Summer 2021-22 transfer thread

[Key West]

Could our partnership with Brighton not be helpful in acquiring a centre back for the time being?

[Northernhibee]

By the same token, there's absolutely zero guarantees that he'd be pish. Just playing devils advocate

But by that reckoning there's an argument for signing literally anyone.

We're being offered a player who has not played much at all in recent years, has fallen out of favour, is past his peak, has fallen out of the international team in favour of our player that we have under contract and also there are big question marks over his fitness, commitment and has also found himself in trouble off the pitch on a few occasions before.

Take the name Leigh Griffiths away for just now - there's literally no way in hell we'd sign a player with that profile otherwise. It's insulting to think that we might consider a lowball offer for a talented young striker like Nisbet and accept their deadwood.

[Unseen work]

I got told yesterday we were interested in Itten at Rangers but never took much notice of it.

If we were to sell Nisbet for a decent amount plus get Griffiths and Itten it wouldn’t be the worst.

The thing is we could get 5 million for Nisbet but who do you bring in?

I’m not convinced I want Griffiths but I always think he’s dangerous when he’s on the pitch.

[Magpie]

I got told yesterday we were interested in Itten at Rangers but never took much notice of it.

If we were to sell Nisbet for a decent amount plus get Griffiths and Itten it wouldn’t be the worst.

The thing is we could get 5 million for Nisbet but who do you bring in?

I’m not convinced I want Griffiths but I always think he’s dangerous when he’s on the pitch.

Griffiths would score double figures for us. I really wanted him back before he signed the new deal at Celtic but after his recent incident perhaps there is just too much baggage there.

[The Captain....]

Can't see Celtic bidding anywhere near what we'd want - even if that included a Leigh Griffiths with a chronic recurring calf injury (personally I wouldnt want Griffiths back under any circumstances)

Id imagine Nisbet would want to go tho so it could potentially get a bit messy if this is Celtic's opening salvo in using the media to unsettle the player.

Id hope we get some interest from down South where the wages would blow any Celtic offer out the water if its worst case scenario and he leaves in this window.

[04Sauzee]

I got told yesterday we were interested in Itten at Rangers but never took much notice of it.

If we were to sell Nisbet for a decent amount plus get Griffiths and Itten it wouldn’t be the worst.

The thing is we could get 5 million for Nisbet but who do you bring in?

I’m not convinced I want Griffiths but I always think he’s dangerous when he’s on the pitch.

Im guessing Itten would be a loan deal. Struggling to get game time for Rangers and hasn't scored many goals. I'd really hope we could get a decent permanent signing.

What's the name of the young guy who used to play for Rangers and is at Plymouth or something how's he getting on always thought he looked decent

[Torto7]

I got told yesterday we were interested in Itten at Rangers but never took much notice of it.

If we were to sell Nisbet for a decent amount plus get Griffiths and Itten it wouldn’t be the worst.

The thing is we could get 5 million for Nisbet but who do you bring in?

I’m not convinced I want Griffiths but I always think he’s dangerous when he’s on the pitch.

Itten would be a loan(Katic discussed as well). I mentioned him earlier. Both the huns and Smelltic registered an interest in Nisbet at the start of the window. Both are based on Edourd and Morelos getting punted. Which should happen before the window shuts. They know our price and its more than what Brown went for. Thats from a well known agent.

[hibbydog]

But by that reckoning there's an argument for signing literally anyone.

We're being offered a player who has not played much at all in recent years, has fallen out of favour, is past his peak, has fallen out of the international team in favour of our player that we have under contract and also there are big question marks over his fitness, commitment and has also found himself in trouble off the pitch on a few occasions before.

Take the name Leigh Griffiths away for just now - there's literally no way in hell we'd sign a player with that profile otherwise. It's insulting to think that we might consider a lowball offer for a talented young striker like Nisbet and accept their deadwood.

Agree with all of this.

I don’t want Griffiths anywhere near a Hibs strip. Great player 5 years ago. Best we concentrate on keeping Nisbet, who’s worth will keep going up and up.

[CMurdoch]

I got told yesterday we were interested in Itten at Rangers but never took much notice of it.

If we were to sell Nisbet for a decent amount plus get Griffiths and Itten it wouldn’t be the worst.

The thing is we could get 5 million for Nisbet but who do you bring in?

I’m not convinced I want Griffiths but I always think he’s dangerous when he’s on the pitch.

and off the pitch.
Dangerous to know.
Just dangerous.

[JimBHibees]

Im guessing Itten would be a loan deal. Struggling to get game time for Rangers and hasn't scored many goals. I'd really hope we could get a decent permanent signing.

What's the name of the young guy who used to play for Rangers and is at Plymouth or something how's he getting on always thought he looked decent

Ryan Hardie yes think he is a decent striker. Scored a few this season already. Good movement and an eye for goal.

[Iggy Pope]

Except Wotherspoon and Booth are both in their 30s. McCart has already achieved what he has and he done that before he turned 24. Put it this way, I don't think it can be argued that he isn't a better player than Hanlon was at the same age.

Middleton I think has great potential, as he has shown under Davidson, and could have been a player for us.

Bit ageist that.
And if Paul Hanlon had moved away from Hibs at 24 we would have been screaming on here. That can’t be argued.

[CMurdoch]

Im guessing Itten would be a loan deal. Struggling to get game time for Rangers and hasn't scored many goals. I'd really hope we could get a decent permanent signing.

What's the name of the young guy who used to play for Rangers and is at Plymouth or something how's he getting on always thought he looked decent

Hardie
Saw him score a goal on the highlights programme presented by Colin Murray last week(?)

[04Sauzee]

Hardie
Saw him score a goal on the highlights programme presented by Colin Murray last week(?)

That's the boy seen him play on loan up here a few season back and looked like he had something about him.

[CMurdoch]

That's the boy seen him play on loan up here a few season back and looked like he had something about him.

Yeah, did well on loan at Livingston

[Brightside]

Was Traore as central to his team winning those competitions as McCart was to St Johnstone?

It's a fantastic achievement what he done last season. If we'd won both cups last season we'd, quite rightly, be lauding Hanlon and Porteous as two of the best centre halfs in the league. We never though, we lost, in both competitions to McCart and St Johnstone. To me that says something about the lads ability and his character.

Number of tackles, interceptions, %age of balls won, passing completed..... thats what tells you about a defenders ability. Not the results of the team he was in.

[brog]

Did Hanlon not spent the next 3 years after he turned 24 playing in Scotland's second tier? McCart is winning both cups in the same year then drawing away in Europe to Galatasary.

If the scripts were flipped we wouldn't even be having the conversation. I get people are biased towards their own players, I'm guilty of it too at times, but there's definitely a large portion of that going on here.

I like McCart but you keep moving the goalposts to support your argument. You said it was unargueable that McCart is a better player now than Hanlon was at that age. When I pointed out that facts suggest otherwise you suddenly want to talk about PH's career in the following 3 years. You selectively mention St J drawing away to 10 man Galatasary but don't mention the 4 goals conceded at home. As i said I like McCart and would be happy to have him at ER but any objective assessment of their records up to age 24 would have PH well ahead.

[Since90+2]

Bit ageist that.
And if Paul Hanlon had moved away from Hibs at 24 we would have been screaming on here. That can’t be argued.

You might have been.

There'd also have been plenty of folk happy to see him go and some who were not fussed either way or were indifferent to it (I suspect they'd have been in the majority at that time).

If you believe the majority of Hibs fans would have been apoplectic at Hanlon leaving at 24 then , respectively, I don't think you quite have your finger on the pulse of fans opinions on him back then.

[Lago]

Actually if Celtic want to give us a striker I’d rather have Ajeti even just on loan than Griffiths
Based on today's score you wonder if they really want or interested in KN

[Since90+2]

I like McCart but you keep moving the goalposts to support your argument. You said it was unargueable that McCart is a better player now than Hanlon was at that age. When I pointed out that facts suggest otherwise you suddenly want to talk about PH's career in the following 3 years. You selectively mention St J drawing away to 10 man Galatasary but don't mention the 4 goals conceded at home. As i said I like McCart and would be happy to have him at ER but any objective assessment of their records up to age 24 would have PH well ahead.

Sorry but that's nonsense. Your "facts" are that he was a better player at 24 is because he had more Scotland under 21 caps?

Hanlon has about 3 times as many under 21 caps than John McGinn. If that's your basis for a "fact" then he's also a better player than McGinn.

[Mr. Wonderful]

But by that reckoning there's an argument for signing literally anyone.

We're being offered a player who has not played much at all in recent years, has fallen out of favour, is past his peak, has fallen out of the international team in favour of our player that we have under contract and also there are big question marks over his fitness, commitment and has also found himself in trouble off the pitch on a few occasions before.

Take the name Leigh Griffiths away for just now - there's literally no way in hell we'd sign a player with that profile otherwise. It's insulting to think that we might consider a lowball offer for a talented young striker like Nisbet and accept their deadwood.

My point is 'by that reckoning' there's just as much chance of him being a huge success as there is him being a dismal failure.

A half fit Griffiths would score 20 a season for us. Absolutely no doubt about it and I know that because he wasn't exactly a model professional the last time.

[aljo7-0]

Based on today's score you wonder if they really want or interested in KN

I could believe they still are, good Scottish striker who will get better and they would likely sell on at a profit and weaken a team potentially competing for 2nd/3rd spot

[Iggy Pope]

You might have been.

There'd also have been plenty of folk happy to see him go and some who were not fussed either way or were indifferent to it (I suspect they'd have been in the majority at that time).

If you believe the majority of Hibs fans would have been apoplectic at Hanlon leaving at 24 then , respectively, I don't think you quite have your finger on the pulse of fans opinions on him back then.

Suspect whatever you think and be assured my finger is exactly where it needs to be my friend. We would have had outrage. And when he was 24 we were at a very, very low ebb. You’ll remember that.

[JimBHibees]

My point is 'by that reckoning' there's just as much chance of him being a huge success as there is him being a dismal failure.

A half fit Griffiths would score 20 a season for us. Absolutely no doubt about it and I know that because he wasn't exactly a model professional the last time.

Apart from his well publicised issues he has also been injured a lot. You would want to think he would be fit and raring to go however that wouldn't be certain.

[Magpie]

Based on today's score you wonder if they really want or interested in KN

Edouard very likely to leave and Griffiths not in the picture. They will need another striker. I did read they were linked with a guy from Holland though.

[Northernhibee]

My point is 'by that reckoning' there's just as much chance of him being a huge success as there is him being a dismal failure.

A half fit Griffiths would score 20 a season for us. Absolutely no doubt about it and I know that because he wasn't exactly a model professional the last time.

A half fit Griffiths in 2021 wouldn't get into our team. As a club we demand higher standards than that and Jack Ross wouldn't accept it.

[JimBHibees]

A half fit Griffiths in 2021 wouldn't get into our team. As a club we demand higher standards than that and Jack Ross wouldn't accept it.

He would be an excellent guy to bring on with 20 to go when needing a goal though.

[easty]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I'm not sure you can say Hanlon is "easily better". McCart by the age of 23 had already won both the Scottish and League cups and is an integral part of the team that won those honours.

Chris Kane has more Scottish Cups than Doidge.

Glenn Middleton more than Nisbet.

Doesn’t mean they’re better players.

[WhileTheChief..]

The Doig chat has completely dried up and there's been no mention of Porteous going anywhere, so it looks like Nisbett is the only one we might lose.

Would be great if RG just says nah, we're keeping him, we can talk next year.

[ElginHibbie]

He would be an excellent guy to bring on with 20 to go when needing a goal though.

He would be, but his wage demands would be that of a player we would expecting to be playing 90 minutes every week

[Northernhibee]

He would be an excellent guy to bring on with 20 to go when needing a goal though.

Would be better to have a striker who could play a full ninety, score goals and not have an attitude that allows him to just be half fit.

[bigwheel]

Chris Kane has more Scottish Cups than Doidge.

Glenn Middleton more than Nisbet.

Doesn’t mean they’re better players.

Yeah. Agreed - That was a poor argument for McCart. I don’t think the McCart v Hanlon debate is crucial. He’s young, with lots of development to come. Also I think Ross would like more options for three at the back.

[easty]

Sorry but that's nonsense. Your "facts" are that he was a better player at 24 is because he had more Scotland under 21 caps?

Hanlon has about 3 times as many under 21 caps than John McGinn. If that's your basis for a "fact" then he's also a better player than McGinn.

The point is, you’re using pointless “facts” to make out McCart is better than Hanlon.

Hanlon was better than McCart at all ages, he’s still better than him now. It’s all about opinions. But mines is right here.

[JimBHibees]

He would be, but his wage demands would be that of a player we would expecting to be playing 90 minutes every week

You would hope that would come the more he played.

[easty]

Yeah. Agreed - That was a poor argument for McCart. I don’t think the McCart v Hanlon debate is crucial. He’s young, with lots of development to come. Also I think Ross would like more options for three at the back.

We definitely need another centre half.

McCart is ok. We could end up with much worse, he’s at least proven at SPL level. Kerr is far better though.

I genuinely believe if we bring in McCart, he’d be third choice behind PH and RP.

[JimBHibees]

Would be better to have a striker who could play a full ninety, score goals and not have an attitude that allows him to just be half fit.

You would yes. Not sure many have his goal threat or finishing ability but who knows how it will end up.

[bigwheel]

We definitely need another centre half.

McCart is ok. We could end up with much worse, he’s at least proven at SPL level. Kerr is far better though.

I genuinely believe if we bring in McCart, he’d be third choice behind PH and RP.

Think Kerr is beyond us now ..I agree, on McCart (for now) but JR will love having a quality alternative

[ElginHibbie]

You would hope that would come the more he played.

Again, for the money we'd need to pay hope isn't good enough, with losing Nisbet and Doidge being out we'd need someone who could hit the ground running and be reliable, to me that ain't Griffiths

[JimBHibees]

Again, for the money we'd need to pay hope isn't good enough, with losing Nisbet and Doidge being out we'd need someone who could hit the ground running and be reliable, to me that ain't Griffiths

No doubt there is a call to be made however we would look pretty silly he goes to Aberdeen and he cracks 20 goals in which he is more than capable of doing.

[Iggy Pope]

No doubt there is a call to be made however we would look pretty silly he goes to Aberdeen and he cracks 20 goals in which he is more than capable of doing.

True. Who at Aberdeen are Celtic targeting in this situation?

[Glory Lurker]

If we sell Nisbet and Griffiths is part of the deal, it's a bad deal. After us facing down the winter interest in Porto and Nisbet, and whatever was on the table for Doig, I'd like to think that we'll happily tell Celtc to bolt if they don't pay top dollar.

[Since90+2]

The point is, you’re using pointless “facts” to make out McCart is better than Hanlon.

Hanlon was better than McCart at all ages, he’s still better than him now. It’s all about opinions. But mines is right here.

You've actually missed what the original discussion was about. A poster claimed Hanlon is "easily better" than McCart and I've pointed out that you can easily make an argument that's not the case . The fact McCart has achieved more in his career by 23 than Hanlon has by 31 is an uncomfortable truth, but one that can't be easily ignored.

Of course you think your opinion is correct. It would be rather odd if you thought otherwise.

For the record I like Hanlon, he's a good, but no more than that, SPL standard centre half. I'm happy he's at the club. The point we can just dismiss he's easily being better than McCart doesn't really stand up to much scrutiny though IMO.

[hibbydog]

I don’t want internet creeps, unfit, uncommitted players, has beens or ill disciplined characters anywhere near our squad.

Leigh Griffiths is all of those things.

I sincerely hope Jack Ross thinks the same.

[Torto7]

If we sell Nisbet and Griffiths is part of the deal, it's a bad deal. After us facing down the winter interest in Porto and Nisbet, and whatever was on the table for Doig, I'd like to think that we'll happily tell Celtc to bolt if they don't pay top dollar.

We will.

[ElginHibbie]

No doubt there is a call to be made however we would look pretty silly he goes to Aberdeen and he cracks 20 goals in which he is more than capable of doing.

We'd also look very silly to be signing him on big money and him having another injury or off field distraction leaving as short up front

He's a gamble, a gamble we could afford if he was coming in behind Doidge and Nisbet but not one we can afford to replace the two of them in my opinion

[JimBHibees]

We'd also look very silly to be signing him on big money and him having another injury or off field distraction leaving as short up front

He's a gamble, a gamble we could afford if he was coming in behind Doidge and Nisbet but not one we can afford to replace the two of them in my opinion

Reasonable opinion

[Bobo]

As much as Griffiths has been good in his previous spells with Hibs, he no longer fits into the clubs' current signing policy of investing in young talent who can be improved and sold for profit. He would also likely command a reasonable wage and have little to no resale value, come the end of his contract, so unless we were getting him on a free transfer I can't see him being a makeweight in any transfer dealings for Kevin Nisbet.

Hibs will want to maximise any transfer fee for Nisbet and signing aging players with little prospect of any financial return isn't how they will like that to be reduced. The time for Leigh to return to Hibs was a couple of seasons ago, he didn't and that ship sailed, it's now time to move on IMO.

I hope Kevin Nisbet stays until next season, at least, unless a suitable transfer fee is received without any other teams cast offs being involved.

[Real Emerald]

We could do with some experience up front now that Doidge is out so an older head would be good on this occasion. I would rather keep Nisbet and sell down south when the time comes and not fog the situation with these cash plus player deals.

As for taking LG, he would be a great addition if he was in the right frame of mind and fit. It’s also going to be an ongoing issue with opposition fans reactions to him, it’s very possible he will handle that badly. My heart says one thing but my head says another on this one.

[Unseen work]

If McCart signed I could see Ross trying to fit a 352/343 into the team

……………Macey………

…..Porto…Hanlon….McCart….

Boyle……JDH….Newell….Doig….

……..Magennis…….Murphy…..

………………..Nisbet………

I would keep the current shape as think it’s working but I could see him trying to fit everyone in

[SHODAN]

Ajeti wouldn't come near us would he?

[brog]

Sorry but that's nonsense. Your "facts" are that he was a better player at 24 is because he had more Scotland under 21 caps?

Hanlon has about 3 times as many under 21 caps than John McGinn. If that's your basis for a "fact" then he's also a better player than McGinn.

It was you who said it was unargueable McCart is clearly a better player at 24 than Paul Hanlon was at the same age. I've used facts to demonstrate it clearly is argueable. Incidentally given SJM had about 10 full Scotland caps by the age of 24 I think I'll agree he's a better player than PH. Obviously not as good as McCart though because SJM lost in the LC final. 😁

[Brightside]

You've actually missed what the original discussion was about. A poster claimed Hanlon is "easily better" than McCart and I've pointed out that you can easily make an argument that's not the case . The fact McCart has achieved more in his career by 23 than Hanlon has by 31 is an uncomfortable truth, but one that can't be easily ignored.

Of course you think your opinion is correct. It would be rather odd if you thought otherwise.

For the record I like Hanlon, he's a good, but no more than that, SPL standard centre half. I'm happy he's at the club. The point we can just dismiss he's easily being better than McCart doesn't really stand up to much scrutiny though IMO.

You can just dismiss....just use statistical facts based on a players performance. Hanlon is up there with the 2 Rangers CHs last season. Not an opinion. Actual facts.

[Selkirkhibs]

I don’t want internet creeps, unfit, uncommitted players, has beens or ill disciplined characters anywhere near our squad.

Leigh Griffiths is all of those things.

I sincerely hope Jack Ross thinks the same.

Agreed.

Leigh would be a huge backwards step.

I don't think Jack Ross would want Leigh anywhere near his squad imo.

Any money we get for our top players should be re invested in finding yet more hungry fit professional talents.

[Since90+2]

You can just dismiss....just use statistical facts based on a players performance. Hanlon is up there with the 2 Rangers CHs last season. Not an opinion. Actual facts.

I'm guessing by facts you mean statistics. They're not the same thing.

Harry Maguire, statistically, is in the top 3 centre halfs in Europe. If I'm following your train of thought you agree with that. I don't and wouldn't even have him in the top 10.

Statistics for centre halfs don't take into account things like being caught out of position, arguably the most important attribute that they can have,positional sense, so they are largely meaningless.

Again, I like Hanlon. He's a good player. I think he's about the same level as McCart. Only one of them has the potential to improve though.

[Key West]

I'm a great admirer of Paul Hanlon ( In a Hibs context ) and wouldn't be unhappy to see him still plying his trade in some capacity for the next 2 years wether as a first pick or more likely a squad player.
I wouldn't be overly excited about signing anybody from St Johnstone who was either inferior on a par with or slightly better.

[JohnM1875]

Ajeti wouldn't come near us would he?

I wouldn't want him anywhere near us.

[tonyrougier123]

Leigh Griffiths is a terrible bargaining chip for Celtic.Hibs fan or not Griffiths has a hell of a lot to prove just now.hard cash for Nisbet preferred imo.

[04Sauzee]

Connolly had just come in for Brighton, he was one that some in the media were saying may be seen as possible loan player due to the Hibs & Brighton partnership. Think he's a full international and was always unlikely to be loaned to us anyway.

[SHODAN]

Arghhh okay, let's do it. Superior statistics per player (club games ONLY) are in bold.

McCart at age 24 years and 61 days (now):
159 professional appearances, 57 in top division
198 goals conceded in games played (1.25 per game), 75 in top division (1.32 per game)
36 goals conceded in 26 games against Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, Hearts or Hibs (1.38 per game)
3 goals scored
Trophies won: Scottish Cup (1), Scottish League Cup (1)

Hanlon at age 24 years and 61 days (31st March 2014)
194 professional appearances, 162 in top division
293 goals conceded in games played (1.51 per game), 233 in top division (1.44 per game)
105 goals conceded in 59 games against Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, Hearts or Hibs (1.77 per game)
9 goals scored
Trophies won: None

Hanlon had much more experience back then but had a tendency not to cope in big games (which to an extent has somewhat recovered). McCart has an overall better defensive record and his goals conceded hardly changes against "big" teams. He also has two trophies.

I would tend to agree, when compared at the same age, McCart is the superior player; however, he is playing in a much better team.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

I don’t want internet creeps, unfit, uncommitted players, has beens or ill disciplined characters anywhere near our squad.

Leigh Griffiths is all of those things.

I sincerely hope Jack Ross thinks the same.

Agreed.
I hope these sort of regressive signings are a thing of the past.

[Since452]

Leigh Griffiths won't play for Hibs again. He's done at this level. Wouldn't be surprised to see him play lower league football now. PR disaster for anyone who signs him.

[Key West]

Why don't we ask Celtic to swap Eduoard for Nisbet?

[Since90+2]

Arghhh okay, let's do it. Superior statistics per player (club games ONLY) are in bold.

McCart at age 24 years and 61 days (now):
159 professional appearances, 57 in top division
198 goals conceded in games played (1.25 per game), 75 in top division (1.32 per game)
36 goals conceded in 26 games against Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, Hearts or Hibs (1.38 per game)
3 goals scored
Trophies won: Scottish Cup (1), Scottish League Cup (1)

Hanlon at age 24 years and 61 days (31st March 2014)
194 professional appearances, 162 in top division
293 goals conceded in games played (1.51 per game), 233 in top division (1.44 per game)
105 goals conceded in 59 games against Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, Hearts or Hibs (1.77 per game)
9 goals scored
Trophies won: None

Hanlon had much more experience back then but had a tendency not to cope in big games (which to an extent has somewhat recovered). McCart has an overall better defensive record and his goals conceded hardly changes against "big" teams. He also has two trophies.

I would tend to agree, when compared at the same age, McCart is the superior player; however, he is playing in a much better team.

Pretty well summed up.

[Magpie]

Leigh Griffiths won't play for Hibs again. He's done at this level. Wouldn't be surprised to see him play lower league football now. PR disaster for anyone who signs him.

No chance he drops to that level. Livingston for one would probably take him in a heartbeat.

[bigwheel]

Pretty well summed up.

The stats are somewhat interesting. Only some of course are actually relevant to the individual….more interesting would be their pass , tackle, heading, interception etc percentages

The trophy ones which you highlight again have no relationship to individual performance. They are all about the team.

[Since90+2]

The stats are somewhat interesting. Only some of course are actually relevant to the individual….more interesting would be their pass , tackle, heading, interception etc percentages

The trophy ones which you highlight again have no relationship to individual performance. They are all about the team.

Of course.

I'll bow out now and let the posters who are clearly right try and tell everyone why these stats don't count to suit their argument.

I think the point has been made and backed up pretty well.

[brianmc]

Why don't we ask Celtic to swap Eduoard for Nisbet?

I can think of 85000 reasons per week...

[hhibs]

£2m + LG would be criminal imo.

I think Nisbet is worth at least £5m and I hope Hibs stand firm.


Hibs are under new ownership and management,KN going nowhere at a low price,least of all Celtic.

Supporters suggesting £1.5 to £3 million really have it very wrong,Ron Gordon will reject,he holds all the cards and knows how to play them. IMO

[The Harp Awakes]

If McCart signed I could see Ross trying to fit a 352/343 into the team

……………Macey………

…..Porto…Hanlon….McCart….

Boyle……JDH….Newell….Doig….

……..Magennis…….Murphy…..

………………..Nisbet………

I would keep the current shape as think it’s working but I could see him trying to fit everyone in

Sorry if I'm going over old ground here, but why has Hibs focus moved from signing Kerr to McCart of St Johnstone? Always thought Kerr was the better player and being a Hibee we'd be pushing against an open door:dunno:

[Manxhibs]

I can’t see Ron taking a low ball offer from the lesser greens. Paid £4.4 million for Brown, Nisbet has a similar upside to the one he had. Given the way the market is now, I think £7.5 million is a fair offer. £6 million with a 15% sell on if they haven’t got the cash.

[Unseen work]

Sorry if I'm going over old ground here, but why has Hibs focus moved from signing Kerr to McCart of St Johnstone? Always thought Kerr was the better player and being a Hibee we'd be pushing against an open door:dunno:

For me I think it’s just a case of being priced out of Kerr

[easty]

For me I think it’s just a case of being priced out of Kerr

If we get to the end of the window will St J be more open to offers? So they need the money?

Will Kerr accept a smaller step up (in terms of wages) to Hibs rather than the English Championship?

[Since452]

Kevin Nisbet's market value is 5/6 million. Got to take Dunfermlines cut into consideration too. He won't be leaving Hibs unless it's for big money and Celtic won't pay it even through they can easily afford it.

[Since90+2]

Kevin Nisbet's market value is 5/6 million. Got to take Dunfermlines cut into consideration too. He won't be leaving Hibs unless it's for big money and Celtic won't pay it even through they can easily afford it.

If Hibs get offered 4 million he'll be off down the M8 in a flash.

[easty]

If Hibs get offered 4 million he'll be off down the M8 in a flash.

I think he’s worth more, but I agree that’d prob be enough to convince us to sell.

[Magpie]

Kevin Nisbet's market value is 5/6 million. Got to take Dunfermlines cut into consideration too. He won't be leaving Hibs unless it's for big money and Celtic won't pay it even through they can easily afford it.

What % do Dunfermline get?

[bingo70]

Kevin Nisbet's market value is 5/6 million. Got to take Dunfermlines cut into consideration too. He won't be leaving Hibs unless it's for big money and Celtic won't pay it even through they can easily afford it.

Where has the £5/6m come from?

It was only around £3m at the start of the window?

(I know we rejected £3m in January however that was full of add ons and not £3m up front apparently)

[04Sauzee]

Where has the £5/6m come from?

It was only around £3m at the start of the window?

(I know we rejected £3m in January however that was full of add ons and not £3m up front apparently)

Not worth 5 or 6 but has to be worth more than the 3 we rejected, I'd think Hibs would be looking at minimum 4m now and hopefully nearer 4.5m

Anyway that's enough numbers from me 😁

[King Cosell]

Luke Jephcott scored another for Plymouth today. Fits the bill. Maybe out of our price range.

[Key West]

I can think of 85000 reasons per week...

Of course, it was suggested sarcastically. :greengrin

[Since452]

What % do Dunfermline get?

Rumoured to be 30%

[King Cosell]

What % do Dunfermline get?

Give them Leigh Griffiths.

[BSEJVT]

I think Nisbet is worth 10m or is it 20m or 50m and the stats selectively presented by either side of Hanlon / McCart argument as to who is now or was the better player as a foetus or any other age between are about as relevant as my opinion as to Nisbet's value, total nonsense

Even if they were born on the same day played with and against the same teams and same personnel on the same day, such a comparison would be so flawed as to be nonsensical.

Stuff presented and argued over as facts and/or statistics are so heavily influenced by a huge number of other "hygiene" factors as to be worthless.

The debate is so polarised by folks negative on the one hand and positive on the other hand opinions of the relevant players that it tells us nothing

Let's suppose we decide for argument's sake to go for McCart and are lucky enough to get him, the only relevant arbiter as to who is best will be their coaches at club and/or international level.

Time to trust the recruitment team to do their stuff here and if it pans out that we get McCart for the dice to fall as they do as to who plays and who doesn't.

Really enjoyed the few pages of pointless bickering about a player we do have v one we don't and know little about.

Hanlon could lead Hibs to the Quadruple, Captain Scotland to World Cup Glory and win the Ballon D'or and some folk still wouldn't rate him.

[lochhibs]

Anyone know who KN agent is?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Anyone know who KN agent is?

Nicolas Nicholson

[Magpie]

Rumoured to be 30%

Thanks. I think if we can get ourselves at least £3m profit out of it with a further sell on clause then we would accept an offer.

[MWHIBBIES]

You've actually missed what the original discussion was about. A poster claimed Hanlon is "easily better" than McCart and I've pointed out that you can easily make an argument that's not the case . The fact McCart has achieved more in his career by 23 than Hanlon has by 31 is an uncomfortable truth, but one that can't be easily ignored.

Of course you think your opinion is correct. It would be rather odd if you thought otherwise.

For the record I like Hanlon, he's a good, but no more than that, SPL standard centre half. I'm happy he's at the club. The point we can just dismiss he's easily being better than McCart doesn't really stand up to much scrutiny though IMO.

Hes achieved more in terms of trophies. I'd say playing nearly 500 times for Hibs is an achievement as well, one Mccart would kill for. Hanlon still has time to achieve more. Also, you haven't made any argument that Mccart is better. Youve just said his team won trophies. Plenty of **** players win trophies. I'd already pointed out it is a weak argument because some of the worlds best ever players haven't won much trophy wise. Totti won 3 major club trophies in his 25 year career. How many worse players win more than that in 2/3 years?

[MyJo]

Did Hanlon not spent the next 3 years after he turned 24 playing in Scotland's second tier? McCart is winning both cups in the same year then drawing away in Europe to Galatasary.

If the scripts were flipped we wouldn't even be having the conversation. I get people are biased towards their own players, I'm guilty of it too at times, but there's definitely a large portion of that going on here.

At that time Hanlon rejected the opportunity to sign for Aberdeen who were the second/third best team in the country, had just won the league cup and were going to be competing in Europe the following season.

By staying with Hibs in the championship for those seasons he was playing well below his level through loyalty rather than lack of quality as your suggesting.

[Fergus52]

Arghhh okay, let's do it. Superior statistics per player (club games ONLY) are in bold.

McCart at age 24 years and 61 days (now):
159 professional appearances, 57 in top division
198 goals conceded in games played (1.25 per game), 75 in top division (1.32 per game)
36 goals conceded in 26 games against Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, Hearts or Hibs (1.38 per game)
3 goals scored
Trophies won: Scottish Cup (1), Scottish League Cup (1)

Hanlon at age 24 years and 61 days (31st March 2014)
194 professional appearances, 162 in top division
293 goals conceded in games played (1.51 per game), 233 in top division (1.44 per game)
105 goals conceded in 59 games against Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, Hearts or Hibs (1.77 per game)
9 goals scored
Trophies won: None

Hanlon had much more experience back then but had a tendency not to cope in big games (which to an extent has somewhat recovered). McCart has an overall better defensive record and his goals conceded hardly changes against "big" teams. He also has two trophies.

I would tend to agree, when compared at the same age, McCart is the superior player; however, he is playing in a much better team.

Using team stats to compare individual players is completely pointless.

All that tells us is that hibs were very poor defensively pre relegation.

[MWHIBBIES]

Did Hanlon not spent the next 3 years after he turned 24 playing in Scotland's second tier? McCart is winning both cups in the same year then drawing away in Europe to Galatasary.

If the scripts were flipped we wouldn't even be having the conversation. I get people are biased towards their own players, I'm guilty of it too at times, but there's definitely a large portion of that going on here.

I'd still be happy to have the conversation. I usually judge players on their own ability, and not just the results of their team.

If Hibs did that, would they have signed some crocked midfielder from relegated St Mirren in 2015? That McGinn guy.

Basically, if Jamie Murphy scores vs St Johnstone in the semi, and maybe St Mirren scored one of the 3 sitters they missed, or you know, Rangers mark the ****ing goalie at a corner, is Hanlon then a better player than McCart?

You see how silly this argument is? Both players as individuals, Hanlon is currently better. And he has much more experience, in multiple systems. McCart has only ever had success, for 11 cup ties, in a system that really suits him. Can he play well in a back 4 or a higher line? Can he pass it out from the back as well as Hanlon? I've got my doubts.

[bigwheel]

Of course.

I'll bow out now and let the posters who are clearly right try and tell everyone why these stats don't count to suit their argument.

I think the point has been made and backed up pretty well.

In the huff ??

[Northernhibee]

Paul Hanlon would be an important part of any team in this league outwith Rangers, and would be an option off the bench for Celtic.

Along with Lewis I have literally no idea how people cannot rate him.

[147lothian]

Paul Hanlon would be an important part of any team in this league outwith Rangers, and would be an option off the bench for Celtic.

Along with Lewis I have literally no idea how people cannot rate him.

IMO Hibs fan's have always picked someone as the fall guy, it just goes to show what a good team we have just now if Paul Hanlon is the fall guy.

[Stokesy's on fire]

7million min

[Lago]

In the huff ??
Bit childish on your part.

[loanheadhibby]

Yes, its a great achievement as everyone has said. Again, does not make him a better player. Why did he concede so many more goals than Hanlon and Porteous?

If it was a 1 vs 1 sport and he beat Hanlon, I'd agree. Its not, though. I struggle to get the hype about any defender that sits on the edge of his own 18 yard box every week, lumping it into the stands in a system that suits him very well. Hanlon has shown for years (not just 11 cup ties) how good he is. He had a brilliant season last year as well. Can McCart even play at this level in a back 4? Has he ever done it?

Hanlon and Porteous are two of the best centre halfs in the league.
You are completely over rating Hanlon.
He did not have a brilliant season just passed but we've all got different opinions.
A great servant over the years but like Lewis no other clubs have shown any interest.

[H18 SFR]

You are completely over rating Hanlon.
He did not have a brilliant season just passed but we've all got different opinions.
A great servant over the years but like Lewis no other clubs have shown any interest.

Aberdeen offered him a contract last time he renewed.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/928209/aberdeen-linked-move-hibs-defender-paul-hanlon/amp/

[bigwheel]

Bit childish on your part.

You’re right - Was a cheap shot ..fair point ..

Was a poor post though - not accepting people pointing out the analysis didn’t relate to the point trying to be made …

[Juniper Greens]

Aberdeen have tried 2 times thst I know of to get Paul hanlon. We also accepted a bid from Fulham once, but he rejected the move. McCart might turn out to be better than Hanlon in time. But right now, it's 50 50 if he will potentially be better than or worse than Hanlon.
Hanlon is a top player at our level, and we've been lucky to have him so long

[MWHIBBIES]

You are completely over rating Hanlon.
He did not have a brilliant season just passed but we've all got different opinions.
A great servant over the years but like Lewis no other clubs have shown any interest.

He did have a brilliant season.

[JimBHibees]

You are completely over rating Hanlon.
He did not have a brilliant season just passed but we've all got different opinions.
A great servant over the years but like Lewis no other clubs have shown any interest.

Have you ever said anything remotely positive about Hibs. Boyle Lewis Hanlon all criticised yet nothing remotely positive

[JimBHibees]

He did have a brilliant season.

Agree he did

[04Sauzee]

Noticed on twitter there is a bit of chat amongst Celtic fans that Celtic haven't approached Hibs with regards to Nisbet but Rangers have supposedly been in contact a couple of times.

[loanheadhibby]

Have you ever said anything remotely positive about Hibs. Boyle Lewis Hanlon all criticised yet nothing remotely positive
I like all three in particular Boyle.
I refuse to fawn over certain players who are the fans favourites.
To say Paul Hanlon had a brilliant season 20/21 is clearly ridiculous.
Lewis has been a great servant but has over the years been in my opinion no better than average.

[King Cosell]

McCart plays left of a 3 with Kerr and Gordon (why does nobody mention Gordon?) and they've got 2 defensive wing-backs, our defence is structured very differently. Leaving out our club captain, who puts in a 7/10 performance every week, and replacing him with McCart sound silly to me. If he can play left and right CB and do a turn at left back he'd be a great buy.

[green day]

Noticed on twitter there is a bit of chat amongst Celtic fans that Celtic haven't approached Hibs with regards to Nisbet but Rangers have supposedly been in contact a couple of times.

Always amazes me just how many people claim to be in the loop on transfers, salaries etc and put it right out on twitter.

A more cynical person than moi might conclude that most of them are attention seeking fantasists.......

[Smartie]

I like all three in particular Boyle.
I refuse to fawn over certain players who are the fans favourites.
To say Paul Hanlon had a brilliant season 20/21 is clearly ridiculous.
Lewis has been a great servant but has over the years been in my opinion no better than average.

I thought Paul Hanlon had a brilliant 20/21 season, and it was one of the main reasons we finished where we did in the league.

[BILLYHIBS]

He did have a brilliant season.
:agree:

My POTY all things considered

[Unseen work]

Porteous, McGinn and Hanlon all got called up to the National Team last season.

How many of the St Johnstone defenders did?

Our defenders all had a good season, let’s not the lie about it.

Yes they made the odd error but cmon.

[Fergus52]

I like all three in particular Boyle.
I refuse to fawn over certain players who are the fans favourites.
To say Paul Hanlon had a brilliant season 20/21 is clearly ridiculous.
Lewis has been a great servant but has over the years been in my opinion no better than average.

How is it ridiculous? Was a key player in the side that finished third in the league.

And was statistically the 2nd best CB in the league after goldson in terms of tackles, interceptions, Arial duels won, ball retention etc. Going on whoscored's metrics.

[Jim44]

I heard the same today from a friend who is friendly with a celtic director, no other details other than its supposedly happening
edit... £1.5m plus LG, bad deal if true

That’s a shocker, if true. Peanuts plus a pig in a poke for a young top class striker is crazy. I would question the sanity of RG and GM if they fell for that.

[Ronniekirk]

Noticed on twitter there is a bit of chat amongst Celtic fans that Celtic haven't approached Hibs with regards to Nisbet but Rangers have supposedly been in contact a couple of times.

Rangers have even less money than Celtic so don’t see them paying 4 million so likely to be a player thrown in
I would rather we keep hold on to him until someone offers what we value him at


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[King Cosell]

Mueller on the bench again. Wasn't happy getting brought on in injury time in last match, tweeted his discontent.

[Block]

Mueller on the bench again. Wasn't happy getting brought on in injury time in last match, tweeted his discontent.

No one likes a discontent. Better keeping mum. Imo.

Mon the Cabbage.

:flag:

[King Cosell]

No one likes a discontent. Better keeping mum. Imo.

Mon the Cabbage.

:flag:

"You can't break down what can't be broken," he said with a pic of himself. Make of that what you will.

[Dmas]

"You can't break down what can't be broken," he said with a pic of himself. Make of that what you will.

Being punished for trying to force through the hibs move early….there is hope

[Juniper Greens]

I like all three in particular Boyle.
I refuse to fawn over certain players who are the fans favourites.
To say Paul Hanlon had a brilliant season 20/21 is clearly ridiculous.
Lewis has been a great servant but has over the years been in my opinion no better than average.

I've never noticed your posts until the last few weeks, but they are ridiculous. I dont think you are a hibs fan, and you're the only person I've said that about.
Paul Hanlon got his first Scotland cap, was statistically the 2nd best centre half in the league. Led the meanest defence in the league outside the bigot brothers and captained his club to their highest finish in 15 years, with a higher finish having been decades before that.
Did he have bad games, yes. But for a club of Hibernians stature, I think its fair to say, it was an outstanding season for him and us.
Whilst Porto has more potential, if I heard that one of Hanlon or Porto was out for a few weeks, I would rather it be Porto. (Obviously I want neither to be injured though)

[Currie Hibee]

I see Celtics manager didn’t down play down the Nisbet link in one of his post match interviews. Would appear we are set for the usual drawn out affair as Celtic low ball for the next 9 days.

[Onion]

I see Celtics manager didn’t down play down the Nisbet link in one of his post match interviews. Would appear we are set for the usual drawn out affair as Celtic low ball for the next 9 days.

Days of OF lifting our players for peanuts ended years ago. They know it, we know it, but Celtic need to continue to dance around like billy big baws to feed their fans superiority complex. Celtic being "forced" to pay fair value for a Hibs player is seen as us holding them and the player to ransom, and further evidence of less important clubs stifling the OF progress.

[Mr. Wonderful]

I see Celtics manager didn’t down play down the Nisbet link in one of his post match interviews. Would appear we are set for the usual drawn out affair as Celtic low ball for the next 9 days.

If it happens Nisbet's agent will play silly buggers. Absolute nap

[hibee316]

I'm guessing by facts you mean statistics. They're not the same thing.

Harry Maguire, statistically, is in the top 3 centre halfs in Europe. If I'm following your train of thought you agree with that. I don't and wouldn't even have him in the top 10.

Statistics for centre halfs don't take into account things like being caught out of position, arguably the most important attribute that they can have,positional sense, so they are largely meaningless.

Again, I like Hanlon. He's a good player. I think he's about the same level as McCart. Only one of them has the potential to improve though.

Agree with your comparison of Hanlon and McCart, but Maguire really is a terrific defender. When he was out At Man U, they really struggled and he is a key part of the England defence that hardly concede.

What don't you like about him as a player?

[Since90+2]

Agree with your comparison of Hanlon and McCart, but Maguire really is a terrific defender. When he was out At Man U, they really struggled and he is a key part of the England defence that hardly concede.

What don't you like about him as a player?

I think he's a good player undoubtedly I just don't see him being in the top 3 centre halfs in Europe and I don't think he'd make the top 10 either although probably not far off it.

Still a very good player though.

[cameronw-hfc]

I wonder if we are willing to cash in on Nisbet in order to bring Mueller over early. Surely anything 100k and Orlando would accept and take something rather than nothing?

[Winston Ingram]

Kevin Nisbet's market value is 5/6 million. Got to take Dunfermlines cut into consideration too. He won't be leaving Hibs unless it's for big money and Celtic won't pay it even through they can easily afford it.

It’s never £5/6m. It’s £3m tops.

[hibee316]

It’s never £5/6m. It’s £3m tops.

He's a young striker with all the attributes to make it at a higher level. I think it could easily be more than £3million.

No guarantees though!

[SMAXXA]

It’s never £5/6m. It’s £3m tops.

Says you and your wrong

[southern hibby]

I wonder if we are willing to cash in on Nisbet in order to bring Mueller over early. Surely anything 100k and Orlando would accept and take something rather than nothing?

Was in the Hibs club before the last game and Ron was in talking to fans. He said we’ve tried to bring him in early and offered a very good package to do that but they just are not interested in letting him go early. He also
said he’d personally love to see him here now but it’s more than likely going to be December, however as we know in football as the window
draws nearer anything can happen.

Also spoke about looking at several other players.

GGTTH

[Winston Ingram]

He's a young striker with all the attributes to make it at a higher level. I think it could easily be more than £3million.

No guarantees though!

He’s not got all the attributes at all. His hold up play is poor and is best with a partner. I can’t think of any top level strikers than need a partner.

On top of that, his goals record is not that brilliant. He scored 14 league goals last season. Decent but that’s about it.

[Winston Ingram]

Says you and your wrong

Until I’m proved right when he’s sold for quite a bit less👍🏻

[B.H.F.C]

It’s never £5/6m. It’s £3m tops.

I’d be surprised if we got £5m. It’s fine us wanting it but getting it is a different thing. Possibly why we’ve still got Doig as well.

Hope we just keep him to be fair, but if Celtic are in for him he’s going to want to go so probably changes the situation.

[Since90+2]

I think Nisbet would score a **** load in that current Celtic team. They seem to be very attacking under Agne.

If he does go we should make sure a decent sell on clause inserted.

[Iain G]

Until I’m proved right when he’s sold for quite a bit less👍🏻

Rather be proven right than Hibs getting a good price for the player if he is sold? 🙄

[Winston Ingram]

I’d be surprised if we got £5m. It’s fine us wanting it but getting it is a different thing. Possibly why we’ve still got Doig as well.

Hope we just keep him to be fair, but if Celtic are in for him he’s going to want to go so probably changes the situation.

I’m pretty sure we’d take £3m. I’m absolutely certain we’ll have planned for this as well.

[BT58]

Birmingham wanted KN last window, he wanted to go, he even put in a transfer request, they didnt meet Hibs valuation, he stayed. Cellic dont meet Hibs valuation then he stays. Hes only been here a short time, but must realise that if a club offers what Hibs want that he will be allowed to go.
B

[Winston Ingram]

Rather be proven right than Hibs getting a good price for the player if he is sold? 🙄

Yeah that’s it👀

[Smartie]

I’d be surprised if we got £5m. It’s fine us wanting it but getting it is a different thing. Possibly why we’ve still got Doig as well.

Hope we just keep him to be fair, but if Celtic are in for him he’s going to want to go so probably changes the situation.

There’s been a lot of chat about holding out for big bucks and tbf we’ve done the holding out part so far on one or two occasions - there’s yet to be any evidence that we’ll get the bigger numbers we’ve spoken about.

Personally, I think Nisbet’s agent is a bit of a knob, and I would rule out a pretty ugly next couple of weeks.

[Dalianwanda]

It’s never £5/6m. It’s £3m tops.

If he goes it will be for more than 3mill..we’ve already shown we won’t be mucked about and what will hold out till someone bids what we expect not them.

[BT58]

If he goes it will be for more than 3mill..we’ve already shown we won’t be mucked about and what will hold out till someone bids what we expect not them.

Where,s the LIKE button ??. Hibs hold the aces here.
B

[green day]

Birmingham wanted KN last window, he wanted to go, he even put in a transfer request, they didnt meet Hibs valuation, he stayed. Cellic dont meet Hibs valuation then he stays. Hes only been here a short time, but must realise that if a club offers what Hibs want that he will be allowed to go.
B

Kevin signed a contract for several years - that works both ways, it gives him certainty of a salary if he gets injured (see Boyle / Doidge) and protects the club if someone wants to sign him.

That sentence is pretty obvious, but is often forgotten.

When people say "Hibs will take £XYZ" they seem to forget that we signed him because we wanted a striker to score goals for us - not as an asset to be sold whenever some other team wants him, that may be a positive byproduct.

Losing him to a rival now is bad enough, losing him at this point in the window is worse, losing him when our other main striker is injured is potentially disastrous for the season - the bit in bold above is the part that is most important right now, not Celtic, not KN agent, and not KN himself.

[Allant1981]

Says you and your wrong

Genuinely cant see us getting anywhere near 5/6m for nisbet just now, if he has another good season this year then possibly but needs to do it at this level for more than 1 season

[Springbank]

Genuinely cant see us getting anywhere near 5/6m for nisbet just now, if he has another good season this year then possibly but needs to do it at this level for more than 1 season

Sounds quite similar to things people said when Scott Brown left Hibs.

"You'll get nowhere near £4.4m"
"Thomson went for £2m that's what they're worth"

In KNs case I think we turned down £3.5m in Jan, then saw KN score v Netherlands, play in all 3 games at the Euros, and start the season well. Asking £5m is not unreasonable imo

[Dalianwanda]

Sounds quite similar to things people said when Scott Brown left Hibs.

"You'll get nowhere near £4.4m"
"Thomson went for £2m that's what they're worth"

In KNs case I think we turned down £3.5m in Jan, then saw KN score v Netherlands, play in all 3 games at the Euros, and start the season well. Asking £5m is not unreasonable imo

spot on…as i’ve said elsewhere would rather straight cash if we have to lose him (hope we don’t) to see what they really value him at.

[GloryGlory]

Genuinely cant see us getting anywhere near 5/6m for nisbet just now, if he has another good season this year then possibly but needs to do it at this level for more than 1 season

If Nisbet were already a Celtic player and there was interest in buying him, do you think they would be asking for less than £10-12 million?

[JimBHibees]

Sounds quite similar to things people said when Scott Brown left Hibs.

"You'll get nowhere near £4.4m"
"Thomson went for £2m that's what they're worth"

In KNs case I think we turned down £3.5m in Jan, then saw KN score v Netherlands, play in all 3 games at the Euros, and start the season well. Asking £5m is not unreasonable imo

Spot on why should we undersell or be forced into a cash plus player deal we may not be sure about. Have our value if not met he stays simple as.

[Allant1981]

If Nisbet were already a Celtic player and there was interest in buying him, do you think they would be asking for less than £10-12 million?

Probably not but thats how it works at smaller clubs, same for when we bought him originally

[WhileTheChief..]

I think Nisbet would score a **** load in that current Celtic team. They seem to be very attacking under Agne.

If he does go we should make sure a decent sell on clause inserted.

If it's Celtic he's going to, I'd rather a big chunky fee with no sell-on.

Celtic rarely sell players on for more than they paid for them.

I know there's a couple of high profile exceptions but if you think of the dozens of players they go through, you rarely hear of them getting a fee, let alone a few in excess of what they paid.

With Nisbet, who's bigger than Celtic that would pay even more millions for him than Celtic will have to pay us?

RG just needs to keep saying not for sale until the number becomes too big to ignore.

[LeithMike]

Sounds quite similar to things people said when Scott Brown left Hibs.

"You'll get nowhere near £4.4m"
"Thomson went for £2m that's what they're worth"

In KNs case I think we turned down £3.5m in Jan, then saw KN score v Netherlands, play in all 3 games at the Euros, and start the season well. Asking £5m is not unreasonable imoWith KT I think there was only one interested party. With Scott, there were Premiership teams (Birmingham, Reading?) and both the old firm driving up the price. I'm sure as we get near the close of the wondow some English teams will be searching for a striker so Celtic surely wont get this all their own way.

The Celtic fans might not accept penny-pinching again and if they were to miss out on Nisbet and the league title again then there might be a bit of a backlash. Hibs just need to hold firm and hope Nisbet buckles down and waits patiently on the right move which will inevitably happen. Hibs have never stood in any player's way of progressing.

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[JohnM1875]

Nisbet is absolutely worth around 5 million. 24, three years left on his deal and highest scorer in the league outwith the old firm.

Strikers usually command a higher fee and he's a full international that played at the Euro's.

Shocked that folk think he's not worth that to be honest. Already a real talent with loads of time to improve.

[Greenbeard]

Birmingham wanted KN last window, he wanted to go, he even put in a transfer request, they didnt meet Hibs valuation, he stayed. Cellic dont meet Hibs valuation then he stays. Hes only been here a short time, but must realise that if a club offers what Hibs want that he will be allowed to go.
B
He has also increased his value with improved performances this season. Still not the finished article but if £3m wasn't enough last window it def isn't enough now.

[Nicho87]

I’m the same Nisbet is 24 he’s still raw if he moved to Celtic I personally don’t see him moving to English premiership.

No sell on fee just a bigger fee. Rather than griffiths maybe Ross might ask for a mikey Johnston on loan for a year. Always thought he looked good.

[SquashedFrogg]

If Nisbet were already a Celtic player and there was interest in buying him, do you think they would be asking for less than £10-12 million?

But they'd be paying him more than we are. Wages are linked to valuations.

[loanheadhibby]

If he goes it will be for more than 3mill..we’ve already shown we won’t be mucked about and what will hold out till someone bids what we expect not them.

Not sure if that’s correct although do agree club won’t be messed about.

I think if someone says £3 million up front, the club will take it. It’s the structure of the £3 million that would be important.

There may be clubs wanting to pay £1.5 initially and then instalments thereafter based on performance.

[CockneyRebel]

If it's Celtic he's going to, I'd rather a big chunky fee with no sell-on.

Celtic rarely sell players on for more than they paid for them.

I know there's a couple of high profile exceptions but if you think of the dozens of players they go through, you rarely hear of them getting a fee, let alone a few in excess of what they paid.

With Nisbet, who's bigger than Celtic that would pay even more millions for him than Celtic will have to pay us?

RG just needs to keep saying not for sale until the number becomes too big to ignore.


It's not the size of the club, it's the size of their wallet and how far they are willing to open it. The bottom half of the EPL and the top half of the Championship are mostly all able to afford £5m for a striker. For a lot of them that's just a punt. Any of them get a bit desperate after a poor start and the likes of Nisbet would be high on the shopping list.

[PatHead]

He did have a brilliant season.

He had that bad a season he got a Scotland cap.

[weecounty hibby]

It’s never £5/6m. It’s £3m tops.

Why do we always play down our players value. In todays market Nisbet is a 5m player. They had 4m bid for turnbull accepted before he got injured Nisbet is a goal scorer and they have a premium on their value. This is a typical Scottish thing but Hibs fans seem to be even worse

[Torto7]

Why do we always play down our players value. In todays market Nisbet is a 5m player. They had 4m bid for turnbull accepted before he got injured Nisbet is a goal scorer and they have a premium on their value. This is a typical Scottish thing but Hibs fans seem to be even worse

Most of them are stuck in the early 2000s like a lot of people in Scottish football. Thankfully Mathie isnt a bedwetting rollover. If they want Nisbet they know the cost. Watch out for the hun though. Theyve been interested since he was at the Pars.

[WhileTheChief..]

It's not the size of the club, it's the size of their wallet and how far they are willing to open it. The bottom half of the EPL and the top half of the Championship are mostly all able to afford £5m for a striker. For a lot of them that's just a punt. Any of them get a bit desperate after a poor start and the likes of Nisbet would be high on the shopping list.

Yeah but I'm talking about another club buying from Celtic so that we benefit from a sell on.

If Celtic pay £4m or £5m for him now, then we need them to sell him on for a lot more than that in future. I'm suggesting that is unlikely.

I'd imagine if Nisbet was banging the goals in for Celtic that he would be more likely to extend his contract with them.

Struggling to think of any player that Celtic have sold for a profit to a Championship club? Why would the player move there when he can win titles and play in Europe each year. Celtic can easily match Championship wages.

I'd rather we got a large up front fee and forget about a sell on.

[Callum_62]

Jack Ross saying the Nisbet to Celtic link has no truth what so ever

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[Hibernian Verse]

Jack Ross saying the Nisbet to Celtic link has no truth what so ever

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“Nonsense”. Glad to hear it.

[Since452]

Ross saying Nisbet speculation BS

[Phil MaGlass]

Jack Ross just said theres no interest for Nisbet from sellik

[Phil MaGlass]

Snap snap

[Andy74]

Jack Ross just said theres no interest for Nisbet from sellik

None that they’ve told us about at least. Ross can’t speak for Celtic’s interest.

[SHODAN]

How come everywhere else transfer fees have inflated beyond parody, but in this country players seem to be somehow worth LESS than they were 10 years ago?

If Nisbet was English he'd be worth £20 million. £5 million is the bare minimum we should get.

[Jim44]

None that they’ve told us about at least. Ross can’t speak for Celtic’s interest.

JR made the point, but added, ‘unless the club are not keeping him informed’. That’s not beyond the realms of possibility.

[Callum_62]

JR made the point, but added, ‘unless the club are not keeping him informed’. That’s not beyond the realms of possibility.Altho Ross said that's highly unlikely
They might have an interest but obviouosy nothing approaching an official bid

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[Borderhibbie76]

Recruitment really need to pull the finger out this next week - severely weakened again today. We've been unlucky yes with injuries and now Covid but come on we've all said it all summer we needed defenders and strikers and here we are down to the bare bones. And we are having to play McGinn every week despite that fact he's badly out of form and we have nobody to replace him??

[Alex Trager]

We need someone to come in and challenge McGinn.

I would absolutely get JC back in as backup. Would be cheap I’d expect and has played very well today linking the play up well

[blackpoolhibs]

I know virtually nothing about McCart, other than when he plays against us. Do people who are judging how good he is watch all of the St Johnstone games?

I might watch the odd highlights package, but i cant be bothered watching anyone else bar us. :greengrin

[SHODAN]

Defenders needed. Please.

[GloryGlory]

Defenders needed. Please.

More than one. It's obvious the back ups we have aren't good enough.

Maybe it's time for Hibs to move on from focussing on one particular target - whether it's Kerr or McCart - and look at other options before the window closes.

[Callum_62]

We need someone to come in and challenge McGinn.

I would absolutely get JC back in as backup. Would be cheap I’d expect and has played very well today linking the play up wellWe have Chris Cadden

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[Heisenberg]

More than one. It's obvious the back ups we have aren't good enough.

Maybe it's time for Hibs to move on from focussing on one particular target - whether it's Kerr or McCart - and look at other options before the window closes.

I said the same after Rijeka and was told McGregor was fine for games like today. His attempt at defending for that first goal was horrendous. It’s a shame and of course he’s a legend but him and Porteous do not make a good partnership.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

A new RB, CH and left-sided winger with a bit of composure please.

[GloryGlory]

We have Chris Cadden

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How often has he been available in the last 8 months?

[Callum_62]

How often has he been available in the last 8 months?He's on the verge of returning. Isn't it one injury he's had after rarely being injured in his career?

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[BoomtownHibees]

We have Chris Cadden

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He’s no really a right back though is he?

[ScottB]

How come everywhere else transfer fees have inflated beyond parody, but in this country players seem to be somehow worth LESS than they were 10 years ago?

If Nisbet was English he'd be worth £20 million. £5 million is the bare minimum we should get.

Because our clubs haven’t gotten richer / a lot of them are poorer?

In England the vast amount of money flowing around the leagues has increased the amount they can afford to turn down. Our league probably has less revenue now than it did before the Setanta deal collapsed.

[007]

How come everywhere else transfer fees have inflated beyond parody, but in this country players seem to be somehow worth LESS than they were 10 years ago?

If Nisbet was English he'd be worth £20 million. £5 million is the bare minimum we should get.

If Nisbet was playing in England he'd probably be on 4 times the salary or more.

[shamo9]

I see Everton have made a bid of 5 million for the young Rangers right back, Patterson. Considering he's only played 17 games and is very much a backup to Tavernier, it give credence to our valuation of Doig IMO. I hope we stand our ground. He's on a long term contact and we're not in financial peril.

[SHODAN]

We have Chris Cadden

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Do we really though?

[Callum_62]

He’s no really a right back though is he?Isn't he? I think he is

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[MWHIBBIES]

The way some on here speak about our injured players is pretty poor.

[Callum_62]

Do we really though?We do

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[BoomtownHibees]

Isn't he? I think he is

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I always thought he played a bit further forward, either as a wing back or wide midfielder

[gaz1875]

I know virtually nothing about McCart, other than when he plays against us. Do people who are judging how good he is watch all of the St Johnstone games?

I might watch the odd highlights package, but i cant be bothered watching anyone else bar us. :greengrin

I'm not sure I have seen them stand out in games other than against us and that's only recently. Even in the highlight shows. They do seem to carry a bit more luck than our defenders. I actually think Rooney would be a better option for us, a good bit more physically stronger than McGinn.

[04Sauzee]

Hopefully be a busy last 9 days , not sure what we're after but from all the chat it may just be a defender and a forward potentially. I'd hope we'd be after 3 or 4 with a couple perhaps going out the door even on loan.

[B.H.F.C]

Isn't he? I think he is

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Has played as a right back but majority of his football has been played further forward.

[brog]

I always thought he played a bit further forward, either as a wing back or wide midfielder

You're correct but he's listed as a defender on our website and I think we see him mostly in a wingback role.

[SMAXXA]

JR made the point, but added, ‘unless the club are not keeping him informed’. That’s not beyond the realms of possibility.

I think it’s very much beyond the realms Jim, he will be made aware as soon as the club get any contact.

[easty]

Celtc paid more than £3m for that Abada boy, who’s only played in the Israeli league, never played European football, and had one 30 min sub appearance for his country in a friendly.

But we’ve got fans who think £3m is a good deal for Nisbet? That’s selling ourselves short.

[NC1875]

We need someone to come in and challenge McGinn.

I would absolutely get JC back in as backup. Would be cheap I’d expect and has played very well today linking the play up well

Why would Dundee sell JC cheap ? Not a chance we’d pay any fee for him, it’s not happening.

[JimBHibees]

I know virtually nothing about McCart, other than when he plays against us. Do people who are judging how good he is watch all of the St Johnstone games?

I might watch the odd highlights package, but i cant be bothered watching anyone else bar us. :greengrin

Personally think he would be a good signing. Seems to be getting better and better. Solid defender reasonable on the ball good physically.

[Heisenberg]

Glad to see JR say he’s still after reinforcements in attack and defence. I’m hoping we get one or two more before next week.

[BegbieHSC]

Nathan Paterson - opening offer £5m from Everton.

Branded a derisory offer https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/steven-gerrard-brands-everton-nathan-24815102.amp.

Yet we with Josh Doig, who’s played double the games that Paterson has, and won YPOY, are branded unrealistic for wanting >£4m, and are accused of stifling his career? Double standards with the OF as per.

[AlbertK86]

I see Everton have made a bid of 5 million for the young Rangers right back, Patterson. Considering he's only played 17 games and is very much a backup to Tavernier, it give credence to our valuation of Doig IMO. I hope we stand our ground. He's on a long term contact and we're not in financial peril.

And Gerrard saying £5 mill is way below value and laughing off.

If they value him that price then can’t see why we shouldn’t be looking at the same for Nisbet, Porto and Doig


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[Andy74]

You're correct but he's listed as a defender on our website and I think we see him mostly in a wingback role.

We aren’t really playing wing backs though.

Cadden was a winger that then played a bit at wing back. Not sure a proper full back position is one we should be counting on him to do well in.

[bigwheel]

We aren’t really playing wing backs though.

Cadden was a winger that then played a bit at wing back. Not sure a proper full back position is one we should be counting on him to do well in.

Cadden is a full back who can also play in midfield . He played full back through his development journey. Played RB for Oxford and in the MLS…he started at Motherwell at RB before playing further forward .

His main position is RB

[Torto7]

Nathan Paterson - opening offer £5m from Everton.

Branded a derisory offer https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/steven-gerrard-brands-everton-nathan-24815102.amp.

Yet we with Josh Doig, who’s played double the games that Paterson has, and won YPOY, are branded unrealistic for wanting >£4m, and are accused of stifling his career? Double standards with the OF as per.

No good on them for sticking to their guns. It was the English clubs moaning about the fee for Doig and plenty of 'Hibs' fans in here saying they would sell him for a million.

[B.H.F.C]

Cadden is a full back who can also play in midfield . He played full back through his development journey. Played RB for Oxford and in the MLS…he started at Motherwell at RB before playing further forward .

His main position is RB

He’s played a lot more games in midfield than he has as at right back in his career though.

[flash]

No good on them for sticking to their guns. It was the English clubs moaning about the fee for Doig and plenty of 'Hibs' fans in here saying they would sell him for a million.

Don't remember anybody saying a million was a good fee. Happy to be proved wrong.

[Since90+2]

To be fair the times I've seen Patterson he has looked quality. He looks a more robust and possibly more confident lad than Doig at this stage but obviously time will tell who goes on to have the better career.

[bigwheel]

To be fair the times I've seen Patterson has has looked quality. He looks a more robust and possibly more confident lad than Doig at this stage but obviously time will tell who goes on to have the better career.

I’d agree with that ..he’s also a full international

[Bostonhibby]

I thought Paul Hanlon had a brilliant 20/21 season, and it was one of the main reasons we finished where we did in the league.Same here, but what do I know?[emoji16]

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[04Sauzee]

To be fair the times I've seen Patterson he has looked quality. He looks a more robust and possibly more confident lad than Doig at this stage but obviously time will tell who goes on to have the better career.

Think he has looked decent for rangers but haven't seen him play for a rangers team that's really had to defend. Didn't think he looked all that great playing for Scotland U21s whenever I managed to catch their games. Obviously Rangers rate him very highly.

[WhileTheChief..]

Nathan Paterson - opening offer £5m from Everton.

Branded a derisory offer https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/steven-gerrard-brands-everton-nathan-24815102.amp.

Yet we with Josh Doig, who’s played double the games that Paterson has, and won YPOY, are branded unrealistic for wanting >£4m, and are accused of stifling his career? Double standards with the OF as per.

Who's saying we're stifling Doig's career?

[delbert]

I’d agree with that ..he’s also a full international

Mate, if a dog got run over outside Castle Greyskull and somebody took off their Sevco strip to wrap it in, that dog would have more chance of a Scotland cap than the vast majority of professional footballers in Scotland.

[bigwheel]

Mate, if a dog got run over outside Castle Greyskull and somebody took off their Sevco strip to wrap it in, that dog would have more chance of a Scotland cap than the vast majority of professional footballers in Scotland.

Hahaha [emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]

[ScottB]

Doig isn’t a cap yet because two of our best players are in his position. I’d wager if he was also a RB he’d have gotten one…

[Since90+2]

Doig isn’t a cap yet because two of our best players are in his position. I’d wager if he was also a RB he’d have gotten one…

I don't think Doig is good enough defensively at the moment to play international football. Very talented boy who will likely go far in the game though.

[SMAXXA]

I don't think Doig is good enough defensively at the moment to play international football. Very talented boy who will likely go far in the game though.

I’ve seen a lot of this on Twitter suddenly he’s not good enough defensively but from what I’ve seen in the last season and so far now that’s completely not true. I think the cup final goal and some people looking at him for yesterday’s second (completely wrongly) is driving this narrative. He looks as good if not better defensively than the lad Patterson but his attributes are very similar to JD he’s better going forward but doesn’t mean that’s all he can do.

[Since90+2]

I’ve seen a lot of this on Twitter suddenly he’s not good enough defensively but from what I’ve seen in the last season and so far now that’s completely not true. I think the cup final goal and some people looking at him for yesterday’s second (completely wrongly) is driving this narrative. He looks as good if not better defensively than the lad Patterson but his attributes are very similar to JD he’s better going forward but doesn’t mean that’s all he can do.

I said he's not good enough defensively for international level football yet IMO. I think he is for SPL standard.

[AlbertK86]

The lack of positional awareness from the central defenders and midfielders is not helping Josh defensively.

He has been blamed wrongly for lack of cover losing his man yesterday and previously.

On these occasions he had his man covered and had to move in at last minute to cover the scorer as the CHs had been dragged way over to the right into no mans land and were marking nobody. Think Mickey Stewart pointed out after Euro game that neither CH was in front of the goals where they should be. Happened again yesterday.

At the same time Gogic let the man run off him at the last minute as he was ball watching and not for the first time.

Josh still has a lot to learn defensively but that will come with experience and maybe needs to be more vocal with his team mates if he sees them straying from where they should be.


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[Bangkok Hibby]

I’ve seen a lot of this on Twitter suddenly he’s not good enough defensively but from what I’ve seen in the last season and so far now that’s completely not true. I think the cup final goal and some people looking at him for yesterday’s second (completely wrongly) is driving this narrative. He looks as good if not better defensively than the lad Patterson but his attributes are very similar to JD he’s better going forward but doesn’t mean that’s all he can do.

It's not just the goals though. Hibs on both left and right sides struggle to stop crosses. Yes he's young and he's developing superbly especially as an attacking full back. He must improve his defensive qualities though before he can be considered the finished article. Not putting him down in any way and I'm glad we have him.

[Hibees1973]

I feel if Hibs get offered £4m for Nisbet and £3m for Doig, they should take it. The way the transfer market is in Scotland, out side of the OF, it would take an exceptional player for any club to get more than this. Nisbet and Doig are good, not exceptional. If Hibs attach clauses such as, club appearances, international caps and a reasonable sell on fee it would be good business.

We must cash in our our assets at their maximum value and I feel these figures are accurate for the pair. Players can lose form quickly or get injured.

Graeme Mathie and the other guys at Hibs have a fairly good record in the transfer market.

[ahibby]

I dont see us being able to find replacements at this late stage so dont think we should now be selling anyone this window. Apart from our CBs we dint seem ti be able to tackle a fish supper but doesnt stip us wracking up points..

[Jim44]

I dont see us being able to find replacements at this late stage so dont think we should now be selling anyone this window. Apart from our CBs we dint seem ti be able to tackle a fish supper but doesnt stip us wracking up points..

The Doig situation seems to have died down, with rumours about Celtic and Nisbet, (described by JR as nonsense) the only one on the horizon. I agree it’s getting a bit close to the deadline and my only concern is that they leave it till the last minute to make a derisory offer in the hope we will roll over and accept it. Fortunately I think RG, GM and JR are too long in the tooth to fall for it.

[easty]

I feel if Hibs get offered £4m for Nisbet and £3m for Doig, they should take it. The way the transfer market is in Scotland, out side of the OF, it would take an exceptional player for any club to get more than this. Nisbet and Doig are good, not exceptional. If Hibs attach clauses such as, club appearances, international caps and a reasonable sell on fee it would be good business.

We must cash in our our assets at their maximum value and I feel these figures are accurate for the pair. Players can lose form quickly or get injured.

Graeme Mathie and the other guys at Hibs have a fairly good record in the transfer market.

£4m and £3m aren’t those players maximum values though.

[jeffers]

I dont see us being able to find replacements at this late stage so dont think we should now be selling anyone this window. Apart from our CBs we dint seem ti be able to tackle a fish supper but doesnt stip us wracking up points..

In Doig’s case it was only a few weeks ago he was dropped ‘cos we thought he was leaving so I’d be amazed if we didn’t have a replacement lined up.

[easty]

I’d agree with that ..he’s also a full international

At right back though, where it’s much much easier to get in the Scotland squad than at left back. Our first choice right back is a Motherwell player. They had the third worst defence in the league last season, but managed to get 2 of them in the Scotland squad!

[SHODAN]

Line-up vs Hearts after injuries and player sales, 11th September 2021:


Macey

McGregor Hanlon Stevenson

Boyle Gogic Doyle-Hayes Murphy

Allan

Scott Gullan


:devil:

[Silky]

Line-up vs Hearts after injuries and player sales, 11th September 2021:


Macey

McGregor Hanlon Stevenson

Boyle Gogic Doyle-Hayes Murphy

Allan

Scott Gullan


:devil:

Magennis away? Or injured?

[Highwayman]

Nathan Paterson - opening offer £5m from Everton.

Branded a derisory offer https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/steven-gerrard-brands-everton-nathan-24815102.amp.

Yet we with Josh Doig, who’s played double the games that Paterson has, and won YPOY, are branded unrealistic for wanting >£4m, and are accused of stifling his career? Double standards with the OF as per.

What about Hibs offering to do the Huns a favour and take Nathan Paterson on loan to give him some much needed first team experience.
I mean we are in desperate need of a decent right back.

[SHODAN]

Magennis away? Or injured?

Ah yeah, stick him in in place of Gogic. Still not a bad line-up all things considered!

[Since452]

Line-up vs Hearts after injuries and player sales, 11th September 2021:


Macey

McGregor Hanlon Stevenson

Boyle Gogic Doyle-Hayes Murphy

Allan

Scott Gullan


:devil:

Hearts 0 Hibs 3

[Jim44]

Line-up vs Hearts after injuries and player sales, 11th September 2021:


Macey

McGregor Hanlon Stevenson

Boyle Gogic Doyle-Hayes Murphy

Allan

Scott Gullan


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I was going to suggest you’re being a bit mischievous till I saw your devil smiley. FWIW, I don’t think they’ll all be away then. In fact, I think they’ll all still be with us and will have shrugged off their disappointment.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Hearts 0 Hibs 3

Macey MOTM 🙂

[Just_Jimmy]

Macey MOTM [emoji846]with a clean sheet and a hatrick.

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[Stuart93]

Hearts announced woodburn

Can’t help but feel we’re dragging our feet a bit with Scott only being rushed in the door due to doidge and nisbet being out yesterday.

We need another couple in ASAP

[Since452]

Hearts announced woodburn

Can’t help but feel we’re dragging our feet a bit with Scott only being rushed in the door due to doidge and nisbet being out yesterday.

We need another couple in ASAP

I wouldn't be delighted if we signed Woodburn. More clubs than Tiger Woods and only 21. Doesn't bode well.

[hibee1875]

I hate this term “dragging our feet” when it comes to transfer dealings as if the club officials are like oh look, 5pm, I’ll pick this up tomorrow.

I’m sure Ross has made it clear exactly who/what he wants and the club are going all out to get them.

Documentaries like Sunderland till I die show how hard it is dealing with agents and clubs to get the players you want

[Stuart93]

I wouldn't be delighted if we signed Woodburn. More clubs than Tiger Woods and only 21. Doesn't bode well.

Suppose we’ll see. Would’ve been a decent signing at one point but his careers not really taken off as expected. Must be some reason Liverpool were keen to keep him contracted to them though.

Hopefully see a CB in the next few days. Well overdue now. Worried we put all our eggs in the one McCart shaped basket.

[Stuart93]

I hate this term “dragging our feet” when it comes to transfer dealings as if the club officials are like oh look, 5pm, I’ll pick this up tomorrow.

I’m sure Ross has made it clear exactly who/what he wants and the club are going all out to get them.

JR said early July he wanted a CB in the door. It’s now a week before the window closes and we’re still waiting on one coming in whilst having to rely on our current 36 year old cover.

[LancsHibs]

Hearts announced woodburn


Saw quite a bit of this lad last season online at Blackpool where he joined on loan with great promise. He was awful, a massive disappointment, lost his stating place in the team and was punted back to Liverpool in January. Maybe he’s improved? I doubt it. Nothing to worry about there, Jambos sign another dud:greengrin

[Since452]

Suppose we’ll see. Would’ve been a decent signing at one point but his careers not really taken off as expected. Must be some reason Liverpool were keen to keep him contracted to them though.

Hopefully see a CB in the next few days. Well overdue now. Worried we put all our eggs in the one McCart shaped basket.

Must have something about him or he'd have been released. Time will tell as you say. The more I see of McCart the more I'm not keen on him.

[Stuart93]

Must have something about him or he'd have been released. Time will tell as you say. The more I see of McCart the more I'm not keen on him.

Watched him in Europe, wasn’t overly impressed with what I seen. Something has to give this week. Injuries certainly aren’t helping us & mean signings have become a lot more urgent

[#2 Double Tap]

Suppose we’ll see. Would’ve been a decent signing at one point but his careers not really taken off as expected. Must be some reason Liverpool were keen to keep him contracted to them though.

Hopefully see a CB in the next few days. Well overdue now. Worried we put all our eggs in the one McCart shaped basket.

I once heard a wise man put all his eggs in one basket, then just watched the basket. ;)

[hibee1875]

JR said early July he wanted a CB in the door. It’s now a week before the window closes and we’re still waiting on one coming in whilst having to rely on our current 36 year old cover.

If clubs knock back our offers for their players there’s not much we can do. Do you want the club paying over their price budget for players they don’t rate at that value?

[Peevemor]

JR said early July he wanted a CB in the door. It’s now a week before the window closes and we’re still waiting on one coming in whilst having to rely on our current 36 year old cover.

Do you think anyone at the club has realised? Maybe someone should send them an email or something...

[Brightside]

Suppose we’ll see. Would’ve been a decent signing at one point but his careers not really taken off as expected. Must be some reason Liverpool were keen to keep him contracted to them though.

Hopefully see a CB in the next few days. Well overdue now. Worried we put all our eggs in the one McCart shaped basket.

If we sell a Doig or Niz or even Porto.....we suddenly are shopping in a different class of strore. Very tricky to get this one right.

[Gordy M]

If we sell a Doig or Niz or even Porto.....we suddenly are shopping in a different class of strore. Very tricky to get this one right.

Exactly this.

[Key West]

Magennis away? Or injured?

Macey
Porteous McGregor Hanlon Doig
Boyle Doyle-Hayes Newell Magennis
Scott Nisbet

[Since452]

If we sell a Doig or Niz or even Porto.....we suddenly are shopping in a different class of strore. Very tricky to get this one right.

Yup it's tough. I think one of those three will leave but we can't wait around for a big bid forever. We've been fortunate with the team's we've played so far, it's buying us a bit of time.

[Dublin07]

Macey
Porteous McGregor Hanlon Doig
Boyle Doyle-Hayes Newell Magennis
Scott Nisbet

Wouldnae fancy going into a derby with Scott nisbet upfront. He must be about 60 and was a defender in his day. Also more injury prone than cadden.

[loanheadhibby]

JR said early July he wanted a CB in the door. It’s now a week before the window closes and we’re still waiting on one coming in whilst having to rely on our current 36 year old cover.

It’s a good point. Same happens every season and we end up muddling along with what we have.

Once window slams shut, we still have option of signing players without clubs.

[ancient hibee]

Onviously St.Js. transfer policy depends on Europe progress.If they get through on Thursday nobody will be leaving. If they don’t it’ll be open season.

[easty]

Must have something about him or he'd have been released.

Hopefully he has a similar impact Islam Feruz had with us. He also had an unsuccessful loan spell at Blackpool before coming to Scotland.

[Clarence]

Wouldnae fancy going into a derby with Scott nisbet upfront. He must be about 60 and was a defender in his day. Also more injury prone than cadden.

He’s been preserved in wet look hair gel since the 80s so he could still do a job.

[Stuart93]

Do you think anyone at the club has realised? Maybe someone should send them an email or something...

Nice to see you back with your arsey responses, they certainly weren’t missed. Whereas others have replied and actually added something to the debate.

[Stuart93]

If we sell a Doig or Niz or even Porto.....we suddenly are shopping in a different class of strore. Very tricky to get this one right.

Yep that’s true. But if none are sold we’re not leaving ourselves with much time.

Would’ve probably been comfortable with that narrative at the start of the month but this late in the day it’s a risky strategy

[Peevemor]

Nice to see you back with your arsey responses, they certainly weren’t missed. Whereas others have replied and actually added something to the debate.

So is it nice to see me back or not? I'm confused.