Winter 2022-23 transfer thread

[eastmainsmsh]

Please say this Niskanen rumour is a lot of rubbish? Probably is as just saw it on Twitter, guessing it is garbage.

That the Dundee united finnish player

[neil7908]

I really can’t see Johnson sticking with Hanlon much longer.

Look at the defending tonight

https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/status/1608213021616136192?s=46&t=KhgtWSMMmFkJHC2FPRYDEg

Kyogo starts in front of him and for whatever reason he completely leaves him when there is no other threat whatsoever

Ooooffft that's a shocker.

You could have driven a double decker bus through the heart of our defence.

[McGruber]

Marshall is as good as we will get in this league between the sticks.
Attacking wise Nisbet has quality and big Mykola was contributing goals before his injury. Youan is starting to show his worth and McGeady is now back in contention.

Any signings need to be for the gaping hole in centre mid and some solid no nonesense defenders, especially with Porteous looking likely for the off

[neil7908]

Marshall is as good as we will get in this league between the sticks.
Attacking wise Nisbet has quality and big Mykola was contributing goals before his injury. Youan is starting to show his worth and McGeady is now back in contention.

Any signings need to be for the gaping hole in centre mid and some solid no nonesense defenders, especially with Porteous looking likely for the off

Agree 100%. Boyles injury is a real shame but him, Nisbet, Youan and the big Ukrainian lad sounds like a decent set of attacking options, with Magennis also chipping in.

But I honestly wouldn't be sorry to see any other midfielders or defenders go. None of them stand out and simply put, don't look like players we can build a team with. Marshall can stay and Rocky tbf has done just enough.

But that's at least 5 or 6 proper first team players we need. Not untested youngsters or bench warmers - guys that are SPL ready.

The money spent on Melkerson and McKirdy looks like a shocking waste if the fees quoted are to be believed.

[big gogs]

Agree 100%. Boyles injury is a real shame but him, Nisbet, Youan and the big Ukrainian lad sounds like a decent set of attacking options, with Magennis also chipping in.

But I honestly wouldn't be sorry to see any other midfielders or defenders go. None of them stand out and simply put, don't look like players we can build a team with. Marshall can stay and Rocky tbf has done just enough.

But that's at least 5 or 6 proper first team players we need.

The money spent on Melkerson and McKirdy looks like a shocking waste if the fees quoted are to be believed.
Can you tell me the reported fees spent on the players.thanks .

[Unseen work]

Marshall is as good as we will get in this league between the sticks.
Attacking wise Nisbet has quality and big Mykola was contributing goals before his injury. Youan is starting to show his worth and McGeady is now back in contention.

Any signings need to be for the gaping hole in centre mid and some solid no nonesense defenders, especially with Porteous looking likely for the off

I’m with you, I don’t think we need too many signings to vastly improve our team.

Needs to be quality though and instant starters no match fitness or settling issues. Come in and hit the ground running

[neil7908]

Can you tell me the reported fees spent on the players.thanks .

£350k for each, although nothing official from Hibs.

[Scotty Leither]

£350k for each, although nothing official from Hibs.

I’d be very surprised if we paid £350k for the two of them combined.

[neil7908]

I’d be very surprised if we paid £350k for the two of them combined.

Melkerson is widely reported as £350k by multiple, reputable outlets. McKirdy is harder to find info on but I wouldn't be surprised if we paid several hundred thousand for him.

I think it's very likely we've paid over £500k for the two of them.

[Scotty Leither]

Melkerson is widely reported as £350k by multiple, reputable outlets. McKirdy is harder to find info on but I wouldn't be surprised if we paid several hundred thousand for him.

I think it's very likely we've paid over £500k for the two of them.

Nah sorry, nae offence pal but I seriously doubt that. The amount of BS the club feeds us on transfers makes that figure of £500k scarcely credible IMO.

For example , I’m sure when the other “marquee signing “ Chris Meuller went back to the States, he moved very quickly to another club; Hibs didn’t receive any transfer fee for him, it went to the club we got him from in the first place.

I could be wrong and stand to be corrected, but it panned out similar to how I’ve described it above.

Our transfer and recruitment “policy”, or who scouts players/who signs off is a total shambles and it needs changing or scrapped, but I suspect we’re too far invested into it now for it to change.

Either way it’s not working and it’ll require a huge amount of humble pie to be consumed by our owner to admit him and his son have got it wrong.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

He’s an 8 for me, but yes when the manager is injuring you in training you are going to struggle.

8 out of 10? Surely not, he's gash.

[JamesHFC]

I really can’t see Johnson sticking with Hanlon much longer.

Look at the defending tonight

https://twitter.com/scotlandsky/status/1608213021616136192?s=46&t=KhgtWSMMmFkJHC2FPRYDEg

Kyogo starts in front of him and for whatever reason he completely leaves him when there is no other threat whatsoever

It's time to replace Hanlon as a starter. Would keep him within the squad as he's a respected leader within the team and against the more average sides he's good enough if needed. At least two new centre backs needed in the coming months.

[jeffers]

Nah sorry, nae offence pal but I seriously doubt that. The amount of BS the club feeds us on transfers makes that figure of £500k scarcely credible IMO.

For example , I’m sure when the other “marquee signing “ Chris Meuller went back to the States, he moved very quickly to another club; Hibs didn’t receive any transfer fee for him, it went to the club we got him from in the first place.

I could be wrong and stand to be corrected, but it panned out similar to how I’ve described it above.

Our transfer and recruitment “policy”, or who scouts players/who signs off is a total shambles and it needs changing or scrapped, but I suspect we’re too far invested into it now for it to change.

Either way it’s not working and it’ll require a huge amount of humble pie to be consumed by our owner to admit him and his son have got it wrong.

The figure quoted for Melkersen is slightly less than I heard, no idea what we paid for McKirdy. For the first time since we were getting the Setanta money I believe we are paying decent fees and wages. Unfortunately it’s on players who aren’t ready/good enough. Add in the six figure sum we paid to sign the assistant’s laddie.

Re Mueller I’m sure we got him on a free, let him go back to the states on the same basis ‘cos we were paying him a ridiculous wage and were just glad to get him off our wage bill.

[MrRobot]

The figure quoted for Melkersen is slightly less than I heard, no idea what we paid for McKirdy. For the first time since we were getting the Setanta money I believe we are paying decent fees and wages. Unfortunately it’s on players who aren’t ready/good enough. Add in the six figure sum we paid to sign the assistant’s laddie.

Re Mueller I’m sure we got him on a free, let him go back to the states on the same basis ‘cos we were paying him a ridiculous wage and were just glad to get him off our wage bill.

We did get him on a free, no idea why any fee receive would be due to his previous club.

[CapitalGreen]

We did get him on a free, no idea why any fee receive would be due to his previous club.

It’s part of how the franchise system works in US sports. All players* are technically contracted to the league and teams acquire the rights to players for a set period of time (say 5 years for example). Mueller left the MLS but Orlando still had time left on the rights they had on him. Therefore, when Mueller returned to MLS, in order for Chicago to get him, they had to acquire his rights from Orlando.

*I think designated players like Bale etc are exempt from this system.

[MrRobot]

It’s part of how the franchise system works in US sports. All players* are technically contracted to the league and teams acquire the rights to players for a set period of time (say 5 years for example). Mueller left the MLS but Orlando still had time left on the rights they had on him. Therefore, when Mueller returned to MLS, in order for Chicago to get him, they had to acquire his rights from Orlando.

*I think designated players like Bale etc are exempt from this system.

I never knew that, seems a strange way to deal with transfers. Does this usually work in a way that makes it fairer to clubs to evenly distribute out players if similar quality to all clubs?

[CapitalGreen]

I never knew that, seems a strange way to deal with transfers. Does this usually work in a way that makes it fairer to clubs to evenly distribute out players if similar quality to all clubs?

That’s the general aim of it along with the draft and salary caps etc. However, with the designated player rules, some of the big city franchises (LA or NY) can attract big name players from abroad that smaller franchises couldn’t.

[thebausburst]

We could do worse than look at the proven SPL players out of contract this summer and so free to sign pre contracts in Jan then try to negotiate minimal fee to get them in. I’m thinking guys like -

Fitzwater (Livi, centre half)
Stephen O’Donnell (we need a right back and he’d be an improvement)
Nouble (Livi forward real handful imo, imagine if we had him for Mondays game)
Brophy (upgrade imo on the likes of McKirdy/Melkerson etc)

I know everyone will now start slagging off the above and telling me how crap they are but the point is these are proven SPL players capable of going straight in the team, not punts or laddies.

[PHeffernan]

We could do worse than look at the proven SPL players out of contract this summer and so free to sign pre contracts in Jan then try to negotiate minimal fee to get them in. I’m thinking guys like -

Fitzwater (Livi, centre half)
Stephen O’Donnell (we need a right back and he’d be an improvement)
Nouble (Livi forward real handful imo, imagine if we had him for Mondays game)
Brophy (upgrade imo on the likes of McKirdy/Melkerson etc)

I know everyone will now start slagging off the above and telling me how crap they are but the point is these are proven SPL players capable of going straight in the team, not punts or laddies.

Nouble is a non starter. Livingston have a years option which they are going to activate.
Fitzwater would do a job.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We could do worse than look at the proven SPL players out of contract this summer and so free to sign pre contracts in Jan then try to negotiate minimal fee to get them in. I’m thinking guys like -

Fitzwater (Livi, centre half)
Stephen O’Donnell (we need a right back and he’d be an improvement)
Nouble (Livi forward real handful imo, imagine if we had him for Mondays game)
Brophy (upgrade imo on the likes of McKirdy/Melkerson etc)

I know everyone will now start slagging off the above and telling me how crap they are but the point is these are proven SPL players capable of going straight in the team, not punts or laddies.

I’d take Fitzwater.

Wouldn’t fancy any of the others.

[madhatter]

We could do worse than look at the proven SPL players out of contract this summer and so free to sign pre contracts in Jan then try to negotiate minimal fee to get them in. I’m thinking guys like -

Fitzwater (Livi, centre half)
Stephen O’Donnell (we need a right back and he’d be an improvement)
Nouble (Livi forward real handful imo, imagine if we had him for Mondays game)
Brophy (upgrade imo on the likes of McKirdy/Melkerson etc)

I know everyone will now start slagging off the above and telling me how crap they are but the point is these are proven SPL players capable of going straight in the team, not punts or laddies.

Not really slagging off but the "proven" thing doesn't really mean as much as people make out.

Gogic, Doyle-Hayes as recent examples of players that never really made any sustainable impact even though they had been in SPL for a while. Previous to that? Our relegation year shows it best - Owain Tudur Jones, Heffernan, Maybury, Nelson, Craig and Robertson.

[number9dream]

We could do worse than look at the proven SPL players out of contract this summer and so free to sign pre contracts in Jan then try to negotiate minimal fee to get them in. I’m thinking guys like -

Fitzwater (Livi, centre half)
Stephen O’Donnell (we need a right back and he’d be an improvement)
Nouble (Livi forward real handful imo, imagine if we had him for Mondays game)
Brophy (upgrade imo on the likes of McKirdy/Melkerson etc)

I know everyone will now start slagging off the above and telling me how crap they are but the point is these are proven SPL players capable of going straight in the team, not punts or laddies.

We need at least two centre-backs. I’d take Fitzwater or Alex Iacovitti from County. Both 25, both had a few seasons in this league. The latter is left sided too.

[Edinburgh Green]

We need at least two centre-backs. I’d take Fitzwater or Alex Iacovitti from County. Both 25, both had a few seasons in this league. The latter is left sided too.

Both very average imho

[S4uzee]

Both very average imho

Wouldn’t even say average

[Hibiza]

Wouldn’t even say average

Unfortunately " average " would seem to be an upgrade.

[HendoDelivered]

We could do worse than look at the proven SPL players out of contract this summer and so free to sign pre contracts in Jan then try to negotiate minimal fee to get them in. I’m thinking guys like -

Fitzwater (Livi, centre half)
Stephen O’Donnell (we need a right back and he’d be an improvement)
Nouble (Livi forward real handful imo, imagine if we had him for Mondays game)
Brophy (upgrade imo on the likes of McKirdy/Melkerson etc)

I know everyone will now start slagging off the above and telling me how crap they are but the point is these are proven SPL players capable of going straight in the team, not punts or laddies.

Get the incentive but probably not the kind of signings that are going to push us on IMO.

[04Sauzee]

We need at least two centre-backs. I’d take Fitzwater or Alex Iacovitti from County. Both 25, both had a few seasons in this league. The latter is left sided too.

Someone suggested Fitzwater earlier in the thread so paid close attention to him on Xmas Eve and I'd rather not tbh

[Tyler Durden]

Nah sorry, nae offence pal but I seriously doubt that. The amount of BS the club feeds us on transfers makes that figure of £500k scarcely credible IMO.

For example , I’m sure when the other “marquee signing “ Chris Meuller went back to the States, he moved very quickly to another club; Hibs didn’t receive any transfer fee for him, it went to the club we got him from in the first place.

I could be wrong and stand to be corrected, but it panned out similar to how I’ve described it above.

Our transfer and recruitment “policy”, or who scouts players/who signs off is a total shambles and it needs changing or scrapped, but I suspect we’re too far invested into it now for it to change.

Either way it’s not working and it’ll require a huge amount of humble pie to be consumed by our owner to admit him and his son have got it wrong.

The Mueller situation is well documented and totally irrelevant to Melkersen and McKirdy. You are clearly wrong with regard to those 2. Both valued at their prior clubs with independent sources quoting the types of fees that have been suggested here

[Brightside]

I’d take Fitzwater.

Wouldn’t fancy any of the others.

Did you watch him against us? He was awful.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Did you watch him against us? He was awful.

Their whole team was awful. I’ve seen him previously and thought he was decent.

[MrRobot]

That’s the general aim of it along with the draft and salary caps etc. However, with the designated player rules, some of the big city franchises (LA or NY) can attract big name players from abroad that smaller franchises couldn’t.

Actually quite interesting how it works. Kind of evens the playing field minus the potential big name signing. Must make the league more exciting than the same 2 running away with it every year

[Steven79]

Actually quite interesting how it works. Kind of evens the playing field minus the potential big name signing. Must make the league more exciting than the same 2 running away with it every yearIt's ironic that a country that's is so capitalism loves sports that are run in such a communist way.

Do you think they have twigged in the states? [emoji1787]

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[Callum_62]

I see Reagan Hendry and that defender we were linked with are not in the FGR squad tonight

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[MrRobot]

It's ironic that a country that's is so capitalism loves sports that are run in such a communist way.

Do you think they have twigged in the states? [emoji1787]

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:greengrin

[Bridge hibs]

I see Reagan Hendry and that defender we were linked with are not in the FGR squad tonight

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkHave we been linked with Reagan Hendry ?

Hendry is on the bench tonight

[04Sauzee]

I see Reagan Hendry and that defender we were linked with are not in the FGR squad tonight

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Genuinely must have missed this but what defender? And haven't seen us linked with Hendry?

[1875Sean]

Have we been linked with Reagan Hendry ?

Hendry is on the bench tonight

I think we were linked with him while before his move when he was at Raith, not heard us being back in for him now

[bingo70]

Genuinely must have missed this but what defender? And haven't seen us linked with Hendry?

It was rumoured somewhere the deal for JDH is a swap deal so people have put 2 and 2 together. It’s not been rumoured anywhere reputable.

The defender linked goes back to the summer there was somebody adamant we were about to sign a defender that was a league winner in England last year, process of elimination took us back to some FGR defender, can’t remember his name though.

[Unseen work]

I couldn’t believe we never went for Hendry when he left Raith, thought he was a really good player.

I assume Godwin Malife is the defender?

Not seen the rumours though

[04Sauzee]

It was rumoured somewhere the deal for JDH is a swap deal so people have put 2 and 2 together. It’s not been rumoured anywhere reputable.

The defender linked goes back to the summer there was somebody adamant we were about to sign a defender that was a league winner in England last year, process of elimination took us back to some FGR defender, can’t remember his name though.

Ah yeah I remember now about the CB from the summer and hadn't heard the swap rumour. Think Hendry has come off the subs bench .

[Bridge hibs]

I think we were linked with him while before his move when he was at Raith, not heard us being back in for him nowAh cheers mate 👍

[eastmainsmsh]

Hope it’s McGeouch if a swap

[flash]

I see Reagan Hendry and that defender we were linked with are not in the FGR squad tonight

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They are both on the bench.

[Bridge hibs]

They are both on the bench.

Both just came on 55th minute

[McD]

Hope it’s McGeouch if a swap


i wouldn’t be against it, but it’s doubtful, given FGR have only just signed him a few weeks ago, and that DM was a free agent for several months and we didn’t appear to fancy him

[SHODAN]

Hope it’s McGeouch if a swap

Assume that won't be allowed unless he didn't play for Aberdeen.

[SHODAN]

Would expect we are trying to offload the following, minimum:
Cabraja
Porteous (if replacement signed)
Doyle-Hayes
Tavares (possibly on loan)
Henderson
Mitchell
Dabrowski
Hauge (possibly on loan)

Would free up a fair bit of wages IF we can get at least half of them moved on. Again though, I have no faith that we'll sign any better unless the rumours are true that Gordon Jr is off recruitment duty.

[Donegal Hibby]

Both just came on 55th minute
Sorry ,. Who's the defender ?

[CapitalGreen]

Sorry ,. Who's the defender ?

Godwin-Malife. Was linked by someone during the summer but don’t think there was much substance to it.

[Donegal Hibby]

Godwin-Malife. Was linked by someone during the summer but don’t think there was much substance to it.
Cheers , never heard of him to be honest.

[Scotty Leither]

[QUOTE=CapitalGreen;7206850]It’s part of how the franchise system works in US sports. All players* are technically contracted to the league and teams acquire the rights to players for a set period of time (say 5 years for example). Mueller left the MLS but Orlando still had time left on the rights they had on him. Therefore, when Mueller returned to MLS, in order for Chicago to get him, they had to acquire his rights from Orlando. QUOTE]

Thanks for articulating this better than I did; the gist of what I thought I had read about the deal was indeed that any monies paid by Chicago went to Orlando, as you’ve outlined above.

So in summary we got him for nowt, he was presented to us as someone we’d been after a long time, he came in, looked like he had the heart of a mouse, and contributed the square root of **** all and was despatched back to the States, and we made nae money on the guy.

Another cheap punt who came in amidst a fanfare and left as another “experiment” that failed, much like most of Ian Gordon’s signings.

[Eyrie]

Would expect we are trying to offload the following, minimum:
Cabraja
Porteous (if replacement signed)
Doyle-Hayes
Tavares (possibly on loan)
Henderson
Mitchell
Dabrowski
Hauge (possibly on loan)

Would free up a fair bit of wages IF we can get at least half of them moved on. Again though, I have no faith that we'll sign any better unless the rumours are true that Gordon Jr is off recruitment duty.

Cabraja is the only one of those I'd give more time before deciding in the summer.

In January I'd also add McKirdy to the list if we get a decent offer and look to get Melkerson game time by loaning him out.

[Unseen work]

Someone on Twitter saying Aberdeen are after ex hibee Johnathon grounds as well as Kevin long.

[SMAXXA]

[QUOTE=CapitalGreen;7206850]It’s part of how the franchise system works in US sports. All players* are technically contracted to the league and teams acquire the rights to players for a set period of time (say 5 years for example). Mueller left the MLS but Orlando still had time left on the rights they had on him. Therefore, when Mueller returned to MLS, in order for Chicago to get him, they had to acquire his rights from Orlando. QUOTE]

Thanks for articulating this better than I did; the gist of what I thought I had read about the deal was indeed that any monies paid by Chicago went to Orlando, as you’ve outlined above.

So in summary we got him for nowt, he was presented to us as someone we’d been after a long time, he came in, looked like he had the heart of a mouse, and contributed the square root of **** all and was despatched back to the States, and we made nae money on the guy.

Another cheap punt who came in amidst a fanfare and left as another “experiment” that failed, much like most of Ian Gordon’s signings.

Part of me doesn’t mind that we have tried something different in the transfer strategy/market even though it’s not worked so far as long as we take the learns from it and it makes us better going forward. To be balanced it’s not like before RG came in we we’re ripping it up with a plethora of unearthed talent and at that time most fans were moaning about us signing lower league English players or players from smaller Scottish clubs. It wasn’t really working back then and clearly isn’t now but trying a new approach and an element of the previous probably is the middle ground we need to be at, the proof of the pudding going forward is have we taken the learns, quickly and we improve the quality of player we bring in on a consistent basis. If we have the wrong people in charge of identifying these players and getting them to sign well we change that like any other role as long as the club itself retain the lessons learned.

We arnt alone BTW in signing some crap and I’ve seen it from loads of teams in our league as long as I can remember, with our clubs finances teams are always likely to have to take a chance on players, bring through your own or players that are on their way out such as McGeady, fletcher, snodgrass etc. Unfortunately for us is we are still in an infancy of a new manager in the grand scheme of things, probably realising players he was initially encouraged by are not as good as he thought and the signings we made were all generally identified and ready to go (felt a bit scatter gun at points where I genuinely think January and the summer will be LJ signings and it will improve us).

We have played 3 games since the break and lost 2 we would expect to lose and did well in spells in both and won a game convincingly against a club we have always toiled against. I don’t think we are at panic stations yet next couple of months will define our season imo.

[NC1875]

Would expect we are trying to offload the following, minimum:
Cabraja
Porteous (if replacement signed)
Doyle-Hayes
Tavares (possibly on loan)
Henderson
Mitchell
Dabrowski
Hauge (possibly on loan)

Would free up a fair bit of wages IF we can get at least half of them moved on. Again though, I have no faith that we'll sign any better unless the rumours are true that Gordon Jr is off recruitment duty.

What’s the rumours about Ian Gordon? Haven’t seen or heard anything

[Slim Shady]

Asked Dylan at the HSF match if he fancied coming back.

His words “I’ve asked loads, been told I’m too old!!”

29 years of age.

[Eyrie]

Asked Dylan at the HSF match if he fancied coming back.

His words “I’ve asked loads, been told I’m too old!!”

29 years of age.

If he wasn't one of our Scottish Cup winning heroes then few on here would want us to sign someone who didn't stand out at Aberdeen and made 36 appearances in two and a half seasons. Add in the injury issues earlier in his career and there would be even less interest.

The 2022 McGeouch isn't the player we remember anymore than the 2022 Griffiths is the player we had on loan ten years ago.

[Allant1981]

Asked Dylan at the HSF match if he fancied coming back.

His words “I’ve asked loads, been told I’m too old!!”

29 years of age.

Or he isn't good enough any longer? There is a reason aberdeen hardly played him and let him go

[Heisenberg]

Asked Dylan at the HSF match if he fancied coming back.

His words “I’ve asked loads, been told I’m too old!!”

29 years of age.

I think that’s maybe just been a nicer way of telling him no. It doesn’t stand up to much scrutiny considering we’ve signed older players very recently.

[eastmainsmsh]

Connor Wickham at FGR always pretty decent wouldn’t mind him in a swap lol

[ScottB]

It's ironic that a country that's is so capitalism loves sports that are run in such a communist way.

Do you think they have twigged in the states? [emoji1787]

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You could look at it that way, or you could see a system setup to ensure a largely closed off group of owners maximise their profits…

It probably is a better system overall mind, but that’s the main reason we see US owners complaining about relegation and the like, it’s an unnecessary threat to their pockets.

[Donegal Hibby]

I read that Celtic have signed there 6th Japanese player " Tomoki Iwata " there are also after another from Korea and hertz have been given the green light by the SFA for there Japanese player , definitely would like to see us look into this market for players apart from the young guy we have from the Philippines have we ever had any other players from Asia?

[Paulie Walnuts]

I read that Celtic have signed there 6th Japanese player " Tomoki Iwata " there are also after another from Korea and hertz have been given the green light by the SFA for there Japanese player , definitely would like to see us look into this market for players apart from the young guy we have from the Philippines have we ever had any other players from Asia?

Not a player but Maloney was born in Asia.

[Up-the-slope]

[QUOTE=Scotty Leither;7207319]

Part of me doesn’t mind that we have tried something different in the transfer strategy/market even though it’s not worked so far as long as we take the learns from it and it makes us better going forward. To be balanced it’s not like before RG came in we we’re ripping it up with a plethora of unearthed talent and at that time most fans were moaning about us signing lower league English players or players from smaller Scottish clubs. It wasn’t really working back then and clearly isn’t now but trying a new approach and an element of the previous probably is the middle ground we need to be at, the proof of the pudding going forward is have we taken the learns, quickly and we improve the quality of player we bring in on a consistent basis. If we have the wrong people in charge of identifying these players and getting them to sign well we change that like any other role as long as the club itself retain the lessons learned.

We arnt alone BTW in signing some crap and I’ve seen it from loads of teams in our league as long as I can remember, with our clubs finances teams are always likely to have to take a chance on players, bring through your own or players that are on their way out such as McGeady, fletcher, snodgrass etc. Unfortunately for us is we are still in an infancy of a new manager in the grand scheme of things, probably realising players he was initially encouraged by are not as good as he thought and the signings we made were all generally identified and ready to go (felt a bit scatter gun at points where I genuinely think January and the summer will be LJ signings and it will improve us).

We have played 3 games since the break and lost 2 we would expect to lose and did well in spells in both and won a game convincingly against a club we have always toiled against. I don’t think we are at panic stations yet next couple of months will define our season imo.

:agree:.

[Scorrie]

I read that Celtic have signed there 6th Japanese player " Tomoki Iwata " there are also after another from Korea and hertz have been given the green light by the SFA for there Japanese player , definitely would like to see us look into this market for players apart from the young guy we have from the Philippines have we ever had any other players from Asia?

Marciano ?

[Iain G]

What’s the rumours about Ian Gordon? Haven’t seen or heard anything

Apparently he is the son of Ron Gordon? Don't know if there is any truth in this though.

[Donegal Hibby]

Not a player but Maloney was born in Asia.


Marciano ?
Didn't realize Maloney was born in Asia , always presumed he was Scottish and forgot about Marciano . Two good shout's btw nobody's going to catch you guy's out that's for sure 😂

[Hibiza]

Apparently he is the son of Ron Gordon? Don't know if there is any truth in this though.

😂😂😂

[neil7908]

Ronaldo to Saudi confirmed.

[JohnM1875]

Ronaldo to Saudi confirmed.

Embarrassing end to his career. Move won't be about money though I'm sure 🙄

[Auckland Hibs]

Embarrassing end to his career. Move won't be about money though I'm sure 🙄

75m deal, definitely not about the money 😒

[Cat Stanton]

75m deal, definitely not about the money 😒

How much money can he possibly need though..?

[MWHIBBIES]

How much money can he possibly need though..?

His wealth is a fraction of the likes of Musk and Bezos. They seem to still want more, at least Ronaldo is actually working for it.

[HibeeMackenzie]

Maybe got some more victims to pay off

[Up-the-slope]

Its Partly why Pele & Messi will in history be seen more favorably than Maradona and CR7... 2 have shown a bit of class and lack of scandal while 2 have shown lack of respect to women and money being the main driver

[IberianHibernian]

Ronaldo to Saudi confirmed.Rumours that Sergio Busquets will go too but in summer . Both signings supposed to help Saudis chance of getting 2030 World Cup , Strange as a Spain / Portugal bid is one of the favourites . Not sure if 2nd Asian WC is permitted so soon but I suppose money talks .

[neil7908]

Embarrassing end to his career. Move won't be about money though I'm sure 🙄

Yup. And I wonder where all the big European clubs are? Wasn't it Man United at fault and he would walk into another Champions League team to show them he still has it?

[Unseen work]

Steven Caulker?

Free agent now.

[Torto7]

Its Partly why Pele & Messi will in history be seen more favorably than Maradona and CR7... 2 have shown a bit of class and lack of scandal while 2 have shown lack of respect to women and money being the main driver

Yeah Messi wasn't greedy at all bankrupting Barca avoiding his taxes then moving to the sports washing Parisians. What a stand up guy. Maradona was hardly a saint either. Narcotics being his mistress. The truth is they're all overpaid f@nnies who have an army of sycophant's willing to argue they are worth it. None of them are worth it, it's just the system that deems them worthy for kicking a ball around. I'd bet Ronaldo barely paid a penny in tax for his most recent spell with Man U.

[hibee1875]

Steven Caulker?

Free agent now.

Dundee flop?

[04Sauzee]

Dundee flop?

Was he a flop at Dundee? Thought they turned down a bid of something north of £1m for him?

[Bridge hibs]

Dundee flop?Dundee flop ?


Dundee rejected a club-record bid for Caulker from Norwegian champions Rosenborg. In the late hours of the transfer window on 31 August, Caulker left Dundee, after he triggered a clause in his contract

[Crab apple]

Steven Caulker?

Free agent now.

I can't remember him at Dundee but he has a decent pedigree. Captains his national team and most recently was playing at a decent level in Turkey.

[HendoDelivered]

Dundee flop?

Far from it

[SMAXXA]

Dundee flop?

shows what your knowledge of football is with one post 🙈😂

[The Modfather]

Ronaldo to Saudi confirmed.

There will need to be an asterisk added to his goals record from now on given he’s essentially retired.

[bingo70]

See Alan Nixon in his preview of his stories tomorrow is saying there’s one about Hibs.

I’d imagine it’ll be about Porteous going somewhere but be interesting to keep an eye on that in case it’s anything more exciting.

[GloryGlory]

See Alan Nixon in his preview of his stories tomorrow is saying there’s one about Hibs.

I’d imagine it’ll be about Porteous going somewhere but be interesting to keep an eye on that in case it’s anything more exciting.

Have any of his rumours about Hibs ever been accurate?

[Iain G]

See Alan Nixon in his preview of his stories tomorrow is saying there’s one about Hibs.

I’d imagine it’ll be about Porteous going somewhere but be interesting to keep an eye on that in case it’s anything more exciting.

Maybe someone has put 2 and 2 together and worked out Ian and Ron Gordon are related?

[bingo70]

Have any of his rumours about Hibs ever been accurate?

Depends how you define accurate 😃

Just because we didn’t sign a player he’s linked us with, doesn’t mean we weren’t interested in them.

[Bridge hibs]

Depends how you define accurate 😃

Just because we didn’t sign a player he’s linked us with, doesn’t mean we weren’t interested in them.I suppose being in Nixons position he would come up with a scoop or two that actually happen, there has been more accuracy posted on here by one or two of our trusted posters over the years 🤣

[bingo70]

I suppose being in Nixons position he would come up with a scoop or two that actually happen, there has been more accuracy posted on here by one or two of our trusted posters over the years 🤣

They’re few and far between though.

I’m not counting the people that pitch up on the eve of the transfer window opening saying things like they’ve heard we will be signing someone soon then have folk gushing over them begging for more info.

Real pet hate of mine on this forum (thankfully there’s certain posters like that no longer post on here 😜)

[Bridge hibs]

They’re few and far between though.

I’m not counting the people that pitch up on the eve of the transfer window opening saying things like they’ve heard we will be signing someone soon then have folk gushing over them begging for more info.

Real pet hate of mine on this forum (thankfully there’s certain posters like that no longer post on here 😜)To be honest I like the scoops whether they sound realistic or are far out there impossible as they create a bit of chat as well as the usual flapping by a few, I tend not to get sucked into it and normally dont believe it until the scarf is above the head and the appraisal of East mains training centre 😀

[Paulie Walnuts]

Embarrassing end to his career. Move won't be about money though I'm sure 🙄

Yup.

I know it’s easy to say when you’re not in his position, but the guy can’t be far off being a billionaire already. He’s more money than he could ever spend.

I understand it more in business when people have obscene wealth and carry on working. Often they’ve came from families with extreme wealth who will have hoarded money previously so it’ll be engrained in them to do that.

Footballers often come up from little though and I’m surprised you don’t see more of them doing something a bit more noble towards the end of their career. In Ronaldos case I would have loved to have seen him offer himself to Sporting Lisbon for free for launching his career or even go back to his home of Madeira and play for Nacional and give something back to his roots.

I’d like to think if I’d have the success of Ronaldo my first port of call now would have been to phone up Hibs and tell them I want to play for us and not take a penny for it. Not head out to a despicable place like Saudi Arabia to top up my bank account that I’ll already not be able to spend.

[neil7908]

Yup.

I know it’s easy to say when you’re not in his position, but the guy can’t be far off being a billionaire already. He’s more money than he could ever spend.

I understand it more in business when people have obscene wealth and carry on working. Often they’ve came from families with extreme wealth who will have hoarded money previously so it’ll be engrained in them to do that.

Footballers often come up from little though and I’m surprised you don’t see more of them doing something a bit more noble towards the end of their career. In Ronaldos case I would have loved to have seen him offer himself to Sporting Lisbon for free for launching his career or even go back to his home of Madeira and play for Nacional and give something back to his roots.

I’d like to think if I’d have the success of Ronaldo my first port of call now would have been to phone up Hibs and tell them I want to play for us and not take a penny for it. Not head out to a despicable place like Saudi Arabia to top up my bank account that I’ll already not be able to spend.

This 1000%

[04Sauzee]

I suppose being in Nixons position he would come up with a scoop or two that actually happen, there has been more accuracy posted on here by one or two of our trusted posters over the years 🤣

Nixon was adamant that we were after Stockton in the summer, not sure if there was any truth in that?

[JohnM1875]

Yup.

I know it’s easy to say when you’re not in his position, but the guy can’t be far off being a billionaire already. He’s more money than he could ever spend.

I understand it more in business when people have obscene wealth and carry on working. Often they’ve came from families with extreme wealth who will have hoarded money previously so it’ll be engrained in them to do that.

Footballers often come up from little though and I’m surprised you don’t see more of them doing something a bit more noble towards the end of their career. In Ronaldos case I would have loved to have seen him offer himself to Sporting Lisbon for free for launching his career or even go back to his home of Madeira and play for Nacional and give something back to his roots.

I’d like to think if I’d have the success of Ronaldo my first port of call now would have been to phone up Hibs and tell them I want to play for us and not take a penny for it. Not head out to a despicable place like Saudi Arabia to top up my bank account that I’ll already not be able to spend.

Totally agree and so does Hector Bellerín.

"We're the people that should pay the most tax. I come from a family that had to make miracles to eat well some months."

"Everyone wants to earn more, be more comfortable, but I think you have to look beyond your situation, at society."

[SHODAN]

See Alan Nixon in his preview of his stories tomorrow is saying there’s one about Hibs.

I’d imagine it’ll be about Porteous going somewhere but be interesting to keep an eye on that in case it’s anything more exciting.

Hibs linked with a player.

Two days later - Aberdeen sign him.

Nixon: Hibs miss out to Dons again.

[keep the faith]

Does anyone know if the lad Allan Campbell worked out at Luton? He is exactly the type we need.

[Billy Whizz]

Does anyone know if the lad Allan Campbell worked out at Luton? He is exactly the type we need.

Plays every week for them

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Hibs linked with a player.

Two days later - Aberdeen sign him.

Nixon: Hibs miss out to Dons again.

New Year's resolution has to be to stop missing out on players that we were never in for. It's beyond the joke.

[bingo70]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9995544/ryan-porteous-replacement-hibs-watford-move-scotland-international-defender/

Pish exclusive from Alan Nixon.

[Scorrie]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9995544/ryan-porteous-replacement-hibs-watford-move-scotland-international-defender/

Pish exclusive from Alan Nixon.

I could have written that about three days ago!

[ozhibs]

To be honest I like the scoops whether they sound realistic or are far out there impossible as they create a bit of chat as well as the usual flapping by a few, I tend not to get sucked into it and normally dont believe it until the scarf is above the head and the appraisal of East mains training centre 😀

This is where I’m at, love the rumours, plus being in OZ I’ve never heard of half the players
GGTTH

[SHODAN]

Hope Long signs for Aberdeen.

[Donegal Hibby]

Hope Long signs for Aberdeen.
Can I ask why mate ?

[GreenCastle]

Transfer window opens very shortly..

Over to you Hibs recruitment and LJ to start sorting us out.

[Donegal Hibby]

Transfer window opens very shortly..

Over to you Hibs recruitment and LJ to start sorting us out.
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/lee-johnson-makes-hibs-recruitment-admission-as-door-opens-for-transfer-window-departures-3970844
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/happy-new-year-hibees-1

[keep the faith]

Plays every week for them

Cheers. He's a good player.

[Tyler Durden]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/lee-johnson-makes-hibs-recruitment-admission-as-door-opens-for-transfer-window-departures-3970844
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/happy-new-year-hibees-1

Lee Johnson’s choice of words is hilarious. “Infiltrate the squad”. “In their plight..”. FFS

[Bridge hibs]

Lee Johnson’s choice of words is hilarious. “Infiltrate the squad”. “In their plight..”. FFSTo enter or become established or be able to integrate, perhaps not the best choice of words but Im sure you get the gist of what he is saying

“We had, and have, too many who are not going to infiltrate the first XI enough for them to progress their careers.

“We need to make them aware, allow their agents to go and do their work, help them in their plight to get a new club, and that’s the right thing to do.

Its what many on here are wanting isnt it ?

[GreenCastle]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/lee-johnson-makes-hibs-recruitment-admission-as-door-opens-for-transfer-window-departures-3970844
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/happy-new-year-hibees-1

Sounds like some players don’t want to move as on comfortable contracts.

Would love to know how many have been told they can leave and how that affects morale / selection / performances on match day.

[Libby Hibby]

Asked Dylan at the HSF match if he fancied coming back.

His words “I’ve asked loads, been told I’m too old!!”

29 years of age.

He said the exact same to me at the Derby in August.

[BSEJVT]

Sounds like some players don’t want to move as on comfortable contracts.

That's the problem for clubs like Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen.

This is the best gig these players are ever likely to get and if their signings don't work out they are not easy to move on.

You end up with too many players, many of whom haven't a chance of playing, they clog up training and can easily become a malignant presence around the club, some without even meaning to be so.

They are pissed off, feel promises made were undelivered, tell their mates in similar situation and so it spreads.

Huge clearout required, regardless of costs of doing so.

There will need to come a point where the Development Team model is seriously scrutinised, it's early days but there isn't a sign of one single player progressing from there.

[H18 SFR]

Sounds like some players don’t want to move as on comfortable contracts.

Would love to know how many have been told they can leave and how that affects morale / selection / performances on match day.

Your concerns are very legitimate, however it’s clearly a necessary evil.

[Gmack7]

Sounds like some players don’t want to move as on comfortable contracts.

Would love to know how many have been told they can leave and how that affects morale / selection / performances on match day.
I'm wondering if any of the players he wants to move on were signed on his watch. There must be a couple at least

[Dmas]

That's the problem for clubs like Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen.

This is the best gig these players are ever likely to get and if their signings don't work out they are not easy to move on.

You end up with too many players, many of whom haven't a chance of playing, they clog up training and can easily become a malignant presence around the club, some without even meaning to be so.

They are pissed off, feel promises made were undelivered, tell their mates in similar situation and so it spreads.

Huge clearout required, regardless of costs of doing so.

There will need to come a point where the Development Team model is seriously scrutinised, it's early days but there isn't a sign of one single player progressing from there.

Don’t see how being on our 3rd manager in 12 months helps these guys on development teams, clearly there is some good work being done at youth level with last season success and it continuing into this year with the u18 euro run but how can you expect someone 4/5 months in the door to have faith in giving them a shot? Especially when your on a poor run of results that will have people shouting for the sack soon enough then the process continues with the next guy, only way the development squad benefits the way it’s supposed too is by having stability at management level and we look like we’re still shaky on that

[Donegal Hibby]

Pure guess work here on my part but does anyone remember the name of the Aussie midfielder we were supposedly close to signing only for it to fall thru due to one of his family being unwell ? Could this be one that we could maybe try again or has that ship sail ?

[BSEJVT]

Don’t see how being on our 3rd manager in 12 months helps these guys on development teams, clearly there is some good work being done at youth level with last season success and it continuing into this year with the u18 euro run but how can you expect someone 4/5 months in the door to have faith in giving them a shot? Especially when your on a poor run of results that will have people shouting for the sack soon enough then the process continues with the next guy, only way the development squad benefits the way it’s supposed too is by having stability at management level and we look like we’re still shaky on that

I have no problem at all with the club continuing to develop its youth players and we should always strive and absolutely need to do that, the throughput to first team regulars though is very poor.

I think what we have done is created an artificial environment (the development team) to enable us to hedge our bets by keeping some of the boys on, who had outgrown the youth team.

In principle, I can cope with that, but we seem to use that to stifle their development rather than accelerate it. In doing so we have signed oodles of players to facilitate this, none of whom at this admittedly early stage seem other than squad fillers to give the youth players someone to play with. We simply cannot afford to do this when the first-team squad is so bereft of talent and character.

We are never going to find out if some / any of these young guys are capable of playing in the first team if we don't let them. Other clubs do, including EPL ones, why wont we?

I get the toxic environment argument, but guys like Thomson, Brown, Whittaker, Riordan & O' Connor (albeit they were exceptional) flourished in that.

In recent years we have seen young guys on the books to age 22 or beyond who seldom if ever made first-team appearances and have gone on to do nothing after Hibs.

Football is a brutal game and maybe we need to be a bit more brutal with our youngsters, whether that is exposing them earlier to the strain or dispensing with them earlier to enable them to flourish either elsewhere or in other careers.

[Tyler Durden]

To enter or become established or be able to integrate, perhaps not the best choice of words but Im sure you get the gist of what he is saying

“We had, and have, too many who are not going to infiltrate the first XI enough for them to progress their careers.

“We need to make them aware, allow their agents to go and do their work, help them in their plight to get a new club, and that’s the right thing to do.

Its what many on here are wanting isnt it ?

Infiltrate suggests to enter surreptitiously.

A plight is a difficult or dangerous situation.

Del Boy stuff

[green day]

Infiltrate suggests to enter surreptitiously.

A plight is a difficult or dangerous situation.

Del Boy stuff

Not everybody has a brilliant grasp of English, and this can be more pronounced among people who have maybe concentrated on football at the expense of more formal education.

I know exactly what he was trying to say, even if his words were not the right ones.

[Forza Fred]

Pure guess work here on my part but does anyone remember the name of the Aussie midfielder we were supposedly close to signing only for it to fall thru due to one of his family being unwell ? Could this be one that we could maybe try again or has that ship sail ?

Jake Brimmer of Melbourne victory.

good player who spent a few early years at Liverpool.

No word here suggesting he will be moving to Scotland.

[Donegal Hibby]

Jake Brimmer of Melbourne victory.

good player who spent a few early years at Liverpool.

No word here suggesting he will be moving to Scotland.
Yes that's the guy , couldn't remember his name , I remember checking up on him the last time we were linked with and thought he looked a good player , he's got something like 13 goals in 50 odd appearance for Melbourne victory.

[Iain G]

Jake Brimmer of Melbourne victory.

good player who spent a few early years at Liverpool.

No word here suggesting he will be moving to Scotland.

We should have been in for Ben Waine at the Nix, see he has signed for Plymouth Argyle

[CropleyWasGod]

Hope Long signs for Aberdeen.

It's taken me a few hours, and a lot of Googling, to realise that Aberdeen haven't signed a player called Hope Long.

[HibbyAndy]

It's taken me a few hours, and a lot of Googling, to realise that Aberdeen haven't signed a player called Hope Long.

:tee hee::tee hee:

[Hibiza]

Not everybody has a brilliant grasp of English, and this can be more pronounced among people who have maybe concentrated on football at the expense of more formal education.

I know exactly what he was trying to say, even if his words were not the right ones.

Doesn't learn though Greenday. Habitual guff ( not just language ).

[SHODAN]

It's taken me a few hours, and a lot of Googling, to realise that Aberdeen haven't signed a player called Hope Long.

I realised that on reading back immediately after I posted and I am deeply sorry.

[CropleyWasGod]

I realised that on reading back immediately after I posted and I am deeply sorry.

😄

Don't be. I would only have spent the time watching crap festive telly 😉

[Donegal Hibby]

It's taken me a few hours, and a lot of Googling, to realise that Aberdeen haven't signed a player called Hope Long.
Look on the bright side of it , least it kept you busy for a few hours 😉

[Bridge hibs]

Doesn't learn though Greenday. Habitual guff ( not just language ).Dont listen to him or read what he has to say, will save you getting yourself all worked up about it

I couldnt give a **** if he churns out poetry or nursery rhymes everytime he gives interviews, I just want a winning team on the park

[Hibby70]

It's taken me a few hours, and a lot of Googling, to realise that Aberdeen haven't signed a player called Hope Long.

Googling Hope Solo instead might come up with more interesting results. 😬

[CropleyWasGod]

Googling Hope Solo instead might come up with more interesting results. 😬

Solo, or with a partner, hope is not something I've seen much of recently. 😀

[Iain G]

Googling Hope Solo instead might come up with more interesting results. 😬

Which leads to Hand Solo...

[sleeping giant]

Balde away to Arbroath on a free.

[Unseen work]

Balde away to Arbroath on a free.

Always seems a long shot him getting in the first team at his age and where we signed him from.

Good move for the lad though and hope he does well

[McGruber]

Always seems a long shot him getting in the first team at his age and where we signed him from.

Good move for the lad though and hope he does well

Agreed. Part of me wonders about the point of it all. Bring a young guy in to see if he does well or not. We put him out on loan at a club, he's their best player and one of the best in the division then binned. Fair enough, just wonder what we expected him to do

[Unseen work]

Mitchell not in the squad today, rightly after his posts before the Celtic game due to not being in the squad.

Imagine Johnson etc never knew he was acting like a 10 year old before replacing him for Kuharevych

[bingo70]

Mitchell not in the squad today, rightly after his posts before the Celtic game due to not being in the squad.

Imagine Johnson etc never knew he was acting like a 10 year old before replacing him for Kuharevych

What did he post before the Celtic game? That’s completely passed me by.

[Callum_62]

What did he post before the Celtic game? That’s completely passed me by.Something semi cryptic about loyalty

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[Fuzzywuzzy]

Sportsound said udinese talking to us about porteous

[The Modfather]

2 out 1 in, indeed!

[JDT]

That team needs cleared out, a bit like the season we were relegated and only had something like 6 players signed. Obviously that won't happen in January but still

[Unseen work]

Just posted on another thread but today Hearts we’re without

Bangingme
Boyce
Halkett
Haring
Gordon
Kinglsey
Mackay Steven

The majority are starters and all would start for us or be first sub on.

It shows the distance we need to do to get our squad to a high level.

We miss out on relatively obvious signings on paper to try and be fancy/signing loads for the development squad.

Hopefully we cut numbers massively and put the money towards quality

[Bridge hibs]

Just posted on another thread but today Hearts we’re without

Bangingme
Boyce
Halkett
Haring
Gordon
Kinglsey
Mackay Steven

The majority are starters and all would start for us or be first sub on.

It shows the distance we need to do to get our squad to a high level.

We miss out on relatively obvious signings on paper to try and be fancy/signing loads for the development squad.

Hopefully we cut numbers massively and put the money towards qualityBaningime is injury prone, Haring is utter pish, Halket is all heid and nowt much else and Mackay Steven is nothing more than a bit player now

[Heisenberg]

We need about four or five nailed on starters signed in January which is obviously not going to happen. What a **** up those in charge have made of the playing squad.

[Unseen work]

Baningime is injury prone, Haring is utter pish, Halket is all heid and nowt much else and Mackay Steven is nothing more than a bit player now

Whilst I think you’re bang on, I think they all start or would be important players for us

[Hibs4185]

Just posted on another thread but today Hearts we’re without

Bangingme
Boyce
Halkett
Haring
Gordon
Kinglsey
Mackay Steven

The majority are starters and all would start for us or be first sub on.

It shows the distance we need to do to get our squad to a high level.

We miss out on relatively obvious signings on paper to try and be fancy/signing loads for the development squad.

Hopefully we cut numbers massively and put the money towards quality

It does show that Joe Savage has turned them roind quite quickly from the shambles they were under Budge.

We need a Dempster/Savage appointment through the door before another 20 players

[Iain G]

It does show that Joe Savage has turned them roind quite quickly from the shambles they were under Budge.

We need a Dempster/Savage appointment through the door before another 20 players

Probably helps when your players don't all come through John Colquhoun!

[Is It On....]

It does show that Joe Savage has turned them roind quite quickly from the shambles they were under Budge.

We need a Dempster/Savage appointment through the door before another 20 players

We are currently where they were prior to the Savage/ Lancefield appointment. Things can turn very quickly but you need an acknowledgment that things have to change to get the correct people in charge. Fingers crossed that Kensall tells Gordon snr the recruitment is a mess and we need a proper professional in charge.

[McGruber]

Snodgrass was their best player today - available for ages. We just need to sign better.

[Scotty Leither]

Snodgrass was their best player today - available for ages. We just need to sign better.

We wouldn’t be able to sell him on, though. That appears to be the key criteria in recruiting players for this (absent) owner.

[Scorrie]

We wouldn’t be able to sell him on, though. That appears to be the key criteria in recruiting players for this (absent) owner.

Well that worked out well. Can’t see anyone buying the dross we’ve recently signed…

[Unseen work]

Snodgrass was their best player today - available for ages. We just need to sign better.

I mentioned him during the summer a couple of times and was surprised at just how many fans never wanted him.

[Stuart93]

Where’s the jokers who said shankland wasn’t a good signing by the way

[Greencore]

Where’s the jokers who said shankland wasn’t a good signing by the way

I was told doidge was better then him from about 5 folk on here 😂😂😂😂😂

[Paulie Walnuts]

Where’s the jokers who said shankland wasn’t a good signing by the way

And Mackay. And Halliday. And Snodgrass. And Kingsley.

The list goes on. All these guys would be a massive step up for us and other than Shankland I’d suspect we’d have been in with a shout at some point to get them before they went there. They’re too obvious for the sommelier though so we need to go for guys in the Portugal U23 league instead.

[Scotty Leither]

Where’s the jokers who said shankland wasn’t a good signing by the way

They’re the ones who slag us bedwetters for pointing out what’s obvious…buy proven SPL players and you generally guarantee a sustainable level of performance.

It’s better than computer stats and slickly packaged videos, but it seems Iain Gordon disagrees.

[B.H.F.C]

They’re the ones who slag us bedwetters for pointing out what’s obvious…buy proven SPL players and you generally guarantee a sustainable level of performance.

It’s better than computer stats and slickly packaged videos, but it seems Iain Gordon disagrees.

To be fair, Shankland wasn’t really proven at this level. He’s scored more goals in the league for Hearts this year than he’s got in this league in the rest of his career. I did think he’d do all right for them, not as well as he has though.

[SHODAN]

Where’s the jokers who said shankland wasn’t a good signing by the way

He only scores penalties blah blah blah blah blah blah blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Steven79]

Well that worked out well. Can’t see anyone buying the dross we’ve recently signed…Pub teams wouldn't want some of our players.

Defenders can't defend.

Midfielder that can't either cover the defence or create chances.

Strikers that miss absolute sitters.



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[MWHIBBIES]

He only scores penalties blah blah blah blah blah blah blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

He kinda does tbf.

[Unseen work]

Steven Bradley got 45 minutes for Livi today and was very good supposedly.

[The Modfather]

He kinda does tbf.

Penalties count the same as non penalties. What would we give for a striker with 15 goals in 19 league games.

[McD]

He kinda does tbf.


hes been better than expected, but I think it’s 10 penalties in his 18 goals this season (if I heard what was said correctly)


that said, we can’t even get someone onto 8 goals, so not really any comfort in that stat

[Alfred E Newman]

Where’s the jokers who said shankland wasn’t a good signing by the way

Probably the same ones that said Fish should replace Hanlon.

[CapitalGreen]

Probably the same ones that said Fish should replace Hanlon.

Fish didn’t replace Hanlon, he replaced Cadden out of position at right back.

[McD]

Fish didn’t replace Hanlon, he replaced Cadden out of position at right back.


think he was speaking generally, rather than this specific game. There’s been a few shouts for hanlon to be dropped and fish in in his place

[Hibees1973]

Admins have been busy today closing down threads.

So can they please close this thread if Ron's son is still in charge of recruitment during the winter transfer window.

[Donegal Hibby]

Penalties count the same as non penalties. What would we give for a striker with 15 goals in 19 league games.
How many are penalties as a matter of interest ?

[Unseen work]

https://twitter.com/jasonkerr08/status/1609977149762539527?s=46&t=y5B9QFE5ZCzCT1VC4VgEgQ

Such a missed oppertunity not getting him at some point when he was at St Johnstone.

Would love to see him at Hibs one day.

[Jones28]

Steven Bradley got 45 minutes for Livi today and was very good supposedly.

I’ll be seriously ****ing annoyed if he goes on to be one of these solid, proven players we desperately need.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

We wouldn’t be able to sell him on, though. That appears to be the key criteria in recruiting players for this (absent) owner.

Marshall and McGeady kinda blows a hole in that opinion.

[Winston Ingram]

To be fair, Shankland wasn’t really proven at this level. He’s scored more goals in the league for Hearts this year than he’s got in this league in the rest of his career. I did think he’d do all right for them, not as well as he has though.

18 goals this year, 11 penalties.

[neil7908]

Admins have been busy today closing down threads.

So can they please close this thread if Ron's son is still in charge of recruitment during the winter transfer window.

Have to say this gave me a wee chuckle!

[B.H.F.C]

18 goals this year, 11 penalties.

They all count as well. He’ll get in to double figures for open play goals alone, we won’t even have anyone in double figures come the end of the season.

[Donegal Hibby]

Read a article just a few minutes ago saying that Udinese are in talks with Hibs about signing Porto.
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/cho-gue-sung-confirms-celtic-25885967

[Logie Green]

We wouldn’t be able to sell him on, though. That appears to be the key criteria in recruiting players for this (absent) owner.

At the last AGM it was made clear that the intention was to have an average age of 24 in the first team/squad.

There was no real explanation of why it was 24 but it’s been clear for ages that the operating model is to sign young, largely unproven, players with a view to selling them on. Not the worst idea but it only works if those identifying said players know their arse from their elbow.

[Mcbizz1998]

I’ll be seriously ****ing annoyed if he goes on to be one of these solid, proven players we desperately need.

I’m sorry to say that I reckon you will be seriously ****ing annoyed, in that case.

[brog]

They’re the ones who slag us bedwetters for pointing out what’s obvious…buy proven SPL players and you generally guarantee a sustainable level of performance.

It’s better than computer stats and slickly packaged videos, but it seems Iain Gordon disagrees.

We've bought many proven SPL players in recent years. Magennis, Cadden, Marshall and McGeady all played yesterday. Most of the ones we have bought end up being torn apart on here anyway. We just need good players played in the correct position.

[500miles]

We've bought many proven SPL players in recent years. Magennis, Cadden, Marshall and McGeady all played yesterday. Most of the ones we have bought end up being torn apart on here anyway. We just need good players played in the correct position.

When we had those players on the park for the second half we ended up being the better team. LJ can try and hide it with "it's east to be the better team 2-0 down" line, but we improved because we abandoned his own stupid tactics.

[Unseen work]

It will be really interesting to see what happens this window now.

We need players out and players in.

Will the board allow Johnson to make decisions if they’re planning on potentially sacking him in 2 weeks?

Johnson said players out is as big a deal as players in, if we only sell players we won’t improve.

We need players in straight away, I’d argue especially for the next 3 games against Motherwell, United and Hearts so we get the wins and he keeps his job

The board either need to back him 100% or get rid imo.

Being indecisive and not committing one way or the other will leave us in a bad way.

[Heisenberg]

Fish
Miller
Cabraja
Kenneh
JDH
Tavares
Henderson
Mitchell
McKirdy
Bojang
Melkersen

All on the fringes and not getting regular game time. God knows what’s happened to Miller, seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth. It’s quite a list and LJ’s assessment of the squad outside a few regulars can’t really be argued. No chance we can shift that many in January but hopefully they can make a dent.

[Real Emerald]

It will be really interesting to see what happens this window now.

We need players out and players in.

Will the board allow Johnson to make decisions if they’re planning on potentially sacking him in 2 weeks?


Johnson said players out is as big a deal as players in, if we only sell players we won’t improve.

We need players in straight away, I’d argue especially for the next 3 games against Motherwell, United and Hearts so we get the wins and he keeps his job

The board either need to back him 100% or get rid imo.

Being indecisive and not committing one way or the other will leave us in a bad way.

We’ve known for a while there are glaring problems in certain areas of our team (to put it mildly). You would have thought that these areas were being worked on prior to the window opening, be it permanent or loan signings that could have been ready to go immediately. I have no idea if there is anything in the pipeline and the club are keeping it close to their chests but it doesn’t look like we have imminent signing about to appear.

I’m not sure if that’s a good or bad thing TBH given the quality of what’s been brought in to date.

[McGruber]

Fish
Miller
Cabraja
Kenneh
JDH
Tavares
Henderson
Mitchell
McKirdy
Bojang
Melkersen

All on the fringes and not getting regular game time. God knows what’s happened to Miller, seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth. It’s quite a list and LJ’s assessment of the squad outside a few regulars can’t really be argued. No chance we can shift that many in January but hopefully they can make a dent.

7 of those 11 are signings under Johnson's watch. Why have him sign any more.

[WhileTheChief..]

7 of those 11 are signings under Johnson's watch. Why have him sign any more.

Just proves that LJ hasn’t got a clue about the type of player required to cut it here.

He signs a whole team worth of gash, barely plays any of them anymore, and is now saying ‘historic decisions’ are the cause of our problems.

Mind he said he could write a book on everything that is wrong at our club? He’s one of the biggest problems we’ve got. Useless.

[chippy]

7 of those 11 are signings under Johnson's watch. Why have him sign any more.
Exactly

[Billy Whizz]

7 of those 11 are signings under Johnson's watch. Why have him sign any more.

Did he sign them though?

[chippy]

Did he sign them though?
Will we ever know. He’s accepted the job and structure, therefore he has agreed to manage a team within that context. No point in crying about it now that it’s all unravelled

[madhatter]

Will we ever know. He’s accepted the job and structure, therefore he has agreed to manage a team within that context. No point in crying about it now that it’s all unravelled

What should he do? Quietly walk away and let us continue our hire to sack trend?

[Hibby Bairn]

Fish
Miller
Cabraja
Kenneh
JDH
Tavares
Henderson
Mitchell
McKirdy
Bojang
Melkersen

All on the fringes and not getting regular game time. God knows what’s happened to Miller, seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth. It’s quite a list and LJ’s assessment of the squad outside a few regulars can’t really be argued. No chance we can shift that many in January but hopefully they can make a dent.

Let's assume they are on an average of £2.5k per week. That comes to £1.4m of budget per year.

[Billy Whizz]

Will we ever know. He’s accepted the job and structure, therefore he has agreed to manage a team within that context. No point in crying about it now that it’s all unravelled

No one has been held accountable for such an appalling last few windows

[Donegal Hibby]

Did he sign them though?

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/lee-johnson-remains-in-charge-at-hibs-but-pressure-is-mounting-on-under-fire-boss-3973172

[raeburnhibs]

Let's assume they are on an average of £2.5k per week. That comes to £1.4m of budget per year.

a few years ago the average Hibs player salary was around 110k per year I thought. I find it hard to believe we are now paying 500k. Especially for these numpties!

[Smartie]

No one has been held accountable for such an appalling last few windows

Mathie was held fairly accountable for the poor summer one in 2022.

[Billy Whizz]

Mathie was held fairly accountable for the poor summer one in 2022.

He was and he didn’t bring in many players, probably moved on as he didn’t sell Doig for big money, but more than likely to get his son a recruitment post

I really meant since then, how many players have come in and gone out Hibs doors since then, and the so called transfer committee are still in tack

[Steven79]

Mathie was held fairly accountable for the poor summer one in 2022.

He should have been the owners son they he could have got away with murder!

[CapitalGreen]

a few years ago the average Hibs player salary was around 110k per year I thought. I find it hard to believe we are now paying 500k. Especially for these numpties!

£2.5k pw is £130k per year

[Crab apple]

Fish
Miller
Cabraja
Kenneh
JDH
Tavares
Henderson
Mitchell
McKirdy
Bojang
Melkersen

All on the fringes and not getting regular game time. God knows what’s happened to Miller, seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth. It’s quite a list and LJ’s assessment of the squad outside a few regulars can’t really be argued. No chance we can shift that many in January but hopefully they can make a dent.

That's a mighty impressive list of mediocrity. I wouldn't lose any sleep if we got rid of them all and replaced with a couple of proven quality players. Sadly that's unlikely to happen.

[The Captain....]

That's a mighty impressive list of mediocrity. I wouldn't lose any sleep if we got rid of them all and replaced with a couple of proven quality players. Sadly that's unlikely to happen.It's incredible when you remember the hype from the club and manager when we signed signed some of them.

They made Kenneh sound like the new Vieira...but he seemed to fall completely out of favour after Livi away.

McKirdy was heralded as a much sought after player down South.. which tbf was partially true but nobody had really taken the plunge on him.

The boy from Portugal, Tavares, who'd never played a first team game worried me at the time tbh. I didn't think he'd be suited to our league. Again it was made out to be a real coup getting him.

The Croatian left back looked a player first couple of games and has regressed with each performance.

I won't even mention the Yank who was here for what seemed like a few months and left wi his tail between his legs.

What a litany of failure.





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[blackpoolhibs]

It's incredible when you remember the hype from the club and manager when we signed signed some of them.

They made Kenneh sound like the new Vieira...but he seemed to fall completely out of favour after Livi away.

McKirdy was heralded as a much sought after player down South.. which tbf was partially true but nobody had really taken the plunge on him.

The boy from Portugal, Tavares, who'd never played a first team game worried me at the time tbh. I didn't think he'd be suited to our league. Again it was made out to be a real coup getting him.

The Croatian left back looked a player first couple of games and has regressed with each performance.

I won't even mention the Yank who was here for what seemed like a few months and left wi his tail between his legs.

What a litany of failure.

What about Henderson, heart the size of a pea, slower than me at 62 and frightened of his own shadow.

Melkerson, had never even played one game on grass when he signed for us, for a huge fee in our terms.





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Slapdash strategy that only someone who's never run a football department before would do.

It seems like they are just playing football manager with us, and it needs reset from the start now.

[McGruber]

Did he sign them though?

Good question and have no idea - but he has publicly said he has sign off and is involved so the flak, at least partly, comes his way. To what extent is his involvement - who knows

[raeburnhibs]

£2.5k pw is £130k per year

good point; too much red juice

[Ronniekirk]

Mathie was held fairly accountable for the poor summer one in 2022.

And he is now doing very well in his role with Ayr United

[thebausburst]

Just proves that LJ hasn’t got a clue about the type of player required to cut it here.

He signs a whole team worth of gash, barely plays any of them anymore, and is now saying ‘historic decisions’ are the cause of our problems.

Mind he said he could write a book on everything that is wrong at our club? He’s one of the biggest problems we’ve got. Useless.

This 100%. Can’t believe there are still folk wanting him to stay, apart from the appalling results (worse record than Maloney) in 8 months he’s not improved any area of the team with the defence, midfield and attack at least as bad if not worse than when he came in.

[cameronw-hfc]

Good question and have no idea - but he has publicly said he has sign off and is involved so the flak, at least partly, comes his way. To what extent is his involvement - who knows

I've a funny feeling he didn't have close to as much of a say as he was originally led to believe he would have. Not been told anything but seems that way

[chippy]

What should he do? Quietly walk away and let us continue our hire to sack trend?

Great if he walked , but the club have to make a decision. For me he’s going to take us down unless we sign 3/4 better quality players. Does Ron understand enough to believe LJ is capable of signing the right players and will he finance it? How is LJs day to day man management? Has he the players onside for a fight or not? Who is advising Ron on the football realities and not just the personnel management ? Big calls need cos in 3 weeks it’ll be too late

[The Wireless]

And he is now doing very well in his role with Ayr United

And not sure if Mathie got much credit for the players he helped sign when Hibs won the Cup in 2016 which if I am correct were pretty decent. Personally of the belief as long as Hibs don’t spend money on better players they will never grow. Hearts have grasped that and without being special are sleepwalking to the 3rd force in Scotland as we penny pinch and speculate with potential unknown”s.

[Basildon Hibs]

Just proves that LJ hasn’t got a clue about the type of player required to cut it here.

He signs a whole team worth of gash, barely plays any of them anymore, and is now saying ‘historic decisions’ are the cause of our problems.

Mind he said he could write a book on everything that is wrong at our club? He’s one of the biggest problems we’ve got. Useless.

Correct. 👍

[Aldo]

And not sure if Mathie got much credit for the players he helped sign when Hibs won the Cup in 2016 which if I am correct were pretty decent. Personally of the belief as long as Hibs don’t spend money on better players they will never grow. Hearts have grasped that and without being special are sleepwalking to the 3rd force in Scotland as we penny pinch and speculate with potential unknown”s.

What makes you think we are penny pinching?? We have a budget and it could have already been used! What would you have us do???? Spend other folks money like they did for years and then screw over charities and local businesses?

[04Sauzee]

Connor Wickham leaves Forest Green Rovers after signing a short term deal. He's 9 goals in 20 for a struggling FGR team. Probably got offers and will do someone a decent job. Would have probably taken him a few years back.

[FitbaFolkKen]

Demetri Mitchell on the way out.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/demetri-mitchell-heads-hibs-exit-28866992.amp


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[B.H.F.C]

Demetri Mitchell on the way out.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/demetri-mitchell-heads-hibs-exit-28866992.amp


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If we can recoup a fee. Who in their right mind is going to pay us money for him?

[superfurryhibby]

If we can recoup a fee. Who in their right mind is going to pay us money for him?

A laughable notion, get the ****
tae ****

[SteveHFC]

Porteous on his way out in the coming days.

[madhatter]

Porteous on his way out in the coming days.

Good. He won't sign contract so get him out for some money.

[H18 SFR]

A laughable notion, get the ****
tae ****

Why is he a ****?

[Gmack7]

Porteous on his way out in the coming days.

Where?

[SteveHFC]

Where?

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10008576/hibs-lee-johnson-blanked-players-derby-defeat-hearts/

‘But Ryan Porteous will leave in the coming days with Udinese leading the race to land the Scotland defender, who is out of contract this summer.

And he could be the first exit of many if Johnson can get rid of others, including some brought in on his watch in the summer.’

[The Wireless]

What makes you think we are penny pinching?? We have a budget and it could have already been used! What would you have us do???? Spend other folks money like they did for years and then screw over charities and local businesses?

Are you saying we don’t penny pinch regarding investing in players who will improve the squad. If you have a budget and spend it on 12 players and hope you can get them with the same quality as 3 then you should give Hibs your number mate. All I was saying is if let’s say Hearts or Aberdeen pay more then we do, then we will consistently have to accept their superiority and our lack of ambition. That’s how the game is and has been for years. Hibs have an annual budget and should keep to it however very rarely re- invest a significant proportion of player sales back into the team as has been the case over my lifetime. The managers are the fall guys and always have been at Hibs but without being in a position of improving by buying 2 or 3 good players year on year with also if I may say so the introduction of the most promising players when ready from our academy, this Club can consistently go nowhere fast.

[McGruber]

Are you saying we don’t penny pinch regarding investing in players who will improve the squad. If you have a budget and spend it on 12 players and hope you can get them with the same quality as 3 then you should give Hibs your number mate. All I was saying is if let’s say Hearts or Aberdeen pay more then we do, then we will consistently have to accept their superiority and our lack of ambition. That’s how the game is and has been for years. Hibs have an annual budget and should keep to it however very rarely re- invest a significant proportion of player sales back into the team as has been the case over my lifetime. The managers are the fall guys and always have been at Hibs but without being in a position of improving by buying 1 or 2 good players year on year with if I may say the most promising players when ready from our academy this Club can consistently go nowhere fast.

Hearts and Aberdeen superiority because of finance but on same token shouldn't be worried about not being top six consistently. Big difference in finance Hibs to Livi, Motherwell, Dun U etc
We have a considerably bigger budget than 7 others in the league.
If the measure is finance then this and last season isn't good enough and managers carry the can

[Brooster]

If we can recoup a fee. Who in their right mind is going to pay us money for him?

Correct. It's dissapointing and frustrating to think we are paying good money for krap like Mitchell.

[Paulie Walnuts]

If we can recoup a fee. Who in their right mind is going to pay us money for him?

:agree:

A truly dreadful signing. Nobody will give us a penny for him.

[flash]

:agree:

A truly dreadful signing. Nobody will give us a penny for him.

He will surely be gone regardless of a fee. We are just chancing our arm I reckon.

[Gmack7]

He will surely be gone regardless of a fee. We are just chancing our arm I reckon.

We were daft enough to pay a fee, hopefully that level of stupidity is not exclusive to us

[Bridge hibs]

We were daft enough to pay a fee, hopefully that level of stupidity is not exclusive to usHow much did we pay for him ?

[Hibernian Verse]

We were daft enough to pay a fee, hopefully that level of stupidity is not exclusive to us

He actually looked quite decent and got a couple of goals before he got injured.

[GreenCastle]

The clear out hopefully begins.

Assume we will have to wait and see how many we can move on to see the budget who we can bring in ?

Mitchell was a really weird one - came with injury issues - looked ok in few games but then injured / not played.

Said a while back we need robust players who can play regularly and consistently.

[Aldo]

Are you saying we don’t penny pinch regarding investing in players who will improve the squad. If you have a budget and spend it on 12 players and hope you can get them with the same quality as 3 then you should give Hibs your number mate. All I was saying is if let’s say Hearts or Aberdeen pay more then we do, then we will consistently have to accept their superiority and our lack of ambition. That’s how the game is and has been for years. Hibs have an annual budget and should keep to it however very rarely re- invest a significant proportion of player sales back into the team as has been the case over my lifetime. The managers are the fall guys and always have been at Hibs but without being in a position of improving by buying 1 or 2 good players year on year with if I may say the most promising players when ready from our academy this Club can consistently go nowhere fast.


Are you saying we don’t penny pinch regarding investing in players who will improve the squad. If you have a budget and spend it on 12 players and hope you can get them with the same quality as 3 then you should give Hibs your number mate. All I was saying is if let’s say Hearts or Aberdeen pay more then we do, then we will consistently have to accept their superiority and our lack of ambition. That’s how the game is and has been for years. Hibs have an annual budget and should keep to it however very rarely re- invest a significant proportion of player sales back into the team as has been the case over my lifetime. The managers are the fall guys and always have been at Hibs but without being in a position of improving by buying 1 or 2 good players year on year with if I may say the most promising players when ready from our academy this Club can consistently go nowhere fast.

Having read the post quite a few times I have concluded you just don’t get it but I really think you are at it!

We brought in the players the manager/recruitment deemed good enough and it was clear they were not! We now need to get rid and hopefully bring in better quality.

When did I say we would get the same quality as 12 for 3. You are making this up? Read what I posted.

As for reinvestment - you are obviously not up to speed with the latest player income (wonder why eh) with the money received from Doig and Boyle being re invested in the team!

As for your other point - when clubs still spend other folks more £5 million plus - then other clubs in the same league will struggle to compete with players when the pay inflated wages etc and have done for years. But let’s face it they’ve won nothing doing this!

Why shouldn’t the managers be the fall guy. It’s their job FFS.

O and thanks very much for the insight on how it works and should work.

[Gmack7]

How much did we pay for him ?

No idea but the fact we are hoping to recoup our outlay tells me it was to much

[Hibernian Verse]

No idea but the fact we are hoping to recoup our outlay tells me it was to much

Not really, it tells you we are a business. You'd always initially look to recoup some of the outlay when transferring an asset.

You wouldn't buy a company van then sell it for free 12 months later.

[Winston Ingram]

Connor Wickham leaves Forest Green Rovers after signing a short term deal. He's 9 goals in 20 for a struggling FGR team. Probably got offers and will do someone a decent job. Would have probably taken him a few years back.

He'd be perfect for us, however, i suspect he's already got a club lined up.

[jeffers]

Interesting the article today again says he’s keen to keep Cabraja, the player he’s dropped for a near 35 year old Lewis Stevenson. I believe we are keen to offload him if possible.

[One Day Soon]

Not really, it tells you we are a business. You'd always initially look to recoup some of the outlay when transferring an asset.

You wouldn't buy a company van then sell it for free 12 months later.


That depends, if it's loaded with some of our dafter recent signings I'd actually pay the buyer to take it away...

[Up-the-slope]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10008576/hibs-lee-johnson-blanked-players-derby-defeat-hearts/

‘But Ryan Porteous will leave in the coming days with Udinese leading the race to land the Scotland defender, who is out of contract this summer.

And he could be the first exit of many if Johnson can get rid of others, including some brought in on his watch in the summer.’

I know its not Hibs / my problem.... but just cant see Ryan being one of those who can learn another language / get into another culture.... He's not even made it out of Dalkeith Culture yet.... although you can always be surprised... maybe the historical streets of Udine and day trips to Venice might just float his boat :wink:

[NC1875]

I know its not Hibs / my problem.... but just cant see Ryan being one of those who can learn another language / get into another culture.... He's not even made it out of Dalkeith Culture yet.... although you can always be surprised... maybe the historical streets of Udine and day trips to Venice might just float his boat :wink:

Do they not own Watford also ? Sure I heard something about him being loaned there initially. 🤷🏽*♂️

[Hibernian Verse]

That depends, if it's loaded with some of our dafter recent signings I'd actually pay the buyer to take it away...

You make a good point :greengrin

[Unseen work]

Interesting the article today again says he’s keen to keep Cabraja, the player he’s dropped for a near 35 year old Lewis Stevenson. I believe we are keen to offload him if possible.

You think of heard about Cabraja?

I think he’s a good player would would be hesitant of getting rid, might have an injury or similar.

Just need to look at Cadden being “drugged up to the eye balls” to play the other night.

[J-C]

You think of heard about Cabraja?

I think he’s a good player would would be hesitant of getting rid, might have an injury or similar.

Just need to look at Cadden being “drugged up to the eye balls” to play the other night.

After the passing of his father, maybe he wants back home and has been out of sorts.

[Unseen work]

Who else we think will move on?

Bradley
Balde

Already gone

Mitchell
JDH
Porteous
Bojang

All looking likely and a matter of time

Dabrowski
Hauge
Melkersen - Loan
Tavares - Loan
Henderson
Fish - cancel loan?

Could all potentially go.

None of that includes youngsters/players already on loan like Doidge, McKay, Emmanuel Johnson, Delferierre etc

[Up-the-slope]

Do they not own Watford also ? Sure I heard something about him being loaned there initially. ����*♂️

Didn't know that - would make much more sense... tax reasons may make that attractive for them

Watford has similar cultural attractions to Dalkeith ;)

[Brightside]

Demetri Mitchell on the way out.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/demetri-mitchell-heads-hibs-exit-28866992.amp


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All of these reports are just copying everything that been on here for weeks. :greengrin

[Dmas]

A player that should never have been brought here, was barely good enough at hearts and struggled with injury since then

[Gmack7]

Not really, it tells you we are a business. You'd always initially look to recoup some of the outlay when transferring an asset.

You wouldn't buy a company van then sell it for free 12 months later.

Using that analogy I just wouldn't have bought a wreck of a van that didn't work in the 1st place

[Up-the-slope]

Using that analogy I just wouldn't have bought a wreck of a van that didn't work in the 1st place

:agree: the bald tyres and slipping clutch should have been a clue :greengrin

[Heisenberg]

A player that should never have been brought here, was barely good enough at hearts and struggled with injury since then

Exactly. Baffling that people at the club thought he was the answer. Horrendous signing.

[chippy]

I know it’s renot Hibs / my problem.... but just cant see Ryan being one of those who can learn another language / get into another culture.... He's not even made it out of Dalkeith Culture yet.... although you can always be surprised... maybe the historical streets of Udine and day trips to Venice might just float his boat :wink:

Are you acquainted with Ryan?

[Brightside]

Who else we think will move on?

Bradley
Balde

Already gone

Mitchell
JDH
Porteous
Bojang

All looking likely and a matter of time

Dabrowski
Hauge
Melkersen - Loan
Tavares - Loan
Henderson
Fish - cancel loan?

Could all potentially go.

None of that includes youngsters/players already on loan like Doidge, McKay, Emmanuel Johnson, Delferierre etc

Agree on the list - all should be away in some shape. Melk I would loan out for a season. Doidge we need to off load somehow. We also have other Dev players that need to go if they aren't going to be in the first team squad.

[Hibernian Verse]

Are you acquainted with Ryan?

It wouldn't be hibs.net without people making character assumptions.

[OldEast]

Agree on the list - all should be away in some shape. Melk I would loan out for a season. Doidge we need to off load somehow. We also have other Dev players that need to go if they aren't going to be in the first team squad.

Has Doidge scored yet since he's been away?