Summer 2021-22 transfer thread

[HendoDelivered]

Doig to Watford is on

Loaned back to us for a season is what I heard a few weeks ago from a pal of his.

[Walter]

Also heard this today, 3 million the quoted few. Apparently had a leaving night? Source: third hand info so maybe rubbish.
Theres a fair bit of £5M to Arsenal chat on Twatter however seems like it might something overheard on a no 26 bus

[sadtom]

10, 15 or 20% with a further percentage to St M. Is hardly the ‘eye watering’ add on clause that Steve Bruce was quoted as saying at the time SJM was transferred. That would seem pretty standard or even at the low end of add on clauses.

[Billy Whizz]

10, 15 or 20% with a further percentage to St M. Is hardly the ‘eye watering’ add on clause that Steve Bruce was quoted as saying at the time SJM was transferred. That would seem pretty standard or even at the low end of add on clauses.

Think what Bruce meant, was the amount of clauses in his contract

[Jones28]

10, 15 or 20% with a further percentage to St M. Is hardly the ‘eye watering’ add on clause that Steve Bruce was quoted as saying at the time SJM was transferred. That would seem pretty standard or even at the low end of add on clauses.

20% of £30m is £6m, even with a 3rd going to St Mirren he’s still bagged Hibs a £7m fee.

It’s all relative but that’s pretty eye watering to me.

[Billy Whizz]

20% of £30m is £6m, even with a 3rd going to St Mirren he’s still bagged Hibs a £7m fee.

It’s all relative but that’s pretty eye watering to me.

We wouldn’t get it all in Omer though, would be spread over the contract term

[Jones28]

We wouldn’t get it all in Omer though, would be spread over the contract term

It’s still a lot of money. Put it this way, it’s no good for us SJM staying at Villa.

[04Sauzee]

Jack Gurr joins Aberdeen from Atlanta United https://t.co/guSjX8ZFDR https://t.co/FIdAvOkxWo

[sadtom]

Think what Bruce meant, was the amount of clauses in his contract

I don’t think that is the case. But if it is, what are they?
There will be nothing in McGinns contract with Villa that St M get anything. That will only exist in the contract Hibs have with St M.
So other than a specific sum due to Hibs. What other clauses are in the contract (which would be an amount that could be described as ‘eye watering’?)

[Walter]

I don’t think that is the case. But if it is, what are they?
There will be nothing in McGinns contract with Villa that St M get anything. That will only exist in the contract Hibs have with St M.
So other than a specific sum due to Hibs. What other clauses are in the contract (which would be an amount that could be described as ‘eye watering’?)

Did we not get about £1M when they got promoted to prem ?

[sadtom]

20% of £30m is £6m, even with a 3rd going to St Mirren he’s still bagged Hibs a £7m fee.

It’s all relative but that’s pretty eye watering to me.

As a sum of money it’s eye watering to me too. But when S Bruce made the comment there was no talk of a 30m deal. SJM might have flopped at Villa and his next move may have been for peanuts. Hibs might have been getting enough to buy a set of bibs.
To me it’s clear that SB meant the percentage amount was ‘eye watering’. For me that would mean in excess of 20% to be described in those terms.

[Greenbeard]

We wouldn’t get it all in Omer though, would be spread over the contract term
Omer? Is that one of these new crypto currencies?

[sadtom]

Did we not get about £1M when they got promoted to prem ?

Not to my knowledge. Would that not have been in the accounts from last year?

[Iain G]

Jack Gurr joins Aberdeen from Atlanta United https://t.co/guSjX8ZFDR https://t.co/FIdAvOkxWo

Hope he gets shirt number 8 😁

[Big_Franck]

As a sum of money it’s eye watering to me too. But when S Bruce made the comment there was no talk of a 30m deal. SJM might have flopped at Villa and his next move may have been for peanuts. Hibs might have been getting enough to buy a set of bibs.
To me it’s clear that SB meant the percentage amount was ‘eye watering’. For me that would mean in excess of 20% to be described in those terms.

This was covered at the AGM. Someone at the club said he'd checked the contract and it is a 15% sell on that we have. He also confirmed that we need to give 30% of that to St Mirren.

[CropleyWasGod]

Not to my knowledge. Would that not have been in the accounts from last year?

It wouldn't have been disclosed separately.

[04Sauzee]

Jake Doyle Hayes supposedly close to signing for Dundee Utd

[w pilton hibby]

Regan Henry to sign for Forest Green?

https://the72.co.uk/240133/forest-green-set-to-beat-aberdeen-hibernian-to-deal-for-10-goal-assist-midfielder/

[SHODAN]

Hope he gets shirt number 8 😁

Amazing

[Dmas]

Not to my knowledge. Would that not have been in the accounts from last year?

Think it was 600k from a promotion bonus 2 years back tho so accounts year before last?

[Eyrie]

Hope he gets shirt number 8 😁

As long as he doesn't live up to it.

[Iggy Pope]

Hope he gets shirt number 8 😁

That’s pretty good :greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

10, 15 or 20% with a further percentage to St M. Is hardly the ‘eye watering’ add on clause that Steve Bruce was quoted as saying at the time SJM was transferred. That would seem pretty standard or even at the low end of add on clauses.

The Steve Bruce eye watering stuff is a hibs.net FACT.

[SMAXXA]

As a sum of money it’s eye watering to me too. But when S Bruce made the comment there was no talk of a 30m deal. SJM might have flopped at Villa and his next move may have been for peanuts. Hibs might have been getting enough to buy a set of bibs.
To me it’s clear that SB meant the percentage amount was ‘eye watering’. For me that would mean in excess of 20% to be described in those terms.

No idea why your being so arsey about it tbh, maybe SB had the foresight to see he would go for big money? With the fees being quoted and the money we get is certainly substantial and in our terms in the Scottish game pretty eye watering.

[w pilton hibby]

From the official site -

Hibernian FC can confirm defender Callum Yeats has completed a move to Queen's Park.

The 19-year-old, who worked his way through the Hibernian Academy, spent the 2020/21 campaign on loan at League Two side Stenhousemuir to gain valuable senior experience, and the newly-promoted Spiders were keen to add 'Scholesy' to their ranks for their bid to secure back-to-back promotions this coming term.

Sporting Director Graeme Mathie commented: “Callum has been at the Hibernian Academy from a young age and has always shown a great desire to be a professional player throughout his journey.

"He impressed in both his loan spells at Civil Service Strollers in the Lowland League and also at Stenhousemuir in League Two and to join an ambitious League One club is a great next step for him.

"Everyone at Hibernian wishes him every success for his career going forward and thanks him for at his efforts throughout his time at the club.”

[Brightside]

Hearts Pirlo away to German 3rd div.

[.Sean.]

From the official site -

Hibernian FC can confirm defender Callum Yeats has completed a move to Queen's Park.

The 19-year-old, who worked his way through the Hibernian Academy, spent the 2020/21 campaign on loan at League Two side Stenhousemuir to gain valuable senior experience, and the newly-promoted Spiders were keen to add 'Scholesy' to their ranks for their bid to secure back-to-back promotions this coming term.

Sporting Director Graeme Mathie commented: “Callum has been at the Hibernian Academy from a young age and has always shown a great desire to be a professional player throughout his journey.

"He impressed in both his loan spells at Civil Service Strollers in the Lowland League and also at Stenhousemuir in League Two and to join an ambitious League One club is a great next step for him.

"Everyone at Hibernian wishes him every success for his career going forward and thanks him for at his efforts throughout his time at the club.”Wasnt he quite highly rated?

[007]

10, 15 or 20% with a further percentage to St M. Is hardly the ‘eye watering’ add on clause that Steve Bruce was quoted as saying at the time SJM was transferred. That would seem pretty standard or even at the low end of add on clauses.

Was it not confirmed at the AGM it is 15% with 30% of that going to St Mirren? Meaning Hibs get 10.5% and St Mirren get 4.5%.

[WhileTheChief..]

Looks like some of you need to start paying attention at the AGM.

So many figures being quoted. Does anyone actually know for sure?!

[Since90+2]

Looks like some of you need to start paying attention at the AGM.

So many figures being quoted. Does anyone actually know for sure?!

The post above yours is correct.

[Billy Whizz]

Looks like some of you need to start paying attention at the AGM.

So many figures being quoted. Does anyone actually know for sure?!

Don’t think it helps when the owner and the FD say different things at the AGM. Go and read the thread, and then tell us what the real answer is

[WhileTheChief..]

Don’t think it helps when the owner and the FD say different things at the AGM. Go and read the thread, and then tell us what the real answer is

The post above yours is correct :wink:

[Brightside]

Wasnt he quite highly rated?

Yes - but everyone is busy debating a percentage sell on for a player who isnt even subject to a bid right now.

[banchoryhibs]

Don’t think it helps when the owner and the FD say different things at the AGM. Go and read the thread, and then tell us what the real answer is

SJM was sold prior to Ron's tenure so it's not surprising that Ron was not 100% accurate with the transfer details. What is very refreshing is that the Board was very open about the sell on clause. Previously this detail would have been kept from us.

[w pilton hibby]

Wasnt he quite highly rated?

Was spoken about as a very good prospect. It's a strange one as he signed a new one-year contract extension in April this year.

[SaulGoodman]

Griffiths commenting on Scott Allans insta posts definitely means that Groffitshs is coming back to us, nothing to with the fact they were Celtic teammates. 100% it’s happening.

Edit: Potential for being the worst spelling of Griffiths ever seen on Hibs.bet but I’m leaving it.

[CMurdoch]

Griffiths commenting on Scott Allans insta posts definitely means that Groffitshs is coming back to us, nothing to with the fact they were Celtic teammates. 100% it’s happening.

Edit: Potential for being the worst spelling of Griffiths ever seen on Hibs.bet but I’m leaving it.

New guy starts at Cellik on Thursday
A desperate Griffiths will be waiting on him.
Lawell will have marked his card.
Leigh to Hibs stories to start late next week.

[JimBHibees]

Hearts Pirlo away to German 3rd div.

Yep couldn't believe that. Third division in Germany? Why

[GreenCastle]

New guy starts at Cellik on Thursday
A desperate Griffiths will be waiting on him.
Lawell will have marked his card.
Leigh to Hibs stories to start late next week.

They were talking about him on the radio the other day and said he was back training at Celtic early - trying to come back in better shape.

[Billy Whizz]

From the official site -

Hibernian FC can confirm defender Callum Yeats has completed a move to Queen's Park.

The 19-year-old, who worked his way through the Hibernian Academy, spent the 2020/21 campaign on loan at League Two side Stenhousemuir to gain valuable senior experience, and the newly-promoted Spiders were keen to add 'Scholesy' to their ranks for their bid to secure back-to-back promotions this coming term.

Sporting Director Graeme Mathie commented: “Callum has been at the Hibernian Academy from a young age and has always shown a great desire to be a professional player throughout his journey.

"He impressed in both his loan spells at Civil Service Strollers in the Lowland League and also at Stenhousemuir in League Two and to join an ambitious League One club is a great next step for him.

"Everyone at Hibernian wishes him every success for his career going forward and thanks him for at his efforts throughout his time at the club.”

Callum was highly rated, one of the few the coaches thought had a real chance. We’ve got another young boy, 2 years younger than Scholsey, Jayden Fairley who can play the same position. Maybe they see him as a better prospect than CY

[Highwayman]

New guy starts at Cellik on Thursday
A desperate Griffiths will be waiting on him.
Lawell will have marked his card.
Leigh to Hibs stories to start late next week.

Can someone smarter than me (which wouldn’t be hard) explain the Griffiths situation.

As far as I understood his contract with Celtic ended on 31 May and Celtic didn’t opt to extend it for another year

That reads like he is no longer employed by Celtic,so why is it reported he is still hanging about and training with them.

[chippy]

Callum was highly rated, one of the few the coaches thought had a real chance. We’ve got another young boy, 2 years younger than Scholsey, Jayden Fairley who can play the same position. Maybe they see him as a better prospect than CY

Callum is left back and I thought Jayden was a right sided midfielder are you sure he’s for the same position. Callum is smallish for a left back these days at 5.7 I suppose

[Jim44]

Can someone smarter than me (which wouldn’t be hard) explain the Griffiths situation.

As far as I understood his contract with Celtic ended on 31 May and Celtic didn’t opt to extend it for another year

That reads like he is no longer employed by Celtic,so why is it reported he is still hanging about and training with them.

Griffiths’ contract/extension of contract seems to be a bit of a grey area, although I think it is officially at an end. I think he is, very publicly doing a lot of training, but not officially with Celtic. By all accounts, negotiations with the new Celtic boss are well down the line and staying with Celtic is his top priority. I think the ball is deeply in Celtic’s court and they know they will get him on a much reduced wage than he was on for the last few years. Unless Celtic say, enough is enough, and give him the thumbs down, I think he is certain to sign for them.

Ps ...... I am not smarter than you and know as little as you, but, I think it’s not too difficult to read between the lines.

[GreenPJ]

Can someone smarter than me (which wouldn’t be hard) explain the Griffiths situation.

As far as I understood his contract with Celtic ended on 31 May and Celtic didn’t opt to extend it for another year

That reads like he is no longer employed by Celtic,so why is it reported he is still hanging about and training with them.

So the contractual terms and conditions he was on on his previous contract will have lapsed as at 31 May as Celtic did not take up their offer to extend. They could have then suggested an alternative contract on reduced terms to him for his consideration or at least suggested that that may be something that is a possibility and so looks like he is hanging out for that.

I think a 25-30% reduction on his previous terms would still likely price him out of our range.

[Billy Whizz]

Callum is left back and I thought Jayden was a right sided midfielder are you sure he’s for the same position. Callum is smallish for a left back these days at 5.7 I suppose

The few games he played for the development I was at, he played a left wingback position, as he’s a leftie. I’ve no idea where Hibs think he’ll play long term
Callum is small, but makes it up with his tenacious tackling and running

[007]

So the contractual terms and conditions he was on on his previous contract will have lapsed as at 31 May as Celtic did not take up their offer to extend. They could have then suggested an alternative contract on reduced terms to him for his consideration or at least suggested that that may be something that is a possibility and so looks like he is hanging out for that.

I think a 25-30% reduction on his previous terms would still likely price him out of our range.

He'd have a better chance of getting back in the Scotland team if he was at Hibs starting every week. Maybe if Nisbet leaves we'll go for Griffiths.

[Jim44]

So the contractual terms and conditions he was on on his previous contract will have lapsed as at 31 May as Celtic did not take up their offer to extend. They could have then suggested an alternative contract on reduced terms to him for his consideration or at least suggested that that may be something that is a possibility and so looks like he is hanging out for that.

I think a 25-30% reduction on his previous terms would still likely price him out of our range.

How accurate these websites are is anybody’s guess, but £15 to 18k seems to be the figure being banded about. That suggests that even a 50-60% reduction would still be his best offer in Scotland. Of course he has to weigh that up against his opportunity for regular game time.

[CMurdoch]

So the contractual terms and conditions he was on on his previous contract will have lapsed as at 31 May as Celtic did not take up their offer to extend. They could have then suggested an alternative contract on reduced terms to him for his consideration or at least suggested that that may be something that is a possibility and so looks like he is hanging out for that.

I think a 25-30% reduction on his previous terms would still likely price him out of our range.

If Cellik offer him anything it will be at least 50% less per week than he was getting last season but that will still be loads more than he would get at Hibs.
Hibs wouldn't offer him more than £4k a week hence his desperation to stay home with the bhoys.

[chippy]

The few games he played for the development I was at, he played a left wingback position, as he’s a leftie. I’ve no idea where Hibs think he’ll play long term
Callum is small, but makes it up with his tenacious tackling and running

Cheers Billy,

[chippy]

If Cellik offer him anything it will be at least 50% less per week than he was getting last season but that will still be loads more than he would get at Hibs.
Hibs wouldn't offer him more than £4k a week hence his desperation to stay home with the bhoys.

id also have thought length of deal and potential bonuses would be a key factor. Will Celts offer more than a 1 year?

[Jim44]

id also have thought length of deal and potential bonuses would be a key factor. Will Celts offer more than a 1 year?

Given his vulnerability, I don’t think many clubs would be comfortable with more than a one year deal. As I said above, the ball is in Celtic’s court, and, if they are willing to take a chance on him, he’ll stay at Parkhead, on a much reduced wage.

[CraigHibee]

id also have thought length of deal and potential bonuses would be a key factor. Will Celts offer more than a 1 year?

Might be a 12 month rolling contract, if he stays with celtic and isn't up to scratch next season then they can cut their losses

[Since90+2]

Might be a 12 month rolling contract, if he stays with celtic and isn't up to scratch next season then they can cut their losses

Are rolling contracts for players a thing? I know it's used occasionally for manager appointments but don't think I've ever heard of a player being on one.

[Billy Whizz]

Are rolling contracts for players a thing? I know it's used occasionally for manager appointments but don't think I've ever heard of a player being on one.

Think a lot of players have contracts, that trigger an extension

[Since90+2]

Think a lot of players have contracts, that trigger an extension

Are rolling contracts not in relation to the notice period? For managers it typically means that if they wish to leave or be sacked either side has to provide 12 months notice (or be paid that amount in lieu of notice). Similarly if another club wants them they need to pay 12 months worth of salary as a fee.

[Billy Whizz]

Are rolling contracts not in relation to the notice period? For managers it typically means that if they wish to leave or be sacked either side has to provide 12 months notice (or be paid that amount in lieu of notice). Similarly if another club wants them they need to pay 12 months worth of salary as a fee.

What I meant was maybe they’ll offer him a contract, say play 30 games and you get a years extension
Maybe it was the posters terminology, you’re right, Managers seem to have rolling contracts

[sadtom]

No idea why your being so arsey about it tbh, maybe SB had the foresight to see he would go for big money? With the fees being quoted and the money we get is certainly substantial and in our terms in the Scottish game pretty eye watering.

WTF am I being “Arsey” about?
I asked a question and then replied civilly to the answers.
And I still don’t see 15% as being an unusually high add on. Pretty standard if you ask me. Nothing ‘eye watering’ about it.
You ok wi that? Or do I need your approval?

[SloopJB]

Hearts Pirlo away to German 3rd div.

Take it he wasn’t a first team player?

Didn’t even know he played for them.

[JimBHibees]

Take it he wasn’t a first team player?

Didn’t even know he played for them.

Played most of last season

[Stuart93]

Now that the Euros are over for us, my thoughts turn to signings.

Let’s get started.

[we are hibs]

Griffiths isnt signing. New celtic manager wants him to stay.

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[Jim44]

Griffiths isnt signing. New celtic manager wants him to stay.

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That comes as no surprise, if confirmed. If the new guy can get him on point, they have a bargain basement born again footballer. If the comments on KS are typical of the Celtic support, however, they will be distraught at the news. Mind you, their grief will only last five minutes if he starts banging in the goals.

[JXM73]

Griffiths isnt signing. New celtic manager wants him to stay.

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😁

[flash]

Griffiths isnt signing. New celtic manager wants him to stay.

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There's a shock.

[MWHIBBIES]

James Pearce saying Liverpool are interested in Mcginn but Villa want 50 million, so a deal is unlikely this summer.

[Ozyhibby]

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[MWHIBBIES]

Imo he's not worth 50 million, but he probably is to Villa, so they won't sell unless it's good money.

[Stuart93]

Imo he's not worth 50 million, but he probably is to Villa, so they won't sell unless it's good money.

I reckon these days in the English market he’s worth every penny of £50m for what he brings to a team

[.Sean.]

Imo he's not worth 50 million, but he probably is to Villa, so they won't sell unless it's good money.
He’s worth 50 million all day long down there

[MWHIBBIES]

He’s worth 50 million all day long down there

Disagree. He's a tier below some of the players moving for 50 million. If he was a 50 million pound player, Villa would be wanting much more.

[GreenCastle]

James Pearce saying Liverpool are interested in Mcginn but Villa want 50 million, so a deal is unlikely this summer.

Villa have just brought in a highly rated young midfielder from Norwich - Emiliano Buendía. Cost them around £33 million plus £5 million add ons.

Villa owners have a lot of ££ and don’t really need to sell anyone. McGinn is now good mates with Grealish and they enjoy playing together.

Liverpool though are looking to add more to the midfield especially after losing Wijnaldum who is a much better player than McGinn.

I don’t think McGinn will stay at Villa forever but I think he will stay another season at least alongside Grealish - but then can’t see them both leaving at same time as Villa fans would be going mad 2 of their favourite players leave the club.

[GloryGlory]

Villa have just brought in a highly rated young midfielder from Norwich - Emiliano Buendía. Cost them around £33 million plus £5 million add ons.

Villa owners have a lot of ££ and don’t really need to sell anyone. McGinn is now good mates with Grealish and they enjoy playing together.

Liverpool though are looking to add more to the midfield especially after losing Wijnaldum who is a much better player than McGinn.

I don’t think McGinn will stay at Villa forever but I think he will stay another season at least alongside Grealish - but then can’t see them both leaving at same time as Villa fans would be going mad 2 of their favourite players leave the club.

Out of the two, which player do you think Villa would prefer to keep - Grealish or Mcginn? That might determine how they manage transfer business in this window?

[GreenCastle]

Out of the two, which player do you think Villa would prefer to keep - Grealish or Mcginn? That might determine how they manage transfer business in this window?

They will want to keep Grealish. So maybe tempted to let SJM leave..if a massive offer comes in with some players in exchange.

But Grealish is also a better player and like Harry Kane will only stay for so long then move on to win more.

[mayo hibee]

https://the72.co.uk/240254/preston-north-end-linked-jimmy-dunne-to-leave-burnley/

Jimmy Dunne leaving Burnley and available on a free - were we not linked to him previously? Did well at Hearts a few years ago but I'm sure we could forgive and forget...

[Cat Stanton]

Griffiths sounding very hopeful of a new Septic contract:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57578436

What's the opposite of a Haymaker post?

[SHODAN]

Griffiths sounding very hopeful of a new Septic contract:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57578436

What's the opposite of a Haymaker post?

:paranoid:

[Stuart93]

Regan Hendry confirmed at Forrest Green, thought he was destined for a bigger move than that

[flash]

Regan Hendry confirmed at Forrest Green, thought he was destined for a bigger move than that

Presumably no top division side up here wanted him which is pretty surprising.

[Highwayman]

Haven’t got a clue whether Aston Villa can get £50 million for John McGinn.

But just say they did has it been worked out how much Hibs would get from that deal.

[scoopyboy]

Haven’t got a clue whether Aston Villa can get £50 million for John McGinn.

But just say they did has it been worked out how much Hibs would get from that deal.

Villa get 85%, we get 10.5% and St.Mirren get 4.5%

[Haymaker]

:paranoid:

Correct

[Stuart93]

Presumably no top division side up here wanted him which is pretty surprising.

Definitely think he was worth a chance

[Iain G]

Haven’t got a clue whether Aston Villa can get £50 million for John McGinn.

But just say they did has it been worked out how much Hibs would get from that deal.

An eyewatering amount!

[badabing67]

So if Griffiths is staying at Celtic and we need another striker, who should we be targeting then??? We need to start things moving the squad is due back on Monday.

[HFC93]

Imo he's not worth 50 million, but he probably is to Villa, so they won't sell unless it's good money.

When you look at some the rubbish teams in England pay tens of millions for, I would say McGinn is comfortably in the £40 million price range.

[GloryGlory]

So if Griffiths is staying at Celtic and we need another striker, who should we be targeting then??? We need to start things moving the squad is due back on Monday.

Plus Nisbet and Boyle will presumably be away for at least another couple of weeks to allow them a break, due to their international commitments. I hope we're not going into our Euro games with only Doidge as striker.

[GloryGlory]

Presumably no top division side up here wanted him which is pretty surprising.

Or maybe he wasn't a priority for them.

[MyJo]

Haven’t got a clue whether Aston Villa can get £50 million for John McGinn.

But just say they did has it been worked out how much Hibs would get from that deal.

We'd get £7.5m and have to give £2.25m to St Mirren so £5.25m net.

We would have made over £7m and St Mirren about £3.5m in total from the deal if that comes to pass.

[chippy]

Villa have just brought in a highly rated young midfielder from Norwich - Emiliano Buendía. Cost them around £33 million plus £5 million add ons.

Villa owners have a lot of ££ and don’t really need to sell anyone. McGinn is now good mates with Grealish and they enjoy playing together.

Liverpool though are looking to add more to the midfield especially after losing Wijnaldum who is a much better player than McGinn.

I don’t think McGinn will stay at Villa forever but I think he will stay another season at least alongside Grealish - but then can’t see them both leaving at same time as Villa fans would be going mad 2 of their favourite players leave the club.

If Liverpool or Man U come calling, at age 26 you don’t piss around. Money plus profile plus champs league plus medals, No brainer. Villa are not the power they were

[GreenCastle]

Regan Hendry confirmed at Forrest Green, thought he was destined for a bigger move than that

Be interesting to know if Hibs were interested.

Seems to have been a fans favourite at Raith and potential to go further. Would have liked to have seen him at Hibs.

[GreenCastle]

If Liverpool or Man U come calling, at age 26 you don’t piss around. Money plus profile plus champs league plus medals, No brainer. Villa are not the power they were

Can’t see him starting every week in Utd or Liverpool though. He maybe feels another season playing EPL will be beneficial. I get what your saying though. McGinn will want to play Champions League at some point.

[Jim44]

Plus Nisbet and Boyle will presumably be away for at least another couple of weeks to allow them a break, due to their international commitments. I hope we're not going into our Euro games with only Doidge as striker.

It doesn’t look promising. Is Jamie Gullan going to be available or is he going out on loan again? If Boyle and Nisbet are still with us I would have thought they would have wanted to be involved in our European games.

[Tambo]

Griffiths sounding very hopeful of a new Septic contract:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57578436

What's the opposite of a Haymaker post?

He obviously don’t want to come back so let’s not hang about and wait for him.

Also would like to see us start moving come next week with the ins and out.

[flash]

Plus Nisbet and Boyle will presumably be away for at least another couple of weeks to allow them a break, due to their international commitments. I hope we're not going into our Euro games with only Doidge as striker.

The teams we are playing in first round we could play literally anyone of the squad up front and still win.

[The Harp Awakes]

He obviously don’t want to come back so let’s not hang about and wait for him.

Also would like to see us start moving come next week with the ins and out.

Money talks unfortunately. As others have pointed out, whatever Celtic offer him in a new contract will be shed loads more than he would get at Hibs. While there will be an emotional pull for him to come back to Hibs, the wage gap completely blows the option out of the water.

Our only hope is that Celtic don't want him.

[matty_f]

McGinn is definitely worth £50m in the EPL, he’s a brilliant player. He’s been influential in virtually every game he’s played down there against some of the best midfielders going.

[DetroitHibs]

When you look at how much Fred cost Man Utd. I'd say SJM is easily in the £50 million bracket.

[blackpoolhibs]

When you look at how much Fred cost Man Utd. I'd say SJM is easily in the £50 million bracket.
Exactly, he's a £50m player all day long in that league.:agree:

[scoopyboy]

We'd get £7.5m and have to give £2.25m to St Mirren so £5.25m net.

We would have made over £7m and St Mirren about £3.5m in total from the deal if that comes to pass.

It was confirmed at the AGM that we get 15% and then have to pay 30% of that to St.Mirren (ie 4.5% of the total)

So if its 50 million Villa get 42.5, we get 5.25 and SM get 2.25 million.

[silverhibee]

Griffiths sounding very hopeful of a new Septic contract:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57578436

What's the opposite of a Haymaker post?

I listened to the full interview and Griffiths blamed everyone at Celtc for not getting a game last season, he admits coming back and not being in the best condition but says he was fit enough to be on the bench, he speaks about a couple of games that he came on as a sub and scored but still didn’t get a run, I’m sure Lennon could say what about the other games he done nothing, says he had a good chat with the new manager, we are only hearing one side here, Celtc if they wanted him to stay would have activated the extra year, guys like Kennedy who never gave Griffiths much time when he was in charge will also have a chat with the manager and give his views about players as well, Angie getting things wrong at the start will see the GB making banners daily :greengrin if you were a celtc fan you would be wondering why he didn’t put in the hard work through the season to impress Lennon and fans to activate the extra year.

I’ll still have him at Hibs though..

[Highwayman]

At the time of this post there was nearly 2,850 posts on this thread.

Probably the majority of them pleading for Griffiths to come home.

Well he’s not coming now because he’d rather play with the bigger boys.

[J-C]

Plus Nisbet and Boyle will presumably be away for at least another couple of weeks to allow them a break, due to their international commitments. I hope we're not going into our Euro games with only Doidge as striker.

We have Gullan bacķ

[chippy]

We have Gullan bacķ

possibly Ethan Laidlaw too, sorted.

[silverhibee]

At the time of this post there was nearly 2,850 posts on this thread.

Probably the majority of them pleading for Griffiths to come home.

Well he’s not coming now because he’d rather play with the bigger boys.

You don’t always get what you want.

[GreenCastle]

When you look at how much Fred cost Man Utd. I'd say SJM is easily in the £50 million bracket.

SJM also under contract till 2025.

Fred hasn’t play loads for Brazil but it’s a higher level than SJM. He had won 3 league titles in Ukraine before going to Man U.

SJM has played 36 times for Scotland - played some important games and now a major tournament - he’s definitely raised his profile. If Scotland had qualified it would have raised his profile even further. The England game definitely would have done him no harm with scouts watching him.

I will be still surprised if he moves this summer. Seems a pretty loyal guy and another good season he could easily become the most expensive Scottish player ever sold.

He’s also now played more games for Villa than he did for Hibs !

[04Sauzee]

Gilmour to Norwich on loan looking likely.

[CockneyRebel]

You don’t always get what you want.


But if you try sometime...you just might find...you get what you need :greengrin

[MWHIBBIES]

When you look at how much Fred cost Man Utd. I'd say SJM is easily in the £50 million bracket.

Does it work like that? K/ante cost Chelsea 30 million, so Mcginn is worth 10m. It goes both ways.

I don't think villa will get 50 million for Mcginn. There are just better players out there for that price.

[Hibby70]

I think McGinns lack of pace may turn some off. But there's no doubt he's as good as most midfielders currently in the EPL.

£50m wouldn't be a surprise given some of the ridiculous prices that teams have paid for relatively unknown qualities at that level.

He'd guarantee you 100% effort as well, unlike someone like Pogba

[DetroitHibs]

Does it work like that? K/ante cost Chelsea 30 million, so Mcginn is worth 10m. It goes both ways.

I don't think villa will get 50 million for Mcginn. There are just better players out there for that price.

EPL player prices are way over inflated. I don’t think SJM being valued at £50 million is outrageous at all. Talk of £100 million for Declan Rice puts John around that price tag. We can give all kinds of comparisons. Villa just dropped £30 plus million for a player just promoted to the championship. Honestly had never heard of him.

[WhileTheChief..]

If Man Utd or Chelsea were selling McGinn they could ask for £50m and get it. I doubt Villa could.

It's not just about the player but also the selling club, hence why Villa got him for peanuts.

They should bloody well do the right thing and sell him :greengrin

[Stanton Spence]

EPL player prices are way over inflated. I don’t think SJM being valued at £50 million is outrageous at all. Talk of £100 million for Declan Rice puts John around that price tag. We can give all kinds of comparisons. Villa just dropped £30 plus million for a player just promoted to the championship. Honestly had never heard of him.I was the same with the guy Villa just signed from Norwich for the £30 million and I still can't remember his name [emoji848]

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[BegbieHSC]

If Griffiths doesn’t want to sign for us, we move on. No player/ex-player is bigger than the club.

[MWHIBBIES]

I was the same with the guy Villa just signed from Norwich for the £30 million and I still can't remember his name [emoji848]

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EPL player prices are way over inflated. I don’t think SJM being valued at £50 million is outrageous at all. Talk of £100 million for Declan Rice puts John around that price tag. We can give all kinds of comparisons. Villa just dropped £30 plus million for a player just promoted to the championship. Honestly had never heard of him.

Best player in the championship, and been called up to Argentina squad. 30 million was a very good price for him. He had previous played in both La Liga and the premier league. He wasn't some championship player.

Rice is highly valued because of age, home grown, great potential, versatile player. He has a higher ceiling than McGinn IMO.

I think 50 million is a price Villa have put on him to put Liverpool and others off. He is worth that to them, but for 50 million you simply could get better players. Yves Bissouma, Marcel Sabitzer or Houssem Aouar for example. Some of the worlds best midfield players have moved for less than 50 million in the last 3/4 years.

McGinn is a great player. I absolutely love the guy. I just don't think he is quite at the level of a title challenging side in England.

[Billy Whizz]

We have Gullan bacķ

Not sure if he’ll be at Hibs next season

[Key West]

At the time of this post there was nearly 2,850 posts on this thread.

Probably the majority of them pleading for Griffiths to come home.

Well he’s not coming now because he’d rather play with the bigger boys.

It will take more than Griffiths if we are to improve on last season.

[Stanton Spence]

Best player in the championship, and been called up to Argentina squad. 30 million was a very good price for him. He had previous played in both La Liga and the premier league. He wasn't some championship player.

Rice is highly valued because of age, home grown, great potential, versatile player. He has a higher ceiling than McGinn IMO.

I think 50 million is a price Villa have put on him to put Liverpool and others off. He is worth that to them, but for 50 million you simply could get better players. Yves Bissouma, Marcel Sabitzer or Houssem Aouar for example. Some of the worlds best midfield players have moved for less than 50 million in the last 3/4 years.

McGinn is a great player. I absolutely love the guy. I just don't think he is quite at the level of a title challenging side in England.I agree with you, I wasn't saying the boy from Norwich was good or bad value for the £30m but I was just surprised that I genuinely hadn't heard of him. It's been a weird season for obvious reasons and I don't pay much attention to the English championship obviously lol but I do watch English football mostly due to having a bet and hadn't heard of the guy.
I would love to see SJM at a champions league side and don't think he would let him or the team down but like yourself I just think he's just short at that elite club level

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[Mr. Wonderful]

Not sure if he’ll be at Hibs next season

Another that's just not quite good enough.

[neil7908]

Villa get 85%, we get 10.5% and St.Mirren get 4.5%

We need to have this saved somewhere on the main page of the site as it comes up all the time!

[J-C]

Not sure if he’ll be at Hibs next season


You reckon he'll be offski Billy? I take it will be a permanent move as he only has a year left I think, can't see it being another loan.

[JohnMcM]

We need to have this saved somewhere on the main page of the site as it comes up all the time!

I agree. At long last it puts to bed the silly rumour that 15% of any sell on is shared between us and the Buddies. :greengrin

[04Sauzee]

Dunfermline stat their game against Spartans with 2 trialists in their starting 11 and 3 more trialists on the bench. One of the 2 starting trialists has just been sent off.

[SteveHFC]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/d707224c083e80c2c0b37bdc17315238/tumblr_ojqq2i2xxc1vbcnq8o1_500.gifv

Every Hibs fan in their households this evening after seeing Leigh won't be coming back. :duck:

[Haymaker]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/d707224c083e80c2c0b37bdc17315238/tumblr_ojqq2i2xxc1vbcnq8o1_500.gifv

Every Hibs fan in their households this evening after seeing Leigh won't be coming back. :duck:

Not in MY house. :hyper forever

[.Sean.]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/d707224c083e80c2c0b37bdc17315238/tumblr_ojqq2i2xxc1vbcnq8o1_500.gifv

Every Hibs fan in their households this evening after seeing Leigh won't be coming back. :duck:
I personally couldn’t care less as he’s clearly not interested in Hibs. He might deem us worthy when he’s 37 or something.

[BlackSheep]

Any update on Jackson Irvine?

A mate of mine messaged to say he heard he had signed a 2 year deal and will be announced on Friday in the new away kit…..

Can’t find any other rumours of this so not sure the info is accurate?

[Hibernian Verse]

I personally couldn’t care less as he’s clearly not interested in Hibs. He might deem us worthy when he’s 37 or something.

It's nothing to do with deeming us worthy. It's to do with playing at a higher level, a larger wage and maintaining his current standard of living.

These are all things I would consider if I was offered two jobs in the same industry too.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Any update on Jackson Irvine?

A mate of mine messaged to say he heard he had signed a 2 year deal and will be announced on Friday in the new away kit…..

Can’t find any other rumours of this so not sure the info is accurate?

I seen that on Twitter last night. Boy said he’d bought a house next door and like you say 2 year deal announced Friday with purple and green away strip.

[calumhibee1]

It's nothing to do with deeming us worthy. It's to do with playing at a higher level, a larger wage and maintaining his current standard of living.

These are all things I would consider if I was offered two jobs in the same industry too.

:agree:

I have absolutely no issue with us being any players second choice to Celtic.

Infact I doubt there’s any players out there to whom we wouldn’t be second choice to Celtic.

[Jim44]

Any update on Jackson Irvine?

A mate of mine messaged to say he heard he had signed a 2 year deal and will be announced on Friday in the new away kit…..

Can’t find any other rumours of this so not sure the info is accurate?


I seen that on Twitter last night. Boy said he’d bought a house next door and like you say 2 year deal announced Friday with purple and green away strip.

Probably rumours but the only thing to suggest it might yet happen is the lack of any other news or rumours about Irvine in the media.

[Andy74]

Any update on Jackson Irvine?

A mate of mine messaged to say he heard he had signed a 2 year deal and will be announced on Friday in the new away kit…..

Can’t find any other rumours of this so not sure the info is accurate?

Despite it being mentioned every summer I don't think a new contract or a new player has ever been announced alongside
a new kit.

[Brightside]

Despite it being mentioned every summer I don't think a new contract or a new player has ever been announced alongside
a new kit.

and id suggest the wee laddie announcing it may be on the slash.

[HFC93]

Despite it being mentioned every summer I don't think a new contract or a new player has ever been announced alongside
a new kit.

Yep, I don't recall it ever happening and bundling two positive announcements together doesn't make such sense from a pr point of view either.

[ElginHibbie]

Despite it being mentioned every summer I don't think a new contract or a new player has ever been announced alongside
a new kit.

I have a memory of when McPake signed after his loan spell that was done with him modelling the new home kit, but could easy be misremembering

[Greenbeard]

I have a memory of when McPake signed after his loan spell that was done with him modelling the new home kit, but could easy be misremembering
Is that actually a word? It's not the same as forgetting or mistaken. If you misremember, you must have remembered something, but not the right thing. I will be using it for sure next time the missus comes home and I haven't done the expected chores. "Ah, sorry. I misremembered." :wink:

[worcesterhibby]

Is that actually a word? It's not the same as forgetting or mistaken. If you misremember, you must have remembered something, but not the right thing. I will be using it for sure next time the missus comes home and I haven't done the expected chores. "Ah, sorry. I misremembered." :wink:

An even better word is "conflated" where you mix up and combine two different peices of information. You might have seen the launch of a new kit and then a week later seen Jame McPake announced wearing the new strip. a year or two later, you remember it as one event - James McPake being announced at the same time as the new kit. You conflated the two events. I don't know how that helps you with not doing the dishes :greengrin

[bingo70]

https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1407983081399586824?s=21

Reading between the lines here it’s pretty obvious they’re using the home and away link to announce Jackson Irvine with the new away strip.

[Brightside]

https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1407983081399586824?s=21

Reading between the lines here it’s pretty obvious they’re using the home and away link to announce Jackson Irvine with the new away strip.

Is that because Irvine is pretty grey? :confused:

[flash]

https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1407983081399586824?s=21

Reading between the lines here it’s pretty obvious they’re using the home and away link to announce Jackson Irvine with the new away strip.
Next tweet should be a dig at our Neighbours.

[BlackSheep]

and id suggest the wee laddie announcing it may be on the slash.

Oft, neither me nor my mate can be considered wee laddies.... and for most its a bit early to be on the slash :)

Interesting that some form of away kit tease has been issued by hibs on the same day as i've heard this though.....

[hibee62]

Despite it being mentioned every summer I don't think a new contract or a new player has ever been announced alongside
a new kit.

McPake (permanent signing) and de Graaf were announced with new strips. Neither went that well of course….

[Brightside]

Oft, neither me nor my mate can be considered wee laddies.... and for most its a bit early to be on the slash :)

Interesting that some form of away kit tease has been issued by hibs on the same day as i've heard this though.....

I meant the tweet.....which was clearly made up.

[MikeyS]

I seen that on Twitter last night. Boy said he’d bought a house next door and like you say 2 year deal announced Friday with purple and green away strip.

Well Jackson looks lovely dressed up as Scott Allan in our ne green and white away strip 👌🏻

[ElginHibbie]

Is that actually a word? It's not the same as forgetting or mistaken. If you misremember, you must have remembered something, but not the right thing. I will be using it for sure next time the missus comes home and I haven't done the expected chores. "Ah, sorry. I misremembered." :wink:

"remember imperfectly or incorrectly" and now I have seen this definition I must misremember 99% of my life cause it's never perfect

[Oscar T Grouch]

I meant the tweet.....which was clearly made up.

It certainly looks that way now, the original tweet said a green and purple away kit, so we can deduce that the other part of the tweet was BS too.

[silverhibee]

I personally couldn’t care less as he’s clearly not interested in Hibs. He might deem us worthy when he’s 37 or something.

Lennon slating Griffiths today, didn’t turn up to training during lockdown for 3 months, came back a stone overweight and out of condition, lost his pace, etc etc.

Think might change my mind about wanting him back at Hibs.

[Jim44]

Lennon slating Griffiths today, didn’t turn up to training during lockdown for 3 months, came back a stone overweight and out of condition, lost his pace, etc etc.

Think might change my mind about wanting him back at Hibs.

The new guy will certainly be taking a bit of a gamble with Griffiths. Given the fans’ resistance to keeping Griffiths on, if he flops, the manager will lose a lot of support from the fans, which, it appears, is not particularly sky high.

[mal]

Lennon slating Griffiths today, didn’t turn up to training during lockdown for 3 months, came back a stone overweight and out of condition, lost his pace, etc etc.

Think might change my mind about wanting him back at Hibs.

Link here: Leigh Griffiths' Celtic attitude slammed as Neil Lennon reveals lockdown training no-show - Glasgow Live (https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leigh-griffiths-celtic-attitude-slammed-20890275)

The most shocking thing about that article is a "journalist" using "would of".

[Wilson]

Link here: Leigh Griffiths' Celtic attitude slammed as Neil Lennon reveals lockdown training no-show - Glasgow Live (https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leigh-griffiths-celtic-attitude-slammed-20890275)

The most shocking thing about that article is a "journalist" using "would of".

Should of known better ;-)

[Highwayman]

How we going to keep Kevin Nisbet down at ER now that he’s mixed with the loads of money rich kids from the English Premiership.

[HoboHarry]

How we going to keep Kevin Nisbet down at ER now that he’s mixed with the loads of money rich kids from the English Premiership.
We probably aren't.

[Spudster]

Lennon slating Griffiths today, didn’t turn up to training during lockdown for 3 months, came back a stone overweight and out of condition, lost his pace, etc etc.

Think might change my mind about wanting him back at Hibs.

This is the info that Aberdeen had on him hence no interest. Also heard it's worse than what's been mentioned. He's apparently walked out in the middle of sessions and his diet is so bad it gives little chance of ever getting match fit.

[bingo70]

Lennon slating Griffiths today, didn’t turn up to training during lockdown for 3 months, came back a stone overweight and out of condition, lost his pace, etc etc.

Think might change my mind about wanting him back at Hibs.

That was nice of Lennon sharing that.

Did he say anything about why he couldn’t motivate their best striker to come in and perform to the best of his abilities or why Griffiths felt it easier to stay away?

Anything about his mental state that lead to him being so out of condition and apparently uninterested?

Always 3 sides to every story, poor of Lennon to come out in public with that kind of thing IMO.

[Peevemor]

That was nice of Lennon sharing that.

Did he say anything about why he couldn’t motivate their best striker to come in and perform to the best of his abilities or why Griffiths felt it easier to stay away?

Anything about his mental state that lead to him being so out of condition and apparently uninterested?

Always 3 sides to every story, poor of Lennon to come out in public with that kind of thing IMO.

I agree. Even though he may be telling the truth he shouldn't be "talking out of school" - I'm sure plenty people could dish the dirt on NL.

I also wondered why Lennon didn't manage it better. Did he call or go to see Griffiths.

The Hibs players all say that Jack Ross talks to them individually all the time - doesn't look like Lennon does the same.

[ian cruise]

Link here: Leigh Griffiths' Celtic attitude slammed as Neil Lennon reveals lockdown training no-show - Glasgow Live (https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leigh-griffiths-celtic-attitude-slammed-20890275)

The most shocking thing about that article is a "journalist" using "would of".

Lennon comes across as a bitter man, trying to scupper the possibility of a new contract for Leigh at a time when he's discussing his future with a new manager. Even if the new boss decides to give Leigh a go plenty of the support will have decided on the back of Lennon's comments that he's this season's boo boy.

[Since452]

Lennon slating Griffiths today, didn’t turn up to training during lockdown for 3 months, came back a stone overweight and out of condition, lost his pace, etc etc.

Think might change my mind about wanting him back at Hibs.

That might be true but very poor from Lennon to slate the guy publicly like that. What does he gain from saying it? Make himself feel better for the honking job he did at Celtic? Stay classy Neil.

[MWHIBBIES]

That was nice of Lennon sharing that.

Did he say anything about why he couldn’t motivate their best striker to come in and perform to the best of his abilities or why Griffiths felt it easier to stay away?

Anything about his mental state that lead to him being so out of condition and apparently uninterested?

Always 3 sides to every story, poor of Lennon to come out in public with that kind of thing IMO.

Behave with this. Edouard is their best striker by a long way. There is a reason Leicester and Arsenal want him, while Leigh is desperately trying to get a new deal with Celtic.

[bingo70]

Behave with this. Edouard is their best striker by a long way. There is a reason Leicester and Arsenal want him, while Leigh is desperately trying to get a new deal with Celtic.

Tbh I forgot about Edouard 😂

I was thinking about the boy Ajeti and couldn’t think of anybody better (forgetting about Edouard)

General point still stands though.

[Stuart93]

Lennon comes across as a bitter man, trying to scupper the possibility of a new contract for Leigh at a time when he's discussing his future with a new manager. Even if the new boss decides to give Leigh a go plenty of the support will have decided on the back of Lennon's comments that he's this season's boo boy.

Definitely. The man tries his best to deflect criticism from himself every time. Celtic still had the squad with or without Leigh that was capable of winning the league.

[Lago]

So to round up, there is no Hibs transfer news.

[bingo70]

So to round up, there is no Hibs transfer news.

Yes, otherwise people would be discussing it.

Until there is, people will talk about other things, usually ***** 😂

[Oscar T Grouch]

I'd like to think we have no news because all our targets are currently playing at the Euros :wink: Quality over quantity folks :greengrin

[GreenCastle]

Link here: Leigh Griffiths' Celtic attitude slammed as Neil Lennon reveals lockdown training no-show - Glasgow Live (https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leigh-griffiths-celtic-attitude-slammed-20890275)

The most shocking thing about that article is a "journalist" using "would of".

You would think after a few days Lennon would be speaking to LG if he wasn’t showing up for training asking him if he’s ok?

The whole thing is odd and would it be great if Celtic let him go and he came back to Hibs and showed everyone what a talent he is.

I’m not hopeful he will return - guess it depends who Celtic sign and sell.

[RIP Bestie]

That might be true but very poor from Lennon to slate the guy publicly like that. What does he gain from saying it? Make himself feel better for the honking job he did at Celtic? Stay classy Neil.

Neil Lennon and classy aren't generally two things I would put together.
Certainly not something he has shown much of over the years.

[J-C]

This is old news regarding Leigh and his fitness, it was well documented in the media when the teams came back from lockdown, Lennon was non too happy and slated him then. He's probably never got back to being 100%.

Lennon has a right to reply here as Leigh is having a right go at him, when in fact it was all Leigh's doing.

[silverhibee]

That was nice of Lennon sharing that.

Did he say anything about why he couldn’t motivate their best striker to come in and perform to the best of his abilities or why Griffiths felt it easier to stay away?

Anything about his mental state that lead to him being so out of condition and apparently uninterested?

Always 3 sides to every story, poor of Lennon to come out in public with that kind of thing IMO.

He did mention that the other players from Scotland were coming in to work with the fitness coach for a hour two players at a time and LG was a no show, Lennon also said Leigh shouldn’t be having a go at other players when hasn’t been working hard enough himself.

And he also mentioned how much him and the club had helped him through his problems and he never returned the favour.

This is Lennon replying to what Griffiths had to say about Lennon and celtc from a interview the other day.

Should Griffiths be sharing texts he has had with Lennon with the press.

[Hibs90]

Lennon just trying to salvage his own reputation.


Griffiths was physically fit, rolled his ankle first day in pre-season and was thrown under the bus by Lennon after that and with the TikTok garbage.

[Bostonhibby]

So to round up, there is no Hibs transfer news.Doesn't sound like Lennon's coming back[emoji6]

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[ancient hibee]

Lennon just trying to salvage his own reputation.


Griffiths was physically fit, rolled his ankle first day in pre-season and was thrown under the bus by Lennon after that and with the TikTok garbage.

Griffiths says he was fit. Strangely enough nobody else seems to go along with that.

[JohnM1875]

Really hoping for some sort of player rumour or announcement soon!

Wasn't too bothered about Irvine resigning earlier on, but even the chat about him potentially being announced with the new away strip got me excited.

Griffiths however, is done. Seems desperate to stay at Celtic, even after all the abuse he's taken form their own fans recently.

[Hibs90]

Griffiths says he was fit. Strangely enough nobody else seems to go along with that.

By nobody else you mean Neil Lennon.

[Lago]

Yes, otherwise people would be discussing it.

Until there is, people will talk about other things, usually ***** 😂
Yeah that's the problem, you have to wade through pages of crap to find out...... Well nothing really. 😩

[loanheadhibby]

By nobody else you mean Neil Lennon.

John Kennedy and Steve Clarke also?

[ancient hibee]

I
John Kennedy and Steve Clarke also?

And both desperate for a decent striker.

[loanheadhibby]

I

And both desperate for a decent striker.

it makes you wonder, all 3 cannot be wrong? Lennon was pretty damning of Leigh Griffiths today.

[04Sauzee]

Ex Hibs player signs for QOTS for undisclosed fee , obviously minimal.

Two is the number. Second signing of the day on a TWO year deal is Ruari Paton. Welcome to Palmerston. > https://t.co/Z88LJfCrI2 https://t.co/1JSRFfs7Mg

[bingo70]

John Guthrie signs for Northampton from Livingston.

Always thought he was quite good against us.

[Northernhibee]

it makes you wonder, all 3 cannot be wrong? Lennon was pretty damning of Leigh Griffiths today.

Then again, Neil Lennon took over one of the most dominant teams in Scottish football history and left them in an absolute state. He also took over Hibs with one of the best midfields that we've had and left us an unbalanced mess in relegation form.

[loanheadhibby]

Then again, Neil Lennon took over one of the most dominant teams in Scottish football history and left them in an absolute state. He also took over Hibs with one of the best midfields that we've had and left us an unbalanced mess in relegation form.

Can’t disagree but what about Kennedy & Clarke not picking him? Can’t all be Lennon

[CMurdoch]

This is old news regarding Leigh and his fitness, it was well documented in the media when the teams came back from lockdown, Lennon was non too happy and slated him then. He's probably never got back to being 100%.

Lennon has a right to reply here as Leigh is having a right go at him, when in fact it was all Leigh's doing.

Lennon gave Griffiths maximum backing and support. Griffiths responded by letting him down when he needed him.
All talk and no action for 3 years now and has been having a go recently at folk hence Lennon telling a few home truths.
Lennon, Kennedy and Clarke can't all be wrong.
I reckon Scott Brown will have marked Aberdeens card with regard to Leigh as well.
If he gets a contract with Celtic I could see there being lots of conditions to ensure his compliance and an exit clause if he doesn't meet them.

[easty]

Can’t disagree but what about Kennedy & Clarke not picking him? Can’t all be Lennon

Kennedy played with one striker. Griffiths was his second choice behind Edouard. He was picked ahead of Ateji and Klimala.

Griffiths played in 8 of Kennedy’s 10 games in charge.

[easty]

I reckon Scott Brown will have marked Aberdeens card with regard to Leigh as well.


I dunno why this keeps being repeated on here. There’s nae fact behind it at all.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Can’t disagree but what about Kennedy & Clarke not picking him? Can’t all be Lennon

Kennedy was a part of the team that didn't pick him when l
Lennon was in charge?

[easty]

Kennedy was a part of the team that didn't pick him when l
Lennon was in charge?

Kennedy did pick him.

[Magpie]

Leigh came on and scored in the Scottish Cup final, saving Lenny from the sack a lot earlier.

[Unseen work]

Barrie McKay is a free agent.

Always thought he was a very good player, would be a brilliant addition Imo.

[loanheadhibby]

Kennedy played with one striker. Griffiths was his second choice behind Edouard. He was picked ahead of Ateji and Klimala.

Griffiths played in 8 of Kennedy’s 10 games in charge.

How many starts and how many goals did he score? Is Leigh Griffiths going to take Celtic to Champions League or Scotland to World Cup?

I’m sure I read a stat (could be wrong) that he’d not scored more than 10 league goals in a season since 2017/17?

[loanheadhibby]

Leigh came on and scored in the Scottish Cup final, saving Lenny from the sack a lot earlier.

I remember it but let’s not forget, that was desperation stuff. An on form, fully fit Leigh Griffiths would have started that game.

[easty]

How many starts and how many goals did he score? Is Leigh Griffiths going to take Celtic to Champions League or Scotland to World Cup?

I’m sure I read a stat (could be wrong) that he’d not scored more than 10 league goals in a season since 2017/17?

That’s moving the goalposts though. Folk have been saying that Kennedy wasn’t picking him, I’m just pointing out that’s not true.

[CMurdoch]

I dunno why this keeps being repeated on here. There’s nae fact behind it at all.

That's why I said "I reckon"
Glass is bound to have asked Brown about Griffiths and he will have a valid opinion about what Leigh does or doesn't offer, the risks involved and whether they are worth taking.
I still reckon he will be at Hibs this season if Celtic decide not to give him a contract.

[Tambo]

Celtic would probably offer Leigh a deal then offer him for Nisbet thinking we would swap.

In all seriousness if we are looking at selling players let’s do it early and the club looks to be doing this.

[Billy Whizz]

Ex Hibs player signs for QOTS for undisclosed fee , obviously minimal.

Two is the number. Second signing of the day on a TWO year deal is Ruari Paton. Welcome to Palmerston. > https://t.co/Z88LJfCrI2 https://t.co/1JSRFfs7Mg

That’s a great move for Ruari

[Brightside]

I hope we sign someone soon - anything to stop us going on and on about Leigh Griffiths. Personally i think we will see 2 out and 2 in next week.

[scoopyboy]

I hope we sign someone soon - anything to stop us going on and on about Leigh Griffiths. Personally i think we will see 2 out and 2 in next week.

I hope so too.

We moved sharply to get Daniel MacKay in but I get greedy and want more in.

Players back on Monday so hopefully arrivals are imminent, one of my pet hates is players not getting a full pre season. It has cost us quite a lot in recent seasons and hopefully when we do make signings they will have started pre season with their current clubs.

I hope you're right with your prediction / info.

[Andy74]

Ryan Gauld is getting offered £43k per week at Vancouver!!

[scoopyboy]

Ryan Gauld is getting offered £43k per week at Vancouver!!

I find that incredible, no way is he returning to Scottish football with an offer like that on the table.

Can't help thinking they could get better value than that with plenty of players.

[badabing67]

Ryan Gauld is getting offered £43k per week at Vancouver!!

Presumably that will be getting paid in Canadian dollars so 43 K = 43,000 Canadian Dollar = £25,128

[Andy74]

Presumably that will be getting paid in Canadian dollars so 43 K = 43,000 Canadian Dollar = £25,128

I’m assuming that whoever wrote the article has done that already. It was quoted in £s.

[badabing67]

Nice away kit btw https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/hibernian-2021-22-away-kit-unveiled

I like it :aok:

[JohnM1875]

Man City close to signing Grealish for close to £100 million.

Can't see them letting Grealish and McGinn go in the same window.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Man City close to signing Grealish for close to £100 million.

Can't see them letting Grealish and McGinn go in the same window.

Was in BBC Gossip this morning that they won't consider offers for McGinn this summer. They also touted the Liverpool interest again in the article.

[HendoDelivered]

Man City close to signing Grealish for close to £100 million.

Can't see them letting Grealish and McGinn go in the same window.

If they get him and Kane, may as well just hand the league to City before a ball is kicked. Financial fair play my arse.

[Stuart93]

If people think Villa couldn’t get £50m for Mcginn when they’re getting £100m for Grealish they’re away wi it.

[The Modfather]

Man City close to signing Grealish for close to £100 million.

Can't see them letting Grealish and McGinn go in the same window.

I must be unlucky as lots of people rate him but whenever I’ve seen him, admittedly not very often, he’s either been anonymous or not stood out. I can’t help but file him alongside Declan Rice, good but not as good as the hype or values talked about for both.

Saying that, it is genuinely possible he’s had off days whenever I’ve seen him and Pep will take him up another lever or two like he does with most players.

[MWHIBBIES]

If people think Villa couldn’t get £50m for Mcginn when they’re getting £100m for Grealish they’re away wi it.

Younger, English, better player, long contract, highly sought after. No one is away with anything. Grealish is the subject of serious interest at 100m. The one rumour about Mcginn says Liverpool will not pay 50 million.

There are not many better players than grealish about for 100m. There are better players than Mcginn for 50

[hibbysam]

Younger, English, better player, long contract, highly sought after. No one is away with anything. Grealish is the subject of serious interest at 100m. The one rumour about Mcginn says Liverpool will not pay 50 million.

There are not many better players than grealish about for 100m. There are better players than Mcginn for 50

Might be better players technically but will they give you what McGinn gives you? I’d be surprised.

[jacomo]

Younger, English, better player, long contract, highly sought after. No one is away with anything. Grealish is the subject of serious interest at 100m. The one rumour about Mcginn says Liverpool will not pay 50 million.

There are not many better players than grealish about for 100m. There are better players than Mcginn for 50


Not to mention marketability, which is a key driver of valuations at the top level.

Hair products companies will be more interested in Grealish than Meatball, for one thing.

[jacomo]

I must be unlucky as lots of people rate him but whenever I’ve seen him, admittedly not very often, he’s either been anonymous or not stood out. I can’t help but file him alongside Declan Rice, good but not as good as the hype or values talked about for both.

Saying that, it is genuinely possible he’s had off days whenever I’ve seen him and Pep will take him up another lever or two like he does with most players.


Obviously they are very different players.

Grealish is a proper baller. In fact him and Foden are both the kind of instinctive, creative players that many folk thought had become pretty much extinct in Britain.

England would be lucky to have one of them - having both is an embarrassment of riches in many ways, and may actually prevent them from building a team around one or the other.

[MWHIBBIES]

Might be better players technically but will they give you what McGinn gives you? I’d be surprised.

John McGinn isn't one of a kind. We've had the priviledge of seeing him up close for 3 brilliant years and I think it has blinded some to his shortcomings, or seen him a bit overrated by others.

He is a very good player. He isn't a world class central midfielder, though. There are better players than him out there for less money yes. All different types as well. More defensive players like Yves Bissouma, more attacking ones like Houssem Aouar who are both likely to move to a big club this summer for less than 30 million. Both are younger with a higher ceiling than McGinn IMO.

I love McGinn, but I cant see him moving for 50 million quid.

[Rumble de Thump]

As it stands, Man City have apparently offered Villa the same amount of money for Grealish as they have offered for McGinn, which appears to be £0.

[Lancs Harp]

Think City's main target this summer is for a center forward with Kane or Haaland top of the shopping list, which wont be cheap. Cant see them forking out what will be, what? £250 Million? for a striker and Grealish. Bl00dy crazy money, it only seems like two minutes ago the media melee over Trevor Francis moving for a million.:greengrin

[nonshinyfinish]

Not to mention marketability, which is a key driver of valuations at the top level.

Hair products companies will be more interested in Grealish than Meatball, for one thing.

Surely the ability to make McGinn look like a matinee idol would be the ultimate selling point for a hair product?

[Highwayman]

No doubt that Jack Grealish has more natural football ability than John McGinn.But we are not comparing like with like.
When they were both at Hibs thought Liam Henderson had more natural football ability than McGinn,but he didn’t have McGinns assertiveness,determination and will to win.Just look at where the level of both their careers are at the moment.
If I was a football manager and my board said we will fund you for any player at Aston Villa you want,I would take McGinn before Grealish.
Think with Grealish he has now reached his peak but in the longer term there is a lot more to come from McGinn and would consider him more dependable and a better asset going forward.

[MWHIBBIES]

Think City's main target this summer is for a center forward with Kane or Haaland top of the shopping list, which wont be cheap. Cant see them forking out what will be, what? £250 Million? for a striker and Grealish. Bl00dy crazy money, it only seems like two minutes ago the media melee over Trevor Francis moving for a million.:greengrin

They'll be moving guys on as well. Aguero, Fernandinho and Eric Garcia already away and Laporte rumoured to want to leave. I think Gabriel Jesus may want away as well. Thats a huge chunk of wages off the bill.

[Key West]

No doubt that Jack Grealish has more natural football ability than John McGinn.But we are not comparing like with like.
When they were both at Hibs thought Liam Henderson had more natural football ability than McGinn,but he didn’t have McGinns assertiveness,determination and will to win.Just look at where the level of both their careers are at the moment.
If I was a football manager and my board said we will fund you for any player at Aston Villa you want,I would take McGinn before Grealish.
Think with Grealish he has now reached his peak but in the longer term there is a lot more to come from McGinn and would consider him more dependable and a better asset going forward.

Agree entirely with this Grealish is an exciting player to watch but McGinn is a better all round player, not much in it though.

[MWHIBBIES]

No doubt that Jack Grealish has more natural football ability than John McGinn.But we are not comparing like with like.
When they were both at Hibs thought Liam Henderson had more natural football ability than McGinn,but he didn’t have McGinns assertiveness,determination and will to win.Just look at where the level of both their careers are at the moment.
If I was a football manager and my board said we will fund you for any player at Aston Villa you want,I would take McGinn before Grealish.
Think with Grealish he has now reached his peak but in the longer term there is a lot more to come from McGinn and would consider him more dependable and a better asset going forward.

Grealish is younger than Mcginn, how did you work out he is at his peak and McGinn isn't?

Sorry but you need to take the Hibs specs off. Pep is a football manager, one of the best, and he isn't after McGinn for 100 million.

[AugustaHibs]

Mcginn is a better all round player than Grealish? I’ve seen it all now.

[HoboHarry]

Agree entirely with this Grealish is an exciting player to watch but McGinn is a better all round player, not much in it though.
That must be some pretty strong stuff you're on there mate.

[Since452]

I'd put Grealish in the vastly over rated English player category and not seen anything to suggest he's better than McGinn but I'm not a professional football manager so my opinion doesn't count for much.

[SMAXXA]

Not to mention marketability, which is a key driver of valuations at the top level.

Hair products companies will be more interested in Grealish than Meatball, for one thing.

Aye but what about all the house haunting companies who could market meatball?

[calumhibee1]

Grealish is younger than Mcginn, how did you work out he is at his peak and McGinn isn't?

Sorry but you need to take the Hibs specs off. Pep is a football manager, one of the best, and he isn't after McGinn for 100 million.

I wouldn’t necessarily agree with the post but players do peak at different points.

Rooney peaked in his late teens early twenties. He was past his best by the time other guys his age peaked.

I’m not sure Grealish would improve that much at Man City but I do think he’s slightly better than McGinn right now. I think McGinn could go up a level at Liverpool though.

[Lancs Harp]

I'd put Grealish in the vastly over rated English player category and not seen anything to suggest he's better than McGinn but I'm not a professional football manager so my opinion doesn't count for much.

All our opinions count mate its what message boads are all about but on the McGinn Grealish debate I think if you asked Aston Villa fans who have obviously seen them both tgether for a few seasons now who was the better player it would be a Grealish landslide.

[Potty78]

McGinn over Grealish🤦*♂️ I loved him when he was at Hibs and he's obviously improved since moving tae Villa but really? Opinions eh

[Greenbeard]

All our opinions count mate its what message boads are all about but on the McGinn Grealish debate I think if you asked Aston Villa fans who have obviously seen them both tgether for a few seasons now who was the better player it would be a Grealish landslide.
Which is better? A prancing Olympic dressage horse or a Cheltenham Gold Cup steeplechaser?

[brog]

All our opinions count mate its what message boads are all about but on the McGinn Grealish debate I think if you asked Aston Villa fans who have obviously seen them both tgether for a few seasons now who was the better player it would be a Grealish landslide.

Probably true but it doesn't have to be either/or. Is Grealish 2 or 3 times the player SJM is? If rumours of £100m for Grealish are true then £40m is a minimum for SJM. That's nothing to do with green tinted glasses, just my assessment of the EPL market.

[jacomo]

Probably true but it doesn't have to be either/or. Is Grealish 2 or 3 times the player SJM is? If rumours of £100m for Grealish are true then £40m is a minimum for SJM. That's nothing to do with green tinted glasses, just my assessment of the EPL market.


Indeed. The market will pay whatever it thinks is right.

Brexit does make a difference by putting an even bigger premium on homegrown players too.

[Lancs Harp]

Which is better? A prancing Olympic dressage horse or a Cheltenham Gold Cup steeplechaser?

It doesnt alter the fact that the vast majority of Villa fans would rate Grealish higher then SJM, which is all I stated.

[Lancs Harp]

Keiran Tierney has signed a new long term contract at Arsenal

[JohnMcM]

Keiran Tierney has signed a new long term contract at Arsenal

I guess that could be a very tasty contract to keep him there after his performances in the Euro’s which won’t have gone unnoticed.

[HoboHarry]

Keiran Tierney has signed a new long term contract at Arsenal
Wonder if there is a buy out clause?

[Lancs Harp]

Wonder if there is a buy out clause?

Sky Sports not elaborated on any detail. He deserves it IMO with Saka, Arsenals best players last season.

[JohnMcM]

Wonder if there is a buy out clause?

I don’t fully understand buy out clauses. Does it set a minimum or maximum transfer fee in the future or something?

[JimBHibees]

I don’t fully understand buy out clauses. Does it set a minimum or maximum transfer fee in the future or something?

Minimum transfer fee and any team meeting it can then sign the player if agree terms.

[JohnMcM]

Minimum transfer fee and any team meeting it can then sign the player if agree terms.

Thank you. Another school day attended.:greengrin

[MWHIBBIES]

Wonder if there is a buy out clause?

There isn't.

[jacomo]

I don’t fully understand buy out clauses. Does it set a minimum or maximum transfer fee in the future or something?


They are a legal requirement for contracts in Spain. So clubs will try and set some ludicrous fee. A bit like a builder quoting a massively overinflated price for a job because he doesn’t really want the work.

[PatHead]

John McGinn isn't one of a kind. We've had the priviledge of seeing him up close for 3 brilliant years and I think it has blinded some to his shortcomings, or seen him a bit overrated by others.

He is a very good player. He isn't a world class central midfielder, though. There are better players than him out there for less money yes. All different types as well. More defensive players like Yves Bissouma, more attacking ones like Houssem Aouar who are both likely to move to a big club this summer for less than 30 million. Both are younger with a higher ceiling than McGinn IMO.

I love McGinn, but I cant see him moving for 50 million quid.

The thing about McGinn is that he is British and has played in the Premiership. If they were to sign a player from abroad they might not settle in England or be up to the pace of the premiership. In short they know what they are getting. Surely that is worth a premium?

Don't know the players you are referring to as I don't pay attention to players for teams outside Hibs.

[jacomo]

I guess that could be a very tasty contract to keep him there after his performances in the Euro’s which won’t have gone unnoticed.


I think he’d already attracted interest. If he hadn’t been injured so much this season Arsenal might not have been able to hold onto him.

[Callum_62]

Minimum transfer fee and any team meeting it can then sign the player if agree terms.Maximum transfer fee really as why would anyone offer more?

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[MWHIBBIES]

I think he’d already attracted interest. If he hadn’t been injured so much this season Arsenal might not have been able to hold onto him.

Was never any suggestion he was leaving. Played nearly 40 games. Very little to do with any injury. Arsenal see him as a future captain and he had years on his contract anyway. New deal was sorted with zero fuss.

[JimBHibees]

Maximum transfer fee really as why would anyone offer more?

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If more than one team meets the figure

[Andy74]

If more than one team meets the figure

Then they both get accepted and they negotiate with the player.

There’s no need for anyone to pay any more than a minimum release fee.

[JimBHibees]

Then they both get accepted and they negotiate with the player.

There’s no need for anyone to pay any more than a minimum release fee.

Fair enough

[04Sauzee]

Regan Hendry says Hibs were one of the clubs interested in signing him without doing anything about it. Not really sure what that means?

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/scottish-championship/2334904/exclusive-regan-hendry-aberdeen-hearts-hibs-transfer-news-forest-green-rovers-raith-rovers/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&amp&__twitter_impression=true

[Henderson2Del]

It means we never made any offer to Regam hendry.

[Jones28]

Regan Hendry says Hibs were one of the clubs interested in signing him without doing anything about it. Not really sure what that means?

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/scottish-championship/2334904/exclusive-regan-hendry-aberdeen-hearts-hibs-transfer-news-forest-green-rovers-raith-rovers/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&amp&__twitter_impression=true

I’m not losing masses of sleep over that one, if he comes good we can buy him off FGR.

[bingo70]

Regan Hendry says Hibs were one of the clubs interested in signing him without doing anything about it. Not really sure what that means?

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/scottish-championship/2334904/exclusive-regan-hendry-aberdeen-hearts-hibs-transfer-news-forest-green-rovers-raith-rovers/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&amp&__twitter_impression=true

I’m sure that’s the case with dozens of players.

[Mr. Wonderful]

What's Johnny Russell up to these days? Is he a free agent?

[04Sauzee]

What's Johnny Russell up to these days? Is he a free agent?

Played yesterday for Kansas City Wizards

[bingo70]

https://twitter.com/ortacizgicom/status/1408362916806602755?s=21

Seen a few Turkish sites on Twitter stating Besiktas are in talks to sign Porteous, most of them have very few followers however it seems to stem from the tweet above from an account that has over 84,000 followers which would give the page a degree of credibility.

I’m sure there’s plenty ***** Twitter accounts with loads of followers however I normally dismiss any pages that only have a few followers. Maybe one to keep an eye on.