Summer 2021-22 transfer thread

[Col2]

So Aberdeen sign Bates (perm) and Longstaff (loan), Hearts sign a CD with decent amount of 1st team games on loan and we are brining in a 19 year old who has played 5 times for middlesburgh.

The transfer activity in recent weeks has not quite match the ambition Ron and new CEO have been talking to the media about.....

Makes me think Doig deal was the catalyst for better players. But fallen through now. So we are on Plan D or E

[Brightside]

He’s in the England youth squad and he’s a panic signing. Ffs.

[Heisenberg]

I'll wait to pass judgement but yeah on paper doesn't quite fit what I felt we needed. Presuming this means deal for McCart is dead?

If it’s as well as McCart/another then fair enough but if this is our backup option I’ll be baffled. Him and a Clyde goalie to end the window. Lovely.

[Silky]

Well this isn’t going to go down well.

Why? Just cos he's 19?

[Hibs90]

What's the difference between a second option and a panic signing?

Well, we made cash offers for a player that obviously JR wanted and waited for that St J didn't accept, they or us either messed around and it doesn't appear to be happening based on reports and we have moved on..to a 19 year old loan signing. Says to me that it's a bit of a panic signing with a few days left in the window.

Maybe 'panic' is the wrong word. :confused:

[madhatter]

He’s in the England youth squad and he’s a panic signing. Ffs.

Yes. We are getting a player on loan that has played very little first team football. And towards the end of the window. Plus in a position we've needed for literally years.

Certainly panic signing territory.

[Brightside]

If it’s as well as McCart/another then fair enough but if this is our backup option I’ll be baffled. Him and a Clyde goalie to end the window. Lovely.

What if this boy is better than McCart? The reactions as usual are stupid. He’s in the England u20 squad. So he’s already at a higher level than McCart. Get this boy on loan then sign McCart on a free later.

[Brightside]

Yes. We are getting a player on loan that has played very little first team football. And towards the end of the window. Plus in a position we've needed for literally years.

Certainly panic signing territory.

England u20 squad. You don’t think that shows his level?

[BlackSheep]

So we don’t sign Ronaldo and then only bring in a 19 year old loan signing from Middlesbrough… end of the world stuff!!

But seriously is there no end to the negativity on here…? This lad could be fantastic. Most had doubts about Magennis, JDH, and a few other of Ross’s signings that have proved their worth… let’s see how this one turns out before condemning the owner and CEO!

[Hibs90]

England u20 squad. You don’t think that shows his level?

It shows he is very inexperienced and has played very little first team football, 12 appearances for Crewe last season.

[madhatter]

England u20 squad. You don’t think that shows his level?

No. It means nothing. He's got very little first team experience.

[The Count]

We needed more than one defender in anycase so McCart could still happen.

[bigwheel]

Yes. We are getting a player on loan that has played very little first team football. And towards the end of the window. Plus in a position we've needed for literally years.

Certainly panic signing territory.

Come on….he looks like a talent …already played for their first team, England international..there is nothing about that that suggests a panic signing

[MWHIBBIES]

Yes. We are getting a player on loan that has played very little first team football. And towards the end of the window. Plus in a position we've needed for literally years.

Certainly panic signing territory.

1 year. Jackson left last summer. So LITERALLY 1 YEAR

And we're clearly working to fix it.

[Brightside]

No. It means nothing. He's got very little first team experience.

It means nothing. Ffs. You don’t get in that England squad by entering a comp on the back of a Frosties box!! Yet again just maybe coaches and the recruitment team know a bit more about these players than anyone on this board.

[Brightside]

And maybe just maybe we’ve been working on this loan deal for weeks too?

[madhatter]

1 year. Jackson left last summer. So LITERALLY 1 YEAR

And we're clearly working to fix it.

With a loan? A goalkeeper from Clyde as well. Definitely showing our ambition...

[Silky]

No. It means nothing. He's got very little first team experience.

Couldn't the same have been said for Josh Doig when he was introduced? No experience, very little first team football.

[MWHIBBIES]

With a loan? A goalkeeper from Clyde as well. Definitely showing our ambition...

How about keeping all of our players? Thats clearly showing ambiton

[Brightside]

With a loan? A goalkeeper from Clyde as well. Definitely showing our ambition...

Are you ignoring the rest of the pre season signings again? But let’s go out and sign 7 players for no reason.

[madhatter]

Couldn't the same have been said for Josh Doig when he was introduced? No experience, very little first team football.

Yes. He was contracted to the club though. Not a loan. How many young players come on loan and essentially add nothing to the squad?

Boateng, Feruz...list is very long.

[AlbertK86]

So we don’t sign Ronaldo and then only bring in a 19 year old loan signing from Middlesbrough… end of the world stuff!!

But seriously is there no end to the negativity on here…? This lad could be fantastic. Most had doubts about Magennis, JDH, and a few other of Ross’s signings that have proved their worth… let’s see how this one turns out before condemning the owner and CEO!

Well said


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[Togs91]

With a loan? A goalkeeper from Clyde as well. Definitely showing our ambition...

Showing our ambition, all good players start out at the top to be fair

[GloryGlory]

Well, we made cash offers for a player that obviously JR wanted and waited for that St J didn't accept, they or us either messed around and it doesn't appear to be happening based on reports and we have moved on..to a 19 year old loan signing. Says to me that it's a bit of a panic signing with a few days left in the window.

Maybe 'panic' is the wrong word. :confused:

I prefer stop-gap. I don't see it as panicking to get a young CB who has represented England through age group levels up to U20s - obviously got something to offer or he wouldn't feature regularly for England, would he?.

I wonder if we're thinking Kerr and/or Mccart will be able to be signed on pre contracts in January so we are prepared to wait.

[AlbertK86]

It means nothing. Ffs. You don’t get in that England squad by entering a comp on the back of a Frosties box!! Yet again just maybe coaches and the recruitment team know a bit more about these players than anyone on this board.

Another well said


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[Wheat Hound]

Maybe just going to wait till Jan to sign McCart on a pre contract and this lad will cover till then.....or maybe McCart might still get signed by us on deadline day too

[JimBHibees]

Come on….he looks like a talent …already played for their first team, England international..there is nothing about that that suggests a panic signing

On the face of it recent Boro start and england u20 squad sounds potentially very interesting. May allow us to pick up the St johnstone players on pre contract.

[bigwheel]

On the face of it recent Boro start and england u20 squad sounds potentially very interesting. May allow us to pick up the St johnstone players on pre contract.

Good point Jim …may be a good tactical
Move ….

[madhatter]

Are you ignoring the rest of the pre season signings again? But let’s go out and sign 7 players for no reason.

JDH is a good signing.
Mueller who knows...
Scott is a loan.
Daniel Mackay doesn't look quite ready for first team
Murphy was here last season.

[Heisenberg]

Both St Johnstone centre halves will be away down south if we don’t act now I think. Bit Celtc and John McGinn saying “we’ll take them for free in January” imo.

[Hibs90]

It means nothing. Ffs. You don’t get in that England squad by entering a comp on the back of a Frosties box!! Yet again just maybe coaches and the recruitment team know a bit more about these players than anyone on this board.

You're making it out like the England U20's are some sort of world beaters. They ain't.

[Callum_62]

So we panic because we cant see where mccart will fit in because he must play and can't play in a 2, so it'd a waste of vital funds

Then we panic when we are apparently signing someone with a more traditional 'back up player' CV

Cool

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[Brightside]

You're making it out like the England U20's are some sort of world beaters. They ain't.


Ok England u20s squad doesn’t show that the lad has talent. We can’t sign players unless they have 30 first team games for PSG now.

[brog]

Ah well, we'll maybe just need to forget that part!

Nah, I thought he'd made a quietist start and was clubbed together with Hecky's other signings in a fairly derogatory manner to begin with. Over the course of that season though - and particularly under Ross - I thought he really started to improve, and I rated him quite highly by the time he eventually left, og notwithstanding.

I do remember thinking around then that we had a relative abundance of good CH's at that time and we now seem to have stumbled into a situation where all of a sudden we look a bit thin.

But we've actually signed quite a few decent players to play in that position since we were relegated. It's one of the reasons why it seems a bit funny that we seem to have made hard work of and a big effort to sign McCart - a player who may be decent enough, but who doesn't appear to be the world beater we've been holding out for.

I'm actually convinced that our problems mainly stem from nobody moving on - we'd have had a budget to allow for player x, y or z moving on with the money going back into the squad. As none of Doig, Porteous, Nisbet or Boyle have gone, it now means that we've got relatively little to work with and are maybe in rabbits from hats territory.

I was teasing, I liked him also though his og was a shocker! :greengrin

[Hibs90]

Ok England u20s squad doesn’t show that the law has talent. We can’t sign players unless they have 30 first team games for PSG now.

Nobody said that. Twisting folks words and exaggerating to suit your viewpoint.

[H18 SFR]

I see Greg Stewart has signed for Jamshedpur in India. Interesting move.

[madhatter]

Ok England u20s squad doesn’t show that the law has talent. We can’t sign players unless they have 30 first team games for PSG now.

It isn't that though, nobody is expecting PSG player. JR said he didn't want to sign players just to be backup. This is a clear backup signing as far as I'm concerned. We've seen many young players come from down south and literally sit on the bench every week.

Do you think Wood will oust Porteous or Hanlon? Yet he can't get into the Middlesbrough team...

Maybe he'll take over from McGinn in a back 3 I suppose.

[Brightside]

Nobody said that. Twisting folks words and exaggerating to suit your viewpoint.

So what are you saying? Can we agree that playing for the England u20s shows that the player must be decent?

[Silky]

Yes. He was contracted to the club though. Not a loan. How many young players come on loan and essentially add nothing to the squad?

Boateng, Feruz...list is very long.

He was, but still was very inexperienced at this level. Many people wanted a new left back and didn't see him as the answer.

The thing is, we don't know what the guy will be like. He might have ambition to play, further his career and show Boro that he should be a first pick-he might see us as a way to do that.

And, actually, there is nothing to say that we could spend £3, 4, 500,000 on McCart and the like and they could turn out to be terrible and we're on here lambasting the club for spending all that money on crap, which has also happened in the past!! At least with a loan they can be sent back.

[Callum_62]

So, anyone actually seen the lad play?

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[GloryGlory]

Showing our ambition, all good players start out at the top to be fair

Yes. Players start out in the first team at the likes of Real Madrid, PSG or Manchester City and work their way up to be Hibs standard, but only after at least 30-50 games for those clubs. :wink: :wink:

[Callum_62]

His da is Dean Gordon

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[Andy74]

So what are you saying? Can we agree that playing for the England u20s shows that the player must be decent?

Not sure anyone knows much about that. I’m sure he has talent.

The reaction is more the profile we probably expected to fill a long standing gap and to have us more ready for Europe this time next year etc. This isn’t really what we were thinking we were waiting until this point in the window for.

[04Sauzee]

Burnley were linked with a £9m move for him in 2019. Not sure if there was any other interest at the time.

[Tully]

So, anyone actually seen the lad play?

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Saw him play beside sol bamba against Blackpool in carabo cup , big strong laddie good in the air with good distribution

[Stuart93]

So what are you saying? Can we agree that playing for the England u20s shows that the player must be decent?

There must be plenty lads over the years who’ve represented England u20’s and went on to do the square root of nout in the game.

I’m not sure the argument that he plays for England U20’s means he’s a good player holds much substance.

That’s not me having a pop at his ability or us signing him because I don’t know nothing about him.

I posted last night about succession planning. Signing a young CB on loan that we’ll have no chance, you’d assume, of signing permanently isn’t too good for us in the long run unless we have in idea of signing McCart on a pre contract but I reckon he’ll end up down south if we don’t get him in this window.

It’s fine for people to be a bit dismayed at us not signing McCart & turning to a young laddie from down south on loan.

[JimBHibees]

You're making it out like the England U20's are some sort of world beaters. They ain't.

They will have an enormous player pool to choose from though.

[SMAXXA]

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-hibernian-agree-to-sign-middlesbrough-starlet-wood/

Another loan signing.

Another? Who else we got on loan like?

[Heisenberg]

Not sure anyone knows much about that. I’m sure he has talent.

The reaction is more the profile we probably expected to fill a long standing gap and to have us more ready for Europe this time next year etc. This isn’t really what we were thinking we were waiting until this point in the window for.

Yes exactly. Why did we wait so long for McCart then bid less than St J were asking for (reported as not even being close)? Makes little sense to me, especially considering he’s clearly been the number one target.

[Stuart93]

Another? Who else we got on loan like?

Our new striker

[GloryGlory]

Another? Who else we got on loan like?

James Scott.

[04Sauzee]

Another? Who else we got on loan like?

James Scott just last week I'm guessing

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

They will have an enormous player pool to choose from though.

So it must take a decent player to shine amongst all the others then.

[Real Emerald]

He was, but still was very inexperienced at this level. Many people wanted a new left back and didn't see him as the answer.

The thing is, we don't know what the guy will be like. He might have ambition to play, further his career and show Boro that he should be a first pick-he might see us as a way to do that.

And, actually, there is nothing to say that we could spend £3, 4, 500,000 on McCart and the like and they could turn out to be terrible and we're on here lambasting the club for spending all that money on crap, which has also happened in the past!! At least with a loan they can be sent back.

I agree with most of what you are saying but I do think a position of CB in the rough and tumble of the Premiership requires a bit of experience especially in derbies and away days to Glasgow. However, he may be brilliant, the fact we really don’t know is making people a bit nervous and underwhelmed by what on the face of it looks like a lack of ambition, but it might be inspired. Who knows!

[Smartie]

I'm actually ok with this signing. It's possible for him to be a panic signing, or a second choice, or a backup, and still be a good signing.

It would be fair to say that this transfer window hasn't gone to plan for Hibs, but in many ways a good way. At the end of last season I think any of us would have been happy if we were to make it through to at least January without any of Doig, Porteous, Nisbet or Boyle leaving. They're good players, who might have generated a sum of cash but would have taken a bit of replacing.

Obviously we've been patient regarding McCart and that may or may not backfire.

As a result of that looking to have fallen through, we've gone out and got what looks to be a solid backup. He's also not likely to be someone who will be banging Jack Ross' door down demanding to play if Hanlon comes back in, resumes his partnership with Porteous and they get back to last season's level of performance.

This guy might come in at some point, take his chance and play well. I don't think "England under 20 internationalist" is to be sniffed at, even if it is no guarantee of him being a success. He might even end up being another of the loan players who have come in, down well, with no intention of ever joining us permanently but we link ourselves with him every time the transfer window comes round.

There are many greater mistakes Hibs could have made here, which could have been much more of a panic.

I don't think it's likely that significant and good moves are going to be made late in the summer window. The players we need to be signing with a view to being first choice centre halves need to be arriving on pre-contracts or very early in the summer.

The core of our squad is decent, a few more days without a departure, the odd stop gap and a few players back from injury and I think we could have another good season.

I was a bit miffed about the McCart situation as I was under the impression he was a player we'd earmarked and that Jack Ross really wanted, and under those circumstances I think you need to make sure you get the deal done. Maybe that wasn't really the case.

[Torto7]

Burnley were linked with a £9m move for him in 2019. Not sure if there was any other interest at the time.

Thats about 200k in spl money. Reading a bit about him he sounds highly rated. Warnock is a cautious type so him sending prospects out rather than playing them isnt surprising.

[brog]

I suspect this is all part of calling St J's bluff over McCart. Some are saying we may lose out on McCart but St J effectively have 3 days to cash in or McCart could be gone for free in winter on a pre contract. Re the young lad's age, 3 of our current back 4, & to repeat once again which last year had our best defensive record for 20 seasons, were all regulars at 19. The great majority on here complain we have no defensive (CB) cover. We sign a CB as defensive cover and people still complain! Defies logic!

[Callum_62]

Yes exactly. Why did we wait so long for McCart then bid less than St J were asking for (reported as not even being close)? Makes little sense to me, especially considering he’s clearly been the number one target.We have offered what we think is fair

Infact it was reported the payment structure of the deal rather than the total value wasn't to St Johnstone liking

This loan deal might be instead of or as well as, we don't know yet

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[flash]

Burnley were linked with a £9m move for him in 2019. Not sure if there was any other interest at the time.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9880395/burnley-nathan-wood-middlesbrough-january/

Clearly has something about him.

[Brightside]

There must be plenty lads over the years who’ve represented England u20’s and went on to do the square root of nout in the game.

I’m not sure the argument that he plays for England U20’s means he’s a good player holds much substance.

That’s not me having a pop at his ability or us signing him because I don’t know nothing about him.

I posted last night about succession planning. Signing a young CB on loan that we’ll have no chance, you’d assume, of signing permanently isn’t too good for us in the long run unless we have in idea of signing McCart on a pre contract but I reckon he’ll end up down south if we don’t get him in this window.

It’s fine for people to be a bit dismayed at us not signing McCart & turning to a young laddie from down south on loan.

So when the Scotland u21 squad comes out are we saying that isn’t a barometer for the level of player that’s in there? If you are in the England u20s squad you have talent. That much is a cert.

[madhatter]

So it must take a decent player to shine amongst all the others then.

Or one with contacts. Football has many grey areas. It even happens in youth football/academies. Players are played and kept on even though they are rubbish because of who their parents are (sponsorship deal or previous pro).

Hopefully he is a good player. Suspect he'll be on bench more than anything anyway tbh unless McGinn is dropping out.

[Stuart93]

So when the Scotland u21 squad comes out are we saying that isn’t a barometer for the level of player that’s in there? If you are in the England u20s squad you have talent. That much is a cert.

Aye you need to have something about you but you’re far from the finished article at that level. It’s a risky signing for me. He could turn out to be brilliant but then we’re back in the same position needing a new CB in a years time.

[Brightside]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9880395/burnley-nathan-wood-middlesbrough-january/

Clearly has something about him.

£9m bid. I reckon I’m pretty excited.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

He’ll be back up to Hanlon. Left sided CB. Good cover tbh.

If we are spending decent money on a player then they should be for the starting 11. More signings will follow.

[Alex Trager]

Yes exactly. Why did we wait so long for McCart then bid less than St J were asking for (reported as not even being close)? Makes little sense to me, especially considering he’s clearly been the number one target.

The reports are that we have not met the way they want paid, not the value

[Brightside]

Or one with contacts. Football has many grey areas. It even happens in youth football/academies. Players are played and kept on even though they are rubbish because of who their parents are (sponsorship deal or previous pro).

Hopefully he is a good player. Suspect he'll be on bench more than anything anyway tbh unless McGinn is dropping out.

You do not get into the youth squads at international level through contacts. You can’t really be suggesting that.

[flash]

£9m bid. I reckon I’m pretty excited.

Me too.

[Eyrie]

I said last night that I wasn't a fan of paying a big (by our standards) fee for a back up centre half that we could get on a pre-contract in January and then negotiate a small fee for his early release.

Although my preference would have been an experienced player on a one year deal to fill in until we get McCart, this youngster sounds promising.

To summarise our dealings

- Permanent signings Macey, Doyle-Hayes, Mackay, Murphy and Mueller
- Loan signings Wood and Scott
- Kept all four of Porteous, Doig, Boyle (new deal) and Nisbet
- Only departures are fringe players who weren't getting a game

With Magennis and Allan now fit, we have a stronger squad than last season, even allowing for the loss of Doidge until Christmas.

[Smartie]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9880395/burnley-nathan-wood-middlesbrough-january/

Clearly has something about him.

Dean Gordon's son, according to that article.

I'm sure I remember him playing at LB for Middlesborough during a friendly at Easter Road at some point.

[flash]

Or one with contacts. Football has many grey areas. It even happens in youth football/academies. Players are played and kept on even though they are rubbish because of who their parents are (sponsorship deal or previous pro).

Hopefully he is a good player. Suspect he'll be on bench more than anything anyway tbh unless McGinn is dropping out.
Unbelievable the contortions you get yourself into rather than say something positive about Hibs.

[Selkirkhibs]

Nathan is 6 feet 2 inches height, very fast and been called up for England under 20 team.

I have the feeling we'll be shouting at the board to sign him long term from Middlesbrough not long after seeing what he can do.

Welcome Nathan.

:flag:

[Smartie]

Aye you need to have something about you but you’re far from the finished article at that level. It’s a risky signing for me. He could turn out to be brilliant but then we’re back in the same position needing a new CB in a years time.

I'd rather be short of a CB in a year's time, with a year to do something about it than be short of a CB right now.

[madhatter]

You do not get into the youth squads at international level through contacts. You can’t really be suggesting that.

Really? You've never seen a club manager become international manager and call up a player they've worked with at club level? Come on now...

[Aldo]

I love this place!


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[northeast hibby]

thats me had enough laughs for today

[madhatter]

Unbelievable the contortions you get yourself into rather than say something positive about Hibs.

Unbelievable that your post has nothing to do with the transfer itself...

You've perpetuated negativity rather than debate the topic from a positive mindset (I presume).

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Really? You've never seen a club manager become international manager and call up a player they've worked with at club level? Come on now...

Have you got evidence to back up your claim in Nathan’s case?

[Tully]

Our new striker
As I said earlier on a reply on a thread, saw him play at Blackpoo 3 weeks agol in carabo cup v Middlesbrough beside sol bamba , big strong laddie good in air and with distribution

[Heisenberg]

The reports are that we have not met the way they want paid, not the value

Not this one from their local paper.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/st-johnstone/2490583/hibs-table-a-third-bid-for-st-johnstone-defender-jamie-mccart/

[Peevemor]

Is this one of these times where if I don't piss the bed and/or moan my box off I'm "defending literally everything the club does"?

Why do people think they know better than Jack Ross & our recruitment people? Why can't people at least give the lad a chance before deciding he's no good?

When did the meaning of the word "support" change?

[flash]

Unbelievable that your post has nothing to do with the transfer itself...

You've perpetuated negativity rather than debate the topic from a positive mindset (I presume).

I posted a link about him further up the page. Have also been on twitter talking to Boro fans who all rate him very highly.
Next.

[madhatter]

Have you got evidence to back up your claim in Nathan’s case?

No. Evidence? I never claimed anything specifically about him. I responded to another poster who did claim that he'd be a good player because he's in England's u20.

I debated that membership of an international squad does not necessarily mean you are one of the best players of that nation.

[northeast hibby]

Is this one of these times where if I don't piss the bed and/or moan my box off I'm "defending literally everything the club does"?

Why do people think they know better than Jack Ross & our recruitment people? Why can't people at least give the lad a chance before deciding he's no good?

When did the meaning of the word "support" change?


thats where i'm at wait and see before downing the lad , he might be brilliant

[Borderhibbie76]

Let's give the boy a chance before we slag him off ah...I am a bit concerned tho that the last 2 signings are loans and JR said only last week we were trying to move away from Loan signings...but let's see who else is brought in between now and Tues

[madhatter]

I posted a link about him further up the page. Have also been on twitter talking to Boro fans who all rate him very highly.
Next.

What's that got to do with your post about my contortions?

Good showmanship with "Next" though. There's positivity for you.

[flash]

What's that got to do with your post about my contortions?

Good showmanship with "Next" though. There's positivity for you.

Showmanship? Just bored with positivity vacuum like you.

[Hibbyradge]

I confidently predict that the same people who are criticising the club for this loan signing, will be criticising the club in 3 months for not being able to sign the boy permanently.

[Brightside]

Really? You've never seen a club manager become international manager and call up a player they've worked with at club level? Come on now...

You’re barmy. 😂

[madhatter]

Showmanship? Just bored with positivity vacuum like you.

Personal digs. Classy.

Anybody here to debate things or is it just name calling now?

[Hibs90]

They will have an enormous player pool to choose from though.

Yes so the laddie obviously has potential especially if the reports linking him with big money moves (in Scottish terms) are true but 9m is a drop in the ocean in English football.

I’ve never seen him so I’m not saying he’s good or bad as I simply don’t know. But it does feel like a bit of a panic signing, with it being later on in the window and a loan. Look at the loans we’ve had from down south in the past, how many of them worked out?

He might be great, he might not. Time will tell but it is a signing that doesn’t particularly get me excited and feels a bit ‘last minute’.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

No. Evidence? I never claimed anything specifically about him. I responded to another poster who did claim that he'd be a good player because he's in England's u20.

I debated that membership of an international squad does not necessarily mean you are one of the best players of that nation.

Nobody’s claiming he is the best, just saying he must be decent, backed up by the article that linked him with a £9million move, along with someone who watched him play beside Sol Bamba and had praise for him.

At the end of the day, our scout network are the barometer so time will tell with him.

[flash]

Personal digs. Classy.

Anybody here to debate things or is it just name calling now?

Have a nice day. Am off to watch my team.

[Brightside]

Personal digs. Classy.

Anybody here to debate things or is it just name calling now?

A debate has to have some reasoning though surely. A player that was subject to £9m interest, is in the England u20s squad and you are going out of your way to suggest that none of that is an indication that he might just be a pretty decent player. Especially for our level. To say he might just be in the England squad through connections is just daft.

[Sioux]

Personal digs. Classy.

Anybody here to debate things or is it just name calling now?

You're not debating anything. You've decided he won't be good enough, well just because you did, without any logical analysis.

Any counter view to yours is met with the same diatribe, but you then accuse people of not debating the merits of the player? You need to lie down in a dark room.

[Gmack7]

Has he signed? Looks an excellent prospect

[flash]

Yes so the laddie obviously has potential especially if the reports linking him with big money moves (in Scottish terms) are true but 9m is a drop in the ocean in English football.

I’ve never seen him so I’m not saying he’s good or bad as I simply don’t know. But it does feel like a bit of a panic signing, with it being later on in the window and a loan. Look at the loans we’ve had from down south in the past, how many of them worked out?

He might be great, he might not. Time will tell but it is a signing that doesn’t particularly get me excited and feels a bit ‘last minute’.

How can it be a panic signing three days before the window closes?

[Hibs90]

How can it be a panic signing three days before the window closes?

It's three days before the window closes.

Next.

[CraigHibee]

Has he signed? Looks an excellent prospect

Apparently, don't think it's on the official site yet. By all accounts he's supposed to be decent, would rather a permanent than a loan tbh but it is what it is, he'll get my backing anyway

[flash]

It's three days before the window closes.

Next.

Ooh friend.

[Glass half full]

I suspect this is all part of calling St J's bluff over McCart. Some are saying we may lose out on McCart but St J effectively have 3 days to cash in or McCart could be gone for free in winter on a pre contract. Re the young lad's age, 3 of our current back 4, & to repeat once again which last year had our best defensive record for 20 seasons, were all regulars at 19. The great majority on here complain we have no defensive (CB) cover. We sign a CB as defensive cover and people still complain! Defies logic!

That's my take on it too.

St J know we want a CB. If we sign another CB our negotiating position improves as we then appear 'less desperate' to sign their player.

[neil7908]

Has he signed? Looks an excellent prospect

My worry with guys like this on loan is that if they turn out to be the real deal then he'll be gone next summer, or maybe even January. We take a risk that the guy is ready for first team football but are unlikely to get any of the longer term benefits.

[madhatter]

A debate has to have some reasoning though surely. A player that was subject to £9m interest, is in the England u20s squad and you are going out of your way to suggest that none of that is an indication that he might just be a pretty decent player. Especially for our level. To say he might just be in the England squad through connections is just daft.

Your treating your opinions as fact though and calling mine daft. £9m is paper talk in an inflated league. He is likely a decent enough player. Darnell Johnson came with a similar pedigree and never really got going for various reasons. Now he plays at Fleetwood.

If you don't believe players can get called up because of friendships and little cliques that form in football fair enough. I don't think that's modern reality of football, with some highly influential players and agents.

I was merely trying to get across let's not make him into some world beater as he likely isn't. He can't get his game for Middlesbrough. £9m interest to coming to us on loan is a bit like Tom Taiwo move to Chelsea with millions in compensation before reality hit his career.

Let's see how he does.

[A Hi-Bee]

This player will be good for Hibs, will help improve us by challenging our existing defenders, I also happen to think that the good people at our club know more about players than anyone else on here, so I am happy that the guy will be with us for at least a year. Some of the comments border on hysterics from a lot of football manager players imho.
GGTTH
:flag::flag::flag:

[Hibbyradge]

My worry with guys like this on loan is that if they turn out to be the real deal then he'll be gone next summer, or maybe even January. We take a risk that the guy is ready for first team football but are unlikely to get any of the longer term benefits.

We get the short term benefits.

[Peevemor]

We get the short term benefits.Yep. If he turns out to be brilliant then there'll be no hope of us keeping him but the loan will have worked for all parties.

[bingo70]

Would be delighted with this signing.

Never seen him play but an exciting promising youngster, even on loan, is ideal for someone to play back up to Hanlon. He’ll get more game time than he would at Boro and who knows, if he does well, we might get him back again next season.

Makes much more sense than paying £300k for someone that’s not any better than what we have already but will understandably expect to play 40 games a season.

[Crab apple]

Maybe just going to wait till Jan to sign McCart on a pre contract and this lad will cover till then.....or maybe McCart might still get signed by us on deadline day too

That’s what I’m thinking. If St J are asking for stupid money then it makes sense to wait and sign him on a pre con in January. In fact sign both Kerr and McCart on pre cons.

[madhatter]

You're not debating anything. You've decided he won't be good enough, well just because you did, without any logical analysis.

Any counter view to yours is met with the same diatribe, but you then accuse people of not debating the merits of the player? You need to lie down in a dark room.

How am I not debating? You've decided my take on things while also saying I'm not debating. Surely I've shown an opinion in a debate in order for you to come to that conclusion?

[davhibby]

My worry with guys like this on loan is that if they turn out to be the real deal then he'll be gone next summer, or maybe even January. We take a risk that the guy is ready for first team football but are unlikely to get any of the longer term benefits.

I’d much rather he was great for us and come January we’re gutted he goes back to Middlesbrough to be part of their first team squad than we decided not to bother because he won’t be here long term and are left with what we have already

[weecounty hibby]

This place has so many excitement vampires it's unbelievable. Wake up, walk dogs, excited about attending the game, see were linked with a promising young Engkand U20 player. All good so far. Come on .net and want to just chuck it, stay at home and watch the cricket on TV.

[04Sauzee]

Your treating your opinions as fact though and calling mine daft. £9m is paper talk in an inflated league. He is likely a decent enough player. Darnell Johnson came with a similar pedigree and never really got going for various reasons. Now he plays at Fleetwood.

If you don't believe players can get called up because of friendships and little cliques that form in football fair enough. I don't think that's modern reality of football, with some highly influential players and agents.

I was merely trying to get across let's not make him into some world beater as he likely isn't. He can't get his game for Middlesbrough. £9m interest to coming to us on loan is a bit like Tom Taiwo move to Chelsea with millions in compensation before reality hit his career.

Let's see how he does.

Who had Darnell Johnson played for before Hibs? Not sure if he had a loan spell before us or any first team games for Leicester?
Were there talks of big money bids?

This guy hasn't signed yet and we're still not sure he will. Only time will tell how good he is if we do sign him.

[Brightside]

Who had Darnell Johnson played for before Hibs? Not sure if he had a loan spell before us or any first team games for Leicester?
Were there talks of big money bids?

This guy hasn't signed yet and we're still not sure he will. Only time will tell how good he is if we do sign him.

And to be fair to the Darnell his career has been ruined by injury.

[Aldo]

Really? You've never seen a club manager become international manager and call up a player they've worked with at club level? Come on now...

Mike Bassett did it….. no wait that was a team written on a Benson and Hedges fag packet!


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[Callum_62]

Yes so the laddie obviously has potential especially if the reports linking him with big money moves (in Scottish terms) are true but 9m is a drop in the ocean in English football.




£9 million would be Burnleys 8th highest fee paid ever

Wouldnt call ut a drop in the ocean to them


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[Andy74]

I confidently predict that the same people who are criticising the club for this loan signing, will be criticising the club in 3 months for not being able to sign the boy permanently.

I think for some that might be part of the issue though. Little chance of it so after a year of looking we haven’t found anyone we can sign permanently and then already have bedded in for hopefully tackling Europe again.

I don’t think anyone is criticising the player himself, more the profile of a young loan signing when we’ve waited this long.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Yep. If he turns out to be brilliant then there'll be no hope of us keeping him but the loan will have worked for all parties.

It's really simple isn't it. Looks a good addition. Certainly not what people were expecting but happy to have someone with his potential even short term.

[CentreLine]

So Aberdeen sign Bates (perm) and Longstaff (loan), Hearts sign a CD with decent amount of 1st team games on loan and we are brining in a 19 year old who has played 5 times for middlesburgh.

The transfer activity in recent weeks has not quite match the ambition Ron and new CEO have been talking to the media about.....

Makes me think Doig deal was the catalyst for better players. But fallen through now. So we are on Plan D or E

Understand the frustration but feel the time to let it out is after the window closes because then we will know how successful we have been in the market rather than second guessing 🤔

[Ronniekirk]

I suspect this is all part of calling St J's bluff over McCart. Some are saying we may lose out on McCart but St J effectively have 3 days to cash in or McCart could be gone for free in winter on a pre contract. Re the young lad's age, 3 of our current back 4, & to repeat once again which last year had our best defensive record for 20 seasons, were all regulars at 19. The great majority on here complain we have no defensive (CB) cover. We sign a CB as defensive cover and people still complain! Defies logic!

I suspect a lot of people are just worried if we get Hanlon or Porto out injured fir any length of time that this Guy is relatively inexperienced
We shall just have to wait and see


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[niddriehibs32]

Omeonga signed for Livi. 2 year deal.

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[neil7908]

I think for some that might be part of the issue though. Little chance of it so after a year of looking we haven’t found anyone we can sign permanently and then already have bedded in for hopefully tackling Europe again.

I don’t think anyone is criticising the player himself, more the profile of a young loan signing when we’ve waited this long.

Well said. After getting put out by Reijka I keep hearing its about building a squad to compete in the longer term. Darren is nearly done and we'll have a 19 year old on loan for a year. So at least 2 CBs needed for next summer now. And that's if we don't have lose Porto.

[Billy Whizz]

Omeonga signed for Livi. 2 year deal.

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Just saw that, wonder if he’ll be involved today

[SaulGoodman]

Get a ****ing grip of yourselves

[JohnM1875]

Omeonga signed for Livi. 2 year deal.

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Think he'll be a great signing for Livi once he's fully match fit. Loved him in his first spell here, and no, it wasn't cause he played the piano.

[niddriehibs32]

Just saw that, wonder if he’ll be involved todayStill awaiting clearence i think.

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[neil7908]

Omeonga signed for Livi. 2 year deal.

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Be interested to see how he does. Happy with our 1st choice midfield so understand why the club haven't pursued this one.

[weecounty hibby]

Omeonga signed for Livi. 2 year deal.

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Good for him. Could be ok for them. We have a midfield full of players better than him. Never really got all the hype some of our fans had about him. Likeable guy and tried hard but ultimately not all that good

[blackpoolhibs]

I suspect this is all part of calling St J's bluff over McCart. Some are saying we may lose out on McCart but St J effectively have 3 days to cash in or McCart could be gone for free in winter on a pre contract. Re the young lad's age, 3 of our current back 4, & to repeat once again which last year had our best defensive record for 20 seasons, were all regulars at 19. The great majority on here complain we have no defensive (CB) cover. We sign a CB as defensive cover and people still complain! Defies logic!
:top marks:agree:

[SteveHFC]

Omeonga signed for Livi. 2 year deal.

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And there’s already some of our fans moaning on twitter why we haven’t signed him. 😂

[Since452]

Omeonga signed for Livi. 2 year deal.

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Liked him but the derby we lost at ER changed my opinion. Hopeless that night under the press. To be fair though wasn't just him.

[Since452]

And there’s already some of our fans moaning on twitter why we haven’t signed him. 😂

The mind boggles

[SteveHFC]

The mind boggles

We have a far better midfield at the moment so don’t need him. The reaction from some on there is over the top.

[CJHibby]

In recent times we have been embarrassing in our transfer dealing. Why do we not just go out and sign a player without all the talk and fanfare before failing to get the signature! McCart's the latest example and I'd cite the worst.

[Ray_]

Why pay out big money for a player who you can sign for nothing in January if still available?

Sensible move by Hibs IMHO, I personally trust our two main centre backs being a lot better than some of our supporters give them credit for. Most of the goals lost has been lost due to midfield committing avoidable free kicks, losing runners & failing to defend properly.

[Peevemor]

Good for him. Could be ok for them. We have a midfield full of players better than him. Never really got all the hype some of our fans had about him. Likeable guy and tried hard but ultimately not all that goodI think some fans overrated him but there was definitely potential. It's not impossible that he'll do a "Paul Hartley" if that makes sense.

[Since452]

In recent times we have been embarrassing in our transfer dealing. Why do we not just go out and sign a player without all the talk and fanfare before failing to get the signature! McCart's the latest example and I'd cite the worst.

You think our transfer dealings have been embarrassing? Really?

[Peevemor]

In recent times we have been embarrassing in our transfer dealing. Why do we not just go out and sign a player without all the talk and fanfare before failing to get the signature! McCart's the latest example and I'd cite the worst.Embarrassing? What are you on about?

[flash]

In recent times we have been embarrassing in our transfer dealing. Why do we not just go out and sign a player without all the talk and fanfare before failing to get the signature! McCart's the latest example and I'd cite the worst.

Gies peace.

[CropleyWasGod]

In recent times we have been embarrassing in our transfer dealing. Why do we not just go out and sign a player without all the talk and fanfare before failing to get the signature! McCart's the latest example and I'd cite the worst.

If there is any "talk and fanfare", it's among the fans. The Club haven't made noise about any specific target.

[Unseen work]

One final point from me as a couple on here have completely wrote McCart off after a couple below par performances in Europe.

Have yous ever spoke to opposition fans about Porteous?

The vast majority I have think he’s absolutely hopeless and actually holding us back. He makes a lot of mistakes that lead to goals. I argue with them that whilst he makes stupid stupid mistakes he’s a good centre half with lots of potential and for the majority of games is solid.

I imagine if you speak to St Johnstone fans they’ll love him but acknowledge he’s been below par for a couple of games. Doesn’t mean he’s a bad player.

[Bangkok Hibby]

In recent times we have been embarrassing in our transfer dealing. Why do we not just go out and sign a player without all the talk and fanfare before failing to get the signature! McCart's the latest example and I'd cite the worst.

Talk and fanfare on places like this surely. Not from the club.

[Vault Boy]

Excited by the prospect of Nathan Wood, hope he joins.

[Since452]

St Johnstone aren't doing anything we didn't do with Nisbet and Birmingham. Mental that folk seem to be blaming Hibs. It's St Johnstone's prerogative to tell us to bolt.

[Peevemor]

St Johnstone aren't doing anything we didn't do with Nisbet and Birmingham. Mental that folk seem to be blaming Hibs. It's St Johnstone's prerogative to tell us to bolt.Some are also saying that Hibs are asking too high a fee for Doig without acknowledging that maybe the club doesn't want him to go. It's exactly the same thing.

[JohnM1875]

And there’s already some of our fans moaning on twitter why we haven’t signed him. 😂

He was a free agent and I'd have him in the team before Gogic right now. No way do I think he'd be a regular starter in this team though. Hibs fans (actually, just football fans) on Twitter are the worst though.

[CJHibby]

McCrorie was coming to Hibs..next thing he's signed by Aberdeen, Ojo same thing. I'm old school, sign the player and then talk. Man City fans must be tearing their hair out. One minute Ronaldo is going to City next Old Trafford. They must feel right chumps(not champs).

[CentreLine]

Omeonga signed for Livi. 2 year deal.

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Good on him. Wonder if our noisy abuse mob will have a go at him like they did at Cummings?

[McD]

In recent times we have been embarrassing in our transfer dealing. Why do we not just go out and sign a player without all the talk and fanfare before failing to get the signature! McCart's the latest example and I'd cite the worst.


you mean like McKay, Doyle-Hayes, mueller, Scott, macey, Murphy?

[blackpoolhibs]

McCrorie was coming to Hibs..next thing he's signed by Aberdeen, Ojo same thing. I'm old school, sign the player and then talk. Man City fans must be tearing their hair out. One minute Ronaldo is going to City next Old Trafford. They must feel right chumps(not champs).

Tell me how well they did for the sheep last season, and how's it going for them this season so far?

[McD]

McCrorie was coming to Hibs..next thing he's signed by Aberdeen, Ojo same thing. I'm old school, sign the player and then talk. Man City fans must be tearing their hair out. One minute Ronaldo is going to City next Old Trafford. They must feel right chumps(not champs).


was it Hibs that started the public chat about these players, or did another party do that?

[Since452]

Good on him. Wonder if our noisy abuse mob will have a go at him like they did at Cummings?

Probably start a song about him being pish at the piano

[Aldo]

In recent times we have been embarrassing in our transfer dealing. Why do we not just go out and sign a player without all the talk and fanfare before failing to get the signature! McCart's the latest example and I'd cite the worst.

Really.

It’s not as easy as that though is it!

We’ve not talked about McCart and by the looks of it St J have leaked this to the press to drum up interest and try and force our hand.

So would you pay £20 grand for a car you know you get get for free or a lot less come January/next summer. (I know it’s not as clean cut as that)

By all accounts we’ve matched their value and it’s about how it’s paid!


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[dchibs]

Omeonga signed for Livi. 2 year deal.

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How did Sol miss that one?:greengrin

[Frazerbob]

In recent times we have been embarrassing in our transfer dealing. Why do we not just go out and sign a player without all the talk and fanfare before failing to get the signature! McCart's the latest example and I'd cite the worst.

This post is embarrassing

[MrSmith]

If we get through the transfer deadline without having to sell Nisbet, Porteous & Doig plus adding Mueller and a couple of others, what a window it will be :flag:🙏👏👏

[Bridge hibs]

McCrorie was coming to Hibs..next thing he's signed by Aberdeen, Ojo same thing. I'm old school, sign the player and then talk. Man City fans must be tearing their hair out. One minute Ronaldo is going to City next Old Trafford. They must feel right chumps(not champs).Have you seen Ojo and McRorie at Aberdeen, nothing special, think the latter is decent but ffs neither are any great loss

[Aldo]

McCrorie was coming to Hibs..next thing he's signed by Aberdeen, Ojo same thing. I'm old school, sign the player and then talk. Man City fans must be tearing their hair out. One minute Ronaldo is going to City next Old Trafford. They must feel right chumps(not champs).

You know fine well the goal posts were moved in both those players.

What do you want us to do….. the Hearts scattergun approach for dozens of ***** players and offer a massive transfer fee and wages to scare others off??

As for Man City being chumps not champs…. Behave.


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[ElginHibbie]

was it Hibs that started the public chat about these players, or did another party do that?

I don't agree with the guy, but sure Ron did speak publicly that we were close to signing McCorie a few days before he went to Aberdeen, but think that really taught Ron a lesson as been basically no rumors until just before someone signs since

[CJHibby]

McD glad we have done some deals diligently. The McKay one could've went wrong as well as we waited ages to finally sign the lad. Blackpool Hibs, I'd still gladly take McCrorie at Hibs now if we could. I just prefer us to go out and sign a player without weeks of the tedious will we/won't we.

[Caversham Green]

£9 million would be Burnleys 8th highest fee paid ever

Wouldnt call ut a drop in the ocean to them


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:agree: Their top fee paid is £15m.

And Boro turned down the £9m bid for Wood. By comparison they sold Patrick Bamford for £10m.

[HFC93]

Omeonga signs for Livi.

[H18 SFR]

Omeonga signs for Livi.

Great signing.

[Bridge hibs]

McD glad we have done some deals diligently. The McKay one could've went wrong as well as we waited ages to finally sign the lad. Blackpool Hibs, I'd still gladly take McCrorie at Hibs now if we could. I just prefer us to go out and sign a player without weeks of the tedious will we/won't we.Thats what transfer windows are like though and have been for many years, I actually enjoy the excitement, nowadays though on here there seems to be a lot of teeth gnashing and arse cheek flapping.

You, I and probably the majority on here don't know who are scouting, other than those mentioned in the media, we have probably been after that Middlesbrough lad for a while but maybe he hasn't been available until now. That may be the same for other targets, lets see what close of play on Tuesday brings before hitting the rage button 👍

[Bridge hibs]

Great signing.Bang average player who wouldnt get into our current midfield, prob a decent signing for them though

[H18 SFR]

Bang average player who wouldnt get into our current midfield, prob a decent signing for them though

Glad we agree.

[CJHibby]

I don't have a rage button on my keyboard but a few on here certainly do 😬

[147lothian]

If we get through the transfer deadline without having to sell Nisbet, Porteous & Doig plus adding Mueller and a couple of others, what a window it will be :flag:������

My thoughts exactly, getting Boyle to sign a new contract and keeping these players at the club is massive, huge credit has to go to Ron Gordon, these players would be near impossible to replace and being here when the transfer window closes shows how safe the club is under this current regime.

[jeffers]

Unless we were going to a back three, which I’d prefer we didn’t do, McCart isn’t better than Paul Hanlon imo so would have been back up to him. I think the club have shown they will pay if they want a player, but equally have a value they think that player is worth. If this loan signing provides cover I’m happy with that, but for me Porto’s current form and Paul Hanlon’s continued good form mean I wouldn’t be dropping either.

[Since452]

The club obviously feel McCart isn't worth what St Johnstone want. Fair doos. Move on.

[blackpoolhibs]

The club obviously feel McCart isn't worth what St Johnstone want. Fair doos. Move on.

It's a game of poker, someone has to fold.

[wookie70]

It's a game of poker, someone has to fold.
Looks more like a showdown and St Js have the aces

[blackpoolhibs]

Looks more like a showdown and St Js have the aces

Not really, he's into his last year of his contract, the price is dropping daily.

[lord bunberry]

This place has so many excitement vampires it's unbelievable. Wake up, walk dogs, excited about attending the game, see were linked with a promising young Engkand U20 player. All good so far. Come on .net and want to just chuck it, stay at home and watch the cricket on TV.
You can do both now mate, the cricket finished early. :greengrin

[Bridge hibs]

The club obviously feel McCart isn't worth what St Johnstone want. Fair doos. Move on.Its been said a few times on here that the fee has been agreed but its the structure of the payments that are the issue, I still think he will sign

[Sir David Gray]

Omeonga signed for Livi. 2 year deal.

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Potentially an excellent signing for them.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Watford have sold some dude to Palace for 6m possibly rising to 10m



they could give us 5m for josh now and still have 1m in the bank for a rainy day :)

[HendoDelivered]

This thread 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[CentreLine]

McD glad we have done some deals diligently. The McKay one could've went wrong as well as we waited ages to finally sign the lad. Blackpool Hibs, I'd still gladly take McCrorie at Hibs now if we could. I just prefer us to go out and sign a player without weeks of the tedious will we/won't we.

I think your comment about McKay flies in the face of both Inverness and his agent were hugely complementary of the way Hibs handled the dealing they had. Bearing in mind that their agent has an issue with Hibs ordinarily and does not hold back in his role on Sportsound.

[degenerated]

I think your comment about McKay flies in the face of both Inverness and his agent were hugely complementary of the way Hibs handled the dealing they had. Bearing in mind that their agent has an issue with Hibs ordinarily and does not hold back in his role on Sportsound.He also agreed terms with Hibs over a month before the window opened and presumably couldn't speak to Hibs till a fee had been agreed, so I can't see in what way it can be described as Hibs dragging their heels.

[CentreLine]

He also agreed terms with Hibs over a month before the window opened and presumably couldn't speak to Hibs till a fee had been agreed, so I can't see in what way it can be described as Hibs dragging their heels.

Absolutely. It’s strange how perspectives can be changed by disregarding the facts.

[Since452]

Its been said a few times on here that the fee has been agreed but its the structure of the payments that are the issue, I still think he will sign

Didn't realise that cheers. Sounds like it's something that can be sorted out in that case.

[J-C]

6 pages of people moaning, greetin and general knicker pi shing about players we should sign, haven't signed or are signing but they're either overrated of gash.

This place is a ball at times.:greengrin

[jacomo]

Potentially an excellent signing for them.


Didn’t see this one coming.

Loved Stephen Omeonga’s attitude and will be strange to see him play against us. Appreciate that this ship sailed for us a while ago… but you do wonder what could have been.

[heretoday]

Utter nonsense

It's not nonsense. The best teams are built from the back. And without Hanlon we are bereft.

[CJHibby]

Centreline/degenerated I put my hands up to being wrong if Hibs dealt with the McKay signing as well as reported but it was very similar to the McCrorie saga that ended with us being gazumped by Aberdeen at the last minute and was why I put that one forward. I'd prefer Hibs to keep targets under wraps and then announce the signing, that's all.

[Greencore]

Get JDH on a new deal!!!!

[cabbageandribs1875]

Centreline/degenerated I put my hands up to being wrong if Hibs dealt with the McKay signing as well as reported but it was very similar to the McCrorie saga that ended with us being gazumped by Aberdeen at the last minute and was why I put that one forward. I'd prefer Hibs to keep targets under wraps and then announce the signing, that's all.


rarely possible nowadays with players agents trying to stir interest by announcing/leaking in public there's interest in the player

[Bridge hibs]

Get JDH on a new deal!!!!How was he today mate ?

[Bridge hibs]

Centreline/degenerated I put my hands up to being wrong if Hibs dealt with the McKay signing as well as reported but it was very similar to the McCrorie saga that ended with us being gazumped by Aberdeen at the last minute and was why I put that one forward. I'd prefer Hibs to keep targets under wraps and then announce the signing, that's all.Its not about what hibs say or do, McRories agent was negotiating with the clubs to get him the best deal and Aberdeen jumped in ahead of us, how is that hibs fault ?

[Greencore]

How was he today mate ?

I thought he was great.

[Since452]

Get JDH on a new deal!!!!

Guy looks like he's played for us for years. Quality.

[Peevemor]

Centreline/degenerated I put my hands up to being wrong if Hibs dealt with the McKay signing as well as reported but it was very similar to the McCrorie saga that ended with us being gazumped by Aberdeen at the last minute and was why I put that one forward. I'd prefer Hibs to keep targets under wraps and then announce the signing, that's all.Hibs never announce targets. Ron Gordon never spoke about McCrorie either from what I remember.

Agents pull all the strings and leak stuff to other teams as well as the media. There's nothing Hibs can do about that.

[Greencore]

Ron Gordon never spoke about McCrorie either from what I remember.

He did, on hibs TV. Was during half time can't remember who we were playing

[Bridge hibs]

I thought he was great.Cheers mate 👍

[Peevemor]

He did, on hibs TV. Was during half time can't remember who we were playingSorry. I stand corrected.

https://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2020/08/16/ron-gordon-suggests-points-deductions-for-covid-19-breaches-offers-ross-mccrorie-martin-boyle-updates/

[CJHibby]

Thanks for all the enlightenment guys. Have a great weekend everyone. Wife's happy as I'm not Mr. Grumps tonight so we can go out and enjoy a nice quiet meal.

[Aldo]

I thought he was great.

He was indeed but I thought Magennis was just that wee bit better today.

JDH and Magennis forming a superb partnership. I think we missed Newell today!


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[Borderhibbie76]

He was indeed but I thought Magennis was just that wee bit better today.

JDH and Magennis forming a superb partnership. I think we missed Newell today!


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Me deffo miss Newell but Magennis and JDH were excellent

[Aldo]

Me deffo miss Newell but Magennis and JDH were excellent

On the front foot time and time again.

JDH signing is a master stroke by JR. Both are so comfortable on the ball.

Will see what happens in a couple of weeks time against the 7 defenders Robbie will put out


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[Dazzjw1875]

Did anyone else hear JR interview on sportsound? Heard it on way home in car in between kids moaning there starving but sure he said there was players in the stand watching today that they are close to signing and hopes the crowd today sealed the deals?

[Unseen work]

Ross pretty much confirming Nathan Wood is signing and we’ll “hopefully be able to announce it soon”

[04Sauzee]

Did anyone else hear JR interview on sportsound? Heard it on way home in car in between kids moaning there starving but sure he said there was players in the stand watching today that they are close to signing and hopes the crowd today sealed the deals?
Think he said the Boro boy was in the stand , hopes still to get somebody in middle to front? Things might change depending on Murphy. Like you I had a noisy car so could have picked things up wrong.

[007]

Think he said the Boro boy was in the stand , hopes still to get somebody in middle to front? Things might change depending on Murphy. Like you I had a noisy car so could have picked things up wrong.

Yes, he did say he was in the stand. Said he was hoping to bring him in for the season which sounds to me like a loan.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Wood_(footballer)

[PatHead]

Think he said the Boro boy was in the stand , hopes still to get somebody in middle to front? Things might change depending on Murphy. Like you I had a noisy car so could have picked things up wrong.

He definitely was in the stand with his partner.

[Real Emerald]

Think he said the Boro boy was in the stand , hopes still to get somebody in middle to front? Things might change depending on Murphy. Like you I had a noisy car so could have picked things up wrong.

I’m now starting to think we should be involved looking at a loan deal for Griffiths. Murphy is out more than in and Scott doesn’t look like a natural CF (time will tell). While we’re still short on numbers up front and not expecting Mueller until January it would be a great option to have. What could possibly go wrong?

[BlackSheep]

He definitely was in the stand with his partner.

Saw him around 1pm outside the club shop with his girlfriend. Defo watched today.

[Peevemor]

Saw him around 1pm outside the club shop with his girlfriend. Defo watched today.What's she like? We still haven't replaced Shelly Marciano.

[Unseen work]

What's she like? We still haven't replaced Shelly Marciano.

I suggest you view Mr James Scott’s girlfriends Instagram.

It’s like Magennis replacing John McGinn, always going to be tough but doing a fantastic job.

[eastmainsmsh]

Dean Gordon his Da no a bad player either

[bingo70]

Dean Gordon his Da no a bad player either

Did he not have a trial at Hibs once as well?

Sure it was around the time we signed David Murphy instead.

[HoboHarry]

Dean Gordon his Da no a bad player either

Look at his Wiki page... 8 clubs in 2006 alone lol.....

[CapitalGreen]

Did he not have a trial at Hibs once as well?

Sure it was around the time we signed David Murphy instead.

Yup, I remember being disappointed we didn’t get him and that I’d never heard of our seemingly 2nd choice target in Murphy.

[Cod Boy]

Probably going to be a bench warmer can’t see him being a regular starter

[MrSmith]

Probably going to be a bench warmer can’t see him being a regular starter

Contrary to your opinion, I can see him being a first pick and a player we want to keep past his loan.

[SMAXXA]

Interesting when you look at opinions on players. A recent example being Ross Stewart who we tried to sign, read a lot of negative comments he’s not good enough etc but to be fair he’s been scoring goals regularly for Sunderland. I know it’s league one down there but still seems to be doing well.

Recruitment hasn’t been far off at all last couple of seasons or since mathie took on his role.

[Brightside]

I’m now starting to think we should be involved looking at a loan deal for Griffiths. Murphy is out more than in and Scott doesn’t look like a natural CF (time will tell). While we’re still short on numbers up front and not expecting Mueller until January it would be a great option to have. What could possibly go wrong?

Fingers crossed we aren’t.

[King Cosell]

In 2014, Nathan Wood was in a CBeebies show called 'Our School'. It's on YouTube.

[04Sauzee]

Moira Gordon tweets

Hibs could have several new faces in by the close of the transfer window. Goalkeeper, centre-half, left-back and a couple of attacking options all being lined up. Much depends on injuries and who moves on/heads out on loan but could be a busy few days ahead.

[Borderhibbie76]

Moira Gordon tweets

Hibs could have several new faces in by the close of the transfer window. Goalkeeper, centre-half, left-back and a couple of attacking options all being lined up. Much depends on injuries and who moves on/heads out on loan but could be a busy few days ahead.

Was just about to post this...sounds promising

[bingo70]

Was just about to post this...sounds promising

The first three are quite obvious and pretty much out in the public domain anyway.

The couple of attacking options are a bit more interesting but still not much of a scoop really.

[Iggy Pope]

Moira Gordon tweets

Hibs could have several new faces in by the close of the transfer window. Goalkeeper, centre-half, left-back and a couple of attacking options all being lined up. Much depends on injuries and who moves on/heads out on loan but could be a busy few days ahead.

Moira Gordon is a twally

[CMurdoch]

The first three are quite obvious and pretty much out in the public domain anyway.

The couple of attacking options are a bit more interesting but still not much of a scoop really.

Is correct.
These cut and paste journalists know little more than folk on here do.
If you pushed her on the forward players she would probably say Billy Bunter Griffiths who incidentally I predicted for Dundee on these very pages a week ago ..........although I did say he would be there next season but hey ho still closer than slavers like her.

[SMAXXA]

Is correct.
These cut and paste journalists know little more than folk on here do.
If you pushed her on the forward players she would probably say Billy Bunter Griffiths who incidentally I predicted for Dundee on these very pages a week ago ..........although I did say he would be there next season but hey ho still closer than slavers like her.

Well done you, some prediction 😂😉

[Unseen work]

So

David Mitchell - GK - 31 year old from Ayr
Nathan Wood - CB - 19 year old from Middlesbrough
Kristoffer Tonnesson - LB - 23 year old left back from Start

No idea who the attackers would be but interesting we still want further options as I think it’s needed. For me we need experience.

The thought of our back 4 being
McGinn Porteous Wood Doig

is quite worrying purely because the lack of experience.

Up top Nisbet and Scott are really good and have lots of potential but can’t help but feel we need a bit of a physical presence and experience.

I also have a feeling Allan will leave for someone like Dundee.

[brog]

Interesting when you look at opinions on players. A recent example being Ross Stewart who we tried to sign, read a lot of negative comments he’s not good enough etc but to be fair he’s been scoring goals regularly for Sunderland. I know it’s league one down there but still seems to be doing well.

Recruitment hasn’t been far off at all last couple of seasons or since mathie took on his role.

I agree but Charlie Wyke scored about 30 goals for Sunderland last season and he's hopeless.

[HoboHarry]

I agree but Charlie Wyke scored about 30 goals for Sunderland last season and he's hopeless.

Seems like a fairly liberal use of the word hopeless. Any player who scores 30 in a season could fairly be called valuable.

[Greencore]

So

David Mitchell - GK - 31 year old from Ayr
Nathan Wood - CB - 19 year old from Middlesbrough
Kristoffer Tonnesson - LB - 23 year old left back from Start

No idea who the attackers would be but interesting we still want further options as I think it’s needed. For me we need experience.

The thought of our back 4 being
McGinn Porteous Wood Doig

is quite worrying purely because the lack of experience.

Up top Nisbet and Scott are really good and have lots of potential but can’t help but feel we need a bit of a physical presence and experience.

I also have a feeling Allan will leave for someone like Dundee.
Chance would be a fine thing.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Contrary to your opinion, I can see him being a first pick and a player we want to keep past his loan.

Based on what? The guy is 19 and has 17 first team appearances 13 of them for Crewe. According to his local paper there are 3 guys in front of him in the pecking order at Middlesbrough, if that is the case what makes him a 'first pick' in front of Hanlon, Porteous or even McGregor.

I think we need an experienced battle hardened centre half to challenge the back three we already have, so far we have taken on two 19 year olds who have nothing more than the possibility that they could make it at this level, but nothing, absolutely nothing, in their CVs that suggest they could walk in the door and make any more of a contribution than any of our current three.

[Andy74]

Based on what? The guy is 19 and has 17 first team appearances 13 of them for Crewe. According to his local paper there are 3 guys in front of him in the pecking order at Middlesbrough, if that is the case what makes him a 'first pick' in front of Hanlon, Porteous or even McGregor.

I think we need an experienced battle hardened centre half to challenge the back three we already have, so far we have taken on two 19 year olds who have nothing more than the possibility that they could make it at this level, but nothing, absolutely nothing, in their CVs that suggest they could walk in the door and make any more of a contribution than any of our current three.

He does sound a promising player but yes, I was hoping this year for another experienced centre half who could help things like our Hampden defeats not happen again. As you say, battle hardened to some extent.

[ElginHibbie]

He does sound a promising player but yes, I was hoping this year for another experienced centre half who could help things like our Hampden defeats not happen again. As you say, battle hardened to some extent.

Our Hampden defeats had a lot more to do with the guys at other end of pitch not performing or taking their chances than us missing some magical "battle hardened" center back

[kaimendhibs]

I hope JR refers to Hibs.net for advice on his signings and team selections. Absolute experts on here.

[JammyDoidger]

Aye the last thing we need is a young centre half on loan from an average championship side. Go get the right player in permanently hibs, someone that's going to put pressure on Hanlon and porteous, or better yet, start infront of them. That's what we need! Be nice to have an Absoloute bruiser that when we get a corner we fancy him for a goal, a rob jones type!

[Block]

Aye the last thing we need is a young centre half on loan from an average championship side. Go get the right player in permanently hibs, someone that's going to put pressure on Hanlon and porteous, or better yet, start infront of them. That's what we need! Be nice to have an Absoloute bruiser that when we get a corner we fancy him for a goal, a rob jones type!

The last thing we need is an 'Absoloute bruiser'.

Porto had a decent game today and a clean sheet at home is always a great outcome for any defence. In fact Macey hardly had a save to make the whole match. Let's not pre judge Nathan until we've seen him play. Could be yet another piece of great business from Jack Ross.

[CMurdoch]

Aye the last thing we need is a young centre half on loan from an average championship side. Go get the right player in permanently hibs, someone that's going to put pressure on Hanlon and porteous, or better yet, start infront of them. That's what we need! Be nice to have an Absoloute bruiser that when we get a corner we fancy him for a goal, a rob jones type!

Dear JD can you please email Hibs and tell them where they can buy "the right player" for less than £300k.
I'm sure they would like to know where this big pile of cheap top class players is. They could pick out a striker at the same time.
I must say it surprises me that no one within Scottish football knows about it.
Hearts pretended they knew where it was for a while but it just turned out to be a load of duffers so I thought it didn't exist like the loch ness monster.

[JammyDoidger]

Dear JD can you please email Hibs and tell them where they can buy "the right player" for less than £300k.
I'm sure they would like to know where this big pile of cheap top class players is. They could pick out a striker at the same time.
I must say it surprises me that no one within Scottish football knows about it.
Hearts pretended they knew where it was for a while but it just turned out to be a load of duffers so I thought it didn't exist like the loch ness monster.

There was one available for free in the summer? Declan gallagher..that's just off the top of my head.

[Block]

There was one available for free in the summer? Declan gallagher..that's just off the top of my head.

Did you email Hibernian with your off the top of your head managerial skill Jammy?

Bet Jack Ross was totally intrigued by your talent spotting expertise.

[JammyDoidger]

Did you email Hibernian with your off the top of your head managerial skill Jammy?

Bet Jack Ross was totally intrigued by your talent spotting expertise.

No much need to get wide pal, we all want the same thing and that's what's best for hibs.

[Block]

No much need to get wide pal, we all want the same thing and that's what's best for hibs.

You deserved it frankly with your pish patter about Hanlon and Porteous. They're both very good footballing defenders. An Absoloute bruiser is extremely unlikely to get into the first team before any of they two any day of the week. I hope that you take my point on board and concede to it.

[JammyDoidger]

You deserved it frankly with your pish patter about Hanlon and Porteous. They're both very good footballing defenders. An Absoloute bruiser is extremely unlikely to get into the first team before any of they two any day of the week. I hope that you take my point on board and concede to it.

Personally think you've jumped the gun and taken it out of context, the absolute bruiser I reverted to should still be able to play too, I wouldn't want a donkey in Christ, just mean someone that's a bit more aggressive and strikes fear into strikers, not to be messed with. Feel we miss a wee bit of that.

[Block]

Personally think you've jumped the gun and taken it out of context, an the absolute bruiser might still be able to play too, just mean someone that's a bit more aggressive and strikes fear into strikers, not to be messed with. Feel we miss a wee bit of that.

Respect that you've come back in with a good point to make. Yeah, we do need cover in the foreseeable future due to the fact that Darren Legend McGregor wont be there to bale us out indefinitely. Hard to find a bruiser who can also pass the ball around like a midfielder can though, because that's what the modern defender has to be able to do these days. Fair do's Jammy.

[King Cosell]

Respect that you've come back in with a good point to make. Yeah, we do need cover in the foreseeable future due to the fact that Darren Legend McGregor wont be there to bale us out indefinitely. Hard to find a bruiser who can also pass the ball around like a midfielder can though, because that's what the modern defender has to be able to do these days. Fair do's Jammy.

Six months younger than Ronaldo. Used sparingly, McGregor's got a good couple of seasons left in him.

[zlatan]

There was one available for free in the summer? Declan gallagher..that's just off the top of my head.

Have you seen his performances for Aberdeen so far?

[Block]

Six months younger than Ronaldo. Used sparingly, McGregor's got a good couple of seasons left in him.

Wouldn't we all love to see the legend have at least a couple more seasons in him. Played very well today. Why not?

[cabbageandribs1875]

so I thought it didn't exist like the loch ness monster.


heyyy not kool, i've saw nessie with my own damn eyes

[tam4hibs]

Did you email Hibernian with your off the top of your head managerial skill Jammy?

Bet Jack Ross was totally intrigued by your talent spotting expertise.

Agree with Jammy, no need to be a wide smart arse about it.

The boys got an opinion on CHs, ours and the potential signing. It’s no wrong, just an opinion and wants the best for Hibs then gets arsey replies.

FWIW I don’t see the need for a 19yo CH on loan. not sure what the upside long term would be for Hibs and has us in a worse position come Jan/Summer.

29th august, say what you like about ‘Mathie Ken’s best’ but this stinks of panic buying.

[Rumble de Thump]

Agree with Jammy, no need to be a wide smart arse about it.

The boys got an opinion on CHs, ours and the potential signing. It’s no wrong, just an opinion and wants the best for Hibs then gets arsey replies.

FWIW I don’t see the need for a 19yo CH on loan. not sure what the upside long term would be for Hibs and has us in a worse position come Jan/Summer.

29th august, say what you like about ‘Mathie Ken’s best’ but this stinks of panic buying.

Surely this would negate the need for panic buying.

[Callum_62]

FWIW I don’t see the need for a 19yo CH on loan. not sure what the upside long term would be for Hibs and has us in a worse position come Jan/Summer.

29th august, say what you like about ‘Mathie Ken’s best’ but this stinks of panic buying.

What if he helps us win a cup and qualify for Europe?

Surely that puts us in a better position financially next summer?



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[Dmas]

Agree with Jammy, no need to be a wide smart arse about it.

The boys got an opinion on CHs, ours and the potential signing. It’s no wrong, just an opinion and wants the best for Hibs then gets arsey replies.

FWIW I don’t see the need for a 19yo CH on loan. not sure what the upside long term would be for Hibs and has us in a worse position come Jan/Summer.

29th august, say what you like about ‘Mathie Ken’s best’ but this stinks of panic buying.

It’s not a panic they’ve been trying like a bear to get target no.1 mccart all summer it’s not worked out they’ve moved on to a loan target with the hope they can either sign or pre contract mccart in the jan window, should they go chucking the cash away on someone the manager doesn’t want just to appease us?

[Dublin07]

There was one available for free in the summer? Declan gallagher..that's just off the top of my head.

Gallagher doesn’t fit the type we are trying to sign. We want to sign players early to mid 20’s that will have potential sell on value like nisbet, magennis etc. It will mean missing out on some players but I think it’s the right thing to do to build the club. If we want to constantly improved then we need to make profit . It’s frustrating at times when rivals sign players but I think we can all see the improvement it is bringing.

[Ray_]

This stinks of not paying above our valuation for a target and bringing in the next choice who, if nothing else, will buy time to get/wait until a longer-term solution becomes available. Eddie Turnbull wanted a keeper, centre forward & right winger when he first came into Hibs. The keeper was available immediately, ET played the patience game for the other two and the fans were extremely well rewarded with Alex Edwards and Alan Gordon, which cost us a combined fee of 25k.

[tam4hibs]

It’s not a panic they’ve been trying like a bear to get target no.1 mccart all summer it’s not worked out they’ve moved on to a loan target with the hope they can either sign or pre contract mccart in the jan window, should they go chucking the cash away on someone the manager doesn’t want just to appease us?

So we fail in our priority CH target, jack has been public in wanting a CH, then 2 days before the end of the window we are linked with a Youth Player loan from a below average championship side.

That’s pretty much what I see as panic.

If he wins is the cup, qualify for Europe etc then ofcourse a huge upside. But, in reality, he plays well and then goes back. No real upside of developing another teams player for a season.

And when he goes, our defenders are another year older and we need to sign again next summer. Repeat, miss targets, get another loan and the year is no 2046 before we actually sign a defender.