoomtownHibees]

Darren Fletcher ?

Was never at Hibs

[Callum_62]

Darren Fletcher ?He was never at hibs to make it

He trained a few times, realised it was a shambles and didn't stick around

He was already verbally committed to Man Utd then anway

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[BoomtownHibees]

Scougall?

Did he play at a higher level than Hibs? Sheff Utd prob his biggest club but were in League 1 when he was there

[Jones28]

I can’t recall a single academy prospect that didn’t make it at Hibs and has gone on to play at a higher level.

Wasn’t griffiths released by us?

[hibee-boys]

Wasn’t griffiths released by us?

He may have been as a young lad, don’t know. Should’ve been more specific, I’d meant academy players who’d managed to break into the first team squad, its usually pretty apparent which youngsters are going onto bigger and better things or at least become a Hibs first team regular.

[tamig]

Did he play at a higher level than Hibs? Sheff Utd prob his biggest club but were in League 1 when he was there

How many first team games did he play for us?

[Cocaine&Caviar]

Did he play at a higher level than Hibs? Sheff Utd prob his biggest club but were in League 1 when he was there

Scored in an FA Cup Semi Final didnt he?

[oneone73]

I can’t recall a single academy prospect that didn’t make it at Hibs and has gone on to play at a higher level.

Kevin Nisbet will soon.

[superfurryhibby]

This thread is becoming pretty cheesy. People answering questions that are so badly worded that no one actually knows what's actually being asked :wink:

Any transfer gossip, anyone, please.........

[BoomtownHibees]

This thread is becoming pretty cheesy. People answering questions that are so badly worded that no one actually knows what's actually being asked :wink:

Any transfer gossip, anyone, please.........

It wasn’t that badly worded 😂

[Wilson]

This thread is becoming pretty cheesy. People answering questions that are so badly worded that no one actually knows what's actually being asked :wink:

Any transfer gossip, anyone, please.........

Straight ahead and then second on the right.

[Ray_]

I can’t recall a single academy prospect that didn’t make it at Hibs and has gone on to play at a higher level.

Gordon Strachan?

[Billy Whizz]

Gordon Strachan?

I didn’t know that

[Peevemor]

I thought that Strachan was never on Hibs books.

[04Sauzee]

Gordon Strachan?

Did he not leave after a row over money and a bust up with Eddie Turnbull? I have probably just made this up 🤣

[GordonHFC]

Did he not leave after a row over money and a bust up with Eddie Turnbull? I have probably just made this up 🤣

Tom Hart thought he was too small.

[Peevemor]

Did he not leave after a row over money and a bust up with Eddie Turnbull? I have probably just made this up [emoji1787]He was about to sign but couldn't agree terms (the price of a pair of boots springs to mind).

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210516/6f79564aa605ae1be916484350c6e903.jpg

[Billy Whizz]

Tom Hart thought he was too small.

Which youth team did he play with as a kid, know it was a long time ago

[04Sauzee]

He was about to sign but couldn't agree terms (the price of a pair of boots springs to mind).

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210516/6f79564aa605ae1be916484350c6e903.jpg
I was almost half right 😁

[Peevemor]

Which youth team did he play with as a kid, know it was a long time agoEdinburgh Thistle & Craigroyston HS. IIRC he signed for Dundee when he was 14 and continued to play for Craigroyston.

[AgentDaleCooper]

I can’t recall a single academy prospect that didn’t make it at Hibs and has gone on to play at a higher level.

Not a higher level per se, though he did NEARLY win the league and was a massive pain in our arse...john robertson...?