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AlbertK86
17-01-2023, 09:02 AM
He's a steal at that, but it's also a good deal for us if we can get it.

I can't believe how badly his contract situation has been managed, yet we gave extensions to Newall and JDH over a year ago.

So if he goes our shopping list is

Centre Half
Centre Defensive Mid
Centre Mid
Right Back


We are really leaving it late.

I’d say if he goes 2 CH and a left back to complete the list


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04Sauzee
17-01-2023, 09:18 AM
Still alot of noise from Italian journalists on twitter about Porto and Udinese

hibeesjoe
17-01-2023, 09:25 AM
You would think if any of the old firm put a sensible bid in then Nisbet will push for the move.

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Winston Ingram
17-01-2023, 09:29 AM
You just know Hearts would pull out all the stops to get players in before a huge derby game. In fact they've done just that and also done it in the past. Like it or not the mentality between the two clubs when it comes to the derby is totally different.

They've got 3 in this month already. I can't see them getting another in before Sunday. It looks like they've hit an impasse with Sheff Wed over Paterson.

chippy
17-01-2023, 09:31 AM
I’ve only seen him 3 times this season and he hasn’t impressed. BUT do we not normally judge a player after about 15 mins on here? Hes certainly not a player that would build from the back so if it’s Fitz and Rocky next season it will have to be a different brand of football.
Would think we’d be looking for a left CB for next season

Scotty Leither
17-01-2023, 09:38 AM
They've got 3 in this month already. I can't see them getting another in before Sunday. It looks like they've hit an impasse with Sheff Wed over Paterson.

What’s the betting they’ll resolve this impasse and sign him, while we’ll still be fannying about bringing someone in at the last minute?

Winston Ingram
17-01-2023, 09:46 AM
Still alot of noise from Italian journalists on twitter about Porto and Udinese

Evening news reporting it now

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/serie-a-side-trying-to-close-deal-for-hibs-defender-ryan-porteous-amid-blackburn-interest-3989690

Forza Fred
17-01-2023, 10:17 AM
Blackburn fans forum saying we are interested in Tayo Udun, their 24 year old left back.

Saint Hibee
17-01-2023, 10:24 AM
He's a steal at that, but it's also a good deal for us if we can get it.

I can't believe how badly his contract situation has been managed, yet we gave extensions to Newall and JDH over a year ago.

So if he goes our shopping list is

Centre Half
Centre Defensive Mid
Centre Mid
Right Back


We are really leaving it late.

And a striker as well please.

matty_f
17-01-2023, 10:26 AM
You just know Hearts would pull out all the stops to get players in before a huge derby game. In fact they've done just that and also done it in the past. Like it or not the mentality between the two clubs when it comes to the derby is totally different.

Martin Boyle

Heisenberg
17-01-2023, 10:29 AM
Martin Boyle

Aye but apart from that time 😂

bingo70
17-01-2023, 10:29 AM
Blackburn fans forum saying we are interested in Tayo Udun, their 24 year old left back.

If we’re focusing on quality over quantity and trying to trim the squad it wouldn’t seem like a priority position for the second half of the season.

We’ve already got two competent, it not brilliant, left backs plus a good one in the youth team. Would seem like an unnecessary signing at this stage.

Rumble de Thump
17-01-2023, 10:30 AM
Ryan will need to make a deal with a club. Then that club can make Hibs an offer to sign him now rather than in the summer.

LunasBoots
17-01-2023, 10:35 AM
Zak Jules MK Don's defender possibly

04Sauzee
17-01-2023, 10:55 AM
Zak Jules MK Don's defender possibly

Where are you hearing this?

HendoDelivered
17-01-2023, 10:55 AM
Zak Jules MK Don's defender possibly

Looks like a made up rumour on twitter

B.H.F.C
17-01-2023, 11:03 AM
Quite hopeful (based on absolutely nothing) we’ll have someone in today/tomorrow. Just hope the trade off isn’t selling Porteous before Sunday.

Dalianwanda
17-01-2023, 11:15 AM
What’s the betting they’ll resolve this impasse and sign him, while we’ll still be fannying about bringing someone in at the last minute?

They’re great aren’t they.

Callum_62
17-01-2023, 11:17 AM
Someone who i recognise as a reasonable source of info (maybe Where's Wallace?) suggested last night on here a signing today is likey

Any more news /gossip on that one?

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thebausburst
17-01-2023, 11:20 AM
Hibs have made a big deal of talking about focusing on the level of quality (over quantity) of any incoming signings so personally I’m expecting a lot better than the left back and CH named in this thread, we can’t keep trawling around the English lower tiers for our ‘quality’ signings. A Connor Ronan is imo the level we need to be targeting.

Paulie Walnuts
17-01-2023, 11:21 AM
Someone who i recognise as a reasonable source of info (maybe Where's Wallace?) suggested last night on here a signing today is likey

Any more news /gossip on that one?

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They did and they’re usually very good with info :agree:

Percy Vere
17-01-2023, 11:23 AM
Can’t really see a bidding war happening as Porteous can sign a pre contract with teams.

If they are keen to have him before the summer of course you can get a bidding war. Anything over £500k and a sell on clause would be a great bit of business. Good luck to Ryan.

Unseen work
17-01-2023, 11:25 AM
Hibs have made a big deal of talking about focusing on the level of quality (over quantity) of any incoming signings so personally I’m expecting a lot better than the left back and CH named in this thread, we can’t keep trawling around the English lower tiers for our ‘quality’ signings. A Connor Ronan is imo the level we need to be targeting.

This is what I’m really interested to see, what they view as ‘quality’.

No issue where they come from as in championship/league 1 etc in England etc but they quality needs to be clear for all to see and from the off, no settling in period or whatever.

Percy Vere
17-01-2023, 11:26 AM
If we’re focusing on quality over quantity and trying to trim the squad it wouldn’t seem like a priority position for the second half of the season.

We’ve already got two competent, it not brilliant, left backs plus a good one in the youth team. Would seem like an unnecessary signing at this stage.

Unless Cabraja is going?

Unseen work
17-01-2023, 11:27 AM
If they are keen to have him before the summer of course you can get a bidding war. Anything over £500k and a sell on clause would be a great bit of business. Good luck to Ryan.

My point being Porteous could agree a pre contract with whatever team he likes, irrespective of what deal Hibs want.

Blackburn could offer Hibs 700k to get him now.

Udinese sign him on a pre contract which takes out all bidding war potential and then it’s a case of Hibs trying to get the best deal they can.

I’d say they can bid against each other for wages, but not really for Hibs if that makes sense

CallumLaidlaw
17-01-2023, 11:31 AM
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17-01-2023, 11:41 AM
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I can live with three signings as long as all three are genuine, first team starters that will improve the team.

Has to be either 2 in defence and one in midfield, or the other way round though.

Scotty Leither
17-01-2023, 11:41 AM
They’re great aren’t they.

They’re “great” at preparing 100 times better for this fixture than we are because they get the significance of it, and their transfer dealings reflect that.

Beyond that I cannae stand the *******s.

loanheadhibby
17-01-2023, 11:59 AM
Martin Boyle

As you are aware, that was last August. Since then the ****bos have potentially strengthened their squad with 3 new signings and a possible 4th on the way.

Unless Martin Boyle makes a miraculous recovery or we can transport ourselves back to August, we are going in to this cup tie severely weaker than they are?

loanheadhibby
17-01-2023, 12:02 PM
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That's a bit of a concern. Hearts seem to be gearing up for this cup tie whereas we hope to get one in and then possibly one or 2 thereafter. It's almost like they will go to any length to win this game.

Will there ever be a time when we get ahead of the game and get 3 players in to bolster us going in to a big cup tie v our neighbours?

Pedantic_Hibee
17-01-2023, 12:04 PM
As you are aware, that was last August. Since then the ****bos have potentially strengthened their squad with 3 new signings and a possible 4th on the way.

Unless Martin Boyle makes a miraculous recovery or we can transport ourselves back to August, we are going in to this cup tie severely weaker than they are?

Have you ever made a single post without referencing Hearts?

bingo70
17-01-2023, 12:09 PM
That's a bit of a concern. Hearts seem to be gearing up for this cup tie whereas we hope to get one in and then possibly one or 2 thereafter. It's almost like they will go to any length to win this game.

Will there ever be a time when we get ahead of the game and get 3 players in to bolster us going in to a big cup tie v our neighbours?

I agree with your first sentence. **** the hearts would be my response to the rest of it.

We needed more than one player at the start of this window, to lose multiple players from the squad, remember it is a squad game and a strong bench is important as well as having depth, to now be hoping to maybe have one new player in this week and maybe some later is a bit concerning.

It appears this transfer window is very reactionary and I worry we will be left feeding off the scraps. We’ve made a big deal over signing quality over quantity, I’m not sure the way we are doing it is the way you go about getting quality.

It’s also ignoring the fact we’re not getting it in for the game we need it most.

scoopyboy
17-01-2023, 12:10 PM
What's your point caller? :greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

One Day Soon
17-01-2023, 12:17 PM
We're going to make a complete **** of this transfer window, yet again, aren't we?

NC1875
17-01-2023, 12:22 PM
We obviously have a list of targets if we’re looking to bring in 2-3.

But as usual we fanny about, weeks after the window opens and days before one of the biggest games of our season and not even one in the door.

Another season written off and another pumping off Hearts no doubt.

Sickening.

loanheadhibby
17-01-2023, 12:23 PM
Have you ever made a single post without referencing Hearts?

I make no apology for holding them up as a yard stick. Who else am I meant to compare us to?

Even before their 3 signings, which club had the stronger squad going in to the cup tie?

I’m sick of being pumped off them. Do you know I read a stat that Porto has never played in a winning team against them? I’d imagine Nisbet will be the same.

loanheadhibby
17-01-2023, 12:24 PM
We obviously have a list of targets if we’re looking to bring in 2-3.

But as usual we fanny about, weeks after the window opens and days before one of the biggest games of our season and not even one in the door.

Another season written off and another pumping off Hearts no doubt.

Sickening.

Totally agree altho Tyler will be along to bully you shortly for your opinion.

They gear up every game whilst we faff about hoping to get one in this week.

LunasBoots
17-01-2023, 12:24 PM
Looks like a made up rumour on twitter

Fair enough didn't know if there was anything in it, just seen it mentioned on the dreaded social media rumours.

Real Emerald
17-01-2023, 12:26 PM
We're going to make a complete **** of this transfer window, yet again, aren't we?

As soon as the DOF (‘holding’) statement thing came out it set alarm bells ringing for me. In other words, don’t expect us to try and bolster our squad just now, we need to wait until the right structure is in place and right now we’re focusing on outs.

It was almost as if it was planned to come out now to temper expectations. That’s me being cynical though. 😂

Just_Jimmy
17-01-2023, 12:40 PM
We're going to make a complete **** of this transfer window, yet again, aren't we?Yes.

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SHODAN
17-01-2023, 12:42 PM
We're going to make a complete **** of this transfer window, yet again, aren't we?

It's more surprising when we don't.

davhibby
17-01-2023, 12:44 PM
We obviously have a list of targets if we’re looking to bring in 2-3.

But as usual we fanny about, weeks after the window opens and days before one of the biggest games of our season and not even one in the door.

Another season written off and another pumping off Hearts no doubt.

Sickening.

That’s the spirit!

NC1875
17-01-2023, 12:49 PM
That’s the spirit!

Truth hurts as they say.

stokesmessiah
17-01-2023, 12:49 PM
I honestly dont get all the wailing on here. Our squad is in a total mess and the club have admitted to mistakes. Of course the cup game against hearts is important but it os equally important that we get a grip of this squad or we are heading for worse than a pote tial cup loss. The club need time to get rid of all the dead wood and if it takes them until deadline day to do that and get the budget to sign 3 quality straight into the team players, i would much rather that than signing less quality quickly for a cup game.

NC1875
17-01-2023, 12:51 PM
I honestly dont get all the wailing on here. Our squad is in a total mess and the club have admitted to mistakes. Of course the cup game against hearts is important but it os equally important that we get a grip of this squad or we are heading for worse than a pote tial cup loss. The club need time to get rid of all the dead wood and if it takes them until deadline day to do that and get the budget to sign 3 quality straight into the team players, i would much rather that than signing less quality quickly for a cup game.

Why would that quality that’s available on deadline day not be available now ? We make excuses for everything.

Why do other teams not have to wait to sign quality ? Only Hibs.

Club is a shambles now and I have no faith in it getting any better. No matter what ***** Ben Kensell comes out with.

LunasBoots
17-01-2023, 12:53 PM
I honestly dont get all the wailing on here. Our squad is in a total mess and the club have admitted to mistakes. Of course the cup game against hearts is important but it os equally important that we get a grip of this squad or we are heading for worse than a pote tial cup loss. The club need time to get rid of all the dead wood and if it takes them until deadline day to do that and get the budget to sign 3 quality straight into the team players, i would much rather that than signing less quality quickly for a cup game.

Even if we sign players now it's probably not going to make much difference, hardly any time to settle and throwing any straight in is just going to be too soon. We all know the team at the moment isn't good enough and Sundays likely to be a struggle, most of us are just frustrated with the slowness of the current situation.

GreenCastle
17-01-2023, 12:53 PM
As soon as the DOF (‘holding’) statement thing came out it set alarm bells ringing for me. In other words, don’t expect us to try and bolster our squad just now, we need to wait until the right structure is in place and right now we’re focusing on outs.

It was almost as if it was planned to come out now to temper expectations. That’s me being cynical though. 😂

I don’t think you are far off.

It was done to give the fans a boost and take the heat off the manager.

Like most things the club do recently it’s reactive and scripted (Ben decided interview questions to suit the agenda).

stokesmessiah
17-01-2023, 12:54 PM
Why would that quality that’s available on deadline day not be available now ? We make excuses for everything.

Why do other teams not have to wait to sign quality ? Only Hibs.

Club is a shambles now and I have no faith in it getting any better. No matter what ***** Ben Kensell comes out with.

Its pretty obvious why, they want to get as much as possible off the wage bill and then they will know what they can spend on bringing in that quality.

Real Emerald
17-01-2023, 12:57 PM
I don’t think you are far off.

It was done to give the fans a boost and take the heat off the manager.

Like most things the club do recently it’s reactive and scripted (Ben decided interview questions to suit the agenda).

It was equivalent of Hibs management playing a get out of jail card. Getting the excuses out early to make it look like they had a plan. I’m not buying it though.

NC1875
17-01-2023, 01:00 PM
Its pretty obvious why, they want to get as much as possible off the wage bill and then they will know what they can spend on bringing in that quality.

And that quality player signs for someone else meantime whilst we fanny about ? Aye that’s right, we’ll get another Will Fish on loan deadline day.

Clubs being run by clowns and the joke is on us.

Callum_62
17-01-2023, 01:01 PM
And that quality player signs for someone else meantime whilst we fanny about ? Aye that’s right, we’ll get another Will Fish on loan deadline day.

Clubs being run by clowns and the joke is on us.Why no just chuck it this season - it's all a disaster anyway

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NC1875
17-01-2023, 01:04 PM
Why no just chuck it this season - it's all a disaster anyway

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That’s what they’re doing.

Dalianwanda
17-01-2023, 01:08 PM
They’re “great” at preparing 100 times better for this fixture than we are because they get the significance of it, and their transfer dealings reflect that.

Beyond that I cannae stand the *******s.

😅👍

Sorry just getting sick of the amount of platitudes they are getting to slate us. They are doing ‘ok’ on the pitch and no better off it if you take away donations and foh. We’ve stated we’ve fckd up & also what is going to be done to try and fix it. So yes at the moment on the football side they are more stable but they aren’t exactly shooting the lights out.

I fancy us for this game purely because we’re written off by so many.

jeffers
17-01-2023, 01:08 PM
Why no just chuck it this season - it's all a disaster anyway

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madhatter
17-01-2023, 01:09 PM
Why no just chuck it this season - it's all a disaster anyway

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It has been chucked.

Can't clear that much budget by getting rid of your bottom end. The players that have left will not have cleared that much budget and certainly not enough to bring 2-3 quality players in.

DoF is another thing.

Season has been binned.

erin go bragh
17-01-2023, 01:11 PM
I make no apology for holding them up as a yard stick. Who else am I meant to compare us to?

Even before their 3 signings, which club had the stronger squad going in to the cup tie?

I’m sick of being pumped off them. Do you know I read a stat that Porto has never played in a winning team against them? I’d imagine Nisbet will be the same.
Here is a stat. Robbie replay has never won a competitive game at Easter road as a player or manager.

CallumLaidlaw
17-01-2023, 01:13 PM
It has been chucked.

Can't clear that much budget by getting rid of your bottom end. The players that have left will not have cleared that much budget and certainly not enough to bring 2-3 quality players in.

DoF is another thing.

Season has been binned.

Personally I think we’re doing what we can to save the season.
We clearly can’t bring players in until we know the budget is available. Admission of wrongdoing currently in place with all the departures. And my guess is, some of the departures will be on pretty decent money.
A de-clutter and then adding 3 good first choice players will make all the difference. Just need to see if they can see it through.


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bingo70
17-01-2023, 01:19 PM
Personally I think we’re doing what we can to save the season.
We clearly can’t bring players in until we know the budget is available. Admission of wrongdoing currently in place with all the departures. And my guess is, some of the departures will be on pretty decent money.
A de-clutter and then adding 3 good first choice players will make all the difference. Just need to see if they can see it through.


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Hearts are having to get people off the wage bill now too but they’ve prioritised the team first.

There was a bit of an educated gamble needed by the board at Hibs…… what players did we want to get rid of? How much interest is there in them? How realistic is it they could be moved on? Etc……

IMO the club can’t just sit about waiting until people are moved on and then see what scraps are left over, whilst at the same time say we are focusing on quality over quantity.

Do we think available quality players are waiting on finding out if we were able to cut our wage bill by enough to afford them? No chance, they’ll be signing for clubs earlier in the window who are proactively pursuing them.

madhatter
17-01-2023, 01:20 PM
Personally I think we’re doing what we can to save the season.
We clearly can’t bring players in until we know the budget is available. Admission of wrongdoing currently in place with all the departures. And my guess is, some of the departures will be on pretty decent money.
A de-clutter and then adding 3 good first choice players will make all the difference. Just need to see if they can see it through.


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I'd go along with that thinking if we were clearing the squad at the top. Doubt the players that have left were paid more than Mitchell for example. Save the season looks like secure a safe bottom six finish.

Players starting every week are not performing, getting rid of random players that never start and bringing 2 quality players in might help but we need to change the top end of our squad as they aren't good enough either.

The Harp Awakes
17-01-2023, 01:22 PM
I make no apology for holding them up as a yard stick. Who else am I meant to compare us to?

Even before their 3 signings, which club had the stronger squad going in to the cup tie?

I’m sick of being pumped off them. Do you know I read a stat that Porto has never played in a winning team against them? I’d imagine Nisbet will be the same.

:cool2:

I think you've all but blown your cover with that last post LH.

A look back at your previous posts is also telling. You never have a good thing to say about Hibs and frequently big up the jambos - Hearts have always been bigger than 'us', Shankland is a significant upgrade on Nisbet etc

You've blown your cover pal. Toddle off now.

loanheadhibby
17-01-2023, 01:23 PM
:cool2:

I think you've all but blown you're cover with that last post LH.

A look back at your previous posts is also telling. You never have a good thing to say about Hibs and frequently big up the jambos - Hearts have always been bigger than 'us', Shankland is a significant upgrade on Nisbet etc

You've blown your cover pal. Toddle off now.

Aye you’ve outed me mate. Let the grown ups debate tho and you get back to your theories.

CallumLaidlaw
17-01-2023, 01:24 PM
Hearts are having to get people off the wage bill now too but they’ve prioritised the team first.

There was a bit of an educated gamble needed by the board at Hibs…… what players did we want to get rid of? How much interest is there in them? How realistic is it they could be moved on? Etc……

IMO the club can’t just sit about waiting until people are moved on and then see what scraps are left over, whilst at the same time say we are focusing on quality over quantity.

Do we think available quality players are waiting on finding out if we were able to cut our wage bill by enough to afford them? No chance, they’ll be signing for clubs earlier in the window who are proactively pursuing them.

I’m frustrated too, but as we know, business gets done right up to the end of the window. Clubs aren’t always keen to let good players go until they have their replacements secured, or players that were maybe holding out for a bigger move all of a sudden lower their expectations as the window is about to close.
I am within my rights to chuck this reasoning out the window if we lose on Sunday [emoji23]


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jeffers
17-01-2023, 01:26 PM
Hearts are having to get people off the wage bill now too but they’ve prioritised the team first.

There was a bit of an educated gamble needed by the board at Hibs…… what players did we want to get rid of? How much interest is there in them? How realistic is it they could be moved on? Etc……

IMO the club can’t just sit about waiting until people are moved on and then see what scraps are left over, whilst at the same time say we are focusing on quality over quantity.

Do we think available quality players are waiting on finding out if we were able to cut our wage bill by enough to afford them? No chance, they’ll be signing for clubs earlier in the window who are proactively pursuing them.

Agree Bingo. While we shouldn’t just sign anyone for the sake of it (and I don’t think anyone has suggested that) I don’t think they are placing anywhere near enough importance on Sunday’s game. Win it and there’s a chance of some real feelgood amongst the supporters, it also gives Johnson some breathing space. Lose it badly and he’s gone after being allowed to make a call on letting players go another manager may have had a different view on.

loanheadhibby
17-01-2023, 01:27 PM
I agree with your first sentence. **** the hearts would be my response to the rest of it.

We needed more than one player at the start of this window, to lose multiple players from the squad, remember it is a squad game and a strong bench is important as well as having depth, to now be hoping to maybe have one new player in this week and maybe some later is a bit concerning.

It appears this transfer window is very reactionary and I worry we will be left feeding off the scraps. We’ve made a big deal over signing quality over quantity, I’m not sure the way we are doing it is the way you go about getting quality.

It’s also ignoring the fact we’re not getting it in for the game we need it most.

I’ve no issues with the board/recruitment team waiting until the end of the window as sometimes good deals come up late on.

However as soon as we were drawn at home to Hearts, I’d have thought the board might have shown some urgency to back the manager.

What a lift it will be if we can get a couple of bodies in but you’d have thought a few days training would help familiarise any news players with our current guys.

bingo70
17-01-2023, 01:30 PM
I’m frustrated too, but as we know, business gets done right up to the end of the window. Clubs aren’t always keen to let good players go until they have their replacements secured, or players that were maybe holding out for a bigger move all of a sudden lower their expectations as the window is about to close.
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Yeah, I get the logic. Just feels like we’ve seen this movie before.

Hibs banging on about quality over quantity like it’s a new idea isn’t really helping me have any faith in the current regime either.

The same people who thought the summer signings were quality, are now being asked to do the same this window with less money and less time and in a window where there are less free transfers available.

Hopefully the club prove me wrong but I’m sceptical.

Fuzzywuzzy
17-01-2023, 01:30 PM
https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/transfer-news/ryan-porteous-blackburn-hibernian-transfers-25996334?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

loanheadhibby
17-01-2023, 01:31 PM
As soon as the DOF (‘holding’) statement thing came out it set alarm bells ringing for me. In other words, don’t expect us to try and bolster our squad just now, we need to wait until the right structure is in place and right now we’re focusing on outs.

It was almost as if it was planned to come out now to temper expectations. That’s me being cynical though. 😂

That’s a dangerous game to play tho? Imagine they wait until next week to get new players in and we lose Sunday.

I might implode if we lose Sunday and if I do, you can guarantee the club/Johnson will get to know about the fan’s feelings.

It’s imperative that we win Sunday. Nothing else is an option.

bingo70
17-01-2023, 01:32 PM
Agree Bingo. While we shouldn’t just sign anyone for the sake of it (and I don’t think anyone has suggested that) I don’t think they are placing anywhere near enough importance on Sunday’s game. Win it and there’s a chance of some real feelgood amongst the supporters, it also gives Johnson some breathing space. Lose it badly and he’s gone after being allowed to make a call on letting players go another manager may have had a different view on.

If we brought in 2 or 3 new players and we lost then so be it, not much more can be asked if the board and it’s on LJ.

By not backing the manager it means now the board and the manager are culpable should we lose.

jeffers
17-01-2023, 01:34 PM
If we brought in 2 or 3 new players and we lost then so be it, not much more can be asked if the board and it’s on LJ.

By not backing the manager it means now the board and the manager are culpable should we lose.
:agree:

Maybe time for Ron to dip into his pockets and fix the mess his decisions have caused.

flash
17-01-2023, 01:35 PM
:agree:

Maybe time for Ron to dip into his pockets and fix the mess his decisions have caused.

Can't help but feel we are waiting to seal Porto departure before we bring people in.
Smacks a bit of the Josh Doig debacle last January.

HNA12
17-01-2023, 01:37 PM
Can we cut out the petty bickering and personal stuff that’s been appearing on this thread and others. We know it’s a small minority doing it but we’ve got paying jobs etc demanding our time as well.

Just play nice.:greengrin

jeffers
17-01-2023, 01:38 PM
Can't help but feel we are waiting to seal Porto departure before we bring people in.
Smacks a bit of the Josh Doig debacle last January.

Big gamble imo, but wouldn’t surprise me at all.

HendoDelivered
17-01-2023, 01:40 PM
https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/transfer-news/ryan-porteous-blackburn-hibernian-transfers-25996334?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Article tries to make it sound like he’s said he will go to them

loanheadhibby
17-01-2023, 01:42 PM
Can we cut out the petty bickering and personal stuff that’s been appearing on this thread and others. We know it’s a small minority doing it but we’ve got paying jobs etc demanding our time as well.

Just play nice.:greengrin

Appreciate what you do and you’ve got paid jobs, but there is blatant bullying going on. I’ll continue to call them out when I receive it. Deleting their post is not deterring them doing it on the next thread etc.

There are some poor behaviours being shown.

bingo70
17-01-2023, 01:43 PM
:agree:

Maybe time for Ron to dip into his pockets and fix the mess his decisions have caused.

Not even sure that’s needed. Like I said earlier, use a bit planning and foresight to predict who we could get off the wage bill. Then in the worst case scenario if we don’t get anyone off the wage bill, we borrow money from the owner and pay it back when Nisbet or Doig is sold or even if we get s good cup run. There’s assets there and money likely to be coming in. This idea we need to sit about on our hands until we see who leaves surely isn’t how successful businesses usually operate?

Melkerson been in talks with Rotterdam for a month, Bojang known for ages he was leaving, kenneh it wouldn’t take a genius to work out we could find a club to loan him too.

That’s before you look at the likelihood of Porteous being sold.

If I was a betting man, I would guess that anybody we bring in won’t be of any more significant quality than we normally get in a transfer window.

04Sauzee
17-01-2023, 01:46 PM
Article tries to make it sound like he’s said he will go to them

Sounds like he's open to England, Belgium,Italy, Germany? All the leagues he's been linked with.

jeffers
17-01-2023, 01:58 PM
Not even sure that’s needed. Like I said earlier, use a bit planning and foresight to predict who we could get off the wage bill. Then in the worst case scenario if we don’t get anyone off the wage bill, we borrow money from the owner and pay it back when Nisbet or Doig is sold or even if we get s good cup run. There’s assets there and money likely to be coming in. This idea we need to sit about on our hands until we see who leaves surely isn’t how successful businesses usually operate?

Melkerson been in talks with Rotterdam for a month, Bojang known for ages he was leaving, kenneh it wouldn’t take a genius to work out we could find a club to loan him too.

That’s before you look at the likelihood of Porteous being sold.

If I was a betting man, I would guess that anybody we bring in won’t be of any more significant quality than we normally get in a transfer window.

I don’t think we are really disagreeing, if we need money to bring in players RG can use some of his own whether it be a loan or not, but d1cking about til we get rid of players is a mistake imo. Either they back Johnson or they don’t. All feels a bit half assed to me.

Sadly I agree with your last sentence.

badabing67
17-01-2023, 01:58 PM
As soon as the DOF (‘holding’) statement thing came out it set alarm bells ringing for me. In other words, don’t expect us to try and bolster our squad just now, we need to wait until the right structure is in place and right now we’re focusing on outs.

It was almost as if it was planned to come out now to temper expectations. That’s me being cynical though. 😂

Surprised there is not a dedicated thread for DoF considering the change of direction it brings to the club. Apart form the announcement that we are getting a DoF. Does anyone have any Idea of what time frame the club has to get the candidate in post. As far as I am aware there has been no communication regarding a short list of candidates, interview dates etc. Is a DoF expected in position before the end of the window, or is it something they are going to take there time over and we have a DoF in position in time for the next window.

CapitalGreen
17-01-2023, 02:00 PM
Surprised there is not a dedicated thread for DoF considering the change of direction it brings to the club. Apart form the announcement that we are getting a DoF. Does anyone have any Idea of what time frame the club has to get the candidate in post. As far as I am aware there has been no communication regarding a short list of candidates, interview dates etc. Is a DoF expected in position before the end of the window, or is it something they are going to take there time over and we have a DoF in position in time for the next window.

The 2nd top thread

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?360791-Kensell-Update-DoF-Confirmed&p=7235678#post7235678

HNA2
17-01-2023, 02:08 PM
Appreciate what you do and you’ve got paid jobs, but there is blatant bullying going on. I’ll continue to call them out when I receive it. Deleting their post is not deterring them doing it on the next thread etc.

There are some poor behaviours being shown.


Us the report post function and ignore . As stated we wont tolerate petty bickering or personal abuse and continuing it only goes one way

badabing67
17-01-2023, 02:11 PM
The 2nd top thread

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?360791-Kensell-Update-DoF-Confirmed&p=7235678#post7235678

Cheers

Scotty Leither
17-01-2023, 02:11 PM
I honestly dont get all the wailing on here. Our squad is in a total mess and the club have admitted to mistakes. Of course the cup game against hearts is important but it os equally important that we get a grip of this squad or we are heading for worse than a pote tial cup loss. The club need time to get rid of all the dead wood and if it takes them until deadline day to do that and get the budget to sign 3 quality straight into the team players, i would much rather that than signing less quality quickly for a cup game.

The cup tie is only one week before the deadline. Whenever we “wait” for quality we end up on deadline day signing the same type of dross we usually get who turn out to be no better than what we have, and then round we go again.

One Day Soon
17-01-2023, 02:17 PM
The cup tie is only one week before the deadline. Whenever we “wait” for quality we end up on deadline day signing the same type of dross we usually get who turn out to be no better than what we have, and then round we go again.

Absolutely this.

GreenCastle
17-01-2023, 02:17 PM
Could the Hibs board be waiting to see the outcome of Sunday ?

If LJ loses then 2 out of 3 of his targets (out both cups early) haven’t been met and maybe there is something in contract to get rid from Hibs end without a large payoff ?

Meaning hire new manager who gets to decide about new players coming in towards end of window.

MrRobot
17-01-2023, 02:18 PM
We obviously have a list of targets if we’re looking to bring in 2-3.

But as usual we fanny about, weeks after the window opens and days before one of the biggest games of our season and not even one in the door.

Another season written off and another pumping off Hearts no doubt.

Sickening.

Would it be better we just said **** the list of targets and get the first person in the door that we can just to appease some fans that we’ve signed somebody?

SaulGoodman
17-01-2023, 02:18 PM
Could the Hibs board be waiting to see the outcome of Sunday ?

If LJ loses then 2 out of 3 of his targets (out both cups early) haven’t been met and maybe there is something in contract to get rid from Hibs end without a large payoff ?

Meaning hire new manager who gets to decide about new players coming in towards end of window.

Unless they’ve already sounded out a replacement and he’s got players in mind I would imagine it would be very difficult to get a new manager and players in within a week.

Brightside
17-01-2023, 02:22 PM
Could the Hibs board be waiting to see the outcome of Sunday ?

If LJ loses then 2 out of 3 of his targets (out both cups early) haven’t been met and maybe there is something in contract to get rid from Hibs end without a large payoff ?

Meaning hire new manager who gets to decide about new players coming in towards end of window.

I'm going to assume that any new signing will be an LJ target. Big risk to buy players he wants if indeed he may get sacked after the weekend? Rock and a hard place for Hibs.

NC1875
17-01-2023, 02:23 PM
Would it be better we just said **** the list of targets and get the first person in the door that we can just to appease some fans that we’ve signed somebody?

No. You could just pay your number one target what they want and get them signed. Just like other teams do.

Instead we fanny about and fans make excuses for the clowns running the club.

There’s always an excuse with Hibs. We’re a shambles, a bit of urgency wouldnt go amiss. Glad you’re happy with how things are going 👍🏼

bingo70
17-01-2023, 02:24 PM
Could the Hibs board be waiting to see the outcome of Sunday ?

If LJ loses then 2 out of 3 of his targets (out both cups early) haven’t been met and maybe there is something in contract to get rid from Hibs end without a large payoff ?

Meaning hire new manager who gets to decide about new players coming in towards end of window.

I think there’s an element of holding back budget in case he needs replaced.

I don’t think it makes sense to strip the squad back as much as we can and then see what’s left in the transfer market and I don’t think that’s how clubs operate really.

If we lose on Sunday he’ll be sacked and that needs paid for.

GreenCastle
17-01-2023, 02:25 PM
I'm going to assume that any new signing will be an LJ target. Big risk to buy players he wants if indeed he may get sacked after the weekend? Rock and a hard place for Hibs.

This is why the club need more solid recruitment so doesn’t matter the manager we have a proper signing strategy. Not just manager X knows this player so he brings him in.

LJ has come in and he or others have decided what he walked into wasn’t working.

It’s taken 6 months for someone to announce we aim to make a slight change

Even then a DOF doesn’t suddenly mean our recruitment improves but you would hope it helps.

Alfred E Newman
17-01-2023, 02:26 PM
The cup tie is only one week before the deadline. Whenever we “wait” for quality we end up on deadline day signing the same type of dross we usually get who turn out to be no better than what we have, and then round we go again.

I think we probably have enough in the existing squad to survive. I certainly wouldn't be splashing the cash at the moment especially if LJ has to go after the derby.

MrRobot
17-01-2023, 02:27 PM
No. You could just pay your number one target what they want and get them signed. Just like other teams do.

Instead we fanny about and fans make excuses for the clowns running the club.

There’s always an excuse with Hibs. We’re a shambles, a bit of urgency wouldnt go amiss. Glad you’re happy with how things are going 👍🏼

What if the selling club want a replacement before they will let the player go? Do we go elsewhere and avoid our targets for the sake of showing urgency?

NC1875
17-01-2023, 02:29 PM
What if the selling club want a replacement before they will let the player go? Do we go elsewhere and avoid our targets for the sake of showing urgency?

Coincidence that every target we have is in the same boat ? I don’t think so.

04Sauzee
17-01-2023, 02:31 PM
I think we probably have enough in the existing squad to survive. I certainly wouldn't be splashing the cash at the moment especially if LJ has to go after the derby.

It's crazy to think we would be holding off signing players just in case ? The worse this season goes the more it impacts on next summer's budgets with season ticket income, and even hospitality sales for the rest of this season. Can't get my head aroun it at all I'm not buying it.

Real Emerald
17-01-2023, 02:34 PM
I'm going to assume that any new signing will be an LJ target. Big risk to buy players he wants if indeed he may get sacked after the weekend? Rock and a hard place for Hibs.

That’s why I believe Hibs put out the statement they did when they did. They rightly believe we’re on the wrong path and here’s a reason we’re not making any notable signings. They’re spinning it but in the end they’re probably right, just months too late.

It seems like they are running the club with a trial and error approach, meanwhile we get worse.

MrRobot
17-01-2023, 02:34 PM
Coincidence that every target we have is in the same boat ? I don’t think so.

I have no idea, January is a harder window to sign players.

I agree we need to stump up money but i want a signing that is our top target over somebody that is simply available so if we have to wait then it’s in the best interest.

I think that given all the players out, we will see a player in very shortly.

I'm Spartacus
17-01-2023, 02:36 PM
So we wait until Sunday, he gets relieved on Monday, Porto leaves for Blackburn, a new guy arrives with zero squad and 2 weeks to do something under conditions worse than any other of our previous managers.

How can this cycle ever work?

bingo70
17-01-2023, 02:47 PM
So we wait until Sunday, he gets relieved on Monday, Porto leaves for Blackburn, a new guy arrives with zero squad and 2 weeks to do something under conditions worse than any other of our previous managers.

How can this cycle ever work?

By appointing a director of football to ensure this doesn’t happen again.

The current strategy hasn’t worked but at least the club have recognised that and plans are in place to improve us going forward.

Dmas
17-01-2023, 02:50 PM
I think we probably have enough in the existing squad to survive. I certainly wouldn't be splashing the cash at the moment especially if LJ has to go after the derby.

He’s not going anywhere, no way would he be allowed to be choosing who staying and going as well as looking at targets to bring in off the back of money saved from outs if the board had any ideas about sacking him.

We made an awful mistake last January with manager and signings the squad has been horribly unbalanced since I think they will back LJ in the next couple of windows to address that

Stuart93
17-01-2023, 02:52 PM
I wish we’d ****ing do something. Beyond a joke now.

scoopyboy
17-01-2023, 02:53 PM
Why would that quality that’s available on deadline day not be available now ? We make excuses for everything.

Why do other teams not have to wait to sign quality ? Only Hibs.

Club is a shambles now and I have no faith in it getting any better. No matter what ***** Ben Kensell comes out with.

A lot of players won't sign early in a transfer window because a better offer may come along. Every window players will hang off signing as they want a pay off from their club and can then sign as free agents.

Only Hibs wait to sign quality, who have Rangers signed?

SickBoy32
17-01-2023, 02:59 PM
He’s not going anywhere, no way would he be allowed to be choosing who staying and going as well as looking at targets to bring in off the back of money saved from outs if the board had any ideas about sacking him.

We made an awful mistake last January with manager and signings the squad has been horribly unbalanced since I think they will back LJ in the next couple of windows to address that

This board sacked a manager whilst we were about to play in a cup final - literally anything is possible with these clowns running the show

GreenCastle
17-01-2023, 03:00 PM
A lot of players won't sign early in a transfer window because a better offer may come along. Every window players will hang off signing as they want a pay off from their club and can then sign as free agents.

Only Hibs wait to sign quality, who have Rangers signed?

I understand players want to look out for themselves but as a club we should have a strategy to sign players who want to play for the club and to do so is an honour.

Too many comfortable contracts and players who will never play higher.

We don’t have to sign un tested youngsters with few appearances but players who are seeing Hibs as a step up and will come in and give everything.

The character of any new signings we make will be key to see if we have learnt from what we are missing.

SMAXXA
17-01-2023, 03:01 PM
He won’t be sacked did we lose on Sunday no idea where this is coming from. Playing devils advocate, we lose against rangers Celtic and hearts which many if not all would expect us to with the current squad and we have beat Livi, well and drew with United all since the break. That he will argue is progress and as such will keep his job and sign a few this month.

scoopyboy
17-01-2023, 03:06 PM
I understand players want to look out for themselves but as a club we should have a strategy to sign players who want to play for the club and to do so is an honour.

Too many comfortable contracts and players who will never play higher.

We don’t have to sign un tested youngsters with few appearances but players who are seeing Hibs as a step up and will come in and give everything.

The character of any new signings we make will be key to see if we have learnt from what we are missing.

I agree entirely.

If it was down to me when we made an offer for a player I would put a time limit on it, if not accepted offer withdrawn.

CapitalGreen
17-01-2023, 03:09 PM
I agree entirely.

If it was down to me when we made an offer for a player I would put a time limit on it, if not accepted offer withdrawn.

Maybe that’s why we take a while to sign anyone. We keep withdrawing offers for players and end up on our 3rd or 4th choice before someone accepts within our time limit.

GreenCastle
17-01-2023, 03:11 PM
He won’t be sacked did we lose on Sunday no idea where this is coming from. Playing devils advocate, we lose against rangers Celtic and hearts which many if not all would expect us to with the current squad and we have beat Livi, well and drew with United all since the break. That he will argue is progress and as such will keep his job and sign a few this month.

Lose this weekend and since the break it could well be..

Played 7
Lost 4
Won 2
Drew 1

Including out the Scottish Cup. If we lose the next league game against Aberdeen the highest we will finish will be 5th if we are lucky I feel.

Keeping it simple - the squad is currently weaker than it was at start of window.

Since452
17-01-2023, 03:19 PM
If LJ is sacked between now and the end of the season i'll eat my hat. Won't happen.

loanheadhibby
17-01-2023, 03:29 PM
If LJ is sacked between now and the end of the season i'll eat my hat. Won't happen.

I’m not so sure. A defeat on Sunday is unthinkable if you ask me. A 3 goal defeat and he’s a goner. The fans will turn massively.

We must win Sunday.

CapitalGreen
17-01-2023, 03:31 PM
I’m not so sure. A defeat on Sunday is unthinkable if you ask me. A 3 goal defeat and he’s a goner. The fans will turn massively.

We must win Sunday.

How can it be unthinkable when most people fully expect it?

HoboHarry
17-01-2023, 03:32 PM
I agree entirely.

If it was down to me when we made an offer for a player I would put a time limit on it, if not accepted offer withdrawn.
Doesn't really work in a tight time frame like January. Once the offer is made to we can't realistically make an offer to a similar player/option until the timeline passes. We would run the risk of getting neither or even both. Getting both would be great if we had Celtic's budget.

loanheadhibby
17-01-2023, 03:35 PM
How can it be unthinkable when most people fully expect it?

I mean for Lee & the club. Imagine the knock on for season ticket sales/additional cash coming in to club from cup run.

If they think they are under pressure now, that will intensify massively if we lose Sunday.

And can you imagine any ****bo (regardless of form/league position) expect not to win? Our club’s mentality needs a shift to were we expect to win derbies regardless of form/league position.

Hibby Bairn
17-01-2023, 03:40 PM
Lose this weekend and since the break it could well be..

Played 7
Lost 4
Won 2
Drew 1

Including out the Scottish Cup. If we lose the next league game against Aberdeen the highest we will finish will be 5th if we are lucky I feel.

Keeping it simple - the squad is currently weaker than it was at start of window.

Win this weekend and it would be W3/L3/D1. 3 losses to Rangers and Hearts away plus Celtic at home.

Pretty much as expected. Perhaps better than expected.

Libby Hibby
17-01-2023, 03:47 PM
Win this weekend and it would be W3/L3/D1. 3 losses to Rangers and Hearts away plus Celtic at home.

Pretty much as expected. Perhaps better than expected.

The perfect example of whether someone is an optimist or a pessimist.

Trinity Hibee
17-01-2023, 03:57 PM
The perfect example of whether someone is an optimist or a pessimist.

😂

Winston Ingram
17-01-2023, 03:59 PM
I’m not so sure. A defeat on Sunday is unthinkable if you ask me. A 3 goal defeat and he’s a goner. The fans will turn massively.

We must win Sunday.

I wouldn’t bet on it.

If they punt LJ they know it’ll just point the spotlight on them.

On top of that, I can’t see us punting him before the window closes as it puts even more pressure on them to spend.

I’m not convinced that they want to either as they likely realise he’s been given no chance with the squad he’s been given.

Scotty Leither
17-01-2023, 04:09 PM
He won’t be sacked did we lose on Sunday no idea where this is coming from. Playing devils advocate, we lose against rangers Celtic and hearts which many if not all would expect us to with the current squad and we have beat Livi, well and drew with United all since the break. That he will argue is progress and as such will keep his job and sign a few this month.

That's a dangerous mindset to get into, because I for one am not going to keep turning up to games against the Old Firm at home, and Hearts home and away, thinking this game is a dead rubber, as it brackets us as "plucky Hibs", instead of a team that harbours notions of at least beating them once in a while.


That attitude was embedded under the previous Board...if it starts to prevail again, the club are truly ****ed because the fans simply won't wear that poverty of ambition.

loanheadhibby
17-01-2023, 04:13 PM
I wouldn’t bet on it.

If they punt LJ they know it’ll just point the spotlight on them.

On top of that, I can’t see us punting him before the window closes as it puts even more pressure on them to spend.

I’m not convinced that they want to either as they likely realise he’s been given no chance with the squad he’s been given.

You make a lot of good points. I think tho if we happen to lose Sunday, the pressure on the board is going to be massive.

I’m torn a bit as I’m liking the fact that LJ is getting rid of some of the players who have not cut the mustard. We’re starting to see a clear out which was required.

Possibly the club will stand by him in worst case scenario and give him chance to bring in his players.

It’s really as simple as the club must win in Sunday. Buys Lee and the club time.

Trinity Hibee
17-01-2023, 04:16 PM
Win on Sunday i think its safe to say LJ keeps his job to the summer at least unless we were to somehow get relegated. Lose and who knows what happens

NC1875
17-01-2023, 04:18 PM
A lot of players won't sign early in a transfer window because a better offer may come along. Every window players will hang off signing as they want a pay off from their club and can then sign as free agents.

Only Hibs wait to sign quality, who have Rangers signed?

Rangers that are 2nd in the league and in a cup final. Not in such desperate need of starting players I’m afraid. Not even a comparison.

GreenCastle
17-01-2023, 04:23 PM
Win on Sunday i think its safe to say LJ keeps his job to the summer at least unless we were to somehow get relegated. Lose and who knows what happens

Really till summer? He will need to do more than win on Sunday to get the many fans back onside. We still have possibly x2 more derbies...if we make one of the targets of top 6 - which I feel we are playing for 5th or 6th.

If you think he keeps his job till Summer he will need next summers window too. So he would have had x3 windows and be leading the team into next season starting with the league cup again...

Window 1 - not great
Window 2 - currently open and no incomings yet
Window 3 - (summer - who knows!)

CallumLaidlaw
17-01-2023, 04:23 PM
Rangers that are 2nd in the league and in a cup final. Not in such desperate need of starting players I’m afraid. Not even a comparison.

They’re in a 2 team league and they’re currently behind. They’re screaming out for players.


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DIXIHIBS
17-01-2023, 04:27 PM
I think the board are waiting to see what happens on Sunday. Win and LJ will probably get a couple of new faces in to see out the rest of the season and a DOF will be in place. Lose and he could easily be on his way. The board wont let him bring much in if he could be punted a few days later. We've probably got enough to see out the season and allow a new manager/DOF to assess before the summer window. This sunday is pivotal imho.

madhatter
17-01-2023, 04:30 PM
I think the board are waiting to see what happens on Sunday. Win and LJ will probably get a couple of new faces in to see out the rest of the season and a DOF will be in place. Lose and he could easily be on his way. The board wont let him bring much in if he could be punted a few days later. We've probably got enough to see out the season and allow a new manager/DOF to assess before the summer window. This sunday is pivotal imho.

Problem is if they sack him the focus and pressure will be immediately on them. From what I can tell most fans, even those that dislike LJ, are getting fed up of sacking managers. I think it's becoming evidently apparent that a considerable source of our problems is away from the manager as well. DoF is just a deflection for their failure at this stage. Sacking LJ would be the 2nd stage of that deflection.

NC1875
17-01-2023, 04:30 PM
They’re in a 2 team league and they’re currently behind. They’re screaming out for players.


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Rangers have a decent squad. We have anything but a decent squad. We’ve also got a Scottish cup tie against our biggest rivals on Sunday. Well, they’re the fans biggest rivals. The board clearly just see it as another game.

Love how people think because we’ve not signed anyone it’s because we’re wanting quality.

Surely these clowns thought every signing was quality. Nothing will change. We’ll get a couple of loans from England or an unknown from abroad and they’ll tell us how lucky we are to have signed them. Rinse and repeat in 6 months with a different manager.

bingo70
17-01-2023, 04:34 PM
Problem is if they sack him the focus and pressure will be immediately on them. From what I can tell most fans, even those that dislike LJ, are getting fed up of sacking managers. I think it's becoming evidently apparent that a considerable source of our problems is away from the manager as well. DoF is just a deflection for their failure at this stage. Sacking LJ would be the 2nd stage of that deflection.

Focus and pressure would only be on them until the new manager was appointed though and then there would be some positivity about the place that always comes with a new manager.

If we don’t think LJ can turn it around, he needs replaced, regardless of how that looks.

matty_f
17-01-2023, 04:35 PM
Here is a stat. Robbie replay has never won a competitive game at Easter road as a player or manager.

Mental considering how much more it means to them.

timewilltell
17-01-2023, 04:39 PM
Connor ronan is set to join Hibs from wolves on a 2 year deal ronan is expected to head to Easter road Tommorow for his medical.this would be a massive improvement in the hibs midfield.

hibsbollah
17-01-2023, 04:39 PM
Rangers that are 2nd in the league and in a cup final. Not in such desperate need of starting players I’m afraid. Not even a comparison.

Rangers, for all their spending power, are now serial losers. They will chuck money at the wall and hope it sticks to something.

Jones28
17-01-2023, 04:40 PM
Connor ronan is set to join Hibs from wolves on a 2 year deal ronan is expected to head to Easter road Tommorow for his medical.this would be a massive improvement in the hibs midfield.

Been rubbished on Twitter already unfortunately!

04Sauzee
17-01-2023, 04:40 PM
Connor ronan is set to join Hibs from wolves on a 2 year deal ronan is expected to head to Easter road Tommorow for his medical.this would be a massive improvement in the hibs midfield.

Where are you hearing this?

Not the Scottish journalist on twitter with the Hibs badge?

madhatter
17-01-2023, 04:41 PM
Focus and pressure would only be on them until the new manager was appointed though and then there would be some positivity about the place that always comes with a new manager.

If we don’t think LJ can turn it around, he needs replaced, regardless of how that looks.

I agree but I have zero faith in them getting the DoF or the new manager appointment right. Pressure is definitely mounting on them regardless of new manager etc.

JohnM1875
17-01-2023, 04:42 PM
Where are you hearing this?

Not the Scottish journalist on twitter with the Hibs badge?

I know folk are desperate for a good rumour. But I don't get how folk fall for these Twitter posts from accounts with hardly any followers and have joined in the past few days.

matty_f
17-01-2023, 04:47 PM
I know folk are desperate for a good rumour. But I don't get how folk fall for these Twitter posts from accounts with hardly any followers and have joined in the past few days.

100% this. Does my head in.

Gmack7
17-01-2023, 04:48 PM
Well, that's disappointing, half a dozen pages since I last looked and hee haw to get excited about

Callum_62
17-01-2023, 04:48 PM
I know folk are desperate for a good rumour. But I don't get how folk fall for these Twitter posts from accounts with hardly any followers and have joined in the past few days.I'm still hoping to see that African midfielder King or something unveiled

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Johnny_Leith
17-01-2023, 04:50 PM
Well, that's disappointing, half a dozen pages since I last looked and hee haw to get excited about

Just check the first post, has all rumours and confirmed in and out transfers.

SMAXXA
17-01-2023, 04:52 PM
That's a dangerous mindset to get into, because I for one am not going to keep turning up to games against the Old Firm at home, and Hearts home and away, thinking this game is a dead rubber, as it brackets us as "plucky Hibs", instead of a team that harbours notions of at least beating them once in a while.


That attitude was embedded under the previous Board...if it starts to prevail again, the club are truly ****ed because the fans simply won't wear that poverty of ambition.

It’s not really it’s being realistic how often do anyone beat the old firm, hearts are stronger than us this season so why do some find it so difficult to be realistic and state the obvious? It’s not a mental weakness it’s being a realist, how can you and everyone else banging on about how crap we are how weak the squad is then come back to me with that view. It’s like all the issues and frailties go out the window when it comes to a game well they don’t and results will be attributed to it accordingly in the main.

It’s what the club do now in January to bridge the gap that’s the key opportunity, what has gone on before us and at the moment there is no getting away from.

Bridge hibs
17-01-2023, 04:52 PM
100% this. Does my head in.

Fannies getting their cheap thrills, surprised folk fall for them. Show me a photo of the scarf above the head and the customary complimentary mention of East Mains training centre then I will believe it

scoopyboy
17-01-2023, 04:55 PM
Rangers that are 2nd in the league and in a cup final. Not in such desperate need of starting players I’m afraid. Not even a comparison.

Oh it's a comparison alright.

You stated no other team, you didn't go further than that.

You would have just been as well saying no clubs have signed players except for the ones that have.

You correctly say that Rangers are second in the league and in a cup final so they don't need to sign players yet Celtic are nine points clear at the top of the league and in the same cup final but are signing players. Can you explain that to me please.

Auckland Hibs
17-01-2023, 04:56 PM
Fannies getting their cheap thrills, surprised folk fall for them. Show me a photo of the scarf above the head and the customary complimentary mention of East Mains training centre then I will believe it

Would that be a rumour or a signing?

Hibs90
17-01-2023, 04:56 PM
Any truth in the chat Laidlaw is out of contract and not getting offered another deal?

That's absolutely mental if true.

Bridge hibs
17-01-2023, 04:57 PM
Would that be a rumour or a signing?Rumour of a signing

scoopyboy
17-01-2023, 04:59 PM
Any truth in the chat Laidlaw is out of contract and not getting offered another deal?

That's absolutely mental if true.

No.

SaulGoodman
17-01-2023, 05:00 PM
Getting flashbacks of 2019 when nothing was happening and I spouted some ***** about planes to be entertaining.

Gmack7
17-01-2023, 05:01 PM
Getting flashbacks of 2019 when nothing was happening and I spouted some ***** about planes to be entertaining.

Have you been plane spotting again, this is a cryptic clue isn't it?

Hibs90
17-01-2023, 05:01 PM
No.

Thank **** for that.

SaulGoodman
17-01-2023, 05:02 PM
Have you been plane spotting again, this is a cryptic clue isn't it?

Unfortunately with our new signing policy it’s difficult, there’s no direct flights from Burkina Faso to Edinburgh 😂

NC1875
17-01-2023, 05:04 PM
Oh it's a comparison alright.

You stated no other team, you didn't go further than that.

You would have just been as well saying no clubs have signed players except for the ones that have.

You correctly say that Rangers are second in the league and in a cup final so they don't need to sign players yet Celtic are nine points clear at the top of the league and in the same cup final but are signing players. Can you explain that to me please.

Rangers don’t have a pot to piss in. That’s why.

If you seriously think we’re going about our business as well as we could be and are as prepared as we should be for a massive game, more fool you.

Let’s leave it and we’ll see what “quality” we bring in with a bit of patience. I won’t hold my breath.

007
17-01-2023, 05:10 PM
I think the board are waiting to see what happens on Sunday. Win and LJ will probably get a couple of new faces in to see out the rest of the season and a DOF will be in place. Lose and he could easily be on his way. The board wont let him bring much in if he could be punted a few days later. We've probably got enough to see out the season and allow a new manager/DOF to assess before the summer window. This sunday is pivotal imho.

Evening News journalist said we had to get players out before bringing any in. Now that some have moved on we can now finalise deals to get players in. Hopefully will be sooner rather than later but often the timeframe is outwith the club's control.

scoopyboy
17-01-2023, 05:14 PM
Rangers don’t have a pot to piss in. That’s why.

If you seriously think we’re going about our business as well as we could be and are as prepared as we should be for a massive game, more fool you.

Let’s leave it and we’ll see what “quality” we bring in with a bit of patience. I won’t hold my breath.

But you not long ago said they're not needing to sign players because they are second in the league and in a cup final, now you are saying it's because they don't have a pot to piss in. Make your mind up.

I take it you think Hibs are awash with money by saying it's a decent excuse for Rangers not to sign players because they have no money.

Never have I posted anywhere that I am happy with Hibs business in this or the previous couple of transfer windows, so don't try and spin that.

I think you should retract the more fool you statement.

Edinburgh Green
17-01-2023, 05:14 PM
No.

He’s maybe been offered one, but not a very good one according to post he liked on twitter.

scoopyboy
17-01-2023, 05:18 PM
He’s maybe been offered one, but not a very good one according to post he liked on twitter.

I think he will sign a contract offered by Hibs.

Just as a by the way I thought it was the end of next season that he was out of contract, not the end of this season.

I could be wrong on that however.

MikeyS
17-01-2023, 05:23 PM
I think he will sign a contract offered by Hibs.

Just as a by the way I thought it was the end of next season that he was out of contract, not the end of this season.

I could be wrong on that however.

I'm sure it was mentioned in here a few days ago that him and O'CONNOR are both out of contract this season. Could be wrong obviously

Hibiza
17-01-2023, 05:25 PM
Has anyone else noted the similarity in the pure pash that Johnson and Beale ( sevco manager ) talk.

andrew70
17-01-2023, 05:25 PM
I think he will sign a contract offered by Hibs.

Just as a by the way I thought it was the end of next season that he was out of contract, not the end of this season.

I could be wrong on that however.

Defo this season.

NC1875
17-01-2023, 05:27 PM
But you not long ago said they're not needing to sign players because they are second in the league and in a cup final, now you are saying it's because they don't have a pot to piss in. Make your mind up.

I take it you think Hibs are awash with money by saying it's a decent excuse for Rangers not to sign players because they have no money.

Never have I posted anywhere that I am happy with Hibs business in this or the previous couple of transfer windows, so don't try and spin that.

I think you should retract the more fool you statement.

I think you should read my posts back, I never once said they don’t need to sign players. I said they’re not in as desperate need of players as us. Any sane person can see that so I don’t get your argument on that one.

I really don’t know what you’re arguing about at all to be honest. I’m not happy that we’ve not done any business and you’ve said you’re not happy.

scoopyboy
17-01-2023, 05:27 PM
I'm sure it was mentioned in here a few days ago that him and O'CONNOR are both out of contract this season. Could be wrong obviously

I'm not sure, also not sure that people who post about it know either:greengrin

scoopyboy
17-01-2023, 05:29 PM
I think you should read my posts back, I never once said they don’t need to sign players. I said they’re not in as desperate need of players as us. Any sane person can see that so I don’t get your argument on that one.

I really don’t know what you’re arguing about at all to be honest. I’m not happy that we’ve not done any business and you’ve said you’re not happy.

I wasn't happy when you stated only Hibs hadn't signed players.

NC1875
17-01-2023, 05:33 PM
I wasn't happy when you stated only Hibs hadn't signed players.

Aberdeen have signed quality.
You can argue Hearts have signed quality.

Supposedly 2 of our direct rivals. They manage it but we can’t ? It’s always excuses with Hibs.

Like I say, I’ll have a bit more patience and well see if it was worth the wait. I doubt it.

andrew70
17-01-2023, 05:35 PM
Aberdeen have signed quality.
You can argue Hearts have signed quality.

Supposedly 2 of our direct rivals. They manage it but we can’t ? It’s always excuses with Hibs.

Like I say, I’ll have a bit more patience and well see if it was worth the wait. I doubt it.

Both Hearts and Aberdeen have a lot more money than us.

scoopyboy
17-01-2023, 05:38 PM
Aberdeen have signed quality.
You can argue Hearts have signed quality.

Supposedly 2 of our direct rivals. They manage it but we can’t ? It’s always excuses with Hibs.

Like I say, I’ll have a bit more patience and well see if it was worth the wait. I doubt it.

I agree we will just have to wait and see who we bring in, then we can argue whether they are quality or not.:greengrin

I think Aberdeen have done really well to get Graham Shinnie back, I would have loved Hibs to get him.

I honestly don't know if Hearts have signed quality or not, at least they have got players in.

04Sauzee
17-01-2023, 05:44 PM
From the Daily Record

Kevin Nisbet off-limits for Celtic transfer as Hibs slap not for sale at ANY price sign on star

bit.ly/3XF6Mwy

Jones28
17-01-2023, 05:53 PM
From the Daily Record

Kevin Nisbet off-limits for Celtic transfer as Hibs slap not for sale at ANY price sign on star

bit.ly/3XF6Mwy

Too ****** right.

scoopyboy
17-01-2023, 05:53 PM
From the Daily Record

Kevin Nisbet off-limits for Celtic transfer as Hibs slap not for sale at ANY price sign on star

bit.ly/3XF6Mwy

Not for sale at any price, my ****, everybody has a price.

Jones28
17-01-2023, 05:53 PM
Not for sale at any price, my ****, everybody has a price.

£8m and we talk.

Gmack7
17-01-2023, 05:54 PM
£8m and we talk.

And he stays on loan for the rest of the season

Pedantic_Hibee
17-01-2023, 05:55 PM
£8m and we talk.

And that’s just the loan fee for the remainder of the season.

supermcginn
17-01-2023, 06:00 PM
That’s why he was 2nd to Rocky

How many games has rocky played in the best league in the world and been a part of the most successful English club side in history. Rocky lost his place to howlers such and Chris Maxwell and Ross laidlaw

bigwheel
17-01-2023, 06:03 PM
How many games has rocky played in the best league in the world and been a part of the most successful English club side in history. Rocky lost his place to howlers such and Chris Maxwell and Ross laidlaw

And Bogdan lost his place to Rocky …circular subjective views …they were both very good keepers for me

Lago
17-01-2023, 06:06 PM
Not for sale at any price, my ****, everybody has a price.
Especially come the summer 😊

Ronniekirk
17-01-2023, 06:09 PM
I'm not sure, also not sure that people who post about it know either:greengrin

Am sure there was a recent article or post with a list of players on it who are out o contract at the end of the season Both these players were on that list The Mcintyre brothers snd a few others had been offered and signed new contracts
Maybe since then the situation has changed for other young players but can’t recall seeing any update

LunasBoots
17-01-2023, 06:10 PM
Aberdeen have signed quality.
You can argue Hearts have signed quality.

Supposedly 2 of our direct rivals. They manage it but we can’t ? It’s always excuses with Hibs.

Like I say, I’ll have a bit more patience and well see if it was worth the wait. I doubt it.

Yup not the only ones who've done good business in Scotland strengthening, we just seem to take things too slow, I'll be surprised with it becoming later in the window we actually get the 'quality' talked about, we live in hope

hfc-1875
17-01-2023, 06:12 PM
With Porto going this window no doubt what about the boy Stephen Welsh from Celtic? In the paper they’re wanting him away possibly on loan?

Greenworld
17-01-2023, 06:17 PM
I'm not sure, also not sure that people who post about it know either:greengrinBoth out of contract 31st May this year

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Ronniekirk
17-01-2023, 06:17 PM
Not for sale at any price, my ****, everybody has a price.

Under normal circumstances that is the case But having lost Boyle to injury, and with Porto looking like he could go this window , it would be suicide for the owners to sell Nisbet in this window given he has fired us back into the top six scoring nearly all our goals in the last few games
A crazy bid could come in but unless we have a proven striker lined up I can’t see us selling

L J will rightfully fight to keep him till next window as hevis difference between top six finish and drifting back down the table into relegation zone battle
Just my opinion

EGL2000
17-01-2023, 06:22 PM
With Porto going this window no doubt what about the boy Stephen Welsh from Celtic? In the paper they’re wanting him away possibly on loan?

Would love him but probably out of our range sadly. Ligue one teams were getting bids of 2+ mil rejected in the summer. Will most likely go to MLS or Belgium for decent money.

SMAXXA
17-01-2023, 06:54 PM
Would get as much if not more in the summer for Kev if he keeps up this scoring rate

Callum_62
17-01-2023, 07:43 PM
https://twitter.com/HibernianWomen/status/1615387219719487488?t=DsU3fg2X8heL1guBA83e7Q&s=19

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worcesterhibby
17-01-2023, 08:24 PM
Been rubbished on Twitter already unfortunately!

I wish I'd scrolled down and seen this...I've just spent 30 minutes watching Youtube footage of Connor Ronan ! (mind you some good goals and less depressing than this place ! :greengrin)

04Sauzee
17-01-2023, 08:37 PM
I wish I'd scrolled down and seen this...I've just spent 30 minutes watching Youtube footage of Connor Ronan ! (mind you some good goals and less depressing than this place ! :greengrin)

Wait until you check YouTube footage of Kings Kangwa 😀😀

worcesterhibby
17-01-2023, 08:47 PM
Wait until you check YouTube footage of Kings Kangwa 😀😀

:greengrin:greengrin

Interestingly..I do think Connor Ronan will either be sold or sent out on loan...a week ago, the Wolves manager said “Connor is our player and is working to try and show that he’s able to be here,” the Spaniard told the Express & Star (https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2023/01/10/nathan-collins-taking-full-wolves-responsibility/). “He’s going to have his chance. We have a lot of matches and I am sure he’s going to have minutes.”

Since then they have played matches in both cup competitions (and lost both) with big changes to their starting line up and he wasn't even on the bench for either match..If he doesn't make the bench in the cup comps..he's not going to get minutes in the Premier League. He'd be a great signing if we could get him on loan, wasted playing reserve team football.

I'm Spartacus
18-01-2023, 09:14 AM
How can it be unthinkable when most people fully expect it?

Expect the unthinkable. That should be part of the club crest 'Expecto Nefas' is the Latin translation :)

Callum_62
18-01-2023, 09:56 AM
https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1615650454351790082?t=Z7dU4KGeIwPYQLp-O2Z8UQ&s=19

Loving the twitter updates [emoji23]

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CapitalGreen
18-01-2023, 10:00 AM
https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1615650454351790082?t=Z7dU4KGeIwPYQLp-O2Z8UQ&s=19

Loving the twitter updates [emoji23]

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What am I missing here?

Since452
18-01-2023, 10:03 AM
Has anyone else noted the similarity in the pure pash that Johnson and Beale ( sevco manager ) talk.

Both of them would make fantastic used car salesmen.

bingo70
18-01-2023, 10:05 AM
What am I missing here?

People going radge as Hibs are tweeting about stuff other than new signings.

The replies are funny IMO

Dmas
18-01-2023, 11:00 AM
I heard a whisper last week of Motherwell wanting Mitchell from nobody I’d call ITK however I’ve seen they now have no left backs at the club after some guy going back to Ipswich so maybe there might be something in it

Brightside
18-01-2023, 11:01 AM
People going radge as Hibs are tweeting about stuff other than new signings.

The replies are funny IMO

People are idiots. Adverts etc still have to carry on.

flash
18-01-2023, 11:05 AM
People are idiots. Adverts etc still have to carry on.

I spend far too much time calling these clowns out on twitter.

Johnny_Leith
18-01-2023, 11:06 AM
People are idiots. Adverts etc still have to carry on.

Yup, they'll all be scheduled via tweetdeck prior, most likely well in advance.

Trinity Hibee
18-01-2023, 11:11 AM
I heard a whisper last week of Motherwell wanting Mitchell from nobody I’d call ITK however I’ve seen they now have no left backs at the club after some guy going back to Ipswich so maybe there might be something in it

Are they aware he is never fit and won’t actually play any games?

bingo70
18-01-2023, 11:11 AM
People are idiots. Adverts etc still have to carry on.

I know, that’s why the replies are funny 😂

Spike Mandela
18-01-2023, 11:13 AM
Hibs seem to be freeing up cash by offloading or loaning out several players. Hopefully this means signing at least one ‘good un’ that will be in and playing on Sunday. Time is running out though if that person is to join, get to know team mates and work on tactics etc for Sunday. Getting a bit twitchy now.:greengrin

Callum_62
18-01-2023, 11:15 AM
If we don't sign someone today I would imagine they are unlikley to start in the Derby

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bingo70
18-01-2023, 11:19 AM
If we don't sign someone today I would imagine they are unlikley to start in the Derby

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I would agree with that.

I would imagine the players will be off at least one day between now and Sunday and Saturday would be a pretty light session? Would mean only one proper session to get to know team mates etc.

Not impossible the my could play Sunday but seems unlikely.

bingo70
18-01-2023, 11:23 AM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-28962604

Offer accepted from an MLS club for Connor Ronan. Guess we can score him off the list then.

***** anyway 😂

NAE NOOKIE
18-01-2023, 11:24 AM
If we don't sign someone today I would imagine they are unlikley to start in the Derby

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Indeed ... It would have to be one hell of a signing to chuck a player, who lets face it almost certainly wouldn't have played first team football regularly recently if he is a known face but coming to us, into a derby match.

thebausburst
18-01-2023, 11:28 AM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-28962604

Offer accepted from an MLS club for Connor Ronan. Guess we can score him off the list then.

***** anyway ��

I recon that is one of the players Hibs have been trying for, right level but as with all proven quality players there is fierce competition for their signature and these deals take time to complete. However, would rather we go for this level even if we miss out or it takes time, than bring in some Gambian under 23 International who will takes months to ‘settle’ then end up being crap

04Sauzee
18-01-2023, 11:31 AM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-28962604

Offer accepted from an MLS club for Connor Ronan. Guess we can score him off the list then.

***** anyway 😂

Mentioned the other day I had read the MLS was a likely destination. I'm sure Wolves were hoping to get some money rather than send him out on loan.

I'm Spartacus
18-01-2023, 11:32 AM
If we don't sign someone today I would imagine they are unlikley to start in the Derby

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I would agree with that.

I would imagine the players will be off at least one day between now and Sunday and Saturday would be a pretty light session? Would mean only one proper session to get to know team mates etc.

Not impossible the my could play Sunday but seems unlikely.


Indeed ... It would have to be one hell of a signing to chuck a player, who lets face it almost certainly wouldn't have played first team football regularly recently if he is a known face but coming to us, into a derby match.

Aye because throwing someone in would never work out...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZkDcOzX0AI8bb5?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

CapitalGreen
18-01-2023, 11:38 AM
Aye because throwing someone in would never work out...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZkDcOzX0AI8bb5?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

He didn’t start

SHODAN
18-01-2023, 11:39 AM
Never thought I'd see a repeat of the 2011 Calderwood "stumbling block" window, but here we are...

Brightside
18-01-2023, 11:51 AM
If we don't sign someone today I would imagine they are unlikley to start in the Derby

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If we are lucky we may have a free agent in with us this week already and we just haven't heard?

Real Emerald
18-01-2023, 11:53 AM
If we are lucky we may have a free agent in with us this week already and we just haven't heard?

Straws and clutching come to mind 😂👍

NC1875
18-01-2023, 11:57 AM
If we are lucky we may have a free agent in with us this week already and we just haven't heard?

If that’s the case. Then it’s even more baffling decisions from the club.

A good signing in this week before Sunday would have increased ticket sales 100%.

Still time I know.

DinkyTwo
18-01-2023, 12:01 PM
https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1615650454351790082?t=Z7dU4KGeIwPYQLp-O2Z8UQ&s=19

Loving the twitter updates [emoji23]

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkLoving the outrage in the comments. As if it's one or the other!

Big Ron sitting in his mansion, deliberating over whether to sign a new midfielder or promote the club's affiliated Life Insurance on Twitter

We're signing nobody regardless :faf:

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Onceinawhile
18-01-2023, 12:02 PM
Wasn't that long ago, the EEN journos were telling us that incomings were "close".

That seems to have been misleading.

Logie
18-01-2023, 12:03 PM
If we are lucky we may have a free agent in with us this week already and we just haven't heard?

Tyler Blackett anyone?… looking at free agents, 28 years old a lot of games under his belt, he has played 32 games in the MLS in the last year and played 137 games overall in championship. He has played 89 games at CB and is left footed which could help our LCB issues. Stats from transfer market. No idea if he is affordable just chucking it out there lol

Edit - he is a Lb but can play in the centre.

Gordy M
18-01-2023, 12:10 PM
If that’s the case. Then it’s even more baffling decisions from the club.

A good signing in this week before Sunday would have increased ticket sales 100%.

Still time I know.

I know there was a lot of chat we hadnt sold a lot of tickets, but i think we have sold over 17000, with 4 days left. A new signing would have some impact but not as much as folk are making out i dont think.

Stuart93
18-01-2023, 12:20 PM
18th of January and still no-one in. Incredible

04Sauzee
18-01-2023, 12:20 PM
I know there was a lot of chat we hadnt sold a lot of tickets, but i think we have sold over 17000, with 4 days left. A new signing would have some impact but not as much as folk are making out i dont think.

Is that 17000 including the Hearts allocation? If she we have only moved under 14k to our own support.

LunasBoots
18-01-2023, 12:23 PM
I know there was a lot of chat we hadnt sold a lot of tickets, but i think we have sold over 17000, with 4 days left. A new signing would have some impact but not as much as folk are making out i dont think.

Should have had signings done ages ago, no time to settle in really now

KeithTheHibby
18-01-2023, 12:24 PM
18th of January and still no-one in. Incredible

Why? The club have stated getting players out the door this month is the priority - which to be fair is what they are doing.

LunasBoots
18-01-2023, 12:25 PM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-28962604

Offer accepted from an MLS club for Connor Ronan. Guess we can score him off the list then.

***** anyway 😂

Another one bites the dust, be left with the dregs at this rate

JohnM1875
18-01-2023, 12:27 PM
Why? The club have stated getting players out the door this month is the priority - which to be fair is what they are doing.

It can't be the priority for me. There's no way getting rid of players from an already poor squad can be the priority.

Improving the squad has to be the priority every transfer window.

LunasBoots
18-01-2023, 12:27 PM
Why? The club have stated getting players out the door this month is the priority - which to be fair is what they are doing.

Because the club has repeatedly told fans its 'learnt lessons' year after year and here we are still messing about half way through a season, don't think ST holders bought tickets simply for the club to right it off.

bingo70
18-01-2023, 12:28 PM
Why? The club have stated getting players out the door this month is the priority - which to be fair is what they are doing.

We should be doing both.

Since the window opened we’ve no longer got Dabrowski, Blaney?, Bojang, Melkerson and Kenneh off the wage bill. That’s surely enough to bring in one player at least?

That’s before you go into the fact Porto will probably be sold too.

Rumble de Thump
18-01-2023, 12:30 PM
It can't be the priority for me. There's no way getting rid of players from an already poor squad can be the priority.

Improving the squad has to be the priority every transfer window.

It requires money. When players go out, players can then come in. The more money made or saved from players going out the better quality of player we can bring in.

KeithTheHibby
18-01-2023, 12:30 PM
We should be doing both.

Since the window opened we’ve no longer got Dabrowski, Blaney?, Bojang, Melkerson and Kenneh off the wage bill. That’s surely enough to bring in one player at least?

That’s before you go into the fact Porto will probably be sold too.

We probably are doing both however I certainly don't have a problem with the club offloading players in advance of new ones coming in.

Gordy M
18-01-2023, 12:31 PM
Should have had signings done ages ago, no time to settle in really now

Yep i agree, never said they shouldnt have, my point was that ticket sales were as bad some were making out and a new signing wouldnt have a huge impact.

KeithTheHibby
18-01-2023, 12:33 PM
Because the club has repeatedly told fans its 'learnt lessons' year after year and here we are still messing about half way through a season, don't think ST holders bought tickets simply for the club to right it off.

No-one is writing off the season. If we are trying to correct some of the wrongs this window that we have made in previous windows then you could argue we are learning lessons.

I don't doubt we will bring in players this window however I am not going to wet the bed because we haven't brought anyone in the first 2 weeks.

bingo70
18-01-2023, 12:33 PM
We probably are doing both however I certainly don't have a problem with the club offloading players in advance of new ones coming in.

That’s the point though, it shouldn’t done in advance of new ones coming in, it should be done in conjunction with new ones coming in.

Cup run is potentially worth about £1m to us but we’re just letting this game pass by in the hope we can get JDH, Jair or Mitchell off our books next week then see what’s left for us to buy?

It’s no way to run a successful club, no wonder we’re ***** 😂

sleeping giant
18-01-2023, 12:33 PM
Been trying to stay relaxed and trust the process but ffs , it's difficult.
What a state.

Stuart93
18-01-2023, 12:34 PM
Why? The club have stated getting players out the door this month is the priority - which to be fair is what they are doing.

Because we’re more than half way through the window and so far the teams been found wanting and we’re sitting 7th.

We don’t need to empty half the team out before bringing folk in. We have the same numbers in our squad as hearts supposedly who added 3 players this month.

It’s the same pish we’ve been fed constantly from the club for 2 seasons now.

2 of the players that are away have been signed within a year.

KeithTheHibby
18-01-2023, 12:34 PM
[QUOTE=Gordy M;7237119]Yep i agree, never said they shouldnt have, my point was that ticket sales were as bad some were making out and a new signing wouldnt have a huge impact.[/QUO


How do you know this?

KeithTheHibby
18-01-2023, 12:37 PM
Because we’re more than half way through the window and so far the teams been found wanting and we’re sitting 7th.

We don’t need to empty half the team out before bringing folk in. We have the same numbers in our squad as hearts supposedly who added 3 players this month.

It’s the same pish we’ve been fed constantly from the club for 2 seasons now.

2 of the players that are away have been signed within a year.

**** Hearts mate. I could not give a **** who they are bringing in.

How do you know how the club operates? Surely if we are top heavy with the squad it makes sense to offload before bringing in new players.

Here is a question for you; have we missed out on any players this window so far? None that I can see.

neil7908
18-01-2023, 12:39 PM
We should be doing both.

Since the window opened we’ve no longer got Dabrowski, Blaney?, Bojang, Melkerson and Kenneh off the wage bill. That’s surely enough to bring in one player at least?

That’s before you go into the fact Porto will probably be sold too.

Yup. Hibs seem to have this weird thing where we can't do different things at once. I'm unclear why an organisation our size with our turnover can't do outgoings and recruitment at the same time.

It's the same stuff each window. We are told it's better to wait to get quality than just bring in players for the sake of it early. As if those things are mutually exclusive.

mcfly
18-01-2023, 12:40 PM
No-one is writing off the season. If we are trying to correct some of the wrongs this window that we have made in previous windows then you could argue we are learning lessons.

I don't doubt we will bring in players this window however I am not going to wet the bed because we haven't brought anyone in the first 2 weeks.

Always the saying used when a fan expresses concern at lack of transfer movement.

If we lose at the weekend the seasons over. We should have had players in to improve this squad in first week of January

The board knew this and have spent all their time moving on players they signed in the summer.

It’ll be a very hard sell from them when season ticket renewal comes around because they have wasted our money on poor signings.

We now have 1 fit centre forward / its hard to
Be optimistic as a hibs fan just now.

Stuart93
18-01-2023, 12:40 PM
**** Hearts mate. I could not give a **** who they are bringing in.

How do you know how the club operates? Surely if we are top heavy with the squad it makes sense to offload before bringing in new players.

Here is a question for you; have we missed out on any players this window so far? None that I can see.

I’m not talking about the players hearts have brought in specifically, I’m comparing squad numbers with our rivals.

It would be hard to miss out on any players if we’ve not went for any.

I’ve zero confidence that the squad will be any stronger than it was when the window opened. Queue the excuses from some.

“Quality over quantity”
“It’s hard to sign players in January”
“We need players out first”
“Rather wait on the DoF coming in”

None of that helps this season when we should be aiming for 4th at the absolute least.

The club aren’t being bashed unnecessarily on this. Fans are absolutely right to be pointing the finger

Trinity Hibee
18-01-2023, 12:40 PM
**** Hearts mate. I could not give a **** who they are bringing in.

How do you know how the club operates? Surely if we are top heavy with the squad it makes sense to offload before bringing in new players.

Here is a question for you; have we missed out on any players this window so far? None that I can see.

He is basing it on what we saw last season and what we have seen so far this one. If we lose on Sunday our season is over yet we keep being told stick with us. For the last 18 months we’ve been crap for virtually all of it with no end in sight.

People have lost trust in those involved now. To have offloaded 4 or 5 players with no one in is quite incredible. As others have said players should be coming in at the same time players are leaving. I’m struggling to think of 18 players to field an 11 and fill the bench at this rate. Even those who will be on the bench there is no intention of playing them.

Gordy M
18-01-2023, 12:42 PM
[QUOTE=Gordy M;7237119]Yep i agree, never said they shouldnt have, my point was that ticket sales were as bad some were making out and a new signing wouldnt have a huge impact.[/QUO


How do you know this?

What i meant was that we have 2900 tickets left at tge moment, say we sell another 1000 before Sunday, even a new signing could only improve the gate by 1500-1900. Less than 10% of the capacity. Thats what i meant by new signings not having a major impact on the ticket sales. We need to get players in though, thats all i was saying.

Iain G
18-01-2023, 12:47 PM
18th of January and still no-one in. Incredible

Yeah I am impressed as well :greengrin

KeithTheHibby
18-01-2023, 12:47 PM
I’m not talking about the players hearts have brought in specifically, I’m comparing squad numbers with our rivals.

It would be hard to miss out on any players if we’ve not went for any.

I’ve zero confidence that the squad will be any stronger than it was when the window opened. Queue the excuses from some.

“Quality over quantity”
“It’s hard to sign players in January”
“We need players out first”
“Rather wait on the DoF coming in”

None of that helps this season when we should be aiming for 4th at the absolute least.

The club aren’t being bashed unnecessarily on this. Fans are absolutely right to be pointing the finger


You may be comparing squad sizes but you ain't comparing turnover that's for sure.

SHODAN
18-01-2023, 12:50 PM
The latest I remember us making a first signing of a January window was 2011, when Matt Thornhill signed on the 21st.

If we've no players in by the derby then we beat that record.

Stuart93
18-01-2023, 12:54 PM
You may be comparing squad sizes but you ain't comparing turnover that's for sure.

I’m still not buying that there’s no budget to bring anyone in.

Look at what Lennon/the club managed to do in January a few years back with a few loan signings. Transformed the team

CapitalGreen
18-01-2023, 12:58 PM
I’m still not buying that there’s no budget to bring anyone in.

Look at what Lennon/the club managed to do in January a few years back with a few loan signings. Transformed the team

After getting Stokes huge salary off the wage bill.

Stuart93
18-01-2023, 01:00 PM
After getting Stokes huge salary off the wage bill.

Are you confident we’ll see the same turnaround now that we’ve got a few players moved on?

Imo it’s just a lazy excuse.

Greencore
18-01-2023, 01:04 PM
It's actually mental being a hibs fan. Why are we always on the brink of disappointment or success.

flash
18-01-2023, 01:06 PM
It's actually mental being a hibs fan. Why are we always on the brink of disappointment or success.

Not sure that's exclusive to us.

Stuart93
18-01-2023, 01:06 PM
It's actually mental being a hibs fan. Why are we always on the brink of disappointment or success.

It’s because there never seems to be a middle ground with us imo. We’re either fighting for Europe and having a half decent season or we aren’t fighting for Europe and it’s a ***** season

This is what’s making me pissed off with our lack of activity this month particularly because a European place isn’t far away at all

CapitalGreen
18-01-2023, 01:07 PM
Are you confident we’ll see the same turnaround now that we’ve got a few players moved on?

Imo it’s just a lazy excuse.

After 22 games in 2017/18 we were 4th - we ended up finishing 4th and got knocked out the cup by Hearts.

This season I think we’ll improve on our current league position but get knocked out the cup by Hearts.

bingo70
18-01-2023, 01:07 PM
Are you confident we’ll see the same turnaround now that we’ve got a few players moved on?

Imo it’s just a lazy excuse.

Businesses surely don’t just work based on cash in the bank.

They make projections about incomes going forward and make investments in the business based on that?!

There has to be someone at the club who has the foresight to calculate who it is likely we could get off the wage bill, how much beating Hearts and going on a cup run could make us and the difference each league placing could be worth to us. If those calculations are wrong or we get put out the cup early we have sellable assets we can use either by selling Porto now, Nisbet in the summer or possibly even through a Josh Doig sale windfall.

I don’t believe we are sitting there saying we currently have x in the bank but if we get rid of three players we can add their wages together to sign someone. It just can’t work like that.

bingo70
18-01-2023, 01:08 PM
Not sure that's exclusive to us.

I think we’re better at it than most though.

NC1875
18-01-2023, 01:10 PM
Businesses surely don’t just work based on cash in the bank.

They make projections about incomes going forward and make investments in the business based on that?!

There has to be someone at the club who has the foresight to calculate who it is likely we could get off the wage bill, how much beating Hearts and going on a cup run could make us and the difference each league placing could be worth to us. If those calculations are wrong or we get put out the cup early we have sellable assets we can use either by selling Porto now, Nisbet in the summer or possibly even through a Josh Doig sale windfall.

I don’t believe we are sitting there saying we currently have x in the bank but if we get rid of three players we can add their wages together to sign someone. It just can’t work like that.

Exactly, speculate to accumulate. While also giving yourself a better chance in a massive game against our biggest rivals.

But no. It’ll be a couple of loans at the end of the window as usual. Nothing will change.

Stuart93
18-01-2023, 01:11 PM
Businesses surely don’t just work based on cash in the bank.

They make projections about incomes going forward and make investments in the business based on that?!

There has to be someone at the club who has the foresight to calculate who it is likely we could get off the wage bill, how much beating Hearts and going on a cup run could make us and the difference each league placing could be worth to us. If those calculations are wrong or we get put out the cup early we have sellable assets we can use either by selling Porto now, Nisbet in the summer or possibly even through a Josh Doig sale windfall.

I don’t believe we are sitting there saying we currently have x in the bank but if we get rid of three players we can add their wages together to sign someone. It just can’t work like that.

Na I don’t think it can work like that at all. As I said, it’s an easy go to excuse for some

SMAXXA
18-01-2023, 01:29 PM
I know we will do business and pretty soon but it will likely be a patch job until the summer won’t be significant overhaul of new signings.

Real Emerald
18-01-2023, 01:29 PM
Businesses surely don’t just work based on cash in the bank.

They make projections about incomes going forward and make investments in the business based on that?!

There has to be someone at the club who has the foresight to calculate who it is likely we could get off the wage bill, how much beating Hearts and going on a cup run could make us and the difference each league placing could be worth to us. If those calculations are wrong or we get put out the cup early we have sellable assets we can use either by selling Porto now, Nisbet in the summer or possibly even through a Josh Doig sale windfall.

I don’t believe we are sitting there saying we currently have x in the bank but if we get rid of three players we can add their wages together to sign someone. It just can’t work like that.

You would think it would work that way but our management/owner/board have proved as a fact they’ve no idea what they’re doing. They’ve signed a whole lot of dross and in less than a season telling us their main focus during this window is getting rid of the dross we’ve signed. Regardless of who they’re trying to get rid of the main focus should be to put a team on the park with players in the right positions. That’s is what 1000’s of punters paid £400 on season tickets to see. Not to watch a bunch of corporate numpties play football manager and fob us off with the type of spin Boris Johnson would be proud of.

bingo70
18-01-2023, 01:33 PM
I know we will do business and pretty soon but it will likely be a patch job until the summer won’t be significant overhaul of new signings.

Tbh that’s what I would expect from a January window and why I think LJ’s talk of overhauling the squad, getting rid of masses of players and replacing them with one or two bits of quality seems extremely unlikely. If he can convince enough people of that for long enough though when we approach the summer we can get the next pitch about how summer recruitment will be different this time. Its like we’ve seen this movie before 😂

GreenPJ
18-01-2023, 01:42 PM
You would think it would work that way but our management/owner/board have proved as a fact they’ve no idea what they’re doing. They’ve signed a whole lot of dross and in less than a season telling us their main focus during this window is getting rid of the dross we’ve signed. Regardless of who they’re trying to get rid of the main focus should be to put a team on the park with players in the right positions. That’s is what 1000’s of punters paid £400 on season tickets to see. Not to watch a bunch of corporate numpties play football manager and fob us off with the type of spin Boris Johnson would be proud of.

So having a bloated squad whereby a lot of the players are not (yet) ready or proven to be playing week in week out is/was the priority to address. Its not just about releasing cash to sign other players but the squad size was too big, that leads to disruption where you will have a higher proportion not playing who won't be happy and creating unrest in the squad after a while. The squad size needs/needed to come down first.