Summer 2021-22 transfer thread

[Mr. Wonderful]

Over rated but still 20 times better than Irvine or Newell to be fair

Is Omeonga still hiding from hearts' relegation midfield?

[500miles]

Because he played some Hibs songs on a piano or smirked at Scott brown that one time?

Him and Mulumbu were absolutely getting tore into each other in one game, was great to watch. Not convinced he's the required standard every week though.

[Stuart93]

Over rated but still 20 times better than Irvine or Newell to be fair

Na that’s nonsense. He’s really not that good a player. One of those who seems to get better the longer he’s been away.

[neil7908]

Irvine hasn't shown enough for us to be falling over ourselves offering him a deal IMO.

If he goes to Aberdeen because they offer him a better deal fine, for me there should be a ceiling on him that we don't break through.

I agree. I want to keep him but I wouldn't be offering him anything crazy. We also need to seriously address the imbalance in our squad. We have a glut of CMs and very few options out wide or up top. That needs to be addressed this summer.

[Stuart93]

Ethan Laidlaw going on trial at Liverpool.

Been surprised we never gave him a shot considering the teams that are having a look at him

[Hibbyradge]

Ethan Laidlaw going on trial at Liverpool.

Been surprised we never gave him a shot considering the teams that are having a look at him

He most likely would have been given a run against Celtc if it hadn't been for the Covid restrictions.

[superfurryhibby]

Has Irvine done much for us?

I'd rather sign players that will definitely improve us. Not sign them to stop Aberdeen getting them.

Same goes for Griffiths. What one would be getting and how much is it costing?

Irvine has been pretty average. Some glimmers of ability now and then but at other times completely anonymous.

Really don't think there is a huge amount between Irvine, Hallberg, Mallan, Magennis and Newell. Tidy enough players each with their pluses but very little drive between them.

Tend to agree with this, although I would say that Magennis has thus far shown very little from which to base make any meaningful comparison with any of the others.

Irvine has generally underwhelmed me. I suspect he hasn't been used as effectively as he might have been, but I'm not seeing the kind of player his pedigree suggests should be there. No chance I would be pushing out the boat for him to sign up.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Is Omeonga still hiding from hearts' relegation midfield?

He was the best out of our midfield trio that day which also contained Allan and Docherty!

[Alex Trager]

Wouldn’t bother me one bit, really don’t see what he offers. He had a decent game up at Aberdeen but other than that he hasn’t been a stand out for me.

I think he and we play better when he plays with Hallberg.

Dono why

[Gmack7]

I think he and we play better when he plays with Hallberg.

Dono why

Possibly because both like to play forward passes and try to keep the tempo, as good as Newall is at retaining possession he can slow it to a snails pace. I really hope Magennis kicks on and claims a CM position

[Stuart93]

Ignoring any players leaving for now...what do people think we need to add?

I’d fancy a new spine. A commanding centre midfielder and another who can unlock defences (unsure if Scott Allan will ever get back to his best)

Wouldn’t mind a new CB as well, Jason Kerr would be my shout.

The above is obviously unlikely until we sell a few which will no doubt happen.

[Brightside]

Jason Kerr and Campbell are the 2 most important players we could get right now. Everything else depends on who goes. The young lad we signed Mackay will sort out the left side of midfield.

[calumhibee1]

Na that’s nonsense. He’s really not that good a player. One of those who seems to get better the longer he’s been away.

:agree:

I’m certain we won’t but I wouldn’t want him anywhere near our team. Good attitude but thats about as good as it gets with him imo.

[calumhibee1]

Ignoring any players leaving for now...what do people think we need to add?

I’d fancy a new spine. A commanding centre midfielder and another who can unlock defences (unsure if Scott Allan will ever get back to his best)

Wouldn’t mind a new CB as well, Jason Kerr would be my shout.

The above is obviously unlikely until we sell a few which will no doubt happen.

Athleticism.

Our team have very little of it imo. A couple of players who can get about in midfield, a centre half with a bit about them physically and a striker with real pace.

Other than that, either use Scott Allan or get someone with a bit of a maverick side in them to replace him.

[Stuart93]

Jason Kerr and Campbell are the 2 most important players we could get right now. Everything else depends on who goes. The young lad we signed Mackay will sort out the left side of midfield.

Completely agree with that. Would be superb signings if we could get them in

[delbert]

Ignoring any players leaving for now...what do people think we need to add?

I’d fancy a new spine. A commanding centre midfielder and another who can unlock defences (unsure if Scott Allan will ever get back to his best)

Wouldn’t mind a new CB as well, Jason Kerr would be my shout.

The above is obviously unlikely until we sell a few which will no doubt happen.

I’d have settled for one of two actual spines last weekend !

[Stuart93]

I’d have settled for one of two actual spines last weekend !

Haha aye think we all would’ve bud 👍🏼

Moving on and recruiting well is the only thing we can do

[Vault Boy]

Completely agree with that. Would be superb signings if we could get them in

Absolutely. I'm admittedly pessimistic about our chances of signing either, although Kerr could be a possibility should we lose Porteous. Campbell is almost certainly destined for the Championship, or maybe even the MLS.

[J-C]

Pace, energy and athleticism is a must as we only have about 2 players that have it.

[Stuart93]

Pace, energy and athleticism is a must as we only have about 2 players that have it.

Yea definitely need a couple who aren’t afraid to carry the ball forward and try beat a man, feel out with maybe Boyle and Murphy we don’t really have anyone who can take on and beat a man

[Vault Boy]

Pace, energy and athleticism is a must as we only have about 2 players that have it.

I think you're right. We've needed more natural mobility, particularly in midfield, for years now. This squad is better than the Vela-Mallan-Allan combo, but we're still lacking.

I know his cup final performance has cemented a lot of people's opinions about him, but I'm still of the opinion that Jackson Irvine provides some of that, particularly with a full pre season behind him.

Mackay is a promising start on this front. Replacements for Mallan, Wright, and potentially Hallberg might be our next opportunity to improve this area.

[jeffers]

I think you're right. We've needed more natural mobility, particularly in midfield, for years now. This squad is better than the Vela-Mallan-Allan combo, but we're still lacking.

I know his cup final performance has cemented a lot of people's opinions about him, but I'm still of the opinion that Jackson Irvine provides some of that, particularly with a full pre season behind him.

Mackay is a promising start on this front. Replacements for Mallan, Wright, and potentially Hallberg might be our next opportunity to improve this area.

I like Irvine too and still hope we sign him. For whatever reasons though it doesn’t work with Newell, who appears to be a preferred starter for Ross.

[Spudster]

Some bizarre chat on the Aberdeen forums. They think they are getting Boyle for £300k plus Matty Kennedy

[J-C]

Some bizarre chat on the Aberdeen forums. They think they are getting Boyle for £300k plus Matty Kennedy

Bit strange seeing as there's a £500k clause.

[bigwheel]

Bit strange seeing as there's a £500k clause.

After seeing Kennedy lately , I think including him would make that 600k plus Kennedy ! [emoji102]

[Mr. Wonderful]

He was the best out of our midfield trio that day which also contained Allan and Docherty!

Sodje was the best of our strikers under Calderwood.

[MWHIBBIES]

Some bizarre chat on the Aberdeen forums. They think they are getting Boyle for £300k plus Matty Kennedy

:faf:

Belter that is.

[Unseen work]

With the Aberdeen fans I think some are guessing they’ll pay St Mirren 300k plus Kennedy for McGrath, not Boyle.

[badabing67]

With the Aberdeen fans I think some are guessing they’ll pay St Mirren 300k plus Kennedy for McGrath, not Boyle.

I really think like Jamie McGrath I think he has been one of the best midfielders in the League this season. He has only got 1 year left on his contract. I think it would be extremely difficult for us the sign Campbell and I think McGrath a more realistic prospect of signing and would improve our current midfield. Imo

[Steve88]

Greg Docherty type of player:agree:..

[JimBHibees]

I really think like Jamie McGrath I think he has been one of the best midfielders in the League this season. He has only got 1 year left on his contract. I think it would be extremely difficult for us the sign Campbell and I think McGrath a more realistic prospect of signing and would improve our current midfield. Imo

Games I have seen McGrath he has had next to no influence. Certainly knows where the goal is though a lot of goals are pens

[JimBHibees]

Jason Kerr and Campbell are the 2 most important players we could get right now. Everything else depends on who goes. The young lad we signed Mackay will sort out the left side of midfield.

Really can't see Kerr leaving this summer after captaining Saints to two cup wins and a Europe campaign to play in

[Potty78]

Games I have seen McGrath he has had next to no influence. Certainly knows where the goal is though a lot of goals are pens
Remind u of anyone🤔

[JimBHibees]

Over rated but still 20 times better than Irvine or Newell to be fair

Not better than either.

[JimBHibees]

Remind u of anyone🤔

Another ex St Mirren player? :greengrin

[Potty78]

Another ex St Mirren player? :greengrin

I'd say they are the exact same as players👍

[Mr. Wonderful]

With the Aberdeen fans I think some are guessing they’ll pay St Mirren 300k plus Kennedy for McGrath, not Boyle.

Would 100% take Kennedy.

[hibeerealist]

Not better than either.

Its a game of opinions right enough, not better than either jeezo!!

[Stuart93]

Greg Docherty type of player:agree:..

Really liked Docherty and chipped in with goals. Was sad to see him go down south

[Greenbeard]

Pace, energy and athleticism is a must as we only have about 2 players that have it.
Three reasons why I'd love to have the buzz-bomb Omeonga back.

[Magpie]

Really liked Docherty and chipped in with goals. Was sad to see him go down south

He was good. Just helped Hull to promotion and a contender for their player of the season.

[Gmack7]

Would 100% take Kennedy.

Did we not have him a few years back on loan from Everton I think

[JimBHibees]

Did we not have him a few years back on loan from Everton I think

Yes we did

[JimBHibees]

Its a game of opinions right enough, not better than either jeezo!!

Certainly not on Omeongas last loan

[brog]

Watching an abject Killie side last night I recalled some on here saying we should go for Kabamba or Brophy!!! I've always quite liked Kiltie & McKenzie but I don't think they're what we need right now. TBF to Ross, I think most people approved of his signings & many of them, Gogic & Cadden in particular, were touted on here long before arrival. Most people also approved of Murphy, Nisbet, Magennis and Irvine. Ironically, probably the most successful has been the least heralded, Paul McGinn. I think the point I'm trying to make is we tend to notice players doing something well or having a good game for another team. When they come to us & are subjected to more regular scrutiny, the allure often fades. Kerr & Campbell fit the profile of players we are in market for but personally I remain to be convinced about the latter. I think the young lad Hamilton, at Hamilton, is a real talent & as its been a while since we signed a St M player, I'd go for Cammy MacPherson. Unlike our midfield he actually shoots!

[truehibernian]

Watching an abject Killie side last night I recalled some on here saying we should go for Kabamba or Brophy!!! I've always quite liked Kiltie & McKenzie but I don't think they're what we need right now. TBF to Ross, I think most people approved of his signings & many of them, Gogic & Cadden in particular, were touted on here long before arrival. Most people also approved of Murphy, Nisbet, Magennis and Irvine. Ironically, probably the most successful has been the least heralded, Paul McGinn. I think the point I'm trying to make is we tend to notice players doing something well or having a good game for another team. When they come to us & are subjected to more regular scrutiny, the allure often fades. Kerr & Campbell fit the profile of players we are in market for but personally I remain to be convinced about the latter. I think the young lad Hamilton, at Hamilton, is a real talent & as its been a while since we signed a St M player, I'd go for Cammy MacPherson. Unlike our midfield he actually shoots!

A very good shout Brog, terrific young player with bags of room to develop - sadly he's St. Mirren's prize asset and he would not be cheap. A McGinn type deal however may change their opinion.

He will be a terrific player :aok:

[Mutu]

Ignoring any players leaving for now...what do people think we need to add?

I’d fancy a new spine. A commanding centre midfielder and another who can unlock defences (unsure if Scott Allan will ever get back to his best)

Wouldn’t mind a new CB as well, Jason Kerr would be my shout.

The above is obviously unlikely until we sell a few which will no doubt happen.

100% our priority should be a centre back and some real creative quality in midfield. I'd be letting Wright / Maginnes away to free up wages if necessary, can't see them really making the grade long term. Mate of mine was saying Durmus would be a good signing - would have to agree.

[Potty78]

I still have high Hope's for Magennis, hopefully a good pre season behind him and he can progress🤞

[Magpie]

I still have high Hope's for Magennis, hopefully a good pre season behind him and he can progress🤞

Highly rated at St Mirren, can only assume for now that the injuries he had have affected him more than we anticipated. Like you say though, a good pre season could hopefully see him come to life a bit more.

[superfurryhibby]

100% our priority should be a centre back and some real creative quality in midfield. I'd be letting Wright / Maginnes away to free up wages if necessary, can't see them really making the grade long term. Mate of mine was saying Durmus would be a good signing - would have to agree.

Magennis is here on a 5 year deal and going nowhere anytime soon.


I still have high Hope's for Magennis, hopefully a good pre season behind him and he can progress🤞

Ross has invested a lot in him. I would say that he's been at Hibs since September and offered very little. He must have been match fit for many months so not sure a pre-season will make any difference.

[Mutu]

Magennis is here on a 5 year deal and going nowhere anytime soon.



Ross has invested a lot in him. I would say that he's been at Hibs since September and offered very little. He must have been match fit for many months so not sure a pre-season will make any difference.

Think there's an element of Newell under Hecky - playing out of position. He's clearly better suited to playing centrally.

[Bostonhibby]

Magennis is here on a 5 year deal and going nowhere anytime soon.



Ross has invested a lot in him. I would say that he's been at Hibs since September and offered very little. He must have been match fit for many months so not sure a pre-season will make any difference.

Good friend who is a st Mirren season ticket holder rates Magennis very highly, says he's a central midfielder first and foremost.

Got high hopes for him next season.

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[truehibernian]

I still have high Hope's for Magennis, hopefully a good pre season behind him and he can progress🤞

I want every Hibs player to succeed, but I'm afraid I'm just not seeing it with Magennis, and I'm really unsure what he brings to the side. Humble pie is always oven-ready though.

[superfurryhibby]

Good friend who is a st Mirren season ticket holder rates Magennis very highly, says he's a central midfielder first and foremost.

Got high hopes for him next season.

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Yes, to be fair it's not often he's played in that central role. He has to earn the right though and show he's better than the competition. Like you guys, I'm hopeful he will establish himself, but I can't say he done much to show that he will thus far. Time is on his side though, next season will be a big one for him.

[CMurdoch]

100% our priority should be a centre back and some real creative quality in midfield. I'd be letting Wright / Maginnes away to free up wages if necessary, can't see them really making the grade long term. Mate of mine was saying Durmus would be a good signing - would have to agree.

What would you do if Wright and Magennis didn't want to go? Additionally Ross paid good money for Magennis a player he knows well. He will be expecting him to come good next season. Time will tell, but too soon to bin even after an admittedly pedestrian start.

[Unseen work]

Magennis has only played left mid because we’ve had a severe lack of them and he’s been coming back from injury and lacking confidence.

By all accounts the players think he’s a bit of a tank and his best football was played centrally and going by Ross’ description that’s where he will play.

A good pre season and staying free of injury and he’ll show he’s a good signing

[Stuart93]

Aye I think there’s more to come from magennis but has to be through the middle, he’s not a left midfielder.

He certainly won’t be getting sold 1 year into a 4/5 year contact

[Stokesy's on fire]

Some bizarre chat on the Aberdeen forums. They think they are getting Boyle for £300k plus Matty Kennedy

They are deluded ignore them. They are utter idiots they think Aberdeen are a financial powerhouse.

[CMurdoch]

Magennis has only played left mid because we’ve had a severe lack of them and he’s been coming back from injury and lacking confidence.

By all accounts the players think he’s a bit of a tank and his best football was played centrally and going by Ross’ description that’s where he will play.

A good pre season and staying free of injury and he’ll show he’s a good signing

I agree with that. He has begun to move on from the bad injury and built himself up in the gym. I reckon he will be ready to step it up next season and use that new found power and if he combines that with the ability Ross believes he has will win us over.

[04Sauzee]

Sunderland release list, don't know much about them or if many/any played under Jack Ross.

✍️ Sunderland have confirmed the following players have been released:

Callum McFadzean
Chris Maguire
Conor McLaughlin
Grant Leadbitter
Josh Scowen
Max Power
Remi Matthews

#SAFC https://t.co/pUWzNxnrL3

[Jones28]

Sunderland release list, don't know much about them or if many/any played under Jack Ross.

✍️ Sunderland have confirmed the following players have been released:

Callum McFadzean
Chris Maguire
Conor McLaughlin
Grant Leadbitter
Josh Scowen
Max Power
Remi Matthews

#SAFC https://t.co/pUWzNxnrL3

Maguire definitely did, not sure about the others.

[bingo70]

Sunderland release list, don't know much about them or if many/any played under Jack Ross.

✍️ Sunderland have confirmed the following players have been released:

Callum McFadzean
Chris Maguire
Conor McLaughlin
Grant Leadbitter
Josh Scowen
Max Power
Remi Matthews

#SAFC https://t.co/pUWzNxnrL3

I think Max Power played a lot under Jack Ross but I’m not sure.

[ElginHibbie]

I think Max Power played a lot under Jack Ross but I’m not sure.

I'd be all for signing him just cause imagine that name would cause chaos on here at times

[bingo70]

I'd be all for signing him just cause imagine that name would cause chaos on here at times

I think the boy has to be good with a name like that.

If he’s ***** he needs to change his name.

[SteveHFC]

I'd be all for signing him just cause imagine that name would cause chaos on here at times

https://youtu.be/BSVms6cT9nk

[Big_Franck]

Sunderland release list, don't know much about them or if many/any played under Jack Ross.

✍️ Sunderland have confirmed the following players have been released:

Callum McFadzean
Chris Maguire
Conor McLaughlin
Grant Leadbitter
Josh Scowen
Max Power
Remi Matthews

#SAFC https://t.co/pUWzNxnrL3

He's 32 now and I've no idea how he did this season, but I've always liked Chris Maguire.

[matty_f]

I think the boy has to be good with a name like that.

If he’s ***** he needs to change his name.

100%. :agree:

[ElginHibbie]

https://youtu.be/BSVms6cT9nk

A song already sorted!

Ron/Jack, get him signed

[CMurdoch]

Some bizarre chat on the Aberdeen forums. They think they are getting Boyle for £300k plus Matty Kennedy

How would that sideways move benefit Boyle?
He is looking for a pay day i.e 3 year contract with an English Championship team with a nice fat signing on fee etc not a match up with Deadly Dave and Grampa Broony at the freezerdome for an extra few quid a week and free air travel to Atlanta.
Never happening.

[badabing67]

A song already sorted!

Ron/Jack, get him signed


That song is even worse than some of the efforts put up here on various threads

[MrRobot]

Absolutely. I'm admittedly pessimistic about our chances of signing either, although Kerr could be a possibility should we lose Porteous. Campbell is almost certainly destined for the Championship, or maybe even the MLS.

2 great signings if we can get them.

[Hibbyradge]

Magennis has only played left mid because we’ve had a severe lack of them and he’s been coming back from injury and lacking confidence.

By all accounts the players think he’s a bit of a tank and his best football was played centrally and going by Ross’ description that’s where he will play.

A good pre season and staying free of injury and he’ll show he’s a good signing

What do they mean he's a "tank"?

[J-C]

What do they mean he's a "tank"?


Strong and muscular, does a fair bit in the gym seemingly.

If you look at the way John McGinn is built, similar.

[Hibbyradge]

Strong and muscular, does a fair bit in the gym seemingly.

Not slow and lumbering then. Phew!

[CapitalGreen]

What do they mean he's a "tank"?

Equipped with a large weapon?

[SteveHFC]

That song is even worse than some of the efforts put up here on various threads

The Max Power song from the Simpsons is one of the finest songs in tv history.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Sunderland release list, don't know much about them or if many/any played under Jack Ross.

✍️ Sunderland have confirmed the following players have been released:

Callum McFadzean
Chris Maguire
Conor McLaughlin
Grant Leadbitter
Josh Scowen
Max Power
Remi Matthews

#SAFC https://t.co/pUWzNxnrL3

Josh Scowen was very highly thought of at one point. Sure Hecky loved him

[Unseen work]

What do they mean he's a "tank"?

Just very good in the gym. Very strong boy who also doesn’t mind putting himself out.

He just needs to get used to playing in games again after so long out. Getting a proper feel for it again in pre season will pay dividends.

Him, Irvine and Allan as the middle 3....should have everything.

Until he proves himself though and shows exactly the quality he has though he’ll struggle to displace Gogic, who imo has been a fantastic signing and much better than I ever imagined - his last ditch tackle in the final epitomised how he has been this season.

[HoboHarry]

I'd be all for signing him just cause imagine that name would cause chaos on here at times
Probably end up with someone the victim of a battery......

[Unseen work]

A couple of players I’d like to see us go for in various different capacities. Some would be bursting the bank, some competition, some good squad depth - something we lacked during the latter stages of the season.


Goalkeeper

Liam Kelly - QPR - 2023
Robbie McCrorie - Rangers - 2023
Scott Bain - Celtic - 2023

Defenders

Jason Kerr - St Johnstone - 2022
Jamie McCart - St Johnstone - 2022
Liam Lindsay - Stoke - 2022
Ciaron Brown - Cardiff - 2021
Greg Taylor - Celtic - 2023

Midfielders

Lewis Wing - Middlesbrough - 2021
Harry Paton - Ross County -2021
Alan Campbell - Motherwell - 2021
Jake Doyle Hayes - St Mirren - 2021
Jamie McGrath - St Mirren - 2022
Cammy McPherson - St Mirren - 2022
Jeando Fuchs - Dundee United - 2022
Regan Hendry - Raith Rovers - 2021
Roddy McGregor - ICT - 2022
Max Power - Sunderland - 2021
Luka Connell - Celtic - 2023
Jordan Jones - Rangers - 2023

Strikers

Greg Stewart - Rangers -2021
Devante Cole - Motherwell - 2021
Laurence Shankland - Dundee United - 2022
Leigh Griffiths - Celtic - 2021
Louis Moult - Preston - 2021
Chris Maguire - Sunderland - 2021
Zak Rudden - Partick - 2022
Glen Middleton - Rangers - 2023

Some would cost a fee, some wouldn’t.

Some would be able to command a much higher wage/be out of our price range, some wouldn’t.

Glenn Middleton is one I had high hopes for when we first got him but I think Heckingbottom killed him a bit. Done really well for St Johnstone though and gave us a tough time. Doubt either party would fancy a return though.

There will definitely be a lot of incomings and outgoings this summer when you think the following, albeit not all of them, could realistically be away

Ofir Marciano - Out of contract
Tom James - Out of favour/ wants more first team football
David Gray - Out of favour/wants more first team football
Ryan Porteous - Interest from other teams
Sean Mackie - injuries? Looks good when he plays but is he reliable?
Josh Doig - Interest from other clubs
Drey Wright - Not been a great signing, time to move on?
Melker Hallberg - Out of favour/ wants more first team football
Stephen McGinn - Out of contract
Stevie Mallan - Out of favour/ wants more first team football
Fraser Murray - Out of favour/ wants more first team football
Jackson Irvine - Out of contract
Jamie Gullan - Out of favour/ wants more first team football
Martin Boyle - Interest from other clubs
Kevin Nisbet - Interest from other clubs

Clearly not all of them will leave. But my point is you could make a point/understand - why any of them might not be here next season.

[BSEJVT]

What do they mean he's a "tank"?

Rhyming slang I think:greengrin

[JimBHibees]

He's 32 now and I've no idea how he did this season, but I've always liked Chris Maguire.

I would be surprised if we weren't interested in Maguire especially given he has already worked with Jack. Always had something about him. Can remember being at the u21 game at ER when he scored from the kick off.

[Iain G]

What do they mean he's a "tank"?

It could mean he an Ecuadorian international centre forward? 🤔

[badabing67]

The Max Power song from the Simpsons is one of the finest songs in tv history.

:faf:

[blackpoolhibs]

Josh Scowen was very highly thought of at one point. Sure Hecky loved him

Thats one very big reason to ignore him.

[Greenworld]

If the young 16 year old leaves and joins man city or unt or whoever what woukd hibs get for that given he is under contract , anyone know

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[Hibernian Verse]

If the young 16 year old leaves and joins man city or unt or whoever what woukd hibs get for that given he is under contract , anyone know

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A fee will be agreed between the clubs. If a fee can't be agreed then it would go to a tribunal who would decide what we got.

Going forward, we would be due small percentages every time he moves clubs for a fee.

I'd expect Hibs would agree a fee and a sell on clause, though, to maximise income rather than put it in the hands of a tribunal with little sell on value.

[04Sauzee]

A fee will be agreed between the clubs. If a fee can't be agreed then it would go to a tribunal who would decide what we got.

Going forward, we would be due small percentages every time he moves clubs for a fee.

I'd expect Hibs would agree a fee and a sell on clause, though, to maximise income rather than put it in the hands of a tribunal with little sell on value.
Would a tribunal be involved with someone who has signed a pro contract and is still under contract? Not sure how these things work.

[sleeping giant]

Would a tribunal be involved with someone who has signed a pro contract and is still under contract? Not sure how these things work.

Wouldnt imagine so.
It will just be a transfer fee and sell on to Hibs.

[500miles]

See Josh Campbell was tearing it up for Edinburgh City. 10 goals and 4 assists in 30 games from midfield.

His problem seemed to be a lack of composure when he broke through, I wonder if a successful loan spell could be enough to give him the confidence to push on.

[SMAXXA]

A fee will be agreed between the clubs. If a fee can't be agreed then it would go to a tribunal who would decide what we got.

Going forward, we would be due small percentages every time he moves clubs for a fee.

I'd expect Hibs would agree a fee and a sell on clause, though, to maximise income rather than put it in the hands of a tribunal with little sell on value.

Tribunal isn’t the case as he’s under contract they would have to buy him. Tribunal only comes into play if clubs can’t agree on the development fee / compensation for an out of contract player whom the club offer a new deal on the same or improved terms as the original contract

[Greenworld]

Tribunal isn’t the case as he’s under contract they would have to buy him. Tribunal only comes into play if clubs can’t agree on the development fee / compensation for an out of contract player whom the club offer a new deal on the same or improved terms as the original contractSo it is a normal transfer i wonder what value the club has in mind?

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[porthibbie]

So it is a normal transfer i wonder what value the club has in mind?

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Interesting story for signing 16 year old.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/11/liverpool-to-pay-fulham-record-fee-for-harvey-elliott-after-tribunal-ruling

[04Sauzee]

Interesting story for signing 16 year old.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/11/liverpool-to-pay-fulham-record-fee-for-harvey-elliott-after-tribunal-ruling
I don't think Elliott had signed a professional contract with Fulham,sure that's where the difference is? Again I could be wrong .

[Cardinal G]

Josh Scowen was very highly thought of at one point. Sure Hecky loved him

As a sunderland season ticket holder as well there is not one of this lot I would want at Hibs.

[Cardinal G]

I would be surprised if we weren't interested in Maguire especially given he has already worked with Jack. Always had something about him. Can remember being at the u21 game at ER when he scored from the kick off.

Think with Maguire is on his day he can be unplayable but it's only 1 game in six that he turns up. Spectacular goals are his trademark at Sunderland but fear his best days are well behind him, we should be looking for far better players than him who will be looking for a last payday.

[Hibbyradge]

Equipped with a large weapon?

:tee hee:

[Mr. Wonderful]

A guy at my work's best mate is a coach at Celtic, says we've expressed an interest in taking Bayo for next season.

[calumhibee1]

A guy at my work's best mate is a coach at Celtic, says we've expressed an interest in taking Bayo for next season.

Not sure I’d be keen on that

[flash]

Not sure I’d be keen on that

I couldn't tell you the first thing about him to be brutally honest. Defensive midfielder?

[Mr. Wonderful]

Not sure I’d be keen on that

Has had a good season in France. As a 3rd striker I don't think it would be a terrible shout

[CapitalGreen]

I couldn't tell you the first thing about him to be brutally honest. Defensive midfielder?

Ivory Coast international centre forward. Scored 12 and assisted 3 in 34 appearances (16 starts) on loan at Toulouse last season in Ligue 2. Scored a goal or provided an assist every 120 minutes.

Source: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/vakoun-issouf-bayo/leistungsdaten/spieler/375877/saison/2020/plus/1#gesamt

[Greenbeard]

A guy at my work's best mate is a coach at Celtic, says we've expressed an interest in taking Bayo for next season.
I think he'd quickly get homesick. It says so in the song.
Bayo, Bay-ay-ay-ay-o.
Bayo come and he wanna go home.......

[calumhibee1]

Has had a good season in France. As a 3rd striker I don't think it would be a terrible shout

I’d be surprised if it would be as a third striker but I’d be more open to that idea. His record in Scotland is terrible though.

[CapitalGreen]

I’d be surprised if it would be as a third striker but I’d be more open to that idea. His record in Scotland is terrible though.

He’s only played 365 minutes (2 starts) of football in Scotland - he has scored twice and got one assist. Are you thinking of the correct player?

[Souter96Mac]

Scored a double against Hearts, sign him up

[Stuart93]

Banderson suggesting we’ve knocked back Watford’s first bid for doig. He linked an article which said nothing about a bid though.

Deal worth up to £4m but looks like that was made up of add ons etc. Wouldn’t be surprised if we want more than whatever they’ve offered upfront

[Ray_]

A guy at my work's best mate is a coach at Celtic, says we've expressed an interest in taking Bayo for next season.

A chance to have a look at him.

Thursday 27 May
Toulouse v NANTES Stade du Toulouse Lique 1/2 Play-Off, 1st Leg 19.45 BT Sport 1
Sunday 30 May
NANTES v Toulouse La Beaujoire, Nantes Lique 1/2 Play-Off, 2nd Leg 17.00 BT Sport 3

[Hibernian Verse]

Tribunal isn’t the case as he’s under contract they would have to buy him. Tribunal only comes into play if clubs can’t agree on the development fee / compensation for an out of contract player whom the club offer a new deal on the same or improved terms as the original contract

Apologies, I didn't realise he had a pro contract. I assumed it would still be a youth contract, which can be signed but clubs can still take the players at will with compensation due.

[Centre Hawf]

Daily Record saying that Gardyne and Billy McKay are set to leave Ross County. Wouldn't touch Gardyne but looking at what we have now I wouldn't be overly against McKay coming in as a third choice striker to give us a bit of an option that we've lacked all season and someone who can rotate with the two we have especially since he carries a bit of a goal threat as well.

[CMurdoch]

A chance to have a look at him.

Thursday 27 May
Toulouse v NANTES Stade du Toulouse Lique 1/2 Play-Off, 1st Leg 19.45 BT Sport 1
Sunday 30 May
NANTES v Toulouse La Beaujoire, Nantes Lique 1/2 Play-Off, 2nd Leg 17.00 BT Sport 3

Good call for a wee look.
Has played 24 games this season which is his best total in his career to date so certainly not burnt out.

[CMurdoch]

Daily Record saying that Gardyne and Billy McKay are set to leave Ross County. Wouldn't touch Gardyne but looking at what we have now I wouldn't be overly against McKay coming in as a third choice striker to give us a bit of an option that we've lacked all season and someone who can rotate with the two we have especially since he carries a bit of a goal threat as well.

McKay is 33 in October and his goalscoring is tailing off so a couple of years too late to fit the bill for us.
However, I suspect he has already had a phone call from Tommy Wright.
He scored 20 goals in 34 appearances 3 seasons ago in the Championship and a cheeky wee link up with Lafferty might do the trick for them next season.

Gardyne has been a great servant for Ross County in his 2 spells at the club. Has played 350 games for them and always seemed to be giving his team everything he had in games but at 35 his career is probably over in the top league.

[Centre Hawf]

33 in October and his goalscoring is tailing off so a couple of years too late to fit the bill for us.
However, I suspect he has already had a phone call from Tommy Wright.
He scored 20 goals in 34 appearances 3 seasons ago in the Championship and a cheeky wee link up with Lafferty might do the trick for them next season.

Definitely would like to look elsewhere first but not the worst type of player to bring in for 15 games a season etc. Think you might be right though as he could do well for a team looking to get promoted.

[Brightside]

Banderson suggesting we’ve knocked back Watford’s first bid for doig. He linked an article which said nothing about a bid though.

Deal worth up to £4m but looks like that was made up of add ons etc. Wouldn’t be surprised if we want more than whatever they’ve offered upfront

We did knock back a bid from Watford. It wont be the first or the only one.

[Stuart93]

We did knock back a bid from Watford. It wont be the first or the only one.

Think there’s definitely a deal to be done but think we’ll be looking for a big chunk of the money upfront

[Stuart93]

Motherwell sign Connor Shields from QOTS, could be a decent signing for them think the lads had a good season

His goal return wasn’t the best but think he’s a hard worker

Still wouldn’t signing Devante Cole

[scoopyboy]

A chance to have a look at him.

Thursday 27 May
Toulouse v NANTES Stade du Toulouse Lique 1/2 Play-Off, 1st Leg 19.45 BT Sport 1
Sunday 30 May
NANTES v Toulouse La Beaujoire, Nantes Lique 1/2 Play-Off, 2nd Leg 17.00 BT Sport 3

Thanks for that, thought I was having to go a night without a match.

Bit of an interest now as well

[Dmas]

Banderson suggesting we’ve knocked back Watford’s first bid for doig. He linked an article which said nothing about a bid though.

Deal worth up to £4m but looks like that was made up of add ons etc. Wouldn’t be surprised if we want more than whatever they’ve offered upfront

Watford seem to be offering up a few of these kind of deals so far was the same with Ferguson at aberdeen and they offered 100k for a league 1 player early in the week which was heavily incentivised I can’t mind his name.

They are a stick on for relegation next season the money up front matters IMO even a good sell on clause the player value will drop significantly after relegation

[Edinburgh Green]

Toulouse have an option to buy Bayo, would be surprised if they didn’t take that option.

[CMurdoch]

Toulouse have an option to buy Bayo, would be surprised if they didn’t take that option.

How much?

[04Sauzee]

How much?

Looks like Celtic paid in the region of 2m for him Not sure how much they would hope to recoup.

[bigwheel]

Motherwell sign Connor Shields from QOTS, could be a decent signing for them think the lads had a good season

His goal return wasn’t the best but think he’s a hard worker

Still wouldn’t signing Devante Cole

Wouldn’t have mind adding Shields in to our squad tbh

[Stuart93]

Wouldn’t have mind adding Shields in to our squad tbh

Aye perhaps. It’s a funny one because the quality of the championship was so poor this season so I’ve no idea how they’d get on in our league.

I reckon if shields was very good he would’ve had bigger suitors.

[CMurdoch]

Wouldn’t have mind adding Shields in to our squad tbh

A good signing by Motherwell and a good step up for the player at the age of 24.
It will be interesting to see how he gets on.

[badabing67]

McKay is 33 in October and his goalscoring is tailing off so a couple of years too late to fit the bill for us.
However, I suspect he has already had a phone call from Tommy Wright.
He scored 20 goals in 34 appearances 3 seasons ago in the Championship and a cheeky wee link up with Lafferty might do the trick for them next season.

Gardyne has been a great servant for Ross County in his 2 spells at the club. Has played 350 games for them and always seemed to be giving his team everything he had in games but at 35 his career is probably over in the top league.

Assuming that can keep Lafferty, I think he will leave to play at a higher level imo

[Dazzjw1875]

Looks like Celtic paid in the region of 2m for him Not sure how much they would hope to recoup.

I think he is out of contract is he not?

[CapitalGreen]

I think he is out of contract is he not?

Contracted to Celtic until summer 2022, also wouldn’t be surprised if Celtic have an option for another year which is common for them.

[hibeelovin90]

Wouldn’t have mind adding Shields in to our squad tbh

Should be signing Luke Mccowan, brilliant prospect

[AliboyFC]

Reckon we should sign Andy Carroll he's finished now. :greengrin:greengrin

[JohnM1875]

See Jason Naismith is a free agent now.

Liked him during his spell at Hibs before his injury. Not sure how much or well he played at County though.

[04Sauzee]

See Jason Naismith is a free agent now.

Liked him during his spell at Hibs before his injury. Not sure how much or well he played at County though.
I liked him, others definitely didn't.
Not sure where he fits in with McGinn,Cadden and Boyle.

Realise Boyle plays further up the pitch but has also played wingback at times.

[JohnM1875]

I liked him, others definitely didn't.
Not sure where he fits in with McGinn,Cadden and Boyle.

Realise Boyle plays further up the pitch but has also played wingback at times.

Same, liked him. Both Naismith and McGinn can fill in at CB as well, though neithers preferred position.

Might just be a signing for the sake of signing though. I'd actually forgot all about Cadden. Be glad when he's back.

[Gmack7]

I liked him, others definitely didn't.
Not sure where he fits in with McGinn,Cadden and Boyle.

Realise Boyle plays further up the pitch but has also played wingback at times.

He doesn't fit in now, no way we are signing him imo

[04Sauzee]

He doesn't fit in now, no way we are signing him imo

Sorry was trying to say that I don't think he'd be on our list of signings even although I liked him as a player,so totally agree.

[04Sauzee]

I know it's the Record but McBurnie to Rangers?

Oli McBurnie linked with Rangers career reboot as Ibrox side 'pursue' Scotland cap in big-money transfer

https://t.co/Nlqd8qm8cx https://t.co/BBofE0Rqji

[easty]

I know it's the Record but McBurnie to Rangers?

Oli McBurnie linked with Rangers career reboot as Ibrox side 'pursue' Scotland cap in big-money transfer

https://t.co/Nlqd8qm8cx https://t.co/BBofE0Rqji

No chance Rangers are going to spend £15m on a guy who doesn’t score goals. Even if they could afford it, they wouldn’t.

[CMurdoch]

A chance to have a look at him.

Thursday 27 May
Toulouse v NANTES Stade du Toulouse Lique 1/2 Play-Off, 1st Leg 19.45 BT Sport 1
Sunday 30 May
NANTES v Toulouse La Beaujoire, Nantes Lique 1/2 Play-Off, 2nd Leg 17.00 BT Sport 3

Forgot about it and switched on just after the hour mark just in time to see him being substituted by an English guy Rhys James. I can therefore tell you brussel sprout about his performance today! :greengrin

[CMurdoch]

No chance Rangers are going to spend £15m on a guy who doesn’t score goals. Even if they could afford it, they wouldn’t.

So the same value as Edouard :sauzee::faf:
£6m tops.

[superfurryhibby]

I know it's the Record but McBurnie to Rangers?

Oli McBurnie linked with Rangers career reboot as Ibrox side 'pursue' Scotland cap in big-money transfer

https://t.co/Nlqd8qm8cx https://t.co/BBofE0Rqji

They’d be better off re-signing Kyle Lafferty. Can’t see the Huns having the spending power to pay for Mc Burnie.

[J-C]

Reckon we should sign Andy Carroll he's finished now. :greengrin:greengrin

Thought he was English.

[Souter96Mac]

They’d be better off re-signing Kyle Lafferty. Can’t see the Huns having the spending power to pay for Mc Burnie.

Also reckon Lafferty would score plenty more than McBurnie

[hibsbollah]

A chance to have a look at him.

Thursday 27 May
Toulouse v NANTES Stade du Toulouse Lique 1/2 Play-Off, 1st Leg 19.45 BT Sport 1
Sunday 30 May
NANTES v Toulouse La Beaujoire, Nantes Lique 1/2 Play-Off, 2nd Leg 17.00 BT Sport 3

Subbed off after 62 mins, Toulouse lost the first leg at home 2-1

[Jones28]

I know it's the Record but McBurnie to Rangers?

Oli McBurnie linked with Rangers career reboot as Ibrox side 'pursue' Scotland cap in big-money transfer

https://t.co/Nlqd8qm8cx https://t.co/BBofE0Rqji

That would be a superb signing for the rest of Scottish Football. He's ****ing useless.

[04Sauzee]

St Mirren linked with Chris Burke

[Souter96Mac]

St Mirren linked with Chris Burke

Still had a very good season last year considering he's 38 in December, scoring 9 and assisting 9 in all comps.

Maybe a good fit for St Mirren with all the youth they seem to have in their squad. But can't see him keeping those figures going into next year

[CMurdoch]

St Mirren linked with Chris Burke

He has been remarkable in both fitness and performance at Killie but I can't help but feel that at 38 he will begin to tail off now.

[CMurdoch]

Ex Hibs keeper Ross Laidlaw who was Ross County player and players player of the season has been rewarded with a new 2 year contract.
He did a decent job at Hibs when called upon and has managed to step it up and make the keepers spot his own at RC.
Hope Oli Shaw can make similar progress next season under a new manager.
The ex Hibs pair are 40% of the players currently contracted at RC for next season!

[badabing67]

Ex Hibs keeper Ross Laidlaw who was Ross County player and players player of the season has been rewarded with a new 2 year contract.
He did a decent job at Hibs when called upon and has managed to step it up and make the keepers spot his own at RC.
Hope Oli Shaw can make similar progress next season.

Does anyone know why Yogi left County.

[Callum_62]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/christian-ramirez-tracked-aberdeen-stephen-24201341

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[HibbyAndy]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/christian-ramirez-tracked-aberdeen-stephen-24201341

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Never realized we were in for him

[CraigHibee]

Ex Hibs keeper Ross Laidlaw who was Ross County player and players player of the season has been rewarded with a new 2 year contract.
He did a decent job at Hibs when called upon and has managed to step it up and make the keepers spot his own at RC.
Hope Oli Shaw can make similar progress next season under a new manager.
The ex Hibs pair are 40% of the players currently contracted at RC for next season!

definitely thought laidlaw was a good keeper for us when he was needed, with rocky in the team at that point he was going to be hard pushed to be a permanent starter

[Since452]

Ex Hibs keeper Ross Laidlaw who was Ross County player and players player of the season has been rewarded with a new 2 year contract.
He did a decent job at Hibs when called upon and has managed to step it up and make the keepers spot his own at RC.
Hope Oli Shaw can make similar progress next season under a new manager.
The ex Hibs pair are 40% of the players currently contracted at RC for next season!

Nothing against Oli Shaw or anyone else that once played for us but couldn't care less how they get on at Ross County

[Callum_62]

Never realized we were in for himAre we?

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[green day]

Are we?

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No, it was just tongue in cheek ragarding Aberdeen always chasing our targets :greengrin

[Souter96Mac]

Bold if Glass and Aberdeen focus on bringing in players from the US. I know they have the partnership, and you could generally say this about any transfer but it could come at a price, and no guarantee they'll settle over here - that Hernandez as a good example.

[CMurdoch]

Nothing against Oli Shaw or anyone else that once played for us but couldn't care less how they get on at Ross County

I take an interest in all things Scottish football and know some posters on here are interested how players that previously played for hibs are getting on so I, as others do, post information relevant to that when I come across it. I think one of the reasons folk are interested is because it's fun to see how our own assessment of an ex players ability and that of our club stacks up. In Hibs case they have been pretty on the ball with those they have let go.
Shaw happens to be the most recent player to leave Hibs where supporters opinions were split on whether it was the right decision and by watching his progress or otherwise we can see if we know our onions or not.

If you don't care that's fine. Seeing as you are sharing what you don't care about, I can tell you I don't care about the angry posters* who have been boring us to death for 6 days now. As everyone knows, if we weren't there it didn't happen, so it didn't happen and we move on. European draw in less than 3 weeks!

* not you

[CMurdoch]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/christian-ramirez-tracked-aberdeen-stephen-24201341

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He would continue their over 30's and no resale value signing theme

[HibbyAndy]

Are we?

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No, it was just tongue in cheek ragarding Aberdeen always chasing our targets :greengrin


Sorry :thumbsup::thumbsup:

:greengrin

[Bangkok Hibby]

I take an interest in all things Scottish football and know some posters on here are interested how players that previously played for hibs are getting on so I, as others do, post information relevant to that when I come across it. I think one of the reasons folk are interested is because it's fun to see how our own assessment of an ex players ability and that of our club stacks up. In Hibs case they have been pretty on the ball with those they have let go.
Shaw happens to be the most recent player to leave Hibs where supporters opinions were split on whether it was the right decision and by watching his progress or otherwise we can see if we know our onions or not.

If you don't care that's fine. Seeing as you are sharing what you don't care about, I can tell you I don't care about the angry posters* who have been boring us to death for 6 days now. As everyone knows, if we weren't there it didn't happen, so it didn't happen and we move on. European draw in less than 3 weeks!

* not you

Valid post 👍🏻 I've always liked Oli Shaw and hoped we'd keep him. He did us no harm so hope his career blossoms.

Kamberi however......🙂

[Tyler Durden]

Ex Hibs keeper Ross Laidlaw who was Ross County player and players player of the season has been rewarded with a new 2 year contract.
He did a decent job at Hibs when called upon and has managed to step it up and make the keepers spot his own at RC.
Hope Oli Shaw can make similar progress next season under a new manager.
The ex Hibs pair are 40% of the players currently contracted at RC for next season!

Shaw had a good season this year. 8 goals in 31 games - his goals per minutes ratio continues to be up there with best records in the league. Also top 5 for goals per shots on target.

His numbers are good but similar to his time at Hibs he's not starting enough games. Is he generally under appreciated or would his stats suffer if he started 38 games????? That's the question which we'll probably never answer!

[Bangkok Hibby]

Shaw had a good season this year. 8 goals in 31 games - his goals per minutes ratio continues to be up there with best records in the league. Also top 5 for goals per shots on target.

His numbers are good but similar to his time at Hibs he's not starting enough games. Is he generally under appreciated or would his stats suffer if he started 38 games????? That's the question which we'll probably never answer!

I could never understand why he didnt get more starts. Is it as simple as he's just not impressive in training?

[.Sean.]

I could never understand why he didnt get more starts. Is it as simple as he's just not impressive in training?
He wasn’t good enough to be quite blunt. There’s your reason

[calumhibee1]

He wasn’t good enough to be quite blunt. There’s your reason

:agree:

[Stuart93]

He wasn’t good enough to be quite blunt. There’s your reason

Correct. Another one of those players who’s continued to get better in people’s minds since he’s left

[Bangkok Hibby]

Correct. Another one of those players who’s continued to get better in people’s minds since he’s left

Not saying he's got better but would have kept him.

[Tyler Durden]

Correct. Another one of those players who’s continued to get better in people’s minds since he’s left

I don't actually think that's right to be honest.

He had a good record at Hibs for goals but his all round play wasn't as effective as our other options. He now finds himself in pretty much the same situation at Ross County albeit he'll start more games.

Would still be a good squad player for Hibs but wasn't good enough to be first choice. Don't think anyone is really claiming otherwise since he's gone.

[Jones28]

Not saying he's got better but would have kept him.

He's a really accomplished finisher who scored some great goals for us.

Gullane needs to be that option next season IMO.

[Bangkok Hibby]

He's a really accomplished finisher who scored some great goals for us.

Gullane needs to be that option next season IMO.

I agree, hope he's not another we let go.

[Stuart93]

He's a really accomplished finisher who scored some great goals for us.

Gullane needs to be that option next season IMO.

He’s not an accomplished finisher imo. Amongst a few goals for us he missed some amount of chances. The league cup game against Aberdeen at ER sticks out in my mind in particular

[Bangkok Hibby]

He’s not an accomplished finisher imo. Amongst a few goals for us he missed some amount of chances. The league cup game against Aberdeen at ER sticks out in my mind in particular

Think we have a few current players who have missed some chances surely? He's a decent forward.

[Stuart93]

Think we have a few current players who have missed some chances surely? He's a decent forward.

I’m not saying we don’t, my point is Oli Shaw isn’t an accomplished finisher.

And Nisbet & Doidge are a lot better.

[Bangkok Hibby]

I’m not saying we don’t, my point is Oli Shaw isn’t an accomplished finisher.

And Nisbet & Doidge are a lot better.

OK no problem, we all have our opinions. I'm not saying Shaw is better than Doidge but Doidge can't possibly be called an accomplished finisher. I point you to his many skelfs, air shots, mis jumps to put headers well wide or over the bar. Again not saying Doidge is a bad player but all I'm saying is Shaw could still be doing a job at Hibs

[DetroitHibs]

Shaw is nowhere near what we need if aspirations are the top end of the table and Europe. He's at Ross County for a reason and struggling to get a game recently. There's a pretty good reason for that.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Shaw is nowhere near what we need if aspirations are the top end of the table and Europe. He's at Ross County for a reason and struggling to get a game recently. There's a pretty good reason for that.

I probably agree and I don't think that's what we're arguing for. Just think he could have done a job for us and was released too soon.

[Stuart93]

OK no problem, we all have our opinions. I'm not saying Shaw is better than Doidge but Doidge can't possibly be called an accomplished finisher. I point you to his many skelfs, air shots, mis jumps to put headers well wide or over the bar. Again not saying Doidge is a bad player but all I'm saying is Shaw could still be doing a job at Hibs

I haven’t called Doidge an accomplished finisher?

He’s more of a goalscorer than shaw though and a better all round player

It’s not really important though

[Fergus52]

I’m not saying we don’t, my point is Oli Shaw isn’t an accomplished finisher.

And Nisbet & Doidge are a lot better.

For this level he really is.

All good strikers miss chances, pretty sure Shaw's shot conversion rate has been up there with the best in the league while at both hibs and county.

It's the rest of his game that lets him down imo.

[brog]

For this level he really is.

All good strikers miss chances, pretty sure Shaw's shot conversion rate has been up there with the best in the league while at both hibs and county.

It's the rest of his game that lets him down imo.

Agreed! If we had a combo of Doidge's work rate, strength & hold up ability combined with Oli's finishing then that would be a top player.

[CMurdoch]

I agree, hope he's not another we let go.

A big season for Gullan.
He will turn 22 in 5 weeks time and will be in the final year of his contract.
Good luck Jamie

[MyJo]

I probably agree and I don't think that's what we're arguing for. Just think he could have done a job for us and was released too soon.

He wasnt released, we got offered a fee for him and he wanted to go rather than being 4th choice striker with us.

im sure i read at the time we werent going to sell him but it was Oli himself who pushed for the deal to happen

[bingo70]

https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/news/2120352/under-23s-retained-and-released-list-confirmed

Sorry if that’s been posted already but I wonder if we’ll see any of the Brighton players released coming in.

Not being good enough for the Premiership isn’t the same as not being good enough for us, they’ll know all about those you g players and wouldn’t surprise me if they’re recommended to us, even if it’s just to get them in to train.

[brog]

https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/news/2120352/under-23s-retained-and-released-list-confirmed

Sorry if that’s been posted already but I wonder if we’ll see any of the Brighton players released coming in.

Not being good enough for the Premiership isn’t the same as not being good enough for us, they’ll know all about those you g players and wouldn’t surprise me if they’re recommended to us, even if it’s just to get them in to train.
The players who have been released now have no connection to Brighton so there's no reason we would have any inside advantage in signing them. If we get anyone from Brighton, and I'm sceptical, much more likely IMO to be younger players who Brighton want to send on a development assignment.

[Alfred E Newman]

Correct. Another one of those players who’s continued to get better in people’s minds since he’s left

Like David Wotherspoon?

[bingo70]

The players who have been released now have no connection to Brighton so there's no reason we would have any inside advantage in signing them. If we get anyone from Brighton, and I'm sceptical, much more likely IMO to be younger players who Brighton want to send on a development assignment.

I disagree.

Brighton might rate these guys but just no place for them in the first team squad, they could quite easily give us the heads up that they’re worth taking a look at. Similarly they could vouch for us being a good, well run club to the players.

Maybe not relevant to this group of youngsters but I think Brighton attracting young players by saying if you don’t cut it at Brighton we could get your foot in the door at another club at not as high a level would be appealing to a youngster. Means they’ve effectively got the chance to make it at 2 clubs.

That was my understanding of one of the points of this link up.

[Stuart93]

Like David Wotherspoon?

Yep he wasn’t good enough for us when he left and probably still isn’t. If we were to sign him now people would be underwhelmed.

[Greenbeard]

Like David Wotherspoon?
Beat me to it.

[Greenbeard]

Yep he wasn’t good enough for us when he left and probably still isn’t. If we were to sign him now people would be underwhelmed.
Outperformed all our meh midfielders last Sat.

[S4uzee]

Outperformed all our meh midfielders last Sat.

Wasn’t really difficult was it, heartless bunch

[Stuart93]

Outperformed all our meh midfielders last Sat.

He did, that wasn’t difficult though

Are you trying to tell me you’d be excited at the thought of resigning wotherspoon?

[Nicho87]

He did, that wasn’t difficult though

Are you trying to tell me you’d be excited at the thought of resigning wotherspoon?

Gogic is still jumping in the air to try and block the cross

[Stuart93]

Gogic is still jumping in the air to try and block the cross

Most likely is yes.

You want a shot at the question I asked?

[brog]

I disagree.

Brighton might rate these guys but just no place for them in the first team squad, they could quite easily give us the heads up that they’re worth taking a look at. Similarly they could vouch for us being a good, well run club to the players.

Maybe not relevant to this group of youngsters but I think Brighton attracting young players by saying if you don’t cut it at Brighton we could get your foot in the door at another club at not as high a level would be appealing to a youngster. Means they’ve effectively got the chance to make it at 2 clubs.

That was my understanding of one of the points of this link up.

I think you misunderstood it.

[Stuart93]

[Deleted]

You stay classy now fella

[bingo70]

I think you misunderstood it.

Maybe I did but I don’t see it as an agreement where we will just get loan players off them.

I think the clubs working together includes the youth set up and the scouting of players at that level. IMO there’s bound to be a bit cross over with players not quite good enough for them but then recommended to us.

[500miles]

Wotherspoon would probably improve our team. Not because he's a great player -he is a good player - but because we don't have a ball carrier who can beat a man in midfield.

We don't lack quality, just a bit of variety.

[brog]

Maybe I did but I don’t see it as an agreement where we will just get loan players off them.

I think the clubs working together includes the youth set up and the scouting of players at that level. IMO there’s bound to be a bit cross over with players not quite good enough for them but then recommended to us.

Apologies if I sounded a bit short there, not intended. Trying to do several things at once. I like your thought but I honestly think you're giving far too much credit to football clubs. I doubt there are many who harbour altruistic feelings or aftercare to what are essentially ex employees. There's thousands of players released every year, Brighton, & every other club's focus will be on developing those who remain at the club,

[cabbageandribs1875]

is he that good :confused:

Manchester City have reportedly made Jack Grealish their top midfield target and are prepared to make the Aston Villa playmaker English football’s first £100million player.


Premier League giant to make history by signing Grealish in £100m deal (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/transfers/premier-league-giant-to-make-history-by-signing-grealish-in-100m-deal/ar-AAKtuHo?ocid=msedgntp)


and...

Meanwhile, reports in Scotland claim Liverpool have taken Hibernian teenager Ethan Laidlaw on trial this week in a bid to steal a march on their rivals.
The 16-year-old has caught the eye playing in the Hibs youth teams and has yet to make his senior debut. A number of clubs have been alerted to the striker’s talents, with Leeds United already taking him on trial. And Manchester United recently showed their hand (https://www.teamtalk.com/news/man-utd-make-move-highly-touted-hibernian-striker-despite-leeds-trial), expressing a wish to check out the youngster at close quarters.

Laidlaw (https://www.teamtalk.com/tag/ethan-laidlaw) is a Hibs fan and so it would be a wrench to leave his boyhood club. Hibs do not want to sell the starlet, who penned his first professional deal earlier this season.
But the lure of playing for one of the biggest clubs in Europe will be tough to resist. The extent of City’s interest is not known but the route to the Etihad first team would be tough.



stay with the hibs for another few years young man :)

[Magpie]

is he that good :confused:

Manchester City have reportedly made Jack Grealish their top midfield target and are prepared to make the Aston Villa playmaker English football’s first £100million player.


Premier League giant to make history by signing Grealish in £100m deal (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/transfers/premier-league-giant-to-make-history-by-signing-grealish-in-100m-deal/ar-AAKtuHo?ocid=msedgntp)


and...

Meanwhile, reports in Scotland claim Liverpool have taken Hibernian teenager Ethan Laidlaw on trial this week in a bid to steal a march on their rivals.
The 16-year-old has caught the eye playing in the Hibs youth teams and has yet to make his senior debut. A number of clubs have been alerted to the striker’s talents, with Leeds United already taking him on trial. And Manchester United recently showed their hand (https://www.teamtalk.com/news/man-utd-make-move-highly-touted-hibernian-striker-despite-leeds-trial), expressing a wish to check out the youngster at close quarters.

Laidlaw (https://www.teamtalk.com/tag/ethan-laidlaw) is a Hibs fan and so it would be a wrench to leave his boyhood club. Hibs do not want to sell the starlet, who penned his first professional deal earlier this season.
But the lure of playing for one of the biggest clubs in Europe will be tough to resist. The extent of City’s interest is not known but the route to the Etihad first team would be tough.



stay with the hibs for another few years young man :)

Has anyone seen Ethan play? Must have a bit about him for those clubs to be keen on him.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Has anyone seen Ethan play? Must have a bit about him for those clubs to be keen on him.



having a host of big clubs after the boy, what a high that must be for him, i'm sure his parents will keep his feet firmly on the ground but myself at that age all i would see would be £££ signs, much like the dude we had on loan from chelsea did

[Nicho87]

You stay classy now fella

Keep on clapping

[Big_Franck]

having a host of big clubs after the boy, what a high that must be for him, i'm sure his parents will keep his feet firmly on the ground but myself at that age all i would see would be £££ signs, much like the dude we had on loan from chelsea did

Hopefully he doesn't do what the majority of Scottish youngsters do and goes to England and disappears. He'd be much better off playing first team football with us and then moving when he's maybe 19. He'd then be moving with a good bit of experience that gives him a much better chance of hitting the ground running when he joins one of those big clubs. He'd also be more mature and better able to handle being away from home.

[Greenbeard]

He did, that wasn’t difficult though

Are you trying to tell me you’d be excited at the thought of resigning wotherspoon?
No, re-signing Wotherspoon would not excite me. But neither will I be excited if we have exactly the same midfield options for next season as currently. I was just responding to you saying DW wasn't (isn't) good enough for Hibs. After his performance last Sat ergo all our current midfielders are not good enough for Hibs. Said it elsewhere, we do not have the right blend and I'm all for offloading two from the current 8/9 to use the £ this will free up to get in one who will be a significant improvement with potential for a good sell-on in 2-3 years time. TBH I'd take Ferguson off the Sheep's hands (hooves).

[Lago]

Hopefully he doesn't do what the majority of Scottish youngsters do and goes to England and disappears. He'd be much better off playing first team football with us and then moving when he's maybe 19. He'd then be moving with a good bit of experience that gives him a much better chance of hitting the ground running when he joins one of those big clubs. He'd also be more mature and better able to handle being away from home.
Gilmour left rangers for Chelsea and certainly didn't disappear

[Big_Franck]

Gilmour left rangers for Chelsea and certainly didn't disappear

Yep, that's why I said the majority and not all.

[SaulGoodman]

Keep on clapping

In defence of Stuart93.. have you seen his posts? :hilarious

[Peevemor]

In defence of Stuart93.. have you seen his posts? :hilariousEverything's relative! [emoji1787]

[brog]

Gilmour left rangers for Chelsea and certainly didn't disappear

Billy G started 3 league games last season. He didn't disappear but he's not highly visible. If he wasn't Scottish we wouldn't notice him.

[AgentDaleCooper]

Gilmour left rangers for Chelsea and certainly didn't disappear

i can't think of anyone else who hasn't disappeared though. maybe darren fletcher counts, but that's pretty much going back 20 years.

if he's that good, then staying at hibs will provide his career with a solid foundation.

[04Sauzee]

Billy G started 3 league games last season. He didn't disappear but he's not highly visible. If he wasn't Scottish we wouldn't notice him.

Had quite a time out with injury

[04Sauzee]

Somebody mentioned this guy earlier as someone we should be looking at.

EXCLUSIVE: Dundee and Dundee United locked in a battle for Ayr’s Luke McCowan https://t.co/5macvTqAET https://t.co/SlJ2MuynXr

[cabbageandribs1875]

Hopefully he doesn't do what the majority of Scottish youngsters do and goes to England and disappears. He'd be much better off playing first team football with us and then moving when he's maybe 19. He'd then be moving with a good bit of experience that gives him a much better chance of hitting the ground running when he joins one of those big clubs. He'd also be more mature and better able to handle being away from home.


i'm now thinking the fact he's going on trial at all those clubs he/the parents are quite willing to move :(

[Since90+2]

i'm now thinking the fact he's going on trial at all those clubs he/the parents are quite willing to move :(

It could be the case the clubs buy him but then loan him back to develop further here for a year or two?

[cabbageandribs1875]

It could be the case the clubs buy him but then loan him back to develop further here for a year or two?

good shout, i take it they would pay all his salary if they did send him back here to develop

[Brightside]

Yep, that's why I said the majority and not all.

There is a growing feeling that getting a talented 16 year old into the top clubs early will provide the best chance of bringing them on to the next level.

[Souter96Mac]

Somebody mentioned this guy earlier as someone we should be looking at.

EXCLUSIVE: Dundee and Dundee United locked in a battle for Ayr’s Luke McCowan https://t.co/5macvTqAET https://t.co/SlJ2MuynXr

Scored 9 goals last season from wide. Never seen the lad play, but we could do with more goals from other positions

[Lago]

:aok:
Had quite a time out with injury

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Middlesbrough released a few decent players this week. Marvin Johnson a winger that was at motherwell for a spell looked good.

Assombalonga released too although I'd imagine he's destined for much bigger pay days than we could afford

[Dmas]

Jordan Forster is Thommo’s first signing for kelty

[Souter96Mac]

Middlesbrough released a few decent players this week. Marvin Johnson a winger that was at motherwell for a spell looked good.

Assombalonga released too although I'd imagine he's destined for much bigger pay days than we could afford

I was surprised when I found out Johnson's only 30. I thought he'd be older.

Boro fans seem disappointed he's not been kept on.

[Billy Whizz]

Jordan Forster is Thommo’s first signing for kelty

Are any of the players at Kelty full time

[ScottB]

i'm now thinking the fact he's going on trial at all those clubs he/the parents are quite willing to move :(

To be fair, they’d be daft not to at the least explore it!

[Brightside]

****e looks like a player. Tam McManus reckons he’s underrated.

[oneone73]

****e looks like a player. Tam McManus reckons he’s underrated.

Who?

[04Sauzee]

EXCLUSIVE: Celtic ace Ryan Christie targeted by Southampton as Premier League side eye cut-price deal

https://t.co/u3LloqDbB8 https://t.co/MsMtTg2yvJ

[HibbyAndy]

****e looks like a player. Tam McManus reckons he’s underrated.

:confused:

[Souter96Mac]

:confused:

Maybe talking about N'Golo K for Chelsea last night.

[Peevemor]

Maybe talking about N'Golo K for Chelsea last night.I'm not sure anyone underrates him.

[HibbyAndy]

Maybe talking about N'Golo K for Chelsea last night.

No sure he's underrated

[CropleyWasGod]

Who?

Thought everyone knew McManus. Played for us a few times.

[HibbyAndy]

Thought everyone knew McManus. Played for us a few times.

Member his screamer at Ibrox :not worth

[Brightside]

No sure he's underrated

That’s the point.

[hibee-boys]

EXCLUSIVE: Celtic ace Ryan Christie targeted by Southampton as Premier League side eye cut-price deal

https://t.co/u3LloqDbB8 https://t.co/MsMtTg2yvJ

The mighty Glasgow Celtic.....invincibles, best fans in the world blah, blah, blah.....now Southampton’s feeder club😂

[Col2]

Griffiths again linked by EEN

https://twitter.com/edinburghsport/status/1399236699528462341?s=21

[BILLYHIBS]

Bring him home

[Bostonhibby]

The mighty Glasgow Celtic.....invincibles, best fans in the world blah, blah, blah.....now Southampton’s feeder club[emoji23][emoji3]

Celtc have been Southampton's feeder club for ages.

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[Billy Whizz]

[emoji3]

Celtc have been Southampton's feeder club for ages.

Sent from my SM-A750FN using Tapatalk

Sold them a few over recent years

[hibsbollah]

Griffiths again linked by EEN

https://twitter.com/edinburghsport/status/1399236699528462341?s=21

:hyper

[#2 Double Tap]

:hyper

[SaulGoodman]

:hyper

[Northernhibee]

:hyper

[calumhibee1]

Would certainly feel a lot more confident going into the big games with a striker like Griffiths :agree:

[bingo70]

Would certainly feel a lot more confident going into the big games with a striker like Griffiths :agree:

I still have a hunch he’ll go to Dundee.

[CMurdoch]

Griffiths again linked by EEN

https://twitter.com/edinburghsport/status/1399236699528462341?s=21

There is zero information in that story.
What is significant about today is that Celric stop paying Leigh today and he ceases to be a Celtic player today.
Similarly Jackson Irvine at Hibs.

[scoopyboy]

There is zero information in that story.
What is significant about today is that Celric stop paying Leigh today and he ceases to be a Celtic player today.
Similarly Jackson Irvine at Hibs.

I agree, have to print something.

[superfurryhibby]

I ask myself, is gambling on Griffith's fitness and well being any riskier, especially considering the potential reward, than offering contracts to guys recovering from serious injury?

My conclusion is that we should be getting him signed up.

[Percy Vere]

Wotherspoon would probably improve our team. Not because he's a great player -he is a good player - but because we don't have a ball carrier who can beat a man in midfield.

We don't lack quality, just a bit of variety.

Murphy
Boyle
Potentially Magennis when he gets going

[HibbyAndy]

There is zero information in that story.
What is significant about today is that Celric stop paying Leigh today and he ceases to be a Celtic player today.
Similarly Jackson Irvine at Hibs.

If Hibs are in for him i'd say out the 2 clubs we would be in pole position to sign him up , Hibs fan and offer more in wages

[Peevemor]

I ask myself, is gambling on Griffith's fitness and well being any riskier, especially considering the potential reward, than offering contracts to guys recovering from serious injury?

My conclusion is that we should be getting him signed up.

100%.

Going into next season with Doidge & Griffiths as our 1st choice strikers would suit me fine.

[jacomo]

There is a growing feeling that getting a talented 16 year old into the top clubs early will provide the best chance of bringing them on to the next level.


And the loan system enables top clubs to stockpile talent and then control the careers of countless young players.

As a very minimum, we need to ban loan signings within the same division again.

[superfurryhibby]

100%.

Going into next season with Doidge & Griffiths as our 1st choice strikers would suit me fine.

Given the limits imposed by our budget, Hibs do have to gamble sometimes with signings in order to get the talent we want. Last season we did that with Murphy, Magennis and Wright, all recovering from serious injury. Signing Leigh is probably in the same category, but with different circumstances. Getting him on board would be a huge boost for the fans and help the player himself get prepared for his second coming (nae pressure Leigh).

Doidge and Griffiths would offer a tremendous first choice front two, assuming that Nisbet will be offski (which I think is a given).

[bingo70]

Given the limits imposed by our budget, Hibs do have to gamble sometimes with signings in order to get the talent we want. Last season we did that with Murphy, Magennis and Wright, all recovering from serious injury. Signing Leigh is probably in the same category, but with different circumstances. Getting him on board would be a huge boost for the fans and help the player himself get prepared for his second coming (nae pressure Leigh).

Doidge and Griffiths would offer a tremendous first choice front two, assuming that Nisbet will be offski (which I think is a given).

Im not convinced anybody will bid what we want for Nisbet.