View Full Version : Greggs Winter 2022-23 transfer thread
Unseen work
25-01-2023, 02:06 PM
Would be surprised if rangers don’t bid if it’s only 2 million. Although he is Celtic daft and they’d have to pay more
Surely another couple of clubs will get in touch if that’s the figure though?
Unseen work
25-01-2023, 02:12 PM
What is happening with Demi Mitchell?
Johnson seemed really excited to have him back and was praising him loads before the Celtic game where he came on for a short period.
Out inured again then started a game where he clearly wasn’t fit and lasted 30 minutes.
Nothing since then.
Mitchell obviously posted an Instagram story when he initially wasn’t in the squad against Celtic which he deleted when he was called in for Kukarevych.
Is it just a falling out? LJ doesn’t trust his fitness?
He’s actually a player I think if for (seems impossible) would be a good player for us
Tyler Durden
25-01-2023, 02:17 PM
What is happening with Demi Mitchell?
Johnson seemed really excited to have him back and was praising him loads before the Celtic game where he came on for a short period.
Out inured again then started a game where he clearly wasn’t fit and lasted 30 minutes.
Nothing since then.
Mitchell obviously posted an Instagram story when he initially wasn’t in the squad against Celtic which he deleted when he was called in for Kukarevych.
Is it just a falling out? LJ doesn’t trust his fitness?
He’s actually a player I think if for (seems impossible) would be a good player for us
He looks like he doesn't want to play football. He's only interested in his clothing line.
I think Hibs are doing our best to get rid this month. He'll probably go on deadline day, hopefully permanently. If not maybe paid off.
Trinity Hibee
25-01-2023, 02:20 PM
He looks like he doesn't want to play football. He's only interested in his clothing line.
I think Hibs are doing our best to get rid this month. He'll probably go on deadline day, hopefully permanently. If not maybe paid off.
Must get rid ASAP. I remember hearts mates telling me he was constantly injured in his second spell there. We’ve also fallen victim to it. I’m
Not sure I’ve seen a more fragile footballer. Maybe Magennis?
Torto7
25-01-2023, 02:20 PM
What is happening with Demi Mitchell?
Johnson seemed really excited to have him back and was praising him loads before the Celtic game where he came on for a short period.
Out inured again then started a game where he clearly wasn’t fit and lasted 30 minutes.
Nothing since then.
Mitchell obviously posted an Instagram story when he initially wasn’t in the squad against Celtic which he deleted when he was called in for Kukarevych.
Is it just a falling out? LJ doesn’t trust his fitness?
He’s actually a player I think if for (seems impossible) would be a good player for us
He's pish and injury prone. Another wage thief who shouldn't be here.
SQHib
25-01-2023, 02:25 PM
SSN saying 2 million plus add ons, we are considering the offer
Actually says 2 mill inc addons which could be made up of mostly add ons - who knows ?
Not great position and also Dunfermline due a sizeable chunk ( 20% ? 30% ? )
Not great
One Day Soon
25-01-2023, 02:45 PM
Doubt we will consider that for long we will take that, the stalling will be to identify a replacement.
Whatever stalling might take place, it won't relate to a replacement. In fact I doubt we will even try to sign a replacement for him in this window.
hibeerealist
25-01-2023, 02:45 PM
I agree.
It's tough, because I appreciate they're our 2 best players but imo Hibs won't be able to move forward until Porteous and Nisbet leave the club.
The decline has been happening since they downed tools after taking the huff 2 years ago. Since then we've had inconsistent, temperamental football from the pair of them and somehow been made to feel like we should be grateful for it.
For the first time in a while we've got a fragmented dressing room and a club that seems to be totally disunited.
Losing the pair of them will be like ripping a plaster off. It's going to be painful and it's not going to come without it's problems but it will be the first step on the way to us actually moving in the right direction.
The recruitment team being trusted to replace them isn't an insignificant problem but it is a separate problem.
I can't wait to see the back of the pair of them.
I accept I'm probably alone in thinking that.
I agree Smartie
Cod Boy
25-01-2023, 02:47 PM
Probably recall Doidge cheap option
LunasBoots
25-01-2023, 02:49 PM
Probably recall Doidge cheap option
Yup, see us through to the summer for a DOF and summer rebuild I'd guess.
kentao
25-01-2023, 02:53 PM
Probably recall Doidge cheap option
I'd rather give the young laddies a chance than bring Doidge back.... Cannae be any worse.
LunasBoots
25-01-2023, 02:56 PM
I'd rather give the young laddies a chance than bring Doidge back.... Cannae be any worse.
Too lightweight
Brightside
25-01-2023, 03:00 PM
Too lightweight
They are Arnie compared to Mckirdy and Jair.
GreenGray
25-01-2023, 03:01 PM
Rumoured Laidlaw has been eyed up by Aston Villa, out of contract end of season alongside a few others from the youth team
Am I right in saying that we spent a decent amount of money on a development squad last summer with the hopes of joining an invitational league with English clubs (turned down chance to join Lowland) for that league to then get cancelled?
Now we’re facing that prospect of losing our own academy players for nothing/ low money and that money could have been spent offering them contracts?
I mean it’s a genuine mess if we’re honest.
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Heisenberg
25-01-2023, 03:02 PM
Am I right in saying that we spent a decent amount of money on a development squad last summer with the hopes of joining an invitational league with English clubs (turned down chance to join Lowland) for that league to then get cancelled?
Now we’re facing that prospect of losing our own academy players for nothing/ low money and that money could have been spent offering them contracts?
I mean it’s a genuine mess if we’re honest.
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The whole plan with the development team has been a complete shambles. Waste of time and money that could’ve been better spent elsewhere. Great job by Ben and the boys again.
Unseen work
25-01-2023, 03:11 PM
Sounds like the deal which could raise to 2.4 has been agreed but just waiting for Ron to agree to it too
04Sauzee
25-01-2023, 03:13 PM
Sounds like the deal which could raise to 2.4 has been agreed but just waiting for Ron to agree to it too
Could raise to 2.4 from what?
I know you don't know the answer to that but that's what I'd like to know.
yerauldda
25-01-2023, 03:16 PM
Could raise to 2.4 from what?
I know you don't know the answer to that but that's what I'd like to know.
£2 mil. £400k add ons
Unseen work
25-01-2023, 03:18 PM
Were we not told we’d come out of this window a stronger team than that one that went into it?…
Must have some signings lined up.
Allowing Melkersen to go out on loan just looks even more bizarre
McGruber
25-01-2023, 03:20 PM
£2 mil. £400k add ons
That's not enough.
Could sell for 2 mill in summer.
Even selling in summer for 1.5 - likely get another £500k in difference in final league placings with or without him.
If we sell Porteous and Nisbet and stick with LJ we could very well be relegated
mcfly
25-01-2023, 03:21 PM
There is going to be a meltdown. But I’m going to look at the bigger picture. There’s not much left to play for really.
Time to cash in on nisbet who’s never enjoyed it at hibs reslly.
Cash in on Porteous what we can get.
Get rid of garbage that are taking wages up.
Try promote a few kids in the door.
And let’s be honest Probaly need to muster a few more wins 5 maybe to stay clear of relegation.
It’s not going to be pretty and will be painful at first. But a total rebuild is needed. I have no interest in pointless loans from England or signing journeymen on deadline day.
Reset button is needed at this club and hopefully it will involve a new manager working with a DOF.
Sorry but there is relegation to avoid.
We are on a terrible run of form, we can’t keep a clean sheet and we are selling our main striker. Our other striker is out for the season.
If we lose next 2-3 games we are dragged into a battle and do you have faith in this manager to get these players ready to battle?
We need experience players in.
Yet again hibs on a rebuild… it’s a joke how many rebuilds have we had over last few years.
So disappointing the owner and CEO are silent - where is there vision for the club? Season tickets renewals will be a hard sell
LunasBoots
25-01-2023, 03:23 PM
Were we not told we’d come out of this window a stronger team than that one that went into it?…
Must have some signings lined up.
Allowing Melkersen to go out on loan just looks even more bizarre
Those quality signings must all be coming at once 🫣
Willis1875
25-01-2023, 03:23 PM
That's not enough.
Could sell for 2 mill in summer.
Even selling in summer for 1.5 - likely get another £500k in difference in final league placings with or without him.
If we sell Porteous and Nisbet and stick with LJ we could very well be relegated
We could very well get relegated with him given how things are going.
Wouldn’t even get 7 figures if he’s a championship player
Libby Hibby
25-01-2023, 03:26 PM
Were we not told we’d come out of this window a stronger team than that one that went into it?…
Must have some signings lined up.
Allowing Melkersen to go out on loan just looks even more bizarre
No it doesn’t as Melkersen is rubbish. Give the laddies a chance.
McGruber
25-01-2023, 03:27 PM
Sorry but there is relegation to avoid.
We are on a terrible run of form, we can’t keep a clean sheet and we are selling our main striker. Our other striker is out for the season.
If we lose next 2-3 games we are dragged into a battle and do you have faith in this manager to get these players ready to battle?
We need experience players in.
Yet again hibs on a rebuild… it’s a joke how many rebuilds have we had over last few years.
So disappointing the owner and CEO are silent - where is there vision for the club? Season tickets renewals will be a hard sell
Very much agree. Our results are terrible and we are in relegation form. Before the break, before Nisbet return we were bottom of the form league over 10 games. The 4 points since down to Nisbet. To lose our main striker and sole goal threat, our best defender with Bushiri out and with the aimless divisive Johnson in charge.. we'll be in a dogfight
Unseen work
25-01-2023, 03:29 PM
No it doesn’t as Melkersen is rubbish. Give the laddies a chance.
Melkersen is just a laddie himself. Only turned 20 in December.
Laidlaw only just turned 18 this month and O’Connor is 19 in a couple of months.
Melkersen had at least been out on loan and scoring goals when we signed him at 18/19.
Not bashing Laidlaw and O’Connor but they’ve not even kicked a ball for us yet and already I think the expectations on them are high
Hibernian Verse
25-01-2023, 03:29 PM
Relegation due to our poor form is unlikely, as our current form puts us 6th out of 12. Form is the last 6 league games generally and we've lost to the top 3 but beaten Livi & Motherwell and drawn with Utd.
If we can keep Nisbet we have a chance of Europe still.
Getting pumped by Hearts twice has sent the place into turmoil which is understandable...but the current form isn't relegation standard. There are 6 teams more likely based on "form" and they won't have played Hearts, Celtic & Rangers in the last 6 like we have.
Losing to Aberdeen will alter my position but it's not quite panic stations yet.
LunasBoots
25-01-2023, 03:30 PM
No it doesn’t as Melkersen is rubbish. Give the laddies a chance.
I don't think we'll see the laddies, apparently our best ones are being scouted by other clubs sadly
eastmainsmsh
25-01-2023, 03:32 PM
Connor Wickham if LJ still here prob
JimBHibees
25-01-2023, 03:34 PM
Actually says 2 mill inc addons which could be made up of mostly add ons - who knows ?
Not great position and also Dunfermline due a sizeable chunk ( 20% ? 30% ? )
Not great
If we are genuinely considering that we really need to just shut the door. Nowhere near enough imo for our only striker who can score
Gordy M
25-01-2023, 03:40 PM
Sorry but there is relegation to avoid.
We are on a terrible run of form, we can’t keep a clean sheet and we are selling our main striker. Our other striker is out for the season.
If we lose next 2-3 games we are dragged into a battle and do you have faith in this manager to get these players ready to battle?
We need experience players in.
Yet again hibs on a rebuild… it’s a joke how many rebuilds have we had over last few years.
So disappointing the owner and CEO are silent - where is there vision for the club? Season tickets renewals will be a hard sell
In the past 7 seasons, if you get to 38 points you wont be involved in relegation/play offs, and only 1 season was 37 involved. So history would suggest 11/12 points from next 16 games.
B.H.F.C
25-01-2023, 03:42 PM
I agree.
It's tough, because I appreciate they're our 2 best players but imo Hibs won't be able to move forward until Porteous and Nisbet leave the club.
The decline has been happening since they downed tools after taking the huff 2 years ago. Since then we've had inconsistent, temperamental football from the pair of them and somehow been made to feel like we should be grateful for it.
For the first time in a while we've got a fragmented dressing room and a club that seems to be totally disunited.
Losing the pair of them will be like ripping a plaster off. It's going to be painful and it's not going to come without it's problems but it will be the first step on the way to us actually moving in the right direction.
The recruitment team being trusted to replace them isn't an insignificant problem but it is a separate problem.
I can't wait to see the back of the pair of them.
I accept I'm probably alone in thinking that.
I agree to an extent. I think the issue is timing.
Looking at our squad and how it is likely to come out this window, it isn’t out of the question that we get dragged in to trouble. Nisbet would still score goals. I’m not sure who else does and I don’t trust us to sign a suitable replacement.
overdrive
25-01-2023, 03:44 PM
In the past 7 seasons, if you get to 38 points you wont be involved in relegation/play offs, and only 1 season was 37 involved. So history would suggest 11/12 points from next 16 games.
Reminds me of the Butcher season where we were always just a win away from getting top 6, a win away from not finishing in the play-off position, a draw away from not getting relegated...
I don't trust this side to get 11/12 points.
Unseen work
25-01-2023, 03:46 PM
In the past 7 seasons, if you get to 38 points you wont be involved in relegation/play offs, and only 1 season was 37 involved. So history would suggest 11/12 points from next 16 games.
10 defeats in the last 14 games or whatever it is makes that even more terrifying
Unseen work
25-01-2023, 03:47 PM
Connor Wickham if LJ still here prob
Heard something or guess work?
eastmainsmsh
25-01-2023, 03:52 PM
Heard something or guess work?
Guess as worked with LJ at Sunderland and available on free decent player
04Sauzee
25-01-2023, 03:57 PM
Guess as worked with LJ at Sunderland and available on free decent player
Looks like he's missed a fair few games due to injuries the last few seasons
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/connor-wickham/verletzungen/spieler/95435
With our record of injuries that would be a concern.
Stuart93
25-01-2023, 04:02 PM
Looks like he's missed a fair few games due to injuries the last few seasons
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/connor-wickham/verletzungen/spieler/95435
With our record of injuries that would be a concern.
That’s probably why we’ll sign him. We enjoy signing an injury prone player
LunasBoots
25-01-2023, 04:05 PM
Looks like he's missed a fair few games due to injuries the last few seasons
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/connor-wickham/verletzungen/spieler/95435
With our record of injuries that would be a concern.
Suffered serious injuries all his career, remember him looking a decent player at Palace in the Premier League but was plagued by bad injuries.
hibeg
25-01-2023, 04:07 PM
Wasn’t all that long ago you were saying the same about Nisbet.
Haha. You are correct, the bookmark quote. If I recall it was a free transfer as he ripped me apart for saying the guy was a footballer and worth 3m minimum.
The guy is clueless
aberhibsfc
25-01-2023, 04:07 PM
Those quality signings must all be coming at once 🫣
Melkerson should never have been sent out. Its like throwing the baby out instead of the bath water.
McGruber
25-01-2023, 04:08 PM
10 defeats in the last 14 games or whatever it is makes that even more terrifying
Yeah. With 3 of the 4 games we never lost Nisbet scored 6 goals.
We are not clear of relegation trouble, took 6 points out of 11 games pre Nisbet return and could be without Porteous and Rocky.
If we cash in on Nisbet and Porteous it could get ugly
Smartie
25-01-2023, 04:11 PM
Guess as worked with LJ at Sunderland and available on free decent player
Wickham left Sunderland in 2015, Johnson joined them in 2020.
If there's any link between the pair, it's not from there.
SteveHFC
25-01-2023, 04:14 PM
Yeah. With 3 of the 4 games we never lost Nisbet scored 6 goals.
We are not clear of relegation trouble, took 6 points out of 11 games pre Nisbet return and could be without Porteous and Rocky.
If we cash in on Nisbet and Porteous it could get ugly
If we let Nisbet go then the club have lost the plot. Surely they can’t expect to the fans to be happy.
green day
25-01-2023, 04:16 PM
If we let Nisbet go then the club have lost the plot. Surely they can’t expect to e fans to be happy.
You think that crosses their minds?
MWHIBBIES
25-01-2023, 04:19 PM
Wickham left Sunderland in 2015, Johnson joined them in 2020.
If there's any link between the pair, it's not from there.
:faf:
****ing belter
SteveHFC
25-01-2023, 04:25 PM
You think that crosses their minds?
Sadly not.
Gatecrasher
25-01-2023, 04:28 PM
I think we sell Nisbet, he's unlikely to sign an extension, his form blows hot and cold and the price is reasonable. There's plenty of time to find someone else.
Donegal Hibby
25-01-2023, 04:34 PM
I think we sell Nisbet, he's unlikely to sign an extension, his form blows hot and cold and the price is reasonable. There's plenty of time to find someone else.
Price is seriously below the players valuation imo and if we sell for anything under £3 million it's absolute disgrace.
Scotty Leither
25-01-2023, 04:35 PM
Melkersen is just a laddie himself. Only turned 20 in December.
Laidlaw only just turned 18 this month and O’Connor is 19 in a couple of months.
Melkersen had at least been out on loan and scoring goals when we signed him at 18/19.
Not bashing Laidlaw and O’Connor but they’ve not even kicked a ball for us yet and already I think the expectations on them are high
The supporters would cut the laddies a huge amount of slack; the inverse to those playing ahead of them who some look like they’re simply going through the motions, and are (rightly) copping our ire.
Need to get this DoF appointed now, and some players IN the door. If we don’t and we lose on Saturday that’ll be the tipping point for many, I fear.
No more BS statements from Kensell, and a bit more action wouldn’t go amiss.
McGruber
25-01-2023, 04:35 PM
I think we sell Nisbet, he's unlikely to sign an extension, his form blows hot and cold and the price is reasonable. There's plenty of time to find someone else.
There's 6 days!
Real Emerald
25-01-2023, 04:40 PM
If the owner and management had went out to deliberately make the club worse I doubt they’d have been able to do it much better than they have. What a shameful mess from what could have been. I’ve no faith that these people will ever get it right, no idea where we go from here.
Green_one
25-01-2023, 04:41 PM
I am anticipating sales, no real buys and a few ropey loans. Overall a drop in quality, which is hard to believe is possible :confused:
Aberdeen last game for two players.
Unseen work
25-01-2023, 04:49 PM
The supporters would cut the laddies a huge amount of slack; the inverse to those playing ahead of them who some look like they’re simply going through the motions, and are (rightly) copping our ire.
Need to get this DoF appointed now, and some players IN the door. If we don’t and we lose on Saturday that’ll be the tipping point for many, I fear.
No more BS statements from Kensell, and a bit more action wouldn’t go amiss.
Why not cut Melkersen slack?
Cut them slack to what expense?
If they were head and shoulders ahead of what’s been playing then fair enough, but as i said 17/18 year olds to get chucked in is a huge ask.
Granted I don’t see their games but I’ve seen some clips of goals and it’s so so far away from men’s football.
JimboHibs
25-01-2023, 04:59 PM
Relegation due to our poor form is unlikely, as our current form puts us 6th out of 12. Form is the last 6 league games generally and we've lost to the top 3 but beaten Livi & Motherwell and drawn with Utd.
If we can keep Nisbet we have a chance of Europe still.
Getting pumped by Hearts twice has sent the place into turmoil which is understandable...but the current form isn't relegation standard. There are 6 teams more likely based on "form" and they won't have played Hearts, Celtic & Rangers in the last 6 like we have.
Losing to Aberdeen will alter my position but it's not quite panic stations yet.
Never let the truth get in the way of a bit hysteria.
Scotty Leither
25-01-2023, 05:01 PM
Why not cut Melkersen slack?
Cut them slack to what expense?
If they were head and shoulders ahead of what’s been playing then fair enough, but as i said 17/18 year olds to get chucked in is a huge ask.
Granted I don’t see their games but I’ve seen some clips of goals and it’s so so far away from men’s football.
Megwa might’ve defended better than Cadden did for the second goal on Sunday, MacIntyre might’ve put better crosses in than Cabraja.
We’ll never know unless this divot of a manager bloods them, as he seems more interested in playing selection tombola with the dross that he’s got to prove a point to Kensell and co.
Winston Ingram
25-01-2023, 05:13 PM
Price is seriously below the players valuation imo and if we sell for anything under £3 million it's absolute disgrace.
Is it? He chucked his toys out the pram and his form collapsed after we knocked back the Birmingham bid. He was rotten in the year and half leading up to his injury.
He’s returned and had 1 good month.
hibeg
25-01-2023, 05:15 PM
Is it? He chucked his toys out the pram and his form collapsed after we knocked back the Birmingham bid. He was rotten in the year and half leading up to his injury.
He’s returned and had 1 good month.
You can’t see a real footballer if he is in front of your face, you are clueless !!
The supporters would cut the laddies a huge amount of slack; the inverse to those playing ahead of them who some look like they’re simply going through the motions, and are (rightly) copping our ire.
Need to get this DoF appointed now, and some players IN the door. If we don’t and we lose on Saturday that’ll be the tipping point for many, I fear.
No more BS statements from Kensell, and a bit more action wouldn’t go amiss.
Josh Campbell has been slaughtered on here there’s no slack being cut, melkerson, hauge, kenneh, Tavares all what a year older than laidlaw etc absolutely hammered after a handful of games it’s no surprise there not chucking more young guys in is it hardly a great environment
BegbieHSC
25-01-2023, 05:23 PM
We’re ****ed!
SteveHFC
25-01-2023, 05:24 PM
Josh Campbell has been slaughtered on here there’s no slack being cut, melkerson, hauge, kenneh, Tavares all what a year older than laidlaw etc absolutely hammered after a handful of games it’s no surprise there not chucking more young guys in is it hardly a great environment
Was one of Campbell’s biggest critics last season but he’s done alright this season.
Winston Ingram
25-01-2023, 05:27 PM
You can’t see a real footballer if he is in front of your face, you are clueless !!
Certainly couldn’t see one in his previous in the 15 months prior to his injury that’s for sure.
04Sauzee
25-01-2023, 05:33 PM
Killie accept bid for Oli Shaw from Barnsley, look like will sign shortly.
Hopefully we put in a sell on fee 😅
The Modfather
25-01-2023, 05:33 PM
Josh Campbell has been slaughtered on here there’s no slack being cut, melkerson, hauge, kenneh, Tavares all what a year older than laidlaw etc absolutely hammered after a handful of games it’s no surprise there not chucking more young guys in is it hardly a great environment
When will we next have a positive environment to blood them? Not this season. Probably not next season. It’s not ideal giving them game time in a struggling team, but if we’re going for third it’s not the time. If we’re in the championship it’s not the time. Bottom six last season, not the time as prize money important for finishing 7th. Etc etc. There is never a perfect time to play them. If it’s not when we’re dire and short in various positions, quality & quantity wise then we might as well scrap having an academy and save that money.
Look to get a few more points and get safe from the play off spot and then start integrating them slowly & sensibly. Might not see the real benefits until next season but it would at least get my interest, short of a relegation decider, back.
Jones28
25-01-2023, 05:38 PM
Killie accept bid for Oli Shaw from Barnsley, look like will sign shortly.
Hopefully we put in a sell on fee 😅
Good move for him, hopefully. I liked Shaw, he scored some important goals for us.
tonyrougier123
25-01-2023, 05:40 PM
Was one of Campbell’s biggest critics last season but he’s done alright this season.
One of the best players at the club Campbell.
Stuart93
25-01-2023, 05:43 PM
One of the best players at the club Campbell.
I reckon that says more about the rest of the players at club to be honest
Whilst Campbell has definitely improved he still isn’t of the quality we’re needing
Real Emerald
25-01-2023, 05:43 PM
If the owner and management had went out to deliberately make the club worse I doubt they’d have been able to do it much better than they have. What a shameful mess from what could have been. I’ve no faith that these people will ever get it right, no idea where we go from here.
Jones28
25-01-2023, 05:45 PM
I really look forward to Nisbet leaving and the Hibs website announcing we have concluded our business for the window.
It would be like the pilot of a crashed plane standing next to the burning wreckage and asking if you enjoyed the flight.
snedzuk
25-01-2023, 05:47 PM
When will we next have a positive environment to blood them?
Probably the next time the league cup group comes around!
churchie16
25-01-2023, 05:48 PM
One of the best players at the club Campbell.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
GordonHFC
25-01-2023, 05:50 PM
Campbell has little footballing ability but can run for hours. Just my opinion.
Gatecrasher
25-01-2023, 05:50 PM
Killie accept bid for Oli Shaw from Barnsley, look like will sign shortly.
Hopefully we put in a sell on fee 😅
I'm happy for him, I don't think we gave him enough time.
Donegal Hibby
25-01-2023, 05:52 PM
Is it? He chucked his toys out the pram and his form collapsed after we knocked back the Birmingham bid. He was rotten in the year and half leading up to his injury.
He’s returned and had 1 good month.
He's a very good striker who has been scoring goals , a player capped by his country , his goal scoring record is very good and £2 million is totally below his valuation, guaranteed that you wouldn't get a striker like that in England for £2 million in all and when you take out Dunfermline's cut. It's only working out at £1.4 , £.1.5 mill we are getting which is absolutely a joke for him . Sam Cosgrove moved to Birmingham for £2 Million and I rate Kevin Nisbet a much better player .
The other thing I'm totally p***ed off with is if this happens after Hibs saying they weren't selling him this window it really does show what a bunch of 'F'ing cowboys are running our club into the ground and I wouldn't trust anything they say again.
supermcginn
25-01-2023, 05:53 PM
One of the best players at the club Campbell.
I think even Josh would laugh at that.
S4uzee
25-01-2023, 05:53 PM
One of the best players at the club Campbell.
Incredible
Alfred E Newman
25-01-2023, 05:56 PM
If the owner and management had went out to deliberately make the club worse I doubt they’d have been able to do it much better than they have. What a shameful mess from what could have been. I’ve no faith that these people will ever get it right, no idea where we go from here.
Hopefully we unload more of the dross signed in the summer and promote 1 or 2 from the development team. If we don’t give them a chance now what’s the point of spending money on a youth team.
Winston Ingram
25-01-2023, 05:57 PM
Killie accept bid for Oli Shaw from Barnsley, look like will sign shortly.
Hopefully we put in a sell on fee 😅
We sold him to Ross County so if we did, we’d have got a payment from Killie
Donegal Hibby
25-01-2023, 05:57 PM
I'm happy for him, I don't think we gave him enough time.
I don't think it would matter how long we gave Shaw he was never going to make it at Hibs anyhow though I agree I'm happy for the guy and good luck to him.
Winston Ingram
25-01-2023, 06:06 PM
He's a very good striker who has been scoring goals , a player capped by his country , his goal scoring record is very good and £2 million is totally below his valuation, guaranteed that you wouldn't get a striker like that in England for £2 million in all and when you take out Dunfermline's cut. It's only working out at £1.4 , £.1.5 mill we are getting which is absolutely a joke for him . Sam Cosgrove moved to Birmingham for £2 Million and I rate Kevin Nisbet a much better player .
The other thing I'm totally p***ed off with is if this happens after Hibs saying they weren't selling him this window it really does show what a bunch of 'F'ing cowboys are running our club into the ground and I wouldn't trust anything they say again.
His goals record in the month he’s been back has been incredible. It wasn’t good before that. He’s already beaten his league total for last season in 1 month. In the previous 15 months that he was fit, he was averaging a goal every 4 league games. In the 13 league games before his injury he’d scored 1 and assisted 0.
Is it? He chucked his toys out the pram and his form collapsed after we knocked back the Birmingham bid. He was rotten in the year and half leading up to his injury.
He’s returned and had 1 good month.
You can’t see a real footballer if he is in front of your face, you are clueless !!
You didn’t read Winstons post which btw I’m in agreement with. He didn’t get his move and he went in the huff and it affected his form and game. In the interim period he got injured and missed loads. Now with 18 or so months on his contract remaining he’s came back leaner and making a massive effort knowing he’d be in shop window etc.
You cannot deny he was poor for long periods?
Jones28
25-01-2023, 06:09 PM
Campbell has little footballing ability but can run for hours. Just my opinion.
He has got football ability imo, he needs to make some better decisions.
blackpoolhibs
25-01-2023, 06:15 PM
Normally i'm distraught when we sell an assett like Nisbet, but i've never taken to him, his face always looks like it's tripping him, and i have always felt he thinks he's doing us a favour being at the club.
**** him, dont give a toss where he goes, the sooner the better.
Orchard_Hibs
25-01-2023, 06:23 PM
Normally i'm distraught when we sell an assett like Nisbet, but i've never taken to him, his face always looks like it's tripping him, and i have always felt he thinks he's doing us a favour being at the club.
**** him, dont give a toss where he goes, the sooner the better.
Completely agree, selling him is also the business mode we all want, buy for 400k sell for 2mil.
The timing is the only thing making people not keen on this.
Not In The Know
25-01-2023, 06:24 PM
Was one of Campbell’s biggest critics last season but he’s done alright this season.
Me too. This season he’s been our best player.
Clarence
25-01-2023, 06:24 PM
He may well become the best player at the club without improving his game.
He may end up top goal scorer without scoring any more goals.
Benny Brazil
25-01-2023, 06:25 PM
Normally i'm distraught when we sell an assett like Nisbet, but i've never taken to him, his face always looks like it's tripping him, and i have always felt he thinks he's doing us a favour being at the club.
**** him, dont give a toss where he goes, the sooner the better.
Am with you on this
Alfred E Newman
25-01-2023, 06:26 PM
Completely agree, selling him is also the business mode we all want, buy for 400k sell for 2mil.
The timing is the only thing making people not keen on this.
You forgot to add, buy a couple of replacements for £150k and give them 4 year deals.
Real Emerald
25-01-2023, 06:28 PM
Hopefully we unload more of the dross signed in the summer and promote 1 or 2 from the development team. If we don’t give them a chance now what’s the point of spending money on a youth team.
I’d love to see youngsters from the development squad introduced but they really should be introduced into a team playing well with experience to help them out. I fear they will be fed to the lions and could damage them forever. That’s how bad and unbalanced we’ve become. I don’t think there’s many options left though, sadly.
kentao
25-01-2023, 06:31 PM
When will we next have a positive environment to blood them? Not this season. Probably not next season. It’s not ideal giving them game time in a struggling team, but if we’re going for third it’s not the time. If we’re in the championship it’s not the time. Bottom six last season, not the time as prize money important for finishing 7th. Etc etc. There is never a perfect time to play them. If it’s not when we’re dire and short in various positions, quality & quantity wise then we might as well scrap having an academy and save that money.
Look to get a few more points and get safe from the play off spot and then start integrating them slowly & sensibly. Might not see the real benefits until next season but it would at least get my interest, short of a relegation decider, back.
If 4th place becomes unlikely and we are safe from relegation we should really try and copy what Hearts done during their points deduction / relegation season, Get a decent spine in the team and blood the youngsters into the starting 11.
The whole squad needs revamped but we will be working to a tight budget, we are suppose to have some really good promising youngster coming through but they really need to be tried at a higher level and hopefully they can kick on next season.
Hearts ran away with the championship because their youngsters had plenty of game time at a higher level. from the list below the youngsters they had were hardly superstars but managed to finish 21 points ahead of us and only a couple of that group went onto play at a higher level that SPL.
Hearts Youngsters 2014 / 15 were
GK
Jack Hamilton (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/jack-hamilton/) (transferred to Stenny)
Defence
Jordan McGhee (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/jordan-mcghee/) (transferred to Falkirk)
Kevin McHattie (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/kevin-mchattie/) (transferred to Killie )
Brad McKay (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/brad-mckay_2/) (transferred to St Johnstone)
Alim Öztürk (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/alim-oeztuerk/) (transferred to Boluspor )
Callum Paterson (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/callum-paterson/) (transferred to Cardiff)
Liam Smith (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/liam-smith/) (transferred to Ayr )
Midfield
Angus Beith (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/angus-beith/) (transferred to ICT )
Nathan Flanagan (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/nathan-flanagan/) (transferred to St Mirren )
Sean McKirdy (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/sean-mckirdy/) (transferred to Hamilton )
Sam Nicholson (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/sam-nicholson/) (transferred to Minnesota )
Scott Robinson (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/scott-robinson/) (transferred to Killie )
Strikers
Dale Carrick (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/dale-carrick/) (transferred to Killie )
Billy King (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/billy-king/) (transferred to Rangers )
James Keatings (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/james-keatings/) (transferred to Hibs )
Gary Oliver (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/gary-oliver/) (transferred to QOTS )
Jamie Walker (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/jamie-walker/) (transferred to Wigan )
Aaron Scott (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/aaron-scott_2/)
JammyDoidger
25-01-2023, 06:34 PM
It's time for the return of the prodigal son, mr James Scott.
Donegal Hibby
25-01-2023, 06:36 PM
His goals record in the month he’s been back has been incredible. It wasn’t good before that. He’s already beaten his league total for last season in 1 month. In the previous 15 months that he was fit, he was averaging a goal every 4 league games. In the 13 league games before his injury he’d scored 1 and assisted 0.
He has played 238 games and scored 102 goals which is a excellent record, just watching him you can see he's a quality player and well worth more than we have been offered. Sam Cosgrove has 40 less goals scored in 214 games yet he's of similar value with Nisbet.
Someone mentioned Ryan Hardie as a replacement,his valuation is £600,000 so it would cost us at least half the money we get to sign him and for what ? A much poorer striker than Nisbet. We already have a English league 1 striker who can't score ! We seem to be running from one problem right into another at the moment and it's seriously worrying .
HibsGW
25-01-2023, 06:39 PM
Completely agree, selling him is also the business mode we all want, buy for 400k sell for 2mil.
The timing is the only thing making people not keen on this.
Saying the timing is the only thing makes it sound like it’s not a big deal, we’re absolutely awful and he’s our most important player at the moment. Of course people aren’t keen on this, if anyone had been told before this transfer window that we’d come out of it significantly weaker (losing Porto and Nisbet) than we entered it people would have been going crazy.
leith lynx
25-01-2023, 06:40 PM
If 4th place becomes unlikely and we are safe from relegation we should really try and copy what Hearts done during their points deduction / relegation season, Get a decent spine in the team and blood the youngsters into the starting 11.
The whole squad needs revamped but we will be working to a tight budget, we are suppose to have some really good promising youngster coming through but they really need to be tried at a higher level and hopefully they can kick on next season.
Hearts ran away with the championship because their youngsters had plenty of game time at a higher level. from the list below the youngsters they had were hardly superstars but managed to finish 21 points ahead of us and only a couple of that group went onto play at a higher level that SPL.
Hearts Youngsters 2014 / 15 were
GK
Jack Hamilton (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/jack-hamilton/) (transferred to Stenny)
Defence
Jordan McGhee (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/jordan-mcghee/) (transferred to Falkirk)
Kevin McHattie (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/kevin-mchattie/) (transferred to Killie )
Brad McKay (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/brad-mckay_2/) (transferred to St Johnstone)
Alim Öztürk (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/alim-oeztuerk/) (transferred to Boluspor )
Callum Paterson (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/callum-paterson/) (transferred to Cardiff)
Liam Smith (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/liam-smith/) (transferred to Ayr )
Midfield
Angus Beith (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/angus-beith/) (transferred to ICT )
Nathan Flanagan (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/nathan-flanagan/) (transferred to St Mirren )
Sean McKirdy (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/sean-mckirdy/) (transferred to Hamilton )
Sam Nicholson (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/sam-nicholson/) (transferred to Minnesota )
Scott Robinson (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/scott-robinson/) (transferred to Killie )
Strikers
Dale Carrick (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/dale-carrick/) (transferred to Killie )
Billy King (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/billy-king/) (transferred to Rangers )
James Keatings (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/james-keatings/) (transferred to Hibs )
Gary Oliver (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/gary-oliver/) (transferred to QOTS )
Jamie Walker (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/jamie-walker/) (transferred to Wigan )
Aaron Scott (https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/aaron-scott_2/)
Lot of Tynecastle knowledge there...
Hibee Daft
25-01-2023, 06:43 PM
Lot of Tynecastle knowledge there...
One thing Hearts cant compete with is our record of bringing through talented players that list is as tinpot as it gets.
Tyler Durden
25-01-2023, 06:44 PM
He has played 238 games and scored 102 goals which is a excellent record, just watching him you can see he's a quality player and well worth more than we have been offered. Sam Cosgrove has 40 less goals scored in 214 games yet he's of similar value with Nisbet.
Someone mentioned Ryan Hardie as a replacement,his valuation is £600,000 so it would cost us at least half the money we get to sign him and for what ? A much poorer striker than Nisbet. We already have a English league 1 striker who can't score ! We seem to be running from one problem right into another at the moment and it's seriously worrying .
Firstly your figures are all over the place and we don’t even know the fee that may be agreed.
Secondly Nisbet has maybe a third of his goals at a decent level and he’s 26. Nothing special at all.
Finally he’s a disruptive player who doesn’t want to be here.
CapitalGreen
25-01-2023, 06:46 PM
He has played 238 games and scored 102 goals which is a excellent record, just watching him you can see he's a quality player and well worth more than we have been offered. Sam Cosgrove has 40 less goals scored in 214 games yet he's of similar value with Nisbet.
Someone mentioned Ryan Hardie as a replacement,his valuation is £600,000 so it would cost us at least half the money we get to sign him and for what ? A much poorer striker than Nisbet. We already have a English league 1 striker who can't score ! We seem to be running from one problem right into another at the moment and it's seriously worrying .
Transfers fees aren’t determined by the value listed on Transfermarkt.co.uk
McKirdy came from League 2.
Hardie’s contract expires in the summer but I’d imagine he’ll be holding off to see if Plymouth get promoted before deciding his future.
04Sauzee
25-01-2023, 06:47 PM
He has played 238 games and scored 102 goals which is a excellent record, just watching him you can see he's a quality player and well worth more than we have been offered. Sam Cosgrove has 40 less goals scored in 214 games yet he's of similar value with Nisbet.
Someone mentioned Ryan Hardie as a replacement,his valuation is £600,000 so it would cost us at least half the money we get to sign him and for what ? A much poorer striker than Nisbet. We already have a English league 1 striker who can't score ! We seem to be running from one problem right into another at the moment and it's seriously worrying .
I think Hardie is out of contract in the summer, similar situation to Porteous.
Normally i'm distraught when we sell an assett like Nisbet, but i've never taken to him, his face always looks like it's tripping him, and i have always felt he thinks he's doing us a favour being at the club.
**** him, dont give a toss where he goes, the sooner the better.
His career after Partick was of jumping ship after a season for more money and a bigger league, he got itchy feet after 6 months and just after his dad passed last year, take the money and reinvest, as you say he never looked happy.
kentao
25-01-2023, 07:01 PM
Lot of Tynecastle knowledge there...
Not that great had to look most of it up but i did know they started that season with a lot of youth and blew us away.
https://www.worldfootball.net/teams/heart-of-midlothian/2015/2/
Incredible
Okay I'll bite. Please name a midfielder/forward at the club who has performed better than Campbell this season
Unseen work
25-01-2023, 07:05 PM
He has played 238 games and scored 102 goals which is a excellent record, just watching him you can see he's a quality player and well worth more than we have been offered. Sam Cosgrove has 40 less goals scored in 214 games yet he's of similar value with Nisbet.
Someone mentioned Ryan Hardie as a replacement,his valuation is £600,000 so it would cost us at least half the money we get to sign him and for what ? A much poorer striker than Nisbet. We already have an English league 1 striker who can't score ! We seem to be running from one problem right into another at the moment and it's seriously worrying .
That was myself and he’s out of contract in the summer.
For context with transfer market valuations look at the Hibs players
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/hibernian-fc/startseite/verein/903
I’d imagine we’d bite the hand off anyone who bid some of those prices for our players
#2 Double Tap
25-01-2023, 07:11 PM
Okay I'll bite. Please name a midfielder/forward at the club who has performed better than Campbell this season
Ryan Porteous :)))))
cameronw-hfc
25-01-2023, 07:13 PM
Ryan Porteous :)))))
Absolutely no chance. If he wasn't an academy product people would be honest about him and admit he's not been at it this year. Good game for Scotland and a few good games after that, but he's been nowhere near as good as he should be defensively this season.
Winston Ingram
25-01-2023, 07:13 PM
He has played 238 games and scored 102 goals which is a excellent record, just watching him you can see he's a quality player and well worth more than we have been offered. Sam Cosgrove has 40 less goals scored in 214 games yet he's of similar value with Nisbet.
Someone mentioned Ryan Hardie as a replacement,his valuation is £600,000 so it would cost us at least half the money we get to sign him and for what ? A much poorer striker than Nisbet. We already have a English league 1 striker who can't score ! We seem to be running from one problem right into another at the moment and it's seriously worrying .
Sam Cosgrove was of similar value because 1 blind scout thought he was worth £2m. He’s been awful down there and sent put on loan by Birmingham to league 1 after 6 months where he was also pish.
Nisbet, after an initial good 4 months, from Jan 21 to his injury he scored 9 league goals in 42 league games which is not going to persuade anyone to part with a 7 figure sum. He has since come back and had 1 outstanding month.
The sad thing about Cosgrove’s failure is that is likely going to discourage suitors from buying players from the SPFL.
loanheadhibby
25-01-2023, 07:14 PM
Okay I'll bite. Please name a midfielder/forward at the club who has performed better than Campbell this season
The rest of our midfield is not really a great barometer is it? They’re all sub standard
#2 Double Tap
25-01-2023, 07:17 PM
Absolutely no chance. If he wasn't an academy product people would be honest about him and admit he's not been at it this year. Good game for Scotland and a few good games after that, but he's been nowhere near as good as he should be defensively this season.
I’m assuming u did not notice the laughing smiley face.
#2 Double Tap
25-01-2023, 07:19 PM
The rest of our midfield is not really a great barometer is it? They’re all sub standard
Ain’t that the point tho. He said Campbell been the best midfielder this year.
The Captain....
25-01-2023, 07:20 PM
Normally i'm distraught when we sell an assett like Nisbet, but i've never taken to him, his face always looks like it's tripping him, and i have always felt he thinks he's doing us a favour being at the club.
**** him, dont give a toss where he goes, the sooner the better.I'm the same, on his day he is a good club striker, I've never thought he was international class.
I've just lost any real interest in Hibs atm, couldn't be arsed if we sell him or not.
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Donegal Hibby
25-01-2023, 07:35 PM
Firstly your figures are all over the place and we don’t even know the fee that may be agreed.
Secondly Nisbet has maybe a third of his goals at a decent level and he’s 26. Nothing special at all.
Finally he’s a disruptive player who doesn’t want to be here.
What figures are all over the place genuine question? We don't know the fee but it's been quoted at £2.4 mill max and going by the first bid I doubt we are looking much more or anywhere near what we should be getting for him .Since he's came back from injury he's been very good scoring quite a few goals ,and his workrates been excellent and hasn't been anyway disruptive . If only a third of his goals have came from a decent level that must also put Shankland in the nothing special category as well then even though some on here are still on about him !
Whatever anybody wants to say about Nisbet he is without a shadow of doubt our best striker in fact he's the only one we have that's been scoring as well . I'm absolutely p***ed off specially after the club said they aren't selling him this window and if the bid is accepted just shows we are being run by a shower deceitful cowboy's that are making one mess after another.
Tyler Durden
25-01-2023, 07:40 PM
What figures are all over the place genuine question? We don't know the fee but it's been quoted at £2.4 mill max and going by the first bid I doubt we are looking much more or anywhere near what we should be getting for him .Since he's came back from injury he's been very good scoring quite a few goals ,and his workrates been excellent and hasn't been anyway disruptive . If only a third of his goals have came from a decent level that must also put Shankland in the nothing special category as well then even though some on here are still on about him !
Whatever anybody wants to say about Nisbet he is without a shadow of doubt our best striker in fact he's the only one we have that's been scoring as well . I'm absolutely p***ed off specially after the club said they aren't selling him this window and if the bid is accepted just shows we are being run by a shower deceitful cowboy's that are making one mess after another.
You’ve suggested Hibs might only take £1.4m from a sale.
Let’s say Hibs paid £400k for him, which I don’t think we did. And we sell him for £2.4m. Let’s say Dunfermline get 20%…. That is of any profit Hibs make.
So 20% of £2m is £400k. Meaning Hibs bank £2m.
Obviously he’s not been disruptive this month. Let’s see what happens if we reject this bid.
When did Hibs say we would not sell Nisbet this window?
loanheadhibby
25-01-2023, 07:40 PM
Ain’t that the point tho. He said Campbell been the best midfielder this year.
Or the least rubbish. Just because folk have rated him out better midfielder this season, does not in itself mean Campbell is good. He’s just less crap.
04Sauzee
25-01-2023, 07:43 PM
You’ve suggested Hibs might only take £1.4m from a sale.
Let’s say Hibs paid £400k for him, which I don’t think we did. And we sell him for £2.4m. Let’s say Dunfermline get 20%…. That is of any profit Hibs make.
So 20% of £2m is £400k. Meaning Hibs bank £2m.
Obviously he’s not been disruptive this month. Let’s see what happens if we reject this bid.
When did Hibs say we would not sell Nisbet this window?
It was just paper talk but a few media outlets reported it.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/kevin-nisbet-offlimits-celtic-transfer-28980101
tonyrougier123
25-01-2023, 07:47 PM
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’m not joking!
tonyrougier123
25-01-2023, 07:49 PM
Campbell has little footballing ability but can run for hours. Just my opinion.
I disagree entirely,in fact I call this out as nonsense!
Heisenberg
25-01-2023, 07:50 PM
He’s away
https://twitter.com/mcgowan_stephen/status/1618349169944715264?s=46&t=zo_HkeylOSntMgqP4YNg3w
GordonHFC
25-01-2023, 07:51 PM
I disagree entirely,in fact I call this out as nonsense!
You do that. As I said it's my opinion.
#2 Double Tap
25-01-2023, 07:52 PM
Or the least rubbish. Just because folk have rated him out better midfielder this season, does not in itself mean Campbell is good. He’s just less crap.
Nae body said that. They said he has been the best out the bunch.
leith lynx
25-01-2023, 07:53 PM
He’s away
https://twitter.com/mcgowan_stephen/status/1618349169944715264?s=46&t=zo_HkeylOSntMgqP4YNg3w
Well Ron or Ben, explain please?
Big_Franck
25-01-2023, 07:53 PM
He’s away
https://twitter.com/mcgowan_stephen/status/1618349169944715264?s=46&t=zo_HkeylOSntMgqP4YNg3w
The price on us to get relegated is going to collapse in the next day or two.
Heisenberg
25-01-2023, 07:54 PM
Well Ron or Ben, explain please?
No chance we hear from Ron. He clearly can’t be bothered any longer.
SteveHFC
25-01-2023, 07:55 PM
He’s away
https://twitter.com/mcgowan_stephen/status/1618349169944715264?s=46&t=zo_HkeylOSntMgqP4YNg3w
Hope the club are prepared for the backlash incoming.
Well Ron or Ben, explain please?
He's wanting away, won't sign an extension and if he gets injured again, his price plummets, the common sense thing to do is take the dosh and reinvest.
Mr Grieves
25-01-2023, 07:56 PM
He’s away
https://twitter.com/mcgowan_stephen/status/1618349169944715264?s=46&t=zo_HkeylOSntMgqP4YNg3w
We're ****ing ****ed
tonyrougier123
25-01-2023, 07:56 PM
You do that. As I said it's my opinion.
Good for you 👍🏻Still nonsense.
Bridge hibs
25-01-2023, 07:56 PM
Hope the club are prepared for the backlash incoming.
Backlash from who ?
Billy Whizz
25-01-2023, 07:56 PM
No chance we hear from Ron. He clearly can’t be bothered any longer.
Someone said to me on Sunday, he’s in the huff, due to his son getting bad publicity on social media. Make of that what you want!
Ron has never handled criticism well, anyone who disappears in times of crisis, is not for me
SteveHFC
25-01-2023, 07:56 PM
Backlash from who ?
Selling your top striker this late in the transfer window.
Iain G
25-01-2023, 07:57 PM
Selling your top striker this late in the transfer window.
Depends how they replace him and use the money to strengthen?
Heisenberg
25-01-2023, 07:58 PM
Someone said to me on Sunday, he’s in the huff, due to his son getting bad publicity on social media. Make of that what you want!
Ron has never handled criticism well, anyone who disappears in times of crisis, is not for me
He’s brought all of that on himself. Don’t employ your son into a key role that he’s totally unqualified for if you don’t want some backlash when it inevitably goes tits up.
Seems to me that Ben K has been left to deal with it all.
Gatecrasher
25-01-2023, 07:59 PM
Selling your top striker this late in the transfer window.
Hibs fans dont backlash, we just kind of moan on the Internet for a while.
green day
25-01-2023, 07:59 PM
I await the recall of Christian Doidge 😁
SteveHFC
25-01-2023, 08:00 PM
Depends how they replace him and use the money to strengthen?
Don't trust the recruitment to strengthen.
McGruber
25-01-2023, 08:00 PM
Genuinely could go down this year. How much would that cost the club. £2 million for your top striker and only goalscorer.
We are totally ****ed
Bridge hibs
25-01-2023, 08:00 PM
Selling your top striker this late in the transfer window.
Yeah but backlash from who, a few teeth gnashers on hibs.net, a few muppets shouting and posting angry words on twitter, a few threats from faceless nobodys on facebook ?
SteveHFC
25-01-2023, 08:00 PM
Hibs fans dont backlash, we just kind of moan on the Internet for a while.
My apologies. :greengrin
leith lynx
25-01-2023, 08:00 PM
Someone said to me on Sunday, he’s in the huff, due to his son getting bad publicity on social media. Make of that what you want!
Ron has never handled criticism well, anyone who disappears in times of crisis, is not for me
🇺🇸❄️
I await the recall of Christian Doidge 😁
****ing whoop de whoop 😩
Donegal Hibby
25-01-2023, 08:01 PM
You’ve suggested Hibs might only take £1.4m from a sale.
Let’s say Hibs paid £400k for him, which I don’t think we did. And we sell him for £2.4m. Let’s say Dunfermline get 20%…. That is of any profit Hibs make.
So 20% of £2m is £400k. Meaning Hibs bank £2m.
Obviously he’s not been disruptive this month. Let’s see what happens if we reject this bid.
When did Hibs say we would not sell Nisbet this window?
Its rumoured that it's £2 million up front and the £400,000 is add ons , I had heard that Dunfermline were to get 25% or 30% which would work out at £1.4 , £1.5 mill for Hibs . The £400,000 add ons we probably won't get right away . I read it in different paper's about Hibs not going to sell Nisbet so that's probably not accurate though selling our best striker with the season we been having is a complete lack of ambition from the club and as I said it's going from one disaster to the next and I'm extremely fed with the whole situation
McGruber
25-01-2023, 08:01 PM
Depends how they replace him and use the money to strengthen?
They have 6 days, not holding out much hope
Trinity Hibee
25-01-2023, 08:01 PM
They’ll soon find out when nobody is turning up to games which will be happening imminently now we have officially written off our season
Stuart93
25-01-2023, 08:02 PM
Wonder how the club are going to spin this one.
****ing joke. Trim the squad down by selling off your two best players with 6 days left of the window.
The Harp Awakes
25-01-2023, 08:02 PM
He’s away
https://twitter.com/mcgowan_stephen/status/1618349169944715264?s=46&t=zo_HkeylOSntMgqP4YNg3w
Absolutely mental from Hibs. Total insanity. Relegation coming due to total imbeciles running our club.
scoopyboy
25-01-2023, 08:02 PM
Someone said to me on Sunday, he’s in the huff, due to his son getting bad publicity on social media. Make of that what you want!
Ron has never handled criticism well, anyone who disappears in times of crisis, is not for me
Or it could be the man is very ill Billy.
flash
25-01-2023, 08:03 PM
Absolutely mental from Hibs. Total insanity. Relegation coming due to total imbeciles running our club.
We won't get relegated.
Stuart93
25-01-2023, 08:03 PM
Or it could be the man is very ill Billy.
Is their no succession plan to that though?
It’s sad to hear Ron is very ill but how does that relate to us selling Nisbet and Porteous?
04Sauzee
25-01-2023, 08:04 PM
Or it could be the man is very ill Billy.
I hope he's not ill Scoop.
Paulie Walnuts
25-01-2023, 08:04 PM
And folk wonder why people are losing interest in Hibs.
That is an absolute shambles but no less than I’d expect under that clown Ron Gordon and his laddie.
SteveHFC
25-01-2023, 08:05 PM
We won't get relegated.
Think we will be fighting to avoid the play-offs.
bingo70
25-01-2023, 08:05 PM
I think it’s the right decision to sell him and I don’t think we could have got any more money than this for him.
I’d say good luck to him but I agree with Blackpools post earlier, I think he’s a bit of a prick so I’m pretty neutral about the whole thing. No ill feeling towards the guy and I look forward to seeing who we replace him with (no laughing at the back)
blackpoolhibs
25-01-2023, 08:06 PM
We won't get relegated.
When have i heard that before?
Vault Boy
25-01-2023, 08:06 PM
Someone said to me on Sunday, he’s in the huff, due to his son getting bad publicity on social media. Make of that what you want!
Ron has never handled criticism well, anyone who disappears in times of crisis, is not for me
The Gordons read the forums and social media chatter, that’s for sure. I think you’re right, they don’t handle it well and now we’ve got reactive **** like this disgrace of a window and total silence from the owner. It’s pathetic.
Should mention I certainly hope Ron isn’t ill, but I’ve only ever seen this claim hinted at and never fully suggested or substantiated.
Gatecrasher
25-01-2023, 08:06 PM
I think it’s the right decision to sell him and I don’t think we could have got any more money than this for him.
I’d say good luck to him but I agree with Blackpools post earlier, I think he’s a bit of a prick so I’m pretty neutral about the whole thing. No ill feeling towards the guy and I look forward to seeing who we replace him with (no laughing at the back)
:agree:
Mikey_1875
25-01-2023, 08:06 PM
No guarantees he will pass the medical after a long injury.
If we could reinvest it in 2/3 quality players I could warm to the idea but with only 6 days left and our track record on recruitment being pretty awful I don’t hold much hope.
Heisenberg
25-01-2023, 08:07 PM
Or it could be the man is very ill Billy.
If that is the case then it’s obviously sad news for him and his family. Not a clue where that leaves us as a club should the worst happen.
Leith Green
25-01-2023, 08:10 PM
Hopefully selling nisbet and moving on porteous is part of a plan to reinvest the transfer fees and wages on bringing in 2 or 3 experienced players ready to go straight into the team. We need to start with the spine if the side , centre half , centre mid , centre forward
Leith Green
25-01-2023, 08:10 PM
If that’s not the case , then we are well and truly ****ed
Its rumoured that it's £2 million up front and the £400,000 is add ons , I had heard that Dunfermline were to get 25% or 30% which would work out at £1.4 , £1.5 mill for Hibs . The £400,000 add ons we probably won't get right away . I read it in different paper's about Hibs not going to sell Nisbet so that's probably not accurate though selling our best striker with the season we been having is a complete lack of ambition from the club and as I said it's going from one disaster to the next and I'm extremely fed with the whole situation
He wants to go so it's best well sell him and get a reasonable amount of money while we can. He won't be worth nearly as much in the summer and there's every chance his form will dip if he's unhappy at having to stay. I'd much rather we use the money to bring in someone who wants to be at Hibs.
McGruber
25-01-2023, 08:12 PM
We won't get relegated.
Not sure about that. 2 wins in 11 pre Nisbet return, 6 points out 33. Before Nisbet's goals we relied on Boyle. Our reliable goalscorers are Boyle and Nisbet. There's nobody else scoring goals. Our best defenders are Porteous and Rocky. Taking them all out, Magennis perma injured and Kurkharevych not likely out.
Not even touching on the dressingroom splits and clueless manager
I would say being dragged into the playoffs is a distinct possibility.
Unseen work
25-01-2023, 08:13 PM
Wonder what the upfront fee is, what the add ons are and how likely we are of getting them. Also how much Dunfermline are due.
We already had to add quality to the squad, now with him and Porteous leaving we need at least 4 signings of pure quality to come in and hit the ground running.
Unfortunately I can’t see it.
A couple of uninspiring players and some loans to keep us ticking over us what I expect.
End the season awful and if we’re lucky miss the play off position and finish 9th.
“We’ll come out of this window stronger than when we went in”
“We’re looking for quality.”
It’s looking like
In
James Jeggo
Out
Kevin Nisbet
Ryan Porteous
Demi Mitchell
Nohan Kenneh
Momodou Bojang
Kevin Dabrowski
Jack Brydon
Steven Bradley
Elias Melkersen
What a window.
Nicho87
25-01-2023, 08:14 PM
Can’t wait for the deadline day singings more under 21s, absolute certain of it.
Joke of a club just now.
Real Emerald
25-01-2023, 08:14 PM
If that is the case then it’s obviously sad news for him and his family. Not a clue where that leaves us as a club should the worst happen.
Agree, seems a strange thing to say out of the blue. It could explain a lot but hopefully it’s not true for the sake of him and his family. All football nonsense aside.
MrRobot
25-01-2023, 08:14 PM
Money has to go into finding a ready made replacement this window.
Hopefully the club have been aware of interest and making moves in the background. i’d also be tabling a bid to keep Myko permanently.
Hard one for Hibs here as they will know he isn’t going to sign a new contract and we have seen how he performed after a transfer was rejected before.
This really could see us ****ed though.
scoopyboy
25-01-2023, 08:15 PM
Is their no succession plan to that though?
It’s sad to hear Ron is very ill but how does that relate to us selling Nisbet and Porteous?
I was replying to Billy who said he had heard that Ron Gordon was in the huff because his son is getting stick on social media.
No idea about succession plan, probably the same as Tom Farmers ie sell it.
I take it he has approved the deals for the two players.
From what I've been told I would approve the sale of the two players if the offers were suitable.
Unseen work
25-01-2023, 08:16 PM
You know what, see if they got their finger out and recruited a DoF like Park or whoever earlier and they had the whole of January it would be easier to take and understandable to a certain degree.
Well now have a decent amount of money, zero quality in the starting eleven and no DoF to oversee it.
scoopyboy
25-01-2023, 08:17 PM
Wonder what the upfront fee is, what the add ons are and how likely we are of getting them. Also how much Dunfermline are due.
We already had to add quality to the squad, now with him and Porteous leaving we need at least 4 signings of pure quality to come in and hit the ground running.
Unfortunately I can’t see it.
A couple of uninspiring players and some loans to keep us ticking over us what I expect.
End the season awful and if we’re lucky miss the play off position and finish 9th.
“We’ll come out of this window stronger than when we went in”
“We’re looking for quality.”
It’s looking like
In
James Jeggo
Out
Kevin Nisbet
Ryan Porteous
Demi Mitchell
Nohan Kenneh
Momodou Bojang
Kevin Dabrowski
Jack Brydon
Steven Bradley
Elias Melkersen
What a window.
Dunfermline get 30% of the fee.
Hibs4185
25-01-2023, 08:19 PM
If that is the case then it’s obviously sad news for him and his family. Not a clue where that leaves us as a club should the worst happen.
His son will inherit us and I’m sure he’ll have our best interests at heart given his standing with the fans
MWHIBBIES
25-01-2023, 08:19 PM
When have i heard that before?
4 of the last 5 seasons, and it was true each one?
Leith Green
25-01-2023, 08:20 PM
Wonder what the upfront fee is, what the add ons are and how likely we are of getting them. Also how much Dunfermline are due.
We already had to add quality to the squad, now with him and Porteous leaving we need at least 4 signings of pure quality to come in and hit the ground running.
Unfortunately I can’t see it.
A couple of uninspiring players and some loans to keep us ticking over us what I expect.
End the season awful and if we’re lucky miss the play off position and finish 9th.
“We’ll come out of this window stronger than when we went in”
“We’re looking for quality.”
It’s looking like
In
James Jeggo
Out
Kevin Nisbet
Ryan Porteous
Demi Mitchell
Nohan Kenneh
Momodou Bojang
Kevin Dabrowski
Jack Brydon
Steven Bradley
Elias Melkersen
What a window.
Its criminal how quickly we have gone from being a team/squad needing a quality addition here or there to really cement being the 3rd best team in the league. Now we are a squad with a couple of good players and the rest nowhere near good enough.. the past 2 years have been an absolute disgrace, people running the show should be embarrassed and ashamed , thats if they even give a toss
Heisenberg
25-01-2023, 08:20 PM
Different sell on percentages flying around
https://twitter.com/mcgowan_stephen/status/1618356764554170370?s=46&t=A81u5amQwt-I1SjDeZXwkw
Hibby Kay-Yay
25-01-2023, 08:20 PM
Now we can get Bojang back as a perm player on £13k per week and he can get a three bedroom house somewhere in Tranent.
Donegal Hibby
25-01-2023, 08:21 PM
Can’t wait for the deadline day singings more under 21s, absolute certain of it.
Joke of a club just now.
Probably sign some young guy from the Congo now . Clubs getting run like Everton .
bingo70
25-01-2023, 08:25 PM
Probably sign some young guy from the Congo now .
Because we signed one player from Africa?
HendoDelivered
25-01-2023, 08:27 PM
I’m petrified who these clowns will have lined up to replace Nisbet.
cameronw-hfc
25-01-2023, 08:28 PM
Because we signed one player from Africa?
Not even joking, I sincerely hope we aren't scared away from the African market because of Bojang. Tons of cracking players coming through over there, more so than ever before.
SMAXXA
25-01-2023, 08:30 PM
Think folk need to calm it down to a panic with the relegation chat and writing the season off until the end of the window to see who we have actually recruited. Porto and Nizzy are 2 of a few players that want to move on so we have to get the best deal possible for them. We have had better players before those 2 many a time so as disappointing as it is to lose good players they come and go and will be replaced. Wether that’s this window or not is the million dollar question. If these 2 are to fund a bigger overhaul I think it might be good business in the long run.
MrRobot
25-01-2023, 08:31 PM
Think folk need to calm it down to a panic with the relegation chat and writing the season off until the end of the window to see who we have actually recruited. Porto and Nizzy are 2 of a few players that want to move on so we have to get the best deal possible for them. We have had better players before those 2 many a time so as disappointing as it is to lose good players they come and go and will be replaced. Wether that’s this window or not is the million dollar question. I’d these 2 are to find a bigger overhaul I think it might be good business in the long run.
Who else is looking to move on do you know, JDH and Cadden?
04Sauzee
25-01-2023, 08:32 PM
Think folk need to calm it down to a panic with the relegation chat and writing the season off until the end of the window to see who we have actually recruited. Porto and Nizzy are 2 of a few players that want to move on so we have to get the best deal possible for them. We have had better players before those 2 many a time so as disappointing as it is to lose good players they come and go and will be replaced. Wether that’s this window or not is the million dollar question. I’d these 2 are to find a bigger overhaul I think it might be good business in the long run.
I think it's the fact we have a big game at the weekend, Window closes on Tuesday and we really need 3 or 4 quality players through the door if we lose Porteous and Nisbet. It's a huge task to get the quality required with so little time remaining.
Definitely going to be a rollercoaster of a week.
Orchard_Hibs
25-01-2023, 08:32 PM
I’d use the money to get myko signed perm
bingo70
25-01-2023, 08:33 PM
Think folk need to calm it down to a panic with the relegation chat and writing the season off until the end of the window to see who we have actually recruited. Porto and Nizzy are 2 of a few players that want to move on so we have to get the best deal possible for them. We have had better players before those 2 many a time so as disappointing as it is to lose good players they come and go and will be replaced. Wether that’s this window or not is the million dollar question. I’d these 2 are to find a bigger overhaul I think it might be good business in the long run.
Spot on.
Having two senior players who don’t want to be here and are basically just waiting to move can’t be good for the atmosphere around the place. I know whenever I’ve worked with people who don’t want to be there it gets draining after a while.
We’ve waited as late as we can and we’re getting as much money as we can.
Let’s get people in who want to be here.
Donegal Hibby
25-01-2023, 08:33 PM
Because we signed one player from Africa?
Our recruitment has been a joke even with a full window and I wouldn't trust it to add any quality never mind in 6 days . Africa , Portugal ,Norway all we've been trying to do is sign a rake of young players hoping we unearth a gem , wouldn't surprise me if we do it again.
B.H.F.C
25-01-2023, 08:34 PM
Think folk need to calm it down to a panic with the relegation chat and writing the season off until the end of the window to see who we have actually recruited. Porto and Nizzy are 2 of a few players that want to move on so we have to get the best deal possible for them. We have had better players before those 2 many a time so as disappointing as it is to lose good players they come and go and will be replaced. Wether that’s this window or not is the million dollar question. I’d these 2 are to find a bigger overhaul I think it might be good business in the long run.
If they aren’t replaced in this window then getting dragged in to bother is far from unthinkable. There is hardly any quality in the squad beyond them.
If it was the summer and we were losing them I wouldn’t be overly concerned if it were to fund an overhaul. But the overhaul isn't happening just now.
Trinity Hibee
25-01-2023, 08:35 PM
Spot on.
Having two senior players who don’t want to be here and are basically just waiting to move can’t be good for the atmosphere around the place. I know whenever I’ve worked with people who don’t want to be there it gets draining after a while.
We’ve waited as late as we can and we’re getting as much money as we can.
Let’s get people in who want to be here.
You do realise we are losing our goal threat here. Boyle is out and nisbet away. We don’t look like scoring most of the time with them in the team so god knows what the next few months will look like. Prob the same as the second half of last season. Hope for 0-0 draws. A club like Hibs that is completely unacceptable for it to happen once never mind twice.
Haymaker
25-01-2023, 08:37 PM
Sell him, take the money, sign Leigh. We will survive.
SMAXXA
25-01-2023, 08:38 PM
If they aren’t replaced in this window then getting dragged in to bother is far from unthinkable. There is hardly any quality in the squad beyond them.
If it was the summer and we were losing them I wouldn’t be overly concerned if it were to fund an overhaul. But the overhaul isn't happening just now.
Yeah I agree and that’s the point I’m making we don’t know who will come in to replace these players so need to hang fire. Totally valid that fans fear the worst based on previous recruitment but there’s no point making all sorts of claims at this stage give it a week and see what hand we have for the remainder of the season then a bit time to watch players and judge them then we will see where we are.
Could go spectacularly wrong if we don’t get decent players in, I’m fairly hopeful that won’t be the case and we will be ok.
SMAXXA
25-01-2023, 08:39 PM
Who else is looking to move on do you know, JDH and Cadden?
Cadden is one I keep hearing but not sure 100% he does
bingo70
25-01-2023, 08:39 PM
Our recruitment has been a joke even with a full window and I wouldn't trust it to add any quality never mind in 6 days . Africa , Portugal ,Norway all we've been trying to do is sign a rake of young players hoping we unearth a gem , wouldn't surprise me if we do it again.
What’s wrong with trying to unearth a gem? Why is that a bad thing?
Strikers who are guaranteed to score goals at our level, first of all don’t exist and the ones that are a safer bet cost a lot of money that we don’t have.
eastmainsmsh
25-01-2023, 08:40 PM
Now we can get Bojang back as a perm player on £13k per week and he can get a three bedroom house somewhere in Tranent.
We were Ali diaaad with that one dodgy agent
Only player for Rainbows
scoopyboy
25-01-2023, 08:40 PM
Different sell on percentages flying around
https://twitter.com/mcgowan_stephen/status/1618356764554170370?s=46&t=A81u5amQwt-I1SjDeZXwkw
The 30% I mentioned a wee while ago came from the Dunfermline side and not from anyone at Hibs.
Benny Brazil
25-01-2023, 08:42 PM
Think folk need to calm it down to a panic with the relegation chat and writing the season off until the end of the window to see who we have actually recruited. Porto and Nizzy are 2 of a few players that want to move on so we have to get the best deal possible for them. We have had better players before those 2 many a time so as disappointing as it is to lose good players they come and go and will be replaced. Wether that’s this window or not is the million dollar question. I’d these 2 are to find a bigger overhaul I think it might be good business in the long run.
Far too sensible for the main board 😄
Winston Ingram
25-01-2023, 08:42 PM
Wonder how the club are going to spin this one.
****ing joke. Trim the squad down by selling off your two best players with 6 days left of the window.
I don’t think it’s that difficult to spin. He clearly wants away. The club can point to how his form collapsed after we knocked back his last move and the remaining period left on his contract.
davhibby
25-01-2023, 08:43 PM
I’d use the money to get myko signed perm
I’d take us doing that and attempting to manage with McKirdy, Laidlaw and O’Connor until he’s back fit. I imagine they’d want a pretty hefty fee for him though
Winston Ingram
25-01-2023, 08:43 PM
Think folk need to calm it down to a panic with the relegation chat and writing the season off until the end of the window to see who we have actually recruited. Porto and Nizzy are 2 of a few players that want to move on so we have to get the best deal possible for them. We have had better players before those 2 many a time so as disappointing as it is to lose good players they come and go and will be replaced. Wether that’s this window or not is the million dollar question. I’d these 2 are to find a bigger overhaul I think it might be good business in the long run.
Cannae be having any of this sensible ****. We must panic!
Winston Ingram
25-01-2023, 08:44 PM
I’d use the money to get myko signed perm
This
bingo70
25-01-2023, 08:45 PM
You do realise we are losing our goal threat here. Boyle is out and nisbet away. We don’t look like scoring most of the time with them in the team so god knows what the next few months will look like. Prob the same as the second half of last season. Hope for 0-0 draws. A club like Hibs that is completely unacceptable for it to happen once never mind twice.
So would you just hold on to him and run the risk of him downing tools like he did last time, getting injured again or possibly just letting his contract run down like Porto has?
The whole squad needs an overhaul and that needs paid for. I’d rather we kept Nisbet until the summer but I’m not the one who’s got to balance the books or deal with an unhappy player after we turn down the move.
The world will keep on turning, I just hope we can replace him although I think the replacement could come in the form of goals from a couple of places and not be so reliant on him.
Gmack7
25-01-2023, 08:46 PM
Cannae be having any of this sensible ****. We must panic!
Nothing wrong with panicking, we need to learn and panic earlier
yerauldda
25-01-2023, 08:47 PM
I’d use the money to get myko signed perm
Me too. Think he’s going to be a top player.
The Harp Awakes
25-01-2023, 08:49 PM
Think folk need to calm it down to a panic with the relegation chat and writing the season off until the end of the window to see who we have actually recruited. Porto and Nizzy are 2 of a few players that want to move on so we have to get the best deal possible for them. We have had better players before those 2 many a time so as disappointing as it is to lose good players they come and go and will be replaced. Wether that’s this window or not is the million dollar question. If these 2 are to fund a bigger overhaul I think it might be good business in the long run.
The problem with your theory, is you seem to have confidence that the bunch of muppets that run the recruitment department know what they're doing in spotting talent to replace Nisbet.
Track record says no chance.
Donegal Hibby
25-01-2023, 08:49 PM
Think folk need to calm it down to a panic with the relegation chat and writing the season off until the end of the window to see who we have actually recruited. Porto and Nizzy are 2 of a few players that want to move on so we have to get the best deal possible for them. We have had better players before those 2 many a time so as disappointing as it is to lose good players they come and go and will be replaced. Wether that’s this window or not is the million dollar question. I’d these 2 are to find a bigger overhaul I think it might be good business in the long run.
Problem is it's a bad window to be going to try and replace your two best players in and with only 6 days and the recruitment record we have , we will probably end up signing bugs bunny and Donald duck . Don't think we will go down but think our season is more or less over with to be honest.
LunasBoots
25-01-2023, 08:49 PM
I’d use the money to get myko signed perm
Part of the City Group just isn't going to happen.
James Stephen
25-01-2023, 08:52 PM
Well selling the only goal scorer in a struggling team didnt do Everton any harm.
They have replaced with quality and gone from strength to strength.
Orchard_Hibs
25-01-2023, 08:54 PM
Part of the City Group just isn't going to happen.
Why not? I genuinely don’t know anything about them or why we couldn’t sign from them.
SMAXXA
25-01-2023, 08:55 PM
The problem with your theory, is you seem to have confidence that the bunch of muppets that run the recruitment department know what they're doing in spotting talent to replace Nisbet.
Track record says no chance.
But what if it’s not the same people doing the recruiting this window? I’d say that changes the narrative
SMAXXA
25-01-2023, 08:55 PM
Well selling the only goal scorer in a struggling team didnt do Everton any harm.
They have replaced with quality and gone from strength to strength.
😂😂😂😂
raeburnhibs
25-01-2023, 08:55 PM
so who might be available and realistic to replace him?
Donegal Hibby
25-01-2023, 08:55 PM
What’s wrong with trying to unearth a gem? Why is that a bad thing?
Strikers who are guaranteed to score goals at our level, first of all don’t exist and the ones that are a safer bet cost a lot of money that we don’t have.
There's nothing wrong with it though we have done too much of it bojang , Melkersen, Tavares, delferriere etc etc and not added enough quality to the first team.
SON OF PADDY
25-01-2023, 08:56 PM
[QUOTE=Orchard_Hibs;7251327]I’d use the money to get myko signed
Stop it !
That's a sensible idea 💡
04Sauzee
25-01-2023, 08:57 PM
But what if it’s not the same people doing the recruiting this window? I’d say that changes the narrative
Who would be recruiting? I'm confused what's changed from summer to Jan? Obviously we are looking for a DOF, would be nice to know who's in charge of recruitment and what say LJ has in it all.
Unseen work
25-01-2023, 08:59 PM
Jamie MacLaren
#2 Double Tap
25-01-2023, 09:00 PM
Who would be recruiting? I'm confused what's changed from summer to Jan? Obviously we are looking for a DOF, would be nice to know who's in charge of recruitment and what say LJ has in it all.
No one knows, not even the people in question, everyone just pointing fingers in different direction. We serious lack leadership, the guys running the show are so weak.
Berwickhibby
25-01-2023, 09:01 PM
Jamie MacLaren
Take Jamie back in a heartbeat
#2 Double Tap
25-01-2023, 09:01 PM
Take Jamie back in a heartbeat
I didn’t like him first time round. Sure it was against Aberdeen I decided he was pi. Sh
04Sauzee
25-01-2023, 09:02 PM
so who might be available and realistic to replace him?
In Scotland I can't think of anybody?
Down South you are probably looking league 1 so a Ryan Hardie type who's out of contract in the summer.
Can't even imagine we'd get someone from a championship team unless it's a loan. Then we start looking at the foreign markets
So In other words I have absolutely no idea .
GreenNWhiteArmy
25-01-2023, 09:02 PM
Jamie MacLaren
Cumdog?
#2 Double Tap
25-01-2023, 09:03 PM
Cumdog?
Missed a trick not grabbing him from Dundee imo
Donegal Hibby
25-01-2023, 09:03 PM
Take Jamie back in a heartbeat
So would I actually , good player
so who might be available and realistic to replace him?
Recalling Doidge.
I wish I was joking, I can genuinely see that happening.
Greenworld
25-01-2023, 09:03 PM
Cumdog?You might be not far from the mark on that one .
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#2 Double Tap
25-01-2023, 09:05 PM
In Scotland I can't think of anybody?
Down South you are probably looking league 1 so a Ryan Hardie type who's out of contract in the summer.
Can't even imagine we'd get someone from a championship team unless it's a loan. Then we start looking at the foreign markets
So In other words I have absolutely no idea .
Someone even like Bruce Anderson fi livi would be a better option than a majority of the English based players we could afford.
keep the faith
25-01-2023, 09:12 PM
Jamie MacLaren
That's the signing!
SHODAN
25-01-2023, 09:16 PM
The Return of Jason
EGL2000
25-01-2023, 09:19 PM
Not that I think we should be going for Cummings,but surely the last thing he would wanna do is come back here. Seems to be loving it out there and scoring a load of goals.
Iain G
25-01-2023, 09:19 PM
Cumdog?
**** no! Rather we brought back Bojang!
The Harp Awakes
25-01-2023, 09:20 PM
Cadden is one I keep hearing but not sure 100% what he does
Fixed that :greengrin
McGruber
25-01-2023, 09:30 PM
Think folk need to calm it down to a panic with the relegation chat and writing the season off until the end of the window to see who we have actually recruited. Porto and Nizzy are 2 of a few players that want to move on so we have to get the best deal possible for them. We have had better players before those 2 many a time so as disappointing as it is to lose good players they come and go and will be replaced. Wether that’s this window or not is the million dollar question. If these 2 are to fund a bigger overhaul I think it might be good business in the long run.
Would be okay with it in the summer but I don't have any faith in a big overhaul being a success within the next week.
mcfly
25-01-2023, 09:33 PM
Think folk need to calm it down to a panic with the relegation chat and writing the season off until the end of the window to see who we have actually recruited. Porto and Nizzy are 2 of a few players that want to move on so we have to get the best deal possible for them. We have had better players before those 2 many a time so as disappointing as it is to lose good players they come and go and will be replaced. Wether that’s this window or not is the million dollar question. If these 2 are to fund a bigger overhaul I think it might be good business in the long run.
If players want to leave then nonissue with that.
To say we are not in a relegation battle is totally wrong. Apart from Boyle who is injured for the season and Nisbet who is leaving who will score the goals to win us points?? We can’t keep a clean sheet
Also our points have mainly been gained by beating 10 men - we can’t rely on that every week.
Our recruitment is a disaster so I’ve no confidence in that being improved Worrying times ahead
So would you just hold on to him and run the risk of him downing tools like he did last time, getting injured again or possibly just letting his contract run down like Porto has?
The whole squad needs an overhaul and that needs paid for. I’d rather we kept Nisbet until the summer but I’m not the one who’s got to balance the books or deal with an unhappy player after we turn down the move.
The world will keep on turning, I just hope we can replace him although I think the replacement could come in the form of goals from a couple of places and not be so reliant on him.
Spot on.
madhatter
25-01-2023, 09:48 PM
If Porteous and Nisbet want to leave then fair enough. Better to get the money.
However, it shows a long standing trend at Hibs. Even a Hibs fan wants to leave Hibs because they don't get anything that resembles sustained success. Their attitude rubs off on the rest of the squad as well which causes a vicious cycle of not performing for the team, not achieving success, and then leaving thinking they needed to go to the next level as Hibs can't go there. As if they aren't part of the problem...
People don't like LJ but we're going to need some manager to ride this out until we have a DoF. Going to be a tough gig with micro team lacking quality.
Hibernia&Alba
25-01-2023, 09:55 PM
Just reading that Celtic have signed a South Korean called Oh. He's straight into the top ten of greatest player names :greengrin
JohnM1875
25-01-2023, 09:59 PM
We could do a lot worse than get JC back. Can't see it though, looks to be loving life out in Australia, who can blame him.
Scotty Leither
25-01-2023, 09:59 PM
Rumours that he’s away to Millwall for £2.4m?
HendoDelivered
25-01-2023, 10:00 PM
Jase is loving it in Oz, no way he’s coming back to Scotland to play anytime soon, let alone Hibs.
SMAXXA
25-01-2023, 10:03 PM
If players want to leave then nonissue with that.
To say we are not in a relegation battle is totally wrong. Apart from Boyle who is injured for the season and Nisbet who is leaving who will score the goals to win us points?? We can’t keep a clean sheet
Also our points have mainly been gained by beating 10 men - we can’t rely on that every week.
Our recruitment is a disaster so I’ve no confidence in that being improved Worrying times ahead
As it stands we are as much in a relegation battle as we are in a battle for Europe, one look at the table tells you that. The same applies to probably 6/7 clubs due to how tight the league is. Granted I’d say it’s been a poor quality leave this year with teams underperforming, my point being let’s wait and see where we are after January before this relegation or Europe talk is actually appropriate.
Smartie
25-01-2023, 10:05 PM
I’d use the money to get myko signed perm
Probably the most sensible suggestion I've seen in a long time.
JohnM1875
25-01-2023, 10:06 PM
Probably the most sensible suggestion I've seen in a long time.
And unrealistic. He's on a contract till Summer 2026 for a team that's part of City group.
GreenCastle
25-01-2023, 10:09 PM
1 year our injured - 7 games and then leaves the club!
Oddly anything Hibs do right now doesn’t surprise me.
Curious to see who we bring in and if we play younger players.
I’m not sure if I’m just being selective but seems Hibs seem to sell so many more players than Hearts over the recent years. Not sure why clubs don’t want to buy Hearts players and we regularly sell talent. Felt that way with managers for a while too with managers moving on etc
McGruber
25-01-2023, 10:11 PM
Rumours that he’s away to Millwall for £2.4m?
£2.4 million includes add ons. Reported 2 million cash and rest add ons which may or may not transpire over time.
£2 million cash.
30% to Dunfermline
£1.4 million Hibs
Possible difference in finishing 4th or 5th with Nisbet to 9th or 10th without be approx £500K.
£900K
Team struggling, fans pissed off & gates down rest of season £200K
£700K
Pessimistic, rudimental work of fiction I know. Point is I don't think it's a great deal - especially if we don't replace the goals and results fall off a cliff.
JohnM1875
25-01-2023, 10:13 PM
£2.4 million includes add ons. Reported 2 million cash and rest add ons which may or may not transpire over time.
£2 million cash.
30% to Dunfermline
£1.4 million Hibs
Possible difference in finishing 4th or 5th with Nisbet to 9th or 10th without be approx £500K.
£900K
Team struggling, fans pissed off & gates down rest of season £200K
£700K
Pessimistic, rudimental work of fiction I know. Point is I don't think it's a great deal - especially if we don't replace the goals and results fall off a cliff.
Player wants away. Last time we didn't let it happen he was brutal.
CapitalGreen
25-01-2023, 10:15 PM
£2.4 million includes add ons. Reported 2 million cash and rest add ons which may or may not transpire over time.
£2 million cash.
30% to Dunfermline
£1.4 million Hibs
Possible difference in finishing 4th or 5th with Nisbet to 9th or 10th without be approx £500K.
£900K
Team struggling, fans pissed off & gates down rest of season £200K
£700K
Pessimistic, rudimental work of fiction I know. Point is I don't think it's a great deal - especially if we don't replace the goals and results fall off a cliff.
It’s 20% to Dunfermline and that is likely on profit so closer to £1.3m before add ons.
SMAXXA
25-01-2023, 10:16 PM
£2.4 million includes add ons. Reported 2 million cash and rest add ons which may or may not transpire over time.
£2 million cash.
30% to Dunfermline
£1.4 million Hibs
Possible difference in finishing 4th or 5th with Nisbet to 9th or 10th without be approx £500K.
£900K
Team struggling, fans pissed off & gates down rest of season £200K
£700K
Pessimistic, rudimental work of fiction I know. Point is I don't think it's a great deal - especially if we don't replace the goals and results fall off a cliff.
How do you quantify a player who’s pissed off doesn’t want to be here, resents the club and walks about with his face tripping him for the rest of the season? That’s the one factor you havnt mentioned Kevin has a massive say in what happens especially after we didn’t sell him to Birmingham last season. It’s good money for 18m left on his deal with a sell on clause aswell I believe so all things considered best for all parties imo.
McGruber
25-01-2023, 10:17 PM
As it stands we are as much in a relegation battle as we are in a battle for Europe, one look at the table tells you that. The same applies to probably 6/7 clubs due to how tight the league is. Granted I’d say it’s been a poor quality leave this year with teams underperforming, my point being let’s wait and see where we are after January before this relegation or Europe talk is actually appropriate.
Will wait to see who we bring in if he goes. As you say though there is nothing in the league between teams 10th to 4th so people nervous the impact on us selling our best striker coupled with our recent abysmal recruitment record.
£2.4 million includes add ons. Reported 2 million cash and rest add ons which may or may not transpire over time.
£2 million cash.
30% to Dunfermline
£1.4 million Hibs
Possible difference in finishing 4th or 5th with Nisbet to 9th or 10th without be approx £500K.
£900K
Team struggling, fans pissed off & gates down rest of season £200K
£700K
Pessimistic, rudimental work of fiction I know. Point is I don't think it's a great deal - especially if we don't replace the goals and results fall off a cliff.
Don’t forget the reduced revenue from less season ticket sales. Europe is still achievable (optimistically rather than realistically) so more losses there. Every chance that any profit is wiped out within a year by the downstream consequences. All assumes that our Board don’t have a plan up there sleeve to replace with someone at least as good - no chance.
Hibernia&Alba
25-01-2023, 10:25 PM
Player wants away. Last time we didn't let it happen he was brutal.
Yes, and that's the most important issue. If a player wants to leave, there is no point keeping him. It's then a matter of getting the best deal for Hibs.
The Harp Awakes
25-01-2023, 10:39 PM
How do you quantify a player who’s pissed off doesn’t want to be here, resents the club and walks about with his face tripping him for the rest of the season? That’s the one factor you havnt mentioned Kevin has a massive say in what happens especially after we didn’t sell him to Birmingham last season. It’s good money for 18m left on his deal with a sell on clause aswell I believe so all things considered best for all parties imo.
Apologies, but you appear to be impersonating a violin player on the Titanic.
McGruber
25-01-2023, 11:04 PM
How do you quantify a player who’s pissed off doesn’t want to be here, resents the club and walks about with his face tripping him for the rest of the season? That’s the one factor you havnt mentioned Kevin has a massive say in what happens especially after we didn’t sell him to Birmingham last season. It’s good money for 18m left on his deal with a sell on clause aswell I believe so all things considered best for all parties imo.
You may well be right. It's certainly best for Kevin Nisbet. Is it best for Hibs? Time will tell. If we bring in a good replacement with quality in other areas possibly yes. If we tumble down or worse out the league then no.
Over to our much fabled recruitment team
Real Emerald
25-01-2023, 11:11 PM
Apologies, but you appear to be impersonating a violin player on the Titanic.
I thought Ron was on the fiddle? 😂
HoboHarry
25-01-2023, 11:15 PM
I thought Ron was on the fiddle? 😂
First rule is that you call it a fiddle if you are buying but it's a violin if you are selling :greengrin
mixusman
25-01-2023, 11:17 PM
£2.4 million includes add ons. Reported 2 million cash and rest add ons which may or may not transpire over time.
£2 million cash.
30% to Dunfermline
£1.4 million Hibs
Possible difference in finishing 4th or 5th with Nisbet to 9th or 10th without be approx £500K.
£900K
Team struggling, fans pissed off & gates down rest of season £200K
£700K
Pessimistic, rudimental work of fiction I know. Point is I don't think it's a great deal - especially if we don't replace the goals and results fall off a cliff.
im afraid like everyone else , the taxman will also take his cut , suppose it’s better than losing him for next to nothing at some point in the future ??
neil7908
25-01-2023, 11:19 PM
How ****ing depressing. Guys like Antony and Mudryk go for £85m after 1 good season and we are selling our star striker for the same rate as Kenny Miller 20 years ago.
This club really know how to kick you when your down.
I have zero faith that this money will be spent wisely by the club.
GreenPJ
25-01-2023, 11:26 PM
How ****ing depressing. Guys like Antony and Mudryk go for £85m after 1 good season and we are selling our star striker for the same rate as Kenny Miller 20 years ago.
This club really know how to kick you when your down.
I have zero faith that this money will be spent wisely by the club.
Am sure if someone had offered £85M they would have considered it. On the face of it £2.4M seems a little on the low side but it will depend if there is any sell-on clause. It does seem that Nisbet has been keen to move on for a long time, he saw Hibs as a stepping stone and nothing more. The board needed to make a decision and based on his reaction last time round I would rather take a slightly lower figure than him repeating the toys out the pram performance we ended up with.
This is not and won't be the last time we face adversity, as the saying goes out of adversity comes opportunity - here's hoping for McKirdy, Laidlaw, O'Connor that is true.
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