Summer 2021-22 transfer thread

[Highwayman]

Reference previous posts as to rumoured interest in the massively injury prone Mikey Devlin.

Surely Hibs can’t afford another season where they have half a team they can’t rely on because of injury,recovering from long term serious injury or illness.

Namely Messrs Cadden,Mackie,Magennis,Allan,Wright and Murphy.

If Hibs want Jason Kerr they’ll have to sell Porteous for decent gelt and persuade St Johnstone to part with him for probably most or all of Porto fee.

As for Alex Campbell.Seems like the boy has his eye (like Nesbit) on big bucks down south.

[007]

I get some people don’t rate him but to be he’s a very good player for this level and it would be a huge loss is he went to Aberdeen.

Yes some games he was quiet or never had the impact some expected. But as a whole he played behind the striker or left mid, neither would be his best position Imo.

What did change when he came in though was our overall performances imo and especially the performance of those around him - Boyle being the main one.

They seemed to always be on the same wave length and he created a lot of chances with his vision.

He clearly never had his goal scoring boots on but he got in the right position repeatedly and at previous clubs has chipped in with goals so he had the capabilities.

He’s a big lad, can run all day and is good on the ball. Perfect for Scottish football.

Central 2 between him, Newell, Gogic and Magennis with Allan just infront.

I'd expect Irvine to be a better player in the coming season (whoever he is with) with a full pre-season behind him. Likewise Magennis and Scotty Allan who could be like having a couple of new signings given how little they played in 2020/2021. You could maybe even say the same for Murphy, if he can avoid injury and get a run in the team.

[Highwayman]

Reference previous posts as to rumoured interest in the massively injury prone Mikey Devlin.

Surely Hibs can’t afford another season where they have half a team they can’t rely on because of injury,recovering from long term serious injury or illness.

Namely Messrs Cadden,Mackie,Magennis,Allan,Wright and Murphy.

If Hibs want Jason Kerr they’ll have to sell Porteous for decent gelt and persuade St Johnstone to part with him for probably most or all of Porto fee.

As for Alex Campbell.Seems like the boy has his eye (like Nesbit) on big bucks down south.

Meant Alan Campbell.Don’t know where I got Alex from.

[Unseen work]

Was there not an article saying it would only cost 300k for Kerr?

If it’s true we should match that straight away.

Only in the last year of his contract and I’m not sure St Johnstone would be able to reject too much money.

I’d be stunned if we got him for as little as 300k especially as he’s the captain and double cup winner.

Him for Porteous would be a fantastic bit of business especially when we’d be making a profit.

I’d be trying to sign McCart too.

[w pilton hibby]

Was there not an article saying it would only cost 300k for Kerr?

If it’s true we should match that straight away.

Only in the last year of his contract and I’m not sure St Johnstone would be able to reject too much money.

I’d be stunned if we got him for as little as 300k especially as he’s the captain and double cup winner.

Him for Porteous would be a fantastic bit of business especially when we’d be making a profit.

I’d be trying to sign McCart too.

Kerr open to extending his contract in Perth.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/international/jason-kerr-speaks-on-st-johnstone-future-after-being-linked-with-hibs-and-other-clubs-3238702

[cabbageandribs1875]

if jason kerr is so good why didn't millwall go for him instead of RP :confused:

[flash]

if jason kerr is so good why didn't millwall go for him instead of RP :confused:

He is a decent centre half who knows his job. Ryan has the potential to be much more.
I like Kerr but if RP continues to learn he will play at a different level.

[Smartie]

if jason kerr is so good why didn't millwall go for him instead of RP :confused:

Mystery to me.

He’s miles better than Porteous.

If we were able to sell Porteous, bring in Kerr and have money left over, that would be the outcome of the century.

I still think that Kerr is probably out our reach, as are most of the targets we’d want.

It’ll be rabbits out of hats stuff from the recruitment team again. In fairness, they’ve done well in the recent past and I’d trust the club to get it right again.

Boyle is the one we’d have most trouble replacing, particularly if rumours of release clauses etc are true.

I’m quite relaxed about the idea of losing Porteous and Nisbet, especially if we got a few quid and it found it’s way towards decent replacements.

[JimBHibees]

Mystery to me.

He’s miles better than Porteous.

If we were able to sell Porteous, bring in Kerr and have money left over, that would be the outcome of the century.

I still think that Kerr is probably out our reach, as are most of the targets we’d want.

It’ll be rabbits out of hats stuff from the recruitment team again. In fairness, they’ve done well in the recent past and I’d trust the club to get it right again.

Boyle is the one we’d have most trouble replacing, particularly if rumours of release clauses etc are true.

I’m quite relaxed about the idea of losing Porteous and Nisbet, especially if we got a few quid and it found it’s way towards decent replacements.

Better defender at present but nowhere near as good on the ball which will be the reason Ryan will play at a higher level.

[HibbyAndy]

if jason kerr is so good why didn't millwall go for him instead of RP :confused:

Jason Kerr is miles and miles better than Ryan Porteous

[flash]

Jason Kerr is miles and miles better than Ryan Porteous

The old Penicuik mafia.

[davhibby]

Irvine will probably have decent offers from elsewhere, possibly Asia/Australia? I’d be surprised if he left us to go to Aberdeen.

[HoboHarry]

Jason Kerr is miles and miles better than Ryan Porteous
Joe Tortalano was better than Jim Baxter. Am I doing this right?

[HibbyAndy]

The old Penicuik mafia.

Maybe a bit harsh by me saying miles and miles but Kerr is a better defender for sure i don't think that's even up for debate

[brog]

if jason kerr is so good why didn't millwall go for him instead of RP :confused:

Good question. Ryan is 2 years younger than Jason, has been capped at 3 underage levels, has twice as many U21 caps as Jason & has been involved in full Scotland squads. If Jason was at Hibs & Ryan at St J, some posters on here would be saying Ryan was the better player. We seem at times to delight in putting our own players down.

[Wheat Hound]

Jason Kerr is miles and miles better than Ryan Porteous

Nonsense

[MWHIBBIES]

Reference previous posts as to rumoured interest in the massively injury prone Mikey Devlin.

Surely Hibs can’t afford another season where they have half a team they can’t rely on because of injury,recovering from long term serious injury or illness.

Namely Messrs Cadden,Mackie,Magennis,Allan,Wright and Murphy.

If Hibs want Jason Kerr they’ll have to sell Porteous for decent gelt and persuade St Johnstone to part with him for probably most or all of Porto fee.

As for Alex Campbell.Seems like the boy has his eye (like Nesbit) on big bucks down south.

Could happen with absolutely anyone we sign. Murphy went about 12 years of his career without missing a game.

[Jones28]

Jason Kerr is a billion times better than Porteous. That’s why St Johnston had no offers for him in January.

[Heisenberg]

I’m sure Porteous would do a fine job if asked to spend the majority of the time defending his own 18 yard box with the help of two other central defenders and two defensive midfielders in front of him.

[HibbyAndy]

Nonsense

My above quote saying he is miles and miles better i have said it's quite harsh but still maintain JK is a better dender than RP


That's my opinion by the way

[brog]

My above quote saying he is miles and miles better i have said it's quite harsh but still maintain JK is a better dender than RP


That's my opinion by the way

I'm glad you qualified that, having previously said that Kerr being a better defender than Ryan wasn't even up for debate. I'm afraid it is.

[HibbyAndy]

I'm glad you qualified that, having previously said that Kerr being a better defender than Ryan wasn't even up for debate. I'm afraid it is.

Debate on :aok:

[Wheat Hound]

My above quote saying he is miles and miles better i have said it's quite harsh but still maintain JK is a better dender than RP


That's my opinion by the way

Aye fair enough.

Fine to say you think JK is a better player at the moment but just thought saying he is miles better is not true.

[HibbyAndy]

Aye fair enough.

Fine to say you think JK is a better player at the moment but just thought saying he is miles better is not true.

You are right he is not miles better , But he is better

[Unseen work]

I’m sure Porteous would do a fine job if asked to spend the majority of the time defending his own 18 yard box with the help of two other central defenders and two defensive midfielders in front of him.

I’ve made this point on numerous occasions too and I’m glad someone else see’s it.

Whilst I do think Kerr and McCart are very good defenders and would improve us I think a lot has to be said for how they play. Start of the season they struggled massively.

Porteous has had a very good season overall despite making some howlers. But he is brave on the ball and you can see a lot of what we do comes from him taking a risk or playing a slide pass into midfield.

We also defend with McGinn and Hanlon being adventurous and when we’re in possession we’re very stretched to keep the game wide.

If you put Hanlon and Porteous in St Johnstone’s team and they were told to only defend and get the ball away at all costs they would look solid (even more solid than they have been).

St Johnstone essentially play with a back 5 and 2 sitting midfielders.

Also it’s worth noting all of our back three - McGinn, Porteous and Hanlon got called up to the national team this season. Not one of the st Johnstone defenders did

My main thing with Porteous is something I’d never thought I would associate to him and that is he appears more interested in looking good and being a ball player than actually defending. Kerr for me knows exactly what he is, he defends solidly, consistently and on the ball he is still good whilst knowing what’s too risky and what’s not.

[S4uzee]

Better defender at present but nowhere near as good on the ball which will be the reason Ryan will play at a higher level.

Is Porteous that good on the ball? Gives it away a lot of the time

[Highwayman]

I’m sure Porteous would do a fine job if asked to spend the majority of the time defending his own 18 yard box with the help of two other central defenders and two defensive midfielders in front of him.

This has been my question about Jason Kerr as well.

He plays his part and plays it well for St Johnstone in what is a very rigid system.

What happens when you transfer him to a far more flexible system where he’s required to make his own decisions.Are we ready to find what happens if we take a chance on him?

[Brightside]

Reference previous posts as to rumoured interest in the massively injury prone Mikey Devlin.

Surely Hibs can’t afford another season where they have half a team they can’t rely on because of injury,recovering from long term serious injury or illness.

Namely Messrs Cadden,Mackie,Magennis,Allan,Wright and Murphy.

If Hibs want Jason Kerr they’ll have to sell Porteous for decent gelt and persuade St Johnstone to part with him for probably most or all of Porto fee.

As for Alex Campbell.Seems like the boy has his eye (like Nesbit) on big bucks down south.

Hibs don’t have to sell anyone. But selling for big money can only take us to the next level.

[blackpoolhibs]

You are right he is not miles better , But he is better

How much better though, could you measure it in distance?

[Brightside]

JK is better than RP right now. RP may become a better player but he sees his future down south. JK would be a great signing. 2 CBs, a CM, a striker in time for the arsenal game.

[HibbyAndy]

How much better though, could you measure it in distance?

Just better

[Brightside]

Can't find anything from the season ended but the previous season his passing was amongst the best. Has he regressed? Would be good to see a comparison
https://i.ibb.co/gRRm4Y0/SPL-CB-5.png (https://ibb.co/711jkh3)

Someone will claim that because Hanlon and Porto just pass it to each other. There are also some graphs that show passes that turn into chances. Both do well in that. JK is not a ball playing CH like Hanlon. But he is a strong and intelligent CH.

[blackpoolhibs]

Just better
:greengrin

[ahibby]

Jason Kerr is a billion times better than Porteous. That’s why St Johnston had no offers for him in January.

Raise you a trillion and a bag of crisps.

[brog]

It's really quite amazing that with this poor defence, we had our best defensive season for 20 years & conceded 11 goals less than the wonderful St Johnstone!

[Smartie]

I’ve made this point on numerous occasions too and I’m glad someone else see’s it.

Whilst I do think Kerr and McCart are very good defenders and would improve us I think a lot has to be said for how they play. Start of the season they struggled massively.

Porteous has had a very good season overall despite making some howlers. But he is brave on the ball and you can see a lot of what we do comes from him taking a risk or playing a slide pass into midfield.

We also defend with McGinn and Hanlon being adventurous and when we’re in possession we’re very stretched to keep the game wide.

If you put Hanlon and Porteous in St Johnstone’s team and they were told to only defend and get the ball away at all costs they would look solid (even more solid than they have been).

St Johnstone essentially play with a back 5 and 2 sitting midfielders.

Also it’s worth noting all of our back three - McGinn, Porteous and Hanlon got called up to the national team this season. Not one of the st Johnstone defenders did

My main thing with Porteous is something I’d never thought I would associate to him and that is he appears more interested in looking good and being a ball player than actually defending. Kerr for me knows exactly what he is, he defends solidly, consistently and on the ball he is still good whilst knowing what’s too risky and what’s not.

I accept that Porteous is good on the ball, it's definitely a major strength of his and in the modern game that is more important than ever.

Defenders are first and foremost there to defend though and I just find him to be deficient at it too often. He's a big laddie, he's strong and he's aggressive so he has all the physical tools to do it but I think there's just a bit missing between the ears. He makes stupid mistakes, loses his cool and his decision making when not in possession can be incredibly suspect. I agree with what you say about Kerr but knowing your own limitations is part of the job of being a defender - knowing what you're able to do and not.

Darren McGregor has been a wonderful player for Hibs but I accept he's in many ways a limited player. Doesn't stop him being a 1st class defender and one of the best CH's we've signed during my time watching Hibs.

I don't want to make this thread to go the same way as the Nisbet one went last night but I think Porteous thinks he now deserves to earn what players down South earn and his head was turned in January (well, long before - I think a lot of this stemmed from that link up with Andy Murray's lot). Under other circumstances I might suspect that he's just gone through a rough patch of form that he needs to work his way through to become a better player but I reckon he needs to be somewhere where he feels a bit more rewarded for his talents in order to knuckle down and improve. That's just not going to happen with us.

[ancient hibee]

It's really quite amazing that with this poor defence, we had our best defensive season for 20 years & conceded 11 goals less than the wonderful St Johnstone!

It must be late if you think a sensible post will butter any parsnips on here.All these players we should be signing . Should’t be a problem as nobody else seems to want them whereas they do want ours who are evidently inferior in every way.As for posts about easily replacing the best young striker in the league-they’re beyond laughable.

[northstandhibby]

It must be late if you think a sensible post will butter any parsnips on here.All these players we should be signing . Should’t be a problem as nobody else seems to want them whereas they do want ours who are evidently inferior in every way.As for posts about easily replacing the best young striker in the league-they’re beyond laughable.

I don't recall seeing any poster saying that. The reality is that Kevin will probably be away this summer if Hibs valuation is agreed upon. Of course it won't be easy to replace him as he has all the attributes a striker needs - pace, guile, links play, scores a lot of goals. That's why Hibs will seek the optimum compensation for letting him go and we go again, scouting for the next Kevin Nisbet that will develop into a multi million pound player. Never easy but hopefully we'll bank a fair chunk of dough that will help the search process.

[CMurdoch]

Meant Alan Campbell.Don’t know where I got Alex from.

You mean Allan Campbell :wink:

I say Nisbet they say Nesbet
Nisbet Nesbet, Nisbet, Nesbet
Let's call the whole thing off

[SMAXXA]

I don't recall seeing any poster saying that. The reality is that Kevin will probably be away this summer if Hibs valuation is agreed upon. Of course it won't be easy to replace him as he has all the attributes a striker needs - pace, guile, links play, scores a lot of goals. That's why Hibs will seek the optimum compensation for letting him go and we go again, scouting for the next Kevin Nisbet that will develop into a multi million pound player. Never easy but hopefully we'll bank a fair chunk of dough that will help the search process.

You haven’t been reading enough then as I’ve also seen them over a few threads. I’m trying my best just to ignore the stupid comments such as hope I never see KN play for Hibs again, RP is ***** and JK is miles better, Irvine isn’t that good no fussed for signing him and that all or some of the above are just Mercenaries. Those are just the ones that spring to mind, owe the comments on Macey seem to have subsided since the final which is a positive 🤦*♂️

[jacomo]

I don't recall seeing any poster saying that. The reality is that Kevin will probably be away this summer if Hibs valuation is agreed upon. Of course it won't be easy to replace him as he has all the attributes a striker needs - pace, guile, links play, scores a lot of goals. That's why Hibs will seek the optimum compensation for letting him go and we go again, scouting for the next Kevin Nisbet that will develop into a multi million pound player. Never easy but hopefully we'll bank a fair chunk of dough that will help the search process.


There has been loads of chat about moving Kevin on if we get offered £x for him. But too little concern about how we replace him imo.

Good players can be hard to find and Nisbet is a good player. I hope he stays another season.

[JohnM1875]

Someone will claim that because Hanlon and Porto just pass it to each other. There are also some graphs that show passes that turn into chances. Both do well in that. JK is not a ball playing CH like Hanlon. But he is a strong and intelligent CH.

I get the point in the graph. But I honestly think a huge part of our problem is relying on our CB's creating our chances.

They're there to be solid, defend and stop goals. Couldn't care less how good their 'forward passes per 90' or 'passes per 90' look if I'm completely honest. We have other players in the team to carry out that role.

[northstandhibby]

You haven’t been reading enough then as I’ve also seen them over a few threads. I’m trying my best just to ignore the stupid comments such as hope I never see KN play for Hibs again, RP is ***** and JK is miles better, Irvine isn’t that good no fussed for signing him and that all or some of the above are just Mercenaries. Those are just the ones that spring to mind, owe the comments on Macey seem to have subsided since the final which is a positive ��*♂️

I'm pretty certain the ones that said they never want to see Kevin back is because of the alleged transfer request which always attracts negative posts understandably so. Its a defensive biased mindset and again understandably so. We all want to see our best players stay at the club for as long as possible.


There has been loads of chat about moving Kevin on if we get offered £x for him. But too little concern about how we replace him imo.

Good players can be hard to find and Nisbet is a good player. I hope he stays another season.

I'm certain we'd all much prefer Kevin is at ER next season but money talks and if he's keen to move on then it's better we seek the maximum compensation and he moves on to his next club. We could be looking at around 3 to 5 million which is not a bad bit of business that will go some way to easing the process.

[Hibee Mac]

We should know better by now than to sign a St Johnstone player and expect him to be anything other than a flop.

Their players play well in part of a stuffy determined type of team with a single purpose which is to kill games and nick a goal. They're the new Aberdeen in that sense.

[SMAXXA]

We should know better by now than to sign a St Johnstone player and expect him to be anything other than a flop.

Their players play well in part of a stuffy determined type of team with a single purpose which is to kill games and nick a goal. They're the new Aberdeen in that sense.

100% are and I’ve made the same comparison a few times recently

[Smartie]

We all want our best players to remain at the club but those players are only our best players if their attitude is right and their head is in the right place.

There comes a time when it is appropriate for players to move on and I just think the time is right for a few to move on.

Players like John McGinn and Steven Fletcher moved on at the right time - had they stayed I'm not convinced they'd have continued to progress, in all likelihood they'd have stagnated, stood still or maybe gone backwards and the good relationships these players had with the support might have worsened.

Would I like to see Ryan Porteous iron out the daftness and build on his strengths in a Hibs shirt? Yes, I would. Would I like to see Kevin Nisbet get a bit more support around him, kick on and build on his very good first season with Hibs? Of course I would. I just don't think there's any likelihood of these things happening.

I don't think that in the eyes of most footballers Hibs are that attractive an option, in a short career they can earn much more elsewhere and will be relatively impatient in pursuing that.

Doig has the most potential but probably has most to gain by staying and I'd hold out hope of him doing so. Boyle's getting on a bit and will be the most likely to fancy one last payday if it's on offer but I think he'd still do a shift for us again if no move materialised. Porto and Nisbet I reckon will be off in a shot, and if they're not then I'd be concerned about where their heads might be at when it comes to playing for us next year.

It's always challenge replacing good players but we just have to do our best.

[northstandhibby]

We all want our best players to remain at the club but those players are only our best players if their attitude is right and their head is in the right place.

There comes a time when it is appropriate for players to move on and I just think the time is right for a few to move on.

Players like John McGinn and Steven Fletcher moved on at the right time - had they stayed I'm not convinced they'd have continued to progress, in all likelihood they'd have stagnated, stood still or maybe gone backwards and the good relationships these players had with the support might have worsened.

Would I like to see Ryan Porteous iron out the daftness and build on his strengths in a Hibs shirt? Yes, I would. Would I like to see Kevin Nisbet get a bit more support around him, kick on and build on his very good first season with Hibs? Of course I would. I just don't think there's any likelihood of these things happening.

I don't think that in the eyes of most footballers Hibs are that attractive an option, in a short career they can earn much more elsewhere and will be relatively impatient in pursuing that.

Doig has the most potential but probably has most to gain by staying and I'd hold out hope of him doing so. Boyle's getting on a bit and will be the most likely to fancy one last payday if it's on offer but I think he'd still do a shift for us again if no move materialised. Porto and Nisbet I reckon will be off in a shot, and if they're not then I'd be concerned about where their heads might be at when it comes to playing for us next year.

It's always challenge replacing good players but we just have to do our best.

I think you're talking our of your erchie stating that Hibs are not an attractive option in the eyes of most footballers. Every club is a stepping stone for the most talented players. Of course we're not the footballing pinnacle of success but we're a good wholesome club that seeks to look after our players and reward them as much as we can. One of the poorest posts I've ever read on here.

[Smartie]

I think you're talking our of your erchie stating that Hibs are not an attractive option in the eyes of most footballers. Every club is a stepping stone for the most talented players. Of course we're not the footballing pinnacle of success but we're a good wholesome club that seeks to look after our players and reward them as much as we can. One of the poorest posts I've ever read on here.

It's maybe a bit harsh but I think players' heads get turned when they reach a certain level, often when they get into international squads.

When players of ours start mixing with players who are their equal ability-wise but who may be earning significantly more, our good wholesome club suddenly doesn't appear to be all that attractive any more.

Sure, our club will have been appealing to Nisbet last summer or to Porteous when he was trying to make his breakthrough.

I guess my point is that when players start to think they're bigger than their club then that's not a good thing - and it doesn't matter who the players or the club are.

A few players, good players, have reached that stage in the past and I think a few have reached that stage with us now.

And when that stage is reached, it's time to cash in.

[northstandhibby]

It's maybe a bit harsh but I think players' heads get turned when they reach a certain level, often when they get into international squads.

When players of ours start mixing with players who are their equal ability-wise but who may be earning significantly more, our good wholesome club suddenly doesn't appear to be all that attractive any more.

Sure, our club will have been appealing to Nisbet last summer or to Porteous when he was trying to make his breakthrough.

I guess my point is that when players start to think they're bigger than their club then that's not a good thing - and it doesn't matter who the players or the club are.

A few players, good players, have reached that stage in the past and I thin a few have reached that stage with us now.

And when that stage is reached, it's time to cash in.

I totally agree with most of what you say. When the offers come in and the player wants to go then its time to start talking numbers. I think we can look forward to a big wedge for Kevin Nisbet as he's bound to have serious suitors. We're a good wholesome club mate and I get the disappointment that we have to sell on our best players when big money offers arrive, but that is the situation with virtually every club bar the top moneyed few.

[Smartie]

I totally agree with most of what you say. When the offers come in and the player wants to go then its time to start talking numbers. I think we can look forward to a big wedge for Kevin Nisbet as he's bound to have serious suitors. We're a good wholesome club mate and I get the disappointment that we have to sell on our best players when big money offers arrive, but that is the situation with virtually every club bar the top moneyed few.

You were right to make the point you did FWIW.

Our club is a great one and is very attractive to many players for a number of reasons.

It's certainly not a dig from me at Hibs or anyone at Hibs, rather than a frustration that this is a place we end up at with players.

I actually still think we've got a bit to offer both Porteous and Nisbet by way of development, but I don't think they see it that way.

[Brightside]

It's really quite amazing that with this poor defence, we had our best defensive season for 20 years & conceded 11 goals less than the wonderful St Johnstone!

It’s not a poor defence. We all know that.

[Brightside]

I get the point in the graph. But I honestly think a huge part of our problem is relying on our CB's creating our chances.

They're there to be solid, defend and stop goals. Couldn't care less how good their 'forward passes per 90' or 'passes per 90' look if I'm completely honest. We have other players in the team to carry out that role.

Our defence was the 3rd best. Our issue is always midfield.

[northstandhibby]

You were right to make the point you did FWIW.

Our club is a great one and is very attractive to many players for a number of reasons.

It's certainly not a dig from me at Hibs or anyone at Hibs, rather than a frustration that this is a place we end up at with players.

I actually still think we've got a bit to offer both Porteous and Nisbet by way of development, but I don't think they see it that way.

I totally get the frustration mate. The ones with the big money can come in and swoop for any player at any time. Thankfully, these days we'll hold out for top dollar and not make it quite so easy as in days gone by for those with the big bucks.

:aok:

[lucky]

You were right to make the point you did FWIW.

Our club is a great one and is very attractive to many players for a number of reasons.

It's certainly not a dig from me at Hibs or anyone at Hibs, rather than a frustration that this is a place we end up at with players.

I actually still think we've got a bit to offer both Porteous and Nisbet by way of development, but I don't think they see it that way.

The reality is football is a short career and players are 1 bad injury away from not getting a big move. Both RP & KN will get very good money if they move south to the championship or EPL. It’s near impossible to expect these guys to knock back moves which could see them set for life. It’s been said many times but how many of us would not move to a job that pays 8-10 times more a week? Hibs are a selling club, we get good players and sell them on. Look how many we’ve taken of St. Mirren. The reality is money talks

[JimBHibees]

Is Porteous that good on the ball? Gives it away a lot of the time

I think he is some of his decisions are questionable and probably takes too many chances at times however yes I do think he is good on the ball.

[flash]

Will be interesting to read the match threads on here I we sell RP and replace him with a centre half who can head it 40 yards and only ever kicks it the way he is facing.
You don't know what you got till it's gone as they say.

[Iain G]

Will be interesting to read the match threads on here I we sell RP and replace him with a centre half who can head it 40 yards and only ever kicks it the way he is facing.
You don't know what you got till it's gone as they say.

I keep thinking RP is Rod Petrie 🤣

[flash]

I keep thinking RP is Rod Petrie 🤣

Everyone knows you could never get anything past Petrie.

[CJHibby]

I wish nothing but the best for young Ryan if he moves on but I personally think we should be looking at a complete overhaul of our central defence for next season. Hanlon and McGregor as back up would be ideal. If a club down south are interested in Doig, a deal whereby we are loaned him for another season from a potential suitor would be fine.

[Ray_]

Will be interesting to read the match threads on here I we sell RP and replace him with a centre half who can head it 40 yards and only ever kicks it the way he is facing.
You don't know what you got till it's gone as they say.

Agreed 100%, RP would be a big loss and will be a top EPL star some day, there is not Scottish central defender I'd rather have than him.

[CJHibby]

I very much doubt Ryan becoming a top English Premiership player but would love to be proved wrong Ray.

[B.H.F.C]

Agreed 100%, RP would be a big loss and will be a top EPL star some day, there is not Scottish central defender I'd rather have than him.

He definitely had/has potential to be a really good player.

But he’s not a baby anymore. He’s a fair bit away from playing in the Premier League down south. Wasn’t even our best centre half this season.

[Ray_]

He definitely had/has potential to be a really good player.

But he’s not a baby anymore. He’s a fair bit away from playing in the Premier League down south. Wasn’t even our best centre half this season.

He has not had years and years playing in the first team and has rough edges, which are being worked on. To me his distribution sets him apart, he is not just a long cross field pass to the opposite wing, whether it was on or not, he reminds me so much of Stones as a young player at Everton.

[Brightside]

I wish nothing but the best for young Ryan if he moves on but I personally think we should be looking at a complete overhaul of our central defence for next season. Hanlon and McGregor as back up would be ideal. If a club down south are interested in Doig, a deal whereby we are loaned him for another season from a potential suitor would be fine.

Why do we need an overhaul? We let in less goals that anyone outside the old firm? We had a +13 GD. Again the only team to have a positive GD outside the old firm. So why would we need an overhaul of our central defence.

[wookie70]

He has not had years and years playing in the first team and has rough edges, which are being worked on. To me his distribution sets him apart, he is not just a long cross field pass to the opposite wing, whether it was on or not, he reminds me so much of Stones as a young player at Everton. I agree with that. Young players are most often bought on potential and RP has bags of that. He is very strong and physical for a young centre half, really confident and can also play football on the deck and see a pass. He is very young for a centre half and I think there will be clubs who are willing to take time to knock the rough edges off and if Ryan improves his decision making, which will happen with game time and experience, he will be a very good player. Not sure he will be EPL but he will end up in England at a good level

[Cod Boy]

Campbell away down south today

[Souter96Mac]

Campbell away down south today

Not so bad news if he goes down south. Would much rather that than him signing for a rival at least.

[Highwayman]

Some of the negative posts on this thread and others about Ryan Porteous are ridiculous.

IMO after the goalkeeper centre back is the most vulnerable position and mistakes can be costly,but overall I think Porteous has had a good season.

He is the best young centre half in Scotland and don’t be fooled by Gerrard at the current buns bad mouthing him,he would take him without doubt.

I think sooner rather than later Porteous will move on and it’s regrettable that we won’t see the best of him at ER.

If he makes the progress I hope he makes I can see him as a future Scotland captain.

[Mutu]

I’ve made this point on numerous occasions too and I’m glad someone else see’s it.

Whilst I do think Kerr and McCart are very good defenders and would improve us I think a lot has to be said for how they play. Start of the season they struggled massively.

Porteous has had a very good season overall despite making some howlers. But he is brave on the ball and you can see a lot of what we do comes from him taking a risk or playing a slide pass into midfield.

We also defend with McGinn and Hanlon being adventurous and when we’re in possession we’re very stretched to keep the game wide.

If you put Hanlon and Porteous in St Johnstone’s team and they were told to only defend and get the ball away at all costs they would look solid (even more solid than they have been).

St Johnstone essentially play with a back 5 and 2 sitting midfielders.

Also it’s worth noting all of our back three - McGinn, Porteous and Hanlon got called up to the national team this season. Not one of the st Johnstone defenders did

My main thing with Porteous is something I’d never thought I would associate to him and that is he appears more interested in looking good and being a ball player than actually defending. Kerr for me knows exactly what he is, he defends solidly, consistently and on the ball he is still good whilst knowing what’s too risky and what’s not.

This is an excellent observation which I think is missed a lot of the time. Yes Kerr has had a good season, but how good is he defending 1v1 / 2v2 with loads of space in behind? He'd better be because that is what will be asked of him if he gets a Hibs move. See Duffy for Celtic this as a perfect example. Ventured up north after a good season in England and was by all accounts a liability. Reason? He was often being asked to defend without adequate protection due to Celtic being an attacking side who commit bodies forward.

Porteous would be a massive loss if he were to go. Irreplaceable.

[Scottie]

Campbell away down south today
Skegness or Butlin's maybe ?

Its holiday time after all :wink:

[Cod Boy]

Skegness or Butlin's maybe ?

Its holiday time after all :wink:

Luton

[calumhibee1]

I very much doubt Ryan becoming a top English Premiership player but would love to be proved wrong Ray.

Not a chance will Porteous ever be a top English premiership player. If you’d suggested that when he broke through I maybe would have agreed.
Not now though.

[Ray_]

Not a chance will Porteous ever be a top English premiership player. If you’d suggested that when he broke through I maybe would have agreed.
Not now though.

Okay, however as my thoughts wasn't based on the need of your approval, I'll file your conclusive view accordingly.

[tonyrougier123]

Ilkay durmus left st mirren.done not too bad there.looks like heading to turkey.

[Stuart93]

Okay, however as my thoughts wasn't based on the need of your approval, I'll file your conclusive view accordingly.

He wasn’t responding to your post to be fair.

I agree though. Can’t see him playing at the top level down south. Maybe higher championship though.

Has to cut out the mistakes in his game as when he does make them they’re usually pretty costly.

[Smartie]

This is an excellent observation which I think is missed a lot of the time. Yes Kerr has had a good season, but how good is he defending 1v1 / 2v2 with loads of space in behind? He'd better be because that is what will be asked of him if he gets a Hibs move. See Duffy for Celtic this as a perfect example. Ventured up north after a good season in England and was by all accounts a liability. Reason? He was often being asked to defend without adequate protection due to Celtic being an attacking side who commit bodies forward.

Porteous would be a massive loss if he were to go. Irreplaceable.

On a separate note, I thought Jack Hendry looked really good for Scotland the other night and has done brilliantly to get his career back on track so quickly.

He's another one who looked hopeless at Celtic.

What do they do to centre-backs?

[Ray_]

He wasn’t responding to your post to be fair.

I agree though. Can’t see him playing at the top level down south. Maybe higher championship though.

Has to cut out the mistakes in his game as when he does make them they’re usually pretty costly.

Without a doubt Stuart and the one against St Johnstone was dreadful, but he is getting better and I think he will continue to do so and when we think of some of the lumps who have been considered as top prospects I believe Porteous has much more within his game and he is improving and will continue to do so.

England, like everywhere else is struggling for top class centre backs and it has been that way for the last few seasons and that will help young players with potential stake their claim and gain the experience needed to succeed at that level rather than teams being able to bring in the ready made article.

[CJHibby]

Not trying to make killer comments but Mr. Brightside, I'd prefer Hibs to have a new central defence next season..only my opinion.

[Vault Boy]

Looks like Tony Stokes might be signing for Dumbarton

[Smartie]

Without a doubt Stuart and the one against St Johnstone was dreadful, but he is getting better and I think he will continue to do so and when we think of some of the lumps who have been considered as top prospects I believe Porteous has much more within his game and he is improving and will continue to do so.

England, like everywhere else is struggling for top class centre backs and it has been that way for the last few seasons and that will help young players with potential stake their claim and gain the experience needed to succeed at that level rather than teams being able to bring in the ready made article.

I don't think he is getting better though, I think he's been getting worse.

It might be his first run of poorer form and he'd end up being a stronger player for being able to work his way through it (which I think Jack Hendry will be FWIW) but I think there's a mental issue right now.

I should add that when he first broke into the side I thought he was a major talent and he performed to a very high standard immediately, so he's dropping off from a very high level, and to a level that is still just about decent enough.

The problem with Porteous is that I think he's believed his own hype and I think that to kick on he'll need to move on somewhere else.

[SaulGoodman]

Looks like Tony Stokes might be signing for Dumbarton

Eoghan Stokes, some boy that played for Airdrie

[Ray_]

I don't think he is getting better though, I think he's been getting worse.

It might be his first run of poorer form and he'd end up being a stronger player for being able to work his way through it (which I think Jack Hendry will be FWIW) but I think there's a mental issue right now.

I should add that when he first broke into the side I thought he was a major talent and he performed to a very high standard immediately, so he's dropping off from a very high level, and to a level that is still just about decent enough.

The problem with Porteous is that I think he's believed his own hype and I think that to kick on he'll need to move on somewhere else.

He has greatly reduced the rash challenges that got him sent off and injured and yes he does take chances and that will get better as will his concentration, but the other alternative is a predictable ball out from the back all the time or passing it across the back line, from fullback to fullback and back again and we don't want to turn into hearts and just launch it.

In all honesty all the guff spoken on here doesn't mean a thing, as always, time will demonstrate one way or the other, whatever the thoughts are on the subject by our resident expert online community [myself included].

[truehibernian]

Ryan is a very good player and prospect - the word prospect is key here. Historically, a centre half only really perfects the position after a few seasons and into their mid/late 20's. A young centre half coming into the top league is always going to make errors and have inconsistency because they've made a jump from development football to being up against more seasoned and better pros. Ryan has had two bad injuries that set back his development, however this season is the first where he has put together a really good run of games in all competitions. He's impetuous - and had his head turned - which as a young player he's not had to deal with before (Scotland call up, Championship interest). That's where he has to be more concentrated and professional in my opinion. He's running before he can walk. All he needs to do, and I'm sure they do tell him, is seek advice from Lewis and Paul - two players who have not only had to work hard, but two players who have experienced highs and lows and know that winning cups don't come around easily and there will be year(s) of gaps between success. He's cocky purely down to age and inexperience. But he needs to apply and be consistent in applying the basics to his game, as well as adding that bit of sporting arrogance when it's the right time to do so.

He's a far better player than Jason Kerr. But what JK has maybe more than Ryan is a little more humility and being a bit more humble and grateful for where he is. Hibs are bigger than Ryan and always will be. He may 'outgrow' the league in performances, but he will never outgrow the club.

This season will have been an excellent learning curve for him on a number of fronts - achieving success in being part of the highest league position in years, against the lows of defeats in semi finals and the final. That's how he will develop into a great player, by using those experiences throughout his career and never being complacent. Yes, players can achieve healthy bank balances in what is a short career - but when any player looks back on their career they'll be asked, and ask themselves, what did I achieve in that time - and that's medals, wins, and caps. That's true success, but it's a long road of hard hard work to get there.

I think he'll be a top player, but he needs to remain grounded and focused and above all be consistently good in the surroundings he is in before he looks at what's ahead of him. For me he's not even in the million pound category yet - but he can and will be if he plays to his potential and learns from those around him.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

2pm announcement coming from Hibs

I'm going for Irvine extension and new strip

[ElginHibbie]

2pm announcement coming from Hibs

:hyper

[neil7908]

:hyper

Leigh!

[scoopyboy]

2pm announcement coming from Hibs

I'm going for Irvine extension and new strip

Pessimistic me says Early Bird extension.

Prefer your call though.

[ElginHibbie]

Hopefully be player related as using a "good use" gif in the tweet and then waiting 2 hours for it to then be something other than a new player or someone signing an extension would be a kick in the baws

[Souter96Mac]

2pm announcement coming from Hibs

I'm going for Irvine extension and new strip

I suspect it'll just be the new kits. Would be great alongside a wee signing though!

[Peevemor]

I doubt it's an early bird extension given that they've sent emails almost every day this week about the deadline.

[JohnM1875]

Can't see it being a signing. Surely they'd have done the stupid emoji things ✍️ if it was a signing.

Really hoping I'm wrong though!

[Rumble de Thump]

Pre-season friendly against Melchester Rovers.

[calumhibee1]

Okay, however as my thoughts wasn't based on the need of your approval, I'll file your conclusive view accordingly.

What? :confused:

I never replied to your post.

[Wheat Hound]

Alan Kernaghan being announced

[Unseen work]

Can’t see it being a signing as why would we announce that we’re announcing it at 2?

New kits maybe? Is that good news?

I’d prefer none of this tweet before the announcement.

[Brightside]

Greg Kiltie anyone? Good enough?

[Unseen work]

Greg Kiltie anyone? Good enough?

Not good enough imo, don’t think he’s even close tbf.

[calumhibee1]

Greg Kiltie anyone? Good enough?

Not for me.

[Stuart93]

Greg Kiltie anyone? Good enough?

Remember we were interested when Stubbs was here but he’s not really progressed much since

Would reek of a Drey Wright kind of signing

[SHODAN]

It'll be the new kit.

[Peevemor]

Stevie Mallan's back from Turkey!

[bingo70]

Stevie Mallan's back from Turkey!

“Just like a new signing really”

[ElginHibbie]

Lafferty turned down a deal at Killie.... :duck:

[Hibbyradge]

It's the new CEO.

A certain Mr Roderick Petrie. :agree:

[SaulGoodman]

It’s 1000% Griffiths and I’ve convinced myself so if it’s anything else I’m going to take it out on a Twitter admin

[Jones28]

New CEO?

[cabbageandribs1875]

i think it will be we're getting hot water in the toilets and disinfectant stations will be at each entrance to the stands/toilets


so use them ya mingers




or, our 248th partnership

[Bostonhibby]

i think it will be we're getting hot water in the toilets and disinfectant stations will be at each entrance to the stands/toilets


so use them ya mingers




or, our 248th partnership[emoji16]

Are we getting fried potatoes that have been cut into strips like the Jambo's announced?

If so it'll be a competition to come up with a name for them.

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[brog]

Greg Kiltie anyone? Good enough?

I've always thought both he & McKenzie had decent potential but it's never really been realised. Given we've signed 4 "wide" players in Wright, Murphy, Cadden & Mackay in last year I'm not sure that would be an area of interest for us just now. I see Killie signed Dan Armstrong from Raith, another we tracked for quite a while but again didn't really develop.

[Brightside]

Stevie Mallan's back from Turkey!

With a new stitch in hair-do. :greengrin

[SteveHFC]

It’s 1000% Griffiths and I’ve convinced myself so if it’s anything else I’m going to take it out on a Twitter admin

Anything less i’ll be returning my season ticket.

[Sean1875]

Murder Mystery nights or we riot

[Callum_62]

Murder Mystery nights or we riot[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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[Nicho87]

Bobby Mann finally signs

[SaulGoodman]

Hibernian FC are delighted to announce a new deal with official drinks partner Carabao™! From next season our loyal supporters will be able to get 6 cans of Carabao™ Green Apple for the price of 5 by showing a valid 2021/22 season ticket card at checkout! For a fruity and tasty energy drink that’s only 63 calories, choose Carabao™ #WeAreAllHibs #ThisIsOurCity .

[Greenbeard]

Murder Mystery nights or we riot
Hibs twitter admin by Mr Green in East 43 with a broken off seat back.

[JimBHibees]

I've always thought both he & McKenzie had decent potential but it's never really been realised. Given we've signed 4 "wide" players in Wright, Murphy, Cadden & Mackay in last year I'm not sure that would be an area of interest for us just now. I see Killie signed Dan Armstrong from Raith, another we tracked for quite a while but again didn't really develop.

Think Kiltie is more an attacking mid or number 10

[JimBHibees]

Hibs twitter admin by Mr Green in East 43 with a broken off seat back.

:greengrin

[Greencore]

Announce big screen

[04Sauzee]

Announce big screen

Announce big screen by showing big screen showing a film reel of Griffiths in the new Joma kit with our new multi million pound sponsor on said Joma Kit.

[Unseen work]

I feel sorry for the Hibs Twitter guy already, he’s going to get some amount of abuse come 2pm.

[BroxburnHibee]

I feel sorry for the Hibs Twitter guy already, he’s going to get some amount of abuse come 2pm.

Should just turn the replies off.

[04Sauzee]

I feel sorry for the Hibs Twitter guy already, he’s going to get some amount of abuse come 2pm.

No matter what the announcement is you are correct. Unbelievable really.

[AugustaHibs]

I feel sorry for the Hibs Twitter guy already, he’s going to get some amount of abuse come 2pm.

I don’t tbh. What football fan thinks a shirt sponsor announcement is a ‘good news day’. Have to be the only club on the planet putting a teaser out for a sponsor that 99.9% of fans don’t care about.

[SHODAN]

Hibernian FC are proud to announce the exciting news that the Early Bird Season Ticket renewal deadline has now passed! Season Tickets are now FULL PRICE!!!

[Greencore]

Announce big screen by showing big screen showing a film reel of Griffiths in the new Joma kit with our new multi million pound sponsor on said Joma Kit.
😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

[Shrekko]

No matter what the announcement is you are correct. Unbelievable really.

The abuse on our social media channels from our own fans towards the club has been utterly abhorrent recently. With all that said - whoever is controlling things at the moment just doesn't seem to be getting it right at all. Despite what people will say, it's really important to get that engagement spot on- particularly with a 'hard to please' fanbase like ours.

So I'm predicting this probably isn't going to go well at 2pm, although desperately hoping I'm wrong!

[Rumble de Thump]

Launch of Hibernian commemorative coin depicting the Duke of Edinburgh doing the 5-1.

[Greencore]

Launch of Hibernian commemorative coin depicting the Duke of Edinburgh doing the 5-1.

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Greencore]

Abuse is part and parcel of twitter.

I say we raise a go fund me for the hibs twitter admin and buy him a case of that Peruvian Cola.

[CMurdoch]

It's gonna be the new strip which will be underwhelming

[flash]

It's gonna be the new strip which will be underwhelming

How do you know? Have you seen it?

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

It's gonna be the new strip which will be underwhelming

strip/sponsor is my worry

[147lothian]

Who's making their way to the ground to raise a scarf above their head? Answers on a post card

[flash]

strip/sponsor is my worry

Worry? I am baffled. Don't you want a new strip or a sponsor?

[Unseen work]

New sponsor.

Let the abuse commence.

[SaulGoodman]

New sponsor 😂😂😂😂

[Greencore]

Worry? I am baffled. Don't you want a new strip or a sponsor?

Big screen, big giant screen!

[SHODAN]

Hahah it's not even the new kit it's just the sponsor

[ElginHibbie]

New sponsor.

Let the abuse commence.

Petrie!

[Shrekko]

The regular abusers on twitter seem delighted.

[Sean1875]

What was the need in the 2.5 hour teaser/build up for that announcement? Don’t agree with the abuse that’s getting flung at the club on social media for every post that seems to go up but Christ they don’t help themselves.


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[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Worry? I am baffled. Don't you want a new strip or a sponsor?

Do you think a 3 hr build up is necessary? given the attitude towards the club since the final and the current "disconnect" i feel "reading the room" and understanding the fanbase might've been in order

[Nicho87]

Wow.

[JohnM1875]

What was the need in the 2.5 hour teaser/build up for that announcement? Don’t agree with the abuse that’s getting flung at the club on social media for every post that seems to go up but Christ they don’t help themselves.


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Totally agree. Absolutely no point at all for the build up.

Obviously the abuse the guy/girl will get will be overboard. But so was the build up to that announcement.

[Jones28]

Do you think a 3 hr build up is necessary? given the attitude towards the club since the final and the current "disconnect" i feel "reading the room" and understanding the fanbase might've been in order

Did you worry about it though?


Twitter did also say new kit next week.

[Brightside]

Great news

[Wheat Hound]

What was the need in the 2.5 hour teaser/build up for that announcement? Don’t agree with the abuse that’s getting flung at the club on social media for every post that seems to go up but Christ they don’t help themselves.


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Exactly.

A new sponsor is good news but not exciting enough to build it up in this manner. Could've just announced it without the build up.

Hibs not reading the room again.

[500miles]

It's a really nice put together promo, and it is important that we're opening up these revenue streams again, as per Ron Gordon's vision of how we go forward as a club.

Didn't need 2 hours notice though.

[flash]

Do you think a 3 hr build up is necessary? given the attitude towards the club since the final and the current "disconnect" i feel "reading the room" and understanding the fanbase might've been in order

If I was 12 I might be bothered. Not sure I want to "read the room" when it comes to a lot of Hibs fans these days.

[GloryGlory]

What was the need in the 2.5 hour teaser/build up for that announcement? Don’t agree with the abuse that’s getting flung at the club on social media for every post that seems to go up but Christ they don’t help themselves.


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Folk complain about no social media posts, then they complain about social media posts.

[Unseen work]

Fair bit of additional money coming in from sponsors to previous years it appears.

Hopefully that will help us out with signings etc too.

[04Sauzee]

Fantastic news,good investment,nice video and the actual factual statement by Hibs is a good read.

[greenginger]

And who or what is the new sponsor, for folk that don’t do Twatter :confused:

[bingo70]

And who or what is the new sponsor, for folk that don’t do Twatter :confused:

Utilita energy.

[bingo70]

Fantastic news,good investment,nice video and the actual factual statement by Hibs is a good read.

We don’t know if it’s a good investment do we?

Six figures over 2 years doesn’t seem that much if it’s at the lower end of that amount.

The statement just read like an advert for Utilita to me, which is fine, they’ve agreed a deal to promote themselves with us and that’s just what they’ve done.

[SaulGoodman]

When you think about it we did kind of announce Sparky

[flash]

We don’t know if it’s a good investment do we?

Six figures over 2 years doesn’t seem that much if it’s at the lower end of that amount.

The statement just read like an advert for Utilita to me, which is fine, they’ve agreed a deal to promote themselves with us and that’s just what they’ve done.

FFS Bingo not you too.

[Greencore]

6 figures stretched out over 2 years would be great for a championship team.

[04Sauzee]

We don’t know if it’s a good investment do we?

Six figures over 2 years doesn’t seem that much if it’s at the lower end of that amount.

The statement just read like an advert for Utilita to me, which is fine, they’ve agreed a deal to promote themselves with us and that’s just what they’ve done.
I'm taking the 'significant investment' as being a good deal. That's the bit I focussed on.

[bingo70]

FFS Bingo not you too.

Excuse me, I like to think I’m as unreasonable as anybody on this board and I object to your suggestion I’m not.

Listen, I’m pishing myself at the over the top reaction, particularly on Twitter, I think it’s hilarious, even if it does cross the line in places.

That said, news like this, good as it was, didn’t warrant the build up it got on Twitter.

FWIW I suspect the Twitter person thinks Hibs fans are ***** and there was an element of a wind up about it and I don’t blame them for a second. The abuse that person has got recently I would do the same in their shoes.

[Hibby70]

I think they just need to stop the teaser posts. On its own it's a decent promo, just didn't need any build up to fall flat.

[bingo70]

6 figures stretched out over 2 years would be great for a championship team.

Exactly what I’m thinking.

Outdoor advertising costs an absolute fortune as I’ve found out recently when looking to get some for my business. If they’ve managed to get shirt sponsor for us for 2 years for anything close to £100k that’s a fantastic piece of business for Utilita, not Hibs.

FWIW I’m going to assume it’s close to £100k as if it was significantly more than that they would have worded it differently. Plus I feel like a moan and want to boo somebody different just now.

[greenginger]

Utilita energy.

Thanks,

Decent sized company, £ 850 million turnover, downside they made a loss due to £ 50 million in impaired debtors.

Will be worse this year.

[Brightside]

Whats all the "Why the big build up" pish. The yposted one tweet saying Good news coming at 2pm. At 2pm they posted good news. When did people become so unbelievably needy.

[CMurdoch]

u

[HFC93]

Whats all the "Why the big build up" pish. The yposted one tweet saying Good news coming at 2pm. At 2pm they posted good news. When did people become so unbelievably needy.

Spot on.

[Brightside]

Exactly what I’m thinking.

Outdoor advertising costs an absolute fortune as I’ve found out recently when looking to get some for my business. If they’ve managed to get shirt sponsor for us for 2 years for anything close to £100k that’s a fantastic piece of business for Utilita, not Hibs.

FWIW I’m going to assume it’s close to £100k as if it was significantly more than that they would have worded it differently. Plus I feel like a moan and want to boo somebody different just now.

"has invested a significant six figures"

100,000 wouldnt be significant....it would just be 6 figures.

[Stuart93]

Fair bit of additional money coming in from sponsors to previous years it appears.

Hopefully that will help us out with signings etc too.

Aye signings

Could do with one of those to get things going

[JohnM1875]

Whats all the "Why the big build up" pish. The yposted one tweet saying Good news coming at 2pm. At 2pm they posted good news. When did people become so unbelievably needy.

There is no need for any sort of build up at all though. Just announce the new sponser.

[bingo70]

"has invested a significant six figures"

100,000 wouldnt be significant....it would just be 6 figures.

They would absolutely 100% still word it as significant even if it was just the £100,000.00

I’m not wanting to get picky though, I don’t really care, as I said I think the reaction is funny.

[Brightside]

6 figures stretched out over 2 years would be great for a championship team.

You can shirt sponsor a Champ team for 20k if you want.

[bingo70]

Whats all the "Why the big build up" pish. The yposted one tweet saying Good news coming at 2pm. At 2pm they posted good news. When did people become so unbelievably needy.

I think they know by now that our support and football fans in general are a hugely unreasonable bunch. A tweet like that was designed to get people excited about something that was never going to excite people.

Twitter person has been a bit naughty there and good for them too. There’s people replying there calling them **** and all sorts. If I was the Twitter person I’d be absolutely poorless laughing at the reaction right now.

[CMurdoch]

"has invested a significant six figures"

100,000 wouldnt be significant....it would just be 6 figures.

£1,000:01
6 figures

[bingo70]

You can shirt sponsor a Champ team for 20k if you want.

Think it was going to cost me over £2k to get 3 posters in a shopping centre in Fife for about a fortnight. I would be amazed if you could sponsor a championship team for a year for £20k.

[Inconsequential]

I'm being a touch controversial here but shouldn't they have put some weedkiller down? Shocking state. :wink:

[SaulGoodman]

u

More bed wetting pish.

[CMurdoch]

More bed wetting pish.

?

[MWHIBBIES]

You'd have to be daft to be expecting a signing when there has been no rumours. Good news to have more investment, well done Hibs.

[Peevemor]

Whats all the "Why the big build up" pish. The yposted one tweet saying Good news coming at 2pm. At 2pm they posted good news. When did people become so unbelievably needy.Exactly. Why should anyone bother putting money into the club if that's the reception they're going to get?

[SaulGoodman]

?

Just a joke because the post was obviously a typo :wink:

[ChilliEater]

[emoji16]

Are we getting fried potatoes that have been cut into strips like the Jambo's announced?

If so it'll be a competition to come up with a name for them.

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Sauzee-ed Potatoes

[Brightside]

Think it was going to cost me over £2k to get 3 posters in a shopping centre in Fife for about a fortnight. I would be amazed if you could sponsor a championship team for a year for £20k.

Send me your 20k i'll sort it out. :wink:

[Smartie]

Whats all the "Why the big build up" pish. The yposted one tweet saying Good news coming at 2pm. At 2pm they posted good news. When did people become so unbelievably needy.

Exactly what I thought.

They took enough flak when we didn’t find a sponsor.

We’ve found someone prepared to give us a decent chunk of cash.

Good news they promised, good news they delivered.

[bingo70]

Exactly what I thought.

They took enough flak when we didn’t find a sponsor.

We’ve found someone prepared to give us a decent chunk of cash.

Good news they promised, good news they delivered.

Surely it’s obvious though that people aren’t annoyed at the sponsor?

Clearly good we have a sponsor when we never last season, the gripe is with how it’s been communicated.

[brog]

Whats all the "Why the big build up" pish. The yposted one tweet saying Good news coming at 2pm. At 2pm they posted good news. When did people become so unbelievably needy.

👍👍

Hibs Net reactions.
1. Why don't we have a sponsor, what does our Commercial Dept do ?
2. Why don't we publicise our sponsors properly? No wonder we can't attract major companies.
3. Why such a big build up over a new sponsor?

I genuinely believe people come on here with a desperate need to be outraged over whatever 'Our' Club might do.

[Smartie]

Surely it’s obvious though that people aren’t annoyed at the sponsor?

Clearly good we have a sponsor when we never last season, the gripe is with how it’s been communicated.

It was communicated via single tweet saying good news will be announced.

If we’d been whipped into a frenzy for weeks I might agree.

I think some of our social media stuff in recent weeks has been incredibly clumsy but I don’t think the criticism here is reasonable.

They did what they said they were going to do, and I think folk need to be more reasonable when news is announced that stops short of being the return of John McGinn.

[Saint Hibee]

At least it wasn’t us revealing Harry Cockring.

[Andy74]

Surely it’s obvious though that people aren’t annoyed at the sponsor?

Clearly good we have a sponsor when we never last season, the gripe is with how it’s been communicated.

If I’ve learned anything from certain other threads it is that if you criticise the way the message is presented then you are criticising the message itself. 😉

[SloopJB]

👍👍

Hibs Net reactions.
1. Why don't we have a sponsor, what does our Commercial Dept do ?
2. Why don't we publicise our sponsors properly? No wonder we can't attract major companies.
3. Why such a big build up over a new sponsor?

I genuinely believe people come on here with a desperate need to be outraged over whatever 'Our' Club might do.

Yep,

Hibs Crass.

[Eyrie]

No issue with the teaser tweet.

But then I'm a sensible adult rather than the hormonal idiots who just want to whine at any announcement by our club.

[ScottB]

One tweet saying there would be an announcement at 2pm, then an announcement at 2pm.

Are people genuinely upset about this? Christ. When did getting a new sponsor not count as good news? Drawing attention to the announcement is PR 101 too.

[ancient hibee]

Have school hols started early this year?

[04Sauzee]

Any transfer news 😁

[CMurdoch]

Just a joke because the post was obviously a typo :wink:

Of course it is. I'm getting slow in my old age :wink:

[Magpie]

I see Stevie Mallan saying he’s back next season. Good news.

[Peevemor]

I see Stevie Mallan saying he’s back next season. Good news.I think it could go either way.

[147lothian]

My reading of the Stevie Mallan situation is that he has said either play me or let me go out on loan so that I can play, Jack Ross has said that he didn't want him to go, anyway SM is back now and he still has a year left on his contract, personally I hope that he is in JR's plans, i recon he will be a better player for having regular game time and I've always thought that SM offers something different which is what we need IMO in the middle of the park.

[cabbageandribs1875]

[emoji16]

Are we getting fried potatoes that have been cut into strips like the Jambo's announced?

If so it'll be a competition to come up with a name for them.

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see, i was right


our 248th partnership :wink:

[Bostonhibby]

see, i was right


our 248th partnership :wink:Can we still cook fried potatoes on gas?

The future is bright.

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[truehibernian]

My reading of the Stevie Mallan situation is that he has said either play me or let me go out on loan so that I can play, Jack Ross has said that he didn't want him to go, anyway SM is back now and he still has a year left on his contract, personally I hope that he is in JR's plans, i recon he will be a better player for having regular game time and I've always thought that SM offers something different which is what we need IMO in the middle of the park.

He'll be used as makeweight for a signing I reckon.

[h1bs4life]

I agree with that. Young players are most often bought on potential and RP has bags of that. He is very strong and physical for a young centre half, really confident and can also play football on the deck and see a pass. He is very young for a centre half and I think there will be clubs who are willing to take time to knock the rough edges off and if Ryan improves his decision making, which will happen with game time and experience, he will be a very good player. Not sure he will be EPL but he will end up in England at a good level

Porteous has got bags of potential and all the right attributes to get a move to the English Championship , tall ,strong and physical with a bit of nastiness as well with some of his tackles.
Another one who's head was turned when he got the Scotland call up , a club down South will take a chance on him and with a bit of coaching and playing beside an experienced centre half they will get the best out of him.

[C_hendo04]

Barrie McKay and Declan John have both been released by Swansea

[147lothian]

He'll be used as makeweight for a signing I reckon.

SM has just had a successful 4 months in Turkey where by all accounts he has done well, if he is told he's back as a makeweight for a new signing my fear is that he will return to Turkey and continue to do well, I hope he has a good pre-season, gets a shot at the first team and we take it from there. I think he will have really benefitted from regular game time and be ready to show what he can do.

[Stuart93]

SM has just had a successful 4 months in Turkey where by all accounts he has done well, if he is told he's back as a makeweight for a new signing my fear is that he will return to Turkey and continue to do well, I hope he has a good pre-season, gets a shot at the first team and we take it from there. I think he will have really benefitted from regular game time and be ready to show what he can do.

The thing is he’s had plenty chances now to show what he can do, ample in fact. Anytime he’s had a run of games in the team he’s been dropped back to the bench. I wouldn’t be against trying him in behind the strikers but I don’t reckon he’s going to get anymore time.

The Turkish team had an option to buy at the end of the loan but not seen anything about them taking up that option.

[northstandhibby]

The thing is he’s had plenty chances now to show what he can do, ample in fact. Anytime he’s had a run of games in the team he’s been dropped back to the bench. I wouldn’t be against trying him in behind the strikers but I don’t reckon he’s going to get anymore time.

Might make a huge difference for Stevie playing in a midfield including Gogic and Irvine - (please). He has a different skillset to those two industrious ball winners and players like Stevie and Scott Allan can often thrive when playing alongside/off excellent big guy ball-winners.

[Stuart93]

Might make a huge difference for Stevie playing in a midfield including Gogic and Irvine - (please). He has a different skillset to those two industrious ball winners and players like Stevie and Scott Allan can often thrive when playing alongside/off excellent big guy ball-winners.

Aye as I said I wouldn’t be against giving him another chance in his preferred position behind the strikers but I’m not sure I can see it happening. Reckon he’ll be moved on this summer.

[JimBHibees]

He'll be used as makeweight for a signing I reckon.

Absolutely

[JimBHibees]

You'd have to be daft to be expecting a signing when there has been no rumours. Good news to have more investment, well done Hibs.

Yep nothing but good news. Obviously an issue for some that clearly hate Hibs

[northstandhibby]

Aye as I said I wouldn’t be against giving him another chance in his preferred position behind the strikers but I’m not sure I can see it happening. Reckon he’ll be moved on this summer.

Certainly every chance that might happen. If he does show enough to Jack Ross that he can become a consistent key player then he of course deserves a fresh second chance start. If not hope he does well elsewhere.

[madhatter]

Yep nothing but good news. Obviously an issue for some that clearly hate Hibs

It isn’t nothing but good news though, is it? This was early bird deadline day, and whether you agree with them or not, some people will be put off renewing due to this type of stuff. “We’re a football club” and other such stuff will be prevalent.

People have debated on here what constitutes “big matches”. Rightly so I’d like people to tell me what constitutes a “big announcement”, one worthy of a cliffhanger. I wouldn’t expect a tweet telling me of a future tweet telling me of hot water in the loos. I wasn’t expecting a teaser tweet about that today either.

Sometimes it feels like we shoot ourselves in the foot while trying to build momentum. I expect ST sales will be slower now anyway but don’t underestimate impact of silly teaser tweets like this, we are still unsure whether we will be in grounds yet and club are asking fans for renewals. Recent tweets added to this suggests there is trolling going on.

Should we do teaser tweets for everything or just the “big” things? I’d have thought intrinsic football news, such as player signings or contract renewals would be teaser material for a football club.

[04Sauzee]

It isn’t nothing but good news though, is it? This was early bird deadline day, and whether you agree with them or not, some people will be put off renewing due to this type of stuff. “We’re a football club” and other such stuff will be prevalent.

People have debated on here what constitutes “big matches”. Rightly so I’d like people to tell me what constitutes a “big announcement”, one worthy of a cliffhanger. I wouldn’t expect a tweet telling me of a future tweet telling me of hot water in the loos. I wasn’t expecting a teaser tweet about that today either.

Sometimes it feels like we shoot ourselves in the foot while trying to build momentum. I expect ST sales will be slower now anyway but don’t underestimate impact of silly teaser tweets like this, we are still unsure whether we will be in grounds yet and club are asking fans for renewals. Recent tweets added to this suggests there is trolling going on.

Should we do teaser tweets for everything or just the “big” things? I’d have thought intrinsic football news, such as player signings or contract renewals would be teaser material for a football club.

People will be put of renewing their season ticket today because of how we engaged with fans on twitter regarding a new front of shirt sponsor and investment?

[madhatter]

People will be put of renewing their season ticket today because of how we engaged with fans on twitter regarding a new front of shirt sponsor and investment?

Fairly simply concept really.

COVID is still around so may not be in grounds again.
Season ticket costs approx £400 for single adult.
Hibs lost cup final to St Johnstone.
HibsTV with Tanner hasn’t gone down well at all.
Social media engagement has been poor for last few months, not just single tweet.

I’d be surprised if anybody decided in either direction based on a single tweet. If you’ve had a bad day, hated HibsTV with Tanner, still annoyed at the St Johnstone loss and then heard about this sponsor tweet 2nd hand, I can quite quickly see why you may not renew during COVID times. It’s cumulative, it might not be this one but may be next one.

I mean, what engagement in the last 18 months have fans got from the club other than what you describe? Tweets, website articles and HibsTV with Tanner. COVID makes these engagements more important. Getting them right especially on ST renewal cycle and on early bird deadline day is important.

[Brightside]

People will be put of renewing their season ticket today because of how we engaged with fans on twitter regarding a new front of shirt sponsor and investment?

Can you imagine.

[bigwheel]

Fairly simply concept really.

COVID is still around so may not be in grounds again.
Season ticket costs approx £400 for single adult.
Hibs lost cup final to St Johnstone.
HibsTV with Tanner hasn’t gone down well at all.
Social media engagement has been poor for last few months, not just single tweet.

I’d be surprised if anybody decided in either direction based on a single tweet. If you’ve had a bad day, hated HibsTV with Tanner, still annoyed at the St Johnstone loss and then heard about this sponsor tweet 2nd hand, I can quite quickly see why you may not renew during COVID times. It’s cumulative, it might not be this one but may be next one.

I mean, what engagement in the last 18 months have fans got from the club other than what you describe? Tweets, website articles and HibsTV with Tanner. COVID makes these engagements more important. Getting them right especially on ST renewal cycle and on early bird deadline day is important.

Honestly, there is nothing in that that will make someone renew or not renew……


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[Brooster]

What do people gain from being outraged at good, positive Hibs news (and tweets). I can't get my head round it.

[JimBHibees]

It isn’t nothing but good news though, is it? This was early bird deadline day, and whether you agree with them or not, some people will be put off renewing due to this type of stuff. “We’re a football club” and other such stuff will be prevalent.

People have debated on here what constitutes “big matches”. Rightly so I’d like people to tell me what constitutes a “big announcement”, one worthy of a cliffhanger. I wouldn’t expect a tweet telling me of a future tweet telling me of hot water in the loos. I wasn’t expecting a teaser tweet about that today either.

Sometimes it feels like we shoot ourselves in the foot while trying to build momentum. I expect ST sales will be slower now anyway but don’t underestimate impact of silly teaser tweets like this, we are still unsure whether we will be in grounds yet and club are asking fans for renewals. Recent tweets added to this suggests there is trolling going on.

Should we do teaser tweets for everything or just the “big” things? I’d have thought intrinsic football news, such as player signings or contract renewals would be teaser material for a football club.

Spoke with my son about it after news of the announcement and we both agreed unlikely to be a signing more likely new kit or sponsor. Didn't really ruin my day to be honest :greengrin and if people don't buy a season ticket on the back of this very bizarre behaviour imo.

[JimBHibees]

What do people gain from being outraged at good, positive Hibs news (and tweets). I can't get my head round it.

Indeed very strange

[Souter96Mac]

Barrie McKay and Declan John have both been released by Swansea

Would take both of them, but suspect they will have bigger clubs after them

[bigwheel]

What do people gain from being outraged at good, positive Hibs news (and tweets). I can't get my head round it.

Honestly think some people, triggered by social media, must spend their time looking for things to disagree with or be outraged about….what a waste of time in people’s lives…imagine when they are older, will any of them be happy they spent their energy on nonsense like that ??


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[Since90+2]

Mallan won't be here next season.

[bigwheel]

Mallan won't be here next season.

He needs to move on.Ross has decided he isn’t a regular starter….may as well try to replace him with someone who could be


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[Lancs Harp]

Would take both of them, but suspect they will have bigger clubs after them

Both not really figured for Swansea this season, John was on loan at Bolton and McKay at Fleetwood.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Some people just look for any angle to be angry and tell the world how angry they are. Very odd.

[Greenbeard]

Some people just look for any angle to be angry and tell the world how angry they are. Very odd.
What's the point of a post like that? I come on the thread to read about possible transfer news and all I get is you moaning. Makes my blood boil. :grr: :wink:

[Highwayman]

Have always rated Stevie Mallan,but felt it was managerial speak from JR to cover all his bases when he said he didn’t want him to go out on loan.

Not sure JR knows what to do to get the best out of Mallan and on that basis think Mallans time has come and gone at ER.

[GreenCastle]

Have always rated Stevie Mallan,but felt it was managerial speak from JR to cover all his bases when he said he didn’t want him to go out on loan.

Not sure JR knows what to do to get the best out of Mallan and on that basis think Mallans time has come and gone at ER.

You just know if Mallan goes to another Scottish club he will end up scoring against us.

Personally would keep him as a squad player but not sure he would want that.

Goals / assist from midfield are an issue though so if he leaves we need to replace.

[MWHIBBIES]

Have always rated Stevie Mallan,but felt it was managerial speak from JR to cover all his bases when he said he didn’t want him to go out on loan.

Not sure JR knows what to do to get the best out of Mallan and on that basis think Mallans time has come and gone at ER.

Best football of Mallans career was under Jack ross. He just isn't good enough for this level.

[Eyrie]

I can't see Mallan being here next season simply because of the number of midfielders that we have who would be ahead of him.

Gogic, Newell, Magennis, Allan, and Hallberg all play centrally, Cadden can fill in there and Murphy can play in the 10 role. We've also made an offer to Irvine.

Mallan doesn't have the pace, skillset or stamina to play wide where we have Boyle, Murphy, Cadden, Mackay, Bradley and Wright.

Moving on makes sense for Mallan because he won't get much playing time and makes sense for us because he'll be on too high a wage for someone who gets the occasional substitute appearance.

[GreenCastle]

I can't see Mallan being here next season simply because of the number of midfielders that we have who would be ahead of him.

Gogic, Newell, Magennis, Allan, and Hallberg all play centrally, Cadden can fill in there and Murphy can play in the 10 role. We've also made an offer to Irvine.

Mallan doesn't have the pace, skillset or stamina to play wide where we have Boyle, Murphy, Cadden, Mackay, Bradley and Wright.

Moving on makes sense for Mallan because he won't get much playing time and makes sense for us because he'll be on too high a wage for someone who gets the occasional substitute appearance.

Will be pretty surprised if Hallberg doesn’t move on. Seems he wasn’t happy being dropped for the final. Hence the leaks in media during the cup final build up.

Magennis / Allan / Murphy / Wright and Mallan all need to contribute more. That’s 5 players on paper should be doing well regularly but haven’t done anywhere near enough for various reasons.

Boyle / Gogic and possibly Newel were our most consistent performers in midfield but we need to improve this area with quality and depth / consistency plus the left wing area which I assume Mackay will be an option - though young and you would expect him to maybe be used in rotation with Murphy.

[Hibee Mac]

I think the majority of fans are now onboard that Mallan is not good enough for Hibs. His lack of physicality is the key attribute which lets him down.

He will not be a starter for us next season, and Jack Ross knows that. I hope we can get some money for him to try and make back some of whatever we invested in him, I can't see him going to another Premiership side either for the same reasons as above.

I see him signing for a championship side that has aspirations to get the the Premiership.

[madhatter]

Spoke with my son about it after news of the announcement and we both agreed unlikely to be a signing more likely new kit or sponsor. Didn't really ruin my day to be honest :greengrin and if people don't buy a season ticket on the back of this very bizarre behaviour imo.

Human behaviour analysis based on case study of you and your son…

I’m making the point some people may have had a bad day before the tweet. May have had a bad time through COVID, may still be hurting from the St Johnstone loss. The fact it has been debated shows it’s had a negative reception from some.

I’ve renewed my ST btw, did so after the tweet. However, I try not view any behaviour that doesn’t match my own as very bizarre. Hopefully everyone else had an equally awesome Friday as yourself. Abuse is unacceptable but people thinking “oh go away Hibs, I need peace from you” is still understandable.

We want player rumours and the Euros to start.

[PatHead]

I think the majority of fans are now onboard that Mallan is not good enough for Hibs. His lack of physicality is the key attribute which lets him down.

He will not be a starter for us next season, and Jack Ross knows that. I hope we can get some money for him to try and make back some of whatever we invested in him, I can't see him going to another Premiership side either for the same reasons as above.

I see him signing for a championship side that has aspirations to get the the Premiership.

Don't agree. I think that the majority of fans would quite happily have the Mallan from his first season with us. Was he not player of the season?
He offers something we don't have but you would have to choose between him and Scott Allan to have the balance in midfield. We don't know how well Scott will come back from his illness long term.
I think that there is a chance Hallberg, Drey Wright, Irvine and Boyle could all be away. Mallan takes a very good long ball and I am certainly not onboard with you in moving him on.
We could have a lot of places in the squad to fill and would be best not to rush into anything.

[Greenbeard]

Don't agree. I think that the majority of fans would quite happily have the Mallan from his first season with us. Was he not player of the season?
He offers something we don't have but you would have to choose between him and Scott Allan to have the balance in midfield. We don't know how well Scott will come back from his illness long term.
I think that there is a chance Hallberg, Drey Wright, Irvine and Boyle could all be away. Mallan takes a very good long ball and I am certainly not onboard with you in moving him on.
We could have a lot of places in the squad to fill and would be best not to rush into anything.
I'd rather Mallan was taking our set-pieces and corners than Newell/Boyle. Sill not sure though how he best fits in to the team overall.

[147lothian]

I think the majority of fans are now onboard that Mallan is not good enough for Hibs. His lack of physicality is the key attribute which lets him down.

He will not be a starter for us next season, and Jack Ross knows that. I hope we can get some money for him to try and make back some of whatever we invested in him, I can't see him going to another Premiership side either for the same reasons as above.

I see him signing for a championship side that has aspirations to get the the Premiership.

I don't agree, I think Mallan will have benefitted from his 4 months in Turkey and be ready to play just behind the strikers, this position should be either Mallan or Scott Allan's and due to SA's long term injury concern I can see Mallan taking this role, with SA coming from the bench until he gets back to full fitness.

[PatHead]

I'd rather Mallan was taking our set-pieces and corners than Newell/Boyle. Sill not sure though how he best fits in to the team overall.

I feel the same as you and feel we need to see what balance is in the squad once it becomes clear who is leaving

[Hibby70]

I'd rather Mallan was taking our set-pieces and corners than Newell/Boyle. Sill not sure though how he best fits in to the team overall.

Won't Leigh be taking them though?

[500miles]

I think Mallan will go to an decent spfl team and be thier main man. They'll build a team around him, hard workers to cover his flaws, and he'll get double figures goals and assists.

[blackpoolhibs]

What do people gain from being outraged at good, positive Hibs news (and tweets). I can't get my head round it.
Some people want to be entirely negative, and places like this and twatter give them that platform to do so.

I often wonder what this place and the rest of social media would have been like during the mercer time, and when we were really sheite year after year after the tornadoes.

[Key West]

I think Mallan will go to an decent spfl team and be thier main man. They'll build a team around him, hard workers to cover his flaws, and he'll get double figures goals and assists.

I think you may be right.

[Peevemor]

Mallan's biggest problem is that he can't tackle. At all! He's not frightened to get involved, but he invariably mistimes things and gets booked, leaving him on dodgy ground for the rest of the match.

[madhatter]

Some people want to be entirely negative, and places like this and twatter give them that platform to do so.

I often wonder what this place and the rest of social media would have been like during the mercer time, and when we were really sheite year after year after the tornadoes.

People being negative about people’s negativity is quite ironic tbh. It’s becoming increasingly clear that people struggle to see a perspective outside of their own.

Would being negative get such a bad rep if we’re dealing with depressed people venting on a fans forum? Where do these “some people” go if they can’t vent (without abuse) on a fans forum?

Very ironic that I’ve seen negative posters called every name possible, pointed out as a serial negative person and told to F off and stop supporting Hibs. Some people’s positive support of Hibs is rather negative towards the fan base we’re trying to grow…

[jacomo]

I think the majority of fans are now onboard that Mallan is not good enough for Hibs. His lack of physicality is the key attribute which lets him down.

He will not be a starter for us next season, and Jack Ross knows that. I hope we can get some money for him to try and make back some of whatever we invested in him, I can't see him going to another Premiership side either for the same reasons as above.

I see him signing for a championship side that has aspirations to get the the Premiership.


I like Stevie although agree it’s looking unlikely he will be part of things next season.

The way things are going, he will probably sign for St Johnstone and tear us a new one next time we play them.

If Mallan goes, and Scotty, and Irvine doesn’t sign a new contract then our midfield looks all graft and not enough craft. Where does the creativity come from?

[Bradford]

People being negative about people’s negativity is quite ironic tbh. It’s becoming increasingly clear that people struggle to see a perspective outside of their own.

Would being negative get such a bad rep if we’re dealing with depressed people venting on a fans forum? Where do these “some people” go if they can’t vent (without abuse) on a fans forum?

Very ironic that I’ve seen negative posters called every name possible, pointed out as a serial negative person and told to F off and stop supporting Hibs. Some people’s positive support of Hibs is rather negative towards the fan base we’re trying to grow…

I do not post very often here but I must say that your second sentence absolutely nails it as far as things are life wise as well as on this forum. I shall follow you now to see what other sage comments you make in future posts.

[SHODAN]

I think Mallan will go to an decent spfl team and be thier main man. They'll build a team around him, hard workers to cover his flaws, and he'll get double figures goals and assists.

Aye, St Johnstone.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Mallan's biggest problem is that he can't tackle. At all! He's not frightened to get involved, but he invariably mistimes things and gets booked, leaving him on dodgy ground for the rest of the match.

Mallan's biggest problem is he's not an outright CM, not a winger, not an attacking midfielder (because he lacks game intelligence)

He's exactly the same as one of those players you only play for their long throws, like Delap at Stoke. Except his right foot is the threat.

[AgentDaleCooper]

People being negative about people’s negativity is quite ironic tbh. It’s becoming increasingly clear that people struggle to see a perspective outside of their own.

Would being negative get such a bad rep if we’re dealing with depressed people venting on a fans forum? Where do these “some people” go if they can’t vent (without abuse) on a fans forum?

Very ironic that I’ve seen negative posters called every name possible, pointed out as a serial negative person and told to F off and stop supporting Hibs. Some people’s positive support of Hibs is rather negative towards the fan base we’re trying to grow…

What if the people posting negatively about negative posts are also doing so because they are depressed? Don't they need to vent too?

This genuinely might be the case with me sometimes, but i'm not using it as a justification, more to demonstrate that your point is a non-argument.

There is a simple fact that i keep coming back to - our support, and it's capacity for turning negative, has been weaponised against us in the past by other teams. Another team's manager (i think it was tommy wright) explicitly stated in a post-match interview that he set out his team to exploit this, and it worked.

If people are unwilling to reflect on this, i'd personally rather they buggered off and stopped helping our opponents...but fortunately for them, my preferences are of precisely zero significance, so they needn't worry :aok:

[Bangkok Hibby]

What's the point of a post like that? I come on the thread to read about possible transfer news and all I get is you moaning. Makes my blood boil. :grr: :wink:

😂😂😂

[brog]

All of our back 4 scored at least as many league goals as our top scoring midfield player last season. Regardless of Mallan's perceived failings I dont think there's any doubt he would have provided much more of a goal threat than our regular starters. I dont think you can play both Mallan & Allan together but i could see them alternating as starter & sub.

[blackpoolhibs]

People being negative about people’s negativity is quite ironic tbh. It’s becoming increasingly clear that people struggle to see a perspective outside of their own.

Would being negative get such a bad rep if we’re dealing with depressed people venting on a fans forum? Where do these “some people” go if they can’t vent (without abuse) on a fans forum?

Very ironic that I’ve seen negative posters called every name possible, pointed out as a serial negative person and told to F off and stop supporting Hibs. Some people’s positive support of Hibs is rather negative towards the fan base we’re trying to grow…
Christ there's being negative and there's being negative. The same folk drag every thread they comment on into a negative borefest.

Nobody is more negative than me when the time is right, but when in every point you want to argue, we've made progress yet it's still not enough unless we win something, well a lot of people are going to be depressed a very long time.

Instead of looking at the bigger picture, we have a lot of folk who cant let go any bad result we have to bring every thread down to their negativity.

If folk are depressed, then seek help a football forum where happiness is is probably not for them.

We are on an upward curve, my god we've had enough of the other option, if you cant be happy now watching Hibs build from a solid base, you never will be.