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SaulGoodman
07-01-2023, 10:50 PM
Wouldn't loose any sleep if Henderson went, not exactly set the Heather alight

Is that no what Bojang did?

Hibbyradge
07-01-2023, 11:22 PM
Ewan Henderson apparently running his mouth behind the scenes I’ve heard from a few folk he’s had a massive falling out with Lj as he thinks he’s too good to be sitting on the bench, if true then you’ve just got to laugh he’s done absolutely nothing to justify being in the starting 11 needs moved on imo clearly not good enough


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...if true...

Callum_62
08-01-2023, 12:06 AM
Ewan Henderson apparently running his mouth behind the scenes I’ve heard from a few folk he’s had a massive falling out with Lj as he thinks he’s too good to be sitting on the bench, if true then you’ve just got to laugh he’s done absolutely nothing to justify being in the starting 11 needs moved on imo clearly not good enough


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I might be wrong but he doesn't strike me as the type

cameronw-hfc
08-01-2023, 12:25 AM
I might be wrong but he doesn't strike me as the type

Ewan was a few years below me in school and good pals with my wee brother. He wasn't back then. Seen him at the Ayr game and had a wee chat, seemed like the same boy as he always was. Was always pretty quiet and reserved until you knew him better, but even then he wasn't a brash or loud type. Always been a really polite boy.

Should say, I'm not saying this isn't the case, and I've no info or anything on it, just posting my experience of growing up with the Hendos. Ewan and his middle brother were always pretty quiet whilst Liam was a bit more out there.

Unseen work
08-01-2023, 04:06 AM
So Bradley has played a game and a half for Livingston, 4 points and an assist. When was the last time we brought someone in who made an instant impact? Kamberi on loan? Think he scored the same day he signed.

Bradley probably wasn’t the answer. However it does seem an example of a club like Livingston, signing a player early. Having a clear idea where they will play, what role they will fulfil and them hitting the ground running. We seem to take an age to sign players and when we do it feels like we’re just signing good individuals with no real thought as to what their role will be or how they compliment what’s already there.

I don’t agree with the decision to let Bradley go but to say we’ve not had a signing have the effect (1 assist in 2 games) he has since Kamberi just isn’t true.

Harry Clarke
Demi Mitchell
Elias Melkersen

All scored on their first start IIRC and then Youan had 3 assists in his first 4 games.

Unseen work
08-01-2023, 04:14 AM
Henderson is a massively frustrating player imo.

Technically I’m in no doubt that he has ability and one thing about him is that the vast majority of games he plays I think he always has a really good chance to score. His stats if he took half them would be unbelievable.

But his decision making at times is truly terrible, sometimes just crossing it first time to a completely empty box or massively over hitting it when the cross was never on. He also gives away stupid stupid fouls, I think from trying to press but not quite being close enough to the player to begin with so over does it.

In the same sense I think but can you coach that and develop it through game time? Got the ability, got the know how of getting chances but needs to brush up on decision making and mature a bit.

He’s got 4 goals and 2 assists this season in all competitions. I can think of more chances against Aberdeen, Livi and St Mirren where he should have scored in and that’s off the top of my head.

I would also say he appears to be a bit of a fall guy this season in that as soon as he has a poor period in a game he is subbed/dropped and not seen again for a while whilst others continue to go through a bad spell. He seems to come back in the team when Johnson says about quality in the final third so I really wouldn’t be surprised if he started today.

He’s one that I think along with Bradley may just be victim of the environment at Hibs at the moment in that they both could be good young players but we can’t afford to let them develop as we need quality in the door who will make an impact now.

Paulie Walnuts
08-01-2023, 04:14 AM
Yeah

He said in an interview when he signed that Hibs had been in touch before appointing Maloney.

cameronw-hfc
08-01-2023, 05:28 AM
Henderson is a massively frustrating player imo.

Technically I’m in no doubt that he has ability and one thing about him is that the vast majority of games he plays I think he always has a really good chance to score. His stats if he took half them would be unbelievable.

But his decision making at times is truly terrible, sometimes just crossing it first time to a completely empty box or massively over hitting it when the cross was never on. He also gives away stupid stupid fouls, I think from trying to press but not quite being close enough to the player to begin with so over does it.

In the same sense I think but can you coach that and develop it through game time? Got the ability, got the know how of getting chances but needs to brush up on decision making and mature a bit.

He’s got 4 goals and 2 assists this season in all competitions. I can think of more chances against Aberdeen, Livi and St Mirren where he should have scored in and that’s off the top of my head.

I would also say he appears to be a bit of a fall guy this season in that as soon as he has a poor period in a game he is subbed/dropped and not seen again for a while whilst others continue to go through a bad spell. He seems to come back in the team when Johnson says about quality in the final third so I really wouldn’t be surprised if he started today.

He’s one that I think along with Bradley may just be victim of the environment at Hibs at the moment in that they both could be good young players but we can’t afford to let them develop as we need quality in the door who will make an impact now.

Not sure it counts for much now, but as kids Ewan was streets ahead of Liam despite being a decent bit younger, and I'm sure others from the area on here will be able to verify, he was always looked at as the better/more potential out of the two of them.

Funnily enough, there's a middle brother who was possibly more gifted than Liam and Ewan but due to other circumstances he couldn't play pro. 3 very talented lads. Ewan played up a few years in my school team a few times before Celtic found out and put a stop to it, and even as an S2, he made the senior team's we played look like first and second year's.

Jones28
08-01-2023, 06:28 AM
If you can tell us how many have come back and bit us maybe we can agree 're the predictability.

The way things are at the moment it’s bound to happen.

jacomo
08-01-2023, 07:04 AM
Ewan Henderson apparently running his mouth behind the scenes I’ve heard from a few folk he’s had a massive falling out with Lj as he thinks he’s too good to be sitting on the bench, if true then you’ve just got to laugh he’s done absolutely nothing to justify being in the starting 11 needs moved on imo clearly not good enough




Ewan Henderson has achieved zilch in a Hibs shirt bless him.

Hoped for so much more from him.

Hibernian Verse
08-01-2023, 07:16 AM
Ewan Henderson apparently running his mouth behind the scenes I’ve heard from a few folk he’s had a massive falling out with Lj as he thinks he’s too good to be sitting on the bench, if true then you’ve just got to laugh he’s done absolutely nothing to justify being in the starting 11 needs moved on imo clearly not good enough


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That is completely made up.

GreenCastle
08-01-2023, 07:23 AM
Ewan Henderson has achieved zilch in a Hibs shirt bless him.

Hoped for so much more from him.

Think that’s harsh.

Has he not scored as many goals as Joe Newell this season in less games ?

He’s probably frustrated he can’t get into our midfield and can’t blame him.

We do need to improve centrally and he’s probably not the answer long term but you can’t fault his effort.

JimBHibees
08-01-2023, 07:35 AM
I might be wrong but he doesn't strike me as the type

Totally agree think it is nonsense.

JimBHibees
08-01-2023, 07:36 AM
That is completely made up.

Totally agree.

JimBHibees
08-01-2023, 07:40 AM
Henderson is a massively frustrating player imo.

Technically I’m in no doubt that he has ability and one thing about him is that the vast majority of games he plays I think he always has a really good chance to score. His stats if he took half them would be unbelievable.

But his decision making at times is truly terrible, sometimes just crossing it first time to a completely empty box or massively over hitting it when the cross was never on. He also gives away stupid stupid fouls, I think from trying to press but not quite being close enough to the player to begin with so over does it.

In the same sense I think but can you coach that and develop it through game time? Got the ability, got the know how of getting chances but needs to brush up on decision making and mature a bit.

He’s got 4 goals and 2 assists this season in all competitions. I can think of more chances against Aberdeen, Livi and St Mirren where he should have scored in and that’s off the top of my head.

I would also say he appears to be a bit of a fall guy this season in that as soon as he has a poor period in a game he is subbed/dropped and not seen again for a while whilst others continue to go through a bad spell. He seems to come back in the team when Johnson says about quality in the final third so I really wouldn’t be surprised if he started today.

He’s one that I think along with Bradley may just be victim of the environment at Hibs at the moment in that they both could be good young players but we can’t afford to let them develop as we need quality in the door who will make an impact now.

Exactly where I am with him seems to have the ability but maybe just lacking in the confidence and maybe needs a coach to have more faith in him. Maybe I am wrong with this but think just after he smashed a beauty against St Mirren immediately got substituted thought it was a little odd. He does create hence the reason I think he is still a good sub option. Gets too much criticism which fits in with the environment you mention.

JimBHibees
08-01-2023, 07:43 AM
Ewan was a few years below me in school and good pals with my wee brother. He wasn't back then. Seen him at the Ayr game and had a wee chat, seemed like the same boy as he always was. Was always pretty quiet and reserved until you knew him better, but even then he wasn't a brash or loud type. Always been a really polite boy.

Should say, I'm not saying this isn't the case, and I've no info or anything on it, just posting my experience of growing up with the Hendos. Ewan and his middle brother were always pretty quiet whilst Liam was a bit more out there.

Yep my kids were in the same school as him and says the same a quiet lad from a lovely family.

JimBHibees
08-01-2023, 07:44 AM
...if true...

Indeed

cameronw-hfc
08-01-2023, 07:46 AM
Yep my kids were in the same school as him and says the same a quiet lad from a lovely family.

I'll probably know them, or my brother will. I was a few years above Ewan and my brother was in his year and tons of his classes! He's a good lad. Can't see the rumours being true.

Jones28
08-01-2023, 07:46 AM
Yep my kids were in the same school as him and says the same a quiet lad from a lovely family.

I’ve only ever met Liam in person but he was a genuinely lovely guy, very humble and unassuming. If his brothers are anything like him there’s no chance Ewan has been running his mouth.

Key West
08-01-2023, 07:46 AM
With a run of games in the correct position ( Number 10 ) he’d be a first team pick in my opinion. When he gets the opportunity he needs to believe he’s the best and affect the game.

cameronw-hfc
08-01-2023, 07:48 AM
I’ve only ever met Liam in person but he was a genuinely lovely guy, very humble and unassuming. If his brothers are anything like him there’s no chance Ewan has been running his mouth.

Liam's the most outgoing out of the 3 by some distance. Before I knew the other two, I remember being on the school bus once and had a massive pack of sensations. Liam came down and asked if he could have some for Ewan and Jamie as they were too embarrassed to ask. Called them a few words I won't repeat on here😂

Allant1981
08-01-2023, 07:50 AM
Henderson is clearly a good player, not sure we are the right club for him at this moment in time though. Maybe needs to bulk up a bit and get a run of games away from ER

MWHIBBIES
08-01-2023, 08:04 AM
Think that’s harsh.

Has he not scored as many goals as Joe Newell this season in less games ?

He’s probably frustrated he can’t get into our midfield and can’t blame him.

We do need to improve centrally and he’s probably not the answer long term but you can’t fault his effort.

Is that really the best way to compare 2 totally different midfielders? Just goals scored?

I don't mind Henderson as much as others but he's been nowhere near as good as Newell this season, even with Joe's recent poor form.

flash
08-01-2023, 08:23 AM
Is that really the best way to compare 2 totally different midfielders? Just goals scored?

I don't mind Henderson as much as others but he's been nowhere near as good as Newell this season, even with Joe's recent poor form.

As you say it's not comparing eggs with eggs.

I actually like Henderson and think there could be something there.

As others have said he definitely provides a goal threat and maybe just needs a wee run in the team to bring the confidence necessary to making more good decisions on the pitch.

jacomo
08-01-2023, 08:23 AM
Think that’s harsh.

Has he not scored as many goals as Joe Newell this season in less games ?

He’s probably frustrated he can’t get into our midfield and can’t blame him.

We do need to improve centrally and he’s probably not the answer long term but you can’t fault his effort.


Respect your opinion but for me he’s been a massive disappointment.

JimBHibees
08-01-2023, 08:26 AM
Respect your opinion but for me he’s been a massive disappointment.

I think even the player would agree with that assessment

Hibbyradge
08-01-2023, 08:29 AM
Is that really the best way to compare 2 totally different midfielders? Just goals scored?

I don't mind Henderson as much as others but he's been nowhere near as good as Newell this season, even with Joe's recent poor form.

He was replying to a post which said that Ewan had achieved zilch in a Hibs shirt. It wasn't really a comparison with Newell.

Brightside
08-01-2023, 08:39 AM
He’s another midfielder who doesn’t impact the game enough and provides almost nothing when we are not dominating. Tbh he could play as many games as Newell and the outcome would be similar.

CapitalGreen
08-01-2023, 08:46 AM
Think that’s harsh.

Has he not scored as many goals as Joe Newell this season in less games ?

He’s probably frustrated he can’t get into our midfield and can’t blame him.

We do need to improve centrally and he’s probably not the answer long term but you can’t fault his effort.

If Newell’s the bar no wonder we are ****ed. Magennis has scored more league goals in the last 2 weeks than Newell has in over 2 years FFS.

GreenCastle
08-01-2023, 08:53 AM
I’m not saying Henderson is better than Newell and I know Newell offers more obviously.

I also think both need replaced if we want to progress.

Henderson actually was good pre-season. Did he not play ok in semi against Hearts too at Hampden?

CapitalGreen
08-01-2023, 08:59 AM
I’m not saying Henderson is better than Newell and I know Newell offers more obviously.

I also think both need replaced if we want to progress.

Henderson actually was good pre-season. Did he not play ok in semi against Hearts too at Hampden?

Maybe the fact his most memorable performances came against lower league opposition tells you all you need to know about his level.

Key West
08-01-2023, 09:02 AM
Under Jack Ross we had a decent midfield in Doyle-Hayes, Magennis and Newell when they were all fit and available we also had an inform Nisbet and Boyle. Unfortunately with changes in particular injuries and fixture congestion things started to slide. If all our midfielders are fit we have decent options Magennis, Newell, Campbell, Doyle-Hayes, Henderson and Kenneh and Stevenson could also do a job there as ironically it is probably his best position.
The transfer window is one where we should be looking to strengthen the defence, we are incredibly weak in the wing back areas and will go backwards if we lose Porteous in the centre of defence, we are far too generous in giving the opposition easy opportunities to create and score goals.

CapitalGreen
08-01-2023, 09:12 AM
Under Jack Ross we had a decent midfield in Doyle-Hayes, Magennis and Newell when they were all fit and available we also had an inform Nisbet and Boyle. Unfortunately with changes in particular injuries and fixture congestion things started to slide. If all our midfielders are fit we have decent options Magennis, Newell, Campbell, Doyle-Hayes, Henderson and Kenneh and Stevenson could also do a job there as ironically it is probably his best position.
The transfer window is one where we should be looking to strengthen the defence, we are incredibly weak in the wing back areas and will go backwards if we lose Porteous in the centre of defence, we are far too generous in giving the opposition easy opportunities to create and score goals.

This Newell/JDH/Magennis midfield has got better and better in people’s minds as times gone on. They only started together 4 times (W1 D2 L1). We beat a very poor Ross County side at home, drew 2-2 with St Mirren and lost 5-2 on aggregate against Rijeka.

Unseen work
08-01-2023, 10:08 AM
Just saw this

https://twitter.com/aiden1875/status/1612033619853287425?s=46&t=2St2i_QuuwLigISF4bppzQ

Musa Juwara is now following Hibs on Instagram.

New signing?

Also follows Bojang

21 year old Gambian striker/winger who’s stats does inspire so I imagine it’s just through Bojang that he’s following the club however knowing the recruitment team you never know!

Allant1981
08-01-2023, 10:12 AM
Just saw this

https://twitter.com/aiden1875/status/1612033619853287425?s=46&t=2St2i_QuuwLigISF4bppzQ

Musa Juwara is now following Hibs on Instagram.

New signing?

Also follows Bojang

21 year old Gambian striker/winger who’s stats does inspire so I imagine it’s just through Bojang that he’s following the club however knowing the recruitment team you never know!

At least he plays for an actual club!!

flash
08-01-2023, 10:12 AM
Just saw this

https://twitter.com/aiden1875/status/1612033619853287425?s=46&t=2St2i_QuuwLigISF4bppzQ

Musa Juwara is now following Hibs on Instagram.

New signing?

Also follows Bojang

21 year old Gambian striker/winger who’s stats does inspire so I imagine it’s just through Bojang that he’s following the club however knowing the recruitment team you never know!
Now that would be something.

Get rid of Bojang under controversial circumstances and replace him with his mate!

Bridge hibs
08-01-2023, 10:13 AM
Just saw this

https://twitter.com/aiden1875/status/1612033619853287425?s=46&t=2St2i_QuuwLigISF4bppzQ

Musa Juwara is now following Hibs on Instagram.

New signing?

Also follows Bojang

21 year old Gambian striker/winger who’s stats does inspire so I imagine it’s just through Bojang that he’s following the club however knowing the recruitment team you never know!Wonder if theres any truth in the rumour we are signing 19 yo Japanese winger Terry Aki from German side Bochum

blackpoolhibs
08-01-2023, 10:13 AM
I cant believe he'd have a full blown argument with anyone, he's frightened of his own shadow.

J-C
08-01-2023, 10:14 AM
Just saw this

https://twitter.com/aiden1875/status/1612033619853287425?s=46&t=2St2i_QuuwLigISF4bppzQ

Musa Juwara is now following Hibs on Instagram.

New signing?

Also follows Bojang

21 year old Gambian striker/winger who’s stats does inspire so I imagine it’s just through Bojang that he’s following the club however knowing the recruitment team you never know!


Maybe following us after Bojangs outburst.

flash
08-01-2023, 10:18 AM
Wonder if theres any truth in the rumour we are signing 19 yo Japanese winger Terry Aki from German side Bochum

You been on the sauce?

Bridge hibs
08-01-2023, 10:22 AM
You been on the sauce?Wonder if we lose today Johnson will be facing the Saki

EGL2000
08-01-2023, 10:22 AM
At least he plays for an actual club!!

However also has a lack of first time football, not what we currently need. Could be brilliant but not in position to take punts.

Gmack7
08-01-2023, 10:24 AM
Just recall Dan Mackay if we want a young winger

Callum_62
08-01-2023, 10:26 AM
Just recall Dan Mackay if we want a young wingerAre all young wingers the same?

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MWHIBBIES
08-01-2023, 10:33 AM
If Newell’s the bar no wonder we are ****ed. Magennis has scored more league goals in the last 2 weeks than Newell has in over 2 years FFS.

More than N'golo Kan/te has scored in that time too. Totally different players, again, not a good comparison. Newell has faults but his lack of goals really shouldn't be mentioned. It isn't his job.

Gmack7
08-01-2023, 10:37 AM
Are all young wingers the same?

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Unlikely, but you knew that
I think he deserves a chance

offshorehibby
08-01-2023, 10:37 AM
Just recall Dan Mackay if we want a young winger

A goal and an assist yesterday i see.

offshorehibby
08-01-2023, 10:40 AM
2 goals I think

Billy McKay 1 and Dan MacKay 1

Bridge hibs
08-01-2023, 10:41 AM
Billy McKay 1 and Dan MacKay 1

Yeah deleted my post, was indeed Billy

CapitalGreen
08-01-2023, 11:08 AM
More than N'golo Kan/te has scored in that time too. Totally different players, again, not a good comparison. Newell has faults but his lack of goals really shouldn't be mentioned. It isn't his job.

K4nte isn’t really a great example to use, his goal contribution stats are excellent. Since the start of last season K4nte has an open play league goal or assist every 325 minutes compared to every 1,237 minutes for Newell.

Edit - are people really using K A N T so often that it needs to be starred out?

Willis1875
08-01-2023, 11:13 AM
Just saw this

https://twitter.com/aiden1875/status/1612033619853287425?s=46&t=2St2i_QuuwLigISF4bppzQ

Musa Juwara is now following Hibs on Instagram.

New signing?

Also follows Bojang

21 year old Gambian striker/winger who’s stats does inspire so I imagine it’s just through Bojang that he’s following the club however knowing the recruitment team you never know!

He commented on the Gamsoccer post when it was put up showing support for Bojang

Heisenberg
08-01-2023, 12:17 PM
Fresh talks expected on Monday between Hibs and Udinese for Porteous.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64200821

Unseen work
08-01-2023, 02:52 PM
Am I right in saying Nisbets contract is up summer 2024?

I fully expect bids for him this window

Paulie Walnuts
08-01-2023, 02:53 PM
Am I right in saying Nisbets contract is up summer 2024?

I fully expect bids for him this window

Yup.

If we want a fee we have to sell either now or the summer. The summer would possibly already see reduced bids to an extent.

Unseen work
08-01-2023, 02:58 PM
Yup.

If we want a fee we have to sell either now or the summer. The summer would possibly already see reduced bids to an extent.

This is where it’s difficult for the club, especially if they want to buy/develop young players and sell them for millions which we reinvest.

That’s Porteous and likely Nisbet going for less than we should sell for them. Two players who show the model works, along with Doig if you invest and develop the right players.

If that’s our model we need to sell at the right times to ensure maximum reward. I suppose the argument is then how much do you value their contribution

Them two should be minimum 6 million all in.

chippy
08-01-2023, 03:00 PM
Yup.

If we want a fee we have to sell either now or the summer. The summer would possibly already see reduced bids to an extent.
Deary me , keep him until Summer. Go for 4/5 league spot and cup run. That’s worth at least a million to us in terms of season ticket sales, hospitality sales. Could be worth much more

Chip shop Joe
08-01-2023, 03:18 PM
Yup.

If we want a fee we have to sell either now or the summer. The summer would possibly already see reduced bids to an extent.

Would be absolute suicide to sell him now. He is the only one who looks like scoring and there is no guarantee however much we get for him the replacement would hit the ground running.

If it has to be a reduced amount in the summer then for me this should be the only option.

Trinity Hibee
08-01-2023, 03:20 PM
Would be absolute suicide to sell him now. He is the only one who looks like scoring and there is no guarantee however much we get for him the replacement would hit the ground running.

If it has to be a reduced amount in the summer then for me this should be the only option.

I think the point is if we want a good fee it’s either now or the summer. Don’t think anyone is suggesting selling him. One of the few brights sparks in this team

Chip shop Joe
08-01-2023, 03:23 PM
I think the point is if we want a good fee it’s either now or the summer. Don’t think anyone is suggesting selling him. One of the few brights sparks in this team

Yes and this is what I am saying it simply can’t be now. It has to be the summer!

Hibbyradge
08-01-2023, 03:31 PM
I think the point is if we want a good fee it’s either now or the summer. Don’t think anyone is suggesting selling him. One of the few brights sparks in this team

We might be able to extend his contract. We should be trying to.

Ronniekirk
08-01-2023, 03:32 PM
Am I right in saying Nisbets contract is up summer 2024?

I fully expect bids for him this window

today showed we need to keep him this window at all costs But agree would be amazed now if our resolve isn’t tested

Paulie Walnuts
08-01-2023, 03:35 PM
Deary me , keep him until Summer. Go for 4/5 league spot and cup run. That’s worth at least a million to us in terms of season ticket sales, hospitality sales. Could be worth much more

I’m not suggesting we sell him now, I’m just saying what I reckon will be the case in terms of fees.

1875Sean
08-01-2023, 03:40 PM
We might be able to extend his contract. We should be trying to.

We have been trying to offer Nisbet a new deal for a while, before his injury, can’t see him signing on but you never know

Hibees1973
08-01-2023, 03:55 PM
Nisbet is easily £3m - £4m with the form he is in.

Much as we need to keep a hold of him, it's up to Ron's son as Head of Recruitment. If a bid of £4m comes in from a club like Sheffield Utd who are going for promotion, I would expect Ron's son to be on the blower to his daddy in darkest Peru (think that's where Ron is just now) asking if he should accept it. Nisbet has 1 year left on his contract. He will look around and see the shambles of the last couple of years and will not sign a new contract, as Porteous has not.

As Ron has said before he is at Hibs to make profit and this would represent 10x profit on what we paid for Nisbet. Understand Dunfermilne will take a fair chunk of any fee we receive.

The problem we have is that we have clowns in charge of recruitment who are making ludicrous decisions. Imagine Ron's son with around £3m more to spend.

Frightening.

SaulGoodman
08-01-2023, 03:58 PM
Nisbet is easily £3m - £4m with the form he is in.

Much as we need to keep a hold of him, it's up to Ron's son as Head of Recruitment. If a bid of £4m comes in from a club like Sheffield Utd who are going for promotion, I would expect Ron's son to be on the blower to his daddy in darkest Peru (think that's where Ron is just now) asking if he should accept it. Nisbet has 1 year left on his contract. He will look around and see the shambles of the last couple of years and will not sign a new contract, as Porteous has not.

As Ron has said before he is at Hibs to make profit and this would represent 10x profit on what we paid for Nisbet. Understand Dunfermilne will take a fair chunk of any fee we receive.

The problem we have is that we have clowns in charge of recruitment who are making ludicrous decisions. Imagine Ron's son with around £3m to spend.

Frightening.

You’re actually over every thread with this ****, how draining.

JohnM1875
08-01-2023, 03:59 PM
We have been trying to offer Nisbet a new deal for a while, before his injury, can’t see him signing on but you never know

That's the thing, same issue with Porto, we've been offering these players extensions for ages now. Not much we can do if they don't want to stay. Yet the club still gets abuse for it.

Hibees1973
08-01-2023, 04:01 PM
You’re actually over every thread with this ****, how draining.

And will continue to do so until Ron & his son are gone.

Is It On....
08-01-2023, 04:03 PM
Nisbet is easily £3m - £4m with the form he is in.

Much as we need to keep a hold of him, it's up to Ron's son as Head of Recruitment. If a bid of £4m comes in from a club like Sheffield Utd who are going for promotion, I would expect Ron's son to be on the blower to his daddy in darkest Peru (think that's where Ron is just now) asking if he should accept it. Nisbet has 1 year left on his contract. He will look around and see the shambles of the last couple of years and will not sign a new contract, as Porteous has not.

As Ron has said before he is at Hibs to make profit and this would represent 10x profit on what we paid for Nisbet. Understand Dunfermilne will take a fair chunk of any fee we receive.

The problem we have is that we have clowns in charge of recruitment who are making ludicrous decisions. Imagine Ron's son with around £3m more to spend.

Frightening.

You may get a hard time for stating the obvious..

Willis1875
08-01-2023, 04:03 PM
And will continue to do so until Ron & his son are gone.

Who is taking over from them?

Hibees1973
08-01-2023, 04:03 PM
That's the thing, same issue with Porto, we've been offering these players extensions for ages now. Not much we can do if they don't want to stay. Yet the club still gets abuse for it.

What you need to analyse is why are none of our better players choosing not to renew their contracts.

JohnM1875
08-01-2023, 04:05 PM
What you need to analyse is why are none of our better players choosing not to renew their contracts.

Money and ambition I'd imagine. Same with any team in our league other then the uglies.

Iain G
08-01-2023, 04:05 PM
What you need to analyse is why are none of our better players choosing not to renew their contracts.

Maybe they want a change and more money than we can offer? Doesn't always have to be a sinister anti Ron reason for it 🤣

loanheadhibby
08-01-2023, 04:06 PM
Nisbet is easily £3m - £4m with the form he is in.

Much as we need to keep a hold of him, it's up to Ron's son as Head of Recruitment. If a bid of £4m comes in from a club like Sheffield Utd who are going for promotion, I would expect Ron's son to be on the blower to his daddy in darkest Peru (think that's where Ron is just now) asking if he should accept it. Nisbet has 1 year left on his contract. He will look around and see the shambles of the last couple of years and will not sign a new contract, as Porteous has not.

As Ron has said before he is at Hibs to make profit and this would represent 10x profit on what we paid for Nisbet. Understand Dunfermilne will take a fair chunk of any fee we receive.

The problem we have is that we have clowns in charge of recruitment who are making ludicrous decisions. Imagine Ron's son with around £3m more to spend.

Frightening.

If we get £5 million for Nisbet, I’ll drive him to the destination myself. We’d bite their hand off for £5 million.

I reckon we keep him until summer & if we can get £1.5 or £2 million, he’ll move on. Like Porto, he’s unlikely to sign a new deal.

Callum_62
08-01-2023, 04:07 PM
And will continue to do so until Ron & his son are gone.What if we start winning and end up in Europe?

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MartinfaePorty
08-01-2023, 04:08 PM
Not inconceivable that Nisbet gets a few games for Scotland in the next campaign and if he does well the price will go up accordingly.

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Donegal Hibby
08-01-2023, 04:12 PM
Jez , even after we win a game there's still negativity , our striker scores a hattrick and now he's getting sold :rolleyes:

Hibees1973
08-01-2023, 04:12 PM
What if we start winning and end up in Europe?

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That's funny.

Narrow victory today gone to your head?

The Spaceman
08-01-2023, 04:14 PM
What if we start winning and end up in Europe?

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Not good enough, should be winning the European Cup.

Hibbyradge
08-01-2023, 04:15 PM
If we get £5 million for Nisbet, I’ll drive him to the destination myself. We’d bite their hand off for £5 million.

I reckon we keep him until summer & if we can get £1.5 or £2 million, he’ll move on. Like Porto, he’s unlikely to sign a new deal.

You're on fire today!

After a much needed away win, including 3 excellent goals from Nisbet, you've managed to diss him, and criticise Campbell, Stevenson, Cabraja and Henderson.

I'm very impressed.

Edit: I've just seen your post on the PM board. I can add Kenneh to that list! :faf:

loanheadhibby
08-01-2023, 04:16 PM
Jez , even after we win a game there's still negativity , our striker scores a hattrick and now he's getting sold :rolleyes:

Need to be realistic and learn from Porto situation. Nisbet unlikely to sign new deal. 18 months to go on contract. Possibly fancies his chances in England?

Unfortunately we need to think about getting best deal for him

The Modfather
08-01-2023, 04:16 PM
Jez , even after we win a game there's still negativity , our striker scores a hattrick and now he's getting sold :rolleyes:

I think people see what they want to see tbh. The discussion about selling Nisbet is because he has hit the ground running after his injury, but in the summer will only have 1 year left on his deal. Everyone hopes he signs an extensions but he holds all the cards and is probably unlikely to sign one.

Callum_62
08-01-2023, 04:19 PM
That's funny.

Narrow victory today gone to your head?We won today and are right in about the European places

We also have most of our best players fit(ish)

We did win today, right?

So your saying no matter what we do with the Gordon's in charge you will continue to suck the life out of every thread with your constant negativity?

Some outlook on life mate, hope your OK today.


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Rumble de Thump
08-01-2023, 04:21 PM
And will continue to do so until Ron & his son are gone.

I'd like to think that if I was obsessed with attacking someone I would at least be able to find out what their name is.

Hibees1973
08-01-2023, 04:27 PM
We won today and are right in about the European places

We also have most of our best players fit(ish)

We did win today, right?

So your saying no matter what we do with the Gordon's in charge you will continue to suck the life out of every thread with your constant negativity?

Some outlook on life mate, hope your OK today.


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I'm just negative about the Gordon's.

I know a fair bit of what has gone on with these guys in charge. Just want them away.

Understand this is a bit draining for some.

Will give it a rest for the day.

Iain G
08-01-2023, 04:29 PM
I'm just negative about the Gordon's.

I know a fair bit of what has gone on with these guys in charge. Just want them away.

Understand this is a bit draining for some.

Will give it a rest for the day.

Care to share what you know then? Maybe people would understand your views better if you put it out there, otherwise it just seems like irrational hatred.

Eyrie
08-01-2023, 05:26 PM
I think people see what they want to see tbh. The discussion about selling Nisbet is because he has hit the ground running after his injury, but in the summer will only have 1 year left on his deal. Everyone hopes he signs an extensions but he holds all the cards and is probably unlikely to sign one.

I'd add in Johnson's comments about Porteous' contract situation and the widely discussed model of developing players to sell for a profit.

In both cases the best outcome is the player signing a new contract with getting a good fee being second best. Seeing a talented player run down his contract and leave for nothing is bad for Hibs as we then need to find a replacement within our existing budget.

Squealing pig
08-01-2023, 06:42 PM
Get a director of football in , Michael Stewart would be decent or someone like that , might get some deadwood out

SaulGoodman
08-01-2023, 06:45 PM
Get a director of football in , Michael Stewart would be decent or someone like that , might get some deadwood out

I’ve never went from agreeing to horrifically disagreeing with someone so quick in all my life.

Iain G
08-01-2023, 06:45 PM
Get a director of football in , Michael Stewart would be decent or someone like that , might get some deadwood out

Mikey Stewart? He has less qualifications than Ian Gordon for a role at the club! And he has hardly endeared himself to our owners am sure with his criticism since Jacked Ross left.

BoomtownHibees
08-01-2023, 07:13 PM
Get a director of football in , Michael Stewart would be decent or someone like that , might get some deadwood out

Holy ****

HendoDelivered
08-01-2023, 07:16 PM
Get a director of football in , Michael Stewart would be decent or someone like that , might get some deadwood out

🤣

gbhibby
08-01-2023, 07:21 PM
Get a director of football in , Michael Stewart would be decent or someone like that , might get some deadwood out
Wonder what his narrative will be.(seems to constantly use the word narrative)

Iain G
08-01-2023, 07:26 PM
Wonder what his narrative will be.(seems to constantly use the word narrative)

Not sure what identity he will bring...

04Sauzee
08-01-2023, 08:30 PM
I see Connor Ronan was on the bench for Wolves for their cup tie against Liverpool last night. I wonder if he's still in their plans or filling a spot due to it being the cup?

Paulie Walnuts
08-01-2023, 09:27 PM
I see Connor Ronan was on the bench for Wolves for their cup tie against Liverpool last night. I wonder if he's still in their plans or filling a spot due to it being the cup?

He’s been on the bench for about half of their league games. Think he came on for a total of 1 min of league football and he got just over an hour in a league cup game earlier in the season.

The Tubs
08-01-2023, 09:46 PM
Get a director of football in , Michael Stewart would be decent or someone like that , might get some deadwood out

I hear Terry Butcher’s available.

Squealing pig
08-01-2023, 10:12 PM
Michael Stewart was just a suggestion as he talks a lot of sense on the tv regarding our problems , someone that can identity the ***** and replace it with decent pros will do for me , anyone who fits that criteria

Helensburghhibs
08-01-2023, 10:25 PM
Get a director of football in , Michael Stewart would be decent or someone like that , might get some deadwood out

Hahahahahhahahahahahhaha nae qualifications, an utter bellend but...... does he have an identity

Paulie Walnuts
09-01-2023, 08:53 AM
Surprised there’s still not been any rumours. Nearly a third of the way through the window.

Hopefully things start to pick up over the next day or so..

Real Emerald
09-01-2023, 10:22 AM
Surprised there’s still not been any rumours. Nearly a third of the way through the window.

Hopefully things start to pick up over the next day or so..

I’m not convinced we’re trying to get anyone in. Unless I’ve missed something we’re not even talking about recruitment. The only snippets I’ve heard was the manager would rather have a couple of quality players than 10 not so good and he said after Boyle got injured that he’d like a player to replace him. Apart from that there’s been no talk of bringing players in. Unless I’ve missed it of course?

04Sauzee
09-01-2023, 10:40 AM
Hearts close to signing James Hill on loan from Bournemouth to cover while Halket is out injured

Greenworld
09-01-2023, 11:01 AM
I’m not convinced we’re trying to get anyone in. Unless I’ve missed something we’re not even talking about recruitment. The only snippets I’ve heard was the manager would rather have a couple of quality players than 10 not so good and he said after Boyle got injured that he’d like a player to replace him. Apart from that there’s been no talk of bringing players in. Unless I’ve missed it of course?It could be 1 of many things .
Completing the new recruitment team and not buying until it is done.
Trying to move on more players first .
I do not beleive we are not going to bring in at least three players .
After watching the motherwell game you can see where the problems are .
In midfield the only player I would keep is mcguiness. So 2 midfield players and another defensive player required if porteous goes this window then 2 defensive players required.
Do I think this will happen, No!



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Since452
09-01-2023, 11:05 AM
Nisbet is easily £3m - £4m with the form he is in.

Much as we need to keep a hold of him, it's up to Ron's son as Head of Recruitment. If a bid of £4m comes in from a club like Sheffield Utd who are going for promotion, I would expect Ron's son to be on the blower to his daddy in darkest Peru (think that's where Ron is just now) asking if he should accept it. Nisbet has 1 year left on his contract. He will look around and see the shambles of the last couple of years and will not sign a new contract, as Porteous has not.

As Ron has said before he is at Hibs to make profit and this would represent 10x profit on what we paid for Nisbet. Understand Dunfermilne will take a fair chunk of any fee we receive.

The problem we have is that we have clowns in charge of recruitment who are making ludicrous decisions. Imagine Ron's son with around £3m more to spend.

Frightening.

Why cant you ever call Ian Gordon by his name? Is your hatred for him so strong that you can't even call him by his name?

Hibernian Verse
09-01-2023, 11:06 AM
Why cant you ever call Ian Gordon by his name? Is your hatred for him so strong that you can't even call him by his name?

It's an intelligent plant to show him in a bad light. Quite smart really :greengrin

Iain G
09-01-2023, 11:17 AM
Hearts close to signing James Hill on loan from Bournemouth to cover while Halket is out injured

Not sure Jimmy Hill will do a job for them :greengrin

I'm Spartacus
09-01-2023, 11:32 AM
Hearts close to signing James Hill on loan from Bournemouth to cover while Halket is out injured

What was the old Jimmy Hill song again?

NC1875
09-01-2023, 11:33 AM
Not sure Jimmy Hill will do a job for them :greengrin

He’ll take it on the chin

Torto7
09-01-2023, 11:38 AM
Why cant you ever call Ian Gordon by his name? Is your hatred for him so strong that you can't even call him by his name?

He has info on the Gordons that he hasn't shared so far..... Ian Gordon is learning about his fathers business. He isnt just involved in recruitment infact we're still using an agency that Mathie was using for example. He's the pantomime villian though for some.

Trinity Hibee
09-01-2023, 11:57 AM
Seeing rumours on twitter of John Park coming back to head up recruitment.

h1bs4life
09-01-2023, 11:58 AM
https://the72.co.uk/2023/01/09/watford-could-sign-23-year-old-on-loan-if-udinese-sign-him-this-month-says-journalist/

Porteous to Udinese and then to join Watford on loan ?

04Sauzee
09-01-2023, 11:59 AM
Seeing rumours on twitter of John Park coming back to head up recruitment.

Seen the rumours, folk speculating if it would be Head off recruitment or DOF

Trinity Hibee
09-01-2023, 12:00 PM
Seen the rumours, folk speculating if it would be Head off recruitment or DOF

Has a great CV and must have huge amount of contacts

offshorehibby
09-01-2023, 12:02 PM
Seeing rumours on twitter of John Park coming back to head up recruitment.

Thought he was something to do with the huns now. It would be a great appointment if true.

Trinity Hibee
09-01-2023, 12:04 PM
Thought he was something to do with the huns now. It would be a great appointment if true.

Rumours Beale wants to bring his own people in apparently. Could be totally made up.

MrRobot
09-01-2023, 12:09 PM
Nisbet is easily £3m - £4m with the form he is in.

Much as we need to keep a hold of him, it's up to Ron's son as Head of Recruitment. If a bid of £4m comes in from a club like Sheffield Utd who are going for promotion, I would expect Ron's son to be on the blower to his daddy in darkest Peru (think that's where Ron is just now) asking if he should accept it. Nisbet has 1 year left on his contract. He will look around and see the shambles of the last couple of years and will not sign a new contract, as Porteous has not.

As Ron has said before he is at Hibs to make profit and this would represent 10x profit on what we paid for Nisbet. Understand Dunfermilne will take a fair chunk of any fee we receive.

The problem we have is that we have clowns in charge of recruitment who are making ludicrous decisions. Imagine Ron's son with around £3m more to spend.

Frightening.

Does head of recruitment also negotiate and decide on player sales?

Ozyhibby
09-01-2023, 12:13 PM
Seeing rumours on twitter of John Park coming back to head up recruitment.

Would be an excellent appointment. Feel sure he would sign a centre mid.[emoji106]


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weecounty hibby
09-01-2023, 12:18 PM
What was the old Jimmy Hill song again?

It was because he was really arrogant! Something like "we hate Jimmy Hill he's aloof!!!" Changed days indeed

NC1875
09-01-2023, 12:27 PM
Seeing rumours on twitter of John Park coming back to head up recruitment.

That would be a good start to solving some of our off field problems. Not heard anything about it though other than here.

Spike Mandela
09-01-2023, 12:30 PM
It was because he was really arrogant! Something like "we hate Jimmy Hill he's aloof!!!" Changed days indeed

I see what you did there.😄 I’ll do the funnies.:rolleyes:

Bridge hibs
09-01-2023, 01:08 PM
Has a great CV and must have huge amount of contactsCareful, remember he scouted Zibby for Mowbray 😀

weecounty hibby
09-01-2023, 01:08 PM
I see what you did there.😄 I’ll do the funnies.:rolleyes:
You being funny would be a first! A bit like you buying a round. Anyway, signings eh!!

Since452
09-01-2023, 01:41 PM
Roberto Martinez must have the best agent in the world.

sadtom
09-01-2023, 01:45 PM
Seeing rumours on twitter of John Park coming back to head up recruitment.

If true, that might be the best bit of business that we have done in long time.

Ringothedog
09-01-2023, 01:53 PM
If true, that might be the best bit of business that we have done in long time.

G, it’s only a good bit of business if he arrives and improves things.

Billy Whizz
09-01-2023, 02:06 PM
G, it’s only a good bit of business if he arrives and improves things.

Or is allowed to improve things

OldEast
09-01-2023, 02:07 PM
G, it’s only a good bit of business if he arrives and improves things.

And of course how much control Ron Gordon wants to give him.

SaulGoodman
09-01-2023, 02:08 PM
Roberto Martinez must have the best agent in the world.

Must have the same agent as Kamberi

Hibees1973
09-01-2023, 02:12 PM
Or is allowed to improve things

Very good point Billy.

I'm sceptical that John Park will come back. If he does it will only be if Ron bins his son and restructures the whole recruitment dept. They will also need to employ/re-employ a whole load of scouts that have been fired.

jacomo
09-01-2023, 02:16 PM
Seen the rumours, folk speculating if it would be Head off recruitment or DOF


Head off recruitment has been the problem over the past couple of years. Would like to see more brains not less. :wink:

cameronw-hfc
09-01-2023, 02:16 PM
Very good point Billy.

I'm sceptical that John Park will come back. If he does it will only be if Ron bins his son and restructures the whole recruitment dept. They will also need to employ/re-employ a whole load of scouts that have been fired.


It's already been as much as confirmed we are restructuring the whole dept. I and a few others posted about hearing things a month or so ago, and then Harper said on Hibs TV hes been let go as they're doing a restructure of the dept so as good as confirmed at this point.

SaulGoodman
09-01-2023, 02:17 PM
Very good point Billy.

I'm sceptical that John Park will come back. If he does it will only be if Ron bins his son and restructures the whole recruitment dept. They will also need to employ/re-employ a whole load of scouts that have been fired.

He’s called Ian

Hibees1973
09-01-2023, 02:22 PM
He’s called Ian

Saul.

Just humour me and play along with it.

weecounty hibby
09-01-2023, 02:26 PM
Not a transfer rumour but Gareth Bale has retired from football

SaulGoodman
09-01-2023, 02:31 PM
Saul.

Just humour me and play along with it.

I did the first 20 times 🤣

MWHIBBIES
09-01-2023, 02:35 PM
Roberto Martinez must have the best agent in the world.

Do you think he failed at Belgium? I think he'll do really well with Portugal.

Hibees1973
09-01-2023, 02:35 PM
I did the first 20 times 🤣

Totally understand...and no offence taken.

It's kind of become my calling card. Might drop it in a while, but it appears going by the info on hibs.net that his days are numbered anyway.

JimBHibees
09-01-2023, 02:40 PM
Do you think he failed at Belgium? I think he'll do really well with Portugal.

Tend to agree think he did very well for them. Probably wasn't helped by their consistent rank as number one team in the World. Lost a very tight World Cup semi v France which if they won the would likely have taken the cup home.

NC1875
09-01-2023, 02:40 PM
Totally understand...and no offence taken.

It's kind of become my calling card. Might drop it in a while, but it appears going by the info on hibs.net that his days are numbered anyway.

Who’s days ?

Hibbyradge
09-01-2023, 02:47 PM
Head off recruitment has been the problem over the past couple of years. Would like to see more brains not less. :wink:

Beat me to it! :greengrin

Ringothedog
09-01-2023, 02:55 PM
Or is allowed to improve things

Which is my point exactly.

Iain G
09-01-2023, 02:55 PM
Not a transfer rumour but Gareth Bale has retired from football

Signing for the Hearts then? :greengrin

Ringothedog
09-01-2023, 02:58 PM
And of course how much control Ron Gordon wants to give him.

My thoughts as well, but I doubt he would take the position if he did not have total control.

SMAXXA
09-01-2023, 03:27 PM
Very good point Billy.

I'm sceptical that John Park will come back. If he does it will only be if Ron bins his son and restructures the whole recruitment dept. They will also need to employ/re-employ a whole load of scouts that have been fired.

Do you honestly think RG would restrict someone like this with his knowledge and experience if so can you provide your rational? This myth RG would want to micro manage or put blockers in place is bollox, he wants the best possible people working to make the club successful. Re his sons appointment and poor recruitment I’d expect is something he’s learned from hence trying to improve.

Hibees1973
09-01-2023, 03:53 PM
Do you honestly think RG would restrict someone like this with his knowledge and experience if so can you provide your rational? This myth RG would want to micro manage or put blockers in place is bollox, he wants the best possible people working to make the club successful. Re his sons appointment and poor recruitment I’d expect is something he’s learned from hence trying to improve.

My rationale is Ron's ego.

His ego has been big enough up until now is to appoint and retain his unqualified son as Head of Recruitment.

i will be delighted if Ron has binned his ego, removed his son and appoints John Park as Head of Recruitment at Hibs.

Only when Ron appoints John Park and allows him to put in place a professional approach to player recruitment, will I believe that he has binned his ego.

Jones28
09-01-2023, 03:56 PM
My rationale is Ron's ego.

His ego has been big enough up until now is to appoint and retain his unqualified son as Head of Recruitment.

i will be delighted if Ron has binned his ego, removed his son and appoints John Park as Head of Recruitment at Hibs.

Only when Ron appoints John Park and allows him to put in place a professional approach to player recruitment, will I believe that he has binned his ego.

If RG appoints Park/Collins whoever, does it change your estimations of him regardless of what happens to Iain?

Hibees1973
09-01-2023, 04:06 PM
If RG appoints Park/Collins whoever, does it change your estimations of him regardless of what happens to Iain?

Yes, 100%.

There is never any guarantee of success, but surely you must have experienced and qualified people in key roles at a football club. Bar a couple of signings (Boyle & Marshall in particular) can anyone on here say that out of the 20+ players signed over the couple have many proved a success.

This development squad is a complete farce. We have dozens of players not getting proper game time and as others have said it seems to have blocked the path of some of our most promising under 19 players to the 1st team.

Hibby Kay-Yay
09-01-2023, 04:09 PM
Yes, 100%.

There is never any guarantee of success, but surely you must have experienced and qualified people in key roles at a football club. Bar a couple of signings (Boyle & Marshall in particular) can anyone on here say that out of the 20+ players signed over the couple have many proved a success.

This development squad is a complete farce. We have dozens of players not getting proper game time and as others have said it seems to have blocked the path of some of our most promising under 19 players to the 1st team.

Are you more likely to have a successful restaurant if you have a chef or just someone that really likes food in charge of the product?

Relevant experience is a big part in this and it’s what is showing IG up. Just now he is looking like someone who watched Moneyball and then tried to apply it here.

04Sauzee
09-01-2023, 05:11 PM
3 boys back at the club

We can confirm that Jack Brydon, Allan Delferrière and Emmanuel Johnson have all returned from their loan spells at @FC_Edinburgh

wookie70
09-01-2023, 05:20 PM
More young players who will need game time to continue to develop.

mcfly
09-01-2023, 05:23 PM
Hearts signing 3 players.

We will no doubt scramble around for loan deals at end of window.

Facts are facts we are falling behind in trying to keep up for best of rest.

Too little quality in our squad.

Fans need a lift and quick

Iain G
09-01-2023, 05:23 PM
Yes, 100%.

There is never any guarantee of success, but surely you must have experienced and qualified people in key roles at a football club. Bar a couple of signings (Boyle & Marshall in particular) can anyone on here say that out of the 20+ players signed over the couple have many proved a success.

This development squad is a complete farce. We have dozens of players not getting proper game time and as others have said it seems to have blocked the path of some of our most promising under 19 players to the 1st team.

Dozens? So 24 at least if not 36? 🤣

HH81
09-01-2023, 05:30 PM
Hearts signing 3 players.

We will no doubt scramble around for loan deals at end of window.

Facts are facts we are falling behind in trying to keep up for best of rest.

Too little quality in our squad.

Fans need a lift and quick

No point rushing and getting worse players in. Rather take time and get the right players.

CapitalGreen
09-01-2023, 05:39 PM
More young players who will need game time to continue to develop.

It means we can send 3 other players to Edinburgh City.

HIBS NUTS
09-01-2023, 05:40 PM
3 boys back at the club

We can confirm that Jack Brydon, Allan Delferrière and Emmanuel Johnson have all returned from their loan spells at @FC_Edinburgh

Unfortunately they have returned to hibs, because they weren’t deemed to be not good enough for FC edinburgh.

Colr
09-01-2023, 05:41 PM
We should get Bale to do a Best!! There’s some great golf to be had in Scotland!

Tyler Durden
09-01-2023, 05:42 PM
Unfortunately they have returned to hibs, because they weren’t deemed to be not good enough for FC edinburgh.

They weren’t deemed to be not good enough? That right aye?

HFC93
09-01-2023, 05:42 PM
Really?

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mcfly
09-01-2023, 05:46 PM
No point rushing and getting worse players in. Rather take time and get the right players.

We brought in so many players I’ve no faith in this board to bring in any quality.

Stuart93
09-01-2023, 05:46 PM
No point rushing and getting worse players in. Rather take time and get the right players.

I don’t think the amount of time effects how good the player is.

Is all about how properly prepared you are for the transfer window

Iain G
09-01-2023, 05:48 PM
We brought in so many players I’ve no faith in this board to bring in any quality.

So the board are at fault now? Thought it was Ian Gordon and Mathie before him that was the issue?

davhibby
09-01-2023, 05:48 PM
They weren’t deemed to be not good enough? That right aye?

The double negative makes the post correct to be fair. I was impressed with what I watched of Brydon and Delferriere in the summer and wouldn’t be too disappointed if we let Fish go back to United and Brydon takes his squad place.

HIBS NUTS
09-01-2023, 05:49 PM
Really?

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I met the FC Chairman at musselburgh racecourse on new year’s day, he told me they were being sent back to hibs, as they weren’t in their plans.

green day
09-01-2023, 05:50 PM
Unfortunately they have returned to hibs, because they weren’t deemed to be not good enough for FC edinburgh.

Its not quite as clear as you state...............

Winston Ingram
09-01-2023, 06:00 PM
Unfortunately they have returned to hibs, because they weren’t deemed to be not good enough for FC edinburgh.

I don’t think that’s true of Brydon. He’s been a regular. Johnson’s barely featured and Delfierre hasn’t been in the squad for weeks

HIBS NUTS
09-01-2023, 06:03 PM
I don’t think that’s true of Brydon. He’s been a regular. Johnson’s barely featured and Delfierre hasn’t been in the squad for weeks
It’s not positive news, i can assure you.

Brightside
09-01-2023, 06:12 PM
I met the FC Chairman at musselburgh racecourse on new year’s day, he told me they were being sent back to hibs, as they weren’t in their plans.

Nothing to do with not being good enough. They were 3 of the best players in the team. But issues with training schedules etc have knocked it on the head.

Iain G
09-01-2023, 06:22 PM
It’s not positive news, i can assure you.

Well that's good of you 🤣

AlbertK86
09-01-2023, 06:25 PM
Unfortunately they have returned to hibs, because they weren’t deemed to be not good enough for FC edinburgh.

Pretty sure the plan was for sixth months development and then others to go out on loan. Might be wrong but sure I read that at the time.

Pretty sure Delfierre is a right back and Centre Midfielder. With Cadden off injured, Miller still injured he could be a potential right back.

Looked good preseason and I was surprised we loaned him out in the first place.


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HIBS NUTS
09-01-2023, 06:27 PM
Time will tell !
Let’s hope they all push for a place in the first team, we should know quite soon.
I had great hopes for Allan-D 👍🏻

Donegal Hibby
09-01-2023, 06:32 PM
The double negative makes the post correct to be fair. I was impressed with what I watched of Brydon and Delferriere in the summer and wouldn’t be too disappointed if we let Fish go back to United and Brydon takes his squad place.
I was the same specially with delferriere I thought he looked very good and was really surprised when he went to FC Edinburgh.
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/three-loanees-return-from-fc-edinburgh

Gaffer1875
09-01-2023, 06:44 PM
Both Ryan Jack and Scott Arfield out of contract in the summer from the rangers. Tin hat on but I’d take both at Hibs although can see RJ signing a new deal.


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Alex Trager
09-01-2023, 06:45 PM
Both Ryan Jack and Scott Arfield out of contract in the summer from the rangers. Tin hat on but I’d take both at Hibs although can see RJ signing a new deal.


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Don’t think you need a tin hat on for they two tbf mate

Winston Ingram
09-01-2023, 06:48 PM
Both Ryan Jack and Scott Arfield out of contract in the summer from the rangers. Tin hat on but I’d take both at Hibs although can see RJ signing a new deal.


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They’re both talking to the Huns about a new deal. No danger are they coming here

NC1875
09-01-2023, 06:53 PM
Airfields a great player. Can’t stand Ryan Jacks puss though

HoboHarry
09-01-2023, 06:55 PM
Both Ryan Jack and Scott Arfield out of contract in the summer from the rangers. Tin hat on but I’d take both at Hibs although can see RJ signing a new deal.


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Miles above our pay league.

Auckland Hibs
09-01-2023, 06:58 PM
Both Ryan Jack and Scott Arfield out of contract in the summer from the rangers. Tin hat on but I’d take both at Hibs although can see RJ signing a new deal.


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We tried to get Arfield several times when he was at Falkirk - pretty sure Yogi was keen for him to join us but he went down south instead.

Donegal Hibby
09-01-2023, 07:00 PM
Are both not Dyed-in-the-wool Huns also ?

BoomtownHibees
09-01-2023, 07:14 PM
Are both not Dyed-in-the-wool Huns also ?

Arfield’s family are Celtc supporters

ericd7
09-01-2023, 07:21 PM
Time will tell !
Let’s hope they all push for a place in the first team, we should know quite soon.
I had great hopes for Allan-D 👍🏻

If he turns out anything like he did in my FM23 save then he'll be refusing to sign a new deal and ****ing off on a free to Espanyol in 12 months time costing us about 8 million :greengrin

04Sauzee
09-01-2023, 07:23 PM
Alex Lacovitti out of contact in the summer. Big 6'4 LCB at Ross County. Can't tell you much about him other than the fact Ross County fans rate him highly.

Not rumoured to be after him just a name that I came across when I was looking at players nearing the end of their contract 😀

Mcbizz1998
09-01-2023, 07:23 PM
Pretty sure the plan was for sixth months development and then others to go out on loan. Might be wrong but sure I read that at the time.

Pretty sure Delfierre is a right back and Centre Midfielder. With Cadden off injured, Miller still injured he could be a potential right back.

Looked good preseason and I was surprised we loaned him out in the first place.


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Agree. I thought Delfierre looked a better player than Kenneh (so far) in the DM role.

Gaffer1875
09-01-2023, 07:24 PM
Miles above our pay league.

True, but Boyle will be on a pretty penny and if LJ gets his wish (10 out for 1 quality) you never know.


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bingo70
09-01-2023, 07:25 PM
Alex Lacovitti out of contact in the summer. Big 6'4 LCB at Ross County. Can't tell you much about him other than the fact Ross County fans rate him highly.

I suggested him earlier on in the season.

I don’t know much about him other than I thought he was good in a couple of games I’ve seen him play.

Not the most exciting or sexiest of signings but he’d be good i think.

hibee1875
09-01-2023, 07:28 PM
Alex Lacovitti out of contact in the summer. Big 6'4 LCB at Ross County. Can't tell you much about him other than the fact Ross County fans rate him highly.

Not rumoured to be after him just a name that I came across when I was looking at players nearing the end of their contract 😀

Did he not score against us in the game before Christmas?

WeeRussell
09-01-2023, 07:30 PM
Airfields a great player. Can’t stand Ryan Jacks puss though

Other way round for me 😁

cameronw-hfc
09-01-2023, 07:32 PM
Arfield’s family are Celtc supporters

He went to my school, few years before me right enough. Mind my PE teacher saying he was a Hibby but had a feeling he got confused and was a Celtic man as heard his family are celtic.

Brightside
09-01-2023, 07:33 PM
Agree. I thought Delfierre looked a better player than Kenneh (so far) in the DM role.

In what game? He’s not played against league side yet.

Hibby Kay-Yay
09-01-2023, 07:34 PM
I suggested him earlier on in the season.

I don’t know much about him other than I thought he was good in a couple of games I’ve seen him play.

Not the most exciting or sexiest of signings but he’d be good i think.

Exciting and sexy cost money, no matter what the product

bigwheel
09-01-2023, 07:34 PM
Miles above our pay league.

Agreed. Jack will get a good move if he doesn’t get an extension ….Likely championship down south …quality player . Well above our level of contract

Donegal Hibby
09-01-2023, 07:41 PM
Arfield’s family are Celtc supporters
You have me surprised about that , always took it he was a right Hun the way he salute's to the horde's when he scores . Read in one of the papers that Hajduk split are monitoring Stephen Welsh's situation at parkhead, think a few have mentioned him on here .

Iain G
09-01-2023, 07:43 PM
Airfields a great player. Can’t stand Ryan Jacks puss though

Don't think we have any chance on landing Scott

GordonHFC
09-01-2023, 07:44 PM
Don't think we have any chance on landing Scott

🤣

J-C
09-01-2023, 07:44 PM
Pretty sure the plan was for sixth months development and then others to go out on loan. Might be wrong but sure I read that at the time.

Pretty sure Delfierre is a right back and Centre Midfielder. With Cadden off injured, Miller still injured he could be a potential right back.

Looked good preseason and I was surprised we loaned him out in the first place.


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Delferriere is very versatile, he can play DM, CM, CB and RB and he was one of the bright sparks in pre season.

Crab apple
09-01-2023, 07:48 PM
In what game? He’s not played against league side yet.

Only time I’ve seen him was in he second half of the Burton game in Portugal where I thought he impressed.

NC1875
09-01-2023, 07:51 PM
Don't think we have any chance on landing Scott

Boom boom. Autocorrect on phone 🤣

Allant1981
09-01-2023, 08:05 PM
He went to my school, few years before me right enough. Mind my PE teacher saying he was a Hibby but had a feeling he got confused and was a Celtic man as heard his family are celtic.

St Margaret's? Airfield was definitely a celtic fan at school, he is mates with a friend of mine

K-Zazu
09-01-2023, 08:09 PM
In what game? He’s not played against league side yet.

A friendly against some pub team probably

S4uzee
09-01-2023, 08:11 PM
Amazed it’s almost 10 days into January and not even a single rumour

bingo70
09-01-2023, 08:15 PM
Amazed it’s almost 10 days into January and not even a single rumour

There was one rumour, the defender from Burnley, but he signed for Birmingham.

Not sure that makes it any better 😂

Stuart93
09-01-2023, 08:16 PM
Like I said at the start of the window, we’re sitting with our finger up our arse whilst our rivals across the city are supposedly closing in on their 4th signing and Aberdeen have made a cracking signing who’s already started impacting games

Are our hierarchy already giving up on the euro spots?

Fergus52
09-01-2023, 08:17 PM
Amazed it’s almost 10 days into January and not even a single rumour

Got the Gambian boy that followed us on Instagram as well

SteveHFC
09-01-2023, 08:18 PM
Like I said at the start of the window, we’re sitting with our finger up our arse whilst our rivals across the city are supposedly closing in on their 4th signing and Aberdeen have made a cracking signing.

Are our hierarchy already giving up on the euro spots?

Looking forward to us announcing loan deals from Swansea and Middlesbrough on the final day.

Brightside
09-01-2023, 08:18 PM
Only time I’ve seen him was in he second half of the Burton game in Portugal where I thought he impressed.

Aye when every one of our players looked like superstars. Believe me if these boys were good enough they’d be playing for us now.

jeffers
09-01-2023, 08:19 PM
There was one rumour, the defender from Burnley, but he signed for Birmingham.

Not sure that makes it any better 😂

Don’t know what is worse, that we haven’t signed anyone yet or we haven’t been linked with someone we can write off before they sign :greengrin

Unseen work
09-01-2023, 08:19 PM
I wonder if the board were slow with authorising any ins/outs until after the Motherwell game as if we lost they might have sacked Johnson?

Now it’s won they’ll authorise the signings/sale of players and back him?

04Sauzee
09-01-2023, 08:30 PM
Hearts closing in on Paterson which I'm surprised about as he's still getting game time although limited at Wednesday and not sure where he will play at Hearts.

Leith Green
09-01-2023, 08:32 PM
Hearts closing in on Paterson which I'm surprised about as he's still getting game time although limited at Wednesday and not sure where he will play at Hearts.


Pretty sure they are struggling with injuries at full back . So im guessing he would plug a hole defensively in a couple of positions

B.H.F.C
09-01-2023, 08:33 PM
Hearts closing in on Paterson which I'm surprised about as he's still getting game time although limited at Wednesday and not sure where he will play at Hearts.

Just strengthens their squad though.

I didn’t think our 11 looked too bad yesterday. It’s not brilliant but it’s not bad. But when you look beyond that there is very little there.

S4uzee
09-01-2023, 08:34 PM
Hearts closing in on Paterson which I'm surprised about as he's still getting game time although limited at Wednesday and not sure where he will play at Hearts.

Can he play in the cup tie?

04Sauzee
09-01-2023, 08:35 PM
Pretty sure they are struggling with injuries at full back . So im guessing he would plug a hole defensively in a couple of positions

Ah didn't know they had injuries hadn't heard the media talk about it for a while so assumed they had all cleared up 😀

Funny player because sure he was used as RB at Hearts and played up front on occasion, think he's played as a forward more often than not when he plays for Wednesday, could be talking nonsense mind.

HendoDelivered
09-01-2023, 08:44 PM
Are both not Dyed-in-the-wool Huns also ?

Why does that matter? If they do a job for us and fully commit to Hibs then I couldn’t care who they support tbf

HendoDelivered
09-01-2023, 08:44 PM
Hearts closing in on Paterson which I'm surprised about as he's still getting game time although limited at Wednesday and not sure where he will play at Hearts.

Cracking signing IMO

04Sauzee
09-01-2023, 08:45 PM
Mark Atkinson from the Scotsman

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/ryan-porteous-udinese-facing-battle-for-hibs-defender-as-belgian-club-and-championship-outfits-retain-interest-3980295

Ryan Porteous: Udinese facing battle for Hibs defender as Belgian club and Championship outfits retain interest
Udinese face competition from a handful of clubs both in England and overseas for the signature of Hibs defender Ryan Porteous


The Italian Serie A outfit last week emerged as one of the main contenders for the 23-year-old Scottish defender, who is out of contract at the end of the season and has told Hibs that he will not stay beyond the summer despite numerous renewal offers. And while Udinese still retain a desire to secure Porteous’ services, they are not the only club on the continent eyeing up a move. Belgian side Oostende, who are struggling at the wrong end of the Jupiler League and are currently in the relegation zone, have long been admirers of the centre-half and plan to invest in their squad this month. There remains suitors in the English Championship too, with Millwall, Hull City and Sunderland all linked with the player.

Porteous returned from suspension on Sunday to help Hibs record a much-needed victory in the cinch Premiership against Motherwell. He remains a key part of manager Lee Johnson’s squad and while Hibs are keen to recoup some money for him in January and will listen to offers, he will continue to play for the team until told otherwise. “I’m not sure about Ryan’s situation,” Johnson said in the wake of the victory at Fir Park. “I’m just trying to focus on the games while [chief executive] Ben Kensell and [head of recruitment] Ian Gordon work away in the background. I’m obviously a part of it and add valued opinion but full focus has been on the Motherwell game. Ryan is a quality player, simple as that. We would have played him against Hearts if he was available, he was available for Motherwell, and I wanted him to play.”


Porteous is not the only player set for the exit door at Hibs, with Johnson keen to slim down his squad. He has spoken about moving people on in the wake of some recent poor form, but so far only striker Momodou Bojang has departed from the first team after his loan deal with FC Rainbow was cut short. The Hibees boss is also still hopeful of making one or two key additions for the second half of the season.

Leith Green
09-01-2023, 08:45 PM
Ah didn't know they had injuries hadn't heard the media talk about it for a while so assumed they had all cleared up 😀

Funny player because sure he was used as RB at Hearts and played up front on occasion, think he's played as a forward more often than not when he plays for Wednesday, could be talking nonsense mind.


Im guessing his versatility will be a major factor in his signing. As you say , he can play in a few positions and they have took a hammering with injuries this season.

K-Zazu
09-01-2023, 08:51 PM
Aberdeen and Hearts blowing us out the water in the transfer market signing players like shinnie and Paterson

Hibernian Verse
09-01-2023, 08:51 PM
Arfield already has a verbal agreement to add another year to his deal. Staying at the Huns.

jeffers
09-01-2023, 09:02 PM
I know I’m having yet another go at him, however if that is a direct quote did Johnson really need to say he added valued opinion ? Saying he was part of the process would have sufficed.

Torto7
09-01-2023, 09:03 PM
Aberdeen and Hearts blowing us out the water in the transfer market signing players like shinnie and Paterson

Do you think either of them would join us given the choice? Ones an Aberdonian and ones an ex ****. Why get worked up about players that would never want to join us?

B.H.F.C
09-01-2023, 09:06 PM
Do you think either of them would join us given the choice? Ones an Aberdonian and ones an ex ****. Why get worked up about players that would never want to join us?

Don’t think anybody would have expected us to be in for either player. It’s more the point they are both looking to strengthen whilst we, who need to strengthen the most, aren’t doing anything and the only chat is about outgoings. Fully expect that to remain the case for the time being as well.

SaulGoodman
09-01-2023, 09:07 PM
Do you think either of them would join us given the choice? Ones an Aberdonian and ones an ex ****. Why get worked up about players that would never want to join us?

Don’t think he’s saying we should’ve signed those specific players. Just that we should be looking at players of that quality.

Donegal Hibby
09-01-2023, 09:11 PM
Why does that matter? If they do a job for us and fully commit to Hibs then I couldn’t care who they support tbf
It doesn't matter , just thought if he was a Hun he'd be more keen to stay there !

500miles
09-01-2023, 09:12 PM
Aye when every one of our players looked like superstars. Believe me if these boys were good enough they’d be playing for us now.

You're putting a lot of faith in the guys who signed Bojang and loaned out Bradley.

Donegal Hibby
09-01-2023, 09:18 PM
The Ryan Porteous situation , what would be a realistic figure we would get for him now ?

1875Sean
09-01-2023, 09:21 PM
The Ryan Porteous situation , what would be a realistic figure we would get for him now ?

It’s being quoted on twitter that we are looking for 250k, not sure how much is in it

MrRobot
09-01-2023, 09:25 PM
It’s being quoted on twitter that we are looking for 250k, not sure how much is in it

That would be a ridiculous fee to receive, even if he only has 6 months left on his contract. Would be best keeping him until the summer.

JimBHibees
09-01-2023, 09:26 PM
They’re both talking to the Huns about a new deal. No danger are they coming here

Yep not a chance

JimBHibees
09-01-2023, 09:27 PM
That would be a ridiculous fee to receive, even if he only has 6 months left on his contract. Would be best keeping him until the summer.

Yep no point more value staying with us

SMAXXA
09-01-2023, 09:28 PM
Don’t think anybody would have expected us to be in for either player. It’s more the point they are both looking to strengthen whilst we, who need to strengthen the most, aren’t doing anything and the only chat is about outgoings. Fully expect that to remain the case for the time being as well.

But that’s not true we arnt doing nothing we are working on things and will announce someone when it’s sorted. Just because things arnt done yet doesn’t mean to say we arnt trying. It is mega frustrating as I know we all want signings in, I’d rather wait for better quality than pull the trigger on a player cause we can make it happen. Like it or not Hearts and Aberdeen are a more attractive proposition for a player at the moment, we have a big job to do good business January and come out stronger. I’m not convinced we will come out stronger than the other 2 mentioned but would expect us to come out in better shape (exception losing Porto)

Hibbyradge
09-01-2023, 09:28 PM
I know I’m having yet another go at him, however if that is a direct quote did Johnson really need to say he added valued opinion ? Saying he was part of the process would have sufficed.

The thing is that he's more than just a part of the process. His opinion is very important and weighs heavily in any decisions. That's what I think he's trying to say in the one word, "valued".

I do wish you'd give him the benefit of the doubt sometimes.

I have the feeling that if he'd said, my opinion is very important you'd be having a fit! :hilarious

SMAXXA
09-01-2023, 09:28 PM
It’s being quoted on twitter that we are looking for 250k, not sure how much is in it

Double that

NC1875
09-01-2023, 09:28 PM
That would be a ridiculous fee to receive, even if he only has 6 months left on his contract. Would be best keeping him until the summer.

It would be 250k with a sell on clause though. If he leaves for nothing in the summer, we get nothing.

04Sauzee
09-01-2023, 09:32 PM
Double that

You would think so, can't see Hibs dealing at £250k

jeffers
09-01-2023, 09:36 PM
The thing is that he's more than just a part of the process. His opinion is very important and weighs heavily in any decisions. That's what I think he's trying to say in the one word, "valued".

I do wish you'd give him the benefit of the doubt sometimes.

I have the feeling that if he'd said, my opinion is very important you'd be having a fit! :hilarious

I don’t know why he needs to even mention it, or at least use that wording.

Haha no chance, if he said tomorrow was Tuesday I’d be questioning him :greengrin

Donegal Hibby
09-01-2023, 09:37 PM
It’s being quoted on twitter that we are looking for 250k, not sure how much is in it
If it was 250K that was offered for him it would probably be worth more to Hibs financially to keep him if he helped us get 4th place , wouldn't it ?

Percy Vere
09-01-2023, 09:39 PM
Double that

Yup
I’d keep him if we’re not getting £500k
Any chance of a sell on clause?

ElginHibbie
09-01-2023, 09:41 PM
If it was 250K that was offered for him it would probably be worth more to Hibs financially to keep him if he helped us get 4th place , wouldn't it ?

£250k on it's own, no way should that be accepted

£250k + at least 25% sale on fee then there is a decision to be made

1875Sean
09-01-2023, 09:44 PM
If it was 250K that was offered for him it would probably be worth more to Hibs financially to keep him if he helped us get 4th place , wouldn't it ?

Or we end up in the bottom six and could have had a replacement in with that 250k

B.H.F.C
09-01-2023, 09:45 PM
But that’s not true we arnt doing nothing we are working on things and will announce someone when it’s sorted. Just because things arnt done yet doesn’t mean to say we arnt trying. It is mega frustrating as I know we all want signings in, I’d rather wait for better quality than pull the trigger on a player cause we can make it happen. Like it or not Hearts and Aberdeen are a more attractive proposition for a player at the moment, we have a big job to do good business January and come out stronger. I’m not convinced we will come out stronger than the other 2 mentioned but would expect us to come out in better shape (exception losing Porto)

I don’t doubt there is stuff going on in the background but we don’t really have time to be patient at the moment. The win yesterday gives them a wee bit breathing space but I can’t really be bothered with the ‘wait for the right player’ chat this year. There may be an element of truth in it but given how much of a state we’ve been in every game counts, particularly the cup one. Can’t find ourselves at a point where we’re already done for the season by the time we have a player(s) in and ready to play.

Donegal Hibby
09-01-2023, 09:50 PM
Or we end up in the bottom six and could have had a replacement in with that 250k
Think we would have a better chance of top six with Porto in our team than not , I also sadly think we wouldn't get anyone nearly as good for 250k too .

SMAXXA
09-01-2023, 09:52 PM
I don’t doubt there is stuff going on in the background but we don’t really have time to be patient at the moment. The win yesterday gives them a wee bit breathing space but I can’t really be bothered with the ‘wait for the right player’ chat this year. There may be an element of truth in it but given how much of a state we’ve been in every game counts, particularly the cup one. Can’t find ourselves at a point where we’re already done for the season by the time we have a player(s) in and ready to play.

You can’t be bothered with the wait for the right player chat, I’d much rather that than add to the list of mistakes or mediocre players mate. I am as frustrated and inpatient as the next person but it has to be right. I don’t actually think we are far away but a couple of injuries like we have seen and we are in trouble. In this window realistically I’d probably settle for a right good CH and CM both that are of the quality to come in and start from the off. I know we need more but as a minimum I’d take that even if Porto leaves.

S4uzee
09-01-2023, 09:54 PM
I don’t doubt there is stuff going on in the background but we don’t really have time to be patient at the moment. The win yesterday gives them a wee bit breathing space but I can’t really be bothered with the ‘wait for the right player’ chat this year. There may be an element of truth in it but given how much of a state we’ve been in every game counts, particularly the cup one. Can’t find ourselves at a point where we’re already done for the season by the time we have a player(s) in and ready to play.

Totally agree. I remember being unprepared and not having a striker when we went out the cup at Tynecastle in 2018 before then signing Kamberi and MacLaren. We had a good 2nd half to the season but it wasn’t the same not being in the cup especially with the team we had that year.

Hearts will be getting players in early for this game 100% but we always seem to not really be that bothered by how big a game this is.

Nicho87
09-01-2023, 09:55 PM
I’d keep Porto and reject all bids. He’s more valuable to us for the sake of a quick buck.

Get rid of 4/5 plus any others this window and bring in 2 dare I say 3 proper challengers for first team spots and we might just make a late charge for Europe.

B.H.F.C
09-01-2023, 10:01 PM
You can’t be bothered with the wait for the right player chat, I’d much rather that than add to the list of mistakes or mediocre players mate. I am as frustrated and inpatient as the next person but it has to be right. I don’t actually think we are far away but a couple of injuries like we have seen and we are in trouble. In this window realistically I’d probably settle for a right good CH and CM both that are of the quality to come in and start from the off. I know we need more but as a minimum I’d take that even if Porto leaves.

I agree on the CH and CM. I’ve never expected an overhaul in this window but if we could get two proper players, even short term, who are guaranteed starters I’d settle for that. My frustration on the wait for the right person chat is that I think it’s one of the oldest cliches in football. Every manager or whoever will say it in every window. Because of our mistakes we got ourselves in to a pretty desperate situation and I just don’t think we have time to wait, particularly when others we should be looking to chase aren’t.

MrRobot
09-01-2023, 10:07 PM
You can’t be bothered with the wait for the right player chat, I’d much rather that than add to the list of mistakes or mediocre players mate. I am as frustrated and inpatient as the next person but it has to be right. I don’t actually think we are far away but a couple of injuries like we have seen and we are in trouble. In this window realistically I’d probably settle for a right good CH and CM both that are of the quality to come in and start from the off. I know we need more but as a minimum I’d take that even if Porto leaves.

Ideally i’d want a starting rb, cm and cb with MacKay to return from loan for LM cover.

PHeffernan
09-01-2023, 10:12 PM
The Ryan Porteous situation , what would be a realistic figure we would get for him now ?

£500k and we may be pushing for more than that with so many clubs interested.

1875Sean
09-01-2023, 10:15 PM
£500k and we may be pushing for more than that with so many clubs interested.

The ball really isn’t in Hibs court, they could just offer Ryan a deal and he accept and it wipes out all the other clubs

PHeffernan
09-01-2023, 10:33 PM
The ball really isn’t in Hibs court, they could just offer Ryan a deal and he accept and it wipes out all the other clubs

He's under contract to Hibs until the summer so they can knock it back.
Obviously common sense will come into it.
Hibs will have to weigh it up.
A 5th place finish and a European place is easily worth £500k and the odds of getting it would be much higher with Ryan than without.

1875Sean
09-01-2023, 11:15 PM
He's under contract to Hibs until the summer so they can knock it back.
Obviously common sense will come into it.
Hibs will have to weigh it up.
A 5th place finish and a European place is easily worth £500k and the odds of getting it would be much higher with Ryan than without.

Yeah that’s obvious just saying can’t really start a bidding war when teams can talk directly too Ryan

For me it all depends if they have a decent replacement lined up, 250k and a decent sell on fee isn’t too bad

sadtom
10-01-2023, 12:12 AM
How much is it in prize money per league position? In my head I think just over £100k? Anyone know?
Given how tight the league is, keeping Ryan could be worth 5-10 pts by end of the season and that could make a difference of 7 places. Being top 6, potentially qualifying for Europe, and a cup derby with the possibility of a cup run.

With that in mind, I very much doubt we will be offered enough cash in a straight up deal to really compensate for him leaving now.
The only way we should only consider selling him now would be for silly money. Or enough cash to fund a decent replacement with a sell on percentage in the hope we get the silly money further down the line.

davhibby
10-01-2023, 12:35 AM
Getting a sell on fee for Porteous would really be the only reason for letting him go now. The current fee doesn’t really matter as it wouldn’t be much but it’s worth it if we can get a half decent sell on.