NFL/NCAA (American Football)

[hibsbollah]

4 mins to go.
Bengals select Tebow.

[hibsbollah]

Burrow and Young obviously...but first interesting pick is in. Lions at #3 take Jeff Okudah CB.

Giants take Tackle Andrew Thomas in the first leftfield pick at 4. Do Dolphins take Tua at 5? Yes! Chargers take Herbert.

Apart from the Tackle at 4, No surprises or trades so far. 3 big QBs all gone.

Derrick Brown to Carolina
Isaiah Simmons Arizona#8 The footage of him his absolutely insane. Looks like a Honey Badger type.

Browns pick that T from Bama at 10.

Now it should be receiver time.

Jets take this behemoth Bekton at Tackle. at 11
Ruggs to the Raiders at 12. I like Ruggs mom telling off family members on the sofa :faf:

Buccs move up on the 49ers one place, take another tackle Wirfs who was projected to go at 4 in some mocks.

[Haymaker]

Another boring draft for The Patriots.

Now, some of those choices by other teams were amazing!

[HibernianJK]

Most teams with solid day 1’s. Jags and San Fran with good days.

Giants confusing again although top 4 tackles are close most people had Thomas as the bottom of those 4. And the Raiders picks are very confusing Ruggs was the 3rd best receiver on every single board I saw and the second pick was even more confusing.

Delighted Burrow to Bengals finally confirmed after pretty much everyone in the media try to make it not happen. Think I might just get my first jersey.

Looking forward to day 2!

[Pretty Boy]

Happy with our first day dealings. The first 2 picks were for positions we needed to sort and we done it quickly and efficiently. Sensible trade down to 30, a loss of 4 places for a 4th round pick and we picked up a well rated CB. Probably not our most pressing need but the reasoning behind it was explained; 'you take the best player on the board'.

D'Andre Swift early tonight and I'll be happy.

[hibsbollah]

Seattle takes a player they dont seem to have a need for, who wasnt projected to go till round 3, and who nobody else was talking about :dunno:

Still, who knows. Russel Wilson was supposed to be a strange pick at the time too. Im tired after that and i still need to go to work:rolleyes:

[nellio]

Jerry Jeudy at 15. Delighted!

[lugz]

Eagles fans kicking off about not trading up ahead of dallas for lamb, personally don't think its that simple.

Happy to see how this guy does, meant to have plenty speed and dangerous in the open field.

[Haymaker]

A safety from Lenoir-Rhyne? I've never even heard of that school.

[StevesFamau5]

Eagles fans kicking off about not trading up ahead of dallas for lamb, personally don't think its that simple.

Happy to see how this guy does, meant to have plenty speed and dangerous in the open field.With you on that one.

Interesting choice picking Jalen. I like the kid and it's going to be interesting watching him develop in the Philly offence. Dual threat could be useful.

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[hibsbollah]

QB Jacob Eason still on the board.

[Haymaker]

QB Jacob Eason still on the board.

Fromm too unless I am reading things wrong.

[Sylar]

A safety from Lenoir-Rhyne? I've never even heard of that school.

I work in the sector and neither have I! A division 2 school...

I've really got no expectations for the coming year ahead - genuinely think we're entering complete rebuild territory now, and it'll be interesting to see where we go post-Tom.

It would not surprise me one bit if both Buffalo and Miami finished above us this coming season - both seem to be putting very good squads together.

[Haymaker]

I work in the sector and neither have I! A division 2 school...

I've really got no expectations for the coming year ahead - genuinely think we're entering complete rebuild territory now, and it'll be interesting to see where we go post-Tom.

It would not surprise me one bit if both Buffalo and Miami finished above us this coming season - both seem to be putting very good squads together.

I had to Google it.

We've got track record of undrafted/unknown players but this one seems weird to take in round 2.

A lot of Defense picks but that's not surprising with our ageing D.

[Pretty Boy]

A guard, a DL and a safety in the 2ne round for us. All make sense.

I would have liked a running back as it was a pretty decent class but you need to build the line first. We brought in Jordan Howard in FA so if he can recapture his pro bowl form it might allow us to bring in a project with a late round pick.

[Pretty Boy]

Matt Breida to Miami for a 4th round pick. If he stays healthy that's a good deal for us.

[hibsbollah]

Eason goes to the Colts.
Fromm to the Bills.

Both decent moves for each player, with starting QBs at both franchises who, if not exactly on a shoogly peg, are certainly not marquee starters.

But i havent recognised another player except those two since the second round:greengrin Time to turn it off.

[HoboHarry]

Yeez are aw squabbling over the crumbs. We've got the only show in town, Patrick Mahomes....... :greengrin

[Sylar]

No wonder Develin's chosen to retire - he probably took a look at our off-season business and thought "**** this".

Bizarre draft from us and nothing much to be excited by IMO. Two undrafted QBs...despite the quality that was available at that position...
On the plus side, at least Cam won't be coming to Foxborough.

[hibsbollah]

Jerry Jeudy at 15. Delighted!

Ive watched some of his film, he looks like a NFL player already.

[NOLA]

Jameis Winston confirms his signing with the Saints! Not sure how I feel about this tbh, he can reset and learn under Brees/Payton and he’s still only 26yo, he’s got the talent no doubt but can his bad traits be eradicated just by training with a better group? We won’t know until he steps on the field again as a starter.


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[Sergio sledge]

Jameis Winston confirms his signing with the Saints! Not sure how I feel about this tbh, he can reset and learn under Brees/Payton and he’s still only 26yo, he’s got the talent no doubt but can his bad traits be eradicated just by training with a better group? We won’t know until he steps on the field again as a starter.


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He just threw a 5000 yard season, if he could just look after the ball better he'd be top quality IMHO.

Crazy stat that he has more career completions to Saints players than Taysom Hill....

[NOLA]

He just threw a 5000 yard season, if he could just look after the ball better he'd be top quality IMHO.

Crazy stat that he has more career completions to Saints players than Taysom Hill....

I thought that was a Twitter joke but turns out it’s possibly true https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o6Zt62PeJeFUDwBUI/giphy.gif


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[Pretty Boy]

The Dolphins selected Malcolm Perry from the Navy in the 7rh round. He played QB last season but was previously used as a slot receiver but was drafted as a RB. Figure that out. I knew very little about him but watching his highlights video I can't wait to see what is planned for him.

https://youtu.be/pIA_QvZctjc

[Sergio sledge]

I thought that was a Twitter joke but turns out it’s possibly true https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o6Zt62PeJeFUDwBUI/giphy.gif


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Winston has thrown 10 interceptions Vs Saints in his career, Hill has 7 completions so far....

[HibernianJK]

Andy Dalton released by the Bengals. A great pro but just couldn’t get the Bengals over that playoff hump. Makes sense now Burrow is on board.

Will sign somewhere pretty quickly I’d imagine now teams don’t have to give up a draft pick. Should still have plenty in the tank and good health record.

[Sylar]

I'm quietly hoping Dalton comes to New England, TBH. Not confident he will, but I think he'd be a good addition to help with the continuing development of Stidham.

[hibsbollah]

I'm quietly hoping Dalton comes to New England, TBH. Not confident he will, but I think he'd be a good addition to help with the continuing development of Stidham.

You know your franchise is in trouble when youre hoping for Andy Dalton:greengrin

[nellio]

Ive watched some of his film, he looks like a NFL player already.

Read about him a lot. His route running is supposedly top notch already. Only going to get better as well.

[Haymaker]

You know your franchise is in trouble when youre hoping for Andy Dalton:greengrin

Tank For Trev!

[Sylar]

You know your franchise is in trouble when youre hoping for Andy Dalton:greengrin

It was already in trouble when we brought back Brian Hoyer...

[HibernianJK]

Has anyone actually seen any of Stidham? Could it be a low key tank for a decent QB in next years draft? Tom Brady struggled a bit with that offence last season and with a brand new untested QB it could really struggle to get off the ground.

[Haymaker]

Has anyone actually seen any of Stidham? Could it be a low key tank for a decent QB in next years draft? Tom Brady struggled a bit with that offence last season and with a brand new untested QB it could really struggle to get off the ground.

He came out last season in the 4th when we were cruising and threw an INT and then Brady came back out.

Tank For Trev!

[Haymaker]

You know your franchise is in trouble when youre hoping for Andy Dalton:greengrin

And Dalton joins The Cowgirls!

Tank For Trev! Tank For Trev!

[Sylar]

Has anyone actually seen any of Stidham? Could it be a low key tank for a decent QB in next years draft? Tom Brady struggled a bit with that offence last season and with a brand new untested QB it could really struggle to get off the ground.

He looked decent in our pre-season games last year, but struggled the one time he came into a regular season game (as Haymaker already mentioned).

Having said that, our offense struggled in general last year, so it's no real surprise. I saw him a couple of times with Auburn and he looked like a great young QB then.

[HibernianJK]

Dallas is a great landing spot for Dalton. Good move all round I think. Not a massive fan of the Cowboys but hope he has success there.

[Just_Jimmy]

Anyone that thinks little bill will tank is nuts. He's 44 wins from shulas record. He's a born winner. If they get the 1st overall pick it'll not be deliberate.

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[Sylar]

Anyone that thinks little bill will tank is nuts. He's 44 wins from shulas record. He's a born winner. If they get the 1st overall pick it'll not be deliberate.

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While I agree, his off-season trades and draft strategy have been utterly bizarre.

He's gotten us this far, so I'm curious to see what we look like this year. With so many regulars now gone, it's going to be interesting.

He must be happy with Stidham, as he's passing on every single QB that's come to market.

[Pretty Boy]

Don Shula has died age 90:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article242480281.html

[Haymaker]

Schedules are out... let's Tank For Trev!

[Sylar]

Don Shula has died age 90:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article242480281.html

I only just saw that a couple of days ago. Very sad news indeed. Architect of Miami's greatest ever seasons, and an absolute gentleman to boot. He's a genuine legend in the game, and I personally can't see BB beating his record.


Schedules are out... let's Tank For Trev!

I don't think we'll need to 'tank' - just look at that away schedule. Seahawks week 2...*shudder*.

7-9 at best.

[hibsbollah]

Don Shula has died age 90:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article242480281.html

Yes, a great of the game. He was coaching the dolphins in my era of getting hooked on the sport as a teenager, his trademark fat shades defining that Miami cool, with Miami Vice the big thing on tv and dan Marino reinventing the sport.

What I didn’t realise was he was already a Super Bowl winning coach with the colts way back in super bowl3, he was clearly successful in multiple eras and with very different offenses.

[Haymaker]

Quinton Dunbar and DeAndre Baker are in a lot of trouble.

[DH1875]

What I didn’t realise was he was already a Super Bowl winning coach with the colts way back in super bowl3, he was clearly successful in multiple eras and with very different offenses.

?

[hibsbollah]

?

Whoops :agree: But the Shula point is valid I think.

That Dunbar story is terrible news for us. Depth at cornerback is massive in today’s NFL and he was a big addition a couple of months ago.

[Haymaker]

Cody Latimer now arrested.

[hibsbollah]

Big rule change vote next week.

Instead of an onside kick, teams can opt for a 4th and 15 play from the 25yard line instead of kicking off. I’m not sure how I feel about it, i like the quirkiness of an onside kick.

[McD]

Big rule change vote next week.

Instead of an onside kick, teams can opt for a 4th and 15 play from the 25yard line instead of kicking off. I’m not sure how I feel about it, i like the quirkiness of an onside kick.



yeah, also feels a bit like rewarding teams who’re not very good at onside kicks

[Sergio sledge]

yeah, also feels a bit like rewarding teams who’re not very good at onside kicks

The problem is that onside kicks just don't work any more.

Because players can't run until the ball is kicked the likelihood of them getting into a position to recover an onside kick is tiny. I think the success rate was something like 6% last season when previously it had been 20%.

I used to love onside kicks and it was especially exciting when a coach did it in a surprising situation. One of the best was when the Saints started the 2nd half of their superbowl win with an onside kick. Sadly they wouldn't be attempted in any situation unless there was absolutely no other option, e.g. trailing with less than 1.5 mins left and no timeouts.

All kick offs are pretty much a waste of time right now, they usually go for a touchback and are hardly ever returned.

I quite liked what the XFL did with kick offs to be honest, but it didn't solve the onside kick problem. I think the 4 and 15 attempt is at least an effort to allow teams a chance to get another possession straight away, although I'd maybe look at allowing the kicker to line up anywhere on the 35 yard line so they could go wider to try to get more hang time on the ball and allow their players enough time to get up and challenge for it.

[McD]

The problem is that onside kicks just don't work any more.

Because players can't run until the ball is kicked the likelihood of them getting into a position to recover an onside kick is tiny. I think the success rate was something like 6% last season when previously it had been 20%.

I used to love onside kicks and it was especially exciting when a coach did it in a surprising situation. One of the best was when the Saints started the 2nd half of their superbowl win with an onside kick. Sadly they wouldn't be attempted in any situation unless there was absolutely no other option, e.g. trailing with less than 1.5 mins left and no timeouts.

All kick offs are pretty much a waste of time right now, they usually go for a touchback and are hardly ever returned.

I quite liked what the XFL did with kick offs to be honest, but it didn't solve the onside kick problem. I think the 4 and 15 attempt is at least an effort to allow teams a chance to get another possession straight away, although I'd maybe look at allowing the kicker to line up anywhere on the 35 yard line so they could go wider to try to get more hang time on the ball and allow their players enough time to get up and challenge for it.



Yeah all good points mate, its an imperfect situation that could be improved

[hibsbollah]

After thinking about it, I’ve come down on the side of keeping onside kicks as they are. It’s a nice quirk of the game and losing it would dilute the importance of special teams and increase the drive for everything to be about the offense all the time.


The problem of course comes from the rule change stopping the kicking teams run up prior to the kick off. They probably didn’t see the consequence on onside kicks becoming harder to pull off.

I also read about the possibility this could lead to clock manipulation. Imagine scenario, team scores with 15 seconds left, lead by a point, opposing team has 3 time outs, and ordinarily would have a decent shout at a couple of deep out routes and a field goal to win it. But under the new rules, the kick off team could opt for a 4th and 15 play, run a QB option with a series of reverses and lateral passes to run the 15 seconds off the clock and kill the game. Unless they say that the clock should remain stopped during the attempt maybe?

[Sergio sledge]

Unless they say that the clock should remain stopped during the attempt maybe?

I think that's what they'll have to do. Does the clock run during a kick off? I thought it didn't, but thinking about it it must because time can explore on a kick off return.

Our does it start when the receiving team gets the ball maybe? They could do this on the 4th and 15 attempt, only start the clock when a forward pass is thrown?

I like onside kicks too, they're great but they need to do something to make them work better. I just thought of it on the spot yesterday but I actually like the idea of allowing the kicker to line up anywhere on the 35 yard line with the full width of the field available. That would allow them as much as 53 yards to hang the ball up high and give their players more time to get to the ball. More like a rugby kick off where they have much more width on the pitch.

[hibsbollah]

I think that's what they'll have to do. Does the clock run during a kick off? I thought it didn't, but thinking about it it must because time can explore on a kick off return.

Our does it start when the receiving team gets the ball maybe? They could do this on the 4th and 15 attempt, only start the clock when a forward pass is thrown?

I like onside kicks too, they're great but they need to do something to make them work better. I just thought of it on the spot yesterday but I actually like the idea of allowing the kicker to line up anywhere on the 35 yard line with the full width of the field available. That would allow them as much as 53 yards to hang the ball up high and give their players more time to get to the ball. More like a rugby kick off where they have much more width on the pitch.

I think the clock starts when the receiver touches it? Can’t remember, I might dig out madden and check :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

No change to the onside kick rule announced. Probably a good thing.

[Haymaker]

I... I think the commish just apologized to Kap....

[hibsbollah]

I... I think the commish just apologized to Kap....

Judging by the Michael Thomas etc video yesterday, I think the players would strike if he hadn’t apologised. I can’t see CK getting a job-an owner would potentially alienate a big chunk of the fan base, everything is so polarised now.Hope I’m wrong.

[Sergio sledge]

I... I think the commish just apologized to Kap....

I actually thought it was a good message he put out, well done to him for showing some humility and admitting he got it wrong. Hopefully it'll lead to some change in the NFL, although I'd be very surprised if it led to Kap getting a job.

Still can't believe him and Cam Newton haven't got a job above some of the rubbish kicking around the league even as backups. Admittedly there are other factors at play with Newton, having long standing injuries and not being able to work him out because of coronavirus has got to be a contributing factor.

[StevesFamau5]

Just a quick plug folks.

I am a moderator for an NCAA football fan page on Facebook.

Recently we have had a few conference calls with players from several US colleges including Penn State, Duke and UCF.

We are releasing the conferences as posts once a week over the next few weeks and we hope the engagement will help promote college football within the UK.

If you have Facebook and want to follow us that would be great.

The page is - CFB UK

Cheers

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[Haymaker]

Cam Newton is a patriot.

****.

[Sylar]

Cam Newton is a patriot.

****.

If he can stay fit, fine.

However, that 'if' is bigger than his ego.

[hibsbollah]

If he can stay fit, fine.

However, that 'if' is bigger than his ego.

I wonder if he’ll wear that crushed velvet purple suit and matching pirate hat with the feather in it combo to his first session.

The most unbellychick signing ever.

[Sylar]

I wonder if he’ll wear that crushed velvet purple suit and matching pirate hat with the feather in it combo to his first session.

The most unbellychick signing ever.

He's taken a few players with ego in the past and turned them into grounded superstars (Talib, Ochocinco and even Brown for the short time he was in New England).

Personally, I'd rather see Stidham get a shot this year though - it's a full rebuild however you dress it up, so you might as well give the future a chance!

How I wish Jimmy G were still in New England...

[hibsbollah]

NFL Game Pass is asking for £144 for coverage this season. Seems a bit expensive, are there other options? It might even be cheaper to get it through upgrading my Sky package?

[hibsbollah]

https://www.nfl.com/news/washington-redskins-to-undergo-thorough-review-of-team-s-name

Could be the end for the Redskins...Marshall would be spinning in his grave.

[Pretty Boy]

Is it really that difficult for the Redskins to sit down with a few groups representing Native Americans and come up with a name and logo that nods to the history of the team name without the cultural stereotyping that is the real issue?

[Haymaker]

Is it really that difficult for the Redskins to sit down with a few groups representing Native Americans and come up with a name and logo that nods to the history of the team name without the cultural stereotyping that is the real issue?

Apparently yes.

[hibsbollah]

Is it really that difficult for the Redskins to sit down with a few groups representing Native Americans and come up with a name and logo that nods to the history of the team name without the cultural stereotyping that is the real issue?

They’re one of these teams you can see not making it through the next few seasons. They’ll relocate the franchise to St Louis or Oakland or somewhere. Crap team, no identity, terrible owners, absent fans. When I started following the sport they were Super Bowl champions, had an iconic style with Riggins and the Hogs and were the most popular NFL team in the U.K.

[Haymaker]

Mahomes signs a 10 year deal!

[Haymaker]

Redskins will get a new name Monday morning!

[hibsbollah]

Redskins will get a new name Monday morning!

Unbelievable what getting your merch taken off the Nike website will do for a franchise:greengrin
Was only a few years ago Snyder said he would ‘never’ change the name.

Is it going to be a derivation; ‘Lakota’, ‘warriors’? or do you go for a brand new brand? Hogs would be a nice nod to their on field past.

I think it’ll be Washington Warriors.

[NOLA]

Unbelievable what getting your merch taken off the Nike website will do for a franchise:greengrin
Was only a few years ago Snyder said he would ‘never’ change the name.

Is it going to be a derivation; ‘Lakota’, ‘warriors’? or do you go for a brand new brand? Hogs would be a nice nod to their on field past.

I think it’ll be Washington Warriors.

I heard it will be the G-Men [emoji848][emoji13].
But Warriors is more likely.


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[Haymaker]

Whatever the Washington Post has on Dan Snyder must be outrageous. Minority owners are selling up, media guys are saying it'll force him out...

[Haymaker]

And here it comes...! 15 women have accused some team scouts and members of Snyders inner circle of sexual harassment...

[McD]

And here it comes...! 15 women have accused some team scouts and members of Snyders inner circle of sexual harassment...



this could end up like the Donald Sterling situation with the LA Clippers in the NBA, probably worse

[hibsbollah]

Seattle have just broken the bank to acquire Jamal Adams. Given up a 1st round pick in 2021, 1st round pick in 2022 and our starter in the same position? For a player the Jets had to trade somewhere?!

He’d better be good.

[NOLA]

Seattle have just broken the bank to acquire Jamal Adams. Given up a 1st round pick in 2021, 1st round pick in 2022 and our starter in the same position? For a player the Jets had to trade somewhere?!

He’d better be good.

He’s the best player you never drafted [emoji2935] 2first rounders sounds a lot but he’s a stud. You won’t be disappointed

[StevesFamau5]

College football looking like it's done this fall. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200810/7e3028b16168d1d0098086e186cd2a76.jpg

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[Sylar]

College football looking like it's done this fall. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200810/7e3028b16168d1d0098086e186cd2a76.jpg

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All Stanford faculty got an email from the Athletics Department last week informing us there wouldn't be football this Fall, so I've been waiting a formal announcement from the NCAA to confirm.

Not surprised - the practice facilities (certainly in Stanford) have been closed since March, and the students aren't currently allowed on campus.

[StevesFamau5]

All Stanford faculty got an email from the Athletics Department last week informing us there wouldn't be football this Fall, so I've been waiting a formal announcement from the NCAA to confirm.

Not surprised - the practice facilities (certainly in Stanford) have been closed since March, and the students aren't currently allowed on campus.Good to know.

I have an incling that the NFL will probably go ahead but college will struggle to justify it.

A lot of noise from the SEC saying super conference but I think it's pie in the sky.

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[Sylar]

Good to know.

I have an incling that the NFL will probably go ahead but college will struggle to justify it.

A lot of noise from the SEC saying super conference but I think it's pie in the sky.

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I originally anticipated (based on nothing but my own opinion) that the season might just become a divisional one, to prevent widespread out-of-conference travel. However, Stanford's medical department and hospital have been at the forefront of the efforts against Covid in terms of research, and it was Stanford research that identified a link between covid and cardiac concerns. Given the congenital risk of heart disease amongst the African American population, Stanford's president was quite quick in communicating his concerns a couple of months ago in other areas, so it doesn't really surprise me he's been one of the more vocal folks in the PAC-12.

[NOLA]

Just watched hard knocks LA, I’ve got a question, seeing as how the chargers moved from San Diego to Los Angeles I feel they may have kept some of their chargers fans if they had rebranded as the California Chargers? Personally I think it sounds better but was there a stipulation that moving to LA and that “market” they had to be the LA chargers or did they miss a trick [emoji3166]

[Sylar]

Just watched hard knocks LA, I’ve got a question, seeing as how the chargers moved from San Diego to Los Angeles I feel they may have kept some of their chargers fans if they had rebranded as the California Chargers? Personally I think it sounds better but was there a stipulation that moving to LA and that “market” they had to be the LA chargers or did they miss a trick [emoji3166]

I'd imagine they probably felt moving to LA would be enough to replace any lost fans - they would have been the only (correct me if I'm wrong?) sport team in LA that didn't use the city name too. It would have been quite arrogant IMO to use the state name instead when the other 2 California NFL teams both use their hometowns (well, almost - San Jose is 50 miles southeast of San Francisco...).

[NOLA]

I'd imagine they probably felt moving to LA would be enough to replace any lost fans - they would have been the only (correct me if I'm wrong?) sport team in LA that didn't use the city name too. It would have been quite arrogant IMO to use the state name instead when the other 2 California NFL teams both use their hometowns (well, almost - San Jose is 50 miles southeast of San Francisco...).

or 49 miles from Santa Clara [emoji3166] [emoji102] still when you already have 1 team using the LA moniker and who has history in the town from before I feel a new start for the chargers could have been made more appealing using the California, it was just something I thought about [emoji23]

[Sylar]

or 49 miles from Santa Clara [emoji3166] [emoji102] still when you already have 1 team using the LA moniker and who has history in the town from before I feel a new start for the chargers could have been made more appealing using the California, it was just something I thought about [emoji23]

Sorry, I did mean Santa Clara! D’oh!

[DH1875]

Looks like channel 5 have got MNF for next 3 years.

[Pretty Boy]

Josh Rosen to Tampa is an interesting move. A year on the practice squad there with a bit of guidance from Brady might be what he needs.

I'm probably in a minority of one but I still think there is a good player there and I was sorry to see him leave Miami.

[Dibben]

Just shows you how fickle the NFL can be. Many had Rosen as QB1 in the draft just 2 years ago. I think he can still be a good player, but was never QB1.

[hibsbollah]

Josh Rosen to Tampa is an interesting move. A year on the practice squad there with a bit of guidance from Brady might be what he needs.

I'm probably in a minority of one but I still think there is a good player there and I was sorry to see him leave Miami.

I spoke about him before, was very impressed with him at Arizona and I thought he’d be the starter and succeed in south Florida. Just another QB I predicted great things for that made me look daft (also Trubisky :faf:)


With QBs it’s the intangibles that matter.

[McD]

Josh Rosen to Tampa is an interesting move. A year on the practice squad there with a bit of guidance from Brady might be what he needs.

I'm probably in a minority of one but I still think there is a good player there and I was sorry to see him leave Miami.


Its a quietly smart move for Tampa, gives them and him a chance to develop, won't be expensive, and provides a possibly very good post-Brady plan/option

[hibsbollah]

Re watching The Sopranos and didn't realise Lawrence Taylor makes an appearance.

Ive just finally watched it :greengrin Frankie Valli in the same episode. Dave Lee Roth not aged well at all.

[Sylar]

I don't know if it's Covid, the lack of a complementary NCAA season, the New England radical personnel changes or yet another 'behind-closed-doors' sport, but I just can't get excited for this coming season at all.

I really do wish this virus would just **** off already so we can get back to live, in-person experiences again. This was the first year I became eligible for a full Stanford season ticket, so I'm a little bitter...

[HibernianJK]

I don't know if it's Covid, the lack of a complementary NCAA season, the New England radical personnel changes or yet another 'behind-closed-doors' sport, but I just can't get excited for this coming season at all.

I really do wish this virus would just **** off already so we can get back to live, in-person experiences again. This was the first year I became eligible for a full Stanford season ticket, so I'm a little bitter...

I’m actually quite the opposite.

As the opposite from you the Bengals personal changes and especially Joe Burrow has me very excited.

My first dive into fantasy has also added to the buzz.

[hibsbollah]

I’m actually quite the opposite.

As the opposite from you the Bengals personal changes and especially Joe Burrow has me very excited.

My first dive into fantasy has also added to the buzz.

I see you’ve left him on your fantasy bench though :wink:

[HibernianJK]

I see you’ve left him on your fantasy bench though :wink:

Must be someone else as I am not in the .net fantasy league!!

I selected in my league so will be a quick pick up if he starts off hot!

[hibsbollah]

Must be someone else as I am not in the .net fantasy league!!

I selected in my league so will be a quick pick up if he starts off hot!

My mistake :aok: I have Deshaun Watson and Edwards-Helaire both starting tonight, hoping it’s going to be a high scoring affair, neither team has elite defenses...

[HibernianJK]

My mistake :aok: I have Deshaun Watson and Edwards-Helaire both starting tonight, hoping it’s going to be a high scoring affair, neither team has elite defenses...

Yep. Points line is the highest of week one on the game tonight. Edwards-Helaire is a guy I’m very much looking forward to seeing. Especially in that offence.

[HoboHarry]

And we are off - go Chiiiieeeeffffssssssss.................. :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

Here we go, first Sunday of action. How many adverts are on FOX?!! Terry Bradshaw has had about 90 seconds to summarise before its more Ford, Gilette, Doritos

[Sylar]

Miami look much improved since last year and were really unlucky not to get a penalty for the final interception. The AFC could be a really competitive division this year.

Newton looked really good and added a new dynamic to our offense. I like him.

Brady in another uniform is just wrong...

[Pretty Boy]

Miami look much improved since last year and were really unlucky not to get a penalty for the final interception. The AFC could be a really competitive division this year.

Newton looked really good and added a new dynamic to our offense. I like him.

Brady in another uniform is just wrong...

I thought the NE defence was very impressive. Stephen Gilmore got a couple of interference calls against him but he barely gave our receivers a sniff. The 1st call was because he had read where Fitzpatick was throwing the ball before Preston Williams had even turned, it was unlucky.

From a Miami perspective it was a mixed bag. Some good, some not so. We are a work in progress. The O line looked much improved, Fitzpatrick had time but as I said above NE were just on it in the secondary so he didn't have a lot to aim at.

This time last year we had just lost 59-10 at home to the Ravens and followed up with a 43-0 against the Pats. We are now a far better football team than that.

[hibsbollah]

I watched till half way through the 3rd quarter of Seattle’s win over the Falcons. That was time enough to make Jamal Adams one of my all time favourite Seahawk players. Total force of nature, no idea he was so good. We have no presence at all on the O line or D line but enough in the skill positions to force wins. Russell Wilson is just faultless.

[hibsbollah]

49ers underwhelming. Garropolo is just a below average QB riding a strong team. Kyler Murray is a great QB trying to run a relatively weak team.

[lord bunberry]

49ers underwhelming. Garropolo is just a below average QB riding a strong team. Kyler Murray is a great QB trying to run a relatively weak team.
Thant’s harsh, you don’t take a team to the superbowl without the complete package. Garrapolo was as much to do with that as physical nature of the offence and defence.

[hibsbollah]

Thant’s harsh, you don’t take a team to the superbowl without the complete package. Garrapolo was as much to do with that as physical nature of the offence and defence.

I disagree. A few Super Bowl teams have got there despite mediocre or average QB play, Jim Plunkett, Joe Flacco, Doug Williams, Jim McMahon spring to mind. It’s unusual but it happens. Especially if you have a great D and running game. The 49ers would be a better team with any of 25 other current NFL QBs. He just makes basic mistakes and poor decisions. The 49ers are all about great play design on the ground and suffocating defence.

[lord bunberry]

I’ve always had a soft spot for the vikings, but this is going to be a tough year. Not much happening either side of the ball, especially on offence.

[hibsbollah]

I’ve always had a soft spot for the vikings, but this is going to be a tough year. Not much happening either side of the ball, especially on offence.

Good start for your guy Jimmy G 14/16 and 2TDs :greengrin Although hes sprained his ankle, they could rest him second half I think and they’d still beat the jets.

[lord bunberry]

I disagree. A few Super Bowl teams have got there despite mediocre or average QB play, Jim Plunkett, Joe Flacco, Doug Williams, Jim McMahon spring to mind. It’s unusual but it happens. Especially if you have a great D and running game. The 49ers would be a better team with any of 25 other current NFL QBs. He just makes basic mistakes and poor decisions. The 49ers are all about great play design on the ground and suffocating defence.
True, but I think in today’s game you can’t get away with a bad quarterback. He might not be the best, but he’s not as bad as he’s made out to be. The great play design involves the quarterback.

[hibsbollah]

True, but I think in today’s game you can’t get away with a bad quarterback. He might not be the best, but he’s not as bad as he’s made out to be. The great play design involves the quarterback.

Well he’s certainly doing a lot better today :aok:

[lord bunberry]

Good start for your guy Jimmy G 14/16 and 2TDs :greengrin Although hes sprained his ankle, they could rest him second half I think and they’d still beat the jets.
The Jets where my first love in the nfl due to them playing in green. Sadly I agree that both of us could step in and improve the situation, but not the results. To think parcells and bellichick we’re both there at one point and they lost both.

[lord bunberry]

Big Ben on fire so far. I’m a Steelers man and if he puts in a big season he could be looking at MVP.

[hibsbollah]

The Jets where my first love in the nfl due to them playing in green. Sadly I agree that both of us could step in and improve the situation, but not the results. To think parcells and bellichick we’re both there at one point and they lost both.

What a joke, 3rd and 31 at the 49ers own 10 yard line, 49ers call a running play and it goes for 50 yards, Jets defense can’t let that happen, just awful. Garapolo injured.

[Sylar]

It’s been a hell of a day for injuries!

[lord bunberry]

What a joke, 3rd and 31 at the 49ers own 10 yard line, 49ers call a running play and it goes for 50 yards, Jets defense can’t let that happen, just awful. Garapolo injured.
I’m not watching that game, but if you’re looking for complete incompetence then look no further than the vikings.
edit
ive just watched the play you described, ffs

[lord bunberry]

Rivers has started scrambling, this vikings performance must go down as one of the worst I’ve seen.

[Sylar]

Rivers has started scrambling, this vikings performance must go down as one of the worst I’ve seen.

Just heard Cousins' stat-line for the day...deary me!

[lord bunberry]

Just heard Cousins' stat-line for the day...deary me!
He’s one of the few who didn’t get injured, mainly because he and his offence checked out early.

[lord bunberry]

Looking forward to see if the ravens can repeat last season and if Houston can step up, should be a good game.

[lord bunberry]

Cowboys win with a late field goal, two horrible losses for Atlanta.

[lord bunberry]

Arizona flying in the horrible nfc west .

[Sylar]

The outcome I expected last night, but we're perhaps not the hopeless case many were making us out to be before the season started.

Cam looks sharp. He made the wrong call in the dying seconds, but he had a superb night in the air and on the ground.

I fancy Seattle are going to have a pretty solid season. Wilson looks dialed in right now and Metcalf, Lockett, Dunbar all made our secondary look suspect last night.

[hibsbollah]

With all these injuries, it seems likely the teams that go deep in the playoffs will be the teams with deepest, quality rosters in the second string. Pittsburgh and Green Bay starting so hot has surprised me, I wasn’t expecting Big Ben or Rodgers to look so...young.

[Sylar]

With all these injuries, it seems likely the teams that go deep in the playoffs will be the teams with deepest, quality rosters in the second string. Pittsburgh and Green Bay starting so hot has surprised me, I wasn’t expecting Big Ben or Rodgers to look so...young.

Phillip Rivers too. Very composed yesterday!

[hibsbollah]

Phillip Rivers too. Very composed yesterday!

I actually like Rivers, he’s playing behind a decent line now, and I thought the Colts were a decent dark horse for a deep playoff run.

[lord bunberry]

Cowboys win with a late field goal, two horrible losses for Atlanta.
And a third shocking loss for Atlanta.

[McD]

And a third shocking loss for Atlanta.



bears have been a real Jekyll and Hyde team this year, literally possession to possession can be so different

[lord bunberry]

bears have been a real Jekyll and Hyde team this year, literally possession to possession can be so different
Switching quarterbacks seemed to have the desired affect last night, Foules is like the Ole Gunner Solsjkear of the NFL.

[McD]

Switching quarterbacks seemed to have the desired affect last night, Foules is like the Ole Gunner Solsjkear of the NFL.


yeah, seems to flourish as a sub so much more than as a starter

[David_D]

Tomorrow’s game between New England and Kansas City rearranged for Monday or Tuesday possibly after Cam Newton tests positive for Coronavirus.

[Sylar]

Tomorrow’s game between New England and Kansas City rearranged for Monday or Tuesday possibly after Cam Newton tests positive for Coronavirus.

Hardest game of the season for us and we have Brian ****ing Hoyer under centre...Jesus wept.

[Haymaker]

Hardest game of the season for us and we have Brian ****ing Hoyer under centre...Jesus wept.

I won't believe that until I see it.

Stidham will play.

[hibsbollah]

Decent contest early on in Miami, Seahawks lead Dolphins 10-6, two defenses that cant stop anyone.

[Pretty Boy]

Decent contest early on in Miami, Seahawks lead Dolphins 10-6, two defenses that cant stop anyone.

Absolutely infuriating end to the half from a Miami point of view. Well in the game then within 30 seconds of play we are 8 points behind and Seattle have the ball first in the 2nd half. The pass defence on both sides is almost laughably bad.

As an aside I completely forgot the Dolphins have the Texans 1st and 2nd round draft picks. They are currently on course to go 0-4!

[hibsbollah]

Absolutely infuriating end to the half from a Miami point of view. Well in the game then within 30 seconds of play we are 8 points behind and Seattle have the ball first in the 2nd half. The pass defence on both sides is almost laughably bad.

As an aside I completely forgot the Dolphins have the Texans 1st and 2nd round draft picks. They are currently on course to go 0-4!

:agree: Seattle have morphed into high octane modern offense with no D. I’m not complaining, it’s a lot of fun.

[hibsbollah]

Win #4. Miami look better but still unlikely to challenge for a wild card imo.

[Sylar]

How about the Browns?! :greengrin

My fantasy team might as well have declared a loss before any player took the field tonight. All of the changes in schedules + injuries.

26.7 points at this stage...

[HoboHarry]

Meanwhile the Chiefs go marching on......:aok:

[hibsbollah]

Meanwhile the Chiefs go marching on......:aok:

Judging by the highlights the Pats blew several chances to take the lead end of 2nd and 3rd quarter, and mistakes by Hoyer and Stidham gave the scoreline a flattering look. Patriots D will get them a playoff spot unless injuries/Covid start to bite.

[HoboHarry]

Judging by the highlights the Pats blew several chances to take the lead end of 2nd and 3rd quarter, and mistakes by Hoyer and Stidham gave the scoreline a flattering look. Patriots D will get them a playoff spot unless injuries/Covid start to bite.
Oh no doubt about mistakes contributing to the win but I'll take it :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

Oh no doubt about mistakes contributing to the win but I'll take it :greengrin

Yeah they’re looking good on defense as well with Chris Jones back so you guys are an even scarier prospect now!

[lord bunberry]

Judging by the highlights the Pats blew several chances to take the lead end of 2nd and 3rd quarter, and mistakes by Hoyer and Stidham gave the scoreline a flattering look. Patriots D will get them a playoff spot unless injuries/Covid start to bite.
They definitely did, but the score didn’t flatter the Cheifs. The Patriots never looked like they’d win the game and their D kept it as close as it was. The Patriots play calling just didn’t work without Newton and Edelman had a shocker.

[Sylar]

Foxborough shut down again after another positive test, Titans' facility shut down after staff member tests positive, Broncos vs Patriots game postponed due to positive cases...

The season is already flirting with being a complete farce.

[hibsbollah]

Foxborough shut down again after another positive test, Titans' facility shut down after staff member tests positive, Broncos vs Patriots game postponed due to positive cases...

The season is already flirting with being a complete farce.

I think a couple of postponements after 5 weeks of games isn’t too bad, considering what’s going on. I’ve enjoyed the season so far and certainly as a TV viewer the absence of fans isn’t bothering me as much as it does for fitba’, for some reason.

[hibsbollah]

Chiefs D cant cope with Henry Ruggs first half. First defeat?

[lord bunberry]

Chiefs D cant cope with Henry Ruggs first half. First defeat?
That looked like a good game, I didn’t see it I was watching the Scotland game. For the Raiders to restrict the Chiefs to 8 points in the second half is pretty decent and surprising.

[hibsbollah]

Some horrendous calls throughout that Steelers Eagles game going both ways and again in Miami’s destruction of the 49ers just now. There’s a roughing the passer call just now that was barely a nudge. Officiating seems to be getting worse and worse, time to allow more contact again.

[McD]

Horrible injury for Dak Prescott, real shame

[Pretty Boy]

So the Tua Tagovailoa era is set to begin in Miami. 20 years and 21 QBs down the line have we found the successor to Dan Marino?

I can't help but feel a bit sorry for Ryan Fitzpatrick, he always knew he was a gatekeeper but the way it has been handled doesn't seem great. He seems pretty hurt by that. He's been great for us, both as a player and as a person, and he's already said he's committed to helping Tua as much as possible going forward.

[hibsbollah]

So the Tua Tagovailoa era is set to begin in Miami. 20 years and 21 QBs down the line have we found the successor to Dan Marino?

I can't help but feel a bit sorry for Ryan Fitzpatrick, he always knew he was a gatekeeper but the way it has been handled doesn't seem great. He seems pretty hurt by that. He's been great for us, both as a player and as a person, and he's already said he's committed to helping Tua as much as possible going forward.

Fitz has been one of the stories of the season so far. It seems incredibly harsh on him to bench him now, playing the best football of his career at 37, despite that hipster beard dragging him down and affecting his aerodynamics...But also exciting to see Tua properly.

Im tempted to try and stay up for eagles giants tonight. A fascinating battle between two terrible teams who both have a decent chance of a playoff berth.

[hibsbollah]

Daniel Jones running out of gas last night was hilarious :faf: Eagles going to the playoffs as things stand!

[lord bunberry]

The Steelers at the Titans promises to be a cracker. Will Henry be as effective against the Steelers defense.

[Pretty Boy]

What an end to the Lions Falcons game. Gurley will be kicking himself.

[lord bunberry]

What an end to the Lions Falcons game. Gurley will be kicking himself.
That’s the 4th time this season the Atlanta have lost a game right at the end.

[hibsbollah]

What an end to the Lions Falcons game. Gurley will be kicking himself.

I’ve never seen anything like that before. Just awful play calling from Dan Reeves though, first down with just over a minute left, let the QB take the knee on three snaps, let the clock run down and kick an easy FG. It’s hard to blame Gurley too much.

[lord bunberry]

I’ve never seen anything like that before. Just awful play calling from Dan Reeves though, first down with just over a minute left, let the QB take the knee on three snaps, let the clock run down and kick an easy FG. It’s hard to blame Gurley too much.
It was weird, I’ve never seen someone try and not score a touchdown before.

[hibsbollah]

It was weird, I’ve never seen someone try and not score a touchdown before.

Scoring one while trying NOT to score one must be a first :faf:

[lord bunberry]

Scoring one while trying NOT to score one must be a first :faf:
Bizarre. I was watching the Steelers game so I hadn’t realised what was going on, no wonder they’ve lost so many games this season when they’re doing things like that.

[lord bunberry]

The 49ers are all over the Patriots, the Jimmy G effect in full flow :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

DK Metcalf just made an unbelievable play to stop a pick six. Not sure he’s human :greengrin

[HoboHarry]

Cardinals and Seahawks game last night was one of the best I've seen in ages, what a finish......

[hibsbollah]

Cardinals and Seahawks game last night was one of the best I've seen in ages, what a finish......

It was ridiculous. A bit of a heartbreaker at the end. Kyler Murray is right up there with Mahomes IMO in terms of pure talent. Just watching the Bills up on the Patriots early. Cam still has it but the supporting cast in New England looks weaker than I’ve ever seen them.

[Pretty Boy]

This Rams V Dolphins game is mental.

Tua strip sacked with his 2nd play, Rams score from the possession. Goff picked off, Dolphins score on the drive. Gaskin fumbles and Rams recover in the red zone, on the next play Goff is strip sacked and Dolphins run it in 79 yards for a TD. Some proper old school hits as well. Great fun.

[Pretty Boy]

And now the Dolphins have an 88 yard punt return TD. We are killing them with our defence. Goff is all over the pla e, great to watch a Miami team that looks proper.

[hibsbollah]

And now the Dolphins have an 88 yard punt return TD. We are killing them with our defence. Goff is all over the pla e, great to watch a Miami team that looks proper.

OK I’m switching over to that now :faf: Could do with the Rams losing this one

edit 28-7 now, Gaskin just scores. Your Offensive line is absolutely huge :faf: absolute behemoths, must be the biggest in the league surely.

[Pretty Boy]

Goff has been horrible. He's not getting much help but the last interception he just has to take the sack and then the fumble he just has to get rid of it. I'd expect that from a rookie not a guy who has been to a Superbowl.

[hibsbollah]

Goff has been horrible. He's not getting much help but the last interception he just has to take the sack and then the fumble he just has to get rid of it. I'd expect that from a rookie not a guy who has been to a Superbowl.

Hes just average. Also, with Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray in that division he suffers by comparison.

[lord bunberry]

The Steelers haven’t got going yet, only 64 yards of offence in the first half. Baltimore have done what no team have managed this season, they’ve run the ball against Pittsburgh.

[hibsbollah]

Metcalf is absolutely ridiculous. Future Hall of Famer without a doubt. Seahawks 6-0 up.

[Sylar]

I remember a time when we were a pretty poor team (pre-Brady) but I think I'm correct in saying this is our worst start to a season since 1992 or 93.

I give us a 50-50 chance of beating the Jets if Newton is under centre...

[DH1875]

I remember a time when we were a pretty poor team (pre-Brady) but I think I'm correct in saying this is our worst start to a season since 1992 or 93.

I give us a 50-50 chance of beating the Jets if Newton is under centre...

I'm guessing you've not seen much of the Jets this year. Utter dross doesn't even cover it.

[Sylar]

I'm guessing you've not seen much of the Jets this year. Utter dross doesn't even cover it.

I haven't to be honest but I guessed as much with you sitting with the record you have. I only mention you since you are our next game :greengrin

[Sergio sledge]

I think the Eagles would give anyone a run for their money in pure crapness just now. What has happened to Wentz, last year he was dragging a poor team into the playoffs, but this year he has gone completely off the rails. Maybe the pressure of trying to lead poor roster decimated by injury has really got to him.

Just as well we are in the worst division in football just now....

[hibsbollah]

Has anyone got NFL game pass? I paid a lot of money for it for the first time this season, on the basis they had every game live, but it’s extremely frustrating that they don’t show the Sky Sports featured games, I’m assuming this is normal practice? Seattle seem to be the main game on sky every week so I can’t seem to watch it live on Game Pass :grr:

[DH1875]

Has anyone got NFL game pass? I paid a lot of money for it for the first time this season, on the basis they had every game live, but it’s extremely frustrating that they don’t show the Sky Sports featured games, I’m assuming this is normal practice? Seattle seem to be the main game on sky every week so I can’t seem to watch it live on Game Pass :grr:

Don't think you've ever been able to get the SKY games. I've not had it for a few years but certainly used to be the case.

[Calvin]

Has anyone got NFL game pass? I paid a lot of money for it for the first time this season, on the basis they had every game live, but it’s extremely frustrating that they don’t show the Sky Sports featured games, I’m assuming this is normal practice? Seattle seem to be the main game on sky every week so I can’t seem to watch it live on Game Pass :grr:

I didn’t buy it this year, gambling that a lot of seahawks games would be on tv here. Thank goodness we’ve played so well. It is a bit of a swindle though.

My first 4am alarm of the season tonight.

[hibsbollah]

I didn’t buy it this year, gambling that a lot of seahawks games would be on tv here. Thank goodness we’ve played so well. It is a bit of a swindle though.

My first 4am alarm of the season tonight.

A 6pm ko in the U.K. is perfect too :roll eyes:

[lord bunberry]

Has anyone got NFL game pass? I paid a lot of money for it for the first time this season, on the basis they had every game live, but it’s extremely frustrating that they don’t show the Sky Sports featured games, I’m assuming this is normal practice? Seattle seem to be the main game on sky every week so I can’t seem to watch it live on Game Pass :grr:
How much is the game pass? Quite a few Steelers games have been on sky so I’ve been able to watch, but I wouldn’t mind seeing all the games.

[hibsbollah]

How much is the game pass? Quite a few Steelers games have been on sky so I’ve been able to watch, but I wouldn’t mind seeing all the games.

I paid £140 in a moment of madness. I’m sure it’ll be less now the seasons halfway through. It is good to be able to watch all the games, I’m lions Vikings at the moment but it’s not that competitive just yet. 13-0 vikings

[Calvin]

I paid £140 in a moment of madness. I’m sure it’ll be less now the seasons halfway through. It is good to be able to watch all the games, I’m lions Vikings at the moment but it’s not that competitive just yet. 13-0 vikings

You’re not missing much in Buffalo.

[hibsbollah]

You’re not missing much in Buffalo.

They showed the 4th down play, run the ball Pete!!!

[hibsbollah]

Don't think you've ever been able to get the SKY games. I've not had it for a few years but certainly used to be the case.

:aok:

Seattle Arizona the main Sky game in a fortnight too

[McD]

Horrible injury for Kyle Allan

[hibsbollah]

I think we all knew the Cowboys would find a way to mess that up :greengrin
Big win for Miami at the Cards.

[Sylar]

We bawhaired a win with the last kick of the game against a Jets side that picked our defense apart.

I'll take the win but it was not pretty.

[Pretty Boy]

More encouraging signs for Miami this week. A road win against a good Cardinals team, some really promising signs from Tua (albeit he had one of the worst throwaways I have ever seen) and some big plays on all sides of the ball.

I'd be disappointed if we don't get pretty close to playing play off football this year.

[hibsbollah]

More encouraging signs for Miami this week. A road win against a good Cardinals team, some really promising signs from Tua (albeit he had one of the worst throwaways I have ever seen) and some big plays on all sides of the ball.

I'd be disappointed if we don't get pretty close to playing play off football this year.

I had a quick look at your next few games; Chargers, Broncos, Jets, Bengals, before a shot at the Patriots in week 15. Can’t ask for a more winnable run than that.

[Sylar]

Finally some good news for Patriots fans! Nobody will be allowed into Foxborough to watch the team play live this year.

[lord bunberry]

What a finish in the Bills Cardinals game, unbelievable catch from Hopkins to win it for the Cardinals to win it at the death.

[nellio]

I simply cannot fathom why the Texans traded away Hopkins. Absolutely mental.

[hibsbollah]

I simply cannot fathom why the Texans traded away Hopkins. Absolutely mental.

Snow shovels for hands. He’s just ridiculous.

[hibsbollah]

Big win for the Hawks last night against Murray and the Cardinals. 28-21, not the offensive shootout that was predicted. Metcalf didn’t have huge numbers but he dominated Patrick Peterson again. I really expected the Cards to win that.

[hibsbollah]

It doesn’t get much more blue collar than this, Eagles 0 Browns 7 in the rain. Whatever happened to Carsten Wentz? He’s a liability these days.

[-Jonesy-]

Number 1 pick Joe Burrow will be out for the rest of the season after taking a near certain multiple knee ligament tear not long ago. His knee buckled horribly after being hit from behind and low from the front.
This entire season is cursed with terrible injuries

[hibsbollah]

Number 1 pick Joe Burrow will be out for the rest of the season after taking a near certain multiple knee ligament tear not long ago. His knee buckled horribly after being hit from behind and low from the front.
This entire season is cursed with terrible injuries

He’s been getting battered all season and I said at the start that he would be doing well to escape an injury with the lack of protection he’s getting from that Oline. I’m glad the cameras decided to pan away from the contact, sounds like another shocker.

[McD]

He’s been getting battered all season and I said at the start that he would be doing well to escape an injury with the lack of protection he’s getting from that Oline. I’m glad the cameras decided to pan away from the contact, sounds like another shocker.


ACL and MCL done, with other structural damage to the knee apparently

[Sylar]

ACL and MCL done, with other structural damage to the knee apparently

Never mind season, that could be a career ender.

[hibsbollah]

Never mind season, that could be a career ender.

I was reading Wentz had the same sort of injury in multiple knee compartments. Never the same player again.

[Sylar]

I was reading Wentz had the same sort of injury in multiple knee compartments. Never the same player again.

I don't think that's anything to do with his knee. It's because I've had him as my fantasy QB this season :greengrin

[McD]

Never mind season, that could be a career ender.


yeah, sad to see, I think if he makes it back, he’ll not be the same physically again

[hibsbollah]

Happy Thanksgiving :thumbsup:

A better game than I expected in Houston, Texans leading the Lions in the 3rd. Washington Dallas is absolutely huge in a couple of hours, the winner *sort of goes top of the East. The COVID situation has forced the cancellation of Steelers Ravens and I’d imagine thanksgiving get togethers and général non compliance will make that nationwide situation even worse.

[hibsbollah]

Impressive goal line stand by the Patriots D in Foxboro. 10-7 Cardinals at the half.

[-Jonesy-]

Deebo Samuel is something else, one guys aggression can just turn a game around love to see it

[hibsbollah]

Impressive goal line stand by the Patriots D in Foxboro. 10-7 Cardinals at the half.

49ers beat Rams with a walkoff FG 23-20.

[DH1875]

Did anyone see the Broncos game? What a farce lol (shouldn't laugh really). Amazed they had to play the game but to then not even let them use their QB coach to play :confused:
In short, if you don't know, Broncos had to play the game without any QBs. All 4 of them out because of covid. Broncos asked for permission to play one of their coaches and this was denied so they had play one of their back up WIDE RECEIVERS at QB. They had more interceptions than complete passes lol. Still managed to get 3 points on the board, maybe the Jets should try it.

[hibsbollah]

Did anyone see the Broncos game? What a farce lol (shouldn't laugh really). Amazed they had to play the game but to then not even let them use their QB coach to play :confused:
In short, if you don't know, Broncos had to play the game without any QBs. All 4 of them out because of covid. Broncos asked for permission to play one of their coaches and this was denied so they had play one of their back up WIDE RECEIVERS at QB. They had more interceptions than complete passes lol. Still managed to get 3 points on the board, maybe the Jets should try it.

When I flicked over He was 0 of 8 with an overthrown interception by about 20yards. Looked like me when I used to play...

[-Jonesy-]

Did anyone see the Broncos game? What a farce lol (shouldn't laugh really). Amazed they had to play the game but to then not even let them use their QB coach to play :confused:
In short, if you don't know, Broncos had to play the game without any QBs. All 4 of them out because of covid. Broncos asked for permission to play one of their coaches and this was denied so they had play one of their back up WIDE RECEIVERS at QB. They had more interceptions than complete passes lol. Still managed to get 3 points on the board, maybe the Jets should try it.

Don’t get it all, don’t follow how the NFL decides to suspend the steeper’s ravens game after 3 positive tests but was happy to let this one go ahead and the 9ers packers game last week.
You see people go on about favouritism for certain teams or players and you wonder if there’s maybe something in that.

[HibernianJK]

Don’t get it all, don’t follow how the NFL decides to suspend the steeper’s ravens game after 3 positive tests but was happy to let this one go ahead and the 9ers packers game last week.
You see people go on about favouritism for certain teams or players and you wonder if there’s maybe something in that.

Quite simple really, they hadn’t contained the Ravens outbreak. Players continued to test positive during the week and after the game was due to be played.

If they were happy they had all cases identified, they would have been made to play just like the Broncos.

[hibsbollah]

And RG3 runs out as starting QB in the NFL again.

[Sylar]

Really looking forward to this - first game I'll have been able to sit and watch start to finish live so far this season!

[Sylar]

RG3 throws a pick 6!

[Sylar]

It saddens me to see all of these washed up QBs in the league this year, yet CK continues to sit on the sidelines. He's far better than a lot of the dross suiting up week in, week out. NFL owners really are cowards.

[hibsbollah]

It saddens me to see all of these washed up QBs in the league this year, yet CK continues to sit on the sidelines. He's far better than a lot of the dross suiting up week in, week out. NFL owners really are cowards.

I was looking forward to seeing RG3, but he’s clearly not up to it. Sweep right to the tailback on a 3rd and 21? They clearly have no faith in him.

As to CK, agree completely, but in this year of all years if it’s not happened, it’s never happening.

[hibsbollah]

I’m really enjoying the Vikings second half of the season. They’ve just taken an early lead against Tampa Bay with smashmouth running game, quite like the 49ers last season with a lot of power running and play action. Both teams need the win to solidify a wild card spot.

[hibsbollah]

Wow. Vikings dominating early, miss a couple of easy kicks, Brady with one perfect deep ball gives the Buccs the lead. He’s still got something left in that arm...

[hibsbollah]

The Vikings have to be furious with the refs this half. And the kicker.

[hibsbollah]

The Jets are doing a Jets thing, before the opening ko they’re 0-13 and in prime position for Trev Lawrence, now they’re shocking the 9-4 Rams 20-3 in the 3rd quarter:greengrin

[David_D]

The Jets win finally.

[HibernianJK]

**** the Steelers letsss gooooo!!

[lord bunberry]

**** the Steelers letsss gooooo!!
Ach we’ve just taken our foot of the gas till the playoffs :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

Least surprising news of the season

https://www.nfl.com/news/seahawks-wr-josh-gordon-out-indefinitely-as-he-did-not-satisfy-conditional-reins

[HibernianJK]

Ach we’ve just taken our foot of the gas till the playoffs :greengrin

I think I’d be worried if I was a Steelers fan. Looks like the 11-0 record was a bit of a facade and Ben looks horrible.

[lord bunberry]

I think I’d be worried if I was a Steelers fan. Looks like the 11-0 record was a bit of a facade and Ben looks horrible.
I am a bit concerned. I’ve not seen any of the losses as they’ve either been on really late or not on sky. I thought early on in the season we looked ordinary but still won, but the three games against the browns, titans and the ravens I started to believe this could be our year. Maybe they’re starting to believe their own hype and these losses will give them a kick up the backside.

[Pretty Boy]

Can I just put it on record that I love Ryan Fitzpatrick.

If you haven't seen the throw he made in the last 20 seconds of last night's game then watch it. He was partially decapitated when he released the ball.

[hibsbollah]

Can I just put it on record that I love Ryan Fitzpatrick.

If you haven't seen the throw he made in the last 20 seconds of last night's game then watch it. He was partially decapitated when he released the ball.

I think he got a bit lucky on that one :greengrin

Its an unusual situation, where the coach is continuing to say Tua is the starter, but the youngster is continuing to underperform and as a result the unfashionable beardy vet gets wheeled out to make great throws. There’s clearly a good atmosphere between players and coaches to allow that to happen regularly and everyone to stay happy. Both Fitz and Tua seem like good eggs.

[hibsbollah]

The 10-4 Browns finding a way to mess up their season. Always the same, 14-3 down now to the Jets.

[lord bunberry]

Great win for the black and gold, to turn that around was impressive.

[David_D]

The Jaguars have won the Trevor Lawrence lottery then. The way they have played this season there should be zero doubt they pick him.

[hibsbollah]

Big potential division deciding games on now Eagles Cowboys and Seahawks Rams.

what a deep ball from Hurts, he has to be the starter now. Eagles in pole position now.

[DH1875]

The 10-4 Browns finding a way to mess up their season. Always the same, 14-3 down now to the Jets.

Did you see how the game ended? I've had it explained a couple of times and still don't get it. Very unfair in my opinion.

Jets have some how managed to win 2 in a row now though :confused:

[hibsbollah]

Did you see how the game ended? I've had it explained a couple of times and still don't get it. Very unfair in my opinion.

Jets have some how managed to win 2 in a row now though :confused:

Id switched games by then. Two teams that have found their way to mess things up when it mattered most. As usual. Jags get Trev.

Seattles d stiffs the Rams on four consecutive plays on the goal line . That’s big.

[DH1875]

Id switched games by then. Two teams that have found their way to mess things up when it mattered most. As usual. Jags get Trev.

Seattles d stiffs the Rams on four consecutive plays on the goal line . That’s big.

Watch the play when you get the chance. I had no idea that was the rules. I'm still not sure it even is as sure I've seen an offensive player recover a fumble and move the ball forward :confused:

[hibsbollah]

Watch the play when you get the chance. I had no idea that was the rules. I'm still not sure it even is as sure I've seen an offensive player recover a fumble and move the ball forward :confused:

Not in the final two minutes of games you haven’t. It’s a rule to stop an offensive player deliberately fumbling it forward to a teammate and then that teammate picking it up and advancing it(when he’s wrapped up by a defender on 4th down inches from the goal line, for example). The ball is ruled dead at the spot where the fumble happened. It’s a scenario that only becomes relevant late on in games so making it kick in in the final 2 minutes makes it a good rule IMO.

Iwatched the finale and it’s even more Browns-like than the rest of the game. How do you fumble on a play like that :dunno:

[Haymaker]

The mood on the street here in Jets country is...

WHAT THE ****?!?!

[Pretty Boy]

The mood on the street here in Jets country is...

WHAT THE ****?!?!

I think it's brilliant.

As it stands the 2-13 Jets have the number 2 pick and the 10-5 Dolphins have the number 3.

I'm actually quite chuffed for Lawrence at how this has played out. For all the Jags issues they have a lot of draft picks and mountains of cap space to build something. He has a shot at being successful there.

[hibsbollah]

I think it's brilliant.

As it stands the 2-13 Jets have the number 2 pick and the 10-5 Dolphins have the number 3.

I'm actually quite chuffed for Lawrence at how this has played out. For all the Jags issues they have a lot of draft picks and mountains of cap space to build something. He has a shot at being successful there.

I don’t know much about college football, but is Trev that much better than the alternatives? I hear the Ohio QB Fields is a top prospect as well. It wouldn’t be the first time a college star fades in the pros and vice versa; no one expected much from the rookie QB Herbert at the chargers this year, he went behind 4 or 5 other QBs in the draft and he’s broken the rookie TD record this season! he wasn’t even a starter in September. It could be the Jets get an eventual star player anyway from #2.

[Haymaker]

I think it's brilliant.

As it stands the 2-13 Jets have the number 2 pick and the 10-5 Dolphins have the number 3.

I'm actually quite chuffed for Lawrence at how this has played out. For all the Jags issues they have a lot of draft picks and mountains of cap space to build something. He has a shot at being successful there.

As a Pats fan I love it.

To be fair I do think Darnold isnt the problem, they have little to no blockers catchers or runners, Lawrence doesn't really change that, he'll still need those guys to turn the Jets into contenders but he'll still do a good job. Build that side then get a top QB in a couple years if Darnold doesn't get it done then.

[Haymaker]

I don’t know much about college football, but is Trev that much better than the alternatives? I hear the Ohio QB Fields is a top prospect as well. It wouldn’t be the first time a college star fades in the pros and vice versa; no one expected much from the rookie QB Herbert at the chargers this year, he went behind 4 or 5 other QBs in the draft and he’s broken the rookie TD record this season! he wasn’t even a starter in September. It could be the Jets get an eventual star player anyway from #2.

I liked Fields for the Patriots but he had a shocker in the championship game the other week...

And yeah college doesn't always mean they'll be great at pro. But Trevor Lawrence missed the game vs Notre Dame and Dame won. He played in their second match up and they were favorites by 20+ points. He's a difference maker.

[hibsbollah]

I liked Fields for the Patriots but he had a shocker in the championship game the other week...

And yeah college doesn't always mean they'll be great at pro. But Trevor Lawrence missed the game vs Notre Dame and Dame won. He played in their second match up and they were favorites by 20+ points. He's a difference maker.

Interesting, thanks. He does have nice hair also.

[Haymaker]

Interesting, thanks. He does have nice hair also.

Needs to get that cut. Damn Hippies!

Of course, he DOES have an awful lot of good college players round him. Look at Tua, he's not getting much done at Miami who I'd say have better options than the Jets.

[Sylar]

It's going to be really interesting to see what we do in the off-season this year. I have a sneaky feeling BB is going to walk away at the end of this year, as Kraft Snr rolls the dice with Josh McDaniels most likely to take over.

Cam has looked awful at times, but with so few weapons and protection, he's not being helped - I can't decide if I want to see him get another year or tossed out of a moving bus. Apart from our special teams, it's been a horror show of a year and I fully expect the Jets to get their 3rd win in our final game.

[Haymaker]

I liked Fields for the Patriots but he had a shocker in the championship game the other week...

And yeah college doesn't always mean they'll be great at pro. But Trevor Lawrence missed the game vs Notre Dame and Dame won. He played in their second match up and they were favorites by 20+ points. He's a difference maker.

Well Fields is currently beating the ship out of Clemson so....

[Haymaker]

So my Boy is clearing house at the Jets after tomorrows game. Could be interesting!

[hibsbollah]

Cowboys missing tackles all over the place on their opening drive. It’s like they’re scared of the playoffs. 7-0 The G Men.

[hibsbollah]

Giants hold on and stay alive at 6-10, if Washington win later they win the division. Seahawks winning, Bears surprising Packers early on.

[lord bunberry]

Who does everyone think will win it now? As much as I’d like to say the Steelers, I just can’t see them winning it with no running game. The Chiefs are the obvious choice and I think they’ll probably win it, but the Ravens have hit form at the right time.

[hibsbollah]

Who does everyone think will win it now? As much as I’d like to say the Steelers, I just can’t see them winning it with no running game. The Chiefs are the obvious choice and I think they’ll probably win it, but the Ravens have hit form at the right time.

For once the AFC looks stronger, especially offensively. Bills Ravens and Chiefs Titans all have ridiculous offenses capable of scoring 40 points on anyone. In the NFC the Buccaneers Saints and Packers all look like they have a chance too. It’s just impossible to call...but I picked the saints at the start of the season so I’ll stick with them.

[Sergio sledge]

For once the AFC looks stronger, especially offensively. Bills Ravens and Chiefs Titans all have ridiculous offenses capable of scoring 40 points on anyone. In the NFC the Buccaneers Saints and Packers all look like they have a chance too. It’s just impossible to call...but I picked the saints at the start of the season so I’ll stick with them.

I'd love to see the Bills win it, Josh Allen has had so many doubters and as soon as he got a decent WR in Diggs has been lighting it up. It's going to be a close one between Bills, Ravens and Chiefs. I think that the Chiefs have a tendency to switch off in games, it's almost like it is too easy for them, and this may come back to haunt them in the playoffs.

Can't really see past the Packers in the NFC, Rodgers has been playing insanely good. The Packers should draft a QB every season.

As for Trevor Lawrence, the draft is always a lottery but he's as nailed on a prospect as you'll ever see IMHO. The Jags had 12 draft picks last year and a further 10 this year if they draft well they'll be really well placed to make a big jump a couple of years from now, just in time for the franchise to move to London.... If the rumours are correct that they're going for Urban Meyer as HC it will be really interesting to watch.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Jets trade away from number 2, Darnold is a serviceable QB, surround him with the right weapons and a decent HC and I think he'll be fine. The Patriots, Broncos and Panthers could all be willing to trade up for a QB, although it's not something the Patriots ever seem to do.

[Pretty Boy]

I'd love to see the Bills win it, Josh Allen has had so many doubters and as soon as he got a decent WR in Diggs has been lighting it up. It's going to be a close one between Bills, Ravens and Chiefs. I think that the Chiefs have a tendency to switch off in games, it's almost like it is too easy for them, and this may come back to haunt them in the playoffs.

Can't really see past the Packers in the NFC, Rodgers has been playing insanely good. The Packers should draft a QB every season.

As for Trevor Lawrence, the draft is always a lottery but he's as nailed on a prospect as you'll ever see IMHO. The Jags had 12 draft picks last year and a further 10 this year if they draft well they'll be really well placed to make a big jump a couple of years from now, just in time for the franchise to move to London.... If the rumours are correct that they're going for Urban Meyer as HC it will be really interesting to watch.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Jets trade away from number 2, Darnold is a serviceable QB, surround him with the right weapons and a decent HC and I think he'll be fine. The Patriots, Broncos and Panthers could all be willing to trade up for a QB, although it's not something the Patriots ever seem to do.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Jets consider trading down as well. I think Darnold may be approaching last chance saloon there though, he's still making a lot of the same mistakes he was making as a rookie. In saying that someone like Ryan Tannehill , or as you mention Josh Allen shows what happens when you give a QB weapons and protection.

There will certainly be scope to move up for those that want to. I'd be stunned if the Dolphins aren't seriously considering trading back from 3. We have an urgent need for a RB and a WR but we should be able to get one of the top prospects from a bit further down the line whilst stacking picks in the later rounds (which is where a lot of the real business is done). I think it's also quite likely we will take a QB at some point as well, probably round 5 or 6.

[HibernianJK]

If this is last chance saloon for Darnold then surely the Jets take a QB this year? If he ****s the bed and they’re left with a mid top 10 draft pick next year in a weaker QB class they are shafted.

They defo take a QB this year IMO.

[hibsbollah]

Here we go with the playoffs! I have beer, pizza delivery later, love the wild card weekend.
I can see the Bills putting a bit of a destruction on the Colts shortly. Later, in the big game in this house anyway, Seattle host the La Rams. I’m predicting a messy defensive Seattle win, probably in the final minutes.

[Pretty Boy]

I'd love to see the Bills win it and I think they have a very decent outside shot.

I like Josh Allen and I have a friend who is a huge Bills fan. He still gets angry that Jim Kelly never got a ring.