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loanheadhibby
01-09-2021, 09:30 AM
It worries me that any Hibs fan thinks that the non-playing staff at the club are "hanging about" or doing their job on the basis of "hoping" something falls in their lap.

It's actually p!$$ poor to suggest it, or to suggest that those people's bosses would allow that to be the case.

Easy tiger! I was merely suggesting they were maybe taking a gamble on better quality players being available at the end of the window.

Hibs90
01-09-2021, 09:31 AM
Would you rather have a player desperate to make a contribution or a journyman who's happy to sit on his arse until there's an injury? More than happy to have Gullan right now.

I’d have rather that recruitment got this sorted ages ago instead of faffing around if you want to call it that. We’ve had plenty time and knew for over a year another striker was needed and it looks like we got a bit desperate with last nights failed attempt.

I don’t see Gullan or Scott for that matter, scoring anywhere near the amount of goals required to replace Nisbets goals in the event of an injury or whatever. if he manages to stay fit and play every week between now and Jan then we might be ok.

easty
01-09-2021, 09:32 AM
From a club perspective that's OK. Pretty much doing a Shaw and Murray to Gullan though. His career is stagnating at a critical time. He needs to be starting every week.

Does “doing a Shaw and Murray” mean not playing guys who aren’t good enough to play for us?

Heisenberg
01-09-2021, 09:33 AM
We needed someone to fill in for Doidge, from what I’ve seen of Scott so far that’s not him.

SlickShoes
01-09-2021, 09:33 AM
I’d have rather that recruitment got this sorted ages ago instead of faffing around if you want to call it that. We’ve had plenty time and knew for over a year another striker was needed and it looks like we got a bit desperate with last nights failed attempt.

I don’t see Gullan or Scott for that matter, scoring anywhere near the amount of goals required to replace Nisbets goals if he manages to stay fit and play every week between now and Jan.

So you think we should sign a 20 goals a season striker as backup, just incase Nisbet gets injured?

If you are playing regularly and scoring 20 goals a season, whatever level really, you are not going to come to Hibs to sit on the bench just in case the players above you in the pecking order get injured.

Not even mentioning that Strikers scoring at this rate are like gold dust anyway.

Hibs90
01-09-2021, 09:33 AM
They kind of said that they would use Boyle as back up striker and they have Mckay who can play in Boyle position?

So in turn by doing that making us weaker.

easty
01-09-2021, 09:35 AM
Would you rather have a player desperate to make a contribution or a journyman who's happy to sit on his arse until there's an injury? More than happy to have Gullan right now.

Depends on the journeyman. I’d take any journeyman for 6 months, so long as he’s better than Gullan. Gullan hasnt looked like he’s good enough for this level. He’s not had much of a chance, but that’s obviously because the manager doesn’t think he justifies it, and when he has been on the pitch, he’s not done anything.

Hibs90
01-09-2021, 09:36 AM
So you think we should sign a 20 goals a season striker as backup, just incase Nisbet gets injured?

If you are playing regularly and scoring 20 goals a season, whatever level really, you are not going to come to Hibs to sit on the bench just in case the players above you in the pecking order get injured.

Not even mentioning that Strikers scoring at this rate are like gold dust anyway.

Nobody mentioned 20 goals.

But someone in the mould of Keatings when he was here. Appearances off the bench, starting a few and still scoring a few and contributing. Just someone who you know will at least get you a few goals. That has to be better than going with Gullan who clearly isn’t fancied, and to be fair to him at this point I feel bad for him and or Scott who’s goal record is terrible and probably technically isn’t a striker.

Ozyhibby
01-09-2021, 09:39 AM
So in turn by doing that making us weaker.

If Nisbet gets injured we are going to be weaker. Same for every team in the league.


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greenlex
01-09-2021, 09:39 AM
He’s not at a higher level?

I’m talking about young strikers at English premiership or high end English championship clubs that aren’t even making the match day squads for clubs but have a lot of potential.

There must be loads of them.
Will any of them be any hungrier than Gullan? I’m happy to hold onto him for back up and 20 mins of games. He’s never let us down.

bingo70
01-09-2021, 09:42 AM
Will any of them be any hungrier than Gullan? I’m happy to hold onto him for back up and 20 mins of games. He’s never let us down.

Ross clearly doesn’t like Gullan so what you or I think of him is neither here nor there.

That’s the point really.

Since452
01-09-2021, 09:43 AM
I’d have rather that recruitment got this sorted ages ago instead of faffing around if you want to call it that. We’ve had plenty time and knew for over a year another striker was needed and it looks like we got a bit desperate with last nights failed attempt.

I don’t see Gullan or Scott for that matter, scoring anywhere near the amount of goals required to replace Nisbets goals in the event of an injury or whatever. if he manages to stay fit and play every week between now and Jan then we might be ok.

I don't think we could have signed anyone capable of replacing Nisbet in all honesty. He's rated at 5 million by us and is a full international. He's arguably the best striker in Scotland outside the OF. If we lost him we'd struggle regardless of who we signed yesterday. The key was keeping hold of him. Don't get me wrong, i'd have personally liked another striker in like most other folk but looking out there i can't think of anyone that would come in and do any better than Gullan would short term. Mueller will give us more options it's a pity we couldn't get him released this early.

gegs70
01-09-2021, 09:43 AM
So in turn by doing that making us weaker.



Not saying its ideal would prefer another striker.

Jones28
01-09-2021, 09:44 AM
Obviously the happy clappers are going to be alright with this shambolic disaster of a transfer window.

If they want to accept mediocrity that’s fine. However I want what’s best for OUR club.

Ron needs to start putting his hands in his pockets and PONY UP.

😂😂😂

Greenbeard
01-09-2021, 09:45 AM
Okay so if Nisbet gets an injury, you’d be happy to play Scott or Gullan between then and Xmas, when Doidge might not even be fit until January. depending on how his recovery goes.

That’s daft.

Most clubs bar the OF and maybe Sheep would be happy to have Scott and Gullan as their first and second choice strikers, never mind 3rd and 4th choice.

Greenworld
01-09-2021, 09:48 AM
Most clubs bar the OF and maybe Sheep would be happy to have Scott and Gullan as their first and second choice strikers, never mind 3rd and 4th choice.Non of the bid for them though and it wouldn't take much of a fee.

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RossScott1991
01-09-2021, 09:49 AM
Signed JDH who is improvement on Gogic.
Young Daniel Mackay, and James Scott coming in.

More importantly retained Porteous, Nisbet, Doig and Boyle. Porteous and Nisbet in contract talks. Putting us in a healthy position.

Ideally a striker would have been good but with Boyle , Nisbet and Gullan as cover I think we can survive until December. Also lots of attacking midfielders to play in behind.

December will see Doidge back and January the arrival of Mueller.

All in all we haven’t been weakened , maybe couple positions could have done with 1 more but I’d say pretty good window. 8/10 for me

Since452
01-09-2021, 09:52 AM
Signed JDH who is improvement on Gogic.
Young Daniel Mackay, and James Scott coming in.

More importantly retained Porteous, Nisbet, Doig and Boyle. Porteous and Nisbet in contract talks. Putting us in a healthy position.

Ideally a striker would have been good but with Boyle , Nisbet and Gullan as cover I think we can survive until December. Also lots of attacking midfielders to play in behind.

December will see Doidge back and January the arrival of Mueller.

All in all we haven’t been weakened , maybe couple positions could have done with 1 more but I’d say pretty good window. 8/10 for me

Sums it up well and i agree. We'll be more than fine.

PatHead
01-09-2021, 09:55 AM
I’d have rather that recruitment got this sorted ages ago instead of faffing around if you want to call it that. We’ve had plenty time and knew for over a year another striker was needed and it looks like we got a bit desperate with last nights failed attempt.

I don’t see Gullan or Scott for that matter, scoring anywhere near the amount of goals required to replace Nisbets goals in the event of an injury or whatever. if he manages to stay fit and play every week between now and Jan then we might be ok.
No matter who we get they will not replace Nisbet's goals. You have to remember that Nisbet is a multi million pound striker.

If an offer had come in for him then we would have had more to outlay on another striker. Would you rather we had spent hundreds of thousands of pounds to bring a player like Scott to the club on the chance that we had sold Nisbet? If Doidge is fit he then Scott spends time sitting on the bench when the money could have been spent elsewhere.

If we had sold Porto or Doig, what would have been the priority position to fill? Their position or another centre forward? We have a number of players who are admired by other clubs. They didn't meet our valuation though so we didn't know our budget.

We have a limited budget and will spend it on the positions that needed replacing. That is the correct way to conduct transfer business unless you want massive squad full of players who will get nowhere near the first team. In an ideal world we would have got an extra forward but we didn't and it is what it is. There was obviously no-one we could get who the manager rated above Gullan.

No sense in moaning about it.

easty
01-09-2021, 09:57 AM
Most clubs bar the OF and maybe Sheep would be happy to have Scott and Gullan as their first and second choice strikers, never mind 3rd and 4th choice.

I don’t think that’s true.

Hermit Crab
01-09-2021, 10:00 AM
Most clubs bar the OF and maybe Sheep would be happy to have Scott and Gullan as their first and second choice strikers, never mind 3rd and 4th choice.


Yeah, that why they were banging our door, and Hulls trying to sign them both. Scott isn't an all out striker and Gullane is not good enough (on current evidence) for this league.

SHODAN
01-09-2021, 10:01 AM
Ricardo Vaz Te is a free agent.

Torto7
01-09-2021, 10:03 AM
We have plenty of options up front until Jan with Muellar and Doidge to come back then, maybe we will add a free transfer. What mythical squad in the Spl has better depth in attacking areas than us? Some folk wanted creepy Leigh back and are attacking the club because we werent interested.

BegbieHSC
01-09-2021, 10:05 AM
Hope we manage to get McGrath in January, although our very public making an arse of his transfer will have brought his availability to the attention of others. Would be shocked if the sheep aren’t competing for his signature in January.

calumhibee1
01-09-2021, 10:05 AM
Most clubs bar the OF and maybe Sheep would be happy to have Scott and Gullan as their first and second choice strikers, never mind 3rd and 4th choice.

I’d suggest any club with Scott and Gullan as first and second choice strikers would be facing the drop due to a lack of goals.

calumhibee1
01-09-2021, 10:06 AM
Ricardo Vaz Te is a free agent.

Can’t believe he’s only 34!

Torto7
01-09-2021, 10:06 AM
Yeah, that why they were banging our door, and Hulls trying to sign them both. Scott isn't an all out striker and Gullane is not good enough (on current evidence) for this league.

Scott had lots of interest and in the modern game versatility is a boon as our manager has said constantly.Scott can and has already played as a striker. Gullan not Gullane.

Ozyhibby
01-09-2021, 10:07 AM
Hope we manage to get McGrath in January, although our very public making an arse of his transfer will have brought his availability to the attention of others. Would be shocked if the sheep aren’t competing for his signature in January.

I’m pretty sure every club knows of his availability anyway.


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Bridge hibs
01-09-2021, 10:07 AM
Hope we manage to get McGrath in January, although our very public making an arse of his transfer will have brought his availability to the attention of others. Would be shocked if the sheep aren’t competing for his signature in January.When did hibs go public on this one and what did they say, apologies if I missed it ?

Heisenberg
01-09-2021, 10:08 AM
Hope we manage to get McGrath in January, although our very public making an arse of his transfer will have brought his availability to the attention of others. Would be shocked if the sheep aren’t competing for his signature in January.

Think we’ve missed our chance now. Be plenty clubs down south willing to take a punt on a pre contract I’d have thought. Same with McCart.

h18eeynick
01-09-2021, 10:09 AM
Brandon Barker told by Rangers that he can find a new club. Its a no from me but ??

Jones28
01-09-2021, 10:11 AM
Imo a back up striker that would be suitable to cover long term for an injured Nisbet would require a fee. Would we be happy paying St Johnston £100,000 to sign Chris Kane for example, and would Kane come to us, to be told you won’t be playing if Nisbet, Doidge, Scott and Boyle are all fit?

Purely an example, but we have options in forward areas. Murphy and McKay on the Left, Nisbet, Gullane and Scott through the middle, Scott and Boyle on the right.

What’s the panic all about?

PH91
01-09-2021, 10:15 AM
Despite lots of posts noting aberdeen's squad depth, we have the same number of senior players.

We have kept all our big hitters.

First choice midfield looks as strong as it has been for years following the arrival of jdh and form of magennis.

We have brought in a 4th centre half which we needed. Only time will tell whether he will push for a starting spot but seems highly rated.

Although mcginn's form has dropped we have cadden back in training (he is as much a right back as a midfielder) and it doesn't make sense to bring in a third choice right back. I'm glad to see the days of signing garbage like nelom, mavrias and rherras to contribute little to nothing are gone.

The only negative is doidge being injured and leaving us a bit short up front for 3 months. I imagine the budget for anyone coming in would be limited, though, and they would essentially be third choice behind nisbet/scott and drop to fifth choice in january when doidge is back and mueller comes in (another good bit of business done this window). You could argue they would be behind boyle too. It might be that we just couldn't get anyone in that we think worthwhile on the budget we have. Ross's comments on grigg in the sunderland doc spring to mind.

In terms of mcgrath, the fact the deal involved allan and wright suggests it wasn't a position we were after but just an opportunity that unexpectedly arose. It's a pity it never went through but doesn't seem like we had the chance to do the deal earlier. The player swap also adds weight to the idea there isn't much budget left.

In any case, it's another good window under Ross where the squad seems stronger and more balanced when it shut than when it opened.

HFC93
01-09-2021, 10:15 AM
I think we're on pretty good shape after the window. We haven't lost any key players other than Marciano. The fact we've held on to Nisbet, Doig and Boyle is very unlike Hibs. We've also strengthened our midfield. Defence and Doidge's injury are a concern.

easty
01-09-2021, 10:17 AM
Brandon Barker told by Rangers that he can find a new club. Its a no from me but ??

He wasn't released, so we can't sign him. If he's still leaving them it's to a country where the window hasn't slammed shut yet.

greenlex
01-09-2021, 10:17 AM
Ross clearly doesn’t like Gullan so what you or I think of him is neither here nor there.

That’s the point really.
It could of course be argued that if better than Gullan was available at the right price and Ross wanted that it would have happened so like me what you think is also neither here nor there.

GloryGlory
01-09-2021, 10:24 AM
Ross clearly doesn’t like Gullan so what you or I think of him is neither here nor there.

That’s the point really.

Or maybe he's just not showing enough in training?

MacBean
01-09-2021, 10:27 AM
He wasn't released, so we can't sign him. If he's still leaving them it's to a country where the window hasn't slammed shut yet.
if he finds a club they can (and most likely will) release him so he can move as a free transfer

Peevemor
01-09-2021, 10:28 AM
if he finds a club they can (and most likely will) release him so he can move as a free transferHe still can't play for anyone until the next window.

greenlex
01-09-2021, 10:28 AM
if he finds a club they can (and most likely will) release him so he can move as a free transfer

Sure he would needed to have been released pre deadline to do that. It’s a no from me in any case.

GloryGlory
01-09-2021, 10:29 AM
https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2021/09/01/media-watch--chelsea-interested-in-scottish-left-back--bbc-pundi?cardIndex=0-1

Chelsea now supposedly looking at Doig!

Peevemor
01-09-2021, 10:30 AM
https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2021/09/01/media-watch--chelsea-interested-in-scottish-left-back--bbc-pundi?cardIndex=0-1

Chelsea now supposedly looking at Doig!Chelsea Doig Show?

FilipinoHibs
01-09-2021, 10:31 AM
Signed JDH who is improvement on Gogic.
Young Daniel Mackay, and James Scott coming in.

More importantly retained Porteous, Nisbet, Doig and Boyle. Porteous and Nisbet in contract talks. Putting us in a healthy position.

Ideally a striker would have been good but with Boyle , Nisbet and Gullan as cover I think we can survive until December. Also lots of attacking midfielders to play in behind.

December will see Doidge back and January the arrival of Mueller.

All in all we haven’t been weakened , maybe couple positions could have done with 1 more but I’d say pretty good window. 8/10 for me

Spot on. The bed Wetters will carry on unless we beat Hearts at Tynie in the next game. Here's hoping we shut them up. They are the same ones who think the current LG, Allan, Cummings are the same as the old ones at their peak for Hibs.

GloryGlory
01-09-2021, 10:32 AM
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/jamie-mcgrath-hibs-transfer-plus-21451812

A bit in here suggesting that the Tait deal maybe didn't go through on time?

madhatter
01-09-2021, 10:37 AM
Spot on. The bed Wetters will carry on unless we beat Hearts at Tynie in the next game. Here's hoping we shut them up. They are the same ones who think the current LG, Allan, Cummings are the same as the old ones at their peak for Hibs.

OK happy clapper.

Surely beating Hearts is about getting one over on the Jambos rather than fellow Hibs fans?

Is your post adding to the toxicity or is it only those that criticise Hibs that contribute to the concoction?

04Sauzee
01-09-2021, 10:39 AM
if he finds a club they can (and most likely will) release him so he can move as a free transfer

He can and he can register I believe but still won't be able to play for anyone until the new window opens. Unless he was freed last night then he's stuck with the stickies.

Brightside
01-09-2021, 10:40 AM
OK happy clapper.

Surely beating Hearts is about getting one over on the Jambos rather than fellow Hibs fans?

Is your post adding to the toxicity or is it only those that criticise Hibs that contribute to the concoction?

Tbf if we don’t beat hearts it will be melt down. If we do beat them those that usually meltdown will have very little to say.

cabbageandribs1875
01-09-2021, 10:40 AM
Chelsea Doig Show?


someone neds to tell that site his contract is 2025 not 2023

just in case they think we are desperate to cash in :)

cabbageandribs1875
01-09-2021, 10:41 AM
Spot on. The bed Wetters will carry on unless we beat Hearts at Tynie in the next game. Here's hoping we shut them up. They are the same ones who think the current LG, Allan, Cummings are the same as the old ones at their peak for Hibs.



poor

madhatter
01-09-2021, 10:41 AM
Tbf if we don’t beat hearts it will be melt down. If we do beat them those that usually meltdown will have very little to say.

Surely that's pretty much always the case? Here, on social media platforms or in the pub.

Do people genuinely think losing to Hearts is any different than normal? We want to beat them. People will be unhappy if we don't.

easty
01-09-2021, 10:43 AM
He can and he can register I believe but still won't be able to play for anyone until the new window opens. Unless he was freed last night then he's stuck with the stickies.

There are a few countries where the window is still open (Turkey for example) so he might still get a move to be playing soon.

Hibs90
01-09-2021, 10:44 AM
Tbf if we don’t beat hearts it will be melt down. If we do beat them those that usually meltdown will have very little to say.

Not true.

04Sauzee
01-09-2021, 10:46 AM
There are a few countries where the window is still open (Turkey for example) so he might still get a move to be playing soon.

Sorry you are correct, the Russian market is open as well. Hopefully Nisbet and Porteous don't fancy moves to teams in those countries.

Brightside
01-09-2021, 10:47 AM
Surely that's pretty much always the case? Here, on social media platforms or in the pub.

Do people genuinely think losing to Hearts is any different than normal? We want to beat them. People will be unhappy if we don't.

Just another 3pts to me. 😂

Mr. Wonderful
01-09-2021, 10:47 AM
Not true.

Yes it is. Hearts has become a must win game amongst a very restless support.

A win might see the side finally get the backing they deserve so far this season. Anything else and it'll be much more of the same.

JohnM1875
01-09-2021, 10:49 AM
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/jamie-mcgrath-hibs-transfer-plus-21451812

A bit in here suggesting that the Tait deal maybe didn't go through on time?

That's really bad if we missed out on Tait as well due to time.

It's not a surprise that the window closed at midnight!

Northernhibee
01-09-2021, 10:50 AM
poor

Not really.

Keyser Sauzee
01-09-2021, 10:52 AM
Did we sign Tait??

Hibs90
01-09-2021, 10:53 AM
Yes it is. Hearts has become a must win game amongst a very restless support.

A win might see the side finally get the backing they deserve so far this season. Anything else and it'll be much more of the same.

Could you blame folk?

Caversham Green
01-09-2021, 10:54 AM
I think the staff at Hibs and St Mirren deserve a shout here.

They've agreed a transfer deal, Hibs have agreed terms with McGrath and the two clubs have agreed loan terms for Allan and Wright, they've then got all three players (plus their agents) to confirm their agreements for the transfer and then put together the necessary paperwork -all between 11.00 and 12.00 at night.

That sort of work can often take weeks to complete and they must be devastated that it was all for nothing in the end. Still excellent work by both clubs IMO.

Mr. Wonderful
01-09-2021, 10:58 AM
Could you blame folk?

Hibs have been in far worse places than top of the league and unbeaten going into September. So probably, yes.

Jones28
01-09-2021, 11:00 AM
Could you blame folk?

Yes. We’re top of the league and have clearly strengthened key areas.

Bobby's Cinema
01-09-2021, 11:00 AM
We have naturally always struggled to replace big players leaving for big fees so the importance of retaining all our best players should not be underestimated. Yea we all want excitement of new faces but I'd rather be where we are now than Boyle and Doig away with a Norwegian left back in and Mcgrath for instance. Stability is one thing team's who consistently qualify for europe and stay up there have always had.

Seems a calculated gamble that James Scott is enough to see us through to Jan where Doidge and Mueller come into the fold so not ideal and we will be judged on that decision.

loanheadhibby
01-09-2021, 11:02 AM
I think the staff at Hibs and St Mirren deserve a shout here.

They've agreed a transfer deal, Hibs have agreed terms with McGrath and the two clubs have agreed loan terms for Allan and Wright, they've then got all three players (plus their agents) to confirm their agreements for the transfer and then put together the necessary paperwork -all between 11.00 and 12.00 at night.

That sort of work can often take weeks to complete and they must be devastated that it was all for nothing in the end. Still excellent work by both clubs IMO.

Why was it left so late? Is this the time the Boro deal for McGrath fell thru? So effectively, Boro are to blame for dragging their heels?

I wonder if Hibs enquired during the window only to be told he was off to Boro?

Smartie
01-09-2021, 11:02 AM
Sorry you are correct, the Russian market is open as well. Hopefully Nisbet and Porteous don't fancy moves to teams in those countries.

I'm pretty sure Nisbet's agent was mouthing off about Russian team being in for him earlier this window, and that they were moves that "interested" Kevin.

Smartie
01-09-2021, 11:03 AM
I think the staff at Hibs and St Mirren deserve a shout here.

They've agreed a transfer deal, Hibs have agreed terms with McGrath and the two clubs have agreed loan terms for Allan and Wright, they've then got all three players (plus their agents) to confirm their agreements for the transfer and then put together the necessary paperwork -all between 11.00 and 12.00 at night.

That sort of work can often take weeks to complete and they must be devastated that it was all for nothing in the end. Still excellent work by both clubs IMO.

"The operation was a success but the patient died" sort of thing?

BegbieHSC
01-09-2021, 11:06 AM
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/jamie-mcgrath-hibs-transfer-plus-21451812

A bit in here suggesting that the Tait deal maybe didn't go through on time?

Deary me,

Did someone at admin not drink enough coffee and fall asleep at their desk for the transfer deadline day night shift?

Since452
01-09-2021, 11:07 AM
I think the staff at Hibs and St Mirren deserve a shout here.

They've agreed a transfer deal, Hibs have agreed terms with McGrath and the two clubs have agreed loan terms for Allan and Wright, they've then got all three players (plus their agents) to confirm their agreements for the transfer and then put together the necessary paperwork -all between 11.00 and 12.00 at night.

That sort of work can often take weeks to complete and they must be devastated that it was all for nothing in the end. Still excellent work by both clubs IMO.

Agreed. There should be some sort of discretion whether a deal is allowed to go past midnight. If it's 99.9% done there should be a 10/15 minute window instead of wasting everyone's time.

Crab apple
01-09-2021, 11:09 AM
Are we likely to go back in for McGrath and sign him on a pre contract in January? 17 goals last year (many from the penalty spot) and the Buddies player of the year. Presumably there will be others interested then too.

FilipinoHibs
01-09-2021, 11:10 AM
OK happy clapper.

Surely beating Hearts is about getting one over on the Jambos rather than fellow Hibs fans?

Is your post adding to the toxicity or is it only those that criticise Hibs that contribute to the concoction?

It will kill the toxicity for a few days. Which must be welcomed.

FilipinoHibs
01-09-2021, 11:11 AM
I'm pretty sure Nisbet's agent was mouthing off about Russian team being in for him earlier this window, and that they were moves that "interested" Kevin.

As if you would leave his recently bereaved family for Russia.

Since452
01-09-2021, 11:12 AM
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/jamie-mcgrath-hibs-transfer-plus-21451812

A bit in here suggesting that the Tait deal maybe didn't go through on time?

Looks like it's saying it can still be completed. Maybe why we haven't announced our business for the window yet.

Caversham Green
01-09-2021, 11:13 AM
Why was it left so late? Is this the time the Boro deal for McGrath fell thru? So effectively, Boro are to blame for dragging their heels?

I wonder if Hibs enquired during the window only to be told he was off to Boro?

I suspect there had been some discussion between the clubs prior to Boro's interest and it was revived when Boro pulled out.


"The operation was a success but the patient died" sort of thing?

Not quite, more the operation was a success but the patient died due to his oxygen supply being cut by the authorities during recovery.

Smartie
01-09-2021, 11:14 AM
As if you would leave his recently bereaved family for Russia.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/kevin-nisbet-agent-quoted-as-saying-two-russian-clubs-seeking-to-sign-hibs-striker-3296113

This didn't sound like he was dismissing it out of hand.

Early July.

TBH, given this was the sort of chat that was going on at that stage, it's a minor miracle he's still with us.

WhileTheChief..
01-09-2021, 11:15 AM
OK happy clapper.

Surely beating Hearts is about getting one over on the Jambos rather than fellow Hibs fans?

Is your post adding to the toxicity or is it only those that criticise Hibs that contribute to the concoction?

Well said.

This thread has filled up with folk wanting to have a pop at other Hibs fans simply because some of us expected more in the transfer window.

No need really. Nobody is attacking the club or slating anyone but once again we've got the bed wetter / happy clapper guff getting trotted out.

EdinburghHibern
01-09-2021, 11:15 AM
I think the staff at Hibs and St Mirren deserve a shout here.

They've agreed a transfer deal, Hibs have agreed terms with McGrath and the two clubs have agreed loan terms for Allan and Wright, they've then got all three players (plus their agents) to confirm their agreements for the transfer and then put together the necessary paperwork -all between 11.00 and 12.00 at night.

That sort of work can often take weeks to complete and they must be devastated that it was all for nothing in the end. Still excellent work by both clubs IMO.

Don't think so,the deal didn't get done.

Caversham Green
01-09-2021, 11:16 AM
Don't think so,the deal didn't get done.

Through no fault of theirs. Fine margins and all that.

Unseen work
01-09-2021, 11:17 AM
Deary me.

If you say we’re disappointed on here about not getting another striker (something Ross himself said) people are taking it as if you’re saying the squad isn’t good enough and the rest of the business has been terrible.

I’m delighted we’ve kept our good players and added a bit more quality but another striker or attacking option was a must for me.

Given Nisbet is currently injured and missing internationals we now only have Scott and Gullan up top, both of whom aren’t out and out strikers

WhileTheChief..
01-09-2021, 11:23 AM
I think the staff at Hibs and St Mirren deserve a shout here.

They've agreed a transfer deal, Hibs have agreed terms with McGrath and the two clubs have agreed loan terms for Allan and Wright, they've then got all three players (plus their agents) to confirm their agreements for the transfer and then put together the necessary paperwork -all between 11.00 and 12.00 at night.

That sort of work can often take weeks to complete and they must be devastated that it was all for nothing in the end. Still excellent work by both clubs IMO.


I wonder if JR feels the same? Doubt it.

He wanted players in, not just to keep what we had.

I don't think a back up goalie and 1 new defender was all that JR had in mind, in fact we know it's not because we tried for others but didn't get them.

Not sure we can call it a successful transfer window when we didn't sign the players we wanted!

SHODAN
01-09-2021, 11:25 AM
Looks like it's saying it can still be completed. Maybe why we haven't announced our business for the window yet.

Yeah, I'm leaving the thread open in case it does go through.

Just_Jimmy
01-09-2021, 11:26 AM
as I've said before, I hate the transfer window. I hate how clubs can't just buy or sell during the season and how it limits clubs. I actually think it impacts smaller budget clubs more than bigger budget clubs.

I also really dislike how a club can have a solid transfer window without it being spectacular and it's all forgotten as soon as a superstar isn't produced on the final day.

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loanheadhibby
01-09-2021, 11:26 AM
I suspect there had been some discussion between the clubs prior to Boro's interest and it was revived when Boro pulled out.



Not quite, more the operation was a success but the patient died due to his oxygen supply being cut by the authorities during recovery.

I kind of suspected myself that it was only after Boro pulled out that it was a possibility. Maybe the laddie wanted to go and play in England. Any ideas why Boro pulled out? Surely can’t be down to wages?

Brightside
01-09-2021, 11:31 AM
Deary me.

If you say we’re disappointed on here about not getting another striker (something Ross himself said) people are taking it as if you’re saying the squad isn’t good enough and the rest of the business has been terrible.

I’m delighted we’ve kept our good players and added a bit more quality but another striker or attacking option was a must for me.

Given Nisbet is currently injured and missing internationals we now only have Scott and Gullan up top, both of whom aren’t out and out strikers

Nisbet is only missing one game.

madhatter
01-09-2021, 11:35 AM
Just another 3pts to me. 😂

Dont understand this really, surely you want to win then?

If you aren't as hyped at beating Hearts fair enough but ridiculing fans who do get hyped seems a bit strange since you want 3pts like any other game. Winning is winning to you regardless of opposition but nevertheless the outcome you are looking for is a win...

We're really debating how annoyed you get by a loss or a draw compared to other fans. Pointless really as everyone is different.

I'd prefer our players to be really up for the derbies as Hearts are ready and willing to make it a battle. They know that's their route to victory and we need to combat that. We rarely do sadly. Small league means we likely need to have a better derby record to establish Hibs as "best of the rest".

degenerated
01-09-2021, 11:39 AM
I wonder if JR feels the same? Doubt it.

He wanted players in, not just to keep what we had.

I don't think a back up goalie and 1 new defender was all that JR had in mind, in fact we know it's not because we tried for others but didn't get them.

Not sure we can call it a successful transfer window when we didn't sign the players we wanted!What about Doyle-Hayes, Mackay and James Scott. Did we not sign them in the transfer window?

Is It On....
01-09-2021, 11:39 AM
Just another 3pts to me. 😂

Alex Miller used to say that 🙄.

Caversham Green
01-09-2021, 11:41 AM
I wonder if JR feels the same? Doubt it.

He wanted players in, not just to keep what we had.

I don't think a back up goalie and 1 new defender was all that JR had in mind, in fact we know it's not because we tried for others but didn't get them.

Not sure we can call it a successful transfer window when we didn't sign the players we wanted!

I think Jack Ross will be grateful for the effort the staff put in on this particular transfer bid and disappointed for himself and for them that it didn't come off. Like you, I don't know how he feels about other aspects of the transfer window.

loanheadhibby
01-09-2021, 11:45 AM
as I've said before, I hate the transfer window. I hate how clubs can't just buy or sell during the season and how it limits clubs. I actually think it impacts smaller budget clubs more than bigger budget clubs.

I also really dislike how a club can have a solid transfer window without it being spectacular and it's all forgotten as soon as a superstar isn't produced on the final day.

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I agree. Not a big fan of transfer window. It's OK for the Elite Leagues clubs who carry big squads and can afford to have a few players out injured at the time.

Surely it must breach a rule for restriction of trade or something? Take Scott Allan as an example. Knows his manager does not fancy him, probably won't get much action over next 4 months but does not have the opportunity to find another employer?

If I don't like my job, I can easily move.

WhileTheChief..
01-09-2021, 11:47 AM
What about Doyle-Hayes, Mackay and James Scott. Did we not sign them in the transfer window?

Argumentative smart ass post for no reason, we all know these players signed for us ffs.

JR has been quoted numerous times that he wanted more in. What do you think we were trying to do between 11 - 12 last night?

madhatter
01-09-2021, 11:47 AM
It will kill the toxicity for a few days. Which must be welcomed.

Would it? You've just posted about shutting up fellow fans.

You may not but those in the positivity camp will likely post on here with the intent to celebrate the win with "that'll shut them up" and "where are the bed wetters?".

You'll view my posts as toxic as I'm largely negative about Hibs on here. In truth, I enjoy Hibs good times with friends and family rather than post on here. I have a habit of coming on here to share my views when it things go poorly. Not solely with the intent to be negative but its usually met with ridicule and I fight my corner as others do. Maybe a poor habit but nevertheless, don't think calling fellow fans "bed wetters" is anything other than toxic.

Toxicity will always exist online. You may just prefer the flavour at that point in time.

allmodcons
01-09-2021, 11:51 AM
Dont understand this really, surely you want to win then? If you aren't as hyped at beating Hearts fair enough but ridiculing fans who do get hyped seems a bit strange since you want 3pts like any other game. Winning is winning to you regardless of opposition but nevertheless the outcome you are looking for is a win...We're really debating how annoyed you get by a loss or a draw compared to other fans. Pointless really as everyone is different.I'd prefer our players to be really up for the derbies as Hearts are ready and willing to make it a battle. They know that's their route to victory and we need to combat that. We rarely do sadly. Small league means we likely need to have a better derby record to establish Hibs as "best of the rest".

I'm not sure I buy in to your narrative and stats say otherwise too.Last 20 derbies we've won 7 they've won 6 and there has been 6 draws. Bams are no more up for it than us.

degenerated
01-09-2021, 11:56 AM
Argumentative smart ass post for no reason, we all know these players signed for us ffs.

JR has been quoted numerous times that he wanted more in. What do you think we were trying to do between 11 - 12 last night?No it's not, your just ignoring the fact that we have signed a midfielder who has been a revelation, a Scottish under 21 international winger, a centre forward on loan that cost his team over a million, an England under 21 international centre half. And on top of that we've kept Nisbet, Doig and Newall where rumours suggested we wouldn't and signed an extended deal with our top performing player and removed the buy out clause in his contract.

What's not good about that for a transfer window?

dchibs
01-09-2021, 11:56 AM
I'm not sure I buy in to your narrative and stats say otherwise too.Last 20 derbies we've won 7 they've won 6 and there has been 6 draws. Bams are no more up for it than us.

Did one of the games get abandoned?

easty
01-09-2021, 12:03 PM
as I've said before, I hate the transfer window. I hate how clubs can't just buy or sell during the season and how it limits clubs. I actually think it impacts smaller budget clubs more than bigger budget clubs.

I also really dislike how a club can have a solid transfer window without it being spectacular and it's all forgotten as soon as a superstar isn't produced on the final day.

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I agree. Not a big fan of transfer window. It's OK for the Elite Leagues clubs who carry big squads and can afford to have a few players out injured at the time.

Surely it must breach a rule for restriction of trade or something? Take Scott Allan as an example. Knows his manager does not fancy him, probably won't get much action over next 4 months but does not have the opportunity to find another employer?

If I don't like my job, I can easily move.

Scrapping the transfer window would make things much better for the "elite" clubs. They're the ones with the money to go strengthen throughout the season, or to go steal players who're doing well from the smaller teams, or just steal players from any smaller team who's getting a little too close by the end of the season.

One Day Soon
01-09-2021, 12:06 PM
OK happy clapper.

Surely beating Hearts is about getting one over on the Jambos rather than fellow Hibs fans?

Is your post adding to the toxicity or is it only those that criticise Hibs that contribute to the concoction?


Indeed. And nice too that everyone fits into the same convenient categories - anyone who gets upset if we lose to Hearts automatically also thinks that Griffiths, Allan and Cummings are the same players they once were? Bizarre.

Iain G
01-09-2021, 12:07 PM
Would it? You've just posted about shutting up fellow fans.

You may not but those in the positivity camp will likely post on here with the intent to celebrate the win with "that'll shut them up" and "where are the bed wetters?".

You'll view my posts as toxic as I'm largely negative about Hibs on here. In truth, I enjoy Hibs good times with friends and family rather than post on here. I have a habit of coming on here to share my views when it things go poorly. Not solely with the intent to be negative but its usually met with ridicule and I fight my corner as others do. Maybe a poor habit but nevertheless, don't think calling fellow fans "bed wetters" is anything other than toxic.

Toxicity will always exist online. You may just prefer the flavour at that point in time.

So you only come here to whinge, moan and be miserable then? :wink::greengrin

One Day Soon
01-09-2021, 12:09 PM
"The operation was a success but the patient died" sort of thing?

:tee hee:

madhatter
01-09-2021, 12:13 PM
So you only come here to whinge, moan and be miserable then? :wink::greengrin

No. I come on sometimes to analyse defeats and have a whine about a player or two. No personal jibes or anything and often get personal jibes thrown my way.

Tbh almost everything I post now is seen as negative. Think it's the problem with text based communication and probably my mundane use of English. Everything is literal and everybody is insulted.

King Cosell
01-09-2021, 12:27 PM
Indeed. And nice too that everyone fits into the same convenient categories - anyone who gets upset if we lose to Hearts automatically also thinks that Griffiths, Allan and Cummings are the same players they once were? Bizzare.

We'll all be upset if we lose to Hearts, and we're all free to criticize, but we won't all get angry and start abusing players/management staff online. Those people have got issues, and those issues have got nothing to do with football. I despise them.

FilipinoHibs
01-09-2021, 12:27 PM
Would it? You've just posted about shutting up fellow fans.

You may not but those in the positivity camp will likely post on here with the intent to celebrate the win with "that'll shut them up" and "where are the bed wetters?".

You'll view my posts as toxic as I'm largely negative about Hibs on here. In truth, I enjoy Hibs good times with friends and family rather than post on here. I have a habit of coming on here to share my views when it things go poorly. Not solely with the intent to be negative but its usually met with ridicule and I fight my corner as others do. Maybe a poor habit but nevertheless, don't think calling fellow fans "bed wetters" is anything other than toxic.

Toxicity will always exist online. You may just prefer the flavour at that point in time.

Some fans expect too much and only criticise when they don't get what they want. Everything gets completely out of perspective. Why many of us don't go on here when things are not perfect because we know there will be people appear from nowhere with their outlandish views that depresses most fans.

Hamish
01-09-2021, 12:30 PM
Fife Today newspaper confirming Dylan Tait signed a 4 year deal for an undisclosed sum, with the expectation of being loaned back till January, though this has not been confirmed.

Iggy Pope
01-09-2021, 12:31 PM
Yeah, I'm leaving the thread open in case it does go through.

Be sure and start the January one now.

Iggy Pope
01-09-2021, 12:34 PM
Through no fault of theirs. Fine margins and all that.

Not what is being suggested around town by the way.....

One Day Soon
01-09-2021, 12:35 PM
Through no fault of theirs. Fine margins and all that.

:cool2:

007
01-09-2021, 12:35 PM
Deary me.

If you say we’re disappointed on here about not getting another striker (something Ross himself said) people are taking it as if you’re saying the squad isn’t good enough and the rest of the business has been terrible.

I’m delighted we’ve kept our good players and added a bit more quality but another striker or attacking option was a must for me.

Given Nisbet is currently injured and missing internationals we now only have Scott and Gullan up top, both of whom aren’t out and out strikers

Saying 'disappointed' is fine but people calling it a shambles are likely to be interpreted as aiming criticism at the club/recruitment team and therefore others disagree. Maybe that's why several use terms like 'shambles' rather than 'disappointed', to provoke a reaction.

SHODAN
01-09-2021, 12:35 PM
Be sure and start the January one now.

I'll give it a couple weeks.

Flyman
01-09-2021, 12:43 PM
Alex Miller used to say that 🙄.
With Alex Miller, it was usually just 1 point.

One Day Soon
01-09-2021, 12:43 PM
We'll all be upset if we lose to Hearts, and we're all free to criticize, but we won't all get angry and start abusing players/management staff online. Those people have got issues, and those issues have got nothing to do with football. I despise them.


Possibly pity would be more appropriate than despise but whatever. My point was that being unhappy about losing to Hearts doesn't automatically Venn diagram you into another grouping which apparently has irrational views on Griffiths, Allan etc. It's almost like perhaps there are more categories of Hibs fans than just Happy Clappers and Bedwetters.

One Day Soon
01-09-2021, 12:44 PM
Not what is being suggested around town by the way.....

So what is being suggested around town?

JimmyJazz1875
01-09-2021, 12:46 PM
Some fans expect too much and only criticise when they don't get what they want. Everything gets completely out of perspective. Why many of us don't go on here when things are not perfect because we know there will be people appear from nowhere with their outlandish views that depresses most fans.

This.

I always go into transfer deadline day expecting there to be a bit of moaning from folk. It went a bit overboard for my taste yesterday. Some suggesting that Hibs recruitment team were, for want of a better phrase, sleeping on the job. Pretty unfair accusation, IMO.
In the last forty years, I can't think of many better teams we have had than this current one.

Northernhibee
01-09-2021, 12:48 PM
I’m disappointed that the club are being a bit of stick from some quarters re: McGrath. At literally the last hour they’ve tried to hijack a deal for a very talented player that had broken down and it looks as if we were fingertips away from it happening.

They were switched on, ambitious and were willing to look a bit silly for the potential reward of it coming off, and if you’ve never looked a little silly in life then you’ve not tried hard enough.

I’m pleased we were alert enough to try to capitalise on it.

Just_Jimmy
01-09-2021, 12:49 PM
Scrapping the transfer window would make things much better for the "elite" clubs. They're the ones with the money to go strengthen throughout the season, or to go steal players who're doing well from the smaller teams, or just steal players from any smaller team who's getting a little too close by the end of the season.it's not "stealing" players if the buying club offers money that the selling club finds and acceptable amount and agrees to the sale. no limit also allows the selling club to source a replacement without necessarily panicking due to deadlines.

the way of football is there will always be bigger richer clubs and smaller poorer clubs, we'll lose players but we also cherry pick from other clubs. st mirren fans must hate us at the moment however it's working for us so we don't care.

I'm of the opinion that the window system needs binned asap. I accept not everyone (probably not the majority) will agree.

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Unseen work
01-09-2021, 12:52 PM
Why does everyone think it was the last hour only for McGrath?

The Middlesbrough owner pulled the plug on the move so they could sign someone else, surely he never gone this in the last minute of the English window?

Hibs would have known it was possible before 11.

Hibs90
01-09-2021, 12:52 PM
Some fans expect too much and only criticise when they don't get what they want. Everything gets completely out of perspective. Why many of us don't go on here when things are not perfect because we know there will be people appear from nowhere with their outlandish views that depresses most fans.

Just like your outlandish view on Scott Allan :aok:

bingo70
01-09-2021, 12:53 PM
I’m disappointed that the club are being a bit of stick from some quarters re: McGrath. At literally the last hour they’ve tried to hijack a deal for a very talented player that had broken down and it looks as if we were fingertips away from it happening.

They were switched on, ambitious and were willing to look a bit silly for the potential reward of it coming off, and if you’ve never looked a little silly in life then you’ve not tried hard enough.

I’m pleased we were alert enough to try to capitalise on it.

If we had got the forward in we needed then I think people might be a bit more forgiving about that one falling through.

We’ve left ourselves so short up front though and it’s been clear for ages we needed another forward so people are just pissed off.

blackpoolhibs
01-09-2021, 12:54 PM
31 year old goalie

I think he can also play up front too.

Hibees1973
01-09-2021, 12:55 PM
Most people would tend to criticise clubs who scramble around at the last minute trying to secure signings. I understand that McGrath may have become available at a late stage but Hibs failed to secure him.

So what we are left with is Allan & Wright in the squad who we were happy to flog elsewhere. What is their state of mind going to be, particularly Allan who I still view as an asset at Hibs. Albeit, Allan seems to be a diminished asset as the jury is still out regarding his fitness and who I feel Ross does not regard as a first eleven pick.

007
01-09-2021, 12:57 PM
Why does everyone think it was the last hour only for McGrath?

The Middlesbrough owner pulled the plug on the move so they could sign someone else, surely he never gone this in the last minute of the English window?

Hibs would have known it was possible before 11.

Does it really matter whether it was the last hour or a bit longer? You made a point above about how people should be allowed to say they are disappointed. What point are you now trying to make?

BS44
01-09-2021, 12:57 PM
Why does everyone think it was the last hour only for McGrath?

The Middlesbrough owner pulled the plug on the move so they could sign someone else, surely he never gone this in the last minute of the English window?

Hibs would have known it was possible before 11.

Hibs would only get to know when the agent called them to let them know it was game on. The agent would only get toknow when the English club were sure they had secured the better option. So you're right, maybe Hibs found out about at about half ten instead.

JimBHibees
01-09-2021, 12:57 PM
Nisbet is only missing one game.

Hope that is the case.

blackpoolhibs
01-09-2021, 12:59 PM
Why does everyone think it was the last hour only for McGrath?

The Middlesbrough owner pulled the plug on the move so they could sign someone else, surely he never gone this in the last minute of the English window?

Hibs would have known it was possible before 11.

We would have had to get St Mirrens approval to talk to the player after agreeing with them and 2 of our players that they would be part of the deal, them plus money i'd imagine would take longer than an hour to put together?

keep the faith
01-09-2021, 01:00 PM
Just like your outlandish view on Scott Allan :aok:

You beat me to it.

I had to double check it was the same guy posting!!

jeffers
01-09-2021, 01:02 PM
Most people would tend to criticise clubs who scramble around at the last minute trying to secure signings. I understand that McGrath may have become available at a late stage but Hibs failed to secure him.

So what we are left with is Allan & Wright in the squad who we were happy to flog elsewhere. What is their state of mind going to be, particularly Allan who I still view as an asset at Hibs. Albeit, Allan seems to be a diminished asset as the jury is still out regarding his fitness and who I feel Ross does not regard as a first eleven pick.

I’ll say it again but I don’t think it would have come as any surprise to Scott Allan. Ross may be telling him otherwise but he knows he’s not going to get any proper game time.

BILLYHIBS
01-09-2021, 01:02 PM
I think he can also play up front too.
Gonna need him by all accounts :greengrin

degenerated
01-09-2021, 01:04 PM
If we had got the forward in we needed then I think people might be a bit more forgiving about that one falling through.

We’ve left ourselves so short up front though and it’s been clear for ages we needed another forward so people are just pissed off.The same people would have been pissed off regardless, they'd have just found something else to be pissed off about.

blackpoolhibs
01-09-2021, 01:12 PM
I’d have rather that recruitment got this sorted ages ago instead of faffing around if you want to call it that. We’ve had plenty time and knew for over a year another striker was needed and it looks like we got a bit desperate with last nights failed attempt.

I don’t see Gullan or Scott for that matter, scoring anywhere near the amount of goals required to replace Nisbets goals in the event of an injury or whatever. if he manages to stay fit and play every week between now and Jan then we might be ok.

I'd hate to have been in your house at xmas, when you wanted an action man but opened up a GI Joe, the tears and snotters would have been awful.

PatHead
01-09-2021, 01:13 PM
We would have had to get St Mirrens approval to talk to the player after agreeing with them and 2 of our players that they would be part of the deal, them plus money i'd imagine would take longer than an hour to put together?

Am I right in thinking McGrath is away with Ireland which would be an added complication.

Heisenberg
01-09-2021, 01:13 PM
Fife Today newspaper confirming Dylan Tait signed a 4 year deal for an undisclosed sum, with the expectation of being loaned back till January, though this has not been confirmed.

Just saw that, seems like it definitely went through going by that report. Rovers fans far from happy.

madhatter
01-09-2021, 01:13 PM
Some fans expect too much and only criticise when they don't get what they want. Everything gets completely out of perspective. Why many of us don't go on here when things are not perfect because we know there will be people appear from nowhere with their outlandish views that depresses most fans.

Outlandish views about bed wetters depresses me. You see my point?

jeffers
01-09-2021, 01:15 PM
Outlandish views about bed wetters depresses me. You see my point?

:agree: Bed wetters is chronic patter.

Since452
01-09-2021, 01:16 PM
Saying 'disappointed' is fine but people calling it a shambles are likely to be interpreted as aiming criticism at the club/recruitment team and therefore others disagree. Maybe that's why several use terms like 'shambles' rather than 'disappointed', to provoke a reaction.

Some of the stuff on Twitter last night and today has been nothing short of embarrassing. After blocking a load of folk i decided it wasn't worth it and just blocked myself. Absolute cesspit of a platform. Are people really that livid about a decent transfer window? Someone was demanding Mathie resigned earlier. Maybe social media isn't for me, can't be arsed with it.

blackpoolhibs
01-09-2021, 01:19 PM
Am I right in thinking McGrath is away with Ireland which would be an added complication.
:agree: Sometimes things just dont happen, however hard you try.

It's the same with not bringing in another striker, we have 2 that are fit, along with Gullan. We also have Boyle and McKay who can play there should we have another 2 injuries to Scott and Nisbet, i wonder how many players some folk think we can afford?

Callum_62
01-09-2021, 01:20 PM
Some of the stuff on Twitter last night and today has been nothing short of embarrassing. After blocking a load of folk i decided it wasn't worth it and just blocked myself. Absolute cesspit of a platform. Are people really that livid about a decent transfer window? Someone was demanding Mathie resigned earlier. Maybe social media isn't for me, can't be arsed with it.It honestly is a shambles (!)

Twitter is beyond a shambles actually

Folk greetin about absolutely everything

I had to come off it for a while as its just full of aboslute numpties

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jeffers
01-09-2021, 01:31 PM
:agree: Sometimes things just dont happen, however hard you try.

It's the same with not bringing in another striker, we have 2 that are fit, along with Gullan. We also have Boyle and McKay who can play there should we have another 2 injuries to Scott and Nisbet, i wonder how many players some folk think we can afford?

Some criticism is valid though. Nothing to do with our opinion, our own manager said he wanted to bring in more and move on players who wouldn’t figure. Yet until very late on in the transfer window it didn’t appear we had anything in the pipeline. I’m not advocating signing players just for the sake of it but we surely have a list of players we are interested in - I doubt many teams sign their first choices all the time.

Ross’ preference appears to be to play two strikers where possible. We only have one main striker currently available, the others would be asked to fulfil a role that isn’t natural for them.

jacomo
01-09-2021, 01:32 PM
It will kill the toxicity for a few days. Which must be welcomed.


I think stirring the pot is almost as bad as wetting the bed.

Let’s all resolve to criticise fellow Hibs fans a little less. If some folk get a little, er, emotional after a setback, let it be.

Hibs.net is not just a place for witty, intelligent discourse. Sometimes it’s just about letting off steam.

The folk trawling the match day threads searching out anyone acting like a bit of a balloon are like those folk who watch a film on tv that carries a warning for adult themes and bad language, then write to complain about the filth being broadcast into their home.

SaulGoodman
01-09-2021, 01:34 PM
Tait confirmed

GloryGlory
01-09-2021, 01:34 PM
https://twitter.com/HibernianFC

hibbyfraelibby
01-09-2021, 01:35 PM
Fife Today newspaper confirming Dylan Tait signed a 4 year deal for an undisclosed sum, with the expectation of being loaned back till January, though this has not been confirmed.

It has now...

truehibernian
01-09-2021, 01:36 PM
Whilst disappointed about McGrsth falling through, it’s been a good window. Another striking option would have been nice, but who knows, might be an opportunity for the likes of Gillian, Laidlaw or O’Connor to get a few sub appearances if form continues.

The new centre half sounds as if he’s raring to go, seems passionate about defending - the young lad from Raith seems highly regarded and another one to develop when he arrives.

All in all, a good window which is showing in results - that’s the main thing. Out with Celtic, there’s no rival that’s made any signing that’s made me raise an eyebrow or break into a sweat.

Souter96Mac
01-09-2021, 01:44 PM
Sounds like another positive signing with bags of potential! Happy with that, also allows him time to continue playing first team football at Raith until Jan. If he kicks on, then we can bring him into the fold for the 2nd half of the season

Wilson
01-09-2021, 01:45 PM
https://twitter.com/HibernianFC

I'm actually quite happy with this signing. A very shrewd signing on our part I think.

I hope we can progress his career and it pays off for both clubs in the long run.

bingo70
01-09-2021, 01:49 PM
I'm actually quite happy with this signing. A very shrewd signing on our part I think.

I hope we can progress his career and it pays off for both clubs in the long run.

I think it could be a terrific signing. Sounds like he’s a real prospect.

blackpoolhibs
01-09-2021, 01:49 PM
Some criticism is valid though. Nothing to do with our opinion, our own manager said he wanted to bring in more and move on players who wouldn’t figure. Yet until very late on in the transfer window it didn’t appear we had anything in the pipeline. I’m not advocating signing players just for the sake of it but we surely have a list of players we are interested in - I doubt many teams sign their first choices all the time.

Ross’ preference appears to be to play two strikers where possible. We only have one main striker currently available, the others would be asked to fulfil a role that isn’t natural for them.

How do you know this, as i have no idea who we were after? A manager has a limited amount of money to spend, i know Ross wouldnt just spend it on someone he really does not want, and perhaps he's thinking he has enough to get through to the next window?

Or perhaps he thinks the players he has coming back will be back sooner than we think, we dont know what Ross is thinking, but as i said before, sometimes you just dont get what you want, and it's better to go with what you have than just spend it on someone you are not sure of.

Unseen work
01-09-2021, 01:50 PM
Tait is a great signing

100k for a 19 year old who has played about 20-30 first team games in the championship is quite a lot but 100% worth it.

Lots of potential.

Puts himself about and very comfortable on the ball.

SonOfDavidFrancey
01-09-2021, 02:01 PM
Personally, I thought that was a fantastic window, mainly because Nisbet, Porteous, Boyle and Doig are still here - why? because someone at the club said we would only sell at our price, and because Ron must be making it worth these players' while to stick around. Compare and contrast McCann from St J. Jake Doyle Hayes looked like a fantastic addition when I saw him for the first time on Saturday. I've yet to see Mackay but he looks like one for the future. Mueller and Tait to come in January already.

Iggy Pope
01-09-2021, 02:03 PM
So what is being suggested around town?

Paperwork issue at Hibs. You not been in town?

jeffers
01-09-2021, 02:04 PM
How do you know this, as i have no idea who we were after? A manager has a limited amount of money to spend, i know Ross wouldnt just spend it on someone he really does not want, and perhaps he's thinking he has enough to get through to the next window?

Or perhaps he thinks the players he has coming back will be back sooner than we think, we dont know what Ross is thinking, but as i said before, sometimes you just dont get what you want, and it's better to go with what you have than just spend it on someone you are not sure of.

I don’t think it’s much of a leap to suggest the last hour movement for McGrath meant we didn’t have anything else lined up ? Or the fact we didn’t move on any players deemed surplus to requirements ?

He said himself he expected more in, so it doesn’t suggest he thought we had enough to get us through to the next window.

Even if players are back sooner than we think, Doidge won’t be, having us gamble on Nisbet staying injury free until January.

MWHIBBIES
01-09-2021, 02:06 PM
Delighted to keep the quality we have. About time we focused on maintaining a good team, rather than rebuilding it.

Since452
01-09-2021, 02:09 PM
Delighted about Tait. Looks the real deal. Rovers are my local club and their fans rave about him.

BILLYHIBS
01-09-2021, 02:15 PM
Delighted with Dylan Tait

Tore the Sheep a new one in the League Cup

They’ll be pleased to see him lining up against them in a HIBS top

One Day Soon
01-09-2021, 02:17 PM
Paperwork issue at Hibs. You not been in town?


Certainly not, full of mouth breathers with virus...

Steve20
01-09-2021, 02:20 PM
Delighted to keep the quality we have. About time we focused on maintaining a good team, rather than rebuilding it.

It should be about improving the team, not just maintain. We stand still and other clubs will overtake us. We should be looking to add the right players to the what we already have. Build a team to finish 3rd again and win a cup.

Maybe this team is capable of that, but another striker should have been brought in. I think James Scott looks a decent player, but he’s not going to score regularly. I’m not a fan of moving Boyle out of position (I know, I know Boxing Day 2019), as we’re moving him from his preferred position. So anything happens to Nisbet, we’re in trouble for the first half of this season.

Having said all that, If Nisbet get through the first half of the season without any injuries etc, then we should be more than capable of challenging until the reinforcements arrive in January.

blackpoolhibs
01-09-2021, 02:21 PM
I don’t think it’s much of a leap to suggest the last hour movement for McGrath meant we didn’t have anything else lined up ? Or the fact we didn’t move on any players deemed surplus to requirements ?

We were after McCart, we wouldnt pay


He said himself he expected more in, so it doesn’t suggest he thought we had enough to get us through to the next window.

Even if players are back before sooner than we think, Doidge won’t be, having us gamble on Nisbet staying injury free until January.

We know the manager wanted another forward, perhaps there was nobody available that he wanted at the price he wanted to pay?

We have Nisbet and Scott plus plenty of cover with Gullan McKay and Boyle up front if need be, you know the worst case scenario might not happen, it probably wont.

And there is still the chance we could bring someone in who is out of contract.

scoopyboy
01-09-2021, 02:22 PM
Some criticism is valid though. Nothing to do with our opinion, our own manager said he wanted to bring in more and move on players who wouldn’t figure. Yet until very late on in the transfer window it didn’t appear we had anything in the pipeline. I’m not advocating signing players just for the sake of it but we surely have a list of players we are interested in - I doubt many teams sign their first choices all the time.

Ross’ preference appears to be to play two strikers where possible. We only have one main striker currently available, the others would be asked to fulfil a role that isn’t natural for them.

Good post apart from the bit in bold, you are guessing at that bit.

Even if we had got McGrath, he isn't a striker and that was my main wish.

scoopyboy
01-09-2021, 02:25 PM
We know the manager wanted another forward, perhaps there was nobody available that he wanted at the price he wanted to pay?

We have Nisbet and Scott plus plenty of cover with Gullan McKay and Boyle up front if need be, you know the worst case scenario might not happen, it probably wont.

And there is still the chance we could bring someone in who is out of contract.

There is also the possibility of giving a youngster a shot.

Josh O'Connor bagged a brace in their first League match, if he continues to score at that level he may get some game time in the first team. He has a good physique that probably gives him the advantage at the moment.

hibby rae
01-09-2021, 02:25 PM
We know the manager wanted another forward, perhaps there was nobody available that he wanted at the price he wanted to pay?

We have Nisbet and Scott plus plenty of cover with Gullan McKay and Boyle up front if need be, you know the worst case scenario might not happen, it probably wont.

And there is still the chance we could bring someone in whois out of contract.

If you remember in the second season of that Sunderland doc, Jack Ross was very clear in paying what a player is worth.

So he said he didn't think Will Griggs was worth what they were paying, and he was proven right, but the chairman didn't listen.

MWHIBBIES
01-09-2021, 02:27 PM
It should be about improving the team, not just maintain. We stand still and other clubs will overtake us. We should be looking to add the right players to the what we already have. Build a team to finish 3rd again and win a cup.

Maybe this team is capable of that, but another striker should have been brought in. I think James Scott looks a decent player, but he’s not going to score regularly. I’m not a fan of moving Boyle out of position (I know, I know Boxing Day 2019), as we’re moving him from his preferred position. So anything happens to Nisbet, we’re in trouble for the first half of this season.

Having said all that, If Nisbet get through the first half of the season without any injuries etc, then we should be more than capable of challenging until the reinforcements arrive in January.
The team certainly improved. That is possible through more than just transfers.

neil7908
01-09-2021, 02:27 PM
Delighted about Tait. Looks the real deal. Rovers are my local club and their fans rave about him.

He's not a player I've been aware of but sounds really promising. Hopefully another Nisbet!

jeffers
01-09-2021, 02:33 PM
Good post apart from the bit in bold, you are guessing at that bit.

Even if we had got McGrath, he isn't a striker and that was my main wish.

Oh absolutely I am SB. But if we were down the line with someone else you’d have thought it would have come out, and we then abandoned it when we thought McGrath was an option ? Not outwith the realms of possibility I suppose.

Jonnyboy
01-09-2021, 02:37 PM
He's not a player I've been aware of but sounds really promising. Hopefully another Nisbet!

I’ve watched him a couple of times and been impressed. Worth reading the news item re his transfer on the RR club website.

He’s signed a four year deal with Hibs. Great prospect 👍

Since452
01-09-2021, 02:41 PM
I’ve watched him a couple of times and been impressed. Worth reading the news item re his transfer on the RR club website.

He’s signed a four year deal with Hibs. Great prospect ��

Sure is. 68 appearances at a decent level at 19 is promising too.

"Dylan (19) has made 68 appearances in total for the Rovers, scoring 8 goals, since making his debut at the end of the 2018-19 season away to Montrose in SPFL League One".

hibbydog
01-09-2021, 02:42 PM
A good window overall.

We’ve kept our best players and signed several new ones which are better than what we had. And there’s long term thinking with young guys coming in.

The injury to Doidge was unfortunate and I’d have liked another striker, but you can’t have everything in life.

Overall 9/10. I’d have given Hibs 10/10 if Muller came in now rather than January.

Yours
A non happy clapping reasonable Hibby with realistic expectations 😎

Smartie
01-09-2021, 02:43 PM
It should be about improving the team, not just maintain. We stand still and other clubs will overtake us. We should be looking to add the right players to the what we already have. Build a team to finish 3rd again and win a cup.

Maybe this team is capable of that, but another striker should have been brought in. I think James Scott looks a decent player, but he’s not going to score regularly. I’m not a fan of moving Boyle out of position (I know, I know Boxing Day 2019), as we’re moving him from his preferred position. So anything happens to Nisbet, we’re in trouble for the first half of this season.

Having said all that, If Nisbet get through the first half of the season without any injuries etc, then we should be more than capable of challenging until the reinforcements arrive in January.

I think our only gripe can be that of the striker we didn't get.

We did well enough last season, and there are plenty of reasons why we should be better this season - Nisbet, Doig, Porteous in particular are young players with a bit more experience under their belts. Magennis looks head and shoulders above the player he was last season. JDH looks a real find and whilst the midfield still flattered to deceive a wee bit at times last season, it looks the part this season.

The negatives compared to last season - Marciano leaves behind large gloves to fill. Doidge is a massive loss, hopefully we see something from him before the season is out.

We're a striker short and that may or may not bite us on the backside.

McGrath was a glorious last ditch piece of opportunism that sadly didn't come off, but no way should Hibs be criticised for what happened there. Would have been great to secure him, but...

I'm happy that we very nearly have what we need for the immediate challenges we face. An "out of contract" striker arriving after the window closes may be the last piece of the jigsaw.

Next challenge though - if we have a good season (as I expect us to) then we'll have vital European games next July/ August. Our manager needs more next year than he had this year. Next summer we need to make sure we have a good squad in place capable of punching above it's weight in Europe and trying to move us on a level.

LancsHibs
01-09-2021, 02:45 PM
Some folk need to relax, all of our star men retained until January at least. Doidge back by December (maybe sooner?) New striker in January and I’m sure the club will be signing an out of contract striker as cover until Jan/end of season very soon. All in all quite pleased

Since452
01-09-2021, 02:49 PM
I think it's been a good window. A few young lads too which shows a bit of forward thinking. Great to see. Would have loved to have got Nathan Wood permanently but we don't have a spare 9 million lying about.

loanheadhibby
01-09-2021, 03:09 PM
Scrapping the transfer window would make things much better for the "elite" clubs. They're the ones with the money to go strengthen throughout the season, or to go steal players who're doing well from the smaller teams, or just steal players from any smaller team who's getting a little too close by the end of the season.

So keep it in place for the elite leagues. Let the other countries who are not awash with tv money do some trading.

League of Ireland, Wales, Scotland, Denmark etc could benefit from buying/selling players to help throughout the season when injuries/suspensions kick in. It’s not like we’ll be shelling out millions

madhatter
01-09-2021, 03:12 PM
Decent window. Shame about McGrath. All we can hope is Nisbet doesn't pick up an injury and we sail through to January time when Doidge should be making a comeback and Mueller arrives.

loanheadhibby
01-09-2021, 03:13 PM
People need to cool their jets on Doidge being back by January. It’s a bad injury he’s picked up. Even when he’s back he’ll not be firing on all cylinders. Also bound to pick up niggling injuries when he does come back.

147lothian
01-09-2021, 03:17 PM
For me this has been a fantastic window keeping hold of Doig, Porteous, Nisbet and Boyle on a contract extension and of course Nathan Wood coming in means the club are keeping hold of their best players while adding quality. It looks like long term thinking, full credit has to go to Ron Gordon and the board, it seems like the dark days of selling our best players then taking gambles on others are behind us.

Sioux
01-09-2021, 03:27 PM
So keep it in place for the elite leagues. Let the other countries who are not awash with tv money do some trading.

League of Ireland, Wales, Scotland, Denmark etc could benefit from buying/selling players to help throughout the season when injuries/suspensions kick in. It’s not like we’ll be shelling out millions

Aye that would work right enough. Last two months of the season, Rangers or Celtic need a player or two for the league title, they're free to pillage every other club in the league.

That would go down well.

JimBHibees
01-09-2021, 03:35 PM
There is also the possibility of giving a youngster a shot.

Josh O'Connor bagged a brace in their first League match, if he continues to score at that level he may get some game time in the first team. He has a good physique that probably gives him the advantage at the moment.

Is Ethan Laidlaw not quite strong physically also? Would be good if we get a few really promising younger players pushing for places.

EdinburghHibern
01-09-2021, 03:38 PM
So keep it in place for the elite leagues. Let the other countries who are not awash with tv money do some trading.

League of Ireland, Wales, Scotland, Denmark etc could benefit from buying/selling players to help throughout the season when injuries/suspensions kick in. It’s not like we’ll be shelling out millions

You've just highlighted the exact reasons why there are transfer windows.

It prevents the rich effectively stealing from the poor.

Shrekko
01-09-2021, 03:38 PM
Let’s all resolve to criticise fellow Hibs fans a little less. If some folk get a little, er, emotional after a setback, let it be.

Hibs.net is not just a place for witty, intelligent discourse. Sometimes it’s just about letting off steam.



On the contrary - these cretins, particularly on social media should be getting called out more by decent people. I can only think what a potential signing would make of our platforms- it's not just people 'letting off steam' it is horrible trolls who normally have all kinds of 'I love Hibs' in their signatures and profiles being disgustingly abusive towards the club, the players and staff. It's not really about football its about human decency- but on a football level, why do these idiots hate their club so much?

CropleyWasGod
01-09-2021, 03:41 PM
Aye that would work right enough. Last two months of the season, Rangers or Celtic need a player or two for the league title, they're free to pillage every other club in the league.

That would go down well.

From memory, pre windows, there was a cut-off near the end of the season, for that very reason.

SHODAN
01-09-2021, 03:43 PM
And we're done. Calm yourselves.